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Speaker 3: Everyone from you.

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Speaker 1: You never call my boys sexy when I'm sick, Will it's.

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Speaker 1: I'm a right as strong and that was sexy.

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Speaker 3: With a credit like that, you are forever goaded.

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Speaker 4: Now he's behind the camera, producing movies and joining us

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Speaker 3: If you can believe it? Can we take.

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Speaker 4: Credit for his modern day Hollywood success because of his

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Speaker 3: No, but we will anyway.

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Speaker 4: Welcome to Pod Meets World, Philip Glasser, Yah.

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Speaker 1: Go on, how you doing good? How are you?

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Speaker 4: It's a long time, It's been a long time. We

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Speaker 3: Basically I am, I'm in my trailer little well, well,

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Speaker 4: I think it goes without saying that whatever you are

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Speaker 3: Obviously obviously not.

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Speaker 4: We will eventually talk about what you're producing, but not

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Speaker 5: You know, it was it was a family thing. So

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Speaker 5: Started recording at six. I did it so I was eighteen,

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Speaker 3: My gosh.

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Speaker 5: Wow.

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Speaker 5: The problem is I peaked at like eight though I

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Speaker 3: Did you read for Spielberg?

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Speaker 5: So I actually put myself on tape, okay, and then

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Speaker 5: So this was like nineteen eighty four. Animation movies weren't big,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's so true. And they were everything was authenticity

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Speaker 5: So they'd watch us record the lines and video us

438
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Speaker 5: so really help with the animation, which is really neat.

439
00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:24,600
Speaker 3: That's so cool, so cool.

440
00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, mouth people don't realize how important mouth they called

441
00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,480
Speaker 2: the mouth flaps are in animation. Yea, where if you

442
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:32,280
Speaker 2: get a breakdown because a lot of the animator is

443
00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,600
Speaker 2: the thing that maybe not back in the day, but

444
00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:38,280
Speaker 2: now a lot of the animators don't speak English because

445
00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:42,040
Speaker 2: they're being animated in Japan or Korea or China, and

446
00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:45,359
Speaker 2: so what will happen is they literally just have a

447
00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:47,720
Speaker 2: chart of what the mouth looks like when it makes

448
00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,520
Speaker 2: certain letters. So an O makes this letter, an A

449
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,080
Speaker 2: makes this letter, so they can animate around the actual

450
00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:56,000
Speaker 2: vowels that you're saying, and so by filming you doing

451
00:21:56,040 --> 00:22:00,160
Speaker 2: it there literally can animate the actual mouthflap to match

452
00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,919
Speaker 2: the word, which again you can tell the difference when

453
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,040
Speaker 2: you see one of those schlock Fest eighty cartoons that

454
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,800
Speaker 2: I loved, where it was the mouthflap would just be

455
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:09,399
Speaker 2: doing this and a voice would come out and sometimes

456
00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,960
Speaker 2: it would stop talking and the voice would still be

457
00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,480
Speaker 2: going yeah, or a different voice would come out of

458
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,240
Speaker 2: the mouth flaps like they just didn't care, And you

459
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:19,160
Speaker 2: can tell it makes a big difference, the attention to detail.

460
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:34,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're one hundred percent right, all right.

461
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:39,160
Speaker 1: So singing this iconic song, how was it were you?

462
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,359
Speaker 1: Did it just come out or was it like a

463
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,399
Speaker 1: long time lots of takes?

464
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean they came over to my house and

465
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,640
Speaker 5: taught it to me, you know, at like you know,

466
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,359
Speaker 5: James Horner came with. I think the writers were Berry

467
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,520
Speaker 5: Man and Cynthia while cract and they write, and they

468
00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:57,800
Speaker 5: taught me how to singer. I sing like four songs

469
00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 5: in the movie, but this one was like the big one,

470
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:04,800
Speaker 5: and I'll never forget it. I did the first take

471
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,920
Speaker 5: my voice cracked, and that's the one they actually ended

472
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 5: up using because and I'm like, no, no, I'll do

473
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,160
Speaker 5: it again. I'll do it again. I think I did.

474
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:18,199
Speaker 5: But it was so authentic and Stephen like absolutely loved it,

475
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 5: and he's like, no, that's it. That's exactly why we

476
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 5: want someone to really sing it themselves, because you're in

477
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 5: that character. Now we've established it, and that's the one

478
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 5: that kind of went. I had no idea that we'd

479
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 5: be playing still at weddings, probably still to this day,

480
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 5: you know, And you know, it was the most unique

481
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 5: thing and I still get it to stay every once

482
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:43,919
Speaker 5: in a while from people. Is you know, shortly after

483
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,120
Speaker 5: the first movie, we had the first Goal four and

484
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 5: that song was such a big song for people whose

485
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:53,199
Speaker 5: parents were deployed constantly. People always coming up to me

486
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,199
Speaker 5: saying that song was so important to me during the

487
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 5: war when my mom or dad was over in Iraq,

488
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 5: and you know, and then anything like that makes me

489
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 5: feel so good about anything I could have done that

490
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 5: could have helped somebody else. Yes, I still to this day,

491
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 5: like comic cons people will tell me about it, you know,

492
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:15,400
Speaker 5: and still so it's uh. I had like once again,

493
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 5: I had no idea anything that's gonna come up and

494
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 5: then oh cool, I get to work with the guy

495
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:22,879
Speaker 5: who made Jaws and e T. I think it's the

496
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 5: coolest thing in the world. But I had no idea

497
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 5: what it would become.

498
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,200
Speaker 2: I have I have a question for you from the

499
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 2: the technical side of it, because back in the day,

500
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Speaker 2: I mean now, as a voiceover actor, I mean, you

501
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,120
Speaker 2: know this as well as anybody else. We do four

502
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,679
Speaker 2: hour sessions. It's they don't want to beat you up

503
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:39,440
Speaker 2: too much. You're gonna do four hours and you're gonna

504
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,120
Speaker 2: be out. Was it the same back in the day,

505
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 2: especially as a young performer whose vocal cords hadn't really

506
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 2: yet developed. You're singing, you're doing your vo Are they

507
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 2: giving you two three hour sessions or are you there

508
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 2: all day?

509
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 5: You know, I think it varied. I think sometimes, you know,

510
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,439
Speaker 5: this songs took a little bit longer because you know

511
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,880
Speaker 5: that you have you're saying with somebody else and they

512
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 5: have to get it right too, it's not just you.

513
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 5: And some of the sessions, probably because of my age,

514
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,159
Speaker 5: took a little bit longer, you know. I mean I

515
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 5: could read, but you know, I wasn't a thespian at

516
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 5: this point. I'm six, right, So you know, I think

517
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 5: they had to be patient, and it was it was

518
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 5: so much. It was a tremendous amount of dialogue. Yeah,

519
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,639
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, so they had everything on like

520
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 5: these poster boards in big lettering to make it super easy,

521
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,639
Speaker 5: and Don would go through with me, and so with

522
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 5: Steven sometimes and the other actors. Like I said, they

523
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 5: were just it was like having a bunch of like parents.

524
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:38,879
Speaker 5: They were so kind, like Don Delaise, you know, it

525
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:40,920
Speaker 5: was one of the sweetest human beings I've ever worked with.

526
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 5: In my life, and he was like just having this

527
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,920
Speaker 5: giant eddie bear of an uncle that would just make

528
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 5: everything fun. He'd tell a joke, he would make the

529
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,199
Speaker 5: entire experience fun, just like he is in all this.

530
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:53,640
Speaker 1: Character that's so cool.

531
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,160
Speaker 4: That is amazing and so mixed in with other voiceover

532
00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 4: gigs and an eventual American Tales sequel and TV show.

533
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 4: Is your start in live action TV? Guest starring playing

534
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:07,919
Speaker 4: a young Danny Tanner.

535
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 3: On Full House?

536
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 1: Yeah?

537
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 4: Do you remember working with Bob Zagat at all and

538
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 4: what it was like playing a younger version of him?

539
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 5: I did, I did. It was during lames. So the

540
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 5: big thing is they wouldn't cut my hair because that

541
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 5: was the big thing. To get rash you had to

542
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,360
Speaker 5: work like a straight urgent. You couldn't get your haircut.

543
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 5: They had to pin up a bunch of stuff. But

544
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 5: it was supposed to be, you know, back in the

545
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 5: sixties or seventies when they grew up, so it wasn't

546
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,639
Speaker 5: a big deal for the flashback, and it was, I mean,

547
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 5: it was awesome, It wasn't great. I think it was

548
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 5: like season two. It wasn't a very old show. Maybe

549
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,679
Speaker 5: season three. Yeah, And you know, I went on was

550
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 5: able to do the show. I had my undershody cover

551
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 5: my performances that I couldn't do that week, and it

552
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 5: was It was awesome. Bob was great, everybody in the

553
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 5: cast was great. They talked about like bringing us back

554
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 5: for another one, and then I just never ended up

555
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 5: happening because it was such a cute episode showed how

556
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 5: we all met, how they became brands.

557
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 1: All right, so I want to I want to hear

558
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 1: about your lam Is experience. So what was that like?

559
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 1: Was that your first like theatricals was the first time

560
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,400
Speaker 1: on stage? First time? And how was it my first time.

561
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 5: On stage of it Is? I had no idea what

562
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,360
Speaker 5: it was going to be. It was a new thing.

563
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 5: I went to this place. It was this church somewhere

564
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 5: off sense of Bovard. Sorry I lost my train of

565
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 5: thought earlier. And they had like a church and they

566
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 5: took a big square put the big circle thing like

567
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 5: with the automatic turntable on it, and we just went

568
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 5: in there and then all of a sudden they're like, okay,

569
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 5: you do this, You do this, and you get the stuff.

570
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 5: You start meeting all the Pupil's a lot of people

571
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,439
Speaker 5: that came from New York because it was the third

572
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 5: show went London, that's New York, that's Los Angeles, and

573
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 5: we trained there with I think William Solo was our

574
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 5: Valjean Jeff McCarthy was the javert, and k Cole was

575
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 5: our our miss Tardier, and then Gary Beach who on

576
00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 5: a few tonys was our mister Thenardier. And we just

577
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 5: started training and the next thing you know, we're opening

578
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 5: up at the Schubert Theater and it was just once again,

579
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,199
Speaker 5: I had no idea. I didn't even know what the

580
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 5: show was. I had no clue. I'd never done it.

581
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,160
Speaker 5: But I'm like, oh, this is fun. And you got

582
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 5: to go around, run up and down, you know, barricades,

583
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 5: and sing all these songs. Back then, you know, everything

584
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:24,919
Speaker 5: was still in it with the turntables. When they got

585
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 5: rid of the turntable, you know, you didn't have the

586
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 5: Gavroche death scene, all the big stuff.

587
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 1: I know they cut it out. Now, my god, he

588
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:38,239
Speaker 1: dies London. It's so frustrating because they used to. They

589
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 1: used to. The whole like conceit of the original show

590
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 1: is that they the whole stage would rotate and lazy

591
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 1: Susan right, it was incredible, like the so the show

592
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 1: was just this flaw. So what what that meant is

593
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,959
Speaker 1: that the barricades came in and created a wall halfway

594
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: through the stage, but it could rotate to show you

595
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 1: the other side. So the key moment when Gavroche decided

596
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 1: to go and volunteer to like get more bullets for

597
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 1: them because they're running out of AMMO. He goes over

598
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 1: the barricade. The whole thing turns and then it's this

599
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 1: incredibly tense scene where he's like singing to himself acapella

600
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 1: while he's like gathering bullets and he gets shot and

601
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 1: dies on stage. It's like one of the coolest and

602
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 1: as a kid, it was the greatest thing to play.

603
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 1: Got to Die, And nowadays they just cut it out.

604
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 1: You just see GeV Rush go over the barricade. You

605
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 1: hear it, and it's like, oh, so those kids are

606
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 1: missing out. Man, they don't They don't have the glory

607
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 1: like we did.

608
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 2: Yeah again, if you can't, you can't do kid murder

609
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 2: on stage anymore?

610
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 1: Where are we?

611
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 5: It was the best part. I mean throwing there's this

612
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 5: thing when you're dying and you have to try to

613
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 5: throw the bag back over the get the bullet bag

614
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 5: back over the barricade, which was all part of you know, competition.

615
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 5: For me, as like an eight year old, I thought

616
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 5: it was the coolest thing in the world. Trying to

617
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 5: have to do it tonight. I mean, it doesn't change

618
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 5: the scene. Just getting that from the barricade, it's a

619
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 5: big Oh.

620
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 1: Did other cast members offer you rewards if you did it?

621
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 1: That's the way to do. For me, they were like,

622
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 1: if you make it, you get a candy bar. And

623
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 1: so it was like and there was like which and

624
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,479
Speaker 1: like me and then I and my the other Gevro,

625
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:09,959
Speaker 1: she had like his favorite candy bar.

626
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 5: For me.

627
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 1: It was like dark chocolate milky ways. And I knew

628
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 1: that if I could make.

629
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 2: The eight year old, are you eight years like a

630
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 2: dark chocolate mound, dark chocolate milky way.

631
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 1: Man, I only got it a few times. I've never

632
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 1: made it. I never made it sports ball exactly, sports

633
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 1: ball throw.

634
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 5: A baseball practice, all right?

635
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 3: So I want to get into Boy Meets World.

636
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 4: You appear in our second season episode The Uninvited, all

637
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 4: about Sean not getting a house party invite while Corey

638
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 4: does get one.

639
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 3: Do you remember auditioning for the role?

640
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 5: I did? I did I auditioned for it? You know,

641
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 5: I remember who your casting director was, Sally Dally Seiner. Okay, yeah,

642
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 5: you know what audition like everyone else, like full House

643
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 5: or anything. And I called that I knew the show.

644
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 5: I met Ben before because we grew up not far

645
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 5: from each other.

646
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 3: Oh okay, and then obviously after that.

647
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 5: Showing, I became really good friends. You know, Ben was

648
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 5: on my altar my wedding for a moment, so complicated story.

649
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 3: Wait wait wait, okay, so you auditioned for you auditioned

650
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 3: for the role.

651
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 5: I just running on.

652
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 3: Can No, that's okay.

653
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 4: So you get the role, you come on to set,

654
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 4: you you you do the week. Do you have any

655
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 4: specific memories about the week other than maybe you obviously

656
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 4: became close to Ben.

657
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 3: So did you spend a lot of time with Ben?

658
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 5: Yeah? I spent some time with him, you know, I

659
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 5: mean I think I met all you guys. You know,

660
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 5: we did the show. As we did it was that

661
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 5: like little thing. I knew the girl Jonna Stewart, I

662
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 5: think it was her name that played like the girl

663
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 5: that was throwing the party. I knew her because we

664
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 5: did another job together. Okay, and uh, you know it

665
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 5: was just it was. It was cool. It was a

666
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 5: fun show to be on. You know, I got to

667
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 5: play like door key number seven or whatever the nerd

668
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 5: at a party, and you know, worked that great. It

669
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 5: was fun. The show. You guys are all awesome. The

670
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 5: show was easy to do. It was fun. Everyone was nice.

671
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 5: And and then Ben and I just kind of stayed

672
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 5: in contact through the years, you know, because we lived together,

673
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,719
Speaker 5: we had a lot of mutual friends, especially the oak Woods,

674
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 5: and then we kind of re met through life because

675
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 5: I moved into the oak Woods and that was kind

676
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 5: of it. And then we became really good friends for

677
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 5: a long time.

678
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 3: And then Ben was in your wedding.

679
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 5: He was supposed to be in my wedding, but just

680
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 5: kind of I don't know. We were best friends for

681
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 5: a long time and then just kind of disappeared kind

682
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 5: of one day, and I still don't know what happened.

683
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 4: Oh, we can't relate to that, so sorry, I'm just

684
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 4: going to glossy.

685
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 2: Phil and I had a long talk about this at

686
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 2: a at a convention where we were just kind of

687
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 2: commiserating about the loss of a friend. I guess understood

688
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 2: way to put it, where the unexplained loss of a friend.

689
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 2: Let's put it that where you just kind of don't

690
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 2: know what the hell happened.

691
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 1: So yeah, hil, Yeah, So wait, did you you moved

692
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 1: into the oak Woods as your first apartment, like on

693
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 1: your own?

694
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 5: So I did. I moved there my first year. I

695
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 5: was sixteen when I moved out. Wow. I remember they

696
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 5: had all those Jackie Cougan laws back then where they

697
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 5: would lock up your money in a lock box for

698
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 5: like sixteen and eighteen, so, you know, sadly for my parents,

699
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 5: I woke up at sixteen and I had like seven

700
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 5: figures in my bank account. Was just a terrible, terrible

701
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 5: young sixteen year old that graduated high school a semester earlier,

702
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 5: a year early. And I moved in with these two

703
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 5: other actors, got in Ki Erickson, who was the kid

704
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 5: from the Commission if you remember that, Jeff, and then

705
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 5: this other guy named Chap that's last name. He married

706
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 5: Sybil Shepherd's daughter, Okay, and we lived there, you know,

707
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 5: during pilot season, and it was just absolute chaos.

708
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 1: I always asked your remember your building? Do you remember

709
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 1: what you were in?

710
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 5: So the first building I was in E and the

711
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 5: moved by the South Clubhouse the next time, I lived

712
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 5: in a studio with two other guys, two other.

713
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: Peter studio.

714
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 5: Studio apartment. It was too bad. But the Murphy so

715
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 5: this guy named Stuart Stone, well, yeah, sos Stu and

716
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 5: I lived in the bed and his buddy that that

717
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,800
Speaker 5: I met from him, Devin Salo, lived on the couch.

718
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,359
Speaker 5: The three of us literally lived in an apartment together. They

719
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 5: had just literally got off the boat from Canada. It

720
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 5: was it was very different. They were now the oak Woods,

721
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:49,280
Speaker 5: though in itself was absolute chaos. Like everyone I felt

722
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,720
Speaker 5: like lived there. It was me. It was like Jessica

723
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 5: bial was living there, Brian it was who was it?

724
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 5: I was talking with Ben Foster and Jewel State. I

725
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 5: was actually saw Ben in New York a few weeks

726
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 5: ago and we were literally talk having the conversations like

727
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,800
Speaker 5: you were like the first person I met. I moved

728
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 5: to LA I hope that's you. We were just crazy.

729
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 5: We were just kids that you know, and made this

730
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 5: money when we were kids from acting. There were no

731
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 5: absolutely no roles.

732
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was like the Island of the Lost Boys.

733
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 1: It was Thunderdome. It was great.

734
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 5: Yes, that's exactly right. That's a great analogy.

735
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, do you remember Edd Bevis.

736
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, it was los en Aga, right, it was

737
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 5: right next to the primary place.

738
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 1: Yep, the Stinking Rose.

739
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, what was the primary place called that?

740
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 3: Lowry's have Lowry's? Does the Stinking Rose still exist?

741
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 1: I think so? Maybe not.

742
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:56,280
Speaker 3: It's gone.

743
00:35:58,160 --> 00:35:59,879
Speaker 1: It's been twenty years since I went there.

744
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 5: God, so crazy, I've been there forever.

745
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 2: Well.

746
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,720
Speaker 4: We also recently watched a Halloween episode of Sabrina where,

747
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 4: for an unexplained reason, all the kids from her school dressed.

748
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 3: As James Dean and you were one of the James Dean's.

749
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 4: Did anyone else think it was weird that dozens of

750
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 4: boys dressed as James Dean in the late nineties?

751
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 5: On set, it was, you know, I think there was

752
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 5: a bunch of us in white T shirts, so like

753
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 5: the folded up shirt and jeans and okay, it was

754
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 5: a blast. She was the first season of the show,

755
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 5: and I knew Nate a little bit who was on

756
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 5: the show. And then they brought me back for another

757
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 5: episode that was a totally different role. Oh smart, So

758
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 5: I ended up doing two roles in that first season.

759
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 5: I was kind of always in a scene with the

760
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 5: Harvey character who Nate Richard played, Yeah, but then that

761
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 5: was it after that season. But another show that was

762
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 5: just you know, super fun to do, great cast. Actually

763
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 5: Melissa's kids and Eye her kids and my kids go

764
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 5: to the same school. I've seen her floating around a

765
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 5: little bit in Nashville now. But that's been a small world.

766
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,359
Speaker 5: A lot of people have moved there. Ben Foster moved

767
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 5: to Nashville now, and it's it's become quite quite a

768
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:14,760
Speaker 5: hum for people.

769
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, but how much more fun was Boy Meets World

770
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:17,760
Speaker 3: than Sabrina?

771
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:19,879
Speaker 5: Though? Way more fun?

772
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, Okay, I just wanted to make sure that we

773
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:36,839
Speaker 4: got that out of the way. So you also end

774
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 4: up on a show that comes up a lot on

775
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 4: this podcast, a Saved by the Bell style sitcom about

776
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 4: basketball Hangtime alongside Dick but Kiss, Reggie THEUS, and our

777
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 4: pal Hillary Tuck. But this one had so many cast

778
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 4: shake ups. Were you safe from those recastings or is

779
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 4: that what happened to you too?

780
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,800
Speaker 5: I was the end, so I did the last three seasons,

781
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 5: so I ended the show, so I didn't have any recasting.

782
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 5: But I came after Anthony Anderson, so I was with

783
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 5: Jay Hernandez, who was kind of the big became the

784
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 5: big name after the show, so it was myself. It

785
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 5: was still like Danielle Tucher, Danielle Ducher who ended up

786
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 5: marrying Jay Hernandez in real life. That started. That romance

787
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 5: started behind the scenes of the show. Then there was

788
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 5: Megan Parlan was I think one of the originals. Those

789
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 5: were the only two that I think, and Adam Frost

790
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 5: that stayed through all six or seven seasons. But it

791
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 5: was you know, it was part of the TGIF or

792
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 5: Whenever not TJF, Saturday Morning, RUC Thing Peter. There was

793
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 5: like City Guys and Stay by the Bell of the

794
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 5: New Class and One World and we were just one

795
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 5: of those shows. We filmed at Sunset Gower Studios and

796
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 5: tapes every week. You know. It was a blast. I

797
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 5: mean I enjoyed it. I got to play kind of

798
00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 5: this idiot role named Eugene Brown and it was kind

799
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 5: of the goofball. But for whatever reason, I always got

800
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 5: really good looking girlfriends. Yeah, it was. It was an

801
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,320
Speaker 5: absolute blast. I mean we had lots of NBA stars

802
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 5: that guest star in it, so it was pretty cool.

803
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 5: Like Kobe Bryant was on it. Wow, Tim Hardaway was

804
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 5: on when I was on it was. It was. It

805
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 5: was pretty fun. I mean we literally played basketball and

806
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 5: got to act and then you know those live but

807
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 5: you guys did it for so many years. Those live

808
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 5: audience shows are an absolute blast, especially when you record.

809
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,800
Speaker 3: Did you like playing basketball? Were you an athletic kid?

810
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 5: I enjoyed it. I wasn't great in it. I played

811
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,800
Speaker 5: more hockey than anything growing up, I was, which is

812
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 5: such a random sport for a valley kid. But I yeah,

813
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 5: there was this it's a plexwim it opened there and

814
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 5: like was that North North Hills or somewhere in there,

815
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,800
Speaker 5: like Roscoe and haven Hurst, And I used to always

816
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:53,879
Speaker 5: just like to play. When you know, when Gretzky came

817
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,439
Speaker 5: to LA, hockey got huge. Yeah, I became a huge fan.

818
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 1: And it sounds like you kind of an honorary Canadian.

819
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 1: You have so many Canadian friends. This was I did.

820
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:07,879
Speaker 5: I found the two Canadian guys. And by the way,

821
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:13,320
Speaker 5: the first two guys, kai And and Chad were also Canadian.

822
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,879
Speaker 5: So that's what a lot of the oak Woods were though.

823
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:20,240
Speaker 5: There was a massive Canadian population because that's where everyone

824
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 5: would like come for pilot season and audition.

825
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:24,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

826
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess you could say, Canadian.

827
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 7: I lived with those guys, second with Devin and Stewart

828
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 7: for almost three years. Because we moved out of the

829
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 7: oak Woods to this I bought a town home and

830
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 7: in sinow.

831
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 5: Man. You know, it's pretty crazy there as well.

832
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 3: I can only I can imagine. Are you still in

833
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 3: touch with either of them?

834
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,319
Speaker 5: I still talked to Stewart all the time. I talked

835
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 5: to Devon here and there, not as much as I

836
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 5: used to back in the day, but I still talk

837
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 5: to him. But Stewart and I will main friends for

838
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,839
Speaker 5: a long time. You still He's a directs a show

839
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 5: now wrestling show. He travels to the country view it.

840
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 3: I know, and I Stu and I have been in touch.

841
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 3: I love Stu.

842
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, Stu. Stu is like the guy that you there's

843
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 5: something wrong with if you don't like Stewart. It's the

844
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 5: nicest human being. He's a good say. Him and I

845
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 5: have always remained friends like we all still get along,

846
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:20,879
Speaker 5: you know, obviously, I just don't. I just don't see

847
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 5: that this much anymore. He's he's When I left California, man,

848
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 5: I moved to Tennessee. It was in the proof all

849
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 5: I saw where like Stuart did a bunch of my movies.

850
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 5: When I started producing.

851
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 3: How did you make the jump to producing?

852
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 5: You know, I was doing after Hangtime ended. I was

853
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 5: a little kind of like acting. It wasn't like the

854
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 5: most exciting show in the world to do. It wasn't

855
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 5: Boy Meets World. Naturally, you guys asked me to be

856
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 5: a regular. So I went and did a movie that

857
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,760
Speaker 5: I got from the show, which was called Poolhall Junkies.

858
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 5: It was a really fun movie I did with Michael

859
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 5: Roseenbaum Christopher Walking, and it was actually Steiner's last movie,

860
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:03,919
Speaker 5: and it was so much fun to make this movie.

861
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 5: It became like a really cool independent movie, more of

862
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 5: a cold class than a big release. I'm like, you

863
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:12,919
Speaker 5: know that this is a great way to go out.

864
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:18,720
Speaker 5: Movie's awesome. I'm in my early twenties and my brother

865
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 5: had already moved on to behind the scenes. And you know,

866
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 5: I did really well in like international sales, and I

867
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 5: went to ask his advice. I was going to film

868
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 5: school at UCLA, trying to do all this at the

869
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 5: same time, of course, which was hard, right, And I

870
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 5: asked his sort of advice, like what do I do?

871
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 5: Should I you know, I'm thinking I tried doing directing

872
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 5: the film school wasn't really my thing, not much of

873
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 5: a writer. But he's like, look, you could produce and

874
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 5: I said, okay, cool. So I said, well, how do

875
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 5: I do this? And he's like, I going to help

876
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 5: you get a job in international sales. And I'm like,

877
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 5: I don't want to do international sales. I want to produce,

878
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 5: and he's like, trust me do international sales. So kind

879
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 5: of after going back and forth, he said to me,

880
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 5: what do you think is the most important thing about

881
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 5: being a producer And I said, making a good movie,

882
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 5: says incorrect. He's like, making your investors money back, yep,

883
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 5: that's how you keep producing films. And I'm like it

884
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 5: was the best advice I ever got, and I did it.

885
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 5: I took his advice and I sold international licenses for

886
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 5: movies for about eighteen months to two years, and then

887
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 5: that company got bought by a German company that I

888
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 5: was working for called Splendid Pictures. I went in and

889
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 5: moved over to their production side and just kind of

890
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 5: worked my way up on that side from the studio level,

891
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 5: and they were part of They had to deal with

892
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 5: MGM Wow, and the first movie I was working on,

893
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 5: my boss I was, you know, essentially his junior executive.

894
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 5: But and so usually you go to set, you know,

895
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 5: and sort of be the studio producer whenever. And I

896
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 5: get set sent in this movie called narc with Raleiona

897
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 5: and Jason Patrick. Sure. I had no idea. I've never

898
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 5: done it before a producing perspective, and I just kind

899
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:00,439
Speaker 5: of figured it out, you know, sometime was the best

900
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 5: way to learn is just to put yourself there. Yeah,

901
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 5: And I was the studio sort of representing for the film.

902
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 5: The movie obviously gets in the sun Dance and some

903
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 5: awards then came out in theaters. It was Joe Carnahan's

904
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 5: first movie that they ever directed, and it was just

905
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 5: from there on, I just kind of wok with it

906
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 5: and I just fell in love with it. I'm like,

907
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 5: this is kind of like, to me, movies as a

908
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 5: producer was like a giant messed up Ribbik's cube. The

909
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 5: more messed up it was, the more exciting was to

910
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 5: sort of put back together. And that's just sort of

911
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,359
Speaker 5: got me into it. And I just started working and

912
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 5: doing it and doing one after the other, first for

913
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 5: the studios, and I went out independently and then started

914
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 5: doing overhead deals with studios and I did it for

915
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 5: it's been almost twenty years now.

916
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 1: All right, So it's it sounds like you've done all

917
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 1: different types of producing and I mean, you know, producer

918
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 1: is one of those titles that like I feel like,

919
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 1: you know, people in the industry kind of understand, but

920
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 1: even even within the industry, it's hard to understand. But

921
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 1: certainly outside of the industry, it can mean a variety

922
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 1: of different roles. It's a catcher, yeah, right, So it's

923
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 1: coming from like the executive side or the studio side,

924
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 1: and you've also have been like an on set producer.

925
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 1: It sounds like, so what do you what is what

926
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 1: do you like to do, what kind of producing do

927
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 1: you love to do? What do you try? And like

928
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 1: what is your goal?

929
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 5: I have to be there to get my hands dirty,

930
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 5: to be on set, I think to me, as an actor,

931
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 5: I hated producers that were mailing it in or we're

932
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 5: sitting in their trailer or not. They weren't good enough

933
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,879
Speaker 5: to come to set for that day when the star

934
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 5: wasn't there. I don't work that way. I've always operated

935
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,359
Speaker 5: different that when I start a movie, you know, I'll

936
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 5: meet with my top sort of five or seven leads,

937
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 5: dinner with them and just have a conversation with them

938
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 5: and say, like, what kind of set do you like,

939
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 5: what's your world, what's your environment, Just to get to

940
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 5: know them a little bit better because we all have

941
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 5: different personalities, and because that's the one thing no one

942
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,359
Speaker 5: ever did for me as an actor. Obviously a big

943
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 5: enough starter warrant that, but it's so important because we

944
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 5: have such different lifestyle that we all come from. But

945
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 5: to me, if you can get that right and I

946
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 5: can help lead my crew to have a better understanding

947
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 5: when the show starts, it makes a much different show.

948
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,839
Speaker 5: People work better together, you can understand people like stuff

949
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,439
Speaker 5: goes wrong. But you know, we're dealing with the show

950
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 5: that I'm working on right now. You know it's I

951
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:23,320
Speaker 5: came and I did the same exact thing, and it's

952
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:26,399
Speaker 5: been such a great from what I've heard from last

953
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,800
Speaker 5: season to this season, not into the first season of

954
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 5: the show. It's such a different environment.

955
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 3: What show are you working on right now?

956
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 5: It's it's a show on Paramount Plus called mob Land,

957
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 5: Oh with Tom Hardy, Helen Muir and in Pierce Brosan.

958
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 3: Wow, people love this.

959
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 5: Yet it's a great show. It was a monster last year,

960
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 5: big hit, and I was doing another show for the

961
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 5: company called Mayor of Kingstown, the Jeremy Renner. I produced

962
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 5: that last season. So we did really good with our

963
00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 5: numbers and they said, hey, do you want to come

964
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,800
Speaker 5: produce one, but you have to go to London. I'm like, absolutely,

965
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 5: you know, I love the show and it's been here.

966
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 5: We started filming a couple of weeks.

967
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 2: Ago and yeah, Phil, Phil told me at the convention

968
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 2: we were at that he was going to go with me,

969
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 2: and at the last second they decided Pierce Brosnan was

970
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 2: the way to go for the crazy.

971
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 5: We had to go a little older.

972
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 1: I fig and I get it.

973
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 2: No no, no two good looking for cameras when I

974
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 2: think you said for me, yeah.

975
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 5: Oh man, craziness.

976
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 4: Well, one of your other first big producing credits was

977
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 4: on The Illusionist, starring Ed Norton, Paul Jamadi, and Jessica Biel.

978
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 1: Or was it, Danielle.

979
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 4: I know, I want to know how much of your

980
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 4: time back then was spent explaining to people that The

981
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 4: Illusionist and The Prestige were different, different movies.

982
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 5: That was, and by the way, that was the box

983
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 5: office success of The Illusionists. It was a smaller company

984
00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 5: that released it, and they knew if they wanted this

985
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 5: movie win, they had to release it first. That's really

986
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 5: the truth. They both were excellent movies, but the Illusionists

987
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 5: got to the box office first, and that's why I

988
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 5: crushed the Prestige.

989
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 2: So this was an Armageddon deep impact kind of situation.

990
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:14,320
Speaker 1: Yeah.

991
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 5: Correct. We had an independent studio versus studio. It was

992
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 5: this group called Yari Film Group and nobody really ever

993
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:23,320
Speaker 5: heard of. And you know, we made other good movies

994
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 5: there because I had overhead deal there, and like Crash,

995
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 5: they made Crash, they made, you know, a bunch of

996
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 5: other good stuff. This movie. I made another movie with

997
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 5: them with Jamie Kennedy called Kicking It on School there

998
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 5: and they're like, oh, we got to get this out quick,

999
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 5: otherwise we're going to get crushed. It was Christian Bale

1000
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 5: and Prestige Coming Out was also excellent. Both good movies,

1001
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 5: and we filmed them pro in Prague and it's literally

1002
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 5: it was such a regunion because I hadn't seen Jessica

1003
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 5: Bill since the Oak years and we we we we

1004
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:58,879
Speaker 5: ran into each other on that so it was kind

1005
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:02,879
Speaker 5: of fun see everybody and just it was an astonishing movie.

1006
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 5: It was really good. No idea.

1007
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 2: As you're sitting on these sets, You're you're sitting there

1008
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 2: with you know, these huge actors and these these you know,

1009
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 2: big productions. Do you ever get the itch is the

1010
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 2: hands start twitching again where it's like, oh, man, I

1011
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,240
Speaker 2: maybe I would have done that part a little differently,

1012
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 2: or if I could just jump in front of that.

1013
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 1: Camera one more time. Is that something you ever deal with?

1014
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 5: It's come up a lot. It's usually one of the

1015
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,839
Speaker 5: other actors because search do two lines of this just

1016
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 5: my director, and I'm like, you know, I can't. I

1017
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 5: just you know what, it was a chapter. It was

1018
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,800
Speaker 5: an amazing part of my life. I wouldn't be doing

1019
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 5: this now if it wasn't for first, first and foremost

1020
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 5: Boy Meets World, then Fible whatever.

1021
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 1: Really did it for you?

1022
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 5: It did Listen they said, you know, look you're good. Great,

1023
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 5: that's why that's why you're not a regular well you

1024
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 5: to Peter Endel, so like, you know, it just it

1025
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 5: was that thing that I'm just like, you know, I

1026
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 5: was so happy with everything that I accomplished, you know,

1027
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 5: my first twenty years doing being in the show business

1028
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 5: and being an actor, that there was nothing to look

1029
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 5: back at. I started to feel it. Obviously, it's later

1030
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 5: in years, my later acting years. It was actually I

1031
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 5: think the last time I saw you, Danielle was at

1032
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 5: in Sync concert when you were dating. Yeah, I came

1033
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:33,439
Speaker 5: to Universal Amphitheater and then I came and like, look

1034
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 5: this up. We went backstage and everything, and that sort

1035
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 5: of like for me, I was a few years older

1036
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 5: than Ben, so I was just like, you know, I

1037
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,360
Speaker 5: don't know of acting then, not that I started to

1038
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,319
Speaker 5: like sort of feel up there and I was still

1039
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 5: doing a show. I was on hang Time at the time,

1040
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:51,760
Speaker 5: but that was kind of like one of the first

1041
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 5: things that I'm like, I don't know if this is

1042
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:55,839
Speaker 5: my thing. I love all the stuff that comes with it,

1043
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 5: but I don't know if it was designed for me.

1044
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 5: And then I kind of was waked watching people do things,

1045
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 5: and I started paying more close attention to producers to

1046
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 5: directors as I was getting older in my early twenties. Yeah,

1047
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 5: I'm like, yeah, maybe this is for me. And like

1048
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 5: I said, my big brother, who's had a massive success

1049
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 5: in this business, you know, was my sort of my

1050
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:20,879
Speaker 5: guiding lights kind of point me that way.

1051
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 4: So great, awesome, everyone is obviously concerned about the future

1052
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 4: of Hollywood. You have made both studio films and independent movies.

1053
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 4: Where do you see things going.

1054
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:36,919
Speaker 5: Well, Look, it's it's harder to make an indie movie nowadays,

1055
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:40,280
Speaker 5: but the studio movies aren't made like they used to be. Obviously,

1056
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 5: streamings kind of taken over the platform as we've seen,

1057
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 5: and the streaming has become the new sort of television.

1058
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 5: And you know by a lot of the shows that

1059
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 5: I've been working on, we're bringing the movie stars into

1060
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 5: TV now.

1061
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:52,799
Speaker 2: Yep.

1062
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 5: So it's making it a little more difficult to do

1063
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 5: these movies because they'd rather do these TV shows. They

1064
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 5: do ten episodeses and make the same money they're going

1065
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 5: to make, if not more, on a movie that they

1066
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,919
Speaker 5: have to spend six months doing, right, we can shoot

1067
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 5: them out in three or four months. So it's hard.

1068
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,319
Speaker 5: I mean, Look, the biggest key that I think they're

1069
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 5: doing a really good job to try to keep off is,

1070
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:18,879
Speaker 5: you know, keep AI under control, and that could be

1071
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 5: that could be obviously a concern for everyone. But the

1072
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 5: competition of the TV show now, it's it's so different

1073
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 5: from when we were doing it growing up. It's like,

1074
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 5: I make a movie every week on this show, I

1075
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 5: don't make a TV show. You the first two episodes

1076
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 5: of the season, Guy Ritchie is directing. So you have

1077
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 5: this massive director directing. Who's he's you know directing? You know,

1078
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 5: these massive budgets with three movie stars, right, And then

1079
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 5: I sit there and I watch behind the monitor and

1080
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 5: I'm first of all, I'm like, still like a kid

1081
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:53,399
Speaker 5: in the Candy Star. I'm like, I'm working with three

1082
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 5: movie stars. Yeah, who are Just to watch the chemistry?

1083
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 5: I mean, Helen Mirren blows my mind. I think the

1084
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Speaker 5: balanted my wife.

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Speaker 2: My wife often says I'm the She's the only one

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Speaker 2: that she's worried about for me leaving her is Helen Mirren.

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Speaker 5: You know what's funny. I get this from all my friends.

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00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 5: You're not wrong. They all they'll make the same They're like, dude,

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00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:19,319
Speaker 5: Ela Miron is so hot. Dude, you're so lucky. I'm like,

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Speaker 5: you know what, Yeah she is. You're right, She's an

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Speaker 5: absolute sweetheart.

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Speaker 1: That's awesome.

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00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:26,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's been. It's been a blast.

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Speaker 3: Philip.

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Speaker 4: If you could go back in time and tell young

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Speaker 4: Philip on the set of Boy Meets World, completely immersed

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Speaker 4: in the role of Ubaldo, if you could tell him

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Speaker 4: one thing, what would you go back and tell young you,

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00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:42,839
Speaker 4: I should have.

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Speaker 5: Done something to become a regular on this show. I

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00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:48,400
Speaker 5: think I could knocked into you, Baldo, because I loved

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00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 5: working on your show. I think that's why I really

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00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:53,359
Speaker 5: screwed it up. I didn't show anything where Michael went. Yes,

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Speaker 5: that's sick Glass. I see what Spielburg saw. I think

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Speaker 5: if I would have on back, I would have. You know,

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Speaker 5: maybe maybe some Shakespeare classes got a little bit more

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Speaker 5: thespian into you. Ball though, should really take him over

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Speaker 5: the top.

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Speaker 4: Is there something about the three of our careers that

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00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 4: make you think you could have done better had you

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Speaker 4: been a regular on.

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Speaker 1: Boy Meets World.

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Speaker 3: I'm a little.

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Speaker 4: Confused about why that feels like such an accomplishment.

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00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 1: You too, could be on Dancing with the Stars right now.

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00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,360
Speaker 4: You could have been eliminated from Dancing with the Stars

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00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 4: in week eight while hosting multiple podcasts and being said.

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00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 3: True, I mean, you couldn't be doing this.

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00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 2: I've been in the same underwear since last week, so

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Speaker 2: you know what, I.

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Speaker 5: Just think I was watching you guys. You guys have

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Speaker 5: such a good vibe on that ship.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we are going back.

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Speaker 5: You know, I come back for other tapings just when

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Speaker 5: I was just through the years, I'd come to see you guys,

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Speaker 5: you know, just being friends of bed whatever. You guys

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00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 5: are doing your take guide and watch and then we'd

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Speaker 5: go out after or something like that. But you know,

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Speaker 5: you guys just always nice. You like, you know, you

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Speaker 5: do a lot of these shows and you're a guest star.

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Speaker 5: At times, it started the showing to talk to you. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: you know you can get on some of these shows.

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Speaker 5: You guys weren't like that at all. I like literally

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Speaker 5: remember talking to you, talking to Will then writer and

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00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 5: I were talking about Lia Miz. Like, you know, there

1136
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 5: was instant stuff to talk about with people, and you

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00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 5: know that's a super comfortable thing when you're a guest star. Yeah,

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00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 5: you don't get that on every show. I promise you that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah that makes sense.

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Speaker 4: Well, Philip, thank you for taking some time out of

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Speaker 4: your very busy schedule working on a most credible show

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Speaker 4: with absolute movie stars. I am just so grateful you

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Speaker 4: came and spent your time. It was nice to reconnect

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Speaker 4: with you, and gosh, I hope we get to see

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Speaker 4: you again in person when we have our next pod

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Speaker 4: meets World, slash Boy meets World Shindig hangout, which will

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Speaker 4: either be at writer or Will's house.

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Speaker 3: We hope you'll We hope you'll be there.

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Speaker 5: I would love to. I'm here. I'm here in London

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Speaker 5: till March, and then I'm back in the States for

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Speaker 5: a bit. Otherwise my wife will stab me.

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Speaker 4: Yeah right, say that's a long time. You're there till March.

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Speaker 4: Does she get to come visit?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? So I have three boys. My oldest is twenty

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Speaker 5: and twenty one. Both those guys live in New York

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00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 5: and I have a thirteen year old that we adopted

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Speaker 5: at birth. He's still in school and so he's a

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00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:24,399
Speaker 5: he plays football and he loves football. But they try

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Speaker 5: to come, like you get like the four day weekends

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00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 5: for the flat for that because you can fly next

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00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:31,880
Speaker 5: thing now, Nashville is so big, you fly straight on

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00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 5: them from there. Yeah, they're going to come to Thanksgetting

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Speaker 5: week and then we're going to go down to Paris

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Speaker 5: or take to take my little guy to euro Disney.

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Speaker 5: He's never been there.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, the week, it's going to be so great.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. So it's it's you know, and I try to

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Speaker 5: get home when I can. This show is just so

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Speaker 5: complicated to figure out my schedule with but I try

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Speaker 5: to get home as much as I can. It's it's worked.

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Speaker 5: I've been doing it three much of their life, you know,

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Speaker 5: producing all these films and stuff and tea. Get a

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Speaker 5: little bit more of an organized schedule, which I like

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Speaker 5: more than an independent movie. You have no idea what happened, right,

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00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 5: but it's been great. It's you know, I've been married

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00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 5: twenty five years. Super happy about it.

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Speaker 3: Congratulations, what a success.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, thank you very much. Thanks for having me on. Well,

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Speaker 5: thanks for reaching out.

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Speaker 1: This is of course. Of course we'll keep talking.

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Speaker 2: And my wife and I love London, so the next

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Speaker 2: time we're there, hopefully you'll be there and we'll go

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Speaker 2: to jim Conna for the night.

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Speaker 5: Listen. I have a two bedroom apartment. You got a

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Speaker 5: three room to stay.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's awesome, Marl.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Philip. It was great to see you.

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Speaker 1: Good to see you man.

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Speaker 5: It's great seeing you guys.

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Speaker 4: Okay, bye, Wow to hear he is a twenty two

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Speaker 4: year old and a twenty one year old.

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Speaker 5: I know.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, so it's so smart to have kids younger.

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Speaker 3: God didn't do so much.

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Speaker 1: There's one thing to do with than that.

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Speaker 5: Even Yeah, the kids at all.

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Speaker 1: I know, we know, we know, we know, but man,

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Speaker 1: what a career.

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Speaker 3: Here's what a career.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the fact that he went from I

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Speaker 1: mean because his brother was absolutely right. International sales is

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00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 1: where you learn the nuts and bolts of like how

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00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 1: movies actually get financed, how movies actually make money. It's

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Speaker 1: so smart. The fact that he went there first and

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00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 1: then went back to set worked his way back to

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Speaker 1: being on set means that he's got like the ultimate

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Speaker 1: producer's overview, like he's experienced it all right. And I

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Speaker 1: love that his attention is still about actors on set

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Speaker 1: and artistry like being there. It's so impressive. What a

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Speaker 1: cool dude he is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we hung out. I forget where we were. It

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Speaker 2: might have even been in Nashville, but he was great.

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Speaker 4: It's so amazing how many different jobs in the entertainment industry.

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Speaker 4: If you've been an actor first, just it completely changes

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Speaker 4: the way you approach what you do. Yes, and that

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Speaker 4: so much of what that entails is setting the right environment,

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Speaker 4: absolutely creating an atmosphere on set that people want to

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Speaker 4: work hard to be a part of.

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Speaker 5: YEP.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, like I was thinking about even him

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Speaker 4: just saying he takes he takes a few people to dinner,

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Speaker 4: five to seven people to dinner and talks to them

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Speaker 4: about where they're coming from and what kind of environment

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00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 4: they want to have on set. Think about how just

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00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 4: that one meeting maybe three to four hours, if you're

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Speaker 4: having a real long dinner, three to four hours of

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Speaker 4: your time and maybe some you know, a little chunk

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00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 4: of change on a nice meal changes your entire production.

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Speaker 4: You now go into this feeling like a part of

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00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 4: a team where someone has your back, and even if

1231
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 4: something does go wrong, you're like, we can.

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Speaker 3: Make it work.

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00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 4: I just you know, like it just creates it changes everything.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. No, when my brother and I were directing a

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Speaker 1: pilot and we had a twelve year old kid starring

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Speaker 1: and he was like in every scene, and like the

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Speaker 1: second we got the kid cast, we were like, all right,

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Speaker 1: we got to go to dinner with him and his parents.

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Speaker 3: Uh huh.

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Speaker 1: And our producers were like what why, And even the

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00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 1: parents were like, wait, the directors want us to be there,

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Speaker 1: and we were like, yes, we want to go, and

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Speaker 1: we did. We had like the greatest dinner with his

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Speaker 1: mom and his dad and him and like everything else

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Speaker 1: was gravy. Like the rest of the production was so

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01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 1: smooth because we could just turn to them and be

1247
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:09,480
Speaker 1: like hey, and it was like this instant camaraderie in

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01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 1: the sense of like we're on your side, parents, and

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01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:14,520
Speaker 1: we're on this kid's side, we have his back. And

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01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 1: then they were committed and we were just it was

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01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 1: off to the racist, but it was one of those things.

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01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 1: It's like we only knew that because we had been

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01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 1: kids where our parents had been ignored on a set

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01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:23,840
Speaker 1: or we had not felt welcome or comfortable, and it

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01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 1: changes everything.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, totally, totally.

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Speaker 5: Wow.

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Speaker 4: Well, thank you all for joining us for this episode

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Speaker 4: of Pod Meets World. As always, you can follow us

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Speaker 1: something because I'm a man. Buye some merg I remember

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Speaker 1: what it is? Yeah, something about it? Yeah exactly.

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