1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast. I bought too many n 2 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:10,559 Speaker 1: f T s. Welcome to another edition to the Around 3 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansis. I come 4 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: to you from a room filled with some heroes, Mark Sessler, 5 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: Patrick Claiban and Greg Rosenthal and f T. S Well, 6 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: I please nailed it. This is not a group I 7 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 1: feel like that that's true about or is overly um 8 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: invested in the n f T market. I would say, 9 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 1: is this is this call for another episode of money 10 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:44,599 Speaker 1: on money hit it Ricky? No, I don't have it. Yeah, 11 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 1: I think he would be the guy. But as as 12 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: our capitalist class becomes more intrigued by the idea, I 13 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: recognized that for fear of future consequences, maybe I should 14 00:00:55,440 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: keep my mouth shut regarding mart Smart. Yes, this is 15 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: the first post draft edition of our show. Thank you 16 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: for everybody who was loyal to the brand last week 17 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: when we rolled out with five apps and the biggest 18 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 1: of all spots. Uh. And now uh we have Claibon back, 19 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: which is great because Claibon is Claibon um. But he's 20 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: here for a specific reason because as per tradition, Greg Rosenthal, Uh, 21 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: this week is a good week to do a check 22 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 1: in on everybody, isn't it It is? We always do 23 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: the around the a f C and NFC in forty 24 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 1: eight minutes three minutes per team. At one point we 25 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:40,119 Speaker 1: changed it to two and a half minutes per team. 26 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: I think we forgot about that. I don't know where 27 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: that stands about. Claibroon is a veteran of this. I 28 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: didn't even have to tell him the rules because he's 29 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: he's been, He's done it many times for whatever reason. Yeah, 30 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: I look forward to the opportunity I got. I got 31 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: the text late night uh me a comparative two from 32 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: from Dan, and I was like, Okay, I'm ready for this. 33 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I know that when I'm hoping to get 34 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: late night text surprise text, what I wanted to be 35 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: is You're on a show tomorrow to requires a ton 36 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: of research. Get to bed, wake up early, and get 37 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:13,679 Speaker 1: your act together because we aired eleven. My favorite Mark 38 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: texts are the one that comes the ones that come 39 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 1: in like three am and it's a U R L 40 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: two St. Vincent song or something, uh that's a real 41 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: woozy banger. Three in the morning that's a little aggressive, 42 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: or like four in the morning and it's like, why 43 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: is this person tweeting this? Just me just be with 44 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: the market that you know that you can save it. 45 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 1: I don't have um sleeping patterns that match up with 46 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: a anyone in my house or most people that I know, 47 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: but I try not to break code by hitting you 48 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 1: with too many texts at four in the morning. If 49 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: that's happening too often, I need to check myself at 50 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: the door. Where are we with your your sleep cycle 51 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: right now? Because as you're saying, that is an issue 52 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: uh for you unfortunately? How many hours of sleep would 53 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: you estimate you get on average for night? A four? Mm? 54 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: Not great, it's not great, but I kind of you 55 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 1: kind of get used to it, you know. It's like 56 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: if it's six or something, Um, you feel lucky. But 57 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 1: about four, but mixed with periods of sitting alone in 58 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: the house in total alone, but total silence for another 59 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: four in between those four. It's not four in a row. So, 60 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: oh my god? Could I be more productive during that time? Yes, 61 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: I do nothing just sitting as a lot. Um. I'm 62 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: actually concerned, pretty Mark. That sucks. Well that's just the 63 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: beginning of the issues. Um. Alright, so yes, I you know, 64 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: I know we did drop down to two and a half, Greg, 65 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: but that just doesn't it doesn't have the same pop 66 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: is three nights. That was like a pre season one 67 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: or something that. Forget that nonsense. And what happens is 68 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: and it happens every year we come out of our 69 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: two draft shows and people get a little snippy that 70 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: their team didn't get the love. Well, these next two shows, 71 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: every team in NFL gets there due And by the way, 72 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: one rule that Scott was an unofficial type rule. It's 73 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:07,839 Speaker 1: like how they changed the rule with the official being 74 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: able to help out the guys on the field, the 75 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: guy in the eye and the sky. Uh, we're gonna 76 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: add three time outs if at any and and you 77 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: have to be good with time management here, it's for 78 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: the whole show. We all have to work together. If 79 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 1: you have to stop the clock for any reason, whether 80 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: you need to share something unrelated to a team or 81 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: if there's something that you really just need to get 82 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: out there. Ricky, this involves you as well call time 83 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 1: out and then um that stops the clock. I don't 84 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 1: know if we have any Andy Reid time managers here, 85 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: Like who's the best of time management in the NFL? 86 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: By the way, who's the guy that's seen as the best? 87 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: Is there somebody out there besides Greg Rosenthal? Yeah? I 88 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 1: think certainly he is up there. I think it's Belichick 89 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 1: because he's kind of free from criticism. It's like if 90 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: Bill does mess something up, then everybody's like, oh he 91 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:59,239 Speaker 1: did that for a reason. You know who's good? Good? Good? Right? Wait, 92 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: we all we each have three time outs or like 93 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 1: suddenly Greg's used burned two time outs as a team, 94 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 1: So someone someone could just jack up three time outs 95 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 1: in the first like two minutes. You're saying, I'm gonna 96 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: be honest, I'm gonna be reluctant to use the time 97 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 1: out one of you guys of it, because I would 98 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: like it to be one of the other one's faults. 99 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,919 Speaker 1: If another person doesn't get a time out together, I 100 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: will not use one. I will say that, all right, Mark, 101 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: if there were fifteen timeouts in the sexercise, that would 102 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 1: be potentially an issue. So we're just three total for 103 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 1: the five of us. Think about it, but be smart. 104 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:37,799 Speaker 1: All right. Now we're doing a f C today Thursday 105 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: NFC with another special guest. But right now, the only 106 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:43,359 Speaker 1: guest that matters is the Great Patrick Clay, but not 107 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: really a guest either, kind of an unofficial hero. Um, 108 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: let's get to it, starting with the a f C 109 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: East Ricky, you know the rules. You got to hold 110 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,919 Speaker 1: us to the clock and nobody goes beyond the three minutes. 111 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: There's an honor system here. Okay, it's about honor. Let's 112 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: start at the Buffalo Bills. Start the clock, Ricky marks session. 113 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: You know, I think the journey of the Bills is 114 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 1: super fascinating. Like two years ago, we were wondering, when 115 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: will they get past the New England Patriots Bill Belichick 116 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: and vers Shawn McDermott, When will they get over that? 117 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 1: Last year at this time, it was like, yeah, we 118 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 1: like the Bills, but half of us don't trust Josh Allen, 119 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: like he's he can't get it all done. He's an 120 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: incomplete quarterback. Yeah yeah, yeah, all right, Well he basically 121 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 1: answered all those questions. Last year the Bills were thirteen 122 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: and three, dominating everyone. Um. I thought they had a 123 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: good draft. They left a few things out there maybe 124 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: to do. But for me, these are one of these 125 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: teams where I say I would just ticket them for 126 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,359 Speaker 1: the a f C title game, barring an unforeseen disaster. 127 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: Is it that easy or can you guys, I'm looking 128 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 1: to you guys to pick out something about the Bills 129 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 1: that still concerns you or are we just completely fine 130 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: with the Bills at this point. I think the Bills 131 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 1: are locked and loaded here. I mean they they did. 132 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 1: They did the move a similar mark to your Brownies, 133 00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: where they've built up such a strong roster that they 134 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 1: were able to focus on a specific area need and 135 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: for them it was the pass rush and they go 136 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: and add Gregory Russo Russo excuse me, thirty overall Carlos 137 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: Fashion Jr. At sixty one, which people really liked. They 138 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 1: need those guys though, to step up because greg pass 139 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: rush was an issue. Yeah, they didn't have that great 140 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: ufront seven. They need their recent draft picks at Oliver 141 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: and trell Um, the Edmunds to show up and Tremaine 142 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: Edmonds rather not his not his brother on the Steelers. 143 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: They had to take those pastors because they haven't had 144 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: any juice. It kind of made them look better when 145 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: you watched in the Super Bowl what the Bucks did 146 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: to the Chief's offensive line and thought, like in Sean 147 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: mcdermot's dreams, if he had the Bills or the nineteen Bills. 148 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: Perhaps their defense wouldn't have gotten steam rolled and would 149 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: have taken advantage. Yes, Eric Fisher was on the field 150 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: for most of the game, but that's one guy. The 151 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: Bucks defense dominated throughout upfront and the Bills just didn't 152 00:07:57,640 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: have that. Right now, I'm not taking in them for 153 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: the n c JAMI because the the NFL. It is 154 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: the hardest thing to do in the NFL to back 155 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: up elite seasons, and I think that's where Josh Allen 156 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: has to um show that he's gonna maintain his games. 157 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: When you jump that high in one season, I do 158 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: want to see him do it like at that level. Again, 159 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: I don't think we can just assume that. And I 160 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: think we believe so much in the offense because of 161 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: the playmakers, right, Josh Allen is is a He's a 162 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: play waiting to happen every time. In him and Stefan 163 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: days we saw. We believe in all that, but as 164 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: you guys mentioned, it doesn't exist on the defense. And 165 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: I think in Boogie basham right, you get a solid player, 166 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: you get that Sean McDermott type, you know, hold over 167 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: from Carolina type. He's going Buggie Basham officially. By the way, 168 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: like on NFL dot com, that's the name that links 169 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 1: up now is Boogy, So he's changed cars. I love it. 170 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: It's a good name. But Russo is right, the guy 171 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: that you're looking forward, the upside guy to hopefully make 172 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: a play, because it's a Greg mentioned like if you 173 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: don't have defensive playmakers, eventually you're just like nothing's gonna happen. 174 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:02,839 Speaker 1: You just gonna lose the game three to build jump 175 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: through the table. Patrick Clayvin the Miami Dolphins, All right, 176 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: let's do it. Um the Mijaret Dolphins. I hope there's 177 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: no trouble with using this particular audio. Have gone through 178 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: a far amount of question answering this offseason. I think 179 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 1: we've seen what they prioritize. They they get Will Fuller 180 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 1: earlier on in free agency, Jalen Waddle in the draft. Um, 181 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: so they're prioritizing speed. Uh. We saw him trade down, 182 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:39,839 Speaker 1: so they believe in to Uh. We see their whole 183 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: draft strategy. But but I think there's one thing that 184 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 1: we haven't seen, um, and that's an answer to the question. 185 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: In all this discussion about TOA and the weapons and 186 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 1: the offense protection. UH, we still don't know who's gonna 187 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:54,119 Speaker 1: be calling the plays on offense in Miami like Studsville 188 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 1: and God see your co offensive coordinators floors and said 189 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: they'll develop a plan during the week. But that kind 190 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: of runs in con tryst to like the league where 191 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: it seems like the entire plane is being built out 192 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 1: of play callers and it like dictates, Uh, the entire 193 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 1: direction of regimes around the league is being dictated by 194 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,439 Speaker 1: one man calling the play. So I wanted to ask you, guys, 195 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:18,439 Speaker 1: do you think a team can without one firm voice 196 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 1: ultimately and making the decisions in play calling. Do you 197 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: think that can work? And do you think that's a 198 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: solid strategy for a young quarterback? I would say this like, 199 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: there's a reason that there's only one co offensive coordinator 200 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: set up in the NFL right now. You're in a 201 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:36,719 Speaker 1: division with Brian Dable, Josh McDaniels, Mike Lafleur. I mean, 202 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: these are three premier play callers who have completely changed 203 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 1: their teams in the quarterbacks around them, and you you 204 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 1: have you have more hope in someone like Zach Wilson 205 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: because he's attached to a Mike Lafloor offense. So Yeah, 206 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: with the Dolphins, I think that's sort of a burning 207 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: question mark. I mean, I trust coaches to be able 208 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:56,119 Speaker 1: to like organize during the week, but really what separates 209 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 1: some of these teams, Like why do we love a 210 00:10:57,720 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan Because they talked about by being one of 211 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: the best in game play callers around. It's like, do 212 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:05,559 Speaker 1: the Dolphins have that right now? We don't know. I'deer 213 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: towards no, right, I mean they It's been done before 214 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: by Florence's boss. And you know that's partly why I 215 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 1: think he's not worrying about the titles. There probably will 216 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: be a guy. I mean, Josh Boyer, who was with 217 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 1: the Dolphins was a co offensive coordinator. One of the 218 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: greatest offensives of all time. The Patriots in terms of production. 219 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: They didn't have an offensive quarter but that's Belichick and 220 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: that's Tom Brady. Like I have totally with you, Like 221 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:31,559 Speaker 1: this is a young quarterback who really is going to 222 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: be asked to do a lot. Think about these receivers 223 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:38,199 Speaker 1: Waddle Parker Fuller, those are like bombs away receivers too. 224 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: Was like a little hesitant to go down the field. 225 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 1: It's so many young players, the offensive lines young. The 226 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: receivers are young, like everyone's young on this team. And 227 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 1: you're right, that's that's a major question mark because Florence 228 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: has not found a coordinator he believes and because he 229 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: changes it every year. I'm not feeling this brand. Jolina 230 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 1: set up to the offensive coordinator in Miami, and yeah, 231 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 1: I think you need to have real struture in place, 232 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: and you got to know who's who's the bottom line 233 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: guy who's in charge of this offense, especially with a 234 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: young quarterback because this is not Tom Brady. But yeah, 235 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: I do like overall, if the Dolphins did on offense, 236 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: they really did put two in in position here to 237 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:19,559 Speaker 1: take a jump for He's got to be structure. M hm. 238 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:25,079 Speaker 1: The New England Patriots with Greg Rosenbom. Oh, yeah, I'm 239 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 1: glad I get to talk about the Patriots. You know, 240 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: what would a podcast be without the Patriots, Jets and Browns. 241 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: We guarantee they won't be on Thursday show. I it's true. 242 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: I was, you know, taken by the aggressiveness of the 243 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: rest of the draft after Mac Jones. I think that 244 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: got slept on nationally that they take Christian bar More, 245 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: they trade up for him in the second round, a 246 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 1: guy the PFF had an in their top fifteen but 247 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: was kind of an inconsistent effort guy, yet absolutely took 248 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: over in the playoffs, the National Collegiate playoffs and was 249 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:03,319 Speaker 1: probably the best player on the field defensively, you know, 250 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: in the championship. And then with their next pick, Ronnie Perkins, 251 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: the guy who was suspended, DJ had him in the 252 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: top fifty, but he falls to nineties six, maybe because 253 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: of that suspension. And then in their next pick they 254 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:16,719 Speaker 1: take another guy who was suspended half the season, who 255 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: was Ronnie perkins teammate, And it just gets me thinking, 256 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:23,199 Speaker 1: this is very much like a d G a F 257 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 1: off season for Bill Belichick. He has taken swings. I 258 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 1: think they needed it on defense. They've made so many 259 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,559 Speaker 1: changes on defense, they needed some guys that could potentially, 260 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: uh make a big difference. I think he he feels 261 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: confident in Barmer because you know, he talks to Nick 262 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: Saban about that and they're definitely like, it's the biggest 263 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: boomer Bus draft to me in the league. And I 264 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:45,959 Speaker 1: think Mac Jones is boomer Bus too. I know, like 265 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: some people think he's gonna be like a safe, safe guy. 266 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 1: I don't know, like either he's not gonna have the 267 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: skill set to do it, or you could see him 268 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 1: being the top ten quarterback. And to me that that's 269 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:59,079 Speaker 1: boomer Bus. It's a boomer Bus off season for Trevor 270 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: Lawrence is the same for prospect is coming to the 271 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 1: league in a decade and he's on to a certain 272 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:05,959 Speaker 1: degree of boom er bust guy. All these guys can 273 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: bust out. That's just you look at the history of 274 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: our league. I think the quarterback room is really interesting here. 275 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 1: Jared Stidham is obviously an afterthought now and what what 276 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: what a lot of wasted breath last year talking about 277 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: that guy. Um, best luck to him going forward. But 278 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: Matt Joe mac Jones, best of luck to the guy 279 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 1: I just assassinated. Hey, listen, they don't like him mac Jones. 280 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: That those two minutes go fast. I'm sorry for Hankins 281 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: so much. Mac Jones and Cam Newton. That feels like 282 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: a great camp battle. I wonder if Jones is going 283 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: to get a chance to win this thing in week one. 284 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: It's interesting I heard like Mike Lombardi say that Cam 285 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: Newton is your Week one starter and less Matt Jones 286 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: to the visible, to the eye of everyone on the 287 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: Patriots roster completely blew him away in camp, and I 288 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: think that's just the way you go. But you know, 289 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: it's less boom or bust when you pick Matt Jones 290 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: at fifteen versus trading up for him. I mean it 291 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: took some of the heat off of that. And I 292 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: don't agree with the d G A F aspect of 293 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick. I think he does quite a bit. Yeah, 294 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: I mean that's why they're doing all this. Yeah, if 295 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: if you're not in this to win it, right, if 296 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: you're not trying to win and making aggressive moves, then 297 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: then what's the point. And we've seen them kind of 298 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: be able to rest on the fact that they had 299 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: the greatest and the best quarterback of all time for 300 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: so long and they don't be more so they went 301 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: from one of the worst rosters in the league to 302 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: now an average one. I think I think that's what 303 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: they did this album. I think Bill R. G. A 304 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 1: s he really gives up? Was that plural? The New 305 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: York Jets. Okay, so everyone associated with the organization is 306 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: super pumped up about Zach Wilson, the Mormon Mahomes, what 307 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: have you, all that, and maybe he'll be great or 308 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: maybe he'll be bad. We'll see, and there's no there's 309 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: no sense really digging in whether you like or hate 310 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: the pick or whatever. We're got to see. We'll see 311 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: if you can play the guitar. But I do have 312 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: one issue I'm concerned about. Now. Let's look at the 313 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: five first round picks quickly. Quarterbacks. Okay, Um, we just 314 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: mentioned Mac Jones, Cam Newton's in the building there, um 315 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: justin fields, Andy Dalton's in that building. Trevor Lawrence Meanshoe 316 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: is in that building. Zack Wilson, James Morgan, and Mike White. 317 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: Should the Jets have a little bit more uh thought too? 318 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: Maybe we have a veteran guy in here and we 319 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: could ease in Zack. Or are they so excited about 320 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: this guy's potential just throw him out there and let 321 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 1: him learn on the fly. I kind of wouldn't mind 322 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: if there was somebody with a little more experience on 323 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: the depth chart. Yeah, I why I'd throw him out 324 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: there because like number two overall, I think he's got 325 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: a much better environment around him than I understand. Maybe 326 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: your Jets fan um minor panic over the idea of that, um, 327 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 1: but this is a different situation than previous Jets quarterbacks. 328 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: He's got a lot more help around him. I trust 329 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: the coaching staff. I think it's one of these situations 330 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: where you're you're you're gonna put him on the bench 331 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: behind like a Joe Flacco three point oh. I mean, 332 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: they're gonna want to see him by the end of 333 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: the first game, Jets fans and be going crazy. Everything's changed. 334 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 1: I roll with him from day one. I haven't seen 335 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 1: any evidence to the number of years that I've I've 336 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 1: felt this way that somebody can get better by not 337 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:13,919 Speaker 1: doing something like I I just don't think that it 338 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: works out. Perhaps right, Jet's faithful would lose faith in 339 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: Zach Wilson if they see him play poorly. That doesn't 340 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 1: have anything to do with the quality of the football player. 341 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:24,400 Speaker 1: I think if you want him to be good at football, 342 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 1: then he needs to play. Let me give you an example. 343 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 1: I'll give you an example. Last year to A was 344 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 1: a little bit underwater, and the coaching staff said, we 345 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: have this backup, Ryan Fitzpatrick that we like, we're gonna 346 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: let this kid sit. We're gonna keep Fitzpatrick in the mix, 347 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: give him a chance to play, keep us in a 348 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: season if they're contending and then too what can learn 349 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 1: and maybe grow from it. That probably is not gonna 350 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 1: be the case here. If Wilson struggles as a rookie 351 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 1: and that can happen, those guys aren't out there now, 352 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: so it's too late. They I'm with you, they could. 353 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:57,880 Speaker 1: They could upgrade their backup quarterback position, like it wouldn't 354 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 1: hurt to sign Matt Barkley. I was just at the 355 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 1: free agent quarterck just like someone better than those two 356 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: guys in case Zach Wilson gets injured and maybe can 357 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: give him some pointers about you know which clubs to 358 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:12,640 Speaker 1: go to in New York or whatever. But that's about it. Yeah, 359 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 1: I should mention also Trey Lance and Jimmy Garoppolo. So 360 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,880 Speaker 1: every one of these rookies coming in has an established guy. 361 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 1: The Jets are an outlier. I don't like when the 362 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: Jets are an outlier because usually that means they're doing 363 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 1: something wrong. I don't think that if we're using the 364 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,640 Speaker 1: two example that TOA is a better football player if 365 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: he didn't play last I just might be better being 366 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: around Fitzpatrick, though, I do think there's something there, like 367 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 1: Minshew is not helping out Trevor Lawrence in the same 368 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 1: way that having a guy that's been around for so 369 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 1: loanda yea. The a f C North begins with Mark 370 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: Sessler and the Cincinnati Bengals. All right, Look, so a 371 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:51,640 Speaker 1: lot of people talk about you need to know who 372 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 1: you are. We need to know who you are by 373 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: year three of a program. And I'll just look at 374 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:57,880 Speaker 1: the inside the a f C North three years into 375 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 1: his reign, like Tomlin had already won a Super Bowl, Okay, 376 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: John Harbor was thirty two and sixteen as Baltimore's coach. 377 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski one year in takes the Browns to the 378 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: playoffs for the first time in like a thousand eons. So, 379 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: I mean, you want to see results, It's not it's 380 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: not too much to ask. I look at Zach Taylor 381 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 1: in Cincinnati. He had a tough situation out of the gate. Um. 382 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 1: I think the two years he's been there, they have 383 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:21,360 Speaker 1: been ravaged by injuries. You lost your quarterback. Everything goes 384 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 1: south at that point. But right now, look at this offense, 385 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, Joe Mixon, Jamaar, Chase te Higgins, Tyler Boyd 386 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 1: right on defense, DJ Reader, They're gonna get a full 387 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: season from him. Trey Hendrickson, this is a pretty interesting, 388 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: good roster that's just ticketed for fourth place because they're 389 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: in the a f C North. UM. I look at 390 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 1: this team and think if they were in the a 391 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 1: f C South, you wonder if they could compete for 392 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: a division title if Burrow is who you think he is, 393 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:51,199 Speaker 1: and I we saw evidence of that. So what is 394 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:54,679 Speaker 1: an appropriate um when you look at Zach Taylor? An 395 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: appropriate asked for this year? It can they go like 396 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: a soft five and twelve and no one says anything 397 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:01,959 Speaker 1: about it? I think the the it needs to be higher. 398 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 1: We need to see results because again we're three years 399 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 1: into this experiment with someone who was ticketed as someone 400 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 1: to come in and be kind of a Seawan McVeigh 401 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: for the Bengals. Not happen yet. Yes, six or seven 402 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 1: wins I think is fair. I think if Joe Burrow 403 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: is bawling out and the offense is good, that's all 404 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 1: Zach Taylor needs. The the defense they've been rolling out 405 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,880 Speaker 1: lou on a room, oh every year. No one even 406 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: knows this guy that defends the coordinator. It hasn't played well. 407 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 1: They're okay, they've got right, they've got okay personnel. I 408 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 1: wouldn't say they're average even personnel. So I think Burrow 409 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: is the biggest question. I think people are just expecting him. 410 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: It's like to make a leap when you're coming off 411 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 1: a torn a c L. And he was a little 412 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:45,199 Speaker 1: up and down because the situation was tougher than I 413 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: think people realize. Because he made a lot of splash 414 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 1: plays and showed a lot of potential. That's not easy. 415 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 1: He's coming off a torn a c L. And if 416 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 1: he struggles a little bit, then that the heat's gonna 417 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: go on Taylor And I was one of the course 418 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: of people that said take the offensive line and take 419 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: the stul this or can study it and and protect 420 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow. But ultimately, how mad can you get if 421 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 1: you end up with Jamaar Chase Um this l s 422 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,400 Speaker 1: U guy who could be a superstar and could put 423 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,159 Speaker 1: up video game numbers for ten years. And by the way, 424 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,479 Speaker 1: to Greg's point, according to next Gens stats, Cincinnati had 425 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: just fifteen completions of twenty or more air yards last 426 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 1: year that ranked in the NFL. Burrow, of course, got 427 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 1: hurt and missed the last five or so weeks. But 428 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: they weren't lighting it up downfield with Burrow either, that's 429 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: gonna help. So this is a team and I'm with you, Mark, 430 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 1: You're big point, which is we need to see progress 431 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:40,159 Speaker 1: for this from this coaching regime. And there's questions right 432 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 1: about that deep passing, whether that's Joe Burrow's arm or 433 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 1: whether that's the offense or the circumstances. But I think 434 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 1: right Greg mitchen la Rumo, they couldn't find anybody to 435 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 1: be in the defensive cordat or just wound up their 436 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: seven choice. Yeah, and and they've they've been terrible for 437 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: three That speaks to the idea of hiring a coach 438 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: that has actions, which the Bengals coach did not. All Right, 439 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 1: grow out a beard called time out, grow out the 440 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: beard made if you want to if you want to be, 441 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 1: if you really want to establish yourself, if you feel 442 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,160 Speaker 1: like you're no name uh in the coordinator ranks, change 443 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: your look and and do if if you kind of 444 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: your name sounds like Captain Lou Albano, and most of 445 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: America at this point is too young to know who 446 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: he was. Just steal Lou Albano's bit. Rest in peace, 447 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 1: grow out the beard punch, put a bunch of rubber 448 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: bands into it, and uh it, guess what the camera's 449 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 1: gonna find you. I think that was an appropriate use 450 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,439 Speaker 1: of a time out because if lou on Aamo slash 451 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:41,360 Speaker 1: Albano is uh watching or listening to this, you've you've 452 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:43,199 Speaker 1: changed the course of his career. If you were to 453 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 1: take your advice, it's the only way he moves out 454 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 1: of total anonymity um into someone that becomes sort of 455 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: a cultural flash points. I thought I thought Dan had 456 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,640 Speaker 1: pre planned bits for the time out, so I wasn't 457 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: gonna take him either, So of course out this is 458 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: just just flying. I don't Greg, I don't do pre 459 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:03,199 Speaker 1: planned bits on ever. Um. Cindy Lauper, who was one 460 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 1: of the biggest pop stars of the eighties, that's Captain 461 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: lew got into her video for girls Just want to 462 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: have Fun. We could get the Bengals d C into 463 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: like a Billie Eilish single video. If he plays his 464 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: cards all right, just put some rubber bands natural between 465 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 1: that coach and that performer. I just I see a 466 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: lot of linkage alright, time in. I love the investment 467 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: in the time out. That's incredible. Cleveland Browns, Patrick Clevan, Yes, uh, 468 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 1: the Browns Spectacular. I was honored to, uh to actually 469 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 1: voice the weather warning videos for the NFL experience this 470 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:43,919 Speaker 1: year at the draft. So it was rewarding to know 471 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:45,640 Speaker 1: that the people of Cleveland, if they were to take 472 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: shelter due to some sort of like lake effect calamity, 473 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: it would be my voice leading them the way. There's 474 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: other column voices. Yeah, we had hurricanes to meteors anyway, 475 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: there's like other calming voices in Andrew Berry and Kevin Stefanski. 476 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 1: Thanks in part large people like did did Obama just 477 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:09,360 Speaker 1: tell us to seek shelter shelter? Um? But yeah, like 478 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 1: thanks to some hold over picks from the previous regime, right, 479 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 1: and these two men, like they weren't even picking until 480 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 1: twenty last week, and the pickles were the picks were 481 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:21,919 Speaker 1: universally appreciated, right, And so there's so much faith in 482 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: the brain trust. But they just picked up the fifth 483 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,199 Speaker 1: year option for Baker Mayfield. And we live in a 484 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: world where people believe in this concept of quarterback wins. 485 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 1: And I wonder who's best for the long term livelihood 486 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,919 Speaker 1: if you had to choose of this Brown's rebirth Baker 487 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 1: Mayfield or the brain trust in Cleveland. Oh wow, Mark, 488 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: I mean, look at I think Baker Mayfield has been 489 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,640 Speaker 1: a good quarterback. But if you take away the brain 490 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 1: trust and what Andrew Berry has done. UM and Kevin Stefanski, 491 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 1: I mean, you know Jet, you bring up the Jets 492 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 1: Stan and like concern about how to deal with a 493 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 1: young quarterback. I mean, Brown's fans have watched terrible game 494 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 1: day coaching for twenty plus years. UM, And typically a 495 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 1: coach that's like in fighting with the general manager, who 496 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 1: also is not good at making picks on draft days. 497 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 1: So you know, I I can see the tangible difference 498 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 1: between what was and what is, and I would have 499 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 1: to side with management. UM. I would just because like 500 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 1: to find a good coach in general manager to get along. 501 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 1: That's your ticket, that's invaluable. It's not a knock on 502 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, but if you're asking me to pick between 503 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 1: one or the other, you don't remove all that infrastructure. 504 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 1: Can I throw something out just as random and dumb 505 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 1: and fun? Uh? Packers asked for three first round picks 506 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 1: and Baker for Aaron Rodgers d take it one note? 507 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I would you Aaron Rodgers is so 508 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 1: much better. And you just said you trust the management. 509 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: The management's gonna know how to use those picks. I 510 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 1: think Patrick right got to where we were where we 511 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,360 Speaker 1: are with with Paker Mayfield at this point in time. 512 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: So it's a good way to get there, which is, 513 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: you know, he maybe is more of a function of 514 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 1: the offense in the management because most great quarterbacks you 515 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,719 Speaker 1: would never say management, you know, you just wouldn't. And 516 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,400 Speaker 1: for right now, because of what Stefanski did, I trust 517 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 1: it because Baker in this team thought they were hot stuff. 518 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: The last time they finished strong, when they finished seven 519 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 1: and eight, they did not handle that hype. Well, we'll 520 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:19,439 Speaker 1: see how they do it this time. I think because 521 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 1: the the Andrew Berry's there, you have more faith in it. 522 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: I mean, like maybe I would do that trade. It's 523 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:25,880 Speaker 1: just like I don't want it everything to be turned 524 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 1: into this like Baker Mayfields the problem. He was actually 525 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 1: quite good for them last year. And I'm with you. 526 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 1: I think Browns are gonna be awesome. It's gonna be fun. 527 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: We'll see the Baltimore. The Ravens are so good at 528 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,959 Speaker 1: like working their rookies and slowly not needing them right away, 529 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 1: and I don't I don't know if they can afford 530 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 1: to do that. This year they draft for Shot Bateman, 531 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,199 Speaker 1: I feel like he has to play right away. Uh, 532 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: they drafted Huda fee oh way Um whose name was Jason, 533 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: So if any confusion, they're the number thirty one, and 534 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,239 Speaker 1: like they've been in the middle of the pack in 535 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,439 Speaker 1: terms of sacks and back to back years, they definitely 536 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 1: haven't had juice on the outside. I'm not counting on 537 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins to give Lamar kind of what he needs, 538 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 1: So I like, I feel like these guys got to 539 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 1: play right away. They don't have any great looking pass 540 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:23,919 Speaker 1: rushers with Bateman. You're the biggest Lamar fan in the room, Clay, Like, 541 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,239 Speaker 1: do you think they give they gave Lamar enough this 542 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 1: off season. Yeah, it's the fact that they get somebody 543 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 1: who can track a ball in the air and make 544 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 1: a play on it. I love that. I love that 545 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,640 Speaker 1: that's Lamar. We were we ran uh during some discussion 546 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: because Bucky Brooks are brought up this absurd idea that 547 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,119 Speaker 1: the Ravens would give up on Lamar and you know, 548 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,400 Speaker 1: go college plan for for quarterbacks and just keep rotating them. 549 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: And I pointed out that during the highlights, he's throwing 550 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: to Dez Bryant's corps as well as like Brandon Boykin's, 551 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,640 Speaker 1: Like if that's the if that's the receiver highlights, then 552 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,919 Speaker 1: then perhaps hey, good luck to whoever that that up 553 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 1: and coming quarterback is. But yeah, I mean I know 554 00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: that heard you to say because you were a dead 555 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 1: guy back in the day too, that yeah, well now 556 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:08,159 Speaker 1: he's dead, um. But but yeah, it's uh. If I 557 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 1: wouldn't say that if he didn't have some some horrible 558 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 1: tweets here in the past few years. But but honestly, 559 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 1: like it's uh, I believe in it because I believe 560 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 1: in Lamar, and so give him somebody that can make 561 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: a play on the football and run to it when 562 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,160 Speaker 1: it's in the air and also snapped Lamar of the ball. 563 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 1: I think that would help a lot. I think it's 564 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 1: It's notable that Greg Roman was on record saying that 565 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 1: with Bateman there and the other wide out they took 566 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 1: like we can expand our passing game like that. And 567 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: I don't think you're gonna get this Ravens team that 568 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,479 Speaker 1: changes drastically on offense. If you looked at who they 569 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,639 Speaker 1: drafted I mean, it's more power, it's more run, it's 570 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: all that stuff. But I mean Roman at least understands 571 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 1: that you can't do what happened last year over and over. 572 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: They've got to expand the air attack. And I think 573 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: Bateman was a perfect pick for them. And they were 574 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 1: repeatedly rebuffed in free agency and their attempts to upgrade 575 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: at wide receivers. So I like that they said, Okay, 576 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 1: we're gonna take control of this process using the draft 577 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 1: to do that. And we had an eight types on 578 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 1: on our show a couple of weeks back. He was 579 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: singing rashod Bateman's praises. Um, even though a lot of 580 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: moks didn't have him in the first round, Um, the 581 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: Ravens saw value there, and then Thyland Wallace at in 582 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 1: round four. Uh, he's in the mix there as well. 583 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 1: It's unbelievable, um that they had one thousand, seven twenty 584 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 1: nine yards on passes to wide receiver in that just 585 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 1: gotta be better. I mean, I don't know, if you 586 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 1: you can't win the Super Bowl unless Sammy could happens, maybe, 587 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: but it's a Bateman is such an important pick for them, 588 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 1: and it was such a no brainer because you just 589 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 1: can't trust Sammy Watkins. He just can't stand the field. 590 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 1: And Greg Rome embarrasson him in this as well. Sure, 591 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: I think he gives a universal credit for his other 592 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:49,479 Speaker 1: talented quarterback, but at some point maybe it's you, Yeah, reminder, 593 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: we have two timeouts remaining. I think there's distinct pressure 594 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 1: on the three of us now who are not dan 595 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 1: to know when and how to use the time out. 596 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: But well, we're all working together, all right. Next Greg Rosenthal. 597 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 1: Next the old Zeuser Pittsburgh Steelers. Okay um, a bit 598 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 1: of a high wire act here in Pittsburgh. Huh. I 599 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 1: was saying that they should seriously consider getting that quarterback mix, 600 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 1: which is not a quote unquote Steelers thing to do, 601 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 1: and two type they didn't do that. They go and 602 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 1: get Naji Harris at running back and maybe he's a 603 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: star and that would be good for the offense. But 604 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 1: this just feels like the Steelers are a circus act 605 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 1: on a high wire with a old quarterback that showed 606 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 1: signs of slippage slash falling off a cliff late last season, 607 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 1: and then an offensive line that continues to loom as 608 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 1: a question marks. They didn't hit that hard either are 609 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 1: the Steelers the biggest boom or bust property in the 610 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 1: a f C. I'll buy that because they're so thin 611 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 1: that the like the premium positions. They are not an 612 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 1: analyt type of team. You look at their tackles, it's 613 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 1: a Coora for right now, k core for and and 614 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 1: Zach Banner. Are there two tackles their cornerbacks, I would say, 615 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 1: are the next thinnest position on their team, and like 616 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 1: those are the premium positions. Those are the ones that's like, 617 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,479 Speaker 1: use your draft capital on that, and they don't have 618 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 1: it right now. They're and they're putting a lot of 619 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 1: faith in those two tackles and probably a starting rookie 620 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 1: center for a team that has not coached up the 621 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 1: offensive line well since Mike Munchak left a couple of 622 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 1: years ago. I mean, like an ali Jandro Villaneuvas signed 623 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 1: with the Ravens and it's like their old tackle is 624 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 1: going and filling holes for their biggest rivals. So it's 625 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 1: you know, that's problematic. I think the boom or bust 626 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 1: aspect too, is like was the Big Bend fall off 627 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 1: a cliff act? Like something that was a bit of 628 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 1: an admiration. You can still play and we're gonna get 629 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,479 Speaker 1: a fresh version of him or not? Or does that 630 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: decline continue? Um, which means by week eight you're in 631 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 1: hot water. I mean, the one thing I would say 632 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 1: that Naji Harris their scouts saying he is the most 633 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 1: complete back they've had under Mike Tomlin, and they said 634 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 1: more than Levian Bell. So I get that you'd want 635 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 1: to have the offensive line stronger, but like, does any 636 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 1: remember Levian Bell at his peak? Was there a more 637 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 1: complete back that I would put him in the top 638 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 1: three running back to the last twenty years in terms 639 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: of at his peak, just seeing it's difficult to to 640 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 1: get that camp for Nagy right because at six two 641 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 1: six three, at that size is moving with his feet right. 642 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 1: Levian is the closest thing you can get to right 643 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 1: in terms of a guy catching passes out of the 644 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: backfield that can run in between the tackles. Um. I 645 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 1: think like maybe maybe we're looking at this as the 646 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 1: the end of last season is heavily influencing the way 647 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 1: we feel about Pittsburgh and not necessarily the start. But 648 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 1: for me, as much as I believe in guys coming 649 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 1: back from injury and and getting a full chance to 650 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 1: be healthy. It's hard to do that thirty eight and 651 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: thirty nine years old, and I can't see things getting 652 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 1: any better. Uh. I mean this, but imagine if Joe 653 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 1: Burrow had the weapon and Ratsburg had We've been talking 654 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 1: up like how talented this group is. They have so 655 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,719 Speaker 1: many good players. Bengals are getting close, but yeah, Steelers 656 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 1: feel like they're either gonna be eleven and six or 657 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 1: six and eleven. Fair, all right, we are rolling bulls. 658 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 1: Halfway through. Mark gets going with the Indianapolis Cults as 659 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 1: when we begin the a f C s all right, 660 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 1: you know, I know, like the Broncos are getting killed 661 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 1: for not um picking a quarterback. And we can get 662 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,959 Speaker 1: into that down the road. But I look at the 663 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 1: Cults and I asked myself coming out of the draft, 664 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 1: like is this team better than they were a year ago? 665 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 1: And like, are the cults being treated a little too 666 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 1: lightly for a ignoring tackle in the draft. We're killing 667 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,479 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh for that. Um, the Colts didn't feel that they 668 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 1: have a huge issue there a burnie need and also 669 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 1: showing um immense faith in Carson Wentz. I have to 670 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 1: ask if this is quietly the riskiest maneuver of any 671 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 1: by any team in the a f C this offseason. 672 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 1: After what we saw from Carson Wentz last year. It's, oh, 673 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 1: you know, Frank Reich knows him. There's a good relationship. 674 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 1: That's all nice in theory, But there's a lot of 675 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,399 Speaker 1: tape that suggests Carson Wentz was a disturbed quarterback last 676 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 1: year in a lot of ways. But do we have 677 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,279 Speaker 1: any Wentz heads here that are saying, you shut up? 678 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 1: I totally have faith in this. We're gonna get the 679 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 1: old version of Wentz back in Indy. First of all, 680 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 1: call Carson Wentz disturbed last year. I love that. Uh. 681 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 1: Second of all, oh, there's always been a little heat 682 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,839 Speaker 1: with Cessler and Carson Wentz because the way back when 683 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 1: with the Draft and the Browns, I've always enjoyed that. Um. 684 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 1: Third of all, all right, I'll be a little bit 685 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 1: of a Wentz head here. We we have said for 686 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 1: a couple of years now that Frank Reich was this 687 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 1: this magical figure in Philadelphia and once he left things changed. Uh. Well, 688 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:50,760 Speaker 1: now he's reunited with Frank Reich in Indianapolis, and Chris Ballard, 689 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,840 Speaker 1: the general manager, to me, has earned the benefit of 690 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 1: the doubt. Um, these two guys, Reich and Ballard there. 691 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 1: They've had this organization going in the right direction for 692 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,760 Speaker 1: years now, and that's why I don't see this going terribly. 693 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 1: I think they're just too smart, uh and they're just 694 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 1: too locked in place as a football men for this 695 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 1: thing to really go south. Does that mean it won't know? 696 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 1: But to me, they get the benefit of the doubt. 697 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 1: You guys agree, I think Mark you you hit it 698 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,720 Speaker 1: when you mentioned the risk. But my question is who's 699 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 1: taking the risk because in this quarterback centric world, I 700 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 1: don't think Ballard suffers consequences if there's this Winds explosion. 701 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 1: I don't think it's right. Because Dan said, like people 702 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 1: believe in Frank Rock and they think it was the 703 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 1: reasons they won the Super Bowl. They kind of get 704 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,359 Speaker 1: a free experiment here. The only person taking any risk 705 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 1: is Carson Wentz because if it doesn't work out, then 706 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,319 Speaker 1: it's like, oh, well, I guess he's he's done. So 707 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,360 Speaker 1: like you could, yeah, you could also argue that Andrew 708 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,319 Speaker 1: Luck put them in all in this situation to some 709 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:46,279 Speaker 1: degree to but you're I agree, but you're also potentially 710 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,800 Speaker 1: wasting a good roster. I think it is the biggest 711 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 1: risk any team took. I think it's the most confounding 712 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 1: decision of the off season. Maybe they bring in Charles Leno, 713 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,280 Speaker 1: who just got cut by the Bears. You know, their 714 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 1: tackles might become available. You would think they're not going 715 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 1: to go into the season with Sam Dewie. I'm much 716 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,399 Speaker 1: more concerned about Carson Wentz than I am about their 717 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 1: left tackles. Man, is that nobody Wentz was so good 718 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen. Is that that's just that's not even 719 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:17,720 Speaker 1: a factory. Just one bad year. It's been a minute 720 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 1: and four. You didn't think I think? Am? I? Am? 721 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,400 Speaker 1: I getting my years confused there? Now you did? He's fine, 722 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:34,720 Speaker 1: He's fine. All right, I'm the wein said let's move on. Yeah, 723 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans, Patrick Laybyn. They get arguably the best 724 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,320 Speaker 1: corner in the in the draft per Charlie Cast release 725 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,880 Speaker 1: polling UH from last fall, right before Caleb Farley had 726 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,080 Speaker 1: the back surgery and the COVID and everything went bad 727 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 1: for the draft. Um, and I think you see why 728 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,279 Speaker 1: that they went corner. The defense was really bad. They 729 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 1: had some departures as well. But Derrick Henry that transcendent season, 730 00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,360 Speaker 1: He's he's averaging almost five and a half yards per 731 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 1: carry lash year. Tannehill was good. A J. Brown was good. Right, 732 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,719 Speaker 1: So Art Smith goes to Atlanta. They don't take an 733 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:09,719 Speaker 1: offensive skill position into the fourth round. But on the 734 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball, you know, Bud Dupree comes over. 735 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,320 Speaker 1: They've got all these guys they've drafted, and I've started 736 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 1: to wonder again as I looked through year after year 737 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,319 Speaker 1: in the Verbel era, the defense is worse than it 738 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 1: was the previous year. When do we start to wonder 739 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,800 Speaker 1: if Mike Vrabel is the problem well with regards to 740 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,759 Speaker 1: the defense in Tennessee, Well, I don't. I don't think 741 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 1: he's shown to be a very good defensive coach. The 742 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,360 Speaker 1: Texans also had one of the worst defenses in the 743 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,920 Speaker 1: NFL when he was their coordinator before he got the 744 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 1: head coaching job. Like yet, it's not about if it's 745 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,000 Speaker 1: not his scheme isn't gonna save you. We've we've seen 746 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,719 Speaker 1: that maybe the talent hasn't been great either. There there 747 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 1: the team, I hate to say it, Titans fans like 748 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:47,400 Speaker 1: if I had to pick up playoff team from a 749 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,840 Speaker 1: year ago, that would fall off a cliff Here it 750 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:53,319 Speaker 1: is because I just don't see the position group on 751 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 1: this team where I look at it and say, there's 752 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,080 Speaker 1: our edge, there's where we're good. Where is where is 753 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,279 Speaker 1: that for Tennessee? Other than Henry, I think you're if 754 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,040 Speaker 1: you're Todd downing the new play call or you're you're 755 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,440 Speaker 1: in a tough spot because you don't have the tools 756 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,759 Speaker 1: that Art Smith had. And you know, I look at 757 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,400 Speaker 1: the wide receiver position. The tight end position is a 758 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,520 Speaker 1: total mess right now. Um, I would pig the peg 759 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,840 Speaker 1: them as a team that maybe would go look at O. J. 760 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,439 Speaker 1: Howard and say, we need to find a more game 761 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 1: changing tight end in this. But I like Frabel um 762 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 1: overall as head coach. I think he's given We used 763 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,359 Speaker 1: to kill the Titans for having no identity, the Titoons, 764 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,839 Speaker 1: we called them. They haven't been that under Rabel. There's 765 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:34,439 Speaker 1: something about his presence. Well, okay, except for Greg, who 766 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 1: please the ultra classy Greg refused to to put that 767 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 1: moniker on. Then Frabel has given them an article about 768 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:51,200 Speaker 1: that Greg one who was legitimized. They did USA today 769 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 1: ahead Mark. Sorry, no, I'm I I just thumbs up 770 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,279 Speaker 1: on Rabel because they've been a good team. But you know, 771 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,439 Speaker 1: in terms of defensive difference maker. It's a fair point. 772 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 1: That's fair and and I think what you're saying to 773 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:06,280 Speaker 1: Greg is fair about the offense doesn't take a step back, 774 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 1: do we if it's still a team with Derrick Henry 775 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,959 Speaker 1: and A. J. Brown and Ryan Tannehill unless we buy 776 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,759 Speaker 1: into the theory, well, it's still not trust Tannehill because 777 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 1: Arthur Smith's gun. Maybe he takes a step back. Because 778 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 1: if he doesn't, I still feel like this team's gonna 779 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:22,799 Speaker 1: score a lot of points. And if the defense gets 780 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 1: even a tick better, I still see it as a 781 00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:28,799 Speaker 1: double digit win team. I don't. And yeah, that's a 782 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,200 Speaker 1: fair point on Tannhell. Maybe that's where the edges. But 783 00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,719 Speaker 1: he almost has to take a step back. Numbers. You 784 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:35,680 Speaker 1: just look at the numbers. He's been a top five 785 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 1: quarterback the last two years. Unless he actually was all 786 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:48,759 Speaker 1: along and he got gaged. Adam Gaze, where are you? Adam? Game? 787 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,719 Speaker 1: Time out? Time out? Where's that in there? We go? 788 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:55,360 Speaker 1: Do you think do you think Adam Gaze is even 789 00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:58,799 Speaker 1: trying to get work right now or do you think 790 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,520 Speaker 1: he's just like I'm just well, he's getting he's getting 791 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 1: Jets money still and it's it's significant. Why would he 792 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:08,440 Speaker 1: try to get work? Like, what about Adam Gates's recent 793 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,720 Speaker 1: career suggest he he has to try to do anything. 794 00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:14,520 Speaker 1: You think, Yeah, he's just gonna have to wait, sit around, 795 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:16,600 Speaker 1: and then eventually Adam Gates will be back in this 796 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 1: league and probably head coach of a football team. WHOA, 797 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,880 Speaker 1: now that I've been I've been watching this this planet 798 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:27,400 Speaker 1: for too long. As certain as the tides in the 799 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 1: moment is right in this in this area. And it's 800 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 1: unfortunate and it's it's an issue for the NFL that 801 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:39,200 Speaker 1: some guys get chances over and over while other people 802 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,600 Speaker 1: don't get the opportunities they deserve. But I would think 803 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:44,480 Speaker 1: a two time and this is a little harsh, but 804 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,239 Speaker 1: two time loser in Miami and New York at a 805 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,719 Speaker 1: high level, I mean in plouting imploading at a high 806 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,839 Speaker 1: level in his most recent stop stop. I don't think 807 00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:54,919 Speaker 1: he gets another head coaching job, but he'll probably show 808 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:59,040 Speaker 1: up as like a offensive quality control guy in Jacksonville 809 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:02,600 Speaker 1: or something actually into the head coach after after he 810 00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:06,880 Speaker 1: spends the off season, you know, reading PFF and you know, 811 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,759 Speaker 1: hanging out with other former fired coaches. I mean, my one. 812 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:14,200 Speaker 1: My one concern would be conra or once painted very meticulously. 813 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,239 Speaker 1: The concept um, you know, it's a bit of a 814 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,640 Speaker 1: conspiracy theory, but it starts to have legs that the 815 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:23,359 Speaker 1: Manning family is essentially run Pro football for decades, and 816 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,160 Speaker 1: so who's Adam Gates is like best pal. Peyton Manning 817 00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,359 Speaker 1: gets on the phone with some sort of New Week 818 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,720 Speaker 1: is shown or just says you're gonna hi my frand 819 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,560 Speaker 1: and then like suddenly Adam Gates says another head coaching 820 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:37,239 Speaker 1: that my voice over time, you're gonna hire on my 821 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,279 Speaker 1: frand like that's a Peyton Manning voice. Doesn't sound like 822 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:43,640 Speaker 1: him at all. It's like it's very sassy Peyton man Well, 823 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,480 Speaker 1: he's very agitated and annoyed. He doesn't like being attached 824 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:50,400 Speaker 1: to someone who's pr you know, Q rating is not 825 00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,560 Speaker 1: nos dives. So he's Peyton Manning needs to get him 826 00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,240 Speaker 1: a job to help. This whole thing was that Peyton 827 00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:59,479 Speaker 1: Manning or Delta Burke. I think I think a little 828 00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,800 Speaker 1: bit of Delta are gonna the ESPN original film Junction Boys, 829 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,719 Speaker 1: where they took they made the Bear Bryant a Kentucky movie, 830 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:07,880 Speaker 1: and they hired a bunch of Australians to play football 831 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,680 Speaker 1: players and they did Southern accellence. That's what that's what 832 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:15,920 Speaker 1: I heard, that capabilities. And before we come back from 833 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,000 Speaker 1: our time out here, remember i'm out of the time. 834 00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:19,919 Speaker 1: I've used two time outs. I won't use the third. 835 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,960 Speaker 1: But if you go into the tunnel without using all 836 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,880 Speaker 1: your time outs, you're a joke. Okay, just keep that 837 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:29,560 Speaker 1: in mind. What they've ever complained about coaches not using 838 00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:32,239 Speaker 1: their time outs, it's always a delight. I'm always like, 839 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,240 Speaker 1: I'm always at the when they get to an NBA 840 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,399 Speaker 1: game at the end and there's like three timeouts left 841 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,560 Speaker 1: for each team, which never happens, but every once in 842 00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,800 Speaker 1: a while, I'm like, thank you. And also my family, 843 00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,080 Speaker 1: who are you pegging it on? There's four of us 844 00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:45,919 Speaker 1: to could call time out outside of dance, so if 845 00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,400 Speaker 1: if one doesn't get called, I'll just deflect the critics 846 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:52,319 Speaker 1: criticism towards Greg towards Claybourne, probably towards Ricky. Very fact, 847 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,640 Speaker 1: how many times have you heard Chris Collins where there's 848 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,560 Speaker 1: someone come after a coach, oh man and they and 849 00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:00,680 Speaker 1: they're unable to stop the clock and they go into 850 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:04,040 Speaker 1: the tunnel with timeouts in their pocket. This is Delta Burke. 851 00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:10,200 Speaker 1: All right, let's let's time back in here and uh 852 00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:14,719 Speaker 1: up next the Houston Texans. I just want to point 853 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,279 Speaker 1: out how strange this team is. There's been, you know, 854 00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,560 Speaker 1: an understandable amount of focus on Deshaun Watson situation in 855 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,480 Speaker 1: the front office, and I'm not having a draft pick 856 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,400 Speaker 1: till Davis Mills. Uh. I don't know if people know this. 857 00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,520 Speaker 1: Philip Lindsay is on this team. Their backfield right now 858 00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:33,640 Speaker 1: is David Johnson, mark Ingram and Philip Lindsay. That's weird. Uh. 859 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:38,640 Speaker 1: The receivers, Brandon Cooks, Randall Cobb, Andre Roberts. Did you 860 00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,759 Speaker 1: guys know Lovey Smith is back in the NFL and 861 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,719 Speaker 1: he is the defensive coordinator of the Texans. I know 862 00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,840 Speaker 1: this room knows this, but I feel like the fans 863 00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:49,600 Speaker 1: out there they don't know all these facts. This is 864 00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:54,880 Speaker 1: just a very strange theme we're gonna be watching here. Yeah. 865 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:59,239 Speaker 1: You know what's interesting. They they're they're famous for, you know, 866 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:04,560 Speaker 1: being asset poor, um and now talent deficient and the 867 00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:09,400 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson mess which changes changes everything. Um. I guess 868 00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,319 Speaker 1: this makes sense if Watson doesn't end up playing for them. 869 00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,600 Speaker 1: One way, or the other to just go in the 870 00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:19,120 Speaker 1: tank right and and get back into uh positive draft standing, 871 00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,520 Speaker 1: Like I think they start getting first round picks back 872 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:25,879 Speaker 1: again next year, right that the Tunsil deal finally tolls there. Um, 873 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:29,359 Speaker 1: this feels like a team that is ready to tear 874 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,000 Speaker 1: it all down. And that's tough for Houston fans because 875 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:33,960 Speaker 1: you thought you were going in a certain direction with 876 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,879 Speaker 1: the Shaun Watson. But it feels like it makes more 877 00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:38,799 Speaker 1: sense now to strip the whole thing down. I mean 878 00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:42,239 Speaker 1: the unintentional tank, which is the normal way teams quote 879 00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,799 Speaker 1: unquote tank. They didn't mean to be the worst team 880 00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:46,480 Speaker 1: in league. They're just that's how they got. That's how 881 00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,920 Speaker 1: they got. Even when they had Watson and J. J. Watton, 882 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,040 Speaker 1: you know, they always felt a little top heavy. I mean, 883 00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:52,799 Speaker 1: how many years did we talk about them as a 884 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,000 Speaker 1: team that, you know, before the seventeen games could have 885 00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,240 Speaker 1: gone five and eleven or eleven and five, and Watson 886 00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,960 Speaker 1: made such a difference. But it is an unintentional tank 887 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,120 Speaker 1: can like this. You know, this team looks absurd to 888 00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:06,560 Speaker 1: me on paper, but it's I just wonder, if you're 889 00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:08,400 Speaker 1: the GM or the coach, are you really glad you 890 00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,400 Speaker 1: took this job. That would be my question because I 891 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,520 Speaker 1: don't know from ownership on down where the support is 892 00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,960 Speaker 1: here or the vision. It depends ownership. And we know 893 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,799 Speaker 1: there's some murky stuff going on with the preacher, But 894 00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:24,279 Speaker 1: if they let him, um truly Cali build this team, 895 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,360 Speaker 1: then that's that's good. But think about it, if you 896 00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,480 Speaker 1: do trade Deshaun Watson, if that's how this ends, um, 897 00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:31,200 Speaker 1: And again, it could go in a lot of different directions. 898 00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:32,799 Speaker 1: Let's say you get a couple of first round picks. 899 00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,080 Speaker 1: Let's say you go one in sixteen, you get the 900 00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,520 Speaker 1: first round pick. Maybe you come into next year with 901 00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:39,399 Speaker 1: three first round picks or something like that, and then 902 00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,720 Speaker 1: you can begin like, all right, let's try this again. 903 00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:43,840 Speaker 1: But I mean, what do you do with with the 904 00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,839 Speaker 1: hope and the promise that those picks bring. Like we saw, 905 00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:51,320 Speaker 1: and this is before we knew about the circumstances surrounding 906 00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,920 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson and all of the accusers and hopefully like 907 00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,239 Speaker 1: somebody finds out what actually happens and we get some 908 00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:59,040 Speaker 1: form of justice uh through through all of this. But 909 00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:03,680 Speaker 1: it's what reason do we have to believe that that's 910 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:07,080 Speaker 1: just not gonna happen? Again, even if thisy do a 911 00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:10,440 Speaker 1: symbol promising team, but the executive vice president of football 912 00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:12,960 Speaker 1: Operations doesn't like slink in there and say, yeah, get 913 00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:18,319 Speaker 1: the execute order sixty six. Yeah, that's rough. You can 914 00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:21,839 Speaker 1: do a total reset. Yeah, I'm total reset, and then 915 00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,800 Speaker 1: this brain trust can foul at all scary times, this 916 00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:31,920 Speaker 1: Texans fence. All right, let's move on to the Jacksonville Jaguars. UM. 917 00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:35,600 Speaker 1: All right. The great late Chris Westling said it often 918 00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:41,399 Speaker 1: history is instructive. Everyone says, Trevor Lawrence is Andrew luck 919 00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,360 Speaker 1: level good? All right, So then you go back in 920 00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:46,520 Speaker 1: the history books. Colts went two and fourteen with Curtis 921 00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:51,200 Speaker 1: Painter and company. UM. In two thousand eleven, luck comes in. 922 00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,279 Speaker 1: They go eleven and five during the playoffs. The next 923 00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:56,839 Speaker 1: year they win double digits. Again, they win a playoff game, 924 00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,880 Speaker 1: and they're often running as a a f C contender. 925 00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:06,359 Speaker 1: Is root? Is Is this a situation you see as 926 00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:10,880 Speaker 1: as the possibility for the Jaguars this year? Because I 927 00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,000 Speaker 1: was looking at it. They had six games last year 928 00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:15,919 Speaker 1: that they lost by one score or less, and they 929 00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:17,680 Speaker 1: went in the tank totally in the last month of 930 00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,560 Speaker 1: the season. But before that happened Uh, this team hung 931 00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,720 Speaker 1: around in games. So if you add a high level quarterback, Um, 932 00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:27,160 Speaker 1: could they actually be a team playing for the postseason 933 00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,560 Speaker 1: in December? I guess since uh, since Penny tried to 934 00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:33,400 Speaker 1: answer your question prematurely, Dan, I'm gonna say if I 935 00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:37,239 Speaker 1: do believe it, uh, and I'm probably that that I 936 00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,560 Speaker 1: do believe it. It's gonna be because of the rest 937 00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:42,040 Speaker 1: of the division. As we mentioned, the Texans could potentially 938 00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:45,520 Speaker 1: be consolutely in the trough. The Titans defense couldn't stop 939 00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,040 Speaker 1: anybody last year, and if there is right that that 940 00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,080 Speaker 1: little bit of boost that comes from a coach knowing 941 00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,600 Speaker 1: what he wants to do and bringing in new people 942 00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:56,000 Speaker 1: that he gets to choose with somebody else's holdovers, that 943 00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,640 Speaker 1: that they had some form of consistency we saw in 944 00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:01,640 Speaker 1: Robinson right and the running game, in some aspects of 945 00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:05,600 Speaker 1: the defense, uh last year. Yeah, I think it could happen. 946 00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:09,200 Speaker 1: I think Trevor Lawrence does bring some some unique skills 947 00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:12,000 Speaker 1: that that nobody else could bring in terms of the 948 00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:15,440 Speaker 1: total package, right, the arm uh, the ability to you know, 949 00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,800 Speaker 1: to to make plays with his feet as well. So 950 00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:20,560 Speaker 1: why not? I guess I'd like to see because you know, 951 00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:23,600 Speaker 1: when's the last time Urban Meyer had a season where 952 00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:25,759 Speaker 1: everything went wrong. I mean it's just like you know, 953 00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:29,200 Speaker 1: twelve thirteen win seasons and bowl games all left and 954 00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,279 Speaker 1: right for like a thousand years in a row. I mean, 955 00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:33,520 Speaker 1: if they get out to a really rough start for 956 00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:36,719 Speaker 1: some reason, Um, I just would like to observe how 957 00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:38,920 Speaker 1: he handles that. It's a totally different situation than he's 958 00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,520 Speaker 1: been in. And you know, the no matter who you are, 959 00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:43,759 Speaker 1: is a college coach. I mean, Nick Saban learned this 960 00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,719 Speaker 1: that the pro game is totally different and and you know, 961 00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:50,520 Speaker 1: the Urban Meyers talked about having to um retrain himself 962 00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:52,520 Speaker 1: to even think about something like the NFL Draft. But 963 00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:54,840 Speaker 1: point being, I think that they've got if he works, 964 00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:58,600 Speaker 1: um an interesting coach, a great quarterback, and you're right then, 965 00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:01,480 Speaker 1: like they were off out in games last year, they 966 00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:04,120 Speaker 1: were not getting handled week after week. They were still 967 00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:07,279 Speaker 1: a bad team. But they've transformed this roster at least 968 00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:08,960 Speaker 1: with a ton of bodies. There was a ton of 969 00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:12,719 Speaker 1: new people here, and Trevor Lawrence is Trevor Lawrence. Good Night. 970 00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,239 Speaker 1: Like they can easily win nine games. I'll tell you what, 971 00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,600 Speaker 1: I'll set the over under here for wins for the 972 00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:21,399 Speaker 1: Jaguars at eight and a half. I'm banging the over 973 00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,800 Speaker 1: what I'm banging it? Greg? Why not? I love Claybounds 974 00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,200 Speaker 1: point about the division they played in two Yeah, that's fine, 975 00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:31,160 Speaker 1: but then win the division with a eight wins once. 976 00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,120 Speaker 1: I get it. But they also took a lot of 977 00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,200 Speaker 1: risk in this draft. For instance, they take a guy 978 00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,680 Speaker 1: in et N's like they say is going to be 979 00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:42,120 Speaker 1: their third round pick. They take my son's new favorite player, 980 00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:45,919 Speaker 1: Walker Little. He says he's rooting for the Jaguars now 981 00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:48,920 Speaker 1: he hasn't played in two years. Uh. They they're moving 982 00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:51,200 Speaker 1: Tyson Campbell at the top of the second round to 983 00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,680 Speaker 1: slack corner. Never play that position. Took a guy who 984 00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:55,640 Speaker 1: missed all the last season in the third round, Like, 985 00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:59,440 Speaker 1: I gotta see it, man, expect Greg. You also say 986 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,000 Speaker 1: it's not hard for the teams to go seven and nine, 987 00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,880 Speaker 1: so it's like you can have six games. Everyone should 988 00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:08,400 Speaker 1: be happy if they win six or seven games. We 989 00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:10,200 Speaker 1: don't know who the team of a ten will be, 990 00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,680 Speaker 1: but we know who the team of Antien is, the Jagulins, 991 00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:22,520 Speaker 1: that Joke Division, the Denver Broncos. Mark selick I find 992 00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:25,160 Speaker 1: this is one of the tougher teams to evaluate right 993 00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:28,160 Speaker 1: now because we just don't know, um, where we're gonna 994 00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:31,200 Speaker 1: be down the road. Are they going to go get 995 00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:33,840 Speaker 1: a quarterback if they don't, If they don't get Aaron Rodgers, like, 996 00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:36,279 Speaker 1: then they're the team that is gonna be tough. It's 997 00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:39,120 Speaker 1: gonna be tough. Press Um Broncos fans I lived in 998 00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,719 Speaker 1: Denver are super passionate and they are on fire about 999 00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:44,040 Speaker 1: the fact that you passed up the chance to put 1000 00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:48,040 Speaker 1: Justin Fields into a really awesome looking offense that right 1001 00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:52,319 Speaker 1: now your front office that's basically saying, are are like 1002 00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:56,000 Speaker 1: vision to battle Patrick Mahomes and Justin Herbert inside of 1003 00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:58,640 Speaker 1: R O Division is to roll out Drew lock or 1004 00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:02,560 Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater patches middle of the road guys. Um one 1005 00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:05,400 Speaker 1: of them who's proven nothing. So I just can't believe 1006 00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:09,320 Speaker 1: that that's how a front office actually thinks, in especially 1007 00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:13,200 Speaker 1: with one attached to John Elway always looking for quarterbacks. Um, 1008 00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:17,000 Speaker 1: the way that they organized their draft, I think Patrick's certain, um, 1009 00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:19,000 Speaker 1: but the way they organized their draft makes me think 1010 00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,440 Speaker 1: that they think they can get Aaron Rodgers. And I 1011 00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,080 Speaker 1: don't think this story is over. I would just wonder, 1012 00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:26,040 Speaker 1: is this a bunch of hogwash. I know it's the 1013 00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:29,000 Speaker 1: most obvious question for the Broncos, but come September, is 1014 00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:31,600 Speaker 1: Rogers in orange or is that a pipe dream and 1015 00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:34,120 Speaker 1: they're stuck with Drew or Teddy. I think it's a 1016 00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:35,880 Speaker 1: pipe dream because they think it's a pipe dream. I 1017 00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,560 Speaker 1: read that Mike Silver article about their you know, draft, 1018 00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:40,480 Speaker 1: and the second the Packers were like, we're not even 1019 00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:43,080 Speaker 1: gonna listen, you know, they have to move on. What 1020 00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,880 Speaker 1: motivation to the Packers have to take anything before the 1021 00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:48,160 Speaker 1: start of this season when the primary thing they can 1022 00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,160 Speaker 1: get his draft picks we didn't get next year. Like, 1023 00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:55,160 Speaker 1: unless you're sending me Bradley Chubb and Courtland Sutton, what 1024 00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:56,960 Speaker 1: what is going to help the Packers this year? And 1025 00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:58,839 Speaker 1: then that would ruin you know that that would hurt 1026 00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,360 Speaker 1: the Broncos team. The most interesting thing in that article 1027 00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:03,520 Speaker 1: I thought was one line where it said Teddy Bridgewater 1028 00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:06,480 Speaker 1: is the presumptive starter and Silver doesn't write that for nothing. 1029 00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:10,120 Speaker 1: That's what the front office thinks. That That told me 1030 00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:13,480 Speaker 1: a lot. I'm surprised. Uh, it's a great opportunity for 1031 00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:16,080 Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater. Certainly, I know we've been through this before, 1032 00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:19,320 Speaker 1: but wow, that these these weapons around him are incredible. 1033 00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:22,040 Speaker 1: I think they're thinking he can be our Alex Smith 1034 00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:24,560 Speaker 1: in Kansas City. Whether they're right or not. You know, 1035 00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:26,879 Speaker 1: the Panthers weren't right about it. But it's I think 1036 00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,080 Speaker 1: it's not Drew Lock. I think it's Teddy Bridgewater. Based 1037 00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,600 Speaker 1: on that one line. I think like we heard from 1038 00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:33,640 Speaker 1: George Peyton leading up to the draft just about how 1039 00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:35,759 Speaker 1: much they were looking at quarterbacks and how invested they 1040 00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:37,320 Speaker 1: were in the quarterback starts, and like, oh yeah, we 1041 00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:39,399 Speaker 1: believe in Drew Lock too, and it's like those things 1042 00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:42,399 Speaker 1: can't be true now. And so like Mark, to answer 1043 00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:45,560 Speaker 1: your question about like a rog, like if if they 1044 00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:49,800 Speaker 1: were in pursuit of Aaron Rodgers, would taking Justin Fields 1045 00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:53,480 Speaker 1: could only help in that? Right, they would have because 1046 00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:55,839 Speaker 1: we saw it with Chicago, right, they would have had 1047 00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,400 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson if they had a quarterback to give to Seattle, 1048 00:52:58,440 --> 00:52:59,959 Speaker 1: to say okay, this is your future. But they didn't 1049 00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:04,160 Speaker 1: up one um. So I think they're out. Honestly, I 1050 00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:05,920 Speaker 1: think if if the move was to be made, then 1051 00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:07,799 Speaker 1: they would have made it. So it'll be next year. 1052 00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,680 Speaker 1: Maybe they're in next year, but I don't see anyone 1053 00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:13,200 Speaker 1: that makes a lot of sense this year. I just 1054 00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:16,560 Speaker 1: they have no idea what to do with the quarterback position. 1055 00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:17,960 Speaker 1: How do you come out of this with all the 1056 00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:21,799 Speaker 1: trade movement and the rookie prospects and you realize Drew 1057 00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:24,719 Speaker 1: Locks not the quarterback. Congratulations of that, that's easy. And 1058 00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:27,000 Speaker 1: then you come out and say Teddy Bridgewaters are back up, 1059 00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:33,399 Speaker 1: like it's it's unbelievable to me, Teddy comeback season. Yeah, 1060 00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:42,040 Speaker 1: it's over. Get the better. It's literally the most annoying 1061 00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:46,680 Speaker 1: thing on our podcast, know that you and ted the 1062 00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:49,360 Speaker 1: You and Teddy thing, and like he's proving he's proving 1063 00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:54,320 Speaker 1: your argument wrong year after year. He really had. Last 1064 00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:58,400 Speaker 1: year he made major mistakes in crucial situations, which was 1065 00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,240 Speaker 1: red zone and fourth quarter, which is which is important. 1066 00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,880 Speaker 1: He was a pretty productive like lower to middle field. 1067 00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:10,200 Speaker 1: He's not been liked. I like players totally, and the 1068 00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:12,759 Speaker 1: way Dan overrates the Jets every year, Like I like 1069 00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:14,879 Speaker 1: certain players that I root for them. That why am 1070 00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:17,879 Speaker 1: I catching sniper fire on this? Why don't you, if 1071 00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:21,800 Speaker 1: you're fighting with Mark Yah, say something nasty about Mark Rights. 1072 00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:24,920 Speaker 1: Not nasty, I'm saying, like, of course there's players I 1073 00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:27,359 Speaker 1: root for. He's a likable person who to me had 1074 00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:29,520 Speaker 1: had a has a more fun style than people think 1075 00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:32,360 Speaker 1: that I thought had a chance. He's obviously a middle 1076 00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:37,080 Speaker 1: smarter to factor in that he's a nice guy. We 1077 00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:39,080 Speaker 1: all know Teddy's a great teammate and nice, but it 1078 00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:41,480 Speaker 1: doesn't matter. That doesn't affect how I root for him, 1079 00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:44,920 Speaker 1: and he has been like significantly better than Drew Lock 1080 00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:47,440 Speaker 1: has ever been at multiple points in his career, including 1081 00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:50,600 Speaker 1: when he was with George Peyton. Almost every starter in 1082 00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:53,200 Speaker 1: the league, though, that isn't an argument for Teddy Bridgewater, 1083 00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:55,840 Speaker 1: is your answer? That's all. If they had an argument 1084 00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:58,200 Speaker 1: for sitting in their lap and they said we'd rather 1085 00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:00,920 Speaker 1: have Teddy Bridgewater and or Drew Lock, I killed them 1086 00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:03,719 Speaker 1: for that. I killed them for that. All I'm saying 1087 00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:06,279 Speaker 1: is I'm recognizing the situation where they are right now, 1088 00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:09,680 Speaker 1: and Teddy is their best chance to start games, and 1089 00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:11,799 Speaker 1: he is their best chance. Like, whether you like it 1090 00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:14,200 Speaker 1: or not, he's gonna be starting games this year. I 1091 00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:17,600 Speaker 1: guess my point is there were better options than Teddy 1092 00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:20,360 Speaker 1: to upgrade from Drew Lock. Maybe he's an upgrade Overlock, 1093 00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:22,840 Speaker 1: but from what we've seen, is he going to be 1094 00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:26,040 Speaker 1: a huge upgrade they didn't prioritize it. They didn't because 1095 00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:31,560 Speaker 1: even then they're paying him, were the better options right now? 1096 00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:36,360 Speaker 1: Well now the horses, I think I think that's ultimately 1097 00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:39,120 Speaker 1: Gregg's point, right, it's it's gotta be Teddy. And we 1098 00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:41,960 Speaker 1: saw a new offense right in the first team, a 1099 00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:44,360 Speaker 1: first year for that offense, and Teddy Bridgewater in his 1100 00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:48,719 Speaker 1: first year in that offense. Um, he's not gonna get 1101 00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,000 Speaker 1: like a sustained chance to be somewhere for for long. 1102 00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:52,560 Speaker 1: But I would like to see Teddy bridge Road to 1103 00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:54,600 Speaker 1: have an opportunity to grow in an offense. Right the 1104 00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:57,200 Speaker 1: Packers were bailing on Aaron Rodgers, Aaron Rodgers going to 1105 00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:00,000 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame, right, well on Aaron Rodgers up here, 1106 00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:04,000 Speaker 1: first year the here's the timing of it. Okay, look 1107 00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:07,359 Speaker 1: at you could have traded for Teddy Bridgewater after you 1108 00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:09,359 Speaker 1: didn't get the quarterback in the draft. If you're trying, 1109 00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:11,320 Speaker 1: if you're trying to tell me that the way to 1110 00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:14,319 Speaker 1: galvanize your fan base and your own offense is to 1111 00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:18,000 Speaker 1: say that it's smarter to trade for Teddy Bridgewater days 1112 00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:21,440 Speaker 1: before the draft and then pass on Justin Fields, who 1113 00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:24,200 Speaker 1: lands in our lap, who is undoubtedly. I think to 1114 00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:28,200 Speaker 1: the common eye or analytical eye, more excited that we 1115 00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:31,880 Speaker 1: all I wanted that. How there's no defending they totally 1116 00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:37,040 Speaker 1: to your point. The Panthers wanted Teddy Bridgewater to have 1117 00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:39,319 Speaker 1: an extended stay in Carolina. Look at the contract they 1118 00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:41,880 Speaker 1: gave him. They set him up with a great offensive 1119 00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:44,319 Speaker 1: head coach, and Matt Rule. They didn't like. They didn't 1120 00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:45,839 Speaker 1: like what he brought to the table, and they said, 1121 00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:48,359 Speaker 1: we got we're getting rid of them. He chance there. 1122 00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:51,360 Speaker 1: He moved the ball very well and was a disaster 1123 00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:53,800 Speaker 1: in high leverage situations in the red zone in the 1124 00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:57,760 Speaker 1: fourth quarter. Say that it's a positive when you're not. Don't. 1125 00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:00,760 Speaker 1: But like, if if let's put it this, if Teddy 1126 00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:04,319 Speaker 1: Bridgewater even gave them the offense passing wise that the 1127 00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:06,759 Speaker 1: Panthers had last year last year's but Broncos would have 1128 00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:08,840 Speaker 1: gone to the playoffs. They were They were like eighteenth 1129 00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:10,840 Speaker 1: nineteenth in dv o A in terms of passing. The 1130 00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:13,719 Speaker 1: Broncos were. And that's that's sort of the thing they're 1131 00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:16,680 Speaker 1: hoping for is to be middle of the road good theater. 1132 00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:20,880 Speaker 1: On this podcast, Panthers chose Sam right. Matt Rule has 1133 00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:24,040 Speaker 1: had like big jeweled eyes for Sam, like floating in 1134 00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:27,960 Speaker 1: the air wafting after Sam. Since the the initial flirtation 1135 00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,120 Speaker 1: with the Jets, I think that was they were done 1136 00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:33,520 Speaker 1: with Teddy regardless, though to be fair, they they the 1137 00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:37,040 Speaker 1: way this season ended with him playing his worst in December, 1138 00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:40,280 Speaker 1: they decided. Uh. And I think they're making a mistake 1139 00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:44,000 Speaker 1: by the way picking up Donald's contract, Uh, you know, 1140 00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:47,080 Speaker 1: for two Like, why make a two year commitment when 1141 00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:49,920 Speaker 1: you just made a huge unforced there. No one was 1142 00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:53,080 Speaker 1: giving Teddy Bridgewater two years, big money guaranteed, no one, 1143 00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:55,320 Speaker 1: And they just gave the second year for no reason. 1144 00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:57,440 Speaker 1: And they're doing the exact same thing with Donald. No 1145 00:57:57,440 --> 00:57:59,760 Speaker 1: one was giving Donald this kind of contract with two 1146 00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:02,280 Speaker 1: years is guaranteed, and they're doing it again. By the way, 1147 00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:04,360 Speaker 1: watch out, Greg, you got the cessler E's came out 1148 00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:07,680 Speaker 1: there for you at one point when you were waxing poetic. 1149 00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:11,000 Speaker 1: But I get it. He doesn't like Teddy. I enjoy 1150 00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:17,200 Speaker 1: enough with inflating Teddy. No one, no one, no one 1151 00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:20,800 Speaker 1: was saying anything, no one. Just make you feel better. 1152 00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:23,680 Speaker 1: Greg was proven wrong once about Teddy Bridgewater. It will 1153 00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:27,480 Speaker 1: happen once again. Let's see. Now, I gotta have to 1154 00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:31,800 Speaker 1: rally the troops. Teddy Nation comes all right time in 1155 00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:36,840 Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Superchargers. Patrick Lava Alright, So hope always 1156 00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:39,520 Speaker 1: seems to come back with regards to fan bases and 1157 00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:42,600 Speaker 1: beliefs to this quarterback thing. And from what we saw 1158 00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:44,400 Speaker 1: in there's a lot of reason to feel great about it. 1159 00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:48,360 Speaker 1: Like we had people describing Trevor Lawrence as as Justin 1160 00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:51,520 Speaker 1: Herbert plus and I think, you know, as much as 1161 00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:53,320 Speaker 1: that could be a slight to Justin Herbert, seeing as 1162 00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:55,480 Speaker 1: he did it at a professional level, I think it 1163 00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:58,440 Speaker 1: speaks to help people feel about him. And you know, 1164 00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:02,840 Speaker 1: if avertising continuity for an offense and a quarterback that 1165 00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:05,880 Speaker 1: seemed promising is a way to go, it seems weird 1166 00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:08,600 Speaker 1: that the people behind that progress are now elsewhere in 1167 00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:11,360 Speaker 1: Los Angeles or not in Los Angeles, they're just elsewhere 1168 00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:14,920 Speaker 1: in general. But um, anyway, Mike, my question surrounds the 1169 00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:17,640 Speaker 1: head coach, right and the man that that its own 1170 00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:20,800 Speaker 1: players have classified as a as a genius. UM. So 1171 00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:23,760 Speaker 1: he's got two players in Los Angeles who I would 1172 00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:26,760 Speaker 1: argue or singularly talented with regards to the rest of 1173 00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:29,800 Speaker 1: the league, that was the foundation of a defense. UM. 1174 00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:32,280 Speaker 1: In In in one of them. I think it's going 1175 00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:34,200 Speaker 1: to the Hall of Fame and Aaron Donald, right, and 1176 00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:37,040 Speaker 1: then there's Jalen Ramsey, So now, uh, can he do 1177 00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:40,480 Speaker 1: similar things on this defense using Derwin James perhaps and 1178 00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:44,040 Speaker 1: Joey Bosa or does he need that high level talent 1179 00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:46,160 Speaker 1: to be successful? Well, those are two potential Hall of 1180 00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:48,919 Speaker 1: famers too. I know it's a long, long long way 1181 00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:51,000 Speaker 1: to go, and Derwin James has to stay healthy. That's 1182 00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:53,560 Speaker 1: like the key to this team to me. But those 1183 00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:55,680 Speaker 1: are two of the very best at what they do. 1184 00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:58,200 Speaker 1: The hype is back. I'm buying in the first two picks, 1185 00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:00,760 Speaker 1: the Chargers had felt huge needs with their tackle and 1186 01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:03,240 Speaker 1: then Assante Samuel in the second round, Like I'm I'm 1187 01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:05,200 Speaker 1: buying in because I would take Justin Herbert over Trevor 1188 01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:07,800 Speaker 1: Lawrence in a second, I would take Justin Herbert over 1189 01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:11,080 Speaker 1: every single young quarterback in the league not named Patrick Mahomes. 1190 01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:14,320 Speaker 1: I mean, that's to me, that's where Justin Herbert is 1191 01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:18,040 Speaker 1: its and it's not a hard decision for me, alight, 1192 01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:21,320 Speaker 1: So the hype should be huge. Everything that I've read 1193 01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:23,760 Speaker 1: about Brandon Staley, everything I've seen, I mean, this is 1194 01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:26,200 Speaker 1: my version of Greg's Teddy Bridgewater. This happens to me 1195 01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:28,920 Speaker 1: with coaches where he's not coached a game, and I 1196 01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:31,720 Speaker 1: couldn't be more excited about um the head coach there. 1197 01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:33,120 Speaker 1: I think it changes a lot. And a lot of 1198 01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:36,040 Speaker 1: the issues with the Chargers have been these bizarre sort 1199 01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:40,040 Speaker 1: of like antimistical end of game meltdowns with time and 1200 01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:43,040 Speaker 1: kickers missing field goals, all this stuff. I think Brandon 1201 01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:45,680 Speaker 1: Staley is the kind of guy who is like bathed 1202 01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:47,920 Speaker 1: in details. I think that stuff is gonna go away. 1203 01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:49,920 Speaker 1: I just do. And I think you're gonna see him 1204 01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:51,920 Speaker 1: be able to coach up that defense and the way 1205 01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:53,640 Speaker 1: he did with the Rams. And I think Derwin James, 1206 01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:55,680 Speaker 1: if he had been healthy this whole time, would be 1207 01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:57,520 Speaker 1: viewed as like a top five player in the league. 1208 01:00:57,560 --> 01:01:00,640 Speaker 1: But he's just his career's gone south. It's it's fortunate, 1209 01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:03,960 Speaker 1: and it's you know, Gregg, you mentioned Hall of Fame, yes, 1210 01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:06,000 Speaker 1: that that was a rookie season at all Hall of 1211 01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:08,960 Speaker 1: Fame level. But he hasn't He hasn't played in what 1212 01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:12,080 Speaker 1: two years basically now. Um, so they need him to 1213 01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:13,480 Speaker 1: come back and you just have to hope with the 1214 01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:16,160 Speaker 1: injuries that he suffered that he doesn't come back, and 1215 01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:20,360 Speaker 1: he's a compromised version of what we saw back in ten. 1216 01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:22,440 Speaker 1: But he does seem like a Lynch print. Mark I 1217 01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:25,600 Speaker 1: know is Brennan Staley. Has he toppled Matt Rule in 1218 01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:28,120 Speaker 1: your head? Coach Crush power Ranks. I feel like MAT's 1219 01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:30,840 Speaker 1: gonna start getting jealous a little bit here. No, I've 1220 01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:33,240 Speaker 1: got a lot of crushes. I mean, it's Shanahan, it's Rule, 1221 01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:36,480 Speaker 1: it's Stale, and they're vying for my affections. It's their job, 1222 01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:40,560 Speaker 1: not mine. Three. I like the idea of the image 1223 01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:42,360 Speaker 1: of them all standing in line to talk to you 1224 01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:46,120 Speaker 1: with Flowers. Well, the one time we spoke with Matt 1225 01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:50,080 Speaker 1: Rule Greg Barry out of time out, that was a 1226 01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:53,520 Speaker 1: good story. But I'll stay that it's been taught on 1227 01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:56,400 Speaker 1: the podcast like five times. I'll tell it's five more 1228 01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:03,240 Speaker 1: the Las Vegas see, that's where I'm using my time. 1229 01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:06,200 Speaker 1: That's where the animosity might come from. With Teddy. It 1230 01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:08,880 Speaker 1: was a sore spot here because um, you know, I 1231 01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:12,320 Speaker 1: Mark look back. This is a little bit of cheating. 1232 01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:15,040 Speaker 1: I'm worried about the Raiders because I think a strong 1233 01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:17,040 Speaker 1: case could be made that the two most important people 1234 01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:20,600 Speaker 1: in their organization this year are Gus Bradley and Tom Cable. 1235 01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:22,280 Speaker 1: They're putting a lot of faith in those two guys 1236 01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:25,440 Speaker 1: because otherwise I don't see it, like you're counting on 1237 01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:28,760 Speaker 1: Tom Cable to coach up this offensive line. There's only 1238 01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:32,520 Speaker 1: one new starter, I mean, the two guys that are elevating, 1239 01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:34,760 Speaker 1: Like they know those two Denzel Good and I forgot 1240 01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:36,240 Speaker 1: the other one off top of my head. But like 1241 01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:38,200 Speaker 1: they've been there. There's only one guy that wasn't with 1242 01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:41,000 Speaker 1: the team. And then they've poured all these draft picks 1243 01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:44,200 Speaker 1: and all this free agent money into the defense. But 1244 01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:47,120 Speaker 1: ultimately it's like Gus Bradley just has to be way 1245 01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:49,919 Speaker 1: better than what they were doing before or else there's 1246 01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:52,080 Speaker 1: not much reason to think this team will be any better. 1247 01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:54,560 Speaker 1: I mean, Gus Bradley needs to be better than Gus Bradley. 1248 01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:57,320 Speaker 1: That's that's sort of the problem. He's not. You know, 1249 01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:00,080 Speaker 1: he keeps getting to keep getting jobs, but like his 1250 01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:02,800 Speaker 1: defenses have not been marvelous by any stretch. I mean, 1251 01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:05,120 Speaker 1: the players, and there's a he's a d C. There's 1252 01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:07,400 Speaker 1: only so much you could do. Like sometimes I wonder 1253 01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:11,480 Speaker 1: what these dcs and even the coordinators most of them anyway. 1254 01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:13,640 Speaker 1: It's like they if you don't give them the guys 1255 01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:15,560 Speaker 1: to play with, if you don't give them the chess pieces, 1256 01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:17,560 Speaker 1: there's only so much you could do. And a lot 1257 01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:19,880 Speaker 1: of that I think goes back to this front office 1258 01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:22,200 Speaker 1: and and the draft stuff gets a little annoying to me. 1259 01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:24,400 Speaker 1: And I did Power rankings this week, so I do 1260 01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:25,960 Speaker 1: a lot of reading and trying to learn about some 1261 01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:28,240 Speaker 1: different things. And you see all these grades and they're 1262 01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:30,880 Speaker 1: all over the map. But there's certain teams that every 1263 01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:33,840 Speaker 1: analyst feels safe just banging with an f And that's 1264 01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:36,360 Speaker 1: where the Raiders are right now, that everything they do 1265 01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:38,600 Speaker 1: is viewed as bad. But until some of these like 1266 01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:43,160 Speaker 1: unorthodox picks hits uh, you understand why they're not being 1267 01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:46,160 Speaker 1: given the benefit of the doubt. And I think I 1268 01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:49,200 Speaker 1: remember back to there was an old clip of the 1269 01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:52,160 Speaker 1: Seahawks drafting James Carpenter in the first round, and there 1270 01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:53,880 Speaker 1: was a shot of Nick Saban in the crowd going 1271 01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:57,520 Speaker 1: James Carpenter got drafted in the first round. And that's 1272 01:03:57,560 --> 01:04:00,600 Speaker 1: kind of everybody's reaction to Alex Leatherwood. It who can 1273 01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:02,280 Speaker 1: be a solid player? Right? He started a lot of 1274 01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:04,800 Speaker 1: games for for a team that when he was there 1275 01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:08,680 Speaker 1: a couple of national championships. But um, it's a question 1276 01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:12,160 Speaker 1: of value and at some point right um, as Dan, 1277 01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:15,480 Speaker 1: you mentioned the personnel and whether it's a coordinator, whether 1278 01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:18,760 Speaker 1: it's personnel. Um, it's it's just not working. Um, And 1279 01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:22,440 Speaker 1: so they're gonna need to stop somebody. Um. But they 1280 01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:24,520 Speaker 1: took one of the greatest strengths in their offensive line 1281 01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:26,919 Speaker 1: and decimated it to the point where they needed to 1282 01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:28,880 Speaker 1: to draft an offensive lineman in the first round, and 1283 01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:32,200 Speaker 1: then they reached It feels like they got worse this offseason. 1284 01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:35,440 Speaker 1: Does Yeah, they were the seventh the best passing attack 1285 01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:38,160 Speaker 1: a year ago, but that also requires, you know, Car 1286 01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:40,840 Speaker 1: to be protected. When we've seen Car when he's not protected. Well, 1287 01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:43,680 Speaker 1: it's a whole different situation. And I don't know what. 1288 01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:45,440 Speaker 1: You look at that team and say the strength is 1289 01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:47,840 Speaker 1: they're they're out of the box thinkers, But there's two 1290 01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:49,960 Speaker 1: month too many out of the box picks that have 1291 01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:52,400 Speaker 1: not worked. That's why people attack it. If you have 1292 01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:56,240 Speaker 1: a track record of thinking differently and it works, everyone's like, well, 1293 01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:58,160 Speaker 1: these guys are just smarter. That's not how they're viewed 1294 01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:07,440 Speaker 1: right now. So the pr fight this legit three. We 1295 01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:14,400 Speaker 1: closed with the defending NFC champion Kansas City Chiefs. The 1296 01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:17,440 Speaker 1: Chiefs couldn't protect Patrick Mahomes and the Super Bowl and 1297 01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:21,520 Speaker 1: they got there. Heine's whipped as a result. Um, and 1298 01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:23,920 Speaker 1: I just have so much respect for Brett Beach and 1299 01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:27,320 Speaker 1: that organization, a little bit jealous that they they said, 1300 01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:30,160 Speaker 1: this is a need and we could have waited because 1301 01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:31,800 Speaker 1: part of the reason they got destroyed in the Super 1302 01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:33,680 Speaker 1: Bowls they weren't healthy on the offensive line. It wasn't 1303 01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:36,200 Speaker 1: just that these guys couldn't play. They're missing their tackles 1304 01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:38,240 Speaker 1: and it was just everything was they were missing some 1305 01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:40,560 Speaker 1: material guys. It was just kind of patchwork. So they 1306 01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:43,640 Speaker 1: could have said, let's get healthy, Let's bring back our guys, 1307 01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:46,440 Speaker 1: get healthy and go for it again. So I respect 1308 01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:48,000 Speaker 1: that they just said, no, we want to make this 1309 01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:51,800 Speaker 1: a team strength again. Orlando Brown, Joe Tuney, you bring 1310 01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:54,000 Speaker 1: Kyle Long out of retire and we'll see how that goes. 1311 01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:58,040 Speaker 1: But in theory, Um, it makes sense. Creed Humphrey, they 1312 01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:00,760 Speaker 1: took with the sixty three overall pick. Everybody's saying he's 1313 01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:05,720 Speaker 1: gonna be awesome in the pivot. Um, So I look 1314 01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:07,560 Speaker 1: at this team they took this week. This turned it 1315 01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:11,160 Speaker 1: into a strength. Uh and I look at a seventeen 1316 01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:14,280 Speaker 1: game season, how are they not a thirteen plus win team? 1317 01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:17,320 Speaker 1: And how is anyone else gonna contend for that top 1318 01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:18,760 Speaker 1: seed in the a f C. I just think they're 1319 01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:21,080 Speaker 1: the heavy favorite in the a f C after what 1320 01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:23,320 Speaker 1: they've done. I mean, let's not forget they put up 1321 01:06:23,360 --> 01:06:26,560 Speaker 1: thirty eight points weeks earlier against the Bills. It was 1322 01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:29,520 Speaker 1: that the Super Bowl was it couldn't have gone better 1323 01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:31,680 Speaker 1: for the Bucks, who were a worthy super Bowl champion, 1324 01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:35,160 Speaker 1: but there was an obvious achilles heel to what Kansas 1325 01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:37,600 Speaker 1: City wanted to do with, you know, their protection, not 1326 01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:39,280 Speaker 1: they're not on the field. You know. It's kind of 1327 01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:41,640 Speaker 1: funny because I look back on all the Super Bowl 1328 01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:45,000 Speaker 1: preview coverage, not just our show, but everyone show, and 1329 01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:47,680 Speaker 1: it's just like not enough. I don't remember anyone being 1330 01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:50,160 Speaker 1: like the Chiefs are screwed because they have both of 1331 01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:53,200 Speaker 1: the tackles out. It was just like Tyree Kale, you know, 1332 01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:56,560 Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey, Patrick Mahomes, and it's like it doesn't work 1333 01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:59,160 Speaker 1: with three lineman and they totally patch. Think Orlando Brown 1334 01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:01,920 Speaker 1: was an some signing by an awesome trade by them. 1335 01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:03,880 Speaker 1: I mean it just again, it turned it into a strength. 1336 01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:06,760 Speaker 1: Like you said, remember the their off season began being 1337 01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:09,440 Speaker 1: rebuffed to get Trent Williams, so it wasn't like everything 1338 01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:12,040 Speaker 1: fell into place. They had to regroup after that, and 1339 01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:14,480 Speaker 1: they still managed to get the job done. I think 1340 01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:16,440 Speaker 1: I'm with you that they're the favorite. To me, they're 1341 01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:18,960 Speaker 1: always going to be the favorites unless things go really 1342 01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:22,880 Speaker 1: poorly building their roster. But they didn't have their right 1343 01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:25,000 Speaker 1: tackle all last season and they were still the best 1344 01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:27,200 Speaker 1: or one of the best offenses in the league. To 1345 01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:29,280 Speaker 1: that that position is kind of the same. The offensive 1346 01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:31,320 Speaker 1: line has to come together. I always say this, but 1347 01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:33,640 Speaker 1: they're like it's like a bullpen. It's really hard to 1348 01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:35,640 Speaker 1: predict what's going to be good or not, especially if 1349 01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:38,560 Speaker 1: the guys have not played together. They put every amounce 1350 01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:41,280 Speaker 1: of investment. They're a little thinner at the skill groups now, 1351 01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:45,479 Speaker 1: like they they rely on Kelsey and Tyrie Hill so much. 1352 01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:47,560 Speaker 1: They're a little thinner now than they are in years past, 1353 01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:49,240 Speaker 1: So that that's just something to watch. If either one 1354 01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:51,040 Speaker 1: of those guys got hurt, I think they're banked. And 1355 01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:55,560 Speaker 1: obviously on Mahomes greatness covering up that well, and they 1356 01:07:55,640 --> 01:07:58,400 Speaker 1: should because he's because he's great. But I think back 1357 01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:00,640 Speaker 1: to a Panther's team, right the star to Mike Rimmers 1358 01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:03,000 Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl, and then he just got undressed 1359 01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:05,400 Speaker 1: by von Miller, which Von Miller undresses a lot of people. 1360 01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:08,200 Speaker 1: But then Mike Remmers started sixteen games the next year. 1361 01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:11,720 Speaker 1: It's just like you address right well, you know who 1362 01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:13,560 Speaker 1: they're right, you know who the chief's right tackle is 1363 01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:16,719 Speaker 1: right now, doesn't put it out together. It's Mike Remmer. 1364 01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:20,960 Speaker 1: My thinking is it's not going to be season. They 1365 01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:23,000 Speaker 1: saw a problem and I think they addressed it, and 1366 01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:24,840 Speaker 1: that's what you want for a team that hasn't you know, 1367 01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:29,560 Speaker 1: a really good ported. We just went around the a 1368 01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:34,800 Speaker 1: f C and exactly forty eight minutes and don't don't 1369 01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:38,719 Speaker 1: even bother doing a math yourself. Just assume that's what happened. 1370 01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:41,519 Speaker 1: Just trust us with the clock. We know we we've 1371 01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:46,439 Speaker 1: nailed that. I feel like we made our listeners smarter today. 1372 01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:50,800 Speaker 1: I think they're going to really take this information and uh, 1373 01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:55,080 Speaker 1: sitting around a fire pit or socially distanced at their 1374 01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:57,760 Speaker 1: favorite pub, They're gonna hit their friends with a little 1375 01:08:57,760 --> 01:09:00,479 Speaker 1: bit of knowledge on some of these team tames, and 1376 01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:03,400 Speaker 1: the friends are gonna be like, Wow, this guy is cool, 1377 01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:05,000 Speaker 1: and then a girl's gonna hear it be like whoa, 1378 01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:08,000 Speaker 1: I want to bed that man for his knowledge. I 1379 01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:10,559 Speaker 1: feel like that's what's happening here coming out of Today's 1380 01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:12,960 Speaker 1: What a service that we're offering the listener. If all 1381 01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:17,120 Speaker 1: those things do happen. Yeah, we've created humans today just 1382 01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:20,880 Speaker 1: in that in linking up those two people. And we 1383 01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:22,760 Speaker 1: also used the time out as well. I gotta say, 1384 01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:26,120 Speaker 1: you know that the Teddy time out, Um, well you know, 1385 01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:29,680 Speaker 1: well learned, uh and well used definitely better than the 1386 01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:32,720 Speaker 1: Panthers who are in the fourth quarters last year. Just 1387 01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:36,840 Speaker 1: close strong, Mark, I'll give you a final thought on 1388 01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:40,960 Speaker 1: the Teddy situation. Well, that's the great thing about football 1389 01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:43,320 Speaker 1: is that you know, if I always I just assumed 1390 01:09:43,320 --> 01:09:46,720 Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater is listening to this episode, just assumed that. Um, 1391 01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:49,120 Speaker 1: And he's gonna say the one guy always seems to 1392 01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:51,719 Speaker 1: be sticking up for me, um, partly because I'm nice 1393 01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:54,760 Speaker 1: and the other guys seems to always begetting on my case. 1394 01:09:54,840 --> 01:09:56,519 Speaker 1: It's like I have a chip on my shoulder. As 1395 01:09:56,520 --> 01:09:58,960 Speaker 1: they say, now to like go to prove to that 1396 01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:02,960 Speaker 1: that one mouthie negative guy that I'm can play. So 1397 01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:05,000 Speaker 1: you know we've done a service for him too. Now 1398 01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:07,960 Speaker 1: you are like the Brian, You're the Brian good kunt 1399 01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:11,559 Speaker 1: to uh Teddy's Aaron Rodgers this year. And there is 1400 01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:16,120 Speaker 1: and there is the background. There is that Matt rules 1401 01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:18,880 Speaker 1: on our show at the height of Mark's crush for 1402 01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:21,800 Speaker 1: Rule and then he believes that Greg kind of threw 1403 01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:24,960 Speaker 1: him under the bus a little bit about Teddy Bridgewater. Uh, 1404 01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:26,479 Speaker 1: And I think that there's a lot of that is 1405 01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:29,960 Speaker 1: space there. It's not that I believe that that's exactly 1406 01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:33,439 Speaker 1: what that's factually what happened Greg. So so that has 1407 01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:36,960 Speaker 1: that made you concerned about your boys, you know, talent evaluation, 1408 01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:40,439 Speaker 1: because otherwise you have like sort of beliefs that are clashing. Here. 1409 01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:42,680 Speaker 1: They were stuck, I think that, you know, like they 1410 01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:45,000 Speaker 1: showed us, they showed us they were stuck. They were 1411 01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:48,639 Speaker 1: just stuck. But Matt Rule, Um it started. The crushed 1412 01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:51,080 Speaker 1: started because he came up to me Dan that wonderful 1413 01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:54,000 Speaker 1: night at the Combine in the snow and we walked 1414 01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:56,599 Speaker 1: into a wonderful you know, hotel Tavern and he walked 1415 01:10:56,680 --> 01:10:58,400 Speaker 1: right up and just said good to meet you on 1416 01:10:58,439 --> 01:11:00,400 Speaker 1: Matt Rule, and I was like, that's all it takes. 1417 01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:02,479 Speaker 1: I am absolutely in love with this person from now 1418 01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:05,320 Speaker 1: until the end of time, so his decisions are honorable 1419 01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:08,600 Speaker 1: and correct every time. To anybody who's a fan of 1420 01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:11,400 Speaker 1: verbal discussions, I hope they noticed the way that Greg 1421 01:11:11,439 --> 01:11:14,519 Speaker 1: took that criticism and then turned it into a mirror 1422 01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:17,280 Speaker 1: and tried to redirect it at Mark as if you 1423 01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:20,759 Speaker 1: have absolve himself of any particular wrongdoing it. Well, welcome 1424 01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:26,120 Speaker 1: to every episode. It's artful. All right, we'll be back. 1425 01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:28,640 Speaker 1: There's that Patrick, thank you as if you've said it 1426 01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:32,799 Speaker 1: all and you've done it all and we appreciate your help. Um. 1427 01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:36,400 Speaker 1: On Thursday, Steve Weisch will join us to break down 1428 01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:41,360 Speaker 1: the NFC in forty eight minutes and um we thank you. Ricky, 1429 01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:43,439 Speaker 1: have anything you wanted to add for Yeah, just before 1430 01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:47,040 Speaker 1: we go to the listeners, especially the males, it's not 1431 01:11:47,080 --> 01:11:49,559 Speaker 1: going to get a girl in bed with you if 1432 01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:52,840 Speaker 1: you're just like man splaining football at her. That's like 1433 01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:56,679 Speaker 1: the worst thing. No, no, no, no, time out, time out, 1434 01:11:56,720 --> 01:11:58,240 Speaker 1: Because I know where you're trying to go at this. 1435 01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:00,720 Speaker 1: I wasn't saying that he was man's landing to the 1436 01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:02,960 Speaker 1: woman and then she was so taken aback. She's like, 1437 01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:05,960 Speaker 1: where's your apartment? We gotta go. I was saying, he 1438 01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:08,640 Speaker 1: was in conversation with his buddies, and then she was 1439 01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:11,160 Speaker 1: at the next table over and she was so impressed 1440 01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:14,840 Speaker 1: by this. Information's like she knew a lot too. She's like, 1441 01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:18,559 Speaker 1: he knows his stuff exactly, thinking women can know just 1442 01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:21,160 Speaker 1: as much about football as men. Got to turn that 1443 01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:26,280 Speaker 1: mirror around, baby, I learned. Yeah, like displaying sports knowledge, 1444 01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:29,800 Speaker 1: nothing gets the opposite sex more excited about than that. 1445 01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:36,960 Speaker 1: All Right, Fregg needs to get out more. It does work. Yeah, 1446 01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:38,880 Speaker 1: all right, we'll be back Thursday. As I said with 1447 01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:42,880 Speaker 1: Steve which breaking down the NFC until then, the Dan 1448 01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:46,839 Speaker 1: hands of signing off for Patrick Laivan, the Quiet Storm, 1449 01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:51,360 Speaker 1: the old ball Rickey Hollywood, until then he'd the call 1450 01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:01,200 Speaker 1: s