1 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:10,239 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Savor production of I Heart Radio 2 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:12,799 Speaker 1: and STEFF Media. I'm Anni Rees and I'm Lauren Vogelbaum. 3 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: And today we're talking about cinnamon rolls. Yes, a is 4 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: it a dessert, a pastry A pastry? Sure, it's a 5 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:24,959 Speaker 1: it can be it can be eaten with many meals. 6 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: That's true. We're going to talk about that, but also 7 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: goes by many names, and also we'll talk about that. 8 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 1: It's one of the reasons we are doing this episode. 9 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 1: I haven't had a cinnamon roll I can't remember when forever. 10 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, despite my love of cinnamon. Uh, most 11 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: of my experience with cinnon rolls or cinnamon bonds in 12 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 1: this world cinnamon, snail, cinnamon whatever, cross rolls is with 13 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: the ones that come out of the can explosively, so frighteningly. 14 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: We've agreed upon that um that in my family resulted 15 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: in disagreements about when and have to put the icing 16 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:05,320 Speaker 1: on how much icing. I'm a less is more when 17 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: it concising I'm actually a nun is better type of person, 18 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: but everyone else in my family is a more is 19 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: more type of person. So I was usually outmoded and 20 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 1: or forgot about. Yeah. So I kind of stopped eating them. Um. 21 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: But despite coming out of can they were a special 22 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:25,479 Speaker 1: occasion type food. Absolutely, I can see that. Yeah, it's 23 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: like it's like it's a well it's it's a it's 24 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 1: a pastry. If you're serving it for breakfast, then it's 25 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: like you better have a reason. Yeah, that reason wonderful. Yeah, 26 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: they do smell wonderful. That reason can be like it's 27 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: a Tuesday. But this is how I get myself into 28 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 1: troubles because I can find a reason for everything. Good day, 29 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: bad day, whatever. Um. I've never eating that a cinea bun. 30 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: I had one bite once. What Wow, how have you 31 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: avoided it? I don't know. I've long admired the smell again. Yes, 32 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: it's a good smell. Yes. Um. I recently was on 33 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: a road trip and I forgot that. Um. Holiday and 34 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 1: Express is known for they have I think they have 35 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 1: a deal with Cinnabon, so they have roles in their 36 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: in their properties and on their signs. They prominently featured 37 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: along the billboards on the highway. I was like, oh, 38 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: it's like, come in sleep here. I suppose mostly free cinnabon. 39 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 1: It would work on me. I gotta say, I'm not 40 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: about that. Uh yeah, I um gosh, my my grandmother, 41 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: my my grandmother, Grandma Lou made cinnamon rolls with with 42 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: a maple glaze and and chopped walnuts and them when 43 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: I was a kid growing up, and so for me 44 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 1: that's a just hugely nostalgic and and beautiful experience. Um. 45 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 1: She she made them individually, not um not not crammed 46 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 1: in a pan together. So they're a little bit a 47 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: little bit wider and flatter than the kind of like 48 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 1: rise up, sort of sort of cinnamon rolls that I've 49 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: seen in other places. But yeah, having grown up with those, 50 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: I'm incredible snob about the packaged, the canned explosive ones 51 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: and how they're not real cinnamon rolls and those are 52 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: closer to biscuit dough and I don't approve because they 53 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: should be geasty and delicious. Oh but you know, but 54 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: but everyone everyone likes what they like, and I'm excited 55 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: whenever anyone is eating anything basically. So, so, perhaps I've 56 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: never had a cinnamon roll in your estimation, perhaps not. 57 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: You have had that one bite of a cinnamon which 58 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: I would qualify as a cinnamon roll. Yeah, I don't 59 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: remember it. That's not an impression on me. I was 60 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: very tired. I was in the airport, of course, you know, 61 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: travel brain wasn't computing, No, not at all. You can 62 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: also see our cinnamon episode if you want to learn 63 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: more about that, because we had a lot to say 64 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: about cinnamon. Oh my gosh, yes, uh that that that's 65 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: called cinnamon, the tastiest of tree barks. It's from September 66 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:08,839 Speaker 1: of seventeen, so long ago. I didn't realize anyway, we've 67 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: been doing this essentially forever. Yes, that's what it means. 68 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 1: An that was forever literally ago. But all of this 69 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 1: brings us to our question. Cinnamon rolls. What are they? Well, 70 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 1: a cinnamon roll or whatever you want to call it 71 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 1: can be a number of things, but they are essentially 72 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: baked goods consisting of a leaven sweet dough spiraled together 73 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: with a cinnamon, sugar, butter filling into a round that's 74 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: um that's flat but has some height, uh shallow cylinder. 75 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: You might say. They can be more or less sweet 76 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: with dough that's a biscuit, flaky or brioche soft, with 77 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 1: extra fillings like chopped nuts or dried fruit, toppings like 78 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 1: granulated sugar or icing that's that's gooey or stiff or plain, 79 00:04:55,760 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: or flavored with things like a maple coffee, honey, vanilla cream, ease, uh, citrus, 80 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: other fruit door jam like stuff like apple cider or apricot. 81 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 1: The dough itself can be flavored with spices, but whatever 82 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 1: it is, the result is a warming, rich, comforting pastry 83 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 1: that can be eaten for breakfast, as a snack, or 84 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: as a dessert. Room temperature heated, um and and yeah, 85 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: heated as best because then the filling gets all melty 86 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: and the dough just pulls apart. Having her craving for 87 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: something I might not have ever had that does sound 88 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: really good. I was like, I almost went to one 89 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: of the bakeries downstairs while I was doing this outline, 90 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: but I was like, I don't need to eat sugar 91 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: at the top of the podcast, because I will be 92 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: unbearable by the end of the episode. It could be 93 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: an interesting experiment. We haven't done one of those in 94 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: a while. Now that's true, Well, we'll mix it up soon. 95 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: I'll mix it up soon because there are so many 96 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: types of cinnamon rolls. I'm going to forego here a 97 00:05:56,400 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: detailed explanation of yeastbreads in the science way. That's gonna 98 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: be for another day, another episode, another topic. But but basically, um, 99 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: when you get a dough that's that's tender and puffs 100 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,559 Speaker 1: up a lot in the oven, you've harnessed a number 101 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 1: of ingredients to gently create air pockets. UM yeast, which 102 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 1: are of course microorganisms that excrete carbon dioxide, yeast poop, eggs, 103 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: and flour which have these matrices or form these matrices 104 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: of proteins that are structured but stretchy. And then um, 105 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: butter and milk, which provide hydration and lubrication of those 106 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: proteins and also act as place holders for air pockets 107 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:40,359 Speaker 1: as their water content moves elsewhere. M yeah. Um. A 108 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: number of recipes I've seen for cinnamon rolls call for 109 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: extra starch from potatoes. Um, either actual mashed potatoes in 110 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:53,359 Speaker 1: the dough or water from a boiled potato might be added. 111 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 1: I love this, uh, mash potatoes and cinnamon roll, right, 112 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: I have ever heard of this? It won the the 113 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: Iowas State Fair competition, I believe in. I don't have 114 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: that written down, but this, Yeah, I think that's that's 115 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: what I saw it. Yeah, yeah, I really need to 116 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: look into this as much as I just like making 117 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: eeast does um yeah uh um. Lots of gooey and 118 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: or sticky versions are baked with the topping in the 119 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: bottom of the pan and then served inverted like I 120 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:30,119 Speaker 1: like an upside down cake. Huh okay. And I wonder 121 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: if you would like that sort of thing better than 122 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: the icing situation. I think I would. Yeah, I think 123 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: kind of carmelizes. It's good. Yeah. Nutrition, I went from 124 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: like wait very quickly, just dropped like a tower of um. Yeah. 125 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: Nutrition can depend. I mean, you know, like the dose 126 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: used to make these things are usually heavy on the 127 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: butter and eggs and milk. American styles tend to have 128 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: a lot of sugar involved in the dough and the 129 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: filling in the icing. Um. And sometimes they are served 130 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: in just huge portions. Uh. So you know, they can 131 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: really sneak up on you. They are a treat. Um, 132 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: watch your portion sizes. Share with a friend. Yeah, sharing 133 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: is carrying. Sharing is carrying exactly. You can find many 134 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: many articles about the nutrition of cinnamon or perhaps like 135 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 1: thereof it is a treat, but I think it's like 136 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:35,839 Speaker 1: eight hundred for the basic one. The basic one is 137 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: about eight hundred calories, which which is a whole meal 138 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: at least and will not provide you It's not going 139 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: to keep you going because it's got very little protein 140 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 1: and a lot of sugar. So it's gonna make you crash. 141 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: It's gonna make you spike and then crash and yeah, yeah, 142 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: just like the Tower of Tear exactly exactly. But speaking 143 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: of Cinnabon, we do have some numbers and some of 144 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: them are to bun related. Uh, Cinnabon's busiest time of year, 145 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: which is the week of Thanksgiving Friday. Okay, people in 146 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: the malls you know, um, Cinnabon sells an average of 147 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: eight thousand three cinnamon rolls an hour. What an hour 148 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 1: exects call this time of the year jolly bond. Yeah. 149 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: As of s they sold a billion cinnamon rolls. Okay. 150 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 1: There are so many variations of cinnamon buns slash, rolls, 151 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:36,319 Speaker 1: slash all the names you want to put in there 152 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: around the world and Finland. They can be massive, up 153 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: to eight inches in diameter are about twenty centimeters. A 154 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:48,239 Speaker 1: name for them there is apparently qa busti, which apparently 155 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: translates to something like a slapped ear right like you're 156 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 1: getting your ear poled or something like you're in trouble, yeah, 157 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: I guess, or like I'm picturing like the Princess Leiah, 158 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: like the thing. Yeah. In Denmark they're sometimes called cannelis 159 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: nigel um or cinnamon snails. Germany similarly has a steck 160 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: in um literally snails. And this is literally why I 161 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: wanted to do this episode. I was like, well, that 162 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: is darling and I want to know more about this. 163 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: There isn't really more about it. It's just their shaped 164 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: sort of like snail shells. That's it. But I was 165 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: just like, this is the best here we are episode. 166 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 1: Yes um. Also in Danish they're sometimes called us scalings, 167 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:36,719 Speaker 1: bowler um or schilling buns, which I guess is a 168 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 1: term also used in Norway. Here in the US, we 169 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: have the coffee scroll in the north, which is finished 170 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: with a coffee flavored glaze, and the honey bun in 171 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 1: the south. Um. These fried East pastries topped with a 172 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: cinnamon swirl and honey are most likely found in mending machines. 173 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,559 Speaker 1: There's also the Philly style sticky bun with raisins and 174 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: nuts in the filling and a caramelized gooey tapping um 175 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: scot by the way, has an exhaustive list of bakeries 176 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: around Philadelphia that served them, and I got so hungry 177 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:12,439 Speaker 1: reading about them. Ah man, so many themed field trips 178 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: we could have. Yes, yes, I've already got a donut 179 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: trail on a cookie trail. Its time to add cinnamon 180 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 1: bun variety trail. Yeah, okay, all right, and this brings 181 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: me me I think you too, well. This is my 182 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: favorite fact of the episode. I've never heard of this. Apparently, 183 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: in some states in the Midwest, a cinnamon roll is 184 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 1: often served as a side to chili to chili. Yeah, yeah, okay, 185 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: please please please right in. Yes. Sources indicate that this 186 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: combo was a school lunch option for Midwestern states going 187 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 1: all the way back to the nineties sixties. They were 188 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: and are common foods found at fundraiser and then in 189 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:04,199 Speaker 1: two thousand and seven, Nebraska's food chain runs A introduced 190 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: a chili and cinnamon roll combo item on their menus. 191 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: There's even a commercial for it. This must be a 192 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: real thing. I love it. Yeah, I know, um, and 193 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: it's enjoyed in all kinds of ways. In case you're wondering, U, 194 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: the cinnamon roll might be saved for last. Or you 195 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: might alternate bites between the two foods. Or you might 196 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: eat the top half of the cinnamon roll and then 197 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: dunk the other half into the chili. So there are options. 198 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: I have never heard of this before this episode, but 199 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 1: I love it and uh, and cinnamon is one of 200 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 1: my like secret ingredients not so secret ingredients in chili, 201 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: so I can totally see this. Um. There is also 202 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 1: a tiny bit of an internet spat about where the 203 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: practice originated Nebraska, Kansas, elsewhere what which I also love UM. 204 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 1: From a brief search, it looks like maybe it's spread 205 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: with UM German Mennonites. Again, You're all right in please 206 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: please write in. Uh. Some enterprising humans have made cinnamon buns, 207 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: the bread component of breakfast sandwiches. Does not surprise me, 208 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 1: not at all. Sweden has a national holiday called Cana 209 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: Dog Cinnamon Bun Day thanks to the efforts of the 210 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: Swedish Home Baking Council going back to October four. They 211 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 1: were celebrating the council's forty anniversary on that date. I 212 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: wanted to find a way to celebrate Swedish and other 213 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 1: Nordic traditions for cinnamon buns. Make them a little less sweet, 214 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,199 Speaker 1: with a little carnman in the dough and without icing 215 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: on top. They opt for a sprinkle of granulated sugar instead. 216 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:40,719 Speaker 1: But that's not the only pastry they're big on. They 217 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: also observe a tradition called fica where you sit down 218 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: with coffee and pastries and friends. Um as of the 219 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 1: average Swede apparently consumed um the cake and pastry equivalent 220 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 1: of three hundred and sixteen cinnamon rolls per year. What 221 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 1: which is almost a hundred and forty nine million kilos 222 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 1: of cakes and pastries, Which is about three and twenty 223 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: eight million pounds which um as Sweden dot s E, 224 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: the official site of Sweden helpfully points out, is about 225 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: three fifty thousand moose. Moose are big. They are three 226 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 1: fifty thousand moose. Oh no, I don't know how many. 227 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: That's a lot of most that's too. At least it's 228 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: got a sequel. But yes, this not the moose thing, 229 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: but the cinnamon roll thing and the the Connell Bullen's 230 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: dog is why I kea has cinnamon rolls big thing? 231 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Okay. Here in the States we have a 232 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: National Sticky Bun Day on February one, and out in 233 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: out in a town in California, there's an annual Fourth 234 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: of July cinnamon roll eating competition at a bakery called 235 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: Paul's Pantry. Whoever eats the most cinnamon rolls in twelve 236 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: minutes winds, no dipping or dunking allowed, and uh in 237 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: and eating professional Molly Schuler. Sure y'all know what I'm 238 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: talking about. She she entered and set the record at 239 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: nineteen cinnamon rolls in twelve minutes. And these are not 240 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: small cinnamon rolls. These are the big thing. That's nineteen 241 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: more than I've had this year, let alone in twelve minutes, 242 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: let alone and twelve dang minutes. Well, that's impressive. It is. 243 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: We do have some impressive bits of history to share 244 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: with you. We do, we do. But first we've got 245 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 1: a quick break for a word from our sponsor. We're back. 246 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: Thank you, sponsor, Yes, thank you. And some history here. 247 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 1: There's a lot of there's a lot of conflicting history 248 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: in this one, even more so. I mean that's like 249 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: every episode, but this one in particular. So we're gonna 250 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: see what we can do to pull some of these 251 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: elements together. Right Uh. I will say it seems that 252 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: cinnamon rolls are fairly recent compared to a lot of 253 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: stuff we talked about anyway. Recent can be very subjective, 254 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: but cinnamon has been around for much longer. Again, our 255 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: episode exists for those who want to know more. Um. 256 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 1: In the early days, it was certainly more of an 257 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: incense and embalming spice more than something you'd eat. Um, 258 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: And it was super expensive everywhere except for what's now 259 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: Tri Lanka, where it mostly originated. Right. Um. Some bakers 260 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: along trade routes in the Middle East, though, might have 261 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: been making sweet cinnamon flavored baked goods, even sweet East breads, 262 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: going back to ancient times, right because ez breads have 263 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: also been around a long time. Yeah, they developed in 264 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: Tande with like beer brewing about five thousand years ago, 265 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: so they've been there for a minute. Records out of 266 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: Egypt and Rome indicate that the people there enjoyed roles 267 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 1: topped with dates, raisins and honey millennia before these uc 268 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,919 Speaker 1: breads came together with cinnamon in Europe to make the 269 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:09,400 Speaker 1: delicious cinnamon bread in the seventeenth century. That was sort 270 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:14,719 Speaker 1: of one of the original people in Europe, certainly, and 271 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:17,360 Speaker 1: that's that's where it happened in the seventeenth century when 272 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 1: it happened rather um a. Cinnamon's high price point and 273 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 1: historical scarcity had kept it primarily in the realm of 274 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: the rich in Europe prior to that um. Instead, in 275 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: earlier times, Europeans would sometimes use black pepper to add 276 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 1: a kick to sweet maked goods um which was still 277 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 1: expensive but like a little bit less so um and yeah, 278 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 1: like cinnamon along with a couple other food stuff So 279 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: these other spices and sugar um that Europeans were introduced 280 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:47,439 Speaker 1: to via the Silk Road like pretty much kickstarted the 281 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: waves of exploration and colonization that shaped the modern world 282 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: as we know it. Yeah, I'm not saying it's just 283 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: cinnamon rolls, not just cinnamon rolls, but they were involved. 284 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:02,880 Speaker 1: They were certainly involved. Yeah. Once the Dutch took over 285 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,159 Speaker 1: Sri Lanka and the price of cinnamon went down and 286 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 1: it became more readily available in Europe, bakers began adding 287 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 1: it to their fritters for just they were making at 288 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:13,719 Speaker 1: the time. The practice quickly spread throughout the rest of Europe, 289 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 1: where this proto cinemon roll they were commonly enjoyed for breakfast. 290 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,160 Speaker 1: The English created a vision. They dubbed the Chelsea bun 291 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 1: around this time, and they filled that with dried fruit, 292 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: and I think it's still eaten today. I read conflicting 293 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 1: things about that it's still eating today, but I read 294 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: conflicting things about how well known and popular it is, 295 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:35,400 Speaker 1: Like okay, so right in about that as well, yeah, yeah, 296 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: And if you want more about about fried East does, 297 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 1: you can see our jelly donut episode. Yeah. Um. Meanwhile, meanwhile, 298 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 1: when German and Swedish immigrants arrived to North America in 299 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 1: the sixteen and seventeen hundreds, they introduced the continent to 300 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 1: their cinnamon rolls. German immigrants who settled around Philadelphia modified 301 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: their recipe based on what they were able to find 302 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: in their new home or what was like, you know, 303 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 1: not too pricey, and they added the raisins, brown sugar, 304 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: and honey. And they might have been like a bakery 305 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:11,679 Speaker 1: only treat for a long time because of the of 306 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: the physical time expense of creating this this yeast dough 307 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 1: which had to be punched down two or three times. 308 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 1: It takes like fifteen hours to make these things. Um, 309 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 1: a lot of that's downtime, but you know, yeah, um. 310 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: And then also the cost of some of these ingredients, 311 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: especially cinnamon right compressed yeast, and the eighteen hundreds made 312 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: producing porous cinnamon rolls simpler. Yeah, you can listen to 313 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 1: more about that in our Nutritional Yeast Rising to the 314 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:42,199 Speaker 1: occasion episode for like a January of this is like 315 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 1: a multiverous episode. It is like touching on all kinds 316 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: of things, trying it all in. Um. Okay. Then in 317 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: the late eighteen hundreds in America we get another iconic 318 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: yeast role that we need to talk about, the Parker 319 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 1: House role. These are British style slightly sweet, milky soft 320 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 1: dinner rolls that are baked together in a clump in 321 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 1: a single pan. Um. And they gained fame at the 322 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 1: Parker House Hotel restaurant in Boston in the eighteen seventies 323 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: thanks to recipes printed in lots of magazines and cookbooks. Um. 324 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: And thanks to baking pans kind of becoming a thing 325 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 1: around that time. Previously, a lot of breads would have 326 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 1: been made free form in the oven, but yeah, baking 327 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:24,400 Speaker 1: pants wild um. And these roles were great for restaurants 328 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:28,199 Speaker 1: because yeah, this recipe incorporated these three yeast rises. In 329 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: twelve to fifteen hours of downtime, so you could really 330 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: stilt your start times to keep fresh bread going into 331 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: and coming out of the oven um throughout a long 332 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: day of service. Um. But for home bakers this meant that, 333 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 1: you know, they would usually be ready to go in 334 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 1: the oven like in the earliest hours of the morning 335 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: after having risen overnight. Less convenient for making dinner rolls. 336 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: But recipe writers in the eighties started adding side notes 337 00:20:56,320 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 1: about using the same dough to make cinnamon rolls perfect 338 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: for breakfast. Um. May parent Goff's cookbook The Household may 339 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: have been the first to suggest this cover they call 340 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 1: kinds of that stuff for granted nowadays, I know, um, 341 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 1: the more modern take on our cinnamon roll or the 342 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: cinnamon snail. Um, maybe came out of nineteen twenties Sweden. 343 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: That's what the Swedes claim. I feel like they just 344 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: put the flag. Yeah, yeah, we did this. Um. This 345 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: was after the end of World War One. Rations and 346 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 1: makers once again had access to things like butter and sugar. Yeah, um, 347 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 1: I mean okay, like recipes for for sticky bones and um. 348 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: Schnecken started popping up in American published cookbooks around nineteen 349 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 1: o nine and started picking up steam in the nineteen teens, 350 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: so maybe it was a zeitgeist. It was because I 351 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 1: saw that date in more places than just Swedish sources, 352 00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 1: But I don't know if they were just getting the 353 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 1: information from redistorces. Yeah. I mean that also would have 354 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: been when ovens in the home would have been more popularized. Yeah, 355 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: commercial ovens, so yeah. But anyway, in Sweden, most of 356 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: these cinnamon snails were professionally done until the nineteen fifties, 357 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:20,360 Speaker 1: when ingredients became cheaper and home ovens more efficient, and 358 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: as the prices of cinnamon and cardamom dropped, and as 359 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:28,400 Speaker 1: Sweden experienced a rise in home baking and like housewife 360 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,399 Speaker 1: home cooking culture trends sort of parallel to what was 361 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 1: going on in the United States in the nineteen fifties. 362 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 1: Rights and then the Pillsbury Company debut they refrigerated can 363 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 1: cinnamon rolls in x also around the nineteen fifties, and 364 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 1: probably due in part to this mass market release of 365 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 1: refrigerated biscuit and cinnamon bundo um, recipes for monkey bread, 366 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 1: then often called bubble bread started making the rounds um 367 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: in the nineteen eighties. Dancy Reagan famously served at every 368 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 1: Christmas in the White House. And uh, this brings us 369 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: to a secondary question. Well, I actually don't know the 370 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: answer to so this is really excited. Okay, monkey bread, 371 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 1: what is it? Well, monkey bread can be sweet or savory, 372 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: but um, it's often a recipe very close to stickier 373 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: versions of cinnamon rolls, but not rolled. But no, the 374 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 1: dough is formed into small balls and then baked together 375 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,360 Speaker 1: in a cake pans that it forms a mass that's 376 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: easily pulled apart. Oh yeah, um, like a monkey. Yeah yeah, okay, yeah, 377 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: I'm not sure. There's no consensus on where the name 378 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: comes from. There were references to um that there was 379 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 1: this one article that was trying to I guess like 380 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 1: humanize and an actress of the nineties as Zazoo Pits 381 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 1: and she yes, included this recipe for monkey bread, and 382 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: I think that that's where in the literature that name 383 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:10,160 Speaker 1: first appeared. But no consensus, histories, mysteries. Yeah, but anyway, um, yeah, 384 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,199 Speaker 1: so so this this is also an interesting thing that 385 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:17,640 Speaker 1: seems to have developed separately but parallel to cinnamon rolls, 386 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: because Hungarian Jewish bakers had been making a similar dessert 387 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,880 Speaker 1: or like sometimes specified as a coffee cake. Um, since 388 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:28,919 Speaker 1: at least the eighteen eighties, and that one's called Rannie Galuska. 389 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 1: I didn't look that one up, but we're going with 390 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 1: a pronunciation yeah um that translates to golden dumplings. Um. 391 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 1: And I don't think it traditionally involved cinnamon, but yeah, 392 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: it's a like big, like pull apart bread that's often 393 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: got like a sticky, sticky kind of sweet filling to it. Yeah. Um. 394 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,199 Speaker 1: Cinnamon as a flavoring in these pull apart breads and 395 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 1: or coffee cakes may have only caught on in force 396 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: during the eighties and nineties, during this huge cultural moment 397 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:04,640 Speaker 1: that cinnamon rolls had Oh yes because that brings us too, 398 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 1: and the first cinnamon which opened in them all near 399 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: Seattle that very year. UM at first only offering the 400 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:19,639 Speaker 1: classic cinnamon roll after have failed franchise deal with something 401 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: called t J. Cinnamons a father and son team I 402 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: also saw a father, not a father, a brother and 403 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: brother team. But we're gonna go with a father and 404 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,719 Speaker 1: son team experiment for months to arrive at the quote 405 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:34,640 Speaker 1: world's best cinnamon roll while also meeting the requirements of 406 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: baking the oven of fourteen minutes or less, a time 407 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 1: of fourteen minutes or less, and the taste justifying the 408 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 1: one another. And costs. Oh how times have Jade have. Indeed, 409 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 1: this team even traveled to Indonesia in search of the 410 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 1: ideal cinnamon for their recipe, a very strong variety that 411 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: they made into a proprietary blend called Makara, which you 412 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 1: can buy in their stores. I believe it's stronger and 413 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 1: less sweet than a lot of other cinnamons that you 414 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: can buy. And it's behind that lovely aroma that we 415 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 1: kept talking about that we've already mentioned. Yeah yeah, yeah, 416 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 1: Like you walk into a mall and you're just like, 417 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: where is the cinnamon bun? Yes, I must find it. 418 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 1: Contrary to popular belief, the smell is not piped in, 419 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: but by opening and um small open spaces like malls 420 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 1: and airports and placing the ovens at the front and 421 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,439 Speaker 1: also using the I think like the what is it 422 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,639 Speaker 1: the smallest hood they can get away with legally or 423 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: something based all kinds of rules basically like venting the 424 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: air like out to the public rather than yeah right um. 425 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: And they put the ovens in the front of the 426 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 1: store to your the front. Uh. And by doing all 427 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 1: of these things, the stores make sure the aroma reaches 428 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 1: the most passerby as possible in these highly trafficked areas. 429 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 1: According to the CEO, stores where the ovens were placed 430 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: in the back instead of the front experienced a decrease 431 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 1: in sale. I believe it. I do too. Some buildings 432 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 1: do have aroma restrictions which I've actually limited where Cinnabon 433 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:13,199 Speaker 1: can open. Oh my gosh, I've more restrictions. UM. If 434 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 1: you're wondering why the name isn't Cinnabun with a you, 435 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 1: that is a twofold reasons. They wanted to avoid the 436 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 1: savory connotation of the dinner bun and instead go with 437 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: a sweet bond bond like candy um and at the 438 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 1: same time utilizing the French word for good ball. Yeah 439 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,640 Speaker 1: they were thinking, oh yeah, yeah. Lots of thoughts were had. 440 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,400 Speaker 1: Cinnabon was the first franchise to open in Libyan two 441 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 1: thousand eleven, and today there are over one thousand, two 442 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 1: hundred franchise shops in over fifty countries. The Cinnabon Corporation 443 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: only owns one store. The rest are all franchises. Whoa um, 444 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: and that's not the only thing that they have franchised out. Nope, 445 00:27:56,080 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 1: there's Cinnabon vodka. So many licensed prod x and not 446 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 1: just Cinni swag which you can purchase on their online 447 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 1: website as opposed to other types of websites. Yeah. Um 448 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 1: t shirts with like like what is it? Like my 449 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 1: my head says the gym, but my heart says cinnamon. 450 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 1: Stuff like that, the classics. Oh yeah yeah yeah. Other 451 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 1: than that, Yeah, you can get all kinds of cinnamon 452 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 1: branded food items at other restaurants. In grocery stores. There's 453 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: been a lip bomb and air freshener. They hit one 454 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 1: billion dollars in customer product sales and only of that 455 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: was from their stores. What I know what it is? 456 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 1: It is a cinnamon bun m pie. Wow. Um well. 457 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 1: And also in the Breaking Bad spin off, better call 458 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 1: Saul yours got to see Saul good best case scenario 459 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 1: quote managing a Cinnabon in Omaha, the actor who portrayed 460 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 1: saw Bob Odenkirk really did go through the cinnamon training 461 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 1: and learned to make the roles. They like teamed up Cinnabon, 462 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 1: like teamed up with AMC to make all of this happen. 463 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 1: There was like a lot of like media marketing stuff involved. 464 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: I When I read that, I like literally tried to 465 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 1: heart react that bullet point. I just found it very 466 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 1: very dear. Yes, it was on a list of some 467 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 1: of the most bizarre product placement deals. Hey um vo 468 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: Jack Horsemen's newest season also featured a reference to an 469 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 1: a sexual employee working at an airport. Cinnamon and something 470 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: else I watched recently had cinnabon in it, and I 471 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 1: was like, Wow, maybe cinnamon is more around than I've 472 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 1: ever realized. Maybe maybe, but not for long. No, no, no. 473 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: This is another interesting point in the European Union proposed 474 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 1: new regulations to limit the amount of cinnamon used in 475 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 1: cinnamon rolls due to health concerns around a natural substance 476 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 1: that occurs in common cinnamon called kumarin. Consumed at a 477 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 1: high enough rate, kumarin causes, for the most part, reversible 478 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 1: liver problems in some people. Earlier e regulations from two 479 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 1: thousand and eight set limitations on how much kumarin a 480 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 1: product could contain, generally five and fifty milligrams per kilo 481 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 1: of food somewhere between there, with special considerations towards holiday items. 482 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 1: But when the Danish Food Administration conducted a recent survey. 483 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: They found fifty percent of the baked goods category weren't 484 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 1: sticking to the rules. Um. They specifically called out Danish 485 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 1: cinnamon swirls. Oh my gosh, that's right. Okay. These new 486 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 1: stipulations would limit seasonal pastries to fifty milligrams of cinnamon 487 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 1: or less per kilogram of dough, and regular breakfast pastries 488 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 1: to fifteen milligrams per kilogram of dough. As you can imagine, 489 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 1: not popular with Danish Baker's Association. Shin their leader commented, 490 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 1: it's the end of the cinnamon rule as we know it. 491 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 1: They're coming for your cinnamon seals. That's that's my Annie 492 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 1: added that way, Yeah, if you're curious, we don't have 493 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 1: any rules limiting kumar and inter food products in the 494 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 1: US and have ill effects from the substance. The average 495 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 1: adult would have to ingest a teaspoon a day if 496 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 1: you think about baking. That's what most recipes call for 497 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 1: an entire pie or a whole batch of cookies. However, 498 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 1: for Toddler's a quarter of a teaspoon a day could 499 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 1: be damaging, which is much easier threshold. Sure, sure, um, 500 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: but I mean yeah, like for an adult, Like you 501 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 1: don't need to be that worried for an adult. It's 502 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 1: like ten plus cinnamon rolls in a day, like probably 503 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 1: multiple days in a row, like the course of time 504 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: to build this this this level up if it is 505 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 1: something that you're worried about. Ceylon cinnamon are true cinnamon 506 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 1: as it is sometimes called as far less camarin compared 507 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 1: to Cassia cinnamon, which is this typing question here more 508 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 1: expand of them. Yeah, there's also been some movement in 509 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 1: Sweden to cut back on all that aforementioned pastry, like 510 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 1: calling for a switch out of fruit or nuts for 511 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 1: cinnamon rolls during VIKA breaks. Oh, I mean probably healthier, 512 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 1: but it seems so much better with the pastry, right 513 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 1: it does with your coffee. Yeah, I was so jealous 514 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 1: that this is a thing when I read about it. 515 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 1: Oh man, like every day though, and like you're really 516 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: supposed to like socially, that's right. You don't want to 517 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 1: be an outcastle. Don't you gotta eat? You gotta eat 518 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: your cinnamon snail and drink your coffee. Where are we 519 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 1: to diverge from that path? That's social norma wha, Well, 520 00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 1: keep an eye out for any uh progress update developments 521 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 1: on this story. We oh gosh, we absolutely will. Um. 522 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 1: I don't think it's really caught on. Yeah, but um 523 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 1: for perhaps obvious reasons. But yeah, that's that's basically what 524 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 1: we were able to dig up about cinnamon rolls. We 525 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 1: do have a little bit more for you, but at 526 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 1: first we've got one more quick break for a word 527 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 1: from our sponsor, and we're back. Thank you, sponsor, Yes, 528 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 1: thank you, and we're back with man. Yeah, that went 529 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 1: more successfully than I thought I was gonna go. It's 530 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 1: very rare that I can say that about those, So 531 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 1: kudos Lauren Udo. I'm learning. No one could fall you 532 00:33:56,440 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 1: for understanding my very random hand gesture. Not a person. 533 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 1: Peter wrote, thanks so much for all the information and 534 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,800 Speaker 1: laughs and podcastl you. After hearing your stories about farmers 535 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 1: treating their produced gently in order to preserve its world 536 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 1: record status, I thought I just had to recommend to 537 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 1: you the Wallason Gramment movie The Curse of the wear Rabbit, 538 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 1: in which Wallaston Grammt. Are heavily invested in the security 539 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 1: and welfare of fruit and veg. The Vicor security system 540 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,839 Speaker 1: especially never fails to give me a laugh. My other 541 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 1: item is that you may want to look up the 542 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,399 Speaker 1: definition of collie wobbles as used in British slang. If 543 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: you don't know about it already, it might give new 544 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:40,439 Speaker 1: meaning to the item you mentioned. Luckily I have looked 545 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 1: that up because in the fifth Harry Potter book, Order 546 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:48,400 Speaker 1: of the Phoenix, that is Arthur's nickname for Molly Weasley. 547 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 1: And I was very cur that's a little bit gosh okay, 548 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 1: well well indeed right well spicies. I mean, I guess 549 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 1: you had to have all those little Weasley somehow, that's true. 550 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 1: I don't know that. I want to think about it. 551 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 1: I don't know. Uh okay um, Jeremiah wrote. In my 552 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 1: previous career, I was in the U. S. Coast Guard. 553 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 1: During my twenty years, I spent about nine years on 554 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 1: board ships. Generally speaking, there were often treats served at mealtime, jello, cookies, 555 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 1: et cetera. Ice cream. My favorite dessert was usually served 556 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 1: once a week on Saturday evenings. I always looked forward 557 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 1: to Saturday evenings at sea. During my last tour of duty, 558 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 1: I spent three years aboard the Stratton, which had pretty 559 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 1: good food as far as shipboard dining goes. Also for fun. 560 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 1: Look up Dorothy Stratton sometime. She was an incredible person. 561 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 1: Since I was in my late thirties at the time, 562 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,320 Speaker 1: I was much more careful about my intake of sugar 563 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 1: and limited myself to one dessert a week, ice cream 564 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 1: on Saturdays. One day, after a particularly long and difficult 565 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 1: day at sea, I went to the Messtic and made 566 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 1: myself a beautiful Sunday with vanilla ice cream, or so 567 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 1: I thought. When I took that first bite, it was 568 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 1: a soap flavored mess because it had been lavender ice cream. 569 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 1: I lost my mind because all the other flavors were 570 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 1: gone at that point. I threw the ball in the 571 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,880 Speaker 1: garbage and cursed like only a sailor can. My roommate 572 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:16,759 Speaker 1: at the time was the head cook, and in a 573 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,800 Speaker 1: fit of rage induced by an absence of ice cream, 574 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,360 Speaker 1: I demanded he throw all the lavender ice cream overboard 575 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 1: at once. He did not oblige me, but he also 576 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 1: never procured said flavor again. For the record, nobody on 577 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,839 Speaker 1: the ship liked the lavender ice cream, but apparently I 578 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 1: had the most volatile reaction. Also, I do like lavender flavors, 579 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 1: but that ice cream was just the worst. I think 580 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 1: lavender is something that must be used judiciously. There are 581 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 1: so many food related stories I could tell from my 582 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,239 Speaker 1: time at sea, mostly bad, but I chose this one 583 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,760 Speaker 1: because never before or since had ice cream invoked my wrath. 584 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 1: Ice Cream should never make a person go into hulk mode. True, 585 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:03,839 Speaker 1: only lack of ice cream. Yes, oh that's fair. No 586 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 1: one could blame you. No, no, we would all understand it. 587 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 1: So you just have to say, oh, no ice cream, 588 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,839 Speaker 1: and we'd be like, oh, dude, yeah, let's some ice cream. 589 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 1: Exactly Have they ever tried that in the Avengers? Oh 590 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 1: my gosh, I don't think they have. Well that is 591 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 1: just a fall. They're doing all these like reading of 592 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:26,480 Speaker 1: soft poetry. Dam you need ice cream. I think we 593 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:30,280 Speaker 1: really solved fictional problem. Yeah, yeah, we need to write 594 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:34,920 Speaker 1: to these fictional people. I think. So okay, think so alright, 595 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 1: plan all right. But in the meantime, if you would 596 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:42,880 Speaker 1: like to write to us a nonfictional peoplethetically, oh no, 597 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,480 Speaker 1: don't make me question my reality, Lauren, Oh not today today, 598 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,640 Speaker 1: you can do so. Our email is hello at savor 599 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 1: pod dot com. We're also on social media. You can 600 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,560 Speaker 1: find us on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram at savor pod 601 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,799 Speaker 1: and we do hope to hear from you. Savor is 602 00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,920 Speaker 1: a production of I Heart Radio and Stuff Media. 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