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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys at now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls,
Speaker 1: and Nicky Spagnola. It is one thirty on a Tuesday,
Speaker 1: the first Tuesday of the NFL season. That's right, Bill Jones,
Speaker 1: with Everson Walls and the star of the show, Mick
Speaker 1: Shots himself, Mickey Spagnola. Yes, a round of applause for
Speaker 1: Mickey as we get started on a new season of
Speaker 1: daily shows. And Mickey, how are you doing on this powercast?
Speaker 1: Think everybody should know that wasn't fake applause. Okay, that
Speaker 1: was real applause. And I've got to tell you that
Speaker 1: probably since the last week in March until today is
Speaker 1: the first day I'm not either in shorts or sweatpants.
Speaker 1: I've actually got a real set of pants on right now,
Speaker 1: A real set of pants on. About that that's like
Speaker 1: five and a half months later. Everson, do you have
Speaker 1: a real set of pants on? I don't know that
Speaker 1: warm up pants. Well, I'm in my usual I'm in
Speaker 1: my usual shorts, I've been wearing shorts since March eleven,
Speaker 1: and I'm going to put on big boy pants myself.
Speaker 1: Make you later today as I'm headed to the start
Speaker 1: to take the first episode of the Mike McCarthy Show.
Speaker 1: This is very good, and this is like a new
Speaker 1: official start. That's exactly right. This is the official start,
Speaker 1: you know. And for me, the way I look at it,
Speaker 1: every year or day is basically the end of the summer.
Speaker 1: And so I enjoyed my last day of summer yesterday.
Speaker 1: Even when it's a normal year, when training camps started,
Speaker 1: you know, in late July whatever, it's still Labor Day
Speaker 1: is the end of summer for me. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: not getting into pool anymore. It's football season for sure.
Speaker 1: Cool days over for the summer. I made that decision yesterday.
Speaker 1: I had one long last swim of summer yesterday afternoon.
Speaker 1: So I'm in shaping raring to go here. Well, good Bill,
Speaker 1: you know. One of the security guards here asked me, so,
Speaker 1: do you have a good long weekend? I said, what
Speaker 1: do you mean we worked? What about Labor Day? I said,
Speaker 1: you know, during football season, once training camp starts, the
Speaker 1: last holiday you enjoy is basically fourth of July because
Speaker 1: all the holiday days come after all the way through
Speaker 1: New Year's there's not a holiday that we get off.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. Labor Day. To me, it's not
Speaker 1: a figurative turn all while I played, it was literal
Speaker 1: because coaches tried to kill us on Labor Day. We
Speaker 1: labored much throughout my entire football career. Well, there's so
Speaker 1: much to get to. So much has happened since we
Speaker 1: last convened the last Thursday, as the roster has set
Speaker 1: a sixteen man practice squad as well, and that's ever
Speaker 1: evolving all around the league, making us to kick things off.
Speaker 1: What's your takeaways as this RAMS week has begun. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't think when we saw the final roster after
Speaker 1: they had decided to release Haha, Clinton Dix, that there
Speaker 1: really wasn't any big surprise. When we got to the
Speaker 1: fifty three kind of knew what was coming with the
Speaker 1: guys that they ended up placing on injured reserve. And
Speaker 1: to do that, you know, they ended up cutting a
Speaker 1: couple veteran guys that didn't have to go through waivers
Speaker 1: because to put guys on recall injured reserve, they have
Speaker 1: to be on the fifty three man roster for twenty
Speaker 1: four hours. So that got all taken care of by Monday,
Speaker 1: with c J. Goodwin, Joe Thomas, those guys, and Justin
Speaker 1: March being re signed as they put Lale Collins on
Speaker 1: injured reserve along with Shawn Lee and Ventel Bryan. So
Speaker 1: and I'm not sure they're done with all that just yet,
Speaker 1: because if you look at a couple of the guys
Speaker 1: that made that fifty three man roster, there's probably room
Speaker 1: to make some moves. And because of the way guys
Speaker 1: that they constructed the sixteen band practice squad, with the
Speaker 1: ability to put what is it like a half dozen
Speaker 1: guys with you know, you didn't have to worry about
Speaker 1: a crude seasons, then there could be some more or
Speaker 1: moves when guys come off of that and they put
Speaker 1: him on the basically fifty three man roster or they
Speaker 1: just promoted him for that Sunday on game day. A
Speaker 1: guy like Eric Smith, the offensive tackle that they signed,
Speaker 1: had played with the Giants the previous here, and then
Speaker 1: even Brandon Carr at some point, I think when they
Speaker 1: think he's football ready, he probably gets put on the
Speaker 1: fifty three man roster. Also, I gotta tell you, Bill,
Speaker 1: I had. I made an urgent call to Spagnola right
Speaker 1: after the show last week. I thought we were being
Speaker 1: sabotaged by Spags on his own show. I found out
Speaker 1: about Clinton Dix as soon as we got off the air,
Speaker 1: and I texted Spags and I said, did you know
Speaker 1: of this already? I was all ready to condemn him
Speaker 1: as a saboteur, And it was good to know that
Speaker 1: he had no idea because it was just timing was
Speaker 1: too good. Way it was it was right after we
Speaker 1: got done on Thursday, and we got done. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right. So well let's start right there. And and
Speaker 1: what do you make, ever son of that move? And
Speaker 1: then the subsequent signing to the practice squad. I didn't
Speaker 1: that's something. You got a guy who's been in the
Speaker 1: league for twelve years in Brandon card he's on the
Speaker 1: practice squad to start things off. I don't think he's
Speaker 1: going to stale the practice squad for long. It's just
Speaker 1: a way of getting things going right now. As as
Speaker 1: Mickey said, as who they get him up to speed, uh,
Speaker 1: and see where he is as far as being in
Speaker 1: football shape and that sort of thing. But what's your
Speaker 1: take on on that move, I must have met. I
Speaker 1: was shocked, but I was not in on. You know
Speaker 1: what was going on in practice, uh, Spags had told
Speaker 1: me after the deal was done, and after I was
Speaker 1: ready to come over there and blow up his house. U.
Speaker 1: I assumed that Dix was playing well. I just assumed
Speaker 1: that he was doing making the doing the work that
Speaker 1: he had to do getting the young players ready. But
Speaker 1: when you lose your job in practice, when they bring
Speaker 1: you in, when your guy, your old coach brings you in,
Speaker 1: makes you the starting player at a free safety position.
Speaker 1: And I believe it. According to the readouts, he lost
Speaker 1: his job almost the same day that he started. So
Speaker 1: those are things I was not aware of, and these
Speaker 1: are things that Spags was aware of, so not surprised
Speaker 1: about it. The reason I was in favor of it
Speaker 1: was simply because we need experience in the secondary. I
Speaker 1: truly believe that we have been working with young guys
Speaker 1: for a number of years here now and it has
Speaker 1: not panned out. These same players, we're bringing them back.
Speaker 1: We're bringing back Brown, who I thought was a great athlete,
Speaker 1: but he just had never made the plays I wanted
Speaker 1: him to make. You can be a great athlete. All.
Speaker 1: You want to have all these tools, but you have
Speaker 1: to be game ready. And I don't mean just physically,
Speaker 1: I mean mentally. You have to be You have to
Speaker 1: know how to make a play in the secondary. You
Speaker 1: have to know how to anticipate routes and situations. And
Speaker 1: I think we are a defensive backfield of reactionary players
Speaker 1: as opposed to guys that are really anticipating what might come.
Speaker 1: I still see that now. I don't see that how
Speaker 1: that has changed, and that once again it worries me
Speaker 1: because we need that secondary to show what I think
Speaker 1: is a very good defense could be one of the
Speaker 1: better defenses in the NIFFA. So let me give you
Speaker 1: a couple of reasons the Cowboys dissatisfaction with Hawha Clinton Dix.
Speaker 1: First of all, they cut a guy that they guaranteed
Speaker 1: two point two five million dollars too, not a great amount.
Speaker 1: So when they signed him to that one year deal
Speaker 1: and that's all that was guaranteed, that got my intent
Speaker 1: is up that Okay, he's on his third team in
Speaker 1: four years. I don't know how how happy you know
Speaker 1: this guy is gonna be now again to release him?
Speaker 1: When they did, you know they stuffed two point two
Speaker 1: five million of debt money into the salary cap number two.
Speaker 1: He started off, as Everson said, working with the first
Speaker 1: set of safeties along with Xavier Woods. They moved him
Speaker 1: after about a week, maybe week and a half to
Speaker 1: second team and promoted Dorian Thompson. Darian Thompson, And everything
Speaker 1: we heard about Darien Thompson was how well he was playing.
Speaker 1: This is the best he's play. He knows what he's
Speaker 1: due and he can get people lined up. So I thinking,
Speaker 1: h maybe that had something to do it. Well, Xavier
Speaker 1: Woods last week hurts himself, uh, strains a groin in
Speaker 1: that Cowboys night at at and T Stadium. It was
Speaker 1: a Sunday, And the next day when they practice, there
Speaker 1: goes haha, Clinton Dix back with the first team. And
Speaker 1: so they saw him back with the first team again
Speaker 1: for three practices, I believe, and they still weren't happy
Speaker 1: with him and decided to let him go and put
Speaker 1: and get back one point one point five million of
Speaker 1: what they would have owed him. So they're fact dissatisfaction
Speaker 1: with him was on three different levels. So you know
Speaker 1: that's always Bill and ever since my you know, my
Speaker 1: cautionary tale with free agency. You see a name, you
Speaker 1: recognize a name, and you go, oh, yeah, let's get
Speaker 1: that guy because he's good. Well, maybe he's not good
Speaker 1: enough when he's changing teams so so much in a
Speaker 1: couple of years, and evidently, you know, they made a
Speaker 1: really smart contract for him, the fact that they didn't
Speaker 1: guarantee the whole thing, which was three point seven five million.
Speaker 1: Tay Will McKay. He must have a crystal ball somewhere
Speaker 1: because almost every movie he's making right now, he's not
Speaker 1: only making great moves, but he's also covering himself on
Speaker 1: some of the more questionable moves, such as a Clinton
Speaker 1: Dick signing. I don't know what, how how was not doing.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he didn't have any sense of urgency.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he couldn't grasp the you know,
Speaker 1: the crust of the defense. I don't know what it was,
Speaker 1: but you know, when you have a guy that has
Speaker 1: had that much promise throughout his career, even though at
Speaker 1: the end you were having some issues, I don't know
Speaker 1: what it could have been in regards to grasping this
Speaker 1: concept of the Cowboys defense. So I'm gonna trust the
Speaker 1: coaches and see that they have decided to go with
Speaker 1: a young group, but even bringing in Brandon cart the
Speaker 1: safety position, he was still part of a defense that
Speaker 1: really wasn't showing him to make many plays on the ball.
Speaker 1: They were always good at one on one, but not
Speaker 1: making any plays on the ball. So hopefully the experience
Speaker 1: he gained in Baltimore, he can bring it back here
Speaker 1: from in a different position. He was playing corner when
Speaker 1: he was here, but in the different position as safety.
Speaker 1: Hopefully he can have some type of experience by having
Speaker 1: that overall view from that safety position that will allow
Speaker 1: him to lead a very year. You know, after that
Speaker 1: first game, we'll we'll find out what the rest of
Speaker 1: the league thinks about haha, Clinton dicks because obviously you know,
Speaker 1: he didn't have to go through waivers, but no one
Speaker 1: claimed him, No one you know, signed And now you say, well,
Speaker 1: maybe they're waiting after the first game, so we don't
Speaker 1: have to guarante. He doesn't have the one time opportunity
Speaker 1: to take guarantee or to take a guaranteed base salary
Speaker 1: if he should get released. So next week, if no
Speaker 1: one claims him, then something's up. The one thing that
Speaker 1: I think took place also in the decision was the
Speaker 1: fact that if he's going to be a backup, he's
Speaker 1: got to play special teams, and I didn't. I don't
Speaker 1: know if they thought he was either willing or capable
Speaker 1: to help out on special teams. And the other thing
Speaker 1: to keep in mind, even though he was with the
Speaker 1: Packers was a first round draft pick. Of course, Dom
Speaker 1: Capers was the defensive coordinator of the Packers back then.
Speaker 1: This is a different defensive coaching staff, and it does
Speaker 1: raise an eyebrow when he's been through so many teams
Speaker 1: here the last few years. I gotta ask, Okay, Mickey,
Speaker 1: you are in the SWBC Mortgage studios there at the start,
Speaker 1: I am let's go, Everson. I've got to ask you,
Speaker 1: who is that behind you? That that picture of number
Speaker 1: twenty four, Well, let me guess. Hey, I don't recognize
Speaker 1: him because I think it's black head, but it looks
Speaker 1: like Everson Walls. I just always put it up. I
Speaker 1: think I've mentioned it before. Usually I just have a
Speaker 1: blank wall behind me. And one of the Twitter followers,
Speaker 1: one of our Twitter followers on mix shots, suggested that
Speaker 1: I spruced up the background, so don't mind the don't
Speaker 1: mind the Tequilo over on this side. Just let though Everson,
Speaker 1: there's a there's a Larry Brown resemblance in that picture there.
Speaker 1: I don't think Larry Brown was even born when I
Speaker 1: got that interception. So let's let's get off of that.
Speaker 1: So since we were, you know what, since we were
Speaker 1: talking about a cornerback moving to safety, Everson, what, what
Speaker 1: is that transition for a guy that's played basically corner although,
Speaker 1: you know what, towards the end of his career here,
Speaker 1: so he was with the Cowboys twenty twelve through twenty sixteen. Uh,
Speaker 1: they had some alignments back there when they played three
Speaker 1: safeties across the back and he was one of those
Speaker 1: safeties on the outside, and they moved somebody else into
Speaker 1: a true cornerback spot. So for Brandon Carr, what's that
Speaker 1: transition like? Well, it really depends on your background that
Speaker 1: goes back and ways. I was blessed because at Grambling State,
Speaker 1: I played every position in the secondary. In my junior year,
Speaker 1: grew up even at Bergner High School, safety was my
Speaker 1: original position. I started playing cornerback at Grambling just in
Speaker 1: order to keep my scholarship. I had to learn how
Speaker 1: to cover. So that's a whole different thing when you're
Speaker 1: in safety. If you're in natural safety, then you have
Speaker 1: an ability to figure out what the offense is trying
Speaker 1: to do almost from the snap of the ball. You
Speaker 1: have to understand where where your critical points are before
Speaker 1: the ball is snapped, and then you work your way
Speaker 1: down in progression in regards to what can hurt you
Speaker 1: in your secondary. So I'm hoping Brandon had either known
Speaker 1: before or was able to kind of cultivate that type
Speaker 1: of instinct by being a safety. You know, I played.
Speaker 1: To me one of the more underrated safeties that I've
Speaker 1: ever played with was Michael Downs, and Michael Downs was
Speaker 1: by Jane Starters over and over the end. You gotta
Speaker 1: be on the past because the flex was like that
Speaker 1: for a free safety, but you also have to come
Speaker 1: in and plug on the run. So his responsibilities as
Speaker 1: a safety for the flex was totally different. A little
Speaker 1: bit more. They ask more of our safeties back in
Speaker 1: the eighties with the flex defense. Nowadays, you don't really
Speaker 1: have to worry about that. You just make sure that
Speaker 1: nothing gets deeper than you. But to me, a true
Speaker 1: safety that's gonna make some plays, you have to anticipate
Speaker 1: where your dangers are and you also have to figure
Speaker 1: out exactly where they're trying to go with the ball.
Speaker 1: And there are times when a safety can make all
Speaker 1: the difference in the world in a passing game. His
Speaker 1: cornerbacks will know to trust him to be there. Number one,
Speaker 1: The safety himself has to make sure that those cornerbacks
Speaker 1: understand where they need to be. And if you start
Speaker 1: working that thing together as a fluid secondary, it's a
Speaker 1: beautiful thing. And I'm hoping car can understand that there
Speaker 1: are going to be some times in the gold ball game,
Speaker 1: especially in the red zone, especially during key parts of
Speaker 1: the game, where bad free safety can make all the
Speaker 1: difference in the world and he can make some plays
Speaker 1: on the ball that can save your team. I'm hoping
Speaker 1: that that's where guys like Brandon Carr can do I'm
Speaker 1: hoping Thompson can do it as well. Even you know what.
Speaker 1: And the thing that I think he emphasized or at
Speaker 1: least mentioned during we got a chance to talk to
Speaker 1: him for about ten minutes on one of our virtual interviews,
Speaker 1: and he talked about how he needs to study and
Speaker 1: study this defense because he felt like the key to
Speaker 1: play in safety was anticipe patient and I think you
Speaker 1: understand that. And I've always thought that the safety needs
Speaker 1: to know what's going to happen before it happens by
Speaker 1: reading what's going on. I thought that was one of
Speaker 1: the great attributes that Darren Woodson had when he played
Speaker 1: a true safety spot, that he could diagnose what was
Speaker 1: going on. So I thought that was a good sign
Speaker 1: that he knew he needed to study. By the way,
Speaker 1: they're not practicing today and he was out on the
Speaker 1: field by himself kind of pantomiming his back pedal and
Speaker 1: turning to like, go get the ball, so he's already
Speaker 1: kind of working on that. He said he was in shape,
Speaker 1: said he started strength and conditioning back in February and
Speaker 1: didn't give up even though he wasn't on a team.
Speaker 1: So I think that's what people need to understand the
Speaker 1: fact that he didn't go through training camp with anybody,
Speaker 1: and obviously there was no offseason, so this is all
Speaker 1: a start for him. And I thought Jerry Jones comment
Speaker 1: on him, I thought was very clear on what they
Speaker 1: think about the safety position because he said we were
Speaker 1: it was a very fortuitous opportunity to sign a guy
Speaker 1: like that. So when he said that and that kind
Speaker 1: of got into the answer about Earl Thomas this morning,
Speaker 1: and it sounded like, you know, okay, we got kind
Speaker 1: of a veteran guy back there, and it's not at
Speaker 1: a big price. And by the way, my guess is,
Speaker 1: and I haven't seen this yet, that even though Brandon
Speaker 1: cars on the practice squad, he's probably not making practice
Speaker 1: squad money. You can pay those guys whatever you want,
Speaker 1: and so I would imagine they signed him to a
Speaker 1: salary and then first chance they get when he's ready.
Speaker 1: And Jerry said, probably not this week, but maybe in
Speaker 1: a week or two he'd be ready to go. And
Speaker 1: we got to take a break here. But Brandon's been
Speaker 1: waiting in the wings right here in Dallas ever since
Speaker 1: last season. In fact, I saw him. I was doing
Speaker 1: a live shot for CBS eleven in Tostito's Plaza outside
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Speaker 1: day before he was released by the Baltimore Ravens. He
Speaker 1: was there with a camera crewer doing a promotional shoot
Speaker 1: for a charity. And by the way, of course, Brandon,
Speaker 1: as we know through his years here, has done so
Speaker 1: much in the community, and that's such a good guy
Speaker 1: and so It's great to have him back with the Cowboys,
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Speaker 1: I only feel I only feel spin when you do
Speaker 1: it upas Bill, when you do it, it's so smooth
Speaker 1: and heavenly. But mis spags does it? I just I
Speaker 1: feel something come through the computer. I'm okay, I'm good.
Speaker 1: You know. You know though, Mickey, I was wondering, as
Speaker 1: you're reading that, have you been practicing? No? I just
Speaker 1: found that after I printed it out the other day.
Speaker 1: Reading you could tell I was never a good reader
Speaker 1: in great school. It's the new. Actually, these are producer,
Speaker 1: These are the new, That's what it is. These are
Speaker 1: the new old glasses. How about this for getting lucky?
Speaker 1: I sat on my glasses and uh mess up the frame.
Speaker 1: So I was thinking, well, if I can find the
Speaker 1: same frame, I can just pop out the lenses and
Speaker 1: put them back in. Well I couldn't. And so when
Speaker 1: I went to the eye doctor for my nearly exam
Speaker 1: and then I needed to get new glasses, I went
Speaker 1: over there and the lady that was helping me pulls
Speaker 1: out four of these things that I go, well, those
Speaker 1: look like the ones I got, and she goes they
Speaker 1: are I said, well, can they be my backups? So
Speaker 1: these are the new old glasses. Nice so ever said,
Speaker 1: what kind of shape are you in right now? I'm
Speaker 1: in pretty good shape. Pretty good. I got my bike
Speaker 1: fixed yesterday. About SPADs we're riding on my team speed
Speaker 1: nicky or you can't be in very good shape because
Speaker 1: you've been honest, you know what, it's getting better. And
Speaker 1: I found this little contraption that you can put your
Speaker 1: back wheel of your bike on the stand and pedal
Speaker 1: away while you're inside and not go anywhere. So I've
Speaker 1: been working all right. Let me ask you this. There's
Speaker 1: there's a reason I'm asking this. Do you know what
Speaker 1: your resting heart rate is? Resting heart rate like, how
Speaker 1: high I can get it? Yeah or just oh when
Speaker 1: you yeah. Well last time, last time I did it,
Speaker 1: it was it was somewhere around sixty or seventy. Okay,
Speaker 1: ever fifty two right now, Bill, Okay, I went to
Speaker 1: the dentist this morning, and they check my blood pressure
Speaker 1: and heart rate, and I always I have learned. I
Speaker 1: have learned to like going to the dentist when I
Speaker 1: am in shape because they'll check my pulse and if
Speaker 1: I'm in shape, my heart rate will be very low.
Speaker 1: I was at forty seven. Nice, I was my heart rate.
Speaker 1: It might be a new record for me. Anyway. That
Speaker 1: was just on the side. That shows that I'm ready
Speaker 1: for football season. All right, we're ready to go. Now,
Speaker 1: here's the deal. Five months from now, at the end
Speaker 1: of the football season, when I'm so busy where I
Speaker 1: can't work out, I want to see what my heart
Speaker 1: it is. Then it'll be. But you set the ball
Speaker 1: pretty high, Bill, so you know, forty plus that's not
Speaker 1: bad at all. I'm if I if I don't get
Speaker 1: much to eat, I'm looking at about forty two. So
Speaker 1: they oh, there you go. Wow. All right, right, Mickey.
Speaker 1: Another thing that happened since we last convened last Thursday,
Speaker 1: Randy Gregory reinstated. What's your take on, mister Gregory. Of course,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a while before we see him even
Speaker 1: either in practice. Yeah, they reinstated him, but put some
Speaker 1: stipulations on it, and probably for good reasons, since he
Speaker 1: hasn't been involved in football since the end of the
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen season. Uh, so he's gonna have to uh
Speaker 1: you know, he's been conditionally reinstated. Uh, and they're gonna
Speaker 1: give him six weeks with the team, uh starting this week, uh,
Speaker 1: to to get ready to play uh and I and
Speaker 1: I'm guessing they're also still monitoring his behavior during those
Speaker 1: six weeks to make sure that he doesn't just rush
Speaker 1: in and all he worries about is playing football. So,
Speaker 1: you know what, it can only help, you know. Mike
Speaker 1: Nolan was speaking of it yesterday and he talked about
Speaker 1: DPR at least designated pass rusher, but also possibly like
Speaker 1: a strong side linebacker too. So they've done that a
Speaker 1: little bit with their defensive ends and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: so they see him with couple of dual roles. But again,
Speaker 1: as Mike McCarthy said yesterday, you know, our first concern
Speaker 1: is just getting him acclimated to being on a football
Speaker 1: team and make sure he's still taking care of his
Speaker 1: life and do things that will allow him to play football.
Speaker 1: So you know, it's it's a win win situation for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys because it's not a big financial expenditure against
Speaker 1: the cap, and you know, if he's got himself straight,
Speaker 1: then you know they've got two guys kind of in
Speaker 1: the same boat along with Alden Smith. You know, back
Speaker 1: in the day, we wouldn't even care about what the
Speaker 1: kid's life was like. I mean, let's be real, if
Speaker 1: he wasn't ready to play football, then we're just gonna
Speaker 1: throw them away. So it's kind of good to see
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys really kind of investing a bit in
Speaker 1: his well being as a person, because that seems to
Speaker 1: be the issues that have kept him off the field
Speaker 1: for the past what facts three Yeah, December twenty eighteen
Speaker 1: was the last time he played. And you're talking about
Speaker 1: a guy that you know, football is not a problem
Speaker 1: with him. That's not what you have to worry about
Speaker 1: with Gregory. These are things off the field that he
Speaker 1: had to deal with. I don't know if he's dealing
Speaker 1: with depression and things that nature. That's done a tough life,
Speaker 1: and I'm glad the Cowboys are not giving up on him.
Speaker 1: My old agent, Winberg is always talking about, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: trying to get him back in the league, and I
Speaker 1: think behind the things, he's been trying to help out
Speaker 1: a little bit. I think Gregory has his own agent,
Speaker 1: but you know, everyone's been trying to give Randy's advice
Speaker 1: on I'm doing things. But this is something that he
Speaker 1: has had to figure out on his own, and I
Speaker 1: hope he has because as long as he's getting stuff
Speaker 1: together off the field, I don't think you have to
Speaker 1: worry about how much he's going to bring to you
Speaker 1: on the field. Notice Peter King and his predictions for
Speaker 1: the season, and he's tabbed Alden Smith as his preseason
Speaker 1: comeback Player of the Year. It would be the biggest
Speaker 1: comeback ever after not playing since November fifteenth of twenty fifteen. Right,
Speaker 1: that's a long way to come back. But you know what,
Speaker 1: everything we've seen so far of him on the field,
Speaker 1: ed sure looks like when they go out there for
Speaker 1: the first snap in La Sunday night, he's on the
Speaker 1: field as the right defensive end and I haven't seen
Speaker 1: any signs of while this guy can't play. And I
Speaker 1: remember Mike McCarthy was asked if somebody didn't know about
Speaker 1: Alden Smith and they saw him out at practice for
Speaker 1: the first time, what would they say? And his response was,
Speaker 1: who's that number fifty eight? So they have certainly high
Speaker 1: expectations for him at this point. Now, how many plays
Speaker 1: can he play when you haven't played that long? You
Speaker 1: know who knows. But with the acquisition of Everson Griffin,
Speaker 1: he doesn't have to play sixty snaps in a game.
Speaker 1: And Griffin looks like he's got the flexibility to not
Speaker 1: only play outside but do a little pass rushing inside too.
Speaker 1: My goods, when you think about these three guys, all
Speaker 1: three of them have had issues off the field, and
Speaker 1: it's really kind of good to see the Cowboys still
Speaker 1: taking the vested interest in them. Of course, the upside
Speaker 1: is they're gonna kick ass on the field, But I'm
Speaker 1: just glad that they're making an effort to make sure
Speaker 1: that these guys are not forgotten about. All right, I
Speaker 1: am monitoring things on periscope. We are live on periscope
Speaker 1: as usual. If you have any comments there, I'm tracking
Speaker 1: that and also you can tweet at me at CBS
Speaker 1: eleven Phil Jones, Do you have any questions? And when
Speaker 1: we come back, we'll get Mickey's take on what Jerry
Speaker 1: Jones had to say in his Tuesday radio conversation on
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Speaker 1: Jerry was on the fan this morning. What was the
Speaker 1: headline coming out? Well, I think there was, you know,
Speaker 1: kind of a bunch of things. One of the things
Speaker 1: that he was asked was what happens if a team
Speaker 1: has a guy or two or three test positive the
Speaker 1: Saturday before the game, or doesn't pass the protocol on Sunday, well,
Speaker 1: they cancel a game. And he emphatically said, no, I
Speaker 1: don't see that the NFL is going to canceled games
Speaker 1: that are already scheduled for television. This isn't baseball where
Speaker 1: you can play two the next day or the next week.
Speaker 1: So I thought that was very instructive. I told you
Speaker 1: what he said about car about Xavier Woods. He was
Speaker 1: asked what he thought the difference in this team would
Speaker 1: be to maybe the past few under Jason Garrett, and
Speaker 1: he said, we won't be as predictable. So I think
Speaker 1: he and that's what the players have said about disguising
Speaker 1: things and doing different things out of the same look.
Speaker 1: And then you know, he kind of went on towards
Speaker 1: the end about what's going to happen with the national anthem,
Speaker 1: and he really didn't get specific on any of that,
Speaker 1: but he said that what he expects from his players
Speaker 1: is to be able to do something to call to
Speaker 1: make a difference, and he didn't say that kneeling doesn't
Speaker 1: make a difference and that players should do what they
Speaker 1: feel like they need to do. But he also continued
Speaker 1: to intimate that it should be a team thing. He thought,
Speaker 1: but I think he's given some leeway on this, so
Speaker 1: be interesting to see what happens. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: the fact that they're playing a game should scream three
Speaker 1: inch headlines. Right, everything we've gone through and they're going
Speaker 1: to play a game. But what's going to take precedence
Speaker 1: is what happens during the national anthem, maybe even more
Speaker 1: so than who wins or who loses. So I'll be
Speaker 1: interested to see that. And I thought the other thing
Speaker 1: that was very instructive. Guys, he was asked what did
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson's contract do for upcoming negotiations with DAK and
Speaker 1: he basically said nothing. Really, He goes, we we understand
Speaker 1: where the market is, and we knew where the market
Speaker 1: would go when those guys get uh signed, So really
Speaker 1: had no effect on what we're trying to do for
Speaker 1: a long term deal. And I'm just going to point
Speaker 1: out one thing, you know, So he got a four
Speaker 1: year deal right for one hundred and what was on
Speaker 1: one of the salary websites. It was one hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty six million, four year extension. But guess what he
Speaker 1: had two years left on his original contract this year
Speaker 1: and then his fifth year option that Houston had already
Speaker 1: picked up, So in those two years it was twenty
Speaker 1: million dollars combined. So it's a six year, one hundred
Speaker 1: and eighty million dollar contract to me, which averages out
Speaker 1: to what thirty million a year, and his guarantees um
Speaker 1: basically run out after after four years and they can
Speaker 1: get out of that contract. And sixty four million dollars
Speaker 1: of that money that's not guaranteed is in those last
Speaker 1: two in base salaries. So while it looks like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, they gave him forty million a year, well
Speaker 1: the extension was forty million, but he's going to play
Speaker 1: for two years under his previous contract. So I think
Speaker 1: you have to look at it that way and look
Speaker 1: at what the guarantees are. I mean, he got guaranteed
Speaker 1: one hundred and ten point seven million. Well that's basically
Speaker 1: what the Cowboys were offering dak under a guarantee. So
Speaker 1: we'll see how it plays out, but I don't think
Speaker 1: it knocks everything a skewed for the contract for Dak Well.
Speaker 1: I was just glad that Jerry kind of finally came
Speaker 1: out and address some of the issues of the summer,
Speaker 1: he hadn't really said much at all. Been kind of
Speaker 1: disappointed in that, because you know, Cowboys are amazing team.
Speaker 1: They are the number one sports franchise in the world.
Speaker 1: I think along with that, I always thought that Jerry
Speaker 1: and the Cowboys really owed it to the rest of
Speaker 1: the sports world to speak out as loud or louder
Speaker 1: than any other sports franchise. I get it that there
Speaker 1: was baseball season, basketball season coming up, and the baseball
Speaker 1: players and basketball players took over in regards to the narrative.
Speaker 1: As far as kneeling for the national anthem is concerned,
Speaker 1: and black lives matter at any cause, Brianna Taylor, all
Speaker 1: these causes that are out there, I think the NFL
Speaker 1: really should as the commissioner spoke up. I thought the
Speaker 1: owners should have been right there with the commissioner speaking up.
Speaker 1: In some way, I think that silence really doesn't do
Speaker 1: well to what's going on in society right now. You
Speaker 1: talked about the national anthem and kneeling for it. The
Speaker 1: thing about kneeling for the national anthem, it's not about
Speaker 1: who doesn't kneel, it's and it's not about who does kneel.
Speaker 1: It's about you doing what you want to do. So
Speaker 1: if I'm not gonna judge you for not kneeling, as
Speaker 1: long as I know you're my boy, you're my teammate,
Speaker 1: and we're all together on this field, and I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna judge you if you're not kneeling. So these are
Speaker 1: the kind of things that should have come out of
Speaker 1: this whole narrative. Be able to do what you want
Speaker 1: to do without fear of you know, designating or without repercussions. Yeah,
Speaker 1: without any type of your explanation, are really just overreacting.
Speaker 1: So I think it's they should understand, give yours, have
Speaker 1: the ability to do what you want to do and
Speaker 1: still respect what your other teammate is doing to me.
Speaker 1: That's the main thing about it. And I wish Jerry
Speaker 1: could have could have spoken more this offseason about that.
Speaker 1: I really wish he would have just come out and
Speaker 1: said something that could have galvanized, you know, all of
Speaker 1: sports really, because as a Cowboys speak, then so does
Speaker 1: the rest of the NFL and even the sports world. Well,
Speaker 1: they're definitely going to be in the spotlight on Sunday night.
Speaker 1: All eyes will be on the Cowboys and the Rams,
Speaker 1: you know, Mickey Everson was in the spotlight with the
Speaker 1: sixty Anniverse sixty year Anniversary Cowboys team. We haven't had
Speaker 1: much time because we had to get cut off on
Speaker 1: things going on here throughout this today's show. But as
Speaker 1: we wrap things up, where was Everson on that? Everson
Speaker 1: finished in the top sixty. He finished twenty fifth, but
Speaker 1: since he's on this show, on my list, he finished
Speaker 1: twentieth on the good Hey, so let's just say I'm
Speaker 1: top thirty. That sounds a lot. Yeah, absolutely, top twenty five.
Speaker 1: I'm saying Everson's not number twenty five. Everson, as it's
Speaker 1: shown in the picture behind him, he is number twenty four.
Speaker 1: So if he's gonna be anywhere close to twenty four,
Speaker 1: let's make him number twenty four on the list. Let's
Speaker 1: just say that picture depicts number one. That's my first
Speaker 1: NFL regular season interception. So that out of five seven, sir,
Speaker 1: five seven. That's not including the playoffs. We don't include.
Speaker 1: I was stock stats like basketball and baseball, no regular
Speaker 1: season fifty seven picks. So here here were the Here
Speaker 1: were the guys. Immediately in front of Everson, Harvey Martin
Speaker 1: was twenty Tony Romo twenty one, Dion Sanders twenty two,
Speaker 1: Cornell Green twenty three, and Don Meredith was twenty four.
Speaker 1: But after Everson was Zach Martin, Ed Jones, Tyrant Smith,
Speaker 1: Don Perkins, and John Nilan. I gotta say that number
Speaker 1: twenty four, Harvey Martin, that speaks volumes. I mean, as
Speaker 1: you look at this list, I'm hoping that they kind of,
Speaker 1: you know, as a precursor to the next Ring of
Speaker 1: Honor inductees. And man, I just wish Harvey would get
Speaker 1: on that list. I really do. He deserves that, his
Speaker 1: family deserves it, all of them being from Dallas, Texas
Speaker 1: over the Oak Clevland. Yeah, and I hope when people
Speaker 1: see the list and they start looking around that they
Speaker 1: do recognize what Cornell Green meant to the Cowboys and
Speaker 1: what his career was about. Yes, sir, all pro at
Speaker 1: cornerback and safety. That is not done wasn't done much.
Speaker 1: Then there's certainly not played college football basketball player. I
Speaker 1: was just adding up the number of career interceptions among
Speaker 1: the current Cowboys secondary to see and I haven't. I
Speaker 1: haven't looked up raining cars early on the squad. Just
Speaker 1: stop this. I got him at twenty six, but that
Speaker 1: was just a quick view of my notes over here
Speaker 1: said we were ending on a good note, and you
Speaker 1: had to bring that up side here. But we got
Speaker 1: a lot to get to this week. We're gonna dive
Speaker 1: into those Los Angeles Rams. You know the name of
Speaker 1: that stadium mission Sofi Stadium, and I just figured out
Speaker 1: it was a financial institution, Sofi Stadium, the first game ever,
Speaker 1: as Jerry said on the radio, hopefully they'll get the
Speaker 1: first win ever at Sofi Stadium. Of course, Jerry played
Speaker 1: a major role in all that taking place there in
Speaker 1: southern California, not only with the Rams, but also the
Speaker 1: Chargers playing in that stadium. Only fitting that the Cowboys
Speaker 1: will be playing there, and we will be here every
Speaker 1: day one thirty until two fifteen, exactly until further notice.
Speaker 1: You never know what happens with the schedules, right, but
Speaker 1: I think we're pretty we're pretty solidified here at one thirty.
Speaker 1: Sounds like Vicky has taken on the we're all day
Speaker 1: to day. No, it's you know what, My my refrain
Speaker 1: all the time when I say stuff this year is basically,
Speaker 1: we'll see yes, we will see ye, so good. We
Speaker 1: will see you again tomorrow afternoon at one thirties Central
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