1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:01,600 Speaker 1: Welcome. 2 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 2: It is Verdict with Center, Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with 3 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 2: you and for many of you listening on the radio 4 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 2: right now, it is so nice to have. 5 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: You with us as well. I hope you had a 6 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: great Christmas. 7 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 2: And it depending on when you hear this, either getting 8 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 2: ready for New Year's or a happy New Year. 9 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 1: Center. 10 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 2: We have a brand new listener to the show, and 11 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,600 Speaker 2: since we are on video, I just thought i'd let 12 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 2: everybody know that we have a brand new listener. Welcome 13 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 2: to the family, the Verdict family. That is my friends Bertie, 14 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 2: the new puppy. She has been sitting up here quiet 15 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 2: for an hour as we've been getting ready, but I 16 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 2: wanted everybody can say hi. There we go, say hi 17 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 2: to everybody. That's Bertie for you. 18 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 3: Okay, so Bertie? Who named Bertie? What's Bertie short for 19 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 3: so Bertie? 20 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 2: You know my family's the boys are a bunch of golfers, 21 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 2: and so Bertie was the chosen Georgie. Georgie was like, 22 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 2: can we name her Bertie? And it just stuck and 23 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 2: that's the end of it. So there you go. We 24 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 2: got a new listener, Bertie. And you should watch the 25 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 2: video of because Birdie's are a lot cuterer than I am, 26 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 2: that's for. 27 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:04,639 Speaker 3: Sure, all right. How surprised were the boys? 28 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 2: They freaked out Sinater, they were so excited. So he 29 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 2: woke up. The boys had been asked, He asked Santa, 30 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 2: and so George woke up and we're doing presents and 31 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 2: anted to throw them off. Put a stuffy of a 32 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 2: dog in their stockings so that they thought, like, you 33 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:22,119 Speaker 2: got a dog. 34 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 1: Like you asked for a dog, you got a dog. 35 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 2: And George just started walking around the house looking under 36 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,119 Speaker 2: things trying to find a dog. And then my mother 37 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 2: in law ended up bringing the dog over in a 38 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 2: box and we delivered it and they freaked out. 39 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 3: It was pretty old, so it was the bucks wrapped 40 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 3: like how was the reveal? 41 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 2: So that they had a big red bow and they 42 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 2: went on a scavenger hunt that we had done and 43 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 2: put different envelopes, and the last envelope brought them back 44 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 2: to where the tree was, so we snuck her in 45 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 2: the back door, had her in a box the big 46 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 2: bow on top, and then they all came running in 47 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 2: the room and then they got the box and opened 48 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 2: it and the dog was there. 49 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: So we did it right. It was all caught on video. 50 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: It was really really fun. 51 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 3: Well, Merry Christmas, and that is awesome. There's nothing better 52 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 3: than a new puppy at Christmas. And I hope everyone 53 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 3: at home had a fantastic Christmas and your New Year's 54 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 3: I hope that everyone is ready for an incredible blessed 55 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 3: twenty twenty six. Looking forward into what I hope will 56 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 3: be a fantastic New Year twenty twenty five, A lot 57 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 3: of good has been accomplished in twenty twenty five. We've 58 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 3: seen the Trump administration moving at laser speed, a thousand 59 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 3: different on a thousand different fronts, all at once. In Congress, 60 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 3: the legislation, we've had conservative victories. In fact, if you 61 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 3: listened to an earlier podcast, we went through the major 62 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 3: conservative victories this year. It's breathtaking everything that's been accomplished. 63 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 3: And so as we're wrapping up the year and starting 64 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 3: a new one, it's a good time to reflect on 65 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 3: all that. 66 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 2: And Centera, I guess we should really start with these 67 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 2: shocking news coming out of Minnesota. 68 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: Everyone's talking about it. 69 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 2: We've talked about on the podcast this week, and if 70 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,239 Speaker 2: you're listening on radio, go back and you can listen 71 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 2: to those shows wherever you get your podcast. But what 72 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 2: was shocking was how fast the numbers grew and the 73 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 2: size of this fraud. Early on, people were saying, it's 74 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 2: a billion dollar fraud that is now exploited. In nine 75 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:14,239 Speaker 2: plus billion, they expect to find even more. The FBI 76 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 2: director Cash Bertel has said they believe it's the tip 77 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 2: of a very large iceberg, and we're seeing other fraud 78 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 2: schemes are being exposed in other states as well as 79 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 2: we speak. 80 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. Look, I got to say, as scandals go, this 81 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 3: is one that should really piss you off. It is 82 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 3: outrageous on so many different levels. If you look at 83 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 3: what's been been uncovered in Minnesota in the last several years, 84 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 3: Minnesota's total medicaid budget was about eighteen billion dollars. The 85 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 3: Department of Justice is reporting that more than half of 86 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 3: that more than nine billion, may well be fraudulent. People 87 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 3: are being prosecuted. And then we covered the most recent podcast. 88 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 3: An independent YouTuber, a twenty three year old guy named 89 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 3: Nick Shirley, went and started going down the list of 90 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 3: daycare centers that were receiving millions and millions of dollars 91 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 3: from the Minnesota taxpayers, and he started showing up to 92 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 3: the daycare centers and he videoed the whole thing, and 93 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 3: in our last pod, we went through that video in detail. 94 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 3: If you haven't watched that video, it's had now over 95 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,919 Speaker 3: one hundred million views, it has gone viral. And he 96 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 3: simply would knock on the doors. In many of the 97 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 3: instances the doors were locked, there was no one there. 98 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 3: Virtually everyone he attended the doors were blacked out, the 99 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 3: windows were blacked out, you couldn't see. And the consistent 100 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 3: pattern at daycare after daycare after daycare was no kids. 101 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,919 Speaker 3: There were no kids. He kept trying to enroll a child. 102 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 3: They're like, no, no, no, no, we can't do that. We 103 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 3: don't do that. And the pattern we've seen this this 104 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 3: is overwhelmingly Somali's immigrants from Somalia who are engaged in 105 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 3: this massive fraud. And you see this group of Somalis 106 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 3: surrounding Nick Shorter and yelling at him and chasing him 107 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 3: through the neighborho because they're very upset that their fraud 108 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 3: has been uncovered. We covered on on Verdict early on 109 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 3: that this fraud resulted in the single largest funder of 110 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 3: Al Shabab, which is a radical Islamic terror group in 111 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:20,919 Speaker 3: Somalia is the Minnesota taxpayers. That's how big this fraud is. 112 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 3: And and so we want to break down on today's 113 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 3: podcast multiple pieces of it. Number one, what went on? 114 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 3: Number two, what are the consequences? Who is going to 115 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 3: be fired? And even more importantly, who's who is going 116 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 3: to be put in jail? Because there needs to be 117 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 3: real accountability. And number three who benefited? Why was this 118 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 3: allowed to happen? All of those are questions. And number 119 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 3: four why did did the corporate media cover it up? 120 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 3: Ignore it? They have no interest whatsoever in it. They 121 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 3: will track down everything they can about Donald Trump, but 122 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 3: actually Democrats and Somali immigrants stealing billions of dollars from 123 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 3: the taxpayers, zero interests in the corporate media and covering 124 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 3: that at all. 125 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 2: You know, the Democrats by the way, on their Hills 126 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 2: Center because they've gone back to their playbook, which they 127 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 2: always go back to when they're challenged with facts, and 128 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 2: that is the name call. And we saw this happen 129 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 2: on mainstream media. We saw this happen on MS now 130 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 2: where they're now saying and on CNN, how dare you 131 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 2: demonize a smalley community that is racist? You cannot ask 132 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 2: these questions of a community like this because it's clearly 133 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 2: racist in his tone. Here is how ms Now described 134 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 2: it on TV, saying it's just unfair and the Republicans 135 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:39,799 Speaker 2: are just evil and mean spirited. 136 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: Take a listen to this. 137 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 4: The question is, you know, why is this a priority? 138 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 4: In a different kind of way, the politicization of the 139 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 4: DOJ and the FBI is undeniable, So whether they are 140 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 4: reliable narrators is the big question. And this is what 141 00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 4: happens when you weaponize and politicize federally agencies that are 142 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 4: not meant to be you know, politicized. And I think 143 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 4: the American people are right to ask the question, well, 144 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 4: can we trust you? And that's a sad thing to 145 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 4: say as an American. Let's recall too that there's also 146 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 4: other scandals in other states, for example, the Mississippi welfare scandal, 147 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 4: and this is not unique to politics. Americans know that. 148 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 4: But of course, the other factor here is that because 149 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 4: it looks like the Somali population in Minnesota, the Somali 150 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 4: immigrant population may have been at some involved in some way, 151 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 4: those people are being scapegoaded, and that community is being 152 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 4: scapegoaded in a way that certainly serves the far right, 153 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 4: and so that's also something to keep an eye on. 154 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 4: And that's inappropriate. 155 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 5: Absolutely. 156 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 2: I love that she says it's inappropriate that the semi 157 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 2: communitias she describes it might be involved in some way, like. 158 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 3: May have been involved, maybe just kind of like you 159 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 3: go down to your list of one after the other 160 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 3: after the other, of these fake daycare centers, of these 161 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 3: fake autism centers, one after the other after the other. 162 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 3: By the way, that was Mara Gay. Mara Gay is 163 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 3: on the editorial board of The New York Times. I 164 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 3: think it is laughable listening to her talking about people 165 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 3: have lost faith in the Department of Justice and that's 166 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 3: just sad because they're politicized and bias number one. Her employer, 167 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 3: The New York Times and her employer MSNBC or whatever 168 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 3: the hell it's called now are so wildly biased that 169 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 3: everyone knows it. But understand, this is an individual who 170 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 3: a few years ago she said publicly that she was 171 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 3: deeply disturbed to see American flags on trucks in Long Island, 172 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 3: that the American flag disturbed her. That's how biased she is. 173 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 3: And look at the media desperately trying to cover up 174 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 3: the thieves, the fraudsters, and the Democrats. That is who 175 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 3: they're fighting for. 176 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 1: Senata. 177 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 2: I want to get back to this argument the left 178 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:56,479 Speaker 2: has now gone all in on with you cannot criticize 179 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 2: a smiley community because if you do, it's racist. I 180 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 2: want people to really understand this daycare fraud is not 181 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 2: like a few people involved, and there's been some that 182 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 2: I think of mischaracterized as well. It's just maybe one 183 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 2: or two bad actors. They open up a daycare, they 184 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 2: commit fraud. No, they have others in the Somali community 185 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 2: that are allowing their children's names to be used as 186 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 2: a participant in the fraud and apparently getting kickbacks. In fact, 187 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 2: there are videos they're servicing of people that were bringing 188 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 2: their kids and checking them in them leaving so the 189 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 2: state would write checks to daycare centers. This has been 190 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 2: going on four years. There have been multiple warnings about this, 191 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 2: and when there was no accountability, no one was going 192 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 2: to jail. It started growing bigger and bigger because basically 193 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 2: everybody thought, I think, hey, we can do it, bring 194 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 2: everybody in, we'll all get rich off of it. And 195 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 2: literally to the tune of billions of dollars they did. 196 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 3: It north of nine billion dollars, and this is money 197 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 3: that was scammed primarily by Somali fraudsters. They were taking 198 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:00,200 Speaker 3: the money, billions of dollars. They were sending much it 199 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 3: back to Somali. As I said, millions, if not hundreds 200 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 3: of millions of it ended up in the coffers of 201 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:09,319 Speaker 3: Al Shabab where they used it for radical Islamic terrorism. 202 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 3: You see in Nick Shirley's video you see the Somali community, 203 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 3: all like members of them coming up and trying to 204 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,199 Speaker 3: do wherever they can to cover up the fraud. And 205 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 3: you know, we just played a few minutes ago Marrigay 206 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 3: on MSNBC and from The New York Times saying, well, 207 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 3: some Somalis may have been involved. Let's talk about accountability. 208 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:33,079 Speaker 3: Here's what Pam Bondi put out. The Justice Department has 209 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 3: been investigating this for months. So far, we have charged 210 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 3: ninety eight individuals, eighty five of Somali descent, and more 211 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 3: than sixty have been found guilty in court. We have 212 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 3: more prosecutions coming. Buckle up, lawmakers, now, now let me say, 213 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 3: when you have ninety eight people charged by the Department 214 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 3: of Justice, eighty five of them of Somali descent and 215 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 3: sixty already found guilty. How the hell can she say 216 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 3: some Somalis may have been involved. No, they've been criminally prosecuted, 217 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 3: They've been caught. There's no dispute. But when you're a 218 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 3: professional liar, which is what the fake news does, they 219 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 3: don't deal in the world of facts, and you talk 220 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:19,559 Speaker 3: about accountability, Look, doj is coming after them. But I 221 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 3: also want to talk about what Cash Pateel put out 222 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 3: from the FBI. Cash Patel went to Minnesota in July 223 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:31,439 Speaker 3: to oversee the investigations to confirm that progress was being made, 224 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,719 Speaker 3: and he said the investigation some of the investigations were 225 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:39,839 Speaker 3: opened under the Biden administration, but he also said they 226 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 3: were buried because they implicate Biden political allies. Between late 227 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 3: May twenty twenty five and December twenty twenty five, the 228 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 3: FBI had sixteen open investigations into approximately thirty two healthcare 229 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:01,839 Speaker 3: and home care providers accused of fraud and and he 230 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 3: described a massive joint investigation including HHS Inspector, General, Medicaid 231 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 3: Fraud Unit, ir S, Postal Inspectors, Minnesota Attorney General, Minnesota 232 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 3: Department of Education. And by the way, it's not just 233 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:19,959 Speaker 3: limited to Minnesota. They are expanding nationwide, and we're getting 234 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 3: reports online of other states like Washington, states like New York, 235 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 3: like California where these same problems have been happening. And 236 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 3: what is critical is to follow the money and and 237 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 3: to go after that. Uh, to go after them. And 238 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 3: I'm very glad we're beginning to see accountability. But let 239 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 3: me tell you, the accountability better not stop with just 240 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 3: the thieves. 241 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, with a low level. 242 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 3: The accountability, and it certainly needs to include the masterminders 243 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 3: and the funders, but it also needs to include the 244 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 3: government officials in the Minnesota state government, of the federal 245 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 3: government that acquiesced to this that look the other way 246 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:05,319 Speaker 3: that covered it up. It is so blazingly obvious that 247 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 3: there is a reason that this has happened. And look, 248 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 3: there is obviously fraud in red states and blue states, 249 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 3: and we ought to go after it in all those states. 250 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 3: But but there is a reason Minnesota was ground zero 251 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 3: for this because you gotta ask. 252 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 2: Me, because the AG and because of the governor there. 253 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 2: I mean, they're the CEOs the company. And that's the 254 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 2: question I want to ask you. If this was a 255 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 2: private sector of fraud there would already be. 256 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: People in handcuffs. 257 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 2: Yep, there would be people there that would be doing 258 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 2: purp walks. It would be wall to wall coverage. But somehow, 259 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 2: because it's the government, it's like the Governor's not even 260 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 2: a suspect. The ag is not even a suspect. It's like, oh, well, 261 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 2: you know, we want to bring in more Somali's. That's 262 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 2: what the governor said a couple of days ago. We 263 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:51,839 Speaker 2: should bring more of them in. How dare you demonize them? 264 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 2: And if there is no accountability, then did they in 265 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 2: fact get away with it? I would argue the answers 266 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 2: jest because ultimately their goal was to get Somali's to 267 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 2: vote for them. This was the payoff. It's pay to 268 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,439 Speaker 2: play politics in Minnesota. Am I wrong? 269 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 3: You're not wrong? And that needs to be one significant 270 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 3: part of the investigation, both from journalists and from prosecutors. 271 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 3: There needs to be significant investigation into how much of 272 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 3: that money ended up in political coffers of politicians. How 273 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 3: much The reason that the Democrats in Minnesota all look 274 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 3: the other way is they're all getting paid a It's 275 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 3: a huge voting block and I want you to watch 276 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 3: this for those of you who are watching this online, 277 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 3: I want you to see this video of the mayor 278 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 3: of Minneapolis dancing waving a Somali flag. If you haven't, 279 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 3: if you're not watching it online, if you're listening on radio, 280 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 3: we're gonna narrate it. But here, give a look if 281 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 3: you can, and Ben and I will tell you what 282 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 3: you're looking at. 283 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: I mean, this video is amazing. 284 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 2: You got the mayor of Minneapolis up there on stage 285 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 2: center waving a Somali flag and dancing with a shirt 286 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 2: of the Somali flag on his shirt as well. If 287 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 2: you want to know how we got to where we 288 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 2: are now, this is just proof of it. 289 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: Am I wrong? 290 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 3: Okay? And I got to say that this mayor manages 291 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 3: to dance in a way that makes Tim Waltz look manly. 292 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 3: That is the most effeminate, prancing ass kissing like unbelievably, 293 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 3: he's just dancing and waving a Somali flag. Now, let 294 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 3: me ask you, do you think someone who is desperately 295 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 3: trying to get the votes of the one hundred thousand 296 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 3: Somalis that Democrats have imported into Minnesota and desperately trying 297 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 3: to get their cash, do you think he has any 298 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 3: interest in investigating and finding out the billions of dollars 299 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 3: they're stealing from the tax bius. Hell no, well, and 300 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 3: that's how we got here. 301 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 2: Let's go back to the dancing mayor and talk a 302 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 2: little bit more about the propaganda he puts that on 303 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 2: social media, clearly making it well known where his allegiances 304 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 2: and is not to the American taxpayer. 305 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 3: Well, look, if you're asking how could this happen? How 306 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 3: could it be so brazen? How could you have daycare 307 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 3: centers with no kids? How could you have daycare centers 308 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 3: with no playground equipment? How could you have centers for 309 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 3: kids with autism with no kids in them? How could 310 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 3: you have home health care providers that are not actually 311 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 3: providing health care? Like like the raw brazenness of it. 312 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 3: And the answer is the politicians were complicit and and 313 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 3: to understand just how craven and corrupt they are. I 314 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 3: want to go back to the Minneapolis mayor, Jacob Frey 315 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 3: and and or Frey or Fryar or however you say 316 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 3: his name. 317 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 2: If you're talking in Somali, you know, I don't know. 318 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 2: It depends on what you're doing. 319 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 3: Well, I want to play a video that he put out, 320 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 3: and this is him really speaking to America's heartland, speaking 321 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 3: to you, to me, to all of us, because he's 322 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 3: a mayor of a major American city. So give a 323 00:16:58,360 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 3: listen to Mayor Fry. 324 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 6: Mahga Ago wad Jacob Fry, Dokemagalada, Minneapolis, Daman shaab Ka 325 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 6: Somaliid Kayamed Mogadishu, getaway, hageisa Osaso Bedabo, kiss Mayo, Wohana 326 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:19,640 Speaker 6: daba in an Iden Higo Minneapolis. 327 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 3: Wah, Okay, that's enough. 328 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 2: I did hear him say, by the way, you and 329 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 2: I are officially unelectable in Minnesota. 330 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 1: I just want to be very I did hear. 331 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 3: Him say, kiss Mayo. And and he is saying to 332 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 3: his voters, kiss Mayo. He's telling them to kiss Mayo. 333 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 3: He said Mogadishu. And apparently he's running for mayor of Mogadishu. 334 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 3: And maybe he is mayor of Mogadishu. Look, if you're 335 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 3: the biggest funder of al Shabab, yeah you're you're actually 336 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 3: quite a star in Mogadishu, do you think. Look, I 337 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 3: don't know what that guy's saying, and and and that 338 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 3: is by design, and and by the way, you might think, well, okay, 339 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 3: he's just you know, he's just trying to appeal to 340 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 3: a constituency. I want you to listen it to the 341 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 3: Prime Minister of Somalia standing next il Han Omar. Ilhan 342 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 3: Omar is the congresswoman who represents this Somali community. And 343 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 3: I want you to listen to what the Prime Minister 344 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 3: of Somalia says about Ilhan Omar. 345 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 2: I mean, this is I honestly shocking when he's talking 346 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 2: about it's not in the interesting well, it's somebody else. 347 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:39,959 Speaker 3: All right, and and let me let me for our listeners. 348 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:43,239 Speaker 3: You'll be forgiven if you thought that might have been 349 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 3: the mayor of Minneapolis, Jacob Fry, because because they both 350 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 3: speak Somalian and so you know, it is understandable that 351 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 3: the Prime Minister Somalia sounds just like the Minneapolis mayor. 352 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:57,360 Speaker 3: But but here actually is is what the Somalian prime 353 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 3: Minister's name, and it's it's Hassan Ali Kyrie. And he 354 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 3: says the following. For those listening on radio you don't 355 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 3: have the English translations, let me translate what he said. Quote. 356 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 3: The interest of Ilhan are not of the American people. 357 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 3: The interest of Ilhan is that of the Somalian people 358 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 3: and Somalia. That's not me saying that. Are you saying that? 359 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 3: That's the Prime Minister of Somalia in Minneapolis, in America 360 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:34,679 Speaker 3: telling presumably Americans, your member of Congress, her interests are 361 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 3: not America. They are Somalians and Somalia. And you want 362 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,880 Speaker 3: to know why so many Democrats look the other way 363 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 3: as the Somalian fraudsters were robbing the taxpayers blind. It 364 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 3: is because they were in on it, they were profiting 365 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 3: from it, they were benefiting from it. And this embodies 366 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 3: level upon level of corruption. 367 00:19:58,440 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 7: You know. 368 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 2: This also goes back to say you and I talked 369 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:04,360 Speaker 2: about several months ago when we had then the man 370 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 2: in charge of DOGE he was warning us about waste, 371 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 2: fraud and abuse. 372 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 1: That was Elon Musk. 373 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 2: He actually retweeted the last couple of days this segment 374 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 2: that we had from him in the DOJ office and 375 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:18,880 Speaker 2: the EOB next to the White House, and I want 376 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 2: to play that for people just to remind you of 377 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 2: what he was talking about of entitlement payments going to 378 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 2: people just like these Somalians and illegals, and how this 379 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 2: was one of the biggest frauds as he described it. 380 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: Happening in the history of this country. Take a listen 381 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: to again. 382 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 2: This is Elon Musk on this show months ago warning 383 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 2: about this exact type of behavior. 384 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 7: And the single biggest thing that they're worried about is 385 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 7: that DOJ is going to turn off frauderland payments of entitlements. 386 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 7: I mean everything from Social Security, medicare, you know, unemployment, disability, 387 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 7: small administ registration loans, turn them off to illegals. This 388 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 7: is that props of the matter. Yeah, okay, this is 389 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 7: this is the this is the thing that why they 390 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 7: really hit my guts, want me to die. 391 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 3: And do you think that's billions hundreds of billions? 392 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 7: What do you think the scale is of that? I 393 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 7: think across the country it's in the it's wealth of 394 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 7: one hundred billion, maybe two hundred million. So by using 395 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 7: entitlements fraud, the Democrats have been able to attract and 396 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 7: retain vast numbers of illegal immigrants and buy voters, and 397 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 7: buy voters exactly the basically bring in a ten twenty 398 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 7: million people who are beholden to the Democrats for government 399 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 7: handouts and will vote overwhelmingly Democrat, as has been demonstrated 400 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 7: in California. 401 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: This is it's an election strategy. 402 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 3: Yes, it's power. 403 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 7: Yes, and it doesn't take much to the Spring States 404 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 7: blue and when off in a Spring state yet be 405 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 7: won by ten twenty thousand votes. Sure, so the DAMS 406 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 7: can bring in two hundred thousand illegals and over time 407 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 7: get them legal legalized, not counting any cheating that takes place, 408 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 7: because there is some cheating, but even without cheating, if 409 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 7: you bake, if you have, if you bring in illegals 410 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 7: that are ten next the voted differential in the Spring state, 411 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 7: it will no longer be a swing state, right, and 412 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 7: the DAMS will win all the Spring States just a 413 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 7: matter of time, and America will be permanent deep blue 414 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:37,919 Speaker 7: social estate. At the House, the Senate, YEP, the Presidency, 415 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 7: and the Supreme Court will all go hardcore down. They 416 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 7: will then further cement that by bringing in even more 417 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 7: aliens so you can't vote your way out of it. 418 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 7: Their is to make one party social estate, and it 419 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 7: will be much worse than California, because least California is 420 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 7: mitigated by the fact that someone can leave California. 421 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 3: You can go to Texas. 422 00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly, So you're going to make everywhere California. 423 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 5: But worse. 424 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 2: You know, what's interesting is the way that he described 425 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 2: it their center, saying you can't They'll get to a 426 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 2: point where you can't vote your way out of it. 427 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 2: It's almost like Elon was describing Minneapolis, minnep was Saint 428 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 2: Paul and now in essence, the entire state is going 429 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:20,160 Speaker 2: that way after it's total Somali control locally. 430 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 3: Now, look that that is exactly right. I will say, 431 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 3: by the way that the interview we did with Elon 432 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 3: Musk it was an hour long interview we did in 433 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 3: the course of two podcasts. It remains one of my 434 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 3: favorite pods we've ever done. If you didn't listen to 435 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 3: it when it came out, I would encourage you. It 436 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 3: was fascinating. We got to ask Elon all sorts of 437 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:42,640 Speaker 3: questions about how he built tel Tesla, how he built SpaceX, 438 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 3: what are the odds of killer robots killing us? All, 439 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 3: what's gonna happen with AI? I mean, it was it 440 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 3: was fun, it was interesting. Elon is a good friend, 441 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 3: and and that exchange it was precient that he predicted, 442 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 3: and it's interesting he said north of one hundred billion nationwide. 443 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:03,360 Speaker 3: We look at Minneapolis and Minnesota where It's already north 444 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 3: of nine billion in just one state, and I think 445 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 3: that prediction of one hundred billion or more is very accurate. 446 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 3: You know, I'll also say on the point about getting 447 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 3: you know Elon talked to right there, we get about 448 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,439 Speaker 3: getting people locked into welfare and dependency and making him 449 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 3: dependent on the Democrats. You know, there was a tweet 450 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 3: that Bill Ackman, the New York Investor, put out today 451 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,920 Speaker 3: that I thought was quite insightful. He said, quote, even 452 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 3: assuming there was no fraud, none of this makes sense. 453 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 3: How is it that we have been funding billions of 454 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 3: dollars of daycare for Somali immigrants in Minnesota, eighty one 455 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 3: percent of which, according to Gemini, are on welfare. Now 456 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 3: get this. Listen to that fact again, eighty one percent 457 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 3: of Somali immigrants are on welfare. Acman continues, in other words, 458 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 3: if mom and dad don't work, why the need for childcare? 459 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,679 Speaker 3: Perhaps you could say the welfare statistics include some subsidies 460 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 3: for working parents, but still in this case, the childcare 461 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 3: does not appear to be needed, as the daycare centers 462 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 3: are empty. Furthermore, why is federal funded childcare provided to 463 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 3: recent immigrants on welfare? Versus longstanding American working families who 464 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 3: are not on welfare. How does this make sense? And 465 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 3: the answer is it doesn't. It doesn't unless the goal 466 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 3: is to buy votes. And if the goal is to 467 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 3: buy vote sense, it makes perfect sense and everyone responsible 468 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 3: needs to go to jail. 469 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:37,360 Speaker 2: Saat we're talking about accountability and CEOs. They're held accountable 470 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 2: when they commit major frauds. Bernie Madeoff is one I 471 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 2: mentioned a moment ago as well. Is there a real 472 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 2: chance that we will see government elected officials because of 473 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 2: this fraud actually be arrested in howd accountable for the 474 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 2: fact that they're the CEO of the state and they 475 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 2: are the ones that allowed this to happen. 476 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 1: There were a lot of warning signs. 477 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,119 Speaker 2: There were whistle blowers that have come forward saying that 478 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 2: they had taken to the governor and they were actually 479 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 2: punished for being a whistleblower in Minnesota. 480 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,400 Speaker 1: That's part of this story that can't be overlooked. 481 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 3: Look, I hope so, and I believe there will be accountability. 482 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 3: We've already seen people being prosecuted, the fraudsters themselves. We've 483 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,159 Speaker 3: seen DJ and the FBI promising to go higher up 484 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 3: the chain, and I hope and expect that to happen. 485 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 7: Now. 486 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 3: You know, I will say on Twitter, lots of folks 487 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 3: are commenting with our last couple of pods and they're 488 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 3: yelling at me, going, will Ted do something about it? 489 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 3: And then let's get back to the basic constitution and 490 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:38,639 Speaker 3: the separation of powers. The only federal entity that can 491 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 3: prosecute is the executive branch, that is the Department of Justice, 492 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 3: that is the FBI. They can bring criminal charges. I 493 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 3: serve in the legislature. The legislature cannot prosecute anyone. What 494 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,639 Speaker 3: we can do is shine a light. Well we can do. 495 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 3: This podcast reaches millions of people by shining a light 496 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 3: and calling for accountability. That builds the momentum for then 497 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,159 Speaker 3: the executive has to bring the indictments and has to prosecute. 498 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,439 Speaker 3: And that we're going to do, and I fully expect 499 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 3: we will also have congressional hearings again to shine a light. Now, 500 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 3: a congressional hearing cannot actually indict anyone and put one 501 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 3: in jail, but it can draw real attention and it 502 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:20,439 Speaker 3: could uncover evidence that helps helps the executive then prosecute. 503 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 3: They are also political consequences, and I want to play 504 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 3: actually an ad that I saw online. I don't know 505 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 3: who put this together, but it's a satirical ad about 506 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 3: Tim Waltz that gives some of the sense of political 507 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 3: consequences that will happen. This just came out today. Give 508 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 3: a listen. 509 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:42,400 Speaker 5: Tim Walls doesn't seek out Fraud. Fraud seeks out Tim Walls. 510 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,880 Speaker 5: When scammers apply for jobs, they list him as a reference. 511 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 5: Under his watch, Fraud is Minnesota's fastest growing small business. 512 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 5: His biggest export taxpayer money delivered to foreign terrorists. If 513 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 5: Fraud had a frequent flyer program, he would always fly 514 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 5: first class. He is Tim Walls, the most fraudulent man 515 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 5: in America. Tim Walls doesn't see I. 516 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 2: Love the and I remember the most interesting man in 517 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 2: the world. That's that thing to that with those techis yeah, 518 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 2: which is such a great like great ad series they 519 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 2: did there for years. 520 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 3: And by the way, man, by the way, by the way, man, 521 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 3: I have to say, I'm also a fan of bearded 522 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 3: latinos with with just you know, with something to say 523 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 3: in the world. 524 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 2: There's something I understand your beard like never before you 525 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 2: were trying to be the most interesting man in the 526 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 2: world of politics. 527 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 1: Okay, now, it's full circle. 528 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 3: It's a low bar. I mean the low bar. 529 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 1: I get it. That's so good. That's I'm never okay. 530 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 2: The connection is solidified now that that ad is hysterical, 531 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 2: it's also incredibly accurate. 532 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 3: Look this is and it's just the beginning. This is 533 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 3: only gonna get worse. As I said, this has happened 534 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 3: in other states. Minnesota is a perfect storm because you've 535 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 3: got the massive Somali community there, but it is happening 536 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 3: in other states. We are going to see accountability and listen, 537 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 3: I'm really glad the Trump administration, DOJ and the FBI 538 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 3: is going after that this. But also today HHS, the 539 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 3: Trump administration came out with with this announcement. Give a listen. 540 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 8: I'm here with Assistant Secretary Alex Adams. Alex Overseas, the 541 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 8: Administration for Children and Families and TRUMPID journalists have made shocky, 542 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 8: incredible allegations of extensive fraud in Minnesota's childcare programs. We 543 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 8: believe the state of Minnesota has allowed scammers and fake 544 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,479 Speaker 8: daycares to siphon millions of taxpayer dollars over the past decade. 545 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 9: My office ACF provides Minnesota one hundred and eighty five 546 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 9: million dollars in childcare funds each year. That money should 547 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 9: be helping nineteen thousand American children, including toddlers and infants. 548 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 9: Any dollar stolen by fraudsters is stolen from those children. 549 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 9: Yesterday I spoke directly with the director of the Minnesota 550 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 9: Childcare Services Office. She could not tell me with confidence 551 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 9: whether those allegations of fraud are isolated or whether there's 552 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 9: fraud stretching statewide. 553 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 8: Today, we've taken three direct actions against the blatant fraud 554 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 8: that seems to be rampant in Minnesota. First, I have 555 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 8: activated our defend the Spend system for all ACF childcare 556 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 8: payments across America. Starting today, we require a justification, receipt 557 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 8: or photo evidence before we make a payment. Second, I've 558 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 8: just signed and sent a demand letter to Governor Walls. 559 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 8: I required a full three hundred and sixty review of 560 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 8: these centers. This includes attendance records, licenses, complaints, investigations, and inspections. 561 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 9: And Third, we've launched a dedicated fraud reporting hotline and 562 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 9: email address at childcare dot gov. Whether you're a parent, 563 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 9: a provider, a member of the public, we want to 564 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 9: hear from you. Let me be crystal clear. ACF expects 565 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 9: every state to uphold the highest standards of oversight, monitoring, 566 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 9: and accountability for federal dollars. Minnesota is no exception. 567 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 8: We're committed to holding bad actors accountable, regardless the rank 568 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 8: of office. Anyone is involved and perpetrating this fraud against 569 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 8: the American people should expect to be prosecuted to the 570 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 8: fullest extent of the law. 571 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 1: So this is a step in the right direction. 572 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 2: And if you look at the president's response, in the 573 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 2: administration's response, I do think the best part is he's 574 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 2: using all of government. We're hearing that the IRS is 575 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 2: getting involved at the Department in Security, the FBI, They're 576 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 2: working with basically every part of our government to fight 577 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 2: this fraud. You see this from AJHS and there are 578 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 2: some that will say, well, this is unfair because they're 579 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 2: stopping the funding and there has to be somebody doing 580 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 2: good work in Minnesota. If you're mad, I would say 581 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 2: that you should be mad at the Democrats for allowing 582 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 2: it to get to the point where they had to 583 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 2: stop the funding going to the state of Minnesota. If 584 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 2: you're angry, you should be angry at Waltz and you 585 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 2: should be angry at every Democrat that allowed this to 586 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 2: continue when they're there's massive amounts of warning signs, not 587 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 2: for weeks, not for months, but for literally years and 588 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 2: years and years. 589 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 3: Well, Ben Jim O'Neil, who just made that announcement, he 590 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 3: is the deputy secretary of HHS. He's Bobby Kennedy's deputy. 591 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 3: Jim has been a good friend of mine for twenty 592 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 3: five years. Actually Jim was a groomsman at Heidi's in 593 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 3: my wedding, so actually longer married twenty five years ago, 594 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 3: so Jim was a groomsman at our wedding and he's 595 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,719 Speaker 3: a great friend. He's doing a terrific job as deputy 596 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 3: secretary at HHS. But that's the kind of leadership we 597 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 3: see now. It's now, it's striking when when when HHS 598 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 3: put this out immediately, Tim Waltz responded and and here's 599 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 3: what what Tim Waltz said in response. This is Trump's 600 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 3: long game. We've spent years cracking down on fraudsters. It's 601 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 3: a serious issue, but this has been his plan all along. 602 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 3: He's politicizing the issue to defund programs that help Minnesotans. 603 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 3: And this is this is solemnly like jiu jitsu of 604 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 3: attacking the Trump administration for holding him accountable. Look, Governor Waltz, 605 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 3: when you let Somali and fraudsters steal nine billion dollars 606 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 3: from taxpayers, you know who doesn't get that? Real Minnesotans 607 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 3: who are not fraudsters, real kids. And that's what the 608 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 3: Trump AHHS emphasized right now is this money is made 609 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 3: to go to Americans in need and not to thieves 610 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 3: who are supporting Democrats. And we're gonna see a whole 611 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 3: lot more accountability coming. 612 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:35,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna keep you updated on it. We can 613 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 2: promise you that here, So don't miss an episode. Download 614 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 2: VERTICU with Ted Cruz wherever you get your podcasts as 615 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 2: we do the show Monday, Wednesday and Friday. 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