WEBVTT - Phil Glasser Meets World 0:00:19.560 --> 0:00:22.639 I have a friend who was like a professional squash 0:00:22.680 --> 0:00:26.799 player when she was younger, like a champion, I'm not sure, 0:00:26.920 --> 0:00:29.520 like some international squash champion. It's like how she got 0:00:29.560 --> 0:00:32.560 into college and and now her daughter, who's the same 0:00:32.560 --> 0:00:37.000 age as Indie, is playing squash and getting very good 0:00:37.120 --> 0:00:41.239 and already touring the country. And you know, and we 0:00:41.280 --> 0:00:44.839 went down to the Queen Mary and where they have 0:00:45.040 --> 0:00:48.879 in Long Beach, and they set up a halloween like 0:00:48.920 --> 0:00:51.519 a whole it's called the Dark Harbor, and you have 0:00:51.680 --> 0:00:55.440 made every year. It is so awesome having been to yeah, 0:00:55.480 --> 0:00:59.680 having this year, having been to Universal Horror Nights, Haunted Haybrides, 0:01:00.160 --> 0:01:03.720 and the Dark Harbor. Dark Harbor was by far my favorite. 0:01:03.920 --> 0:01:06.800 Ye same kind of thing, like they have mazes and 0:01:06.840 --> 0:01:08.360 you know, it's just so much fun. 0:01:08.160 --> 0:01:10.000 And you don't believe in this stuff, but apparently one 0:01:10.000 --> 0:01:11.880 of the most haunted places in all of California. 0:01:12.000 --> 0:01:15.200 He's right, Queen Mary. It's so fun. It's so fun. 0:01:15.840 --> 0:01:17.600 So we went down with this friend and her daughter 0:01:17.640 --> 0:01:20.240 and we all got rooms, so we like stayed overnight 0:01:20.319 --> 0:01:21.800 and we had a last but one of the things 0:01:21.840 --> 0:01:25.280 that they had at the carnival was acts throwing. Yeah, 0:01:26.120 --> 0:01:30.600 I had the funniest moment because you know, like with Indy, 0:01:31.520 --> 0:01:36.160 like India is exhibiting a lot of performance talent, Like 0:01:36.280 --> 0:01:39.280 he's very much an actor. He just wants to make 0:01:39.319 --> 0:01:42.320 people laugh. He can sing really well, he can play piano, 0:01:43.240 --> 0:01:44.840 and you know, I've always had this sort of like 0:01:45.080 --> 0:01:47.600 relationship with it where I kind of just want to 0:01:47.600 --> 0:01:49.080 get out of his way, you know, like I don't 0:01:49.080 --> 0:01:50.640 want to put pressure on him. I don't want to, 0:01:50.640 --> 0:01:52.520 you know, because there's obviously both of his parents are actors. 0:01:52.520 --> 0:01:55.480 Whenever he does anything like he doesn't play, everyone's like wow, 0:01:56.320 --> 0:01:58.520 because of your parents, we can see where this comes from, 0:01:58.520 --> 0:02:01.000 you know. So I've always just like let him do 0:02:01.080 --> 0:02:03.320 his thing, let other teachers talk to him about it. 0:02:03.360 --> 0:02:05.760 Like I don't engage, you know, I'm just like yeah, 0:02:05.840 --> 0:02:09.080 I mean I we play together and we made movies together. 0:02:09.560 --> 0:02:11.600 But other than that, like I don't you know hands, 0:02:11.680 --> 0:02:13.600 I don't give him notes, I don't you know. I 0:02:13.680 --> 0:02:18.639 just let him do his thing. I was watching my friend, Oh, 0:02:18.680 --> 0:02:20.639 we get up there to do ax throw it, and 0:02:20.720 --> 0:02:22.320 so we wait in line, and then India and I 0:02:22.360 --> 0:02:24.600 are up and you only get like five throws, right, 0:02:24.880 --> 0:02:28.920 So I throw my axe just flails. Indy throws his 0:02:29.080 --> 0:02:31.480 it flails, and I'm like, okay, let's try your good, 0:02:31.600 --> 0:02:34.079 you know, and we're both trying. We get five shots. 0:02:34.080 --> 0:02:36.079 I think like maybe I sunk like two of them. 0:02:36.120 --> 0:02:38.600 You know, Indy, it's all just bouncing off. We're horrible, 0:02:38.880 --> 0:02:40.920 and I'm just like, ah, that's fine. We walk off. 0:02:41.400 --> 0:02:43.240 And then I watched my friend get up there, my 0:02:43.280 --> 0:02:46.880 friend Ivy and her daughter, and they throw the first 0:02:46.919 --> 0:02:49.960 axe and Ive's immediately like all right, Loretta, come on, 0:02:50.040 --> 0:02:51.600 you can get that ax in there. You can do this. 0:02:51.680 --> 0:02:55.160 Come on, girl like and immediately starts coaching, and I 0:02:55.200 --> 0:02:58.840 watched the two of them get like better and better. Yeah, 0:02:58.880 --> 0:03:01.640 Like I see this day this like mother daughter dynamic 0:03:01.639 --> 0:03:02.840 where I'm like, oh, this is what it's like when 0:03:02.840 --> 0:03:06.840 they play squash, right, Like she is like champion, bro dude, 0:03:07.160 --> 0:03:10.800 she is like raising a champion like. And it was 0:03:10.840 --> 0:03:13.000 like immediately like, oh, we're gonna do this. We're gonna 0:03:13.000 --> 0:03:14.639 do this right and Loretta, you're gonna focus and we're 0:03:14.639 --> 0:03:18.760 gonna And I sat there and I was like, oh, 0:03:18.800 --> 0:03:21.520 that's like this whole other side of parenting that like 0:03:21.600 --> 0:03:24.440 I've just totally like so now I'm like, what is 0:03:24.480 --> 0:03:27.760 the equivalent where I can like coach and yeah, how 0:03:27.800 --> 0:03:29.720 can I be like, all right, what's your objective in 0:03:29.760 --> 0:03:32.320 the scene, buddy, what do you what's your motivation? We're 0:03:32.320 --> 0:03:35.040 gonna all right, all right, acting is reacting. Let's see it, 0:03:35.120 --> 0:03:39.040 let's see it. Come on, let's do another take. Okay, 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:40.880 you can do better. I want to see tears. I 0:03:40.920 --> 0:03:42.640 want to see it. Okay, come on, can you get this? 0:03:43.920 --> 0:03:45.520 But there's like part of me that was a little like, 0:03:45.600 --> 0:03:49.760 oh right, I feel this pressure to like not engage. 0:03:49.840 --> 0:03:51.960 But there's the other side, which is if you see 0:03:52.000 --> 0:03:55.120 somebody has an ability you coach, you know that, you 0:03:55.120 --> 0:03:56.840 know because I do know a lot, like we do 0:03:57.000 --> 0:03:59.360 know a lot about this. I direct, I know how 0:03:59.400 --> 0:04:01.320 to talk to kids. And I was like, oh, maybe 0:04:01.320 --> 0:04:05.360 I should should be engaging more actually doing this. But 0:04:05.720 --> 0:04:09.920 call that you call that, yeah, I think it'd be 0:04:09.960 --> 0:04:12.960 great exactly. Anyway, So now I'm trying to I'm trying 0:04:12.960 --> 0:04:16.919 to incorporate like coach, acting, coach, writer dad, that's like 0:04:17.000 --> 0:04:19.039 my new my new things. I was like, you know, 0:04:19.080 --> 0:04:21.239 there's a there's a there's a little bit of like, hey, buddy, 0:04:21.240 --> 0:04:23.760 you can do better or whatever. You know, without being 0:04:23.800 --> 0:04:27.719 too judger to judgmental, not without making him feel bad, 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:30.680 but also you know, coaching like encouraging and being like 0:04:30.720 --> 0:04:32.240 you can I know you can do this, I know. 0:04:32.360 --> 0:04:36.240 I always thought coach was a weird term for something 0:04:36.240 --> 0:04:39.120 to do with acting, Like acting, teacher, I think works 0:04:39.120 --> 0:04:40.640 better than coach because coaching, it's like. 0:04:41.040 --> 0:04:43.200 There is a at least with a lot of sports 0:04:43.240 --> 0:04:43.520 like acts. 0:04:43.560 --> 0:04:48.000 Throwing is a perfect example. It's repetitive. There is a 0:04:48.560 --> 0:04:52.640 like a mechanical muscle memory, and it's muscle memory, and 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:54.480 it's counting the number of flips and it's so it's 0:04:54.480 --> 0:04:56.599 like you can drill that and drill that and drill that. 0:04:56.720 --> 0:05:00.640 But it's so much more abstract with acting that it's like, yeah, 0:05:00.640 --> 0:05:02.360 you can do scene studies at night if you want 0:05:02.400 --> 0:05:04.279 to be that. I remember dating a girl that that 0:05:04.480 --> 0:05:07.240 was the first night we went out after dinner. 0:05:07.279 --> 0:05:08.120 I was like, so what do you want to do? 0:05:08.160 --> 0:05:09.200 She's like, do you want to go home to your 0:05:09.200 --> 0:05:12.520 house and do some scene study? I was like, I'm 0:05:12.560 --> 0:05:16.320 hoping that's you from it was Carrie Russell. 0:05:17.960 --> 0:05:19.920 No, but like that's what she wanted to do when 0:05:19.960 --> 0:05:23.680 we got together, was scenes. She then went out to 0:05:23.720 --> 0:05:25.680 become a very successful. 0:05:25.120 --> 0:05:30.320 Act because Meryl Street exactly, but so there is I. 0:05:30.360 --> 0:05:32.320 Mean, I but coaching always seemed to me like they 0:05:32.320 --> 0:05:34.279 were going to be there, like exactly like I said. 0:05:34.120 --> 0:05:36.160 Like, cry, come on, I don't believe. I don't buy it. 0:05:36.320 --> 0:05:38.760 Well, but I also run. You run. 0:05:38.800 --> 0:05:42.920 There's a risk you run as being parent slash coach 0:05:43.480 --> 0:05:47.720 because eventually you look at you know, Tiger Woods or 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:52.840 the Williams sisters. If you start to resent the the 0:05:53.040 --> 0:05:56.400 sport or the activity, and then it's your parent who's 0:05:56.440 --> 0:06:00.520 pushing you, you blow that line. Like to me, I 0:06:00.560 --> 0:06:03.440 would think, all right, I do know a lot, but 0:06:03.480 --> 0:06:06.680 there are also acting teachers who know a lot, and 0:06:06.760 --> 0:06:08.960 I can put them in with an acting teacher where 0:06:09.000 --> 0:06:13.320 maybe if I'm just the parent, I don't have to worry. 0:06:13.360 --> 0:06:14.960 I don't have to take that risk of my kid 0:06:15.000 --> 0:06:16.080 eventually resenting me. 0:06:16.279 --> 0:06:16.600 They can. 0:06:17.040 --> 0:06:19.280 This has been my that's been my approach all the 0:06:19.320 --> 0:06:21.160 way along. But I also, I mean, yeah, I mean, 0:06:21.200 --> 0:06:23.560 I'm joking, but I also have just realized like I 0:06:23.600 --> 0:06:26.000 should open up to Indye a little bit, like I 0:06:26.040 --> 0:06:27.880 should talk to him about it, like the things I 0:06:27.920 --> 0:06:30.120 do know, like that I have discovered where you know, 0:06:30.200 --> 0:06:32.120 it's like I don't know, like maybe every take can 0:06:32.160 --> 0:06:34.159 be different. Maybe you don't need to lok, you know, 0:06:34.160 --> 0:06:35.720 I don't know, just like little notes that I can 0:06:35.839 --> 0:06:36.360 or things that. 0:06:36.279 --> 0:06:38.800 I can throw out, you could because so come at 0:06:38.839 --> 0:06:41.080 it from what do you wish you had? 0:06:41.160 --> 0:06:44.040 When you exactly Well, that's what I realized, is like, uh, 0:06:44.680 --> 0:06:47.040 I had a lot of bad acting teachers. And I 0:06:47.040 --> 0:06:49.520 think maybe he does too, you know, because a lot 0:06:49.560 --> 0:06:51.560 of like I think about how many people talk to 0:06:51.640 --> 0:06:53.160 us and gave us notes that didn't know what they 0:06:53.200 --> 0:06:55.040 were talking about. Of course they would just be like 0:06:55.400 --> 0:06:58.400 you know, and and I remember sitting in classes like 0:06:58.600 --> 0:07:00.920 not things that I would stay in. But you know, 0:07:01.080 --> 0:07:03.120 because we were very lucky, I got kind of out 0:07:03.160 --> 0:07:05.000 of that scene. But like if you stayed in like 0:07:05.040 --> 0:07:07.440 local theater or local they would give you the word. 0:07:07.520 --> 0:07:09.920 Like I remember the first time my brother and I 0:07:09.960 --> 0:07:16.120 had an audition and our agent or local agent invited 0:07:16.240 --> 0:07:18.120 us to our office because we were going to meet 0:07:18.160 --> 0:07:20.760 Warren Batty for Dick Tracy, like were screen testing for 0:07:20.760 --> 0:07:22.880 Dick Tracy. I had only put myself on tape and 0:07:22.920 --> 0:07:24.920 sent the vhs down to LA and then they were 0:07:24.920 --> 0:07:28.040 screen testing me and Shiloh. So that morning our agent 0:07:28.080 --> 0:07:29.840 we were flying down to la and our agent, our 0:07:29.880 --> 0:07:31.600 local agent at Santa Rosea, called us and was like, 0:07:31.600 --> 0:07:32.920 we need to talk. We need to you know, make 0:07:32.920 --> 0:07:34.760 sure you guys know what you're doing. And of course, 0:07:34.840 --> 0:07:37.720 like she brought in her like somebody who had worked 0:07:37.760 --> 0:07:39.080 with her. I think it was like a family member 0:07:39.120 --> 0:07:40.680 or whatever who had worked on films, and he was 0:07:40.720 --> 0:07:43.240 going to give us notes. He literally explained how to 0:07:43.320 --> 0:07:45.800 hit your mark. He was like, they're going to draw 0:07:45.840 --> 0:07:48.080 a tea on the ground and you're gonna walk to 0:07:48.160 --> 0:07:50.960 that and don't say your lines until you hit the tee. 0:07:51.720 --> 0:07:55.520 And we were like, oh okay, And of course went 0:07:55.560 --> 0:07:58.440 down to meet Warren Batty and they started improvising and 0:07:58.440 --> 0:08:00.360 we were a complete mess, and it was all did 0:08:00.400 --> 0:08:01.080 you hit the tea? 0:08:01.440 --> 0:08:01.800 I did not. 0:08:01.920 --> 0:08:04.440 There was no mark, was no mar There was no mark. 0:08:04.680 --> 0:08:07.000 I mean basically, this guy had been an extra on 0:08:07.080 --> 0:08:09.560 some things, you know, or worked in commercials, and like 0:08:09.600 --> 0:08:12.000 that was the extent of his like professional knowledge to 0:08:12.040 --> 0:08:13.640 give us, which is, you know, I don't blame him, 0:08:13.640 --> 0:08:15.520 but it was like here we were at ten, like 0:08:16.040 --> 0:08:16.480 going to. 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:19.560 Do these rending time right before you go into a 0:08:19.600 --> 0:08:21.960 meeting learning about something that's not even going to be there. 0:08:22.120 --> 0:08:24.800 Nope, and not even that important. Like that's the easy 0:08:24.800 --> 0:08:26.440 part of acting to teach, that's that, you know. The 0:08:26.440 --> 0:08:29.520 hard part is like just be yourself, just relax, just express, 0:08:29.680 --> 0:08:31.640 just you know, all the things and feel free and 0:08:31.680 --> 0:08:34.160 there's no wrong answer, there's just have fun and all 0:08:34.200 --> 0:08:37.600 those things. So yeah, I think about like what I 0:08:37.600 --> 0:08:39.840 can start having the conversations I can start having with 0:08:39.840 --> 0:08:41.960 India about like what it's what's actually like to act 0:08:42.000 --> 0:08:44.439 and maybe just share some wisdom. I swear to God, 0:08:44.440 --> 0:08:46.040 when you started the story, I thought you're gonna be 0:08:46.080 --> 0:08:48.720 like an Indie is amazing at squash. 0:08:48.920 --> 0:08:49.640 Yeah exactly. 0:08:51.800 --> 0:08:54.800 No, No, believe it or not. My kid is not 0:08:54.840 --> 0:08:57.079 into sports. Guy, that's weird. That's weird. 0:08:57.160 --> 0:08:59.280 I find it hard to believe. I think Indy's going 0:08:59.320 --> 0:08:59.640 to grow. 0:08:59.559 --> 0:09:00.560 Up to love sports ball. 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:02.679 By the way, Danielle, I do have to say, I 0:09:02.679 --> 0:09:04.599 know you're dealing with a little sickness today. 0:09:05.320 --> 0:09:06.600 Makes the voice sexy. 0:09:06.960 --> 0:09:08.920 I gotta say sorry, you got the cat like the 0:09:09.000 --> 0:09:12.880 Kathleen Turner rasp going on just saying. 0:09:13.040 --> 0:09:16.960 Thanks will, Hey, honey, what are you doing? You got 0:09:16.960 --> 0:09:22.280 another pall mall. That's right. I go non filter. 0:09:22.280 --> 0:09:23.160 If you know what I'm saying. 0:09:24.360 --> 0:09:26.040 It become New Yorker parent. 0:09:27.720 --> 0:09:31.679 Everyone from you. 0:09:31.679 --> 0:09:34.439 You never call my boys sexy when I'm sick, Will it's. 0:09:34.280 --> 0:09:36.439 Because it's your voice is sexy all the time, and 0:09:36.480 --> 0:09:38.120 I can't keep saying it. 0:09:38.440 --> 0:09:39.400 We're tired of hearing it. 0:09:39.480 --> 0:09:39.720 You know. 0:09:41.160 --> 0:09:43.160 Welcome to bod Meets World. I'm Daniel Fischel. 0:09:43.360 --> 0:09:48.680 I'm a right as strong and that was sexy. 0:09:48.880 --> 0:10:07.720 Yeah, Wi, as you could probably guess. Producer and husband 0:10:07.720 --> 0:10:10.640 of this podcast, Jensen will not rest and tell everyone 0:10:10.679 --> 0:10:13.480 who's had a character name on Boy Meets World joins 0:10:13.600 --> 0:10:14.680 us to talk about the show. 0:10:15.240 --> 0:10:16.680 I can't talk. 0:10:16.559 --> 0:10:21.200 About the shoot. You got to talk about the shoal 0:10:21.640 --> 0:10:26.840 about you did the loop dip. That's one of my 0:10:26.840 --> 0:10:27.640 favorite stories. 0:10:27.679 --> 0:10:31.720 With my friend Brandy and I drove from drove from 0:10:31.880 --> 0:10:37.679 Vancouver to Banff and we were two girls before good navigation, 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:42.080 just lost in Canada, driving around and I was like, 0:10:42.160 --> 0:10:43.480 I don't I think we're not on the right I 0:10:43.480 --> 0:10:45.079 don't think we're this is the right thing. I think 0:10:45.080 --> 0:10:46.360 we're in the wrong spot. And she kept saying, no, 0:10:46.440 --> 0:10:48.600 let's just keep going, keep going going. Finally, we come 0:10:48.920 --> 0:10:51.880 like for miles of not seeing anything. We come across 0:10:51.920 --> 0:10:56.920 this tiny little like gas station, one pump and convenience 0:10:56.920 --> 0:10:58.360 store thing and I'm like, we have to go in 0:10:58.440 --> 0:11:01.280 and ask for help. And we go in and I'm like, Hi, 0:11:01.840 --> 0:11:03.439 we are trying to you know, showing her the map 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:05.760 which we're coming from here, we're trying to get to here, 0:11:06.120 --> 0:11:12.199 and she goes, oh ah, you took the loop. Yeah, 0:11:13.679 --> 0:11:16.880 you talk the loop. No, you're not supposed to take 0:11:16.920 --> 0:11:17.360 the loop. 0:11:19.160 --> 0:11:20.680 We talked about him for the rest of the trip. 0:11:23.240 --> 0:11:24.040 Finish the loop. 0:11:25.640 --> 0:11:28.439 I was like, how do we unloop? Can you unloop us? 0:11:29.160 --> 0:11:29.280 Us? 0:11:29.559 --> 0:11:34.880 And he get us back and yeah, I live here now. 0:11:39.760 --> 0:11:40.680 Anyway back to it. 0:11:40.800 --> 0:11:43.200 So, anyone who's had a character name on Boy Meets 0:11:43.240 --> 0:11:45.439 World joins us to talk about the show, and boy 0:11:45.559 --> 0:11:48.400 are we thankful for it? This week we're chatting with 0:11:48.440 --> 0:11:50.400 a name that made all of us perk up during 0:11:50.440 --> 0:11:54.200 our season two recaps. It rang many bells, and for 0:11:54.280 --> 0:11:58.319 many reasons. First off, he played the hilariously named Ubaldo 0:11:58.520 --> 0:12:02.679 in Boy Meets World's season episode The Uninvited. He's the 0:12:02.720 --> 0:12:06.360 overly eager partygoer who somehow scores an invite to Melissa's 0:12:06.400 --> 0:12:11.160 exclusive Sean Free Hangout. Secondly, he shared the same childhood 0:12:11.160 --> 0:12:14.400 theater role of one Right or Strong Just a Southwest 0:12:14.440 --> 0:12:18.000 flight away from San Francisco in The La Company. And thirdly, 0:12:18.240 --> 0:12:20.520 how can you forget the kid who was the voice 0:12:20.559 --> 0:12:24.080 of fiveful Mouskowitz in the Iconic and American Tail Movies. 0:12:24.520 --> 0:12:27.079 With a credit like that, you are forever goaded. 0:12:27.679 --> 0:12:30.400 Now he's behind the camera, producing movies and joining us 0:12:30.440 --> 0:12:31.880 internationally from set. 0:12:32.160 --> 0:12:34.400 If you can believe it? Can we take. 0:12:34.240 --> 0:12:36.920 Credit for his modern day Hollywood success because of his 0:12:37.000 --> 0:12:38.240 early turn as Ubaldo. 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:41.440 No, but we will anyway. 0:12:42.120 --> 0:12:46.559 Welcome to Pod Meets World, Philip Glasser, Yah. 0:12:48.120 --> 0:12:51.400 Go on, how you doing good? How are you? 0:12:51.679 --> 0:12:53.960 It's a long time, It's been a long time. We 0:12:54.000 --> 0:12:57.240 are told that you are joining us from London on set. 0:12:57.320 --> 0:13:02.440 Basically I am, I'm in my trailer little well, well, 0:13:02.480 --> 0:13:04.080 we are very appreciative. 0:13:04.160 --> 0:13:07.000 I think it goes without saying that whatever you are 0:13:07.000 --> 0:13:10.480 currently producing is not as important as talking to us 0:13:10.600 --> 0:13:13.920 about the one Boy Meets World episode where you played 0:13:13.920 --> 0:13:16.600 a character named Ubaldo at a house party. 0:13:17.440 --> 0:13:19.160 Obviously obviously not. 0:13:21.160 --> 0:13:24.160 We will eventually talk about what you're producing, but not 0:13:24.240 --> 0:13:27.160 to start to start, I want to talk about your 0:13:27.200 --> 0:13:32.400 Hollywood origin story. I know you're a valley kid, like 0:13:32.720 --> 0:13:36.000 most child actors at a time, but how did you 0:13:36.040 --> 0:13:38.600 convince your parents to find an agent and then sit 0:13:38.640 --> 0:13:40.360 in one on one traffic for auditions? 0:13:42.120 --> 0:13:44.600 You know, it was it was a family thing. So 0:13:44.679 --> 0:13:47.480 my brother, an older brother, is about seven years older, 0:13:47.480 --> 0:13:49.920 and he acted, so, you know, like every kid brother, 0:13:50.040 --> 0:13:52.120 you want to do what your big brother does. And 0:13:52.960 --> 0:13:56.160 I was only four years old and somehow, you know, 0:13:56.200 --> 0:13:59.600 I was that kid who was always waving his hand 0:13:59.679 --> 0:14:03.720 and get crazy. And my brother's agent said, oh, he's 0:14:03.760 --> 0:14:06.920 got a good personality, he should try. From addition, so 0:14:06.960 --> 0:14:08.520 my mother knew a little bit about it, she was 0:14:08.559 --> 0:14:13.960 a casting director. So I went out for a Wells 0:14:14.000 --> 0:14:16.960 Fargo Bank commercial my very first I did. I got 0:14:17.000 --> 0:14:21.080 the part, so I'm like, okay, that's an interesting and 0:14:21.080 --> 0:14:23.720 then literally, yeah, like a year or two later, I 0:14:23.760 --> 0:14:25.920 was five and a half, maybe about to turn six, 0:14:26.640 --> 0:14:32.080 audition for this cartoon movie for Steven Spielberg. And I 0:14:32.080 --> 0:14:34.720 had no idea that I was about to become a 0:14:34.760 --> 0:14:37.400 crazy character that would be around for a very long time. 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:42.280 You were you were six years old when you recorded 0:14:42.320 --> 0:14:44.160 fivele I. 0:14:44.160 --> 0:14:46.480 Started recording at six. I did it so I was eighteen, 0:14:47.640 --> 0:14:50.400 so coly was a little slow for me. 0:14:53.400 --> 0:14:54.120 My gosh. 0:14:54.280 --> 0:14:54.520 Wow. 0:14:54.640 --> 0:14:57.840 So your first job was a national Wells Fargo commercial 0:14:57.920 --> 0:15:01.680 and your next job was a Steven spiel Berg movie Bible. 0:15:01.760 --> 0:15:02.000 Wow. 0:15:02.440 --> 0:15:06.280 Okay, yes, I think that sounds like the normal trajectory 0:15:06.320 --> 0:15:08.400 for most actors in the industry. 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:10.160 Yeah. 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:12.560 The problem is I peaked at like eight though I 0:15:12.640 --> 0:15:13.360 speaked way too. 0:15:15.840 --> 0:15:16.920 It's all downhill from there. 0:15:17.120 --> 0:15:18.560 Did you read for Spielberg? 0:15:20.480 --> 0:15:24.120 So I actually put myself on tape, okay, and then 0:15:24.600 --> 0:15:27.440 and then I came back in and I did Actually 0:15:27.480 --> 0:15:29.400 I never went in and met them and did another 0:15:29.480 --> 0:15:31.400 tape like in a booth they put me and then 0:15:32.600 --> 0:15:35.320 they said you're in, and this time you have to remember. 0:15:35.400 --> 0:15:39.600 So this was like nineteen eighty four. Animation movies weren't big, 0:15:39.680 --> 0:15:41.480 Like I want to say. Snow White was the highest 0:15:41.480 --> 0:15:43.480 grossing movie at all time, and it made like twenty 0:15:43.520 --> 0:15:46.720 something million dollars. You know, Don Bluth was an iconic 0:15:46.800 --> 0:15:49.440 animator from Disney's and all the Disney movies and Pete's 0:15:49.480 --> 0:15:52.240 Dragon and everything, And he teams up with Steven to 0:15:52.240 --> 0:15:55.720 tell this story that was essentially somewhat about Stephen's grandfather, 0:15:56.160 --> 0:16:00.040 whose real name was Bible, I was Spielberg. Yeah, and 0:16:00.640 --> 0:16:03.600 you know, we do this movie and then all of 0:16:03.640 --> 0:16:05.600 a sudden, they were the first guys to really bring 0:16:05.760 --> 0:16:08.960 celebrities because he had Don Bluth, he had Madeline Kahn, 0:16:10.000 --> 0:16:12.720 Christopher Plumber and then Amy Irving were all in the movie. 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:14.920 And that wasn't a common thing back then to have 0:16:14.960 --> 0:16:19.080 celebrities and animated movies. And this movie comes out eighty six, 0:16:19.120 --> 0:16:22.040 it makes like seventy million dollars, which were probably like 0:16:22.240 --> 0:16:25.200 close to a billion dollars in today's world, and everyone's like, 0:16:25.240 --> 0:16:28.200 whoa we get nominated for the Oscar for somewhere out there, 0:16:28.880 --> 0:16:31.400 and it was just absolute chaos ever since. 0:16:32.040 --> 0:16:35.880 Wow, oh my gosh, So how did you how did 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:40.400 you know what to do in the in the studio? 0:16:40.520 --> 0:16:42.120 Like it's your first voiceover job. 0:16:42.200 --> 0:16:45.200 Other voices in this movie, Madeline conn Christopher Plumber, Don 0:16:45.240 --> 0:16:48.040 Delawiz and here you are a six year old with 0:16:48.360 --> 0:16:50.480 your first trech voiceover job. 0:16:50.520 --> 0:16:52.320 How did you? How did you know what to do? 0:16:52.360 --> 0:16:52.960 Who helped you? 0:16:54.360 --> 0:16:56.400 Well, you know what I mean. Stephen and Don were 0:16:56.400 --> 0:16:58.640 in every one of my recording sessions, so that was 0:16:58.640 --> 0:17:00.640 super helpful. But what they did for me is because 0:17:00.680 --> 0:17:03.440 I was so young, So was Madeline Kahn, so is 0:17:03.520 --> 0:17:07.040 Christopher Plummer. I recorded with them my lines, so I 0:17:07.119 --> 0:17:09.520 always had someone to sort of react with, which is 0:17:09.560 --> 0:17:13.800 super uncommon when you're doing voice Yeah, so I had. 0:17:13.880 --> 0:17:16.320 I was really spoiled. I got to work with all 0:17:16.359 --> 0:17:19.640 these iconic legends, you know, as a little kid who 0:17:19.680 --> 0:17:21.480 made it super easy for me. 0:17:22.480 --> 0:17:24.679 And so what happens when the movie takes off is 0:17:24.720 --> 0:17:27.520 every like, is everyone at school freaking out that they 0:17:27.560 --> 0:17:28.119 know Fible. 0:17:30.040 --> 0:17:31.679 There was a little bit of that. I think there 0:17:31.720 --> 0:17:33.359 was some bullying too. I think people are looking for 0:17:33.400 --> 0:17:35.679 a tale. You know, kids are interesting. Oh yeah, so 0:17:36.119 --> 0:17:37.919 you know I was still you know, going to like 0:17:38.119 --> 0:17:42.879 la Us the public school, right, you know, and it 0:17:43.000 --> 0:17:45.359 wasn't you know, it wasn't a thing. And then after 0:17:45.400 --> 0:17:49.120 that just voiceovers became such a big part of my life. 0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:52.399 I was doing like four cartoon series at the same time. Wow. 0:17:52.440 --> 0:17:55.720 So I went from that the Tiny Tuons Christian he 0:17:55.760 --> 0:17:57.879 put me on that for a while, and then I 0:17:58.000 --> 0:18:00.480 was on Pound Puppies, the original one if you remember, 0:18:00.480 --> 0:18:04.840 with Ruth Buzzy. Yeah, yeah, they did Creepy Crawlers, PJ 0:18:05.160 --> 0:18:09.800 Sparkles and like a do other stuff, and men got 0:18:09.840 --> 0:18:12.479 into the ADR world and joined like one of these 0:18:12.560 --> 0:18:15.400 loop groups, and it was just I literally worked almost 0:18:15.440 --> 0:18:18.040 every day, which was absolute chaos. 0:18:18.240 --> 0:18:18.639 Well it was. 0:18:18.760 --> 0:18:20.879 It was a great time in the industry because it 0:18:20.920 --> 0:18:22.560 was it was one of those times where and then 0:18:22.560 --> 0:18:24.399 they got out of it and now they're slowly starting 0:18:24.400 --> 0:18:27.440 to get back into it in voiceover where children actually 0:18:27.480 --> 0:18:30.760 did children's voices. Yea, so it's like you would listen 0:18:30.800 --> 0:18:33.720 to Charlie Brown and all those and the Peanuts gang 0:18:33.720 --> 0:18:35.840 were all kids. And then after a while they were like, 0:18:35.880 --> 0:18:38.760 well we should get adults to do kids, especially in 0:18:38.800 --> 0:18:41.520 that kind of early eighties era, and so eighty four 0:18:41.560 --> 0:18:44.040 eighty five they did start casting kids again. And it 0:18:44.080 --> 0:18:46.760 makes a huge difference when it's a kid doing a 0:18:46.840 --> 0:18:47.480 kid's voice. 0:18:47.880 --> 0:18:51.040 Yeah, it's so true. And they were everything was authenticity 0:18:51.080 --> 0:18:53.439 with Steven and Don Like their big thing is you 0:18:53.520 --> 0:18:55.399 had to be able to sing, Like that was a 0:18:55.600 --> 0:18:57.959 big thing. They weren't going to do the Disney model 0:18:58.440 --> 0:19:00.560 where you can get somebody else to read. If you 0:19:00.560 --> 0:19:03.159 couldn't sing, you couldn't do the role. I had to 0:19:03.200 --> 0:19:05.879 like sing somewhere out there. The very first time I 0:19:05.920 --> 0:19:10.520 went in like, no, thank you. So it was it 0:19:10.640 --> 0:19:12.679 was crazy. I had no idea what it was going 0:19:12.720 --> 0:19:15.879 to become. Nobody did. But you know, the thing that 0:19:16.000 --> 0:19:18.240 actually came out of it, besides all this other great 0:19:18.320 --> 0:19:21.199 voice overtook as something that writer and I, you know, 0:19:21.320 --> 0:19:24.639 share is I got a call from Cameron McIntosh's office. 0:19:25.000 --> 0:19:27.160 They said, who does the voice for Fible? They called 0:19:27.160 --> 0:19:29.760