1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to Noble Blood, a production of I Heart Radio 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 1: and Grim and Mild from Aaron Mankie listener discretion advised. 3 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: In nineteen thirty one, a socialite named Ethel Margaret Wigham 4 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 1: held her nineteenth birthday party at the Embassy Club, one 5 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: of London's most exclusive supper clubs at the time. It 6 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: was the kind of place where film stars and royalty 7 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: co mingled, and Margaret was the center of it all. 8 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:40,319 Speaker 1: She was the beautiful, wealthy daughter of a Scottish business man, 9 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: and after her coming out as Debutante of the Year 10 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 1: in nineteen thirty she soon became a darling of London 11 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: society thanks to her glamorous fashion and her aura of confidence. 12 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:56,959 Speaker 1: According to legend, the knight of the birthday party, Margaret 13 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: had an astrologer predict her future. I see happiness, laughter, 14 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: much love, but beware there is danger. Danger from what 15 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: Margaret asked, treachery. The astrologer replied, you will be betrayed 16 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: by the people you trust. Flash forward thirty years and Margaret, 17 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: then fifty years old and the Duchess of Argyle, arrived 18 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:30,199 Speaker 1: at court wearing a tailored peacoat, mink rap and pearl earrings. 19 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: She was there to begin the divorce proceedings from her 20 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:37,559 Speaker 1: second husband, the Duke of Argyle, which would end up 21 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: being the longest and costliest divorce proceedings British history had 22 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: ever seen. The couple had met after Margaret's divorce from 23 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: her first husband, American businessman Charles Sweeney, but it soon 24 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: became clear that Margaret had found another doomed match. The 25 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: Duke was filing for divorce from his wife on the 26 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: grounds of adultery, alleging that Margaret had taken eighty eight 27 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: lovers in their time together, a list of lovers that 28 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: included cabinet ministers, Hollywood actors, and royals. It was a 29 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: tabloid frenzy, not only thanks to the couple's titles and 30 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: the breadth of the accusation, but because of the voyeuristic 31 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: intimate details that were being made public. Margaret later described 32 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: her second husband as quote in every essence a Gemini Gemini. 33 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: People are usually two faced, aren't they? You should never 34 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: trust them? Charming and treacherous. The story of the Argyle 35 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 1: divorce and the story of Margaret's life are both complicated 36 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 1: ones to tell. It's hard to separate the truth from 37 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 1: the tabloid narrative, and it's hard to discern what the 38 00:02:55,120 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 1: truth even is at all. Margaret's recountenances are filled with contradictions, misrememberings, and, 39 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 1: according to some outright lies. In more recent years, there 40 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: have been attempts to reframe Britain's view of Margaret with 41 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: our modern understanding of issues at play, like sledge shaming 42 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 1: and ideas about revenge porn. Last year, the BBC aired 43 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: the drama A Very British Scandal, which sought to paint 44 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 1: a more nuanced, insightful portrait of the inner lives of 45 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 1: the subjects at the heart of the scandal. But as 46 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: you might imagine, television is meant to entertain, and the 47 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: show still provides all of the sensationalized scandal that you 48 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: might hope for from its title. Perhaps in the end, 49 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: that's the only way you can really do justice to 50 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: the story of the woman who thought of herself as 51 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: a sensation. Later in life, Margaret would reflect quote, I 52 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: had wealth, I had good looks. As a young woman, 53 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: I had been constantly photographed, written about, out, flattered, admired. 54 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: Included in the ten Best Dressed Women in the World 55 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: list and mentioned by Cole Porter in the words of 56 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: his hit song You're the Top, The top was what 57 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: I was supposed to be. That last claim is actually 58 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: only a half truth. In the original version of his 59 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 1: song for the musical Anything Goes, Cole Porter never wrote 60 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: a line about Margaret. The original lyric of the song 61 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 1: and the one that is used today goes You're an 62 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: O'Neill drama, your Whistler's Mama, great charming. But in there 63 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: was a British production of Anything Goes with some of 64 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: the lyrics anglicized by P. G. Woodhouse. Today, that one 65 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 1: production is a curio of history with lyrics that sound 66 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: not only less relevant but downright confusing to some listeners today. 67 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 1: Whatever you're expecting the ang a sized lyric to be, 68 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: it's probably not this, But the PG Woodhouse couplet goes 69 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 1: your Mussolini, your Mrs Sweeney. Mrs Sweeney, of course, referencing Margaret. 70 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: Any person who could share a lyric with Mussolini, where 71 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: audiences would think, yes, those two people are of the 72 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:28,919 Speaker 1: same cultural cash a certainly deserves our historical examination. Unfortunately, 73 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: for all of the glamor of Margaret Wigham Sweeney Campbell's life, 74 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: there was also a twisted undercurrent of pain and a 75 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: now all too modern story about how tabloid media builds 76 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: women up just to tear them down. I'm Danish sports 77 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 1: and this is noble blood. Margaret was the only child 78 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: of George Wigham, the millionaire chairman of the Selling Ease Corporation, 79 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: and his wife Helen. Though Margaret was born on her 80 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 1: maternal grandparents estate in a sleepy Scottish town a few 81 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 1: miles outside of Glasgow, Margaret's first memory of a home 82 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: was the Park Avenue apartment in New York City, where 83 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 1: she spent much of her childhood. Margaret recalled having no 84 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: friends as a girl, preferring to keep the company of 85 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: teddy bears. When she wasn't with the Teddy's, she preferred 86 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: the company of her parents. As the only child of 87 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: a wealthy family, she became spoiled and close with her 88 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: doting father. Her relationship with her mother was more difficult. 89 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 1: Margaret would later recall that she would enter her mother's 90 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: bedroom each morning, not knowing if she was going to 91 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 1: be quote bright and loving or complaining and bad tempered. 92 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 1: As Margaret grew up, her mother became obsessive over her 93 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: daughter's appearance. The fixation with looks likely came from Helen's 94 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: own childhood insecurities from never feeling like she was attractive 95 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: enough compared to her siblings. The constant attention given to 96 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: Margaret's looks, even though it was negative, made the young 97 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: Margaret a self described vain little girl. Her mother also 98 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: took issue with Margaret's developing stammer, which began after she 99 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: was forced to start writing with her right hand, even 100 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: though she was naturally left handed. Margaret was taken to 101 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: London to be treated by Lionel Log, the same speech 102 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: therapist who helped King George the sixth manage his stammer, 103 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: who you might have seen portrayed by Jeffrey Rush in 104 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: the movie The King's Speech. The real Lionels methods proved 105 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: ineffective on Margaret, much to her mother's disappointment. Margaret would 106 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: later recount her mother telling her, no matter how pretty 107 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: you are, Margaret, you will get nowhere in life if 108 00:07:55,760 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: you stammer. As Margaret grew older, the effect of a 109 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: childhood without hearing the word no from her father began 110 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: to cement in Margaret's personality. She believed that anything could 111 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: be bought, and she had little respect for authority or 112 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: for any adults who weren't her parents. Though Margaret was 113 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: beginning to physically appear older and present herself as more sophisticated, 114 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: she still doated on the teddy bears from her childhood, 115 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: much to her mother's chagrin. One day, Margaret forgot to 116 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: bring her teddy bears inside from the lawn and found 117 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: them the next morning soaked and destroyed. She would consider 118 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 1: this the spiritual end of her childhood. Margaret's mother soon 119 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: gave her the talk, which Margaret recalled as going something 120 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 1: like quote, it's this awful thing we women have to 121 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,319 Speaker 1: put up with, we close our eyes and bear it. 122 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: Margaret had no desire to hear about this, and the 123 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: discomfort with the topic of sex stuck with her for 124 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: some time. Margaret's parents thought she was growing up too fast, 125 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 1: and so she was transferred to the Heathfield School, where 126 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: girls learned academics, played lacrosse, and attended twice daily prayer. 127 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 1: None of that interested Margaret, who detested the school's expectations 128 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: of conformity. She once retreated from her peers and noted 129 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: that she had no friends at the school, proclaiming, quote, 130 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 1: I don't like women in a mass I think they 131 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: should be individuals. Margaret was brought to and from school 132 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: every day in a chauffeur driven Rolls Royce, which probably 133 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: provides some indication as to how her fellow students saw her. 134 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: Margaret felt that the disdain with which the other girls 135 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: treated her was earned simply because she was much more 136 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: sophisticated than them. As the car drove away, she shouted 137 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: bye bye, girls. Enjoy your hockey and your lacrosse. I'm 138 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: off to a matinee in London. She She was at 139 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: the school for only two months before her family was 140 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: forced to make a decision. Margaret could live at the 141 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 1: school as a boarder or she'd be forced to leave, 142 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:15,319 Speaker 1: so she left and began learning from a governess. During 143 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: that time, Margaret found her passion for boys. She was 144 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 1: surprised to find they liked her speech impediment, seeing it 145 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: as a vulnerability they could care for, something she described 146 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: as a cold comfort. When Margaret was fifteen, her family 147 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 1: spent the Easter holiday at Benbridge on the Isle of Wight. 148 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:38,559 Speaker 1: It was there she met David Niven, a seventeen year 149 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: old public schoolboy and future Oscar winning actor. Margaret became 150 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: infatuated and soon lost her virginity to him. Even once 151 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: she returned home from the vacation, she couldn't stop thinking 152 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: about David, and she roped a friend into sneaking off 153 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: to London with her to visit him, an incredibly bold 154 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: move for a woman, let alone a fifteen year old 155 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: girl of the time. Her rebellious streak came to a 156 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: sudden halt when she learned she was pregnant. Her father 157 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 1: was furious and all hell broke loose in the house. 158 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 1: This was the nineteen twenties and teen pregnancy is still 159 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: taboo today. Margaret underwent a secret abortion and no one 160 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: was to speak of the quote incident again. In ninety nine, 161 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 1: Margaret and her mother began preparing for Margaret's debut as 162 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 1: a debutante, despite being a year younger than the typical 163 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: deb Margaret reflected that quote, my mother must have realized 164 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: that there was no holding me back. On May one, 165 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: nine thirty, the first day of the London Social season, 166 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 1: Margaret's coming out party was held. Their bold choice to 167 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:57,439 Speaker 1: kick off the season was backed up by an unlimited 168 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: dress budget. They were determined to make a splash. Margaret's 169 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 1: popularity with boys, while recently traumatizing to her family, led 170 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: her mother to see Margaret in a new light. Margaret 171 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: was no longer simply the stuttering, plain looking creature who 172 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: seemed so foreign to her. The nineteen thirties wave of 173 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: debutantes favored women like Margaret, bright and bold, fashionable and modern. Quote. 174 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 1: The girls of the nineteen thirties not only had good looks, 175 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: they knew how to dress, and they had far more 176 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: self confidence than their predecessors. Margaret would later reflect. Margaret's 177 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 1: party cost forty thousand pounds and entertained four hundred guests. 178 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: She made her entrance to the sound of a big 179 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: band orchestra, and she was dressed in a Norman Hartnell 180 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:55,199 Speaker 1: turquoise dress embroidered with diamonds and pearls. Her mother had 181 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: insisted that she wear white, the traditional color for debutantes, 182 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 1: but Mark Gret wanted to stand out from the others. 183 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 1: She purposefully stained the white dress that her mom had 184 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: bought for her, which of course forced her to change 185 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: into the turquoise one. The dresses designer, Norman Hartnell would 186 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: eventually become dressmaker to Queen Elizabeth the Second, and Margaret 187 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: would credit herself with Hartnell's rise to fame, and we 188 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: can't say she's entirely wrong. She was a bona fide sensation. 189 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: One Society column summed it up by saying, quote, she's 190 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: shown out above everyone else, as is fitting for the 191 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: heroine of such an evening. Throughout the season, at just 192 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: seventeen years old, she became one of the most photographed 193 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: women in London, and magazines called her the prettiest debutante 194 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 1: of the set. Margaret's celebrity was on the rise, and 195 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 1: her mother, Helen began to grow exhausted by the number 196 00:13:56,000 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: of different invitations her daughter received. Eventually, Helen stopped going 197 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 1: with her altogether, leaving Margaret to attend events unschaper owned. 198 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:09,559 Speaker 1: It was during this time that Margaret developed what she 199 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 1: called the Wigham system. She danced with any boy who 200 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 1: asked her for the first half of the night, decide 201 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: her favorites, and then dance only with them for the second. 202 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: The men didn't mind, but other debs began to refer 203 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: to her as quote that Maggie Wigham. That year, she 204 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: also began to frequent clubs like the Embassy with a 205 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: different number of men, including the Prince Ali Khan, who 206 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: tried to marry her side note he would later marry 207 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: Rita Hayworth. And Margaret also developed a sizeable friend group 208 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: of other society women. One of the men she would 209 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: eventually charm was American businessman Charles Sweeney, who claimed to 210 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: initially dislike her. I could not stand her, he wrote 211 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: to me. She was a conceited, garrulous show off whose 212 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: company I avoided as much as I could. Their mutual 213 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: friend groups made encounters unavoidable, and one night, due to 214 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: them both ending up without a partner, they agreed to 215 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: be each other's dates to the Embassy Club. Sweeney would 216 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: write that that night changed everything. He quote fell under 217 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: the spell of Margaret Wiggham's charm. After a few more dates, 218 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: Charles Sweeney unofficially proposed, and she accepted. This meant the 219 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: world to him, but little to Margaret, who didn't see 220 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 1: proposals as real commitments. The proof is in the fact 221 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: that she soon also became unofficially engaged to their friend 222 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: Max Aitken. Neither of the men knowing about the engagement 223 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: she had to the other. Eventually, despite a third, more 224 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: formal engagement being thrown into the mix, Margaret had begun 225 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: to see more of Sweeney, who was hurt by her 226 00:15:54,880 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: betrayal of multiple engagements but still harbored feelings. Once Margaret 227 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: had officially broken off the other engagements, she and Charles 228 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: Sweeney became officially engaged. The wedding date was set, and 229 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: her time as quote the Wigham as the press called her, 230 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: was coming to an end. The wedding was a glamorous affair, 231 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: so many onlookers and members of the press wanted to 232 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: see her heart n all dress, which featured an eighteen 233 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: foot train embroidered with orange blossoms that surrounding traffic was 234 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 1: blocked for three hours. The literal traffic stopping dress was 235 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: recently displayed at the Victoria and Albert Museum. After the wedding, 236 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: Margaret would become pregnant, but it would be the first 237 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: in a series of miscarriages, of which there would be 238 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 1: eight total. During a later pregnancy, Margaret became so ill 239 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: that the baby had to be delivered still born in 240 00:16:55,640 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: order to save her life. Margaret fell into a deep depression, 241 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: both from the loss of the child but also from 242 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 1: Charlie's absence, despite staying at her side throughout her illness, 243 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: as she recovered, he would visit her briefly in the 244 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 1: hospital each night before heading out to a club. While 245 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:19,439 Speaker 1: it would still be a while before their divorce, that dynamic, 246 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 1: no doubt reaffirmed Margaret's feeling that Charlie Sweeney did not 247 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 1: see her for the person she was. That quote, all 248 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 1: he wanted for a wife was a pretty brainless doll. 249 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 1: She tried to be that for the next several years, 250 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: but as World War Two began, their focus was torn 251 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: away from their personal conflicts, and each contributed in their 252 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 1: own way to the war effort. While the couple did 253 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 1: eventually have two children together, the tears in their marriage 254 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:53,679 Speaker 1: were forever evident. Both of them committed adultery, but neither 255 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 1: would accept the blame for the dissolution of the relationship. 256 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: In the pair officially divorced, Margaret was thirty four years old. 257 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 1: In the wake of the Second World War. The London 258 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: social scene was just beginning to return, and Margaret was 259 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 1: now ready to return with it. She would find the 260 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 1: next major phase of her life beginning not in London, though, 261 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 1: but on a train to Paris, where she would be 262 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:27,679 Speaker 1: seated across from a tall man with a pointed nose 263 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 1: she'd come to learn that his name was Ian Campbell 264 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:34,360 Speaker 1: and that he would soon be the Duke of Argyle. 265 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: He already knew who she was, apparently over a decade earlier, 266 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: he had seen Margaret on the staircase of a London nightclub, 267 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: and he turned to his wife at the time and said, 268 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: quote that captivating creature is the woman I'm going to 269 00:18:53,160 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 1: marry someday. Ian Douglas Campbell was penniless but titled. His 270 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 1: great grandfather was the eighth Duke of Argyle, and thanks 271 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:10,679 Speaker 1: to the ninth and tenth not having sons, Ian inherited 272 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 1: his family's title and home in Verae Castle from his 273 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: second cousin, the eleventh Duke of Argyle, was a bit 274 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 1: of a mad academic, and his neglect of the castle 275 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: in favor of other pursuits saw it fall into ruin. 276 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: That meant that Ian also inherited the responsibility of restoring 277 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 1: the estate. For this he depended on his wife Janet 278 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: and then his second wife Louise, both heiresses. Ian himself 279 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 1: never worked and was addicted to alcohol, drugs, and gambling. 280 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:49,160 Speaker 1: Even before his dukedom, he was in deep debt. Both 281 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:52,360 Speaker 1: of his wives would later accuse him of abuse and 282 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: squandering their money. Years later, his future son in law 283 00:19:56,840 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: would describe him as quote one of the cold list 284 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:05,640 Speaker 1: nastiest men I've ever known in a wild cameo. That 285 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: future son in law also just happened to be the 286 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: writer Norman Mailer, who if you know anything about Norman Mailer, 287 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,360 Speaker 1: you know that he might have given Ian a run 288 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 1: for his money in the bad husband department. But back 289 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: to Ian and Margaret. When the pair met, they were 290 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 1: both recently single, Ian and his wife having separated after 291 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: the war on the ground of mutual adultery. I can 292 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: imagine that pointing out other women he wanted to marry 293 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: while the two were together didn't help. On that train 294 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 1: ride to Paris where they met, Margaret was a sympathetic 295 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 1: listener to ian struggles, and he to hers. Ian had 296 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: been a prisoner of war and he was readjusting to 297 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 1: a life of freedom. Both were starved for connection. Margaret 298 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 1: invited Ian back to her home as soon as they 299 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: arrived in London, and there they slept together for the 300 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: first time. Margaret soon began to pursue Ian with the 301 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 1: intention of marriage. Her first husband, Charlie, would later write 302 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 1: in his memoir quote, she had always been intrigued by 303 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 1: the idea of becoming a duchess Ian. By this point, officially, 304 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 1: the Duke was still in the process of persuading Louise 305 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:24,239 Speaker 1: to agree to an official divorce. He was thrilled by 306 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 1: Margaret's pursuit of him. This time, he didn't have to 307 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: do the work of finding an heiress himself. Their courtship 308 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 1: was largely secretive due to his status as technically a 309 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 1: married man and hers as a divorcee. One night, they 310 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 1: attended a West End play together, Ring Round the Moon, 311 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: about a twins attempt to rescue his brother from what 312 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: he believes will be a disastrous marriage. In hindsight, it 313 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: seems like an omen that evening, Ian proposed to Margaret 314 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,679 Speaker 1: with the promise that as soon as the divorce with 315 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 1: Louise was finalized, she would be his duchess. Of course, 316 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: Margaret accepted. Ian's charm worked on Margaret's parents just as 317 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,919 Speaker 1: it had on her. They were impressed with his title, 318 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 1: and they were excited at the prospect of their daughter 319 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: becoming a duchess Ian. Even immediately charmed George into becoming 320 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: a patron of the Campbell clan. And he pledged twenty 321 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: five thousand pounds towards Inveray's restoration, with no return expected. 322 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:34,439 Speaker 1: Margaret herself was determined to bring the castle back to 323 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 1: its former glory, and she blamed much of its current 324 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 1: disarray on Louise, his ex wife, and not Ian himself. 325 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 1: For Margaret and her father's donations, they received a deed 326 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 1: of gift which will come back to bite her later. 327 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: But in nineteen fifty one, Louise finally agreed to the divorce, 328 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: but with Ian about to be officially mark it, he 329 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: began to reveal his true colors for the first time. Unprompted, 330 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: one night, he launched into a verbal attack on Margaret's children, 331 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: her father, even Margaret herself. The next morning, she asked 332 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: him what had provoked his rage, which only sent him 333 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: into another tirade. This was just days before their wedding. 334 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,640 Speaker 1: She felt that it was too late to back out, 335 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 1: and she was too ashamed to tell her father, who 336 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: she knew would tell her to call off the marriage 337 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 1: and prioritize her happiness, the advice that he had given 338 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,679 Speaker 1: her during one of her earlier engagements. Plus there was 339 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: the guilt that Margaret felt about the money they had 340 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:47,439 Speaker 1: already sunk into Ian's castle, so Margaret wrote it off 341 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: and went through with the marriage. On the eve of 342 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 1: Margaret and Ian's wedding, she received a letter from her 343 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: ex husband, Charlie, warning her not to marry Ian. Charlie 344 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: had spoken Louise, who had told him of Ian's opportunistic 345 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 1: scheming and his mistreatment of her and their sons. Charlie 346 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 1: Sweeney wrote quote, I only hope you're not deluding yourself 347 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 1: that Campbell is inspired by any great love, because he's not. 348 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:22,400 Speaker 1: Margaret ignored this letter, thinking that both Charlie and Louise 349 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: were jealous bitter xes. Margaret and Ian were married on 350 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: March twenty second, nine six hours after the divorce with 351 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 1: Louise was official. It was a smaller ceremony, a far 352 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,919 Speaker 1: cry from Margaret's first wedding. This time, she wore a 353 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: gray chiffon dress with a pussy bow, a feathered hat, 354 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: and her signature set of pearls. The two honeymooned at Inverie, 355 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: and she spent the time in workman's overalls. Immediately following 356 00:24:56,080 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: through on her promise to help restore the castle, post 357 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 1: of Margaret's work was unfruitful in very ray was beginning 358 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 1: to seem like a lost cause. The money she was 359 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 1: putting into the castle was also being put towards Ian's debts, 360 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,880 Speaker 1: which she learned about upon their return to the home. 361 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 1: As much as Margaret cared about restoring the castle, she 362 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 1: was not suited to life in the countryside, and it 363 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,959 Speaker 1: was agreed that Margaret would keep her home in London 364 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: for social visits. As you might have predicted, Ian's character 365 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: didn't improve after the wedding. He would often get into 366 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 1: public altercations, and Margaret spent much of their time together 367 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 1: in public apologizing for him. His verbal abuse eventually escalated 368 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: into physical violence, and during a trip to Jamaica, Margaret 369 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:54,439 Speaker 1: remembers an acquaintance having to rush into their room to 370 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: stop Ian from physically attacking her. Margaret attempted to prevent 371 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: her husband from drinking so often, hoping to return him 372 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 1: to the man she originally knew. She offered to recreate 373 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: his favorite club Whites, in their home so that he 374 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 1: could avoid the party atmosphere, but he bitterly explained that 375 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 1: he went to the club to escape her. Ian began 376 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: to belittle her in front of her friends and As 377 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:27,479 Speaker 1: a result, her stammer started to worsen, which made it 378 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 1: difficult for her to speak up for herself. Margaret later 379 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: wrote that quote Ian had a markedly sadistic streak in 380 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 1: his character. Things like that were done deliberately to hurt me, 381 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:44,439 Speaker 1: and hurt me they always did. I realized now that 382 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 1: if I had not given him the satisfaction of knowing this, 383 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: Ian would have been deprived of much pleasure. Their relationship 384 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: was complicated by Ian's manipulative nature and Margaret's willingness to 385 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 1: make excuses for it. Quote out, he toyed with me 386 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: as a cat plays with a mouse. Every time he 387 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: sent that I had come to the end of my tether. 388 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 1: He would then choose to become his most agreeable self, 389 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: ready to do anything to please me. Eventually, after three 390 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: years of marriage, in Veray was ready to open to 391 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:22,120 Speaker 1: the public for tours. Ian took his role as duke 392 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 1: seriously and spent his days greeting visitors and leading tours. 393 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,199 Speaker 1: Margaret was hopeful that he had turned a new leaf, 394 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: but when the tourist season ended, he reverted right back 395 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 1: to his old cruel ways. Margaret decided to take a 396 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 1: trip abroad and their lives and eventually homes became separate. 397 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 1: They remained married, but Margaret considered nineteen fifty six to 398 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: be the real turning point for the rest of her life. 399 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: This is where things take a turn for the soap operatic. 400 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 1: The divorce wasn't actually the first legal proceeding that would 401 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 1: make the Argyle's headlines. That was actually a libel suit 402 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 1: against Margaret from Ian's secretary. Van McPherson was the widow 403 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 1: of a man who had been a prisoner of war 404 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: with Ian, and so their connection between Ivan and Ian 405 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:24,159 Speaker 1: went beyond the typical employer employee relationship. Vaughan's loyalty to 406 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 1: Ian was so apparent that Margaret began to believe that 407 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 1: the two were conspiring against her. Margaret's assessment that Ian 408 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: could do something drastic wasn't entirely out of nowhere. Ian 409 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 1: had recently recovered from influenza, but had become addicted to 410 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: drena mill, a drug that was so widely abused in 411 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 1: the UK at the time that it's no longer prescribed. 412 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 1: The drugs led to bouts of erratic behavior and mania. 413 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 1: We don't know if Margaret's suspicions about Vane were accurate, 414 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 1: but Ian was in act plotting against her with his 415 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 1: doctor to have her certified as insane. Years earlier, Margaret 416 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 1: had fallen down an elevator shaft and the pair in 417 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: and his doctor wanted to claim that it had caused 418 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 1: brain damage. To do so, they needed a note from 419 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 1: Margaret's doctor, who had refused and informed her of their plan. Margaret, 420 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 1: even having her paranoia validated, continued just to blame her 421 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 1: husband's actions on the adrenalmal and so loyal as ever 422 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 1: to her husband, Margaret focused on the belief that Yvonne 423 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 1: was the one speaking to the press. She later claimed 424 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 1: that the proprietor of the Daily Mail told her that 425 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 1: Yvonne was on the books for years, but there's no 426 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 1: actual evidence. Margaret was so convinced in fact, and so 427 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: determined to prove her case that she sent in a 428 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 1: fake telegram pretending it was from Van. It read quote 429 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 1: rushing off for and days, but all as ready as 430 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 1: we planned to tear strips off Margaret financially and otherwise 431 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 1: A million thanks for your love, support and invaluable information 432 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 1: without which I would be helpless. Happy Easter and then 433 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 1: into battle side by side a Vaughan. Ian asked Margaret 434 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 1: to apologize. She refused, and soon she received a letter 435 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 1: notifying her that Van was suing her for damages. In 436 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 1: nineteen fifty nine, Ian and Margaret took a trip to 437 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 1: Australia on ducal duty. There, Ian discovered the diary that 438 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 1: Margaret had kept for the past three years. Inside were 439 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: the names of half a dozen men and a meticulously 440 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 1: recorded schedule that showed each time she had met with them. 441 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 1: When Margaret discovered him with the diary, he accused her 442 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: of cheating, and she didn't deny it. How could she 443 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 1: really Ian flew home alone in the next day and 444 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: their marriage was effectively over. Instead of following her husband 445 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 1: back to England, Margaret extended the trip to New York. 446 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 1: Ian took the opportunity to go through Margaret's belongings in 447 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 1: their home. He hired a locksmith to break into her 448 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 1: cupboards and stole her letters, diaries, and a Manila folder 449 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: addressed to her. Inside were some notes of no consequence 450 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 1: and two polaroid photos which would go on to become 451 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 1: the central scandal that would mar Margaret's legacy for the 452 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 1: rest of her life. The photos showed Margaret performing oral 453 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 1: sex on an unidentified man who would become something of 454 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 1: a folk legend as quote the Headless Man. Although Margaret's 455 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 1: back is to the camera, she could easily be identified 456 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 1: by her signature, pearls and hairstyle. Wrapped around the photographs 457 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 1: were sheets of paper reading before during oh and finished. 458 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 1: The polaroids, inflammatory as they were, didn't anger Ian as 459 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 1: much as another piece of paper he found On a 460 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 1: sheet of hotel parchment, Margaret had pasted fragments of words 461 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 1: cut out from innocuous letters written by Louise, Ian's ex 462 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 1: wife and the mother of his children. The excerpts, which 463 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: included Louise's signature, were arranged into a fake letter in 464 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 1: which she is questioning the paternity of her and ian sons. 465 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 1: It seems that Margaret, in an attempt to save her 466 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 1: status as Duchess, was seeking to discredit the legitimacy of 467 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 1: Ian's sons from his first marriage and then have her 468 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 1: own child with him. Or rather, Margaret was trying to 469 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 1: fake a pregnancy by patting her stomach and later pass 470 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 1: off a child as Ian's. She asked a Polish friend 471 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 1: to bring her a baby to England. Don't be stupid, 472 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 1: dear was the friend's response, and Margaret abandoned the plan, 473 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 1: Although she kept all of the incriminating evidence. This was 474 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 1: the final straw for Ian. He wasn't a particularly involved father, 475 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 1: but his wife had crossed a clear line. Margaret was 476 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 1: furious when she returned home to see that Ian had 477 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 1: stolen her possessions, but she had yet to realize that 478 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 1: he had also discovered her drafts of the forged letters 479 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 1: from Louise. So when Margaret went through with the plan 480 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 1: to quote find these letters and show them to Ian, 481 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 1: it resulted in her second libel suit, this time from Louise. 482 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 1: Ian knew that he had sufficient grounds for divorce, but 483 00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 1: he still needed the smoking gun, the diary that he 484 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 1: had found in Australia. He devised a plan with his 485 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 1: daughter Jean to raid Margaret's house for it. At six 486 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,479 Speaker 1: in the morning, they entered her home using a key 487 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 1: that Ian had kept. Not having found what they were 488 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,839 Speaker 1: looking for in the study, they entered her bedroom, where 489 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 1: Margaret was still sleeping. The noise woke her, and when 490 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 1: she asked what they wanted, Jean held her down to 491 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:30,400 Speaker 1: the bed while Ian stole the diary from her bedside table. 492 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 1: The two fled the scene immediately. Ian swiftly notified Margaret 493 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 1: that his divorce petition was sent to the Court of 494 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 1: Session in Edinburgh, and he informed her that she was 495 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 1: now banned from Inverary Castle, which was only functioning because 496 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 1: of her father's money. She would make sure that Ian 497 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 1: remembered that, and soon she visited with her father and 498 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 1: his new wife, Jane, who he married after Helen passing 499 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 1: several years earlier. In perhaps the most bizarre accusation yet. 500 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 1: During that trip, Margaret noticed Jane and Ian spending time 501 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 1: alone together and concluded that they were having an affair. 502 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 1: Margaret's paranoia was no doubt fueled by her view of 503 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 1: Jane as an interloper in her and her father's relationship. 504 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 1: After that trip, Margaret remained persistent in her assertion that 505 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 1: she had a right to live in Inveraray, despite her 506 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:36,320 Speaker 1: clear distaste for country life, and so Ian formally acquired 507 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:40,400 Speaker 1: an interdict banning her from the castle. Margaret was given 508 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:44,320 Speaker 1: one day to retrieve her belongings and identify what was hers, 509 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 1: as decreed by the deed of gift she and her 510 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 1: father had received at the time of her engagement to Ian. 511 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 1: Margaret would soon learn that the deed, like much of 512 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 1: her early impression of her husband, was a facade. Ian 513 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:03,919 Speaker 1: had more gagged everything on Margaret's deed in nineteen forty nine, 514 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:08,400 Speaker 1: before they had even been married. Margaret's deed was worthless. 515 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 1: In February of nineteen sixty two, Margaret and Ian arrived 516 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:18,360 Speaker 1: at the Edinburgh Court of Session. The courtroom was packed 517 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 1: to capacity, with both British and foreign press, all eager 518 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 1: to see what would become of the Duke and the 519 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:31,760 Speaker 1: quote dirty duchess. Presiding over the case was Lord Wheatley, 520 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 1: a judge known for his harsh sentences for crimes involving sex. 521 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,400 Speaker 1: He also happened to be a member of the Campbell 522 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 1: clan on his mother's side. The trial began with Ian 523 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 1: presenting his evidence. Margaret's lawyer rejected the use of her 524 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:52,799 Speaker 1: diary on the grounds of confidentiality, but wheatly approved it 525 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 1: and it remained the key piece of evidence. Ian was 526 00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:01,880 Speaker 1: cross examined for five hours. Margaret was cross examined for thirteen, 527 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 1: while Ian ultimately accused her of sleeping with eighty eight men. 528 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,800 Speaker 1: There were three who were brought into the trial. Baron 529 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 1: Sigmund von Braun, a former Nazi and then West German 530 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 1: ambassador to the u N John Cohene, an American businessman, 531 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:24,440 Speaker 1: and Peter Combe, the former chief press officer at the 532 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 1: London Savoy Hotel. Worth noting is that of the eighty 533 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 1: eight men that the Duke claimed he could list, a 534 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 1: number were actually gay. Margaret didn't want to out her 535 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:40,280 Speaker 1: friends at a time when homosexuality was still a criminal offense, 536 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:44,719 Speaker 1: and so she didn't defend herself against the accusation. Of 537 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 1: the three men who were brought into question, only Comb 538 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 1: denied an affair. Margaret confessed she had an affair with 539 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,400 Speaker 1: von Braun, who was married, but it had happened before 540 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 1: her own marriage to Ian. As their letters were not dated, 541 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,960 Speaker 1: the court couldn't conclude that she was lying. The evidence 542 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 1: against Kohene was also too weak to utilize. That left 543 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:12,280 Speaker 1: Comb the sole defender present in court. He was twelve 544 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,839 Speaker 1: years younger than Margaret and she knew his mother, so 545 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:20,720 Speaker 1: Margaret claimed the relationship was strictly platonic. What she didn't 546 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 1: know was that Ian had hired a private investigator to 547 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 1: watch her, and the investigator had taken photographs of Comb 548 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,960 Speaker 1: leaving her house in the early hours of the morning. 549 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 1: Margaret argued that Comb was helping her to take care 550 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:38,360 Speaker 1: of her beloved French poodles, but the judge dismissed that 551 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 1: claim with the belief that Margaret would have entrusted that 552 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:46,799 Speaker 1: task to servants. Having gone through the diaries and the letters, 553 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 1: only the polaroids, those pieces of evidence that would follow 554 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:54,920 Speaker 1: Margaret for the rest of her life remained. Initially, Margaret 555 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 1: denied she was the one in the photographs, insisting they 556 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:02,080 Speaker 1: were from Ian's pornography. Collect once the court was able 557 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 1: to identify that it was in fact her due to 558 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:10,120 Speaker 1: the specificity of the necklace and hair, she admitted that, yes, 559 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:14,400 Speaker 1: it was her, but she claimed the headless man was Ian. 560 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 1: This story wasn't bought, but to prove that it wasn't him, 561 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:24,760 Speaker 1: Ian underwent a medical examination. It provided a win in court, 562 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 1: but a loss in self esteem. As Margaret's biographer put 563 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:32,400 Speaker 1: it quote, Ian had to live with the humiliation of 564 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:39,440 Speaker 1: publicly declaring his lesser dimensions. Margaret never revealed the identity 565 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,960 Speaker 1: of the headless man, but it has been the topic 566 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 1: of speculation for years. Was he a Hollywood actor politician? 567 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:50,799 Speaker 1: The British press debated for years it even prompted a 568 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:54,399 Speaker 1: personal investigation from the Master of Roles at the time, 569 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 1: who came up with a scheme to compare the handwriting 570 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,360 Speaker 1: of government men he suspected as potential culprits to the 571 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 1: handwriting on the captions of the Polaroid. It was a 572 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:10,000 Speaker 1: fruitless attempt. Ultimately, Ian was granted a divorce from Margaret 573 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,760 Speaker 1: on ground of adultery with Peter Comb in May, three 574 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:18,040 Speaker 1: months after the proceedings began. Margaret was not present when 575 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 1: Lord Wheatley read his fifty thousand word judgment, a reading 576 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:28,240 Speaker 1: that lasted three hours and ten minutes. Ian was there, though, 577 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:31,960 Speaker 1: and he heard the judge his distant cousin describe his 578 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:36,480 Speaker 1: now ex wife as quote, a highly sexed woman who 579 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:40,319 Speaker 1: had ceased to be satisfied with normal relations and had 580 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:44,080 Speaker 1: started to indulge in what I can only describe as 581 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:51,640 Speaker 1: disgusting sexual activities to gratify a basic sexual appetite. Years later, 582 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 1: in a rare interview, Margaret would reflect on Wheatley's judgment quote, 583 00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:00,280 Speaker 1: I thought he was such a bastard. You don't attack 584 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:05,000 Speaker 1: if you're a judge, you judge, she said, mimicking balancing scales. 585 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:10,560 Speaker 1: It was the longest and costliest divorce Britain had ever 586 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:14,959 Speaker 1: seen up until that point. Margaret was ordered to pay 587 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:19,439 Speaker 1: seven eighths of the cost. Ian paid just one eight, 588 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:23,919 Speaker 1: seeing as that was all he could afford. Ian's own 589 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,760 Speaker 1: adultery was of little concern to Wheatley or the public 590 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:31,799 Speaker 1: at large. Margaret was given all sorts of nicknames in 591 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:38,680 Speaker 1: the press, all crude and none particularly clever. Quote dirty duchess, 592 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:44,000 Speaker 1: blowjob duchess, fallacio duchess. Some of the headlines at the 593 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:49,120 Speaker 1: time read such dirty linen in high places or She's 594 00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:53,840 Speaker 1: a poisonous liar. Margaret was one of the earliest targets 595 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:58,960 Speaker 1: of the British presses relentless vitriolic vexation on a noble woman, 596 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,919 Speaker 1: a relation ship from the British press that we've seen 597 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:05,200 Speaker 1: in more recent years with women like Diana, Princess of 598 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:12,600 Speaker 1: Wales and Megan Markle. Calling Margaret a liar wasn't untrue. 599 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,760 Speaker 1: She had lied to Ian, and she had lied in court, 600 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:21,160 Speaker 1: but the press went steps beyond steps too far. Later 601 00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:24,839 Speaker 1: in life, Margaret, who had been a tabloid star since seventeen, 602 00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:29,000 Speaker 1: reflected that she had seen a drastic shift in the 603 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:33,800 Speaker 1: tabloid presses level of professionalism and their treatment of celebrities. 604 00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:39,640 Speaker 1: In a very British statement, she remarked, quote, they've become 605 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:45,080 Speaker 1: very unkind to put it quite mildly. Just three weeks 606 00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:49,560 Speaker 1: after the divorce was finalized, Ian married an American heiress 607 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:51,960 Speaker 1: with whom he had been having an affair for the 608 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:56,040 Speaker 1: past two years. He and the heiress remained together until 609 00:42:56,200 --> 00:43:00,360 Speaker 1: his death in ninety three. Over the core of the 610 00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:04,240 Speaker 1: years following the divorce, Ian sold the right to publish 611 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:08,840 Speaker 1: his and Margaret's private letters. His thirst for revenge, even 612 00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,520 Speaker 1: after he had won in court, would come back to 613 00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:15,719 Speaker 1: bite him. His beloved club Whites, where he had once 614 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:20,880 Speaker 1: went to quote escape Margaret voted him out on grounds 615 00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:25,680 Speaker 1: of poor conduct. As for Margaret, she never remarried, but 616 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:29,000 Speaker 1: she continued to live her life as she always had. 617 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:34,239 Speaker 1: This included more men, more scandals, more legal conflicts, and 618 00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:38,920 Speaker 1: more poodles. It's possible the poodles were maybe the truest 619 00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:43,000 Speaker 1: loves of her life. When she eventually began to run 620 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:47,319 Speaker 1: out of money, she opened her London home up for tours. 621 00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,960 Speaker 1: She was later forced to move into a suite in 622 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,560 Speaker 1: a hotel, and when she couldn't pay that rent, she 623 00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:57,040 Speaker 1: moved into a nursing home, where she ultimately passed in 624 00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:02,479 Speaker 1: nine she was eighty one years old. Two years later, 625 00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:06,800 Speaker 1: an opera based on her life and divorce, titled Powder 626 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:10,960 Speaker 1: Her Face, premiered. To sum up his work, the composer 627 00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:16,640 Speaker 1: Thomas A. Day quoted the phrase, even horrible people are tragic. 628 00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:25,319 Speaker 1: That's the story of the Duchess of Argyle. But stick 629 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:50,720 Speaker 1: around to hear Margaret in her own words. So much 630 00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:54,200 Speaker 1: of Noble Blood is me attempting to create portrayals of 631 00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:58,840 Speaker 1: historical figures that are nuanced and empathetic but not fawning. 632 00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,680 Speaker 1: I always try I to frame a story to be 633 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:06,359 Speaker 1: true to the fundamental humanity of the people involved. No 634 00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:10,400 Speaker 1: one is all good or all bad. Everyone is products 635 00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:14,600 Speaker 1: of their environment and experiences. But because this is a 636 00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:19,359 Speaker 1: history podcast, often we're constructing our versions of figures from 637 00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:23,640 Speaker 1: history from multiple sources. Sometimes, if we're lucky, we get 638 00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,840 Speaker 1: their own writing, but usually it's from the writing of 639 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:30,840 Speaker 1: other people around them. My goal with this podcast is 640 00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:34,239 Speaker 1: always to give voice to people from the past who 641 00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:37,719 Speaker 1: maybe we never thought about in nuanced terms. In the 642 00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,799 Speaker 1: case of the Duchess of our Gyle, we are afforded 643 00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:46,640 Speaker 1: a rare gift her actual voice. Thanks to the BBC Archives, 644 00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:50,160 Speaker 1: you can hear the Duchess actually speaking about her own 645 00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:54,600 Speaker 1: life and her scandalous divorce. I'm linking a video in 646 00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:57,759 Speaker 1: the episode description and I think it's well worth a 647 00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:01,520 Speaker 1: listen to try to understand one of the most impossibly 648 00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:19,040 Speaker 1: complicated women in history in her own words. Noble Blood 649 00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,719 Speaker 1: is a production of I Heart Radio and Grimm and 650 00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:25,239 Speaker 1: Mild from Aaron Mankey. Noble Blood is hosted by me 651 00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:29,800 Speaker 1: Danish Sports. Additional writing and researching done by Hannah Johnston, 652 00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:34,640 Speaker 1: hannah's Wick, Mirra Hayward, Courtney Sunder and Laurie Goodman. The 653 00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:38,880 Speaker 1: show is produced by rema Il Kali, with supervising producer 654 00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:43,600 Speaker 1: Josh Thane and executive producers Aaron Mankey, Alex Williams, and 655 00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:47,600 Speaker 1: Matt Frederick. For more podcasts from I Heart Radio, visit 656 00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:51,040 Speaker 1: the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you 657 00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:52,320 Speaker 1: listen to your favorite shows.