WEBVTT - Red Flag

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<v Speaker 1>Cool Zone Media. On March thirty first, twenty twenty five,

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<v Speaker 1>FBI agents in Wisconsin received records in response to a

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<v Speaker 1>search warrant. TikTok had turned over a mountain of data

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<v Speaker 1>that would take weeks to comb through. The owner of

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<v Speaker 1>the accounts in question had been dead for months, which

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<v Speaker 1>you might assume would mean there was no real reason

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<v Speaker 1>to rush. The crime they were investigating was already solved

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<v Speaker 1>and there was no perpetrator to prosecute. But in the

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<v Speaker 1>time that it had taken to get these records, they'd

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<v Speaker 1>already missed something big. The digital footprint of a school

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<v Speaker 1>shooter is always full of red flags, that's no surprise.

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<v Speaker 1>But these red flags weren't just missed warning signs of

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<v Speaker 1>a shooting that it was too late to prevent. By

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<v Speaker 1>the time that search warrant was served, another shooting had

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<v Speaker 1>already happened, and they were worried it wouldn't be the last.

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<v Speaker 1>As they began sifting through the records, they found exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what they were looking for, Another mass shooter in the making.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Molly Conger, and this is weird. Little guys, this

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<v Speaker 1>story is awful in every way. It's complicated. There are

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<v Speaker 1>too many moving parts and sealed documents and ongoing court

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<v Speaker 1>cases and investigations that will never yield any court records.

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<v Speaker 1>Because the perpetrator is dead. It's impossible to really nail

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<v Speaker 1>down the truth in any way that I'm at all

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<v Speaker 1>comfortable with. I'm not going to get to the bottom

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<v Speaker 1>of anything here, and it's uglier than usual. Even I am,

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<v Speaker 1>for better or worse, pretty good at tuning out my

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<v Speaker 1>own emotions when I read and write about terrible things.

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<v Speaker 1>I try not to let my heart get hard, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>but when I'm working, I'm working not feeling. It's easier

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<v Speaker 1>that way, and I've had a lot of practice at it.

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<v Speaker 1>I can get through the day reading page after page

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<v Speaker 1>of old neo Nazi forum posts without letting it in.

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<v Speaker 1>I close my laptop at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>have dinner, watch a little TV, and I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>about it when I'm lying in bed at night. That's

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<v Speaker 1>not working This week, the story of this tangled network

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<v Speaker 1>of online mass murder enthusiasts contained some of the darkest

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<v Speaker 1>shit I've ever seen, But it is unfortunately time to

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<v Speaker 1>update the story of Terogram. I did an episode way

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<v Speaker 1>back in September of twenty twenty four. Very early on

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<v Speaker 1>in the show's existence, an episode called White Terror. When

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<v Speaker 1>I wrote that episode, the FBI had recently arrested Matthew

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<v Speaker 1>Allison and Dallas Humber, two of the leaders of the

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<v Speaker 1>online community known as the Terogram Collective. What had started

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<v Speaker 1>out as a sort of loose collection of informal online

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<v Speaker 1>spaces started to coalesce around twenty nineteen into something more organized.

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<v Speaker 1>By twenty twenty two, the Tterogram Collective was pushing out

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<v Speaker 1>slick propaganda manuals for acts of terrorism. Their online chats

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<v Speaker 1>were centered on the idea of militant accelerationism, a violent

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<v Speaker 1>worldview bent on forcing the collapse of civilization as we

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<v Speaker 1>know it, triggering a race war that ends with the

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<v Speaker 1>creation of a white ethno state. As part of their

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<v Speaker 1>plan to bring all of that about, Trogram encourages mass

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<v Speaker 1>shootings by celebrating the acts of prior shooters, elevating them

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<v Speaker 1>to a kind of sainthood. Saint Tarrant, Saint Rufe, Saint McVay,

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<v Speaker 1>Saint Bravic, canonizing the men who would bathe the world

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<v Speaker 1>in blood. There are scores of saints, depending on who

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<v Speaker 1>you ask, but those four are always fan favorites. Brenton

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<v Speaker 1>Arrant killed fifty one people at mosques in christ Church,

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<v Speaker 1>New Zealand in twenty nineteen. Dylan Rufe killed nine people

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<v Speaker 1>in a black church in South Carolina in twenty fifteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Jamith McVeigh killed one hundred and sixty nine people when

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<v Speaker 1>he blew up a federal building in Oklahoma City in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety five. Unders Brave It killed seventy seven people

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<v Speaker 1>in Norway in twenty eleven, most of whom were teenagers

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<v Speaker 1>at a summer camp. These saints aren't just revered figures

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<v Speaker 1>though their role models. The goal of Saint culture is

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<v Speaker 1>not just to talk about what they did. It's to

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<v Speaker 1>encourage others to join their ranks. Alison and Humber are

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<v Speaker 1>still in custody with no date set for trial. Their

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<v Speaker 1>cases haven't really budged at all. None of the updates

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<v Speaker 1>to this story come from documents produced in those cases.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish they had, because the updates we do have

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<v Speaker 1>are more attacks, more murders linked to the Terogram collective.

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<v Speaker 1>There have been a few more arrests, a few more

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<v Speaker 1>foil plots, and a few more manifestos. There are more

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<v Speaker 1>than a few episodes worth of updates to this story.

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<v Speaker 1>Adamoffin founder Brandon Russell and his girlfriend Sarah Beth Clendaniel

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<v Speaker 1>have both been convicted for conspiring to blow up the

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<v Speaker 1>Power Grind in Baltimore. A man in Tennessee was arrested

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<v Speaker 1>mere moments before launching a drone armed with a bomb

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<v Speaker 1>that he planned to drop on an electrical substation. A

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<v Speaker 1>teenager in Australia tried to stab a member of parliament.

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<v Speaker 1>A man in Washington was convicted for possession of a

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<v Speaker 1>machine gun. A man in Pennsylvania was arrested for possession

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<v Speaker 1>of child sexual abuse material. A teenager in Wisconsin murdered

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<v Speaker 1>both of his parents because he needed to empty their

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<v Speaker 1>bank accounts to fund his plan to overthrow the government.

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<v Speaker 1>Both the United States and Australia have joined the United

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<v Speaker 1>Kingdom in officially designating Terogram as an international terrorist organization,

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<v Speaker 1>and just this month, the FBI arrested a man in

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<v Speaker 1>California who they allege was the primary author of the List,

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<v Speaker 1>which was trogram's collection of personal information about people they

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<v Speaker 1>deemed high value assassination targets. All of these crimes are connected,

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<v Speaker 1>not directly necessarily, these people didn't all know each other.

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<v Speaker 1>But they all consumed the same content, they traveled in

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<v Speaker 1>the same digital spaces, they had friends in common, and

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<v Speaker 1>they all wanted to destroy society as we know it.

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<v Speaker 1>Many of those are stories that we'll get to eventually.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been kicking the can on writing about Brandon Russell

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<v Speaker 1>all year, but some of the others will take time

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<v Speaker 1>to wind their way through the courts to some kind

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<v Speaker 1>of conclusion. No, today we're talking about Damien Blade Allen.

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of his story isn't quite over yet either, but

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<v Speaker 1>to start telling it, we have to start so far

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<v Speaker 1>before the beginning that we might as well get a

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<v Speaker 1>head start. Damian Allen was arrested in April of twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five in Palm Beach County, Florida. He's been charged

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<v Speaker 1>with written threats to conduct a mass shooting, unlawful use

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<v Speaker 1>of a badge, and unlawful use of a two way

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<v Speaker 1>communications device. That third charge is something you see pretty

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<v Speaker 1>often in felony cases in Florida. It just means you

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<v Speaker 1>used a phone or a computer to facilitate the commission

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<v Speaker 1>of a felony. It kind of just feels like a

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<v Speaker 1>way to add five years to any underlying felony, But

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<v Speaker 1>Florida's criminal code isn't the point here. The point is

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<v Speaker 1>Damian Allen didn't actually shoot anyone, He just talked about it.

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<v Speaker 1>But to understand how he ended up facing the charges,

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<v Speaker 1>we have to talk about who he was talking to

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<v Speaker 1>when he made those plans, and we have to go

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<v Speaker 1>back in time to talk about several people who did

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<v Speaker 1>carry out their attacks. Urai Krajik in Slovakia, Arda Kasukia

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<v Speaker 1>Team in Turkey, Samantha Upnow in Wisconsin, and Solomon Henderson

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<v Speaker 1>in Tennessee. Uri Krazik and Arta Kasukia Team we've already

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<v Speaker 1>talked about in the Tarogram episode last fall. Krajik was

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<v Speaker 1>Tterogram's first saint. He was the first member of the

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<v Speaker 1>group to heed the call and add himself to the pantheon.

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<v Speaker 1>He was in direct personal contact with the group's leaders

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<v Speaker 1>for months leading up to his death in October of

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty two. He shot himself after killing two people

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<v Speaker 1>outside of a gay bar and brought us lava, and

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<v Speaker 1>after he died, Dallas humber Broke orded an audiobook of

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<v Speaker 1>his manifesto. Arda Kosukia Team was discussed briefly in that

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<v Speaker 1>episode two. In August of twenty twenty four, the eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>year old stabbed five men outside of a mosque in

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<v Speaker 1>his Kishehir, Turkey. Thankfully, none of his victims died and

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<v Speaker 1>he was taken into custody alive. His manifesto explicitly credits

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<v Speaker 1>several Tarogram publications for inspiring the attack, and Terogram channels

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<v Speaker 1>praised the attack. Writing in one Terogram chat, Dallas Humber

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<v Speaker 1>noted that despite his obvious commitment to the cause, he

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't be added to the list of saints worshiped by

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<v Speaker 1>the group because he wasn't white. When Terogram leaders Dallas

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<v Speaker 1>Humber and Matthew Allison were indicted a month after Kosukia

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<v Speaker 1>Team's attack, his attack was one of three acts of

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<v Speaker 1>terror that the Department of Justice alleged they can concretely

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<v Speaker 1>connect the pair two, charging them with directly soliciting it.

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<v Speaker 1>Another of those three attacks was the brodest Lava shooting.

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<v Speaker 1>After arta Kosukia Team was arrested, he told Turkish authorities

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<v Speaker 1>that he'd been assisted and encouraged throughout the process of

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<v Speaker 1>planning the attack over a period of months by someone

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<v Speaker 1>he'd met online. He said they communicated in English, and

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<v Speaker 1>he believed this person was a teenager living in Eastern Europe.

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<v Speaker 1>His online friend used the name fyotulf Hansen, which you

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<v Speaker 1>might think sounds like a clue, but it really isn't.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just another homage to the mass shooters these young

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<v Speaker 1>men idolize. Fiotulf Hansen was from twenty seventeen until twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five the legal name of Norwegian mass murderer under Bravik.

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<v Speaker 1>Bravik has since made yet another legal name change, and

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<v Speaker 1>he is now going by far Skalde Grimmer RAUSKYI older

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<v Speaker 1>of north Riki. I haven't pronounced that right, and that's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>It is apparently an entirely made up name, loosely based

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<v Speaker 1>in Old Norse. This Hanson, though the one chatting with

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<v Speaker 1>Arta Kaskia team about how to most sufficiently carry out

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<v Speaker 1>mass murders, was not actually Andres Bravic. Obviously, he's just

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<v Speaker 1>a fan. And on the day of Kasukia team's attack

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<v Speaker 1>August twelfth, twenty twenty four, mis Hanson served as a

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<v Speaker 1>sort of public relations agent for these attempted murders. Kasuka

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<v Speaker 1>team had prepared an array of photographs and documents ahead

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<v Speaker 1>of time, to be shared online, which Hanson appears to

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<v Speaker 1>have spent the day doing on a variety of platforms.

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<v Speaker 1>Marc Andre Argentino, a senior research fellow at the Accelerationism

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<v Speaker 1>Research Consortium, notes this trend. In this and similar attacks,

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<v Speaker 1>it a sort of press kit. Kazukia team had taken

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<v Speaker 1>selfies posing in his gear and photos of all the

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<v Speaker 1>gear laid out neatly on the floor. He uploaded his

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<v Speaker 1>own manifesto, along with more than a dozen other documents,

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<v Speaker 1>including meinkomf, James Mason's Siege, several Terogram publications, and a

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<v Speaker 1>publication by a group called the Maniac Murder Cult. Also

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<v Speaker 1>in that folder were the manifestos of several mass shooters

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<v Speaker 1>who inspired him, including the one that Jurai Krazik had

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<v Speaker 1>sent directly to the leaders of the Tterogram collective before

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<v Speaker 1>he murdered two people and brought us lava in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two. But once Kazukia Team was out there trying

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<v Speaker 1>to commit mass murder, he couldn't really be posting. He

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't be checking his phone. That was Hanson's job. He

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<v Speaker 1>created a Twitter account to post links to the live

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<v Speaker 1>stream in the files. He posted links and images on

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<v Speaker 1>forums devoted to gore videos, and around the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>someone probably Hanson, posted those same links on four Chan,

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<v Speaker 1>and he also invited a small handful of users to

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<v Speaker 1>a private group chat on Telegram. Before the attack began,

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<v Speaker 1>Kasuki Team sent Hanson a message on Telegram announcing that

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<v Speaker 1>it would begin soon. The message had the links to

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<v Speaker 1>the photos, the documents, the manifesto, and the live stream.

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<v Speaker 1>Hanson forwarded that message to the private chat just before

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<v Speaker 1>the stream went live. There were nine people in the chat.

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<v Speaker 1>They dissembled ahead of time with fore knowledge of this

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<v Speaker 1>impending attack. This was a watch party. The stream was short.

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<v Speaker 1>The longest version of the video that I could find,

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<v Speaker 1>which does seem to be the entirety of the original stream,

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<v Speaker 1>is less than three minutes long. The opening frames show

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<v Speaker 1>the attacker's face. He's staring directly into the camera. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like he's looking at you. He's wearing a helmet, goggles,

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<v Speaker 1>and a half faced skull mask, and the shot lingers

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<v Speaker 1>there on his face for a little too long before

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<v Speaker 1>he affixes the camera to the front of his tactical

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<v Speaker 1>vest and starts walking outside of the mosque. A dozen

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<v Speaker 1>or so older men were sitting in a cafe area

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<v Speaker 1>after evening prayer, and they seem to ignore this oddly

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<v Speaker 1>dressed teenager until he approaches a man from behind and

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<v Speaker 1>stabs him. But then, instead of attacking any of the

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<v Speaker 1>other men in the immediate area, most of whom are

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<v Speaker 1>in their seventies and sitting down, he takes off running.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an odd scene. Remember, he's wearing safety goggles, a helmet,

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<v Speaker 1>a skull mask, a black tactical vest, and camo pants.

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<v Speaker 1>He looks weird and he's just stabbed a man, but

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<v Speaker 1>the reactions from most of the people around him are

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<v Speaker 1>pretty subdued. He lunges towards another man, who cries out

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<v Speaker 1>and does try to run from him, but an older

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<v Speaker 1>man smoking a cigarette a few feet away watches this

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<v Speaker 1>happen and just says, what are you doing in a

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<v Speaker 1>tone that I can only describe as disinterested. As Kosuki

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<v Speaker 1>team runs off down the street and through a nearby park,

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<v Speaker 1>he stabs several more people at random. An old man

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<v Speaker 1>on a bench in the park yells at him to

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<v Speaker 1>go away, but a lot of the people don't react

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<v Speaker 1>to him at all. He was tackled by police less

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<v Speaker 1>than a minute and a half after the attack began,

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<v Speaker 1>and the video ends with the camera pointed up towards

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<v Speaker 1>the sky with faces peering down at it. He's lying

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<v Speaker 1>on his back in a parking lot, surrounded by a

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<v Speaker 1>handful of police officers and a crowd of curious onlookers.

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<v Speaker 1>In the chat, the group was disappointed he had stabbed

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<v Speaker 1>several people, but in the video you can't actually see much.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no blood, there's barely any screaming, there's no corpses.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody died. It was just a lot of shaky footage

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<v Speaker 1>of the path in a park and audio of a

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<v Speaker 1>nervous teen breathing heavily. A user known only as Nitro

0:17:58.440 --> 0:18:05.000
<v Speaker 1>wrote a for effort. Hansen said at least he did it,

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<v Speaker 1>and a third user replied credit for that at least.

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<v Speaker 1>That third message posted in that invite only private watch

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<v Speaker 1>party for what they hoped would be a mass murderer,

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<v Speaker 1>was written by a fourteen year old girl in Madison, Wisconsin.

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<v Speaker 1>Four months later, not long after her fifteenth birthday, she

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<v Speaker 1>murdered two people before taking her own life. Natalie Rucknow,

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<v Speaker 1>who preferred to go by Samantha, didn't live stream her attack,

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<v Speaker 1>which was a great disappointment to her followers. In the

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<v Speaker 1>final few minutes before she opened fire in a classroom

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<v Speaker 1>at Abundant Life Christian School in Madison, Wisconsin, on December sixteenth,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty four, she was sitting in a bathroom stall

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<v Speaker 1>making her last posts, a photo of her own hand

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<v Speaker 1>making the okay symbol commonly used to mean white power,

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<v Speaker 1>and a link to her manifesto that Boase garnered significant

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<v Speaker 1>attention later in the day, but at first, before it

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<v Speaker 1>was big news, only a few people saw it. She

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<v Speaker 1>only had a handful of followers. One of those followers

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<v Speaker 1>replied to the post, writing quote live stream it. He

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<v Speaker 1>quoted her post too, adding the same message live stream it.

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<v Speaker 1>He seemed to know what it was, despite the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that the link to the manifesto she posted didn't work.

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<v Speaker 1>He could only see the photo, a photo posted without

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<v Speaker 1>a caption of a hand held out over a bathroom

0:19:54.880 --> 0:20:04.119
<v Speaker 1>floor live stream it. He understood, or perhaps knew, that

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<v Speaker 1>this was her final post before an attack. There's no

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<v Speaker 1>concrete evidence, at least none that's been made public, that

0:20:12.240 --> 0:20:16.360
<v Speaker 1>this user had communicated directly with Roupnow about the specifics

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<v Speaker 1>of what was about to happen, but they were mutuals.

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<v Speaker 1>They followed each other's Twitter accounts. Screenshots of her account

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<v Speaker 1>taken before the attack hit the News showed that she

0:20:30.680 --> 0:20:35.439
<v Speaker 1>followed nineteen accounts. I can only tell you for sure

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<v Speaker 1>who two of them belonged to. She followed two accounts

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<v Speaker 1>that both belonged to a seventeen year old boy in Antioch, Tennessee.

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<v Speaker 1>A month after Rupnow's death, he was dead too. Solomon

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<v Speaker 1>Henderson shot and killed a student in his high school

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<v Speaker 1>cafeteria before taking his own life. It's like a virus.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like the ring. These kids are watching people die online.

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<v Speaker 1>They're consuming online media about mass murder, and then within

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<v Speaker 1>weeks they're dead too, and they've taken other people with them.

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<v Speaker 1>Samantha up Now killed two people, Aaron West, a teacher,

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<v Speaker 1>and a fourteen year old student named Ruby Vergara. Aaron

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<v Speaker 1>loved camping in Disney World and her husband of twenty

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<v Speaker 1>years and their three daughters. Ruby loved art, her pets,

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<v Speaker 1>and playing keyboard in her family worship band. They weren't targeted.

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<v Speaker 1>Their deaths were random, a meaningless, nihilist act of violence.

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<v Speaker 1>Solomon Henderson killed sixteen year old Joscelyn Correa Escalante Joscelyn

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<v Speaker 1>came to the United States from Guatemala when she was nine.

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<v Speaker 1>She was on the soccer team and she hoped to

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<v Speaker 1>become a doctor. The photo in her obituary is from

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<v Speaker 1>hur Quine Sanieira. They were so much more than that.

0:22:19.680 --> 0:22:24.359
<v Speaker 1>Of course, those few small details don't capture the depth

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<v Speaker 1>of what was lost. But I only know as much

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<v Speaker 1>about these victims as their families shared with the media

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<v Speaker 1>or wrote in their obituaries. I had to try to

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<v Speaker 1>learn something about who they were. They were real people,

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<v Speaker 1>people who were loved, people who had passions and struggles

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<v Speaker 1>and dreams, people with so much life left to live,

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<v Speaker 1>and that can't be allowed to get lost in this

0:22:52.359 --> 0:22:57.880
<v Speaker 1>story of contagious, hateful violence, violence seemingly for the sake

0:22:57.920 --> 0:23:04.760
<v Speaker 1>of violence alone. The way they died was meaningless, but

0:23:04.840 --> 0:23:11.919
<v Speaker 1>their deaths weren't, and their lives weren't. And selfishly, I

0:23:12.000 --> 0:23:17.919
<v Speaker 1>had to see their faces, smiling and alive. It's the

0:23:17.960 --> 0:23:20.960
<v Speaker 1>only way to push out the images of things I

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<v Speaker 1>wish I hadn't seen. After Solomon Henderson carried out his

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<v Speaker 1>attack at Antioch High School in Nashville, Tennessee, two documents surfaced.

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<v Speaker 1>One was a manifesto fifty one pages long. The other

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<v Speaker 1>was nearly three hundred pages of his online diary covering

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<v Speaker 1>the months leading up to the attack. Both documents are

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<v Speaker 1>full of links, screenshots, memes, selfies, copied sections of other texts,

0:23:54.960 --> 0:23:57.640
<v Speaker 1>and any truth they hold is buried in so many

0:23:57.720 --> 0:24:01.760
<v Speaker 1>layers of irony and inside jokes from incredibly insular online

0:24:01.760 --> 0:24:07.560
<v Speaker 1>communities that it's hard to take much away from them.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a manifesto and a diary, That's what the

0:24:12.359 --> 0:24:18.520
<v Speaker 1>documents are. But reading those documents it felt like I

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<v Speaker 1>spent most of the day reading a child's suicide note,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's really what they are. Like Arta Kasukia Team,

0:24:28.840 --> 0:24:33.760
<v Speaker 1>like Urai Krazik, like Samantha Rupnow Solomon Henderson was struggling

0:24:33.760 --> 0:24:38.359
<v Speaker 1>with thoughts of suicide. His diary starts in October of

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty four, three months before he died. It opens

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<v Speaker 1>with quote, I'm burning with hate. Hate will change the world.

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<v Speaker 1>An entry later in the evening that same day includes

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<v Speaker 1>the line quote the only good nd word is a

0:24:58.880 --> 0:25:06.639
<v Speaker 1>dead end word, and that includes me, Solomon Henderson. It

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<v Speaker 1>may surprise you to hear was black. He knew this

0:25:11.680 --> 0:25:15.560
<v Speaker 1>meant he couldn't be made a Saint pterogram. Saints have

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<v Speaker 1>to be white, but he wanted to do it anyway.

0:25:20.640 --> 0:25:23.480
<v Speaker 1>He wanted to be like his heroes, and he wanted

0:25:23.520 --> 0:25:30.399
<v Speaker 1>to inspire more violence. Andy wanted to be dead. A

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<v Speaker 1>few days later, he wrote, I'm perfect for this. I

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<v Speaker 1>have no faith in humanity. He doesn't say yet what

0:25:39.880 --> 0:25:44.600
<v Speaker 1>this is, but it's the same it he meant when

0:25:44.600 --> 0:25:49.680
<v Speaker 1>he told Samantha up now to live stream it. It's

0:25:49.760 --> 0:25:52.040
<v Speaker 1>clear that he was already planning a shooting, and that

0:25:52.119 --> 0:25:56.159
<v Speaker 1>he had been for months. The same week he started

0:25:56.240 --> 0:25:58.680
<v Speaker 1>keeping the diary, he pulled a box cutter on another

0:25:58.720 --> 0:26:02.920
<v Speaker 1>student at school and was spended for two days. He

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<v Speaker 1>was charged with attempted reckless endangerment, but was placed in

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<v Speaker 1>a diversion program instead of being prosecuted. On December sixteenth,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty four, at two am, he wrote in the diary,

0:26:17.680 --> 0:26:20.359
<v Speaker 1>when I think about what I'm going to do, I

0:26:20.400 --> 0:26:24.480
<v Speaker 1>get sad seeing and reading kids and adults before who

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<v Speaker 1>did similar attacks. The loneliness, the fact we had no

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<v Speaker 1>other choice, no help, just nothing. So like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>it's clear that he'd already been planning to do something.

0:26:39.280 --> 0:26:42.240
<v Speaker 1>He'd had the idea in his head long before what

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<v Speaker 1>happened later that day, but after Samantha Upnow's attack, he

0:26:47.320 --> 0:26:51.320
<v Speaker 1>became fixated on her, and his resolve to carry out

0:26:51.359 --> 0:26:57.000
<v Speaker 1>his attack intensified significantly. Later that evening, he wrote in

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<v Speaker 1>the diary, holy shit, the New School shooter followed me,

0:27:02.560 --> 0:27:05.520
<v Speaker 1>and he pasted in screenshots of her account before it

0:27:05.600 --> 0:27:08.920
<v Speaker 1>was deleted, showing that they did indeed follow each other.

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<v Speaker 1>On December eighteenth, two days after she died, he wrote,

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<v Speaker 1>She's stuck in my head. The next day, he created

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<v Speaker 1>a new Discord server. The portions of that server that

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<v Speaker 1>I've been able to view don't show very many messages

0:27:26.640 --> 0:27:29.600
<v Speaker 1>prior to the day he died, but based on the

0:27:29.680 --> 0:27:33.720
<v Speaker 1>reactions from the other users, it appears they all understood

0:27:33.760 --> 0:27:36.960
<v Speaker 1>when he invited them to the server that its purpose

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<v Speaker 1>was for them to be able to access the live

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<v Speaker 1>stream on the day he decided to do it. Creating

0:27:44.920 --> 0:27:48.640
<v Speaker 1>the server was a concrete step taken toward the attack,

0:27:48.720 --> 0:27:51.840
<v Speaker 1>and it was directly motivated by his new obsession with Repnow,

0:27:52.560 --> 0:27:56.200
<v Speaker 1>who he refers to as Saint Tris Repnow in both

0:27:56.200 --> 0:28:01.800
<v Speaker 1>his diary and his manifesto. At the end of the manifesto,

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<v Speaker 1>in a section titled final remarks, Henderson wrote, I was

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<v Speaker 1>so miserable I wanted to kill myself. I just couldn't

0:28:11.840 --> 0:28:16.080
<v Speaker 1>take it anymore. I'm a worthless subhuman, a living, breathing disgrace.

0:28:17.600 --> 0:28:22.440
<v Speaker 1>That all changed once I read Urikraje's manifesto and the

0:28:22.480 --> 0:28:28.800
<v Speaker 1>English edition Mass Cleaner Handbook. He's referring to the Bradoslava

0:28:28.840 --> 0:28:35.280
<v Speaker 1>shooter's manifesto and the document written by Arta Kasukia Team Mack.

0:28:35.320 --> 0:28:38.920
<v Speaker 1>When I originally read Kasukya Team's manifesto in August, I

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<v Speaker 1>had to copy and paste the Turkish text and to

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<v Speaker 1>Google translate one paragraph at a time. The English edition

0:28:46.040 --> 0:28:50.320
<v Speaker 1>he's talking about was posted online by that mysterious user

0:28:50.360 --> 0:28:58.440
<v Speaker 1>calling himself Hansen. Henderson's manifesto ends with this quote, I

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<v Speaker 1>take great pride in the fact that the people before

0:29:01.120 --> 0:29:05.040
<v Speaker 1>and after me will commit similar acts, not only in

0:29:05.040 --> 0:29:09.520
<v Speaker 1>the USA, but all over the world. I hope you

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<v Speaker 1>all enjoyed the broadcast After the shooting at Antioch High

0:29:16.400 --> 0:29:20.320
<v Speaker 1>School on January twenty second, twenty twenty five, people on

0:29:20.360 --> 0:29:26.520
<v Speaker 1>Twitter noticed something. They found his account. He'd been mutual

0:29:26.560 --> 0:29:29.120
<v Speaker 1>followers with rupp Now and interacted with her on the

0:29:29.200 --> 0:29:33.040
<v Speaker 1>day of the shooting. Several users had said back in

0:29:33.120 --> 0:29:36.520
<v Speaker 1>December that the authorities should follow up with him specifically

0:29:36.560 --> 0:29:40.680
<v Speaker 1>based on those posts. In January, at least one person

0:29:40.760 --> 0:29:42.720
<v Speaker 1>posted that they'd gone to the trouble of submitting an

0:29:42.760 --> 0:29:48.720
<v Speaker 1>official FBI tip the month prior. It's not clear if

0:29:48.880 --> 0:29:51.920
<v Speaker 1>the tip was even made, or if anyone followed up

0:29:51.920 --> 0:29:55.360
<v Speaker 1>on it, or if the authorities had Henderson on their

0:29:55.440 --> 0:30:00.240
<v Speaker 1>radar at all. Well, it's not clear if he on

0:30:00.280 --> 0:30:04.440
<v Speaker 1>their radar in January of twenty twenty five, because the

0:30:04.480 --> 0:30:08.440
<v Speaker 1>authorities had been in contact with Solomon Henderson several times.

0:30:09.920 --> 0:30:12.640
<v Speaker 1>He was arrested in twenty twenty when he was just thirteen,

0:30:12.880 --> 0:30:15.040
<v Speaker 1>after his mother called the police to report that he'd

0:30:15.120 --> 0:30:17.160
<v Speaker 1>run away after punching her in the face and hitting

0:30:17.160 --> 0:30:21.440
<v Speaker 1>her with a chair. In November of twenty twenty three,

0:30:21.520 --> 0:30:25.280
<v Speaker 1>he was charged with aggravated sexual exploitation of a miner

0:30:25.760 --> 0:30:31.280
<v Speaker 1>after downloading child sexual abuse material. There aren't any more

0:30:31.360 --> 0:30:35.520
<v Speaker 1>details provided in the reporting on this. He was a

0:30:35.520 --> 0:30:39.800
<v Speaker 1>miner himself, just sixteen at the time, but child sexual

0:30:39.840 --> 0:30:44.040
<v Speaker 1>abuse material is always illegal for anyone to have for

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<v Speaker 1>any reason, and it's also rampant in the same online communities.

0:30:49.920 --> 0:30:54.480
<v Speaker 1>The traffic and gore videos and mass shooting warship as

0:30:54.480 --> 0:30:58.080
<v Speaker 1>a miner. His court record is not open for public inspection,

0:30:59.280 --> 0:31:01.760
<v Speaker 1>but news outlets report that he was court ordered to

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<v Speaker 1>have no access to the internet except for as needed

0:31:04.640 --> 0:31:08.280
<v Speaker 1>for schoolwork, but it's not clear what the duration of

0:31:08.280 --> 0:31:11.880
<v Speaker 1>that sentence would have been. At some point in twenty

0:31:11.920 --> 0:31:14.840
<v Speaker 1>twenty three, the Nashville Police took two guns away from

0:31:14.840 --> 0:31:17.800
<v Speaker 1>the home, but police will only say that the guns

0:31:17.800 --> 0:31:21.400
<v Speaker 1>belonged to an adult, but they can't release any more

0:31:21.400 --> 0:31:23.400
<v Speaker 1>details about why they were called to the house in

0:31:23.440 --> 0:31:29.000
<v Speaker 1>the first place because it involved a minor. And then

0:31:29.040 --> 0:31:31.560
<v Speaker 1>in October of twenty twenty four, he was arrested for

0:31:31.600 --> 0:31:35.400
<v Speaker 1>pulling a knife on a girl at school on the

0:31:35.520 --> 0:31:39.200
<v Speaker 1>day of the shooting. In January, he was dropped off

0:31:39.200 --> 0:31:42.800
<v Speaker 1>at school late. He'd spent all morning at court with

0:31:42.840 --> 0:31:46.880
<v Speaker 1>his mother. As part of the diversion program he'd been

0:31:46.880 --> 0:31:50.560
<v Speaker 1>put into for that charge, he had to sign paperwork

0:31:50.640 --> 0:31:54.000
<v Speaker 1>acknowledging that he was court ordered not to possess any

0:31:54.080 --> 0:32:01.040
<v Speaker 1>guns or ammunition, so there were warning signs they knew

0:32:01.040 --> 0:32:04.680
<v Speaker 1>who he was. He wasn't allowed online, and he wasn't

0:32:04.680 --> 0:32:07.560
<v Speaker 1>allowed to touch a gun, and the cops had previously

0:32:07.600 --> 0:32:12.400
<v Speaker 1>removed all of the guns from his home. Doesn't seem

0:32:12.400 --> 0:32:16.800
<v Speaker 1>to have made a difference, and while the cops may

0:32:16.800 --> 0:32:19.360
<v Speaker 1>have missed some of the red flags in Solomon Henderson's

0:32:19.400 --> 0:32:24.680
<v Speaker 1>final days, they did show some initiative. The day after

0:32:24.760 --> 0:32:28.160
<v Speaker 1>Repnew's death, authorities in California detained a twenty year old

0:32:28.240 --> 0:32:33.040
<v Speaker 1>man named Alexander Paffendorf. It would take months to get

0:32:33.080 --> 0:32:35.800
<v Speaker 1>records from the various platforms where Repnow had been posting

0:32:35.840 --> 0:32:38.200
<v Speaker 1>and messaging in order to see the full scope of

0:32:38.200 --> 0:32:42.600
<v Speaker 1>her online communications, but her messages with Paffendorf were seen

0:32:42.640 --> 0:32:50.280
<v Speaker 1>by agents immediately, and those messages were very concerning. Apparently

0:32:50.320 --> 0:32:52.640
<v Speaker 1>the pair had been messaging in the days leading up

0:32:52.680 --> 0:32:56.800
<v Speaker 1>to the attack. It isn't entirely clear to me, based

0:32:56.840 --> 0:32:59.800
<v Speaker 1>on the reporting that I could find, if Pafendorf had

0:33:00.040 --> 0:33:05.160
<v Speaker 1>specific prior knowledge of the shooting, like an actual time, date,

0:33:05.240 --> 0:33:10.000
<v Speaker 1>and place, but they had been exchanging fairly explicit messages

0:33:10.040 --> 0:33:12.880
<v Speaker 1>about their shared intent to carry out a mass shooting

0:33:12.920 --> 0:33:17.480
<v Speaker 1>in the near future. His messages to her contained details

0:33:17.520 --> 0:33:19.880
<v Speaker 1>of a plan to attack a federal building using guns

0:33:19.880 --> 0:33:25.360
<v Speaker 1>and explosives. The FBI acted quickly, and they arrived at

0:33:25.360 --> 0:33:30.480
<v Speaker 1>his home with guns drawn. The very next day, when

0:33:30.520 --> 0:33:34.240
<v Speaker 1>he was interviewed by FBI agents, he admitted to exchanging

0:33:34.240 --> 0:33:39.360
<v Speaker 1>messages with Rupnow, but he wasn't charged with a crime. Instead,

0:33:39.400 --> 0:33:42.760
<v Speaker 1>the Carlsbad, California Police Department filed an application for a

0:33:42.800 --> 0:33:46.280
<v Speaker 1>gun violence emergency protective Order, and they placed him on

0:33:46.320 --> 0:33:53.440
<v Speaker 1>a psychiatric hold. It turned out that Alexander Paffendorf didn't

0:33:53.480 --> 0:33:57.920
<v Speaker 1>own any guns. He had no guns or bomb making

0:33:57.960 --> 0:34:02.000
<v Speaker 1>materials at all. He'd just been trying to impress a

0:34:02.080 --> 0:34:06.720
<v Speaker 1>teenage girl online. The two talked online quite a bit,

0:34:07.400 --> 0:34:11.480
<v Speaker 1>chatting about their suicidal thoughts, their white supremacist beliefs, and

0:34:11.520 --> 0:34:16.160
<v Speaker 1>their plans to murder as many people as possible, but

0:34:16.239 --> 0:34:20.160
<v Speaker 1>he claims he didn't mean it. He apologized in court,

0:34:20.480 --> 0:34:23.840
<v Speaker 1>saying he'd been attempting to pursue a romantic relationship with

0:34:23.920 --> 0:34:27.200
<v Speaker 1>the girl and never had any intention of purchasing any

0:34:27.200 --> 0:34:30.600
<v Speaker 1>weapons or following through on the things they talked about.

0:34:31.920 --> 0:34:36.400
<v Speaker 1>Maybe he assumed she didn't mean it either. No criminal

0:34:36.520 --> 0:34:39.440
<v Speaker 1>charges were filed against Paffendorff, and a judge in San

0:34:39.480 --> 0:34:42.040
<v Speaker 1>Diego ruled in April that he will be legally barred

0:34:42.040 --> 0:34:44.600
<v Speaker 1>from owning a gun until at least twenty twenty eight

0:34:47.360 --> 0:34:51.600
<v Speaker 1>It's not entirely clear if he knew she was only fifteen,

0:34:53.080 --> 0:34:55.879
<v Speaker 1>but given the nature of the online spaces they were in,

0:34:57.160 --> 0:35:14.759
<v Speaker 1>I would bet that he did, and Alexander Paffendorff was

0:35:14.840 --> 0:35:20.520
<v Speaker 1>knocked Samantha Rupnow's only online boyfriend. That six page document

0:35:20.600 --> 0:35:24.279
<v Speaker 1>she posted just before the shooting was locked. It was

0:35:24.320 --> 0:35:26.520
<v Speaker 1>a link to a Google doc that she'd forgotten to

0:35:26.560 --> 0:35:32.120
<v Speaker 1>make publicly accessible. Unlike Artikazu Yeteam, she hadn't prepared a

0:35:32.520 --> 0:35:35.759
<v Speaker 1>mass shooter's press kit and left it with a co conspirator,

0:35:36.920 --> 0:35:39.319
<v Speaker 1>so at first it seemed like no one would ever

0:35:39.360 --> 0:35:44.440
<v Speaker 1>know what was in the manifesto. Within hours, though, a

0:35:44.520 --> 0:35:48.320
<v Speaker 1>Canadian woman named Anna Slats claimed to have made contact

0:35:48.320 --> 0:35:56.439
<v Speaker 1>with the shooter's boyfriend. Slats is a journalist, I guess.

0:35:57.280 --> 0:35:59.560
<v Speaker 1>In twenty eighteen, she was the editor of her college

0:35:59.560 --> 0:36:02.879
<v Speaker 1>newspaper until she was forced to step down after making

0:36:02.960 --> 0:36:07.120
<v Speaker 1>the editorial decision to publish a racist screed from a

0:36:07.200 --> 0:36:11.359
<v Speaker 1>no neo Nazi. She worked briefly for the far right,

0:36:11.760 --> 0:36:15.759
<v Speaker 1>virulently islamophobic outlet Rebel News, and sometimes wrote for The

0:36:15.760 --> 0:36:19.640
<v Speaker 1>Post Millennial. In twenty twenty two, she founded her own

0:36:19.680 --> 0:36:23.839
<v Speaker 1>outlet that focuses almost exclusively on stirring a hatred towards

0:36:23.920 --> 0:36:28.719
<v Speaker 1>trans women, and that may have been what sparked Slats's

0:36:28.760 --> 0:36:32.400
<v Speaker 1>initial interest in the story. There were rumors in the

0:36:32.400 --> 0:36:37.279
<v Speaker 1>immediate aftermath of the shooting that Repnow was transgender. She

0:36:37.480 --> 0:36:42.400
<v Speaker 1>wasn't by all accounts, she was a heterosexual cisgender female.

0:36:44.120 --> 0:36:47.319
<v Speaker 1>But regardless of what drew Slats to the story, she

0:36:47.440 --> 0:36:50.000
<v Speaker 1>managed to convince a user who claimed to be Repnow's

0:36:50.040 --> 0:36:53.400
<v Speaker 1>long distance boyfriend to share a copy of the manifesto

0:36:53.440 --> 0:36:58.280
<v Speaker 1>with her. She then proceeded to water mark each page

0:36:58.280 --> 0:37:01.680
<v Speaker 1>of the manifesto with her own name before posting the

0:37:01.719 --> 0:37:08.440
<v Speaker 1>images to Twitter. Now, as a journalist, I understand the

0:37:08.480 --> 0:37:12.000
<v Speaker 1>frustration at having your work stolen and your research used

0:37:12.040 --> 0:37:16.319
<v Speaker 1>without credit. I do. It's happened to me too many

0:37:16.320 --> 0:37:20.279
<v Speaker 1>times to count. But I can't, for the life of me,

0:37:20.640 --> 0:37:24.840
<v Speaker 1>even begin to imagine these series of thoughts and ideas

0:37:24.880 --> 0:37:27.839
<v Speaker 1>that would have to pass through your head to lead

0:37:27.880 --> 0:37:31.400
<v Speaker 1>you to a place where you were watermarking your name

0:37:32.160 --> 0:37:35.840
<v Speaker 1>onto the pages of a manifesto of a dead child

0:37:36.920 --> 0:37:41.279
<v Speaker 1>hours after the author shot up a school. That makes

0:37:41.320 --> 0:37:46.520
<v Speaker 1>me nauseous but like I said, journalist is kind of

0:37:46.520 --> 0:37:53.120
<v Speaker 1>a loose term here. The boyfriend, who's never been named publicly,

0:37:53.760 --> 0:37:56.799
<v Speaker 1>says Repno sent him the manifesto on WhatsApp about an

0:37:56.840 --> 0:38:00.120
<v Speaker 1>hour before the shooting, but that he didn't see it

0:38:00.320 --> 0:38:05.520
<v Speaker 1>until hours later. A classmate says Repnow had talked about

0:38:05.560 --> 0:38:08.600
<v Speaker 1>having an internet boyfriend who lived in Germany, and that

0:38:08.640 --> 0:38:12.520
<v Speaker 1>appears to be the same individual who provided the manifesto.

0:38:12.640 --> 0:38:16.880
<v Speaker 1>We don't know if he's actually a teenager or actually

0:38:17.000 --> 0:38:20.240
<v Speaker 1>in Germany, but these are the elements of his identity

0:38:20.320 --> 0:38:22.880
<v Speaker 1>that he claims, and that she was telling people in

0:38:22.920 --> 0:38:27.520
<v Speaker 1>her life. The unnamed Twitter user slat spoke to said

0:38:27.520 --> 0:38:30.200
<v Speaker 1>they'd been talking for about two years and he did

0:38:30.239 --> 0:38:32.920
<v Speaker 1>seem to know a significant amount of information about Repnow's

0:38:32.920 --> 0:38:39.440
<v Speaker 1>home life. So she sent the manifesto to her German boyfriend.

0:38:40.560 --> 0:38:45.120
<v Speaker 1>She exchanged murder fantasies with Alexander Paffendorff, but there was

0:38:45.160 --> 0:38:49.080
<v Speaker 1>at least one more internet boyfriend chatting about mass shootings

0:38:49.080 --> 0:38:53.759
<v Speaker 1>with Samantha Repnow. The first two internet boyfriends came to

0:38:53.840 --> 0:38:57.439
<v Speaker 1>light on the day of the shooting. FBI agents saw

0:38:57.480 --> 0:38:59.799
<v Speaker 1>the messages between Repno and Paffendorf as soon as they

0:38:59.800 --> 0:39:03.640
<v Speaker 1>took custody of her phone, and the unnamed German boyfriend

0:39:03.719 --> 0:39:07.360
<v Speaker 1>outed himself in a series of tweets and ultimately shared

0:39:07.360 --> 0:39:12.640
<v Speaker 1>the manifesto with Anna Slats. The third man's existence didn't

0:39:12.640 --> 0:39:14.799
<v Speaker 1>come to light until he was arrested at the end

0:39:14.800 --> 0:39:18.799
<v Speaker 1>of April twenty twenty five, four months after Repnow's death.

0:39:20.600 --> 0:39:23.360
<v Speaker 1>It took that long for the very slow wheels of

0:39:23.360 --> 0:39:27.880
<v Speaker 1>the justice system to turn. According to the charging documents

0:39:27.880 --> 0:39:31.600
<v Speaker 1>in Damian Allen's case, the FBI searched Repnow's cell phone

0:39:31.640 --> 0:39:36.000
<v Speaker 1>and home almost immediately, but they didn't even apply for

0:39:36.200 --> 0:39:38.960
<v Speaker 1>the search warrants for her TikTok accounts until over a

0:39:39.000 --> 0:39:44.920
<v Speaker 1>month later, on January thirtieth, twenty twenty five. It's useless

0:39:44.920 --> 0:39:48.239
<v Speaker 1>to speculate about why that might be. Maybe that's just

0:39:48.320 --> 0:39:50.400
<v Speaker 1>how long it took to get around to the paperwork.

0:39:51.280 --> 0:39:53.080
<v Speaker 1>Maybe that's how long it took for them to figure

0:39:53.080 --> 0:39:57.040
<v Speaker 1>out which accounts belonged to her. It's common for people

0:39:57.080 --> 0:39:59.920
<v Speaker 1>active in online extremist communities to cycle through a ca

0:40:00.040 --> 0:40:04.120
<v Speaker 1>counts pretty quickly, getting banned for posting something hideous, making

0:40:04.120 --> 0:40:07.160
<v Speaker 1>a new account, reconnecting with old followers, getting banned again,

0:40:07.800 --> 0:40:11.799
<v Speaker 1>and so on forever. So maybe it took a little

0:40:11.800 --> 0:40:14.480
<v Speaker 1>bit of legwork to know what to even ask for

0:40:14.600 --> 0:40:18.680
<v Speaker 1>when drafting them warrant. I'm willing to bet that played

0:40:18.680 --> 0:40:24.040
<v Speaker 1>a role here, But the timing does raise an uncomfortable question.

0:40:25.960 --> 0:40:31.640
<v Speaker 1>Had they not planned on looking at everything, they'd gone

0:40:31.640 --> 0:40:35.680
<v Speaker 1>in guns blazing to grab Alexander Paffendorff right away, and

0:40:35.760 --> 0:40:39.760
<v Speaker 1>that turned out to be a situation that was admittedly gross,

0:40:40.960 --> 0:40:44.320
<v Speaker 1>but not life threatening. There was no mass murder in

0:40:44.360 --> 0:40:47.480
<v Speaker 1>the making there. He was just a guy with violent

0:40:47.560 --> 0:40:53.600
<v Speaker 1>fantasies who wanted to date a child. Again disgusting, abhorrent,

0:40:54.880 --> 0:40:58.880
<v Speaker 1>but he was lying about planning a mass shooting. He

0:40:58.880 --> 0:41:03.000
<v Speaker 1>didn't even own a gun. So maybe it took the

0:41:03.120 --> 0:41:07.160
<v Speaker 1>entire six weeks between December sixteenth, when the shooting occurred

0:41:07.480 --> 0:41:10.720
<v Speaker 1>in January thirtieth and the war it was signed. Maybe

0:41:10.719 --> 0:41:13.800
<v Speaker 1>it took six weeks to identify all the TikTok accounts

0:41:13.800 --> 0:41:19.640
<v Speaker 1>connected to rupnow. But maybe Solomon Henderson's attack on January

0:41:19.640 --> 0:41:24.480
<v Speaker 1>twenty second played a part in that timeline. Paffendorf was bluffing,

0:41:25.800 --> 0:41:28.200
<v Speaker 1>But after the shooting in Tennessee, it was all too

0:41:28.280 --> 0:41:33.359
<v Speaker 1>clear that not everyone shed talked to online was some

0:41:33.440 --> 0:41:38.319
<v Speaker 1>of them were deadly serious. Either way, we'll never know,

0:41:39.960 --> 0:41:42.640
<v Speaker 1>and it took TikTok two months to respond to the

0:41:42.680 --> 0:41:46.799
<v Speaker 1>court order to produce those records. So it wasn't until

0:41:46.840 --> 0:41:49.880
<v Speaker 1>April of twenty twenty five that FBI agents in Milwaukee

0:41:50.000 --> 0:41:53.440
<v Speaker 1>made an urgent call to the FBI Field office in Miami.

0:41:54.520 --> 0:41:56.359
<v Speaker 1>They needed to get in touch with the Palm Beach

0:41:56.440 --> 0:42:00.640
<v Speaker 1>County Sheriff's Office as soon as possible. One of the

0:42:00.680 --> 0:42:04.400
<v Speaker 1>men who'd spent all summer chatting with Rough now appeared

0:42:04.440 --> 0:42:11.000
<v Speaker 1>to be one of their deputies. After what must have

0:42:11.040 --> 0:42:14.080
<v Speaker 1>been a very tense call between the FBI and the

0:42:14.080 --> 0:42:17.759
<v Speaker 1>Internal Affairs Bureau in Palm Beach, it was determined that

0:42:18.280 --> 0:42:22.319
<v Speaker 1>the accounts did belong to Damian Allen, But despite the

0:42:22.360 --> 0:42:26.000
<v Speaker 1>scores of photos of Allan posing in his apparently very

0:42:26.080 --> 0:42:29.960
<v Speaker 1>real Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office uniform, he'd never been

0:42:29.960 --> 0:42:35.280
<v Speaker 1>employed there or by any law enforcement agency. When police

0:42:35.280 --> 0:42:39.360
<v Speaker 1>searched his home, they found eighteen guns, twelve thousand rounds

0:42:39.360 --> 0:42:44.640
<v Speaker 1>of ammunition, and a variety of authentic or realistic replicas

0:42:45.000 --> 0:42:48.799
<v Speaker 1>of uniforms for various law enforcement agencies and branches of

0:42:48.800 --> 0:42:55.319
<v Speaker 1>the military. According to the charging documents, Damian Allen communicated

0:42:55.360 --> 0:42:58.480
<v Speaker 1>with Samantha upp Now regularly between May and September of

0:42:58.520 --> 0:43:02.520
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty four. The documents only contain excerpts of their

0:43:02.520 --> 0:43:06.520
<v Speaker 1>conversations over TikTok DM, but they exchanged usernames for a

0:43:06.600 --> 0:43:11.359
<v Speaker 1>variety of other platforms, including Snapchat and discord. In one

0:43:11.400 --> 0:43:15.440
<v Speaker 1>message in May of twenty twenty four, Repnow tells Alan quote,

0:43:16.000 --> 0:43:18.080
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to do a black church that was near me,

0:43:18.680 --> 0:43:23.520
<v Speaker 1>but you know. He responded by telling her about his gear,

0:43:24.040 --> 0:43:27.960
<v Speaker 1>describing his bulletproof best, his collection of high capacity magazines,

0:43:28.600 --> 0:43:33.600
<v Speaker 1>and stockpile of flash banks and smoke grenades. Repnow, who

0:43:33.680 --> 0:43:36.560
<v Speaker 1>was at the time just fourteen years old, says she

0:43:36.680 --> 0:43:41.040
<v Speaker 1>only had access to her dad's handguns. In the middle

0:43:41.040 --> 0:43:45.560
<v Speaker 1>of this conversation about guns, Alan wrote quote, once you

0:43:45.600 --> 0:43:49.920
<v Speaker 1>get to a point, there's no going back. And he

0:43:49.960 --> 0:43:53.480
<v Speaker 1>said he had a plan to strike seven different locations.

0:43:54.719 --> 0:43:57.480
<v Speaker 1>Two weeks later, in another late night conversation about their

0:43:57.520 --> 0:44:02.239
<v Speaker 1>plans to carry out mass shootings, Alan wrote, quote, we

0:44:02.280 --> 0:44:08.239
<v Speaker 1>go down together. Twitch. Rup Now replied correct, I love you.

0:44:10.200 --> 0:44:17.640
<v Speaker 1>I love you more, Alan wrote. In July, Repnow scolded

0:44:17.680 --> 0:44:21.279
<v Speaker 1>Alan for a post he'd made. The post isn't described

0:44:21.320 --> 0:44:23.560
<v Speaker 1>in the affidavit, and his accounts are gone for the

0:44:23.560 --> 0:44:26.920
<v Speaker 1>most part, but it sounds like he'd probably posted one

0:44:26.920 --> 0:44:30.480
<v Speaker 1>of those fan edit videos of cut together clips and

0:44:30.560 --> 0:44:34.720
<v Speaker 1>photos of different murderers. It's a popular style of content

0:44:34.719 --> 0:44:41.480
<v Speaker 1>in these communities. But Repnow's message admonishes him. She wrote, quote,

0:44:41.920 --> 0:44:45.560
<v Speaker 1>Dylan Cleebold was a Jew, Adam Landsa was a gay pedophile,

0:44:45.760 --> 0:44:48.800
<v Speaker 1>Nick was also a pedophile. The Trump shooter also a Jew.

0:44:49.440 --> 0:44:52.520
<v Speaker 1>Peyton Gendron was in de furryborn which all of that

0:44:52.640 --> 0:44:56.239
<v Speaker 1>is disgraceful and disgusting. Looks stuff up before posting it.

0:44:58.320 --> 0:45:01.799
<v Speaker 1>Apparently she thought his taste in my lass shooters was lowbrow.

0:45:03.960 --> 0:45:06.200
<v Speaker 1>By September of twenty twenty four, they seem to have

0:45:06.239 --> 0:45:11.160
<v Speaker 1>broken up. The charging documents only contained snippets, so there's

0:45:11.200 --> 0:45:15.440
<v Speaker 1>no context, But on September twenty third, rub Now wrote quote,

0:45:16.320 --> 0:45:20.640
<v Speaker 1>I know I unadded you, and I apologize. I love

0:45:20.680 --> 0:45:23.960
<v Speaker 1>you and I'm so sorry about all this. I hope

0:45:24.000 --> 0:45:26.000
<v Speaker 1>all goes well for you and I don't do what

0:45:26.040 --> 0:45:30.279
<v Speaker 1>I did again. A few minutes later, she followed up,

0:45:30.320 --> 0:45:33.680
<v Speaker 1>writing I will always care and love you, even if

0:45:33.680 --> 0:45:35.879
<v Speaker 1>I'm not right for you. As much as I want

0:45:35.880 --> 0:45:38.240
<v Speaker 1>to talk to you every day and hour of my time,

0:45:38.280 --> 0:45:40.360
<v Speaker 1>I can't because I don't want to harm you in

0:45:40.360 --> 0:45:44.920
<v Speaker 1>any way. A few days later, Alan messaged her to

0:45:44.960 --> 0:45:47.560
<v Speaker 1>say his other account had been banned and asked her

0:45:47.560 --> 0:45:52.160
<v Speaker 1>to Adam on Snapchat. It is possible they continued chatting

0:45:52.160 --> 0:45:56.239
<v Speaker 1>on another platform. The Palm Beach Sheriff's Detectives affidavit only

0:45:56.239 --> 0:45:59.640
<v Speaker 1>describes the communication he reviewed from the direct messages on TikTok,

0:46:01.600 --> 0:46:04.200
<v Speaker 1>and there's no allegation made in the affidavit that they

0:46:04.239 --> 0:46:08.840
<v Speaker 1>believe Alan had specific prior knowledge of the shooting that

0:46:08.920 --> 0:46:13.000
<v Speaker 1>Rucknow carried out in December, and all mention of communications

0:46:13.040 --> 0:46:16.280
<v Speaker 1>between the two of them stops after September of twenty

0:46:16.320 --> 0:46:21.000
<v Speaker 1>twenty four, three months before the shooting. The latter half

0:46:21.040 --> 0:46:25.360
<v Speaker 1>of the affidavit is just dedicated to describing the hundreds

0:46:25.400 --> 0:46:28.920
<v Speaker 1>of Instagram, TikTok and discord posts he made pretending to

0:46:28.960 --> 0:46:33.480
<v Speaker 1>be a sheriff's deputy, which again he was not. But

0:46:33.520 --> 0:46:36.239
<v Speaker 1>there is one rather cryptic line at the end of

0:46:36.239 --> 0:46:40.640
<v Speaker 1>the affidavit quote. It should be noted that it appears

0:46:40.680 --> 0:46:44.880
<v Speaker 1>Alan stopped communicating in his chat before Rucknow executed her

0:46:44.920 --> 0:46:49.920
<v Speaker 1>plan and has not communicated again since. Alan was talking

0:46:49.920 --> 0:46:56.120
<v Speaker 1>to numerous members prior to the attack almost daily, so

0:46:56.200 --> 0:47:01.320
<v Speaker 1>he stopped posting in his own discord channel right before

0:47:02.080 --> 0:47:06.160
<v Speaker 1>Rupp now carried out her attack. He'd been posting in

0:47:06.200 --> 0:47:12.080
<v Speaker 1>that discord constantly, and then suddenly he stopped. He went

0:47:12.200 --> 0:47:16.360
<v Speaker 1>dark online. There's no mention of anything he posted anywhere

0:47:16.400 --> 0:47:20.440
<v Speaker 1>after December of twenty twenty four. I found a handful

0:47:20.480 --> 0:47:24.359
<v Speaker 1>of posts made in January February of this year on

0:47:24.400 --> 0:47:27.560
<v Speaker 1>TikTok and Instagram accounts that he used for posting pictures

0:47:27.560 --> 0:47:30.880
<v Speaker 1>of his cop role play server in Grand Theft Auto.

0:47:31.000 --> 0:47:34.960
<v Speaker 1>But his real accounts, his personal accounts, his accounts where

0:47:35.000 --> 0:47:41.240
<v Speaker 1>he expressed himself politically, those went away. Was Damian Allen

0:47:41.520 --> 0:47:44.080
<v Speaker 1>actually preparing to carry out a mass shooting of his

0:47:44.160 --> 0:47:47.480
<v Speaker 1>own or was he just another grown man telling a

0:47:47.520 --> 0:47:50.719
<v Speaker 1>fourteen year old girl he loved her while encouraging her

0:47:50.719 --> 0:47:56.319
<v Speaker 1>to kill the difference between Damian Allen and Alexander Paffendorff

0:47:56.560 --> 0:48:01.640
<v Speaker 1>is the guns. Pafendorf was talking and shit, he didn't

0:48:01.680 --> 0:48:06.040
<v Speaker 1>actually have so much as a bullet in his possession. Alan, however,

0:48:06.360 --> 0:48:08.920
<v Speaker 1>had so much ammunition in his home that the initial

0:48:08.960 --> 0:48:13.680
<v Speaker 1>reports just listed it as three hundred pounds of bullets

0:48:14.160 --> 0:48:17.360
<v Speaker 1>because it was easier to weigh them than to count them.

0:48:17.960 --> 0:48:20.800
<v Speaker 1>He also had a closet full of police and military

0:48:20.880 --> 0:48:24.719
<v Speaker 1>uniforms that were so realistic the FBI thought he was

0:48:24.760 --> 0:48:30.000
<v Speaker 1>a real cop. It's impossible to know what might have happened,

0:48:30.840 --> 0:48:34.160
<v Speaker 1>but his fascination with both mass shootings and fourteen year

0:48:34.200 --> 0:48:37.280
<v Speaker 1>old girls seems to date back at least a couple

0:48:37.280 --> 0:48:41.480
<v Speaker 1>of years. In October of twenty twenty one, when Alan

0:48:41.560 --> 0:48:44.440
<v Speaker 1>was a nineteen year old high school senior, he was

0:48:44.560 --> 0:48:48.240
<v Speaker 1>charged with lewde and lascivious molestation of a victim under sixteen.

0:48:49.360 --> 0:48:51.120
<v Speaker 1>I will note for the record that he was not

0:48:51.160 --> 0:48:54.080
<v Speaker 1>actually convicted on this charge. He was placed in a

0:48:54.120 --> 0:48:57.880
<v Speaker 1>pre trial diversion program that required him to complete a

0:48:57.960 --> 0:49:02.200
<v Speaker 1>mental health evaluation and prohibited him from possessing firearms for

0:49:02.200 --> 0:49:06.440
<v Speaker 1>a period of time. The case was dismissed after he

0:49:06.480 --> 0:49:11.000
<v Speaker 1>successfully completed the diversion program in twenty twenty three, which

0:49:11.040 --> 0:49:14.759
<v Speaker 1>is weird because he was posting videos of himself all

0:49:14.800 --> 0:49:17.560
<v Speaker 1>over social media throughout twenty twenty two and twenty twenty

0:49:17.600 --> 0:49:23.319
<v Speaker 1>three of himself handling firearms, so I guess this one

0:49:23.360 --> 0:49:28.319
<v Speaker 1>just slipped through the cracks. So to be clear, Technically,

0:49:28.960 --> 0:49:32.719
<v Speaker 1>he was not convicted of groping a fourteen year old

0:49:32.760 --> 0:49:38.880
<v Speaker 1>girl's breast, but the affidavit is interesting either way. The

0:49:38.960 --> 0:49:42.600
<v Speaker 1>victim told police she'd noticed Alan watching her during gym class.

0:49:43.880 --> 0:49:46.720
<v Speaker 1>After jim class, he followed her as she walked to lunch.

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<v Speaker 1>At some point, she asked him what sort of vibe

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<v Speaker 1>he was going for with his outfit, and he responded

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<v Speaker 1>that he was trying to achieve a quote nineteen ninety nine,

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<v Speaker 1>Columbine Vine like a black trench coat with stuff strapped

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<v Speaker 1>to me. This obviously made the girl a little uncomfortable,

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<v Speaker 1>so she turned to walk away. He followed her, then

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<v Speaker 1>grabbed her by the shoulder and slid his hand down

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<v Speaker 1>her chest, grabbing her breast. Alan told the responding officer

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<v Speaker 1>that the girl was making up the stuff about him

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<v Speaker 1>touching her because she'd been scared of what he said

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<v Speaker 1>about Columbine. So he does admit that he told a

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<v Speaker 1>much younger student that he was costplaying as a school shooter.

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<v Speaker 1>He just denies that he touched her. Damian Allen is

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<v Speaker 1>currently being held without bond in Palm Beach County. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>interested to see if his case turns up any new

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<v Speaker 1>evidence about the online spaces where he may have first

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<v Speaker 1>met rap Now. I seriously doubt he just messaged her

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<v Speaker 1>on TikTok at random. They overlapped somewhere. He's an indictment

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<v Speaker 1>of a man named Anna Ruth Koposwami in Pennsylvania offers

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<v Speaker 1>a hint that only raises more questions. Kapasami was an

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<v Speaker 1>avid consumer of Terogram content, but he was arrested for

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<v Speaker 1>the possession of child sexual abuse material, material that he'd

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<v Speaker 1>solicited from a teenage girl that he was grooming online.

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<v Speaker 1>The victim in this case lived in Georgia. Kawasami lived

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<v Speaker 1>in Pennsylvania, and in filings in his case, the government

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<v Speaker 1>notes that the victim posted on Instagram that she'd been

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<v Speaker 1>friends with Robnow, and while his charges are related to

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<v Speaker 1>the allegations that he coerced a minor into sending him

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<v Speaker 1>sexual photographs, their conversations weren't just about sex. He was

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<v Speaker 1>also talking to her about how to commit and get

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<v Speaker 1>away with murders. I couldn't tell you exactly how many

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<v Speaker 1>men are online right now trying to convince a teen

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<v Speaker 1>to commit random, unprovoked acts of lethal violence. But it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't feel like a coincidence that these girls encountered each

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<v Speaker 1>other online before it turns out, this wasn't really a

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<v Speaker 1>story about Damian Allen at all, was it. I could

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<v Speaker 1>have written a few thousand words about Alan's tragic backstory.

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<v Speaker 1>I certainly wasted enough time digging it up, trying to

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<v Speaker 1>fill in the blanks and court records and old Facebook statuses.

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<v Speaker 1>His parents seemed to have had a pretty violent relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>His father was charged several times with things like domestic

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<v Speaker 1>violence and child neglect, but it never seemed to stick.

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<v Speaker 1>His mom left him with his father, taking his baby

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<v Speaker 1>brother with her when she moved in with a new

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<v Speaker 1>boyfriend and had another son. His mom was in and

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<v Speaker 1>out of rehab a few times before ending up in

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<v Speaker 1>prison in twenty seventeen for sex trafficking a friend's teenage daughter.

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<v Speaker 1>Seems to be when he started pretending to be a

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<v Speaker 1>cop online. But none of that really matters, does it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know when he started fantasizing about mass murder

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<v Speaker 1>or how he met the murderer he said he loved.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if he was lying to impress a child,

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<v Speaker 1>or if he really was going to do something with

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<v Speaker 1>all those guns, maybe he was all talk, or maybe

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<v Speaker 1>he was going to be the next link in the

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<v Speaker 1>chain reaction of violence that started in an online chat room.

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<v Speaker 1>But if not him, who will it be. You're right,

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<v Speaker 1>Grayjake is dead. Samantha up Now is dead. Solomon Henderson

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<v Speaker 1>is dead. All three teenagers took their own lives after

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<v Speaker 1>carrying out a shooting at the urging of people they

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<v Speaker 1>met online. Between the three of them, they killed five people,

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<v Speaker 1>but Ta Graham killed eight. They were sucked into online

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<v Speaker 1>communities steeped in gore, communities that celebrated death and made

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<v Speaker 1>them believe that the only way their lives would have

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<v Speaker 1>any meaning is if they died doing something too horrible

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<v Speaker 1>to forget. Bartika Sukia Team was arrested before he could

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<v Speaker 1>attempt to take his own life, and he now faces

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<v Speaker 1>over one hundred years in prison. Dallas Humber and Matthew

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<v Speaker 1>Allison are awaiting trial for their role in encouraging these attacks.

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<v Speaker 1>Terrogram has been designated as a terrorist organization. At least

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<v Speaker 1>a dozen people associated with the group have been arrested

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<v Speaker 1>around the world. Terogram is dead. Kind of but it's

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<v Speaker 1>not really something you can kill. It can kill you,

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<v Speaker 1>but you can't kill an idea. This particular network operating

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<v Speaker 1>under this name and with these particulars leaders, that's gone.

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<v Speaker 1>The virus is still spreading in the dark corners of

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<v Speaker 1>the Internet. People are posting fan adits of mass shooting

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<v Speaker 1>live streams and egging each other on, asking each other

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<v Speaker 1>who is going to be the one to get the

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