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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast doesn't know which day of
Speaker 1: the week it is. Welcome to another edition of the
Speaker 1: Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansens, and
Speaker 1: I'm joined in the city filled with heroes. Still in
Speaker 1: Bunker's up to thirty one folks, Mark Sessler, Chris Wesley,
Speaker 1: Greg Ross of all what's up boys? Okay, Dan, Well,
Speaker 1: I should say this is the thirty first Bunker cast,
Speaker 1: but according to one tabulation, this is the one thousand
Speaker 1: Around the NFL Podcast episode. Now how about that? Well,
Speaker 1: we are blowing it out as you can see it
Speaker 1: all all the you know, when you think a thousand episode,
Speaker 1: this is what it looks like. You know, I turned
Speaker 1: forty and the Bunker and it all it's only fitting
Speaker 1: that another milestone hits now where we're in the state, Um, Mark,
Speaker 1: did you ever think we'd get to a thousand episodes? Well,
Speaker 1: I mean at various points I thought different things. Um
Speaker 1: not when we started. But it's just because that seemed
Speaker 1: like no shows last that long. I mean, how many
Speaker 1: podcasts in our own media house coming gone? Um, we've
Speaker 1: outlived them. And yeah, when we got to about you know,
Speaker 1: six d or so, I thought, well, unless one of
Speaker 1: us was assassinated, Um, we're taken out. Um we're gonna
Speaker 1: do it. And you know we've had some run ins
Speaker 1: on that front too, but we're gonna, We're gonna, We're
Speaker 1: pushing on. I'm also feeling like a crazy person right now.
Speaker 1: So I don't well fame to say you've talked a
Speaker 1: lot about getting a fascinating assassinated by a female that
Speaker 1: you always specify that the fleet of comes up. I said,
Speaker 1: it comes up more often now, so that is a
Speaker 1: bit of a concern. Oh, I definitely want that to happen.
Speaker 1: We made it. That's not changed. We made it, and
Speaker 1: we had Mark along for the whole ride, and Ricky Hollywood,
Speaker 1: you've been with us for I'd estimate in the range
Speaker 1: of what two hundred shows are so now, so you
Speaker 1: are you must be at this point you might be
Speaker 1: the how you have to be the leader now for
Speaker 1: the producer that's produced the most episodes, Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 1: You know, we love having the great Ricky Hollywood. What
Speaker 1: best you know? Greg, here's the question. Yeah, will we
Speaker 1: do undred episodes together? Yeah? Two thousand West yes, Mark Sezler, Absolutely,
Speaker 1: I mean what else do we have to do at
Speaker 1: this point? Three thousand old Juicer? No, all right, well
Speaker 1: we'll see. It's been a great ride though, boys fifty
Speaker 1: years old dance. It took us what this is, six years,
Speaker 1: so not longer than that. Seven So that's yeah, one years. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we well we started in July, so we're coming up
Speaker 1: on Yeah, it'll be seven years, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, nineteen,
Speaker 1: seven years. I mean, let's be real here. We are
Speaker 1: the demographic people are searching for right now. So I
Speaker 1: mean another seven years feels like um an easy. Yes, well,
Speaker 1: now that I've aged out of my thirties now it's
Speaker 1: just it's just a bunch of forty something white pros.
Speaker 1: So we are getting to the point, like Oliver from
Speaker 1: Brady bunch or the little ginger boy from Different Strokes. Uh,
Speaker 1: and even listen to my pop culture references where we
Speaker 1: need to bring in someone younger, someone who looks different
Speaker 1: than us just to keep the show fresh. So that's
Speaker 1: something to think about. Maybe that's Erica. Maybe that's what
Speaker 1: Erica's roll ultimately is to give us that flavor, and
Speaker 1: maybe we need more to keep thriving or they just
Speaker 1: you know, replace us in mas you know, like for
Speaker 1: you know, late twenties, you know people, Oh yeah, that
Speaker 1: could happen as well. Its perilous reality. That's that is
Speaker 1: funny that me setting that up with you guys, as
Speaker 1: if we might have the ultimate decision how long this goes,
Speaker 1: we will not. I mean, if you can wipe out
Speaker 1: the Chicago Bulls and I finally dove into that series, um,
Speaker 1: and it's it's amazing, as you've all mentioned, I mean,
Speaker 1: if you can wipe those guys out, four white guys
Speaker 1: on a podcast fields killable and you know what, there's
Speaker 1: I don't think there's a Jerry Krause type figure upstairs
Speaker 1: and are right now, but there it's only amoutter of
Speaker 1: time for a cross rolls in and we might roll out.
Speaker 1: I feel like we survived a couple of crosses everything.
Speaker 1: Oh we have we survived sub crouses. Yes, um, anyway, yes,
Speaker 1: so if this is indeed one thousand and if it's not,
Speaker 1: it's got to be close. But according to one thing
Speaker 1: we saw, it is uh great to be around. And
Speaker 1: we got so many people reached out to us UM
Speaker 1: and said they've been a listener since the first show.
Speaker 1: So we've gotten many many listeners that have said they
Speaker 1: re listened to shows. They play the A t N
Speaker 1: podcast roulette where they just pick a show from a
Speaker 1: random year and re listen. Uh. So we are so
Speaker 1: happy to have you guys along for the ride with us.
Speaker 1: But now we spent forward. Today's show. Took a nice
Speaker 1: Monday off after the draft. That was nice. But now
Speaker 1: it's back to work and we are going to Now
Speaker 1: the draft is in the rear view mirror. If they might,
Speaker 1: teams might think they've found solutions, that they've solved all
Speaker 1: their issues, but the reality of the situation is that
Speaker 1: there are are unsolved mysteries connected to the NFL in
Speaker 1: the post draft landscape. I would really if I could,
Speaker 1: if we have the technology reanimate Uh what was his name.
Speaker 1: Where was the host Robert Roberts put him on the show.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'd also like him to take a deep,
Speaker 1: lengthy look into where the two Patriots ball boys are
Speaker 1: at this point. No one's heard from them in years, right,
Speaker 1: and I believe they're not above Brown great up idea
Speaker 1: reboot baby all right, But before that, let's get caught
Speaker 1: up on some news. One thousand Baby cantas Man Gregg
Speaker 1: at home is on the telephone setter around this hotel
Speaker 1: room podcast had Ricky Stu behind the glass heroes can
Speaker 1: I'm kicking world outside is burning too? At least it's
Speaker 1: not the Cleveland Browns. Then never stopped the podcast tracks
Speaker 1: keep turn on the World. Ah beautiful, beautiful composition about
Speaker 1: the show from an Irish listener, Mark Sessler. His name
Speaker 1: Hugh O'Connor, um what number one. I think we all
Speaker 1: thought that was an amazing job. I reached out to
Speaker 1: him just to get the videos for our show and stuff,
Speaker 1: and I mean he also couldn't be a nicer, nicer
Speaker 1: guy who is a longtime listener. And if like I
Speaker 1: think the lyrics, I had a few friends listening that
Speaker 1: they thought the lyrics just from from Wired to Wired
Speaker 1: to Wire were perfect. Let's um, let's play that whole
Speaker 1: song in in full at the end of tonight today's show. Uh,
Speaker 1: Hugh O'Connor shout out, you are to me better than
Speaker 1: Billy Joel. But that's not a high bar. All right,
Speaker 1: let's get into the news. What we got Billy Joel
Speaker 1: fans in the house. I mean, I I think there's
Speaker 1: respect that should be paid to the catalog he's produced.
Speaker 1: That a little bit. Come on. I know Greg feels
Speaker 1: way differently and despises Billy Joel's music. I heard. I
Speaker 1: heard a lot of it. It's too much of it.
Speaker 1: It's just one of those going to those guys your
Speaker 1: parents always played that you got absolutely sick of. So
Speaker 1: it's not really Billy Joel's fault. It's Tommy's, Debbie Rosenthal's fault.
Speaker 1: He's of a time and place. I don't think his
Speaker 1: music translates to the twenty one century. See he's just buried.
Speaker 1: He's not safe with you, and you shot an arrow
Speaker 1: through him. I respect what he put out in the eighties.
Speaker 1: It was great at the time. I like, I love
Speaker 1: the band Europe, but they don't really translate anymore, you know.
Speaker 1: I think it explains why, you know, younger guys like
Speaker 1: Greg and Dan who maybe we're too young to listen
Speaker 1: to some of his best stuff early on and heard
Speaker 1: it second or third hand. Interesting. I did love We
Speaker 1: Didn't Start the Fire when I was nine. I thought
Speaker 1: that was the greatest composition by anyone ever, and then
Speaker 1: he O'Connor topped it thirty years later. Um, all right,
Speaker 1: let's get into it. Jamis Winston has a job, or
Speaker 1: it looks like it's heading that way. This is not
Speaker 1: official yet, correct. He hasn't signed officially, which makes makes
Speaker 1: you wonder a little bit. What's going that's interesting? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Who sports is? Charles Charles Robinson reports that New Orleans
Speaker 1: is finalizing a one year deal with Winston, the former
Speaker 1: Buck coming off a five thousand nine yards season, thirty
Speaker 1: plus touchdowns, thirty interceptions, and immediately eyebrows raised the idea
Speaker 1: that Winston would stay in the division go to the
Speaker 1: Saints back up Drew Brees. He enters the mix with
Speaker 1: Taysom Hill, who is supposed to be and maybe still
Speaker 1: is the air apparent uh to Breeze. So it just
Speaker 1: leads to a lot of unsolved mysteries in its own right, Greg,
Speaker 1: your thoughts when you heard the news that Winston maybe
Speaker 1: and quite possibly is headed to the Saints. I Uh,
Speaker 1: I wasn't shocked because I I what I did this hashtag?
Speaker 1: They're set up into your own comment with a big
Speaker 1: wait whit whit? What did? Uh? You made your Greg
Speaker 1: sound effect that you often. I wasn't gonna say anything,
Speaker 1: but then Mark reacted to it, and I can't help myself,
Speaker 1: but go ahead, Sorry, I did this Saints Twitter pot
Speaker 1: podcast just you knew our boy Dad Boy Wolf as
Speaker 1: a as a podcast in my buddy Adam and uh,
Speaker 1: they were saying they were here and this was gonna
Speaker 1: happen before the draft, so they got sources on the inside.
Speaker 1: Um and they ended up being proven right. And it
Speaker 1: makes all the sense in the world if you're Jamis Winston,
Speaker 1: and it makes sense if you're the Saints too. I
Speaker 1: you know, I think you get a chance to get
Speaker 1: Jamis Winston in the building for a year, probably Drew
Speaker 1: Brees is last year. We haven't heard any financial terms.
Speaker 1: The Jamis Winston deal, you know, was reported on before
Speaker 1: the Taysom Hill extension came out, and the money that
Speaker 1: was involved in extension came out. So part of me
Speaker 1: does wonder is this deal for absolute shirt? Does? Did
Speaker 1: Winston know about that before he came to terms? But
Speaker 1: either way he should do the deal because if he
Speaker 1: can somehow impress Jean Payton or if he can end
Speaker 1: up getting in the lineup and being his backup like
Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater, Uh, what better place to possibly learn? Because
Speaker 1: damis Winston still has allowed to learn, but he also
Speaker 1: has a lot of talent. A guy that throws for
Speaker 1: five thousand yards can do things in the NFL, and like,
Speaker 1: there's no better place to learn other than under Drew
Speaker 1: Brees and Sean Payton. So along with this, Taysom Hill
Speaker 1: gets a new contract including sixteen million up front guaranteed,
Speaker 1: and I think you have to make uh common sense
Speaker 1: out of that. To me, the words and actions of
Speaker 1: Sean Payton over the last few years, it's obvious that
Speaker 1: he values Taysom Hill extremely high in two ways, One
Speaker 1: as option A in the succession plan to Drew Brees,
Speaker 1: and two for the versatility and mismatch issues he gives
Speaker 1: at several different positions tight end, wide receiver, running back,
Speaker 1: special teams. He values that versatility more than he values
Speaker 1: Taysom Hill as a backup quarterback. But it's weird to
Speaker 1: say that you're back that the guy you see as
Speaker 1: your option a for succession is not your backup quarterback.
Speaker 1: And I think people have had a hard time, I guess,
Speaker 1: reconciling those two ideas. I just see it all about
Speaker 1: because you know this went this Drew Brees windows about
Speaker 1: to close, and he they want to use Taysom Hill
Speaker 1: in all the ways you mentioned Chris and at the
Speaker 1: same time, um, you know, not have to limit Taysom
Speaker 1: Hill if he they've talked about a ballooning, blossoming role
Speaker 1: for him where he gets hurt and suddenly you don't
Speaker 1: have a backup in the Saints are in super hot
Speaker 1: water my me alone, and I understand all the issues
Speaker 1: that come along with with Jamis Winston. Um. On the field,
Speaker 1: I like Jamis Winston better than Teddy Bridgewater as a
Speaker 1: backup quarterback any day of the week. And this the
Speaker 1: salary cap issue for the Saints, or the situation is
Speaker 1: they have less than four million available, So that makes
Speaker 1: sense to that you're not signing Winston and all of
Speaker 1: a sudden you have the highest paid backup in the
Speaker 1: league on your roster. Something Winston obviously is trying to
Speaker 1: reset his value. But Greg said it makes all the
Speaker 1: sense in the world for Winston. I guess that's right.
Speaker 1: But it also makes me think that you only take
Speaker 1: this job, UH if you have no other options to
Speaker 1: be starting quarterback in and when you look at the
Speaker 1: landscape of the league. I guess that's true. They can self,
Speaker 1: where should what should I do if I'm not If
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna have a chance to start, I might
Speaker 1: as well go somewhere that could reset my career and
Speaker 1: maybe kind of change everything. It's gotta whoever has given
Speaker 1: him the help with the decision making. I think he's
Speaker 1: doing a nice shot. I mean he didn't have it.
Speaker 1: He knew he didn't have any chance to start two
Speaker 1: weeks ago, so that that doesn't surprise me that those
Speaker 1: jobs are gone. So it's just figuring out, like which
Speaker 1: team which actually shows you some interest. We don't know
Speaker 1: if many teams are any other than the Saints have
Speaker 1: shown any interest would be the best UH spot to
Speaker 1: be a backup. And I mean Winston has had some
Speaker 1: games against the Saints, I mean he is he has
Speaker 1: put over thirty points on the Saints and some comeback
Speaker 1: victories pretty often. I have to go check the wreck heard,
Speaker 1: but I think he will enter this year five hundred
Speaker 1: against Drew Brees in the Saints. The Bucks have gotten
Speaker 1: the better end of that, and a lot of it
Speaker 1: is because the Saints defense can't figure out a way
Speaker 1: to stop this guy. So he's twenty five years old,
Speaker 1: he's taking a step back. I think he'll be a
Speaker 1: starting quarterback in the league. And and it wouldn't shock
Speaker 1: me if he's a starting quarterback with the Saints because
Speaker 1: Taysom Hill. The contract is really interesting. It's basically a
Speaker 1: two year, twenty one million dollar contract, So that's that's
Speaker 1: a lot um. It's a lot that they didn't have
Speaker 1: to give him. You know, he was a restricted free agent.
Speaker 1: I'm sure he was upset. And this feels almost like
Speaker 1: the first ever apology contract they've ever heard for a backup.
Speaker 1: So when he when they when they're talking to him
Speaker 1: about bringing Winston in, they said, no, you're you've got
Speaker 1: a big role in our team. We're gonna give you
Speaker 1: twenty million dollars to prove it, and you're gonna be
Speaker 1: under contract now for one for you know too. It's
Speaker 1: about ten million dollars a year. That's sort of in
Speaker 1: between starting quarterback and backup quarterback money. It's it's fascinated.
Speaker 1: I mean, I can't think of anything. Never give out
Speaker 1: an apology contract. I mean, I just think that's part
Speaker 1: of it. I don't think they wouldn't give him the
Speaker 1: money and if they didn't absolutely love him and have
Speaker 1: a big role for him, like like West said, So
Speaker 1: it does make some sense. But I also think you
Speaker 1: don't bring in Winston unless you're at least open to
Speaker 1: the idea that he could be a possible succession plan
Speaker 1: to Drew Brees too, that at least that's that's in
Speaker 1: the realm of possibility. One quick question, I mean, my
Speaker 1: where I get caught up a little bit is I
Speaker 1: would imagine the Saints, after all they've said about Taysom
Speaker 1: Hill and in the comparisons they've made to Steve Young
Speaker 1: and my belief that they do see him as a
Speaker 1: legit um potential air to Drew Brees. If Drew Brees
Speaker 1: were lost for three games or what happened last year,
Speaker 1: don't you want to start Taysom Hill and see what
Speaker 1: you have? I mean, do we just plug and play
Speaker 1: Jamis Winston at that point, it seems like an opportunity
Speaker 1: to find out in real time what happens beyond this
Speaker 1: next season. I think Sean Payton in this Drew Brees
Speaker 1: window believes Taysom Hill is too valuable to use as
Speaker 1: a backup quarterback. He's too valuable as a Misma Jopson
Speaker 1: on offense and all the other position and on special teams.
Speaker 1: And that's why I wonder what will happen at what
Speaker 1: point is he not too valuable? Like when Drew Brees
Speaker 1: retires a are you saying, okay, now we've got to
Speaker 1: get a new Taysom Hill to play all those other
Speaker 1: positions and the original Taysom Hill becomes quarterback. It's it's
Speaker 1: kind of it's so weird because he has touches. He
Speaker 1: has a hundred career touches. I mean, he has fewer
Speaker 1: career touches than a mediocre backup quarterback entering his second year.
Speaker 1: So it is a totally unique, I think, unparalleled, uh
Speaker 1: you know situation. It's really crazy to me. All right,
Speaker 1: In other interesting quarterback situations, let's head to Green Bay,
Speaker 1: where our old friend Bob McGinn, writing for The Athletic,
Speaker 1: had this to say, when breaking down the Packers suspect
Speaker 1: draft class that included trading up to take quarterback Jordan's
Speaker 1: Love in the first round. According to McGinn uh, he
Speaker 1: believes Matt Lafleur, the Packers coach, quote, simply had enough
Speaker 1: of Rogers act and wanted to change the narrative. Uh.
Speaker 1: And changing the narrative and giving the Packers leverage is
Speaker 1: adding a first round quarterback with great, great skill set
Speaker 1: to the room. Uh. So yes. If if anybody thought
Speaker 1: when they were listening Thursday Night Show that we were
Speaker 1: being melodramatic about this pick and what it could mean
Speaker 1: to the Packers and what it's gonna lead in terms
Speaker 1: of drama, No, this is going to be a huge
Speaker 1: story around this team, whether Packers fans like it or not.
Speaker 1: This is fascinating to me the more I read about it,
Speaker 1: and I think it's important to point out Bob McGain
Speaker 1: was not reporting there. He started that sentence with my
Speaker 1: sense is this is what's going on. Brian Gooda counts.
Speaker 1: The GM had interviews with Peter King and Albert Brier
Speaker 1: and in both interviews made it clear this was not
Speaker 1: plan A going into the draft. They did not prioritize
Speaker 1: finding a successor for Aaron Rodgers. And what I find
Speaker 1: interesting is the original plan was to help Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: to get an early round wide receiver for the first
Speaker 1: time in six years. Peter King in his article pointed
Speaker 1: out that since two thousand fifteen, the Packers have not
Speaker 1: drafted a wide receiver in the first three rounds and
Speaker 1: have not signed any wide receiver for more than five
Speaker 1: million dollars. The original plan was to help Rogers. The
Speaker 1: fallback plan effectively undercuts him and perhaps even alienates him.
Speaker 1: I wonder if they can thread that needle. I mean,
Speaker 1: to me, it's it's a very touchy situation, now, was it?
Speaker 1: Was it the fallback plan though? I mean they called
Speaker 1: the Vikings, They called all these teams in front of
Speaker 1: them to trade up. They with no good information either
Speaker 1: that any team was trading up other than you know,
Speaker 1: they thought maybe, but they did have good information. They
Speaker 1: hit him from they hit him what It didn't turn
Speaker 1: out to be good, but they thought it was good.
Speaker 1: They thought that the Cults were trading up, right. They
Speaker 1: they thought apparently incorrectly, But who knows? Teams lie after
Speaker 1: the drafting, before the draft of all the time that
Speaker 1: the Cults are going to trade up for Love, but
Speaker 1: they were calling all the teams ahead of them to move.
Speaker 1: But if if plan A was a risk, siver and
Speaker 1: I guess, okay, you only like four or five receivers
Speaker 1: in this draft, but why not trade up for a
Speaker 1: receiver or or Gudakuns is quote saying we thought In
Speaker 1: explaining why they didn't take receiver a little later in
Speaker 1: the draft, he said, well, we thought this was only
Speaker 1: about a twelve receiver draft. But you could have you
Speaker 1: could you would have taken one of your top five
Speaker 1: in the first round. The players they they liked in
Speaker 1: the first round were off the board by about pick
Speaker 1: twenty four, That's what Gouda Kun said. And there were
Speaker 1: guys they liked in the second round out wide receiver.
Speaker 1: They did try it up, try to trade up for
Speaker 1: those guys, but at that point the fourth rounder they
Speaker 1: had to throw in for the Jordan Love trade would
Speaker 1: have been valuable to trade up, and they didn't have
Speaker 1: that option available. I would say this. I mean, Bob
Speaker 1: mcgainn is not reporting this as you mentioned the way
Speaker 1: he worded this, But I'm not sure there's anyone I
Speaker 1: trust more to um put little droplets of background information
Speaker 1: and in intelligence and just a vibe of what's happening
Speaker 1: in Green Bay. And when I hear Matt Lafleur say
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is our quarterback for years to come, uh, well,
Speaker 1: that would be frankly unusual with the way that they've
Speaker 1: they've set the table here, because that just doesn't happen
Speaker 1: that often. Now you've got Tom Brady and Jimmy g
Speaker 1: in that situation, and Aaron Rodgers should be looked at
Speaker 1: in the same esteem that maybe he shouldn't feel threatened
Speaker 1: at all, but like it's the person of Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: and the overall experience of Aaron Rodgers. It seems to
Speaker 1: have threatened Matt Lafloor to some degree. I don't know
Speaker 1: if threatened is the right word, but it's an uncomfortable
Speaker 1: relationship after we spent all of last year wondering if
Speaker 1: they could work together, and it went off without a
Speaker 1: hitch for the most part. Um I wonder now. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I think it is a coin flip that Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: is on the Packers roster a year from now. I
Speaker 1: just that's the way I'd see it at this point,
Speaker 1: because these things have a have a way to snowball
Speaker 1: and move more rapidly than one would wish that a
Speaker 1: Packers fan would wish we had. The Power rankings came
Speaker 1: out this week and I did a show with our
Speaker 1: producer Matt Tanton, a buddy of ours in our left
Speaker 1: field er slash Pitcher West on the Shield Uh and
Speaker 1: he's a big Bears van and he was floating the
Speaker 1: idea that he can't wait for the Aaron Rodgers revenge
Speaker 1: tour with Rogers in Chicago with the Bears a year
Speaker 1: from now. And he said it as like an excited
Speaker 1: bearfa You say, stop, but how are they go? They're
Speaker 1: going to trade him to the Bears. Please that that
Speaker 1: is not the team they're gonna give. Listen, just just
Speaker 1: keep an open mind. And when you think about Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 1: is there anyone any player that you've ever can name
Speaker 1: or think of that is more suited for a revenge
Speaker 1: tour where he decides that a team is out to
Speaker 1: get him and he now wants to vanquish them and
Speaker 1: teach them that they were wrong because I'm Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: and I'm the best. This feels destined, like in the
Speaker 1: stars that Rogers will have this chapter in his career.
Speaker 1: And this this, I mean, you couldn't ask, you couldn't
Speaker 1: picture a bigger like step toward that than what happened
Speaker 1: this week, this past week. I always say plays because
Speaker 1: of the Bears, because you know, they have him under
Speaker 1: contract for four more years, and he'd be very expensive
Speaker 1: for a year right in the next in the next
Speaker 1: two years, so you figure if if they got rid
Speaker 1: of him, it's probably gonna be via trade. But I
Speaker 1: thought it was interesting David Bactieri, who was Live man,
Speaker 1: was it on their draft than it was? It was drafted, okay,
Speaker 1: so you know you can still you can still donate
Speaker 1: to the drafted than because it had such good info
Speaker 1: from David Bactieri who was on Live and saying he
Speaker 1: thought it was gonna fire up Aaron Rodgers. He thought
Speaker 1: that this is gonna put a little extra in him.
Speaker 1: And when McGinn wrote um that Rodgers his attitude was
Speaker 1: imperial or what a great what a choice of word,
Speaker 1: that the Packers would gain leverage with their quote imperial
Speaker 1: quarterback and his passive aggressive style because he heard Gouda
Speaker 1: Kun's talk after the draft two they wanted to you know,
Speaker 1: transition more into like a running team, and that was
Speaker 1: with the agent, you know, and that they don't want
Speaker 1: to hear any honking from Rogers or anything. If I'm
Speaker 1: reading the tea leaves here about like where we're going
Speaker 1: to be a running team. Okay, well we'll get rid
Speaker 1: of you in a year if you're gonna complain, well,
Speaker 1: and to emphasize that it's so weird that this could
Speaker 1: have gone the way that Aaron Rodgers ends up with
Speaker 1: a widerss fever and he's happy. Instead, they get the
Speaker 1: biggest running back to come out of the draft in
Speaker 1: a few years, a power back, and Gouda Kuntz says
Speaker 1: his head coach wants to tie everything to the run game,
Speaker 1: even if they don't draft another quarterback. That is undercutting
Speaker 1: what Aaron Rodgers thinks of his role as the quarterback.
Speaker 1: He he thinks that he goes up to the line
Speaker 1: of scrimmage and decides what they're gonna do. It's worth noting,
Speaker 1: you know, they drafted Brett five and he started playing
Speaker 1: better than ever and they almost made it back to
Speaker 1: the super Bowl. That was, you know, three years more
Speaker 1: of Brett Fire. Jimmy Garoppolo. They drafted in two thousand
Speaker 1: and fourteen. I know it is one round later, but
Speaker 1: that's the second round pick. They won three more Super
Speaker 1: Bowls after that. Brady was around the same age, so
Speaker 1: that I think there is a route here where Rodgers
Speaker 1: just you know, plays his his brains out and ends
Speaker 1: up being the guy for a while. That's at least possible.
Speaker 1: Sure love frush storylines. Well, it's fresh, but it's not
Speaker 1: going to be fresh when we're still discussing this in
Speaker 1: late July. What about what about the report out there
Speaker 1: that this season they could still hypothetically have a sixteen
Speaker 1: game season that would start October. What would we do
Speaker 1: in September and October? Do you remember how inviserible we
Speaker 1: are every August, at the end of the August, at
Speaker 1: the end of the month, talking about the same things
Speaker 1: over and over again. What would happen if that extended.
Speaker 1: I am not worried about this group filling up forty
Speaker 1: five to fifty minutes um. Even if we were on
Speaker 1: the dark side of you know, planet Saturn, we'd find
Speaker 1: a way to discuss something. I'm just saying, you're gonna
Speaker 1: be talking about whatever you were think think of every
Speaker 1: year September, think about doing that again for another forty
Speaker 1: five days. I mean, there's times that we've taken topics
Speaker 1: and and forbid them from being discussed. I think we
Speaker 1: would just have to broaden the bands on a wide
Speaker 1: variety of discussion points that have become hyper stale. Let's
Speaker 1: hope it doesn't get to that. That's what's happening in
Speaker 1: the news. All right, Poor James Devlon just kicked right
Speaker 1: out of the old five j games. It was a
Speaker 1: good run, you know. I mean, have we ever done
Speaker 1: a news item on a fullback retiring? Now? It's fine,
Speaker 1: that's fine. When Rosie Nixt goes out he had the
Speaker 1: Patriots All decade team, which will soon be announced, what
Speaker 1: competition at the fullback? Saying you made it. The Patriots
Speaker 1: might come up again. Great, so you'll get your chance. Okay, good, Uh,
Speaker 1: if you want to wax on, that's it was fine.
Speaker 1: I mean, what Bill Belichick's guy, you know, that's it's
Speaker 1: probably his number one favorite player he ever drafted. All right,
Speaker 1: it is time now. Yes, teams think they have solved
Speaker 1: their roster woes, but there are still unsolved mysteries, unsolved history.
Speaker 1: He would walk down the steps of like a city
Speaker 1: library and a long trench coat stack, and then there'll
Speaker 1: be floud roll again. He just looked about the craziest
Speaker 1: man there's ever been. Well check it out on Until
Speaker 1: You cosplayed him on our TV show earlier. This year's
Speaker 1: apparently the biggest Robert Stack. He's also excellent in a
Speaker 1: comedic role an airplane. Yeah, I forgot that, all right.
Speaker 1: So well, this is a recurring segment on the show.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's fairly simple. We're gonna take turns pointing
Speaker 1: out something connected to a team that feels like a
Speaker 1: loose end at this stage of the calendar. And um,
Speaker 1: since I mentioned the Patriots and I have them on
Speaker 1: my list, why don't I get going here with an
Speaker 1: unsolved mystery surrounding the New England Patriots. Bill Belichick had
Speaker 1: a very Bill Bill belichicking and draft. We know that
Speaker 1: right now. Uh. He traded out of the first round.
Speaker 1: He took a D two safety with the first pick. Uh.
Speaker 1: And he completely most notably, in my opinion, ignored the
Speaker 1: quarterbacks of the college game, which leads people to believe
Speaker 1: that Jared Stidham, last year's fourth round pick, the Brian
Speaker 1: Hoyer in the backup are the guts of that QB room.
Speaker 1: Here's the unsolved mystery. Will another shoe be dropping? Or
Speaker 1: is this really what this is gonna be? And knowing
Speaker 1: the people involved here, I would not be surprised if
Speaker 1: this is how it plays out, just because Belichick doesn't
Speaker 1: want to do what you think he's gonna do. But
Speaker 1: unless you and I are in the same page here,
Speaker 1: I gotta do better in that room. Unless Jared Sidhems
Speaker 1: is the next time break unsolmisteries, I don't know. I've
Speaker 1: read that they like, Okay, you want to find out
Speaker 1: what you have in Jared Stidham. So at that point,
Speaker 1: why does it make sense to trade a light round
Speaker 1: pick or whatever for Andy Dalton? Why do you need
Speaker 1: sixteen games to see what you have in Jared's did him?
Speaker 1: I don't think you need a whole season to experiment
Speaker 1: with a guy who was a fourth round draft pick.
Speaker 1: To me, I don't know one month worth of games
Speaker 1: is enough to know whether you've got the right game,
Speaker 1: right guy or not. I just don't buy that as
Speaker 1: the reason. Well, I think there you gotta trust the
Speaker 1: actions at some point. I'm not saying they would be
Speaker 1: closed off to the quarterbacks. Okay, let's start with the
Speaker 1: draft pick, like going into you know, when they did
Speaker 1: those mocks before the college season and they did you know,
Speaker 1: fake mox in September. Jared Stidhon was supposed to be
Speaker 1: a top ten to fifteen pick. So if he had
Speaker 1: come out as a junior, a lot of people thought
Speaker 1: you probably would have been late first, maybe mid second.
Speaker 1: If he happened to have been like, like, let's put
Speaker 1: that at the end of it, a mid second, late second,
Speaker 1: maybe we feel a little differently about him, about him
Speaker 1: as like a prospect that they can believe and they've
Speaker 1: got to watch him for a year, and I think
Speaker 1: there's there's no way that they would have done what
Speaker 1: they've done this offseason unless they're just comfortable with him
Speaker 1: being their starter. I do think it's worth noting Brian
Speaker 1: Hoyler is only making a million dollars, which would be
Speaker 1: make him like the lowest paid veteran backup in the league.
Speaker 1: So they have extra room to add someone at some point,
Speaker 1: and I think they will. I don't think it's someone
Speaker 1: that necessarily is competing with Jared Stidham, and I don't
Speaker 1: think it's necessarily any Dalton unless he came at an
Speaker 1: incredibly cheat price. Um, but I mean Plawyers making nothing,
Speaker 1: and and even if Stidham is the favorite to start
Speaker 1: Week one, which I think he's gonna be, I would
Speaker 1: expect them to add someone to I think someone will
Speaker 1: be added to that room. I just look at their
Speaker 1: actions to I mean, what one little thing on Dalton
Speaker 1: to find the Bengals. And you know there have been
Speaker 1: messier quarterback team scenarios than Dalton and the Bengals. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure I want to move him at this point.
Speaker 1: I mean, what's the worst thing about right, I mean,
Speaker 1: there have been some reporting that the Bengals are open
Speaker 1: to keeping any Dalton and he'd be um certainly more
Speaker 1: generous to incoming quarterback than some veterans we can think of.
Speaker 1: And there's just nothing about the Patriots chasing after any
Speaker 1: of these signal callers that we keep wanting to link
Speaker 1: them with. I mean, there's just no buzz around it
Speaker 1: on any level. But that's also they're pretty buzz proof
Speaker 1: building they are. But I mean, you know, something would
Speaker 1: leak out if they were fascinated with with Andy Dalton
Speaker 1: or Cam Newton. I just feel like we'd have a
Speaker 1: little tiny tidbit of info suggested or they did something
Speaker 1: about it. But to your point in terms of it
Speaker 1: being a mystery, if we hit late August and no
Speaker 1: one wants Cam Newton still and he's out there for
Speaker 1: almost nothing, I mean to me that then that changes
Speaker 1: the equation. It's different than being aggressive. Or you get
Speaker 1: to camp and Stidham is a total dult, I mean,
Speaker 1: then maybe you make them. I mean they've they've they've
Speaker 1: had him in the building, they watched them play a
Speaker 1: hundred times in practice or whatever it is, and they
Speaker 1: obviously like him a lot. I kind of remember him
Speaker 1: stinking out to join against the Jets in the preseason.
Speaker 1: What if Stidham is their guy and then he plays
Speaker 1: really poorly all through the summer. I mean he he
Speaker 1: had a solid preseason. It wasn't like unbelievable. It was
Speaker 1: easily the best rookie preseason they've ever had out of
Speaker 1: a quarterback. But what you know, it was a lot
Speaker 1: of a lot of dinking and duncan. I mean, Dan,
Speaker 1: if I were you, I just keep it, keep this
Speaker 1: tamping down. You want him playing against the Jets, I
Speaker 1: don't want I also don't want them going three and
Speaker 1: thirteen and getting Trevor Lawrence April, so you know it's
Speaker 1: it's it's tough sitch, all right, mark Erop. You know,
Speaker 1: for me, I'm trying to think of a coach who
Speaker 1: left on worst terms. Um went into the wilderness and
Speaker 1: had one of the more um inconceivably hyped up PR
Speaker 1: campaigns about his return than Mike McCarthy. And when we're
Speaker 1: told that Mike McCarthy is a completely new human being,
Speaker 1: that um, you know, by watching tape during his year
Speaker 1: away from football, he's learned so much, UM, despite the
Speaker 1: fact that he was a coach for plus years before that,
Speaker 1: and that we're you know, he's a perfect fit for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. And my question is, because it is a
Speaker 1: mystery to me, is how much has Mike McCarthy actually changed,
Speaker 1: Because there are two versions of Mike McCarthy. You get
Speaker 1: a is this one that we're told has completely um
Speaker 1: had a come to Jesus moment and sees offensive football
Speaker 1: in a completely different way, or be um the one
Speaker 1: who basically lost that power uh power clash with Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers unlike Matt Laflour at this point and basically rode
Speaker 1: himself out of Town on an offense that when he
Speaker 1: was last coaching, you know, it was viewed as archaic,
Speaker 1: um unmoving, uh, you know, unable to change with the
Speaker 1: times the way the teams in the NFC were. So
Speaker 1: you know you've kept Kellen Moore. UM. I like that
Speaker 1: as a first move to say, maybe we marry what
Speaker 1: the Cowboys do will well and marry we marry a
Speaker 1: little bit of what Mike McCarthy feels at home with. UM.
Speaker 1: I want to see that. I I wouldn't keep Kellen
Speaker 1: Moore unless you wanted to use some of his ingenuity.
Speaker 1: I thought that. You know, for a time last year
Speaker 1: he roamed as the coordinator of the year material until
Speaker 1: some of the wheels fell off. You've got no end
Speaker 1: to the talent on that offense, and there are no
Speaker 1: excuses from Mike McCarthy. He's not taking over some sort
Speaker 1: of broken down two and fourteen team with a long leaf.
Speaker 1: You've got Jerry Jones adding Ceedee Lamb to a totally
Speaker 1: stocked wide receiver room. I just wonder will we get
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy in a way we've never experienced or the
Speaker 1: same old thing. Is there something to be said that
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy was viewed as the boogeyman in Green Bay,
Speaker 1: and then he gets dumped, and then they bring in
Speaker 1: a kid to be the new head coach, a bearded boy.
Speaker 1: And now that bearded boy was just behind drafting a
Speaker 1: first round quarterback because Aaron Rodgers had become a pain
Speaker 1: in the ass and maybe as part of the reason
Speaker 1: that offense isn't as good anymore. I'm not saying I'm
Speaker 1: not defriending McCarthy. I just find it interesting that McCarthy
Speaker 1: was viewed as the problem capital t capital p and
Speaker 1: then the often stayed kind of blah last season after
Speaker 1: he left. They also won six or seven more games
Speaker 1: or whatever whatever it was, so that but he's done
Speaker 1: that before. I mean, he had a great he I
Speaker 1: think it at the end of Green Bay was not great,
Speaker 1: but he had a great run there when he had
Speaker 1: I think eight ends of ten plus games over eleven years.
Speaker 1: Maybe he got old. I get that side. I think
Speaker 1: there's some reason to believe that he's gonna let Kellen
Speaker 1: Moore be Kellen Moore and that he's going to be
Speaker 1: more of kind of executive type coach. That's what he said.
Speaker 1: I mean, Kellen Moore is going to call the plays
Speaker 1: and Kelly. There was some talk that Garrett kind of
Speaker 1: stepped in, and people wanted to blame Garrett for why
Speaker 1: the offense got a little more conservative under Kellen Moore
Speaker 1: down the stretch. Maybe maybe McCarthy him turning the new
Speaker 1: leaf is kind of letting Kellen Moore fly. I would
Speaker 1: ask you this though, So they hired Mike McCarthy uh
Speaker 1: to play executive role, not because of Mike McCarthy's offensive
Speaker 1: playbook or ingenuity that that is that alone would be
Speaker 1: that would make sense to me, because I think that
Speaker 1: was his strength. You know, his his plays were not
Speaker 1: his strength. His his strength I thought was kind of
Speaker 1: an organizational cohesion. Like he was an adult leading the
Speaker 1: room who hired good people who kind of it works,
Speaker 1: seemed to work well, and and like he always seemed
Speaker 1: good at that part of the job, just play calling.
Speaker 1: You know, he's fine. What to your point, Dan, I
Speaker 1: think we all kind of bought, by all of us,
Speaker 1: I mean the COGNICENTI bought. We bought the storyline that
Speaker 1: McCarthy's offense had grown stale, and that's the reason why
Speaker 1: he left. That's the reason why he was pushed out
Speaker 1: the relationship with Rogers didn't work anymore because McCarthy's offense
Speaker 1: had grown stale. If you're reading between the lines on
Speaker 1: Bob McGain and if you're watching Rogers play. We talked
Speaker 1: about it at the end of last year when I
Speaker 1: was saying, look at all these plays he's passing up
Speaker 1: because he wants to make the spectacular play. Maybe the
Speaker 1: truth is a lot closer to both of them were
Speaker 1: at fault. Maybe the offense did grow stale, but maybe
Speaker 1: it wasn't working because Aaron Rodgers wouldn't work with the offense.
Speaker 1: And when you hear guys like James Jones, who played
Speaker 1: quite a few years under McCarthy, say nothing but great
Speaker 1: things about him and say, of course, the Cowboys got
Speaker 1: a great coach. To me, maybe we should shift away
Speaker 1: from the narrative that McCarthy only left Green Bay because
Speaker 1: his offense was stale. Alright, Chris Westling, you're up. Albert
Speaker 1: brial Brier did a really nice job on his post
Speaker 1: draft column looking at the quarterbacks and why they were
Speaker 1: chosen and what people liked about them. When I read
Speaker 1: that Joe Burrow piece, I mean, I don't want to
Speaker 1: sound like this guy, but it feels like it's about
Speaker 1: to be cool to be a Bengals fan again. And
Speaker 1: I can't remember ever thinking that that it's it's going
Speaker 1: to be cool. And this guy is gonna save Zach
Speaker 1: Taylor's job, That's what. That's the sense I get that
Speaker 1: he is so beloved by his teammates and everybody in
Speaker 1: every building he's been in. He's a natural leader. He
Speaker 1: has the mind that you want in a quarterback and
Speaker 1: the personality you want in a quarterback. Um, if he's
Speaker 1: going to save Zach Taylor's job, to me, the unsolved
Speaker 1: mystery is is Zach Taylor are a good coach? What
Speaker 1: are we gonna find out about Zach Taylor's coaching ability
Speaker 1: through Joe Burrow? Ye? I, well, no, I I had
Speaker 1: a very similar mystery about Zach Taylor. They have a
Speaker 1: O C and d C who are both with one
Speaker 1: year of experience at that role, and Zach Taylor, I mean,
Speaker 1: I get number one. I love that they didn't fire
Speaker 1: him because I don't like these one and done situations
Speaker 1: when what they were dealing with a lot last year.
Speaker 1: But I cannot imagine or remember a first year of
Speaker 1: coach that you know when coach sixteen games and came
Speaker 1: out with less of an identity. I have no concept
Speaker 1: of who Zach Taylor is or what the coaching philosophy
Speaker 1: is in Cincinnati at all. Now that could change entirely,
Speaker 1: but I'm totally with you on that being an unsolved mystery.
Speaker 1: Now he has a chance, and yeah, not just a chance,
Speaker 1: like it's he is set up pretty well. And I
Speaker 1: like their draft because I like the idea of it
Speaker 1: turns out. Now if at the time a few months ago,
Speaker 1: it felt like Bengals being Bengals, but now the idea
Speaker 1: that A. J. Green is there makes a ton of sense,
Speaker 1: and it gets you even more excited because he is
Speaker 1: potentially back to his old self. And now you have
Speaker 1: Tee Higgins, who they took him the first pick of
Speaker 1: the second round, another explosive receiver. So you're lined up
Speaker 1: really well at wide receiver. If this if this guy
Speaker 1: can play, and you get the offensive lineman back that
Speaker 1: didn't didn't even play a snap last year, there's a
Speaker 1: real chance that they become one of those teams. And
Speaker 1: it happens every once in a while that it goes
Speaker 1: from two and fourteen to playoff contender in December, like
Speaker 1: I would not be stunned if they're hanging around in
Speaker 1: the a f C, especially with an extra playoff spot
Speaker 1: to meet. Quarterbacks for the most part, make coaches, not
Speaker 1: the other way around. And Burrow, I mean, there was
Speaker 1: some negativity about his arm strength and like, oh, is
Speaker 1: he like a you know, rich Man's Alex Smith or
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton. It's like, give me a break when you
Speaker 1: look at his athleticism that the third and seventeen play
Speaker 1: he makes against Texas early in the year, where there's
Speaker 1: three or four clear rushers coming at him and he
Speaker 1: moves in the pocket and makes it ridiculous throw o
Speaker 1: on the move, which saves their undefeated season. They maybe
Speaker 1: don't win that game, Like that's the type of next
Speaker 1: level like quarterbacking you can't teach and like Alex Smith
Speaker 1: and end it all, they don't. They don't. They don't
Speaker 1: got that. This guy can make Zach Taylor, you know,
Speaker 1: look a lot better than Zach Taylor is. Well it's
Speaker 1: been a long time now, but I remember Greg specifically
Speaker 1: liking what he heard from Zach Taylor last year coming
Speaker 1: out of all the press conference. I think publicly he
Speaker 1: he does a really good job still and I even
Speaker 1: think that now when I when I watched him in
Speaker 1: these interviews, and we were really impressed with him in
Speaker 1: Week one when they went into Seattle and almost upset
Speaker 1: the Seahawks, and then after that everybody got injured and
Speaker 1: they went months without winning the game. Well, I would
Speaker 1: just say this, though, You've got guys like Brian Flores
Speaker 1: to who were given absolutely nothing to work with, and
Speaker 1: we're coming out of that season thinking that Brian Flores
Speaker 1: is a huge asset, and I I'm glad again, I'm
Speaker 1: glad they kept Zach Taylor. It would have been unfair
Speaker 1: to they were competitive when they led. They led ten games,
Speaker 1: which I think is an NFL record to only get
Speaker 1: two wins in the second half. So it's they weren't
Speaker 1: like a terror, you know, as two and fourteen teams
Speaker 1: go or did they win to or one? I can't
Speaker 1: even was two. I kind of it's funny you brought
Speaker 1: up Brian Flores to me. He's in the same boat
Speaker 1: on the kind of the opposite end where you know
Speaker 1: nothing about Zach Taylor, who had a terrible roster and
Speaker 1: injuries and went too and fourteen. Flores was very it
Speaker 1: was very publicly being set up that this is the
Speaker 1: worst roster perhaps ever, and then by getting to the
Speaker 1: five wins with the strong finish, he looks like a
Speaker 1: coach that's gonna be there for a decade. But now
Speaker 1: he has a big test ahead of him now, which
Speaker 1: is actually some expectations, and going five and eleven is
Speaker 1: not gonna be drawing a parade anymore. So it's it's
Speaker 1: tough business being a head coach in the league, and
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody's safe that year two is gonna
Speaker 1: be big for both of those guys. Greg, You're up
Speaker 1: all right? Um? Like Colleen Wills, sometimes I'm not sure
Speaker 1: I totally understood this exercise because my unsolvedst know I
Speaker 1: had to be team specific. But I think this works
Speaker 1: because to me, you know, we're living in an unsolved mystery.
Speaker 1: I mean, the world, the world is a mystery. I'm
Speaker 1: waiting for that music to come in. You know, the
Speaker 1: world is an unsolved mister right now to the NFL
Speaker 1: solved mysteries. What happened America, however, relates to the NFL
Speaker 1: at least to start, I'm going to start with, is
Speaker 1: I'm really interested? And I know this sounds weird about
Speaker 1: this whole supplemental draft. I know this sounds crazy, but
Speaker 1: I really think we're living in this fascinating time college football.
Speaker 1: There's a good chance it's not going to be played
Speaker 1: in the phone because schools are going to have to
Speaker 1: be back. I mean, our California governor said like he
Speaker 1: did not expect anyone to attend every any sporting events
Speaker 1: until there's some therapeutic treatment. Maybe that'll pop up. Who knows.
Speaker 1: If there's no college football in the fall and there's
Speaker 1: not gonna be much information out the next month or
Speaker 1: two before players have decide, are like seventy players gonna
Speaker 1: come out and this supplemental draft is it gonna be
Speaker 1: a totally different experience than any supplemental draft in history.
Speaker 1: Because if you're at Missouri right now and you were
Speaker 1: like a borderline third round pick and you were thinking
Speaker 1: of coming out but you thought, no, let's go back
Speaker 1: to school one more year, try to bump that up.
Speaker 1: What is the point of going back to college? Like
Speaker 1: there might not be a college to go back to,
Speaker 1: there might not be college football to go back to,
Speaker 1: and you could go start your NFL career and earn
Speaker 1: a living. It's gonna be tricky. To decide who who
Speaker 1: can make it and who who doesn't. But I feel
Speaker 1: like it's something. It could be this wave that's gonna
Speaker 1: happen and and it's gonna give us something to talk about.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm totally wrong, but we might be doing some
Speaker 1: supplemental drafts from now. They've talked and this has been
Speaker 1: out there, that supplemental draft could be a huge option
Speaker 1: for people. And there there is you know, when you
Speaker 1: go through the potential scenarios for college football, there's one
Speaker 1: where you know, yes, you don't have the autumn because
Speaker 1: it's different than the pros. Don't You don't just go
Speaker 1: playing an empty stadium the students in in like back
Speaker 1: at school for this to happen. So there's a world
Speaker 1: where maybe college football the season begins in February. They've said, well,
Speaker 1: that's completely ridiculous with the NFL calendar. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: fine for the idea of college football games being played,
Speaker 1: but if you're looking at the draft versus just playing
Speaker 1: out your senior season and becoming an accountant, well, you
Speaker 1: don't play that season, you don't get hurt two months
Speaker 1: before the draft, And it just seems completely unfeasible to me.
Speaker 1: And I think that there's got to be agents talking
Speaker 1: to certain prospects and players saying, supplemental draft maybe your
Speaker 1: best chance to maximize a draft pick. Handsome Hank might
Speaker 1: have to farm out his supplemental mock draft this year.
Speaker 1: If that goes on, you might have to break Jeremiah
Speaker 1: back from break. I guess he's not going anywhere this year.
Speaker 1: So it's like, alright, for the supplemental draft for three weeks,
Speaker 1: get ready? Well what happens if there's no college season
Speaker 1: and then the two NFL draft? Right? I mean, I
Speaker 1: just want the Yankees back. Good luck with that. We're
Speaker 1: living in an unsoved mystery? Are humans soon to be history?
Speaker 1: Who's got the next line? It's so clear for all
Speaker 1: of us to see. Um, that's the next line, So
Speaker 1: clear for all of us to see bad line, that
Speaker 1: we're living in an unsolved mystery. All right, we're swimming
Speaker 1: in a pool of pa That's not exactly Bob Dylan,
Speaker 1: do you want to do one more speed round? Real quick?
Speaker 1: Anybody got any in the chamber? I had one ready,
Speaker 1: but I don't. I don't need to. Why do we
Speaker 1: not even give? Why don't why don't we we don't
Speaker 1: even need to like dig in. Let's just run some music, Ricky,
Speaker 1: and then everybody take turns until you run out. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'll go first. Where the hell as Jadaveon Clowney go
Speaker 1: Seattle took to Leo type guys. So this is a
Speaker 1: true speed round. We just I'll throw it out there.
Speaker 1: I want to know, um who Baker Mayfield and Sam
Speaker 1: Donald dark. I would wonder I'd be concerned if they
Speaker 1: if they flopped this year, that those both those teams
Speaker 1: might quietly start looking out to her. I want to
Speaker 1: know the day the NFL season starts and the structure
Speaker 1: of that regular r Cam Newton's days as a franchise
Speaker 1: quarterback over. Have the Lions ended the curse of Barry Sanders,
Speaker 1: DeAndre Swift come out? Will Kyle Shanahan let Jimmy Garoppolo
Speaker 1: throw the ball more than five yards down the field
Speaker 1: this season? How about this? He is Matt Nagy an
Speaker 1: NFL head coach or someone pretending to be an NFL
Speaker 1: head coach? Out of the draft, I you've decided that
Speaker 1: Nick Foles is where you're going this season. Good luck
Speaker 1: with that one. Eagles were cool with that once. Pot
Speaker 1: All right, looks like we're fresh apple. Uh did you
Speaker 1: know that the Reggie? Remember when Reggie ran for one
Speaker 1: thousand and six yards and then bought everybody on the
Speaker 1: team those scooters in Detroit? Was Reggie Bush, our old friend. Um.
Speaker 1: That was the last lines one thousand yard rusher two
Speaker 1: thousand thirteen, one thousand and six yards, and the lines
Speaker 1: have ranked in the bottom half of the NFL and
Speaker 1: rushing and every season since Barry Sanders retired after campaign. Well,
Speaker 1: they went into last year wanting to be a run,
Speaker 1: orient to the offense and finish. Remember west who read
Speaker 1: who led the Lions in rushing with four hundred and
Speaker 1: three yards last year? Carry on Johnson correct, he still
Speaker 1: gotta folks. Don't forget about the west Hill Scarborough heads.
Speaker 1: Remember when Reggie like lost seven yards on a pitch
Speaker 1: play in Buffalo and ended up negative yards for the season.
Speaker 1: That's his career ended, I think. Sorry, Remember when he
Speaker 1: was on our show for like five straight weeks and
Speaker 1: then he disappeared and we never saw him again. Didn't
Speaker 1: that happen to? Barry sand drives around in Santa Monica
Speaker 1: in a golf cart all the time, but I have
Speaker 1: never once seeing that golf cart. Maybe it's a different
Speaker 1: Maybe it's a nicer part of Santa Monica than I
Speaker 1: I know. Mark. I think Barris Sanders, I think that's
Speaker 1: where you go. I think he had a negative game
Speaker 1: in the playoffs against the Packers. Well, I thought that
Speaker 1: he crossed two thousand, then got stuffed for a loss
Speaker 1: and went under two thousand, and then got back over
Speaker 1: two thousand. I don't think. But that's because he had
Speaker 1: like a I remember it against the Jets, and it
Speaker 1: was about a sixty yard run that put him well over.
Speaker 1: But I could be wrong. Who knows. Another unsolved mystery. Alright,
Speaker 1: have have an unsolved conundrum for you guys, all right,
Speaker 1: hit it, ricky. So my neighbors on one side are
Speaker 1: the happy hour neighbors. They're great, this older couple, they're
Speaker 1: very nice. On the other side was the black sheep
Speaker 1: of the neighborhood. They moved out. Nobody ever talked to
Speaker 1: them because when they came in, they had just decided
Speaker 1: they weren't gonna be friendly with anyone. So a new
Speaker 1: neighbor moved in, and this is the nicest house in
Speaker 1: the block. We have the smallest house in the block.
Speaker 1: The new neighbor told me he was coming from Clia
Speaker 1: del Rey, where he had the highest house with the
Speaker 1: best ocean view in all of Clio del Ray. The
Speaker 1: guy's got plenty of what right I'm trying to He's
Speaker 1: a really nice guy. We've been trying to figure out,
Speaker 1: you know, what he does? Who he is. The other
Speaker 1: neighbors tell us yesterday he's a writer, and I know
Speaker 1: his first name, so it kind of jugged something in me,
Speaker 1: and I looked it up and I don't want to
Speaker 1: ruin his privacy or anything, so I'm not gonna say
Speaker 1: who he is, but he's I've read one of his books.
Speaker 1: He's written multiple best sellers that have turned into like
Speaker 1: blockbuster movies. Like you guys would know who he's his
Speaker 1: name is now in order to have a normal, friendly
Speaker 1: neighborly relationship, should I ever let on that I know
Speaker 1: who he is and I've read his books? Or should
Speaker 1: I just say nothing of your neighbor is John Grisham.
Speaker 1: I'd say he's sub John Grisham on the celebrity scale,
Speaker 1: but absolutely, you you know, honesty is the best policy.
Speaker 1: Why not? I mean, what what writer doesn't like caring
Speaker 1: that you like his buck? But there's a fine line
Speaker 1: between like famboeing out on him. It's fan it's more
Speaker 1: of a fan boy to like go out of your
Speaker 1: way to not be real with him when Chris Wesley
Speaker 1: is one of the more, you know, most real guys.
Speaker 1: I know, yeah, I don't don't have it like you
Speaker 1: don't only the fanboy DNA do you really like? I
Speaker 1: think you're gonna hand It's about how you'd handle it
Speaker 1: versus withholding your knowledge of him, and I think you'd
Speaker 1: handle it pretty Maybe wouldn't roll over there after twenty
Speaker 1: two beers or something, but you know how the first
Speaker 1: meeting be real nice. This is where the big great
Speaker 1: green egg comes in handy for Standen King and Chris Wesley,
Speaker 1: not Stephen King, You and Charlie Kaufman. Uh is a
Speaker 1: screenwriter and an author. He said it's been turned into movies.
Speaker 1: You and Michael Sabin, you know, just kicking back in
Speaker 1: the old name of that ILK. Michael of that ILK,
Speaker 1: I'd say a better writer than him, though, Michael Hardon,
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a Politz erprise. You're saying he's better
Speaker 1: than that. Maybe maybe that's my own personal bias, but
Speaker 1: when I read this guy's first work, which came out
Speaker 1: like fifteen years ago. I remember thinking for that genre,
Speaker 1: for like the thriller genre, the literature is fantastic. Oh
Speaker 1: you just dropped the breadcrumb for the audience. There you go.
Speaker 1: Also from the Northeast, but now lives in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: Obviously he's not gonna be happy when there's seven people
Speaker 1: outside his house. Chris Westling sent us, well, they don't
Speaker 1: have to figure out where I live first. Um, all right,
Speaker 1: that's good. Nice goods there. All right, all right, let's
Speaker 1: let us know who you think it is. I guess,
Speaker 1: but don't don't get it right, I like it. Um,
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