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Speaker 1: And Dan and Tye welcome back to the solid verb

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Speaker 1: of boys and girls. My name is Ty Hildenbrand, joining

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Speaker 1: me as always over there in beautiful New York City,

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Speaker 1: my man Dan Rubinstein, Sir, how are.

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Speaker 2: You you know? Ty? You sound especially clear, you sound

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Speaker 2: especially punchy, bouncy, and you know what I think that is.

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Speaker 2: I think it's the Sweeney effect. Yeah, I think it's

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Speaker 2: the Sweeney effect. That is. First of all, that is

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Speaker 2: a reference that almost nobody is going to understand. We're

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Speaker 2: going to talk about this, but we are going to

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Speaker 2: attribute so much to the Sweeney effect in twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 2: I'm good, Ty, I can't complain. I am busy, but

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm very excited about tonight's show. Let's make some

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Speaker 2: pretend money for ourselves and for everybody listening.

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Speaker 1: Let's make some cash. That's what we're gonna do here

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Speaker 1: on the podcast. This evening A fun show planned. Hello,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. I'm Ty he's Dan. You can

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Speaker 1: We have not sent one of these out in months,

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Speaker 2: We're getting closer on shirt number two, by the way,

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Speaker 2: so we're hoping for late spring early summer, rolling everything

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Speaker 2: So tonight's show, first of all, is there any news

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Speaker 1: I would love to talk about the sweety Effect. Dan.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so I sent you this this morning, Okay, a

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Speaker 2: PowerPoint leaks from I guess Clemson. This is I'm sure

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Speaker 2: with intention. Yeah, perfect story for our podcast. Okay, so

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Speaker 2: let's back up even more. Davos Sweeney has earned himself

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Speaker 2: a ten year, ninety three million dollars. That's the reported

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Speaker 2: hard to argue against the results and to the place

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Speaker 2: to which Clemson has climbed in the college football universe.

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Speaker 2: The defending national champions, the recruiting like crazy, they're raising

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Speaker 2: So things are are very I believe this is the word.

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Speaker 2: They're bullish right now for Clemson and Clemson football. Yes,

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Speaker 2: Dabosweeney and he's making about nine million when you when

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Speaker 2: And people were sort of reacting with, Wow, that's no

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Speaker 2: I saw this on Football Scoop. I don't know where

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Speaker 1: grow in Turn because there's some significance there that's true.

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Speaker 2: Now I'm looking this up. This is going to bother me.

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Speaker 1: post this screencap on our worldwide Prestige Worlds Worldwide. That's it.

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Speaker 1: I am going to post this screencap of all possible

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Speaker 1: Sneak peek at tonight's show. Here you go.

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Speaker 1: All right, Tonight's show, Dan and I have both very

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Speaker 1: fortuitously inherited stumbled upon found in a basket outside our

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Speaker 1: Good one million solid verbal bufus, and we have all

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Speaker 1: High you dog, I have it on mine too.

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Speaker 2: Forty one. I believe forty one total touchdowns last year.

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Speaker 1: I like this a lot.

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Speaker 2: So what conferences the last have the last two Heisman

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Speaker 2: That's true, This is absolutely true. So sam Ellinger I

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Speaker 1: So we're going to write these down to keep track

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Speaker 1: There is clearly some concern the over under is very low,

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Speaker 1: but six wins Dan, six wins feels more than attainable

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Speaker 1: I am going to go large with two hundred K

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Speaker 2: Whoa Okay, Oregon State, McNeice and Tulsa and the non

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 2: That seems very attainable, especially when you have you have

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Speaker 2: Peter Hoffman's Sean Gleeson's Oklahoma State offense. That's right. That's

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Speaker 2: got He's approaching McKissick. He is approaching mckissions in terms

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Speaker 1: We need a sound though we can't use the mckissicks.

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Speaker 2: Sound no, no, no, We'll come up with something new which

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Speaker 1: Have an odea. We'll talk after the show.

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Speaker 2: All right, I am with my first win total. I'm

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Speaker 2: going Nebraska with So you're going over Oklahoma State. I'm

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Speaker 2: I'm going under eight wins, staying on brand. So that's

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Speaker 2: twenty five k on this whoa, So not huge money,

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Speaker 2: but since you went over there to the win totals,

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Speaker 2: It's a lot. When I went through this schedule and

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Speaker 2: I was seeing six or seven, which is still really

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Speaker 2: nice improvement. Great, But I'm going to take the under

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Speaker 2: of eight for Nebraska.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 1: I think it's good value, decent value. Okay, moving on,

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Speaker 1: let's do another over under. Dan. I'm going to play

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Speaker 1: my thought from earlier. Yeah, I'm looking at Clemson's schedule

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Speaker 1: they're overunder is eleven, which means that in order for

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Speaker 2: How about that?

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Speaker 1: Okay, eleven wins is the overunder. And here is what

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Speaker 2: But I believe Georgia Tech that game kicks off the

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Speaker 2: So what you're basically banking on here if you feel

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Speaker 1: Down twenty to seventeen, no they're not.

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Speaker 2: The margin is seventeen or twenty points because I don't

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Speaker 2: You really have to squint, you gotta swin to find.

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Speaker 1: September's tough, the carrier domes weird. Maybe Louisville week after

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Speaker 2: I don't see it. So it feels pushy to me.

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Speaker 2: So if you'll stay away ish to me. But I

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Speaker 1: I should also add that the line here, the money

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Speaker 1: one more spin on the over underwheel. If I could,

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Speaker 1: I just invented an over underwheel there, and I hope

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Speaker 1: that's okay.

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Speaker 2: I like it.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about let's talk about Florida State. Also in

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Speaker 1: the ACC Florida State's over I'm ready is seven and

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Speaker 1: a half now. Look listen, I know it didn't go

443
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Speaker 1: well for Florida State a year ago, but over seven

444
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Speaker 1: and a half means that they need to get to

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Speaker 1: eight wins. They can lose four games on their schedule,

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Speaker 1: and here's what their schedule looks like. First and foremost,

447
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Speaker 1: a neutral syche game, but more of a home game

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Speaker 1: really when Boise State comes into town Week one in Jacksonville,

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Speaker 1: sort of a home game.

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Speaker 2: A home game it is.

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Speaker 1: We've got the ULM Warhawks at Virginia, at Virginia Louisville,

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Speaker 1: NC State, at Clemson, at Wake QS Miami, Boston College,

453
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Speaker 1: Alabama State, and at Florida. A decidedly more difficult schedule

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Speaker 1: than what we just saw from Clemson. Not trying to

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Speaker 1: not Clemson, but I think that's a much more difficult schedule.

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Speaker 1: Do you think Florida State loses more than four of

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Speaker 1: those games? It seems like it's a good number, but

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Speaker 1: more than four seems like a stretch, especially after things

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Speaker 1: win a South as they did a year ago. For

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Speaker 1: Willie Taggert, I think he gets them back on the

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Speaker 1: straight and narrow and at eighty four should be more

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Speaker 1: than attainable.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you have Kendall Briles. How can you not nice,

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Speaker 2: straight and narrow. So Boise, Clemson, Miami Florida, Syracuse are

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Speaker 2: you're if they're going seven and five and what that

466
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Speaker 2: would go under?

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Speaker 1: That would go under?

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Speaker 2: Yes, those seem like the most obvious with what Syracuse

469
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Speaker 2: did to them last year. Granted it was in the

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Speaker 2: Carrier Dome. Miami Florida and Clemson have comparable, if not superior, talent,

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Speaker 2: and Boise State has even though they definitely struggled last

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Speaker 2: year against Oklahoma State, they have acquitted themselves relatively well

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Speaker 2: against teams that are clearly more talented than them, which

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Speaker 2: Florida State is, and especially getting them. I think that's

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Speaker 2: still in August, so you can pencil in six and

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Speaker 2: six pretty not confidently, but it makes sense.

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Speaker 1: Givee eight and four. Wow, Okay, right now it's at

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Speaker 1: seven and a half. I'm going to take the over

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Speaker 1: at minus one ten.

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Speaker 2: So which of those? So you you think Boise's a win,

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Speaker 2: then I assume, well, I.

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Speaker 1: Don't know which one's will win. Okay, I'm gonna take you.

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Speaker 2: Have them beating Boise or Syracuse.

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Speaker 1: You have to essentially, yes, Yeah, I think I think

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Speaker 1: they can beat Boise in Week one. Boise's got some

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Speaker 1: of their own turnover that they need to deal with. Uh,

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Speaker 1: But you know, I mean there, Look, where Florida State's

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Speaker 1: coming from is obviously very different from where Clemson's coming from.

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Speaker 1: There's a game on the road Week three at Virginia.

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Speaker 1: Who knows what happens in that game, all right, Virginia

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Speaker 1: had some stuff to.

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Speaker 2: Do the history of there losing to Virginia and Charlottesville,

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Speaker 2: all right.

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Speaker 1: So there are more games on this schedule that frighten

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Speaker 1: me clearly than on the Clemson side. But I still

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Speaker 1: feel like Florida State's got so much talent. Willie Taggart

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Speaker 1: still a good coach. Last year didn't go well. He

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Speaker 1: spent a considerable amount of energy in the offseason trying

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Speaker 1: to retool things. Added a little bit of depth at

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Speaker 1: quarterback with Hornybrook. Please don't make me go into that

501
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Speaker 1: discussion again, Alex Horneybrook.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, Blackman or Hornybrook, yep. Or they get a

503
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Speaker 2: Louisville waiver maybe from there the transfer from Louisville, who knows.

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Speaker 1: Look, last year, I said Florida State was going to

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Speaker 1: go six and six, and I hedged because I didn't

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Speaker 1: feel good about it, but it ended up being mostly right.

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Speaker 1: This year. I look at the team. I like the talent.

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Speaker 1: The schedule doesn't set up like the easiest schedule in

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Speaker 1: the world, but I do believe in Willie Taggart and

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Speaker 1: the talent they've got in Tallahassee. So I'm going over.

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Speaker 1: I'm going over. I'm gonna I believe less one hundred k.

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Speaker 1: That takes me up to four hundred and fifty K

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Speaker 1: in total bets here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my Sam sam Ellinger bet was one hundred. My

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Speaker 2: Nebraska under was one twenty five. I have usc over

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Speaker 2: seven and a half wins really at plus money plus

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Speaker 2: one thirty, so about one hundred get one hundred and

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Speaker 2: thirty back. I only have one hundred K there. But

519
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Speaker 2: in this situation, I'm betting on talent. Even though I'm

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Speaker 2: never a believer in the Hail Mary coordinator higher to fix.

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Speaker 2: You know, I am still scarred from the Brady Oak era,

522
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Speaker 2: and I think Graham Harold's a lot more talented with

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Speaker 2: offense than Brady Hope loves with defense. But I am

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Speaker 2: a believer in JD. Daniels JT. Daniels taking a step forward,

525
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Speaker 2: even though the team necessarily didn't necessarily want him starting

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Speaker 2: last year. I think the players seem to want Sears

527
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Speaker 2: if I remember correctly, rather than J. T. Daniels stepping

528
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Speaker 2: in based on camp, but usc it's one of tricky

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Speaker 2: September Fresno State, Stanford BYU Utah. But I still really

530
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Speaker 2: like the talent, especially upfront on defense with how they've

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Speaker 2: recruited down recruiting class this year, for sure, but upfront

532
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Speaker 2: they still clancy Pendergast. I still like them at receiver,

533
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Speaker 2: even though they're thinner there. I think there's still enough

534
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Speaker 2: talent in a downpack twelve. They have the Utah than

535
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Speaker 2: at Washington and then a bye week and then at

536
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Speaker 2: Notre Dame. Stretch for sure, tricky, but if you're betting

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Speaker 2: on up side and you're getting plus money the back

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Speaker 2: half of their schedule, they have essentially one and a

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Speaker 2: half pretty good teams in Oregon and ASU. I don't

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Speaker 2: consider Cal to be a full team. So them going

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Speaker 2: eight and four and losing to say, Fresno, Stanford, Utah,

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Speaker 2: Notre Dame, I think it's possible for sure. Okay, I

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Speaker 2: think they can beat Oregon, they can beat Cal UCLA

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Speaker 2: Arizona State, Colorado, Arizona. They can beat Washington. We don't

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Speaker 2: know what's going with Washington's quarterback situation. So I am

546
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Speaker 2: and UA loses a ton on defense. I think just

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Speaker 2: in terms of value, it's pretty decent.

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Speaker 1: All Right, So you're saying eight and four at minimum correct?

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Speaker 1: Here is the operative question? Then, yeah, eight and four.

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Speaker 1: Is Clay Hilton back in twenty twenty?

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Speaker 2: No he's not. Yeah, I agree, he makes less money

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Speaker 2: or he actually he probably is in a great situation

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Speaker 2: with his buyout. But I definitely make pretend mine to hear.

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Speaker 1: All right, before we go any further, Dan, Yes, let's talk.

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Speaker 2: Oh I'm ready.

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Speaker 2: It's awful.

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Speaker 1: The message to you is very simple, stop because trains can't.

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Speaker 2: I gotta tell you I love stopping in plenty of

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Speaker 2: or something, you get to say, I wonder what they're hauling.

653
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 2: I wonder what's going Probably some lumber lumber. Yeah, I

654
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 2: don't know. That's what I just assume, but yeah, I

655
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 2: like to I like a good long view of a train.

656
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,439
Speaker 1: All right, Dan, I'm gonna move on. Okay, I don't

657
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 1: mean to cut you off.

658
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 2: You ever take any long train rides there? Ty, No,

659
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 2: I haven't, really, no, never have. I think I've mentioned

660
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 2: this before, but nine to eleven happened right before I

661
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 2: was supposed to fly to Eugene, Oregon to go to college.

662
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 2: All flights grounded. Had to take a train to college

663
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:57,280
Speaker 2: long ride in southern California.

664
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 1: As a long ride, it could have been a.

665
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 2: Lot more uncomfortable. I had a good time on that train.

666
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:06,280
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on. I'm gonna give my fourth

667
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:15,879
Speaker 1: bet for oh, y'all h my ears, Dan, I don't

668
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: want to jinx your team at all, but let's go

669
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:23,800
Speaker 1: Oregon plus one at usc OH November the second. I

670
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 1: don't hate that this seems like an egregiously low line.

671
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's going to get to ten, but

672
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: at one point it's basically a pick them. At this

673
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: point in the season, and especially in light of so

674
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,399
Speaker 1: many of the questions we have about USC, they could

675
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 1: go eight for they could hit your over under and

676
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 1: still very well lose this game at home to Oregon. Oregon,

677
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 1: by the way, is one of those teams in the

678
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: PAC twelve North that stands a pretty good chance at

679
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 1: making a run at least at the North, sure certainly

680
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 1: at the PAC twelve. And who knows, they were a

681
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: trendy pick a couple months ago as a dark horse

682
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 1: playoff team. We could debate the merits of that, but

683
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: they've got a pretty good team coming back and only

684
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: a one point favorite against the USC team. By that point,

685
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 1: it'll be late in the year. Hopefully Clay Hilt will

686
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: have some of their issues sorted out. But there just

687
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: isn't a whole lot to give you the warm fuzzies

688
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: that they're gonna be able to beat a team like Oregon.

689
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,399
Speaker 1: So I feel pretty good about Oregon. Plus one, it's

690
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: on November the second. I'm going to go one hundred

691
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:29,879
Speaker 1: and fifty k on that one.

692
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,439
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, Oregon's in a good position to travel well,

693
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 2: which they didn't last year. And then Justin Herbert's getting

694
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 2: a lot of the attention and somewhat rightfully so. But

695
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 2: they're deep at running back. The offensive line is all

696
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 2: super I mean, Pinay Sewell is a true sophomore, but

697
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,280
Speaker 2: I think the rest of them are fifth year seniors

698
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 2: and they're all back from last season, so they have

699
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 2: a good chance with a new defensive coordinator to be

700
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 2: unpredictable and really good on defense and run the ball

701
00:36:56,120 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 2: really well which typically travels, you know. Respect. So I

702
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 2: don't hate that pick at all, especially since USC by

703
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,760
Speaker 2: what do you say was November second. Yeah, if USC

704
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 2: is just an abject disaster, you're not gonna have much

705
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 2: of a home field by November twod and Oregon could

706
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 2: comfortably win that game. It's not unreasonable.

707
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 1: You could have interim coach Graham Harrell by that point. Absolutely,

708
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 1: you could never know, all right, So I'm in right now,

709
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 1: I've got what is this six hundred k in imaginary bets.

710
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: My hunch is that you've got some big instill on

711
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: the board.

712
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 2: I do. My next pick is, I'm getting nine points

713
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 2: Auburn at home against Georgia. Nine points. I know Auburn

714
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 2: is retooling the linebacking corps, but up front they've got

715
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 2: at least a couple first, second, third round lineman and

716
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 2: you're you're essentially gambling on either was Joey Gatewood or

717
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 2: bow Nicks being pretty good. But you also have the

718
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 2: reassurance that it appears that Gus Malson is going to

719
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 2: be in charge of the off once again, like he

720
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 2: was in the bowl game against Purdue and like he

721
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 2: was when Auburn had an offense. And so there is

722
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 2: something pretty exciting about plus money. Even though I really

723
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 2: love Georgia this year, it's a lot of points for

724
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 2: what looks to be another good defense at home in

725
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 2: a tough place to play, in a rivalry game, pushing

726
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 2: double ditch. I know the comfortable I know the Bulldogs

727
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 2: comfortably won last year, but that was in Athens, and

728
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 2: that's too many points for me. So I'm I'm gonna

729
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 2: comfortably take those nine. And I have that as a

730
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 2: buck twenty five as well.

731
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: Wow, okay, so you're up to five point fifty later

732
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 1: on in the season, Yes, in imaginary cullivery.

733
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,919
Speaker 2: And I think that's I believe that's after the two

734
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:43,919
Speaker 2: games leading up to it. If you're a body blow

735
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 2: believer triple B, the real triple B, that's after Florida

736
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 2: and after Miszoo, who gave Georgia some trouble last year.

737
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 2: So it's it's a road. It's a road to get

738
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:55,399
Speaker 2: to a rivalry game. That's tough.

739
00:38:56,440 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 1: Let's go to the what is it second week of

740
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,800
Speaker 1: the year. Okay, a lot of interesting non conference games

741
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,720
Speaker 1: in the early part of September, as as always. Really

742
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 1: and I looked at this game, I did a double take.

743
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 1: I went, I looked at depth charts, I looked at

744
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 1: some notes that I've taken here in the infancy of

745
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 1: the preseason. I really like Stanford minus two and a

746
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:29,320
Speaker 1: half at UCF. It's an interesting matchup. Yeah, I'm sure

747
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: that it's gonna get a ton of attention because it's

748
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 1: a very interesting non conference game. Let's be honest, Stanford

749
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 1: is not without some of their own questions. For a

750
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: long time, one of the biggest strengths for Stanford has

751
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 1: been the offensive line in the running game. Yeah, Bryce

752
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 1: Love is obviously gone. He's dealing with his own injury

753
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: issues or trying to come back from injury as he

754
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: now moves on into the NFL. And I believe Stanford

755
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 1: loses something like four or five offensive linemen.

756
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 2: So, yeah, Walker Little's back. He's probably gonna be a

757
00:39:58,360 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 2: top fifteen pick next year.

758
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 1: Oh, they're sort of retooling. They also lose our boy

759
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 1: jj arthega white Side.

760
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 2: Did you get that one right?

761
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 1: So there are a lot of questions on the Stanford side,

762
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,839
Speaker 1: and UCF will of course be without Mackenzie Milton, who's

763
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 1: still recovering from his own terrible injury that we saw

764
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 1: towards the end of last season.

765
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 2: He's not playing in this game.

766
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 1: He's not playing in It sucks, but yeah, it does suck.

767
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:25,280
Speaker 1: Dariel mack will be the quarterback unless he is usurped

768
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 1: by one Brandon Winbush or someone else on the roster.

769
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 1: But I like Stanford's chances here. I think this is

770
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 1: a big game for UCF. It's at is it at home?

771
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 1: Where's this game?

772
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 2: It's in Orlando.

773
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 1: This game is in Orlando.

774
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 2: M hm.

775
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 1: A lot working on the UCF side. But Stanford has

776
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 1: been in these games before. I think they can grind

777
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:50,959
Speaker 1: it out. I think they can win by a field goal.

778
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 1: I think they win by more than a field goal.

779
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 1: I really like kJ Costello. I think they win this

780
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 1: one going away by seven to ten points over UCF.

781
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 1: So I'm going to a let's go one hundred k

782
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 1: on this one.

783
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, no Whiteside, No, Parkinson that you know they're down

784
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 2: there too. They're two big tight ends. Ah, Stanford's a

785
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 2: tricky team this year because I love kJ Costello Whiteside

786
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 2: and that is his name to me. Yeah, and I

787
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,479
Speaker 2: still like UCF. I still like Josh Hypel, I still

788
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 2: like their ability. Dariel Mack did look, you know, outside

789
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 2: of some very certain quarters against LSU, but near the

790
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 2: end of the season when he was thrown into duty,

791
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 2: he had some huge, huge moments. That's tough for me.

792
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 2: Stanford has been a slow starter. If I could bet

793
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 2: against them, is there a line for the Northwestern game? Didn't?

794
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 2: I know they're at home, so it's not body clock, man.

795
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 2: I would love to bet Northwestern in that. So the

796
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 2: case against Stanford against UCF, it's also a second straight

797
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 2: road game after the USC game, so they could go

798
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,280
Speaker 2: into LA and beat USC and then you're just prime letdown,

799
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 2: potential confident going into Orlando and they have Oregon the

800
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 2: following week, I believe. So it's this weird. I wouldn't

801
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 2: call it a full let down look ahead Sandwich, but

802
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 2: maybe a let down look ahead slow Okay, yeah, because

803
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 2: you're going to take UCF on the road. Seriously, of course,

804
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 2: So I don't love that as much as you do,

805
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 2: is what I'm saying. I'll have to get closer before

806
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 2: I fully decide. But that doesn't jump out to me

807
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 2: in the way it does Free What.

808
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 1: Jumps out to me about that game, Then we'll move on.

809
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 1: Even though I have real serious questions about Stanford in

810
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:27,280
Speaker 1: the trenches, particularly on offense, I still feel like whatever

811
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 1: they bring in, whoever their new starters are on the

812
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: offensive line, they're going to be able to push against UCF.

813
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 1: There's been the one knock against UCF. They've gotten better defensively,

814
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 1: that's where the real gap still exists. They've been able

815
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 1: to outscore teams, but defensively, if you got a ball

816
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:47,839
Speaker 1: control team potentially like Stanford who can't control the ball

817
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 1: can play their game. I think that works their advantage

818
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: in a big way here. So one K Stanford minus

819
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 1: two and a half second week of the year road

820
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: tilt against UCF.

821
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 2: Okay, I've got another interesting I'm not going with the

822
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 2: road team here, but I've got another interesting line. What

823
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 2: do I have this as? I have this as Oh,

824
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 2: there's some big money here. You want me to get

825
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:12,800
Speaker 2: into this two hundred K pick? Or you want me

826
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 2: to get into one hundred and fifty K win total

827
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 2: two hundred K. I have Penn State plus four and

828
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:22,439
Speaker 2: a half at home against Michigan, and I love home

829
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 2: dogs with promising talented defenses. Tyler, you know this about me.

830
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 1: I do. So.

831
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 2: This will be the second straight Michigan road game during

832
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 2: this part of the schedule, and it's a week before

833
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 2: Notre Dame. Not to say this is a letdown look

834
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,240
Speaker 2: ahead sandwich for Michigan, but it is a week before

835
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,919
Speaker 2: Notre Dame. And even though Penn State is going through

836
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 2: a ton of new faces, new ideas whatever on offense,

837
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 2: with new quarterback, new starting running back, you know, trying

838
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 2: to get the receiving situation in order around kJ Hammler,

839
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 2: I still I'm just going to go with the system

840
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 2: that works for me, and that is taking that good

841
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 2: talented defense. Penn State by the end of the year

842
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 2: looked like they had a what top ten, top twelve

843
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 2: defense nationally? That's right, Yeah, it's good enough for me,

844
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 2: especially when Michigan loses a ton of pieces on their

845
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 2: own defense. So I'm I'm gonna roll with that, especially

846
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 2: with the confidence that some of the guys who played

847
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 2: in this game the last time it was in Happy Valley.

848
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 2: Will be playing with because they murdered Michigan two years ago.

849
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:21,839
Speaker 2: Don't look up what happened last year?

850
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:23,399
Speaker 1: Interesting? Okay, Dan?

851
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, how do you feel about that? As somebody closer

852
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 2: and like closer attention to Penn State than I do.

853
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm pretty high on Michigan this year. Now. I

854
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: did look at that game. I had a hard time

855
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 1: pulling the trigger. It was intriguing to me because obviously

856
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:38,720
Speaker 1: we've got to think for home dogs in this program.

857
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:39,919
Speaker 2: Lous money love a home dog.

858
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 1: I thought about it. I love their defense. I've got

859
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 1: some other games here featuring Michigan that I am I

860
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 1: would say more strongly considering you look.

861
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:51,479
Speaker 2: At a week three. I looked at that one as well.

862
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 1: No, oh, okay, I've got one later in the year

863
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 1: that I'm looking at right now. I'm not sure if

864
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 1: I'm going to do it or not. I am going

865
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 1: to stay within the state of Michigan. Though. Let's go

866
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 1: back to the well and back to September the fourteenth.

867
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 2: We better do better do sort of.

868
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:21,760
Speaker 1: Arizona State plus six. They're getting plus odds at plus

869
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 1: one oh five, which means again, you put down ten bucks,

870
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 1: if you win and you get ten to fifty back,

871
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 1: you'd value ASU plus six. Second week of the year

872
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 1: at Michigan State. Listen, le, Michigan State could well win

873
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: this game. There's no at home Sidney Slansing tough place

874
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 1: to win. It's at home weird road tilt for ASU.

875
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 1: ASU did not let me down. They were not the

876
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: laughing stock last year that I expected them to be

877
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: with the new KERM Edwards model of coaching in college football.

878
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 1: Actually okay, by and large, right, oh totally.

879
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 2: I mean they were inconsistent and as soon as they

880
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:10,280
Speaker 2: looked good, they kind of looked terrible. But that that'll happen.

881
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 1: They started out really strongly and then fizzled a little bit.

882
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 1: But by and large, is not a bad debut for

883
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 1: one Herm Edwards Michigan State. I don't know what happened

884
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:21,720
Speaker 1: last year in Michigan State.

885
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 2: I do couldn't move the ball in the correct direction.

886
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened in Michigan State last year. Yeah,

887
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 1: early season tilt strikes me as an ugly game. Six

888
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 1: points is a lot in a game like that where

889
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 1: neither team has fully figured themselves out. I'm gonna go

890
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 1: ASU one hundred K plus the points.

891
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:47,240
Speaker 2: So Arizona State. They finished the season really well, actually,

892
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,439
Speaker 2: so it was really the middle point, the early middle

893
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:53,280
Speaker 2: point of the season where they weren't but Herm Edwards

894
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 2: and his staff inherited what felt like a seventh year

895
00:46:56,120 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 2: starting quarterback in Manny Wilkins, the clear best receiver who

896
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 2: played the entire con the entire year, leaviscu Chnot was

897
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 2: the best, but in terms of production wise, Nikhil Harry

898
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 2: was that guy. He's no longer there. So offensively, they're

899
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 2: gonna look different, and they might be starting a true freshman,

900
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 2: a talented true freshman, but a true freshman, nonetheless a

901
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 2: quarterback to go against that defense as what's the spread

902
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 2: against six and a half seven points, six points? Yeah,

903
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 2: it's hard to see Michigan State separating themselves with such

904
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 2: a huge, huge margin for them. But gosh, I'm not

905
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 2: super crazy about as U yet. I'll need some time

906
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 2: to talk.

907
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:38,320
Speaker 1: Look at this one though, he definitely looked at this one.

908
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 1: I know you.

909
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, when you have something as inept as Michigan

910
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:45,760
Speaker 2: State's offense was last year, that's a tantalizing situation.

911
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,959
Speaker 1: A bet against that's going to be an overlooked game

912
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 1: two yeah, in week two, but it's it's an interesting matchup,

913
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,359
Speaker 1: at least for Thorks like us. I'm up to eight

914
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 1: hundred K in bets. All right, I can go one

915
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:02,879
Speaker 1: big in or two smalls here to close out our

916
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:03,439
Speaker 1: little show.

917
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 2: So I have three hundred K left. I've got me

918
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 2: three fifty. Seven to fifty is what I've got for

919
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 2: you. You've I've got seven to fifty left, seven fifty okay,

920
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 2: so all right. I've made seven to fifty, so I

921
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 2: have two hundred and fifty if my way works out.

922
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 1: Hold on, I'm not good at math. That's two twenty five,

923
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 1: three twenty five okay, So you've got six fifty left.

924
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 2: I've got six fifty okay math.

925
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 1: Three fifty left? Yeah?

926
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 2: Sorry, all right, I don't know if you want to

927
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:34,879
Speaker 2: play the sound hmm there shots.

928
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 1: Shoot me straight.

929
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 2: Then when you got value wise, I don't fully believe this,

930
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 2: but value wise I like it. I've got LSU and

931
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 2: the under of nine wins, wow, and the under of

932
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 2: nine wins. I'm going to Texas. I've got one hundred

933
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 2: and fifty k on this YO. So going to Texas

934
00:48:58,280 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 2: Utah State, it won't be as good as they were

935
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 2: last probably, but we'll see Vanderbilt's fine on the road.

936
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 2: They should win that. But Florida at Mississippi State, Auburn,

937
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:11,760
Speaker 2: Alabama that's a rough October early November, and they finished

938
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 2: with A and M. So best case scenario for LSU,

939
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:20,240
Speaker 2: they're getting ten wins probably right they're losing something random

940
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:22,839
Speaker 2: and they're losing at Alabama. That's just how it works now,

941
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 2: So that's best case. You're beating it by your best

942
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:31,320
Speaker 2: case is barely covering this. So I think a medium

943
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 2: case is seven and five. A medium case for LSU

944
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 2: this year, especially without the heartbeat of their defense from

945
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 2: last year, I think they'll still be very good up front.

946
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 2: They recruited incredibly well. Their best cover corner from last season.

947
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 1: I don't know.

948
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 2: I like Chris Curry and what he might add to

949
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 2: the offense, a new running back to run over everybody,

950
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:55,839
Speaker 2: but that's tough sledding when you add in that tough

951
00:49:55,880 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 2: non conference game. So I think there's good value you

952
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 2: going under nine and going seven to five, eight and four.

953
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:05,399
Speaker 1: Why do you give me another one? All right? Both

954
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:07,720
Speaker 1: have this big one. Give me your big one.

955
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 2: Two hundred k. So the other pick that I had

956
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 2: at two hundred k was Penn State plus four and

957
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 2: a half by the way against Michigan. I have Georgia

958
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 2: winning the national championship at plus seven hundred seven to

959
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:23,359
Speaker 2: one odds right now for Georgia, which I like a lot.

960
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 1: So you're really high on Georgia. You weren't kidtens.

961
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 2: So I'm going home with one point four million dollars

962
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 2: if this hits.

963
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:33,800
Speaker 1: I like cut of your jib here how I.

964
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 2: Really like and I've liked him since since basically the

965
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,439
Speaker 2: Notre Dame game from his freshman year. I love Jake

966
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 2: from I love the recruiting around him, even though they

967
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 2: lose key pieces, you know, offensive skill wise and on defense,

968
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 2: big cogs. I just the talent level is so high

969
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 2: with Georgia that it makes sense to me that maybe

970
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 2: Alabama is only an eleven and one team this year,

971
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:03,479
Speaker 2: and maybe after two years of just doing something either

972
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 2: boneheaded like they did last year or just giving up

973
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:07,800
Speaker 2: the perfect play like they did the year before the

974
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 2: last play of the game. There's something about this year's

975
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 2: Georgia team, the depth, you know, My big thing is

976
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 2: quarterback and defense. I like the line in front of

977
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 2: Jake from a good deal. I don't. They have Notre

978
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 2: Dame at home, I believe, but that's not Week one

979
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:24,280
Speaker 2: or two. They have some time to get into a rhythm.

980
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 2: They go to Tennessee, which I think is going to

981
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 2: be tricky. They go to Auburn in the rivalry game,

982
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 2: which not gonna be easy at all. They go to Tech,

983
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 2: but this is a good year to get Tech as

984
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 2: they rebuild and retool. I like it. They don't have

985
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 2: Bama during the regular season and a random crossover they'll

986
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 2: have to go through, most likely Alabama in the championship game.

987
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:49,360
Speaker 2: And then I just the elite teams in college football

988
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,359
Speaker 2: don't jump out to me as obvious right now. Who

989
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 2: is it in the Pac twelve? Who is it in

990
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:56,839
Speaker 2: the Big twelve? I mean, probably still Oklahoma with their

991
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 2: recent track record. But you're buying in Jalen Hurts in

992
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 2: a new system year one. I think Justin Fields is

993
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 2: going to be a clear step back from Dwayne Haskins.

994
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 2: I don't think he is a plug and play at all.

995
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:12,360
Speaker 2: I think I think you're under selling Dwayne haskins specialness

996
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 2: from last year. If you think that, you know the

997
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 2: same questions about Michigan still linger. You know, Clemson is

998
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 2: the clear, clear, clear elite, But I don't know. I

999
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 2: think there's value there plus seven hundred quarterback and defense

1000
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:27,879
Speaker 2: and talent. Well you know what, Dan and a team

1001
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 2: that's been there recently. They've been there recently. If you're

1002
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 2: getting balls, I feel like I got it's not even

1003
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 2: that balls. Well it's not ballsy, but it's I think

1004
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:36,800
Speaker 2: the third most likely team.

1005
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 1: It's no, it's it's balls because first off, it's not

1006
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:43,359
Speaker 1: Clemson er Alabama, and second right, it's two hundred k

1007
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 1: on seven to one. That's a sure thing they're correct.

1008
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 1: So if you're doing it, I'm gonna do it too.

1009
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna break my own rule here. You've taken me

1010
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 1: off my game. Wow, I'm gonna go two hundred large

1011
00:52:57,600 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 1: on Trevor Lawrence to win the heis minute three and

1012
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 1: a half to one. Now he is the favorite. I

1013
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 1: also openly hate the Heisman Trophy.

1014
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:11,840
Speaker 2: But you like earning money.

1015
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 1: I like earning money, especially fake cliverbal bumps. Yeah, but

1016
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 1: if I win, if I hit this one with my

1017
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,879
Speaker 1: two hundred K, that I'm putting on it, that would

1018
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 1: essentially amount to what seven hundred k?

1019
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 2: The math checks out three and a half.

1020
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, that would fund some of the other losing bets

1021
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 1: that I have most assuredly made. Trevor Lawrences. I have

1022
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 1: been high on Trevor Lawrence ever since he was recruited.

1023
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 1: There was a moment, a brief moment towards the beginning

1024
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 1: part of last year where I wasn't sure, but then

1025
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 1: second half the season he clearly found his own. The

1026
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 1: playoff against Notre Dame, I'm not going to say was

1027
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 1: a coming out party, but it was certainly the biggest

1028
00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 1: game we had seen him play in his young career,

1029
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 1: and he didn't miss a beat. They killed Notre Dame

1030
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 1: in that game, and then they killed Alabama in the

1031
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:08,879
Speaker 1: National Championship. He left me so impressed. The only thing

1032
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:13,320
Speaker 1: stopping him from winning more national championships or the Heisman Trophy,

1033
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:16,359
Speaker 1: especially with his receiving corps that he's got coming back

1034
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen, is probably an injury and no one's

1035
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:19,959
Speaker 1: rooting for that.

1036
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 2: Absolutely correct? Is there? I mean, I'll have to think

1037
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 2: about it and go back. Is there a better duo

1038
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 2: right now than t Higgins? And Justin Ross No, I

1039
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 2: mean individually, maybe Laviska Shenault and Jerry Judy are there.

1040
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 1: No, And then when you factor in Travis Etn out

1041
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 1: of the backfield, who is also also on that list

1042
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 1: of Heisman front runners, it's just a murderer's row of

1043
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:45,360
Speaker 1: offensive weapons for Trevor Lawrence. He's going to have a

1044
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:47,879
Speaker 1: great support system around him. Three and a half to one.

1045
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 1: Not the best value for the Heisman, granted, certainly not

1046
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 1: as good as value as Sam Ellinger. I think I

1047
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:58,360
Speaker 1: talked myself off Trevor Lawrence earlier, but now that I

1048
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 1: see you get in ballsy with it. Two hundred K

1049
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 1: for me on Trevor Lawrence to win the Heisman Trophy

1050
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:05,439
Speaker 1: and that takes.

1051
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 2: So you also have a new look starting defensive line.

1052
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:11,400
Speaker 2: I know they rotate in a ton, so a new

1053
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 2: look starting defensive line, and some key defensive pieces from

1054
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 2: last year also have moved on. They're not dead, they're

1055
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:22,280
Speaker 2: just graduated or moved on to the NFL. We could

1056
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 2: see more. Oh, it's thirty four twenty one halfway through

1057
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:29,279
Speaker 2: the fourth where it would have been thirty four to

1058
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 2: seven poll Trevor Lawrence last year. So there could be

1059
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 2: some stat padding, you know, to get an extra eighty

1060
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:39,880
Speaker 2: three yards laid and touchdown, you know, get an extra

1061
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 2: twenty seven yards on a scramble out of bounds, something

1062
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 2: like that. That it makes sense. I don't think they're

1063
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 2: going to be super aggressive with him because of the

1064
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 2: quarterback depth. Like I said earlier, I think he gets

1065
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:54,920
Speaker 2: old entirely possible. But even still, if his efficiency is

1066
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 2: you know, if he's eleven yards per attempt and he's

1067
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:01,240
Speaker 2: you know, throwing touchdown pass is at an impressive clip,

1068
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 2: as long as the right people know that, he should

1069
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 2: be fine. The thing is, Kyler Murray had enough shootouts

1070
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 2: last year that his efficiency and his total numbers covered

1071
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 2: all bases. And hopefully that's the case with Trevor Lawrence.

1072
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:17,840
Speaker 2: I hope he has just a crazy good year, and

1073
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:21,280
Speaker 2: I think the remake of this this Clemson the remade

1074
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 2: element of this Clemson defense will help him.

1075
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:26,720
Speaker 1: To your point, though from earlier, eight of the last

1076
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 1: nine Heisman trophies have gone to quarterbacks. Yep, outside Trevor

1077
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:35,439
Speaker 1: Lawrence and two a tongue of II loa tonge, you're

1078
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 1: looking at guys like Jalen Hurts. I don't know if

1079
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Speaker 1: he's a Heisman caliber quarterback, but.

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Speaker 2: He's in a Heisman situation.

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Speaker 1: He's in a Heisman situation. I still feel better about

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. You're looking at Jake from who's a very

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00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 1: good quarterback in his own right, but probably won't have

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Speaker 1: the stats of either Trevor Lawrence or Tua right, and

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Speaker 1: then outside maybe Sam Ellnger or Boy or Justin hurt

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Speaker 1: Herbert your boy. It ain't going to Ian Book, doug Hey,

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Speaker 1: Khalil Tate's still around. Khalil Tate's still around. We got

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00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 1: some names on here that are interesting, but I don't

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00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:12,399
Speaker 1: think any rise to that level. So give me Trevor

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00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 1: Lawrence three and a half to one.

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Speaker 2: God so boring, I'm looking. I'm gonna give you another

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00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 2: name just because got it. Kelly Bryan at Maszoo. I

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00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 2: don't really fully see it. No, with that Ian Book now.

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Speaker 1: I really wanted to go Adrian Martinez. The problem with

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Speaker 1: Adrian Martinez, though, is that Nebraska would need to be

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Speaker 1: at least something of a contender to get real consideration

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Speaker 1: for Amart and I don't see that happening.

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Speaker 2: That's tough. Well, I mean, the defense could be kind

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Speaker 2: of a disaster, but which would mean a lot of

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Speaker 2: like fifty to forty seven type games, I guess, but

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Speaker 2: that would require the other Big Ten team to score

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Speaker 2: them many points. Jonathan Taylor. I think there's decent value

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Speaker 2: if the quarterbacks are all sort of mushed together and

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00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 2: they're all pretty good, but nobody is a spark Jonathan Taylor.

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Speaker 2: If he goes for over two thousand yards or and

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Speaker 2: does something. I mean he's not in the return game,

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Speaker 2: but if he is, that's sort of like, yeah, Derek

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00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 2: Henry candidate, where this's just not a good quarterback year,

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Speaker 2: seeing Wisconsin's pretty good and he just goes for twenty

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Speaker 2: three fifty.

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Speaker 1: If I could get like ten to one odds fifteen

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00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 1: to one odds on Rondale Moore going to New York

1113
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 1: being partner the ceremony, yeah, that is a bet that

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00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 1: might interest me. But at thirty three to one to

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00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 1: win it with all the AMMO in front of him,

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00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 1: it ain't happening.

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00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 2: I saw Notre Dame and I think it's nine and

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00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 2: a half right over under win total. Yes, how did

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00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 2: you feel about that? Because it was interesting to me

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Speaker 2: because I, on one hand, I feel like they are

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00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 2: built to They've had so much regular season success, but

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00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 2: they lose what the premier dude at every level on

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Speaker 2: their defense. They lose what Julian Love and Drew Tranquill

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00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 2: and Jerry Tillery like big, big deal names for Notre

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Speaker 2: Dame's defense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm looking at the schedule now. Yeah, the Georgia

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00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 1: game terrifies me, as a Michigan game on the road

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Speaker 1: terrifies me. And Stanford on the road last game of

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Speaker 1: the year should concern every Notre Dame Fame because they

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00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 1: always yeah, yeah, when it's in pala Azto, for sure,

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00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 1: they always sleeves that freaking game. So this is not

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00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 1: the schedule we saw last year. This is a much

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00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 1: more difficult schedule. The road tilts at Michigan and Georgia

1134
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 1: are going to be bloodbass. Plus you've got a game

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00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 1: in there against usc m H. You got a game

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00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 1: in there against Virginia Tech. I don't know if Virginia

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00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 1: Tech's gonna look like this.

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00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 2: Are they going to start Braxton Burmeister? Is that what

1139
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 2: I am understanding at this moment.

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00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 1: I hope not, But I would enjoy saying the name again.

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00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 2: I would love if he's just awesome. That'd be such

1142
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 2: a cool story. Maybe just Oregon just wasn't for him,

1143
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:49,520
Speaker 2: and he's just he finds himself in Blacksburg.

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00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 1: Who knows there's a sneaky Virginia game in here nine

1145
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 1: and a half right now.

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00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 2: Oh man, that Virginia game. If Notre Dame beats Georgia

1147
00:59:57,320 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 2: in Athens losing a.

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00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:02,439
Speaker 1: Virginia huge letdown game, I would be inclined to say

1149
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 1: nine to three at this point. I would not want

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01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:05,040
Speaker 1: to touch.

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01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:05,960
Speaker 2: That slight under.

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01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would not want to go over nine and

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01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 1: a half.

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01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:13,920
Speaker 2: So Georgia, Michigan, Stanford. Yeah, they've got BC the week

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01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 2: after Navy, which is your other traditional big fear game,

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01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 2: so no week off there. I was looking at Wisconsin.

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01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 2: Wisconsin's plus money at home. I believe they're at home

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01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 2: against Michigan this year, and that is after Michigan plays Army.

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01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:29,920
Speaker 2: But Michigan has a bye week. So that's the only

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01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 2: reason I didn't go with that. All right, So here's

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01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 2: what we got.

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Speaker 1: You've got stem Melinger at sixteen to one to win

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01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:41,160
Speaker 1: the Heisman, Nebraska under eight wins USC over seven and

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01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 1: a half, Auburn plus nine against Georgia. Penn stayed at

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01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:51,120
Speaker 1: home plus four and a half against Michigan LSU under

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01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 1: nine wins, and then to close it out your dogs

1167
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 1: at seven to one to win the national championship. For me,

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01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:02,640
Speaker 1: I've got Oklahoma State over the win totally six wins.

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01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 1: I've got Clemson over eleven wins. I've got Florida State

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01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:10,200
Speaker 1: over seven and a half wins, Oregon plus one over

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01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 1: USC Stanford minus two and a half on the road

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01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 1: second week of the year over UCF. I've got Arizona

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01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:20,439
Speaker 1: State also second week of the year plus six at

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01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 1: Michigan State. And then to close it out, got ballsy,

1175
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:26,360
Speaker 1: but not all that ballsy, going with Trevor Lawrence two

1176
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 1: hundred k three and a half to one to win

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01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:29,720
Speaker 1: the Heisman Trophy.

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01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 2: Not balls at all. You went with the favorite, not

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01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 2: balls at all. Can I tell you something that has

1180
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 2: been buzzing me for weeks please, and it's solid verbal related.

1181
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 2: Before we got I do it, you did not do

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01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:45,600
Speaker 2: it at all. I neglected to include something on our

1183
01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 2: Hot and Bothered episode. Yes that every time I think

1184
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:50,480
Speaker 2: about it, because there's a file on my computer. We

1185
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 2: don't need to play the file. But our Hot and

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01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:58,360
Speaker 2: Bothered episode was basically game things, something that happens. Sorry,

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01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:01,920
Speaker 2: thank you. So that's great game things that we just

1188
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 2: get excited about. We just like it could be happening

1189
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:10,080
Speaker 2: in any game. And if it happens, whether it's you know,

1190
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:14,160
Speaker 2: a defensive back celebrating after giving up a twenty three

1191
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:17,439
Speaker 2: yard huge pass but he has a huge hit, that's

1192
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:19,640
Speaker 2: just like, it's so fun and ridiculous. How can you

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01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:21,560
Speaker 2: not love it? Some of them are genuine, some of

1194
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 2: them are sort of petty, like that mine is genuine.

1195
01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 2: And I forgot to mention when a team has fourth

1196
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:31,920
Speaker 2: in inches in an enormous moment and they line up

1197
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:34,440
Speaker 2: in some sort of jumbo package, like they have two

1198
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 2: defensive linemen in as fullbacks whatever, and they're just going

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01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:40,520
Speaker 2: to do everything possible to get those you know, that

1200
01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 2: foot and a half whatever it is, and they do.

1201
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:47,080
Speaker 2: They play action and somebody's wide open behind the defense's

1202
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:48,960
Speaker 2: cover zero or something, and it goes for like a

1203
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:53,840
Speaker 2: seventy one yard play, the James Brown play. Do you

1204
01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:54,280
Speaker 2: remember this?

1205
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:54,680
Speaker 1: Yes?

1206
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:58,479
Speaker 2: And the Big twelve Championship ever, way way back when

1207
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:03,600
Speaker 2: was so so damn great that I went back and

1208
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:06,800
Speaker 2: watched the clip a million and a half times and

1209
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:12,000
Speaker 2: that to me when a team just has giant, giant

1210
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:16,120
Speaker 2: kohones in a spot like that. Sometimes the naked bootleg,

1211
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:18,120
Speaker 2: that's great, like when Alex Smith did it against I

1212
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:20,040
Speaker 2: think it was the Saints in the playoffs in the NFL.

1213
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:24,840
Speaker 2: That's pretty great. But that little pass, that little flick

1214
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:27,520
Speaker 2: when it looks like they're just going to throw ten

1215
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:30,720
Speaker 2: thousand rhinos at the line of scrimmage. Yeah, that's my

1216
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:34,320
Speaker 2: favorite thing. That's my favorite favorite thing. And I forgot

1217
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:36,360
Speaker 2: to mention that during the show, and I wanted to

1218
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:38,960
Speaker 2: make sure everybody knew just how hot and bothered that

1219
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 2: made me think it was against Nebraska, right.

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01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:45,120
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I also have one. Okay, wow, it's not

1221
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 1: nearly a spicy I've actually been thinking about it for

1222
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:51,480
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks now. M It's an aesthetically pleasing

1223
01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:51,960
Speaker 1: thing to me.

1224
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 2: Oh that's fine.

1225
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:57,480
Speaker 1: Tiger Stadium at LSU, yep, they have the numbers every

1226
01:03:57,520 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 1: five yards instead of ten.

1227
01:03:59,400 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 2: I do like that.

1228
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:02,480
Speaker 1: It's just different. It's unique.

1229
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:04,240
Speaker 2: I like that a lot. And you know what else

1230
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:05,840
Speaker 2: I like about the field. If we're going to talk

1231
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:08,720
Speaker 2: about the field at Tiger Stadium and Death Valley, I

1232
01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:10,960
Speaker 2: love how the middle of the field is that I

1233
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 2: I have the Tiger, but.

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01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:14,680
Speaker 1: With a little Grady and effect on it. It's nice.

1235
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:16,800
Speaker 2: They blended so well. I don't know.

1236
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:18,480
Speaker 1: I need to know how they do that.

1237
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:22,400
Speaker 2: I have to think about my favorite fields in a

1238
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:26,040
Speaker 2: pretty serious way because I fancy myself a college football

1239
01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:26,600
Speaker 2: Do you want to do.

1240
01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 1: Our favorite fields episode?

1241
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 2: We could do, God, just just a full episode dedicated

1242
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:32,120
Speaker 2: to aesthetics.

1243
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:32,680
Speaker 1: We could get it.

1244
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:34,439
Speaker 2: Yes, we can get a audience show.

1245
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:36,320
Speaker 1: We could get people on this show that would actually

1246
01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:37,760
Speaker 1: that's true a conversation.

1247
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:40,840
Speaker 2: I think LSU has my favorite field, but I'm gonna

1248
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:42,760
Speaker 2: have to give it. I'm not willing to fully commit

1249
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:45,160
Speaker 2: to that, all right. I love I love the every

1250
01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:46,360
Speaker 2: five yard things. That's a great call.

1251
01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:50,720
Speaker 1: Every five yards. The checkerboard at Neiland Stateiu's pretty cool too,

1252
01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:52,040
Speaker 1: But I'm rewatching.

1253
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:54,960
Speaker 2: So as I described they call it role left. This

1254
01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:58,440
Speaker 2: huge play, there are two, not one, but two fullbacks

1255
01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:02,960
Speaker 2: in for Texas. Every single member of the Nebraska defense

1256
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:07,080
Speaker 2: is within Let's see, the safety is about four yards back,

1257
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:10,200
Speaker 2: so the safety is barely in at a linebacker depth,

1258
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:15,200
Speaker 2: and James Brown rolls out but doesn't even really sell

1259
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:19,400
Speaker 2: the handoff, rolls away from his strong side. And when

1260
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:22,120
Speaker 2: got number eighty two, I apologize for not knowing who

1261
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:26,560
Speaker 2: caught this pass. When he catches it, he's lidecying Nebraska.

1262
01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 2: There is not a Nebraska player in the frame. Nebraska

1263
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:33,440
Speaker 2: is the field goal block. They essentially went with the

1264
01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:35,400
Speaker 2: NC doble, and you know, good for Nebraska. I think

1265
01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:37,560
Speaker 2: they got him down around the five yard line. Ten

1266
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:41,480
Speaker 2: yard line, so great, But man was out a thing.

1267
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:45,800
Speaker 2: Whenever somebody gets lidcied, it's beautiful, all right, Well it

1268
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:46,480
Speaker 2: was bothering me.

1269
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1270
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:54,640
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Speaker 1: run by our favorite verballers. We pop in from time

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Speaker 1: want to get more info on the forthcoming shirts and

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01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:23,040
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Speaker 1: same here, fun show tonight. Yeah, I will do my

1282
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 1: best to try and list out these picks somewhere. Surely

1283
01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:37,200
Speaker 1: no one really cares other than us.

1284
01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:39,560
Speaker 2: Let's see who makes more money, though, But let's.

1285
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:41,960
Speaker 1: See who makes more fake, solid verbal dollars For that

1286
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Speaker 1: guy over there, my good friend Dan Rubinstein. For myself,

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Speaker 1: catch you all next week. In the meantime, stay solid, hey,