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I'm turning over a new leaf. 9 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 3: I know it's not January first, still January January thirteenth, thirteenth, 10 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 3: And Papa's got a brand new bag. 11 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 4: Okay, is that just to I'm gonna leave it at that. 12 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 4: What's that a sony? Does that? Say? Sony? It's just 13 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 4: a bag that was in the bag. Okay, you got 14 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 4: a new bag? Is okay? 15 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: He's pulling out something here. I see a chord, I 16 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: see a plug. What you got a new phone? 17 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 4: What it's the same phone? 18 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going to keep it in the bag throughout 19 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: the show and realize, Yeah, because the comedy show. 20 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 3: This is complain in that I'm this is the only 21 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 3: thing about YouTube that drives me crazy. They get to 22 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 3: see seriously, just because I'm looking down at my phone 23 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 3: doesn't mean I'm not paying attention to you. 24 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 4: I get it. 25 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 1: They want me to like look at you as you're talking, 26 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: But this is radio. 27 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 3: If we didn't have YouTube, we will never know. You 28 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,119 Speaker 3: would never know that I'm not looking exactly why. 29 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 4: So I said, you know what I mean? Hello, let's 30 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:30,400 Speaker 4: say it. Yeah, but you get my yea. 31 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 1: It's honestly, and I think you listening you watch it 32 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 1: on YouTube. It is a m It's a muscle memory 33 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: at this point, right you just you get that pause 34 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: and time in life, you grab your phone. 35 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 4: It's just muscle memory. 36 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: Everybody, literally, if you got any hold ready, listen, silence, 37 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: you grab your phone. Just muscle memory. It's bad, but 38 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: that's how we all are right now because. 39 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 4: And the reason I have the bag. 40 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 3: Is for one reason and one reason only, because they've 41 00:01:57,840 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 3: been complaining on YouTube forever in the comments. 42 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 1: But Jason Smith came in yesterday. Do you remember we 43 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: came in. What he said? What he's the first he said? 44 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 4: He said, you're on. 45 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 1: The phone more than my teenage daughter who's seventeen or whatever. 46 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 4: He took a shot at you. He took a shot 47 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 4: at me. 48 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: Said I was him taking all that little joke, and 49 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: he joke at the end of the show. Yes, he 50 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get you back. And he came in and 51 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 1: so I said, how long can you do this? 52 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 4: Though? Is the question? And I'm just gonna pick it 53 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,239 Speaker 4: up during break. So I'm just gonna let it go now. No, 54 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 4: I don't have a bag, but dagg it. Put it 55 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 4: in your and your backpack. Yep, let's try it. Just 56 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 4: put it in there. 57 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 3: I know. 58 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 4: Look at you. Just go ahead, look at my handshaking 59 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 4: you two my hand. At fifteen minutes, she can keep 60 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 4: my on the phone. Handy, No, fifteen minutes because at 61 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 4: the break. Okay, okay, here we go. All right, that's it. 62 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 4: We're in our bag. Have you ever had that? We're 63 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 4: in our bags for now on. So Rob G's at home. 64 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 3: He's not watching, but if he was at home, Hee 65 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 3: would be watching. He's watching the old WE runs of 66 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 3: Jim Rome. It's all good, all right, Well, come, what's up. 67 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 3: Let's welcome into the eye. Couple of crew. We wouldn't 68 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 3: be able to do this five radio program with out them. 69 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 3: Lee is our producer and for Rob G, who's steeling 70 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:08,239 Speaker 3: much better. Steve the Sager's at the anchor desk. He 71 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 3: keep us updated throughout the program. Elijah is our social 72 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 3: media guru, one of the best of the business. 73 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 4: I heard the best and on the. 74 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 1: Ones and twos. It ain't that code outside. That's what 75 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:27,799 Speaker 1: you just came from. She lives in Los Angeles is 76 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: seventy five degrees. 77 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 4: You've got a whole young man, because I got swaged. 78 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: No you got to me. I like it, but you 79 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: got a whole koala bearon? Ain't it ain't. 80 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 4: Big news of the day. 81 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 3: And to me, there were only two options for Mike 82 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 3: Tomlin to get fired or stepped down. 83 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 4: They lose you. You said that they wouldn't win. You 84 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 4: called it right. Do you hear that? 85 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: It's on tape. I just said you called it right 86 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: and got recording with my phone. I don't have my phone. 87 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: They don't need your phone. 88 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 4: This for me. You got it right. Okay, So you 89 00:03:58,040 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 4: called it. 90 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: They didn't win, and there was no choice really because 91 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: because nineteen years is a long time, and I just think. 92 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 4: You need to change the voice. That's all. It's not 93 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 4: that he can't coach or he can't go somewhere else. 94 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 4: I'm serious. 95 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 3: Nineteen years as a football coach is a very, very 96 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 3: long especially. 97 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 4: You get that in college where guys stick around forever. 98 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 3: But nineteen years a head coach in the NFL is 99 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 3: in the eternity, seriously, and it had just gotten stale there. 100 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 3: They haven't won a playoff game, they've lost seventh straight. Now, 101 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 3: they just had a lot. They can't get over that. 102 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 4: Hump, and it was time. 103 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 3: So I'm not I wasn't surprised when I heard the 104 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 3: news because they don't fire anybody. So I'm not shocked, 105 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 3: am I right? They don't fire anybody. Everybody was left 106 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 3: on their own or stepped down. It's a family owned business. 107 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 3: It ain't a corporation. It's not cold. It's warm and 108 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 3: fuzzy in Pittsburgh. That's why they've had three coaches in 109 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 3: sixty years. That's just how they operate. And I get it. 110 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 3: But they knew it was time. You knew it was time. 111 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 3: We even had that conversation not too long ago, that 112 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 3: was up on social Go go back and look at 113 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 3: one of our shows. We talk about it, and I said, 114 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 3: other than winning the Super Bowl, I would be ready 115 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 3: to move off even if he won a playoff game. 116 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 1: I said that because it's too long. So I'm not surprised, No, 117 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: not surprised. And honestly, when you and I, you know 118 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 1: we this is what we do with our couple. So 119 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 1: we have subjects and conversations and topics that will we 120 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 1: bef on or disagree on, and a handful of them 121 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: will carry all around until the final thing happens. 122 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 4: I say, the lines are making the playoffs. You said 123 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 4: they not. We got obviously, wait till it happens. 124 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: I said in the offseason, I didn't like them waiting 125 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 1: on Aaron Rodgers. We have to wait to see and 126 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: waiting on it. And the reason why I didn't like 127 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: it was I didn't like Mike Tomlin pairing himself with 128 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 1: that in the organization. Where it wasn't that Aaron Rodgers 129 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 1: was bad. It was it's like asking Lebron to dude, 130 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:53,359 Speaker 1: stuff he can't do. 131 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 4: Now. 132 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 1: Lebron ain't playing the best defense in the world. Well, 133 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: he's forty one years old. He's not gonna be the 134 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 1: best defender. And asking Aaron Rodgers save a franchise, to me, 135 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 1: was unrealistic. 136 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 4: And that's what they were looking for. 137 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 1: They wanted to turn some things around, win playoff games 138 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 1: and and you know, be competitive again in that regard, 139 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: and I just never saw how that was gonna be 140 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 1: feasible with this team, the way they're comprised, they're not offense. 141 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 3: They did win the division, I think I think it'd 142 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 3: being a little bit like like with your expectations, just 143 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 3: be honest. 144 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 1: Yes, was that they weren't gonna win the division? They 145 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: weren't gonna win ten games. You didn't believe in any 146 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: of that. 147 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 4: Could you say that? Yes, But here's what that's all 148 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 4: I'm gonna answer. 149 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: Okay, I always kept saying they will be the exact same. 150 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 1: That's verbating what I was saying that they weren't. They 151 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: weren't to say ten and seven, they were ten and seven. 152 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 4: Last them. 153 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: He didn't put he didn't play. The Pittsburgh Steelers were tenants. 154 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson didn't play. He didn't play a game. 155 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 2: No. 156 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,359 Speaker 3: And the other one is they lost their last five 157 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 3: to start to end the season. 158 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: I'm saying it wasn't the same season. That wasn't the 159 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: point there was. The point wasn't, well, let's just win 160 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: a few at the end. No, the point was win 161 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: in the postseason. And they looked horrible on the postseason, 162 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 1: and they have for months, for years now with him. 163 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 4: To Detroit. They went to Detroit. Yeah, I'm just trying 164 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 4: this is the post. 165 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: No no, no no, But I'm just trying to say 166 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: you can't when you say that they went to Detroit 167 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: in a must have game, I don't. 168 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 4: Care, and I genuinely don't. 169 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: Their goal was to win a game, and the postseas 170 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: which add to me that you're so deferent just to 171 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: win once, don't you want to. 172 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 4: Make Look at the Patriots. I want I wanted them. 173 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 4: I want to keep it on. But I am mad. 174 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. He paid, chose to pay himself. 175 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: They made it a bromance, right, they're all in. And 176 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: to me, I'm saying, don't you see that you all 177 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: are offensively deficient. You guys don't run a good offense. 178 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: This is prior to Aaron Rodgers. It was the last day. 179 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: They're struggling offensively. That's what they haven't been for years. 180 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: They struggled at the position. And I think, Mike Tomlin, 181 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: there's no way, I don't care what job you get. 182 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: That you get nineteen guaranteed years. That's impressive, that's remarkable, 183 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: and that's nothing to be ashamed of, and it's okay 184 00:07:58,400 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: to move on. 185 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 3: When you think, when you think of Mike Toma, what 186 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 3: do you think of? I'm just curious, I think of 187 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 3: what do you think. 188 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: A leader of men? Like if you're just saying, what's 189 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: the word association? My time, I'm gonna go leader of men. 190 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: That's the first thing I think of. He's a leader 191 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: of men. Men buy into him, the system. 192 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 4: Of him as a great coach. 193 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, Like one thing, you just gotta give me 194 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: what leader of men? Great leader of men? Meaning if 195 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: you have a franchise, great coach, Yes, but I'm saying 196 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: that's a leader of men. 197 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 4: Leader of men? Is here? 198 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 3: Leader? 199 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 4: Right? And then I'm talking about coaching. 200 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: And ask me that if you ask my first thing 201 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: I think of, I think of a great leader of men. 202 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, but that's not I think if 203 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: you talked about Bill Belichick, you might say great coach 204 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: or somebody like that. You wouldn't say leader of men. 205 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 1: You'd say he's a great coach. But you want tell 206 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: you why just an old coaches that won't transfer? If 207 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: you want a culture builder, he is a culture builder. 208 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: He's a leader of men. He got he of a 209 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 1: coach without a doubt. But it's also time to part 210 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:58,439 Speaker 1: wait nineteen no, no, no, that's agreement. I don't think 211 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: anybody's gonna come on. He's an amazing coach. Say that 212 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: that you never have a losing season is remarkable, Bill Belichick, 213 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:05,959 Speaker 1: I could be the greatest effort. 214 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 4: Can't have that same. 215 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: But he can't have that on it on it, you 216 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: know his title, so to never have a losing season, 217 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: and even in this one, right, you go out ten 218 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: and seven, you win a division some circumstances, you win 219 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 1: a division, you get a post season game. 220 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 4: You gotta want a division, you gottaion. 221 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 1: But it's time. It's time. The voice runs down to me. 222 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: The idea that he thought this was gonna work. And 223 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: last week when he won, he was like, yeah, this 224 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 1: is what we brought him in for. I didn't get it. 225 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 1: Brought him into be the exact same ten and seven 226 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: non played well to win the division Baltimore. But the 227 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: word they were better off were drawing the bill. 228 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 4: Okay, you got that, but I'm just saying they. 229 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: Because that's who can get it. Aaron Rodgers. That type 230 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,959 Speaker 1: of team is the is what what made it problematic for. 231 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 3: And everything I talked about to and their defense obviously 232 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 3: played well. My my biggest question mark when Houston came 233 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 3: true is that c J. Stroud Kenny, he didn't want 234 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 3: he kat didn't want to win it. Okay, and that's 235 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 3: what going forward if you're Houston. I saw all the 236 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 3: fans from the Texans who are sick because they know 237 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 3: they have a defense and they're looking at that going 238 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 3: We got away with this with Pittsburgh, Okay. 239 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:22,199 Speaker 4: I don't know the next team or the next game. 240 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 3: We're gonna be able to do that if we turn 241 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 3: from the ball five times and throw two picks and 242 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 3: you wind up winning. 243 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 4: A runaway all right? 244 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 3: Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven, seven 245 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 3: nine nine six sixty three sixty nine. And the question 246 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:40,439 Speaker 3: I really want people to call up with whether you're 247 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 3: a Steelers fan or not, do you say good luck 248 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 3: to Mike Tomlin? 249 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 4: Yes? Or good riddance? 250 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 2: Oh? 251 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 4: Absolutely, good luck? Good luck, good luck or good riddance. 252 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,319 Speaker 3: And I think if you're a Pittsburgh fan, it should 253 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 3: be good riddens because nineteen years and he won early 254 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:56,839 Speaker 3: and went to. 255 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: Two Super Bowls. But it has really been if you're 256 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: honest with yourself. 257 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 3: Disappointing and underachieving for many years. And that's why I 258 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 3: say good rittance. Well, I wurs Dealers fan. 259 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: But that's why I said the last few times we 260 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,959 Speaker 1: talked about said he was in thriving on mediocrity. 261 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 4: Lately, right, And that's why I'm saying good. 262 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 1: But I also don't think good Writtens to me is 263 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: like he's he's giving it his all. He committed to 264 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 1: the team in the franchise, So I can't look at 265 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: it as a good written It's just that time. 266 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple 267 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 2: with Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington weekdays at seven pm 268 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 2: Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the 269 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app. 270 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 3: Hey, it's Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington from The Odd 271 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 3: Couple on Fox Sports Radio. 272 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 1: And in addition to hearing us live weeknights from seven 273 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 1: to ten pm Eastern on Fox Sports Radio, we are 274 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 1: excited to announce brand new YouTube channel for the show. 275 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 3: That's right, You can now watch The Odd Couple live 276 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 3: on YouTube every day. 277 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: All you gotta do search Odd Couple FSR on YouTube 278 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: again YouTube, Just search Odd Couple FSR. 279 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 4: Check us out on YouTube and subscribe. So all over. 280 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:10,839 Speaker 4: He went to, what do you mean it's all over? 281 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 4: He didn't say it was all over. 282 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 3: It's still undecided, but I'm saying it's all over as 283 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 3: far as this season and at playing at forty one 284 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:17,439 Speaker 3: years old. 285 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 4: And whatever you want to make out make of it. 286 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 4: Forty two now he turned forty to turn forty two. 287 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 3: December, okay, forty two, And then you go, first. 288 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I just think I mean, we were a 289 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: place where we thought we would be, Like I don't 290 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 1: think any well unless you were in Pittsburgh, but you 291 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 1: thought they were winning a super Bowl, meaning you knew 292 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: it was gonna be uh in a playoff loss. It 293 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: did depending on how far obviously they wanted to finally 294 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:44,319 Speaker 1: win that one and they weren't able to do so. 295 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 4: But I think the good. 296 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 1: Thing for him, if I'm looking at it from Aaron 297 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: Rodgers standpoint, I didn't get hurt. 298 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 4: I played relatively well. 299 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:57,719 Speaker 1: We made yeah, and I got back to it, and 300 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: I think he was very sincere with this. I got 301 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: back to an organization that I felt was stable, that 302 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: knew what they were doing. 303 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 4: One of the table, he took a shot Veilchut of 304 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 4: the Jets. 305 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: No, the Jets, that's a fact, that's fat, that's I 306 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:18,839 Speaker 1: don't even for eons was unstable and that's just certain teams. 307 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: The Clippers for years were unstable. So he got to 308 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: an organization that was well run, classy, with a guy 309 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 1: that he'd admired from far, Mike Tomlin. They were able 310 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 1: to have their romance to the tune and winning the division. 311 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: They didn't have anybody a romance, you know, you always 312 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: had to end the marriage. And uh So I think 313 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 1: from that standpoint, I think he has to be pleased 314 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: like I got. I played pretty well, didn't get hurt. 315 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: We went to the postseason, and I went out with 316 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: the organization that has class. I think that that matters 317 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: to him. But I think it is absolutely time to 318 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 1: call it a career because what what's what's the thing 319 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: that you're chasing? 320 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 4: If it's a Super Bowl? 321 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: Well, the teams that are locked in for Super Bowl 322 00:13:57,800 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: that we would all say are contenders for the next 323 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: couple of years. So they're locked in, They've got their 324 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: guy and that's not changing. So where's that opportunity. I 325 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: don't I don't see that happening, and he had. He's 326 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 1: had an amazing career. It's one of the all time greats. 327 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: One I always said, one of the most talented, not 328 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:15,559 Speaker 1: just quarterbacks, football players I've ever seen. Yes, I think 329 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: there was some left to be desired. If if you're him, 330 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: I'm sure he felt like, there's no way I'm not 331 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: going to go back to a super Bowl for fifteen years. 332 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: Whatever it was, I got guarantee you he thought, you know, 333 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: I can get back. 334 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 4: There are a lot of situations extenuating. 335 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, but you told him after he was 336 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: Marino who didn't even win Dorina win his second year 337 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: and never went pobbly back, and you sell him the greatest. 338 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: So at one point, so and I think, so, I 339 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: think for me, it's time to walk away. It's time 340 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: to move on. When you kind of do this how 341 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: he's doing it, I might. I might not Lebron kind 342 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: of doing I'm ia. It ends up taking away from 343 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: to me how it could be a great sendoff alive 344 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: the late great Kobe Bryant. 345 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 4: Where, Hey, you come in, I know this is it. 346 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 4: I'm with this. 347 00:14:57,920 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: You know I'm with this team. I'm locked in. This 348 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 1: is it. You can get the fit. Maybe the farewell 349 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: send off, he would have won it. But when you 350 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: kind of you leave with the Packers, then you go 351 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: to the Jets and then then come back with Jef. 352 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: But I'm gonna go to Pittsburgh and right now if 353 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: he's I might come back to pittsborgh Micos Suhare. It's 354 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: like eventually he doesn't get that Aaron Rodgers sendoff that 355 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: you his his resume would have deserved because he keeps floundering. 356 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: But but I think it's I think it's time to 357 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: go home, go away. You had an amazing career, one 358 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: of the all time greats. You you did all you 359 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: can do. I don't think the league his style of 360 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: play moving forward, and I mentioned this with even Jared Goff. 361 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: The stationary quarterback is about to be obsolete because it's 362 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 1: just the way the game is now. These guys are 363 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: too fast, They're coming at you. They know how to 364 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: get pressure, and if you can't escape, almost every quarterback 365 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: can We're watching the replay of the Bears Packers. Kayler 366 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: Love can run, Kayla Williams can run, Jordan Love can run, 367 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: bow Nates can run. You go down the list, said 368 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 1: Jared Golf can't run, and I tell you they got 369 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: one more year, they better had that offensive line on 370 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: point because you see what happens. He can't make a 371 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: play unless it's the play called. He can and not 372 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: and that's the There's no more guys like that. And 373 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. We saw it last night. It was elder abuse. 374 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 4: Yeah. 375 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 3: The only thing is he's not gonna face that kind 376 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 3: of defense. That's one of the best defense in the league. 377 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 3: And we even said that they have a super Bowl defense. Okay, 378 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 3: there's I mean, he was able to go in the 379 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 3: fourth quarter against the Ravens defense, which is more like it. 380 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 3: And I'm just saying, like more of a standard eleven 381 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 3: for fourteen and one thirty passer rating and you know 382 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 3: what I mean, and was able to be able because 383 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 3: he got protection. 384 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 4: When you get protection, All I'm. 385 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: Gonna say is, I think it could have been very 386 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: easy for him to just say, yeah, that's it tonight. 387 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 4: You know what I mean. And I know you don't 388 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 4: want to be. 389 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 3: Rash or be and then be flippy floppy when calls come, 390 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 3: and I think that's why he did. I think the 391 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 3: best part of what happened in Pittsburgh this year is 392 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 3: that he did come back and didn't go out on 393 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 3: that bad Jets. 394 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 4: The way the injury, how he played. 395 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 3: The next year when he came back, because he was 396 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 3: really just recovering from that injury, and. 397 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 4: You can't recover with the Jets, right, And. 398 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 3: You know, Aaron glenn is like, yo, okay, we're moving 399 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 3: off on you. He goes and helps the Stealers win 400 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,400 Speaker 3: a division, goes ten and five in the regular season. 401 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 4: So you got something. 402 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 1: You went, you won a division, You played relatively well, 403 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And I think that that's 404 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: something that he could be proud of. But if I'm 405 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers and you saw Tom Brady play till he's 406 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: forty five, yeah, And the way that the rules are 407 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: set up where they protect quarterbacks for the most part 408 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:38,679 Speaker 1: of this was the old NFL, I'm with you. 409 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:41,640 Speaker 4: He should have been out four years ago. But they 410 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 4: protect the quarterback. 411 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 3: That's how Tom Brady was able to play till forty five. 412 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 3: They don't allow you you touch those guys. You know 413 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 3: how many time we see that with Brady during that 414 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 3: his last you know what I mean, you put a 415 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:55,120 Speaker 3: hand on his rough in the pass. 416 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 4: Oh yeah. So if I'm Aaron Rodgers. By the way, 417 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 4: Tom Brady acting like he mad about this ain't of football. 418 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 1: Tom, You and Peyton created the hard hitting, too low, 419 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: hitting too high doing it and it worked for you. 420 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: And that's why you around go ask Joe and Peyton 421 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:12,439 Speaker 1: manny boy, Tom Brady be acting like he was playing 422 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 1: in it like Detroit Aikman Era getting hit like and 423 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 1: all those gods. 424 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:18,360 Speaker 4: Oh these dudes taking hits. 425 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 1: I'm like you and Peyton literally went to the league 426 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:22,679 Speaker 1: office talking about that. 427 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 3: Working in New York watching what Joe Montana went against 428 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 3: Lawrence Taylor and the Giants. 429 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:32,120 Speaker 1: And taking your head off regularly was it was really bad. 430 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 1: But my blowys lining quarterbacks is if I'm. 431 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:39,199 Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers, I breathe, I take everything in and I 432 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 3: just wait to see. 433 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 4: I'm gonna wait, yeah, you know what, He's gonna breathe 434 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 4: and take it all in. 435 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:47,400 Speaker 3: What I wait to see just if there's any interest 436 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 3: in any circumstantial situation that presents itself. And he's not 437 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,120 Speaker 3: any different from any other quarterback. And what I'm gonna 438 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:56,919 Speaker 3: say to you is when you think of all the 439 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,919 Speaker 3: great Brett Fahr played for the Jets and then went 440 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 3: to the Vikings. 441 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 4: All right. Uh, Joe nam has finished his career with 442 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 4: the Rams. 443 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:05,959 Speaker 2: Uh. 444 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:10,880 Speaker 3: Uh, Joe Montana finished his career with Kansas City. 445 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 4: You know what I mean? 446 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 3: Peyton managed his career where Houston like the Brady Brady 447 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 3: left John Elways. Everything isn't him one team, John Elways 448 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:25,400 Speaker 3: the anomaly. Everybody else. They got to go somewhere else, 449 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 3: play with a couple of different teams at the end. 450 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 3: So it's not out of the Normance doesn't mean that 451 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 3: he's Oh look at him going on all these different 452 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 3: teams hanging out. 453 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:36,239 Speaker 1: No, this is Joe Flacco one in Baltimore. He's been 454 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: on four teams. He's been on dagnar four teams in 455 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:39,120 Speaker 1: the same season. 456 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 4: Am I right? 457 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: Like? 458 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying? So that is kind of 459 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 4: what happened. 460 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,679 Speaker 3: And if Joe Flacco is still in the league and 461 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 3: still viable, No, I'm not. 462 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 1: But what I'm saying, you're leaving out one. You know 463 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: who you're leaving out right now? What was that ponder 464 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 1: passing we're talking about Joe Flacco? What are you saying 465 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:01,640 Speaker 1: right now? Are the spot I was saying Brett Farr 466 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: The irony of how that he and Aaron kind of 467 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: that was their last plays? 468 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 4: His last play would go? Was that a pick six 469 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 4: for Aaron Rodgers? 470 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:11,199 Speaker 1: But Philip Rivers is where I was about to know 471 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: who just played at Philip Rivers with He didn't play 472 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 1: football for five years and came back and got a 473 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 1: bunch of starts out the blue. 474 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. 475 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:22,679 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers can still play talent wise, it's more so 476 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: why what's his Why? Philip Rivers said, I couldn't you know, 477 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: I would be kicked myself with the rest of my 478 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: life if I didn't try one more time? Is Aaron 479 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 1: Rodgers try one more time? Is it trying to win 480 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,360 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl? Warmers? I would just do it. Well, 481 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:37,880 Speaker 1: Lebron ain't winning a super Bowl. 482 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:42,360 Speaker 3: He's still playing like like I mean part of but 483 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 3: but they don't have a championship team. 484 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 4: Can we admit that? What do you mean? 485 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 1: What? 486 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 5: Right there? Okay, all right right there? They have set 487 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 5: all right, That's what I'm saying. And Lebron still playing 488 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 5: is what I'm trying to say. And that's what that's 489 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:00,080 Speaker 5: There are a lot of people who want him out law. 490 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 1: But that's why I brought up got tied he and 491 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers together, and that it's getting to the point where, 492 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: like I don't know what they're doing it for. Like 493 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 1: and they're both too big, Like Aaron Rodgers plays the position, 494 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: meaning he's not, Oh, I'm gonna just be Remember when 495 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 1: Deon Sanders came back for the Ravens, he was playing 496 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,919 Speaker 1: spot here and there, safety and kind of in and 497 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: out the lineup. Aaron Rodgers, isn't that you're the starting 498 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,880 Speaker 1: quarterback playing If he was, like, I love the game 499 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: so much, I don't even mind hearing a clipboard and 500 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: clapping and teaching a young guy. 501 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 4: That's different. 502 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:30,919 Speaker 1: Lebron's same thing if he were just coming off the 503 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: bench as a spot shooter. These guys they suck out 504 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 1: the air at the oxygen out the room cause they're 505 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: they're who they are. They're gonna start, they're gonna be 506 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: big names, they're big personalities, they're big talents. So it 507 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: becomes what you're saying of, are they gonna call it 508 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,360 Speaker 1: a career? People start looking at their watch. Are you 509 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 1: just guys who just sit on the bench and clapped it. Look, 510 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 1: Juwan Howard played till he was fifty five. You didn't 511 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: even know it. 512 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 3: But Philip Rivers and Joe Flack or exhibit a on 513 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:03,640 Speaker 3: why Aaron Rodgers could potentially play next year. And that's 514 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 3: why I think eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox 515 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 3: eight seven seven nine nine. 516 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 4: Six sixty three sixty nine. 517 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 3: I'm saying, if I'm Aaron Rodgers, I'm waiting by the phone. 518 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna throw in a towel, not just yet. 519 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 3: The NFL still needs quarterbacks, Like don't disagree. They need quarterbacks, 520 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 3: and that's why he's viable. If everybody had their guy, 521 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 3: then then it would be easy. He would have been 522 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 3: retired to a couple of years ago. But people are 523 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:36,199 Speaker 3: still starving for quarterbacks. And that's why we just saw 524 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 3: Joe Flaka was traded to a team right because the 525 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 3: injury happened. 526 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 4: And that's what I'm saying. 527 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: Mama Dub always had a phrase growing up, no when 528 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 1: to say win boyfriend meaning no, when is time? And 529 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 1: her point was, Hey, you hanging out with friends, A 530 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: little party started to get little, It's time to go? 531 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 4: Are you doing that? 532 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 1: Hey, it's time? I think it's okay to say wipe 533 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 1: my hands clean. I literally gave it all I had, 534 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: getting my head taken off figured literally last night it 535 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 1: was elder abuse. I'm done, had an amazing run one 536 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: at all time greats. Can't tell the story NFL without 537 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:10,640 Speaker 1: a guy who was winning the MVP every other year 538 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 1: for like fifteen years. 539 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 4: So eight seven seven times. But it's time. 540 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 3: It's all right eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox 541 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 3: will take your call. 542 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 4: It's time to go golfing and stuff. 543 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 3: Eight seven seven nine nine six sixty three sixty nine. 544 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 3: Kelvin says Aaron Rodgers should retire. I said, and he 545 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 3: should sit by the phone and wait to hear an 546 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 3: opportunity before he calls it. If nobody calls, then you 547 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 3: could call it a career and feel good about it 548 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 3: that you left that Jets man. 549 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 4: As fash point real quick. 550 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 1: Sure, are you saying similar to last season, given let 551 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: me get to take some time. Are you saying the 552 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 1: Philip rivers like it might be week eight of next year, 553 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,919 Speaker 1: because that's a little different. No, I'm saying retire, and 554 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: that guy I understand if who's really good. 555 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,360 Speaker 4: Nobody he should. But but the Patriots are ten to two. 556 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: But just saying he should retire, Yes, and I'm talking 557 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: retire period, no matter who calls and I'm saying no, 558 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 1: I'm waiting by the phone. I'm saying now if somebody 559 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 1: called me, they're ten and three the Patriots or something 560 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: next year, and Ali, we just need you this run 561 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,199 Speaker 1: this stretch that's a little different. 562 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,199 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 563 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 2: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 564 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 2: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 565 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 2: listen live. 566 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 3: This story about the woman Lynn Jones went viral from 567 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:34,120 Speaker 3: the Jacksonville Free Press, a black newspaper in Jacksonville, and 568 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 3: we're going to We gave our takes yesterday and we 569 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 3: brought this back because after we did, and we'll reiterate 570 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 3: with our stance on this, we got a lot of 571 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 3: pushback and some feedback on social media. And we're a 572 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,400 Speaker 3: show that likes to include you, give you an opportunity 573 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:52,439 Speaker 3: to hear your voice. 574 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 1: It ain't just Kelvin and I talking at you, Okay, 575 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 1: We just that's not the kind of radio show we 576 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: want to do. And shout out to Elijah too, because 577 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,400 Speaker 1: he put, you know, push together great stuff for socials 578 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 1: and that's part of where you're talking about the feed 579 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: the pushback. I should say exactly. That was a lot 580 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: to say on them socials. So we'll get to that. 581 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: So that's a rate, so let it up. 582 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,399 Speaker 4: We can hear. I believe we got that and all that. 583 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 1: Okay, Lenn Jones again, interview you all recall right now 584 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 1: after the game, Liam Cohen's up there the pressor she 585 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 1: has an opportunity to speak. 586 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:21,400 Speaker 4: Here's what she had to say. 587 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 6: Tell you congratulations on your success, young man. You hold 588 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:27,919 Speaker 6: your head up, all right. You guys have had a 589 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 6: most magnificent season. He did a great job out there today. 590 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 6: So you just hold your head up, okay. And ladies 591 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 6: and gentlemen, douvall you the one, all right, keep it going. 592 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 6: We got another season, okay, appreciate take care of much 593 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 6: continued success to you and the entire team. 594 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:41,880 Speaker 4: Thank you man. 595 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 1: So that's what she said there. I just threw up 596 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 1: in my mouth, and you and others threw up in 597 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,199 Speaker 1: your mouth. And tell the people why you threw up 598 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:50,640 Speaker 1: in your mouth. 599 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 3: I'm gonna train journalism and practicing journalism for forty years. 600 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 3: I went to Columbia Journalism School. I teach at USC journalism. 601 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 3: It's just not in our profession. What you're taught Okay, 602 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 3: you're not a fanboy, you're supposed to be. She even said, 603 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:12,919 Speaker 3: we have another season. She also didn't ask a question 604 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 3: at the press conference. This is the working press, and 605 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 3: a lot of reporters, and rightfully so were like, this 606 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 3: is not standard. No one's saying she can't. I'm like, oh, 607 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 3: it's so much negativity. Finally somebody says I'm positive, and 608 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 3: y'all jump on up. That's not the case. She can 609 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:37,479 Speaker 3: say whatever she wants to him privately, but not in 610 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:38,159 Speaker 3: that setting. 611 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 4: That's not what that setting is. 612 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:43,199 Speaker 1: That's a working environment for people who have covered the 613 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,679 Speaker 1: game to need information to write their stories or sound 614 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 1: for their. 615 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 4: TV show or the news or the radio. That's what 616 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 4: that's for. 617 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 1: And in journalism, you're not supposed to make yourself the story. 618 00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 4: You're not the story. 619 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 1: What happened, Kelvin came the story, didn't she the story? 620 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 1: They ain't talked about the game. When the last time 621 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:06,880 Speaker 1: you said Trevor Lawrence, we didn't. We did ever say 622 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. After that, it was all about her. That's 623 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: exactly what you don't want. So am I condemning her 624 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,439 Speaker 1: saying she's the worst person in the world and all that. 625 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 3: No, but if you asked me journalistically, is that correct? 626 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 1: Is I call it improper and unprofessional? That is not 627 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,679 Speaker 1: the place for that. Just like if she was a 628 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 1: fan and went up there and said that was a 629 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 1: piss poor performance, coach, you know, we deserve better than that. 630 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:36,679 Speaker 4: That would be out a lie to and we. 631 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: Would that would be and that would the same, you know, 632 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: types of conversations. But the other way, I think this 633 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,160 Speaker 1: is where it gets complicated. And I mentioned this yesterday, 634 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: but maybe I didn't do a thorough enough job. I 635 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 1: really do believe the contrast in media, for instance, the 636 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 1: jackson Free Press. 637 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,400 Speaker 4: I have no idea. I ain't in Jacksonville or Dubo. 638 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,400 Speaker 1: So I don't know what all she did that as well, 639 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 1: and she did do that, so but I'm glad you 640 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 1: said that. Mary, you got that. The reason why I 641 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:10,439 Speaker 1: reference that is because her saying duval lets me know 642 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 1: all this ain't gonna be a normal hey coach, you guys, 643 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 1: god we're three and ten on third downs Tonai da 644 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 1: da da da da. Because she made it very much 645 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 1: about the fact that he was putting on for the 646 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: city and she was looking at it as you put 647 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,479 Speaker 1: on for our city, you put on for Duval County, 648 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: you put on for the people. 649 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 4: We usually having rough seasons, we were finally good. 650 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 1: And she took that approach, and I think that is 651 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 1: what made people who are journalists who've been doing this 652 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: for years, who are coming to cover the game talk 653 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 1: about third downs, first downs, and I think this is 654 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 1: why they got upset. So what we're witnessing, Rob is 655 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 1: in real time online journalists like yourself forty years in 656 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 1: the game, and others say, Hey, that's not how we 657 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 1: do things. That's not how we conduct the business. This 658 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 1: is not how you're supposed to go. The fans all 659 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 1: they see is a clip, Well, that was acute reaction. 660 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 4: What's the big deal? 661 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 1: So where the contrast happened to me was journalists explaining 662 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 1: journalism two fans who don't necessarily care to hear about 663 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 1: all that. All I know is a lady says something 664 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 1: really nice to a kind what's the big deal? 665 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 4: It was twenty seven seconds. 666 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 1: I don't understand why it's a big deal when people, 667 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 1: again who have been in this professor, are saying that's 668 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 1: not how you do it, that's how you do it. 669 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 4: I had to earn my chips. 670 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 1: I had to fight to get in those rooms, and 671 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 1: then and that, and this is how it have been, 672 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 1: and she's wasting time. 673 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 4: Everybody doesn't get it there. 674 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 1: It's only five or six questions, and that's a waste 675 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 1: of a one. People aren't gonna get that unless they've 676 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 1: worked those rooms, because to them, what the heck was 677 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 1: the big deal? It's just a swipe for me, I 678 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 1: swiped on my timeline, or heard a lady say something 679 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 1: nice to a team that fought hard that usually isn't great. 680 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 1: Now they finally had a good season, they overachieved. What's 681 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: the big deal? And no one's ever gonna understand that. 682 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: They're not in an ABJ National Associated Black Journals are 683 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 1: nab National Association Broadcasting. They're not any of that. They 684 00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 1: didn't go to Walter kronkrit School of Journalism at Arizona 685 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 1: on the State. They didn't go to Columbia Journalism. They 686 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 1: didn't go to all these that will make no sense 687 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: to them. I heard a lady say something nice for 688 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: twenty seconds. What's the big deal? Yeah, she she, I'm 689 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 1: glad they schooled. 690 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 4: What you want? What they don't? 691 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 3: You just said it. It's not an endless shrimp question session. 692 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 4: Do you know what I mean? 693 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 3: Where everybody gets to ask any question one all day 694 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 3: that it's not They usually come out and they say, hey, 695 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 3: coach Gear, He's gonna answer you questions real quick. 696 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 4: But and it starts. 697 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 1: And so I believe she is a very talented and 698 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 1: great journalist. 699 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 4: And again I don't know her work. 700 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 1: I don't know that I'm saying. I'm saying I don't 701 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:36,959 Speaker 1: know her work. So I'm gonna give her that. Well, 702 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm gonna give her that. She said, I 703 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: don't know that. I don't know that too. I don't 704 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 1: know her work. So this isn't this is her doing 705 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 1: something that Again, you know, I've been in those rooms 706 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: all right, here we go question if I'm in there, 707 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 1: and they asking that I go anyway, And I literally 708 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 1: don't even think twice about it because I'm ready to 709 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 1: get to my question or I'm ready to write down 710 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 1: whatever your question was. It didn't bother me that much. 711 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 1: But again, I know purest that's the key part. I've 712 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 1: talked to people in that profession. We casual say something 713 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 1: about their profession. I gave an example of meteorology. If 714 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 1: you say, man, it's crazy we had that snowstorm. 715 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 4: They get us. 716 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 1: No, actually that was a meteorodic winter forecasting. They know 717 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 1: the exact proper name, and they school you and they 718 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 1: get upset about it because don't understand. 719 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 4: They went to schooling for this. They know this. 720 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 1: And that's what a lot of journalists are doing. They're saying, hey, 721 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 1: I know what I had to go through the I 722 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 1: know what it's like in those rooms. You don't ask 723 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 1: those questions. The average person is not trying to hear that. 724 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 1: They don't get that. They hear the lady being nice. 725 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 1: What's the big deal. And there's the contrast people who 726 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 1: do this for a living who are baffled because they 727 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 1: never would. 728 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 4: Have done that. They don't not allow you do this. 729 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 4: Not Your job would be mad if you did that. 730 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 1: If you were at the Free President Detroit and they 731 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 1: are all right, Rob Parker, Detroit Free Press, go ahead, 732 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: and you said that. 733 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 4: Hey, yeah, I'm si yourself. 734 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to come up with it. Hey, Rob Marinelli, 735 00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: great season. You know the Lions for hard at you. 736 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: So I'm get this man some pepto bismol right now. 737 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 1: You would have been in trouble. Your job would be 738 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 1: like Yo, what are you doing? It's the free press. 739 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 1: We don't go out like that. We don't say those 740 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 1: kind of things, but the average person just doesn't. But 741 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 1: here's my thing is when people who are in the 742 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 1: business try to explain to you, listen and you don't 743 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 1: have to but understand what we're trying to tell you. You're 744 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 1: not in this profession. 745 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 3: So if you don't know and you can't figure out, 746 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 3: why listen to people who have been I raised my 747 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 3: hand forty years. 748 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 4: I've been a bit forty years. 749 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 1: I'm not just telling you this because I want to 750 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 1: attack some woman who works for a small community paper 751 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 1: in Jacksonville. 752 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 4: It just was very odd. 753 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 3: And the other thing I thought Adam Shefter was very 754 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 3: He thought it was a cute exchange too. But don't 755 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 3: forget Adam Shefter also got caught sending his stories to 756 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 3: the general manager of the Washington Footballo, which is again 757 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 3: against journalism and ethics. 758 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 1: He ain't thinking attacked him though, he is not thinking 759 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 1: like that as a traditional journalist. And we have now 760 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 1: mixed up mixed in the Pat McAfee's like, wow, you 761 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 1: guys are just haters and the you know he's not. 762 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 4: I don't know. 763 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 1: What I'm saying is the average person doesn't know that. Now, 764 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 1: So this person's a journalist. A lot of the people 765 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 1: that see on TVR journalists, the people they read, the 766 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 1: people that pop up on the timeline aren't journalists. They 767 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 1: didn't go to school of journalists. They don't have that background. 768 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 1: They can do whatever they say. And last point, even 769 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 1: politically it's gotten convoluted. You watch Fox, you are seeing 770 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 1: in those primetime shows. Those aren't like you know, journalists reporting. 771 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 1: They're giving opinions. But you know, Fox isn't even you 772 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 1: know what it is. It's not a news outlet. It's 773 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 1: considered FCC and entertainment industry. It's not they don't know 774 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 1: that Rob watch that. They don't understand, they don't know 775 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 1: that's allowed. 776 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 4: To be entertainment. 777 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 1: It's an entertainment network. It is not a news And 778 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 1: that's my point. So people turn on Fox News or 779 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 1: sometimes they turn on CNN and they hear the opinions 780 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 1: of the primetime shows, those primetime hosts. 781 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 4: There's opinions and how I feel. 782 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 1: They can say, can't believe he would do that, can't 783 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 1: believe roll his eyes, say that you're not supposed to 784 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 1: do that in traditional journalists would be unbiased and partial. 785 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 1: So that's my whole point is where this gets mixed 786 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 1: in and the purists had a moment where they were 787 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:21,800 Speaker 1: upset and the average person they keep seeing people blur 788 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 1: the lines, and I understand that is why people in 789 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:30,359 Speaker 1: this profession have pushed back. Because people think because they 790 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 1: have a blog or they got they could do TikTok 791 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 1: phone or do a phone something, that they're journalists and 792 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 1: people they're not. 793 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 4: They're not trained journalists. They aren't. 794 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 3: So every time you blur that line and pushing people 795 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 3: and the you. 796 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 1: Know that we got to that point that that's the 797 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:50,760 Speaker 1: that's that's that's a reason why the people posts educated 798 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 1: journalists or were offended by that. The average person doesn't 799 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 1: get it because they don't necessarily know what that is anymore. 800 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 1: And so what's the big deal. I see her do that, 801 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 1: she does that, he does that, they do that. They're 802 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 1: mixing up all. 803 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 3: And maybe aren't journal because we aren't applauding a team 804 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 3: or or or trying to comfort a team. 805 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 4: We're negative. We're all with no, we're not. It's the 806 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 4: same thing. And you know, I do news in the morning. 807 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 4: It's the same thing with the news. 808 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 1: Oh you aren't, you're protecting such and said, no, I 809 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 1: have strong opinions about certain things. At giving it, we're 810 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 1: being impartial, we're giving you the facts, straight down in 811 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 1: the middle. 812 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 4: This is what it is. It is what it is. 813 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,279 Speaker 1: And so people are like, oh, y'all not doing it, 814 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 1: and you know it's people have become unfamiliar with objectivity 815 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 1: and just being uh, you know, straight and impartial and 816 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:42,919 Speaker 1: straight down the middle.