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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast doesn't know which day of

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Speaker 1: the week it is. Welcome to another edition of the

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Speaker 1: Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansens, and

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Speaker 1: I'm joined in the city filled with heroes. Still in

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Speaker 1: Bunker's up to thirty one folks, Mark Sessler, Chris Wesley,

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Speaker 1: Greg Ross of all what's up boys? Okay, Dan, Well,

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Speaker 1: I should say this is the thirty first Bunker cast,

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Speaker 1: but according to one tabulation, this is the one thousand

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Speaker 1: Around the NFL Podcast episode. Now how about that? Well,

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Speaker 1: we are blowing it out as you can see it

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Speaker 1: all all the you know, when you think a thousand episode,

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Speaker 1: did you ever think we'd get to a thousand episodes? Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean at various points I thought different things. Um

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Speaker 1: So I don't well fame to say you've talked a

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Speaker 1: We made it. That's not changed. We made it, and

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Speaker 1: we had Mark along for the whole ride, and Ricky Hollywood,

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Speaker 1: you've been with us for I'd estimate in the range

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Speaker 1: You know, we love having the great Ricky Hollywood. What

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Speaker 1: best you know? Greg, here's the question. Yeah, will we

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Speaker 1: to be a running team. Okay, well we'll get rid

429
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Speaker 1: of you in a year if you're gonna complain, well,

430
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Speaker 1: and to emphasize that it's so weird that this could

431
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Speaker 1: have gone the way that Aaron Rodgers ends up with

432
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Speaker 1: a widerss fever and he's happy. Instead, they get the

433
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Speaker 1: biggest running back to come out of the draft in

434
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Speaker 1: a few years, a power back, and Gouda Kuntz says

435
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Speaker 1: his head coach wants to tie everything to the run game,

436
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Speaker 1: even if they don't draft another quarterback. That is undercutting

437
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Speaker 1: what Aaron Rodgers thinks of his role as the quarterback.

438
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Speaker 1: He he thinks that he goes up to the line

439
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 1: of scrimmage and decides what they're gonna do. It's worth noting,

440
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,120
Speaker 1: you know, they drafted Brett five and he started playing

441
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Speaker 1: better than ever and they almost made it back to

442
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Speaker 1: the super Bowl. That was, you know, three years more

443
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Speaker 1: of Brett Fire. Jimmy Garoppolo. They drafted in two thousand

444
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Speaker 1: and fourteen. I know it is one round later, but

445
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Speaker 1: that's the second round pick. They won three more Super

446
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Speaker 1: Bowls after that. Brady was around the same age, so

447
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:42,920
Speaker 1: that I think there is a route here where Rodgers

448
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 1: just you know, plays his his brains out and ends

449
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,360
Speaker 1: up being the guy for a while. That's at least possible.

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Speaker 1: Sure love frush storylines. Well, it's fresh, but it's not

451
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Speaker 1: going to be fresh when we're still discussing this in

452
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Speaker 1: late July. What about what about the report out there

453
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Speaker 1: that this season they could still hypothetically have a sixteen

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Speaker 1: game season that would start October. What would we do

455
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 1: in September and October? Do you remember how inviserible we

456
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Speaker 1: are every August, at the end of the August, at

457
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Speaker 1: the end of the month, talking about the same things

458
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Speaker 1: over and over again. What would happen if that extended.

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Speaker 1: I am not worried about this group filling up forty

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Speaker 1: five to fifty minutes um. Even if we were on

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Speaker 1: the dark side of you know, planet Saturn, we'd find

462
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Speaker 1: a way to discuss something. I'm just saying, you're gonna

463
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Speaker 1: be talking about whatever you were think think of every

464
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Speaker 1: year September, think about doing that again for another forty

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Speaker 1: five days. I mean, there's times that we've taken topics

466
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Speaker 1: and and forbid them from being discussed. I think we

467
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Speaker 1: would just have to broaden the bands on a wide

468
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Speaker 1: variety of discussion points that have become hyper stale. Let's

469
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Speaker 1: hope it doesn't get to that. That's what's happening in

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Speaker 1: the news. All right, Poor James Devlon just kicked right

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Speaker 1: out of the old five j games. It was a

472
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Speaker 1: good run, you know. I mean, have we ever done

473
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Speaker 1: a news item on a fullback retiring? Now? It's fine,

474
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Speaker 1: that's fine. When Rosie Nixt goes out he had the

475
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Speaker 1: Patriots All decade team, which will soon be announced, what

476
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Speaker 1: competition at the fullback? Saying you made it. The Patriots

477
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:22,440
Speaker 1: might come up again. Great, so you'll get your chance. Okay, good, Uh,

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Speaker 1: if you want to wax on, that's it was fine.

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00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,919
Speaker 1: I mean, what Bill Belichick's guy, you know, that's it's

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Speaker 1: probably his number one favorite player he ever drafted. All right,

481
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 1: it is time now. Yes, teams think they have solved

482
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:40,880
Speaker 1: their roster woes, but there are still unsolved mysteries, unsolved history.

483
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Speaker 1: He would walk down the steps of like a city

484
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Speaker 1: library and a long trench coat stack, and then there'll

485
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Speaker 1: be floud roll again. He just looked about the craziest

486
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Speaker 1: man there's ever been. Well check it out on Until

487
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Speaker 1: You cosplayed him on our TV show earlier. This year's

488
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,680
Speaker 1: apparently the biggest Robert Stack. He's also excellent in a

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Speaker 1: comedic role an airplane. Yeah, I forgot that, all right.

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Speaker 1: So well, this is a recurring segment on the show.

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Speaker 1: It's it's it's fairly simple. We're gonna take turns pointing

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Speaker 1: out something connected to a team that feels like a

493
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Speaker 1: loose end at this stage of the calendar. And um,

494
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Speaker 1: since I mentioned the Patriots and I have them on

495
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 1: my list, why don't I get going here with an

496
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 1: unsolved mystery surrounding the New England Patriots. Bill Belichick had

497
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Speaker 1: a very Bill Bill belichicking and draft. We know that

498
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Speaker 1: right now. Uh. He traded out of the first round.

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Speaker 1: He took a D two safety with the first pick. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And he completely most notably, in my opinion, ignored the

501
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 1: quarterbacks of the college game, which leads people to believe

502
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 1: that Jared Stidham, last year's fourth round pick, the Brian

503
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 1: Hoyer in the backup are the guts of that QB room.

504
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 1: Here's the unsolved mystery. Will another shoe be dropping? Or

505
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 1: is this really what this is gonna be? And knowing

506
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Speaker 1: the people involved here, I would not be surprised if

507
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Speaker 1: this is how it plays out, just because Belichick doesn't

508
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 1: want to do what you think he's gonna do. But

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Speaker 1: unless you and I are in the same page here,

510
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 1: I gotta do better in that room. Unless Jared Sidhems

511
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Speaker 1: is the next time break unsolmisteries, I don't know. I've

512
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Speaker 1: read that they like, Okay, you want to find out

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Speaker 1: what you have in Jared Stidham. So at that point,

514
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Speaker 1: why does it make sense to trade a light round

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00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 1: pick or whatever for Andy Dalton? Why do you need

516
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,120
Speaker 1: sixteen games to see what you have in Jared's did him?

517
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Speaker 1: I don't think you need a whole season to experiment

518
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Speaker 1: with a guy who was a fourth round draft pick.

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00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 1: To me, I don't know one month worth of games

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Speaker 1: is enough to know whether you've got the right game,

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Speaker 1: right guy or not. I just don't buy that as

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Speaker 1: the reason. Well, I think there you gotta trust the

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Speaker 1: actions at some point. I'm not saying they would be

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Speaker 1: closed off to the quarterbacks. Okay, let's start with the

525
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Speaker 1: draft pick, like going into you know, when they did

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Speaker 1: those mocks before the college season and they did you know,

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Speaker 1: fake mox in September. Jared Stidhon was supposed to be

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Speaker 1: a top ten to fifteen pick. So if he had

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Speaker 1: come out as a junior, a lot of people thought

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Speaker 1: you probably would have been late first, maybe mid second.

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Speaker 1: If he happened to have been like, like, let's put

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Speaker 1: that at the end of it, a mid second, late second,

533
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Speaker 1: maybe we feel a little differently about him, about him

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Speaker 1: as like a prospect that they can believe and they've

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Speaker 1: got to watch him for a year, and I think

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Speaker 1: there's there's no way that they would have done what

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Speaker 1: they've done this offseason unless they're just comfortable with him

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Speaker 1: being their starter. I do think it's worth noting Brian

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Speaker 1: Hoyler is only making a million dollars, which would be

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Speaker 1: make him like the lowest paid veteran backup in the league.

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Speaker 1: So they have extra room to add someone at some point,

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Speaker 1: and I think they will. I don't think it's someone

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Speaker 1: that necessarily is competing with Jared Stidham, and I don't

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Speaker 1: think it's necessarily any Dalton unless he came at an

545
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Speaker 1: incredibly cheat price. Um, but I mean Plawyers making nothing,

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Speaker 1: and and even if Stidham is the favorite to start

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Speaker 1: Week one, which I think he's gonna be, I would

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Speaker 1: expect them to add someone to I think someone will

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Speaker 1: be added to that room. I just look at their

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Speaker 1: actions to I mean, what one little thing on Dalton

551
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 1: to find the Bengals. And you know there have been

552
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 1: messier quarterback team scenarios than Dalton and the Bengals. I'm

553
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Speaker 1: not sure I want to move him at this point.

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00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 1: I mean, what's the worst thing about right, I mean,

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00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 1: there have been some reporting that the Bengals are open

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Speaker 1: to keeping any Dalton and he'd be um certainly more

557
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 1: generous to incoming quarterback than some veterans we can think of.

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Speaker 1: And there's just nothing about the Patriots chasing after any

559
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Speaker 1: of these signal callers that we keep wanting to link

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Speaker 1: them with. I mean, there's just no buzz around it

561
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Speaker 1: on any level. But that's also they're pretty buzz proof

562
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 1: building they are. But I mean, you know, something would

563
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Speaker 1: leak out if they were fascinated with with Andy Dalton

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Speaker 1: or Cam Newton. I just feel like we'd have a

565
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Speaker 1: little tiny tidbit of info suggested or they did something

566
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Speaker 1: about it. But to your point in terms of it

567
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Speaker 1: being a mystery, if we hit late August and no

568
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Speaker 1: one wants Cam Newton still and he's out there for

569
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Speaker 1: almost nothing, I mean to me that then that changes

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Speaker 1: the equation. It's different than being aggressive. Or you get

571
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Speaker 1: to camp and Stidham is a total dult, I mean,

572
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Speaker 1: then maybe you make them. I mean they've they've they've

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Speaker 1: had him in the building, they watched them play a

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Speaker 1: hundred times in practice or whatever it is, and they

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Speaker 1: obviously like him a lot. I kind of remember him

576
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Speaker 1: stinking out to join against the Jets in the preseason.

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Speaker 1: What if Stidham is their guy and then he plays

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Speaker 1: really poorly all through the summer. I mean he he

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Speaker 1: had a solid preseason. It wasn't like unbelievable. It was

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Speaker 1: easily the best rookie preseason they've ever had out of

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Speaker 1: a quarterback. But what you know, it was a lot

582
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Speaker 1: of a lot of dinking and duncan. I mean, Dan,

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Speaker 1: if I were you, I just keep it, keep this

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00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: tamping down. You want him playing against the Jets, I

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00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: don't want I also don't want them going three and

586
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 1: thirteen and getting Trevor Lawrence April, so you know it's

587
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 1: it's it's tough sitch, all right, mark Erop. You know,

588
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 1: for me, I'm trying to think of a coach who

589
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 1: left on worst terms. Um went into the wilderness and

590
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 1: had one of the more um inconceivably hyped up PR

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00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 1: campaigns about his return than Mike McCarthy. And when we're

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Speaker 1: told that Mike McCarthy is a completely new human being,

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Speaker 1: that um, you know, by watching tape during his year

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00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 1: away from football, he's learned so much, UM, despite the

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00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: fact that he was a coach for plus years before that,

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00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 1: and that we're you know, he's a perfect fit for

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys. And my question is, because it is a

598
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Speaker 1: mystery to me, is how much has Mike McCarthy actually changed,

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00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: Because there are two versions of Mike McCarthy. You get

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Speaker 1: a is this one that we're told has completely um

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00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 1: had a come to Jesus moment and sees offensive football

602
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 1: in a completely different way, or be um the one

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Speaker 1: who basically lost that power uh power clash with Aaron

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00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 1: Rodgers unlike Matt Laflour at this point and basically rode

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Speaker 1: himself out of Town on an offense that when he

606
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: was last coaching, you know, it was viewed as archaic,

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00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 1: um unmoving, uh, you know, unable to change with the

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00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 1: times the way the teams in the NFC were. So

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Speaker 1: you know you've kept Kellen Moore. UM. I like that

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Speaker 1: as a first move to say, maybe we marry what

611
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 1: the Cowboys do will well and marry we marry a

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00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 1: little bit of what Mike McCarthy feels at home with. UM.

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Speaker 1: I want to see that. I I wouldn't keep Kellen

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Speaker 1: Moore unless you wanted to use some of his ingenuity.

615
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: I thought that. You know, for a time last year

616
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: he roamed as the coordinator of the year material until

617
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,959
Speaker 1: some of the wheels fell off. You've got no end

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00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 1: to the talent on that offense, and there are no

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Speaker 1: excuses from Mike McCarthy. He's not taking over some sort

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00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 1: of broken down two and fourteen team with a long leaf.

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Speaker 1: You've got Jerry Jones adding Ceedee Lamb to a totally

622
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 1: stocked wide receiver room. I just wonder will we get

623
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Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy in a way we've never experienced or the

624
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: same old thing. Is there something to be said that

625
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy was viewed as the boogeyman in Green Bay,

626
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 1: and then he gets dumped, and then they bring in

627
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 1: a kid to be the new head coach, a bearded boy.

628
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 1: And now that bearded boy was just behind drafting a

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Speaker 1: first round quarterback because Aaron Rodgers had become a pain

630
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 1: in the ass and maybe as part of the reason

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Speaker 1: that offense isn't as good anymore. I'm not saying I'm

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Speaker 1: not defriending McCarthy. I just find it interesting that McCarthy

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Speaker 1: was viewed as the problem capital t capital p and

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Speaker 1: then the often stayed kind of blah last season after

635
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Speaker 1: he left. They also won six or seven more games

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00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: or whatever whatever it was, so that but he's done

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00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 1: that before. I mean, he had a great he I

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00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 1: think it at the end of Green Bay was not great,

639
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,239
Speaker 1: but he had a great run there when he had

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Speaker 1: I think eight ends of ten plus games over eleven years.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he got old. I get that side. I think

642
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: there's some reason to believe that he's gonna let Kellen

643
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,320
Speaker 1: Moore be Kellen Moore and that he's going to be

644
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: more of kind of executive type coach. That's what he said.

645
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:15,720
Speaker 1: I mean, Kellen Moore is going to call the plays

646
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 1: and Kelly. There was some talk that Garrett kind of

647
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: stepped in, and people wanted to blame Garrett for why

648
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 1: the offense got a little more conservative under Kellen Moore

649
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,839
Speaker 1: down the stretch. Maybe maybe McCarthy him turning the new

650
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: leaf is kind of letting Kellen Moore fly. I would

651
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 1: ask you this though, So they hired Mike McCarthy uh

652
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 1: to play executive role, not because of Mike McCarthy's offensive

653
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 1: playbook or ingenuity that that is that alone would be

654
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 1: that would make sense to me, because I think that

655
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 1: was his strength. You know, his his plays were not

656
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 1: his strength. His his strength I thought was kind of

657
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,800
Speaker 1: an organizational cohesion. Like he was an adult leading the

658
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 1: room who hired good people who kind of it works,

659
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 1: seemed to work well, and and like he always seemed

660
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 1: good at that part of the job, just play calling.

661
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 1: You know, he's fine. What to your point, Dan, I

662
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 1: think we all kind of bought, by all of us,

663
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:14,800
Speaker 1: I mean the COGNICENTI bought. We bought the storyline that

664
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: McCarthy's offense had grown stale, and that's the reason why

665
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: he left. That's the reason why he was pushed out

666
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: the relationship with Rogers didn't work anymore because McCarthy's offense

667
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: had grown stale. If you're reading between the lines on

668
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 1: Bob McGain and if you're watching Rogers play. We talked

669
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: about it at the end of last year when I

670
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,399
Speaker 1: was saying, look at all these plays he's passing up

671
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 1: because he wants to make the spectacular play. Maybe the

672
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 1: truth is a lot closer to both of them were

673
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 1: at fault. Maybe the offense did grow stale, but maybe

674
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 1: it wasn't working because Aaron Rodgers wouldn't work with the offense.

675
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: And when you hear guys like James Jones, who played

676
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,280
Speaker 1: quite a few years under McCarthy, say nothing but great

677
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 1: things about him and say, of course, the Cowboys got

678
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 1: a great coach. To me, maybe we should shift away

679
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,439
Speaker 1: from the narrative that McCarthy only left Green Bay because

680
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 1: his offense was stale. Alright, Chris Westling, you're up. Albert

681
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: brial Brier did a really nice job on his post

682
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 1: draft column looking at the quarterbacks and why they were

683
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 1: chosen and what people liked about them. When I read

684
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: that Joe Burrow piece, I mean, I don't want to

685
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:28,800
Speaker 1: sound like this guy, but it feels like it's about

686
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 1: to be cool to be a Bengals fan again. And

687
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 1: I can't remember ever thinking that that it's it's going

688
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 1: to be cool. And this guy is gonna save Zach

689
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 1: Taylor's job, That's what. That's the sense I get that

690
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 1: he is so beloved by his teammates and everybody in

691
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 1: every building he's been in. He's a natural leader. He

692
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 1: has the mind that you want in a quarterback and

693
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:55,399
Speaker 1: the personality you want in a quarterback. Um, if he's

694
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 1: going to save Zach Taylor's job, to me, the unsolved

695
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 1: mystery is is Zach Taylor are a good coach? What

696
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 1: are we gonna find out about Zach Taylor's coaching ability

697
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 1: through Joe Burrow? Ye? I, well, no, I I had

698
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 1: a very similar mystery about Zach Taylor. They have a

699
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: O C and d C who are both with one

700
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 1: year of experience at that role, and Zach Taylor, I mean,

701
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 1: I get number one. I love that they didn't fire

702
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 1: him because I don't like these one and done situations

703
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 1: when what they were dealing with a lot last year.

704
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: But I cannot imagine or remember a first year of

705
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 1: coach that you know when coach sixteen games and came

706
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 1: out with less of an identity. I have no concept

707
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 1: of who Zach Taylor is or what the coaching philosophy

708
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 1: is in Cincinnati at all. Now that could change entirely,

709
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 1: but I'm totally with you on that being an unsolved mystery.

710
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,479
Speaker 1: Now he has a chance, and yeah, not just a chance,

711
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 1: like it's he is set up pretty well. And I

712
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 1: like their draft because I like the idea of it

713
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 1: turns out. Now if at the time a few months ago,

714
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 1: it felt like Bengals being Bengals, but now the idea

715
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,839
Speaker 1: that A. J. Green is there makes a ton of sense,

716
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: and it gets you even more excited because he is

717
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 1: potentially back to his old self. And now you have

718
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: Tee Higgins, who they took him the first pick of

719
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 1: the second round, another explosive receiver. So you're lined up

720
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 1: really well at wide receiver. If this if this guy

721
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 1: can play, and you get the offensive lineman back that

722
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,320
Speaker 1: didn't didn't even play a snap last year, there's a

723
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 1: real chance that they become one of those teams. And

724
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: it happens every once in a while that it goes

725
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 1: from two and fourteen to playoff contender in December, like

726
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: I would not be stunned if they're hanging around in

727
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:31,839
Speaker 1: the a f C, especially with an extra playoff spot

728
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: to meet. Quarterbacks for the most part, make coaches, not

729
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 1: the other way around. And Burrow, I mean, there was

730
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 1: some negativity about his arm strength and like, oh, is

731
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 1: he like a you know, rich Man's Alex Smith or

732
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton. It's like, give me a break when you

733
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: look at his athleticism that the third and seventeen play

734
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 1: he makes against Texas early in the year, where there's

735
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 1: three or four clear rushers coming at him and he

736
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,040
Speaker 1: moves in the pocket and makes it ridiculous throw o

737
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 1: on the move, which saves their undefeated season. They maybe

738
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 1: don't win that game, Like that's the type of next

739
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: level like quarterbacking you can't teach and like Alex Smith

740
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: and end it all, they don't. They don't. They don't

741
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: got that. This guy can make Zach Taylor, you know,

742
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 1: look a lot better than Zach Taylor is. Well it's

743
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 1: been a long time now, but I remember Greg specifically

744
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: liking what he heard from Zach Taylor last year coming

745
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 1: out of all the press conference. I think publicly he

746
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:25,839
Speaker 1: he does a really good job still and I even

747
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 1: think that now when I when I watched him in

748
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 1: these interviews, and we were really impressed with him in

749
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 1: Week one when they went into Seattle and almost upset

750
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 1: the Seahawks, and then after that everybody got injured and

751
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:39,439
Speaker 1: they went months without winning the game. Well, I would

752
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,720
Speaker 1: just say this, though, You've got guys like Brian Flores

753
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 1: to who were given absolutely nothing to work with, and

754
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 1: we're coming out of that season thinking that Brian Flores

755
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 1: is a huge asset, and I I'm glad again, I'm

756
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 1: glad they kept Zach Taylor. It would have been unfair

757
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:55,800
Speaker 1: to they were competitive when they led. They led ten games,

758
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:57,839
Speaker 1: which I think is an NFL record to only get

759
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 1: two wins in the second half. So it's they weren't

760
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 1: like a terror, you know, as two and fourteen teams

761
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 1: go or did they win to or one? I can't

762
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 1: even was two. I kind of it's funny you brought

763
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 1: up Brian Flores to me. He's in the same boat

764
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 1: on the kind of the opposite end where you know

765
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 1: nothing about Zach Taylor, who had a terrible roster and

766
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 1: injuries and went too and fourteen. Flores was very it

767
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,800
Speaker 1: was very publicly being set up that this is the

768
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: worst roster perhaps ever, and then by getting to the

769
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 1: five wins with the strong finish, he looks like a

770
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 1: coach that's gonna be there for a decade. But now

771
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 1: he has a big test ahead of him now, which

772
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 1: is actually some expectations, and going five and eleven is

773
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 1: not gonna be drawing a parade anymore. So it's it's

774
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: tough business being a head coach in the league, and

775
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody's safe that year two is gonna

776
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 1: be big for both of those guys. Greg, You're up

777
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 1: all right? Um? Like Colleen Wills, sometimes I'm not sure

778
00:40:53,760 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 1: I totally understood this exercise because my unsolvedst know I

779
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 1: had to be team specific. But I think this works

780
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 1: because to me, you know, we're living in an unsolved mystery.

781
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 1: I mean, the world, the world is a mystery. I'm

782
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 1: waiting for that music to come in. You know, the

783
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:20,720
Speaker 1: world is an unsolved mister right now to the NFL

784
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 1: solved mysteries. What happened America, however, relates to the NFL

785
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 1: at least to start, I'm going to start with, is

786
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 1: I'm really interested? And I know this sounds weird about

787
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: this whole supplemental draft. I know this sounds crazy, but

788
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 1: I really think we're living in this fascinating time college football.

789
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 1: There's a good chance it's not going to be played

790
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 1: in the phone because schools are going to have to

791
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 1: be back. I mean, our California governor said like he

792
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: did not expect anyone to attend every any sporting events

793
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 1: until there's some therapeutic treatment. Maybe that'll pop up. Who knows.

794
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: If there's no college football in the fall and there's

795
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 1: not gonna be much information out the next month or

796
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 1: two before players have decide, are like seventy players gonna

797
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 1: come out and this supplemental draft is it gonna be

798
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:11,959
Speaker 1: a totally different experience than any supplemental draft in history.

799
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 1: Because if you're at Missouri right now and you were

800
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 1: like a borderline third round pick and you were thinking

801
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: of coming out but you thought, no, let's go back

802
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 1: to school one more year, try to bump that up.

803
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 1: What is the point of going back to college? Like

804
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 1: there might not be a college to go back to,

805
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 1: there might not be college football to go back to,

806
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 1: and you could go start your NFL career and earn

807
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 1: a living. It's gonna be tricky. To decide who who

808
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,959
Speaker 1: can make it and who who doesn't. But I feel

809
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: like it's something. It could be this wave that's gonna

810
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 1: happen and and it's gonna give us something to talk about.

811
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm totally wrong, but we might be doing some

812
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 1: supplemental drafts from now. They've talked and this has been

813
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 1: out there, that supplemental draft could be a huge option

814
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 1: for people. And there there is you know, when you

815
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 1: go through the potential scenarios for college football, there's one

816
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: where you know, yes, you don't have the autumn because

817
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 1: it's different than the pros. Don't You don't just go

818
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: playing an empty stadium the students in in like back

819
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,320
Speaker 1: at school for this to happen. So there's a world

820
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 1: where maybe college football the season begins in February. They've said, well,

821
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 1: that's completely ridiculous with the NFL calendar. I mean, that's

822
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 1: fine for the idea of college football games being played,

823
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 1: but if you're looking at the draft versus just playing

824
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 1: out your senior season and becoming an accountant, well, you

825
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 1: don't play that season, you don't get hurt two months

826
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 1: before the draft, And it just seems completely unfeasible to me.

827
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 1: And I think that there's got to be agents talking

828
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 1: to certain prospects and players saying, supplemental draft maybe your

829
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 1: best chance to maximize a draft pick. Handsome Hank might

830
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,879
Speaker 1: have to farm out his supplemental mock draft this year.

831
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 1: If that goes on, you might have to break Jeremiah

832
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 1: back from break. I guess he's not going anywhere this year.

833
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:54,760
Speaker 1: So it's like, alright, for the supplemental draft for three weeks,

834
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 1: get ready? Well what happens if there's no college season

835
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: and then the two NFL draft? Right? I mean, I

836
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:07,839
Speaker 1: just want the Yankees back. Good luck with that. We're

837
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 1: living in an unsoved mystery? Are humans soon to be history?

838
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 1: Who's got the next line? It's so clear for all

839
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 1: of us to see. Um, that's the next line, So

840
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 1: clear for all of us to see bad line, that

841
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 1: we're living in an unsolved mystery. All right, we're swimming

842
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 1: in a pool of pa That's not exactly Bob Dylan,

843
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 1: do you want to do one more speed round? Real quick?

844
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:45,879
Speaker 1: Anybody got any in the chamber? I had one ready,

845
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 1: but I don't. I don't need to. Why do we

846
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 1: not even give? Why don't why don't we we don't

847
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 1: even need to like dig in. Let's just run some music, Ricky,

848
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,720
Speaker 1: and then everybody take turns until you run out. Okay,

849
00:44:54,960 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 1: I'll go first. Where the hell as Jadaveon Clowney go

850
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 1: Seattle took to Leo type guys. So this is a

851
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 1: true speed round. We just I'll throw it out there.

852
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 1: I want to know, um who Baker Mayfield and Sam

853
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 1: Donald dark. I would wonder I'd be concerned if they

854
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Speaker 1: if they flopped this year, that those both those teams

855
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 1: might quietly start looking out to her. I want to

856
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 1: know the day the NFL season starts and the structure

857
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: of that regular r Cam Newton's days as a franchise

858
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 1: quarterback over. Have the Lions ended the curse of Barry Sanders,

859
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 1: DeAndre Swift come out? Will Kyle Shanahan let Jimmy Garoppolo

860
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 1: throw the ball more than five yards down the field

861
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 1: this season? How about this? He is Matt Nagy an

862
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:08,280
Speaker 1: NFL head coach or someone pretending to be an NFL

863
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 1: head coach? Out of the draft, I you've decided that

864
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 1: Nick Foles is where you're going this season. Good luck

865
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 1: with that one. Eagles were cool with that once. Pot

866
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 1: All right, looks like we're fresh apple. Uh did you

867
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: know that the Reggie? Remember when Reggie ran for one

868
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 1: thousand and six yards and then bought everybody on the

869
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 1: team those scooters in Detroit? Was Reggie Bush, our old friend. Um.

870
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 1: That was the last lines one thousand yard rusher two

871
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:49,720
Speaker 1: thousand thirteen, one thousand and six yards, and the lines

872
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 1: have ranked in the bottom half of the NFL and

873
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 1: rushing and every season since Barry Sanders retired after campaign. Well,

874
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: they went into last year wanting to be a run,

875
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 1: orient to the offense and finish. Remember west who read

876
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 1: who led the Lions in rushing with four hundred and

877
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 1: three yards last year? Carry on Johnson correct, he still

878
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:14,800
Speaker 1: gotta folks. Don't forget about the west Hill Scarborough heads.

879
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,439
Speaker 1: Remember when Reggie like lost seven yards on a pitch

880
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 1: play in Buffalo and ended up negative yards for the season.

881
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 1: That's his career ended, I think. Sorry, Remember when he

882
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 1: was on our show for like five straight weeks and

883
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 1: then he disappeared and we never saw him again. Didn't

884
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:34,240
Speaker 1: that happen to? Barry sand drives around in Santa Monica

885
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 1: in a golf cart all the time, but I have

886
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 1: never once seeing that golf cart. Maybe it's a different

887
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 1: Maybe it's a nicer part of Santa Monica than I

888
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,399
Speaker 1: I know. Mark. I think Barris Sanders, I think that's

889
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 1: where you go. I think he had a negative game

890
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 1: in the playoffs against the Packers. Well, I thought that

891
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 1: he crossed two thousand, then got stuffed for a loss

892
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 1: and went under two thousand, and then got back over

893
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 1: two thousand. I don't think. But that's because he had

894
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 1: like a I remember it against the Jets, and it

895
00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: was about a sixty yard run that put him well over.

896
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 1: But I could be wrong. Who knows. Another unsolved mystery. Alright,

897
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 1: have have an unsolved conundrum for you guys, all right,

898
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:13,839
Speaker 1: hit it, ricky. So my neighbors on one side are

899
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,359
Speaker 1: the happy hour neighbors. They're great, this older couple, they're

900
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 1: very nice. On the other side was the black sheep

901
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 1: of the neighborhood. They moved out. Nobody ever talked to

902
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 1: them because when they came in, they had just decided

903
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 1: they weren't gonna be friendly with anyone. So a new

904
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 1: neighbor moved in, and this is the nicest house in

905
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:32,359
Speaker 1: the block. We have the smallest house in the block.

906
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 1: The new neighbor told me he was coming from Clia

907
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 1: del Rey, where he had the highest house with the

908
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 1: best ocean view in all of Clio del Ray. The

909
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 1: guy's got plenty of what right I'm trying to He's

910
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 1: a really nice guy. We've been trying to figure out,

911
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 1: you know, what he does? Who he is. The other

912
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 1: neighbors tell us yesterday he's a writer, and I know

913
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:56,840
Speaker 1: his first name, so it kind of jugged something in me,

914
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 1: and I looked it up and I don't want to

915
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:00,879
Speaker 1: ruin his privacy or anything, so I'm not gonna say

916
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,720
Speaker 1: who he is, but he's I've read one of his books.

917
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,360
Speaker 1: He's written multiple best sellers that have turned into like

918
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 1: blockbuster movies. Like you guys would know who he's his

919
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 1: name is now in order to have a normal, friendly

920
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 1: neighborly relationship, should I ever let on that I know

921
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 1: who he is and I've read his books? Or should

922
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:22,240
Speaker 1: I just say nothing of your neighbor is John Grisham.

923
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:26,800
Speaker 1: I'd say he's sub John Grisham on the celebrity scale,

924
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 1: but absolutely, you you know, honesty is the best policy.

925
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 1: Why not? I mean, what what writer doesn't like caring

926
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 1: that you like his buck? But there's a fine line

927
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 1: between like famboeing out on him. It's fan it's more

928
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:45,799
Speaker 1: of a fan boy to like go out of your

929
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 1: way to not be real with him when Chris Wesley

930
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 1: is one of the more, you know, most real guys.

931
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:51,320
Speaker 1: I know, yeah, I don't don't have it like you

932
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 1: don't only the fanboy DNA do you really like? I

933
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:55,800
Speaker 1: think you're gonna hand It's about how you'd handle it

934
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 1: versus withholding your knowledge of him, and I think you'd

935
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 1: handle it pretty Maybe wouldn't roll over there after twenty

936
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:03,879
Speaker 1: two beers or something, but you know how the first

937
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 1: meeting be real nice. This is where the big great

938
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 1: green egg comes in handy for Standen King and Chris Wesley,

939
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 1: not Stephen King, You and Charlie Kaufman. Uh is a

940
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 1: screenwriter and an author. He said it's been turned into movies.

941
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:25,320
Speaker 1: You and Michael Sabin, you know, just kicking back in

942
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 1: the old name of that ILK. Michael of that ILK,

943
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:30,760
Speaker 1: I'd say a better writer than him, though, Michael Hardon,

944
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:34,399
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a Politz erprise. You're saying he's better

945
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 1: than that. Maybe maybe that's my own personal bias, but

946
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 1: when I read this guy's first work, which came out

947
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 1: like fifteen years ago. I remember thinking for that genre,

948
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 1: for like the thriller genre, the literature is fantastic. Oh

949
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 1: you just dropped the breadcrumb for the audience. There you go.

950
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,400
Speaker 1: Also from the Northeast, but now lives in Los Angeles.

951
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 1: Obviously he's not gonna be happy when there's seven people

952
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 1: outside his house. Chris Westling sent us, well, they don't

953
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 1: have to figure out where I live first. Um, all right,

954
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:10,319
Speaker 1: that's good. Nice goods there. All right, all right, let's

955
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 1: let us know who you think it is. I guess,

956
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 1: but don't don't get it right, I like it. Um,

957
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 1: all right, that's it. We'll be back on Thursday with

958
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:24,360
Speaker 1: our really it's our third show of the week. The

959
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 1: Saturday show went up late. Really is a Sunday show,

960
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 1: and then, uh, I believe gentlemen, will get back onto

961
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 1: our normal off season schedule. We do Monday, Wednesday, Friday.

962
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 1: Is that what we're doing? Yeah, yeah, so that's the plan.

963
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 1: And this was Yeah, this was indeed our one thousandth episode.

964
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 1: Good stuff, and thank you everybody. And remember a reminder

965
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 1: for more information, resources and details on how to support

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00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:56,520
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00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:04,000
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00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 1: it's got that Comedy Central gaap. That's right, not for

970
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 1: much longer. But the uh what is that? Are you

971
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 1: breaking something here? Well? The uh if you're gonna you know,

972
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 1: the last episode of season two of the Jesson, Luck

973
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:21,279
Speaker 1: and Rosenthal Vanity Project goes up on Wednesday, and uh, yeah,

974
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 1: you know, listeners of the show will not be surprised.

975
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:25,840
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know if there's gonna be a

976
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 1: season three at Comedy Central. Might have to go elsewhere.

977
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:32,360
Speaker 1: We'll see, here's an unsolved mystery. You're the producer of

978
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:36,800
Speaker 1: that program. Do you think you've produced your last episode

979
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:40,839
Speaker 1: of the j r VP podcast? Yeah, we're I think

980
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 1: this is it. No, no worries on I would say,

981
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:47,320
Speaker 1: very little concern that it would be the last episode,

982
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 1: but it might be might be the last with Comedy Central. Yes,

983
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:56,839
Speaker 1: well there's another unsolved mystery. And as promised, we will

984
00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 1: go out today with a great HUO Connor who authored

985
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 1: up really let's call it a celebration of the one

986
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 1: thousandth episode uh Nay parody of Billy Joel. You ever

987
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 1: overrated Billy Joel? We didn't start the fire? His version here,

988
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 1: O'Connor's version dedicated to the Round They NFL podcast Take

989
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 1: It Away, Hugh Hants his man, and Gregg at home

990
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Speaker 1: is on the telephone. Sessler Round his motel room podcast

991
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Speaker 1: Happen in Nova Zoom, Rickey still behind the glass heroes

992
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Speaker 1: canst I'm kicking as world outside is burning down. At

993
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 1: least it's not the Cleveland Browns. But then ever stop

994
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Speaker 1: the podcast? Not the tracks keep turn while the world

995
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 1: is burning? Then ever stopped the podcast? Yet? Despite the one,

996
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 1: they just keep recording. Dang it. Story's triple source. Gregg

997
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 1: is on the tennis Court's Westerner's Football History marks a

998
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 1: man of Mr gree What's more likely? Sandwich prompts time

999
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,760
Speaker 1: to bring on Connie Fox, one of the ten best friends.

1000
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,320
Speaker 1: She will give us something that picking team of a

1001
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Speaker 1: t f ah. It's also well Colts is undertok once

1002
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 1: your favorite type of frog? Then ever tump the podcast?

1003
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 1: Nor the tracks keep turning while the world is burning?

1004
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:14,320
Speaker 1: Then never stopped the podcast? Suser in the morning. Despite

1005
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 1: all the morning check in with the Throne of Sleeves

1006
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:20,360
Speaker 1: Brades Council, Gregg is pleased marks of course, the Cleveland

1007
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 1: Brands West has left as Midwest Town. Dan is hopeful

1008
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 1: for Gang Green. Could they meet his Braves team and

1009
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 1: spend more time in Kicker Club kai is Kaya, there's

1010
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 1: the rock when the world is looking leave. These guys

1011
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:33,359
Speaker 1: give five shows a week, killing it most every day

1012
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:37,319
Speaker 1: while there's two eyes to say. Then never start the podcast.

1013
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 1: Nor the tracks keep turning while the world is burning,

1014
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 1: then never stopped the podcast. When the world hit Zeals,

1015
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 1: we still got Heros, then and stop the podcast. No,

1016
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:54,879
Speaker 1: the tracks keep turning while the world is burning, then

1017
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:59,360
Speaker 1: never start the podcast. When the world hits Zeros, we

1018
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 1: still are our heroes.