1 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: Some of the content of Patriots Unfiltered may not be 2 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: suitable for all audiences. Listener discretion is advised. 3 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 2: The World's a Vigeon podcast. 4 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:22,119 Speaker 1: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. During the Brady years, we've watched 5 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: a preseason game. Boy, our twos and threes aren't as 6 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: good as their twos and threes. Right, we said that 7 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: a lot. 8 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 3: I'm sure I did. 9 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: I don't know we did. 10 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 3: I don't really I haven't really cared about the preseason 11 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 3: a a lot. 12 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: Okay, that's my point. 13 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 4: The team I think that's gonna win the Super Bowl 14 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 4: is like a ninety eight. The team that they think 15 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 4: are the worst in the league are like a seventy. 16 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 4: You know, they're kind of nice about it. 17 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 5: That's Madden. 18 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 4: There, there's your Maden minute. 19 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 6: My son kills me in madd and it's so frustrated, 20 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 6: that's embarrassing and kills me. I'm getting off cocky and 21 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 6: I'm like, oh, I'm gonna hit you with the blitz 22 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 6: right here, and he's just like, man touchdown. 23 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 7: Evan's very smart. Obviously, he knows a lawn. Thank You's 24 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 7: very good within his own lane. 25 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 3: Thank you. 26 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 8: That being said, Evan is a little bit of a 27 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 8: no at all. Now they still have a clutch, you said, yeah, 28 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 8: but they have a paddle shift tattle shifting cars. You 29 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 8: don't use the clutch and a pattleship that he. 30 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 1: Wow, thanks me boom wait. I'm sweet kid. Rights. It 31 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 1: haven't heard from him in a long time. Melvin and Tennessee. 32 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: I spent the summer studying the English language so that 33 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: I can sound smarter. So far, I've learned three new words. 34 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 1: I don't know what those words are though yet. Anyway, 35 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: this is Patriots Unfiltered, presented by Toyota's official website for 36 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 1: deals by a Toyota dot com. All right, welcome to 37 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 1: Patriots Unfiltered. It is Thursday here at j Let's Stadium, 38 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 1: and we've got a lot to talk about, starting with 39 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 1: all the transactions that have happened over the last couple 40 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: of days, but also today the NFL and the Patriots 41 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: revealed the rivalries jerseys. I guess there's eight teams that'll 42 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: be wearing rivalry jerseys this year. Patriots are one of them. 43 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: They'll be wearing them against the Jets when they play 44 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: that game in November. And we've got our hands on 45 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: some of the swag, including the actual jersey and helmet 46 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: and some of the sideline gear, and we'll get into 47 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: that a little later in the show. Mike will actually uh, 48 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: he'll uh. 49 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought we were getting a player. 50 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 6: That was going to come in here and you're playing 51 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 6: I'm not a player. 52 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, yeah, I just did a take over there. 53 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 3: Okay, that was one of the most genuinely funny things 54 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 3: you've ever said. 55 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: Say it again. 56 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 3: True people were talking. 57 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: It's a joke, all right. So we're gonna we've got 58 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: our hands on this rivalry stuff and we're gonna look 59 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 1: up close and get into all the details. 60 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 9: Uh. 61 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: I know people have opinions on it, like, you know, 62 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 1: should have been read, should have been I like it. 63 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: I happen to like it, and we're going to get 64 00:02:56,160 --> 00:03:00,519 Speaker 1: into that. But first, it's Evan, Paul, Alex Dude, myself, 65 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: matt Na Booth, and let's talk about the cuts and 66 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 1: transactions that have transpired, because they're coming fast and furious. 67 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: Who wants to lead it off? 68 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 5: Oh my lord, I start. 69 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: I want to go all the way back to Tuesday, 70 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 1: or well since since our last I know you talked 71 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:20,119 Speaker 1: a lot about it on Catch two. Yes, did. 72 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 4: We got and we got to the bottom of it. 73 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 4: Of course, talked a lot about eight receivers for twenty 74 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 4: minutes and then now I only have six receivers, you know, 75 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 4: things like. 76 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:29,959 Speaker 6: A good place to start, you know, it's just kid's 77 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 6: initial like eight. And now Kendrick Bourne is gone, and 78 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 6: Javon Baker's a little bit in limbo reports that he 79 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 6: might want to come back for the practice squad. 80 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 5: I don't know if I really believe it. 81 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 6: Evan was just out of practice though, yeah, I was. 82 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 4: Just out of practice. And they do have a couple 83 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 4: of new faces. It seems like on the practice squad, 84 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 4: maybe some practice squad movement. I we'll find out later today, 85 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 4: but no Christian Gonzales still in street clothes. He's there 86 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 4: physically but not practicing. And today no Anthony Jennings, which 87 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 4: put up some intennas about what situation is with that. 88 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 4: So well, we'll see what happens with that. 89 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: But already happen. 90 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, but Gonzalez continues to come out to practice 91 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 4: in street clothes, watch practice. 92 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 6: Uh, we can worry, worried forever small get him. 93 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 3: It's not about week one. I'm not concerned. I'm concerned 94 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 3: that this is a significant hamstring injury and those linger. 95 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm giving give him every day he can, you 96 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: can give him with a hamstring. 97 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I'm I. I wasn't concerned about it. I 98 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 4: was very adamant about that. But him not being back 99 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 4: out there for these two practices is small sea concerned, 100 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 4: I think is a little bit a good way to 101 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 4: describe it, because now they're behind closed doors. We're not 102 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 4: watching practice anymore at this point. So I thought this 103 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 4: would be maybe a target date for him to return 104 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 4: once the media can't watch him running around and stuff 105 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 4: like that and have all their opinions on how he looks. 106 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 4: And now we haven't been out there the last two 107 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 4: days and he has not been particed. 108 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 1: But what you're seeing today is what we'll see for 109 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 1: the rest of the season in terms of practice. 110 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 3: Yes, So I figured that's why he thought Bellas would 111 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 3: be back, right. 112 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 4: I figured what we had Monday's practice was the last 113 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 4: one that was open to the media, and then I 114 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 4: kind of thought, of, you know, that's what Bill would 115 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 4: have done. He would have said, oh, like you want 116 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 4: to see Gonzales, you can watch them stretch, you know. 117 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 4: So I think that. 118 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 3: Paul said it small sea concern. Yeah, yeah, it becomes 119 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 3: a capital scene next Wednesday. 120 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, he's on the report not practice. 121 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 10: If he did. 122 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 3: If he doesn't practice next Wednesday, I would worry about 123 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:41,840 Speaker 3: week one. 124 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 1: Now I'm worried. 125 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I get I just might worry is more 126 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 3: about the opener, like because if it's a game or whatever, 127 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 3: you know, that's if you needed more time. But with 128 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 3: soft tissue injuries for an elite athlete is a concern 129 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 3: for me because he relies on he needs to have 130 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 3: bad athleticism to be Gonzales. 131 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 6: I totally understand twitch your long term outlook and that's 132 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 6: how you're looking through it. I'd still find it just 133 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 6: a little disappointing that we got a couple of days 134 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 6: of him in practice and then he basically missed all 135 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 6: this training camp. 136 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 5: It's just not ideal. 137 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 6: And we know how Mike Rabel in the past has 138 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:20,479 Speaker 6: kind of felt about soft tissue injuries. And I was 139 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 6: on the boat with everybody else kind of like, all right, 140 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 6: they're gonna just manage him and then once it gets 141 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 6: dound the nitty gritty, he'll be back. 142 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: You know what. It reminds me of Randy Moss. 143 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 3: There's been a lot of talk about that then, Yeah. 144 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right. Bourne is interesting because there were rumors 145 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: that we were talking to Minnesota and then all of 146 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: a sudden, Minnesota signed Adam Thalen, and I think they 147 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 1: were looking at both guys. This is just a speculation. 148 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: They were looking at both guys, and Faling was the 149 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 1: easiest one because you didn't have to give up anything 150 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: for him. 151 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 3: Well, they traded for Falin instead of trading for Born. 152 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, but very little right like that. 153 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:00,919 Speaker 3: Some pick swaps sure arey similar. 154 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: But I don't know what the Patriots are asking for. 155 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's probably more to do with money. Yeah, 156 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 3: but I don't to you a point, we're just speculating, right, Yeah. 157 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 4: Unfamiliarity obviously with Minnesota and the Vikings, but it seemed 158 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 4: like they instead this is happening more and more. Instead 159 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 4: of acquiring picks, you actually just move up within the 160 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 4: same draft, So like you trade your own seventh for 161 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 4: their fifth. Yeah, so you just like move up like 162 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 4: the same way, the same trade the Patriots did for 163 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 4: Joe Milton, right where you're just instead of getting adding 164 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 4: a pick, you're actually just moving up like two rounds 165 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 4: day three pick swaps. 166 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: And so then reportedly again he was asked to be 167 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: released and the Patriots accommodated. 168 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 3: Well, he he says he asked to be released, right. 169 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 3: Rabel had a different take on that, did say, it's 170 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 3: kind of like your girlfriend after you break up and 171 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 3: you say, oh, yeah, I know, I broke. 172 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: Up with her too, I break up with you. 173 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 3: Correct, George, very well, very well done. Yeah, So it 174 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 3: all depends on who you believe. 175 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, either way, it was mutual. Yet either way, when 176 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: we saw eight receivers on the roster after cut day, 177 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: we were like, really. 178 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 3: Well, we knew they weren't going to have eight, but it 179 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 3: was jarring to see eight. 180 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. 181 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, seemed like I kind of thought that they were 182 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 4: maybe going to put Born on IR to start the year, 183 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 4: and they ended up not using the second IR return spot. 184 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 4: They only used one on Jelani TV, So they ended 185 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:36,439 Speaker 4: up kind of, you know, losing that opportunity there to 186 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 4: do it. And I think it's because they were probably 187 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 4: thought they were going to be trading Born. I think 188 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 4: they thought they had traction on a trade for Kendrick Bourne. 189 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 3: Now there's a lot of reporting out. 190 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 4: There that you laid out Fred and it didn't it 191 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 4: didn't materialize, and so then you end up having to 192 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:54,439 Speaker 4: just cut him. 193 00:08:54,600 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 6: So I don't know, Baker comments, I I I don't 194 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 6: think he's going to come back, And this is just 195 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 6: my opinion. He to me seems like the kind of 196 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 6: guy that had his feelings hurt. I know, he clearing 197 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 6: his Instagram out, which is always the big red fall. 198 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 11: This and then made the roster. So what was going 199 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 11: on there? And then he got released the next day. 200 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 4: Maybe there was communication that, but you're not actually on 201 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:24,439 Speaker 4: the own a house. 202 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, look, it's a good real estate market. 203 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 12: I don't know. 204 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 5: I'm over the Jayvon Baker of it all. 205 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 6: Like, I just don't think he's the kind of guy 206 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 6: that's going to redefine himself as a special teams player 207 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 6: and become a stalwart and do everything that's involved with 208 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 6: being a key special team player. I think he wants 209 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:44,959 Speaker 6: to be a receiver. I still think he thinks he 210 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 6: should be a receiver. And my impression of how it 211 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 6: seems is that he kind of had his feelings hurt 212 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 6: and now he's gonna go somewhere else and say I 213 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 6: want a fresh start. I want to try somewhere where 214 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 6: I can make it as a receiver, and you're not 215 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 6: going to be selling me on you have to be 216 00:09:58,320 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 6: a special teamer. 217 00:09:59,000 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: To be here. 218 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 3: I did like mac Hollins's comments on those, you know, 219 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 3: because he's been in that situation in the past where 220 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 3: you want to be a receiver, you think you're good 221 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 3: enough to be one of them, but your opportunity is 222 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 3: to contribute on special teams, and you do that and 223 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:17,319 Speaker 3: then you do it well, and then eventually those opportunities 224 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 3: will present themselves when injuries and things happened. So when 225 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,839 Speaker 3: he initially made the roster, I was thinking seven because, 226 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 3: like we said, they weren't going to take eight. I 227 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 3: you know, six to me is a lot, let alone 228 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 3: eight eight. It is absurd. I think the Chiefs have 229 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 3: like nine if you count Rashid Rice well, but he 230 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 3: made it, but Rice is suspended for the first six games. 231 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 3: But they actually have, you know, even more receivers. So 232 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 3: I think that was a really high number. But I 233 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 3: was wondering if Baker was taking the advice that Hollins 234 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 3: I thought was giving him and saying, because would you 235 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 3: have been stunned in the first game if the first 236 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 3: time the Patriots punted. It was Brendan Schooler on one 237 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,319 Speaker 3: side and Javon Baker on the other, No. 238 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 6: It would have been a little bit like I just 239 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:03,719 Speaker 6: you know, I love the experiment. I love trying to 240 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 6: help him to find a way. I just don't know 241 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 6: if he was really good at it or he was 242 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 6: ever going to be consistent. 243 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 3: Because no one's really paying attention. 244 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 4: I think he was good at it, but I do 245 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 4: agree with your premise of Matthew Slater was dedicated to 246 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 4: his craft, like he was somebody that was and had 247 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 4: that what's the word, like almost patience and and just 248 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 4: like ability to just understand his role and all that 249 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 4: kind of stuff, where he didn't really have like these 250 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 4: huge aspirations of like I'm a receiver and I should 251 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 4: be starting at receiver. And I think Brandon's Schooler is 252 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 4: in the same boat where Brendon Schooler is just trying 253 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 4: to be the best special teamer that he can possibly be, 254 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 4: and I don't know if Javon Baker would reinvent himself 255 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 4: into that kind of player. 256 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 3: So I totally agree with you guys, and I don't 257 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 3: know bad about Baker, but very few special teams guys 258 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 3: accept the fact that they're just special teams. 259 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:02,679 Speaker 1: Guys. 260 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:07,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, slaters and the schoolers of the world are outliers. 261 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,679 Speaker 3: More often than not. There are guys that are saying, yeah, Okay, 262 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 3: that's my that's my step into the league, that's my 263 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 3: way onto the roster. But I'm going to be something eventually, right, 264 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 3: That's how most of them. 265 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: You want them to think that, you want them to 266 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: aspire to be. 267 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 3: On the phone, I agree with you guys about Baker. 268 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 3: You know what little we know of him, his personality, you. 269 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 4: Know, his discipline, Like, does he his discipline. 270 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 3: In his obvious confidence? I don't know if you would 271 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 3: embrace that role, but by all accounts this summer he was. 272 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 3: He was doing that. So I wouldn't have been stunned 273 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 3: if he stayed on the roster and he was immediative 274 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 3: in week one. 275 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 11: So and he didn't the personality fit because Rabel's whole 276 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 11: thing has been earn a role and if that's the role, 277 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 11: you can earn, leverage it, you know, and keep working 278 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 11: towards it. If he's not willing to accept that, does 279 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 11: the personality fit in here? 280 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:57,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a it's a great, great point, and I 281 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:02,199 Speaker 3: wouldn't argue with Mike for or sort of being skeptical 282 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 3: he would I mean, is I think based on what 283 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 3: you know, you should be a little skeptical. 284 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 5: And it's up to It's up to Baker. 285 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 6: I mean, I think reports are they wanted him back 286 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 6: to come back to the practice squad, and if he 287 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 6: is willing to embrace that role and he likes New 288 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 6: England and he sees an opportunity here to grow, I mean, 289 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 6: there certainly is a lot of questions about the Wide 290 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 6: Receiver Corp going forward. I mean, it still seems to 291 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 6: me long term opportunity for sure him if he put 292 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 6: it all together. But I guess we'll find out today if. 293 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 3: And Mike Reese is the one who tweeted that he 294 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 3: was expected to be back on the practice squad. Correct. 295 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 1: Also, I hope they'll be serving chicken cutlets now in 296 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: the press box because. 297 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 3: If he likes Mexican food, Tommy DeVito. 298 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 1: Is, uh, everyone has been signed. 299 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 3: What if he like really likes like like Chinese. 300 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 1: Food, Okay, And everybody's just like, but what you know, 301 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: what do you make of the signing? And I kind 302 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: of teased it on Tuesday. I let people know one on. 303 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 13: The postgame show, You're like, I mean, he looks like 304 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 13: a functional third certain quarterback is probably gonna get so 305 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 13: I think they needed ahead of the current that but 306 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:06,959 Speaker 13: I think it's a move they had to make, and 307 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 13: I think they'll probably be more of these kind of 308 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 13: moves trying to round out some of their. 309 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 1: You think he's gonna vibe for the backup job, I. 310 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 4: Actually do if they give him the opportunities this time 311 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 4: of year. Obviously the opportunities are limited, but he does 312 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 4: feel like maybe a little bit of a better fit 313 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 4: for Josh McDaniels than Dobbs. I think Dobbs got a 314 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 4: little bit more physical talent than Tommy DeVito does. But 315 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 4: if you're looking for your backup quarterback to just come 316 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 4: in and not screw up, then I think there's more. 317 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 4: He's more consistent throwing the football. I think I think 318 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 4: his timing is a little bit better. Dobbs definitely has 319 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 4: a bigger arm and is more athletic, But I wonder 320 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 4: if maybe there's a better fit, you know, with backup 321 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 4: quarterbacks that the PFF numbers are just very very telling, 322 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 4: like he's down the bottom of the league in big 323 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 4: time throws down the bottom of the league against pressure, 324 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 4: but also up near the top of the league getting 325 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 4: turnover worthy plays in a good way. 326 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 6: Right, So he's like, I thought you're going with some positive. 327 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 3: Thing is possible? 328 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess I could have particulated that. 329 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 3: Understood. Yeah, So, but. 330 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 5: He's also terrible. 331 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 4: He doesn't turn them all over, but he also doesn't 332 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 4: make any like franchise quarterback plays. 333 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 5: Taylor sounds like quarterback. 334 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 4: So if you want a backup quarterback that's like maybe 335 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 4: a little bit more stable than a Josh Dobbs, I 336 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 4: think that Tommy DeVito fits that bill. 337 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 3: He kind of like Mac. 338 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 4: Jones and Bailey Zappy, like morphed together into one quarterback. 339 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 4: Like he's got a little bit of Zappy and he's 340 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 4: got a little bit of mac uh But at the 341 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 4: same time quarterback, Well, we're talking about the backup quarterback up, 342 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 4: we're not really the bar is not very high. That's 343 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 4: the way I would describe Tommy DeVito. So I could 344 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 4: see Josh favoring that like I did. 345 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 3: Dobbs. 346 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 4: To me, I don't know if he's a great fit 347 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 4: for the type of system they want to run all 348 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 4: the time because of his inaccuracies, like he's a little 349 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 4: bit wild throwing the football, or if you have to 350 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 4: throw a guy in the game, you just want him 351 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 4: to kind of run the system and hit the layups 352 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 4: and not screw up. And maybe Divido could be better at. 353 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he's limited athletically, but I think he's 354 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: decisive and I think he's fairly accurate, so you know, 355 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: in a in a pinch, you might be able to 356 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: come in and just you know, keep things, keep things 357 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: rolling until the big guy comes back. 358 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 3: I don't have any faith either way there. 359 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 11: I think from a content perspective, it's great because what 360 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 11: other third string quarterback are you going to get engagement 361 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 11: out of? 362 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 12: I say we take him to the north end. 363 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, like we've never had an Italian guy before. 364 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 4: I mean Rome and Anthony that there's something there or something. 365 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: All right, so h to me. The other notable one 366 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: is the release of Cold Strange, So the Cold Strange experiment, Mike. 367 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 3: They also claimed somebody else off of waivers. We probably 368 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,119 Speaker 3: should talk about Charles. 369 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 5: Woods special teams kind of a guy. 370 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:12,239 Speaker 6: So I think that's a little bit when I when 371 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 6: I saw them sign him, I wondered about Baker a 372 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 6: little bit because it seems like he's going to be 373 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 6: a gunner kind of a guy. So had some experience 374 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 6: last year's I believe an undrafted guy who made the team. 375 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 6: So they had two claims from them, and you know, 376 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 6: I would just say they still flew with the practice squad. 377 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:28,239 Speaker 6: I know, there were I think three new faces out 378 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 6: there today, but you know, ten of these guys are rookies. 379 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 6: Two of them were draft picks, so eight guys that 380 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 6: were their udfas and then you know a handful of 381 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 6: other guys with Lidstrom, Truman, Jones, Miles Battle Giles, Terrell Jennings, 382 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 6: and the international exemption for David Oligiga. So I just 383 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 6: found that interesting, And I mean maybe this is always 384 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 6: the case. Sometimes things happened and they're like, you know, 385 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 6: but just held on to a lot of their own rookies, 386 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 6: trying to build some of that depth. 387 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 3: Just why in the program. I don't know. I didn't 388 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 3: see the final numbers on how many actual waiver CLIs 389 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 3: games there were yesterday. They were thirty. Like that to 390 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 3: me makes a little sense, you know, let fewer than 391 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 3: one per team, because I think most teams they work 392 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 3: with their guys all summer, they want to retain them 393 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 3: on the practice squads, and I think that's what most 394 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 3: of the teams do rather than unless they have something 395 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 3: that's really glaring and they go out and they make 396 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 3: a move. But I'm not surprised that there's not a 397 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 3: tremendous amount of activity on that. 398 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 6: One thing I kind of noted I found interesting was 399 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 6: that the Bills had both Jordan Poyer and Harrison Opes. 400 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: What is that some feedback in here. 401 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 6: I hope they can, but the Bills have, you know, 402 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 6: they have little two veterans who have been around. Poyer 403 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 6: I know haven't been with the team for a while, 404 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 6: but a little bit more of like, oh, there, they've 405 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 6: got some veterans that they know that they might get 406 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 6: into the games. 407 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 3: That Boyer come back last year on the practice squad 408 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 3: late in the year, or is that hide. 409 00:18:58,480 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 5: Bringing them back? 410 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 6: But it's you know, I saw some of that in 411 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 6: the past with the Patriots, where they would have vested veterans. 412 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 6: I think on the practice squad is guys that man, 413 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:10,120 Speaker 6: these guys could be on a roster maybe, but yeah, career, 414 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 6: they don't. 415 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 4: Have any and they're one of the only teams that 416 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 4: don't have any vested veterans currently on the practice squad, 417 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 4: So I do wonder if that will change with some 418 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 4: of the moves that we're hearing about today. Three new guys, 419 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 4: it looks like maybe on the practice squad, but as 420 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:28,360 Speaker 4: of right now, they they have guys that were all 421 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 4: sixteen of the signings were in camp with the Patriots, 422 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 4: so you know they and they were all waiver guys, 423 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 4: guys that were on rookie contracts or early career. 424 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 3: You allowed the seventeenth because of o G. 425 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:42,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, so you have seventeen? Do you have a free 426 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:45,159 Speaker 4: spot on Ola Jiga on the practice squad? 427 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: So international pathway players. 428 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 4: Right, might as well just carry carry him from London London. 429 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 1: Great. 430 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 3: Great. 431 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 5: We got a great email, I guess I feel like 432 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 5: I read it. It was one of these shows. 433 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 6: We got an email from like his like teacher who 434 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 6: live in England and saying what a great guy he 435 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 6: is and how excited he was to follow his career and. 436 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 3: Did he use his hands when he sent the email 437 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 3: to jazz hands. 438 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 5: Very expressive when I talk a lot. 439 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 12: Of emojis in the email. 440 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, a little bit just quickly on on Charles Woods, 441 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 4: I feel like he profiles really similarly to Marcella's Dial, 442 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 4: and they obviously Dial was lost for the year. 443 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:23,199 Speaker 3: I think Dial was going to make the team and 444 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:25,640 Speaker 3: he would have been. Yeah, the gunner that we're talking 445 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 3: about school. 446 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 4: So similar, you know, five eleven, one ninety four or 447 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:35,719 Speaker 4: five guy that plays slot corner and gunner and special teams. 448 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 4: So a little bit similar in terms of the body 449 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 4: type in the role that he's played in LA over 450 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 4: the last couple of years and in camp. So I 451 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 4: kind of saw all that and was like, oh, maybe 452 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,719 Speaker 4: this is they're thinking if we would have had Marcella's 453 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 4: Dial in that role, so now we'll have we'll have 454 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 4: Woods in that role potentially. 455 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, it makes sense. The other thing with the roster 456 00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 3: that stood out to me is Ki Douger and Anthony 457 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 3: Jennings and where there their places and to a lesser 458 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 3: extent of brill peppers, you know, will we see more 459 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 3: in terms of trades? You know, we had reports, as 460 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 3: Fred said, about Kendrick Bourne being involved in a in 461 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 3: a trade scenario with Minnesota. Is there a taker for 462 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,479 Speaker 3: one of those guys, one of those veterans that seems 463 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 3: to have slipped down the death chart a little bit 464 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,199 Speaker 3: they're all still here as of now. Jennings wasn't out 465 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 3: at practice when when Evan was at that window. Be 466 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 3: interesting to see if there's any moves coming. 467 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: So, so what am I missing about Peppers? I thought 468 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: he was going to be a mainstay. I thought he 469 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: was going to be the lead safety and the reason 470 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 1: he played deep into the Giants was to see Woodson 471 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 1: next to him and how they played together. But like 472 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:50,919 Speaker 1: I have, Peppers maybe being. 473 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 6: A captain, I'd say this is a late development. 474 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 3: The last few practices he's been with the twos, so 475 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 3: the first practice and Soda he I mean, to be honest, 476 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 3: he was kind of struggling a little bit and coverage 477 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 3: with some of the tight ends and the screens and 478 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:07,439 Speaker 3: stuff that were going on. 479 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, but he also had a great play. He had 480 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 5: probably the play of the day where. 481 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 6: He dropped that as the deep safety and jumped up 482 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 6: and knocked away a deep pass to Jordanais and he 483 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 6: came down hard. I think that's why he missed day 484 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 6: two of the practices and then didn't play in the game, 485 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 6: and then we got out to practice and or you said, 486 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 6: you know, he played. Sorry, he played late into the Giants. Game, 487 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 6: like you said, and then you know, this thing came 488 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 6: out of Oh yeah, they want him to play with Woodson, 489 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,120 Speaker 6: all right. You know I kind of bought that initially 490 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 6: didn't and then we got to practice and it's like, 491 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 6: now that's still Hawkins and Woodson out there as the 492 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 6: top two safeties. And there's definitely still a role for 493 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 6: Jabril Peppers, which I won't get too into specifics with that. 494 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 6: He does still play in certain packages and stuff, but 495 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 6: at least as far as the last few practices we 496 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 6: were able to watch, he was kind of out of it. 497 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 3: Maybe he was still kind of hurt. I don't know, Fred, 498 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:51,679 Speaker 3: I have a theory. Yeah, you know, I know how 499 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:52,880 Speaker 3: you like my cockamade things. 500 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 5: Yeah, sure, I like to share him. 501 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. 502 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 3: So I think we can all agree that they're probably 503 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 3: looking to deal Dugger, right, he's too good of a 504 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 3: player to just release. You might be able to get 505 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 3: something for him. We don't want to just completely cut 506 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:09,439 Speaker 3: ties with a guy that has that resume, right, We 507 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 3: all in agreement that they're probably looking to move on 508 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 3: from Dugger. At least one or two I think at 509 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 3: least one report indicated that the salary has been a problem. 510 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:21,719 Speaker 3: They can't find a team to take the salary. So 511 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 3: what I'm wondering is, Okay, so you're interested, you like 512 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 3: the player, you want a player like that, But not 513 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 3: that said, how about Peppers? Would you take Peppers instead? 514 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 3: So they maybe they shed a little salary, not as 515 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:39,120 Speaker 3: much as Dugger. They're similar kind of you know, physical 516 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 3: safeties better near the line of scrimma. I'm not saying 517 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 3: they're exactly the same because they're not. Dougger is, I think, 518 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 3: much more athletic, and I think Peppers is more physical. 519 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 3: But I wonder if maybe that's where this sort of 520 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 3: change in his Peppers. Dugger was relegated to secondary groups 521 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 3: before Pepper us was. Pepper's thing is much more recent. 522 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 3: So I'm wondering if maybe they haven't been able to 523 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 3: move Douga. Right now they're saying, oh, I wonder if 524 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 3: we could move Peppers. 525 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 1: Is the money that big of a deal, But. 526 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 3: You tell me, I don't know. Yeah, I don't think 527 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 3: Douger's money is that big of a deal. That's what 528 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 3: I think it goes back to. That's what this is about. 529 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 3: Do you think so? 530 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 4: I think it goes it is, I think, but it's 531 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 4: also like about like the standing in the locker room, 532 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 4: Like if you're going to have Kyle Dugger on the 533 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,479 Speaker 4: roster and he's barely going to play, and he's one 534 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 4: of the highest paid players on the team and he 535 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 4: doesn't have a role on game days, like that's always 536 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 4: a tough dynamic within the locker room of you know, 537 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 4: this guy was a captain last year, they just paid him, 538 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:45,199 Speaker 4: and now he doesn't play on Sundays, and that I 539 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 4: think can maybe they're worried about that dynamic being awkward. 540 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 1: It's possible. It's also a good lesson like doesn't matter, 541 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: Like you know. 542 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 6: I mean, I say to your point too about Pepper Spread. 543 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 6: I was thinking similar along those lines, because early in 544 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 6: training CA it felt like he's the guy breaking the 545 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 6: huddles down. Yes, you know, he had an or about 546 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 6: him of leadership. Yeah, and then as I'm watching practice 547 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 6: and I'm like, how do you stay a leader like 548 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 6: that if all of a sudden you're not really getting 549 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 6: the bulk of the right. 550 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 4: That's sort of what I'm getting at too, Like those 551 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 4: guys were voices in that locker room. They're both elected 552 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:22,439 Speaker 4: captains at different points, and now they're going to be 553 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 4: very well paid backups. 554 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:26,919 Speaker 3: I just I don't know if that's just trying to 555 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 3: figure out why they're backups. Yeah, and I still haven't 556 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 3: got anybody to tell me you rational, I have told you. 557 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 3: I know, I just don't agree. 558 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 1: But I think we all said that they're going to 559 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 1: have to have you know, whether you whatever you want 560 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: to call them, but you're going to have us have 561 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 1: a strong safety, a big nickel, whatever you call it. 562 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: You're going to have to have one of those guys 563 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: who you're comfortable having him play close to the line, 564 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 1: having them comfortable being more in run support. You know, 565 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 1: maybe you don't need both, but you know, we would 566 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 1: talk about their kind of duplicative too, you know, Peppers 567 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 1: and Duggar, so you don't need both of them. But 568 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 1: I thought Peppers was the guy they decided that this 569 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 1: is the guy we're going to keep. 570 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 4: I still feel like they are that is what they've decided. 571 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 1: But now it's like we don't care, Well. 572 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:16,920 Speaker 3: He's playing a lot. That's just speculation theory. Don't put that. 573 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 3: Like again, don't get them in trouble for something they 574 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 3: have gone. 575 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 1: Right, No, not fair enough. But like again, I I 576 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: I'm a little confused. 577 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 4: Well, I think they wanted. They've played him a lot 578 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 4: at the nickel this summer and when they go through safety, 579 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 4: they played him a lot at the nickel. But I 580 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 4: don't know if he has the man coverage skills to 581 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,640 Speaker 4: play the nickel at a high volume where if he's 582 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 4: on the tight end one on one, do you trust 583 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 4: your real peppers to cover the tight end one on one? 584 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 6: I mean there was a rep No, I don't he 585 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 6: was on he was on digs. You know, like that's 586 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 6: the kind of matchups that you're going to have to 587 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 6: live with. 588 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, right, and you know some of that like your 589 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,640 Speaker 4: zone and stuff like that, but like it just they 590 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 4: want their safeties to cover ground, but they want them 591 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 4: to cover space. They want them to cover the deep 592 00:26:58,200 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 4: part of the field. 593 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 1: Okay, are we so are we getting away from having 594 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,439 Speaker 1: that safety that plays up close to the line, because 595 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 1: I don't know. You tell me the safety that can 596 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,640 Speaker 1: do both, that can is really good in coverage and 597 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:10,400 Speaker 1: in run support. 598 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 3: Kyle Hamlet. Ye, yeah, no, No, that's why he's a 599 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:19,160 Speaker 3: great player. But I've said my piece on this, I'll 600 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 3: move on. 601 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 4: Like you know, when in the old defense, you know, 602 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 4: Jabil Peppers used to talk about it all the time. 603 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 3: I got the B gap. 604 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 4: You don't got the B gap anymore, right, Like the 605 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 4: B gap is somebody else's responsibility. Now your responsibility as 606 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 4: a safety is to get the f back and that 607 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 4: that's just not their skill set, Like, that's just not 608 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 4: their strong suits. 609 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 11: So the Browns kind of tried to play him, and 610 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 11: then he was as a bust coming out of college 611 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:45,159 Speaker 11: because they had right. 612 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: So what I'm hearing from the ball noer is that, 613 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 1: you know, our defensive philosophy has changed so much that 614 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 1: this position that was a core part of the defense 615 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: in the past is not anymore. 616 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 4: And I would say that like across the correct Yeah, okay, 617 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,159 Speaker 4: But like a lot of this stuff on defense applies 618 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 4: to Anthony Jennings, and I think it applies a little 619 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,880 Speaker 4: bit to Jelani Tavai too. 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So I just think it's 630 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 4: a different scheme and it's changing. And now Woodson Hawkins 631 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 4: like those guys are more rangey, they can cover more 632 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 4: ground back there. I think they just like what they 633 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 4: see in those two players. 634 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, so as promised, we want to get 635 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 1: a deep dive into these new rivalry uniforms. So what 636 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 1: we're going to do, We're going to take a quick break, 637 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: come back. 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More teams 734 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 1: will be coming in other years, but this year eight 735 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 1: teams will be wearing Rivalries line of clothing. The Patriots 736 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 1: launched theirs today. So let's get going. So right here 737 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,879 Speaker 1: we have Deuce and to me, this is the best 738 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 1: part of the whole thing is the helmet. I've been 739 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,320 Speaker 1: calling for the white helmet with the new logo for 740 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 1: for many years now, and this is it. It's a 741 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 1: Matt white finish with the color of the same color 742 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:46,399 Speaker 1: as the jersey. Now, the visor, any player can put 743 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 1: whatever a visor they Well, we were thinking it would 744 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 1: be really cool if a player had like a red 745 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 1: metallic tinted visor to go with the red metallic on 746 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 1: the Patriots. That would be cool. 747 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 3: So take thanks, deep dive absolute. 748 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,439 Speaker 1: Once you take it off due and so we can 749 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 1: look at the back of the helmet and I'm not 750 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 1: gonna sit there with the helmet, would Yeah, So let's 751 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,920 Speaker 1: turn it around. You can see it's got the New 752 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 1: England on the back again with the red metallic tint 753 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:18,399 Speaker 1: It's a Matt white finish. So I think, I think 754 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 1: this is really cool. Yeah, the helmet's really cool. This 755 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,280 Speaker 1: is what Deuce is wearing. Is more of the jersey 756 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 1: you'd buy in the pro shop. Yeah yeah, but it's yeah, sure, 757 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 1: he's so excited, Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. 758 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:42,799 Speaker 12: Where get girl? 759 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 3: All right? 760 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 12: Some of the symbolism on the jersey. 761 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,759 Speaker 11: Yeah, we have the six stars on the uniform, representing 762 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:51,280 Speaker 11: the six New England states. 763 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:54,240 Speaker 12: A New n E. 764 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,760 Speaker 1: Shoulder, your camera, look at this camera. 765 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:01,400 Speaker 3: You gotta okay, it's your first time in television. 766 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 11: You were a Hollywood any shoulder go Inspired by the 767 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,880 Speaker 11: nautical lettering and compass points, underscoring the unique nature of 768 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 11: the Patriots as the only team to represent an entire region. 769 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 11: Jersey numbers pull in their vertical striping and mesh like 770 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:23,280 Speaker 11: design from the iconic nineteen nineties Patriots uniform, evoking memories 771 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:28,359 Speaker 11: of Bledsoe era battles. Oh It's for you so Deuce 772 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,879 Speaker 11: unfortunately doesn't have the pants, but the shoulder and pant 773 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 11: stripes carry a subtle netting pattern homage homage to the 774 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:41,879 Speaker 11: working harbors that define the New England coast. Matt White 775 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:46,760 Speaker 11: helmet reminds us of snow, metallic silver face mask reminds 776 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 11: us of icy cold that defines the region's winters, and 777 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,719 Speaker 11: then small pops of red quiet connection back to the 778 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 11: team's traditional color palette, and inside every collar a reminder 779 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,360 Speaker 11: that through every storm, we are all Patriots. 780 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 1: So this is the actual game jersey. This is Marcus 781 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 1: Jones jersey. And you can see it's got the the 782 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 1: the red stars. I don't know if we can zoom 783 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 1: in on that. Yeah, there you go the red stars, 784 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 1: which camera okay right here, and you can see the 785 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:22,880 Speaker 1: netting on the stripes a little better here, and a 786 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:26,840 Speaker 1: little bit of the contour of the numbers with the holes, 787 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,719 Speaker 1: so it's it's cool. Then you get the we are 788 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 1: all Patriots up in the neck line. 789 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:35,760 Speaker 3: Here's the back and tonight. 790 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:36,799 Speaker 1: Yeah. 791 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,840 Speaker 4: I really do like the numbers in the font. Yeah, 792 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,799 Speaker 4: and I thought the texture you can't really tell that 793 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:44,239 Speaker 4: on like a graphic. It's nice. 794 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:45,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're not gonna be able to tell that 795 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,960 Speaker 1: on TV when they're far away, but like you know, 796 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 1: wearing this around now you can see the detail of 797 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,560 Speaker 1: it all. I think it's really cool. I like it, 798 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,320 Speaker 1: and you know, we'll get into some of your reactions. 799 00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,919 Speaker 1: It's you know, obviously everyone has a very personal take 800 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,840 Speaker 1: on all this stuff. But the other thing beyond the 801 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,319 Speaker 1: jersey that we see in the helmet are some of 802 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 1: the sideline gear. So Evan, I particularly like what you're wearing. Yeah, 803 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 1: that put the hands in the This is zippered up. 804 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:21,239 Speaker 1: It's not it's not a varsity jacket, but yeah, a 805 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 1: little bit, but but it's it's it's very cool fall spring. 806 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,080 Speaker 3: I really like Paul's hoodie too. 807 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:27,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. 808 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 11: I like this. 809 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 1: Stand up, yeah, stand up, you get the hoodie crowd 810 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:37,360 Speaker 1: and then turn around. 811 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,360 Speaker 17: Yeah, this on the hood is we are all patriots 812 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 17: on the on the on the hood yeah, turn around, wow, 813 00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,799 Speaker 17: so you can see that we are all patriots of them. 814 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 1: And then, Alex, what would you consider what would you 815 00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,880 Speaker 1: call the fabric of that? This is a windbreaker, a windbreaker, 816 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 1: but it's a it's a performance type of fabric. 817 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 12: It's definitely a dry fit fabric windbreaker. 818 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,960 Speaker 11: Really nice. I don't know how waterproof it will be. 819 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,719 Speaker 11: It seems like it's waterproof. This is probably my favorite thing. 820 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:14,799 Speaker 3: Quarters that's that's a similar hoodie is the one I 821 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:15,040 Speaker 3: have on? 822 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:15,359 Speaker 1: Yeah? 823 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,520 Speaker 3: Do you have the oh no. 824 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so Paul so on Paul's hoodie. 825 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:23,279 Speaker 18: Uh. 826 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,920 Speaker 1: There's also a metal zipper. 827 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:29,839 Speaker 6: Which is cool up, nothing gonna fall out of that. 828 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 1: There's another piece right here. This is a long sleeve, 829 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:41,280 Speaker 1: a long sleeve you know, performance tea with the back 830 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,799 Speaker 1: patriots Yeah stuff. 831 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:49,680 Speaker 3: We got here. 832 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:51,920 Speaker 6: This is just like my dad would come home from Reebok. 833 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 3: You know that you probably got to keep. 834 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, it is the best. 835 00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:01,399 Speaker 1: This this is I'm disappointed that Alex didn't try this one. 836 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,440 Speaker 12: That was my backup windbreaker. 837 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 1: This is sort of a half half cut to cross, 838 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 1: so for those of you with a crew. 839 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:13,880 Speaker 3: Neck, I couldn't wear that. 840 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:16,160 Speaker 12: It's just can you see it or not? 841 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 1: And again this this is the style of jersey that 842 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:25,320 Speaker 1: Deuce is wearing. This is the this is gonzo. 843 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:28,279 Speaker 12: One instead of a this. 844 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:29,279 Speaker 3: Is a large. That's the one. 845 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:31,480 Speaker 1: That's a large. 846 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, he wants an. 847 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,399 Speaker 1: Already called already order. 848 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:41,120 Speaker 3: He wants one gonzo for his son Jackson does, so 849 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 3: does everybody else. 850 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,080 Speaker 1: So that's all the stuff. I think it's pretty cool. 851 00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:48,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I really like Well, First of all, the 852 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,879 Speaker 4: helmet is just I think I can't even look at 853 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 4: it for too long. It just makes it dang. The 854 00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,880 Speaker 4: helmet is great. The matt is really cool. We've all 855 00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,440 Speaker 4: been clamoring for the white helmets, so to get a 856 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:00,120 Speaker 4: white helmet. 857 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:01,799 Speaker 3: The new logo on. 858 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:03,680 Speaker 4: It is great, and I really do like the any 859 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 4: I think, you know, the elvis is obviously the elvis, 860 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:08,799 Speaker 4: but have a little bit of a different logo to 861 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:10,280 Speaker 4: throw out there every once in a while. 862 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:11,120 Speaker 3: I like it. 863 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 4: I like it on the shoulders that do on the 864 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,839 Speaker 4: jersey as well. So those are my two favorite parts 865 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:16,440 Speaker 4: of the jersey. 866 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:17,080 Speaker 1: Okay. 867 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,760 Speaker 11: I love the pops of red, like especially on the helmet, 868 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,960 Speaker 11: the metallic red. It's it's subtle, but it's it just 869 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,160 Speaker 11: goes really well with the color palette. 870 00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 12: I don't know. I love this blue too. I think 871 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:28,120 Speaker 12: it's just really flattering on everyone. 872 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, so like I heard a lot of 873 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,360 Speaker 1: people say, oh, you should have had the Royal blue, 874 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,919 Speaker 1: or you should have had red or this. They've got 875 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 1: red for the throwback, and you know they're down the 876 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,200 Speaker 1: road though. I'm sure there'll be other alternates, so there's 877 00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,719 Speaker 1: still time to have a red jersey. But I like 878 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,200 Speaker 1: having something really different than what you've got or have 879 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,600 Speaker 1: had in the past. And I'm I'm not one of 880 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:56,000 Speaker 1: those preeople that like like the real flashy colors. To me, 881 00:41:56,080 --> 00:42:01,680 Speaker 1: that's amateurish x fellas. I like like traditional, like just 882 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:07,320 Speaker 1: really clean cut in uh modest type of colors or 883 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:08,920 Speaker 1: pro uniform. 884 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,680 Speaker 11: I think this color is just perfect New England, just 885 00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,640 Speaker 11: like I look at Paul's hoodie, and I think you 886 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:17,880 Speaker 11: could walk into coffees on the Cape and find like 887 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:19,919 Speaker 11: a nice washed blue color like that. 888 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,200 Speaker 12: This says like cape Cod across, except. 889 00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:22,239 Speaker 1: It's just. 890 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,680 Speaker 4: Subt It does have a little cape Cod feel to it, 891 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:29,759 Speaker 4: like the wash washed. 892 00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 1: So then they get the nail on the. 893 00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 4: Head because I feel like, you know, there's like places 894 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,799 Speaker 4: you walk into that have these like the whites and 895 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,960 Speaker 4: the blues, and the Cape is very popular and so yeah, 896 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:43,239 Speaker 4: I like the color. It's hard to kind of tell 897 00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:45,960 Speaker 4: just with pictures on social media what the color looks. 898 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,160 Speaker 3: I didn't really know what they looked like until I 899 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:49,160 Speaker 3: came in and saw the box. 900 00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:50,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was tough. 901 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,560 Speaker 3: It didn't Yeah, I don't know if it was something. 902 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,719 Speaker 12: About the way the dark fishing boat. 903 00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, it just didn't really doesn't eyes. 904 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,560 Speaker 12: It's a great color. It's a flattering color on everyone. 905 00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:03,440 Speaker 11: Like Evan and I were looking at the pictures of 906 00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:05,440 Speaker 11: Gonzo in it, and then. 907 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:11,480 Speaker 4: Paul like that hoodie is awesome. That's a that's a 908 00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:12,960 Speaker 4: need to purchase hoodie right there. 909 00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,560 Speaker 3: The tanne will be gone very very soon, that's the problem. 910 00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:20,799 Speaker 1: So so note to Patriots Administration. All employees would like 911 00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:21,520 Speaker 1: the hoodie. 912 00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,359 Speaker 12: I want this, thank you for I want this in the. 913 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,440 Speaker 3: Crop if I could get a large one. 914 00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:27,920 Speaker 12: Do we have to return these two? Can I just 915 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:29,040 Speaker 12: give him my credit card and. 916 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:30,440 Speaker 1: Just well, I don't know. 917 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:31,800 Speaker 3: I'm just going back to my office. 918 00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:36,279 Speaker 1: And unfortunately these are just the only ones they have. 919 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:40,759 Speaker 1: But I'm told yes, September tenth and September tenth is 920 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,560 Speaker 1: when this stuff will be available in the Patriots Pro 921 00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:45,719 Speaker 1: shop and I'm assuming fanatics. 922 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,120 Speaker 3: Andy listening September tenth. 923 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, he's always listening. 924 00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:52,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. Cool. So I haven't got any other texts that 925 00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:56,279 Speaker 1: I said anything wrong, So so that's good. So so 926 00:43:56,360 --> 00:44:00,719 Speaker 1: that's it. That's that's the new Rivalries release by the 927 00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:04,320 Speaker 1: NFL in for the Patriots. So very cool. 928 00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,919 Speaker 3: What my son chimed in from from South Carolina. Yeah, 929 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:09,879 Speaker 3: from the they mad tough, They. 930 00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:11,239 Speaker 5: Mad tough, They mad tough. 931 00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,000 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, he likes them. 932 00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,279 Speaker 3: I thought you mentioned that they're using him. They're wearing 933 00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,319 Speaker 3: them against the Jets, right, yeah. Are they also wearing 934 00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:20,120 Speaker 3: them against Buffalo? 935 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:20,560 Speaker 1: No? 936 00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:25,000 Speaker 3: No, their against Buffalo? Where's there? 937 00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:25,479 Speaker 14: Yeah? 938 00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,560 Speaker 1: Just one game uh this year for the Patriots for 939 00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:28,879 Speaker 1: this year. 940 00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,400 Speaker 11: Cool if we were them against Buffalo too, because I 941 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,360 Speaker 11: think US and Buffalo have two of the cooler. 942 00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:38,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think all white against this would look Yeah. 943 00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:40,560 Speaker 3: Not a lot to say that. 944 00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:42,919 Speaker 6: No, you can say, well, I mean there was eight 945 00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,719 Speaker 6: total uniforms. I think it was four of them were 946 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:46,880 Speaker 6: basically all black. 947 00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,480 Speaker 5: The Jets and Miamis. 948 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:52,080 Speaker 6: And the Seahawks was kind of white, the Bills was 949 00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:55,040 Speaker 6: kind of white. And the Cardinals and the Patriots were 950 00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:56,799 Speaker 6: the two different ones. They felt like the Cardinals did 951 00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,280 Speaker 6: kind of a sand color and the Patriots did something 952 00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,960 Speaker 6: totally out of their out of you know, there's no 953 00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,879 Speaker 6: new uniform completely. I felt like some of those other 954 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:06,759 Speaker 6: ones though, with the forty nine ers and they all 955 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:08,640 Speaker 6: seem like you just took your uniform made of black, 956 00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:10,560 Speaker 6: which I've seen that before. 957 00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,839 Speaker 3: The uh, Cardinals Desert ones are cool. 958 00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, I kind of disrespect that it was a little different. 959 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:17,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was cool. Agreed. 960 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:21,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, JJ Wattson we were in the top two for him. Uh, 961 00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,399 Speaker 1: des Portnoy loved him. 962 00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,680 Speaker 3: Oh there's a shock. Yeah he's on board. 963 00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:26,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's on board. 964 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, but this type of didn't expect to win him over. 965 00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:33,279 Speaker 4: The sideline gear, like the stuff we're wearing is more 966 00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,440 Speaker 4: important in my mind. Than the jersey for fans, because like, 967 00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,200 Speaker 4: I feel like this is the type of stuff that 968 00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:41,560 Speaker 4: you want a fan less. So like the actual game, 969 00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:45,200 Speaker 4: Megan O'Brien would not know. Yeah, so like that, you 970 00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:46,239 Speaker 4: know these are these are. 971 00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,960 Speaker 1: It's not that she didn't like the jerseys to wear jerseys, 972 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,399 Speaker 1: but she doesn't like world jerseys with someone else's name. 973 00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:57,480 Speaker 12: I'm with her. Yeah, I think it's really weird. I'm 974 00:45:58,080 --> 00:45:59,239 Speaker 12: your own sentence. I don't want to. 975 00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:05,360 Speaker 11: If I were a man, I would not want another 976 00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:06,520 Speaker 11: man's name on my back. 977 00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:12,760 Speaker 3: I just think that when you get a little older, 978 00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:16,160 Speaker 3: it's a little different. Maybe when you're already a twenties 979 00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:17,920 Speaker 3: even we'll give it a little bit of a stretch. 980 00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:19,600 Speaker 4: So you know, I think it depends, but I think 981 00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:23,120 Speaker 4: it depends on who you're wearing what jersey, because like 982 00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:26,800 Speaker 4: if you're wearing, you know, like a Tom Brady jersey, 983 00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,200 Speaker 4: or you know, if you're going to a Celtics game 984 00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,720 Speaker 4: and you're wearing a Bird jersey or a Puerce jersey, 985 00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,200 Speaker 4: like those are like legends of the franchise. If you're 986 00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,520 Speaker 4: one of those people that goes in and buys like 987 00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,840 Speaker 4: a new jersey every year and it's like somebody on 988 00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:41,680 Speaker 4: the current team. I kind of hear what you guys 989 00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:42,080 Speaker 4: are saying. 990 00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:45,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I even look at it. I've given this some 991 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:49,920 Speaker 3: thought because because of Megan, because we had huge shows 992 00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:53,480 Speaker 3: about this. Yeah, I would even say I would be 993 00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:57,960 Speaker 3: a little bit more lenient with football, Like, no matter 994 00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,719 Speaker 3: how old you are, you show up to stadium with 995 00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,400 Speaker 3: a jersey, you get Drake may shirt on or whatever, 996 00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:04,880 Speaker 3: like can I can? 997 00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:05,480 Speaker 1: I can? 998 00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:09,399 Speaker 3: I can? Look the basketball jersey never ceases to amaze. 999 00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,000 Speaker 4: You have a tank top, right, we have a shirt 1000 00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:12,680 Speaker 4: underneath it. 1001 00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:14,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, and it looks ridiculous. 1002 00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:15,560 Speaker 12: That might look worse. 1003 00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:20,279 Speaker 3: On grown men, like Thinkneil. I've never seen anyone pull 1004 00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:24,040 Speaker 3: it off and look even remotely normal. That's different. 1005 00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:24,720 Speaker 1: It's clowned. 1006 00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:27,400 Speaker 12: It's a college thing. College. 1007 00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,040 Speaker 3: They look so ridiculous. 1008 00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:29,719 Speaker 5: I'm going to run. 1009 00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:31,160 Speaker 6: The locker room is opening a little early, so I'll 1010 00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:31,560 Speaker 6: be back. 1011 00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:35,960 Speaker 3: Just like would actually put the helmet under your arm, 1012 00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,560 Speaker 3: double dog take off, that would be That would be 1013 00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:39,399 Speaker 3: mad tough bro. 1014 00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:41,960 Speaker 1: All right, So Evan and Duce are going to go 1015 00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:43,000 Speaker 1: to the locker room. 1016 00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:47,040 Speaker 12: Just walks up here, Andre, all right. 1017 00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,680 Speaker 1: So that's it. BB in New Hampshire right said, thank 1018 00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:51,840 Speaker 1: you so much for this, love the color, love the style, 1019 00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:55,600 Speaker 1: pleasantly surprised more Mike fashion shows please. 1020 00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,600 Speaker 3: This Mike really embraced it. It was kind of embarrassing. 1021 00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:00,880 Speaker 3: You should have heard him before that show, how excited 1022 00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:01,239 Speaker 3: he was. 1023 00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,160 Speaker 11: We were looking at a licensing requirements for some music 1024 00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:07,120 Speaker 11: to give them like a Runway song, but didn't want 1025 00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:07,640 Speaker 11: to get in trouble. 1026 00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:12,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, not everyone loves it. Henry in Sunny Yorkshire, UK, 1027 00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,080 Speaker 1: The Rivalry jerseys are awful. Maybe I'm missing the point, 1028 00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:18,080 Speaker 1: but can someone explain the color scheme? Is it historical? 1029 00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:21,080 Speaker 1: Is it a local New England thing? The jersey itself 1030 00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:24,240 Speaker 1: is fine, but it looks like it belongs in Carolina, 1031 00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,520 Speaker 1: not Boston. Well, you know it's I think they went 1032 00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:31,120 Speaker 1: for like bad weather. You know they're looking for England. 1033 00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:35,840 Speaker 1: It's called I think northeaster is what they're calling it, 1034 00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,759 Speaker 1: and that's bad weather. So when you think I think 1035 00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:41,600 Speaker 1: of bad weather in New England, I think of great 1036 00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:46,000 Speaker 1: clouds and choppy, stormy, choppy seas which are darker, and 1037 00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:49,960 Speaker 1: so I think this resembles. Yeah, it's not supposed to 1038 00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:53,759 Speaker 1: be historical, it's it's it's to symbolize sort of the 1039 00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:57,600 Speaker 1: rugged weather of New England. So, like I said, everyone 1040 00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:00,200 Speaker 1: has their you know, their own everybody. 1041 00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:01,160 Speaker 12: Very New England. 1042 00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,400 Speaker 11: Though, like I said, I think if you walked into Cuffe's, 1043 00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:05,200 Speaker 11: they probably have a huge just like this, and it's 1044 00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,480 Speaker 11: probably their most sold color palette. 1045 00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, Justin says, I'm not over the moon about the 1046 00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,319 Speaker 1: new uniforms, but I don't dislike them personally. I just 1047 00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,400 Speaker 1: need to see them in action to see how I 1048 00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:17,759 Speaker 1: like to look during the game. If they win in them, 1049 00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:18,680 Speaker 1: you'll love them, right. 1050 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,600 Speaker 3: I will say this though, And I understand where some 1051 00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:24,239 Speaker 3: people are coming from with the color palette because I 1052 00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:27,440 Speaker 3: don't think it shows up. I think you're gonna need 1053 00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,000 Speaker 3: to see it. Yeah, because I didn't get it. I 1054 00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:32,080 Speaker 3: actually I thought there was something wrong with my computer. 1055 00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,080 Speaker 3: I went and I watched it on Alix Starker. 1056 00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:38,799 Speaker 11: Yes, and it was the cinematic you know, detailing of 1057 00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,319 Speaker 11: the video shoot. But you're right, like in the video, 1058 00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:43,520 Speaker 11: I didn't even realize that navy was kind of one 1059 00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:44,600 Speaker 11: of the accent colors. 1060 00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:47,680 Speaker 3: It looked very black and white to me on the 1061 00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:49,799 Speaker 3: pictures and videos that I saw, but in. 1062 00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:50,959 Speaker 12: Person, knowing it's Navy. 1063 00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,520 Speaker 3: I agree with Alex's description, and I don't know the place. 1064 00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:55,520 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Alex, I can't give them. I can't give 1065 00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:57,920 Speaker 3: them a plug like you have several times today. But 1066 00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:00,960 Speaker 3: I agree with Alex. This is a color I've seen 1067 00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:05,120 Speaker 3: a lot in and around New England. Yeah, this color 1068 00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:08,600 Speaker 3: is I think, very common around New England. So I 1069 00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:09,799 Speaker 3: understand what they were going for. 1070 00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:12,040 Speaker 1: And even like you know, like we talked about when 1071 00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:14,440 Speaker 1: we showed it, the detail of the numbers, you know, 1072 00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:19,680 Speaker 1: with the little perforation. You don't get that sometimes from 1073 00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:21,759 Speaker 1: a distance, but when you're looking at it close, or 1074 00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:24,480 Speaker 1: if you're just wearing it on the street, you'll see that. 1075 00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:27,759 Speaker 1: And I think it's really cool. It really makes the 1076 00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:29,640 Speaker 1: numbers pop for me. 1077 00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:34,480 Speaker 12: Me too. And the fish Netting homage detail, Yeah, I 1078 00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:35,520 Speaker 12: like it a lot more than. 1079 00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:40,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. I wonder if I'll have I don't know. I 1080 00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,920 Speaker 1: don't know if they'll have polos, So I don't know 1081 00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,720 Speaker 1: if this is the full line. Maybe somebody can text 1082 00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:48,680 Speaker 1: to tell us if there's going to be more sideline 1083 00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:52,480 Speaker 1: stuff than we're showing. But the play a lot of 1084 00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:54,640 Speaker 1: this stuff that you're seeing. The players will be wearing 1085 00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:59,760 Speaker 1: it on the sideline so good. You know, T shirt 1086 00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,040 Speaker 1: I could use. I don't like long sleeved T shirts, 1087 00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:06,760 Speaker 1: so I could use a short sleeve T shirt. Yeah, 1088 00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:09,520 Speaker 1: I don't know. I just roll them up anyway. I 1089 00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:15,200 Speaker 1: don't wear them long. And then wondering if what what's 1090 00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:15,759 Speaker 1: the other thing? 1091 00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:15,960 Speaker 8: Oh? 1092 00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:18,240 Speaker 1: Caps, like if they'll have any caps? 1093 00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:24,480 Speaker 3: I'm sure I'm sure they will. Yeah, yep, and regular 1094 00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:25,359 Speaker 3: ball caps. 1095 00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:28,760 Speaker 1: Ball caps, ball caps, like Steve would say. 1096 00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:30,680 Speaker 3: The ball head ball coach. 1097 00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:36,160 Speaker 1: Yep. All right, let's see Mike and the o C. 1098 00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,560 Speaker 1: I love to get the panels grades of the Patriots, right, 1099 00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:43,839 Speaker 1: I give it an A Mike and the OC gives 1100 00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:48,799 Speaker 1: it at Mike and the OC gives it an a minus. 1101 00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:52,719 Speaker 1: It's a very unique blue. I agree, it's unique. And 1102 00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,319 Speaker 1: I love the white helmets and newted logo. The new 1103 00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:58,120 Speaker 1: England logo on the shoulder is fine. I could take 1104 00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:00,120 Speaker 1: it or leave it, which we could see them in 1105 00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:03,840 Speaker 1: more than one game this year. Uh so yes. 1106 00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:07,080 Speaker 3: Also with the helmet, as you you all are, no, 1107 00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:09,480 Speaker 3: why not, it kind of looks a little like the Titans. 1108 00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:12,360 Speaker 1: Helmet because of the color blue. 1109 00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:14,960 Speaker 3: Well, the white with the blue logo on it. Yeah, 1110 00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,080 Speaker 3: it kind of reminds me of the Titans helmet. Sure, 1111 00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:19,600 Speaker 3: I don't hate it or anything. 1112 00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:22,440 Speaker 11: Yeah, imagine it with just a sick visor though, like 1113 00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:24,279 Speaker 11: Fred was saying, metallic red. 1114 00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:29,439 Speaker 1: Give me that visor, not a huge that would be sick. 1115 00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:32,600 Speaker 1: T u f F that would be fire. 1116 00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:36,200 Speaker 3: And that reminds me of Terry Glenn. And it's just 1117 00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:36,919 Speaker 3: like bad Paul. 1118 00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:41,439 Speaker 1: That would go hard. That's that's what they say, that 1119 00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:46,960 Speaker 1: that goes hard. Linda wants to know. Does Alex's fit 1120 00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:48,120 Speaker 1: have anything on the back? 1121 00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:49,879 Speaker 12: I don't know. 1122 00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:58,000 Speaker 1: No, just playing. No, no, no, nope, no, uh, she said, 1123 00:52:58,000 --> 00:52:59,919 Speaker 1: it's it's been a desire of mind to have front 1124 00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,160 Speaker 1: and back Patriots identifiers. 1125 00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:04,640 Speaker 3: Well, so most of the stuff does have stuff on 1126 00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:09,160 Speaker 3: the back. I've seen, not just the hook the hoodie 1127 00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:10,880 Speaker 3: has I think that we are Patriots on it, and 1128 00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:13,600 Speaker 3: we are all Patriots. But but some of the shirts 1129 00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:16,400 Speaker 3: have like a Patriots logo on the Yeah. 1130 00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:19,600 Speaker 1: So Paul's hood has the metal zipper. This this hoodie 1131 00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:22,600 Speaker 1: doesn't have the zipper. So this is if you don't 1132 00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:25,320 Speaker 1: want the zipper, and it says Patriots on the front 1133 00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:26,759 Speaker 1: and there's nothing on the hood. 1134 00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:28,120 Speaker 3: I like this one better than that. 1135 00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:29,240 Speaker 1: So this is more plain. 1136 00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:33,520 Speaker 3: But even that long sleeve tea you Harry that was 1137 00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:34,800 Speaker 3: gray has something on the back. 1138 00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:35,560 Speaker 1: Of this hoodie. 1139 00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:39,120 Speaker 17: Yeah, that one that this has the full Patriots in 1140 00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:42,520 Speaker 17: the back looking for Yeah, so this one does. 1141 00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:45,120 Speaker 1: Have Patriots in the back. So if you're looking for 1142 00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:49,600 Speaker 1: a hoodie, this has that we are patriots, all patriots. 1143 00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:51,960 Speaker 1: We are all Patriots on the hood and it's got 1144 00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:55,600 Speaker 1: the Patriots on the back and then the any on 1145 00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:58,640 Speaker 1: the sleeve and the and the metal zipper. 1146 00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:01,279 Speaker 3: So runs the gamut a little bit. 1147 00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:02,840 Speaker 1: Everything. This is the full gamut. 1148 00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:06,680 Speaker 11: I had it as like a b in seeing it 1149 00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:08,440 Speaker 11: on the screen and in the graphics, and then in 1150 00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:09,000 Speaker 11: person A. 1151 00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:14,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, I can better in person than I thought. 1152 00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:17,759 Speaker 3: So okay, I think people will be happy when they 1153 00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:18,800 Speaker 3: see them. 1154 00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:24,840 Speaker 1: Yep. On the field, Adam says, I really like the 1155 00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:27,920 Speaker 1: jerseys except for the spots and the numbers. I like 1156 00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:31,880 Speaker 1: the spots and the numbers. Jerseys have actual style to 1157 00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:35,200 Speaker 1: them compared to our very boring normal jerseys. I think 1158 00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:38,600 Speaker 1: we probably have the second best rivalry uniforms behind the 1159 00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:42,240 Speaker 1: forty nine ers. The number font on theirs is amazing, 1160 00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:45,120 Speaker 1: so I didn't see that. I have to look closer at. 1161 00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:50,040 Speaker 12: That you said they did black ones too, or that. 1162 00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,040 Speaker 1: I kind of like Miami's color combo. 1163 00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:53,640 Speaker 3: The only one I saw I. 1164 00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:55,080 Speaker 12: Think was I like it. 1165 00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:58,640 Speaker 11: However, I know pink isn't one of their colors, and 1166 00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:00,719 Speaker 11: that's more of like a Miami thing to do the 1167 00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:04,520 Speaker 11: vice colors. But I just it'd be so cool to 1168 00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:06,560 Speaker 11: see like hot pink on a football uniform. 1169 00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:09,839 Speaker 12: Selfishly, yeah, I would would have loved to see you. 1170 00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,560 Speaker 1: You would have hoped they used that. I would have Yeah, 1171 00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:15,919 Speaker 1: that would have been cool. Shane and Springfield he thinks 1172 00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:19,160 Speaker 1: it stinks. Seems like they can't make up their mind 1173 00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:21,799 Speaker 1: between Vrabels, Titans or maze U and c. If they 1174 00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:25,360 Speaker 1: didn't want to lean into the bledstell blues that fans want, 1175 00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:28,160 Speaker 1: they should have gone all full Americana and done stars 1176 00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:30,840 Speaker 1: and stripes as a Patriots would have done numbers for 1177 00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:35,839 Speaker 1: the fourth parties. I don't know what that means, okay anyway, Yeah, 1178 00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:38,920 Speaker 1: it's like everybody has their own take. But like Paul said, 1179 00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:40,680 Speaker 1: you gotta see it. 1180 00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:42,920 Speaker 12: This is very different than Carolina blue. 1181 00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:47,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, Carolina blue is more baby blue. 1182 00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:50,840 Speaker 11: Yeah, this is a beautiful deep like grayish. I don't like, 1183 00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:54,840 Speaker 11: I want to get a paint swatch and paint addresser. 1184 00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:56,880 Speaker 12: I have this color. To be honest, I'm inspired. 1185 00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually have a dress of this color. 1186 00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:02,240 Speaker 12: Really yeah, send it to a picture for me for instill. 1187 00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:07,080 Speaker 1: So good stuff. Let's get to some of the phone calls. 1188 00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:09,880 Speaker 1: Eight five to five PATS five hundred is the hot line. 1189 00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:14,520 Speaker 1: Let's see Jake and Wisconsin's been holding on. What's up, Jake? 1190 00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:16,319 Speaker 11: Hey, how you. 1191 00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:17,440 Speaker 19: Guys doing good? 1192 00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:20,800 Speaker 7: Of course, the one time I'm not watching YouTube and 1193 00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:22,040 Speaker 7: I'm sitting on the hold of you guys do a 1194 00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:28,040 Speaker 7: fashion show. But ah, I was listening to the show 1195 00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:30,440 Speaker 7: yesterday and you guys are talking about the wide receiver 1196 00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:33,000 Speaker 7: room and how we're a little more comfortable with it, 1197 00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:36,360 Speaker 7: and I was thinking about if we've had one of 1198 00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:38,279 Speaker 7: the worst wide receiver rooms, if not the worst for 1199 00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:38,760 Speaker 7: a while. 1200 00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:41,200 Speaker 20: I thought, well, we're feeling a lot better now, and 1201 00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:44,359 Speaker 20: the bills are pretty good parentally, but they don't have 1202 00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:47,319 Speaker 20: stunning bills wide receivers. So I looked at the depth 1203 00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:49,880 Speaker 20: chart and you guys are telling me if I'm biased 1204 00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:54,359 Speaker 20: or fair in these assumptions, so prefer Patriots receivers over 1205 00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:54,840 Speaker 20: the bills. 1206 00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:55,600 Speaker 7: Bias are fair. 1207 00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:00,680 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Quill's wide receiver room for us the Patriots 1208 00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:03,160 Speaker 1: wide receiver room. Which one do you think is a 1209 00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:08,040 Speaker 1: little stronger? It depends on Diggs. If Diggs comes out and. 1210 00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:10,560 Speaker 3: He's yeah, I don't think the Bills have a very 1211 00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:14,400 Speaker 3: strong wide receiver room, right, So I think they're similar. Yeah, 1212 00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:16,400 Speaker 3: I think neither one of them is very good. 1213 00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:18,840 Speaker 1: But but if mac Hollins. 1214 00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:21,080 Speaker 3: Kharil Shakira is probably the best receiver the Bills have, 1215 00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:23,720 Speaker 3: they don't have a great receiver room. Yeah, yeah, but 1216 00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:26,600 Speaker 3: the Patriots don't either. But well, I think they're similar. 1217 00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:29,440 Speaker 1: Great is subjective, but it could be good. 1218 00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:30,280 Speaker 3: I don't think so. 1219 00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:36,280 Speaker 1: You don't so if if Diggs plays like Diggs, that's 1220 00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:40,640 Speaker 1: the last three years, yeah, thousand yards, thousand yard receiver. 1221 00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:43,720 Speaker 3: The best they could be is okay? Good? Why because 1222 00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:44,800 Speaker 3: that's just good? 1223 00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:48,160 Speaker 1: And then Holland's is an upgrade over something they didn't 1224 00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:50,840 Speaker 1: have last year, right. 1225 00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:55,280 Speaker 3: I don't know. I was here last year, Fred, like they, 1226 00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:58,080 Speaker 3: I understand what you're getting. 1227 00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:00,600 Speaker 1: I think there's potential here for the wide receiver room. Now. 1228 00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:04,280 Speaker 1: The thing about the Bills is we've seen it last year. 1229 00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:07,760 Speaker 1: We can Yeah, we can judge the Bills better then 1230 00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:10,520 Speaker 1: we can judge the Patriots because we haven't seen it yet. 1231 00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:14,680 Speaker 1: We haven't seen it with McDaniels, so we don't really 1232 00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:17,800 Speaker 1: know how good this wide receiver room is. But I 1233 00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:20,439 Speaker 1: think on paper it's better than it was last year. 1234 00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:21,160 Speaker 3: I agree with that. 1235 00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:22,840 Speaker 12: And how good will Drake make them look? 1236 00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:23,400 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1237 00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:26,080 Speaker 3: And how good will Drake be we you know, I 1238 00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:29,120 Speaker 3: think I agree with Fred Diggs makes them better than last. 1239 00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:34,000 Speaker 21: Year Patriots running backs versus Bills running backs, and same 1240 00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:34,640 Speaker 21: with tight end. 1241 00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:37,560 Speaker 3: I would say the Bills are better and running back 1242 00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:41,360 Speaker 3: and tight end. I really like James Cook a lot. 1243 00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:43,720 Speaker 3: I think James Cook is really good, and I think 1244 00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:46,160 Speaker 3: Dalton kin kate is is really good. 1245 00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:50,080 Speaker 21: I just looking after James Cook gets Ray Davis and. 1246 00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:53,480 Speaker 3: He's a really solid backup who had a good year 1247 00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:56,280 Speaker 3: for them last year. Yeah, I think they're good. 1248 00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:59,960 Speaker 21: So if we compare those three skill positions and stay 1249 00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:01,920 Speaker 21: they're fairly similar. 1250 00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:02,680 Speaker 3: I would agree with that. 1251 00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:05,720 Speaker 21: Next step. What's the next step to get us to 1252 00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:07,280 Speaker 21: be able to be division contenders? 1253 00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:08,240 Speaker 3: Drake May? 1254 00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:11,560 Speaker 21: I was going to say, aside from Drake May becoming 1255 00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:12,760 Speaker 21: Josh Allen, Okay. 1256 00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:17,920 Speaker 3: The defense getting better, No, Drake may like because but 1257 00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:20,480 Speaker 3: what I'm saying is, I don't think the Bill's rece 1258 00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:24,320 Speaker 3: corps is very good. Josh Allen may have had his 1259 00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:26,720 Speaker 3: best year of his career last year with a with 1260 00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:29,040 Speaker 3: a not very good receiving corpse, So why is that? 1261 00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:30,280 Speaker 1: Because he's great? 1262 00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:31,160 Speaker 12: Correct? 1263 00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:35,200 Speaker 3: Correct, So that's what you need to do. So I 1264 00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:37,400 Speaker 3: agree with that. I'm one hundred percent on board with 1265 00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:39,360 Speaker 3: the caller. I know most people probably expect that I'm 1266 00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:41,640 Speaker 3: going to push back. I agree with him. I think 1267 00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:44,200 Speaker 3: the tight end situation, I would give the Bills the edge. 1268 00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:47,360 Speaker 3: The running back situation. I think the running back room 1269 00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:49,760 Speaker 3: for the Patriots is probably the strongest position they have, 1270 00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:53,280 Speaker 3: those three guys. So you want to give the edge 1271 00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:55,120 Speaker 3: of the Patriots and running backs, Okay, you want to 1272 00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:57,560 Speaker 3: give the edge of the wide receivers for the Patriots. Okay, 1273 00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:00,440 Speaker 3: tight ends, I would say it's edge to the Bills. 1274 01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:03,560 Speaker 3: But it doesn't matter, right, None of that matters. 1275 01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:04,880 Speaker 1: It's the quarterback. 1276 01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:09,200 Speaker 3: Because the gap between quarterbacks is so enormous you can't 1277 01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:14,160 Speaker 3: even quantify it. If Drake May gets better, that's when 1278 01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:15,440 Speaker 3: you start to have a good offense. 1279 01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:16,600 Speaker 1: Yep. 1280 01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:20,160 Speaker 3: Now I'm I'm leaving out, which is also a huge difference. 1281 01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:23,560 Speaker 3: The Bill's offensive line is pretty good. Yeah, Patriots isn't. 1282 01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:27,800 Speaker 1: Yep, that's a big one. That's a big one. Christian 1283 01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:29,720 Speaker 1: in La. What's up? Christian? 1284 01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:32,360 Speaker 9: Hey you guys here? 1285 01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:34,040 Speaker 22: You guys have the Thursday team? 1286 01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:35,440 Speaker 18: Yep, quickly. 1287 01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:39,360 Speaker 22: I think it's Laden Robinson that when I heard you 1288 01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:42,720 Speaker 22: guys day was turning on to be an intensive wing 1289 01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:45,360 Speaker 22: guard for us. He got hurt and they just kind 1290 01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:48,640 Speaker 22: of instead of reserve as a little being confused as that. 1291 01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:50,520 Speaker 22: But my real question. 1292 01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:53,200 Speaker 3: Is Layden Robinson was never a threat to be on 1293 01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:55,840 Speaker 3: the roster this year. He was with the third team. 1294 01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:58,280 Speaker 3: He was with the third team pretty much every day, 1295 01:00:59,200 --> 01:00:59,560 Speaker 3: all right? 1296 01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:01,600 Speaker 23: That some of those that you guys were talking about, 1297 01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:04,000 Speaker 23: that's that's potential good swing guard for us. 1298 01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:06,960 Speaker 22: I'm sorry, I don't remember his name, but. 1299 01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:10,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. 1300 01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:14,680 Speaker 22: Welcome to David now at the number two cornerback positions. 1301 01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:17,920 Speaker 23: Are you guys expecting Donslow to take the leap up 1302 01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:19,560 Speaker 23: to shut down corner? 1303 01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:21,640 Speaker 22: That's one and then. 1304 01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:25,400 Speaker 23: Two, we've been talking about players coming to New England 1305 01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:26,800 Speaker 23: next year. 1306 01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:28,439 Speaker 18: I have to we do a little better this year. 1307 01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:31,440 Speaker 22: But in today's landscape. 1308 01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:36,520 Speaker 23: Where superstar receivers potentially are trying to simultaneously build their 1309 01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:38,160 Speaker 23: off steel brands. 1310 01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:41,080 Speaker 22: Do you think Rabel is the coming const that would 1311 01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:44,040 Speaker 22: allow the open stuff that have to happen booths on. 1312 01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:46,760 Speaker 23: You know, feel for one of those star players, you 1313 01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:49,680 Speaker 23: want to come here and still develop their brand be. 1314 01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:52,240 Speaker 3: One of two questions, don't I don't think a lot 1315 01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:54,880 Speaker 3: of that. I don't think. I don't think that stuff 1316 01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:57,720 Speaker 3: is overly important. I think if Drake may becomes what 1317 01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:01,760 Speaker 3: we were hoping for him to become, and wide receivers 1318 01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:04,280 Speaker 3: looking they say I can I can catch you one 1319 01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:07,240 Speaker 3: hundred balls for fifteen hundred yards there, they'll come and 1320 01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:09,560 Speaker 3: they'll take the contract. Now, the contract is the first 1321 01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:15,280 Speaker 3: and foremost, but anybody who is let's say, let's say 1322 01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:17,640 Speaker 3: you take that face value. The Chris god One thing 1323 01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:21,400 Speaker 3: Pages did offer him more money from Tampa. Well, he's 1324 01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:23,400 Speaker 3: not going to take it because he's not sure exactly 1325 01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:24,920 Speaker 3: what the passing game is going to look like in 1326 01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:28,600 Speaker 3: New England. He's not turning it down in New England 1327 01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:30,560 Speaker 3: because of brand or something like that. 1328 01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:33,040 Speaker 1: No, he was saying that these players want to have 1329 01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:35,680 Speaker 1: their own brand and is able to type of coach 1330 01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:38,240 Speaker 1: to allow a player do his brand have no idea. 1331 01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:41,120 Speaker 3: But I don't think that that's that important to these guys, 1332 01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:43,520 Speaker 3: that they're making their decisions based on where I can 1333 01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:43,840 Speaker 3: be me. 1334 01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:44,160 Speaker 18: No. 1335 01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:46,240 Speaker 1: But what he's saying is would Rabel bring in a 1336 01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:48,440 Speaker 1: guy who wants to do that? Of course he. 1337 01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:53,960 Speaker 11: Wont in Europe walking in fashion shows this offseason and 1338 01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:55,040 Speaker 11: it didn't seem Yeah. 1339 01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:56,920 Speaker 1: I mean this is the modern NFL. 1340 01:02:58,160 --> 01:02:59,360 Speaker 3: It will seem to be a problem. 1341 01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:01,360 Speaker 1: I mean, these guys just starting their own brands in 1342 01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:04,240 Speaker 1: college now with the nil so I just feel you 1343 01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:05,480 Speaker 1: got to get with that program. 1344 01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:07,920 Speaker 3: If you give him the money and they think that 1345 01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:11,200 Speaker 3: they can succeed, they can thrive. I you know the 1346 01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:13,440 Speaker 3: wide receivers where a diva comes in is they want 1347 01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:15,800 Speaker 3: to be the man. They want to be number the 1348 01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:18,240 Speaker 3: number one guy. They want to get the targets. That's 1349 01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:22,240 Speaker 3: what the worry about Digs right now is will he 1350 01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:26,360 Speaker 3: be okay if he's just part of the you know, 1351 01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:28,280 Speaker 3: a cog in the machine. Does he have to be 1352 01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:31,720 Speaker 3: the guy? And there was some line of thought that 1353 01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:33,760 Speaker 3: last year in Houston he was okay because he looked 1354 01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:37,440 Speaker 3: over and he saw Nico Collins who was clearly the 1355 01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:40,480 Speaker 3: number one and said, Okay, he's worthy. The pages don't 1356 01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:44,040 Speaker 3: have that. So that's that to me is those are 1357 01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:46,440 Speaker 3: the Christian Those are the overriding factors to me. Can 1358 01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:49,040 Speaker 3: I succeed? Can I thrive and be be the the 1359 01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:53,040 Speaker 3: alpha like Alex said? And do I get the money? 1360 01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:55,160 Speaker 3: Those are the two things that are important. The rest 1361 01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:56,600 Speaker 3: of that stuff comes with those things. 1362 01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:59,680 Speaker 1: I wouldn't worry about Vrabel not wanting that type of player. 1363 01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:01,840 Speaker 3: I really don't know. 1364 01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:06,800 Speaker 24: If you're a coach, as long as it's not a distraction, 1365 01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:09,040 Speaker 24: why wouldn't you Guys you want your guys to make 1366 01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:12,720 Speaker 24: as much money off the field as possible, then maybe 1367 01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:15,720 Speaker 24: they help give you leeway when you're constructing. 1368 01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:17,400 Speaker 12: They're making so much off the field. 1369 01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:20,439 Speaker 1: As long as that it's affecting their player practice, yeah 1370 01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:23,280 Speaker 1: or the other. You know, like it's fine, but that's 1371 01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:26,200 Speaker 1: the way it is these days. Yeah, you know, it's. 1372 01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:28,240 Speaker 12: N I L is only going to make it worse, 1373 01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:29,880 Speaker 12: not worse, but it's going to. 1374 01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:35,800 Speaker 11: Like these kids are coming into the NFL hundreds of 1375 01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:39,440 Speaker 11: thousands of followers, they're already businesses in and of themselves, 1376 01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:40,880 Speaker 11: you know, and it's just going to continue. 1377 01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:43,960 Speaker 1: And the whole thing about Gonzo stepping up to be 1378 01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:44,960 Speaker 1: a shutdown corner. 1379 01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:46,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I thought he had already. 1380 01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:47,880 Speaker 1: I thought I thought that's what he was. 1381 01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:48,080 Speaker 6: Now. 1382 01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:50,240 Speaker 3: He was a second team All Pro last year, right, 1383 01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:52,800 Speaker 3: you know, is he the best corner in football? 1384 01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:52,920 Speaker 1: No? 1385 01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:55,360 Speaker 3: But you know he's in the conversation. 1386 01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:57,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, and yeah, he's got potential to be. 1387 01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:00,600 Speaker 3: I say he's I mean, at worst he top five 1388 01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:01,000 Speaker 3: or six. 1389 01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:01,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1390 01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:02,480 Speaker 25: Uh. 1391 01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:05,920 Speaker 1: Another person in l A. Nelson? What's up? Nelson? 1392 01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:07,080 Speaker 25: Hey? 1393 01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:07,920 Speaker 23: I was doing today? 1394 01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:09,840 Speaker 1: Man, good man. 1395 01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:12,400 Speaker 9: That uniform is dripping all right? 1396 01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:13,920 Speaker 1: What do you like about it? 1397 01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:15,240 Speaker 9: Out of everything? 1398 01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:17,400 Speaker 22: The whole color everybody's complaining about. 1399 01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:19,720 Speaker 20: I don't know how I'll be complaining you acting like girls, 1400 01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:21,120 Speaker 20: I don't know what you like. 1401 01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:25,960 Speaker 3: That's disrespectful, Yeah, because you'll be saying they be saying, oh, 1402 01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:28,080 Speaker 3: we want you stuff, we want you when they bring 1403 01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:30,000 Speaker 3: your boff don't thing about it stuff. 1404 01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:33,400 Speaker 1: I know, I know. It's it's so hard no matter 1405 01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:34,280 Speaker 1: what you do. 1406 01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:34,720 Speaker 3: You think the same. 1407 01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:35,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, damn if you do. 1408 01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:39,560 Speaker 1: If you don't, you know, fashion is very very subjective. 1409 01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:44,160 Speaker 22: And uniform with that color this year tell yeah. 1410 01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:47,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I just want to win in them. Yeah, 1411 01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:49,480 Speaker 1: if you win the game in them, now we love them. 1412 01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:50,800 Speaker 25: So I want to do too. 1413 01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:51,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, like like. 1414 01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:57,640 Speaker 11: The Red Sox yellow yellow, and they did not lose 1415 01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:00,320 Speaker 11: games in those when they first rolled those out, you know, 1416 01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:01,520 Speaker 11: and everyone was obsessed. 1417 01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:02,520 Speaker 12: It's bright yellow. 1418 01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:05,520 Speaker 11: Only a very small amount of the population can wear 1419 01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:07,240 Speaker 11: bright yellow and have it be flattering. You know. 1420 01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:09,840 Speaker 12: People love them because they were winning in them, right. 1421 01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:13,680 Speaker 3: I know a lot of people didn't like the Dynasty uniform. 1422 01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:16,959 Speaker 3: They won a few games and those That's true, people 1423 01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:17,920 Speaker 3: don't like them. 1424 01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:23,200 Speaker 1: It's very subjective fashion. So you're never going to come 1425 01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:26,280 Speaker 1: out with something that everyone loves unless they're like Levi's 1426 01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:27,720 Speaker 1: never It's true. 1427 01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:38,880 Speaker 11: That word from Nelson to your your rolodex dripping. 1428 01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:39,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, Paul dripped before you were even born. I mean 1429 01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:40,120 Speaker 1: fair enough. 1430 01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:45,200 Speaker 3: He's not lying. I used to I used to dress. Yeah, 1431 01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:48,480 Speaker 3: that's that's a different Italian horn. Now that's a different 1432 01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:49,240 Speaker 3: kind of drip to. 1433 01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:52,120 Speaker 1: You, still, the horne of fertility. 1434 01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:55,680 Speaker 12: I don't even wear a chain anymore of Italian? Are you? 1435 01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:55,760 Speaker 25: No? 1436 01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:58,200 Speaker 3: Evidently a bad one? No one calls me cutlets. 1437 01:06:58,600 --> 01:06:59,720 Speaker 12: That's true. 1438 01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:03,680 Speaker 3: You gotta make fun of people because they're Italian. 1439 01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:06,760 Speaker 1: Dollar oil voice get a jump. 1440 01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:10,600 Speaker 3: Like if we just signed like an Irish guy we 1441 01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:16,440 Speaker 3: call him like, you know, Jimmy Guinness. Like, I just 1442 01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:17,880 Speaker 3: don't understand why it's okay. 1443 01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:20,320 Speaker 12: I thought we were being positive about the Italians. 1444 01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:24,600 Speaker 3: I don't think so. I don't think so what are 1445 01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:24,960 Speaker 3: you doing? 1446 01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:28,240 Speaker 1: Kyle says, he wants me to turn the helmets? 1447 01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:31,720 Speaker 3: I was like, what are we doing? 1448 01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:33,520 Speaker 1: There? 1449 01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:36,280 Speaker 3: You go, Kyle, Freddy took care of you front and center. 1450 01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:39,560 Speaker 1: For you. It's hard to see even now, you know, 1451 01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:41,800 Speaker 1: because of the lighting and everything in the glare. But 1452 01:07:42,560 --> 01:07:45,360 Speaker 1: it's it's sweet. It's sweet. You know. 1453 01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:49,120 Speaker 3: What was somewhat disappointing about the roster cutdown this year? 1454 01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:52,120 Speaker 3: Was there anything that was really even a remote surprise, 1455 01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:58,920 Speaker 3: not something like huh, I didn't see that one coming. 1456 01:07:59,320 --> 01:07:59,920 Speaker 3: It was nothing. 1457 01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:03,920 Speaker 1: No, I think if this if Cole Strange had been 1458 01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:06,840 Speaker 1: cut last year, that would have been a surprise, you know, 1459 01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:10,480 Speaker 1: before the injury obviously, but now we've been sort of 1460 01:08:10,560 --> 01:08:12,960 Speaker 1: conditioned to think like this is coming. 1461 01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:15,640 Speaker 3: He was coming off. He had been injured going into 1462 01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:16,200 Speaker 3: last year. 1463 01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:17,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, so you. 1464 01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:20,000 Speaker 3: Didn't get hurt last year. He got hurt two years ago. 1465 01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:21,120 Speaker 1: It was two years ago. 1466 01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:23,439 Speaker 3: I thought it was before we played like a handful 1467 01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:25,200 Speaker 3: of games because of the injury from. 1468 01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:27,000 Speaker 1: The previous I thought he got a hurt in training camp. 1469 01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:33,719 Speaker 3: No, he tour his ruptured patella tendon in twenty three 1470 01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:38,400 Speaker 3: and only played like maybe four games and twenty four 1471 01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:39,360 Speaker 3: as a result of that. 1472 01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:41,720 Speaker 1: Okay, I thought it was Remember in training camp, we 1473 01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:44,320 Speaker 1: were going blow by plow with what happened with Cold 1474 01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:46,960 Speaker 1: Strange in the training shed and all that. Remember I 1475 01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:49,200 Speaker 1: was going over that. You don't remember me doing. 1476 01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:51,479 Speaker 3: That, not with Cold Strange because it wasn't that training camp. 1477 01:08:53,320 --> 01:08:55,559 Speaker 3: He was on like pup the whole year. 1478 01:08:55,840 --> 01:08:56,599 Speaker 1: What am I thinking? 1479 01:08:56,680 --> 01:08:57,120 Speaker 3: I don't know. 1480 01:08:57,320 --> 01:08:59,920 Speaker 1: Remember, don't you remember we're sitting up where we sit 1481 01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:01,800 Speaker 1: in the ramp, and I'm like, okay, now they're looking 1482 01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:02,519 Speaker 1: if that makes sense. 1483 01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:05,080 Speaker 3: I don't sit up in the ramp with you. That's 1484 01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:08,240 Speaker 3: for your your boys, Okay, I sit down in the 1485 01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:09,280 Speaker 3: hill when you guys make fun of. 1486 01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:11,200 Speaker 1: Him because I was going blow by blow with Cold 1487 01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:12,320 Speaker 1: Strange and his injury. 1488 01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:15,639 Speaker 3: He was trying a training camp last year he got 1489 01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:16,719 Speaker 3: hurt in twenty three. 1490 01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:24,040 Speaker 1: Maybe it was mini camp. Yeah, I need Deuce with 1491 01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:28,040 Speaker 1: Deuce come back. I need Deuce because I I did 1492 01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:33,360 Speaker 1: do that. Chester's in Portland. What's up Chester? 1493 01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:37,000 Speaker 3: Pull strange a serious torn pateel attendant and his left 1494 01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:38,880 Speaker 3: knee in late twenty twenty three. 1495 01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:41,599 Speaker 1: What's up Chester? 1496 01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:42,960 Speaker 18: What's up? 1497 01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:43,360 Speaker 1: Guys? 1498 01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:45,920 Speaker 26: Hey, great Joes. There's the three of you guys make 1499 01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:48,000 Speaker 26: a great three. Oh you know, it's a great combination 1500 01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:51,639 Speaker 26: of young, old and older and really good stuff. 1501 01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:53,960 Speaker 3: I see what you did there. 1502 01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:57,280 Speaker 26: I think, by the way, on reaching your final week 1503 01:09:57,280 --> 01:09:59,960 Speaker 26: before three Joes, We're looking forward to more of you, guys. 1504 01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:03,080 Speaker 26: I had to time in today on this new Jersey 1505 01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:06,400 Speaker 26: apparel combo. To me, they look shy up friends. When 1506 01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:08,439 Speaker 26: I when I saw him the first time on social media, 1507 01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:10,519 Speaker 26: I kind of got lions cold sides, and you know, 1508 01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:13,320 Speaker 26: they kind of got that feeling. But I love the 1509 01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:15,479 Speaker 26: white helmets and I'm glad you guys showed them in 1510 01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:18,439 Speaker 26: the studio because they look better. I don't know if 1511 01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:20,439 Speaker 26: it's just like TV or what, but they look a 1512 01:10:20,439 --> 01:10:24,000 Speaker 26: little more gray but really sharp and and I'm really 1513 01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:27,120 Speaker 26: starting to see some new spirals out there and to 1514 01:10:27,160 --> 01:10:30,599 Speaker 26: get to that pro job, I just want to say too, 1515 01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:32,800 Speaker 26: if anybody doesn't like them, like, we've got what three 1516 01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:35,120 Speaker 26: other spyles to choose from. So you know, get after 1517 01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:37,840 Speaker 26: what you want to me. Next week we aim our 1518 01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:40,360 Speaker 26: sides on a new attitude, and you know, time for 1519 01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:43,400 Speaker 26: us fans to get out there do our job. Get 1520 01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:46,240 Speaker 26: to the pro shop on September ten and buy some 1521 01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:48,280 Speaker 26: apparel over and out. 1522 01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:53,439 Speaker 1: Let's go, Yeah, let's go. 1523 01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:56,080 Speaker 3: He's toning it down, Alex. He used to really, he 1524 01:10:56,200 --> 01:10:58,519 Speaker 3: used to really really rile up the fan base. 1525 01:10:58,360 --> 01:11:02,800 Speaker 12: With the would have a whole on a ready vintage tape. Chester. 1526 01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:04,959 Speaker 12: Send your photo in for the next round. 1527 01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:06,720 Speaker 1: Of guests that list. I think he did already, didn't he? 1528 01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:08,840 Speaker 12: Maybe yeah, do it again? 1529 01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:09,400 Speaker 1: Okay? 1530 01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:10,479 Speaker 27: Uh? 1531 01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:17,080 Speaker 1: Dante is in Newark, Delaware, Newark, Newark, Newark, Delaware, Newark. 1532 01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:20,559 Speaker 1: What's up, Dante, Newark, New Jersey. Turn it up? 1533 01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:23,040 Speaker 19: Newark is New Jersey, Newark is Delaware. 1534 01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:24,600 Speaker 12: Wow, good to know. 1535 01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:28,120 Speaker 25: Yeah, So just my quest culture and. 1536 01:11:28,120 --> 01:11:29,320 Speaker 7: Take sure it's running back room. 1537 01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:32,920 Speaker 19: Obviously we're gonna be running back by committee with not 1538 01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:35,919 Speaker 19: three really good running backs. But do you guys eventually 1539 01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:39,439 Speaker 19: see Traveon Henderson taking that leap forward to becoming like 1540 01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:43,360 Speaker 19: an all downs back for us, because obviously he's got 1541 01:11:43,400 --> 01:11:45,040 Speaker 19: a lot of bag play protection. 1542 01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:49,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw who's a Dan Gratziano that his name. 1543 01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:51,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, he predicted a person. 1544 01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:54,719 Speaker 1: He did predict today that eventually he'd be the lead back. 1545 01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:56,960 Speaker 3: I do not believe that that will be the case. 1546 01:11:57,280 --> 01:11:59,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, Now do you think it will happen this season? 1547 01:11:59,800 --> 01:12:01,439 Speaker 3: I don't think it'll ever be the case. I don't 1548 01:12:01,439 --> 01:12:04,320 Speaker 3: think he's built for it. I think he's too small. 1549 01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:10,160 Speaker 3: But it's it has happened. There's no question he has 1550 01:12:10,240 --> 01:12:14,000 Speaker 3: the biggest, the big play potential. There's nobody's. The other 1551 01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:17,000 Speaker 3: two aren't close to him. He has an electricity about him, 1552 01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:20,040 Speaker 3: no doubt about it. I think he would lose some 1553 01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:23,840 Speaker 3: of that the higher his workload would would get. I 1554 01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:27,320 Speaker 3: would worry about that. Yep. I think if you ask 1555 01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:29,280 Speaker 3: him to carry the ball two hundred and fifty times 1556 01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:33,120 Speaker 3: between the tackles, he would wear down and probably get injured. 1557 01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:35,720 Speaker 3: But if you give him, you know, maybe ten or 1558 01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:39,760 Speaker 3: fifteen touches per game, get him out in space on screens, 1559 01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:43,280 Speaker 3: maybe some some you know, crack toss sweeps and whatnot. 1560 01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:46,200 Speaker 3: I think he'd be effective in that role and give 1561 01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:49,200 Speaker 3: you the chance for some big plays. I think he's 1562 01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:53,160 Speaker 3: the best, the best possible big play guy. They have 1563 01:12:53,920 --> 01:12:56,160 Speaker 3: best potential big player goes. 1564 01:12:56,080 --> 01:12:57,719 Speaker 22: With like mcdaigel's offense. 1565 01:12:58,520 --> 01:13:01,879 Speaker 7: I mean, James White, he played really great. 1566 01:13:01,720 --> 01:13:07,200 Speaker 19: For US managers receiving back right, But obviously. 1567 01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:08,160 Speaker 7: Treon has more than that. 1568 01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:10,920 Speaker 19: He has much more talent than White did have. 1569 01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:15,559 Speaker 3: Any I disagree with that strongly. I strongly disagree. I 1570 01:13:15,560 --> 01:13:18,439 Speaker 3: think it's very disrespectful to James White. This is the 1571 01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:21,679 Speaker 3: James White had a better college career than Trevon Henderson did. 1572 01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:25,240 Speaker 19: Yeah, but I mean, like as far as like lion 1573 01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:28,680 Speaker 19: might like you know, championship games and you know. 1574 01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:30,280 Speaker 28: In the playoffs. 1575 01:13:30,280 --> 01:13:32,800 Speaker 19: He's pored a lot of touchdowns for Ohio State in 1576 01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:34,040 Speaker 19: the playoffs. 1577 01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:37,599 Speaker 1: Okay, James White scored a lot of touchdowns for the Patriots. 1578 01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:40,519 Speaker 3: So I'm just gonna say, I want to say one 1579 01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:44,760 Speaker 3: thing Henderson I said. I don't think he'll ever be that. 1580 01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:47,559 Speaker 3: That's just my view right now. Thanks to he's very 1581 01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:50,679 Speaker 3: similar in size to Jamiir Gibbs, and Gibbs has sort 1582 01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:54,960 Speaker 3: of continued to increase that role as he's gone on, 1583 01:13:56,200 --> 01:13:58,720 Speaker 3: so he could. I'm not going to dismiss the possibility 1584 01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:01,240 Speaker 3: that he because I think Gibbs his kind of supplanted 1585 01:14:01,280 --> 01:14:04,040 Speaker 3: Montgomery as the number one guy for Detroit. That's what 1586 01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:07,280 Speaker 3: you're looking for from Henderson is Jamiir Gibbs, right, Okay, 1587 01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:09,720 Speaker 3: a guy who can ca Oh absolutely, I can take 1588 01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:11,559 Speaker 3: it and run. I mean to me, it gives her 1589 01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:14,280 Speaker 3: in for like fourteen hundred yards l and I just 1590 01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:16,880 Speaker 3: looked up gives his size and he's not there. I mean, 1591 01:14:16,880 --> 01:14:19,719 Speaker 3: he's like five nine, five ten. He's kind of similar 1592 01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:23,280 Speaker 3: in size two hundred pounds yep to Henderson. So if 1593 01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:25,920 Speaker 3: he did it, Henderson could do it too. But I 1594 01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:32,120 Speaker 3: just James James White in college, and that's all we 1595 01:14:32,160 --> 01:14:35,240 Speaker 3: can compare it to, right, because that's all Henderson's done. 1596 01:14:36,160 --> 01:14:42,360 Speaker 3: But James White in college was nasty at Wisconsin. Oh, 1597 01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:44,840 Speaker 3: I looked up the wrong thing. Continue, I'll get it 1598 01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:45,200 Speaker 3: all right. 1599 01:14:45,240 --> 01:14:47,840 Speaker 1: Well, anyway, we'll talk about that after the break when we. 1600 01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:49,120 Speaker 3: Come back making another break. 1601 01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:52,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, we got him. More calls, more emails. I see 1602 01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:54,040 Speaker 1: you hanging on the phone. The phones are lit up, 1603 01:14:54,360 --> 01:14:57,639 Speaker 1: emails are coming in. We'll talk more Patriots, we'll talk 1604 01:14:57,680 --> 01:15:01,160 Speaker 1: more rivalries right after this. 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I feel great about where we're at, 1641 01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:04,720 Speaker 29: but will continue to look for ways to improve and 1642 01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:08,479 Speaker 29: what we feel like from a personnel standpoint, but also 1643 01:17:09,240 --> 01:17:12,200 Speaker 29: looking for ways to improve on the field. Today will 1644 01:17:12,240 --> 01:17:14,920 Speaker 29: be an important day for us, just getting started here 1645 01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:18,719 Speaker 29: with with the Raiders and and the show team process 1646 01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:20,479 Speaker 29: and and all that and trying to get the looks 1647 01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:22,240 Speaker 29: that we need to try to, you know, begin the 1648 01:17:22,720 --> 01:17:26,400 Speaker 29: the game planning and practicing some of that stuff. 1649 01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:30,519 Speaker 25: Learning spots would be tough to saying that things really 1650 01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:32,320 Speaker 25: target to try the good. 1651 01:17:32,479 --> 01:17:34,320 Speaker 29: No I mean, I don't think that you really set 1652 01:17:34,360 --> 01:17:38,719 Speaker 29: out You just try to focus on, you know, adding 1653 01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:42,280 Speaker 29: good players to you to your football team and whatever role. 1654 01:17:42,120 --> 01:17:44,640 Speaker 25: That you envision for them, and and kind of go 1655 01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:45,400 Speaker 25: from there. And so. 1656 01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:50,200 Speaker 29: I feel like we've improved through training camp and then 1657 01:17:50,240 --> 01:17:53,679 Speaker 29: need to continue to improve through this process of preparing 1658 01:17:53,720 --> 01:17:57,839 Speaker 29: to win, and then also continuing to to target players, 1659 01:17:57,880 --> 01:18:01,200 Speaker 29: whether that's you know today and you know the next 1660 01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:02,919 Speaker 29: few days as players become available. 1661 01:18:04,840 --> 01:18:07,400 Speaker 28: Might understand that things are moving fast here and tell. 1662 01:18:07,320 --> 01:18:11,479 Speaker 29: Me the BEATO awarded on Weaving with disapoint Well again, 1663 01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:14,160 Speaker 29: I think that we'll confirm all those things later on. 1664 01:18:14,240 --> 01:18:16,120 Speaker 29: And know, we put a claim in for a couple 1665 01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:17,880 Speaker 29: of guys, and I would say that just. 1666 01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:22,200 Speaker 25: Strengthening a roster, certainly at. 1667 01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:28,280 Speaker 29: A premium position, and you know, continuing to add pieces, 1668 01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:31,840 Speaker 29: whether that's offensively or defensively, or guys that we feel 1669 01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:33,320 Speaker 29: like can help us on special teams. 1670 01:18:34,360 --> 01:18:35,120 Speaker 25: How much would. 1671 01:18:34,920 --> 01:18:39,040 Speaker 8: Somebody think Ryan's insight be value with a player like 1672 01:18:39,080 --> 01:18:40,439 Speaker 8: that and helping the left? 1673 01:18:43,720 --> 01:18:47,960 Speaker 25: What and insight? I'm just sorry, so Tommy Debido and 1674 01:18:48,040 --> 01:18:49,519 Speaker 25: Ryan cal. 1675 01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:51,280 Speaker 29: Oh, yeah, yeah, I didn't know what you said after 1676 01:18:51,320 --> 01:18:56,439 Speaker 29: the well, I mean We've had coaches and personnel people 1677 01:18:57,040 --> 01:19:01,280 Speaker 29: throughout the league at different spots, you know, whether that 1678 01:19:01,400 --> 01:19:06,200 Speaker 29: be me or Stretch or coaches or Ryan or anybody, 1679 01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:09,720 Speaker 29: you know. I think that's just one part of the evaluation, 1680 01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:14,120 Speaker 29: having some working knowledge of what the player has done 1681 01:19:14,520 --> 01:19:17,040 Speaker 29: in the building, how are they day to day And 1682 01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:20,479 Speaker 29: we can all watch the performance and see what it 1683 01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:23,599 Speaker 29: looks like on the on the film, but the practice, 1684 01:19:23,680 --> 01:19:26,639 Speaker 29: the habits, the how they are in the building and 1685 01:19:26,880 --> 01:19:30,920 Speaker 29: how they prepare and and did they improve. I think 1686 01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:36,960 Speaker 29: those are some some insights, whether it's this particular instance 1687 01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:39,200 Speaker 29: or if it's just you know, somebody else that we're 1688 01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:41,840 Speaker 29: trying to target. So I think that that can always help. 1689 01:19:43,680 --> 01:19:53,960 Speaker 29: It wasn't the main factor in this decision. Yeah, And 1690 01:19:54,040 --> 01:19:59,479 Speaker 29: again Josh has been settled down in the games, and 1691 01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:01,680 Speaker 29: I think the there's been some mistakes, whether that was 1692 01:20:02,280 --> 01:20:04,519 Speaker 29: joint practice or practice, and we're all going to have 1693 01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:08,920 Speaker 29: mistakes and then being able to you know, settle down 1694 01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:13,680 Speaker 29: in the games and perform and operate. And again, I 1695 01:20:13,680 --> 01:20:20,280 Speaker 29: don't each move that will make may not being indication 1696 01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:23,320 Speaker 29: of what the players are at that position. I think 1697 01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:28,320 Speaker 29: it's just looking into strengthen the overall roster construction. 1698 01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:31,720 Speaker 25: How valuable and important as the practice squad. 1699 01:20:31,479 --> 01:20:33,479 Speaker 1: Will become as it's years. 1700 01:20:34,280 --> 01:20:36,040 Speaker 29: We were laughing the other day when it was fifty 1701 01:20:36,040 --> 01:20:38,360 Speaker 29: three players and five guys on the practice squad and 1702 01:20:38,760 --> 01:20:42,879 Speaker 29: we actually practiced and functioned, and now we have probably 1703 01:20:42,920 --> 01:20:47,599 Speaker 29: will have seventy and we'll be wondering how we can 1704 01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:51,519 Speaker 29: practice that many players. So what it's given you is 1705 01:20:51,520 --> 01:20:54,040 Speaker 29: given you a good blend of of having some veterans 1706 01:20:54,040 --> 01:20:56,240 Speaker 29: that may be able to go in right away and 1707 01:20:56,320 --> 01:20:59,839 Speaker 29: be elevated, and also gives you an opportunity to develop 1708 01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:03,679 Speaker 29: some younger players. What you'll see when that that list 1709 01:21:03,720 --> 01:21:06,280 Speaker 29: comes out, so you'll be able to kind of recognize 1710 01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:09,280 Speaker 29: both of those who you may need some more time 1711 01:21:09,360 --> 01:21:12,200 Speaker 29: and want to invest some more time into them, or 1712 01:21:12,240 --> 01:21:15,360 Speaker 29: a veteran that's played in this league and would be 1713 01:21:15,400 --> 01:21:18,439 Speaker 29: ready to go if we needed to elevate them. 1714 01:21:18,240 --> 01:21:19,960 Speaker 6: Along those lines to make I wanted to ask them 1715 01:21:20,120 --> 01:21:21,800 Speaker 6: bred Swinson just given. 1716 01:21:21,520 --> 01:21:24,160 Speaker 25: The drift status the fifth under with tip the camp, did. 1717 01:21:24,120 --> 01:21:27,080 Speaker 14: He have to see someone that will see on that practice. 1718 01:21:26,720 --> 01:21:30,760 Speaker 29: Squads again that'll be out at four and you know, 1719 01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:34,160 Speaker 29: there's always tough decisions that we have to make. So 1720 01:21:35,160 --> 01:21:37,160 Speaker 29: we have to do what's in the best interest to 1721 01:21:37,200 --> 01:21:40,120 Speaker 29: the football team, and that's why you practice, and that 1722 01:21:40,240 --> 01:21:43,320 Speaker 29: there's a competition and there's games to evaluate and see 1723 01:21:43,320 --> 01:21:47,960 Speaker 29: how they respond. So you know that that practice squad 1724 01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:51,040 Speaker 29: list will be out at four and it will continue 1725 01:21:51,080 --> 01:21:54,200 Speaker 29: to you know, I think change over the course of 1726 01:21:54,479 --> 01:21:57,479 Speaker 29: not only the next few days, but but probably the season. 1727 01:21:57,840 --> 01:22:00,720 Speaker 29: You guys end at the point that the thicker our 1728 01:22:01,479 --> 01:22:04,280 Speaker 29: curious to get your perspective on how that kicking competition 1729 01:22:04,400 --> 01:22:05,080 Speaker 29: played out over. 1730 01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:06,920 Speaker 25: The summer meeting. So I thought it was competitive. 1731 01:22:06,920 --> 01:22:12,040 Speaker 29: I thought Parker really improved from the spring to the summer. 1732 01:22:12,640 --> 01:22:15,840 Speaker 29: And I think just the entire body of work, we 1733 01:22:15,840 --> 01:22:18,840 Speaker 29: we felt like Andy was going to be our kicker. 1734 01:22:19,040 --> 01:22:25,120 Speaker 29: And again I appreciate Parker's competitiveness and how he worked, and. 1735 01:22:24,640 --> 01:22:25,840 Speaker 25: You know, I wish him well, and. 1736 01:22:27,400 --> 01:22:31,200 Speaker 29: You know, those are always difficult decisions, and again we 1737 01:22:31,160 --> 01:22:35,960 Speaker 29: we're gonna We're gonna do everything we can to support Andy. 1738 01:22:35,960 --> 01:22:37,519 Speaker 29: And then he knows he got to make him That's 1739 01:22:37,600 --> 01:22:39,439 Speaker 29: that's a job of the kicker, you know, that's you 1740 01:22:39,520 --> 01:22:42,120 Speaker 29: got to make him so and I expect that he will. 1741 01:22:44,080 --> 01:22:50,360 Speaker 25: Josh Jobs sett him down. Mobility pets for the game free, 1742 01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:51,519 Speaker 25: it's very open. 1743 01:22:51,560 --> 01:22:54,560 Speaker 3: The other day, da let's get stumped. 1744 01:22:54,280 --> 01:22:56,519 Speaker 1: Up and getting used at the time of land up, 1745 01:22:57,280 --> 01:22:59,200 Speaker 1: and I asked a bunch of strategies. 1746 01:22:58,640 --> 01:23:00,400 Speaker 22: That he can have from of the game. 1747 01:23:00,439 --> 01:23:03,120 Speaker 29: For since the passboats up, do you help them to 1748 01:23:03,240 --> 01:23:05,320 Speaker 29: the strategy to send something come to whether it's a 1749 01:23:05,400 --> 01:23:05,800 Speaker 29: flight back. 1750 01:23:06,880 --> 01:23:09,439 Speaker 25: Well, I mean, I think that you have to again, 1751 01:23:09,479 --> 01:23:10,200 Speaker 25: you have to prepare. 1752 01:23:10,240 --> 01:23:14,040 Speaker 29: Each player prepares differently for that game and how you 1753 01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:18,519 Speaker 29: what your emotion level is going into that game, and 1754 01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:21,280 Speaker 29: how it starts, and you know, I think that there's 1755 01:23:21,320 --> 01:23:23,920 Speaker 29: always something to be said for you know, getting into 1756 01:23:23,920 --> 01:23:26,920 Speaker 29: a rhythm, you know, I mean, we can't throw a 1757 01:23:26,920 --> 01:23:29,640 Speaker 29: bunch of two yard routes to start the game. But 1758 01:23:29,960 --> 01:23:31,840 Speaker 29: I think that it's just getting into a rhythm and 1759 01:23:31,880 --> 01:23:35,840 Speaker 29: a flow. And you know the warm up, you know 1760 01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:39,160 Speaker 29: how how guys warm up. Some guys go and warm up, 1761 01:23:39,280 --> 01:23:41,640 Speaker 29: warm up a few hours before the game, come back in, 1762 01:23:41,800 --> 01:23:45,200 Speaker 29: settle down. Some guys, uh, you know, kind of just 1763 01:23:45,280 --> 01:23:47,880 Speaker 29: roll on out there. But it's all about finding your 1764 01:23:47,880 --> 01:23:52,040 Speaker 29: own individual routine that will allow each and every one 1765 01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:54,320 Speaker 29: of them to perform at a high level. 1766 01:23:54,360 --> 01:23:55,200 Speaker 25: When we start the game. 1767 01:23:55,240 --> 01:24:00,240 Speaker 29: We can't wait to the second quarter to to feel comfortable. 1768 01:24:03,240 --> 01:24:05,400 Speaker 1: And now great moments in. 1769 01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:10,600 Speaker 3: History, have any resolution as to how it's going to 1770 01:24:10,640 --> 01:24:12,880 Speaker 3: be for everybody, you know, us, you know, continue on 1771 01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:15,840 Speaker 3: inside baseball. What do you mean from where are we 1772 01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:17,160 Speaker 3: going to be? Where we're gonna be? What are we 1773 01:24:17,160 --> 01:24:20,160 Speaker 3: gonna do? You just say that yesterday you said you 1774 01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:22,040 Speaker 3: didn't know exactly how that was gonna basically. 1775 01:24:21,800 --> 01:24:24,839 Speaker 1: Said, those who were in the red press box blue blue, 1776 01:24:24,920 --> 01:24:27,160 Speaker 1: I mean we're blue. Oh, he's gonna those who are 1777 01:24:27,160 --> 01:24:29,320 Speaker 1: in the blue corona practical in house will be in 1778 01:24:29,360 --> 01:24:30,559 Speaker 1: the blue press box. 1779 01:24:30,720 --> 01:24:33,800 Speaker 3: But are they going to do spacing up there so 1780 01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:35,440 Speaker 3: we're not going to be crowded. 1781 01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:38,360 Speaker 16: And there's gonna be no visiting answering his question? 1782 01:24:38,479 --> 01:24:40,160 Speaker 3: Seriously for me, it just blew me right. 1783 01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:45,320 Speaker 1: Off, Eric, You'll be spaced out as normal. That's another 1784 01:24:45,479 --> 01:24:51,880 Speaker 1: great moment from all right back here and Patriots shows 1785 01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:56,560 Speaker 1: A five five past five hundred. Is the hotline podcasts 1786 01:24:56,560 --> 01:25:01,400 Speaker 1: at patriots dot com. Is the email get the newsletter 1787 01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:06,800 Speaker 1: that you should subscribe to Patriots dot com slash PU newsletter. 1788 01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:12,400 Speaker 3: Right, yeah, I don't know Ron Burgundy PU newsletter. 1789 01:25:12,560 --> 01:25:16,680 Speaker 1: So Patriots dot com slash PU newsletter anything good in it. 1790 01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:20,120 Speaker 12: Got to send you guys. Question still but just some some. 1791 01:25:20,040 --> 01:25:24,720 Speaker 1: Roster we'll have still the swag. 1792 01:25:24,560 --> 01:25:26,599 Speaker 12: Selfies of Deuce with this helmet. 1793 01:25:26,760 --> 01:25:30,639 Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay, So make sure you subscribe to the newsletter. 1794 01:25:30,800 --> 01:25:32,720 Speaker 3: Pretty sure Crush a Lot's going to make it into 1795 01:25:32,720 --> 01:25:33,360 Speaker 3: the newsletter. 1796 01:25:33,520 --> 01:25:38,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, going hard, Crush a lot, going hard. All right, 1797 01:25:39,160 --> 01:25:42,639 Speaker 1: lots of people calling in. Uh, let's see what they 1798 01:25:42,680 --> 01:25:47,600 Speaker 1: have to say. We'll start with Brian, who is in Arizona. 1799 01:25:47,760 --> 01:25:48,519 Speaker 1: What's up, Brian? 1800 01:25:49,800 --> 01:25:52,439 Speaker 9: Hi, y'all doing this morning? Well, it's good afternoon to 1801 01:25:52,479 --> 01:25:54,200 Speaker 9: you all right, y'all doing this morning? 1802 01:25:54,600 --> 01:25:54,840 Speaker 1: Good? 1803 01:25:54,920 --> 01:25:58,920 Speaker 9: Yeah, I wanted to talk about the Rivalry apparel. It 1804 01:25:59,000 --> 01:26:02,920 Speaker 9: is magnific and it's beautiful. Anybody who say they don't 1805 01:26:03,040 --> 01:26:08,320 Speaker 9: like this apparel, it's something wrong with its wrong. It's amazing. 1806 01:26:08,400 --> 01:26:11,240 Speaker 9: And the hoodie with the zipper, I have to have it. 1807 01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:14,559 Speaker 9: But I am gonna say I'm a little jealous because 1808 01:26:14,800 --> 01:26:16,960 Speaker 9: you'll able to Wood It's apparero and I don't have 1809 01:26:17,160 --> 01:26:21,520 Speaker 9: it yet, So I am jealous. But I love the apparel. 1810 01:26:21,640 --> 01:26:24,840 Speaker 9: It is beautiful and represent the patriots since I've been 1811 01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:29,639 Speaker 9: in Arizona, and I will continue. Thank you for having 1812 01:26:29,680 --> 01:26:31,800 Speaker 9: me or at least for me being able to get 1813 01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:34,280 Speaker 9: in because I've been trying to get through here for 1814 01:26:34,360 --> 01:26:37,280 Speaker 9: the longest and I'm finally being able to get through. 1815 01:26:37,520 --> 01:26:40,559 Speaker 9: I'm recording this and keep it for my personal record. 1816 01:26:40,640 --> 01:26:40,960 Speaker 1: Ha. 1817 01:26:42,120 --> 01:26:45,080 Speaker 9: Yes, this is gonna be our year. We're gonna do better. 1818 01:26:45,200 --> 01:26:47,479 Speaker 9: Just fill in a couple of spots he in there, 1819 01:26:47,840 --> 01:26:50,240 Speaker 9: but this is gonna be our turnaround here, all right? 1820 01:26:50,360 --> 01:26:52,960 Speaker 1: Well, thanks Brian. September tenth is when you can get 1821 01:26:53,000 --> 01:26:55,479 Speaker 1: your hoodie with the zipper, and once you do, send 1822 01:26:55,560 --> 01:26:56,519 Speaker 1: us your picture with it on. 1823 01:26:57,400 --> 01:27:00,599 Speaker 12: We should have made special edition podcast shirts this call there, and. 1824 01:27:00,560 --> 01:27:02,680 Speaker 3: Brian, if it makes you feel any better, we'll do that. 1825 01:27:03,200 --> 01:27:04,880 Speaker 3: We're not allowed to keep this stuff. We have to 1826 01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:05,320 Speaker 3: give it back. 1827 01:27:05,360 --> 01:27:07,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, we have to give it back to the show. Yeah, 1828 01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:10,280 Speaker 1: I'd love to have stuff to give away, but maybe 1829 01:27:10,439 --> 01:27:14,240 Speaker 1: in a future show, maybe on September tenth. So they 1830 01:27:14,360 --> 01:27:16,880 Speaker 1: usually do like limited runs of this stuff to kind 1831 01:27:16,880 --> 01:27:20,920 Speaker 1: of create the demand. But and you probably had to 1832 01:27:21,000 --> 01:27:24,640 Speaker 1: order it like five years ago. The way Nike works, 1833 01:27:26,280 --> 01:27:30,160 Speaker 1: it's it's it's tough, Paul, It's tough. Tony's on the 1834 01:27:31,240 --> 01:27:32,920 Speaker 1: Tony's on the Cape. What's up Tony? 1835 01:27:34,680 --> 01:27:37,479 Speaker 18: For a long time season ticket hold up? Great, the 1836 01:27:37,560 --> 01:27:42,800 Speaker 18: new the new jersey's the back of Paul's you had 1837 01:27:42,840 --> 01:27:46,080 Speaker 18: held it up. Does that get a red Patriots thing 1838 01:27:46,160 --> 01:27:46,559 Speaker 18: on the back? 1839 01:27:46,680 --> 01:27:52,280 Speaker 1: I well, let's see. Yeah, it's got the Patriots, uh 1840 01:27:52,720 --> 01:27:55,679 Speaker 1: with the with the Elvis logo? Yeah? 1841 01:27:55,760 --> 01:27:58,520 Speaker 18: Do they if they're making a bomber. 1842 01:27:58,240 --> 01:28:01,479 Speaker 1: Jacket, yeah, Evan Evan had. 1843 01:28:01,560 --> 01:28:02,759 Speaker 12: It was a cloth material. 1844 01:28:02,800 --> 01:28:07,280 Speaker 11: It wasn't quite like a jackety like a traditional bomber 1845 01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:08,360 Speaker 11: jacket material, but. 1846 01:28:08,640 --> 01:28:10,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like a bomber jacket. It had the 1847 01:28:10,720 --> 01:28:12,240 Speaker 1: you know, the cuffs and the collar. 1848 01:28:13,439 --> 01:28:17,640 Speaker 18: Because yep. The reason I asked is we got a 1849 01:28:17,880 --> 01:28:21,920 Speaker 18: thing for the Patriots back about a month ago. The 1850 01:28:22,000 --> 01:28:24,719 Speaker 18: season ticket holders are all getting a jacket this year, 1851 01:28:25,640 --> 01:28:28,080 Speaker 18: and you had to give them a size. I just 1852 01:28:28,160 --> 01:28:29,639 Speaker 18: wondered if it's in the new color. 1853 01:28:29,960 --> 01:28:31,800 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know it. 1854 01:28:34,040 --> 01:28:37,040 Speaker 18: Yeah, I think it still shop. But the only thing 1855 01:28:37,080 --> 01:28:38,800 Speaker 18: I would have done different I might have put a 1856 01:28:38,800 --> 01:28:40,879 Speaker 18: little red around the new England. 1857 01:28:42,200 --> 01:28:45,720 Speaker 1: Okay, you might make it, yeah, just to pop a 1858 01:28:45,720 --> 01:28:50,519 Speaker 1: little bit. Okay, yeah, yeah, okay. 1859 01:28:49,880 --> 01:28:52,000 Speaker 18: Red in the back of Paul's thing. When you held 1860 01:28:52,000 --> 01:28:55,639 Speaker 18: that up earlier, I know that it made it seemed 1861 01:28:55,640 --> 01:28:56,759 Speaker 18: to pop a little more. 1862 01:28:56,960 --> 01:28:59,960 Speaker 1: Okay, little red detail, I got you, Tony, all right, 1863 01:29:00,240 --> 01:29:04,960 Speaker 1: thank you for the call. Longtime season ticket holder. Yeah, 1864 01:29:04,960 --> 01:29:07,120 Speaker 1: every year, if you're a season ticket holder, you get 1865 01:29:07,160 --> 01:29:09,679 Speaker 1: some type of present. I guess this year they're getting 1866 01:29:09,720 --> 01:29:10,519 Speaker 1: winter jackets. 1867 01:29:11,040 --> 01:29:13,400 Speaker 12: Is a pretty good one. I like the blankets from 1868 01:29:13,400 --> 01:29:14,200 Speaker 12: a couple of years ago. 1869 01:29:15,640 --> 01:29:17,479 Speaker 1: Vinnie's in Vegas. What's up, Vinnie? 1870 01:29:18,880 --> 01:29:23,560 Speaker 10: Hey, guys, how's it going good? You know, I apologize 1871 01:29:23,600 --> 01:29:25,720 Speaker 10: if you guys spoke about this earlier. You know I 1872 01:29:25,800 --> 01:29:28,040 Speaker 10: was able to log in a little later. 1873 01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:29,160 Speaker 27: Uh. 1874 01:29:29,600 --> 01:29:31,720 Speaker 10: I have a couple of questions for you guys. The 1875 01:29:31,760 --> 01:29:34,519 Speaker 10: first one is is it time for us to start 1876 01:29:34,560 --> 01:29:41,439 Speaker 10: worrying about the cornerbacks because of the injuries? And the 1877 01:29:41,520 --> 01:29:47,519 Speaker 10: second question is is there any benefit of keeping two 1878 01:29:47,560 --> 01:29:52,400 Speaker 10: guys like you know, Born and Baker and then releasing 1879 01:29:52,479 --> 01:29:54,839 Speaker 10: him the next day? I mean, is there any anything 1880 01:29:54,920 --> 01:29:57,280 Speaker 10: to do with that or is it just how it rolls? 1881 01:29:57,920 --> 01:30:00,080 Speaker 3: So I'll take the second one. We did talk a 1882 01:30:00,160 --> 01:30:02,879 Speaker 3: bit about Gonzales earlier in the show, and we're starting 1883 01:30:02,880 --> 01:30:05,320 Speaker 3: to get a little concerns that he's still not on 1884 01:30:05,360 --> 01:30:08,759 Speaker 3: the practice field. But I guess we'll reserve till next week, 1885 01:30:09,160 --> 01:30:13,200 Speaker 3: which is actual game week before we get too worked 1886 01:30:13,240 --> 01:30:16,320 Speaker 3: up about it. But the roster thing, to me, is 1887 01:30:16,400 --> 01:30:20,080 Speaker 3: more procedural, and they ended up claiming a couple of 1888 01:30:20,080 --> 01:30:23,040 Speaker 3: players off waivers that obviously you don't know you're going 1889 01:30:23,120 --> 01:30:25,880 Speaker 3: to be able to do beforehand, and that's where the 1890 01:30:25,960 --> 01:30:30,960 Speaker 3: roster spots came from. And with Bourne, it certainly seems 1891 01:30:31,000 --> 01:30:34,599 Speaker 3: that there's enough smoke around a potential trade that they 1892 01:30:34,600 --> 01:30:39,880 Speaker 3: had in the works and it fell through. So I 1893 01:30:39,920 --> 01:30:42,559 Speaker 3: think that's why you saw Born and Baker originally on 1894 01:30:42,600 --> 01:30:44,639 Speaker 3: the roster, and then you get you get a couple 1895 01:30:44,640 --> 01:30:47,800 Speaker 3: of waiver claims, so now they know, you know the 1896 01:30:47,880 --> 01:30:50,439 Speaker 3: direction they want to go. You know, you have a 1897 01:30:50,479 --> 01:30:52,840 Speaker 3: surplus of wide receivers. So that made a lot of sense. 1898 01:30:52,960 --> 01:30:54,599 Speaker 1: When is the actual trade deadline? 1899 01:30:54,640 --> 01:30:58,559 Speaker 3: It's like early yeah, yeah, it's like yeah, it's like 1900 01:30:58,600 --> 01:31:01,280 Speaker 3: eight weeks in, nine we into the season now, so 1901 01:31:01,400 --> 01:31:02,840 Speaker 3: pushed it back a little bit, you know. 1902 01:31:02,920 --> 01:31:07,320 Speaker 1: That was like, yeah, kind of November fourth, So kind 1903 01:31:07,320 --> 01:31:09,760 Speaker 1: of like the thing about cut day is and I 1904 01:31:09,840 --> 01:31:12,439 Speaker 1: was I texted Evan because they were doing Catch twenty 1905 01:31:12,439 --> 01:31:17,760 Speaker 1: two and during the show the Born news broke, and 1906 01:31:18,760 --> 01:31:21,160 Speaker 1: you know, I texted him, I said, this is a 1907 01:31:21,200 --> 01:31:24,800 Speaker 1: great example that cut day is just a formality. It's 1908 01:31:24,880 --> 01:31:26,680 Speaker 1: just a day by which you have to get down 1909 01:31:26,720 --> 01:31:30,679 Speaker 1: to fifty three. But once that happens, you're still free 1910 01:31:30,680 --> 01:31:33,599 Speaker 1: to cut and bring guys in and you know, sign 1911 01:31:33,680 --> 01:31:36,320 Speaker 1: them off the street, make trades with other teams right 1912 01:31:36,360 --> 01:31:41,400 Speaker 1: up to November fourth, you know, so the roster's fluid. Yeah, 1913 01:31:41,640 --> 01:31:41,840 Speaker 1: you know. 1914 01:31:42,960 --> 01:31:45,320 Speaker 3: So before we went to break, I was doing the 1915 01:31:45,640 --> 01:31:47,840 Speaker 3: James White thing and I just wanted to, you know, 1916 01:31:48,600 --> 01:31:53,240 Speaker 3: finish that up. James White in college at at Wisconsin. 1917 01:31:53,439 --> 01:31:57,320 Speaker 3: First of all, you had forty eight career touchdowns at Wisconsin, 1918 01:31:57,360 --> 01:31:59,320 Speaker 3: but it seemed just going with his senior year, you 1919 01:31:59,360 --> 01:32:01,960 Speaker 3: had fourteen hundred and forty four yards rushing over six 1920 01:32:02,000 --> 01:32:05,200 Speaker 3: and a half yards to carry thirteen touchdowns. Plus he 1921 01:32:05,240 --> 01:32:07,840 Speaker 3: caught thirty nine balls for three hundred more yards in 1922 01:32:07,880 --> 01:32:11,040 Speaker 3: a couple of touchdowns. So just telling you what James 1923 01:32:11,120 --> 01:32:13,360 Speaker 3: White was coming out of college. What he ended up 1924 01:32:13,360 --> 01:32:15,760 Speaker 3: being is not as dynamic as what we've seen so 1925 01:32:15,880 --> 01:32:19,640 Speaker 3: far from chevy On Henderson. But in college he was 1926 01:32:20,160 --> 01:32:23,400 Speaker 3: He was better than trevy On Henderson that Wisconsin, and 1927 01:32:23,479 --> 01:32:26,120 Speaker 3: Henderson was an excellent player. Don't get me wrong, but 1928 01:32:27,160 --> 01:32:29,479 Speaker 3: I think people sort of look and they see, like 1929 01:32:30,000 --> 01:32:33,439 Speaker 3: what White ended up being was like this reliable first 1930 01:32:33,479 --> 01:32:36,920 Speaker 3: down you know, chain mover, but he was more than 1931 01:32:36,920 --> 01:32:39,200 Speaker 3: that coming out of college. Yeah, that's what he ended 1932 01:32:39,280 --> 01:32:42,400 Speaker 3: up being. We'll see what Henderson ends up being. 1933 01:32:42,479 --> 01:32:44,519 Speaker 1: You know. And there were a couple of games, you 1934 01:32:44,560 --> 01:32:47,960 Speaker 1: know that I can remember where White, because of circumstances, 1935 01:32:48,000 --> 01:32:50,880 Speaker 1: had to be the lead back. Sometimes it happened during 1936 01:32:50,920 --> 01:32:54,360 Speaker 1: a game because somebody would go down. He wasn't dynamic 1937 01:32:54,400 --> 01:32:58,120 Speaker 1: in that role. He really wasn't, you know. 1938 01:32:58,280 --> 01:33:00,680 Speaker 3: No, he didn't have he did not have the high 1939 01:33:00,800 --> 01:33:03,759 Speaker 3: end speed that Henderson has. Yeah, I would say Henderson 1940 01:33:03,880 --> 01:33:07,759 Speaker 3: right now has more potential to be a big play threat, 1941 01:33:07,760 --> 01:33:10,240 Speaker 3: But I don't know if he's going to be what 1942 01:33:10,240 --> 01:33:13,160 Speaker 3: what White was. I mean White was why was really good? 1943 01:33:13,400 --> 01:33:17,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, it was so reliable and if you needed 1944 01:33:17,160 --> 01:33:20,960 Speaker 1: those that extra yard, he figured out how to get it. 1945 01:33:21,040 --> 01:33:22,320 Speaker 1: He was tough to bring down. 1946 01:33:22,920 --> 01:33:25,960 Speaker 3: Henderson had forty two touchdowns at Ohio State. Like this 1947 01:33:26,040 --> 01:33:28,400 Speaker 3: is like White was on par with Henderson. 1948 01:33:28,600 --> 01:33:30,920 Speaker 11: Yeah, I think he's just recency bias in Ohio State 1949 01:33:31,439 --> 01:33:33,200 Speaker 11: one yep. 1950 01:33:34,960 --> 01:33:38,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. And over the years, like a lot of running 1951 01:33:38,120 --> 01:33:43,040 Speaker 1: backs out of Wisconsin, like they had really good college careers, 1952 01:33:43,040 --> 01:33:45,680 Speaker 1: but never did what they did in college and the 1953 01:33:45,680 --> 01:33:47,439 Speaker 1: pros like Monty Ball, for example. 1954 01:33:47,640 --> 01:33:50,120 Speaker 3: You know Wisconsin guys. 1955 01:33:50,560 --> 01:33:53,360 Speaker 1: Wisconsin running backs because they always have great offensive lines 1956 01:33:53,400 --> 01:33:54,040 Speaker 1: in Wisconsin. 1957 01:33:54,160 --> 01:33:58,960 Speaker 3: Ron Dayne, Ron Dayne. Yep, Monty Ball. That's a good one. 1958 01:33:59,200 --> 01:34:00,680 Speaker 3: Like Elvin Gordon was pretty good though. 1959 01:34:00,800 --> 01:34:03,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. I like Melvin Gordon. I like him. 1960 01:34:04,160 --> 01:34:09,120 Speaker 3: AJ Wisconsin tight in the head. Hey, are you ever amazed. 1961 01:34:08,720 --> 01:34:11,000 Speaker 12: To recall aritible. 1962 01:34:12,120 --> 01:34:12,720 Speaker 1: Wisconsin? 1963 01:34:13,200 --> 01:34:14,960 Speaker 3: You just looked at me like Beth would like with this, 1964 01:34:15,200 --> 01:34:16,479 Speaker 3: just disappointed looking. 1965 01:34:16,640 --> 01:34:19,280 Speaker 12: How do you know that's disappointment? Just bewilderment, a little 1966 01:34:19,280 --> 01:34:20,200 Speaker 12: bit bewilderment. 1967 01:34:21,760 --> 01:34:25,200 Speaker 1: AJ from the Bay Area. New uniforms are cool personally. 1968 01:34:25,280 --> 01:34:27,879 Speaker 1: I'm just encouraged to see the faintest trace of uniform 1969 01:34:28,000 --> 01:34:31,200 Speaker 1: creativity from the Patriots. I just hope this signal is 1970 01:34:31,240 --> 01:34:34,759 Speaker 1: a permanent, gradual transition from gray to white helmets. 1971 01:34:35,400 --> 01:34:35,800 Speaker 4: Mm hmm. 1972 01:34:36,080 --> 01:34:36,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1973 01:34:36,360 --> 01:34:38,840 Speaker 3: I people are universally in love with that. 1974 01:34:39,080 --> 01:34:42,200 Speaker 1: I love the helmet. I still like for an alternate 1975 01:34:42,320 --> 01:34:46,040 Speaker 1: jersey or alternate uniform. I'd love to see the traditional 1976 01:34:46,080 --> 01:34:49,519 Speaker 1: white with the traditional elvis. I think that would really 1977 01:34:49,520 --> 01:34:52,639 Speaker 1: look cool like gloss. Yeah, and then have a red, 1978 01:34:53,240 --> 01:34:58,800 Speaker 1: have a red to go with that, right, So I mean, 1979 01:34:59,479 --> 01:35:02,080 Speaker 1: you know, and due time, there'll be plenty of alternate 1980 01:35:02,680 --> 01:35:06,280 Speaker 1: uniforms for all these teams because it's money and the 1981 01:35:06,320 --> 01:35:14,439 Speaker 1: fans like choices. So uh, Matt in Rochester, New York 1982 01:35:14,920 --> 01:35:18,120 Speaker 1: love the Rivalry uniforms. I think this shade of blue 1983 01:35:18,200 --> 01:35:21,760 Speaker 1: is really cool for one game. My hope we take 1984 01:35:21,800 --> 01:35:24,519 Speaker 1: this concept style and make it our main jersey next 1985 01:35:24,600 --> 01:35:28,439 Speaker 1: year with the current Navy color scheme. Keep the white 1986 01:35:28,439 --> 01:35:31,439 Speaker 1: pants in white helmet, and it'll be huge improvement over 1987 01:35:31,479 --> 01:35:35,559 Speaker 1: our current awful uniforms. Question any idea when the captains 1988 01:35:35,600 --> 01:35:37,479 Speaker 1: will be announced? Predictions on who they will be? 1989 01:35:39,600 --> 01:35:42,920 Speaker 3: I don't know when they will be announced. It's hard 1990 01:35:42,920 --> 01:35:45,320 Speaker 3: for me to Before the season you get a new coach. 1991 01:35:45,160 --> 01:35:47,160 Speaker 11: Yeah, Bill used to always do it. What that last 1992 01:35:47,200 --> 01:35:48,880 Speaker 11: week of practice before week one? 1993 01:35:49,120 --> 01:35:49,360 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1994 01:35:49,360 --> 01:35:51,160 Speaker 3: But I also had an idea of who Bill was 1995 01:35:51,200 --> 01:35:52,840 Speaker 3: going to be, sorry, who they were going to have 1996 01:35:52,920 --> 01:35:54,120 Speaker 3: for captains. 1997 01:35:53,920 --> 01:35:56,439 Speaker 12: Right, yeah? Like will able to do a vote or 1998 01:35:56,479 --> 01:35:57,599 Speaker 12: will he just appoint them? 1999 01:35:58,080 --> 01:36:00,560 Speaker 3: And I don't know if he actually does it, do 2000 01:36:01,080 --> 01:36:02,760 Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Like with Bill, I kind 2001 01:36:02,760 --> 01:36:05,440 Speaker 3: of knew how it was going to unfold. 2002 01:36:05,280 --> 01:36:07,160 Speaker 1: After a while you put his thumb on the scale. 2003 01:36:07,200 --> 01:36:09,840 Speaker 3: Oh, I know he did, But I don't know if 2004 01:36:09,920 --> 01:36:12,559 Speaker 3: Rabel just leaves it completely up to the players and 2005 01:36:12,600 --> 01:36:15,040 Speaker 3: when that happens to me, if it's strictly a player 2006 01:36:15,160 --> 01:36:18,719 Speaker 3: vote and that's like there's no thumb on the scale 2007 01:36:18,720 --> 01:36:24,040 Speaker 3: to use your analogy, I think it's completely unpredictable. Who 2008 01:36:24,040 --> 01:36:26,160 Speaker 3: knows who the players think of that way. 2009 01:36:27,920 --> 01:36:29,800 Speaker 1: Tyler in New York wants to know if are the 2010 01:36:29,880 --> 01:36:33,280 Speaker 1: details on the apparel where you're wearing stitched or screen 2011 01:36:33,400 --> 01:36:37,639 Speaker 1: printed stitched? So, well, this is I mean, this is heat, 2012 01:36:37,680 --> 01:36:42,840 Speaker 1: but it's not flat. It's raised raised stitch and Nike 2013 01:36:43,000 --> 01:36:44,200 Speaker 1: stat stitch. 2014 01:36:43,840 --> 01:36:46,439 Speaker 3: In the in the NFL logo here and this is Yeah, 2015 01:36:46,560 --> 01:36:49,000 Speaker 3: it's not like there was one one of those shirts 2016 01:36:49,280 --> 01:36:51,120 Speaker 3: had it like screened. 2017 01:36:51,320 --> 01:36:54,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, so this is like sewed on on the edge. Yeah, 2018 01:36:54,479 --> 01:36:57,000 Speaker 1: it's sowed on, but it's like rubber. Yeah, you know, 2019 01:36:58,600 --> 01:36:59,280 Speaker 1: so it's raised. 2020 01:37:01,320 --> 01:37:02,759 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna applica, I mean. 2021 01:37:02,680 --> 01:37:03,160 Speaker 12: Yeah, I don't know. 2022 01:37:03,200 --> 01:37:04,559 Speaker 3: I'm not going to protect anything. 2023 01:37:04,640 --> 01:37:07,880 Speaker 11: Application applica is That's what I think I was going for. 2024 01:37:09,560 --> 01:37:12,680 Speaker 3: Can I just have one I'll do one prediction for 2025 01:37:12,720 --> 01:37:16,360 Speaker 3: a captain rocket Splaine. Yeah, I'm going to predict Robert 2026 01:37:16,400 --> 01:37:20,400 Speaker 3: sp well he better be. Yeah, that's a bad sign 2027 01:37:20,439 --> 01:37:21,320 Speaker 3: if he's not the captain. 2028 01:37:21,439 --> 01:37:22,479 Speaker 1: Right, So there's two. 2029 01:37:23,040 --> 01:37:24,719 Speaker 12: But I'm just gonna Henry. 2030 01:37:24,720 --> 01:37:28,040 Speaker 3: Maybe Henry was a captain. I believe last year was. 2031 01:37:28,320 --> 01:37:33,880 Speaker 11: Two years still then drawed the draw year Hunter was 2032 01:37:33,920 --> 01:37:36,320 Speaker 11: not a captain, but then there were so many captain 2033 01:37:36,400 --> 01:37:40,040 Speaker 11: casualties that Hunter was then appointed again as captain. And 2034 01:37:40,040 --> 01:37:43,600 Speaker 11: I always thought that was a little awkward. Okay, and 2035 01:37:43,640 --> 01:37:48,000 Speaker 11: I think Douggar was also appointed after Bentley and Pep 2036 01:37:48,040 --> 01:37:48,599 Speaker 11: went down. 2037 01:37:49,400 --> 01:37:49,800 Speaker 12: I don't know. 2038 01:37:49,960 --> 01:37:54,360 Speaker 11: Last year was a bad year for captains, name Vid Andrews. 2039 01:37:54,640 --> 01:37:57,440 Speaker 12: They all all of them, favor for Cardon. 2040 01:37:57,200 --> 01:38:01,440 Speaker 1: Bentley was a captain, he got hurt. Hurt Ellen Wisconsin 2041 01:38:01,560 --> 01:38:04,080 Speaker 1: love the new uniforms. Everyone can have their grites with 2042 01:38:04,160 --> 01:38:06,439 Speaker 1: certain parts, but as an overall product, they think it 2043 01:38:06,439 --> 01:38:09,439 Speaker 1: looks great. Best Elvis has ever looked on a helmet. 2044 01:38:09,479 --> 01:38:12,479 Speaker 1: But with how good that any logo looks, I'd be 2045 01:38:12,520 --> 01:38:16,080 Speaker 1: happy with just having that as the main logo going forward. 2046 01:38:17,200 --> 01:38:18,320 Speaker 1: Oh that's a bold take. 2047 01:38:18,439 --> 01:38:22,040 Speaker 3: It kind of like it. Yeah, I kind of like 2048 01:38:22,120 --> 01:38:22,559 Speaker 3: that take. 2049 01:38:22,880 --> 01:38:29,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, all right, I'm with it. 2050 01:38:29,320 --> 01:38:30,400 Speaker 12: I want it on a hat. 2051 01:38:30,720 --> 01:38:33,240 Speaker 3: What if you put that on the helmet? 2052 01:38:34,439 --> 01:38:35,920 Speaker 1: I think that would look cool too, you. 2053 01:38:35,880 --> 01:38:37,599 Speaker 3: Know, kind of like the n Y and the Giants. 2054 01:38:37,720 --> 01:38:41,040 Speaker 11: Yeah, you should have Devin and Stitch just print out 2055 01:38:41,040 --> 01:38:42,880 Speaker 11: a decal just for fun, just to show us what 2056 01:38:42,920 --> 01:38:43,360 Speaker 11: it would look like. 2057 01:38:43,439 --> 01:38:45,200 Speaker 1: And then you do that. Oh no, you look like 2058 01:38:45,240 --> 01:38:47,200 Speaker 1: the Giants. You can't win, you can't. 2059 01:38:47,040 --> 01:38:50,479 Speaker 3: Well, we look like the Titans now, so Claire Wrights 2060 01:38:50,520 --> 01:38:51,719 Speaker 3: in Hello everyone, hanover. 2061 01:38:51,800 --> 01:38:55,160 Speaker 1: Reen. I love Alex, but I gotta disagree. I'm good 2062 01:38:55,160 --> 01:38:57,360 Speaker 1: with jerseys, even on grown ass men. 2063 01:38:58,320 --> 01:39:01,000 Speaker 12: Reach their own. Claire also hold that against you. 2064 01:39:01,240 --> 01:39:03,960 Speaker 1: I do like the rivalry un rivalries. 2065 01:39:04,240 --> 01:39:08,600 Speaker 3: Uniforms a difficult word to say, rivalry, like you have 2066 01:39:08,640 --> 01:39:11,040 Speaker 3: to sort of think about it when Yeah. 2067 01:39:10,600 --> 01:39:14,240 Speaker 1: I definitely agree. The sideline apparel is lush. Can't wait 2068 01:39:14,280 --> 01:39:17,799 Speaker 1: to hopefully get hold of some any ideas of anything 2069 01:39:17,840 --> 01:39:21,880 Speaker 1: that will be review released in women's fit and sizes. Well, 2070 01:39:21,880 --> 01:39:22,799 Speaker 1: we do have the crop. 2071 01:39:22,920 --> 01:39:24,599 Speaker 12: Yeah, it was that crop crew neck. 2072 01:39:25,240 --> 01:39:27,360 Speaker 11: It's not like a full crop either, Like it's not 2073 01:39:27,439 --> 01:39:30,439 Speaker 11: a belly shirt. It's probably it's probably gonna fall at 2074 01:39:30,479 --> 01:39:32,200 Speaker 11: I'd say, like the top of your hip bone. 2075 01:39:32,240 --> 01:39:34,280 Speaker 1: Middrift. They call it middrift. 2076 01:39:35,000 --> 01:39:37,160 Speaker 11: Yeah, like right under the I think I'd imagine it 2077 01:39:37,160 --> 01:39:38,479 Speaker 11: fell right under the belly button. 2078 01:39:38,920 --> 01:39:41,400 Speaker 1: So if anyone from the Pro shops watching or listening 2079 01:39:41,720 --> 01:39:43,559 Speaker 1: and you want to call in and give us more 2080 01:39:43,600 --> 01:39:46,840 Speaker 1: details on some other stuff that we didn't show that 2081 01:39:46,960 --> 01:39:50,320 Speaker 1: might become available for sideline stuff, let us know. 2082 01:39:51,600 --> 01:39:56,479 Speaker 3: You know, we have to drop your reach ken right. 2083 01:39:58,720 --> 01:40:00,919 Speaker 1: We always used to try to call let me. Never picked. 2084 01:40:02,280 --> 01:40:02,400 Speaker 19: Him. 2085 01:40:04,000 --> 01:40:05,600 Speaker 1: We just called the pro Shop and we'd get his 2086 01:40:05,680 --> 01:40:07,439 Speaker 1: voice to be in charge of. We used to play 2087 01:40:07,479 --> 01:40:08,559 Speaker 1: that who was a bit. 2088 01:40:08,880 --> 01:40:11,519 Speaker 3: He was a great guy and we used to always 2089 01:40:11,600 --> 01:40:14,160 Speaker 3: bring calling him on the show. 2090 01:40:14,520 --> 01:40:16,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, get him on the line. We should do 2091 01:40:16,920 --> 01:40:18,120 Speaker 1: that with people around the office. 2092 01:40:18,120 --> 01:40:19,360 Speaker 12: We should thing ditch people. 2093 01:40:19,520 --> 01:40:22,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, not ditch him, like see if they answer and 2094 01:40:22,040 --> 01:40:22,640 Speaker 1: then put them on. 2095 01:40:23,160 --> 01:40:24,599 Speaker 12: I'm with it. Who do you start with? 2096 01:40:25,200 --> 01:40:26,720 Speaker 3: What would you do here? 2097 01:40:27,400 --> 01:40:28,480 Speaker 12: I would call Tip. 2098 01:40:29,600 --> 01:40:31,080 Speaker 1: Tip, Yeah, that would be good. 2099 01:40:31,320 --> 01:40:33,080 Speaker 12: We would wake him up from his nap. His feet 2100 01:40:33,080 --> 01:40:35,479 Speaker 12: would be on his desk, Like, what are you call 2101 01:40:35,560 --> 01:40:35,800 Speaker 12: him for? 2102 01:40:37,240 --> 01:40:38,639 Speaker 1: How about we'll call Robert Kraft. 2103 01:40:39,520 --> 01:40:41,360 Speaker 11: I don't have that line, but I'm sure you do. 2104 01:40:45,880 --> 01:40:46,479 Speaker 12: If you want to. 2105 01:40:47,439 --> 01:40:52,559 Speaker 1: Uh, Yeah, who would like be most put off or not? 2106 01:40:52,640 --> 01:40:58,040 Speaker 1: Put off, but like, rat, what are you doing? Yeah, Karen, Yeah, 2107 01:40:58,080 --> 01:41:00,920 Speaker 1: that would be a good one from. 2108 01:41:03,760 --> 01:41:08,280 Speaker 12: Someone from the video team like Bradley would probably get flustered. Yeah, 2109 01:41:08,520 --> 01:41:09,400 Speaker 12: it could be a fun bit. 2110 01:41:10,720 --> 01:41:19,040 Speaker 1: All right, let's see Curtis in Saint Louis. I'm liking 2111 01:41:19,080 --> 01:41:23,160 Speaker 1: the new rivalry line. It's different, it's traditional looking. I 2112 01:41:23,240 --> 01:41:26,400 Speaker 1: do have a problem with the color. I agree with 2113 01:41:26,439 --> 01:41:28,639 Speaker 1: Paul and the helmets looking a little like the Titans, 2114 01:41:28,640 --> 01:41:31,719 Speaker 1: But overall, I'm a fan. I will definitely be purchasing 2115 01:41:31,760 --> 01:41:34,080 Speaker 1: that zip up hoodie. Would love to see a ball 2116 01:41:34,160 --> 01:41:38,400 Speaker 1: cap to match. My only critique on the jerseys are 2117 01:41:38,439 --> 01:41:41,479 Speaker 1: the red stars around the collar, but overall I'm looking 2118 01:41:41,479 --> 01:41:44,040 Speaker 1: forward to see them in action. I like the red stars, 2119 01:41:44,040 --> 01:41:45,920 Speaker 1: you know, because you're looking for that red pop. Like 2120 01:41:45,960 --> 01:41:47,240 Speaker 1: one of the callers said. 2121 01:41:47,120 --> 01:41:48,479 Speaker 12: First color the ICs red. 2122 01:41:48,600 --> 01:41:51,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, so there's six of them. Represents two things, the 2123 01:41:52,000 --> 01:41:55,280 Speaker 1: six Super Bowl trophies and the six New England states. 2124 01:41:56,320 --> 01:41:59,080 Speaker 1: So you know, we're the only team that represents a 2125 01:41:59,120 --> 01:41:59,719 Speaker 1: whole region. 2126 01:41:59,760 --> 01:42:01,880 Speaker 12: Paul, what about the Carolina Panthers? 2127 01:42:02,120 --> 01:42:02,759 Speaker 1: Is that a region? 2128 01:42:02,920 --> 01:42:06,080 Speaker 12: It's not a region. But I decided to. 2129 01:42:06,000 --> 01:42:09,519 Speaker 3: Sit that one out because the Carolina Panthers not the 2130 01:42:09,520 --> 01:42:11,360 Speaker 3: North Carolina, right, that's true. 2131 01:42:11,320 --> 01:42:14,519 Speaker 11: The most basic sense of the word region, Like, yeah, 2132 01:42:14,600 --> 01:42:17,600 Speaker 11: it's a region. It's not an official region of the 2133 01:42:17,680 --> 01:42:21,519 Speaker 11: United States like New England is, but it's a region 2134 01:42:21,800 --> 01:42:22,639 Speaker 11: that's a part of it. 2135 01:42:22,760 --> 01:42:26,360 Speaker 3: I also would say, much like the Carolina really, what 2136 01:42:26,560 --> 01:42:30,839 Speaker 3: Fred really the Charlotte Charlotte's Yeah, much like the Patriots 2137 01:42:30,840 --> 01:42:32,040 Speaker 3: are really the Boston Patriots. 2138 01:42:32,120 --> 01:42:36,080 Speaker 12: But that's just my well, I launch, well, the Panthers 2139 01:42:36,080 --> 01:42:36,799 Speaker 12: are in Charlotte. 2140 01:42:36,880 --> 01:42:37,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I can't be a h. 2141 01:42:37,840 --> 01:42:40,480 Speaker 3: No, no, I know that, But the Patriots. 2142 01:42:40,320 --> 01:42:43,080 Speaker 1: I can't be a hypocrite about that. The Patriots can't 2143 01:42:43,120 --> 01:42:44,080 Speaker 1: call themselves Boston. 2144 01:42:44,120 --> 01:42:47,960 Speaker 3: It was a petty squabble, you know, fifty years ago, just. 2145 01:42:47,880 --> 01:42:51,040 Speaker 1: Like New Jersey can't call themselves New York. 2146 01:42:51,160 --> 01:42:54,840 Speaker 3: It wasn't just like marketing because I couldn't end up 2147 01:42:55,080 --> 01:42:58,559 Speaker 3: getting Billy Sullivan couldn't get the stadium in Boston, Okay, 2148 01:42:58,680 --> 01:42:59,719 Speaker 3: and he pouted. 2149 01:43:00,120 --> 01:43:01,959 Speaker 12: I think it worked out for marketing purposes. 2150 01:43:02,000 --> 01:43:04,200 Speaker 3: Now you have look at this six. 2151 01:43:04,040 --> 01:43:07,200 Speaker 1: States, so I guess who's back. 2152 01:43:12,040 --> 01:43:27,080 Speaker 2: Look what was the mood players friendly to? What was like? 2153 01:43:27,680 --> 01:43:29,439 Speaker 5: Is that am Locker? 2154 01:43:30,360 --> 01:43:35,720 Speaker 1: That is the best return song? So sorry, yeah it 2155 01:43:35,760 --> 01:43:38,639 Speaker 1: is it really is. So Evan induced are back from 2156 01:43:38,720 --> 01:43:41,040 Speaker 1: open locker room, tell us what the mood is. 2157 01:43:41,479 --> 01:43:43,040 Speaker 6: The mood is, let's get out of here and get 2158 01:43:43,080 --> 01:43:45,080 Speaker 6: on vacation was generally what the move was a lot 2159 01:43:45,080 --> 01:43:46,000 Speaker 6: of players getting out of. 2160 01:43:45,960 --> 01:43:47,599 Speaker 5: There quick weekend. 2161 01:43:47,760 --> 01:43:50,880 Speaker 6: I did hear from Tommy DeVito, Uh, spoke at his locker, 2162 01:43:51,000 --> 01:43:51,720 Speaker 6: so it was good to hear. 2163 01:43:51,840 --> 01:43:54,439 Speaker 3: Did anybody he was asked about the north front of 2164 01:43:54,479 --> 01:43:59,000 Speaker 3: the voice? Oh voice, anybody like ask questions? 2165 01:43:59,080 --> 01:44:01,800 Speaker 6: No, no, no, no, but it was a voice like, 2166 01:44:01,880 --> 01:44:03,000 Speaker 6: so north end. 2167 01:44:03,360 --> 01:44:04,479 Speaker 3: So you're Italian? Huh. 2168 01:44:04,880 --> 01:44:08,000 Speaker 4: We did ask somebody did ask if mom is coming, 2169 01:44:08,320 --> 01:44:10,320 Speaker 4: and Mom is not coming. She's going to stay in 2170 01:44:10,360 --> 01:44:12,760 Speaker 4: New Jersey. So he's going to live on his own. 2171 01:44:12,880 --> 01:44:17,200 Speaker 4: He said, big're gonna have chicken parma. But he said again, 2172 01:44:17,439 --> 01:44:20,599 Speaker 4: so I'm assuming college probably was was on his own 2173 01:44:20,680 --> 01:44:23,680 Speaker 4: as well, so he's not his first rodeo. But there 2174 01:44:23,720 --> 01:44:27,920 Speaker 4: were a lot of jokes about our Italian food here 2175 01:44:27,920 --> 01:44:30,640 Speaker 4: in the Boston area and how much he's going to 2176 01:44:30,760 --> 01:44:31,920 Speaker 4: enjoy it, that sort of thing. 2177 01:44:32,720 --> 01:44:34,439 Speaker 6: The football stuff was kind of interesting, Like he said, 2178 01:44:34,439 --> 01:44:35,960 Speaker 6: he kind of had a like he kind of had 2179 01:44:36,000 --> 01:44:38,519 Speaker 6: a feeling that it might happen, especially you mentioned the 2180 01:44:38,520 --> 01:44:42,519 Speaker 6: Patriots being fourth in the pecking order, so I'm not 2181 01:44:42,560 --> 01:44:45,320 Speaker 6: sure what that inkling was. But he seemed very excited 2182 01:44:45,360 --> 01:44:47,519 Speaker 6: to be here and said his agent we all know, 2183 01:44:47,680 --> 01:44:49,400 Speaker 6: called him up and told them and they were they 2184 01:44:49,400 --> 01:44:51,800 Speaker 6: were fired up about it. So, yeah, he seems happy 2185 01:44:51,800 --> 01:44:52,200 Speaker 6: to be here. 2186 01:44:52,240 --> 01:44:52,679 Speaker 1: Interesting. 2187 01:44:53,000 --> 01:44:56,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, he mentioned, you know, some of the overlap with 2188 01:44:56,960 --> 01:44:59,280 Speaker 4: the front office, Ryan Cowden being in New York for 2189 01:44:59,320 --> 01:45:02,280 Speaker 4: a little while and then Brian Dable being a former 2190 01:45:02,280 --> 01:45:05,719 Speaker 4: Patriots assistant. So he said, there's people in the Giants 2191 01:45:05,800 --> 01:45:08,760 Speaker 4: organization that have spent time here, so that he had 2192 01:45:08,800 --> 01:45:12,000 Speaker 4: some feedback of what exactly it was going to be 2193 01:45:12,080 --> 01:45:14,720 Speaker 4: like here and things like that, and some overlap with 2194 01:45:14,800 --> 01:45:18,360 Speaker 4: the offenses with Dabell and Josh McDaniels. So there was 2195 01:45:18,400 --> 01:45:20,679 Speaker 4: some football stuff in there. Wasn't all just jokes. 2196 01:45:21,080 --> 01:45:22,920 Speaker 5: The jokes and his mom. 2197 01:45:23,200 --> 01:45:23,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, appropriate. 2198 01:45:23,960 --> 01:45:26,559 Speaker 6: But Anthony Jennings was also in the locker room, so 2199 01:45:26,600 --> 01:45:29,600 Speaker 6: he was not at practice. I wonder what's going on 2200 01:45:29,640 --> 01:45:31,519 Speaker 6: with roster juggling, so he was in the locker room. 2201 01:45:31,560 --> 01:45:33,760 Speaker 6: Didn't happen to catch Javon Baker. 2202 01:45:33,600 --> 01:45:38,240 Speaker 4: Did talk to Jennings yesterday, it was Yeah, I briefly 2203 01:45:38,240 --> 01:45:40,840 Speaker 4: talked to him and he's he said, he's ready to go. 2204 01:45:41,120 --> 01:45:43,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, a Patriot. 2205 01:45:44,080 --> 01:45:46,840 Speaker 6: But they don't have any names above the lockers right now, 2206 01:45:46,840 --> 01:45:48,599 Speaker 6: there's no there's just Patriot logos. 2207 01:45:48,600 --> 01:45:50,920 Speaker 1: So those are digital anyway. 2208 01:45:50,720 --> 01:45:52,600 Speaker 6: Right right, it can change them at any point. 2209 01:45:52,880 --> 01:45:54,599 Speaker 5: Just yesterday and today was the first time I've. 2210 01:45:54,479 --> 01:45:55,840 Speaker 12: Been or anything. 2211 01:45:56,400 --> 01:45:58,040 Speaker 6: It's just Patriots. 2212 01:45:58,120 --> 01:46:01,000 Speaker 4: Quite confusing, I have to say, the last couple of days, 2213 01:46:01,000 --> 01:46:03,720 Speaker 4: I've been just trying to figure out where everybody is 2214 01:46:03,720 --> 01:46:06,960 Speaker 4: is situated. But the one thing that I also have noticed, 2215 01:46:07,479 --> 01:46:10,200 Speaker 4: we've talked a lot about Morgan Moses and like he's 2216 01:46:10,240 --> 01:46:14,200 Speaker 4: just going to bring up Morgan most so you do it. 2217 01:46:14,200 --> 01:46:17,519 Speaker 4: It's amazing, the same things my best friends. So yeah, 2218 01:46:17,560 --> 01:46:21,360 Speaker 4: Morgan Moses just seems like he's just like always in 2219 01:46:21,400 --> 01:46:25,080 Speaker 4: a good mood and like holding court and chatting up guys, 2220 01:46:25,320 --> 01:46:28,000 Speaker 4: whether even guys like out of his position group. It's 2221 01:46:28,000 --> 01:46:30,800 Speaker 4: not just the offensive lineman. He's like shouting across the 2222 01:46:30,840 --> 01:46:35,080 Speaker 4: locker room at kylevon Chase on like hey, Kse, what's up? 2223 01:46:35,160 --> 01:46:37,800 Speaker 4: You know, like things like that. And captains should be 2224 01:46:37,840 --> 01:46:41,760 Speaker 4: relatively soon, maybe sometime early next week. I would think 2225 01:46:41,800 --> 01:46:44,360 Speaker 4: some teams have already announced theirs and you just wonder 2226 01:46:44,360 --> 01:46:46,360 Speaker 4: if Morgan Moses is going to be We. 2227 01:46:46,200 --> 01:46:48,960 Speaker 1: Were talking about that funny that you know, just before 2228 01:46:49,000 --> 01:46:52,679 Speaker 1: you came, and we said, you know, make May logical. Yeah, 2229 01:46:52,720 --> 01:46:54,920 Speaker 1: Bobby Splane probably. 2230 01:46:54,880 --> 01:46:56,440 Speaker 3: That was my pick. Yeah, plain. 2231 01:46:57,960 --> 01:46:59,759 Speaker 1: So, and you're just thinking that for me, you're thinking 2232 01:46:59,760 --> 01:47:01,360 Speaker 1: more and Moses might. Yeah. 2233 01:47:01,439 --> 01:47:05,160 Speaker 4: I would say Morgan Moses may. Maybe Hunter Henry on 2234 01:47:05,200 --> 01:47:09,559 Speaker 4: the offensive side. Defensively, Spallaine makes a lot of sense. 2235 01:47:10,200 --> 01:47:11,280 Speaker 3: Uh, he's not. 2236 01:47:11,200 --> 01:47:14,200 Speaker 4: Like a raw raw leader, but like Harold Landry maybe 2237 01:47:14,240 --> 01:47:17,479 Speaker 4: just as a rabel guy up there as well. I 2238 01:47:17,479 --> 01:47:20,240 Speaker 4: don't know about the third one, but those guys and 2239 01:47:20,240 --> 01:47:23,160 Speaker 4: then I expect Schooler to be a special terms captain, 2240 01:47:24,160 --> 01:47:27,040 Speaker 4: but it will it'll be interesting to see you. Also, 2241 01:47:27,120 --> 01:47:31,559 Speaker 4: you know some things like locker positioning and things like that. 2242 01:47:32,040 --> 01:47:34,200 Speaker 4: There's always that one locker in the corner that's right 2243 01:47:34,240 --> 01:47:36,760 Speaker 4: by the door that's extremely important. 2244 01:47:36,680 --> 01:47:38,679 Speaker 1: And Patriots the sheriff. 2245 01:47:39,080 --> 01:47:41,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, so I think mcguinnis was there right for a while. 2246 01:47:42,400 --> 01:47:44,559 Speaker 4: I know my time High Tower used to be there, 2247 01:47:44,600 --> 01:47:48,559 Speaker 4: Bentley used to be there. That is now Harold Landry's locker. 2248 01:47:49,080 --> 01:47:53,160 Speaker 4: So if that means anything in terms of captains, maybe 2249 01:47:53,600 --> 01:47:56,320 Speaker 4: he's right there. In the corner on the way in. 2250 01:47:56,439 --> 01:47:58,439 Speaker 6: So I noticed the same thing I haven't did with Moses. 2251 01:47:58,439 --> 01:48:00,000 Speaker 6: I saw him just cutting it up with Kadan Waugh 2252 01:48:00,320 --> 01:48:03,000 Speaker 6: and just they've known each other now for a few months, 2253 01:48:03,000 --> 01:48:05,519 Speaker 6: but it's just you can see that he's clearly taken 2254 01:48:05,560 --> 01:48:07,400 Speaker 6: a leadership role with some of these young guys like 2255 01:48:07,439 --> 01:48:09,920 Speaker 6: Kiden Wallas, who kind of the last man standing from 2256 01:48:09,960 --> 01:48:10,240 Speaker 6: some of. 2257 01:48:10,160 --> 01:48:11,120 Speaker 5: The draft picks they've had. 2258 01:48:11,160 --> 01:48:13,000 Speaker 6: And yeah, I also say, I really like Morgans had 2259 01:48:13,000 --> 01:48:15,439 Speaker 6: a lay Miz shirt on, so like, good, good choice, 2260 01:48:16,240 --> 01:48:16,880 Speaker 6: love Miss. 2261 01:48:16,920 --> 01:48:19,200 Speaker 4: It just feels like some of the guys like Jared 2262 01:48:19,200 --> 01:48:21,760 Speaker 4: Wilson was sort of in his orbit as well, just 2263 01:48:21,800 --> 01:48:24,040 Speaker 4: like kind of like hanging out with Morgan Moses, Like 2264 01:48:24,080 --> 01:48:25,640 Speaker 4: I feel like a lot of the younger guys are 2265 01:48:25,680 --> 01:48:28,799 Speaker 4: already gravitated towards him and are just kind. 2266 01:48:28,640 --> 01:48:32,360 Speaker 1: Of So would you say wearing a lay Miz T shirt? 2267 01:48:32,640 --> 01:48:37,160 Speaker 1: Is uh a good sign that vrabel is building culture 2268 01:48:37,400 --> 01:48:39,080 Speaker 1: on the team. 2269 01:48:39,280 --> 01:48:40,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a culture in the culture. 2270 01:48:44,479 --> 01:48:46,439 Speaker 3: I'm still trying to figure out why it's a positive 2271 01:48:46,479 --> 01:48:47,479 Speaker 3: that he had a Lame Miss show. 2272 01:48:47,560 --> 01:48:48,280 Speaker 1: It's a great show. 2273 01:48:48,320 --> 01:48:52,559 Speaker 6: It's a great I like the show, like the show 2274 01:48:53,120 --> 01:48:56,040 Speaker 6: Cat's not a bunch of people dressed around as I'd 2275 01:48:56,040 --> 01:48:57,040 Speaker 6: be like this guy is now. 2276 01:48:56,960 --> 01:48:58,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you. I like. 2277 01:49:00,120 --> 01:49:00,920 Speaker 1: Playing in Boston. 2278 01:49:01,240 --> 01:49:04,000 Speaker 3: I just don't know why that's a plus because. 2279 01:49:03,720 --> 01:49:05,479 Speaker 5: I love wearing it. 2280 01:49:05,520 --> 01:49:06,559 Speaker 12: Do you think you've seen it? 2281 01:49:06,800 --> 01:49:08,320 Speaker 5: I was almost going to go. 2282 01:49:08,560 --> 01:49:13,960 Speaker 6: Him about it so great? 2283 01:49:14,479 --> 01:49:15,600 Speaker 3: I told you I saw it. 2284 01:49:16,080 --> 01:49:18,479 Speaker 6: Fine, I mean, that's crazy what happens, right, I mean, 2285 01:49:18,520 --> 01:49:20,080 Speaker 6: you know French Revolution. 2286 01:49:20,200 --> 01:49:25,120 Speaker 1: Let's go all right, eight five five pats five hundred 2287 01:49:25,320 --> 01:49:28,280 Speaker 1: before we get to the phones media, I. 2288 01:49:28,080 --> 01:49:30,600 Speaker 4: Was was your contingent, solid. 2289 01:49:30,400 --> 01:49:33,200 Speaker 6: Cares A lot of cameras, not a lot to shoot, Yeah, 2290 01:49:33,200 --> 01:49:33,800 Speaker 6: a lot of people. 2291 01:49:34,040 --> 01:49:37,240 Speaker 4: So we were we were waiting outside the in the 2292 01:49:37,280 --> 01:49:39,760 Speaker 4: tunnel to go into the locker room, and there was 2293 01:49:39,800 --> 01:49:42,320 Speaker 4: like a mad dash to go into the locker room 2294 01:49:42,439 --> 01:49:42,760 Speaker 4: and so. 2295 01:49:42,800 --> 01:49:45,519 Speaker 1: On, everyone like gets stuck at the door pretty much. 2296 01:49:45,600 --> 01:49:46,799 Speaker 12: It's like Black Friday. 2297 01:49:47,520 --> 01:49:50,240 Speaker 4: So somebody comes up to me and is like, what's 2298 01:49:50,240 --> 01:49:53,920 Speaker 4: the big deal, And I was like the veto and 2299 01:49:54,400 --> 01:49:59,800 Speaker 4: sure thing. I walk in and there's just fifty reporters 2300 01:49:59,880 --> 01:50:03,400 Speaker 4: or on Tommy Tavido's locker and and they're waiting for 2301 01:50:03,560 --> 01:50:05,679 Speaker 4: him there and he's walking in and I can see 2302 01:50:05,680 --> 01:50:07,880 Speaker 4: the smile on his face like oh there there they 2303 01:50:07,880 --> 01:50:10,679 Speaker 4: are waiting for it. So it was like a new player, 2304 01:50:11,160 --> 01:50:14,240 Speaker 4: new quarterback comes on and the media you know, right right, 2305 01:50:14,720 --> 01:50:16,000 Speaker 4: I'll grousing to get in there. 2306 01:50:16,040 --> 01:50:16,559 Speaker 3: It was great. 2307 01:50:16,600 --> 01:50:18,960 Speaker 5: He didn't have much time to Aaron. Aaron clamped it down. 2308 01:50:19,080 --> 01:50:19,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. 2309 01:50:19,320 --> 01:50:21,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like five questions. It's mostly all by 2310 01:50:21,720 --> 01:50:22,200 Speaker 4: Dan Road. 2311 01:50:23,040 --> 01:50:24,920 Speaker 6: Kyle Went was just like like laughing at him when 2312 01:50:24,920 --> 01:50:26,240 Speaker 6: he was walking, like, man, they're not here. 2313 01:50:26,160 --> 01:50:28,960 Speaker 5: For me, like get over there. But it was good. 2314 01:50:29,040 --> 01:50:29,720 Speaker 5: That was really it. 2315 01:50:29,760 --> 01:50:31,280 Speaker 6: I mean a lot of guys just getting in getting 2316 01:50:31,320 --> 01:50:32,519 Speaker 6: out for the. 2317 01:50:32,560 --> 01:50:33,360 Speaker 5: For the long weekend. 2318 01:50:33,400 --> 01:50:35,280 Speaker 6: They're off tomorrow, so a couple of days off for 2319 01:50:35,360 --> 01:50:36,440 Speaker 6: these guys before. 2320 01:50:36,880 --> 01:50:38,439 Speaker 5: All locked in on week one. 2321 01:50:38,840 --> 01:50:41,559 Speaker 1: Okay, next year, you'll be in a brand new locker 2322 01:50:41,640 --> 01:50:44,160 Speaker 1: room when you do this. It's gonna be a long 2323 01:50:44,240 --> 01:50:47,479 Speaker 1: walk though, do so a little uh insight golf car. 2324 01:50:47,680 --> 01:50:50,120 Speaker 1: I don't have any pictures and I can't tell you 2325 01:50:50,160 --> 01:50:55,200 Speaker 1: anything specific, but I know they debuted the new lockers 2326 01:50:55,400 --> 01:50:58,880 Speaker 1: that the guys will have privately so they could take 2327 01:50:58,880 --> 01:51:00,840 Speaker 1: a look at the lockers that I'll have next year. 2328 01:51:00,880 --> 01:51:02,960 Speaker 3: It's funny. I didn't even really think of that. Yeah, 2329 01:51:03,240 --> 01:51:05,519 Speaker 3: that they the locker room itself is. 2330 01:51:05,479 --> 01:51:07,599 Speaker 1: Going to be brand new way over well. 2331 01:51:07,520 --> 01:51:09,639 Speaker 5: I think, and they'll still come back here for games 2332 01:51:09,640 --> 01:51:09,920 Speaker 5: I guess. 2333 01:51:10,000 --> 01:51:13,600 Speaker 3: Well that's the Yeah, they'll still keep this locker. 2334 01:51:12,920 --> 01:51:15,400 Speaker 1: For game day, but during the week, all this open 2335 01:51:15,439 --> 01:51:18,800 Speaker 1: locker room availability will be at the new facility as 2336 01:51:18,840 --> 01:51:19,920 Speaker 1: well as the press cons. 2337 01:51:19,920 --> 01:51:23,000 Speaker 4: So that's interesting because another little thing, Uh, the lockers 2338 01:51:23,040 --> 01:51:23,720 Speaker 4: in the middle of the. 2339 01:51:23,640 --> 01:51:24,800 Speaker 3: Locker room are still there. 2340 01:51:24,840 --> 01:51:26,320 Speaker 1: Oh, they're still there, even though they took. 2341 01:51:26,320 --> 01:51:28,839 Speaker 4: Trim their roster down. So in the past, the practice 2342 01:51:28,840 --> 01:51:30,800 Speaker 4: squad guys would have the lockers in the back, and 2343 01:51:30,800 --> 01:51:33,519 Speaker 4: they some of them would have to share lockers. And 2344 01:51:33,600 --> 01:51:35,760 Speaker 4: so now maybe it's a rable thing that they're not 2345 01:51:35,920 --> 01:51:38,559 Speaker 4: doing that. They have the portable lockers in the middle. 2346 01:51:38,720 --> 01:51:41,280 Speaker 4: But I assume when they open the new facility they 2347 01:51:41,320 --> 01:51:45,320 Speaker 4: probably will have enough lockers to not need these portable ones. Potentially, 2348 01:51:45,600 --> 01:51:48,320 Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know they have those still, 2349 01:51:48,360 --> 01:51:49,400 Speaker 4: which I thought was interesting. 2350 01:51:50,080 --> 01:51:54,000 Speaker 1: All right, let's get to the phones. Boston Creams on 2351 01:51:54,040 --> 01:51:55,519 Speaker 1: the line, what's up, Boston Cream? 2352 01:51:58,160 --> 01:52:01,120 Speaker 28: Your brain on something particularly snarky side? 2353 01:52:01,400 --> 01:52:02,880 Speaker 3: Oh, I always say it for that. 2354 01:52:04,240 --> 01:52:07,120 Speaker 28: So in two thousand, Belichick had fifty one players on 2355 01:52:07,160 --> 01:52:09,160 Speaker 28: their roster, right, I'm not misremembering that. 2356 01:52:09,640 --> 01:52:11,680 Speaker 3: I believe that that was the case. Yeah, you got 2357 01:52:11,720 --> 01:52:14,439 Speaker 3: in trouble, but yeah, and he claimed they didn't feel 2358 01:52:14,439 --> 01:52:16,680 Speaker 3: like they had fifty three NFL players. 2359 01:52:17,400 --> 01:52:20,640 Speaker 28: So would would snarky Paul say that that was just 2360 01:52:20,680 --> 01:52:23,080 Speaker 28: the tactic to say he's got his guys and to 2361 01:52:23,080 --> 01:52:25,360 Speaker 28: show the NFL he can win with left. 2362 01:52:25,439 --> 01:52:29,040 Speaker 3: No, no, no, I think you legitimately felt like you 2363 01:52:29,080 --> 01:52:31,080 Speaker 3: didn't have fifty three players that he wanted to keep. 2364 01:52:31,120 --> 01:52:34,880 Speaker 3: I think that's you know, I'm not saying that he 2365 01:52:34,880 --> 01:52:37,840 Speaker 3: doesn't deserve a lot of credit for keeping four quarterbacks, 2366 01:52:38,320 --> 01:52:40,040 Speaker 3: but that's one of the reasons he was able to 2367 01:52:40,080 --> 01:52:42,800 Speaker 3: keep four quarterbacks, right, because he didn't feel like he 2368 01:52:42,840 --> 01:52:46,880 Speaker 3: had NFL players. I mean they signed guys like literally 2369 01:52:46,920 --> 01:52:49,960 Speaker 3: off the street that I think Sally Aseayah started like 2370 01:52:50,000 --> 01:52:54,080 Speaker 3: the like off the street. Yeah, like they didn't. They 2371 01:52:54,439 --> 01:52:55,680 Speaker 3: wasn't a very talented. 2372 01:52:55,560 --> 01:52:57,880 Speaker 1: If you if you're looking for some type of like 2373 01:52:58,040 --> 01:53:02,360 Speaker 1: motive behind not keeping full roster at first, if anything, 2374 01:53:02,400 --> 01:53:04,720 Speaker 1: you might say he was just telling his owner and 2375 01:53:04,840 --> 01:53:07,320 Speaker 1: maybe everybody else, I don't have a good. 2376 01:53:07,240 --> 01:53:10,800 Speaker 3: Roster and they at the time, and I know this 2377 01:53:10,840 --> 01:53:13,400 Speaker 3: is gonna come sound really hypocritical coming from me, But 2378 01:53:13,439 --> 01:53:16,080 Speaker 3: at the time, the salary cap was a thing, and 2379 01:53:16,400 --> 01:53:20,600 Speaker 3: they had a tough situation. They had some veterans like 2380 01:53:20,800 --> 01:53:25,960 Speaker 3: Bruce Armstrong and Chris Slade, Max Lane I think was 2381 01:53:26,000 --> 01:53:30,760 Speaker 3: still a round Aguinness. Those guys were kind of expensive. 2382 01:53:31,280 --> 01:53:34,280 Speaker 3: Ben Kots would be another one, Mike, and they were, 2383 01:53:34,560 --> 01:53:37,519 Speaker 3: you know, certainly on the back nine, and they needed 2384 01:53:37,520 --> 01:53:39,840 Speaker 3: to sort of they rid the roster of some of 2385 01:53:39,880 --> 01:53:43,040 Speaker 3: those guys. Some of them stayed, but most of them went. 2386 01:53:43,320 --> 01:53:46,000 Speaker 3: And then he still he kept the nucleus of talent 2387 01:53:46,040 --> 01:53:48,679 Speaker 3: that he had, which was excellent, you know, the tie Laws, 2388 01:53:48,680 --> 01:53:53,080 Speaker 3: Teddy Bruski's lawyer, Malloy, ted Johnson, you know, William mc ginnis. 2389 01:53:53,120 --> 01:53:54,600 Speaker 3: They still had a lot of good players and he 2390 01:53:54,680 --> 01:53:57,680 Speaker 3: kept them. But I think it was just kind of 2391 01:53:57,680 --> 01:54:00,320 Speaker 3: reworking the roster and trying to figure out how he 2392 01:54:00,360 --> 01:54:01,439 Speaker 3: was going to and he didn't have a lot of 2393 01:54:01,520 --> 01:54:04,280 Speaker 3: room to replace those guys because of the salary cap 2394 01:54:04,360 --> 01:54:07,040 Speaker 3: at the time was much more restrictive. 2395 01:54:07,920 --> 01:54:09,599 Speaker 1: H James is in North Carolina. 2396 01:54:09,720 --> 01:54:16,960 Speaker 3: Hey, James, James, Big game, James Illo, James, No, it's 2397 01:54:17,000 --> 01:54:17,720 Speaker 3: not James. 2398 01:54:18,479 --> 01:54:22,000 Speaker 1: What's up the stadium? 2399 01:54:25,160 --> 01:54:25,519 Speaker 9: Stadium. 2400 01:54:26,600 --> 01:54:27,360 Speaker 3: Nicely done. 2401 01:54:27,840 --> 01:54:32,360 Speaker 1: James is not there, but neither is Ken Flanders. Uh 2402 01:54:32,720 --> 01:54:38,840 Speaker 1: all right. I said, if there's anybody listening from the 2403 01:54:38,840 --> 01:54:41,800 Speaker 1: pro Shop that wants to, you know, call in about 2404 01:54:42,240 --> 01:54:44,680 Speaker 1: some of the sideline stuff, you can And we used 2405 01:54:44,680 --> 01:54:49,560 Speaker 1: to do that. We used to call Ken Flanner random. 2406 01:54:48,440 --> 01:54:50,680 Speaker 3: Shop at the time, and he's in the middle of 2407 01:54:50,680 --> 01:54:52,720 Speaker 3: the pro He was never he was never at his desk, 2408 01:54:52,720 --> 01:54:53,919 Speaker 3: and we always got the voicemail. 2409 01:54:54,120 --> 01:54:56,400 Speaker 11: So then we got into a bit about calling people 2410 01:54:56,440 --> 01:54:58,160 Speaker 11: while we're on the show here that we'll work with. 2411 01:54:58,240 --> 01:55:00,320 Speaker 1: So who could we call? They would I don't know. 2412 01:55:00,840 --> 01:55:01,640 Speaker 12: We thought Aaron. 2413 01:55:02,120 --> 01:55:05,000 Speaker 3: I was literally just first one. 2414 01:55:06,240 --> 01:55:08,640 Speaker 6: Aaron's not going to pick up Tuesday, let's do it. 2415 01:55:09,160 --> 01:55:09,840 Speaker 3: Who says now? 2416 01:55:10,680 --> 01:55:12,560 Speaker 1: But those PR guys there you always pick up. 2417 01:55:13,160 --> 01:55:15,040 Speaker 6: Aaron will be up in the middle of the like, 2418 01:55:15,240 --> 01:55:17,320 Speaker 6: except today when literally, Mike you already walked in like 2419 01:55:17,320 --> 01:55:18,840 Speaker 6: five minutes, laid into the locker room and he's like, 2420 01:55:18,840 --> 01:55:20,160 Speaker 6: how long you guys been open? I was stuck at 2421 01:55:20,160 --> 01:55:21,320 Speaker 6: the gate. I was trying to call Aaron. 2422 01:55:21,360 --> 01:55:23,640 Speaker 3: He would pick up, and then Aaron came running over. 2423 01:55:23,720 --> 01:55:24,880 Speaker 1: He's like, I don't have my phone. 2424 01:55:26,480 --> 01:55:27,400 Speaker 12: He must have lost it. 2425 01:55:28,800 --> 01:55:36,560 Speaker 1: Guy without a phone. Uh, Rick Richard, new Haven, Connecticut 2426 01:55:37,160 --> 01:55:41,360 Speaker 1: about the rivalries Jersey. Uh, this is absolutely a cape 2427 01:55:41,400 --> 01:55:44,760 Speaker 1: Cod color. It looks like every old Shaker style siding 2428 01:55:44,840 --> 01:55:47,800 Speaker 1: on a cute little cape Cod house. You see it everywhere. 2429 01:55:47,840 --> 01:55:52,800 Speaker 1: It looks like a nor'easter. I hope then job because 2430 01:55:52,800 --> 01:55:54,160 Speaker 1: that's the look they were going for. 2431 01:55:54,200 --> 01:55:55,880 Speaker 6: It was good to me that was headed down to 2432 01:55:55,920 --> 01:55:58,480 Speaker 6: the cape Cod tonight, Fred cape Cod. 2433 01:55:59,000 --> 01:56:01,360 Speaker 1: You know you've got a big vacation to day tomorrow 2434 01:56:01,440 --> 01:56:03,200 Speaker 1: and this is it, right, this is it. 2435 01:56:03,360 --> 01:56:04,800 Speaker 5: This is the favorite time of year on the cab. 2436 01:56:05,440 --> 01:56:06,160 Speaker 5: Feel the same way. 2437 01:56:06,160 --> 01:56:08,480 Speaker 6: But like my mom lives down there now summer, once 2438 01:56:08,560 --> 01:56:10,840 Speaker 6: the tourists all leave and it thins out and the 2439 01:56:10,840 --> 01:56:11,840 Speaker 6: weather is still pretty nice. 2440 01:56:11,840 --> 01:56:14,560 Speaker 1: It's just well next week. It's it's that two weeks 2441 01:56:14,600 --> 01:56:15,360 Speaker 1: after Labor Day. 2442 01:56:15,400 --> 01:56:17,520 Speaker 3: For me, I think this weekend would be busy down there. 2443 01:56:17,560 --> 01:56:20,520 Speaker 5: It Labor Day weekend. Yeah, but I'm just saying, it's. 2444 01:56:20,400 --> 01:56:22,160 Speaker 12: Uh, back in school. 2445 01:56:22,320 --> 01:56:25,760 Speaker 3: Everybody's off the island though. I'll tell you that on Monday, 2446 01:56:26,000 --> 01:56:28,640 Speaker 3: late Monday, it's like the rush of starting school before 2447 01:56:28,760 --> 01:56:29,280 Speaker 3: Labor Day. 2448 01:56:29,360 --> 01:56:30,520 Speaker 5: I don't that's weird. 2449 01:56:30,640 --> 01:56:32,320 Speaker 6: We got to bang out Wednesday and Thursday, because a 2450 01:56:32,400 --> 01:56:33,360 Speaker 6: two days of school. 2451 01:56:33,560 --> 01:56:35,160 Speaker 3: Their off weeks ridiculous. 2452 01:56:35,360 --> 01:56:37,000 Speaker 6: But I kind of like get like a couple of 2453 01:56:37,440 --> 01:56:38,920 Speaker 6: dry run days and then you get back. 2454 01:56:38,760 --> 01:56:41,400 Speaker 3: So it helps for the days that they miss for 2455 01:56:41,480 --> 01:56:43,800 Speaker 3: the weather. You know, it gives you a couple of 2456 01:56:43,840 --> 01:56:45,400 Speaker 3: extra days that you got in June. 2457 01:56:45,520 --> 01:56:48,560 Speaker 4: Right, Well, they're soft about the weather now too, oh god. 2458 01:56:49,120 --> 01:56:54,240 Speaker 1: Too cold. They canceled school. Yeah, but this August, like, 2459 01:56:54,480 --> 01:56:58,760 Speaker 1: at least here in Massachuset, one of the best weather August. 2460 01:56:58,840 --> 01:57:02,120 Speaker 6: After all that thirteen fourteenth Street Saturdays with rain in 2461 01:57:02,160 --> 01:57:03,760 Speaker 6: the spring, and it. 2462 01:57:03,680 --> 01:57:05,480 Speaker 11: Was really hot in July, but July was beautiful too. 2463 01:57:05,600 --> 01:57:07,200 Speaker 11: We didn't get a lot of rain after June. 2464 01:57:07,240 --> 01:57:09,680 Speaker 1: Well, July we had those oppressive heat days. 2465 01:57:11,920 --> 01:57:17,040 Speaker 4: Those really great training camp weather. We did have great 2466 01:57:17,080 --> 01:57:20,040 Speaker 4: weather and really not a ton of rain, not not 2467 01:57:20,280 --> 01:57:23,440 Speaker 4: overly hot. A couple of hot days, but nothing crazy. 2468 01:57:23,480 --> 01:57:26,560 Speaker 4: But thet no rain is huge. I mean that's big. 2469 01:57:26,640 --> 01:57:28,320 Speaker 3: And when it has rained, it seems like it's like 2470 01:57:28,400 --> 01:57:31,440 Speaker 3: overnight or really heavy for a very short period of time, 2471 01:57:31,480 --> 01:57:33,680 Speaker 3: which is good because it gause you know, you know, 2472 01:57:34,000 --> 01:57:36,080 Speaker 3: for you environmentalists, what you need. 2473 01:57:36,520 --> 01:57:42,360 Speaker 6: You see water heat. 2474 01:57:41,720 --> 01:57:44,320 Speaker 1: Austin in the woods of Oklahoma rights In just sold 2475 01:57:44,320 --> 01:57:46,400 Speaker 1: my house and maxed out my credit card to bet 2476 01:57:46,480 --> 01:57:49,640 Speaker 1: Chisholm to win Offensive Rookie of the Year, Offensive Player 2477 01:57:49,680 --> 01:57:52,040 Speaker 1: of the Year and m v P. Now I'm living 2478 01:57:52,040 --> 01:57:53,680 Speaker 1: in a tent, but it will be all worth it 2479 01:57:53,720 --> 01:57:56,360 Speaker 1: in five months. My wife wants a divorce, but you 2480 01:57:56,400 --> 01:57:57,880 Speaker 1: can't find me in the woods, so I'm in the 2481 01:57:57,920 --> 01:58:00,680 Speaker 1: clear for now. Paul, I'm buying you a mid trim 2482 01:58:00,800 --> 01:58:03,160 Speaker 1: Toyota Corolla once my money hits my account. 2483 01:58:03,880 --> 01:58:05,520 Speaker 3: Something to root for it ps. 2484 01:58:05,560 --> 01:58:07,520 Speaker 1: The new uniforms are dope, and I'd love to see 2485 01:58:07,560 --> 01:58:08,680 Speaker 1: them more than once a year. 2486 01:58:09,440 --> 01:58:11,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's that's the thing, that it is only once 2487 01:58:11,360 --> 01:58:11,720 Speaker 6: a year. 2488 01:58:12,840 --> 01:58:15,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. Someone said that he heard it was twice this year. 2489 01:58:15,200 --> 01:58:16,600 Speaker 1: It isn't. It's just one game. 2490 01:58:16,880 --> 01:58:19,360 Speaker 3: I said that it's just once. 2491 01:58:19,440 --> 01:58:23,600 Speaker 6: Everyone clarify a Yeah, you see them once and that's it. 2492 01:58:23,680 --> 01:58:25,960 Speaker 4: I might make those bets for a Traveon Henderson. I 2493 01:58:26,000 --> 01:58:30,600 Speaker 4: wouldn't make that bet for chosen Offensive Rookie. 2494 01:58:30,360 --> 01:58:30,760 Speaker 1: Of the Year. 2495 01:58:32,120 --> 01:58:34,160 Speaker 3: Make it happen if if we could, of course, you know, 2496 01:58:34,840 --> 01:58:37,880 Speaker 3: you know, that would be uh. I think that would 2497 01:58:37,920 --> 01:58:40,360 Speaker 3: be a good pick. Nice little dark horse. 2498 01:58:40,520 --> 01:58:42,160 Speaker 5: There's how much of an impact would that really make 2499 01:58:42,200 --> 01:58:42,720 Speaker 5: for this offense? 2500 01:58:42,760 --> 01:58:44,600 Speaker 6: So, I mean, because we kind of downplay not to 2501 01:58:44,600 --> 01:58:47,000 Speaker 6: get into this with two minutes left, but like, realistically, 2502 01:58:47,080 --> 01:58:50,160 Speaker 6: like Trevon Henderson is offensive Rookie of the year, is is 2503 01:58:50,200 --> 01:58:52,960 Speaker 6: that enough to get the Patriots into the playoffs or 2504 01:58:53,040 --> 01:58:53,920 Speaker 6: does there have to be. 2505 01:58:54,320 --> 01:58:58,800 Speaker 3: I think a couple more than. 2506 01:58:57,240 --> 01:58:59,440 Speaker 4: Garrett Wilson won the offensive Player of the Year for 2507 01:58:59,480 --> 01:59:01,960 Speaker 4: the Jets couple of years ago, and Sasso one defensive 2508 01:59:01,960 --> 01:59:04,600 Speaker 4: player Rookie of the year and they didn't make the playoffs. 2509 01:59:05,040 --> 01:59:06,920 Speaker 1: All right, one more call then we're gonna call it 2510 01:59:06,960 --> 01:59:11,280 Speaker 1: a show. Terrence is in southern California. What's up, Terrence? 2511 01:59:12,960 --> 01:59:13,160 Speaker 10: Fred? 2512 01:59:13,160 --> 01:59:13,600 Speaker 11: How you doing? 2513 01:59:13,640 --> 01:59:14,040 Speaker 18: Hey, Paul? 2514 01:59:14,080 --> 01:59:16,040 Speaker 21: I just wanted to call in and ask how your 2515 01:59:16,080 --> 01:59:18,760 Speaker 21: son did at Hell week and what company he's in, 2516 01:59:18,960 --> 01:59:21,600 Speaker 21: because my son's a junior there and maybe he can 2517 01:59:21,640 --> 01:59:24,080 Speaker 21: look out for him. 2518 01:59:24,200 --> 01:59:26,520 Speaker 3: Well, I don't know. I don't think if he's a junior, 2519 01:59:26,560 --> 01:59:28,160 Speaker 3: is he he's not allowed to be friends? Right? 2520 01:59:29,200 --> 01:59:32,800 Speaker 1: And not how it works. 2521 01:59:32,840 --> 01:59:35,760 Speaker 3: He's fifth Battalion, Victor Company. 2522 01:59:37,520 --> 01:59:41,400 Speaker 1: That's tough, sounds, that goes hard, tip of the spear. 2523 01:59:44,240 --> 01:59:47,320 Speaker 3: I appreciated, Terrence. Thank you for chiming in that's uh, yeah, 2524 01:59:47,320 --> 01:59:49,080 Speaker 3: it's a lot. We're just kind of learning about it. 2525 01:59:49,120 --> 01:59:51,160 Speaker 3: I don't my wife and I don't really have any 2526 01:59:51,480 --> 01:59:55,600 Speaker 3: military background, so just kind of taking it all in. 2527 01:59:55,720 --> 01:59:58,320 Speaker 3: It was nice to hear from him over the weekend 2528 01:59:58,360 --> 02:00:00,920 Speaker 3: after they take their phones away for the first like 2529 02:00:01,000 --> 02:00:03,960 Speaker 3: eight or nine days. It was nice to hear from him. 2530 02:00:03,960 --> 02:00:04,120 Speaker 4: Man. 2531 02:00:04,200 --> 02:00:06,680 Speaker 3: I think he's doing okay. So far, so far, so good. 2532 02:00:07,000 --> 02:00:08,800 Speaker 5: All right, any timed in on the reform too. 2533 02:00:08,920 --> 02:00:10,760 Speaker 1: Thanks for calling in, Terrence. 2534 02:00:11,280 --> 02:00:13,360 Speaker 3: Thank you, Terrence. I appreciate it. 2535 02:00:13,400 --> 02:00:16,920 Speaker 1: That's cool, very good. All right. That's gonna be it 2536 02:00:16,960 --> 02:00:22,360 Speaker 1: for this edition of Patriots Unfiltered. Teams off for the weekend, 2537 02:00:22,520 --> 02:00:26,760 Speaker 1: so are we our last one until next week. Next 2538 02:00:26,800 --> 02:00:29,440 Speaker 1: week is Raiders week all week, so we're gonna get 2539 02:00:29,520 --> 02:00:33,920 Speaker 1: right into it starting on Tuesday. We'll see you next Tuesday. 2540 02:00:35,320 --> 02:00:37,400 Speaker 3: Hey, this is Evan. Thanks for tuning into the show. 2541 02:00:37,440 --> 02:00:39,440 Speaker 27: If you really want to help us, make sure to 2542 02:00:39,640 --> 02:00:43,080 Speaker 27: like us on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get 2543 02:00:43,120 --> 02:00:45,440 Speaker 27: your podcasts. Also make sure to fall on the New 2544 02:00:45,480 --> 02:00:47,920 Speaker 27: England Patriots YouTube channel see this show and. 2545 02:00:47,880 --> 02:00:49,720 Speaker 4: Everything else we do here at the Patriots. 2546 02:00:49,880 --> 02:00:50,400 Speaker 1: Thanks a long