WEBVTT - Stop & Go 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:02.360 Be sure to catch live editions of The Ben Maller 0:00:02.400 --> 0:00:04.760 Show week days at two a m. Eastern eleven p 0:00:04.920 --> 0:00:08.959 m Pacific Boom. If you thought four hours a day, 0:00:09.960 --> 0:00:13.119 minutes a week was enough, I think again. He's the 0:00:13.200 --> 0:00:17.200 last remnants of the old Republic, a sole fashion of fairness. 0:00:17.360 --> 0:00:20.360 He treats crackheads in the ghetto Cutter the same as 0:00:20.400 --> 0:00:24.400 the rich pill poppers in the penthouse. The clearing House 0:00:24.480 --> 0:00:28.160 of Hot takes break free for something special. The Fifth 0:00:28.160 --> 0:00:32.559 Hour with Ben Maller starts right now, and we are 0:00:32.640 --> 0:00:38.599 eat the air everywhere, even while on furlough, coast to coast, 0:00:38.680 --> 0:00:41.760 border to war and anywhere. You can download podcast The 0:00:41.920 --> 0:00:45.800 Fifth Hour with myself and for better or worse, David 0:00:45.880 --> 0:00:49.640 Gaston Gascon because four hours not enough of the overnight, 0:00:50.040 --> 0:00:51.760 and we do this eight days a week, although not 0:00:51.960 --> 0:00:57.560 this week because of some furlough time. Gascon. I right 0:00:57.640 --> 0:01:01.040 now I'm actually laying in a hammock having a drink 0:01:01.720 --> 0:01:05.800 at a beach somewhere in a super secret location. But 0:01:06.200 --> 0:01:08.320 we can record this whatever, and so we have the 0:01:08.440 --> 0:01:10.920 podcast for the mall emotion. Because I'm a man of 0:01:10.920 --> 0:01:13.920 the people. Gascon. That's why. Yeah, it's It's great kind 0:01:13.920 --> 0:01:15.800 of you to do that, and then dragged me out 0:01:15.920 --> 0:01:20.600 of a gurney. Uh, well, where I was in the hospital, 0:01:20.600 --> 0:01:23.319 and you get my ass to the studio that was 0:01:23.480 --> 0:01:27.240 out patient. That was outpatient. I spent an entire week 0:01:27.760 --> 0:01:31.039 in the hospital on my deathbed, literally on my deathbed 0:01:31.080 --> 0:01:34.080 when they chopped my guts open and took my gallbladder out. 0:01:34.240 --> 0:01:36.640 You had a minor medical procedure. But I do give 0:01:36.680 --> 0:01:38.880 you credit for showing up because I have worked with 0:01:38.920 --> 0:01:41.360 people in the past that would have melked it and 0:01:41.440 --> 0:01:43.440 taken two months off. So I will give you a 0:01:43.520 --> 0:01:46.560 slight bit of credit. But don't tell anybody. I I 0:01:46.600 --> 0:01:48.640 don't know if I sent you the picture on it, 0:01:48.760 --> 0:01:54.120 but I brought the tube out from from the doctor's office. Yeah, 0:01:54.160 --> 0:01:55.520 for those that don't know. If you didn't hear the 0:01:55.520 --> 0:01:59.080 previous podcast, Gascon had a medical procedure on a tube 0:01:59.480 --> 0:02:02.400 that had been implanted in his ear and was supposed 0:02:02.400 --> 0:02:05.280 to that wasn't it supposed to just naturally leave your body? Yeah? 0:02:05.320 --> 0:02:07.640 Didn't you? Did you have this when you were a kid? 0:02:07.880 --> 0:02:11.080 I did? I did, and I have my right ear 0:02:11.320 --> 0:02:16.880 is freaking terrible. It is horrible. Uh, And I I 0:02:16.960 --> 0:02:21.160 my My left ear is average, so I have one 0:02:21.240 --> 0:02:23.840 average year and then I had one terrible ear. But 0:02:23.880 --> 0:02:25.679 I did have tubes in my ears when I was 0:02:25.720 --> 0:02:28.000 a kid, and my my wife's I go to the 0:02:28.040 --> 0:02:30.399 ear doctor. Go to the ear doctor said, I told, 0:02:30.520 --> 0:02:33.440 what am I gonna do? I got I wear headphones 0:02:33.560 --> 0:02:37.760 blasting for thirty hours a week at my job. I 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:39.920 can't not do that. I that's how that you do 0:02:40.000 --> 0:02:42.200 the job. And so But anyway, so you had your 0:02:42.280 --> 0:02:44.560 situation guest on you and how long did this take? 0:02:44.600 --> 0:02:46.640 How long did the medical procedure take? Well, it's a 0:02:46.639 --> 0:02:49.600 little bit of a racket. It took about thirty minutes 0:02:49.639 --> 0:02:52.600 to do. But the kicker on this too, for anyone 0:02:52.680 --> 0:02:54.560 wants to do it. It's just like going to a hospital. 0:02:54.560 --> 0:02:57.480 Now where ben you know this. You don't get billed 0:02:57.480 --> 0:03:00.639 by just the hospital anymore for your procedure. You get 0:03:00.639 --> 0:03:04.639 billed by the doctor separately. So they brought me in 0:03:04.720 --> 0:03:06.880 and I had to meet with an audiologist in a 0:03:07.040 --> 0:03:10.440 in a hearing booth. So then they charge me to 0:03:10.560 --> 0:03:15.040 get my hearing tested and then the doctor comes in, 0:03:15.120 --> 0:03:18.000 the e n T comes in to remove the tube. 0:03:18.600 --> 0:03:22.320 But Matt, like they it feels like they're shaving something 0:03:22.320 --> 0:03:26.040 in my ear drum, like they obviously put a local 0:03:26.120 --> 0:03:29.880 astigia in it, and then just slowly starts tapping and tapping, 0:03:30.440 --> 0:03:34.120 and then it's like a pin prick and before you 0:03:34.160 --> 0:03:36.560 know it, he removes it and he puts another device 0:03:36.600 --> 0:03:38.840 in there to like suck out the gunk or whatever's 0:03:38.920 --> 0:03:43.480 left in there. And it's it's probably the size of 0:03:44.160 --> 0:03:50.080 a pencil head. It's so small, and it fucking kills 0:03:50.120 --> 0:03:53.600 so fair. Yeah, it's not. It's the smaller they are, 0:03:53.640 --> 0:03:56.480 the more painful they can. It's like it's like the 0:03:56.520 --> 0:03:59.280 equivalent of you walking around with like a pebble in 0:03:59.320 --> 0:04:02.040 your in your you yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a good anolgy. 0:04:02.240 --> 0:04:06.000 Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, that's uh, that's that's brutal. But 0:04:06.160 --> 0:04:09.280 it's out now. Can you when you when you left, 0:04:09.360 --> 0:04:12.520 you could hear better, You were in less pain. It 0:04:12.600 --> 0:04:15.800 feels like it feels like someone's pushing against my ear 0:04:15.880 --> 0:04:18.520 drum right now. Um, part of it's because it was 0:04:18.560 --> 0:04:23.560 bleeding overnight the incision he made, but yeah, there's just 0:04:23.600 --> 0:04:26.880 the pressure. But ultimately I'm hoping that the removal of 0:04:26.920 --> 0:04:30.599 that tube will alleviate the headaches I've been getting. In 0:04:30.640 --> 0:04:34.000 that region of my head. So yeah, I gotta wait 0:04:34.080 --> 0:04:35.880 three or four days to get that done. So this 0:04:35.960 --> 0:04:40.280 is a process. So why while I'm sulking here, what'st 0:04:40.320 --> 0:04:43.000 of the four oh five? You're off on beaches and 0:04:43.240 --> 0:04:47.200 unknown lands? You find cocktails. I hope at least you're 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:51.040 having a couple of chicken sandwiches while you relax. No, 0:04:51.360 --> 0:04:53.280 I've done that the last couple of weekends, so I 0:04:53.680 --> 0:04:55.640 I'm moving on now. I think I'm gonna do some 0:04:55.720 --> 0:04:58.839 other rip off recipes. I've either I'm flipped. I don't 0:04:58.839 --> 0:05:00.520 know what I'm gonna do this week out it next week, 0:05:00.520 --> 0:05:04.880 but I'm either gonna make Beijing beef or orange chicken. 0:05:04.920 --> 0:05:08.200 I could rip off of restaurant like Panda Express, or 0:05:08.839 --> 0:05:13.120 there's another one from what's the high end bougie Chinese restaurant. 0:05:13.360 --> 0:05:16.640 There's pay Away, well pay Away, but the Payway is 0:05:16.680 --> 0:05:20.040 actually a spinoff of the other restaurant, Oh Panda and 0:05:20.120 --> 0:05:23.000 not Panda Express is a fast food version, which I 0:05:23.000 --> 0:05:25.440 don't mind. I like Panta Express, but no, the high 0:05:25.520 --> 0:05:28.200 end like Payway, and there's a higher end I don't know. 0:05:28.320 --> 0:05:32.520 I've never been to. You've been. It's a chain it's 0:05:32.520 --> 0:05:37.960 a chain gasca. Um, I'm thinking what flame broiler? No, no, 0:05:38.080 --> 0:05:42.039 not flame Broiler. Uh, what is the name? I don't know. 0:05:42.120 --> 0:05:44.600 I've only got to Panda Express and pay Away. That 0:05:44.680 --> 0:05:46.160 was the only ones I go to. Those are the 0:05:46.240 --> 0:05:48.920 only two that you go to. But but all right, 0:05:48.960 --> 0:05:54.039 I thought Payway was a spinoff of another restaurant, like 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:57.400 a more of a quicker type thing. Noo am I 0:05:57.440 --> 0:06:00.520 am I wrong on that? Yeah? No, because you're you're 0:06:00.520 --> 0:06:02.840 wrong because you could sit there. No, you know, I'm right, 0:06:02.920 --> 0:06:05.560 I'm right. P F Changs that was the one boom 0:06:05.920 --> 0:06:09.600 p F Chang's guesscan you can make either p F 0:06:09.760 --> 0:06:12.039 Chang version or Panda Express. But I'm more you know, 0:06:12.160 --> 0:06:14.440 west of the four oh Five's p F Changs, which 0:06:14.480 --> 0:06:17.200 is surprising you've not been there, and then east of 0:06:17.240 --> 0:06:20.760 the four oh five would be like pand Express. Yeah, 0:06:20.760 --> 0:06:25.000 I don't really, I'm not really down for p F Chang's. Well, well, 0:06:25.000 --> 0:06:28.760 PF Change is too expensive? Is uh the the issue there? 0:06:28.800 --> 0:06:32.440 For a radio budget? It's now remember the advice I 0:06:32.440 --> 0:06:34.520 gave you, guest Gon before you went in. You you're 0:06:34.720 --> 0:06:37.360 text me before you were going in for the medical procedure. 0:06:38.520 --> 0:06:41.040 Remember what I said there. I asked a question about 0:06:41.080 --> 0:06:44.240 the doctor. Yeah, don't piss in the wind. No, no, 0:06:44.279 --> 0:06:46.040 I think I think it was. I hope that's wet. 0:06:46.080 --> 0:06:47.800 I hope that's east of the four oh five. I 0:06:47.839 --> 0:06:50.640 think it's what I said, that medical procedure. No, no, 0:06:50.880 --> 0:06:53.960 actually no it was. It was last I did it 0:06:54.000 --> 0:06:58.279 down in now in South Rodando Beach. I gotta, you know, 0:06:58.400 --> 0:07:00.640 I gotta go over the top notch tres are like, 0:07:00.680 --> 0:07:02.960 you know, if you're a female, you're not going you're 0:07:02.960 --> 0:07:05.120 not going for any kind of plastic surgery east of 0:07:05.120 --> 0:07:07.960 the four oh five, are you? Why not? It's cheaper 0:07:08.040 --> 0:07:11.600 that way. Also, the doctors aren't listen. You know, the 0:07:11.640 --> 0:07:14.520 person that graduates medical school with the worst grade is 0:07:14.520 --> 0:07:17.080 still called the doctor. They're not called not a doctor. 0:07:17.120 --> 0:07:19.640 There's still the doctor. Yeah. Well, like actually getting into 0:07:19.680 --> 0:07:23.480 somewhere that's like prominent in terms of hospitals, because if 0:07:23.520 --> 0:07:27.000 you're in California, you want to be at USC USC Yeah, 0:07:27.120 --> 0:07:28.840 U S C, U C l A or U C 0:07:29.160 --> 0:07:31.560 S D, like those are the those are the hospitals 0:07:31.600 --> 0:07:33.360 that you want to be working for. So all right, 0:07:33.400 --> 0:07:37.080 well we're getting carried away here. This is a Conversation podcast. 0:07:37.120 --> 0:07:38.480 I know you're trying to make it all about you, 0:07:38.840 --> 0:07:42.080 you're narcissistic personality, but this is not about you. All 0:07:42.160 --> 0:07:43.960 right now, before we tell you who's on today, should 0:07:43.960 --> 0:07:46.360 already know that by looking at the podcast itself. But 0:07:46.800 --> 0:07:50.000 cameo dot com, cameo dot com. 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And listener engagement too, that's right, interaction, 0:08:55.880 --> 0:08:59.679 and we might even have advertising and things like you 0:08:59.760 --> 0:09:01.600 never know, you never know, any of those things all 0:09:01.720 --> 0:09:03.840 might be part of this. In addition this this would 0:09:03.880 --> 0:09:06.640 be like a spin off of the radio show and 0:09:07.200 --> 0:09:09.559 of this podcast. I'm a little worried about it. I'm 0:09:09.600 --> 0:09:13.920 not gonna lie. I'm only worried about the technical element, 0:09:14.000 --> 0:09:16.760 which could be a cluster fuck. That's That's what I'm 0:09:16.760 --> 0:09:18.920 worried about. But other than that, I think it'll be fine. 0:09:18.960 --> 0:09:21.319 The content will be good. I think the content will 0:09:21.360 --> 0:09:24.280 be good if people can hear it. That's a different conversation. Anyway, 0:09:24.559 --> 0:09:26.440 Enough of that about that, let's welcome in right now. 0:09:27.160 --> 0:09:29.040 We don't have really guests. We have people to hang 0:09:29.120 --> 0:09:30.840 out with, those people that we like, people that are 0:09:30.880 --> 0:09:32.960 friends of the show and friends of us in real life. 0:09:33.360 --> 0:09:38.080 For example, Leo Terrell. We had Leo on a while back, 0:09:38.600 --> 0:09:43.240 mid apocalypse and Leo the fair minded civil rights attorney 0:09:43.320 --> 0:09:46.920 who is a well regarded long time talk shows. In fact, 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:51.199 our careers have coincided in l A radio. Leo has 0:09:51.280 --> 0:09:54.520 been a talk to host at k ABC in Los 0:09:54.600 --> 0:09:57.679 Angeles for many, many years. And I have been a 0:09:57.920 --> 0:10:00.319 closet listener of Leo. I've heard him for the years. 0:10:00.320 --> 0:10:03.640 I always enjoy his style on the radio and UH, 0:10:03.840 --> 0:10:06.760 and he's been very kindy. He's a fan of sports. 0:10:06.800 --> 0:10:09.240 He listens to our show at night. He's also become 0:10:09.240 --> 0:10:13.480 a big star recently contributor on Fox News. He's regularly 0:10:13.559 --> 0:10:17.720 with Sean Hannity and UH. Leo does not hold back. 0:10:17.960 --> 0:10:20.400 He does not hold back. So we welcome in now 0:10:20.679 --> 0:10:23.640 the fair minded civil rights attorney Leo Terrell. Leo, we 0:10:23.760 --> 0:10:27.719 had you on a while back, and since then, the 0:10:28.000 --> 0:10:31.280 NBA has held a boycott of the NBA PLAYFFS. What 0:10:31.360 --> 0:10:34.200 did you make of what has happened recently in the NBA. 0:10:34.800 --> 0:10:38.439 My take from the NBA boycott was it was disingenuous. 0:10:38.720 --> 0:10:41.720 I didn't know why they were boycotting if they were 0:10:41.840 --> 0:10:45.679 upset about the UH shooting of U. Mr Blake they 0:10:45.679 --> 0:10:48.199 should wait till all the facts come in. And I 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:52.920 think it was a misguided decision. And more importantly, uh, 0:10:53.760 --> 0:10:56.480 I think they didn' get anything what they wanted, whatever 0:10:56.559 --> 0:11:01.240 they wanted. Let me be specific. Uh, these were NBA players, multimillionaires, 0:11:01.280 --> 0:11:06.240 surrounded by private security. Uh, probably armed private security. Uh. 0:11:06.360 --> 0:11:09.559 They complained about the system, they never defined the system, 0:11:10.000 --> 0:11:12.640 and then they wanted racial justice. I don't know what 0:11:12.800 --> 0:11:17.520 racial justice is from from their perspective. And more importantly, Uh, 0:11:17.679 --> 0:11:20.160 their talk is cheap. They don't vote, I think less 0:11:21.480 --> 0:11:25.680 these players actually vote. So to me, I honestly could 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:28.240 not understand their message, and I would love to have 0:11:28.400 --> 0:11:32.280 somebody tell me what was their message, why they boycotted, 0:11:32.600 --> 0:11:36.000 and what do they accomplish. Yeah, it's interesting though, because 0:11:36.000 --> 0:11:39.320 I did see there was a list of demands. They 0:11:39.400 --> 0:11:43.520 were asking for police reform and uh a bunch of 0:11:43.559 --> 0:11:47.320 other kind of random things. They are related to police 0:11:48.040 --> 0:11:50.480 dealing with the public. But you're right, there's there's no 0:11:50.640 --> 0:11:54.000 specific list. They were trying to put pressure on some 0:11:54.120 --> 0:11:58.679 politicians to make some changes. But it's really scattershot. Is 0:11:59.160 --> 0:12:02.520 are they getting advice from outside influences here? I mean, 0:12:02.720 --> 0:12:07.959 what is driving this because we've seen sporadically guys in 0:12:08.120 --> 0:12:11.160 sports that were outspoken. But it seems like it's a 0:12:11.240 --> 0:12:15.280 collective effort. Right now, What's what's going on. I think 0:12:15.320 --> 0:12:19.480 they're influenced by some very very politically savvy people who 0:12:19.559 --> 0:12:21.880 have a specific agenda. Let me tell what the agenda is. 0:12:22.360 --> 0:12:26.319 They hate Trump, these operatives UH the NBA seems in 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:30.480 my opinion to be a democratic UH wing or an 0:12:30.520 --> 0:12:33.280 operative of the Democratic Party. There's no question that Lebron 0:12:33.440 --> 0:12:36.400 James is involved in the Democratic Party. I think the 0:12:36.480 --> 0:12:39.640 problem with that. But but but this, this this yelling 0:12:39.679 --> 0:12:44.960 out of ratio ingtice, systemic discrimination. These guys are using 0:12:45.040 --> 0:12:47.599 words that they don't even know what what they refer to. 0:12:48.160 --> 0:12:50.079 Now I have an advantage. I'm a lawyer. I know 0:12:50.160 --> 0:12:53.160 exactly what those words referred to, and I don't see 0:12:53.640 --> 0:12:56.280 their rhetoric. But that's all. It is a lot of 0:12:56.440 --> 0:12:59.559 YACKI I don't see any substant change. If they want 0:12:59.559 --> 0:13:01.640 to change the system run for office, they want to 0:13:01.720 --> 0:13:04.280 change the systems vote. But here's the thing about it. 0:13:04.720 --> 0:13:09.480 It's pandury. It's racial penury. And they have a megap 0:13:09.600 --> 0:13:15.080 platform that plays into this penury, that gives this impression 0:13:15.200 --> 0:13:18.600 that the whole system in this country is rigg, it's 0:13:18.679 --> 0:13:23.480 all racist, notwithstanding the fact that you got black police officers, 0:13:23.600 --> 0:13:28.160 black mayors, black governors, brown people of all different colors 0:13:28.200 --> 0:13:32.280 in shape in the police department. This is not nineteen sixty. 0:13:32.800 --> 0:13:37.000 It's not Bull Connor and the German shepherds chasing black 0:13:37.200 --> 0:13:41.800 kids down the street. This is where you got multi 0:13:42.360 --> 0:13:46.600 millionaire black men playing a game of basketball and they 0:13:46.679 --> 0:13:51.920 live the greatest life in the world. Leo, if if 0:13:52.000 --> 0:13:57.360 that's pandering or is the media guilty of enabling, because 0:13:57.440 --> 0:14:01.000 it seems like it doesn't matter if it's the news, politics, 0:14:01.320 --> 0:14:04.600 or even in sports. Is that you have a lot 0:14:04.679 --> 0:14:07.520 of these people that are on air, radio and television 0:14:07.840 --> 0:14:11.720 that are echoing these statements or these sentiments, and they're 0:14:11.760 --> 0:14:15.040 they're jumping to the conclusions before they have all the facts. 0:14:16.200 --> 0:14:19.560 Any kind of case. Let me answer that, what is 0:14:19.680 --> 0:14:24.360 the media enabling these guys? Let me think about that. Yes, yes, 0:14:25.680 --> 0:14:30.880 M S, NBC, CNN, The New York Times, Washington Post, 0:14:31.720 --> 0:14:37.280 T and T. Unfortunately, I'm sorry, ESPN. They just gave in. 0:14:37.440 --> 0:14:41.120 They just they drink the cool. They're providing this fall 0:14:42.040 --> 0:14:47.280 platform that allows these guys to vent over racial injustice. 0:14:47.600 --> 0:14:50.800 Ron James. I read a quote for him. I fear 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:53.360 for every X man. We're afraid to go home. We're 0:14:53.360 --> 0:14:58.680 afraid to go out at night, Ron James. Seriously, seriously, 0:14:58.840 --> 0:15:02.160 that's that that most Black Americans are afraid to go home. 0:15:02.360 --> 0:15:06.320 They're afraid of the police, seriously, because they're all surrounded 0:15:06.360 --> 0:15:10.880 by private security that are heavily armed. So see, that's pandory. 0:15:11.640 --> 0:15:15.080 And then the media gives them this platform. And that's 0:15:15.080 --> 0:15:18.560 why I said earlier this week it's disingenuous. I don't 0:15:18.560 --> 0:15:21.080 believe that. I don't believe those guys are suffering from 0:15:21.400 --> 0:15:25.520 racial injustice. I mean, this is crazy. And the Jacob 0:15:25.600 --> 0:15:29.360 Blake case. Gonna be very clear, this is not George Floyd. 0:15:29.480 --> 0:15:33.120 Let me repeat that for everyone listening. That Jacob Blake case, 0:15:33.320 --> 0:15:38.600 it is not George Floyd. Period. Yes he got shot. 0:15:39.120 --> 0:15:43.560 Tragic situation, but let's wait until all the facts come 0:15:43.600 --> 0:15:46.600 in and all this just a side note. All this 0:15:46.800 --> 0:15:50.680 protesting that's going on, alleged protesting, it's not protesting. It's 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:54.960 criminal misconduct. Is looting, is Robbie is killing people? Is 0:15:55.000 --> 0:15:57.960 black on black crime. This is a sham and of 0:15:58.040 --> 0:16:00.600 the civil rights attorney, I have the credibility to call 0:16:00.640 --> 0:16:03.520 it what it is. The NBA players at last week 0:16:03.600 --> 0:16:07.280 of boycotting with a sham leo, I guess there's so 0:16:07.400 --> 0:16:10.760 much fingerpoint and that's going left and right and and 0:16:10.960 --> 0:16:14.240 at the president, at the mayor's, at the governors, at 0:16:14.280 --> 0:16:17.960 the athletes. We'd like to think that we're solutions based 0:16:18.080 --> 0:16:22.600 right as a country. So what ultimately Kenny's professional leagues 0:16:22.680 --> 0:16:26.320 do to to help what ultimately they want to do, 0:16:26.560 --> 0:16:30.240 which is to make sure there's social equality and everyone's 0:16:30.640 --> 0:16:34.640 treated equally. Well, I'll tell you right now that's a 0:16:34.680 --> 0:16:38.240 good question. Uh When when I say get involved in 0:16:38.280 --> 0:16:42.520 the process, I would suggest submit to you. That is 0:16:42.680 --> 0:16:47.000 the first step because it changes the dynamics of who's 0:16:47.040 --> 0:16:49.880 calling the shots. And there are there are people who 0:16:50.080 --> 0:16:54.520 rely on people not sody and and play the pandumy game. 0:16:54.560 --> 0:16:56.840 So I would submit to you. If the NBA wanted 0:16:56.920 --> 0:17:01.120 to set a good example, vote all of the players, 0:17:01.360 --> 0:17:04.720 everyone associated with the NBA use their power to get 0:17:04.800 --> 0:17:08.080 everyone register and to vote. It's a two prong issue. 0:17:08.280 --> 0:17:12.360 Register and vote. Second one most important. Most of those 0:17:12.440 --> 0:17:18.240 players are unique athletes, the best of the best, of 0:17:18.320 --> 0:17:22.440 those young men who have aspiration being basketball players will 0:17:22.480 --> 0:17:28.399 never happen. Education. Education, let me repeat, education is the 0:17:28.520 --> 0:17:33.919 key to break the poverty cycle. So all these multi coasillionaires, 0:17:34.920 --> 0:17:39.240 let's stop pandering to these certain uh special interest groups 0:17:39.280 --> 0:17:43.200 like teacher unions who do not want private school I 0:17:43.280 --> 0:17:47.160 give Lebron James credit for his promise school, but let's 0:17:47.720 --> 0:17:52.040 give minority kids a chance to go to a quality education. 0:17:52.320 --> 0:17:56.920 Let's break up these horrible teacher unions who pay Democrats 0:17:57.160 --> 0:18:02.720 to keep poor minority kids and poor public schools. Why 0:18:02.760 --> 0:18:06.000 would the Democrats, why would anybody on this planet be 0:18:06.200 --> 0:18:11.560 against school choice? Charter schools, private schools, makes no sense 0:18:11.600 --> 0:18:15.639 at all. So there is registered to vote, talk to walk, 0:18:16.000 --> 0:18:20.000 and also put all that charity money, all those contributions 0:18:20.160 --> 0:18:24.720 into building up the greatest private education system for people 0:18:24.760 --> 0:18:28.200 of color. And Leoly you mentioned the voting thing and 0:18:28.520 --> 0:18:32.159 all of sports. So the last couple of months is uh, 0:18:32.520 --> 0:18:35.560 we're gonna have voting station. I think NBA arenas, most 0:18:35.680 --> 0:18:38.600 NBA arenas are gonna have that. A lot of baseball 0:18:38.640 --> 0:18:42.600 stadiums and whatnot. But here's the question, how much influence. 0:18:42.600 --> 0:18:44.600 I've always wondered this, not just now because of the 0:18:44.680 --> 0:18:47.200 times we're in. But in your opinion, you've been around 0:18:47.240 --> 0:18:49.360 the game a long time. When you look at celebrities, 0:18:49.359 --> 0:18:51.960 whether it's Hollywood or athletes in the world that we 0:18:52.119 --> 0:18:54.600 deal with, how much does that really move the need 0:18:54.760 --> 0:18:57.119 you think people are gonna go vote based on whatever 0:18:57.200 --> 0:18:59.720 they hear from, not that they're not going to vote, 0:18:59.720 --> 0:19:01.920 but if they they're gonna vote for a specific candidate 0:19:02.000 --> 0:19:05.440 based on an endorsement vias celebrity, how much sway do 0:19:05.520 --> 0:19:08.280 you think that actually has That's a good question. Zero 0:19:09.800 --> 0:19:15.639 zero zero. Don't tell Lebron that though, No, no, no, no, no, 0:19:15.800 --> 0:19:19.840 no zero absolutely. I mean Lebron, I remember in the election, 0:19:20.000 --> 0:19:24.359 Lebron jay Z Beyonce holding those big mega concerts and 0:19:24.520 --> 0:19:27.560 people showed up for the concert, they didn't vote. I mean, 0:19:27.960 --> 0:19:33.440 let's let's be honest. Lebron supported Hillary, had concerts jay 0:19:33.560 --> 0:19:38.720 Z Beyonce, she lost the constituents that he was appealing to, 0:19:39.160 --> 0:19:43.239 came out in had the lowest turnout. Black voters came 0:19:43.280 --> 0:19:47.000 out and low number against Hiller. With Hillary, they's at home, 0:19:47.760 --> 0:19:50.920 so no influence. So he takes that money and he 0:19:51.200 --> 0:19:54.320 channels that money and that influence that he has. It's 0:19:54.320 --> 0:19:58.159 a different area and maybe you can redirect the energy. 0:19:58.440 --> 0:20:03.800 But as far as currently zero influence, it's misguided. Yeah, 0:20:03.920 --> 0:20:06.280 and it's also as far as Lebron, and we want 0:20:06.280 --> 0:20:08.320 to go back to the boycott. We talked about the 0:20:08.359 --> 0:20:12.560 beginning here, Leo, because Lebron, according to reports, voted not 0:20:12.760 --> 0:20:15.200 to play. He wanted to shut down the entire season 0:20:15.280 --> 0:20:18.840 and leave the bubble. And he was according to these 0:20:19.000 --> 0:20:21.959 glowing reports, he was leading the charge and he walked 0:20:22.040 --> 0:20:26.040 out of meeting the players Association had discussing all this, 0:20:26.240 --> 0:20:29.720 and then within less than forty eight hours, he was 0:20:29.880 --> 0:20:33.080 back out and on the court. So he had quite 0:20:33.160 --> 0:20:36.080 the change of mindset there, Leo, in the span of 0:20:36.080 --> 0:20:39.680 about forty eight hours. Recently, Let's be very clear, Lebron 0:20:39.800 --> 0:20:42.480 is only interested in one thing. Lebron. He has a 0:20:42.560 --> 0:20:46.120 brand that the forty hour antics where he thought about 0:20:46.160 --> 0:20:48.359 walking out and then he comes back to the play 0:20:48.720 --> 0:20:51.359 and then you know, he he does his uh, his 0:20:51.600 --> 0:20:55.320 uh ritual. He pays onmits to a Chadwick Bosman, who 0:20:55.560 --> 0:20:57.720 great actor who just passed away, and this guy is 0:20:57.760 --> 0:21:01.320 only about himself. So everything is collated to focus the 0:21:01.400 --> 0:21:05.000 attention on Lebron, and that's what he does. I don't 0:21:05.000 --> 0:21:07.760 have any problem with that. But you're not gonna trick me. 0:21:08.119 --> 0:21:10.800 You're not gonna fool me to think that, oh, you're 0:21:10.840 --> 0:21:13.720 going to walk out of the NBA playoffs because you're 0:21:13.760 --> 0:21:16.240 upset with the racial injustice in this country. Don't don't 0:21:16.280 --> 0:21:17.800 sell that to me, because I don't believe it. That's 0:21:17.800 --> 0:21:21.320 why I thought the initial boycott's misguided. So when when 0:21:21.359 --> 0:21:24.360 the media is watching Lebron gives these interviews and were 0:21:24.520 --> 0:21:28.200 these T shirts referring to racial injustice and talking about 0:21:28.480 --> 0:21:32.320 Rihanna Taylor, that doesn't beesn't sway me at all. That's 0:21:32.320 --> 0:21:36.879 a guy who is marketing himself. He's branding himself. He 0:21:37.119 --> 0:21:39.600 is the best basketball player in the world, so we 0:21:39.680 --> 0:21:41.119 get that, and so there could be a lot of 0:21:41.200 --> 0:21:43.760 media attention. He has a high classform, so he uses 0:21:43.840 --> 0:21:47.760 it for his own purpose and he has yes people 0:21:47.840 --> 0:21:50.320 around him saying, hey, you can do this, you this 0:21:50.400 --> 0:21:52.520 will help even more, This won't be even more you think, 0:21:53.080 --> 0:21:58.280 honestly believe Lebron James is really concerned about systemic discrimination 0:21:58.560 --> 0:22:01.920 racial injustice. Now, it's easy to put on a T 0:22:02.119 --> 0:22:05.560 shirt and say I'm concerned about the racial injustice. It's 0:22:05.600 --> 0:22:08.359 easy to have a two or three minute interview after 0:22:08.440 --> 0:22:10.600 the game and say I'm really concerned, and you go 0:22:10.720 --> 0:22:17.720 back into your well guarded, private security, multi million dollar manship. 0:22:17.800 --> 0:22:22.399 As a joke, Leo, Leo, what about Major League Baseball? 0:22:22.440 --> 0:22:24.520 Because Ben and I were talking about this over the 0:22:24.960 --> 0:22:28.119 last couple of days. You know, the Dodgers and Mookie 0:22:28.160 --> 0:22:30.440 Betts had taken a stance or they're taking a knee. 0:22:30.920 --> 0:22:33.720 San Diego Padres the same thing. They had a series 0:22:33.760 --> 0:22:36.520 matchup with the Mariners, and both teams had games that 0:22:36.600 --> 0:22:39.720 were they're postponed and and made up the following day. 0:22:39.880 --> 0:22:42.879 But you know, in particular the Dodgers. You know, we 0:22:43.000 --> 0:22:45.560 all know this, but the Dodgers are really engaged in 0:22:45.600 --> 0:22:48.520 the community. It's not like it's just a uh, some 0:22:48.720 --> 0:22:51.199 dogg and pony show. You have guys that are are 0:22:51.280 --> 0:22:53.960 members of the community that give back, you know, Clayton 0:22:54.040 --> 0:22:58.600 Kershaw and Justin Turner, Kenley Jansen, the guys of that nature. 0:22:59.200 --> 0:23:00.920 So it's not like they just talk to talk, but 0:23:01.000 --> 0:23:04.000 they do walk the walk. But you know, there is 0:23:04.080 --> 0:23:06.000 that line when you have a shortened season like this. 0:23:06.240 --> 0:23:11.040 So it's drastically different with Major League Baseball than the NBA. 0:23:11.240 --> 0:23:14.200 But like, is there a point where Major League Baseball 0:23:14.240 --> 0:23:17.159