WEBVTT - Murder Brokers from Hot Money: The New Narcos

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<v Speaker 1>Pushkin.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, it's Jacob.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to tell you about a new season of

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<v Speaker 3>a show that Pushkin makes with The Financial Times. The

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<v Speaker 3>show is called Hot Money.

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<v Speaker 4>The new season is called.

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<v Speaker 3>The New Narcos, and it's about It's about a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of things. It's about the cocaine business in Europe, it's

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<v Speaker 3>about international sanctions, and it is about murder. It's a

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<v Speaker 3>great show. It's just coming out this week. You can

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<v Speaker 3>get it, as they say, wherever you get your podcasts,

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<v Speaker 3>and we're going to play you the first episode of

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<v Speaker 3>the show right now.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope you like it. I'm Miles Johnson and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>an investigative journalist with the Financial Times. And the story

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to tell you it's not a love story,

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<v Speaker 2>but it starts with a wedding. It's a wedding that

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<v Speaker 2>takes place in Dubai in twenty seventeen. It's a hot

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<v Speaker 2>summer's day. The Burj al Arab one of the most

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<v Speaker 2>expensive hotels in the world. It's a skyscraper shaped like

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<v Speaker 2>the sail of a ship, rising up from the glittering

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<v Speaker 2>water of the Persian Gulf. Guests can arrive across a

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<v Speaker 2>private bridge in the hotel's fleet of rolls, Royce phantoms

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<v Speaker 2>or flyin landing on the helipad on the roof. The

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<v Speaker 2>wedding party that day has been told to keep things

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<v Speaker 2>discreete no photos and no social media. Security is tight.

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<v Speaker 2>The groom is a young Irish entrepreneur and some of

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<v Speaker 2>his most important business partners have come to celebrate his

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<v Speaker 2>big day. But these aren't your average businessmen. Some of

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<v Speaker 2>them hang priceless stolen masterpieces on their walls. They've got

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<v Speaker 2>multiple passports with multiple identities, and they can order the

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<v Speaker 2>assassination of almost anyone anywhere in the world. Because this

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<v Speaker 2>isn't just a wedding, this is an international crime summit.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a met of what will come to be known

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<v Speaker 2>as the Doubai Supercartel, a shadowy criminal network that controls

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<v Speaker 2>a multi billion dollar cocaine empire spanning the globe. Over

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<v Speaker 2>the years, I've written about a lot of different things,

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<v Speaker 2>but more recently you could perhaps describe my beat as

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<v Speaker 2>the places where crime and business collide. I've written about

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<v Speaker 2>Russian billionaires who control private mercenary armies and the Italian

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<v Speaker 2>mafia laundering their cash through the City of London, have

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<v Speaker 2>covered Vatican financial scandals, and spy rings that smuggle microchips.

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<v Speaker 2>Because crime is a business, and modern organized crime groups

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<v Speaker 2>they're increasingly run like multinational companies. They have thousands of employees,

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<v Speaker 2>complicated logistical supply chains, and even investment portfolios. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>big economic story, but you don't usually read about it

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<v Speaker 2>in the business pages because reporting on international crime groups

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<v Speaker 2>in the same way we'd report on a blue chip corporation, well,

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<v Speaker 2>it's hard. Crime bosses they don't usually have pr teams

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<v Speaker 2>you can bring up, and mafias. They don't publish audited

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<v Speaker 2>accounts or glossy annual reports. But the money generated by

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<v Speaker 2>organized crime is vast, and most of the time it's invisible.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like this ocean of shadow cash. We know it's there,

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<v Speaker 2>but we can't ever really see it. It's trillions of

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<v Speaker 2>dollars and it fuels things like weapons, trafficking and war.

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<v Speaker 2>It can even topple governments. And the men celebrating in

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<v Speaker 2>that wedding in Dubai. They've come up with a new

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<v Speaker 2>model of organized crime, and it's become so successful that

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<v Speaker 2>by twenty seventeen, police believe that they control a third

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<v Speaker 2>of Europe's cocaine market worth billions of dollars a year.

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<v Speaker 2>When I first came across to do By Supercartel, it

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<v Speaker 2>seems like something from a film, something almost ridiculous, like

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<v Speaker 2>Specter from James Bond. I needed to find out more,

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<v Speaker 2>so I started talking to people. I met with sources

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<v Speaker 2>in law enforcement, undercover agents, spies. I got hold of

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<v Speaker 2>legal documents and investigative dossiers, and then I realized, this

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<v Speaker 2>isn't just a story about crime. This is a story

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<v Speaker 2>about a secret economic war. It's a story about who

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<v Speaker 2>gets to control how money moves around the world, and

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<v Speaker 2>where the Western governments can keep hold of that power

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<v Speaker 2>as the rules based international order breaks apart. Because I

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<v Speaker 2>discovered that the Dubai Supercartel, they're not just hiding from governments,

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<v Speaker 2>they're working alongside them. But my first clue to understanding

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<v Speaker 2>how this group of criminals became so rich and so

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<v Speaker 2>powerful it took me somewhere that's a million miles away

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<v Speaker 2>from the bling of a Dubai wedding, because one day

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<v Speaker 2>I was speaking to a source and they told me

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<v Speaker 2>something I just really wasn't expecting. They said, if you

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<v Speaker 2>really want to understand how all of this works, you

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<v Speaker 2>have to go and look at a murder in a

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<v Speaker 2>small town in the Netherlands. This is Hot Money Season

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<v Speaker 2>two the New Narcos, episode one, Murder Brokers.

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<v Speaker 5>One of the good things about being a crime reporter

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<v Speaker 5>is that you talk to everyone who wants to talk

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<v Speaker 5>to you, very different people, and I like to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Paul Paul Volks. He's a reporter in Amsterdam

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<v Speaker 2>and for more than twenty years he's been working the

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<v Speaker 2>local crime beat for Het Parole, a daily city newspaper.

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<v Speaker 2>Paul wears black t shirts and a leather jacket and

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<v Speaker 2>has a gold hoop in one ear. He's old school.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not posting hot takes on social media. When I

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<v Speaker 2>first met Paul, he didn't take long before he showed

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<v Speaker 2>me his bike. He rides it everywhere down cobblestone streets

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<v Speaker 2>and squares and along beautiful canals, going to coffee shops

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<v Speaker 2>and bars to meet his sources. But if that sounds

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<v Speaker 2>a bit quaint, there's a fast, seedy aside to Amsterdam

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<v Speaker 2>that keeps a crime reporter like Paul pretty busy. Because

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<v Speaker 2>Amsterdam is famous for his beauty, but it's also well

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<v Speaker 2>known for its red light district. It's relaxed drug laws

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<v Speaker 2>and a vibrant criminal underworld, and that means Paul always

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<v Speaker 2>has plenty to write about. Like all good crime reporters,

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<v Speaker 2>Paul works his beat. He speaks to everyone. He talks

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<v Speaker 2>to police officers, lawyers, the local prosecutor's office. But Paul

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<v Speaker 2>is also always cultivating his underworld sources.

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<v Speaker 5>I tried to build my network step by step because,

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<v Speaker 5>as you might know, as a grime juellist, your colleague

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<v Speaker 5>cannot give you his or her network. That's not possible.

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<v Speaker 2>And he learns early on the criminals well, they care

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<v Speaker 2>about journalistic standards too. A notorious underworld figure reaches out

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<v Speaker 2>to Paul about a mistake he thought he'd made in

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<v Speaker 2>one of his articles because he wanted to set the

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<v Speaker 2>record straight.

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<v Speaker 5>But the first time, of course, I thought where to meet,

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<v Speaker 5>how to meet, how to keep it safe. I learned

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<v Speaker 5>quite fast that some public space as a coffee bar

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<v Speaker 5>is the best place to sit. Or atn airport, where

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<v Speaker 5>everybody knows there are lots of cameras, there's a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of security. Nothing will happen there. You'll know for sure

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<v Speaker 5>that all eyes will be focused on you as a criminal.

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<v Speaker 5>And I we don't fit in, so if something weird

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<v Speaker 5>would happen, everybody would be a witness and they know

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<v Speaker 5>it as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Back in twenty fifteen, Paul is busy covering crime in Amsterdam. Muggings,

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<v Speaker 2>rival gangsters trying to kill each other, batches of dodgy

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<v Speaker 2>drugs that put people's lives in danger. These seem like

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<v Speaker 2>the sort of things you'd imagine happen in any big city.

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<v Speaker 2>Then one morning in December, he gets a call. It's

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<v Speaker 2>from the police department.

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<v Speaker 5>A man in his fifties was shot with one bullet

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<v Speaker 5>in the head and standing next to his fan. Going

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<v Speaker 5>to work from Amsterdam, I went to Almira, which is

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<v Speaker 5>twenty minute rides.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it somewhere you expect there to be shootings, murders?

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<v Speaker 2>You know what sort of areas there's There are lots

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<v Speaker 2>of crime there. What's it like?

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<v Speaker 5>The area and they live in in Almra is just

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<v Speaker 5>a very normal neighborhood with normal working class people. Not

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<v Speaker 5>much trouble over there.

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<v Speaker 2>When Paul arrives, there's already red and white tape blocking

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<v Speaker 2>the area and police have put up a tent to

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<v Speaker 2>cover the body. He gets out of his notebook and

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<v Speaker 2>starts to gather the facts. The victim is called alimtam

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<v Speaker 2>He's fifty six years old and he's an engineer at

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<v Speaker 2>the State Electric Company. He's got a wife, a son.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a family man. But there isn't much else to

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<v Speaker 2>go on. The electrician doesn't seem to have any connection

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<v Speaker 2>to crime.

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<v Speaker 5>All the sources I asked, nobody knew who was this alimotamet.

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<v Speaker 2>To Paul, it just seems to be a random shooting.

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<v Speaker 2>So he heads back to his office and files a

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<v Speaker 2>short story. A few weeks later, his editor asked him

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<v Speaker 2>to write a roundup of the most notable crime stories

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<v Speaker 2>of the last year, and the murder in our mayor

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't make the cut. Paul goes back to riding

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<v Speaker 2>around on his bike and meeting his sources. But in

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<v Speaker 2>the months after, Paul finds that he can't get the

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<v Speaker 2>Matamid case out of his head. That thing when you

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<v Speaker 2>write a story and you have a nagging voice in

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<v Speaker 2>your head, maybe there's something that I'm missing. Paul's covered

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of murders, but this one it seems weird.

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<v Speaker 2>He can't shake the feeling that something does doesn't quite

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<v Speaker 2>add up. The first thing is the style of the killing.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't a sloppy job or a wild act of rage.

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<v Speaker 5>The thing was that one shut through the heads. It's

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<v Speaker 5>not the familiar way of assassinating people. In other assassinations,

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<v Speaker 5>automatic rifles are used, many bullets are shut.

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<v Speaker 2>And then there was the motive. One theory is that

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<v Speaker 2>Mtammed was part of some family feud or had argued

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<v Speaker 2>with a friend. Most of the murders, Paul writes about

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of thing, or criminals killing each other over

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<v Speaker 2>money or tough settling scores. But that didn't really fit

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<v Speaker 2>with the matomic case. So there were other theories.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, maybe electricians, So maybe he was in hemp business.

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<v Speaker 5>The hemp people they need illegal electricity.

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<v Speaker 2>Hemp is another name for weed, and some weed grows

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<v Speaker 2>in the Netherlands steel electricity to power their operations. Matamed

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<v Speaker 2>was an electrician. Maybe that was his connection to crime.

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe he was a wrong person. That was an idea.

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<v Speaker 2>This seemed like the most plausible explanation, a terrible case

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<v Speaker 2>of mistaken identity. Paul keeps thinking about it as he

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<v Speaker 2>drops into cafes to meet informants about other stories. He

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<v Speaker 2>mentions Ali Muhammad's name.

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<v Speaker 5>Criminals didn't know him policemen didn't know him. I tried

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<v Speaker 5>to do some research, but I didn't get a clue.

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<v Speaker 2>To be honest, as a reporter, you can have dozens

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<v Speaker 2>of meetings that lead to nothing, but once in a while,

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<v Speaker 2>you get lucky. And that's what happens to Paul. Out

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<v Speaker 2>of nowhere, he gets a tip.

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<v Speaker 5>I was talking to some source I knew very well,

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<v Speaker 5>and this source told me just at the second cup

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<v Speaker 5>of coffee and he said, well, you remember this story

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<v Speaker 5>of Ali Modamett. You're working on that still, Yes, you

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<v Speaker 5>should go on and go on and dig and dick,

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<v Speaker 5>because there's a very weird, big story behind this murder.

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<v Speaker 2>Paul wasn't the only person thinking about what happened in

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<v Speaker 2>al Mayor that day.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember this, this shooting December fifteenth. Your really nice

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<v Speaker 1>neighbor got guilt. Nobody knows why.

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<v Speaker 2>At the time, Ula Eliam was involved with the local

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<v Speaker 2>city council.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I remember it was like this mystery for

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<v Speaker 1>people like, well, what happened?

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<v Speaker 2>Uler say, he's this intense guy who locks you into

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<v Speaker 2>his gaze, and he's a sharp dresser. When we meet,

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<v Speaker 2>he's wearing this charcoal suit and a black unbuttoned shirt

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<v Speaker 2>down to his chest. When Alimtamada murdered, Ulis is just

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<v Speaker 2>getting into local politics. He's a spokesperson for safety and

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<v Speaker 2>public order in our mayor where Ali Mttammad was killed.

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<v Speaker 1>What was strange in this case there was nothing and

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<v Speaker 1>this was fueled by the National Police.

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<v Speaker 2>The police appealed on national television for any information that

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<v Speaker 2>the public could give them.

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<v Speaker 1>You have any tips, do you have any suggestions. We

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<v Speaker 1>put out this reward.

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<v Speaker 2>But no one came forward. A year goes by, still nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, this is getting this is getting a bit weird.

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<v Speaker 1>So we don't have any clues to find the shooters.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no information about the circumstances of the of the shooting.

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<v Speaker 2>Ulissa is particularly interested in this case because Alimtomed, it

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<v Speaker 2>turns out, was born in Iran and Ulersay's own family

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<v Speaker 2>also moved to the Netherlands from Iran around the same

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<v Speaker 2>time that Alimtammid did.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm named after Odysseus, you know, the Greek king, because

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<v Speaker 1>my father he was reading Odysseus and my father was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I lost my home. I don't know where my home

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<v Speaker 1>will be, but I'm sure this baby will find a

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<v Speaker 1>new home.

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<v Speaker 2>Ulissa's father was a critic of the hardline theocracy imposed

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<v Speaker 2>by the new regime in Iran after the revolution. He

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<v Speaker 2>knew his life might be in danger if he stayed.

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<v Speaker 1>He had to go into hiding very fast. He never

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<v Speaker 1>had the chance to say goodbye to his mother, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>because it was too dangerous.

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<v Speaker 2>First his father moved to Afghanistan, where Ulisse was born,

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<v Speaker 2>and then they moved to the Netherlands, eventually settling in

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<v Speaker 2>Al Mayor. Ulysse grew up in the same sleepy suburb

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<v Speaker 2>where Ali Mtamad lived and died.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been living there for twenty years now. And the

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<v Speaker 1>funny thing is, or the special thing, it also relates

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<v Speaker 1>to my history, you know, like it's a new city.

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<v Speaker 1>The province. One of the nicknames is like new Land

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<v Speaker 1>because it's built from water. Yeah, and my family came

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<v Speaker 1>to a new land. It started a new life. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it all connects really nicely.

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<v Speaker 2>Ulisses father became a law professor and he kept speaking

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<v Speaker 2>out against the Iranian regime from his new home. But

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<v Speaker 2>there was a cost, and this became a reality when

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<v Speaker 2>the family moved to Our Mayor. His father started getting

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<v Speaker 2>serious threats at.

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<v Speaker 1>That time, my father received a massive security protection. I

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<v Speaker 1>was young. You're still focused on things you do when

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<v Speaker 1>you're at that age, you know, playing football, trying to

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy life. But yeah, when you see your dad being

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<v Speaker 1>transported with multiple bodyguards, yeah, of course your life changes.

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<v Speaker 2>So decades later, when an Iranian man is shot in

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<v Speaker 2>his hometown, it gets ulysses attention. Even more so when

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<v Speaker 2>police finally share what they've pieced together from CCTV footage,

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<v Speaker 2>it shows that the idea that you Assen's made a

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<v Speaker 2>mistake looks less and less plausible. This was a meticulously

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<v Speaker 2>planned operation. The police report is a difficult read. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a chilling account of a cold, premeditated murder planned over weeks,

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<v Speaker 2>and it reveals that the killers made two failed attempts

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<v Speaker 2>in the days before Alie Mtummed was shot. On December eleventh,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty fifteen, at around quarter past six in the morning,

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<v Speaker 2>a blue BMW drives slowly down the dark suburban street.

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<v Speaker 2>The driver stops outside one of the houses and turns

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<v Speaker 2>the car's headlights off. Inside, Alie Mtammed is getting started

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<v Speaker 2>with his day. Usually he leaves his house a quarter

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<v Speaker 2>to seven, but today he has a job nearby, so

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<v Speaker 2>he leaves later at eight thirty am. At about eight am,

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<v Speaker 2>the driver of the BMW turns the car back and

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<v Speaker 2>leaves the street. A few days later, Monday, December fourteenth,

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<v Speaker 2>the BMW arrives again at around quarter past six. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a regular work day, and Mohammed walks out of his

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<v Speaker 2>front door a little before seven. A neighbors also leaving

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<v Speaker 2>their house at the same time, and the driver of

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<v Speaker 2>the BMW spots him and Mhammed and drives off. Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 2>December fifteenth, the BMW appears at six o'clock. Matammid's wife

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<v Speaker 2>and teenage son are asleep upstairs as he steps out

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<v Speaker 2>of his house and shuts the front door. That is

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<v Speaker 2>dark outside. No neighbors around this morning. As the electrician

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<v Speaker 2>walks towards his van, a man walks up behind him

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<v Speaker 2>and shoots him in the head. Mahammed slumps to the

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<v Speaker 2>ground and the shooter gets back in his BMW and

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<v Speaker 2>the car speeds off.

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<v Speaker 1>They hit him directly left with the car, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>if I remember correctly, BMW five. They went to the

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<v Speaker 1>specific spot in another part of olmyr burned a car

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<v Speaker 1>and they leave.

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<v Speaker 2>The BMW was found burned out a few miles away,

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<v Speaker 2>and witnesses saw two men walking off.

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<v Speaker 1>There's all the signs of professionals in the criminal circuit,

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<v Speaker 1>so that made it even more strange, like, okay, this

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<v Speaker 1>is really professional, and still we don't have any idea

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<v Speaker 1>why who.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the point that I started to see the

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<v Speaker 2>first liquor, to realize what a murder in a small

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<v Speaker 2>Dutch town could have to do with the supercartel and

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<v Speaker 2>what that could mean. Because Paul has kept on digging

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<v Speaker 2>and he's made an unbelievable discovery.

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<v Speaker 1>And I remember reading it and I think it was

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<v Speaker 1>on a sunny Monday morning, and I immediately I knew.

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<v Speaker 1>I felt in all my body, I know, wow, this

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<v Speaker 1>is crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>In twenty eighteen, Paul breaks a big story and it's

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<v Speaker 2>not about the murderers, but it's about the victim.

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<v Speaker 5>I found out that Ali Motamet was not Ali Motamet

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<v Speaker 5>the electrician. He was an electrician, yes, but he lived

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<v Speaker 5>in Holland with a false eye identity.

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<v Speaker 2>Ali Matamed was, in reality and assumed identity the electrician

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<v Speaker 2>from our mayor had been living a secret life, one

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<v Speaker 2>so secret that even some members of his own family

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<v Speaker 2>didn't know who he really was.

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<v Speaker 5>Ali Motamet was Mohammed Reza colahis so many and when

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<v Speaker 5>he was twenty three years old, he plays the bomb

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<v Speaker 5>which blew up seventy four people of the Islamic Republican

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<v Speaker 5>Party in Iran.

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<v Speaker 1>This happened in my city, quite close to where I live,

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<v Speaker 1>and probably the regime, you know, the whole reason I'm

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<v Speaker 1>in Holland. They were able to find someone who they

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<v Speaker 1>were looking for for like at that time, like thirty

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<v Speaker 1>five years, who was like one of their prime targets

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<v Speaker 1>because they wanted to revenge My dad always wanted me.

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<v Speaker 1>They're dangerous, you know, they found him. These are not

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<v Speaker 1>bedtime stories. This is getting real.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes you get a glimpse of something, the edge of

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<v Speaker 2>what seems like it might be a much bigger story,

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<v Speaker 2>and it leads you into a whole new place, a

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<v Speaker 2>place where you're not quite sure what's going on, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's hard to know even where to start. That's where

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<v Speaker 2>Paul finds himself after he learns about Ali mctummitt's past.

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<v Speaker 5>I had no sources at all in Iran. I had

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<v Speaker 5>no sources at all in geopolitical world.

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<v Speaker 2>This clearly isn't a local murder case in a small

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<v Speaker 2>town anymore. Paul has been pulled into what looks like

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<v Speaker 2>a targeted assassination plot in the heart of Europe, but

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<v Speaker 2>he doesn't have any proof, just a strong theory. Ulusa

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<v Speaker 2>is looking for answers too. He posts online about the

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<v Speaker 2>case and wonders does anyone know more about Matamad or

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<v Speaker 2>how the Iranian regime might have found him? And Ulusa's

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<v Speaker 2>posts they catch Paul's attention.

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<v Speaker 1>Paul called me, I saw your questions. Let's let's talk.

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<v Speaker 5>After I broke the story, Ulus Elian and I met

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<v Speaker 5>in our mare, had coffee and we tried to make

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<v Speaker 5>plans to find the mystic pieces of the puzzle. How

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<v Speaker 5>can we get more insight in the backgrounds of this.

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<v Speaker 2>Aul the man his neighbors knew as Alimtomid moved to

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<v Speaker 2>the Netherlands in nineteen eighty five, he wouldn't have particularly

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<v Speaker 2>stood out. It was a time when many Iranians were

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<v Speaker 2>fleeing Iran, just like Ulysses father. But Alimtomid wasn't just fleeing,

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<v Speaker 2>He was hiding. He was accused of carrying out the

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<v Speaker 2>biggest terrorist attack in modern Iranian history. This is a

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<v Speaker 2>big deal this bombing in nineteen eighty one. It killed

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<v Speaker 2>a senior Ayatollah, four cabinet ministers, and reportedly dozens of

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<v Speaker 2>other top Iranian officials. Matamd fled Iran after the bombing,

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<v Speaker 2>but was found guilty in absentia and sentenced to death.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't know much about his years in the Netherlands,

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<v Speaker 2>but we do know that he adopted a new identity

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<v Speaker 2>and built a new life. He married a woman who

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<v Speaker 2>was originally from Afghanistan. They had a son, and Matamad

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<v Speaker 2>got a job at the local electric company. For years,

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<v Speaker 2>he led a simple suburban life. He went to work

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<v Speaker 2>at the same time most days. His neighbors thought of

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<v Speaker 2>him as punctual, trustworthy. No one really knew much more

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<v Speaker 2>about him, but secretly, Mahammed knew that the Iranian regime

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<v Speaker 2>was still looking for him, so he was incredibly careful. Reportedly,

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<v Speaker 2>he didn't even tell his wife his true identity until

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<v Speaker 2>a few years before his death, and his son had

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<v Speaker 2>no idea about Matummed's past. I keep thinking about the

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<v Speaker 2>loneliness and the isolation of someone who's bearing this huge

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<v Speaker 2>secret from the people in their life who they're closest to.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone who spent almost his entire adulthood trying to stay

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<v Speaker 2>one step ahead of people he knew were trying to

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<v Speaker 2>kill him. Mahammed was careful to avoid his photograph appearing

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<v Speaker 2>on social media, but not long before his murder he

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<v Speaker 2>seemed to have slipped up. A single photograph of him

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<v Speaker 2>went up on Facebook celebrating his teenage son's high school graduation,

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<v Speaker 2>and months later a BMW pulled up outside his house

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<v Speaker 2>early in the morning. So this is a story I've

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<v Speaker 2>been told to look at the murder of a man

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<v Speaker 2>living a secret life, a man on the run from

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<v Speaker 2>a powerful regime. At this point, I can't see the

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<v Speaker 2>connection between this murder and the Dubai supercartel. But then

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<v Speaker 2>a few months later, something happens that takes us one

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<v Speaker 2>step closer to understanding how all of this works. In

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<v Speaker 2>April twenty sixteen, two Irish detectives arrive at a residential

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<v Speaker 2>address not far from Dublin City Center. They have a

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<v Speaker 2>search warren because they've heard that an apartment in this

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<v Speaker 2>building is being used as a safehouse by Ireland's most

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<v Speaker 2>powerful and dangerous criminal organization. But inside there are no irishmen. Instead,

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<v Speaker 2>the officers find a short man with a large belly

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<v Speaker 2>who speaks only broken English. It's clear the man is rich.

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<v Speaker 2>He's wearing bright blue designer sneakers covered in studs. When

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<v Speaker 2>the detectives searched the flat, they find thirteen thousand euros

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<v Speaker 2>in cash and two Rolex watches. What's less clear is

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<v Speaker 2>his identity. He has two different IDs, one Dutch one Belgian,

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<v Speaker 2>each with a different name.

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<v Speaker 4>I remember the morning on which he was arrested, and

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<v Speaker 4>I can tell you nobody knew who he was.

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<v Speaker 2>Shamus Boland is Detective Chief Superintendent in the Irish Police Force.

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<v Speaker 2>His officers raided the apartment that day.

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<v Speaker 4>He was arrested for a possession of false documents and

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<v Speaker 4>there was no certainty aboute his identity at all.

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<v Speaker 2>The police take him to the station and send his

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<v Speaker 2>fingerprints and photo off to law enforcement agencies around the world.

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<v Speaker 4>It's following his arrest and US issuing an assistance request

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<v Speaker 4>across Europe that within a number of errors, the Dutch

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<v Speaker 4>police were in touch with Ustin Day identified him from

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<v Speaker 4>the photographs and fingerprints immediately, and senior Dutch police officers

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<v Speaker 4>bordered a plane immediately and flew to Dublin.

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<v Speaker 2>The Dutch police know who the man is, so does

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<v Speaker 2>Paul Vooks.

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<v Speaker 5>He was very well known and notorious in the Amsterdam

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<v Speaker 5>crime scene.

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<v Speaker 2>His name is now for Fassy and Paul calls him

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<v Speaker 2>by his nickname Noel. He's wanted for a string of

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<v Speaker 2>drug related murders.

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<v Speaker 5>He was seen as a guy would do anything for money,

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<v Speaker 5>who would be able to do very serious crimes without

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<v Speaker 5>blinking his eyes.

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<v Speaker 2>Paul doesn't know it yet and ordered the police. But

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<v Speaker 2>the man who sent two assassins to murder, Alimtamid, it

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<v Speaker 2>was no for not as a murder broker, he can

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<v Speaker 2>arrange the killing of anyone anywhere with just a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of messages sent from his phone. And the people hiding

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<v Speaker 2>the murder broker in their Dublin safe house, Shamus knows

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<v Speaker 2>exactly who they are.

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<v Speaker 4>That organized crime group has been the primary group for

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<v Speaker 4>the last twenty twenty five years that built the networks

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<v Speaker 4>supplying drugs and firearms of this jurisdiction without a dot.

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<v Speaker 2>That organized crime group, the people who are hiding the

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<v Speaker 2>murder broker in their safehouse, They're at the heart of

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<v Speaker 2>the supercartel. They're the men who gathered that day for

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<v Speaker 2>the wedding in the luxury hotel in Dubai. But if

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<v Speaker 2>Ulasa is right, this isn't just a murder, This is

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<v Speaker 2>a state sponsored assassination and it raises a big question.

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<v Speaker 5>What is the link between no Fall, the Broker and Irang.

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<v Speaker 2>Why would a hit man working with top cocaine traffickers

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<v Speaker 2>murder someone apparently on behalf of a government And if

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<v Speaker 2>that's what happened, what does that tell us about the

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<v Speaker 2>transformation of international organized crime? To find out, We're going

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<v Speaker 2>to Ireland to talk to someone who's been following the

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<v Speaker 2>family at the heart of the supercartel. From the very start, you.

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<v Speaker 6>Don't know if somebody behind that door has a gun.

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<v Speaker 6>The adrenaline is flowing, you know, your heart is racing.

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<v Speaker 6>Anything could go wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>Hot Money is a production of The Financial Times and

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<v Speaker 2>Pushkin Industries. It was written and reported by me Miles Johnson,

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<v Speaker 2>associate producer. Fact checking is by Arthur gom Jason Gambrell

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<v Speaker 2>editor is Sarah Nix, and the executive producers are Jacob

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<v Speaker 2>Goldstein and Cheryl Brumley. Special thanks to Rilla Klaff, Marshall Waroven,

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<v Speaker 2>Laura Clark, Alistair, Mackie Green Turner, Jude Webber, and rich

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<v Speaker 2>Ward