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Speaker 1: You're listening to DraftKings Network, the John Nick and Kenny

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Speaker 1: Florian Podcast, John Annick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 2: I love him.

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Speaker 3: I can't get enough of him.

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Speaker 2: Let's hear that booth front, the.

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Speaker 4: Job, the Cooktufian prep rock.

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Speaker 5: I don't believe there are a couple of absolutely self involved.

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Speaker 6: Here are your hosts, John Nick and Kenny Florian. That's

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Speaker 6: all why good be with you.

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Speaker 7: Thursday June fifteenth, Episode four sixteen of the Anakim Florian

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Speaker 7: podcast presented by DraftKings.

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Speaker 6: Ray Longo has a fucking pen.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I had to write something down the.

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Speaker 7: First time in nearly four hundred and twenty episodes of

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Speaker 7: the show, You Got a penny? Is this your preparation

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Speaker 7: for the podcast or is this something totally unrelated?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 5: No, no, definitely no for the podcast. But the fact

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Speaker 5: that I'm actually forgetting what I'm writing down is not

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Speaker 5: It's pretty scary.

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Speaker 6: What did you just write down?

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Speaker 2: Ray? I forgot that noon as opponent's name.

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Speaker 6: Okay, that's preparation, though it shows.

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Speaker 5: You got Wifeause garsso keeps popping into my head and

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Speaker 5: I can't whatever, but I got it.

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Speaker 2: I can understand. I'm good to go.

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Speaker 7: So ray Longo just wrote down to rein A al

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Speaker 7: Donna because he wants to be prepared to talk to

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Speaker 7: the great Roger Crawl, chief corner of Amanda News, who's

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Speaker 7: going to join us shortly here on the program and

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Speaker 7: coming up in about twenty minutes. We will also be

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Speaker 7: joined by UFC welter Rate welterweight proper Mike Malot. I

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Speaker 7: can't stop saying that name in a Boston accent. Ten

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Speaker 7: one and one for Mike Bellott after a huge win

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Speaker 7: in UFC two eighty nine. Will get into some other

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Speaker 7: stuff on Amanda new Nes and then ray Longo is

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Speaker 7: hitting the pavement to Atlantic City, New Jersey. Charlie Campbell,

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Speaker 7: Damian Nelson, Dennis Bezooka all set to be featured, and

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Speaker 7: we were talking a little bit before the show. So

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Speaker 7: Kyle Dakas is fighting in the co headliner at ANAC

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Speaker 7: this weekend.

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Speaker 2: Pretty exciting and also Aljil will be inducted into the

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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 6: How about that hall of fame. This hall of fame.

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Speaker 2: Okay, any hall of fame is good.

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Speaker 6: Right, You're in a hall of fame, aren't you?

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Speaker 2: Maybe?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, at least one no, won't remind me, because I

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Speaker 6: know we talked about this.

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Speaker 2: Now we might have been.

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Speaker 5: I might be in the Jersey Hall of Fame, but

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Speaker 5: actually never went to pick up my awards, so I

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Speaker 5: don't know.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, well, we all talk about a brick and mortar

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Speaker 7: mixed Martial arts Hall of Fame one day that isn't

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Speaker 7: just the UFC Hall of Fame. So the guys like

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Speaker 7: you and Roger Crawl can get acknowledged because joining us

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Speaker 7: right now here on the Anaic and Florian podcast.

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Speaker 6: Sorry no Kenflow.

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Speaker 7: By the way, operators today was the chief corner for

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Speaker 7: the now retired greatest of all time, Amanda noon As,

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Speaker 7: and he is in Las Vegas back in the UFC

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Speaker 7: corner this weekend, the great Roger Crawl is with us.

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Speaker 6: Roger, what's up, my man?

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Speaker 2: Hey? Are we doing guys? What's up? Coach? What's up? John? Hey?

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Speaker 2: What's up? Roger?

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Speaker 8: We're rising mojo into the week, man, We're riding this

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Speaker 8: championship mojo in the fight week.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's awesome. Congratulations, Thank you, coach, appreciate it. Man. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: they I'm here in my room. I tried to you know, John,

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Speaker 2: I think you know this.

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Speaker 8: I'm not a computer tech savvy guy with my phone,

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Speaker 8: Like the girls made fun of me all last week. Coach,

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Speaker 8: we're sending you all the time. I'm like, I can't

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Speaker 8: even open anything. My phone is like five years old.

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Speaker 8: My laptop won't do the Google Chrome downloads. I'm now,

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Speaker 8: I'm on my phone, but I'm here.

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Speaker 2: I made it.

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Speaker 6: I made it fine.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll tell you how bad I am, Roger. I

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Speaker 5: don't even know what you're talking about. Google crawl. I

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Speaker 5: means absolutely zero to me. So you ever had a

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Speaker 5: bank you got me beat? Yeah, I'm telling you, man,

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Speaker 5: I'm lost on this stuff. But I'm glad I see you.

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Speaker 5: I guess half my face here. I'm trying to turn

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Speaker 8: Getting there, get getting the sunlight in there.

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Speaker 7: You know, Roger, this is our four hundred and sixteenth show.

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Speaker 7: Ray has been on almost every one of those, and

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Speaker 7: there have been varying efforts over the years to get

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Speaker 7: him the proper equipment. But you know, Ray Longo just

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Speaker 7: does his own thing, so we take whatever version shows up.

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Speaker 7: But today he's on time, he's got headphones, so we're

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Speaker 7: we're very happy, but we're very Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I feel better, Jo, because I feel like there's somebody

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Speaker 2: That the Hey, I'm minus the headphones. I don't even

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Speaker 3: This is this is real. This is what real is.

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Speaker 3: You want some bullshit cookie cutter crapping is real. Let's go, Roger,

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Speaker 3: Let's light them up. Sorry interrupted, John, Sorry.

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Speaker 7: You A good ray though, can be a little bit

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Speaker 7: hypocritical Roger because sometimes when I how to talk about

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Speaker 6: You know, I like the free flow. I like the

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Speaker 7: You're still basketing the glow obviously just a few days

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Speaker 7: And for those who don't know, Roger is cornering Ronnie

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Speaker 7: Lawrence this weekend at the UFC. By the way, man,

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Speaker 7: second fight of the night, is that right? Second prelim?

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Speaker 8: That's right, man. But hey, the he's going to start

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Speaker 8: pay per view cards. Obviously had a bad, bad fight

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Speaker 8: the last fight, you know, kind ofly only I mean

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Speaker 2: Man, this kid had a staff infection.

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Speaker 8: We should have pulled them from the fight, but we

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Speaker 8: tough decision, you know, three three and one now in

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Speaker 8: and we're looking for something special on Saturday, I'll make

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Speaker 7: Ray, I know is going to get into Amanda Nunez

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Speaker 7: Ronnie to heat Lawrence if I could, because in preparation

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Speaker 7: I think, Roger, and because you might get some help,

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Speaker 7: right like my son has feeding issues, and no sooner

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Speaker 7: sort of tell us what you know about this, so

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Speaker 7: direct quote from Ronnie Lawrence. The last two or three years,

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Speaker 7: I couldn't figure it out, but I kept getting what

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Speaker 8: Man, I'll tell you what. This is most definitely the

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Speaker 2: This kid's gonna be able to get in there and perform.

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Speaker 8: You know, knowing what he does in the training room,

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Speaker 2: As as coach because I didn't pull the fight. But

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Speaker 8: Kid literally did it three out of the four UFC

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Speaker 8: Now we got his train. He was doing a ton

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll tell you, Rodger, I'm sure there's nothing more

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Speaker 5: frustrating when you know what your guy could do. But

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Speaker 5: up to thirty surgeries thirty, right, I mean it's insane,

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Speaker 5: Like I don't know if he ever fought one fight healthy,

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Speaker 5: you know, But you can't say that because then people

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Speaker 5: was in good shape. Like I'm gonna start telling you

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Speaker 5: what his injuries are now before the fight, like it does'

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Speaker 5: you know what I mean, Like you're damned if you

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Speaker 5: do you're damned if you don't don't. But sometimes right, yeah,

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Speaker 5: that's how it is, and sometimes doesn't make an excuse

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Speaker 2: It really does.

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Speaker 5: So hadds off to Ronald Lawns because he looks like

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Speaker 6: It's insane what you guys go through.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well Dan and Nisanto, who was like big talk.

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Speaker 8: Yeah he signed my certificate for fifth degree. So yeah,

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Speaker 8: talking about love it, love it, that's the that's the

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Speaker 8: old school, man, that's right.

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Speaker 5: Say we're leaving people in the dog right now. But

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Speaker 5: those were no those John, those were really good times

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Speaker 5: to me, man. Everything was new and fresh and you know, uh,

446
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Speaker 5: the seminars were always doing you know, like I did.

447
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Speaker 5: I always thought was probably the best martial artist I've

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Speaker 5: ever seen in my life only because he.

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Speaker 2: Yets phenomenal.

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Speaker 5: And started doing jiu jitsu with the machado's probably in

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Speaker 5: his late sixties, which is crazy, right, you know, maybe

452
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Speaker 5: you're very earlier, but yeah, great times back then, man,

453
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Speaker 5: really good time.

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Speaker 8: So no, it's actually the guys go ahead, Roger, go ahead,

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Speaker 8: go ahead. You know I'm saying you like that from

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Speaker 8: that era have kind of a foresight without a doubt. Sorry,

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Speaker 8: so I'm on my phone, like I said, because I

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Speaker 8: couldn't down the thing on my laptop. But uh, those

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Speaker 8: guys in that era that had the foresight to kind

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Speaker 8: of maybe forecast a little bit the evolution of MMA, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, just one hundred.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, and even I came from a school, a karate school,

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Speaker 8: like a sport karate school in upstate New York. A

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Speaker 8: guy Steve Lavalley who was a black Day sure from

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Speaker 8: the lineage Ed Parker really but even in those days

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Speaker 8: in the early eighties, you know, he was you know,

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Speaker 8: boxing and my coaches were kickboxing for PK.

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Speaker 2: And it's like, you know, I think my first seminar

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Speaker 2: I ever went to was like.

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Speaker 8: Joe Lewis, you know, as a kid, sure, you know,

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Speaker 8: just to see from that era, you know, from those

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Speaker 8: days to what we have now just as insane, you

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Speaker 8: know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: But it's you know, yeah, so that's a great Daggerberg.

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Speaker 2: That was twenty fifteen.

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Speaker 8: I think I went there for a weekend and they

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Speaker 8: had a whole big ceremony and I was promoted by

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Speaker 8: all those you know, kind of og martial arts legends.

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Speaker 5: I would yeah, that's crazy, man. I really loved those days,

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Speaker 5: and I like, you're right, I was more of a

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Speaker 5: renegade because I wasn't.

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Speaker 2: Really like that.

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Speaker 5: The other b yeah, you know, but uh even Lavali

484
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Speaker 5: had a big name. You know, Kempo was a great

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Speaker 5: It was a great style too. I loved, you know,

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Speaker 5: but my first partner was a m Yeah. It was

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Speaker 5: a good style, Yeah, awesome, really cool.

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Speaker 6: Ray And I went back not a follower.

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Speaker 5: Well you know, you know how it was Roger. You know,

490
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Speaker 5: guys would do seminars, guys were following them all over

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Speaker 5: the place. But you know, I just was never that.

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Speaker 5: I always knew there's always a better way, and I

493
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Speaker 5: thought that was the Jacondo way, you know, always to

494
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Speaker 5: look and you know, improve on your attributes and ship

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Speaker 5: like that. So it kind of worked out me. I'm

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Speaker 5: happy the man.

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Speaker 8: Like you know, obviously you know the g Cando, the

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Speaker 8: Bruce Lee system, which you know Ed Parker really was

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Speaker 8: the guy responsible for bringing Bruce Lee to the United States.

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Speaker 8: But these were guys that were like, you know, and

501
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Speaker 8: these guys were principal based, you know, they were based

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Speaker 8: on not you know the name of the moves or

503
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Speaker 8: what the movie was, but how can I make this move?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 8: They were so open minded, not like closed mind like

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Speaker 8: back in those days, man, it was still like, well,

507
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Speaker 8: our style is better than your style, and this is

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Speaker 8: the way way before ninety three in the UF, this

509
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Speaker 8: was you know, back when I'm gonna come to their

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Speaker 8: dojo on a Saturday and you know what I mean,

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Speaker 8: We're gonna we're gonna.

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Speaker 2: Do battle, you know.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, yeah, it was.

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Speaker 2: It was very principles of this.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, yes, for sure, from from a from a genre

516
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Speaker 8: when it was just like, you know, this style is

517
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Speaker 8: the only style and that's it, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: So that's yeah, obviously not with it. Yeah, yeah, I

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Speaker 2: love it. Awesome it When I sho man, it brought

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Speaker 2: me right to that.

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Speaker 5: I was like, wow, this is seminars everybody used to

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Speaker 5: be out to that place like everybody.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, he had at one point man the biggest academy,

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Speaker 8: like he had man over a thousand students in Chicago.

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Speaker 2: I think what back in the nineties.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, because when I when I first came to South

527
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Speaker 8: Florida was ninety too, and I started working at a

528
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Speaker 8: guy's karate school, East West Karate guy named Greg Silva.

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Speaker 8: And at that point it was the Dagnberg was like

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Speaker 8: number one and we were number two as far as

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Speaker 8: dojo's like commercial, as far as the size of like the.

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Speaker 2: Dojo and stuff, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 8: But you know that was that was kind of short

534
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Speaker 8: lived because it ends up being like a you know,

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Speaker 8: a factory of belts and just you know, not not

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Speaker 8: something I wanted to not something I wanted.

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Speaker 2: To really do.

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Speaker 8: I knew I wanted to make a living at martial arts,

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Speaker 8: but you know, not at the cost of you know,

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Speaker 8: having a bunch of twelve year old black belts running

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Speaker 8: around that don't even know how to fun.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I never got the commercialization side down to my school level.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this day, it's yeah, I keep my mind small now.

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Speaker 8: Family base, have a great, great team, great coaches, and

546
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Speaker 8: just you know, trying to teach you know, more, way

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Speaker 8: more than just the martial arts skills, but bringing up

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Speaker 8: this new generation of kids and just teaching them the

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Speaker 8: martial arts a way and the discipline, respect and everything

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Speaker 8: that goes along with That's what we're about down here,

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Speaker 8: you know. Yeah, man.

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Speaker 7: And if you want to see my son Hunter, four

553
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Speaker 7: years old, at the MMA Science Academy next week, Sunrise, Florida.

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Speaker 7: And if you want to follow Roger on Instagram, I

555
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Speaker 7: would go to at MMA Science Academy.

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Speaker 6: Roger. You know, we go way back. You've been at

557
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Speaker 6: this a long time.

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Speaker 7: A lot of people know you from way back when

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Speaker 7: American Top Team Sunrise no longer affiliated. It's the MMA

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Speaker 7: Science Academy. This man has been added forever. And you know,

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Speaker 7: I was so excited when Amanda aligned with you to

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Speaker 7: this extent. And I'm just so happy to see you know,

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Speaker 7: her right off into the sunset with you right right

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Speaker 7: there alongside. So congratulations, enjoy it, get a fucking w

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Speaker 7: with Ronnie Lawrenson.

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Speaker 6: We'll see You'll see you at the Academy next week.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, buddy, good luck this weekend. Pleasure man, pleasure

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Speaker 2: awesome man.

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Speaker 10: Thank you guys, there is Roger with us here on

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Speaker 10: the Anticonmploring podcast and Ray Longo trying to get Ken

571
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Speaker 10: Flow fired by doing research on Roger Crawlton.

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Speaker 6: That I mean, did you dig in deep?

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Speaker 7: Man?

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Speaker 6: I'm impressed I got you.

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Speaker 2: Back for last week when I stood there like a momo.

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Speaker 7: And to say a word, all right, Well, I know

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Speaker 7: I have fifteen more minutes with Longo, So we're very

578
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Speaker 7: excited for him to be a part of our next

579
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Speaker 7: conversation because now with us on the guest line and

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Speaker 7: with us of course right on the screws at his

581
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Speaker 7: scheduled time, because everything he does he does right. One

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Speaker 7: of the big stars last weekend at UFC two to

583
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Speaker 7: eighty nine UFC welterweight contender proper, Mike Belott. I'm just

584
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Speaker 7: excited seeing your face. I can call you a welterweight contender,

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Speaker 7: even if it's a number sixteen or seventeen that I

586
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Speaker 7: don't see on my UFC rankings. Congrats on a huge

587
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Speaker 7: weekend man. Obviously there was a lot of pressure on

588
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Speaker 7: you to perform, and we're very happy it went the

589
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Speaker 7: way it did. How have the few days since UFC

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Speaker 7: two eighty nine been for you brother.

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Speaker 11: Thanks for having me on. Gentlemen, it's cool to be

592
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Speaker 11: ant here and long goo.

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Speaker 2: Thanks.

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Speaker 5: Let's I will say one thing. You have to have

595
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Speaker 5: a hard time selling anybody you're a fighter. This is

596
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Speaker 5: a model we got to go. It looks like a

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Speaker 5: guy from Ralph Lauren. I mean, this is grazy now,

598
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Speaker 5: but congratuated. I thought you looked fantastic and I think

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Speaker 5: what I'm watching you fight, I'm thinking, GSP man. I

600
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,919
Speaker 5: think you're really and with with more finishing skills, believe

601
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Speaker 5: it or not. So I think you're right on the money. Man,

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Speaker 5: I love watching your fight.

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Speaker 11: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: That means a lot.

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Speaker 11: That's that's that's really nice to say. Man, thank you. Sorry,

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Speaker 11: what was the question, John?

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Speaker 2: So?

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Speaker 7: I guess I'm just curious, like, in some respects, it's

609
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Speaker 7: like walking into your new life, right. I mean, I know,

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Speaker 7: I'm sure you're getting stopped in Canada at times, but uh,

611
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Speaker 7: you know, this show and a lot of respects was

612
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Speaker 7: built about around what you could do in your nation,

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Speaker 7: and obviously the five athletes that competed before you held

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Speaker 7: serve as well. But how does it feel to sort

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Speaker 7: of live up to the hype and walk out the

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Speaker 7: other side.

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Speaker 11: It feels amazing, you know, Like we talked about it

618
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Speaker 11: a lot fight week, just the gratitude for the moment

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Speaker 11: in general and the opportunity, like that's something I've been

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Speaker 11: wanting to do since I was thirteen years old. That

621
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Speaker 11: there's you know, wind loser draw. That was a dream

622
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Speaker 11: come true, being able to be on a pay per

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Speaker 11: view and represent my country on the world stage at home,

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Speaker 11: and then kind of to throw some extra privilege and

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Speaker 11: potentially some some pressure on top of that, is like

626
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Speaker 11: I'm the last Canadian, I'm the one holding it down.

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Speaker 11: It's pretty clear that I was kind of the one

628
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Speaker 11: being marketed as like this is the Canadian maybe we

629
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Speaker 11: should be be watching. You know. From the UFC's perspective,

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Speaker 11: it seemed like they really were trying to push me,

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Speaker 11: and I'm super grateful for that, and man, I'm so

632
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Speaker 11: glad it went well. But you know, it's like, you know,

633
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Speaker 11: you try to just keep things in mind, like, of

634
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Speaker 11: course the crowd's going to play a factor, and for me,

635
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Speaker 11: it plays like it played a positive factor. I love

636
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Speaker 11: performing in front of people, and and you know, part

637
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Speaker 11: of me was thinking, like, Okay, it's going to be

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Speaker 11: a big crowd, and even when I walked out there,

639
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Speaker 11: I'm like, I visualized it bigger I can go. I

640
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 11: can go a lot bigger. I can go a lot bigger.

641
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Speaker 11: Like we might have to do the Rogers Center in

642
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Speaker 11: Toronto at some point and do fifty five thousand again

643
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Speaker 11: like they did for UFC, you know, work twenty nine, Like, right,

644
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Speaker 11: I could do that. I could double this easily, you know,

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Speaker 11: But but it was it was amazing, man. It felt

646
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Speaker 11: so good to walk out there, aside from you know,

647
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Speaker 11: the fans almost taking me out on the initial walk,

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Speaker 11: you know, once we got past that, it felt amazing, man,

649
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Speaker 11: Like feeling that support from the crowd, feeling the support

650
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Speaker 11: from the fans and and everything all week leading up

651
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Speaker 11: to the event, like you know, we couldn't leave the

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Speaker 11: hotel lobby without having a ton of fans come and

653
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Speaker 11: saying like, hey man, we believe in you, were happy

654
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Speaker 11: for you, we're excited to watch you. And you know,

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Speaker 11: you can go a couple of ways with that and

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Speaker 11: view it as pressure or viewed as privilege, and you know,

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Speaker 11: we were just all week long like pressures of privilege.

658
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 11: This this is you know, a blessing to have this opportunity,

659
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 11: and I just got in there and felt really loose,

660
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 11: like it didn't feel like the moment was overwhelming at all,

661
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 11: of course, like you know, fight weeks a lot and

662
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 11: fight day is a lot, and everyone has you know,

663
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 11: ups and downs throughout the day, and you know, good

664
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 11: moments and bad moments. But we put so much work

665
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 11: into the mental preparation for this fight and then the

666
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 11: physical preparation, Like the fight before the February twenty fifth

667
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 11: fight was the best I'd ever prepared for a fight,

668
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 11: and I was like, man, is it ever going to

669
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 11: get better than this? Like is this as good as

670
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,959
Speaker 11: it's ever going to get? And this last camp blew

671
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 11: it out of the water, like we found so many

672
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 11: little things to adjust to make things, to make the

673
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 11: camp so much better. I was like, oh no, I'm

674
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 11: so much better prepared for this fight than I was

675
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 11: to fight before. And the fight before that had been

676
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 11: my best performance to date, and I felt like this

677
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 11: one was probably my best performance to date.

678
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 7: At one point, one of our producers asked if Mike

679
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 7: Billott had in the rail and collapse. I said, are

680
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 7: you kidding me? You see the kid's agility, Like absolutely,

681
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 7: he thought, and We're very thankful that you know that

682
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 7: only became the storyline that it did. I have so

683
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 7: many things I want to get into with you, and

684
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 7: I promise I'm gonna let Ray Longo get in here.

685
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 7: But in terms of this particular physical challenge in Adam Fugett, right,

686
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 7: Sometimes there's a negative connotation when somebody says Showcase fight right,

687
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 7: and it can mean, oh, Mike Mallot's a six to

688
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 7: one favorite to beat Adam Fuget long ago.

689
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 6: That better not be your fucking dog.

690
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 11: Well, I'm in a car, man, it's not mine.

691
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 2: He's doing an interview from an uber. How big can

692
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 2: I possibly be?

693
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 6: All right, I'm gonna try to stay on track.

694
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 7: So Adam Fugut though, so your minus two hundred, so

695
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 7: it's not as though you're some overwhelming betting favorite. Adam

696
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 7: Fugen's a good fighter, albeit not with a wealth of

697
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 7: UFC experience, right, So, like I felt like you handled

698
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 7: this fight exceedingly well. You said to us, you know,

699
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 7: he's got no major holes. But I believe I can

700
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 7: you know for some mistake, and you certainly did. But

701
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 7: what were your overall thoughts on the short fight that

702
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 7: we did see here?

703
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 11: So kind of the fight. Before the fight, like you

704
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 11: guys were asking me, he made some fair points where

705
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 11: he's like, look, everyone's kind of counting me out, but

706
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 11: I think it's kind of an even fight I saw,

707
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 11: And he's like, I see a lot of you know, afterwards,

708
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 11: watching some of his interviews, I you know, I don't

709
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 11: pay too much attention to what my opponents are doing.

710
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 11: I prefer to focus on myself. So I went back

711
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 11: and watched some interviews and just kind of, you know,

712
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 11: been focusing, you know, on things we can do moving

713
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 11: forward throughout the fight. So to him say, he's like,

714
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 11: we're actually like kind of similar fighters in certain ways,

715
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 11: and there are like some distinct differences, but I do

716
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 11: see a lot of similarities between us. And you know,

717
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 11: he is a very high level fighter, and like you said,

718
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 11: he doesn't have a lot of UFC experience, But he

719
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 11: had the same number of fights as I did, right,

720
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 11: So we both had two fights in the UFC. He's

721
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 11: actually had considerably more UFC cage time than I have. Right,

722
00:32:56,160 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 11: he had the three rounds with morales h Take on

723
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 11: short notice, a fight that I had him winning. I

724
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 11: had him up two rounds going into the third a

725
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 11: fight that he took on nine days notice, and he's

726
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 11: a big welterweight, Like he struggled to make weight for

727
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 11: our fight. He was the last guy away and he

728
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 11: looked drawn out from what I'd heard. So, you know,

729
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 11: like you take a fight on nine days notice against

730
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 11: a twelve and oh kid, your first time in the

731
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,479
Speaker 11: UFC on a pay per view in front of a crowd,

732
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 11: You've got to lose all that weight nine days. You

733
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 11: don't get to train for it. Like that's a lot

734
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 11: to deal with and to still have an excellent performance

735
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 11: against like a good guy. Yeah, that tells me a lot. Right,

736
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 11: he's a multi champion, he's a you know, came from

737
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 11: a muyti who's a multi champion that also comes from

738
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 11: a wrestling background. You know that's like, dude, that's a

739
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 11: that's a well rounded guy and a round jiu jitsu

740
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 11: like competed in professional jiu jitsu for submission underground. Like, dude, Okay,

741
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 11: this guy has every box check. It's not like this

742
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 11: guy is athletic with power and a good sprawl. Like,

743
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 11: this guy's got right answers everywhere, right, plus the physical

744
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 11: the physical boxes that he checks. He's got a seventy

745
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 11: seven inch reach. He's south paw, he's technical, but he's

746
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 11: also kind of like awkward. It's like, dude, those are

747
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 11: like those are tough things to deal with, right, So

748
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 11: so there was a lot going into this, and then

749
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 11: to add on top of that, like no one, no

750
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 11: one in Canada's given this guy a shot. He's not

751
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 11: a well known name, so people are thinking it's a

752
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 11: showcase fight, like, oh, they're just teeing mallowed up for

753
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 11: a for an easy win. It's like, dude, this is

754
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 11: the UFC. There aren't easy wins. This guy's good. This

755
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 11: is a legit fight. And then just add that pressure

756
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 11: of like, okay, everyone's expecting me to walk through them.

757
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 11: So even if I win like a close decision or

758
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 11: a close back and forth fight, like that's gonna seem underwhelming.

759
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 2: You know.

760
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 11: So there was some pressure to like put on a

761
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 11: serious performance, you know, and on top of that, like

762
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 11: where's your career going to go after and some some

763
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 11: some sponsors and you know, we started working with the

764
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 11: Milk Boys. That was just getting ironed out. So I'm like, okay,

765
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 11: well I need to put on a good performance to

766
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 11: make sure this stays and you know, some good thing's

767
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 11: happened in my future. But also at the same time

768
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 11: of like, you know, we talked about acknowledging every potential outcome.

769
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,320
Speaker 11: It's like, dude, I love my life and the outcome

770
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 11: of a fight isn't going to change the things that

771
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 11: truly matter to me. You know, I get to do this.

772
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 11: This is a privilege. At the end of the day,

773
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 11: I have an amazing family, I have an amazing fiance.

774
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 11: I do what I love every single day with people

775
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 11: that I love. I love my coaches are like the

776
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 11: people I'm closest with in my life. So every morning

777
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 11: I get to wake up and do my favorite thing,

778
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 11: perfect martial arts, with my favorite people, and I get

779
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 11: to come home to my family and my fiance every day.

780
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 11: Like an outcome of a fight's not going to change that.

781
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 11: The only thing it can do is like add to

782
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 11: it and ensure that I get to continue to do

783
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 11: this with my life. So you know, I try to

784
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 11: shift the perspective and recognize, you know, the privilege that's

785
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 11: in front of me, and then you know, let go

786
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 11: of everything and be like, look, man, at the end

787
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,839
Speaker 11: of the day, there's rankings, there's money, there's this, there's that.

788
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 11: It's just a fistfight in a cage. So get in

789
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 11: there and fight this, dude. You know, a fight I have.

790
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 11: I feel like I understand. I feel like I understand

791
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 11: MMA really well. And coaching for a long time at

792
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 11: Team Alpha Male, I think helped with that a lot,

793
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 11: helping me. Yeah, I think, you know, I might have

794
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:23,919
Speaker 11: done it a little bit backwards. You know, most most

795
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 11: guys are fighters and then get into coaching, so I

796
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 11: kind of did it a little bit backwards for most guys.

797
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,320
Speaker 11: But I feel like there was a lot of value

798
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 11: in those years of coaching, a lot of value in

799
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 11: those years of planning with teammates and planning for fighters

800
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 11: and making those twenty some odd walks as a UFC

801
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 11: coach before getting into Contender Series myself, there was a

802
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 11: lot of value in that. In the walk this time again,

803
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 11: other than the almost accident, at the beginning, felt very

804
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 11: familiar and it felt very comforting, Like I felt very

805
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 11: calm on the walk, And as we got closer to

806
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:01,399
Speaker 11: the fight, the more locks I got, and once Bruce,

807
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 11: once you know, Bruce Buffer called my name, and once

808
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 11: you know, Big Dan said, all right, you ready, you ready,

809
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 11: It's like, buddy, I've never been more ready. Tell me

810
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 11: to go do that.

811
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,919
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I tell you a lot, lots a lot

812
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 5: to unpack there, I believe in. But what really beautifully

813
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 5: put well said, man you're at I could tell you're

814
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 5: a grounded guy. You're in a good spot. Your priorities

815
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 5: are in line. But the thing with the teaching, and

816
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 5: I make my fighters teach because you know that the

817
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 5: old saying. You want to get good at something teaching

818
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 5: and it will help you become bulletproof in every area

819
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 5: that you're teaching. So for what you did, go like

820
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 5: you said, doing it backwards. Man, I think you looking superb.

821
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,800
Speaker 5: Your head's on the right, your head's in the right spot. Technically,

822
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 5: I think you look great. I mean, I don't know,

823
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 5: you've got a great career ahead. And I kind of

824
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 5: like the way you did it because I think it

825
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 5: makes logical sense. And I tell you, I think even

826
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 5: Al Joe teaching at the school, he would go over the.

827
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 2: Things that he wants to work on too.

828
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 5: You know that a part of MMA's made them better

829
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 5: and better. Why And I remember before we even maybe

830
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 5: he had one or two fights, I took him the

831
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 5: corner with me just so we got used to the UFC.

832
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 2: I wanted to experience that.

833
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 5: Like you said, by the time, you'll walk, and you

834
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 5: already made that walk twenty times, you know what I mean.

835
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 2: I think it's a fantastic story.

836
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 5: Love it. Love listening to your talk. I think you're

837
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:23,760
Speaker 5: dead on with everything you're saying. Definitely, yeah, really good stuff.

838
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 7: Man, Ray, I know you got to get to the gym.

839
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 7: Get on out of here. I'm gonna spend ten more

840
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 7: minutes with Mike Mallott. We'll talk to you get on Monday.

841
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 7: You're the fucking man.

842
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 5: West and Mike. Really was a pleasure. Love listening to

843
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 5: your talk. I'm glad I got a chance to stay

844
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 5: on and hear your story. I think it's fantastic. Keep

845
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 5: doing what you're doing. You're the GSP of Canada right

846
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 5: now to me. Keep it going, buddy, and keep your

847
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 5: priorities in order like you already have. All right, guys,

848
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 5: I'm out thinking easy, John.

849
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 2: Thank you.

850
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 7: Yes, you walked away, Mike a lot staying with us

851
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 7: here on the Anakin Florian podcast, and as your fights

852
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 7: get bigger, we'll be able to tell more of your story.

853
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 7: Right in terms of this passion to compete being reignited,

854
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,879
Speaker 7: right because you first set foot of Team Alpha Male

855
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 7: in twenty fifteen and correct, at that point in time,

856
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,800
Speaker 7: it was the goal was to get to the UFC

857
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 7: right then and there, and at some point there was

858
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 7: a pivot.

859
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:17,240
Speaker 11: Yes, yeah, yeah, So I first got down to Alpha

860
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 11: Male twenty fifteen as a featherweight, which is funny to

861
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 11: look back on and think about that, but walking.

862
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 6: Monster at one hundred and forty five pounds.

863
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 11: Folks, Yeah, it was. It was weird.

864
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 2: Man.

865
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 11: I was a bit of a late bloomer and just

866
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 11: started my career at at forty five and it made

867
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 11: sense at the time. And then just every year it's

868
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 11: like two pounds, two pounds, two pounds, And by the

869
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 11: time I had my last fight, I was like, I

870
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 11: never doing this again. Man, We're going We're going up.

871
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 11: And yeah, man, I feel a lot more comfortable well to.

872
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 2: Weight, like.

873
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 11: I like this weight class for me.

874
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 2: I liked this.

875
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 11: I've felt great competing at this weight class. But yeah,

876
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 11: the goals shifted, you know. I got down to Alpha

877
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 11: Male with the intention of becoming a world champion and

878
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 11: getting into the UFC and chasing those dreams, and I

879
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 11: guess the kind of the goalpost shifted at a certain

880
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 11: point where I maybe I felt burnt out and my

881
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 11: priorities changed, and I just went from being a young,

882
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 11: invincible kid to just feeling like just I honestly just

883
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 11: didn't want to do it anymore. I got to a

884
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 11: point where I was like, dude, I just like I'm

885
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 11: about just you know, I'm looking for a fight because

886
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 11: I feel like that's the next logical thing to do. Like, Okay, well,

887
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 11: if I win another fight, maybe I get called to

888
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,280
Speaker 11: the UFC, And like that idea didn't excite me anymore.

889
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 11: I was like, all right, well, how long do I

890
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,399
Speaker 11: have to do that before I get to stop doing that.

891
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 11: It was like the point that I got to I

892
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 11: was like, dude, this isn't baseball, man, this isn't this

893
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 11: isn't soccer. Like, if you're not enjoying this, don't do this.

894
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 11: And I was, and I was making eight hundred and

895
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 11: eight hundred dollars right at the time, Like you're writting

896
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 11: all this work in and doing all this stuff for

897
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 11: you know, by the time you pay everybody and costs

898
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 11: of camp, you're in negative every time, right, So it's like,

899
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:08,320
Speaker 11: why am I doing this and luckily got into coaching

900
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 11: and Faber and had a role for me, and I

901
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,280
Speaker 11: got to just live a dream life for a while,

902
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,720
Speaker 11: helping my friends and travel in the world and training

903
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 11: and learning new things and you know, messing up in

904
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 11: the corner and having fun. I was telling one of

905
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 11: my corner men yesterday. So it was his first time

906
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 11: cornering in the UFC. Right, he's an elite level jiu

907
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 11: jitsu coach, and he's been a jiu jitsu coach for

908
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 11: a long time. He's been working with me for a

909
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 11: few years, and he's been for a long time for

910
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 11: like ten years, but he's been working more with mixed

911
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 11: martial artists the last like three years, four years, and

912
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,359
Speaker 11: this was first time cornering at the UFC. I kind

913
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 11: of actually, like Ray said, I brought him with me

914
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 11: to California to train and then coach some guys that

915
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 11: he didn't know. I'm like, just make make the walk

916
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 11: with me a few times, especially because you're going to

917
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 11: start coaching more and more, Like get comfortable, do like

918
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 11: one hundred walks to fights, even if they're amateur fights,

919
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,800
Speaker 11: right gate, and you'll be more comfortable. So it was

920
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 11: his first time coaching at the UFC, and he's such

921
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 11: a like, good hearted, honest guy and he's like, man,

922
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 11: I just want to do well. I want to make sure.

923
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 11: I'm like, dude, you're going to do great, don't worry

924
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 11: about it. Chatting after, he's like, yeah, you know, this

925
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 11: is how I thought he did well. These are things

926
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,800
Speaker 11: I want to work on, or you know, maybe I'm overthinking.

927
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 11: I'm like, dude, you're overthinking it. You did a great job,

928
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 11: and I'm like, you did way better than I did.

929
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 11: The first time I went between rounds as a coach

930
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 11: in the UFC, the first time I went between rounds

931
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 11: as a coach was with when Darren Elkins fought Alexander Volkanovski.

932
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 11: So first things first, let's talk about my my first

933
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:45,240
Speaker 11: three corner experience, right right right, first fight, Truttoshihara fights

934
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 11: some unknown Russian guy named Pyotr Jan making his UFC

935
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:52,839
Speaker 11: debut brutal round. The second one, Darren Alkins, who's ranked

936
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 11: at the time on a six fight win streak, takes

937
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:58,720
Speaker 11: a fight against an unknown Australian Alexander Volkanowski White number three.

938
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 11: Cody garb Brandt's first title again against TJ. Della shop.

939
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 11: I'm like, damn it, man, like you just like get

940
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:12,320
Speaker 11: somebody please. But yeah, So second fight, I'm cornering Elkins.

941
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 11: The first fight I cornered didn't go between rounds. Second

942
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 11: fight is the Elkins fight, And with like five seconds

943
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:20,800
Speaker 11: left in the fight or in the round the first round,

944
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 11: Elkins gets caught badly and gets like held up by

945
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 11: the cage kind of covers up for a second, and

946
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 11: the ref jumps in. I'm the third guy, right like

947
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 11: I'm number three. So the other two coaches go in

948
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,359
Speaker 11: and one guy stays out of the cage, and I'm

949
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,399
Speaker 11: like looking at Elkins, I'm like, is he okay? He's wobbly? Shit,

950
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:39,839
Speaker 11: he's wobbling? Is here? Is he all right?

951
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 2: All right?

952
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 11: They're getting him on the stool, Okay, he's Is he hurt?

953
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,919
Speaker 11: Is he hurt? And I'm like what am I doing?

954
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 11: I'm still in the corner, get up behind the cage.

955
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,320
Speaker 11: Like fifteen seconds like I was so like shit, is

956
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,240
Speaker 11: he hurt? To really like it took me like fifteen

957
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 11: seconds to realize, like, oh, I'm supposed to be up

958
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 11: behind the cage. Bolt up the stairs, and right as

959
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 11: I get there, Danny's like and then this lot go

960
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 11: and did just realize that I had just gotten there?

961
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,240
Speaker 11: Like okay, cool, nobody realized this gave him some advice?

962
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 6: How about that?

963
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 7: You know you're making me want to go to fight

964
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 7: pass and rewatch it and it Actually now I can

965
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 7: acknowledge that you are human because I don't say this

966
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 7: to butter you up, but like, dude, you have ice

967
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 7: water in your veins and perhaps literally, I know you

968
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 7: triple down on the cold exposure during training CAIP. You

969
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 7: told us that, and it helps you sort of deal

970
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 7: with all the different things that come with fighting a

971
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 7: man in a cage for a living bit bro, like

972
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 7: you just seem at least right now. And we'll see

973
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 7: as the fights get bigger main events and we'll talk

974
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 7: about that. But you see, either immune to pressure or

975
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 7: whatever the fuck you have done mentally to get yourself

976
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 7: to be calm and deal with that pressure, keep fucking

977
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 7: doing it. Because I know I'm not a fighter, but

978
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 7: I've called almost three hundred UFC live events and i

979
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 7: am performing.

980
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 5: Right.

981
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 7: It's a different nerve, right, or adrenaline that I'm dealing

982
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,439
Speaker 7: with on show day, right. But whatever you're doing, bro,

983
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:59,760
Speaker 7: you seemingly have mastered the mental if I can say that.

984
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 11: Thank you. I put a lot of work into it.

985
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 11: So my mental coach and I, Danny Patterson, have been

986
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 11: working together for over eleven years, and I think of

987
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 11: him as absolutely valuable as every other coach that I

988
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 11: have to my game, like in the same way that

989
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 11: I wouldn't go I think I mentioned this in the

990
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 11: broadcast meeting, right, I wouldn't go into a fight without

991
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 11: a jiu jitsu coach and training my jiu jitsu. It's

992
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 11: the same thing for me with my mental game, Like

993
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 11: even you know, I put a lot into it.

994
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 8: And.

995
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 11: That was one of the things that we adjusted this fight.

996
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 11: We like trippled down on the mental work, right we put.

997
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 11: I put so much mental training into this camp, and

998
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 11: that's part of the reason I want a little bit

999
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 11: of a break before I book a next fighter I

1000
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 11: really start talking about an opponent or a date. Is

1001
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 11: because I just pour so much focus into this and

1002
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 11: it's like it's a lot. I've been in camp for

1003
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,760
Speaker 11: basically seven a little over seven months, right like November.

1004
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 11: I got my Fury grappling match. Right after that, went

1005
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 11: into the Johann fight, right after that, went into this

1006
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 11: so it's been like, you know, a couple days of

1007
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 11: I went to Cuba with my fiance and her family

1008
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,479
Speaker 11: for four days after my last fight, but even still,

1009
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 11: I had the date already. I'm like, oh shit, it's

1010
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:20,240
Speaker 11: June tenth. I'm doing like sprints outside the resort and stuff,

1011
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 11: and we're doing you know, it's like it's more just

1012
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 11: like the you can't shut it off. So so I'm

1013
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 11: excited to have a couple of weeks of downtime. But

1014
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 11: I do also love pouring my passion and focus into

1015
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 11: this right. It requires that, but I also do enjoy it.

1016
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 11: You need a little recovery in between. But there are

1017
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 11: a lot of mental exercises that I was doing throughout

1018
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 11: this camp. We picked them up even more throat fight week,

1019
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 11: and we picked them up even more throat fight day.

1020
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:49,360
Speaker 11: You know, you get the ups and the downs, but

1021
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 11: we really have excellent tools to battle them. And I'm

1022
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 11: I also gained confidence knowing that with my last four fights.

1023
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 11: Although fight day can be a little bit up and down,

1024
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 11: every time I've stepped in the cage, I feel at

1025
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 11: peace and I feel quiet, And I had written on

1026
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 11: my mirror peaceful and violent for for a fight week, right, Like,

1027
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 11: that's the state I feel like I'm in. When I

1028
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 11: get in there, I'm like, I know who I am.

1029
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 11: I'm going to show you who I am.

1030
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 2: You know so?

1031
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:26,840
Speaker 11: And I if I just believe in myself and trust

1032
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,919
Speaker 11: the training that I have, I really feel like these

1033
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,839
Speaker 11: stoppages are going to keep coming. It's you know, like

1034
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 11: I said, that was the probably the best guy I've

1035
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 11: ever fought at very least the best guy I've ever

1036
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 11: fought it well to weight, you know, I would an

1037
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 11: absolute animal, but that's a featherweight. You know, this might

1038
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 11: be the best guy I've ever fought. Right, he was

1039
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 11: really good, and he still hasn't gotten the respect he deserves.

1040
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 11: But I just knew I was getting this stoppage. And

1041
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 11: I I feel like we pour so much physical and

1042
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 11: mental training into the right into the right places, right

1043
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,800
Speaker 11: like he I almost think of it like stacking chips.

1044
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 11: You know, if there's you know, maybe ten categories in

1045
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 11: MMA that kind of encompass MMA, and you get like

1046
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 11: a certain amount of chips, there isn't it enough time

1047
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 11: to allocate for everything to become a ten out of

1048
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 11: ten right away or quickly? It's like where do you

1049
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 11: want to put the chips this week or this fight

1050
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 11: or this training session, or where do you want to

1051
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 11: allocate your resources? And I feel like we're doing a

1052
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 11: really good and efficient job of improving and sharpening, like

1053
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 11: finding new things to learn without constantly jumping to the

1054
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:35,360
Speaker 11: next flashy thing, and refining the things that we're already

1055
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 11: good at in the basics without being too simple and

1056
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 11: not learning enough.

1057
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 4: Or or.

1058
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 11: Playing it, you know, realizing how to play it safe

1059
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 11: without being boring and not getting finished it. Like I

1060
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 11: feel like we're dancing the line really well, and I

1061
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 11: feel like we get better at at each camp as

1062
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 11: a team, and we're all really close. Like it it's

1063
00:48:58,239 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 11: funny we're not all out at the same gym. We're

1064
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,840
Speaker 11: all out of essentially, you know, all different places. Like

1065
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 11: my striking coach is a gym, my wrestling coaches a gym, right,

1066
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 11: the two coaches a gym, and then my mental coach

1067
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 11: lives on the other side of Canada, so I talk

1068
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 11: with him on the phone and he comes out every

1069
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 11: couple of months.

1070
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 7: So much of my prep today, Bro was like rooted

1071
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 7: in your coaches because Kruellen and I go way back

1072
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 7: because of him as a UFC cupman, so I've gotten

1073
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 7: to know him, and just talking about Chris Prickett Niagara

1074
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,320
Speaker 7: top team in this wrestling heavy gym that was rearing

1075
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 7: its head all across that fucking arena on Saturday night, right,

1076
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 7: Like I could talk to you for hours, right, even

1077
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 7: just about the dynamic with your coaches. But I do

1078
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 7: think the calendar right now kind of will allow for

1079
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 7: you to maybe just chill for six or eight weeks, right.

1080
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 7: I mean, you got Ian Gary number thirteen fighting eight

1081
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 7: rank Jeff Neil that's in August. You got Jack Dela

1082
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:49,280
Speaker 7: Mattalena who's fourteenth fighting Sean Brady who's number nine. Michelle

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Speaker 7: today to Stephen wonder Boy Thompson. Let me close with

1084
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Speaker 7: this in being respectful of your time, you graduated university

1085
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 7: in Halifax, the rumblings of a Halifax show later this

1086
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 7: year does a main event in trust you?

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00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 6: At this point? Do you not want to fight five

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00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 6: rounds for your next fight? Right?

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00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 7: It would seem to me like you are on a

1090
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 7: trajectory where at some point there's going to be a

1091
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 7: main event in Canada that could come your way. So

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00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 7: what's your appetite for ranked opposition versus a UFC headlining

1093
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 7: spot and all of that before we let you go.

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Speaker 11: Honestly, I hadn't even really consider that they would go

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00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 11: main event yet. If that's what happens next, I'm down.

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00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 11: Like I said, every jump that I've been doing feels

1097
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 11: like a massive jump, right main event contender series, fighting

1098
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 11: a ten fight veteran to my debut in a sold

1099
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:41,320
Speaker 11: out arena and on a main card against another tough Canadian.

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00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 11: Then this the main card pay per view. Like, everything

1101
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:46,319
Speaker 11: seems like a big jump. So at first I'm like,

1102
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 11: oh shit, main event would they do that? You know what,

1103
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 11: it's not undo the realm of possibility, and based on

1104
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 11: how we're training and how I've been performing, I think

1105
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 11: that's very doable. I'm really we will be one hundred

1106
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 11: percent prepared for that if that's what happens. What I

1107
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 11: do kind of expect is, next time they come to Canada,

1108
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 11: call me like, when are you coming back? You know,

1109
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 11: I've heard some rumblings of some cards as well, and

1110
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,439
Speaker 11: you know, so I expect to hear about that when

1111
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 11: they you know, when they solidify that, I expect to

1112
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 11: hear from them and say, like, so you're going to

1113
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 11: be on this card, Right, I'm like, oh, of course,

1114
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 11: but I kind of expect if it's you know, if

1115
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 11: it's a fight night, I wouldn't be shocked if I

1116
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:28,280
Speaker 11: either had the same slot or a co main event,

1117
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 11: and if it's if it's a pay per view, then

1118
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:32,720
Speaker 11: the same slot would be amazing.

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00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:33,360
Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: Right, that was the biggest fight I could have possibly

1121
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 11: had at that point in my career. So it's it's

1122
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 11: kind of like the Nicky fight again where I'm like, dude,

1123
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 11: that was a bigger fight and a bigger opponent than

1124
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:47,799
Speaker 11: I thought they were going to give me. So I'm

1125
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 11: curious to see what they're going to do next, Like, yeah,

1126
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 11: they're going to go right, because it was like I

1127
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 11: thought Nicky would be my third fight something like that,

1128
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 11: like a vet everybody knows, like I've I've proved I

1129
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 11: deserve this spot and now fight someone everyone knows on

1130
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 11: a review, right, So I was like, man, I feel like,

1131
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:04,840
Speaker 11: where do you go from here? Because this was the

1132
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 11: biggest it could have been at that point. So I'm

1133
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 11: more just like kind of excited to see what happens.

1134
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 11: You know, it's it's it's corny, but like one one, uh,

1135
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:19,760
Speaker 11: I haven't seen the movie. But I saw a clip

1136
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 11: from a movie. It's Robin Williams in something and you

1137
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:26,360
Speaker 11: know somebody, somebody says to him, He's like, yeah, man,

1138
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 11: I don't know what happens next. I don't even know

1139
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 11: what I'm going to do tomorrow. On Robin Williams says,

1140
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 11: how exciting, And I'm just like fun, you know what? Like,

1141
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 11: how exciting? Man? I don't know what's going to happen.

1142
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 11: I don't know what my next opponent's going to be.

1143
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:38,439
Speaker 11: I don't know where I'm gonna fight next. I don't

1144
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 11: know what they're gonna do with me. Like how exciting?

1145
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 2: Man?

1146
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 11: How exciting is you know?

1147
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 8: Well?

1148
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,360
Speaker 7: And how exciting is it that the fan base largely

1149
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 7: and for us, right, Joe Rogan says, we're just professional fans, right,

1150
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 7: we share that enthusiasm, like I'm very excited to manifest.

1151
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 7: Mike Malott in a main event here today on the

1152
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 7: Annakin Foma podcast. One bit of advice, though you don't

1153
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:00,320
Speaker 7: need to fight Jack Dela Madelena in Perth, Western of Tralia.

1154
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 7: I've been to Perth, Western Australia twice, and just call

1155
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,399
Speaker 7: me before you accept to fight that far away from home,

1156
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 7: because there's so much that goes into it.

1157
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 6: You know, it's just far bro.

1158
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:11,880
Speaker 11: It is far man. Like I said, they're coming to

1159
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:14,359
Speaker 11: Canada probably two or three times a year. Yeah, I'm

1160
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 11: fighting two three times a year. Call me when you

1161
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:16,400
Speaker 11: come home.

1162
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, proper, Mike Malot. We appreciate the time. Try to

1163
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 7: enjoy the fruits.

1164
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:20,359
Speaker 11: Man.

1165
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 7: I know you're enjoying the journey, but after a big

1166
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 7: win like this, enjoy the fruits with your family. And

1167
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 7: we appreciate your time today, sir. We'll see you soon.

1168
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:28,320
Speaker 11: Appreciate you time too. Thank you for having me on.

1169
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 7: John Brother all right there he is proper Mike Malot

1170
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 7: with us here on the Anak and Florian podcast. So

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00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 7: one thing that I didn't get to and partially by design,

1172
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:42,800
Speaker 7: Oftentimes in this sport, some of the highest profile opportunities

1173
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:45,839
Speaker 7: and fights materialize on short notice. Even if you just

1174
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 7: look at Blau Muhammad individually, his fight against Leon Edwards

1175
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 7: was the result of him stepping up on short notice.

1176
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 7: UFC two to eighty eight needed a co main event,

1177
00:53:56,320 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 7: and perhaps Gilbert Durino Burns retroactively regrets that decision to

1178
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 7: take that fight because his body broke down in that

1179
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 7: fight right, But sometimes there are short notice opportunities that materialize,

1180
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:08,799
Speaker 7: and I do wonder for someone like Mike Mallott how

1181
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 7: equipped he would be to take advantage of one of

1182
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 7: those fights. I think he's on a tremendous trajectory. You know,

1183
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 7: he can carry the torch and the flag I think

1184
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 7: for Canada, and even if he loses a fight here

1185
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:22,720
Speaker 7: or there, you see, not unlike Isralata Sonya and Alexander Bolkanowski. Mentally,

1186
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:25,840
Speaker 7: he's so forged that he's not so individually tied to

1187
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:28,319
Speaker 7: a singular result that he couldn't get past it. But

1188
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 7: I'm blown away by this man. I really am in

1189
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:33,799
Speaker 7: the fighter meeting in the setting today. You know, I'm

1190
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 7: trying to get in like a cold plunge for like

1191
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 7: thirty seconds before I perish. The student's like tripling down

1192
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 7: on cold exposure during training camp. Tremendous fighter, tremendous coaches,

1193
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 7: and we're excited to see what Mike Malot can do.

1194
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 7: Thanks to proper Mike Mallot, Thanks to Roger Crawl, thanks

1195
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 7: to a very prepared Ray Longo for checking in today,

1196
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:53,800
Speaker 7: and thanks to all of you for ingesting this content.

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00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:56,720
Speaker 7: Either're on the DraftKings Network or the DraftKings YouTube channel.

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Speaker 7: Of course, on the audio side, we appreciate every last

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Speaker 7: listerer out there is well. We're right back on Monday.

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Speaker 7: We'll recap the toy in Canada or and big on.

1201
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Speaker 7: Brian Pictur and kemp Flop both back with predictions for

1202
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:10,360
Speaker 7: the next UFC fight hat coming up on June twenty fourth.

1203
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Speaker 7: Our producers Cody Merro putting it all together. Thank y'all

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Speaker 7: for listening, for watching. I'm John Anak Until next time.

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Speaker 4: YO, fucking wa don.

1206
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 9: Does do they wanna warn?

1207
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 4: Donounce?

1208
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 9: They wanna have one?

1209
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 4: Donounce