Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of Busting with the Boys. I
Speaker 1: am your host Will Compton. We have an electric factory
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Speaker 2: Today.
Speaker 1: Ryan Whitney joins the bus. Obviously, Me, Taylor and Ryan
Speaker 1: were all on the bus. Ryan Whitney is the co
Speaker 1: host of Spitting Chicklets NHL legend, some some say, some
Speaker 1: argue about He was on the Olympic team, won a
Speaker 1: Stanley Cup, part of a lot of different stuff, then
Speaker 1: obviously went to UH got demoted down to the miners,
Speaker 1: and then went over to Russian.
Speaker 2: He tells some awesome KHL Russian stories.
Speaker 1: But the dudes all time man fucking hilarious, Northeastern strong accent.
Speaker 1: Him and Taylor double teamy and chirped me for a while.
Speaker 1: I got a little rattled. I'm not gonna lie. First
Speaker 1: half they had me a little bit, but I bounced back.
Speaker 1: In the second half I kept, you know, I couldn't
Speaker 1: keep my composure. I think that's ultimately what happened when
Speaker 1: you get to where you yell and try and like
Speaker 1: I went into their world. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: JP's instead of saying stands in like instead of being like,
Speaker 1: you know, letting it kind of roll off like.
Speaker 3: But like you said, your composures, Yeah yeah, yeah Smith
Speaker 3: to the bullshit man, but no, it is a really
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Speaker 4: Man.
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Speaker 1: getting into the episode, Ryan Whitney. Oh oh, I do
Speaker 1: have an announcement because I've been huge, you guys know,
Speaker 1: the boys huge on the whistle, pig piggyback rice mash,
Speaker 1: cocktails and it can. But I have a new number
Speaker 1: one and it is now the Uh it's a BlackBerry
Speaker 1: Lemon Fizz. The reason it went from number three to
Speaker 1: number one is I was tough on it in the beginning,
Speaker 1: the BlackBerry Fizz, the BlackBerry Lemon flit Fizz. I was
Speaker 1: tough on it because I drank it kind of straight
Speaker 1: out of the box when they first set it too
Speaker 1: it so it was a little warm, a little cool,
Speaker 1: Wasn't that good. I had them things iced out the
Speaker 1: other day at the baby shower, which that win tremendous.
Speaker 2: By the way.
Speaker 1: We got showered with gifts, showered with piggyback rice mash,
Speaker 1: and it was a great time. Then we went and
Speaker 1: youngs and beers at the hockey game, Me Tailor and
Speaker 1: the boys. But uh yeah, BlackBerry Lemon flip Fizz is
Speaker 1: now my number one. Uh freshener line. As I went
Speaker 1: to the two spots in tra Smid is sitting down
Speaker 1: there at the third spot. But obviously we'll be shutting.
Speaker 1: I was to pick throughout the episode. I just wanted
Speaker 1: to say that before we get into this. Now, Ryan Whitney,
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Speaker 1: Appreciate you'all boys, Big hugs, tiny kisses. Hey, So go ahead.
Speaker 1: What were you just saying about whistle pig rye whiskey?
Speaker 5: So my brother gave me a bottle for my birthday
Speaker 5: and I didn't you know, I don't know.
Speaker 4: A ton about whiskey, but I was like, oh shit,
Speaker 4: and I love it. I love it.
Speaker 5: He gets you in the sixth year he got me
Speaker 5: this exact bottle was my birthday.
Speaker 1: They got a ten year as well in this boss Hog,
Speaker 1: which we haven't had yet.
Speaker 2: You guys, my little lecture, don't worry about that. So
Speaker 2: whistle piggy lixur. That's an NFL drink right there. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I stay on my toes all day and this
Speaker 2: is kind of a hitter. So to try this. Tell
Speaker 2: us what the deal is with these things? How how
Speaker 2: they get started?
Speaker 5: Do you want to wait for the party, You want
Speaker 5: to do it right now? We already start to part
Speaker 5: those numbers love that. That's how you know it's going pink.
Speaker 5: Whitney was one in a million, but we can do it.
Speaker 5: Cheers right now.
Speaker 4: Wanted a billion, dude, a billion, three commas. I'll tell
Speaker 4: you what. I thought. That was like more of like
Speaker 4: a mixer drink. No, so a lot of Pavod gets
Speaker 4: to the head bro so tay in my head. I
Speaker 4: was like, oh, mixer drink to me and said that
Speaker 4: they got like a fucking house though, dude, that's what
Speaker 4: they've said.
Speaker 5: I ended up ironed a buckle. I was black thought
Speaker 5: on it and I thought it was a mixed drink.
Speaker 5: I'm like, no, dude, that's straight vodka. Now, granted it's
Speaker 5: I think it's.
Speaker 4: Thirty percent as opposed to it's thirty percent instead of forty, right,
Speaker 4: usually it's forty but because of the flavor they get.
Speaker 4: But it's not mixed. It's not like a mixed drink.
Speaker 4: It's just straight up. I was just infused exactly, Well,
Speaker 4: how did it come alive? So it came alive because
Speaker 4: we got sponsored by New Amsterdam, showed out in New Amsterdam.
Speaker 4: Vodka became the presenting sponsor of our show, which was
Speaker 4: a huge deal. Like you guys know, it's like a
Speaker 4: big listen up to this.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so every episode, every episode should be welcome to,
Speaker 5: you know, busting with the Boys.
Speaker 4: Bust that's a crazy weird deal. Just now it was
Speaker 4: the boys on the Boss.
Speaker 2: I don't know, boy, we had a guy on here
Speaker 2: once I said it was busting in the Boys. And
Speaker 2: that's definitely like the road.
Speaker 4: We're not trying to go down good, you know, busting
Speaker 4: in the boys.
Speaker 5: But it should be welcome to Busting with the Boys
Speaker 5: presented by whistle Pig. So New Amsterdam was they came
Speaker 5: on and they were boom every episode presented by New Amsterdam.
Speaker 4: And then the first episode.
Speaker 5: I've told this story a bunch, but I got new
Speaker 5: listeners here, so many, they said, yeah, so many, millions, millions.
Speaker 4: Busting with the Boy We had like podcasts.
Speaker 5: Body, So they said, well, you just kind of all
Speaker 5: of you guys organically talk about your favorite vodka drinks,
Speaker 5: just so that you know we're talking about New Amsterdam.
Speaker 5: And I think I don't remember the order, but are
Speaker 5: As said vodka red Bull, or Biz said vodka soda,
Speaker 5: Grenelli said vok on the rocks, and I just said, oh,
Speaker 5: since I've been drinking. I have been drinking pink lemonade vodka.
Speaker 5: It's the best drink. I used to drink pink lemona
Speaker 5: when I was eleven years old at the movies, like
Speaker 5: a little nerd.
Speaker 4: And then I just kept going and going. All of
Speaker 4: a sudden, I could start drink.
Speaker 5: I just mixed pink lemonade with the vodka, and like,
Speaker 5: to everyone's surprise, we just started getting like tweet after
Speaker 5: tweet after tweet of I actually showed it.
Speaker 4: Out Newman's own pink Lemonade. Paul Newman's got that. I said,
Speaker 4: that's one I always mix it with.
Speaker 5: So people were sending me New Amsterdam bottles with Newman's own,
Speaker 5: on and on and on and on. We're biz kind
Speaker 5: of like the business mind of our group. He said,
Speaker 5: we got to make a drink. We got to make
Speaker 5: a drink. We have to like, let's do this. I
Speaker 5: was like, dude, nobody's gonna buy a drink pink Whitney.
Speaker 5: All people wrote, Oh, it's pink Whitney, pink Whitney. I finally, Uh,
Speaker 5: it was Halloween and we were driving with my theater
Speaker 5: my wife. Yeah, I was dressed up as a Starbucks
Speaker 5: Forarista Dude drink and all buddy. I had the fro
Speaker 5: coming out and I was like, I'm a legit, I'm
Speaker 5: I'm like a crazy you know those Starbucks Barisas are
Speaker 5: kind of weird.
Speaker 4: Usually those weird always spelled the name wrong and like
Speaker 4: maybe like one like on the neck and the wrist,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 5: And I was telling my wife the whole story and
Speaker 5: the whole time, telling nobis, no, no one's gonna buy
Speaker 5: a drink with my name on it. That's foolish. And
Speaker 5: then she said, well, why don't you try to make
Speaker 5: this drink? And I was like, oh, ship, if you're
Speaker 5: saying this and business saying this, I called them up.
Speaker 5: Next thing, you know, he called barstool Erica hooked it
Speaker 5: up and this happened.
Speaker 4: So it's like, it makes no sense. It's it's it's
Speaker 4: gonna make a lot of sense.
Speaker 5: Actually it really doesn't though, because I'm an absolute joke
Speaker 5: and now there's a drink with my name on it.
Speaker 4: He speaking of joke.
Speaker 1: So I was in a and Ryan Whitney on YouTube
Speaker 1: This better hit bro was jokes.
Speaker 4: I got a little one three guys walking video.
Speaker 1: The video on YouTube is just five minutes or Ryan
Speaker 1: Whitney being a clown on the ice and it's just
Speaker 1: him getting smoked and getting in You always go at me.
Speaker 4: You can fight when we're talking outside. Earlier, I think
Speaker 4: I would say I had five career fights, yeah, and
Speaker 4: I was probably one in four. I did pound one guy.
Speaker 4: I won one. I won one fight.
Speaker 5: The rest of them, maybe a couple of them were ties,
Speaker 5: a couple of them were tough losses, but I won one.
Speaker 4: It was in the playoffs. You win, there's one time
Speaker 4: you win on the board. It's like left. But he
Speaker 4: hit Crosby and if anyone touched Crosby is like game,
Speaker 4: they could be you. I'd still have to go. I
Speaker 4: take a beat. Jesus Christ. They showed one word. He listen.
Speaker 2: I want to know what happened, Like do you tear
Speaker 2: the jersey over the guy's head or what.
Speaker 4: I ended up getting him down? Oh? This is this
Speaker 4: is this the five minute club. I've seen this YouTube.
Speaker 4: It's just me. So there's one they're going to breakaway.
Speaker 4: I just I'm in.
Speaker 5: I'm in the way left of the picture. Right, he's
Speaker 5: not even close to this. This guy, this guy's been
Speaker 5: trying to beat me up. Since two thousand b I'm
Speaker 5: not kidding it this way. I see I'm down. He
Speaker 5: has the jersey over my head. You can't see my head.
Speaker 5: This guy had been chasing me around since we were
Speaker 5: both eighteen years old. This was when we were thirty three,
Speaker 5: and he finally got me. Tim Jackman. We actually I
Speaker 5: got him on the pod one time. He always wanted
Speaker 5: to kill me, and this game he decided, I'm gonna
Speaker 5: kill this kid.
Speaker 4: Out of nowhere.
Speaker 2: You weren't even in the frame there.
Speaker 4: So I passed the puck. I was backing up, and
Speaker 4: I passed the puck.
Speaker 5: And he's chasing me, and usually you know, once I
Speaker 5: passed the puck, he's gonna turn back up Ice.
Speaker 4: This isn't good. Yeah, this isn't good. What do you say?
Speaker 4: But the boy's wrong, right, hey? And the boys.
Speaker 2: Another one he gets I need to know more about
Speaker 2: this dude, because you got them wobbly legs when you
Speaker 2: walked up.
Speaker 4: Oh no, I don't even remember that.
Speaker 5: All I remember is the fact that I passed the
Speaker 5: puck and most of the time the guy has come in,
Speaker 5: he's gonna turn head back up Ice.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no one said he kept coming.
Speaker 5: I'm like oh fucking next thing, you know, I have
Speaker 5: my my jersey over my head and he's punching my
Speaker 5: lights out. I'm like, what the hell just happened? And
Speaker 5: then I saw the video. I saw the picture. There's
Speaker 5: one still image that's like legendary in terms of like
Speaker 5: my life being legendary.
Speaker 4: I'm not very legendary.
Speaker 2: And it's a guy with a multimillion dollar bottle name
Speaker 2: that room.
Speaker 4: It's a tough pick. It's a tough pick trade. I
Speaker 4: might trade the vodka with my name on it to
Speaker 4: not have this picture on the internet. And my right hand.
Speaker 4: So I'm in the golf. I love golf. I remember
Speaker 4: being like, oh my god, he's gonna step in my hand,
Speaker 4: and I lived in my hand. I got two boys.
Speaker 4: At some point I say, boys, yeah, this is your
Speaker 4: old man right here getting his head punched in by
Speaker 4: Tim Jack.
Speaker 2: Hey, there's a picture of me that I could probably
Speaker 2: go without too, But I don't have a bottle to
Speaker 2: give up. Just me fucking conkied on the ground. No
Speaker 2: body moped out like flippers. Then he gets the cries
Speaker 2: you crying, crying.
Speaker 4: I got knocked out, told yeah, so you didn't I
Speaker 4: had one, Hey, that's when I tore my that's it.
Speaker 2: No, no on that one.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's me right there in the ball. Would
Speaker 4: you get blocked or something?
Speaker 2: Sleep dude, night night.
Speaker 4: So I had one concussion and I was younger. I
Speaker 4: think I was fifteen, and I actually woke up crying.
Speaker 4: So I'm guessing me, you didn't know, right, did you?
Speaker 4: Kind of? Yeah, I came to it. I was bawling
Speaker 4: from didn't know we threw an interception.
Speaker 2: I'm like trying to chase it down. And I was
Speaker 2: back then about four years ago. I'm all about getting
Speaker 2: the tackles on. I n t get them stats up. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know why I have the contract.
Speaker 4: Oh guys, the hustle got through and through. So I'm
Speaker 4: chasing this thing.
Speaker 2: I'm looking the ball's coming this way, and I'm kind
Speaker 2: of like using the sideline to my advantage.
Speaker 4: I always know I'm in the meetings too, with the
Speaker 4: defense in TETs. He got a relaxed guy. I'm using
Speaker 4: the sideline.
Speaker 2: I'm like going back and this dude hits me and
Speaker 2: I like do the neck whip and then flop. I
Speaker 2: go to sleep, and all of a sudden, a big
Speaker 2: fight breaks out between the Dolphins and the Titans, and
Speaker 2: I wake up and I'm kind of like also trying to.
Speaker 4: Fight, but but you don't know what's going on. I
Speaker 4: don't know, yeah exactly.
Speaker 2: And they're like, hey, Taylor, like it's fine, like just
Speaker 2: just sit down. I'm like no, I like, guys are fighting.
Speaker 2: I got to get in there. And they're like, no,
Speaker 2: you got knocked out. And I was like waiting because
Speaker 2: of you, exactly.
Speaker 4: And I'm like no, no, no, I didn't.
Speaker 2: And then I just start fucking bawling, crying. I go
Speaker 2: to sit on the bench and I'm crying, and our
Speaker 2: center Ben Jones comes up with like one of those
Speaker 2: like hand towels and the like puts it over my
Speaker 2: head like kind.
Speaker 4: Of leaving me alone.
Speaker 2: Exactly, And yeah, this is me getting up and like
Speaker 2: trying to like I'm out.
Speaker 4: Oh that was you, Yeah that was me right there.
Speaker 5: You actually were like people wouldn't know if they're watching
Speaker 5: that you had no clue what's going Oh that's scared.
Speaker 4: And then right up and then where are we going?
Speaker 4: Oh not a bit not really aware of where I
Speaker 4: was at that point, yeah, but but almost almost in
Speaker 4: your mind you think it was don't lay down don't
Speaker 4: lay down. Get up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it must be and must have been. They were
Speaker 2: getting hit and I remember like then all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: I was up.
Speaker 5: How many games did you miss after that one? I
Speaker 5: missed one.
Speaker 4: I got putting on this half a game.
Speaker 2: A little different for you is that twenty nineteen, this
Speaker 2: is the longest game in NFL history.
Speaker 4: We played. It was brutal, just over Well, wouldn't the
Speaker 4: longest game be a tie? No?
Speaker 2: Because it was there's so many This is tough. But
Speaker 2: you're gonna do the same thing to us with hockey
Speaker 2: in a second, So it's all good.
Speaker 4: I know, I don't know longest like on the clock
Speaker 4: in real life, as long as the game can go.
Speaker 2: There was a storm, there's a storm, so like there
Speaker 2: was kept being like lightning warnings or thunder and lightning warnings.
Speaker 2: I guess it's just thundered is not a dangerous thing,
Speaker 2: but the lightning is the dangerous thing. So if it's
Speaker 2: within a certain mileage of where we're playing, we all
Speaker 2: have to go inside, and like a vacuum, they have
Speaker 2: to evacuate.
Speaker 4: I assume I don't really play. I don't really clap
Speaker 4: on a golf really, if there's lightning in the air.
Speaker 4: You're back to the hat. Oh ship do you like?
Speaker 2: That?
Speaker 4: Thing's fla mingo, not a golfer. You put me on
Speaker 4: the course, he said, the hat bro play golf, that is.
Speaker 4: But we're our glove so it doesn't matter. You're not
Speaker 4: gonna see my had tattoos, any one of them. You
Speaker 4: wear a glove on one of them, No, not me.
Speaker 4: I wear them on both of them. How long was
Speaker 4: the delay of that game? Nine hours? What? There was
Speaker 4: a noon game. I think we got home at like
Speaker 4: nine at.
Speaker 1: Night, right, but the game wasn't nine hours right, half
Speaker 1: seven and a half hours?
Speaker 2: Thank you, Jack. I mean I was there. I was monkeying, DUDEO.
Speaker 4: We had another like a chilling in the locker room
Speaker 4: when he's you know when we had to get to.
Speaker 2: Go back in that game, yeah, because I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: I'm good night.
Speaker 4: Yeah I know. So I walk out during like.
Speaker 2: The second or third like lightning warning, and some dude
Speaker 2: I'm like outside kind of looking around, and some guys.
Speaker 4: Like you fucking bitch, you're a fucking bitch. Seventy seven
Speaker 4: A fan a fan.
Speaker 1: He's like three five rows up and I look at him,
Speaker 1: I'm like, don't sit, I start crying again, dude, And the.
Speaker 6: Lady walker I got was like, what the fuck are
Speaker 6: you doing?
Speaker 4: I was just like grabbing me, like what are we doing? Buddy?
Speaker 4: It was a tough gig, shit, man, and you're still
Speaker 4: doing it. Props to both you guys.
Speaker 2: Once a year.
Speaker 4: Holy shit.
Speaker 5: I watch NFL every Sunday and I can't believe what
Speaker 5: you guys go through. Yeah, but insane it is.
Speaker 4: In hockey.
Speaker 2: Hockey, how many games do you play? Eighty six games,
Speaker 2: eighty two two games?
Speaker 5: But it's it's just different you go play, especially your job,
Speaker 5: it's just boom boom contacts. Like you can go a
Speaker 5: whole game in hockey without getting hit, especially now with
Speaker 5: how the game has changed, it's made way less physical.
Speaker 4: I feel like football maybe is changing maybe a little
Speaker 4: less physical now.
Speaker 2: It's definitely changing, like the nineties, two thousand exactly.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but hockey now, I mean you get a penalty
Speaker 4: for hits now in hockey that would have been nothing,
Speaker 4: which I guess in football now you see some calls
Speaker 4: you're like, wait a minute, that's rough, and.
Speaker 2: Do they get ejected from the game.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's some clean hits too, you get ejected when
Speaker 4: I'm watching football, and same with hockey.
Speaker 2: But do you think hockey's getting softer?
Speaker 4: I do. I think it's gotten way softer.
Speaker 2: Now do you think it's way softer or a little softer?
Speaker 2: And you're like that generation, well, every ten years there's
Speaker 2: that guy that says, I know, these fucking guys don't
Speaker 2: care that they're they're soft now, this, that, and the other.
Speaker 5: And the problem for me saying that is I wasn't,
Speaker 5: you know, a tough player like that.
Speaker 4: Wasn't my game. I was kind of more skilled, and.
Speaker 5: So for me to be like the guy, yeah, exactly,
Speaker 5: it's a little flex I could pass the puck, but
Speaker 5: I don't. I don't bus has zero skills. This is
Speaker 5: the guy who could say it's a pussy game now
Speaker 5: because he was out there fighting, He was out there
Speaker 5: going through that. Whereas if I were to be the
Speaker 5: guy like this game is so soft, people be like, dude,
Speaker 5: you weren't even hard when you played. You know, you're
Speaker 5: one in four. But in still in the fact like that,
Speaker 5: I witnessed hits that would now be like guys get
Speaker 5: suspended and then it wasn't even a penalty.
Speaker 4: I can say the game has gotten softer, and in
Speaker 4: a way, it's like it's been good for the game
Speaker 4: because all this skill is shown now and you see
Speaker 4: all these players that are.
Speaker 5: Maybe wouldn't have been in the league before that are
Speaker 5: so skillful. You could see these amazing plays and highlights.
Speaker 5: But you do miss the old like everyone stands up
Speaker 5: in the arena for goals and fights, and.
Speaker 4: There are that many fights anymore.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the fights are like my favorite thing as a
Speaker 2: fight's very incredible.
Speaker 4: I'm watching if you go to a if you go
Speaker 4: to a hockey game, and I've long said I've been
Speaker 4: to three NFL games in person, two Steelers games when
Speaker 4: I was on the Penguins, and a Patriots game. They
Speaker 4: lost like four home games in twenty years, the Patriots
Speaker 4: one of them I was at. But it's made for
Speaker 4: TV game.
Speaker 5: I feel like football is personally with all the time
Speaker 5: outs and the stoppages.
Speaker 4: Hockey's made to be seen in person. Hockeys, no question
Speaker 4: about that.
Speaker 5: No, you go to a game, you're like, holy shit.
Speaker 5: And when you go to a game and see a fight.
Speaker 5: I mean my mother in law goes and she's she's
Speaker 5: not she doesn't know any Hawks. She's like, oh my god,
Speaker 5: she's standing up cheering for fights, So I wish there
Speaker 5: was more. I also I am happy guys aren't dealing
Speaker 5: with certain concussion issues.
Speaker 4: But fight fights are legit electric in hockey.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you talking about fights before. I forget this story
Speaker 1: because I was wanting to say it earlier.
Speaker 4: But when you get I gotta get your work dount up. Yeah,
Speaker 4: he got like his getting dummied right now. You got that,
Speaker 4: he got we got my man gets wagon.
Speaker 1: This guy he gets like duck craped one play what
Speaker 1: because he like bag tabs ovechkin.
Speaker 4: I got, I got fined. I got fined. Were you
Speaker 4: trying to do that?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 4: I wasn't. Actually lived was going to invade Ukraine twenty
Speaker 4: years later. So I speared him.
Speaker 1: But this bugget fucking hits him in the nuts, broad
Speaker 1: drops him. Everybody rushes him and just duck rapes him.
Speaker 4: Ship Well, I I but luckily I didn't actually duck
Speaker 4: get beat up. I didn't nobody.
Speaker 5: I went to kind of get my stick between his
Speaker 5: legs to try to like hold him from getting to
Speaker 5: the net by accident, got him in the nuts, got fined.
Speaker 5: When I got the call from the disciplinary head, he said, Uh,
Speaker 5: at least you got the right guy, which I was like,
Speaker 5: oh shit, I'm like if that made the news now,
Speaker 5: I mean there was no Twitter then or anything.
Speaker 4: But they were not a fan. Yeah right there. It
Speaker 4: was totally by accident. Look, I'm like, oh.
Speaker 5: Shit, somebody's gonna dumby me right now. Star rookie Alexandro
Speaker 5: Overschkin got him right in the nuts.
Speaker 4: He was dreaming too. He's like a.
Speaker 5: Streaming fort bullet, screaming rush and swear words.
Speaker 4: But I got for that. Oh here it goes, which
Speaker 4: was like the max. Fine, but nothing happened there and
Speaker 4: I didn't.
Speaker 5: Get kicked out of the game or any lucky. Oh
Speaker 5: my boys came in. That's team game. Team game.
Speaker 4: Oh somebody's got my jersey over my head. That was
Speaker 4: my issue from the back.
Speaker 2: He put some tape like a hook or something. Look
Speaker 2: at him, dude, the tint advisor. Here's a big opposite
Speaker 2: in hockey. For instead of hockey and NFL. If you
Speaker 2: have a visor in the NFL, that's like a saucy thing,
Speaker 2: that's a really dope like swaggy thing, you have.
Speaker 4: To be a receiver.
Speaker 2: I feel like, no, no, Taylor, you were a tint advisor.
Speaker 4: Oh dude, Hey, I didn't.
Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, no, my guy, dude, we'll
Speaker 2: try and wear like a little running back time I
Speaker 2: put a uniform on, I have so.
Speaker 4: Much you get something in the eye or do you
Speaker 4: just do it for the looks?
Speaker 2: Looks?
Speaker 4: I love it.
Speaker 2: I love it it up the darky? Where's that thing at?
Speaker 4: Wow? So I've actually are you the only offensive lineman
Speaker 4: in the league. Williams, Trey Williams, Jason Peters, only the Stars,
Speaker 4: Only the Stars.
Speaker 2: There's there's a there's a handful of guys, but anyway,
Speaker 2: the hockey thing, there's a bunch of guys that well,
Speaker 2: now you have to wear visors all the time.
Speaker 4: That's a good drip right there. That one. Yeah, that's
Speaker 4: le jets.
Speaker 2: And so that's not even my darkest VI is he either,
Speaker 2: my guy?
Speaker 4: That's because it was a day game.
Speaker 2: No, No, I'm all dark all the time. You got
Speaker 2: to go through like a big process to even get it.
Speaker 2: It's a really hard process to get it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like I would try for sinners, but sometimes you'll
Speaker 1: get fined if they they'll get you off to switch
Speaker 1: am on at halftime or something.
Speaker 4: You're yeah, why would that affect Why would they care
Speaker 4: if it's if the vice can.
Speaker 1: Cuss and they got to see your eyes a medical thing. Really,
Speaker 1: they come up on you and they can't see your
Speaker 1: eyes or nothing like that. They're trying to get like
Speaker 1: your mouth piece out or some ship.
Speaker 4: Iron to wear. So it's all good. I never did either,
Speaker 4: really never did either. Yeah, that was you were about
Speaker 4: to say, no, I was actually gonna say that. I
Speaker 4: think in the NHL. I'm not one hundred percent sure,
Speaker 4: but I'm pretty sure that you can't have there's a
Speaker 4: darkness thing for the tint as well, because Ovechkin in
Speaker 4: the Olympics one year he had the straight up like
Speaker 4: Oakley sunglasses where you see reflection in the visor. But
Speaker 4: then it wasn't allowed in the NHL.
Speaker 1: Well that that video you just showed he had a
Speaker 1: like a smoked advisor.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like, I don't, but that one's that's see, that's
Speaker 5: international play. That's just Russia UNI. That's the one that
Speaker 5: is not allowed in the NHL. And that's a that's
Speaker 5: an international tournament. So he's the CCM covered in red
Speaker 5: tape at the front of the helmet, so that's not
Speaker 5: allowed in NHL play.
Speaker 4: Which ironically, like, I.
Speaker 5: Don't know why, Yeah, that's weird, but I guess it
Speaker 5: makes sense in terms of like medical why they want
Speaker 5: to see their eyes for concussions, So Taylor's not crying
Speaker 5: during the game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, or after or any yeah between commercial I'm the
Speaker 1: same way.
Speaker 2: So why did they change the rule in the NHL
Speaker 2: to where you have to go from bucket now you
Speaker 2: have to wear advisor.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 5: That was just kind of like as everything gets a
Speaker 5: little softer, it was I don't necessarily like disagree with it.
Speaker 5: I love not wearing advisor. I came into the league.
Speaker 5: So when I came into the league, if you had
Speaker 5: a visor on, you were a coward. So that was
Speaker 5: just that's what it was. And so you look at
Speaker 5: like Martin Saint Louis now the coach of the Canadians,
Speaker 5: but Hall of Fame player, unbelievable. He's like five seven,
Speaker 5: maybe even five six. He came into the NHL and
Speaker 5: like Calgary Flames let him go and he had nothing
Speaker 5: on his face.
Speaker 4: And because I think he knew, like I can't do it.
Speaker 4: And so over time, like Brian Barrard was a player
Speaker 4: first overall pick, he lost his eye. There's been some issues.
Speaker 5: Where it's kind of like, all right, well, if you
Speaker 5: could still play at a high level with a visor
Speaker 5: on to protect your eyes, let's maybe.
Speaker 4: Make it a rule.
Speaker 5: But there's a few guys left to a grandfather and
Speaker 5: Ryan Getz lafts one in Anaheim. I can't think of
Speaker 5: the others. But now if you come into the NHL,
Speaker 5: you gotta wear advisor. And when I went to the
Speaker 5: HL on the way down, as I got, you know,
Speaker 5: my career ended, I had to put one on and
Speaker 5: I was like, holy shit.
Speaker 4: This is bizarre. Same thing.
Speaker 5: I went to play in Europe and Russia had to
Speaker 5: wear one. I got used to it, but I did
Speaker 5: love the fact that I didn't have one for a
Speaker 5: long time. Yeah, because you just feel like I actually
Speaker 5: remember being younger and going to NHL games, and you know,
Speaker 5: you grow up with the cage and you're like, I
Speaker 5: can't wait to have nothing on.
Speaker 4: I want to make the NHL and just throw the
Speaker 4: helmet on. There's no cage. You get a button.
Speaker 5: I remember going out for games just be like like
Speaker 5: old school, like I'm playing it feel like the man exactly.
Speaker 5: So that's that's changed, amongst many other things. But I
Speaker 5: think in the end it's probably for the better because
Speaker 5: guys still fight with him on Now.
Speaker 4: Though when I came into the league, you could you
Speaker 4: you'd square off with the guy. I never squared off.
Speaker 4: That was another thing of my five fights, they were
Speaker 4: all out of like something that happened in the game.
Speaker 4: You know, the real tough guys like Bizz, he.
Speaker 5: Would square off. That's like the panic of like, I'm
Speaker 5: in a fight. But you used to just be able
Speaker 5: to take your helmet off. Say one guy a devisor
Speaker 5: on you didn't. Let's both take them off so I
Speaker 5: don't hit your visor. Now you can't take your helmet
Speaker 5: off before a fight.
Speaker 4: No, they've changed it so like you can't square off,
Speaker 4: take the helmet off, and then go. You take the
Speaker 4: helmet off, the refs come fine and stupid rule.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a ridiculous. Well, it's like the taunting role
Speaker 2: in the NFL we talked about before were on this podcast.
Speaker 4: In the NFL are a wild nightmare.
Speaker 2: You say, as much as you want, we'll get.
Speaker 1: Fined, but you want to throw the end of a
Speaker 1: game now is just fucking crazy crazy.
Speaker 4: It's like you're watching good games and then you see
Speaker 4: these calls by these fools, and it's like and gambling
Speaker 4: on the games. I'm like, oh my god, what the
Speaker 4: fuck is going on these idiots?
Speaker 5: Now, let me ask you to why can't they be
Speaker 5: full time employees.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think that's that is so dumb. That's where it's headed.
Speaker 2: I think the refs, Yeah, they're not. They have like
Speaker 2: they're like lawyers and the lawyers and teachers and ship. Yeah,
Speaker 2: like just make them refs like that's your job. It's
Speaker 2: other job. And there's got to be some sort of
Speaker 2: fitness that they have to They have to like meet
Speaker 2: some sort of fitness requirement. They're gonna be able to
Speaker 2: run a mile in seven minutes, eight minutes, whatever it is.
Speaker 1: Would you say, ty to tell them about your I'm
Speaker 1: buying you got a ref combine. Wanted the rest to
Speaker 1: go through like a combine, Like, oh, yeah, they need
Speaker 1: to go through the whole fitnesses.
Speaker 2: Because there was a game in the playoffs Dallas. It
Speaker 2: was Dallas versus San Francisco, and Dallas ran a quarterback
Speaker 2: draw and now the play itself probably an if he
Speaker 2: called to do with that, like only a games left yet, Yeah,
Speaker 2: but they ran they put the ball down and then
Speaker 2: they went to go snap it. But the ref has
Speaker 2: to touch the ball after it's a first down, so
Speaker 2: he has to go touch the ball. He grabs the ball,
Speaker 2: backs it up, but all that time he spent running
Speaker 2: from behind the play to there was like an ungodly
Speaker 2: amount of time that they might have got one.
Speaker 4: More playoff or clocked it and.
Speaker 2: Then had another play a situation where they go averts
Speaker 2: or I don't know shit about it.
Speaker 4: The ref being a slab basically cost them that guy's games,
Speaker 4: but games. Hey, Dallas alight with the boys listening, I think.
Speaker 2: Everybody's a bust.
Speaker 4: That's how you got a lamb. You know what I'm saying?
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Speaker 4: Now And I didn't know the name going in. I'll
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Speaker 5: I went in one or two and you know, two
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Speaker 5: the best players in the country. You're living in an arbor, Michigan.
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Speaker 2: twenty five minutes?
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Speaker 6: Bank Bill, I was kiss my bad.
Speaker 4: You do make banks? Can you make sixteen million this year?
Speaker 5: You should be fucking boiling bank women and sixteen times?
Speaker 2: What will made this year? I think it was the
Speaker 2: nomber season.
Speaker 5: More than that, I would hope it's one hundred ships
Speaker 5: the times, aren't you signs?
Speaker 6: Like halfway through the dude, oh my god, busting the
Speaker 6: boys with you bro Boy and the Boy last Hall.
Speaker 4: I love it? What was over here?
Speaker 1: Look, you're just getting sandwiched and doing it, and so
Speaker 1: what you're thinking, like, damn, I wish you had that
Speaker 1: perspective when you're stressed throughout the entire year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent. But we're not in the middle
Speaker 2: of it right now.
Speaker 4: Why do you get so stressed?
Speaker 5: I'm curious like you have, Like I think we're all curious.
Speaker 4: Like you're one of the top all linemen in league.
Speaker 4: You make all this money.
Speaker 5: Like I understand that you want to be good at
Speaker 5: your job, But do you stress throughout the season?
Speaker 4: Big time? Yeah? I stressed.
Speaker 5: No, I remember that. I remember being like always panicked. Maybe,
Speaker 5: like you use your job.
Speaker 2: Something's gonna happen. What if I give up a sack,
Speaker 2: what if I let the boys down? What if I
Speaker 2: do something that cost us the game? It's like this
Speaker 2: crazy anxiety.
Speaker 4: It's good. It makes you good.
Speaker 2: But there's there's levels to it, like if you use
Speaker 2: it as fuel, and it's like kind of I think
Speaker 2: Mike Tyson said, this is like fear is like fire if.
Speaker 4: You use it correcte.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you use it correctly, you can cook food,
Speaker 2: keep yourself warm. But if you let it get out
Speaker 2: of control, it can burn down your house, can burn
Speaker 2: down everything in your life.
Speaker 4: You ever talked to a sports like colleges throughout the season?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I started this year and it was fucking unbelievable.
Speaker 4: Game changer.
Speaker 2: Game changer, dude.
Speaker 5: I met a guy who works with a bunch of
Speaker 5: the Bruins, and it's like people kind of laugh at it.
Speaker 5: I think, like old school people maybe laugh at that stuff.
Speaker 5: But I wish I did when I was still playing.
Speaker 5: And granted I went through a bunch of different things,
Speaker 5: like I was always warried, always nervous, always panicking, and
Speaker 5: I just wish I had somebody like.
Speaker 4: That make a difference. You may find a douce who
Speaker 4: did it.
Speaker 5: No, no, like nobody really did it. Nobody really. If
Speaker 5: they did it, they didn't talk about it.
Speaker 4: It was different. I mean, you guys know it's meant
Speaker 4: right now.
Speaker 2: It's way different it's way different right now the last
Speaker 2: three years exactly.
Speaker 5: I feel like in the last two three years things
Speaker 5: have really switched. I've been retired this September will be
Speaker 5: seven years. So it's just like it was. It wasn't
Speaker 5: the same. Like if you if you came in you're
Speaker 5: like guys I was talking a while doctor sports psych colleges,
Speaker 5: they'd be like, what about what dude?
Speaker 4: Like it was there was that.
Speaker 5: There's just people look at things a different way now,
Speaker 5: which can be good.
Speaker 4: I also think sometimes it can be bad. But as
Speaker 4: long as like you're talking to somebody, if you're that
Speaker 4: nervous about the season being as good of a player
Speaker 4: you are, it shows Imagine the guys who are really
Speaker 4: on the fringe, what they're going through.
Speaker 2: Some dude, someone get well a fucking towel, dude, no
Speaker 2: French mine.
Speaker 4: By the way, bish should be here and they can
Speaker 4: cross and we can cross and then boom there you go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I don't take that as a shot.
Speaker 2: I mean it's true.
Speaker 5: I mean I've seen you sign with different teams. It's
Speaker 5: gonna be hard, right, Like you're you're kind of looking
Speaker 5: for a job when camp starts, right and then just
Speaker 5: staying in shape looking to get signing throughout the season.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it kind of just depends on how
Speaker 1: you look at it. I would say the last few years,
Speaker 1: I did my damn this to go as long as
Speaker 1: I could by not signing in training camp so that
Speaker 1: way I could save my body grind.
Speaker 4: Last year, she almost want to miss training camp.
Speaker 1: Correct, Like the year before I got signed to the
Speaker 1: Titans ten days before the first game. The year before
Speaker 1: I got signed on to the Saints, I ended up
Speaker 1: getting hurt, getting cut, and then that's when I got
Speaker 1: picked up by the Raiders that year. This past year,
Speaker 1: I got offered at the beginning of training camp and
Speaker 1: said no, thought there would probably be more. There wasn't
Speaker 1: went throughout the year, didn't get a call, and then
Speaker 1: in November is when I got a call and I
Speaker 1: was thinking about being done.
Speaker 4: I was like, hard to keep training when you're like,
Speaker 4: I don't know what that is the hardest part.
Speaker 1: Not that it's like I don't know what's coming, but
Speaker 1: I have so much fun with this and you're kind
Speaker 1: of just like, yo, I just I feel good about
Speaker 1: the career I've had and I feel like I've gotten
Speaker 1: a carve out my transition, so if it doesn't happen
Speaker 1: more so, it's just like it's a bitch to go
Speaker 1: in and train for football every day. Yeah you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, because it's like if I do gets that,
Speaker 1: you don't want to go out there, Like I'm running
Speaker 1: down those punt and special teams feel like I'm about
Speaker 1: to tear my hammies. And that's just the training that
Speaker 1: I was doing. It's like if you slip up at all,
Speaker 1: like you can just be hurt fucking playing out there.
Speaker 1: So the worst part was like, fuck, I gotta go
Speaker 1: in and work out, put a couple hours into the
Speaker 1: gym before I do all the things with busting and
Speaker 1: all the boys.
Speaker 4: Let me ask you guys one thing.
Speaker 2: Once you know, I heard every single word No, he
Speaker 2: was like, listen into every cough.
Speaker 4: I went a couple of times they might have caught
Speaker 4: in the mic. They might not have went. Oh hate
Speaker 4: both guys right now, fucking hate. I can't wait. I'm
Speaker 4: getting interviewed. Don't hate me. Yeah, speaking to get interview,
Speaker 4: you have a question for both you guys. So that's
Speaker 4: kind of a different deal podcaster.
Speaker 1: So I can also ask, no, would you say nothing
Speaker 1: inside Joe you nothing again, nothing.
Speaker 4: Up ship, it was gonna be Clark, You're it was.
Speaker 4: It wasn't a big all right, cool either way. NFL,
Speaker 4: NFL guys, are you like any show? Any show?
Speaker 5: Players like these guys don't even have guaranteed contracts. I
Speaker 5: know you get like signing bonuses and things like that,
Speaker 5: but like.
Speaker 4: You said, you get hurt, you get cut. Will the
Speaker 4: union like ever change that or is that just kind
Speaker 4: of how football is gonna because there's so.
Speaker 2: Many guys on each roster, you'd like to think so
Speaker 2: that eventually it would be like guaranteed money. Cousins, your boy,
Speaker 2: he was one of the I think the only guy
Speaker 2: to get guaranteed money.
Speaker 4: Every dollar he signed for he's getting no matter what.
Speaker 2: I think it was, it was that in the negotiation.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so you signed a deal for eighty right, Uh yeah,
Speaker 4: what's guaranteed? Fifty? If it was guaranteed, so it's the
Speaker 4: and that doesn't matter.
Speaker 5: Injured, not too many clucks, not too many clucks, It
Speaker 5: doesn't matter.
Speaker 4: Injured. Cut Now it's cool. And so when agents are
Speaker 4: doing the deals, it's it doesn't even matter the big number.
Speaker 2: It's all about Yeah, your your first number, is like
Speaker 2: what's the guarantee? What's the first and then and then
Speaker 2: it's what's the first three year money? Or like if
Speaker 2: you sent a four year contract, what's the first two
Speaker 2: year money? Like what's that?
Speaker 4: Let's get it.
Speaker 2: No, yeah, but you want that as frontloaded as possible.
Speaker 2: I got super lucky because my my agency's great. CAA
Speaker 2: is awesome. But the first three years were so frontloaded
Speaker 2: that like what I'm getting paid now after the year
Speaker 2: I had where I could be staring at like a
Speaker 2: cut or a trade. My numbers are so low that like,
Speaker 2: even if they did try to replace me, they'd have
Speaker 2: to go spend four five six million more dollars to
Speaker 2: go get me adequate to replace me.
Speaker 4: Know, so your Asian did a great job.
Speaker 2: That in an outstanding job. Nice, I gotta do better
Speaker 2: job staying healthy.
Speaker 1: But with the players saying though you, I mean, you
Speaker 1: wish that would happen, but our union is so big,
Speaker 1: there's so many players.
Speaker 2: He is also trash too, but clearly but bro say that, well,
Speaker 2: I think a lot of them stayed in the locker
Speaker 2: might have a podcast. I'll say they're fucking dumpster fire.
Speaker 4: Taylor doesn't go to any of the meetings though, so
Speaker 4: it's kind of because you know what you need, change
Speaker 4: the same thing. Here's what here's what you need out
Speaker 4: of Tailor. You need Taylor to be.
Speaker 1: Like an eighty five million dollar man, and you need
Speaker 1: these high paying guys to be fully guaranteed at a
Speaker 1: lower top ceiling number.
Speaker 4: Because you need guys to reset.
Speaker 1: Like Kirk Cousins, he was like somebody who's trying to
Speaker 1: like set an example. He wasn't like out there pioneering
Speaker 1: for it, but being on Washington with them, he's like, bro,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to He would go three year fully guaranteed deals.
Speaker 1: Now you have to get to the market to do that,
Speaker 1: which is a gamble because of injury and risk. But
Speaker 1: he gets to the market and then he gets to
Speaker 1: command what he wants because somebody off to more like
Speaker 1: in the nineties, but it wasn't fully guaranteed. So he
Speaker 1: ended up signing with the Vikings that eighty nine fully
Speaker 1: guaranteed for three years, and then when they renegotiate with him,
Speaker 1: he fully guarantees every year. You would need the guys
Speaker 1: who signed like the big, longer term deals with like
Speaker 1: a high ceiling, say one hundred million dollars and then
Speaker 1: sixty of it's guaranteed that window. You need guys to
Speaker 1: take less than that hundred healing and try to maximize
Speaker 1: that guarantee to kind of like reset, to help like
Speaker 1: set the example.
Speaker 4: But who with quarterbacks do that?
Speaker 2: Quarterbacks have to be the ones to do it and
Speaker 2: everything quarterbacks get paid more. Well, then the guys who
Speaker 2: catch the ball from the quarterbacks need to get paid more,
Speaker 2: and the guys who protect the quarterback have to get
Speaker 2: paid more, and then the guys who are rushing the
Speaker 2: quarterback have to get paid more. And it's kind of
Speaker 2: like this downhill effect of when quarterbacks set the market
Speaker 2: for everybody and then you have your own categories of
Speaker 2: different But I feel like, not knowing anything.
Speaker 5: The guys who protect the quarterback may be more important
Speaker 5: than who he's throwing it to, because like if you
Speaker 5: ain't protecting the me ain't getting it.
Speaker 1: To that guy anyways, it's being modest. Left tackles get
Speaker 1: they get out right. Quarterbacks do get the absolutely most
Speaker 1: left tackle.
Speaker 4: Like this likely thing you.
Speaker 2: See how you see how much like there's going down here.
Speaker 2: I could be the next victim of what's been happening
Speaker 2: to you. For the last thirty minutes any second. So
Speaker 2: I wanted I want to say the receivers first before
Speaker 2: I said me.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Even know, if you feel me, I'm like in my
Speaker 1: head and I'm over here hiding at each other.
Speaker 4: You know I'm playing. Then I'm like trying to catch
Speaker 4: up my head. Am I. Now we're both just trying
Speaker 4: to impress you. That's what it is, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that I think all that ship is
Speaker 2: probably won't happen because there's so many more guys in
Speaker 2: the NFL, and they are in hockey or baseball, and
Speaker 2: I think a lot of guys just care about what
Speaker 2: that big number looks like.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 2: They want to be the highest paid guy, and it's like.
Speaker 4: That's number one seasons Sports Center or whatever.
Speaker 2: You could give somebody an apy like sixteen, but pay
Speaker 2: him like, you know, nine in the first year, ten
Speaker 2: in the second year, and then twenty three in the
Speaker 2: next year or whatever would even and out to sixteen.
Speaker 2: But that twenty three is not guaranteed, So they make
Speaker 2: nine and ten and get cut, you know.
Speaker 4: What I'm saying, And that twenty three you planned on
Speaker 4: you're not seeing it.
Speaker 2: It's yeah, exactly, I've seen it. But you get to
Speaker 2: be fucking cool and act like you're the highest paid
Speaker 2: dude when really it's like, are you going to see that?
Speaker 4: Though?
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying right, it's a crazy, crazy world,
Speaker 5: crazy world watching NFL salaries and how it all works.
Speaker 2: And you know, the wild thing about it all is
Speaker 2: the salary doesn't even matter because if someone's over the cap,
Speaker 2: all you have to do is go to their big
Speaker 2: name guys and say, hey, Aaron Rodgers, like, what we're
Speaker 2: gonna do is convert your entire year's salary into a
Speaker 2: signing bonus and pay you minimum, and then you just
Speaker 2: freed up and they don't care if he max. No,
Speaker 2: that's huge for you because you get the money right now. Yeah,
Speaker 2: all your money right now, and they make minimum six
Speaker 2: months later, as opposed to sitting here and then six
Speaker 2: months from now making his forty million dollars he could
Speaker 2: make thirty nine right now, and then they save thirty
Speaker 2: nine or thirty five. I don't know what the numbers
Speaker 2: in the cap are, so the cap really is not
Speaker 2: a real thing. It just depends on much cash flow.
Speaker 2: Teams having what they're willing to do.
Speaker 4: I've always.
Speaker 5: Kind of looked at like since the NHL got a
Speaker 5: salary cap with the NFL, it's like those guys who
Speaker 5: are hired as the capologist, Like what a job they
Speaker 5: have they especially with the NHL.
Speaker 4: Now, ologists is a nice term. What a term. You're
Speaker 4: such a nerd with that term, but you're so valuable. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's like a valuable nerdlogist. I'm a capologist of the
Speaker 4: Tennessee Titans. Yeah, and I decide what Taylor L. Wong's
Speaker 4: gonna make next year.
Speaker 5: And I think like those guys though, because there's GMS
Speaker 5: in hockey, they played hockey for thirty years. Some of
Speaker 5: them they don't know shit. They need that guy to
Speaker 5: tell them. I can't give this guy that. It is
Speaker 5: confusing for players.
Speaker 2: Why do you think the money's so low in hockey?
Speaker 2: And I'm relatively speaking to football because like Crosby signed
Speaker 2: one hundred and plus million dollar contract right about six
Speaker 2: seven years ago, somebody signed someone in OVI.
Speaker 4: Signed a huge deal that he did himself too.
Speaker 2: But it was like, but like they signed these big contracts,
Speaker 2: but it's like ten years, eleven year contract, the.
Speaker 5: Biggest salary in hockey, I think, so you can only
Speaker 5: make embarrassing it's like eighteen percent of the team's salary cap,
Speaker 5: like one guy can make. There's like a max to
Speaker 5: how much you can make. But hockey, I mean it's growing,
Speaker 5: it's getting better. But what's odd to me is that
Speaker 5: in the early two thousands there was guys making ten
Speaker 5: million a year, and now the best players make ten
Speaker 5: million a year. So it's like, there really isn't that
Speaker 5: jump in terms of like you've seen in the other sports.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 5: Granted, baseball's got one hundred and sixty two games with
Speaker 5: all these sixty thousand people at games, footballs.
Speaker 2: That own the day that we but hold on real
Speaker 2: quick with baseball, like I've never watched a baseball game
Speaker 2: that wasn't the playoffs.
Speaker 4: Fifth pitcher making thirteen million a year.
Speaker 2: But I've never watched a baseball game that wasn't the
Speaker 2: playoffs where it's packed. It's like, you know, every game
Speaker 2: it's best in the club.
Speaker 4: Fenway Regley, the.
Speaker 5: Right there, there's like a there isn't a salary cap.
Speaker 5: But if they go away, if they go over, there's
Speaker 5: some sort of there's a luxury tax or something like that.
Speaker 4: But great job.
Speaker 2: Shout out blost dude, that was fall.
Speaker 4: So I will say this, I I will say this. No,
Speaker 4: it's pink Whitney. I'm actually like immune to it. It's
Speaker 4: me my blood, selling my blood. This is the battery.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, They're selling my skin tone.
Speaker 4: After a week in Fort Lauderdale. What are we talking about?
Speaker 5: Oh, baseball, No, baseball luxury, luxury numbers and basketball there's
Speaker 5: only what ten guys a team and it's so big,
Speaker 5: like they get Chinese money.
Speaker 4: But hockey it's.
Speaker 5: Getting better, but it is not the most popular sport
Speaker 5: in the world.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's just how it is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it is worldwide as opposed to like NFL,
Speaker 2: who's like getting into Europe and getting into multiple countries
Speaker 2: other countries. But it's not like you go anywhere in
Speaker 2: the world and you can play hockey except for maybe
Speaker 2: like South America or Africa or Africa. So two continents,
Speaker 2: assuming you know what I'm saying, there's a whole bunch
Speaker 2: of other ship and outcrabit. That's it's going wild up there.
Speaker 4: With the with the penguins.
Speaker 2: Yeah whatever, anyway, you know what.
Speaker 4: I'm saying, what is this?
Speaker 2: This is the average.
Speaker 4: And what are we like six or seven? We we're
Speaker 4: ahead of Italy's We're ahead of Italy's soccer league.
Speaker 5: That's not bad. I mean we're head of Germany soccer league.
Speaker 5: It's hockey. Yeah, it's hard. It's hard to describe. I
Speaker 5: mean it's not It's not the most popular sport in
Speaker 5: the world. I think part of it is hockey is
Speaker 5: very expensive game to play, very expensive when you're younger.
Speaker 5: You need to quitment, you need ice time. The ice
Speaker 5: time now in Boston, you know, granted changes across the country.
Speaker 5: You mentioned your dad's from a Dina place like that.
Speaker 5: They have like ten outdoor rinks. It's awesome. Boston. Now
Speaker 5: it's like four and dollars for an hour ivice and
Speaker 5: then you got to buy all this gear and then
Speaker 5: you got to pay a couple of grand to play
Speaker 5: on the team. Not everyone can do it, you know,
Speaker 5: and you get these amazing athletes in the NFL and
Speaker 5: the NBA.
Speaker 4: You grab a ball, you go out and play.
Speaker 5: And so I think, like how difficult it is to
Speaker 5: get into the sport kind of translates to layter on
Speaker 5: in terms of.
Speaker 4: Like how big the sport is now. I do think
Speaker 4: that Anshaw getting with the ESPN. They're back with the
Speaker 4: ESPN this year is good.
Speaker 5: They paid a lot more money than prior, like NBC
Speaker 5: Sports Adam and things like that, so that could be good, but.
Speaker 4: There's a way to go.
Speaker 2: Do you think it's some of some of these rule
Speaker 2: changes that I am making a little more soft?
Speaker 4: I think I think it does. I think it does
Speaker 4: hurt a little bit. Yeah, I think it. I think
Speaker 4: people love fights.
Speaker 5: We said it earlier and if you go to games,
Speaker 5: people love fights. But like you guys have learned with
Speaker 5: doing this job as the podcast and being athletes, like
Speaker 5: Twitter speaks for a lot of people, even though it's
Speaker 5: not like the actual world you're living in, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean, Like Twitter's and so it's a vocal
Speaker 5: minority that drives me insane and like, unfortunately for my life,
Speaker 5: I have to be on it like it's part of
Speaker 5: my job, but it drives me crazy because in hockey sense,
Speaker 5: Twitter's the worst thing that ever happened on hockey. Twitter
Speaker 5: has all these reporters and all these fans who like,
Speaker 5: every time there's a concussion they're going not and every
Speaker 5: time there's a fight. That's so unhealthy the guy's gonna
Speaker 5: have a concussion and he's gonna deal with CTE and
Speaker 5: it's like, all right, well, everyone watching the game was
Speaker 5: on their feet going nuts for it.
Speaker 4: Everyone's talking about it. The guy who's who fought were
Speaker 4: willing to do it. But we got you on Twitter
Speaker 4: saying how bad this is for the game and for
Speaker 4: some in in some instances, the league really responds to
Speaker 4: like different tweets and different action on Twitter where it's
Speaker 4: like it's kind of bad for the game.
Speaker 2: In a sense, it seems kind of weird to me
Speaker 2: that like hockey and from the media standpoint that like
Speaker 2: hockey players, I know a couple of players and the
Speaker 2: Predators are have great personalities, great dudes, but you watch
Speaker 2: some of their interviews and they look like fucking they
Speaker 2: have a stick up their ass. Another thing, and that's
Speaker 2: another that's the thing that like they kind of tell
Speaker 2: you to do right. You've got to be vanilla, you
Speaker 2: gotta be because in a weird way, this is a
Speaker 2: gentleman's sport.
Speaker 5: It's a big time it's like, not taking away from
Speaker 5: any other sport, but hockey it's like.
Speaker 4: It's a team thing. It's all about a team. There's
Speaker 4: no iron team, all the cliches. Where there's a me,
Speaker 4: there's a me. And that's kind of what I've learned
Speaker 4: later on. I'm like, oh shit, I should have been
Speaker 4: talking way more. I could have vogg go when I
Speaker 4: was playing.
Speaker 2: You probably would have been traded ten more times. You
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: You traded seventeen times. I would have been twenty seven total.
Speaker 5: But I think that players in hockey for a long
Speaker 5: time have been just keep your mouth shot, give the
Speaker 5: old cliche answers, and don't ruffle any feathers, don't give
Speaker 5: the other team bulletin board material. And then you see
Speaker 5: these other sports and you see NFL players and NBA
Speaker 5: guys who are willing to go out on a limb
Speaker 5: and get themselves to be the center of attention. It
Speaker 5: sounds bad, but it's not, and it grows the game.
Speaker 5: It's like personalities, and hockey's doing better on that. Like
Speaker 5: guys who are getting the instagrams, guys are wearing different outfits.
Speaker 5: They've some teams have started getting rid of the the
Speaker 5: dress code you need to go to the game.
Speaker 2: Stuff that like what the dress code usually likes. I
Speaker 2: hate I hate getting you off time yeah, and shoes too.
Speaker 2: You can kind of wear jays if you want to
Speaker 2: wear Joah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, now probably, but like before, like you were playing, No,
Speaker 5: not really. I mean in a way, it's like the
Speaker 5: more individuals that grow their brands, the better the whole
Speaker 5: sport does. And hockeys just lagging so far behind on that,
Speaker 5: lagging behind because guys don't want to be the guy
Speaker 5: on the team that the guys like, what the fuck, man.
Speaker 4: It's about the team.
Speaker 5: Why why are you bringing attention to yourself where I
Speaker 5: personally think other sports guys don't care.
Speaker 4: I mean, we don't care.
Speaker 2: Well why, yeah, it does? You ahead, will you take this?
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say it does a little bit
Speaker 1: like that is true in a sense, but also like
Speaker 1: you get, there's a lot of like team guys and
Speaker 1: not even that, but the coaches preach it, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean?
Speaker 2: Ye, Like, I know, you know, Rape's kind of big
Speaker 2: on that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, don't do stuff in the Pats, which is kind
Speaker 4: of like nobody say where are the Pats of the South?
Speaker 4: For sure, Yeah, you guys are.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a little bit like that for sure.
Speaker 1: Raye would always bust my balls like I would do,
Speaker 1: like tweets and stuff like that, like, oh, you make
Speaker 1: it about you, make it about you, And I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: all I did was say they was the best third
Speaker 1: string uh team, or that you've then Tennessee's ever signed.
Speaker 4: But making it about me as hell, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean.
Speaker 1: But He's just like, you know, don't do stuff that
Speaker 1: I hurt the team or don't make it about you,
Speaker 1: like it's team, team, team.
Speaker 2: He's right, because when I get in the season, I
Speaker 2: won't do the podcast and I all like Twitter, Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's it's it's more of an insecurity than anything else.
Speaker 2: Is you don't want to walk into the locker room
Speaker 2: after a loss or you don't have a bad game
Speaker 2: and the boys are looking at you like you just
Speaker 2: fucking care what this podcast which is.
Speaker 4: I know my argument would be like and it's the
Speaker 4: way you're saying it, and it's way easier being retired.
Speaker 5: And looking back. But it's like, all right, Rabes, I
Speaker 5: love how I'm calling Mike Vrabel Rabes. Yeah, everybody, I
Speaker 5: when I'm done.
Speaker 4: I got I gotta make money.
Speaker 5: And this is like leading me into the end of
Speaker 5: my career and like, yeah, right now, Like if you
Speaker 5: don't believe I'm all in for this team, that's one thing.
Speaker 5: But if I can do that and also set myself
Speaker 5: up for when I'm done, man, I need to find
Speaker 5: someone I'm finished. So it's like to build your own
Speaker 5: brand in hockey and probably some parts of football seems selfish,
Speaker 5: but it's in a way like everyone's career comes to
Speaker 5: an end. It's not easy for anyone, and then you
Speaker 5: need to for most guys make money, and even if
Speaker 5: you have enough money, you need to do something. So
Speaker 5: it's like that can kind of create stuff for you
Speaker 5: in the future where if you're just quiet and yourself
Speaker 5: at the end, you're like, shit, why didn't I do
Speaker 5: that stuff I wanted to do, because right now I
Speaker 5: might have something else.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: The one thing I always lean on is like, when
Speaker 1: we do this stuff is the logo. We played for
Speaker 1: the logo, right, But when we're done playing for the
Speaker 1: logo or the logo, cut trade you. They're not gonna
Speaker 1: make sure you're set up for the next thing. So
Speaker 1: when you're trying to build it while you're a player
Speaker 1: shaking the hands, when you're better looking, your jokes are funnier.
Speaker 1: All this shit and building your platform, then you have
Speaker 1: something to transition into because that team's not going to
Speaker 1: take care of you when it's over and they're done
Speaker 1: with you.
Speaker 5: I remember, So I got traded from Pittsburgh to Anaheim.
Speaker 5: We went to the Cup finals in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 4: We lost.
Speaker 5: I got traded at the deadline the next year, and
Speaker 5: then they went on to win the Cup.
Speaker 4: So that was tough. But I was. I was. I
Speaker 4: was with my dad.
Speaker 2: That is fucking tough.
Speaker 4: Dude, dude, holy shit, Me and another guy that were
Speaker 4: on the team the year before. And then they went
Speaker 4: to game seven.
Speaker 5: We lost to Detroit in the Cup finals, and they
Speaker 5: played Detroit again. They beat Detroit in game seven. So
Speaker 5: we're watching Game seven. I was texting this kid in
Speaker 5: Pittsburgh won and I was actually really happy for my buddies.
Speaker 5: I really was, but it's was crushing and like we
Speaker 5: got so fucked up that night. It was like what
Speaker 5: else are you gonna do? But I don't even know
Speaker 5: how I just thought of that, But I ended up
Speaker 5: getting traded. Oh, because I got trade to Edmonton. I'm
Speaker 5: sorry Anaheim, and I was sitting with my dad one time.
Speaker 5: Anaheim was good, Edmonton tough city, but I was, I
Speaker 5: was really struggling. I had some injuries, and I was
Speaker 5: just I wasn't the same player I was when I
Speaker 5: signed my like one big contract, and I remember saying
Speaker 5: to my dad, I was like, I wish I could,
Speaker 5: like I almost like want to give some of this
Speaker 5: money back. I fucking I'm so bad. I don't deserve this.
Speaker 5: And he was like what I was like, like one
Speaker 5: of those like fathers. What where I'm like, He's like,
Speaker 5: shut the fuck up.
Speaker 4: Do you think these fucking people would give you more
Speaker 4: money if you were playing better?
Speaker 5: You think they give a fuck about you when you're done?
Speaker 5: And and it was like, oh my god, Like I
Speaker 5: had never.
Speaker 4: Thought of that. Like it was like I felt so bad.
Speaker 5: For not doing my job and not living up to
Speaker 5: my contract and things like that, and it's like they
Speaker 5: don't give a fuck about you if you're overperforming that contract.
Speaker 5: And it's really hard to kind of come to terms
Speaker 5: with that when you're playing, because you're all about the
Speaker 5: team and you want to make the the GM proud
Speaker 5: of that signed you, and you want to make your
Speaker 5: parents proud, and you're agent proud. It's like, in the end, man,
Speaker 5: when you're done, nobody knows a fuck about you.
Speaker 1: You have read up cards is your commodity and I
Speaker 1: and I hate like telling that to guys.
Speaker 5: And I'll like, we interview guys and you know, you
Speaker 5: have beers to them after you run into them, and
Speaker 5: you don't want to be the guy that's like, hey, man,
Speaker 5: like at the end, man, it's gonna be tough, but
Speaker 5: you also want to tell them, like, just get every
Speaker 5: single dollar you can right now and don't feel bad
Speaker 5: about any part of it.
Speaker 4: So I don't really know how I got into that.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's just you need be a spokesman for d
Speaker 2: from me. You need to be a spokes before it
Speaker 2: because you can like we need to make hats and
Speaker 2: make hockey cool again.
Speaker 4: Like you guys, it's a cool sport. You got to
Speaker 4: go to a.
Speaker 2: Person sport, Dude. It's literally I think I've said this
Speaker 2: on the podcast before. If not, I've said it in
Speaker 2: the real world, but it's my favorite sport to watch
Speaker 2: over football.
Speaker 4: But you were at the You were one of the guys, right, Yeah,
Speaker 4: you guys trigger out out of the fish and yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Was the guy choking out of the fish. I was
Speaker 2: gonna say, hey, he just used yeah, you guys that
Speaker 2: play that all smoke.
Speaker 4: You're like one of the guys, are in the corner.
Speaker 4: You're at the game, busting in the boys tomorrow, busting
Speaker 4: over at the Whitney party, chass and then going to
Speaker 4: the game.
Speaker 2: Where are you staying at?
Speaker 4: Were you Joseph? A great hotel?
Speaker 2: Hotel solid, that's so we stay before games with the Joseph.
Speaker 4: They make you, guys.
Speaker 5: That's like Russia. They call it the Basa. So you
Speaker 5: got to go to a hotel the night before your game. Yeah,
Speaker 5: it's brutal, but they make you do that in the NFL.
Speaker 5: Make you do the NFL because they do like a
Speaker 5: bed check at ten thirty, Oh my gous. They know
Speaker 5: you guys are lunatics. You guys would be out in
Speaker 5: a boat ripping it up.
Speaker 4: No doubt. I think it's because it's like you're getting
Speaker 4: a knock on your door no matter what.
Speaker 2: Yeah, every night at ten thirty, and they in like duze.
Speaker 1: Some dudes will finagle it. They'll they'll pay the guy
Speaker 1: who checks the door. And yeah, yeah, you know, corrupt
Speaker 1: world in there.
Speaker 2: But speaking of Russia, speaking of Russia, since it's a
Speaker 2: hot topic right.
Speaker 4: Now, Yeah, I was your time in Russia interesting to
Speaker 4: see what was it? Did you see this coming? What's
Speaker 4: going on in the world right now?
Speaker 5: I was there in twenty fourteen when they went into Crimea.
Speaker 5: I played with the guy who played in Dunbas, Ukraine.
Speaker 5: They had a great KHL team and the.
Speaker 4: Rink was blown up and like, and I'm just stand
Speaker 4: for Continental Hockey League, which I don't really know what
Speaker 4: that has to do with Russia to see.
Speaker 2: Okay to the k alleged, Oh.
Speaker 4: They don't get so in Russia. When you're the captain,
Speaker 4: you don't have a sea.
Speaker 5: On your sure you're a k That kind of goes
Speaker 5: hard to make. So it is pretty it's a pretty
Speaker 5: good drip. I'm not gonna lie I fucking hate Russia,
Speaker 5: but I'm mean you're using the word it's yeah, Well
Speaker 5: I don't have a tint advisor to wear it, which
Speaker 5: is different. So Russia was great. I was in Soci,
Speaker 5: which they called the San Diego of Russia, which always
Speaker 5: cracked me up what they say, because it doesn't really
Speaker 5: snow there. They had the Olympics there in twenty fourteen.
Speaker 5: I lived in uh the old like athletes Village, which
Speaker 5: was a ghost town. It was so bizarre. It's like
Speaker 5: one of you hear about like the Olympics. Now they
Speaker 5: go to cities and then when they leave there's just nothing.
Speaker 5: It was like this Olympic village that was just done
Speaker 5: ghost towns. They put us up there. See it is
Speaker 5: pretty nice looking.
Speaker 2: And uh, the San Diego of Russia. And so I
Speaker 2: was on a billboard there when I was there.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, it's definitely on a billboard and backwards letter.
Speaker 5: I don't even know they're they're they're alphabets different, but
Speaker 5: I remember sweet a driver.
Speaker 4: So all the imports hang out.
Speaker 5: Every team in the KHL was allowed five imports, so
Speaker 5: just non Russians. There was a Canadian, a finn, a Swede,
Speaker 5: a US guy myself, and there was just say the
Speaker 5: sex made a check goalie and it sounds like the
Speaker 5: joke was.
Speaker 4: Going to tell it was a crazy. Yeah, that was
Speaker 4: a joke.
Speaker 1: So we fucking get will so heartbeat Gilling boys.
Speaker 4: Driver because you can't drive over there. And I joined
Speaker 4: they I actually did what you did.
Speaker 5: I kind of I He's like, I'm not going to
Speaker 5: the KSHL until after training camp. Training camp, you leave
Speaker 5: July first to the KHL. So Midsummer. All the guys
Speaker 5: in the NHL, I'm not. I'm not going until after camp.
Speaker 5: So I actually didn't sign till middle of October. And
Speaker 5: I get over there and there's a driver. There's a
Speaker 5: driver for all the imports. You can't drive over there.
Speaker 5: And why can't you drive over there because it's Russia,
Speaker 5: like they'll fucking take you.
Speaker 4: And it's just you.
Speaker 5: Know, there's no chance an import can drive over there.
Speaker 5: Every team has a driver for the imports. And so
Speaker 5: this guy's driving. This guy's driving us to the second day,
Speaker 5: and all of a sudden, the cops are behind this.
Speaker 5: I'm like, oh fucked, and the cops we get pulled over.
Speaker 5: The guy pulls over Vadim. I'll never forget. I have
Speaker 5: a picture. I'm in the hawked up with Vadim. He's
Speaker 5: my boy. Haven't spoken to him since I left.
Speaker 4: So the cap walks up to the window and he
Speaker 4: puts down the window like this far and Vadim just
Speaker 4: takes a bunch of cash, bunch of rubles and just
Speaker 4: hands it out the window and like marbles the cash
Speaker 4: and hands it to the cop and he says, by
Speaker 4: blah blah blah. It leaves get the fuck out of here, dude.
Speaker 5: And the best part about that story was when I
Speaker 5: had been on the Penguins eight years before that, if
Speaker 5: getting Malcolm Superstar Hall of Fame, one of the best
Speaker 5: players of all time.
Speaker 4: He came over.
Speaker 5: It was his rookie years living a surge gone Shar
Speaker 5: Gonshar was a great defenseman, unbelievable player, and he was
Speaker 5: a Russian as well. So Malcolm lived with him his
Speaker 5: rookie year and he didn't have a license and he
Speaker 5: got pulled over driving a car a Porsche, had no
Speaker 5: business driving, and he doesn't know he's from Russia. Magneta
Speaker 5: Gorsk and the coup pulled him over and he's put
Speaker 5: on the window.
Speaker 4: You hain't a bunch of money And the cops like,
Speaker 4: what of the.
Speaker 6: F Russia bro and the Pittsburgh pliast and went down there.
Speaker 4: They don't know. It's just a different life. But I'll
Speaker 4: say this as miserable as I was.
Speaker 5: My favorite memory of that of my time in Russia
Speaker 5: too is uh it was when I'm a Pats fan
Speaker 5: being from Boston area.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been a real tough run.
Speaker 5: I uh I I had sling, I had a sling
Speaker 5: box just departed.
Speaker 4: I mean, we got to go somewhere. I got here,
Speaker 4: we were going. We're winners, so yeah, we take it.
Speaker 4: I'm on the Pats of the South though, uh so,
Speaker 4: so I see my sling box.
Speaker 5: I recorded the Pats Seattle Super Bowl, and I and
Speaker 5: I because I knew so I didn't I shut off
Speaker 5: the game. It would have been like three in the morning.
Speaker 5: I went to practice. I had my phone off, and
Speaker 5: I knew nobody at the game would have like Russians
Speaker 5: don't know football, I don't know, so nobody said a word.
Speaker 5: I went home and I watched the game twelve hours later,
Speaker 5: had no clue and got to like see the Butler
Speaker 5: interception like it was live to me. But the reason
Speaker 5: I just thought of that because I hated being in Russia.
Speaker 5: It was miserable, you know, it was just tough. It
Speaker 5: was this you can't talk to anyone. And and now
Speaker 5: I look back on it, and as miserable as I was,
Speaker 5: I'm like so happy I did it because it was
Speaker 5: you know, it was an experience and I got to
Speaker 5: go through some stuff that probably I didn't love at
Speaker 5: the time, and in the end, I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 5: I'm really happy I did it.
Speaker 4: And I went over there and I had a couple buddies.
Speaker 5: Who'd been there and left, and they'd be like, there's
Speaker 5: no chance you're gonna last.
Speaker 4: You're so bougie, you bitch, You're not gonna make it
Speaker 4: a week.
Speaker 5: And I was like, I'm not fucking leaving this place,
Speaker 5: and like we had double sessions some days and I
Speaker 5: got it out.
Speaker 4: So that's what I'm proud about.
Speaker 2: When you when you go out in town, they're like,
Speaker 2: do you have to have like a someone walk you
Speaker 2: or escort you around?
Speaker 4: It wasn't like going out like there. It was weird
Speaker 4: San Diego.
Speaker 5: Yeah, when they say San Diego or Russia, they might
Speaker 5: as well say, like, uh, Sacramento of Russia.
Speaker 4: It's terrible. That's right. It's a Sacramento and you were
Speaker 4: born as Sacramento. Sorry to hear that. Were you scared
Speaker 4: to go out all the time? And rush? We didn't
Speaker 4: really go out, Honest to god, we did not go out.
Speaker 1: But when you found yourself out, were you kind of like, yo,
Speaker 1: I didn't.
Speaker 4: I never we would.
Speaker 5: The imports would have drinks in the in our dorm
Speaker 5: and just hang out. And one guy at his wife
Speaker 5: there and we were kind of like our own family
Speaker 5: within the team.
Speaker 4: One of your well, actually, what's up. I FaceTime my
Speaker 4: girl and got a going on that. I mean, you
Speaker 4: get down.
Speaker 5: They might have blocked it in Russia at that point,
Speaker 5: but I didn't go out. I didn't do anything. And
Speaker 5: they they had curfews too. It's like the basa, That's
Speaker 5: what I'm saying. There was like there wasn't a chance
Speaker 5: to go out before games on the road. You couldn't
Speaker 5: do anything. I had a buddy who played in Moscow
Speaker 5: who loved it. I just didn't have the same experience. Yeah,
Speaker 5: Biz came on.
Speaker 1: I was talking about AK forty seven's bags of money
Speaker 1: being left at the locker, Like, did you have any
Speaker 1: experiences with the.
Speaker 5: I had a guy, Uh, we had this kid, what
Speaker 5: was his name, michel Anissen, and we played in a
Speaker 5: game one time, and all of a sudden, like after
Speaker 5: the game, I look over and he had like a
Speaker 5: buddy come in the room, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 5: he's got a handgun. He's waving around his buddy bottom
Speaker 5: my handgun. I'm like, what the fuck. He's like brand new,
Speaker 5: brand new. I was like, holy shit. But in terms
Speaker 5: of the cash they would get direct to pause it.
Speaker 5: I had like an Italian bank within Russia. It was
Speaker 5: kind of weird. I remember, actually I told my my wife.
Speaker 5: Now she wasn't at the time. I got home and
Speaker 5: had all this money in this Russian Italian bank account,
Speaker 5: and I know clue how to get at home. I'm like,
Speaker 5: how the fuck am I gonna get this money home? Like,
Speaker 5: there's Italian, there's Russian. I don't know what I'm doing.
Speaker 5: I'm so bad on the computer. Anyways, I said, if
Speaker 5: you can get this money back to me, I'll get
Speaker 5: you any bag you want. Like that night it was in.
Speaker 4: My Bank of America account. I'm like, okay, we're going
Speaker 4: shopping tomorrows. Shit. I had no clue how to get home.
Speaker 5: I actually heard a great story before the CAGEL was formed.
Speaker 5: It was called the Russian Super League, when it was
Speaker 5: really no rules, completely off the wall. There was a
Speaker 5: goalie who had like four hundred grand they'd pay American
Speaker 5: cash over there too. Back then, he had four hundred
Speaker 5: thousand dollars American cash, and he had no clue how
Speaker 5: to get it home without dealing with the taxes.
Speaker 4: He's looking to just get this money home? What do
Speaker 4: I do?
Speaker 5: So he cut his pads, He cut into the pads
Speaker 5: and he put all the cash into each pad, two
Speaker 5: hundred grand in each pad, and he sewed it back up,
Speaker 5: and then he checked his equipment going so on the
Speaker 5: flight home, he has no idea, like he's like, when
Speaker 5: I get back there, like if this equipments there, like
Speaker 5: the money night Penn.
Speaker 4: And he got home, he got back, the equipment.
Speaker 5: Came, you know, across the whatever it called, and he
Speaker 5: looked and he's like, oh my god, it's back, and
Speaker 5: he got all.
Speaker 4: The money home that way. It's yeah, it's a panic.
Speaker 4: That was when it was like old school allego stuff.
Speaker 2: Dude, that's sucking hardcore.
Speaker 4: That's just crazy.
Speaker 2: Can you tell us about the Russian gas and the vitamins?
Speaker 5: The Russian gas is nuts. I played a game gas,
Speaker 5: so Russian gases. I remember here in business before before
Speaker 5: the game was Regret station.
Speaker 1: I love that he said. He said, my man was
Speaker 1: on some vitamins one time. I was like, do we
Speaker 1: know what kind of vitamins they were? He's like, oh,
Speaker 1: you'll have to ask what. No, So here we are.
Speaker 2: So I was playing and see, let's do this and
Speaker 2: now I have.
Speaker 4: The shoke, so listen to my shoke. So the guy guy.
Speaker 5: That one just keeps living and I love it, dude,
Speaker 5: So I don't forget stuff. So the guys that I
Speaker 5: was playing with, the Russian guys before the game, like
Speaker 5: after warm ups, I'm talking like ten minutes for a
Speaker 5: puck drop, they'd go in and all of them would
Speaker 5: be on an IV and I'm like, what is going on?
Speaker 4: What is that? And the guys that you try, you try,
Speaker 4: you try, you try, you feel strong, you feel strong.
Speaker 4: I was like, I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 5: And finally we played the game Dynamo Moscow. There's like
Speaker 5: CSK Moscow, there's Dynamo Moscow, the two big teams there,
Speaker 5: and the team was good and I was like, all right,
Speaker 5: fuck this like this is my probably my last year
Speaker 5: playing hockey. And I went in and after warms, I
Speaker 5: got this IV and I got on the ice.
Speaker 4: I was like, oh my god, I am flying. I'm talking,
Speaker 4: I'm talking. I'm like I'm gonna play in the NHL again.
Speaker 4: And I was like this isn't over, this isn't over.
Speaker 4: I'm calling my agent. I'm like, call all these teams.
Speaker 4: I'm back.
Speaker 5: Our season ends in March. Bring me in for the playoffs.
Speaker 5: I feel them as I'm high stepping out there. A
Speaker 5: couple assists, and then the game ended. The next day
Speaker 5: we had practice and I was like, wait.
Speaker 4: A minute, I suck again. What the hell was that?
Speaker 4: And it was I don't know what was in it?
Speaker 5: And some teams actually had like you put the gas
Speaker 5: mask on and.
Speaker 4: You're like, I don't know what you were inhaling.
Speaker 5: And some teams had the ivs, but it was one
Speaker 5: hundred percent something because I was buzzing out there.
Speaker 4: You and ale I didn't.
Speaker 5: I did the IV. I never did the gas. I
Speaker 5: never did the Russian gas. But my gas was an IV.
Speaker 5: I considered it all the same thing.
Speaker 4: It's basically performance enhancing something from Russian.
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Speaker 4: So yeah it was great though, something from Russia.
Speaker 2: So let's quit in Tarantino, this dudelet's fucking jump all
Speaker 2: the way back to you getting kicked out of your
Speaker 2: billet family house.
Speaker 4: Yeah, sorry, it doesn't even don't don't do it.
Speaker 2: Hey, if it's stupid, make it a little more for.
Speaker 4: The ashy I I I my actually.
Speaker 2: Uh dressed that dressed at the friend of.
Speaker 4: Mine Brian Foley. His older brother Pat was a really
Speaker 4: really good player.
Speaker 5: He's now a Boston cop. So he went out to
Speaker 5: this national program a couple years for me. He got
Speaker 5: this great great No, no, he's a jit. He's actually
Speaker 5: like listening to the fucking microphone when he's not working,
Speaker 5: looking to hop into scenes that they might just help.
Speaker 4: An animal super coff ye, super cough.
Speaker 5: This whole family they are all super car from Super
Speaker 5: Chipper exactly one of them secret service there animals. So
Speaker 5: I went to this bill family, who was great, Like,
Speaker 5: this kid's like great, my parents want me.
Speaker 2: To THEI as a sixteen and when do you guys
Speaker 2: usually go into billet families fifteen sixteen seventeen.
Speaker 5: I think I was turning seventeen that season. My parents
Speaker 5: didn't want me to go. They want me to stay
Speaker 5: at the high school. I was at graduate and I
Speaker 5: was like, oh, it's whatever.
Speaker 2: I had to do it now, and I hate, I
Speaker 2: hate fucking doing this again. But like when you play hockey,
Speaker 2: unless you're like in Minnesota, you kind of have to
Speaker 2: play like travel hockey, right, You can't Massa kids just
Speaker 2: play high school hoy.
Speaker 5: Massachusetts used to be like Minnesota. They were the only
Speaker 5: two that you could play high school hockey.
Speaker 2: And get a scholarship or get in the NHL.
Speaker 5: And it's changed where Massachusetts now, if you're that good,
Speaker 5: you kind of have to go. Yeah, and even Minnesota
Speaker 5: like you kind of it's high school hockey's great, but
Speaker 5: it's also it's so watered down, like the whole country
Speaker 5: in terms of hockey. But to get the chance to
Speaker 5: go to play for USA National Development Program was huge.
Speaker 5: So I go out and it's all about, like my
Speaker 5: parents like we gotta get good billets. We got to
Speaker 5: get good billets, and all right, well we met this great
Speaker 5: people that Pat Folly.
Speaker 4: Had been with the Shays.
Speaker 5: I go out there and like he's a really nice,
Speaker 5: beautiful house in ann Arbor, and like I got in trouble.
Speaker 2: The USHL team. Is that the Junior USA team? Now
Speaker 2: they're in Plymouth, Michigan. They were in ann Arbor, Yeah,
Speaker 2: and uh I went to a game.
Speaker 5: I went to a game yeah actuallymouth Yeah yeah, in Plymouth, Michigan.
Speaker 5: You dummy figure it out.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 5: Basically though, I I my parents sent me out there
Speaker 5: and they got me this old uh Ford X four
Speaker 5: like for a car out there. We drove it out there.
Speaker 5: I got the car and I crashed it. I crashed
Speaker 5: it into my buddies basketball hoop at his billet family's house.
Speaker 5: So I was like, all right, well, I'm just gonna
Speaker 5: say that this car got hit at.
Speaker 4: The movie theater because I'm not going to admit that
Speaker 4: I did anything. You know, when you're young and and
Speaker 4: sure should.
Speaker 5: I got caught in the lie because my dad's like,
Speaker 5: all right, well, let's call the movie theater. I'm sure
Speaker 5: they have cameras outside. Because he knew I was lying,
Speaker 5: I'm like, ah, fucked. So I admitted to him that
Speaker 5: I crashed it into a you know, a basketball hoop.
Speaker 5: He's like, go tell your family I'm like, it's not
Speaker 5: even their car. Well, I don't have to tell them.
Speaker 5: He's like, go tell them, Go tell them. So I
Speaker 5: went and told them. They acted all disappointed, like so upset.
Speaker 5: It's like, tell even you're a fucking car. My dad
Speaker 5: made me tell you, why do you even care?
Speaker 4: Whatever? So they were kind of on edge. The little
Speaker 4: fucking sixteen seventeen to you, yes, like what do you care?
Speaker 5: So whatever, they're on edge. And then we had a
Speaker 5: book report. We had a book report to do Fahrenheit
Speaker 5: four fifty one. If any of you guys have read
Speaker 5: that book. I was supposed to read it and I didn't,
Speaker 5: And so I called my billet mom was right before Thanksgiving.
Speaker 5: I said, hey, missus shay uh, I just talked to
Speaker 5: my teacher and I read the book Faraonheit four fifty one.
Speaker 4: I don't really get it.
Speaker 5: And she told me if I rent the movie, it'll
Speaker 5: really help me understand it for this book report I
Speaker 5: have to do. She's like, oh, okay, can you go
Speaker 5: rempt me? I said, can you go rent me the
Speaker 5: movie because I could go to practice. She's like yeah, sure. Well, meanwhile,
Speaker 5: this lunatic she called the teacher She's like, did you ask.
Speaker 4: Ryan, my n not even my son, my billet son.
Speaker 5: Did you tell Ryan to read watched the movie because
Speaker 5: he didn't get the book. And she's like, no, what
Speaker 5: are you talking about. So we go on the road.
Speaker 5: We go to Green Bay. We were playing in Green Bay,
Speaker 5: right across from Lambeau Stadium. And Thanksgiving morning, I wake up.
Speaker 5: I got a call from the coach, Mike Eves, and
Speaker 5: he said come down to my room. And I was
Speaker 5: like what, and he's like, all your stuff's packed up
Speaker 5: at the office.
Speaker 4: You're kicked out of your Billets family house.
Speaker 5: Apparently me lying about like not reading this book and
Speaker 5: he need see the movie was like their final straw
Speaker 5: to like get me kicked out of house.
Speaker 4: So they booted me out. This shit packed all my
Speaker 4: shit up. They had my toothpaste, with my sweatshirts, they
Speaker 4: had like my shoes with like different old hockey year
Speaker 4: and I was done. I had to sleep one night.
Speaker 5: I was in my car at Pioneer High School in
Speaker 5: Arbor and then like the assistant coach took me in.
Speaker 4: But in the end it ended up working out great.
Speaker 5: I met these amazing people, Dave and Dotty Lineball, They
Speaker 5: were about seventy years old, nicest people in the world.
Speaker 4: They took me in.
Speaker 5: They used to make me like sandwiches and shit at night.
Speaker 5: They were great, So it's great. I ended up leaving
Speaker 5: the Shadas.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, seventy years old. Oh didn't give you that
Speaker 4: sh I did shase son. I used to send them
Speaker 4: like emails and stuff that your parents sock. I was
Speaker 4: like all over them. But it was funny because my
Speaker 4: good friend had a great experience with them. But they
Speaker 4: did not like me.
Speaker 2: They didn't like a pioneer high school. Is that where
Speaker 2: you went to high school? That's my brother went to
Speaker 2: No shit, Yeah, it's right across the street from uh.
Speaker 4: Brother was a good hockey play, really good hockey player,
Speaker 4: and my dad kid they played at Corpus Christie. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Oh so he was living in an arbor.
Speaker 2: He was living in an arbor when I went up
Speaker 2: to Michigan. He was like sixteen, and so my dad
Speaker 2: and him went up to ann arbor to be around
Speaker 2: better hockey and they could see you and they could
Speaker 2: see me. That wasn't by my choice, but that's what
Speaker 2: they wanted to do. And they lived like in the
Speaker 2: houses like right across the street from Pioneer. Yeah, so
Speaker 2: a cruiser over there, catch a free meal. And my
Speaker 2: brother was I was a solid hockey player, he was
Speaker 2: more of a grinder than he was like skilled.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I remember going to Pigh High and like,
Speaker 4: you know, they so I came from a private school
Speaker 4: in massachusettt Fay Academy, shout out to Tigers, and there
Speaker 4: was like ninety five kids in my grade and I
Speaker 4: went to Pioneer High and there was like nine hundred. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I think it was.
Speaker 5: Thirty six hundred kids, Like you know, thirty eight hundred
Speaker 5: kids in the school.
Speaker 4: So it was eye opening for me.
Speaker 5: But I remember, like, naturally, you got kids from all
Speaker 5: over the country coming the best seventeen eighteen year old
Speaker 5: hockey players in the country, and the girls in high
Speaker 5: school are kind of like, all right, we're into these guys.
Speaker 5: So these dudes who grew up with these girls their
Speaker 5: whole life, they're like fuck you now. Granted, now, the
Speaker 5: girls like me, I was a complete nerd with big ears,
Speaker 5: but all these other kids were like trying to fight
Speaker 5: guys on my team because all of a sudden, the
Speaker 5: girls they knew their whole life, were going to them.
Speaker 5: It was a great show I got to witness. But
Speaker 5: Pioneer High it was like you had to go and
Speaker 5: then here On High School is also in an haarbur
Speaker 5: Guys had to go through like metal metal detectors to
Speaker 5: get into that school. I'm like, what am I exactly now?
Speaker 5: Since they're they ended up leaving here On guys could
Speaker 5: only go to Pioneer before they went to Plymouth. But
Speaker 5: that's my NDDP story.
Speaker 2: So as you get drafted right out of high school.
Speaker 4: No, I played one year. It changed.
Speaker 5: It used to be, uh, if you went to college,
Speaker 5: the draft would get delayed year. Yah, So I get
Speaker 5: drafted as my freshman year of college. Now it's the
Speaker 5: same for everyone. So you do get drafted after she
Speaker 5: would you go to college? Be you Boston University? Yeah,
Speaker 5: it's kind of where I dreamed of going when I
Speaker 5: was growing ups.
Speaker 2: Why don't you offer for Michigan?
Speaker 4: I could have gone anywhere I could have got.
Speaker 5: I wanted to go back home, Okay, guy, I know
Speaker 5: right Ill, Yeah, I know, stut, I could have gone
Speaker 5: anywhere five Star. I actually, looking back, I would have
Speaker 5: liked to go I love BU had great experiences, but
Speaker 5: I would have liked to go to a school that
Speaker 5: b U's campus is just downtown Boston. There's no football
Speaker 5: team like I would have probably if I could do
Speaker 5: it again, maybe experience, uh, you know, the entire college experience.
Speaker 4: I didn't really get that. It's a little different. Yeah,
Speaker 4: Michigan was awesome. Dude, the hockey boys there, That's one thing.
Speaker 2: I don't know what your experience was like, but whenever
Speaker 2: I've been around hockey people, especially in college, it just
Speaker 2: seems like the closest knit group of dudes. Yeah, everyone
Speaker 2: fucks around with each other, hangs out. There was a
Speaker 2: I don't even know if this is like even appropriate
Speaker 2: for this podcast, but there was a spring semester the
Speaker 2: hockey boys decided that they're not sleeping with a girl
Speaker 2: by themselves, like they had have one of their boys with.
Speaker 4: Them, like a fucking I'm gonna start like twitching. I
Speaker 4: know that. Shit. The times have changed. But yeah, there
Speaker 4: was a lot of good times with hockey teams.
Speaker 2: There's guys too, and oh I.
Speaker 4: Never did that. I never did that regularly singular sex.
Speaker 4: There was no gross yeah, zero group sex in the
Speaker 4: experience I had at college.
Speaker 1: Hey, we saw that. We looked up the Russian Gas.
Speaker 1: Now did they not have Do they not have tot
Speaker 1: all in the NHL? Oh, they have to all in
Speaker 1: the NHL.
Speaker 4: This was funny. We were just in Vegas for the
Speaker 4: Chickles Cup.
Speaker 5: We started a street hockey tournament that we were doing
Speaker 5: next ones in Buffalo July twenty second weekend. If you're
Speaker 5: into street hockey, checking out their birthday and oh shout
Speaker 5: out Taylor and I actually in Vegas because we were
Speaker 5: going at it every day, right, So every morning I
Speaker 5: would have this ivy doctor come to my room and
Speaker 5: I would get total every single day.
Speaker 4: It's the greatest drug in the world. Do you fe
Speaker 4: ship down?
Speaker 5: Tortle gives all pain is gone. What I had was
Speaker 5: making me fast and strong and like with it. Tortle
Speaker 5: just like shuts down pain. I was buzzing. That was
Speaker 5: not tortal.
Speaker 4: I was on. I've taken tortle. Every guy in the
Speaker 4: Stanley Cup playoffs from the third game of the first
Speaker 4: round on is taking tourtle.
Speaker 2: Oh bro, I take turtle literally for practice.
Speaker 1: No, ship really only on Wednesdays sometimes, really, I promise I.
Speaker 5: Take it for practice only on Wednesdays sometimes, So you
Speaker 5: have doctors that will give it to you for practice
Speaker 5: because you can't change it where it's like it's not
Speaker 5: easy to.
Speaker 2: It depends, like you know you you row belbos.
Speaker 4: Are you on it for every game?
Speaker 2: I am, But towards the end the season, I got
Speaker 2: off of it a little bit because it makes me
Speaker 2: like too relaxed.
Speaker 4: Really, you can play without tortle.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I started taking that clothing ac instead something else. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but that clothing as like not like a tourtolet and
Speaker 2: people your organs are gonna shut down like kind of ship.
Speaker 1: That's why I said rarely, like it wasn't something I did,
Speaker 1: like if I'm like actually going through like something.
Speaker 2: There was a couple of times, a couple of times
Speaker 2: during camp, like just for regular practice because like my
Speaker 2: knee was hurting or something, right, I would go into the.
Speaker 4: Tour it all. So who was that that the mephiss
Speaker 4: in Jersey we were selling. I think I'm gonna need that.
Speaker 4: I need that rocking that right now. Oh dude, I
Speaker 4: would wear the fuck out of that. Yeah, that's one
Speaker 4: of our probably wait till.
Speaker 2: This whole w W three things over, I'm probably not
Speaker 2: gonna rep that they.
Speaker 4: Make our jerseys Mensley Hockey. They make great mensig sweaters.
Speaker 4: They make great jersey. We have a bunch of different styles,
Speaker 4: different jokes we've had on the pod. We have all these.
Speaker 5: Different jerseys, and that's a good one. I've actually like,
Speaker 5: haven't seen that in a while. I might start rocking that,
Speaker 5: although actually not right now.
Speaker 4: They're in Ukraine. Have you seen the movie Goon?
Speaker 2: Yes, Doug the Thug, glad dude, would that's a jersey I.
Speaker 4: Would wear all day every day. Good one. There's Goon too.
Speaker 2: I think if the one of the worst movies I've
Speaker 2: ever seen. Goon the original is the most inspirational sports
Speaker 2: movie movie I've ever.
Speaker 4: Seen in my life.
Speaker 2: You think, oh, dude, better than Remember the Titans or
Speaker 2: Friday Night like all that miracle.
Speaker 4: No, dude, Goon you dying on this incredible? No, I
Speaker 4: love it. I know you love it. But the best
Speaker 4: inspirational sports movie all.
Speaker 2: When when uh never in Duarts Glatt and Ross the
Speaker 2: Boss Ray are sitting in the box and he goes,
Speaker 2: he takes his stick and he goes, you're ready, kid,
Speaker 2: and Douglas Doug goes, yes, thanks for asking, and they
Speaker 2: square up in the center ice that fight scene.
Speaker 4: It's nothing you would ever be a part of No
Speaker 4: Never I.
Speaker 5: I played with George la Rock, who is one of
Speaker 5: the toughest guys. Yeah, black dude, right, lefty killer. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and he there's a clip of him like before he
Speaker 5: scares off with somebody you know at the face off
Speaker 5: there like you want to go, Yeah, let's go, and
Speaker 5: then Georgie says.
Speaker 4: Good luck man.
Speaker 5: Like it's like that's different now, like that doesn't really
Speaker 5: happen where it used to just be, yeah, right after
Speaker 5: the fight, we're good buddies, but I'm gonna try to
Speaker 5: kill you.
Speaker 2: Why does that happen? Like who decides when you're gonna fight?
Speaker 2: Why you're gonna fight?
Speaker 4: And so there used to be so that was part
Speaker 4: of it.
Speaker 5: Like when I was coming up, like the goons, they
Speaker 5: would just they knew they were fighting each other for
Speaker 5: no reason other than we're gonna fight.
Speaker 4: Like it did nothing.
Speaker 5: And so I kind of agree with like getting rid
Speaker 5: of these stage fights.
Speaker 4: Now, fights pretty much happen if you hit.
Speaker 5: Somebody from behind, if you get your buddy, you know,
Speaker 5: you hit a guy and your team dirty.
Speaker 4: If you run the goalie like something, what's run the
Speaker 4: goalie meme?
Speaker 5: A you can't really hit the goalie. Like if somebody
Speaker 5: hits the goalie, like, game on, if you touch the goalie,
Speaker 5: it's over pretty much. Yeah, Like, especially if he's out
Speaker 5: of his crease and you hit him, like that's usually
Speaker 5: enough to start byight now exactly pretty much.
Speaker 2: Yeah again, he's hit quarterback. But even though you hit
Speaker 2: the quarterback.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, but you know it used to be before
Speaker 5: first shift of the game. Two guys have no problem
Speaker 5: with each other, and the game hasn't even started. They're
Speaker 5: squaring off. They've got That's really what the game's gotten
Speaker 5: rid of. That's one thing that's not that bad they
Speaker 5: get away from because like those guys, they didn't even
Speaker 5: want to be fighting each other half the time.
Speaker 2: So there's no situation where it's like, hey it's three
Speaker 2: to one, we need a spark.
Speaker 5: No, that's so that's still that happens way less, but
Speaker 5: that still would be a reason if you're down. But
Speaker 5: they're on with like the one minute of the game,
Speaker 5: score zero zero, the two toughest guys are gonna fight.
Speaker 5: And both of the guys for the most part, haven't
Speaker 5: slept pregame meal because they're so nervous the night before
Speaker 5: they know who they got to fight.
Speaker 4: It's like, yeah, they talk to these guys.
Speaker 5: These dudes battled in such anxiety to know like even
Speaker 5: though I know I'm tough, I know it can fight,
Speaker 5: I don't know what's gonna happen in this fight.
Speaker 2: And there's a documentary about that, right like Ice Guardians.
Speaker 2: That's great, Yeah, this is in that actually is he?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I watched it like four or five years.
Speaker 2: I don't remember a whole lot of it, but them
Speaker 2: talking about that was Biz. Biz was like one of
Speaker 2: those guys.
Speaker 4: Right, that's how bisms of living. Biz.
Speaker 2: I'm dude, Like in my mind, I'm like, I'm beating
Speaker 2: the guys.
Speaker 4: You bro.
Speaker 5: He's my height and like Jacks, he's pretty big compared
Speaker 5: to most human beings.
Speaker 4: You're nine feet tall.
Speaker 2: Could you teach me the nice tall joke? If you can,
Speaker 2: you teach me to skate and fight? How long would
Speaker 2: that teach you do either?
Speaker 4: I couldn't do. I couldn't. I couldn't teach you do either.
Speaker 5: So Biz, My first memory of Biz is uh, I
Speaker 5: went to Pittsburgh training camp and dude, he's not a
Speaker 5: big dude.
Speaker 4: Eight am, eight am. I'm so.
Speaker 5: The first there was four groups and the first group
Speaker 5: was on at eight am, and I walk in the
Speaker 5: rink and he's squaring off with his buddy. Like at
Speaker 5: the time, they were real good friends, this kid Dan Carcillo.
Speaker 5: Eight am, they're squaring off center ice, good friends and
Speaker 5: going toe to toe.
Speaker 4: I'm like Jesus Christ.
Speaker 5: But Biz almost made the Penguins when he's nineteen years
Speaker 5: old as a defenseman, and then he had some real
Speaker 5: off ice issues.
Speaker 4: He was a complete lunatic when he was younger. He's
Speaker 4: getting in.
Speaker 5: Trouble all the time, He'll tell you himself. And they
Speaker 5: sent him to the AHL, to the coast and finally
Speaker 5: they were like, all right, you're gonna be a Ford,
Speaker 5: you're gonna be on the fourth line, and you're gonna fight.
Speaker 5: And what he did that's pretty impressive, is like a
Speaker 5: lot of guys would just be like, no, I'm not
Speaker 5: I'm not a fourth line. I was defenseman, I'm not fighting.
Speaker 5: And Biz was like, whatever it takes to get the NHL,
Speaker 5: I don't care. And so he started fighting and he's
Speaker 5: learned to fight, and he did it, and he did
Speaker 5: it and he kept doing it, and he ended up
Speaker 5: being the guy who would like every game going into
Speaker 5: fight guys that. Yeah, he's compared to NHL fighters, he's
Speaker 5: a little small, little undersized, so he'd be fighting guys huge,
Speaker 5: bigger than him, and he'd be like, not wanting to
Speaker 5: fight him, but he'd just do it.
Speaker 4: So that's why he's an animal. And I got a buddy,
Speaker 4: what is he doing off the ice? He doing off
Speaker 4: the ice? I mean like old school chicklets bizz.
Speaker 5: You hear about his like sexcapades, you hear about his drinking,
Speaker 5: is drugging.
Speaker 4: He was a lunatic.
Speaker 2: He was definitely a pig rose kind of guy, Lula tech.
Speaker 4: But he's uh, he's he's cleaning up now, he's a businessman.
Speaker 4: He's got a girl. He's he's a smart guy.
Speaker 2: Dude, he is. He is a smart fucking dude.
Speaker 4: He's the dumbest smart person in the world.
Speaker 2: Like Texas of his bike, you reminds me of Will,
Speaker 2: but it reminds me of Will Is the other way.
Speaker 4: Will's no Will.
Speaker 2: Smart smart, but like business River motivated, knows what he's doing,
Speaker 2: strategy handles all this stuff. I feel like all the
Speaker 2: shots you've taken and we got to lift up.
Speaker 4: A little bit of why you said let me, let
Speaker 4: me pump you up after this, you can pump his
Speaker 4: tire first. What He walks away from HM and goes fu.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he uh no, will, I mean without Will,
Speaker 2: this podcast is going nowhere.
Speaker 4: So that's Bizz with our podcast. What the fuck are
Speaker 4: you just? Jul No, I just my brother gave me this.
Speaker 4: I'm like, fuck it, I'll bring it out any nicotines? Good?
Speaker 5: Hey, So Biz came on our podcast. He joined chick
Speaker 5: cloud to his h myself, an Ra and Grenelli and
Speaker 5: Biz came. And if it was still just us three
Speaker 5: without Biz, we'd have I don't know, twenty thousand people listening,
Speaker 5: which was cool. I thought I don't have the work
Speaker 5: ethic BIZ has. I was like, oh, I'm in for it.
Speaker 5: I made good money playing. But Biz has made us
Speaker 5: what we are. And I feel like he's kind of
Speaker 5: like You're out there like panicking about the game the
Speaker 5: next day and Aaron Donald and he's like making business calls.
Speaker 2: And never get up a sect him. But yeah, help
Speaker 2: he retires, please retiring.
Speaker 4: Who's the toughest guy you face?
Speaker 2: Fucking Chandler Jones ate my lunch this year?
Speaker 4: Really? Oh yeah?
Speaker 2: He sh up for sure?
Speaker 4: If you give up one sack. Is that like a bad,
Speaker 4: bad game? No way.
Speaker 2: I give up two sacks in that game and a
Speaker 2: lot of hits and a lot of pressures. But it
Speaker 2: was the first game with the dude. There was the
Speaker 2: first game coming off, like my knee and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: I think if we went first game, first game coming off,
Speaker 2: probably wasn't ready to do it.
Speaker 5: So when you're going through a game, which I'm guessing
Speaker 5: you haven't had many like that, like third quarter of
Speaker 5: that game are You're like, fuck, I can't really stop
Speaker 5: him right now?
Speaker 2: That game that game, like halfway through after the first quirl,
Speaker 2: I was like, get me the fuck out of here.
Speaker 4: Oh what a panic.
Speaker 2: Can't wait for the ship to end, because I know
Speaker 2: Will's Washington with my wife and these boys. Was a
Speaker 2: couple of these dudes back here are big Titans fans.
Speaker 2: In my head, you're just thinking about all these guys,
Speaker 2: and you're like you think about your family, like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm just letting everybody in my life down right now.
Speaker 4: And then nuts.
Speaker 5: I remember, and I wasn't nearly the level player you
Speaker 5: were in the NHL, but I remember thinking like making
Speaker 5: a mistake, like oh my god, my parents, my friends,
Speaker 5: like it's do you have a time in your life
Speaker 5: where you're kind of like I almost look forward to retirement.
Speaker 5: I'm not trying to say that that's anytime, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean. I remember thinking that probably that.
Speaker 4: Whole entire game. Yeah, no shit, I'm fucking done with this.
Speaker 4: It's tough.
Speaker 2: It's tough, you know what I've realized, especially talking with somebody,
Speaker 2: The less I care, the better I play. If I
Speaker 2: start caring too much, then it's fucking So. I started
Speaker 2: getting real, Like I still would watch all my film
Speaker 2: and take my notes before games because we have a
Speaker 2: whole week, not like you guys, we were playing well
Speaker 2: every three days.
Speaker 4: Or something like that, so we would go.
Speaker 2: I was still focus on all that, but like I
Speaker 2: would purposely try to be more lax the way I
Speaker 2: talked to handled myself in the building and like to walking.
Speaker 2: I played a whole lot better, like the last backup
Speaker 2: of the season, like the first eight games shaky injury,
Speaker 2: Like it was kind of like this weird like kind
Speaker 2: of growing a little bit. But you're going through different too,
Speaker 2: Like hed like hurt, you hurt your bag, it's the hip,
Speaker 2: then it's the toe, then it's the it's all this crazy.
Speaker 4: My ankle ended my career and now it's like it's
Speaker 4: going from there to there to there, you know, and
Speaker 4: it's it's awful.
Speaker 2: Little backs, tight shoulder for someone.
Speaker 5: Honey, I need a massage. She's like, get a ferra gun.
Speaker 5: Get a gun. Gun's fucking awesome, though, until you.
Speaker 4: Have to do it to yourself, like backwards like this
Speaker 4: trying to get my lower back.
Speaker 2: Hey, that shit works, though, bro.
Speaker 1: I'll go outside, set in on the QL and then
Speaker 1: I'll lean over the bend like pop my little back.
Speaker 4: Great feeling when that crack happens. Ye, take an orgasm
Speaker 4: like Russian gas. I didn't know what this Russian gas
Speaker 4: ship is. Oh, we get some rushing gas in the NFL,
Speaker 4: will be a Derek Henry. I'll run for four thousand yards.
Speaker 2: That's what we need. How did you and Bizz like
Speaker 2: become boys the way you are?
Speaker 4: Like now we be? Is it just you two doing
Speaker 4: the pud? Now? No? So all right we're all admiral
Speaker 4: is uh? Him and I started together? Brian McGonagall, Oh,
Speaker 4: no fucking.
Speaker 5: Name names Brian McGonagall take a lap on morn and
Speaker 5: raised from Boston, Massachusetts. He named himself Rear Admiral when
Speaker 5: he started writing for barstools.
Speaker 4: Something to do with like, yeah, like I try to
Speaker 4: get it, I don't.
Speaker 5: When he tells storry whatever, I want to throw up,
Speaker 5: so I don't really listen.
Speaker 4: But he's Rear admiral, can.
Speaker 2: You like spark notes me one of his stories.
Speaker 5: No business And the other day if he had a squirter,
Speaker 5: I was like, I just threw up. But it's us
Speaker 5: three Grenelli's the producer and Bis and I.
Speaker 4: So we met. We were on the Wolkespear Scranton Penguins,
Speaker 4: the Pittsburgh Penguins AHL team, and then Bis got put
Speaker 4: on waivers.
Speaker 5: He got claimed by Phoenix. One of my best buddies
Speaker 5: played on at the time, Phoenix Cooties. Now it's Arizona.
Speaker 5: Stayed in touch a little bit, but then like it
Speaker 5: was it eight years later we both were kind of
Speaker 5: at the end of the career. We both got tryout
Speaker 5: offers with the Saint Louis Blues and you know, kind
Speaker 5: of like I think it probably happens in the NFL,
Speaker 5: where you get invites to camp, maybe you.
Speaker 1: Get like workouts and they'll fly you in and you'll
Speaker 1: be a few of you in a position group doing
Speaker 1: the same workouts.
Speaker 4: So hockey, you get a PTO they call it. So
Speaker 4: you basically go to camp on a tryout.
Speaker 5: You get to per deem every day and then at
Speaker 5: the end of the camp hopefully you get a contract,
Speaker 5: maybe an HL deal. So Bis and I we were
Speaker 5: the two PTO guys. We knew each other before. We're
Speaker 5: kind of loud guys. So in the room we were
Speaker 5: like biz callses. We were the jesters. Like the Blues
Speaker 5: loved us. All the guys loved us that you know,
Speaker 5: the GM he was like a big fan, but they
Speaker 5: didn't never room for us. Neither want us were very good.
Speaker 5: But in that time Bus and I spent a lot.
Speaker 5: We just hang out all day. We just after practice,
Speaker 5: we go back, we go to dinner together. We'd hang
Speaker 5: out and we were talking. We're like we should do
Speaker 5: something like when we're done, we should just like our
Speaker 5: other buddy Keith handle that. He said, like we should
Speaker 5: just go to the rink in the mornings we retire
Speaker 5: and just sit in the locker room, get dressed, but
Speaker 5: then knuckle on the ice and just tell stories and
Speaker 5: talk to each other like some sort of like yeah,
Speaker 5: just like still be in the game, but without having
Speaker 5: a play and so sure as shit, I retired before him.
Speaker 5: I put on Twitter, I want to start a podcast.
Speaker 4: What do you think? Tagged him.
Speaker 5: He was still playing. He said, dude, I can't do it. Yeah,
Speaker 5: you can't do it right till you're done. That's probably
Speaker 5: why you don't do it during the season.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2: And uh and talk is zone bird, like we've already
Speaker 2: talked about.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's different and when and he was in the AHL,
Speaker 5: so he's like, dude, I and he had just gotten
Speaker 5: signed by this HL team. He had nothing going and
Speaker 5: so he's like, I can't right now. He's like, all right, well,
Speaker 5: whenever you want, you're in. And then this your admiral
Speaker 5: who I had met like one time. He reached out
Speaker 5: and I was like, all right, I'll do it with you.
Speaker 5: And I didn't even like meet him for a beer first.
Speaker 4: Like, looking back, we probably probably wouldn't have started the
Speaker 4: pot had I met him for a beer first. I'm
Speaker 4: glad I didn't. But we, uh, we hit it off.
Speaker 4: We did like.
Speaker 5: Ten to fifteen episodes. Barstool picked us up and.
Speaker 4: Then see with Barstool while you guys were doing this.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but he was never paid. He was always just
Speaker 5: writing Bruin's blogs.
Speaker 2: And then he did a podcast.
Speaker 4: Use those we did the podcast and so he could
Speaker 4: put it on the blog, but it wasn't like under
Speaker 4: the barstool umbrella.
Speaker 5: And then Dave was like, all right, we want to
Speaker 5: bring you guys in and I want to say we did.
Speaker 5: I'd actually love to know these. I'm say fifty more episodes.
Speaker 5: And then Biz retired, came in, and then it was
Speaker 5: we took off. So we had gotten to kind of
Speaker 5: where I think the max of Mera and Grenelli would
Speaker 5: have gotten. I think, I don't I don't know, you know,
Speaker 5: I had no interest in doing anymore any more work.
Speaker 4: I was like, this is cool.
Speaker 5: One day a week we meet up and then Biz
Speaker 5: came and just get exploded.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so it was cool. It was great. But Biz
Speaker 4: is like he's one in a million, that guy.
Speaker 5: He's a funny, funny human being who's way smarter than
Speaker 5: people think.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he's like a hustler. You even hear it
Speaker 2: when you're on the freet smart, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I'll be like, I'll call you in five or you
Speaker 1: try to call him, he'll know rightway and be call
Speaker 1: you in five and the.
Speaker 5: Ability he's got his ability where when the call ends
Speaker 5: he hangs up like before, it's like he's always.
Speaker 4: The first to hang up.
Speaker 5: So now I'm like, as our calls kind of coming
Speaker 5: in and I try to beat him and I still can't.
Speaker 4: Like all of a sudden, he's hung up first. I'm like, you, motherfucker,
Speaker 4: I want to hang up on you before you hang
Speaker 4: up on me.
Speaker 5: It's a weird thing. He's got control of me. Over
Speaker 5: Do you think that's a smarter thing?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Probably, he seems like I'm not exactly a genius.
Speaker 2: Can No one's gonna fight you on that.
Speaker 4: You know one of us is gonna fight. I've been
Speaker 4: one to ask. You get drafted fifth overall?
Speaker 1: You sign like I want to say, you made like
Speaker 1: twenty four million dollars in the NHL. You get traded
Speaker 1: a couple of times, you end up in the miners.
Speaker 1: What made you want to continue to play? Like after
Speaker 1: your peak? Like you played on the Olympic team. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then you play in the miners, and then you
Speaker 1: even reminder and then you even.
Speaker 2: Travel overseason playing Russia?
Speaker 1: Like what why did you continue to play when you
Speaker 1: had already kind of like made your bag and made.
Speaker 2: Your living.
Speaker 5: Man, especially when you had to talk with your dad too. Now,
Speaker 5: at the time I was I went to Russia. I
Speaker 5: went to Russia when I was thirty one. I just
Speaker 5: wasn't done. I was I I didn't I didn't want
Speaker 5: to go to Russia. I wanted to be in the NHL.
Speaker 5: But I also wasn't ready to be like done playing And.
Speaker 4: It was because you were scared of the transition. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I actually was never that scared.
Speaker 5: I actually was never that scared of the transition because
Speaker 5: I had money and I knew I was set.
Speaker 4: But having known now, if I knew now what.
Speaker 5: I knew, like you know, I'm trying to say, yeah,
Speaker 5: I would have I would have been scared, but I
Speaker 5: really wasn't. But I I I now if I'm like,
Speaker 5: holy shit, like I actually I would have kind of
Speaker 5: been panic because I know so many guys now that
Speaker 5: don't they don't know what to do, and so I
Speaker 5: just more than anything, I still like really loved the game,
Speaker 5: and I I didn't love playing it as much because
Speaker 5: my ankle was so fucked up and I couldn't my
Speaker 5: brain was telling me to do things and the body
Speaker 5: just couldn't do it.
Speaker 4: It was so it was hard, but I wasn't ready
Speaker 4: to just give it up. It'd be a horrible feeling.
Speaker 4: It's the worst feeling in the world. I'll never forget.
Speaker 5: I'll never forget talking to coach in Edmonton, He's like,
Speaker 5: you gotta be here on this play.
Speaker 4: We're going over video. I was like, smitty, This guy,
Speaker 4: Steve Smith had a long career. I was like I
Speaker 4: I was telling myself like I was, I was there
Speaker 4: in my mind and then just and then you just
Speaker 4: can't do it.
Speaker 5: It's just like every athlete realizes it. But it was
Speaker 5: an awful feeling and it was tough. But when I
Speaker 5: kept playing and I went to Russia. Actually after Russia,
Speaker 5: I went to Sweden too. I still wasn't done.
Speaker 4: I was like, one more year and it was pretty
Speaker 4: pretty good money.
Speaker 2: I feel like Sweden's much nicer Russia.
Speaker 4: That's the other thing. And I was like Sweden, everyone
Speaker 4: speaks English. It's nice. Yeah. And I played two games
Speaker 4: and that's when it was real bad and I retired
Speaker 4: after the first period of the second game in Sweden.
Speaker 4: Game was mine.
Speaker 5: So the first the first game, the first game was
Speaker 5: on the road and I was like minus two. I
Speaker 5: was horrible. I'm like, Holy, you're on the goal. You're
Speaker 5: on the ice for two teams. The goals the team,
Speaker 5: you're two goals for the team you're playing against scores.
Speaker 4: You're on the ice for none of your team scores,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So if I'm on the
Speaker 4: ice for three, my team score two day.
Speaker 5: Score on plus one. Yeah, So I was minus too,
Speaker 5: a kind of a liability. And then I go out
Speaker 5: in the first period of our.
Speaker 2: First as I make you a liability when there's four other.
Speaker 5: Guys because you can kind of like if you were
Speaker 5: to watch the game and know the game, you kind
Speaker 5: of know whose main.
Speaker 4: Fault it is.
Speaker 5: You know, it was kind of like my guy, you
Speaker 5: know if Chandler Jones sacks a QB, like there's a
Speaker 5: bunch of guys in the field, but he beat you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, sorry, sorry, I know what happens.
Speaker 2: Then I kind of got past that in this conversation.
Speaker 4: You know, I didn't forget. Man, I'm gonna look on
Speaker 4: the video and.
Speaker 2: I keep bringing this out to save my own ask.
Speaker 2: You had five sacks in that game, and people think
Speaker 2: I gave up all five had.
Speaker 4: Five did five?
Speaker 2: He said a franchise fucking.
Speaker 4: Record said one or two?
Speaker 2: I gave up to he got five of those fuckers
Speaker 2: on the podue. I think it'd be so funny him
Speaker 2: on and also.
Speaker 5: Have him smoked he smoked in New England before you
Speaker 5: have him on what he's fucking smoked? There Isn't that
Speaker 5: the guy in New England who got booted from the
Speaker 5: team because he was like on like smoking that synthetic weed?
Speaker 2: Was that him?
Speaker 4: It was Channon Jones. You know this is your best
Speaker 4: face bent into a police station with no guy. I
Speaker 4: mean the family.
Speaker 1: You know they have his brother, his brothers John Jones
Speaker 1: in the usc UFC and he got busted with the drugs,
Speaker 1: right yeah, and brother Arthur Jones who also played in
Speaker 1: Have you done that synthetic we before?
Speaker 4: Oh, I actually have no idea what it is?
Speaker 2: Fucking terrifying stuff.
Speaker 4: So you can buy it in a gas station? How
Speaker 4: can you buy that needs to be able to I
Speaker 4: think it was like a big thing and like what
Speaker 4: is thousand and eight nine? It's can't you spice? It's spice,
Speaker 4: but like case smoke it like it's a one hitter.
Speaker 4: Like so, so you've done it.
Speaker 2: When I was sixteen. I did it too spring break
Speaker 2: and they had like they have like levels like five x,
Speaker 2: ten x, twenty x, forty x eighty X. That's what
Speaker 2: Salvia was. And me and a bunch of friends did
Speaker 2: like a a like a one hitter of like the
Speaker 2: five x and dude, twenty minutes of us just laugh
Speaker 2: and have it a fucking blast, like a good thing.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I always peed my pants three times.
Speaker 2: I was laughing so hard, like you know, you can't
Speaker 2: breathe and you gotta stop laughing somehow, Like that's how
Speaker 2: good of a laugh it was. So the next day
Speaker 2: were like, let's go to the smoke shop and get
Speaker 2: some more. And we're like sixteen, we don't know what
Speaker 2: the fuck's going on. We're just kind of figuring life out.
Speaker 2: And we go to this place and we're like twenty
Speaker 2: x four times the last were for Sugarin and do
Speaker 2: it and so and the way myself twelve times dude, yeah,
Speaker 2: And the way this shit works is like it's a
Speaker 2: it's like a one hit thing, look like, yeah, it burns,
Speaker 2: it burns super fast. And so what it would be
Speaker 2: is like I passed you the pipe, you would smoke
Speaker 2: it and then whenever you're done or whatever. So my
Speaker 2: buddy takes it. We're in this hotel room. It's like him,
Speaker 2: me and the girl I was dating at the time,
Speaker 2: and he takes the twenty acts and he takes it inhales.
Speaker 4: And oh no, and he lays down.
Speaker 1: It's like instantly lays down. He's like not responsive for
Speaker 1: like fifteen minutes.
Speaker 2: He's like no, Like He'm like he's like not dying,
Speaker 2: but like he's just like staring up doing this, like
Speaker 2: mumbling and like.
Speaker 4: Won't say a word to us. We're like, hey, Ethan,
Speaker 4: what the brown beer?
Speaker 2: I called him? Remember?
Speaker 4: What? What's are you? Okay?
Speaker 2: What's the deal? And then gets up like twenty minutes
Speaker 2: laters like don't do that. Whatever you do, don't do that.
Speaker 4: No way.
Speaker 2: And I'm a loyal cat, so I'm like, well, if
Speaker 2: you're gonna do I have to do it. I gotta
Speaker 2: fucking do it. He told me not to loyal, So
Speaker 2: you take it it? Yeah, yeah, Like I it's like
Speaker 2: something to prove. I fucking take this thing. And I
Speaker 2: hit it and I put it down like that. I
Speaker 2: put like on the counter and as I'm turning back
Speaker 2: to my.
Speaker 4: Friends, is like frame frame, frame, frame, done, and I'm
Speaker 4: looking around.
Speaker 2: I can see the whole room around me, well looking forward,
Speaker 2: like that's like pictures, you know when you see like
Speaker 2: a collage of pictures. That's what the whole room look
Speaker 2: like to me. And then brown Bear and the girl
Speaker 2: Jackie who I was dating, are like kind of staring
Speaker 2: at me. So I believe in my head that antlers
Speaker 2: are coming out of my head.
Speaker 4: Now, oh you're Chandler.
Speaker 2: I'm freaking the fuck out so like, and there's no
Speaker 2: kind of looking at me, like what's he gonna do
Speaker 2: because we just dealt with Brown Bear having a fucking
Speaker 2: ship show for fifteen minutes.
Speaker 4: Get up, Yeah, I get up.
Speaker 2: I run out of the hotel room, and I like,
Speaker 2: take off all my clothes.
Speaker 4: He completely naked. That's what he did, dude, Oh no, ship,
Speaker 4: that's what he did. He went to the whole He
Speaker 4: went to the police station naked with no shirt on.
Speaker 2: Dude, that's wild. So I did that.
Speaker 4: It was over.
Speaker 2: I woke up in a bathtub pretty much. You woke
Speaker 2: up in a What brought me? They brought me in
Speaker 2: the back of the room at first, called my clothes
Speaker 2: that long fifteen minutes. Oh it's like quick, almost fast
Speaker 2: to the point. Yeah, what the fuck are these How
Speaker 2: are they selling this stuff? I don't think I don't
Speaker 2: think it's like legal anymore, Like they don't want that
Speaker 2: ship go down anymore. Jesus what all the kids would
Speaker 2: do because like smoking weed was so bad, but like, oh,
Speaker 2: this stuff's not illegal, you can do this. And I
Speaker 2: think that was like our thought process. Yeah, right, doing that,
Speaker 2: you think, oh, people people would have like, uh, like seizures.
Speaker 2: I think one dude on a football fields had a
Speaker 2: seizure one time, Like it was a fucking big deal.
Speaker 2: Like our first two years of college two thousand, I
Speaker 2: remember having he's a year older than the all. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean you're almost.
Speaker 4: You guys met when you were on the Titans.
Speaker 2: Thirty one thirty two, two years old. How did you
Speaker 2: guys have the idea of this? It's kind of a
Speaker 2: fun story. Go ahead, will so he need some body armor.
Speaker 1: So when I was playing for the Titans, like I
Speaker 1: was kind of like, uh, I would kind of like
Speaker 1: bring up like doing a podcast, like Taylor and I
Speaker 1: actually met over podcasts.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we loved it then and I was kind.
Speaker 1: Of a new free agent and I was there was
Speaker 1: like me and Mike Campanero and and Taylor. We were like, no, okay,
Speaker 1: we had like a little breakfast club and I think
Speaker 1: I was talking about like Ben Greenfield maybe, or Taylor
Speaker 1: and I were talking about performance like.
Speaker 2: A breakfast club. But we would always sit down and talk.
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm sorry and uh good, No, no
Speaker 1: one would ever have to.
Speaker 4: Tell Bez to do that. There we go. I'm the
Speaker 4: new bizzs and uh.
Speaker 1: And so I would Taylor and I would talk about
Speaker 1: recovery and stuff because we do the song and cold
Speaker 1: tubs and I was like, bro, you got to listen
Speaker 1: to Ben Greenfield on podcast.
Speaker 4: It's like a bio hacker.
Speaker 1: He's like a biohacker for like performance and recovery. And
Speaker 1: then we're talking about like a Joe Rogan pod. So
Speaker 1: we kind of got to know each other over podcasting.
Speaker 2: But you want to say that, well, I want to
Speaker 2: say that the Titans were doing this podcast did the
Speaker 2: top uh oh t p TP the Official Titans podcast,
Speaker 2: and uh they wanted me to go do it, and
Speaker 2: I was like, will.
Speaker 4: You should come with me? I just joined the team.
Speaker 2: We just met like two days ago, and people are
Speaker 2: tweeting when Will got signed, like yo, Will Compton and
Speaker 2: Taylor want to be best friends? No, were looking at
Speaker 2: being like, how do people know this what this dude's about?
Speaker 2: Because we'll have like the who's the WWE guy that
Speaker 2: does the beer more beer Tequila Austin, Steve Austin. Sorry, sorry, dude,
Speaker 2: so cold b because they had like clips of Ham
Speaker 2: and I would always do stupid shit. Also, so uh,
Speaker 2: they're like these two are like a match made in heaven.
Speaker 2: And then I had to go do that and we
Speaker 2: did that. It was a fucking blast.
Speaker 4: Oh well blast, yeah, like I had always like this,
Speaker 4: this is twenty eighteen. Okay, so podcasts relatively still new,
Speaker 4: I mean like we started nineteen yeah yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: And so that year I wasn't getting a lot of burn.
Speaker 1: I wasn't playing a lot. I was on special teams.
Speaker 1: I was a backup and the guy ahead of me, like,
Speaker 1: you know how it is you need it as a
Speaker 1: death player, you need a guy ahead of you to
Speaker 1: get injured, to kind of get in there and play.
Speaker 4: And that didn't happen for me. So low key, I
Speaker 4: was thinking about real estate.
Speaker 1: I was thinking about, you know, what might I do
Speaker 1: because I was twenty nine years old.
Speaker 2: I was gonna be thirty next.
Speaker 1: Year, an undrafted guy white, Like you know, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be a minimum contract guy from here on that white things.
Speaker 4: As a deal too. Oh yeah, thank being a white
Speaker 4: grinder NFL game. Yeah, racist, right.
Speaker 1: I was kind of thinking about podcast I was kind
Speaker 1: of thinking about podcasts a lot more.
Speaker 2: And I remember being like Taylor's basement.
Speaker 1: We were just hanging out one night and him and
Speaker 1: his wife are like, you know, my wife was would
Speaker 1: tell me to do it, but you know, like your
Speaker 1: wife tells you just kind of like based on you.
Speaker 1: But when somebody else tells, you're like okay, and Taylor
Speaker 1: and Taylor were like, yeah, I mean you should. You
Speaker 1: should look at doing it, like you know, start start
Speaker 1: writing it up and stuff like that. And so I
Speaker 1: remember thinking about doing it. I was kind of off and
Speaker 1: on it. I went to a radio show one night
Speaker 1: and I was on the phone with Taylor. I remember
Speaker 1: I was driving, it was night, it was raining, and
Speaker 1: I was about to pull up to go do the
Speaker 1: radio show with.
Speaker 2: Amy or whatever. Yeah, and I was telling Taylor.
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, I think I'm gonna do it,
Speaker 1: and He's like, man, I'll do it with you if
Speaker 1: you want me to. And I was like, bro, that
Speaker 1: would make me feel so much.
Speaker 2: When I thought you asked me to be on it,
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 4: I was just talking about it. No, no, no, I'm
Speaker 4: actually no, I'm not trying to.
Speaker 2: Try to talk because when you told the story in
Speaker 2: the past, you're like, I really want to do it,
Speaker 2: but you feel more comfortable if you had somebody to
Speaker 2: do it.
Speaker 4: But yeah, yeah, yeah, that which is true alone would
Speaker 4: be like in a couple of months now.
Speaker 2: Now, I love doing like solo pods, like doing every
Speaker 2: once in a while. I think it's a blast. You
Speaker 2: can just say dumb jokes and fuck around. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: think it's fun. Wow, I had to do one every
Speaker 2: week like this, it'd be a fucking hard deal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so, uh, you kind of know how you
Speaker 1: need your peers to kind of influence you too. Like
Speaker 1: a couple guys in the locker room was like, hey,
Speaker 1: com you should have your own podcast. I'm thinking, oh shit,
Speaker 1: I've been talking about it, like, man, maybe maybe I
Speaker 1: should do it. And then when Taylor is like, I'll
Speaker 1: do it with you, I was like, all right, I'm
Speaker 1: fucking in bro. So I'm like getting stuff up, and
Speaker 1: then in January comes to season over, we lose on
Speaker 1: a winning in game. I'm like lining up to meet
Speaker 1: with people. I'm looking all the pods I wanted to
Speaker 1: look like and what I wanted to look like on
Speaker 1: social media and all the influences I've had with podcasts.
Speaker 2: Which is like the opposite of what it looks like now.
Speaker 2: But this means the podcast you want to start, Yeah,
Speaker 2: the Dan and stuff like that. But as far as
Speaker 2: two share, like this is a fighter and the kids
Speaker 2: set up, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know
Speaker 2: what you mean.
Speaker 1: And so January comes and tell us like, hey, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go to California for a few weeks or for
Speaker 1: a couple of months, maybe.
Speaker 2: No, I said a couple of weeks. I said a
Speaker 2: couple of weeks at first, end up being until April. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it end up being til April. And I'll say, Bros,
Speaker 2: I was a real San Diego, not the Russian one.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I was feeling myself.
Speaker 4: I gotta get out there. I'm gonna I'm gonna train
Speaker 4: and I'm gonna do this.
Speaker 1: And you know, Taylor and I just known each other
Speaker 1: for like half a year at that point, don't yeah,
Speaker 1: and so I kind of don't know what our officers are,
Speaker 1: like we had just trained in the summer. But I'm like,
Speaker 1: all right, bro, you're you sure you want to do
Speaker 1: this podcast? Like you promise you want to do this podcast.
Speaker 1: I'll wait on you that you know, I'll wait free forever.
Speaker 1: But I was like, I'll wait on you, but if not,
Speaker 1: I want to get going because I don't know if
Speaker 1: I'm going to be playing next year based on the.
Speaker 2: Year I just had.
Speaker 1: And I got to strike while the iron's hot, and
Speaker 1: so he's like, I'll do it. I was like, all right,
Speaker 1: I waited he came back. I was dabbling with the
Speaker 1: idea of calling it the Den podcast. I was in
Speaker 1: the like, you know, I still I still like having
Speaker 1: the one on one conversations, but wolves and ship but.
Speaker 4: Anyway, not actually like.
Speaker 1: The bus this this uh this broad out of Chicago.
Speaker 4: Were you going to see you bray.
Speaker 2: Because I thought of the bus, but yeah, oh.
Speaker 4: Taylor, you thought of a bush. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: my fault. The bus idea I thought you were doing
Speaker 4: about I'm broad.
Speaker 1: I was like, I told you something about the name
Speaker 1: name by Yeah, busting with the boys.
Speaker 2: I thought there was a our thing.
Speaker 4: No, because remember at first, we didn't want to do
Speaker 4: anything for the boys related.
Speaker 1: Because hey, I'm glad you're here them to find out
Speaker 1: we don't remember, we didn't want the boys on the team.
Speaker 1: Thinking we were kind of running with something that we
Speaker 1: were all doing like together, because.
Speaker 2: We had this whole thing going during the season.
Speaker 4: Was like we're the boys.
Speaker 1: Remember, We're thinking about two pieces of a pod, two
Speaker 1: boys in a bus.
Speaker 4: So yeah, but not the way we were. Okay, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: We're the same but different dude. But we were like
Speaker 2: mean girls, dude. Every day we were we were pink.
Speaker 4: I was.
Speaker 1: I was meet with the producer at the time that
Speaker 1: they were going to help us, and he's like, hey,
Speaker 1: what do you think about this bus, Like it's out
Speaker 1: back and the show.
Speaker 2: To me, I was like, I don't fucking want to
Speaker 2: do it.
Speaker 1: I was like, Taylor's gonna fucking love this when he
Speaker 1: sees it, though, so let's just wait till he gets it.
Speaker 2: Taylor comes, He's like, you knew it.
Speaker 4: Oh that's fucking dude, this is awesome.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he goes it wasn't like this at all, Like,
Speaker 1: look at that little thing on the door right there,
Speaker 1: basically looked like that everywhere.
Speaker 4: Chairs were fucking everywhere.
Speaker 1: Everyone All yeah, there was there, but like he was
Speaker 1: a bus, he was a rusted.
Speaker 5: Broke You guys got now, you got the Chevy, you
Speaker 5: got whistle pit.
Speaker 4: You guys are killing it most like a reliable vehicle
Speaker 4: out there, Like I'll.
Speaker 1: Throw ting grand into it and he goes, if it works,
Speaker 1: then that's fucking awesome. They think they can try and
Speaker 1: make it work, then that's good. And if not, I'll
Speaker 1: just keep it in my backyard like it's fucking cool.
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm sitting there overthinking kind of stress,
Speaker 1: like all right, let's just fucking do it because I'm
Speaker 1: ready to get going. And uh so we do it, man,
Speaker 1: And we started ripping a couple of episodes, like, I mean,
Speaker 1: it looked way different.
Speaker 4: We were in the heat back then, in like the
Speaker 4: ninety eight degree weather.
Speaker 1: Some gal was like when we were thinking of names,
Speaker 1: we were talking about like two boys one bus or
Speaker 1: two peas in a pot, or we were talking we're
Speaker 1: trying to come up with different shiit you both to
Speaker 1: be fucking bankrupt right now, but sometimes like bust with
Speaker 1: the Boys, and we were kind of like we were
Speaker 1: getting to where we were ready to shoot our episodes
Speaker 1: and we're going We also said the Boys is kind
Speaker 1: of like stupid. We we do like it at first,
Speaker 1: and remember Taylor goes, oh, yeah, I thought itsuf cooler
Speaker 1: and we were both like, yeah, does.
Speaker 4: Not influence on us too? Yeah, yeah, that was my wife. Okay,
Speaker 4: she is she she can shoot up people with the
Speaker 4: best of them, but in this situation, like all this stuff,
Speaker 4: she's like, yeah, you know, it could be better.
Speaker 2: Gets in your head.
Speaker 1: It's in your fucking melons, remember, and this is fucking
Speaker 1: you just took from there.
Speaker 4: Whatever whatever you're about to say, Okay.
Speaker 5: Mind go ahead, any name, any name you hear at
Speaker 5: the beginning. It's never gonna be like, yes, that's it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I feel like because I'm like already thought of spitting chicklets.
Speaker 4: I was like, I don't know, what does spitting chicklets mean?
Speaker 5: Like, because sitting teeth, you're shooting the ship, but you're
Speaker 5: losing teeth playing hockey.
Speaker 4: Spitting that's kind of what I said. I was like,
Speaker 4: I don't know, man, but I feel like I'm more
Speaker 4: meant there's never gonna be a name You're like, yes,
Speaker 4: we're in right. I feel like it's like gonna be like,
Speaker 4: okay that, yeah, we can work with that. That's got
Speaker 4: to make the name.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, real, this is a cool ass name though.
Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you. So so was bussed with the boys.
Speaker 4: I love a busting in the boys. I think that
Speaker 4: I be to have you guys. Have you guys gotten
Speaker 4: into the interview and retired NFL? Like, how do you do?
Speaker 4: You do you have an interview every episode?
Speaker 2: Or is it we sometimes we have interviews sometimes we
Speaker 2: do just ourselves, Like I think.
Speaker 4: In mid season, are you just talking on your own?
Speaker 4: Since he's kind of no, there's usually somebody on kind
Speaker 4: of We've gotten lucky the last couple of years because
Speaker 4: last year we had COVID when I was on the
Speaker 4: Tide Sale and I were both on the time.
Speaker 2: Un Fortunately, we were winning, so you know, winning you
Speaker 2: feel better doing the podcast.
Speaker 4: If you're losing it. If we're losing, we probably wouldn't.
Speaker 1: I mean, who knows, but Taylor unfortunately had torn as
Speaker 1: ACL But COVID wise, players can be around each other,
Speaker 1: so Taylor would run him solo and we would look
Speaker 1: at zooming guys in but we kind of hate the
Speaker 1: zoom things.
Speaker 4: Sucks, Yeah, but it's also like you can do with
Speaker 4: whoever you want, right.
Speaker 5: How we do it And I actually that million million
Speaker 5: dollars worth of game another boss to one interview not
Speaker 5: in person, they travel to people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and but like so we'll probably have to start
Speaker 2: doing if you want to work and like.
Speaker 5: You know, I don't know, it's it's it's hard to do.
Speaker 5: But ideally, like an interview on zoom compared to in
Speaker 5: person is a different planet. It sucks and zoom and
Speaker 5: when you.
Speaker 4: Do the like you want to say something, he's trying
Speaker 4: to say something, you interrupt each other on the zoom and.
Speaker 2: There's a lag in the internet and then you all
Speaker 2: talk and then everyone stops talking and then someone goes
Speaker 2: and it's like what are we playing?
Speaker 4: Red Light? Green Light with awkward moment where everyone's looking
Speaker 4: at each other like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, online your head, you're like, we're gonna cut the
Speaker 2: ship out of this part, like make sure it's no
Speaker 2: fucking dead.
Speaker 4: Area, say something, say something, say something, and then you
Speaker 4: gotta say something. Wilse says the same thing. It makes
Speaker 4: it sound like you're you're tough to reel in. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you really are me. I am. I am really and
Speaker 4: we're like business.
Speaker 5: It's a buz and buz and I will will lifelong
Speaker 5: be like really good friends because I've told we're always
Speaker 5: really honest with each other. And I told Biz, I said, biz, like,
Speaker 5: I've made money, I love golf, I have two young kids.
Speaker 5: I'm I love this podcast, and I've actually gotten more
Speaker 5: into it the past couple of years. But I'm not
Speaker 5: gonna be like changing everything to like make this work.
Speaker 5: Like you, let's plan stuff out and I'll be there.
Speaker 5: But in terms of like the way you are and
Speaker 5: how you're willing to go anywhere and do anything at
Speaker 5: a moment's.
Speaker 4: No, I'm not like that. But I think because we're
Speaker 4: honest with each other, it works. So there's times he's
Speaker 4: frustrated with me, no doubt, but that's just kind of
Speaker 4: how it is.
Speaker 5: Because in the end, like, I'm not going to sacrifice
Speaker 5: kind of my happiness for work because of the money
Speaker 5: I made before, even though I love my job, it's
Speaker 5: just like I think that makes me better.
Speaker 4: At my job too. What do you do besides this
Speaker 4: like golf?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, all right, here you going an annual badass
Speaker 1: trip with the boys. I'm talking pj's helicopters picking you up.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's kind of gotten hurt since COVID, but we
Speaker 5: have like a bunch of Europeans Swedish guys.
Speaker 4: We go over to Europe, get helicopters to the course.
Speaker 4: It's sick. Then, like at the end of Scotland one year,
Speaker 4: Henrik Zetterberg, Nicholas Backstrom and Eric Carlson got us like a.
Speaker 5: Big jet, like a big jet to go to Spain.
Speaker 5: We finished the trip off there. From Scotland, we went
Speaker 5: to Majorca.
Speaker 4: It was great. Yeah, it's fucking hard, Yeah, it legit,
Speaker 4: it was. It was awesome.
Speaker 5: So I will say though, like I've gotten more into
Speaker 5: like every year it goes on and more into the pod,
Speaker 5: I think because like you can only play so much golf.
Speaker 4: I love it. But I also I am like, all right,
Speaker 4: let's kind of try to make a legacy here with
Speaker 4: the pod and try to do what we can. But
Speaker 4: it's so I think the podcasting is so cool.
Speaker 5: You guys know it's it's it's a lot of people
Speaker 5: think it's very easy, and I don't really blame them, Like, dude,
Speaker 5: you show up to work one day a week. I'm like, well,
Speaker 5: we have one show a week, but it's not really
Speaker 5: one day a week because you're preparing for the show
Speaker 5: throughout the week. You're doing interviews that we bank throughout
Speaker 5: the week. Then when you do the show, you know
Speaker 5: we record two three hours. Our shows are long now,
Speaker 5: they're like three to four hours. Everything long, feathery long,
Speaker 5: which is you guys.
Speaker 1: Were doing well, why wouldn't you split the three hour?
Speaker 4: Like, why wouldn't you do two a week?
Speaker 2: Why'd you go back to one?
Speaker 4: Because two we can because every time we get on,
Speaker 4: when we get on, no matter what, it's two and
Speaker 4: a half hours, three hours.
Speaker 2: So if it's three hours, why don't you do like
Speaker 2: an hour and a half and then do an hour
Speaker 2: and a half on Wednesday.
Speaker 4: That would be a good argument.
Speaker 5: But hockey it's tough because hockey, like you, we go
Speaker 5: into the main stories we have and we end up
Speaker 5: going off on to tangents. But if you were to
Speaker 5: do two times a week in hockey, which we did,
Speaker 5: there's not that much going on.
Speaker 4: It's kind of hard. There's a lot of times on
Speaker 4: the second episode during the week, you're like, oh, we.
Speaker 5: Don't have much here, and so I guess we could
Speaker 5: kind of go a little shorter each time, but it's
Speaker 5: worked out better. I think we our listeners have gone
Speaker 5: up since we went to one two week and this.
Speaker 5: You know, you get complaints no matter what online, but
Speaker 5: it is what it is.
Speaker 4: We don't get We don't get any complaints. No people
Speaker 4: love you know, you'll tell me. They know that. I'm
Speaker 4: got my head taking off board Warriors football season, word Warriors.
Speaker 4: No one gets.
Speaker 2: No one fucking gets after me. No one gets after
Speaker 2: me more than keyboard Warriors. But on the spot and
Speaker 2: it nuts. People fucking love it.
Speaker 4: It's fucking wild. So I used to uh so Twitter's
Speaker 4: I got on Twitter in twenty eleven.
Speaker 1: And hilarious by the way, I love you're you, You're
Speaker 1: a big love and fucking calling people clowns.
Speaker 4: I think I appreciate that.
Speaker 5: But I I got on it, and then I really
Speaker 5: started struggling in Edmonton, kind of the lowest part of
Speaker 5: my career as my career ended, and people in Canada like,
Speaker 5: it's fucking crazy, and so they would torture me, and
Speaker 5: I would get so mad. I'll block people. I would
Speaker 5: get I would get so fucking mad. And now when
Speaker 5: people chirt me and like say they hate me on
Speaker 5: the pod, I don't care.
Speaker 4: It's so weird.
Speaker 5: Like like you said, like I get I used to
Speaker 5: get so mad about the haters in hockey, But on
Speaker 5: the pod, I'm like, I don't give a fuck what
Speaker 5: you say. I don't BlimE anyone anymore. But people I
Speaker 5: get now they're like, hey, I love the Paul you
Speaker 5: unblock me. I'm like, no, dude, you're the only fucking
Speaker 5: person staying blocked. You pray because you told me I
Speaker 5: sucked at hockey.
Speaker 2: That's the only thing I cared you would have played
Speaker 2: a professional sport and being on Twitter, because if someone
Speaker 2: tweets at me and says, oh, you're a dogshit person,
Speaker 2: it's like, well this person doesn't know me. Who fucking knows.
Speaker 2: But like if I'm if it's Sunday and I play
Speaker 2: a game, people will get to see how good I
Speaker 2: really am at football.
Speaker 4: So that's the thing.
Speaker 2: They can really say that at one point and I've
Speaker 2: gotten away from a little bit, like can fucking hurt?
Speaker 4: Oh really you have?
Speaker 2: I had a trash game and then you fucking refresh
Speaker 2: your thing, and it's like you fucking suck. Just something
Speaker 2: that simplest from a dude with twelve followers.
Speaker 4: I know he didn't. It didn't matter. The fucking egg,
Speaker 4: the little egg, damn fucking egg. Want to cry. I
Speaker 4: remember I remember dreading. I remember dreading. I was I
Speaker 4: was minus three in the game in Edmonton. It was
Speaker 4: a Saturday night, hockey night in Kenna.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I remember Dreading clicking on Twitter like it's like
Speaker 5: that probably means mentally, I should maybe delete the thing
Speaker 5: if I'm like going like this like down, piece of ship, scumbag,
Speaker 5: pussy ankles, suck on this you blaw.
Speaker 4: I was like, oh my god, I wanted to cry.
Speaker 4: I just go home and get ice cream and drink bro.
Speaker 1: I'd have a buddy we get on the plane after
Speaker 1: the game and you know, we just lost her something
Speaker 1: and be like, hey, uh his name was Spencer Long.
Speaker 1: He'd be like, hey, Spencer, what you did. He's like,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go fucking punish myself on Twitter real.
Speaker 4: Quick, type in his name and just fucking seed.
Speaker 5: How bad he played, and and and I'll say this
Speaker 5: like maybe it well not maybe it's definitely because I
Speaker 5: was on the other side of getting the hate but
Speaker 5: I would never ever right to somebody like you like
Speaker 5: you sucked. You sucked at this game. I think it's
Speaker 5: so odd that people like feel the neat.
Speaker 4: I have good, good buddies who go at like Patriots
Speaker 4: beers like you fucking suck.
Speaker 5: On Twitter, I'm like, dude, why what are you doing?
Speaker 5: Like how weird is that to write that to someone?
Speaker 5: I think like it's like almost something about them in
Speaker 5: a way, like you want to like we have.
Speaker 1: A weird sense of entitlement, like I've been a fan
Speaker 1: since this for this long, like I deserve this, Like, hey, listen, sorry, bro,
Speaker 1: team's gonna thrive it out without you.
Speaker 2: Bub Yeah, hey tell you.
Speaker 4: I used to tell my guys in the bar.
Speaker 5: I remember I was eating a steak in Edmonton and
Speaker 5: I was I was struggling, like I said, and I
Speaker 5: was eating a steak.
Speaker 4: I'm a the fucking and I'm like, this guy comes up,
Speaker 4: he's like on the shoulder and he's like, you're fucking horrible.
Speaker 4: I'm like, dude, in person, respect that though I'm horrible
Speaker 4: in person.
Speaker 5: You know, I'm like, Bro, I'm trying to eat this
Speaker 5: filet mignon. Can you leave me alone right now? And
Speaker 5: then I told him, I go, you should have shot
Speaker 5: more fucking pucks. Dude, I'm sorry you didn't make it.
Speaker 5: I know you play junior B, but don't be mad
Speaker 5: at me because I made it and you did and
Speaker 5: you think I stink.
Speaker 2: I started doing this thing on Instagram and Twitter. When
Speaker 2: I when I get a DM from somebody and they're
Speaker 2: like you fucking suck, like you're this or that, I'll
Speaker 2: DM them back and be like, hey, I'm sorry you
Speaker 2: feel that way, Like I'm just I'm coming back from you.
Speaker 2: And every single one I've probably done this seventy five hundreds,
Speaker 2: everyone's like, hey man, I'm just trying.
Speaker 4: To motivate you.
Speaker 2: I fucking love you this and there I can show.
Speaker 4: You countless m she'd be like you pussy, yeah, fucking bitch,
Speaker 4: piece of shit.
Speaker 2: Just keep saying it, fucking sheep.
Speaker 4: Dude.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a it's crazy, it's a it's a it's
Speaker 5: a it's a brutal thing. The whole social media is
Speaker 5: it's just hard for athletes. And I know people have
Speaker 5: no sympathy whatsoever for people who make all this money,
Speaker 5: but it's like when you hear constantly how bad you
Speaker 5: are and The problem is people also really take into
Speaker 5: the effect when you see how.
Speaker 4: Good you are because you light it up. You're so good,
Speaker 4: you're lighting up.
Speaker 5: It's like, well, if you're reading that, like you're gonna
Speaker 5: read the same stuff when you're doing bad.
Speaker 2: And it's wild because you can see ten things that
Speaker 2: say you're a stud and the one and you see
Speaker 2: one that's like you fucking suck and you're like, damn,
Speaker 2: I know, and this dude's not but fuck nower Kentucky,
Speaker 2: probably living in his parents' basement. I care about this
Speaker 2: dude's opinion.
Speaker 4: I know, girl, whatever, I know. It's you know what, man,
Speaker 4: it's crazy.
Speaker 1: It's like they're saying to live for the cheers, died
Speaker 1: by the booze kind of like what you're saying, like
Speaker 1: you kind of like wanting to feed your ego.
Speaker 2: People saying you're awesome.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're good.
Speaker 1: If you're good enough, it just tanks you because you're like,
Speaker 1: you're like living the high life too, and everybody's celebrating you.
Speaker 2: The thing that it's you can tell like it's so
Speaker 2: kind of faked is I'll have all of a good
Speaker 2: game and all people are shooting on me, and it
Speaker 2: won't hurt near as much because you know, I know.
Speaker 2: Oh but if I had a couple of fuck ups
Speaker 2: and someone says something, I'm like, damn, I played that bad.
Speaker 4: Well, how about when you're playing bad in your mind
Speaker 4: with people a good game? You like, no, dude, yes,
Speaker 4: what are you talking about? These guys are no fucking
Speaker 4: even more you don't even you probably.
Speaker 2: Will say no, I won't at least say's the kind
Speaker 2: of thinguy played?
Speaker 5: First off, I'm like that one guy retweet the motherfucker
Speaker 5: like coach Jerry Jerry, the kid from on Twitter said
Speaker 5: I was good, so sorry, said.
Speaker 4: The prayer emojis like Cord tweeting it.
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Speaker 1: don't play a lot and people just fucking ream you
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Speaker 2: Photo of me just standing on the sideline.
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Speaker 4: How's the pension for you?
Speaker 2: Good? It's straight Yeah, it's actually really good.
Speaker 4: Based on games played. Oh you're getting a nice pension. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you can get it for they spend two dollars every
Speaker 4: one you spend.
Speaker 2: Oh, you're really talking about different things, Pinch, if you're
Speaker 2: talking about four one k.
Speaker 4: Okay, what's what's the pension? Pension is like what you
Speaker 4: get for credited years.
Speaker 1: So since I've played nine seasons, that equates to like
Speaker 1: sixty something hundred dollars a month.
Speaker 2: Once you turn fifty five, what yeah, bro, oh.
Speaker 1: You're gonna get a You're like you're like five thousand something,
Speaker 1: but you'll bump up to like sixty. I want to say,
Speaker 1: mine's like sixty five hundred right now when you turn
Speaker 1: fifty five.
Speaker 4: When you're fifty five, you're going hard. I've been like
Speaker 4: four times he got gone, so you better get that, Pinch.
Speaker 2: I was telling JP they were driving and I'm like, uh,
Speaker 2: I'm like yo, dude. Like sometimes like the first three
Speaker 2: weeks after the season, I'm fucked. Like talking is more
Speaker 2: difficult for me. I stutter a lot more, and I'm
Speaker 2: telling JP, this is we're coming from something, and what
Speaker 2: does that ever happened to you? He just kind of
Speaker 2: looks up the window and goes, nah, man, that's sad.
Speaker 4: Fucking crazy.
Speaker 2: And like literally I was like right at the end
Speaker 2: of the three weeks with like when I was talking
Speaker 2: about it, and it's been like, what's been a week since? Right,
Speaker 2: feels so much better now. It's those three weeks. I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm cool now. But when I first end the season
Speaker 2: and my body's like, okay, we're done, and it's kind
Speaker 2: of just like lower you luggage, Yeah you fucking no doubt. Okay,
Speaker 2: we gotta talk about hockey trips. This dude's fucking putting
Speaker 2: out gold right fun right now.
Speaker 4: When you said that to him, you were hoping a degree.
Speaker 4: It's like when you're playing you ever hundred man, I'm
Speaker 4: so tired today, like just hoping that I feel great.
Speaker 4: It's like, no, don't see, really, dude, I had great
Speaker 4: sleep less nights. I you tell me the same. Did
Speaker 4: you guys meet your goon squad over here?
Speaker 2: The squad is a kind of like just a bunch
Speaker 2: of ship had to happen. We had We had two
Speaker 2: guys with us in the beginning that were good dudes.
Speaker 2: They were sorry different, they had a different ideas, differ
Speaker 2: And then we had a we started finding the new
Speaker 2: production guys, and we found one guy to come in
Speaker 2: and had all the promises in the world, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, me tail in a coffee shop and Taylor and
Speaker 4: not like.
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sitting there walking call them billions, bro, fucking
Speaker 2: billions are coming out the world to like post a
Speaker 2: story or something. We're like, let's fucking go.
Speaker 4: He's like, is everything you didn't know?
Speaker 2: It's like this, and it's like he was showing me
Speaker 2: some basic shiit. He comes and the guy in the
Speaker 2: back left over there, boss was with him, photographer and
Speaker 2: this dude. I think we did like three or four
Speaker 2: episodes with them, and they were like, all right. We
Speaker 2: went to say five hundred bucks, Like we can't fucking
Speaker 2: do that. Dude, he wanted you to pay them that much. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was a shitload of money, and so what I
Speaker 2: don't fucking know.
Speaker 1: He he copy and pasted dude's bios from Wikipedia as
Speaker 1: like the.
Speaker 4: YouTube for an interview.
Speaker 1: Like but even even when we post the YouTube, like
Speaker 1: in the description he put like the dude's Wikipedia as
Speaker 1: like the Bible, as like the description like he just
Speaker 1: cut corners. He's one of those dudes that would fly
Speaker 1: to La laying the plane rent out of Ferrari just so.
Speaker 2: He can fucking take pictures and pay them. Yeah, that's
Speaker 2: a that's a pretty specific version, right. Yeah, So Boss
Speaker 2: hit a stuff, I don't know how exactly, Boston Will.
Speaker 2: We're talking and he goes like, Hey, I love what
Speaker 2: you guys are doing. I love to help out whereever
Speaker 2: I can. And Boss is also a cop too, so
Speaker 2: he like does this kind of just to be up
Speaker 2: with the boys. Yeah, and the cash when he pulls
Speaker 2: this ride.
Speaker 4: And you're fucking out. We had uh, we had this one.
Speaker 2: There's a piece of paper up there, like if you
Speaker 2: look in the back, there's a piece of paper and
Speaker 2: it says, uh, I woke up today feeling it was
Speaker 2: time to tighten the fuck up. That guy name was
Speaker 2: named Matt Neely, and he was like, Dude, the position
Speaker 2: we're in right now. Neely would have fucking loved We've
Speaker 2: said all the time.
Speaker 4: Drive dude.
Speaker 2: He loved barstool too, and uh, he was huge Titans fan.
Speaker 2: Like over the top, big meme guy, and he was
Speaker 2: with us, and so it was, yeah, I thought, I thought, uh, rully,
Speaker 2: I couldn't trust him because he was like such a
Speaker 2: huge Titans fan. I was, I don't want I don't
Speaker 2: want this guy to be around my.
Speaker 5: I would, I would, I would understand that you're just like, dude,
Speaker 5: I don't know, I'm on the Titans.
Speaker 2: There's something, yeah, you hear well, And I didn't want
Speaker 2: to like say something like something you know when you're
Speaker 2: frustrated when you're playing hockey and then you're just like, man,
Speaker 2: fuck this fuck this guy or this coach, and it's
Speaker 2: like you're kind of just saying it to get it
Speaker 2: out and then you move on. Like I don't want
Speaker 2: that to stick with him. So I kept my distance
Speaker 2: and right around uh, like Junior July of the year
Speaker 2: the year what year was that?
Speaker 4: Nineteen?
Speaker 2: It was it was nineteen, Yeah, I was nineteen. Right
Speaker 2: around Junior July nineteen, like I really started like, Okay,
Speaker 2: this dude's like I trust him, he's a boy.
Speaker 4: I trust him. I liked him.
Speaker 7: So we really started getting close. They were really close,
Speaker 7: and so I was suspended in nineteen and he would
Speaker 7: come over during the games, and he would just be
Speaker 7: so hilariously self deprecating and talk about how like if
Speaker 7: the Titans don't score here, he's gonna kill himself. Then
Speaker 7: all this like crazy shit, like he's so hilarious.
Speaker 4: We're still a mean type guy. Hilarious. He would have
Speaker 4: he would murdered.
Speaker 2: He'd probably been he'd be at HQ right now killing it.
Speaker 2: And then in October or was it? Yeah, it was October,
Speaker 2: like right when I got back to start playing will
Speaker 2: calm and he like passed away in the shower. Oh way,
Speaker 2: fucking passed away. Brother was tough man.
Speaker 4: Holy shit? How old was he twenty? My car age right,
Speaker 4: he would have been twenty.
Speaker 2: Fan legend, like every Titan fan kind of knew who was. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that sucks really profile picture of him as a frock.
Speaker 2: Oh bro, he was so funny.
Speaker 4: Let's post that. God damn frog, especially because he kind
Speaker 4: of like built your trust, like at the beginning, maybe
Speaker 4: you like it.
Speaker 2: Really hurt when you went because like, sorry to hear that.
Speaker 2: It makes me I wish I trusted him earlier because
Speaker 2: we only got like three good months together.
Speaker 4: I like trust him. We like really grew relationship well
Speaker 4: you got.
Speaker 5: What you guys have now is awesome. It's really cool
Speaker 5: to see this. It's a good experience. I'm glad I
Speaker 5: could be a part of this.
Speaker 4: You think it's over, Yeah, I got the game, and
Speaker 4: then that's when the stuff that's out here. I thought
Speaker 4: that maybe the right Let's take this sip of the
Speaker 4: whistle bay.
Speaker 2: We can't just fucking have it sit in there and
Speaker 2: not have a little sip.
Speaker 4: Whistle p holy ship whistle pick. This is great.
Speaker 2: We all just get super quiet as we pass around.
Speaker 4: No I knew telling pussy bitch I was taking. I
Speaker 4: was thinking it. I don't uh drink a whole lot.
Speaker 4: I do love whistle paper. I'm gonna drink some of
Speaker 4: this still because I've had. Dude, it's smooth too, it's good.
Speaker 2: It's not a big deal.
Speaker 4: So the only time I.
Speaker 5: Really drink whiskey is when I go play golf in Europe.
Speaker 5: We all put in flasks and.
Speaker 4: It makes makes unique. It makes us feel so like
Speaker 4: we're playing golf in Europe. Just win the rain. You're
Speaker 4: drinking whiskey, shutting them out, Dude, I'm not shutting them ount.
Speaker 2: You're hoing that good on the bottle then the guys,
Speaker 2: I've had two shots of it, so I'm gonna.
Speaker 4: Keep drinking it. Pink Whitney is like, so we found
Speaker 4: out that two of the biggest markouts, two of the
Speaker 4: two of the biggest markets, but you can set up
Speaker 4: that uber was Memphis, was Memphis, Tennessee and Jackson, Mississippi.
Speaker 2: Wait, what are you talking about?
Speaker 4: There was a month or like a couple of months
Speaker 4: span where two of the biggest markets selling pink Whitney
Speaker 4: was Memphis, Tennessee and Jackson, Mississippi.
Speaker 5: Like, people have no clue what chicklets is. Who I
Speaker 5: am like this, It's just it's a pink vodka.
Speaker 1: It's like you guys have been murdering it too, right,
Speaker 1: Like I want to say, business, tellman, you can correct
Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong, but I won't even know The Rock.
Speaker 1: The Rock came out with this teremna at first when
Speaker 1: we first got to the Rock, talking about we did
Speaker 1: all this stuff and business.
Speaker 4: Like, yo, we fucking tripled the Rock.
Speaker 5: The Rock says he's the biggest selling spirit. Yeah, we've
Speaker 5: changed the game. We've changed the game over ten has
Speaker 5: so much success with it. You want to know a
Speaker 5: funny story.
Speaker 4: Big Hey, I do love the rock though, and I
Speaker 4: love bringing guys one something I don't know.
Speaker 5: I don't know if that I want to know something funny.
Speaker 5: So we went out, we did the taste tests in
Speaker 5: Boston and they bring us in. So we did the
Speaker 5: taste test and we go in and business I my
Speaker 5: wife was there, and they have they have like eight different.
Speaker 4: Options for us to taste. So the first one, I'm like,
Speaker 4: that's pretty good. I like that.
Speaker 5: One second one, I'm like, no, boom, that's done. Not
Speaker 5: the second one. Third one, okay, boss, let's put it
Speaker 5: near the first one. And as we get to the
Speaker 5: eighth one, it's like, all right, we got we got
Speaker 5: we got four that are options, four that are brutal.
Speaker 5: Let's go to the four that are options.
Speaker 4: We go through one. I still like two. Actually I
Speaker 4: don't think so three. Let's get that with one. Four
Speaker 4: we're done. So we got one and three, we got
Speaker 4: two options, and we get to one and three. Boom, boom,
Speaker 4: We're getting pretty fucked up. That's this thing. And so
Speaker 4: we finished. We're like, that's it.
Speaker 5: Number three, boom, that's what we're going with. They're like, well,
Speaker 5: they were all the same.
Speaker 4: I'm like what you're fucking line. I'm like, what do
Speaker 4: you mean then all the same? They're like, those are
Speaker 4: all the same drink we already picked. I'm like, it's
Speaker 4: my fucking name. I didn't get to pick. Yeah, that's
Speaker 4: so I remember saying MB. I'm like, that's not gonna
Speaker 4: be a fucking video. That will not be a video.
Speaker 4: U No, no, no, first said it on the pod,
Speaker 4: I said it on the video out there. Yeah. Can
Speaker 4: we get the actual video to put with this club?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: For sure, it's fucking hilarious. We're like, no, no, no,
Speaker 4: the first one was way better. The dude's backs like
Speaker 4: same voga dickhead. Yeah, that's true. They did say that
Speaker 4: that the ice that they were in there was melting
Speaker 4: it and watering it down.
Speaker 2: But the way, how did you so when you guys
Speaker 2: got these bottles, how'd you sell them so fast? How'd
Speaker 2: you like market that so well?
Speaker 5: We talked about them on the pod and then what
Speaker 5: happened was we got lucky in a way that you
Speaker 5: want to get it out to everyone as quick as possible,
Speaker 5: But the fact that.
Speaker 4: We couldn't get into Canada. Canada has these crazy, especially Ontario.
Speaker 4: They have like the LCBO where they regulate all the
Speaker 4: liquor that comes into the province LB for.
Speaker 2: Thank you very much.
Speaker 4: So they like it's Ontario really controlled. So but all
Speaker 4: of a sudden, because it was in Pennsylvania or it
Speaker 4: was in Massachusetts and the few states it was in
Speaker 4: and we're talking about and people are putting it on
Speaker 4: social that like the fact that they couldn't get it
Speaker 4: like helped us.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know where it was like it was really
Speaker 5: building up, like we want that, we want that. So
Speaker 5: I think that that really kind of helped. And then
Speaker 5: you know, Canadians are drunks, so you guys are My
Speaker 5: wife said it was like probably listenership.
Speaker 4: I think our listeners are fifty to fifty. I think
Speaker 4: it was a good Yeah, it is a good thing.
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 5: I've been ripping on Canada for their COVID ship. It's
Speaker 5: a pathetic country right now. But it's still fifty to fifty.
Speaker 5: I think for for listenership, I would say it is
Speaker 5: definitely my wife's from BC.
Speaker 4: Is she yeah? She love No. No, I wouldn't say so.
Speaker 4: Oh fuck, bro, that's who's you guys? Who's guys? Who's
Speaker 4: your guys? Dream interview you it's done.
Speaker 2: Fucking did it, and I have a lot weren't done
Speaker 2: after this.
Speaker 4: I appreciate that. I'll come on anytime anytime he's playing.
Speaker 4: He doesn't want to come on, you call me. I'll
Speaker 4: hop on for a week.
Speaker 2: I'd love to just knowing the fall during football. You
Speaker 2: literally told you that he's so hard to get ahold
Speaker 2: of it.
Speaker 4: But no, I do this nor right.
Speaker 2: People will all be like, hey, anything you need for me,
Speaker 2: just let me know, just call me him and they
Speaker 2: call me and I don't.
Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, I'm busy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Taylor was like in Europe a drinking whiskey.
Speaker 5: Let's see how similar we are? Are you bad at
Speaker 5: Are you bad at drinking? I mean I'm drinking, Jesus.
Speaker 5: Are you bad at texting people back? I get texts.
Speaker 4: I don't return text but but do you do it?
Speaker 4: I read better. I read the text and then I'm like, oh,
Speaker 4: I'll respond later.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you put the phone down or I'll be
Speaker 2: in the responding me. I'll be responding and I'll put
Speaker 2: it down and then I'll go back to their text
Speaker 2: four days later and I have the text written now
Speaker 2: it just hasn't sent.
Speaker 5: I went to text the guy the other day and
Speaker 5: I saw it a text from August twelfth. I was like, sorry,
Speaker 5: I missed this, which I think I did, but I'm like,
Speaker 5: this guy's gonna be like, how.
Speaker 4: The fuck do you miss it? Well, I know, but
Speaker 4: I have a couple of friends that are worse than me,
Speaker 4: and it pisses me off. I don't take it personal
Speaker 4: because I know how I'm it is. It is a
Speaker 4: scumbag move, but I don't I don't mean it.
Speaker 5: It's just it's just like the kids sometimes they yeah,
Speaker 5: the kids get in the way, beliving my children.
Speaker 4: All do your kids foreign? One? I'm four and one.
Speaker 2: We are a lot of lights girls, two girls.
Speaker 4: Two boys. They can run after it perfect conscious, let's not.
Speaker 4: You don't want me?
Speaker 2: Is like, uh, if we were in laws, what we
Speaker 2: would be Yeah, I don't know, father, father drink, Yeah,
Speaker 2: let's go. No, I would I beg I had to
Speaker 2: watch your sons. I sit in this couch with them
Speaker 2: fucking sleeping middle I.
Speaker 5: Never we had our kids when I was retired. It's
Speaker 5: gotta be hard playing with kids.
Speaker 2: So no, uh, it depends when you have kids. If
Speaker 2: you have kids right before season, were they born in
Speaker 2: the season or we're born. My kids were born in July,
Speaker 2: so the first six months of their life, I'm like low,
Speaker 2: Ki not around.
Speaker 4: And the tough this verst six months is like, Hi,
Speaker 4: I'm dead. Such a shitty move.
Speaker 2: Kind of my least favorite part of having kids like
Speaker 2: that verse six months, like just sleeping. My wife have
Speaker 2: fucking all times you's gonna see us. So I have
Speaker 2: like gas, You guys get a nightmare all time we've
Speaker 2: had we have and I nurse every once in a while,
Speaker 2: but she gets up with those fucking kids, dude, and
Speaker 2: crushes it.
Speaker 4: Doesn't do a legend during the season. Legends. Absolutely, It's
Speaker 4: amazing because I get it. I get two hours with
Speaker 4: those kids and I'm like, oh my god, I'll tell
Speaker 4: you hours a day with them. Yeah. The hardest thing
Speaker 4: about having kids.
Speaker 2: The hardest thing about having kids, uh while you're playing
Speaker 2: is when you spend six months you don't want to
Speaker 2: see them wause you're so focused on football or hockey.
Speaker 2: When the season ends, you're in you're like you're like
Speaker 2: integrating back into their life and it's like you kind
Speaker 2: of don't know where you fit. And there's like a
Speaker 2: couple of week period where like I had this anxiety
Speaker 2: because I think I have to be doing something, like
Speaker 2: why am I at the house all day?
Speaker 4: I have to go work out, I have to go
Speaker 4: do this.
Speaker 2: And it's like you got nowhere to be, you nowhere
Speaker 2: to be right now, you gonna be I And then
Speaker 2: it's like, you know, I tell my daughter something, she's like,
Speaker 2: Mommy says, is okay, I'm like fuck, really all right?
Speaker 2: Well go ahead then and then then she's played me,
Speaker 2: and then she actually wasn't allowed to do that, like
Speaker 2: I got played by my oldest all Win Rebel. That's
Speaker 2: her my oldest name, man Win Rebel, the one dude
Speaker 2: she name.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, i'll tell you hynn Oh. I like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, her grandfather, that's she's named after Tale's grandfather.
Speaker 5: I love the well I shouldn't say I love like
Speaker 5: I get home from these work trips to go on.
Speaker 5: We probably do like a four or five night trip,
Speaker 5: I don't know, six times a year. We got our
Speaker 5: shoot hockey tournaments. We go do interviews, and so I
Speaker 5: miss the kids so much. But when I get home
Speaker 5: after the four or five nights where you got your
Speaker 5: own bed, you're sleeping in, I get home, I'm like
Speaker 5: game on. It's like it's hard, right, Like it's kind
Speaker 5: of the end of the season for you, where you
Speaker 5: you know, works like difficult.
Speaker 4: But then you get home you're like full time dad mode.
Speaker 4: This is fucking im bosson.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then but you start playing like the victim
Speaker 2: mode in your head where it's like, why don't I
Speaker 2: get a break?
Speaker 4: Everybody else needs to do this, everybody else is to
Speaker 4: do that. My shoulders, Like you don't even play hockey anymore,
Speaker 4: you pussy? Yeah is that to your face?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, closed me a place every day in my
Speaker 2: life with your mood about.
Speaker 4: Your aches and pain, nobody gives a fuck. I'm like
Speaker 4: him with you, like this house for this house, like
Speaker 4: my past is paid for this vacation.
Speaker 1: Honey, dude, that's so fucking true. Before we get off,
Speaker 1: talk about your relationship with the Dave Fortnoy.
Speaker 4: Oh he's a peasant. No, Dave's.
Speaker 2: You always getting on a show and you guys just
Speaker 2: go toes all the fun. Yeah.
Speaker 5: I think I think we're kind of similar in terms
Speaker 5: of like really loving the like going at one each other,
Speaker 5: one another, or not even.
Speaker 4: Going at one another, going at anyone.
Speaker 5: I kind of enjoy like the I'd rather have a
Speaker 5: podcast where going at each other than we're like, oh,
Speaker 5: lovey dovey, and so he's kind of like that. But
Speaker 5: I remember I first got to know him through like Twitter,
Speaker 5: like I was a big fan of barstool, like thought
Speaker 5: he was hilarious, and then started somehow like you know,
Speaker 5: maybe a couple of tweets back and forth to each other,
Speaker 5: and then I remember being like, all right, well he
Speaker 5: wrote me one time he's like, when are you gonna
Speaker 5: come work for me?
Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm gonna fucking work for you.
Speaker 5: Like I took it like personally, and I think that
Speaker 5: he probably saw like, all right, well i'm gonna give
Speaker 5: it to this guy. He's gonna give it back, and
Speaker 5: it's a pretty good thing.
Speaker 4: But then as Barstool grew and grew and like everyone
Speaker 4: just sucks his dick and kisses his ass, it's like,
Speaker 4: fuck you, dude. You're five foot seven. You couldn't you were.
Speaker 5: Good in high school baseball, but you talk about how
Speaker 5: athletic you were, but.
Speaker 4: I'm six four.
Speaker 5: I'll dumb you in any sport, and you're trying to
Speaker 5: big time everyone. So I love the guy, but I
Speaker 5: know in every aspect besides like maybe comedy and like
Speaker 5: growing a business. I'm better than him, Seriously, why don't
Speaker 5: you take everything except for like a business or like
Speaker 5: he's pretty funny, but there's times I can even go
Speaker 5: total toe.
Speaker 4: With him in funniness.
Speaker 2: But I love him in funniness.
Speaker 4: In funniness, like you want to be funny day, But
Speaker 4: we were talking about like humor and like if you're
Speaker 4: good at it. And I also remember like so so
Speaker 4: I was like, like I said, I was, I love barstool.
Speaker 4: So I was driving the old Milton office.
Speaker 5: I actually live like probably a mile or two from
Speaker 5: there now, but at the time, like all my buddies
Speaker 5: were grew up in Milton and I ended up living there.
Speaker 5: So I was driving through there and I saw him
Speaker 5: walking across the street. There's like a hardware store across
Speaker 5: from their old office, and.
Speaker 4: I was like, poor Noah, you fucking bidget. And he's
Speaker 4: like carrying, like what do you used to eat all
Speaker 4: the time? Panera? And he's carrying He's like looking around,
Speaker 4: He's like who's that? Like this fucking guy. But I've
Speaker 4: always thought I've always.
Speaker 5: Thought he's one of the funniest people. He's one of
Speaker 5: the funniest people in the world. And then so I've actually,
Speaker 5: you know, been really thankful for him.
Speaker 4: I've told him that too, like because without Barstool, it's
Speaker 4: what everyone says, like, oh, Chickles is a monster. I'm like,
Speaker 4: Chickles is nothing without Barstool, I can.
Speaker 5: Openly admit it because we had these their their fan
Speaker 5: base as listeners.
Speaker 2: You know, it's like if we're Sties, your fucking heart.
Speaker 5: Yes, Stueys are unbelievable, most loyal fan fan base in
Speaker 5: the world. And and I think that with Dave, like
Speaker 5: he wants guys to give it back to him, Like
Speaker 5: he doesn't want people to kiss his ass, but naturally,
Speaker 5: with how big he's become, that's just how it is.
Speaker 4: But fuck him, Oh do his will kind of kiss
Speaker 4: his ass? Man, it's tough to watch ship.
Speaker 2: Well, you just nudged over at me.
Speaker 4: No, I did. You don't want that.
Speaker 2: It's a hard deal to watch them. He was on
Speaker 2: this podcast.
Speaker 4: No, I think you know he was on the bus.
Speaker 4: I think with everybody, you're just a nice guy. Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, Actually, as far as goddamn I keep going back
Speaker 1: and forth on you, I'm flippping hard.
Speaker 2: You can go uh, as far as like a camaraderie guy,
Speaker 2: like a locker room guy. There's no one better I've
Speaker 2: ever met in my life who gets wrong, gets along
Speaker 2: with everybody, even if he doesn't know somebody or he
Speaker 2: knows he's met them before. He's like, what's up, dude,
Speaker 2: good to see you, and like dap him up and
Speaker 2: like you can just tell that person's like, yeah, Will
Speaker 2: loves me. It's like, well doesn't well doesn't even know
Speaker 2: know you at all? What are you talking about?
Speaker 4: Commenting you?
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you got to like I don't give a
Speaker 2: fuck about the person.
Speaker 1: No, you care about people. But it's like when you
Speaker 1: come in with the energy, it's not like you're getting
Speaker 1: that there's special.
Speaker 4: He's lying to you right now side. I want to
Speaker 4: shake his hand. He goes, not get in here, buddy warm.
Speaker 4: I was like, I love Will Compton.
Speaker 2: It all changed and his teeth change before when.
Speaker 4: He hugged me at the littlest fucking guys. White ships
Speaker 4: are one of those numbers right now. Yeah, Christ yeah,
Speaker 4: those things are thirty k. They look great though fifteen
Speaker 4: Jesus got the half off the NFLP.
Speaker 2: Dude, I wish NFLP. I was that fucking useful, fucking
Speaker 2: trash dog. See what the old ties he had the
Speaker 2: buddy out to. People say they wouldn't just suck.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but but old teeth you were winning people over
Speaker 4: near as fast. You were kind of like, Yeah, people
Speaker 4: took me in a fan somewhere. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: We're just kids live. He's like that guy's really nice. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but don't take his candy.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like, if he gives you
Speaker 2: a drink, don't drink it.
Speaker 4: People lean the tailor. Hey, how do you get in
Speaker 4: here with you?
Speaker 2: Fucking Hey, dude, I remember when he first got this season.
Speaker 2: I never even noticed how bad will guy in.
Speaker 4: Something about Mary's I hate.
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, he's the well he would act like nothing
Speaker 1: even happened.
Speaker 4: Just looking up when you're around me all the time. People.
Speaker 4: If I didn't think it, but I'm taking selfies, look
Speaker 4: at that. I think this comes up on every pod.
Speaker 4: Let me tell you put that put the top row middle.
Speaker 4: You look like you went from meth head to like
Speaker 4: successful podcaster.
Speaker 1: It's so funny you said that because back in Nebraska,
Speaker 1: my boy, where are you from Missouri?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, exactly. I got a mastery of looking mouth.
Speaker 1: But when I played in Nebraska, somebody had tweeted, will
Speaker 1: come and look like he's a methadict, and my boy
Speaker 1: Nick had saved that tweet forever.
Speaker 4: So the left one get chipped. Tell me it got chipped?
Speaker 4: Were you born like that? With the.
Speaker 1: No I was chasing my little brother around the house.
Speaker 1: I tripped and fell into a door, went face versus
Speaker 1: the door chipped. It stared at myself in the mirror
Speaker 1: as I held it and just looked at myself and
Speaker 1: started crying.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 4: Those yeah, gum, the nice one. But here's the thing
Speaker 4: that was the post. People will be like, oh your teeth, Like, dude,
Speaker 4: why wouldn't you do this if he didn't like your jibs?
Speaker 4: They look amazing now the best investment I've ever fucking
Speaker 4: bro without a doubt.
Speaker 2: And when he got him done, he comes he tells
Speaker 2: me we're working out. It's the summertime, and he's like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get my teeth done.
Speaker 4: I take a sevel with you, Like, bro, why, like,
Speaker 4: who cares? He's all I got my new teeth done.
Speaker 2: I'm like, dude, your teeth, others teeth weren't that bad
Speaker 2: because you don't even you don't realize, like I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't look at you and be like, eah, you
Speaker 2: know all right, small hands, I don't look at that.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: It's just life now. And he fucking goes and shows
Speaker 2: me a picture of his teeth like this picture. I'm like,
Speaker 2: that's what they looked like yesterday.
Speaker 6: That was down there.
Speaker 1: The third row is what I posted, Like I said,
Speaker 1: like cable television, direct TV, they'll see where i'mre on
Speaker 1: the white teeth third row.
Speaker 5: Oh that they look great though honestly they Portno, I
Speaker 5: just got a guy from Rougher roading new teeth.
Speaker 4: Oh and you could tell oh I saw that. It's
Speaker 4: like change his life crying. Yeah, like you could you would, Yeah,
Speaker 4: it changes fucking everything. You look at that, bro, dude,
Speaker 4: you were like a Now you're like a seven and
Speaker 4: a half. No, you gotta give me. Yeah, I didn't
Speaker 4: have solid it is. But you know, I'll tell you though,
Speaker 4: like my ears are huge. I got one hugely, but
Speaker 4: I would you can fix teeth, but like you can't
Speaker 4: touch ears. If I got my earpin back, I'm not
Speaker 4: the same person if you can turn a pin back.
Speaker 4: You're saying they stick out.
Speaker 5: We got a spit and chicklets memes. Guy, he's so funny,
Speaker 5: so funny. He just started doing stuff online. We found
Speaker 5: him like the hilarious memes. And I told the story
Speaker 5: recently I lost my iPods and air pods and he
Speaker 5: put like the funniest picture of like basically, uh uh
Speaker 5: it was. It was an air pod. Somebody was holding them.
Speaker 5: Was like the size of your leg. He's like, WIT's
Speaker 5: air party lost. It was like this motherfucker.
Speaker 4: We found my guy. Know he tortures me.
Speaker 2: Bro, Why don't you you get pin your ears if
Speaker 2: you want it. If you can turn into I'm not
Speaker 2: doing do whatever you want.
Speaker 4: You can pin your ears. Oh bro, you can take
Speaker 4: a penis and turned into a vagina and vice versa.
Speaker 4: You can do whatever. That's a good point. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: You want a dolphin arm, you go and get your
Speaker 2: dolphin arm.
Speaker 4: He already want now. Yeah he had the dolphins. Whatever
Speaker 4: the fuck you want, dude, that's crazy. Shut up.
Speaker 2: Lgbtquan buddy, fucking come at me, dude.
Speaker 4: I'm chill. I'm chilling hill easy guys. Yeah, I'm not
Speaker 4: Davids in the army.
Speaker 5: Just don't come at the bus on the boys. Yeah, Hey,
Speaker 5: I had a buddy. I played with Jordan Everley. He
Speaker 5: was in Edmonton. Now he's in Seattle and he's got
Speaker 5: a wicked gap in his teeth and we were like, oh,
Speaker 5: you gotta get it fixed. And he kind of says like, no,
Speaker 5: but this is who I am, and I get you.
Speaker 4: Everyone knows him. It is like he's got the gap
Speaker 4: in his teeth. But at the same time, cut off
Speaker 4: fucking mes jeeth. So you had to do it.
Speaker 1: And everyone was telling me, bro, don't do it, like
Speaker 1: this is you, this is who you are, your personality,
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. I swear every fucking body bro like,
Speaker 1: don't do it.
Speaker 4: I was like, you not even say anything.
Speaker 2: Youone looks at you with those set and goes, no, dude,
Speaker 2: this is you, this is yours. Now you need to
Speaker 2: fucking hit them and break up with them as a friend.
Speaker 4: Kick and the fucking stomach. This this is me. I'm
Speaker 4: not he will Oh my god, he fixed his team.
Speaker 4: No he went back, joke.
Speaker 2: No, he fixed them when he first when he first retired.
Speaker 2: He fixed him. This dude, makes twenty million dollars a
Speaker 2: year right now. Isn't that crazy?
Speaker 4: You know, way more than is probably making close to
Speaker 4: fifteen ten million is He was on the Lions. Now
Speaker 4: he's on the morning show for like CBS. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, dude,
Speaker 4: he's Good Morning Football forever something about the Russian invasion.
Speaker 4: I'm like, what the fuck? Yeah, dude, he was. He
Speaker 4: is unbelievable.
Speaker 2: He was on NFL Networks Good Morning Football, like him,
Speaker 2: k Adams, the who's the fucking Pete Pete Schrager and
Speaker 2: then Kyle Brandt, Right, I get all this right, Oh,
Speaker 2: good ship, bro, all the boys Wow, is awesome. All
Speaker 2: of them are awesome. But they he was a part
Speaker 2: of that before he went to do that, and he
Speaker 2: was a pro. I on the show a couple of times.
Speaker 4: Killers. Yeah, you could tell right away, like he's talented,
Speaker 4: kild for him. It doesn't matter what you did prior.
Speaker 5: If Straighthand and Burlston are on like ABC in the
Speaker 5: morning now, like that's just talent.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: But but but the only reason I thought of him
Speaker 5: is because they're they're probably making yeah, fifteen twenty a lot.
Speaker 4: We're almost making seventeen a year, dude, even just reup shit,
Speaker 4: he probably shouldn't because there isn't a whole players not
Speaker 4: making that. You think, I mean the guy calling the
Speaker 4: game making more money than but everybody in the team
Speaker 4: TV deals bro.
Speaker 2: For real, magafee megay right. Well, it's like I think
Speaker 2: it's crazy, magae or agree with it. It's kind of
Speaker 2: like wild to think about. Like I don't have an opinion,
Speaker 2: and I'm happy for him.
Speaker 4: Because I don't. I never really like that's the thing.
Speaker 4: I never like guys make more money. Now.
Speaker 5: I like love when players get money and even after
Speaker 5: they play, like when they're okay.
Speaker 4: So it is like crazy when.
Speaker 2: You first got in the NHL where you like kind
Speaker 2: of selfish, like didn't want people to make money, because
Speaker 2: that's how I kind of was.
Speaker 4: No, No, I really it wasn't. That's all right, you
Speaker 4: living living this is me? Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was a selfish, fucking pricks the lamb in a
Speaker 2: lot of ways. No, this is your truth, man, and
Speaker 2: let me live.
Speaker 4: Yeah. But I always remember thinking like guys would sign
Speaker 4: deals and I was like, oh, if they signed that deal,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna get a big deal. See. I always thought.
Speaker 2: I'm better than that dude. I I'm better than him.
Speaker 4: Fuck, why's he getting paid? Not me? Boys?
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Speaker 1: were were you? You were top top ten on what draft?
Speaker 2: He was thirteen?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 4: I was eleven eleven? My bed what is your signing moments?
Speaker 2: Sat so fucking crazy? Bro, I had a shitty draft experience.
Speaker 2: Shitty draft experience. I Uh, were you the top old lineman?
Speaker 4: No? I was a third? Wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they took this dude, Greg Robinson number two.
Speaker 4: Oh, the kidd in guy in Cleveland. And he's a bust.
Speaker 4: He's a bust.
Speaker 2: He just went he's got busted for drugs again, like
Speaker 2: two weeks again. He had as yeah, huge bus. And
Speaker 2: then at six Atlanta was picking. Uh. They they told
Speaker 2: me like on Monday, like, hey, if you're there at six,
Speaker 2: we're gonna take you. In my head, I'm like, I'm
Speaker 2: for sure gonna be six. Like I'm for sure we'll
Speaker 2: be there.
Speaker 4: I'm going to Atlanta.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be a dirty bird in the green room.
Speaker 2: I was in the green room, dude, they fucking they
Speaker 2: go to pick I'm so stoked. I'm waiting for my
Speaker 2: phone to ring, and the two tables over. Jake Matthews,
Speaker 2: who's another offensive tackle, gets gets the phone call and ring.
Speaker 2: He fucking takes the call and in the green room,
Speaker 2: you're not supposed to stand up. I get up and
Speaker 2: I fucking walk out. You're that mad hot dude, and
Speaker 2: so hold on.
Speaker 4: Let me get this water.
Speaker 2: So uh, I get up and I go down this
Speaker 2: hallway like you gotta sit down, Like no, I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna sit down. And like in the green room was like,
Speaker 2: uh Rihanna, the dad from Modern Family, and uh I
Speaker 2: might have been Drake, Like you know.
Speaker 4: How you kind of place it up in your head,
Speaker 4: what's going on?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like a little squad in the middle
Speaker 2: of the hallway. And I met Rihanna like two nights before,
Speaker 2: and you know how, like you meet some some people,
Speaker 2: some times you're like, yo, I kind of less an
Speaker 2: impression in my head. I left that fucking impression at
Speaker 2: the forty forty I was like, well, I was hoping
Speaker 2: to God, but that wasn't really it maybe she'd like,
Speaker 2: maybe we can be friends and you can friend zone me,
Speaker 2: and then I'll be there when they get through a breakup,
Speaker 2: and then i'll be the guys you can console, and
Speaker 2: then we'll be cuddling one night and she'll feel it
Speaker 2: pressed against her hip, and then maybe something will happen
Speaker 2: that type of friendship. So I see her and she
Speaker 2: looks at me, and I swear to god she recognized me.
Speaker 2: I kidd me playing the big Fish story and she
Speaker 2: kind of looks at me and like turns, and I
Speaker 2: give her the and I keep walking to the bathroom.
Speaker 2: I fucking baked time around it because my feelings were hurt.
Speaker 2: I go in the bathroom and I'm looking in the mirror.
Speaker 2: I'm like, you're fucking bitch. You're probably not even get drafted,
Speaker 2: like you've been pumped. Oh where the focused Ashton Kutcher at, Yeah,
Speaker 2: you're not You're gonna be nothing.
Speaker 4: And then no, seven, eight, nine, ten weren't going to
Speaker 4: be taken whole lineman like oh no, no, no no.
Speaker 2: Like the next one was like, I think Tampa Bay
Speaker 2: and they needed an offensive lineman Like I was just
Speaker 2: hot because I felt lied to and you know you
Speaker 2: take everything personally.
Speaker 4: When you're little, find out why would they say that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, it's so funny you asked that. One of
Speaker 2: the guys who was like an upstairs dude came and
Speaker 2: spoke to me during camp. He was like no longer
Speaker 2: in the league, as like an upper guy, and and
Speaker 2: he's like, hey, I was from the Falcons, like we
Speaker 2: loved you. I was like, why the fuck didn't you
Speaker 2: guys take me?
Speaker 4: Like what's the deal? And he goes.
Speaker 2: I think at the end of the day, like you
Speaker 2: were like from a talent level, like athleticism better than Jake,
Speaker 2: but like he had too many off.
Speaker 4: The field issues. You wrent off the field issue, Oh
Speaker 4: yeah I had.
Speaker 2: I had assault cases. I had an unch of stuff.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Fights in college, Yeah, dude, I fucking put some guy
Speaker 2: down something like that. We beat We beat a house state,
Speaker 2: which is like the Bigan Michigan. Ohiose state levelry and
Speaker 2: you know all about that, and we're gonna start. We
Speaker 2: lost Ohio State and yeah, we beat Ohio State three times.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, uh that pig Whitney and I We're going
Speaker 2: to like this brother, this place called the Brown Jug
Speaker 2: and I'm walking out of the Brown jug Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: fucking killer. Do you know Perry, the guy who owns it,
Speaker 2: his son played uh, and he was living went to
Speaker 2: Pioneer and also playing stuff like that.
Speaker 4: Anyway, I'm going to.
Speaker 2: The Brown Joe, like my my girlfriend at the time,
Speaker 2: my best friend from high school and my brother like
Speaker 2: getting out of the cab and walking in and some
Speaker 2: dudes on a megaphone talking shit, talking about fuck ah
Speaker 2: fuck Michigan, a house rips all this stuff. Whilst with
Speaker 2: this story so many times, doesn't give a fuck. He
Speaker 2: just wants to be on the phone.
Speaker 1: He's texting like I'm in the best ever wet I
Speaker 1: got a I got a dinner thing at eight, so I'm.
Speaker 4: Oh for a while, Holy shit, I got a dinner thing.
Speaker 4: So this dude, I don't care. I'm like, I'm like
Speaker 4: twelve deep. I just had like a.
Speaker 2: I'm like twelve year I had a bunch of Hams
Speaker 2: Hams beer.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, whatever I'm going in there, I'm gonna.
Speaker 4: Get fucked up.
Speaker 2: And Uh, this dude hip checks a pole and fucking
Speaker 2: eats it, and my brother starts like laughing at him,
Speaker 2: pointing in his face. And he's twenty nine years old
Speaker 2: and him and his four buddies around pushing my brother,
Speaker 2: and uh, my girlfriend at the time was like, hey,
Speaker 2: your brother's gonna get your boys about to get a fight.
Speaker 2: So I walk out there and fucking hit hit him
Speaker 2: so hard he hits the ground and spins it a circle.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, I fucking killed him.
Speaker 4: He's dead.
Speaker 2: And so I went going back, going back in the
Speaker 2: brown jug and I'm sitting there like super panics. I'm like,
Speaker 2: I gotta go back out there.
Speaker 4: Killed the guy. Yeah, I just killed the guy. I
Speaker 4: walked back out. Guy who I hit? Awake.
Speaker 2: There's a brito place right next to he's getting emburrito.
Speaker 2: It's totally fine.
Speaker 4: I'm good. Cops out there and I'm muffing them a punch. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Turns out my girlfriend snitched on me after I broke
Speaker 1: up with her, like three weeks later to a detective.
Speaker 4: Shut the f of god, dude, what she's mad? You
Speaker 4: gassed her? Yeah? Holy shit, you're a sweet girl.
Speaker 2: But just wasn't it.
Speaker 4: I didn't respect sure enough, I didn't respect wow. So
Speaker 4: then that case, that case, I'll cost you. So if
Speaker 4: you get drafted, if you don't drafted, six as the
Speaker 4: post eleven.
Speaker 2: How much money did you lose by four five million dollars?
Speaker 4: No? Yeah, I mean I guess you made eighty? Who guess?
Speaker 4: Sh Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I fucking signed eleven with Italians. I was fucking hot.
Speaker 2: Then they had two tackles, so I was like, what
Speaker 2: the fuck are they gonna do with me?
Speaker 4: And if we're all they did they trade one? Or
Speaker 4: did you just beat him out in camp?
Speaker 2: No, Michael or you ever seen the movie The Blind Sign?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: So him he was playing, uh was playing right tackle.
Speaker 2: Funny enough, and then Michael Ruse was like the left tackle,
Speaker 2: and uh, I didn't beat either of him out. I
Speaker 2: was fucking chilling on the sidelines and I had him
Speaker 2: like I'm a bust, like it's over for me. And
Speaker 2: then Michael Roose gets a he got like a micro
Speaker 2: fraction on his knee. Done for the season. Week five,
Speaker 2: Week six?
Speaker 4: Your boys in there.
Speaker 2: Wow, all rookie team crushed it. It was awesome.
Speaker 4: Wow. Just with ten games too?
Speaker 2: Yeah, well actually I played five because I got hurt
Speaker 2: in like the eleventh game, so I missed the last
Speaker 2: five games. The other big five.
Speaker 4: Games rookie team, Wow, that's crazy.
Speaker 2: Before we let you go because I know Will's got
Speaker 2: to go talk to us about like the stages of hockey,
Speaker 2: like because with football it's like a it's super easy
Speaker 2: to figure it out. You go high school, you know, college,
Speaker 2: you get drafted. If you don't get drafted, you go
Speaker 2: play like the Arena League or CFL, and he's hopefully
Speaker 2: figured it out.
Speaker 4: Guys make it to the show from that though, right
Speaker 4: you can Cameron.
Speaker 2: Wake who's a defensive end and play for the Dolphins.
Speaker 2: He didn't have it, he like didn't do anything, goes
Speaker 2: to the CFL, becomes like all CFL, like Canadian Football
Speaker 2: Player of the Year goes out of Miami. I think
Speaker 2: it's not like you arguing you got to be like
Speaker 2: an anomaly, Dad, you gotta be you gotta be a
Speaker 2: dude that just didn't get it, like has all the tools,
Speaker 2: that just didn't get it and then goes and gets it.
Speaker 2: We don't have like a sindown league, like what is
Speaker 2: it age l's we.
Speaker 5: Don't have an hockey is different because you get drafted
Speaker 5: at eighteen. So I kind of wish they did up
Speaker 5: the draft age a little bit because so college football,
Speaker 5: you got to go three years post graduate.
Speaker 4: From high school, right, So if your PC.
Speaker 5: You can leave after I'm sorry, if you're rector you
Speaker 5: can leave after your sophomore year.
Speaker 4: Yeah, But so hockey's different.
Speaker 5: So there's a lot more guys in hockey that our
Speaker 5: first round picked busts because they're eighteen and who knows
Speaker 5: in four years what they're going to be and drinks.
Speaker 4: A lot more third and fourth rounders who end up
Speaker 4: really good.
Speaker 5: Because like they were eighteen and they really grew in
Speaker 5: the next few years, not grew physically, but as a player.
Speaker 5: So I would say, like, you get drafted, and even
Speaker 5: if you don't in hockey, it's it's not over football.
Speaker 4: If you're not drafted, it's going to be hard. I
Speaker 4: sense really, but but I mean it's not that common.
Speaker 5: I feel like if you if you don't get drafted football,
Speaker 5: to end up making it in the NFL for many years,
Speaker 5: it is hard, right, So hockey hockey it's a beast.
Speaker 5: It's not as easy. But you know, you get drafted
Speaker 5: or you don't, and then you go and you're going
Speaker 5: to play junior college after that. Most everyone plays in
Speaker 5: the HL for a little bit. A lot of guys
Speaker 5: even start in the coast more and more. You're seeing
Speaker 5: guys start in the East Coast Hockey League making it
Speaker 5: to the NHL because the league's getting better and better,
Speaker 5: and then you work your way up, you get your
Speaker 5: shot in the NHL and that's it. But the problem
Speaker 5: with NHL now is or not now. But I mean,
Speaker 5: you're a young kid, and you know, you're fifteen, sixteen
Speaker 5: years old. If you're not a high pick in the OHL,
Speaker 5: which is junior hockey, there's OHL Quebec League and the
Speaker 5: WHL for Canada. Then there's NCAA for America, and kids
Speaker 5: from Canada I can play in CAA.
Speaker 4: And vice versa.
Speaker 5: But a lot of those kids, like you know, they
Speaker 5: get down it's like, oh, I wasn't a first round
Speaker 5: pick in the OHL. It's like, dude, you're fifteen years old,
Speaker 5: Like it doesn't really matter. So I think in the NHL,
Speaker 5: though you get to the first round, it means a lot.
Speaker 5: You can end up making more with your signing bonus.
Speaker 4: Not that much.
Speaker 5: They really change the signing bonus and the money you
Speaker 5: can make, but you get more chances being a high pick.
Speaker 5: It's like the NFL, right, like you're a high pick,
Speaker 5: you're gonna get more lives like a cat, and then
Speaker 5: if you're a low pick, it's like, if you fuck up,
Speaker 5: you're kind of screwed. So the levels of hockey, though,
Speaker 5: it's just changing with how watered down, like different leagues
Speaker 5: are in the US harder Now it's more confusing on
Speaker 5: where to play if you're a young kid. When I
Speaker 5: was young, it was like, all right, go to one
Speaker 5: of these high schools, then go to college. Now it's
Speaker 5: like junior league here, junior league in Midwest. There's a
Speaker 5: Canadian league. It's just harder to choose.
Speaker 4: But it's still like if you're good enough, to tell
Speaker 4: every kid, if you're good enough, dude.
Speaker 5: You're gonna make it. What's the best route, we'll find you.
Speaker 5: I personally think college is the best route. And Mark Reki,
Speaker 5: he's an NHL Hall of Famer.
Speaker 2: You leave after one year in college, you can yep,
Speaker 2: you can leave after you can leave it for one year,
Speaker 2: and you've already been drafted before you go to college.
Speaker 4: Some kids, because their birth year will be like drafted
Speaker 4: after freshman year.
Speaker 5: But for the most part, I talk to guys who
Speaker 5: played junior it's great, but you're living with billet families
Speaker 5: and you're busting long ass bus rides, especially in the
Speaker 5: western part of Canada. Like, you know, you got eighteen
Speaker 5: hour bus rides. College, Like you're living in a dorm
Speaker 5: with girls.
Speaker 4: You're playing unreal.
Speaker 5: You're playing unreal hockey. You're playing against older guys too.
Speaker 5: You know, college has twenty twenty two year old players.
Speaker 5: So if my my kids like hockey and they're any
Speaker 5: good and they have a chance to play college hockey
Speaker 5: or play junior I'm gonnay go play college.
Speaker 4: And I left school early. I actually promised my parents
Speaker 4: i'd graduate and I haven't.
Speaker 5: I got to go do that. I fucking have to
Speaker 5: do that. I promise that school college. I left this
Speaker 5: for my junior year, and I'm like, well, now I
Speaker 5: have a degree, all this money, I'm already Unfortunately I do. Yeah, dude,
Speaker 5: you went back.
Speaker 2: Unfortunately I do. No, dude, I were able to say
Speaker 2: I stayed for my fifth year.
Speaker 4: Michigan's a legit school. Yeah, fifteen school in the world.
Speaker 4: Crazy Billet family is like a like Foster care type thing. Yes,
Speaker 4: So wherever you go play, I mean it's a little different,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: You go to like you go to like a family
Speaker 5: who stays with you. Yeah, host family, Okay, family's in
Speaker 5: the city you play in that will take in kids
Speaker 5: and it's funny. One guy, one guy, I won't say
Speaker 5: his name. He ended up marrying his billet mom.
Speaker 4: She left. I won't say that again.
Speaker 5: Guy the guy's name, he billeted with a family. She
Speaker 5: had her husband and in the end she left him
Speaker 5: and him and her got married. What's his name, I'm
Speaker 5: not saying.
Speaker 4: And then there's another guy, another guy played another guy
Speaker 4: who played with another guy I played with who married
Speaker 4: his billet's sister. Which I always say, is like, I mean,
Speaker 4: if I'm a dad, like dude.
Speaker 5: In fourteen years, no, no, bro, go down that road
Speaker 5: and your daughter's sixteen, Are you gonna take an assist
Speaker 5: he comes over? People are nuts. You gotta say, you know, daugh,
Speaker 5: you're gonna a six year a hockey player in your house?
Speaker 4: No thanks?
Speaker 2: Is it kind of like not that uncommon that billet
Speaker 2: sons bang the moms or sisters.
Speaker 4: I think a normal thing. I think it is not
Speaker 4: that common. I think, really, I do not think. I
Speaker 4: think it's a bunch. I think there's a bunch of stories.
Speaker 4: But in terms of like here being common. Okay, it's
Speaker 4: not that common.
Speaker 5: Put it this way, my bill mom kicked me out,
Speaker 5: Chovies didn't want to bang me, pinned back my ear boys.
Speaker 4: Thank you so much the pleasure to be on here
Speaker 4: busting with the boys. I love a little drink whistle
Speaker 4: pig piggy bag. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Also, yeah, man, don't drink pink with me me, and
Speaker 2: then make sure you get some whistle whistle pig whistle
Speaker 2: pig outside