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Speaker 1: This is one of our live recordings from our tour

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Speaker 1: earlier this year. This is our George of the Jungle episode.

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Speaker 1: We recorded it live in San Francisco, where some slash

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Speaker 1: we did it for SF Sketch Fest at the Gateway Theater.

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Speaker 1: So thanks to them for having us, Thanks to Cole

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Speaker 1: a great time, and thanks to everyone who went. It

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if you've heard of this

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Speaker 1: little thing called COVID nineteen, but this show was postponed

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Speaker 1: I think for three years or two at least two

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Speaker 1: thank you to everyone who came to the show. We

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Speaker 1: will be releasing other live episodes we recorded on this

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Speaker 1: had wonderful guests. We had Sarah Marshall for the Gooneyes episode,

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Speaker 1: the episode that you're listening to right now. A quick

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Speaker 1: But we had so much, like truly, truly, truly, so

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Speaker 1: On the bedl cast, the questions asked if movies have

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Speaker 1: changing it with the Bechdel Cast. Hi, welcome to the Beckdelcast. Wow.

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Speaker 1: Hi you Sam Francisco. How are you? Uh? Hi Jamie, Hi,

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Speaker 1: Caitlin right now? Hello? What's our friend Bryant? What he knows?

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Speaker 1: We have a show? Right? This doesn't pass the well

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Speaker 1: all right, that was a sting operation. He called it,

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Speaker 1: welcome to the show. Thanks for going out. My name

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Speaker 1: is Caitlin Dronte. Yeah. Hello, Oh my name is Jamie Loftus. Wow.

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Speaker 1: on the current climate. You know, George or the Jungle

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Speaker 1: Does it happen often? No? But in George of the Jungle, interestingly,

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Speaker 1: We love movies from nineteen ninety seven everything. Yeah, it's true. Yeah, Jamie,

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Speaker 1: hilarious joke in this hilarious movie. When George gets shot,

420
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 1: it freezes, and then the narrators like, we can't kill

421
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 1: George the hero. He's our hero. He gotta bring him

422
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 1: to San Francisco and we gotta do you know mayor

423
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 1: Willie Brown's nine millionth cameo of this era in children's movies.

424
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,640
Speaker 1: It is truly the fact that he got into Prince's

425
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 1: diary and George of the Jungle, I mean, god bless iconic,

426
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 1: really impressive work. Yeah, okay, So George needs medical attention,

427
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 1: so they bring him to the US because only medical

428
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 1: attention exists here, and Lyle is left behind. He gets

429
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 1: arrested and thrown in jail. The poachers Max and Thor

430
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 1: they were like, oh, if we go after Ape, we

431
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 1: can make a bunch of money. We can like join showbiz.

432
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 1: Because they have dreams of right becoming performer. I could.

433
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 1: I couldn't keep track of those characters. I was like,

434
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 1: who are these guys? Like they were just trying to

435
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 1: do Joe Peshi in Home alone and I was like,

436
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 1: it's not gonna happen, guys, Yeah, yeah, but they're like, oh,

437
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 1: if we go after Ape the talking Gorilla, that's our

438
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: ticket into show business. So meanwhile, George and Ursula arrive

439
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 1: in San Francisco. George is trying to get acclimated to

440
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 1: city life, and Ursula tells her mom, who is Holland Taylor,

441
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: about George and Holland Taylor does not like this at all,

442
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 1: but hall and Taylor frames it in a very specific

443
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 1: way where she's like, I have no problem if you

444
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 1: fuck George raw. Yeah, Like she kind of like repeatedly

445
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 1: is like, no, you should definitely have sex with him,

446
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 1: but you can't marry him. And it's just I don't know.

447
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 1: We've covered a lot of like waspy moms of this

448
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: kind of like category before, and Holland Taylor is the

449
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 1: best of them because it's like a self aware writing

450
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 1: of it where she sounds really horrible and she's saying

451
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 1: it where you're like, no, George is the best guy

452
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 1: in the whole world. He's the hymbo of the century.

453
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: Oh wow, our crowd love that. Okay. So then Ursula

454
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 1: invites her best friend Betsy over and they both see

455
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: George naked after he comes out the shower and they're

456
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 1: ogling at him. Betsy classic Trope character. She comes in,

457
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 1: She's like, I'm the best friend. Who you fucking And

458
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 1: then Ursela is like, oh, no, one, and she's like,

459
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 1: look at that huge panut and Ursela's like, no, I'm

460
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 1: not interested. She's like, whoa, why don't I take a bite?

461
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 1: And then Ursela says, okay, I guess I do like him,

462
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 1: and then she disappears for forty five minutes, like unsung

463
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 1: heroes of movies of the nineties, women with curly hair

464
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 1: who are barely in the movie. Okay, So, Ursela has

465
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 1: to go to her engagement party the next day, so

466
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 1: she leaves George at home, but he ventures out into

467
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 1: San Francisco. He goes to the Golden Gate Bridge. He

468
00:30:52,760 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 1: saves a para sailor. Sorry, I know that, Like people

469
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 1: are listening to this in the future. I just wanted

470
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 1: to say that three people just pulled out harpoon guns

471
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: and they seem really upset. Yeah, I it's the Bay Bridge.

472
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: I've fed that. They're slowly lowering them, but they want

473
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 1: us to know that they have them. Oh, because the

474
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 1: Golden Gate Bridge is stuff. Stop they're bringing them back out. No,

475
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna die on this hill. The Golden Grape it's red,

476
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 1: right and this one wasn't red. I should have known.

477
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 1: I'm humiliar. Someone just threw it tomato. That's so fucked up.

478
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 1: Stop I'm a man na. We're from Los Angeles. We

479
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 1: don't have brains that work. We don't have bridges. Okay, stop, okay,

480
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 1: let me try again. He goes to the what's it

481
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 1: called bay Bridge? What did I get it wrong? But

482
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 1: just throw a pineapple at your head? Stop bridge. Say

483
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 1: it's a para of sailor whose parachute had gotten caught

484
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 1: in whatever bridge it is. And Ursula is like, oh

485
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 1: my god, George. She sees him on TV and she's like, George,

486
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 1: you saved that man's life. And she's swooning about it

487
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 1: on TV. She doesn't give a shit. She does give

488
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 1: a single shit, And then she tells her parents that

489
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: she doesn't want to marry Lyle anymore, and her parents

490
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 1: throw well, specifically, her mom throws a fit about it. Yes,

491
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 1: one of my I mean, we'll probably get back to this,

492
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: but one of my least favorite tropes. That happens when

493
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 1: you have to get a woman in a romantic lead

494
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: part where her mom is like, no, I want to

495
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: get in the way of this, and then the dad,

496
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 1: who has not said a word the entire movie, is like,

497
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 1: I support this, I love my daughter, and then she goes,

498
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 1: thank you, daddy, and then and then we all just

499
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 1: look at the mom like what a bitch. Yeah, It's like,

500
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 1: why does it? I mean, it happens every single time.

501
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 1: The narrator even calls her like the meddling mother. So yeah, well,

502
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 1: and and the father says, like what a he says

503
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 1: something really mean about her. Yeah, I forget, I forget

504
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 1: what he says, but it's I feel like he says

505
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:42,719
Speaker 1: what a piece of shit? Like he says something like that,

506
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 1: and maybe that exactly yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, could be,

507
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 1: could be. Uh okay. So then it's her engagement party

508
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 1: that evening, and George is there and all the women

509
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: are so horny for George, and then Ursula's mom pulls

510
00:33:56,200 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 1: George aside, and she's like, stay away from my daughter,

511
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 1: or I will cut your dick off. Oh my god.

512
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: She is so iconic in that scene though, like, I

513
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 1: won't stand for people being mean to George, except in

514
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 1: that scene specifically where George is so sweetly like you

515
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 1: don't want Ursula to like love George, and she's like,

516
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: I would sooner nail my tongue to the table every

517
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 1: morning at breakfast. Here's like, well, if she's saying it

518
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 1: like Miranda Priestley, I guess I like it. Sorry, I

519
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 1: looked at my notes. Ursula's dad says about his own

520
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: wife as a comedic button to the scene. God, that

521
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 1: woman is a pain in the ass. Yep, hilarious. Okay.

522
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 1: So meanwhile, back in the jungle, the poachers Max and

523
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: Thor capture Ape and plan to bring him to Vegas

524
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 1: for a Siegfried and Roy type show. So the Toucan

525
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: shows up in San Francisco and tells George that Ape

526
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 1: has been kidnapped. So George has to leave and go

527
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: back to the jungle to save Ape, and then Ursula

528
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: goes after George because she realizes she loves him. Yes, George,

529
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 1: so George arrives back in the jungle and he saves

530
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 1: Ape from the poachers. Ursula shows up to help. They're

531
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 1: about to kiss, but then Lyle shows up and kidnaps Ursula.

532
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 1: They end up on a raft. They're getting swept up

533
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 1: by the rapids, and then so George has to do

534
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 1: like the biggest swing known to man to save Ursula,

535
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 1: and he does, and then still hits that damn tree,

536
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: the tree. If there's one thing my man George is

537
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 1: gonna do, it's hit that damn tree. And he does

538
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: it every time. People tell him to watch out for

539
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 1: that tree, and he never listens. He does not. So

540
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 1: then George and Ursula get married in the Jungle. We

541
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 1: cut to a few years later. They have had a

542
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:07,879
Speaker 1: Greg Greg Greg of the Jungle. He got her greg nant,

543
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: she had a Greg and um. Then the movie ends

544
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 1: on a Lion King reference where George is holding up

545
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: his Greg on Pride Rock, followed by Ape performing in

546
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 1: Vegas in a solo show the original Marvel mid credit scene.

547
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 1: So that's the plot of George of the Jungle. Oh

548
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 1: thank you well, I mean there there's so much to

549
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 1: talk about with this movie. I don't even really know

550
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 1: where to I mean, where where would you like to start?

551
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: Oh geez, because I know we have like we've got

552
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 1: a well we have a we should we just well,

553
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 1: let's just yeah. So we were, um curious because this

554
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 1: movie takes place in this very like it says it

555
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 1: takes place in the jungle in Africa, and then it

556
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 1: is very unspecific as to where they're talking about, and like,

557
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 1: so we were curious. It's like, is this based anywhere?

558
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: What are the like, what is the culture and what

559
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,439
Speaker 1: is the wildlife that we're actually supposed to be paying

560
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 1: attention to? And how accurately does the movie represent it? Yes,

561
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 1: which we didn't know, And so we contracted some local experts. Yeah,

562
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 1: we found them. They're in San Francisco. This is going well,

563
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 1: it really is. And so I see without much further ado,

564
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,280
Speaker 1: would you give us a help in giving a warm

565
00:37:42,320 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 1: welcome to our two experts on this matter? Thank you? Okay, holdah,

566
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:06,479
Speaker 1: could you hear me that clicker there? Oh yeah, no problem, Yeah,

567
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:12,359
Speaker 1: welcome they thank you. Don Francisco. Pretty freaking epic if

568
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 1: you ask me. All right, um, all right, thank you? So, Um,

569
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,399
Speaker 1: I can't do that. I can't. I want to stand

570
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: up oh yeah, yeah, that not you relate. Okay, so

571
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 1: I don't know why on live presentation we've got. I'm

572
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 1: gonna keep it up, so uh please introduce yourself. Yeah sorry,

573
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:42,359
Speaker 1: uh um, well, Caitlin asked us to present catffects on

574
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,800
Speaker 1: behalf of her Yeah, a lot of cats in the

575
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 1: jungle allegedly. So this is catffects and other animal effects. Yeah,

576
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:57,720
Speaker 1: featuring myself, Lauren D. Titanic, Yeah, and me doctor Bambi orwell, sorry,

577
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,879
Speaker 1: the your credentials got left off. It's fine, it's fine,

578
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: that's all of it. But a little more about us. Yes,

579
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: So I'm Lauren D. Titanic. I've got a master's degree

580
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:13,399
Speaker 1: in uh animals from Animal University, right, but I hate

581
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 1: to mention that. Meanwhile, I, doctor Banbi, have a PhD,

582
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 1: a bachelor's and an associate's degree and animal studies from

583
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 1: Wikipedia University. No masters, skipped straight to the PhD. No

584
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:37,399
Speaker 1: credit for the Yeah, I up all the time. All right, So, um,

585
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 1: first of all, let's just do some context corner. Um,

586
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,280
Speaker 1: George of the Jungle is set in according to the movie,

587
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 1: is set in a place called book. Is that a

588
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 1: place that exists? Well, let's ask all right, we will

589
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:58,760
Speaker 1: ask Google, any experts, and according to Google and also

590
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: the World, no, it's not. Well it's so spelled differently.

591
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 1: Is a city in the Democratic Republic of the Congo

592
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 1: City not Jungle? So and also not Bokovo, correct, right? Right? Right? Yes, yes,

593
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:20,240
Speaker 1: so that's not correct, even though the movie keeps mentioning

594
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 1: that that's where they are. So we went back to

595
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 1: the drawing board. See did they mention any other locations? Yes? Right,

596
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 1: So moments later in the film, Ursula says, oh, this

597
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 1: is the third day in Bow and so is that

598
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 1: a place that exists in Africa? And we're the experts,

599
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 1: so we of course googled it. That's right. Is it

600
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 1: a real place that exists? Is a real place? According

601
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 1: to Google and also the world. Um no, no, it's

602
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:53,320
Speaker 1: not place. It is an African surname. Um. It's also

603
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 1: the fictional province that's the home of Georgia, the Jungle.

604
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,760
Speaker 1: It's kind of shocking that it has its own Wikipedia page,

605
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 1: given that that is the dent of it. That's what

606
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 1: we're in the end. It's what we in our profession

607
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 1: call a stub. All right, So now this is actually

608
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 1: a native species to Scotland if you can believe it. Yeah,

609
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 1: well it's a it's an image of Shrek. Yes, Laura

610
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 1: and I spent years in the trenches of Scotland looking

611
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 1: for the rare Shrek and and we found him and

612
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,879
Speaker 1: it turned out he had aspirations and shell business and

613
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 1: so and you know, he's become rather a star. But

614
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 1: really his confused face represents our confusion. Yes, yes, he's

615
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 1: sort of the people's Shrek. So back to where we

616
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 1: were discussing. So then we um looked at Wikipedia Scholarly Journal. Yeah,

617
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 1: I'm an alumni of it's true. And according to Wikipedia,

618
00:41:56,840 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 1: on the George of the Jungle page says while touring

619
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:04,479
Speaker 1: in Burundi or sah blah blah blah. So we thought,

620
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 1: you know, like it's a blue link, we should click

621
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 1: on it. Yes, and we did. That's just sort of

622
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 1: like research, you know. So we clicked on got down

623
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 1: a rabbit hole if you will. Yeah, yeah, And so

624
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 1: we clicked on Burundi and oh god, we found a

625
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: place that exists. It's a real country in Africa, that's right, Yes,

626
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: just south of Rwanda. So I guess that's where they

627
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 1: are in the film. So tell us all about Bundy.

628
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: I'd love to so, um, it's where Georgia the Jungle

629
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: is canonically sit. It's a small landlocked country in the

630
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 1: Great Rift Valley between the African Great Lakes region and

631
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:45,240
Speaker 1: East Africa. And we were really interested in particular about

632
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: the wildlife. We are again wildlife expert. So Sureley, like,

633
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:54,320
Speaker 1: you know, the Henson Company made the puppets for this movie,

634
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 1: and the Hensons aren't known for just making shit up. No,

635
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:01,439
Speaker 1: so I thought this is probably elogically accurate. Let's look

636
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: into it. Yeah, so there's a you know, there's a

637
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 1: number of species of birds, mammals, reptiles, amphibians, fish, among

638
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 1: other non vertebrae animals, including zero species of talking bears

639
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 1: named Peddington absolutely gating. Okay, So getting into the animal

640
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:23,800
Speaker 1: representation of Georgia the Jungle of the film. So there's

641
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 1: an orangutan in the film who appears in several scenes.

642
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:31,720
Speaker 1: So we're like, oh, orangutans must live in Burundi, right,

643
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:36,439
Speaker 1: did you know that that's true. It's not it's not true.

644
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 1: They're not there and it doesn't stop there all right.

645
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 1: Next we sat we noticed there's a there's a two

646
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 1: can I believe that's right. Um, well, just to go

647
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 1: back real quick, orangutans are native to Indonesia, Malaysia. There

648
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 1: are now only found in parts of Bonneo. Is that

649
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 1: how you pronounce it? I don't know, everyone's going to

650
00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 1: correct me all the time. That and Sumatra? Okay? Um, so,

651
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 1: well got the two can Tuki Tuki who famously flies

652
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 1: from from Africa to San Francis going about twenty minutes.

653
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 1: Hilarious joke. Yeah, but he's Georgia's you know, sort of

654
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 1: his what we would normally see as a pigeon in

655
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,800
Speaker 1: American movies. Uh that they're known for their colorful bills

656
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 1: and loving fruit loops. So we're thinking, you know, two

657
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:32,439
Speaker 1: cans must be native to this region. Well, well are they? No,

658
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: they're not from they don't live in Burundi, they don't

659
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,359
Speaker 1: live anywhere in Africa. Never guess where they do live.

660
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:42,439
Speaker 1: It's Central and South America pretty far away. Yeah. Funny

661
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: little fact though in Africa and Asia hornbills now hornbills

662
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: occupied the two cans ecological niche, which is an example

663
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: of convergent evolution. And we know exactly what all of

664
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,919
Speaker 1: that means. Yeah, yeah, well it's like, well, we we joke.

665
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 1: We're like, oh, it's like the the bill has an erection,

666
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 1: you know, but that's just a little uh, that's just

667
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 1: zoo talk. It's a nasty things. We say, yeah, I

668
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 1: got the snort. So the point is that easily just

669
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 1: could have put a hornbill in the movie and it

670
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 1: would have been accurate. But instead they're like, no, let's

671
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 1: put a two kin, even though they don't leave in

672
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 1: Africa anyway. Okay, here's I'm gonna fuck up this pronunciation

673
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 1: to everyone? Is it capuchin? Capuchin? Capuchin? How does everyone do?

674
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 1: Everyone in San Francisco is a fucking genius? Interesting, you're

675
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 1: fucking weird. As I walked outside, someone I got hit

676
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:42,359
Speaker 1: on worth than I've been hit on in my entire life,

677
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 1: but the weirdest guy I've ever met inside of three seconds.

678
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 1: You people are sick here. Thanks for coming to the show.

679
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: You know it all weird enough. So this is a

680
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 1: Capuchin monkey that George helps by giving the confidence to

681
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:02,800
Speaker 1: stand up to its bullies, which, of course as a

682
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 1: tale as old as time, Yes, classics storytelling. Kapuchan monkeys,

683
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 1: You'll never believe this do not live in Africa. They

684
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 1: are also native to Central and South America. Now it's

685
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:15,399
Speaker 1: like that they didn't have encyclopedias when clearly Ape has

686
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 1: a full set. It's just unbelievable. What else do we

687
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,800
Speaker 1: have here? We have? Oh, of course there's a shep,

688
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:27,240
Speaker 1: one of my favorite characters, George's pet elephants. So, okay,

689
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 1: do we find elephants in this in this area of Africa? Well, yes,

690
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 1: but only African elephants. But sheep, however, is an Asian elephant.

691
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 1: We are not quite sure how that happened. But I

692
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 1: think that that's actually kind of more of a failure

693
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 1: of storytelling. You know, that's true. I just switched into

694
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 1: New Jersey for a second storytelling. I also, I can't

695
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:56,839
Speaker 1: wait to get canceled by everyone in Australia for this bit.

696
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 1: Having a long Asian elephant is in a movie that's

697
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 1: supposed to take place in Africa. That's right, Yes, not correct,

698
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 1: So that's fucked up. Yeah, I'm all right. So also,

699
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 1: there's a lion in early in the movie. Of course,

700
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 1: George famously fights this lion, and we're like, oh, wait

701
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 1: a minute, lions do live in Burundi, but but not

702
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 1: in the jungle. Oh no, they live in the savannahs

703
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: and grasslands and rocky hills, which they would know if

704
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,240
Speaker 1: they watch the movie they parody in the final shot

705
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 1: of the movie, The Lion King. Yes, takes place entirely

706
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 1: in the savannah exactly. But what can you do? What

707
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 1: can you do? All right, research is what you can do. Um. Now,

708
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 1: let's get down to brass text here. This is the

709
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: real important part. And this has been I mean, I

710
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 1: know this has been sort of the mission of your

711
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,839
Speaker 1: research for for a very long time. Yes, well, yes,

712
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 1: Caitlyn and I work closely on this. Um. Yes, it's

713
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: she's your muse, you could say, ye, so um, specifically

714
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 1: the number of nipples that cats have, and so lions

715
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 1: have four nipples. Oh good, I just want you to know. Yeah, okay,

716
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 1: So moving on to Ape. So Ape appears to be

717
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 1: a gorilla. That's we were able to figure that out

718
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 1: pretty quick, right, and we were. You know, gorillas do

719
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 1: live in Burundi, however, Lauren, Yeah, well they used to

720
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:43,240
Speaker 1: until they went extinct due to poaching in habitat loss.

721
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 1: So sorry to bring the show. What what is otherwise

722
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:51,359
Speaker 1: is very awesome, lively, wonderful show that everyone's just wanted

723
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: to let you know that if Ape was real, he

724
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 1: would have died. And so there, in a way is

725
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: kind of like beautiful. We thought it was nice that

726
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 1: the writers where is this that I don't know right movie?

727
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 1: There is of the movie wrote in Ape because it

728
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 1: was sort of like you become attached to his character

729
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 1: and then you realize, oh, oh no, there, you know there,

730
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 1: there's none of them anymore due to a series of

731
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 1: really trait unfortunate events. A series of unfortunate events by

732
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 1: Lemony Snickett. Yeah, yeah, all right, let's move on. So

733
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 1: this is actually my doctoral thesistant. Yes. So ape Is

734
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 1: is voiced by actor John Cleese, who is better known

735
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 1: most famously now. His most famous role is voicing the

736
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 1: Frog King in Shrek two and Shrek the Third. Yeah, yeah,

737
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:55,760
Speaker 1: you know, and he was he was a troubled frog,

738
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 1: but ultimately he died at the beginning of the third movie.

739
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's fine. We love kings. All right, Well

740
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 1: that's that. We just wanted to thank Caitlin and Jamie

741
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 1: for for flying us in. I think it was worth it. Yeah,

742
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, just like they're they're so beautiful

743
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 1: and interesting, you know, we should bring them back to

744
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 1: the stage. Welcome them back, all right, Welcome back Caitlin

745
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:45,879
Speaker 1: and Jamie. They were wonderful and so pretty, almost as

746
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:50,399
Speaker 1: pretty as us because it's a competition, but yes, and yeah,

747
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get into hand to hand combat with Okay, Well,

748
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 1: now that we know all about how I mean, I

749
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:00,879
Speaker 1: feel like part of the reason we wanted to talk

750
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 1: about how wildly inaccurate and kind of randomized and underthought

751
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 1: the way that the jungle is built out with animals

752
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 1: is because the way that Africa and the African jungle

753
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 1: are portrayed in the movie overall, it just makes no sense. Yeah,

754
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 1: particularly with the African characters. Yeah, who are in the movie.

755
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 1: So we have mister Kuame and then these three Porters,

756
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 1: and the way that they are characterized, especially the Porter characters,

757
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 1: is they are like the funniest characters in the movie

758
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 1: for sure, like time and time again, Like it's it's

759
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 1: a frustrating thing to what because I like checked everywhere

760
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 1: I could, like, were these characters even intended to have names? No,

761
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 1: there's three porters. They are all referred to as Ursula's

762
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 1: friend and an African tour guide, which is a very

763
00:51:56,280 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 1: long way of not giving someone a name, right, And

764
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:03,479
Speaker 1: on one hand, it's like something that surprised me about

765
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 1: this movie is like Lyle is a very clear, flamboyant

766
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 1: colonizer character, Like he's fucking arrogant. He never knows what

767
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:16,319
Speaker 1: he's talking about. He's constantly bullying people and belittling people

768
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 1: and assuming that they know less than he does. He does,

769
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 1: specifically mister Quame and the Porters, and he's always wrong

770
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 1: and they're always laughing at him in a way that's

771
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 1: very satisfying. But on the other hand, we don't know

772
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 1: what their names are, and we don't know anything about

773
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 1: them except that they know that Lyle is an incompetent loser. Right. Well,

774
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 1: I would even say that the movie the movie is

775
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 1: inconsistent with how it wants you to feel about these

776
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 1: characters because it doesn't even present him is always wrong

777
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 1: because for the first few moments of the movie, the

778
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 1: way they represent it is like they take the expression

779
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 1: shake a leg literally because they like don't fully understand

780
00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 1: like the nuances of the English language. They are easily

781
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 1: startled by like modern Western things like flash photography, or

782
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 1: like one of them the movie throws one of them

783
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 1: off of like a well, at Lyle throws them off

784
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:15,840
Speaker 1: a bridge, right, but that is like the inciting incident

785
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 1: for like, yeah, I do agree that it's like they are.

786
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 1: They are shown as being like I think, even more

787
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:25,799
Speaker 1: offensively cartoonishly like, they're shown as like being, well, they're

788
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 1: not familiar with Western civilizations, so we don't need to

789
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 1: respect these characters, right, which happens all the time. But

790
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:35,799
Speaker 1: then when Lyle shakes the rope bridge and one of

791
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 1: the porters nearly passes away, but then the narrator is like,

792
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 1: no one's gonna die in this movie, I swear, And

793
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 1: so he comes back even though he should have dined,

794
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 1: and he's just Matt. And then there's like a turning

795
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 1: point where all of a sudden, like you're saying, like

796
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 1: the broad offensive trades we were introduced to go away,

797
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, like Lyle comes over to

798
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 1: them and is like condescending to them about like I

799
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 1: have this polaroid camera and cigarettes and cigars and in exchange,

800
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 1: I'm going to take your land. Like he's using the

801
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:14,839
Speaker 1: most colonizer colonizer language ever and they know exactly what

802
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 1: a polaroid camera is and they're laughing at him, and

803
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 1: then for the rest of the movie they're laughing at

804
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 1: him and he falls into a pile of shit, and

805
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 1: then they say, two camera, we're laughing at him. But

806
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 1: like it's like the line, it's such a funny line.

807
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:31,280
Speaker 1: It's a good line. The line is bad guy falls

808
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 1: in poop, classical element of physical comedy. Now comes the

809
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 1: part where we throw our heads back and laugh, and

810
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 1: then they do it. Then they do It's like, have

811
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 1: you guys taken a UCB class? Oh, they're they're giving

812
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:50,760
Speaker 1: hard three one. Yeah, but yeah, the movie it's almost

813
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 1: as if the movie for the first few minutes wants

814
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:57,479
Speaker 1: you to make an assumption about the characters as being

815
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 1: like oblivious and they don't understand what's going on on

816
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 1: and they don't know things. And then it's there's a

817
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 1: hard turn where it's like, oh, shame on you for

818
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 1: thinking that they speak English this whole time and they

819
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 1: know they're like far more aware of everything than especially Lyle.

820
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:19,399
Speaker 1: But we only thought that because you character it that way.

821
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 1: And also it's like there's all those different assumptions of

822
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 1: that the movie makes of like they spoke English the

823
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 1: whole time is such a loaded thing, Like why do

824
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 1: you have to speak English to be considered to be

825
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 1: a civilized, respectable person. Colonialism, Like there's kind of like

826
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 1: all of these like subtle things at play that this

827
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 1: movie is in no way equipped to handle. But even

828
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 1: with like the tone that this movie is taken on,

829
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 1: like you're totally right where the porters should first of

830
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 1: all have names, because they do have like pretty distinct

831
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 1: personalities for like side characters basically, And also, this is

832
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 1: a movie that takes place in the African jungle, and

833
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 1: every black character is very much a side character, which

834
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:08,280
Speaker 1: is ridiculous. Hollywood movies set in Africa still are always

835
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 1: about white guys. Yeah, they're yeah, and mister Quam, I think,

836
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:19,919
Speaker 1: is like the most the most characterized of the group,

837
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,839
Speaker 1: But it's also like that's mostly just because he has

838
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 1: a name and he appears in multiple scenes and he's

839
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:29,839
Speaker 1: played by a very famous person, but it's not like

840
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 1: he's given really much of Like the porters and mister

841
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:36,319
Speaker 1: Quame are there to make fun of Lyle, which is

842
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 1: an admirable task. Yeah, it's important to enjoy when Lyle

843
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:44,799
Speaker 1: falls into a pile of shit, But I just feel

844
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:48,799
Speaker 1: like there's like more room in the story to give

845
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 1: them more of a story or like kind of like

846
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 1: you don't even need like Lyle's goons or anything like

847
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 1: that kind of other characters to make space for them.

848
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:58,919
Speaker 1: You know, Lyle's goons, who are given far more characterization

849
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 1: and names than when they're the fucking like dog nappers

850
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:05,359
Speaker 1: from one hundred and one Dalmatians. You're just like, who

851
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 1: are these guys? Get them out of the movie and

852
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 1: like make room for people. You know. Yeah, that was

853
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 1: really frustrating. And yeah, and also like the actors who

854
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 1: played the Porters were so fucking funny. It was so

855
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 1: like every line was so good. Yeah, and then that

856
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 1: sort of like brings us to Lyle. Who is I mean,

857
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 1: I feel like Lyle. I don't know. I've we've talked

858
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 1: about the different tropes over the years of like there's

859
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 1: very often especially in like movies for younger audiences, but

860
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 1: sometimes for grown ass people as well. You know, it's

861
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 1: like you see like a huge societal issue that's like

862
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 1: completely boiled down to one character and their sins, and

863
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 1: it's like patriarchy the guy, And if you can defeat

864
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 1: patriarchy the guy, then the world turns into the windows

865
00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 1: two thousand screensaver, you know, like every think is amazing

866
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, or like capitalism the guy. We've

867
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 1: like talked about that sort of thing, and Lyle sort

868
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 1: of seems to be like colonialism the guy. And if

869
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 1: you defeat colonialism the guy, you defeat colonialism, which of

870
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 1: course is like overly simplistic and very much not true.

871
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 1: And it's also fun to watch colonialism the guy fall

872
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 1: into a pile of shit face first. Yeah, it's very satisfying. Yeah,

873
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 1: I guess I appreciate that the movie recognizes him as

874
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 1: the villain. I don't know, I mean, because like colonialism

875
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 1: is not always demonized in movies, so especially not in

876
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 1: the nineties, Like it's like glorified in the nineties very often.

877
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 1: But because but I feel like the offset of that,

878
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 1: of like making Lyle colonialism the guy that like removes

879
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 1: pressure from other white characters like Ursula, who is doing

880
00:58:57,000 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 1: like jungle tourism and like is a US fun kid

881
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 1: touring the African jungle in ways that I think is

882
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 1: like that's open for discussion, right, you know, But because

883
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 1: Lyle is so diabolical, it sort of removes the pressure

884
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 1: from other white characters in the movie from what they're

885
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 1: complicit in. True, Um, well this is a fun compo.

886
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 1: Um I did like, but but also like, okay, so

887
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:27,760
Speaker 1: Lyle is a lot of things. The guy. He is

888
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 1: colonialism the guy, which he is punished for to extent.

889
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:35,440
Speaker 1: I think that they should like kill him, but when

890
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:38,439
Speaker 1: but you can't do that in the movie. He's also

891
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 1: misogyny the guy. He comes up to Ursula the first

892
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 1: time that they speak, and he goes the jungle loves you,

893
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 1: You're beautiful, like he also tries to do. He gaslights

894
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 1: her a little later because when he shows up after

895
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:57,320
Speaker 1: she's been rescued by George, she's like, I remember what

896
00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:00,480
Speaker 1: happened when the lion showed up, Like you left or

897
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 1: like you tried to run away, And he's like, what

898
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 1: are you talking about? I was fighting the lion the

899
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:10,080
Speaker 1: whole time. You just don't remember because you were so terrified,

900
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:13,360
Speaker 1: right right, I mean he's he's the worst, and like

901
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 1: he um, you see after George takes Ursula away, he

902
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 1: knows exactly what's happened and then he like bursts a

903
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 1: bunch of berries on his arm. Um that I bet

904
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 1: if we looked up, we're not native to Africa. I

905
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 1: bet they were from like, uh, Massachusetts, but he like,

906
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 1: you know, exploded a couple of Massachusetts cranberries on his

907
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 1: forearm and is like, no, I you know, he like

908
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 1: makes up a lie, a coward. He is a very

909
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 1: effective villain because he is he is the most evil

910
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:51,240
Speaker 1: and only Holland Taylor likes him and she's the other

911
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:55,440
Speaker 1: most evil character. Yes, but I mean later in the

912
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 1: movie it's it's the other moment with the Porters that

913
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:02,480
Speaker 1: I wanted to shout out was that that does sort

914
01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 1: of come back where whenever Lyle tries to use a

915
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 1: Swahili phrasebook, he says something that makes no sense, and

916
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 1: the way that I feel like anytime someone's using a

917
01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:19,000
Speaker 1: phrasebook in a movie, they're like, I can't think of something,

918
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I know what you mean. It's

919
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 1: a it's a classic formula for yeah, and this time

920
01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 1: I was not laughing, but it only like sort of

921
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 1: makes the Porters angrier at him, and then over time

922
01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 1: they do seem determined to like bail on him and

923
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:36,880
Speaker 1: leave him for dead, which at that point is extremely

924
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:38,960
Speaker 1: earned and sort of was from the beginning, because why

925
01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 1: is he there? What is his job? That was my question,

926
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 1: what is his job? Oh? Yeah, don't. I mean, I

927
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 1: mean you could ask that question of Ursula too, because

928
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, she's a YouTuber. Well she does.

929
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 1: She's like, I have to go to work, George, so

930
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:58,440
Speaker 1: stay at my apartment. But then like she's kind of

931
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 1: just walking around like where I don't know. She goes

932
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 1: to see but when she says she's going to work,

933
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 1: she goes and says hi to her dad at the bank.

934
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 1: Oh right, which is like she's a bank heiress. That's

935
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 1: her whole things. And a round of applause for that.

936
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 1: Now I'm kidding. Um, yes, Caitlin, Bank of America. M yeah,

937
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 1: I mean, but what does any rich person's job? You know,

938
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 1: we don't know what her job is. We don't know

939
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:30,400
Speaker 1: what Lyle's job is. But what do rich people do?

940
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:35,360
Speaker 1: I don't understand. Are you defending them like I'm in

941
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 1: a way in a way the movies, No, I'm saying that. Um,

942
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm saying. I do think if

943
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:46,280
Speaker 1: this movie was made today, Ursula would be making a

944
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 1: shitty podcast. Um, can we talk about Ursula? I would

945
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:58,080
Speaker 1: love to talk about Ursula. Okay, So, like her character

946
01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:01,480
Speaker 1: exists in the story because she's Georgia Jungle romantic interest,

947
01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:06,960
Speaker 1: and so there's some interesting things happening there, such as

948
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:12,480
Speaker 1: there's the Born Sexy Yesterday trope but inverted right. Yes,

949
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:18,600
Speaker 1: they did a Ghostbusters twenty sixteen. They gender swamped that.

950
01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 1: And for anyone who's not familiar with the Born Sexy

951
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:24,920
Speaker 1: Yesterday trope, it's a like sci fi trope that or

952
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:27,760
Speaker 1: it's like mostly a sci fi trope that is characterized

953
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:34,120
Speaker 1: by usually a woman being like an alien or a

954
01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 1: like cyborg or like some kind of like sci fi

955
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:43,800
Speaker 1: thing and fallsome love the first man she meets. Generally,

956
01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:46,800
Speaker 1: it's I mean, it's like an extension of like sexy

957
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:52,120
Speaker 1: baby ideology right where it's like Bill Paxton shakes you up.

958
01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:54,280
Speaker 1: One day you're like a goo goo ga ga, and

959
01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:57,920
Speaker 1: then you're and then three days later but but but

960
01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:01,880
Speaker 1: you have like huge naturals, and one week later you

961
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:05,120
Speaker 1: marry Bill Paxton and everyone's like yeah, and then you

962
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:08,880
Speaker 1: win an oscar. It's like pretty wild. It's yeah, it's

963
01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 1: a woman who have like a fully formed, mature adult

964
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:15,000
Speaker 1: woman body but like the mind of a baby more

965
01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:17,560
Speaker 1: or less, and she has to be taught things by

966
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:19,960
Speaker 1: the first man she meets and she usually falls in

967
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:22,800
Speaker 1: love with him. He teaches her about like sex and

968
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:25,360
Speaker 1: stuff like that. Yeah, the fifth Element, I feel like

969
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 1: it's kind of like the quintessential example of that. But

970
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 1: it is really like it's a short It's like a

971
01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:33,880
Speaker 1: writing shortcut, not only if you want to underwrite a woman,

972
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:35,960
Speaker 1: but also if you want to make a very boring

973
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 1: man seem more interesting, where like you have like a

974
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:43,920
Speaker 1: really boring male protagonist and he's like, oh, yeah, this

975
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:48,200
Speaker 1: is like three plus three and then she goes, oh god,

976
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:55,360
Speaker 1: and he goes yeah. So in this case, in this movie,

977
01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:59,480
Speaker 1: it's like switched because this time it's a man who

978
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:01,760
Speaker 1: doesn't know anything and who falls in love with the

979
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:05,960
Speaker 1: first woman he sees, who he doesn't even realize is

980
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:11,480
Speaker 1: a woman until he's like cold compressing her boobs and

981
01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:15,200
Speaker 1: he's like, what are these? Well, I felt like it

982
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:17,440
Speaker 1: was like there, I mean, there is like born Sexy

983
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:20,840
Speaker 1: Yesterday traits into like the way that it's played. But

984
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 1: also I felt like the movie took a fair amount

985
01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:26,000
Speaker 1: of time to show that. It was like, even though

986
01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:31,040
Speaker 1: everything about George of the Jungles world is completely fucking

987
01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:34,160
Speaker 1: made up because it's a cartoon, but there was like

988
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:37,680
Speaker 1: some sort of exchange where like he showed her his

989
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:40,640
Speaker 1: world I thought in a more equitable way where when

990
01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:43,720
Speaker 1: she didn't understand what things were, he would just tell

991
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:46,240
Speaker 1: her what it was and like wouldn't challenge her to

992
01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:48,680
Speaker 1: Like an example that stood out to be was when

993
01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:52,480
Speaker 1: Ursula was staying in George's treehouse. He didn't pressure her

994
01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:54,840
Speaker 1: to like change the way she was dressing at all.

995
01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:57,080
Speaker 1: She was wearing her own clothes the whole time. If

996
01:05:57,080 --> 01:05:59,200
Speaker 1: she didn't understand what was going on, He's like, oh,

997
01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 1: this is what this is is And I didn't feel

998
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:04,280
Speaker 1: it lazy put like too much pressure on her to

999
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 1: join or not join. But then when George goes to

1000
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:11,000
Speaker 1: San Francisco, Ursela's like, you gotta get in ARMANI, we're

1001
01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:15,200
Speaker 1: going to Emon Marcus like she Actually, I think in

1002
01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:18,040
Speaker 1: another inverted way where I feel like you more often

1003
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:22,040
Speaker 1: see in the Bourne Sexy Yesterday trope, like the person

1004
01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:26,320
Speaker 1: who is like falling in love with the Bourne Sexy

1005
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:28,800
Speaker 1: Yesterday character, They're like, you have to assimilate to what

1006
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:32,800
Speaker 1: I'm doing. And in a way that like George doesn't

1007
01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:34,640
Speaker 1: do to her. He's just like is interested in her,

1008
01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:36,360
Speaker 1: and it's like, this is what I do. Do you

1009
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:39,040
Speaker 1: like this? And she does. But then they go to

1010
01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:42,439
Speaker 1: San Francisco and she's just like take that dress off.

1011
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:46,600
Speaker 1: You're wearing a tuxedo, and you're like to where where?

1012
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:50,320
Speaker 1: Like why does they need an Armani tuxedo? Like he

1013
01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 1: looked nice in that dress, any I mean he looked

1014
01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:56,200
Speaker 1: nice in everything he wore. It was Brendan Fraser, Like

1015
01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:59,200
Speaker 1: he looked amazing. But it was just like, I thought

1016
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:01,720
Speaker 1: it was interesting that he didn't put pressure on her

1017
01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:04,120
Speaker 1: to assemily, but that wasn't true in the reverse. The

1018
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:08,880
Speaker 1: narrator even says something like Ursula, being of a conservative

1019
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:13,800
Speaker 1: mind regarding gender roles, takes George shopping at Nieman's or whatever.

1020
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:16,920
Speaker 1: But also she's a bank heiress, so that's just hyper realism.

1021
01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:23,880
Speaker 1: Yeah you think she's voting dec she's voting blue no

1022
01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:29,600
Speaker 1: matter who. Yeah. But yeah, so so there's that interesting

1023
01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:33,760
Speaker 1: component of their relationship. But yeah, there's like there's ways

1024
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:37,959
Speaker 1: that that is subverted. Where again, in the traditional born

1025
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:40,840
Speaker 1: Sexy Yesterday trope, it would be like the man teaching

1026
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:44,480
Speaker 1: the woman about like here's how to kiss and love me.

1027
01:07:45,080 --> 01:08:00,320
Speaker 1: But there's they're gonna get I'm a virginum. But in

1028
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:03,439
Speaker 1: this case it's not like, well, first of all, he's

1029
01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:11,520
Speaker 1: learning sex from Ape, like how sex works, but it's

1030
01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:16,160
Speaker 1: just fucking with him anyways. Ape is a bully um.

1031
01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:19,160
Speaker 1: And then we go see his show in Vegas. Honestly,

1032
01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:22,680
Speaker 1: yeah sure, and then George is like, Oh, there's this

1033
01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:26,360
Speaker 1: coffee commercial that's gonna teach me how to love and

1034
01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 1: then he figures and then he figures it out on

1035
01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:37,800
Speaker 1: his own. That's what happens in the movie. What I

1036
01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:42,000
Speaker 1: guess We're just gonna let that slide. He Okay, he

1037
01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:44,680
Speaker 1: sees a coffee commercial and then what and then he

1038
01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:58,120
Speaker 1: does what. I'm not saying it's right, but his reaction is, Oh,

1039
01:08:58,120 --> 01:09:04,560
Speaker 1: this is how I'll get Ursula to love me. The

1040
01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:11,400
Speaker 1: killed Georgy said, no, don't worry about it, don't worry

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01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:14,439
Speaker 1: about it, don't worry about worry to protect them today. Okay,

1042
01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:22,679
Speaker 1: what is it? He said? You wait, you really don't know, buddy,

1043
01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:29,040
Speaker 1: one of these Oh I've heard he said. He had

1044
01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:34,400
Speaker 1: a can of vodka mule. Yeah, your Freddy and slip

1045
01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:37,240
Speaker 1: it all over the place like it's the fucking water park.

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01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:41,439
Speaker 1: I say, like he said, he fingers it out on

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01:09:41,560 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 1: his phone, which would have been really interesting to watch.

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01:09:54,320 --> 01:10:15,599
Speaker 1: Wait did everyone hear that? Yeah? Everyone heard that. Okay,

1049
01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:19,000
Speaker 1: we're gonna okay, James, No, No, we're gonna figure this

1050
01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:30,640
Speaker 1: out together. So he figures yeah on his own and

1051
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:36,640
Speaker 1: then he fingers her um, and she was like, who fuck? While, UM,

1052
01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:41,240
Speaker 1: I do I do like that Ursula like there is

1053
01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:44,640
Speaker 1: a certain amount of because like, I think there are

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01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:49,200
Speaker 1: moments within Ursula and George's relationship that are up for question. However,

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01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:53,560
Speaker 1: Cathartic I thought to see Ursula be it felt like

1056
01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:57,960
Speaker 1: her parents were pressuring her to be in a relationship

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01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:00,559
Speaker 1: with Lyle, because he was like, if like a rich

1058
01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:03,400
Speaker 1: person arranged marriage kind of thing for sure, um. And

1059
01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:05,599
Speaker 1: also they look a lot alike, and you're just like, oh,

1060
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 1: I don't want to I don't want this, um, And

1061
01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:11,320
Speaker 1: she doesn't want this. And the second she met someone

1062
01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:13,599
Speaker 1: she was actually interested in, she kind of just started.

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01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:17,879
Speaker 1: She didn't just like not care when Lyle was held captive.

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01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:21,320
Speaker 1: I loved how the second he was like, there's multiple

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01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:25,920
Speaker 1: times where she's like mentioning that Lyle's in jail on

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01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:30,800
Speaker 1: another continent but murder right, but only because it's inconvenient

1067
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:33,800
Speaker 1: to her today, She's like, well, I have to, like

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01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:36,559
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to bring Lyle, but he's in jail in Africa,

1069
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:39,000
Speaker 1: and like she just doesn't give a shit about him.

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01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:43,000
Speaker 1: And I think it is like fun to see a

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01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:45,519
Speaker 1: woman who's being forced into a marriage she doesn't want,

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01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:48,840
Speaker 1: just like get to say shit like that and be like, yeah,

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01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:53,880
Speaker 1: my Hembo's on TV at the Bay Bridge and okay,

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01:11:54,520 --> 01:12:01,559
Speaker 1: ink you San Francisco. There No, but like that, she's

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01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:04,040
Speaker 1: just like, yeah, fuck while, like I met someone I

1076
01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:07,439
Speaker 1: actually like and to see her like actually enjoy yourself

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01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:09,679
Speaker 1: a little bit. That said, I do think her family

1078
01:12:10,680 --> 01:12:15,160
Speaker 1: votes read in every single election and always has. Yeah, scary.

1079
01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:20,040
Speaker 1: Well that brings up the Okay, we've covered a lot

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01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:24,480
Speaker 1: of movies recently that involve a love triangle um specifically

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01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:27,560
Speaker 1: a woman having to choose between two men. Some of

1082
01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:29,760
Speaker 1: these episodes haven't come out yet at the time of

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01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:33,120
Speaker 1: this live show, but we've got this love triangle in

1084
01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:38,439
Speaker 1: this movie called Titanic. There there's and we've never covered

1085
01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:41,720
Speaker 1: it before. That's so weird, but yeah, there's a love

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01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:44,559
Speaker 1: triangle in Georgia the Jungle. We have an upcoming episode

1087
01:12:44,680 --> 01:12:48,000
Speaker 1: on Sweet Home Alabama, where there's a love triangle. We

1088
01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:51,160
Speaker 1: have an upcoming episode on something New, and then of

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01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:56,920
Speaker 1: course Titanic. Let's take a little detour to examine the

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01:12:57,000 --> 01:13:02,000
Speaker 1: parallels between George or the Jungle and Titanic. Shy, because

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01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:06,599
Speaker 1: I mean it's nineteen ninety seven, literally the same year,

1092
01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:09,840
Speaker 1: and Georgia the Jungle comes out first, and so I

1093
01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:14,040
Speaker 1: have to imagine James Cameron in his forty five story

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01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:19,200
Speaker 1: tall house underground, shaking in his boots when he sees

1095
01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:22,479
Speaker 1: this damp. He's like, oh no, they're coming for me.

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01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:27,720
Speaker 1: Because the parallels are shocking, are shocking. Yes, starting with yeah,

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01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:32,920
Speaker 1: curly haired high society woman is engaged to an evil

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01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:37,640
Speaker 1: rich man and his hair it's flopping around and he

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01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:43,760
Speaker 1: and he can stop saying fiance. Yes. Then we've got

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01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:47,920
Speaker 1: another man who has no material wealth and and so,

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01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:55,759
Speaker 1: and in one of the movies, no material who saves

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01:13:55,840 --> 01:14:00,559
Speaker 1: the rich woman from death m okay, and she starts

1103
01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:03,439
Speaker 1: to fall in love with this quote unquote poor man.

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01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:06,439
Speaker 1: I mean you said that, like George of the Jungle

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01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:20,000
Speaker 1: had money somewhere, not actually poor Yeah, right, okay. Then

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01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:24,080
Speaker 1: the poor man gets a makeover and tries on a

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01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:27,400
Speaker 1: suit to adhere to the standards of the rich people.

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01:14:27,600 --> 01:14:31,759
Speaker 1: M Okay, then we've got the woman has an uptight

1109
01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:37,240
Speaker 1: mother with a Transatlantic accent who tries to keep her

1110
01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:40,080
Speaker 1: daughter away from the poor man so that the rich

1111
01:14:40,439 --> 01:14:46,200
Speaker 1: daughter will marry the evil rich fiance. The poor man

1112
01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:50,000
Speaker 1: has to save the rich woman from a boat catastrophe

1113
01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:55,800
Speaker 1: at the end, and how and to give George of

1114
01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:59,280
Speaker 1: the Jungle the edge in this regard only how amazing?

1115
01:14:59,360 --> 01:15:02,960
Speaker 1: What did it happen if Jack Dawson had whacked into

1116
01:15:03,040 --> 01:15:11,080
Speaker 1: one of those smokestacks, that was a bigness. What if

1117
01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:15,280
Speaker 1: Jack Dawson Kareem's into one of those Titanic smokestacks, And

1118
01:15:15,439 --> 01:15:21,040
Speaker 1: that's what this is, That's what knocks it over kills Fabricio. Whoa,

1119
01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:26,920
Speaker 1: They're like, watch up for that. Yeah, I mean Jack

1120
01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:37,280
Speaker 1: Jack Jacob Titanic. It rights itself, my fiance. And then

1121
01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:40,200
Speaker 1: the final thing I noticed is that the rich lady

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01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:42,880
Speaker 1: wears a necklace with a jewel on it, and that

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01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:47,160
Speaker 1: necklace is called attention to several times. Yes, and Georgia

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01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:50,200
Speaker 1: the Jungle also has his own his own necklace. And

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01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:53,639
Speaker 1: I liked that bit where Ursula makes a little assumption

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01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:56,679
Speaker 1: about him and is like, oh, did you I forget

1127
01:15:56,760 --> 01:15:59,120
Speaker 1: what the animal? He did? You fight a crocodile? Yes?

1128
01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:01,600
Speaker 1: And then he's like, I did a dental procedure on

1129
01:16:01,680 --> 01:16:05,679
Speaker 1: the crocodile. They're like, okay, Brendan Fraser literal genius. Interesting,

1130
01:16:06,040 --> 01:16:08,439
Speaker 1: He's not going to go out there and fight. He's

1131
01:16:08,479 --> 01:16:11,800
Speaker 1: so gentle and so sweet. I guess to sort of

1132
01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:15,599
Speaker 1: put a button on how their relationship. I think, honestly,

1133
01:16:16,040 --> 01:16:18,920
Speaker 1: there's a lot of movies that came out this same

1134
01:16:19,040 --> 01:16:24,240
Speaker 1: year that did much worse with building a convincing and

1135
01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:28,479
Speaker 1: like somewhat equitable relationship. I at least get why George

1136
01:16:28,479 --> 01:16:30,960
Speaker 1: and Ursula like each other. It doesn't feel I mean,

1137
01:16:31,240 --> 01:16:33,719
Speaker 1: in a movie that feels really really forced and contrived

1138
01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:36,080
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways on purpose, I thought it

1139
01:16:36,160 --> 01:16:39,240
Speaker 1: was good. Like I just they're sweet together. And also

1140
01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:42,639
Speaker 1: I feel like trust fund kids and people who grew

1141
01:16:42,760 --> 01:16:47,720
Speaker 1: up and were raised by like monkeys have a lot

1142
01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:52,280
Speaker 1: in common, and they're both sort of like we we

1143
01:16:52,439 --> 01:16:55,720
Speaker 1: both don't know how the world works, and let's not

1144
01:16:55,960 --> 01:16:58,479
Speaker 1: follow rule. Rules aren't applied to us, you know, And

1145
01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:03,200
Speaker 1: in that way it's kind of beautiful. They're both so sexy.

1146
01:17:03,320 --> 01:17:07,439
Speaker 1: I don't know. I had a quick thing about Brendan

1147
01:17:07,479 --> 01:17:11,479
Speaker 1: Frasier in this movie specifically because there was Brendan Frasier.

1148
01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:13,880
Speaker 1: He's going through you know, he's going through his renaissance,

1149
01:17:14,439 --> 01:17:16,800
Speaker 1: and yeah, we said I did not come up with that,

1150
01:17:16,920 --> 01:17:21,320
Speaker 1: but I wish I had. But Brendan Frasier is like

1151
01:17:21,439 --> 01:17:25,960
Speaker 1: experiencing this resurgence and the movie he's resurging for we

1152
01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:29,880
Speaker 1: don't have time, but he is experiencing our resurgence and

1153
01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:32,760
Speaker 1: people are excited about it. So he's been talking a

1154
01:17:32,840 --> 01:17:36,160
Speaker 1: lot about sort of his like first Hollywood like Leading

1155
01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:38,519
Speaker 1: Man Heyday and Georgia the Jungle is kind of like

1156
01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:41,040
Speaker 1: smack in the middle of that. And I found an

1157
01:17:41,080 --> 01:17:44,760
Speaker 1: interview from late last year where I mean, I guess,

1158
01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:47,360
Speaker 1: like even us, like when we talk about Georgia of

1159
01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:50,360
Speaker 1: the Jungle, it's like Brendan Frasier is ripped in that movie,

1160
01:17:50,479 --> 01:17:54,920
Speaker 1: like he's so Hollywood handsome that it's like he's he's

1161
01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:59,000
Speaker 1: basically naked the whole movie, like it's it's wild. And

1162
01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:03,040
Speaker 1: he did one of the actor on actor interviews with

1163
01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:06,880
Speaker 1: Adam Sandler late last year and talks about like how

1164
01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:09,320
Speaker 1: he had a full blown eating disorder for the entire

1165
01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:11,200
Speaker 1: time of this movie, and to the point where it

1166
01:18:11,320 --> 01:18:15,080
Speaker 1: like affected his like ability to just like for his

1167
01:18:15,240 --> 01:18:19,160
Speaker 1: brain to work. I look, it's late in the show

1168
01:18:19,240 --> 01:18:23,040
Speaker 1: and I'm bringing this up, but he said that he

1169
01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:26,720
Speaker 1: starved himself of carbohydrates for months at a time, which

1170
01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:29,040
Speaker 1: is really dangerous to look the way that he does.

1171
01:18:29,160 --> 01:18:31,439
Speaker 1: In George of the Jungle, he said, quote, I would

1172
01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:34,280
Speaker 1: drive home after work and stop to get something to eat.

1173
01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:36,439
Speaker 1: I needed some cash one time, and I went to

1174
01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:39,080
Speaker 1: the ATM and I couldn't remember my pin number because

1175
01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:41,920
Speaker 1: my brain was misfiring, and so I didn't eat that night.

1176
01:18:42,760 --> 01:18:49,200
Speaker 1: And yeah, okay, guys, he's fine. Now, it's just remember

1177
01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:54,400
Speaker 1: back to when I accidentally said finger. But I did, like,

1178
01:18:54,479 --> 01:18:57,760
Speaker 1: I think that Brandon Fraser is kind of one of

1179
01:18:57,880 --> 01:19:03,439
Speaker 1: the few Hollywood leading men who has actually spoken to

1180
01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:05,400
Speaker 1: this in terms of, like we talk about it all

1181
01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:08,920
Speaker 1: the time, because I do think it disproportionately affects women

1182
01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:12,479
Speaker 1: and fems, but it does also affect men, and Brendan

1183
01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:13,960
Speaker 1: Fraser is kind of one of the only people that

1184
01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:16,200
Speaker 1: has sort of spoken to that over the years on

1185
01:19:16,280 --> 01:19:19,160
Speaker 1: a number of issues. And the other person who has

1186
01:19:19,280 --> 01:19:25,400
Speaker 1: interestingly is Zachster, who we love. He also said that

1187
01:19:25,479 --> 01:19:29,120
Speaker 1: he went for years without ever eating carbs and saying

1188
01:19:29,160 --> 01:19:32,560
Speaker 1: that like it affected his brain and ability to do

1189
01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:36,040
Speaker 1: basic things. And then he spoke about this, I think

1190
01:19:36,160 --> 01:19:40,479
Speaker 1: ironically and also m really in a funny way when

1191
01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:44,720
Speaker 1: they revealed his wax sculpture of his like abs at

1192
01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:48,439
Speaker 1: Madame Tissot's, He's like, yeah, whooo, I think this is

1193
01:19:48,600 --> 01:19:52,320
Speaker 1: very dangerous though, which is like pretty iconic to do

1194
01:19:52,520 --> 01:19:57,720
Speaker 1: to undercut the event so severely. But but like, you know,

1195
01:19:57,840 --> 01:20:00,800
Speaker 1: it's like the there there are on the pressures put

1196
01:20:01,240 --> 01:20:04,240
Speaker 1: on um people of all genders who are expected to

1197
01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:07,519
Speaker 1: look a very particular way. And this movie is you know,

1198
01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:11,320
Speaker 1: even if you love it, which I do, I love

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01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:20,120
Speaker 1: the part when he fingers the cone um, but like it.

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01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:24,439
Speaker 1: You know, I appreciated that he he's able to and

1201
01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:27,439
Speaker 1: that like there has been sort of I guess enough

1202
01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:31,040
Speaker 1: of a cultural shift, not entirely, but it's some some

1203
01:20:31,200 --> 01:20:33,479
Speaker 1: sort of cultural shift where he's he feels like he

1204
01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:37,120
Speaker 1: can he can talk about it now. M Yeah wow.

1205
01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:39,800
Speaker 1: But here's a question, Yeah, does this movie pass the

1206
01:20:39,880 --> 01:20:43,760
Speaker 1: backdel tists not to go full bamby what was my

1207
01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:49,439
Speaker 1: name Bamby orwell Bamby orwell I like that you made

1208
01:20:49,439 --> 01:20:54,360
Speaker 1: it up. So yeah, it does pass the Backdel test.

1209
01:20:54,520 --> 01:20:59,800
Speaker 1: In the scene where Uh Ursula's mom, who is named

1210
01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:05,200
Speaker 1: Beatrice I believe, Uh says do you have a fever,

1211
01:21:05,400 --> 01:21:08,200
Speaker 1: how's your temperature? What color is your tongue? And what

1212
01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:12,000
Speaker 1: is your vagina like right now? And in so many words?

1213
01:21:12,200 --> 01:21:16,599
Speaker 1: And um, she says in the Pig movie, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1214
01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:21,120
Speaker 1: and Ursula says, it's all normal. First of all, what

1215
01:21:21,320 --> 01:21:26,160
Speaker 1: even is a quote unquote normal vagina? Ursula. Secondly, it

1216
01:21:26,280 --> 01:21:33,240
Speaker 1: does pass the Backtel test. You're nitpicking there, Ursula, I

1217
01:21:33,280 --> 01:21:35,400
Speaker 1: should have said in the movie and to me, here's

1218
01:21:35,439 --> 01:21:39,840
Speaker 1: what a normal vagina means, and then describes her on

1219
01:21:40,760 --> 01:21:42,320
Speaker 1: to her and she was like, and then it got

1220
01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:48,680
Speaker 1: fingered by by George. You're happy. Um, yeah it does.

1221
01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:51,519
Speaker 1: It passes a couple different times, but that was my

1222
01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:55,320
Speaker 1: favorite by a long shot. You would think with the

1223
01:21:55,600 --> 01:21:59,280
Speaker 1: best friend character Betsy, it would pass more. Here's where

1224
01:21:59,320 --> 01:22:01,960
Speaker 1: I found it past. The only time between the two

1225
01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:08,720
Speaker 1: of them in multiple scenes together, Hello Hello, which is

1226
01:22:08,800 --> 01:22:12,200
Speaker 1: narratively impactful because we hadn't seen her before. That's true.

1227
01:22:13,320 --> 01:22:16,719
Speaker 1: But other than that, She's like, hello, Hello, Hubba Hubba,

1228
01:22:17,920 --> 01:22:19,560
Speaker 1: and then that just kind of like that's kind of

1229
01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:22,080
Speaker 1: the rest of the movie. Yeah, so it's not it's

1230
01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:24,360
Speaker 1: not an extreme past. I well, I wanted to give

1231
01:22:24,360 --> 01:22:27,000
Speaker 1: a quick shout out there. There were two credited writers

1232
01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:30,519
Speaker 1: on this movie. Um, one of whom is a woman,

1233
01:22:30,640 --> 01:22:34,840
Speaker 1: Audrey Wells, who wrote a number of kind of classics

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01:22:35,000 --> 01:22:38,919
Speaker 1: of the aughts. She also wrote Disney's The Kid, Remember

1235
01:22:39,040 --> 01:22:42,400
Speaker 1: that one she wrote under the Tuscan Sun. My mom

1236
01:22:42,520 --> 01:22:47,000
Speaker 1: got so fucked up over that one. Shall we dance?

1237
01:22:47,240 --> 01:22:52,640
Speaker 1: Same story? And Um. Then the last screenplay shot up

1238
01:22:52,640 --> 01:22:55,320
Speaker 1: before she passed away in twenty eighteen was The Hate

1239
01:22:55,320 --> 01:23:00,559
Speaker 1: You Give. So she's a very legendary, respected, wonderful screenwriter

1240
01:23:00,880 --> 01:23:03,400
Speaker 1: that was gone too soon. So it was nice that

1241
01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:07,200
Speaker 1: there there was. And I feel like, you know, even

1242
01:23:07,240 --> 01:23:10,000
Speaker 1: though I wouldn't say that you could make a mad

1243
01:23:10,120 --> 01:23:15,080
Speaker 1: max argument that this is really a woman's story, there

1244
01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:18,120
Speaker 1: are I mean, I think like, because of Audrey Wells's work,

1245
01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:20,680
Speaker 1: I would guess that that women are you know, more

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Speaker 1: present in the work than they would have been otherwise.

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Speaker 1: M true, very true. Yeah. What about our nipple scale? Though?

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Speaker 1: Are the one metric metric where we rate the metric

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Speaker 1: movie WHOA Lord Are the Rings? Reference Jamie, I cannot

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Speaker 1: answer any follow up cross Well, this is our metric

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Speaker 1: where we rate the movie on a scale of zero

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Speaker 1: to five nipples based on how affairs Looking at it

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Speaker 1: from an intersectional feminist lens um, I would say, hmmm, this,

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Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, I mean, I'll let me talk through

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Speaker 1: it for a moment. We've got is Ursula damseled a

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Speaker 1: number of times? Does she think constantly? But does she

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Speaker 1: also later save George at the end for one second

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Speaker 1: and then and then he she does pass out, and

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Speaker 1: then he also drops her and she's like, I want

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Speaker 1: to tell you that I love you, and he's like,

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Speaker 1: there's no time to talk right now, and then he

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Speaker 1: drops her on the ground, and then he keeps fighting

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Speaker 1: the bad guys. So that's not maybe the best. It's

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Speaker 1: not the best when he licks her face while she's unconscious,

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Speaker 1: and yet I am rooting for them. Mistakes were made, okay,

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Speaker 1: because well, I was starting to talk about like the

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Speaker 1: love triangle relationship dynamic that's so prevalent in so many

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Speaker 1: movies where it's just like, yeah, I want her to

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Speaker 1: pick George obviously, and I do hope they stay together forever.

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Speaker 1: If away just like make halland Taylor upset. Um and

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Speaker 1: I know, I mean not the real Holland Taylor. I

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Speaker 1: want her to be so happy, for sure. But but yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: I mean I I was rooting for that relationship. It

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Speaker 1: seems like they were happy together, although you know she

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Speaker 1: unquestionably I don't know. I mean, I guess it would

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Speaker 1: have been worse if George moved to Sam I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: there would it would have been worse. I just really

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Speaker 1: I remembered where we were. No, but like, it makes

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Speaker 1: more sense that she would move there than he would

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Speaker 1: move to where she was, because it seemed like she

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Speaker 1: didn't want to be there anyways, right, But yeah, it

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Speaker 1: does mean that she has to give up her question

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Speaker 1: mark job. She has to give up her job and

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Speaker 1: family that she loves. But I don't know that she

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Speaker 1: loves her family or has a job. And that's a

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Speaker 1: conversation for another day. Sure sure, sure, um, So we've

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Speaker 1: got that, We've got the very underdeveloped characters of the

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Speaker 1: Porters and mister Quame a general misrepresentation of Africa in general,

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Speaker 1: for sure, and in a movie that largely takes place

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Speaker 1: in Africa to be mostly about white people, is um.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's a very Hollywood thing to do, but

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Speaker 1: it's not. We don't like it. It's bad. How many

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Speaker 1: fingers are you going to give the movie? Um? I'll

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Speaker 1: give it one and a half fingigers. And where are

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Speaker 1: you putting those fingers? Well, I think it's important that

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Speaker 1: I give one or I put I put a finger

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Speaker 1: into our special guests on the show Bamby. They would

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Speaker 1: love in that. Oh my god, they would flip. And

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Speaker 1: then my half finger, just the tip I will put

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Speaker 1: this is horrible. Um, I'll put my half finger into No.

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Speaker 1: I'm just okay. No, you said into no one, no

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Speaker 1: one told you to do that. I'll put it into George.

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Speaker 1: What about you, Jamie? Where are you putting your fingers?

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Speaker 1: I look, this has nothing to really do with my

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Speaker 1: intellectual opinion. I just wanna you know, I'm I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: throwing in two fingers because I want to have a

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Speaker 1: good time one and a half. Come on, we're already here.

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Speaker 1: You true fair for what? Okay, I'm gonna give it.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it two fingers, and I'm gonna give them. Well,

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Speaker 1: I guess I don't know. You know, I'm gonna give

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Speaker 1: them both to Betsy because it seems like she really

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Speaker 1: wanted to do something with her fingers for sure, and

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Speaker 1: I wish her the best in her future fingering endeavors.

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Speaker 1: And I think that that's feminist of me to do

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Speaker 1: DoD feminine finger Um. So that is where the recording

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Speaker 1: cuts off. Luckily we were almost done with the show. Um,

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Speaker 1: the part that got cut off, it is just us

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Speaker 1: saying thanks to everyone who came out to the show,

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Speaker 1: Thanks again to SF sketch Fest for having us, Thanks

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Speaker 1: to our special guests Lauren D. Titanic and Bambi orwell

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Speaker 1: was that your fake name, Jamie Bambi orwell, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think that those that okay, fake name, Hello, I'm so sorry,

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Speaker 1: those are real people, our friend Kaitlyn d. Sorry, Lauren D. Titanic, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: which is um not at all even close to being

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Speaker 1: an anagram of Kaitlyn Durante, so don't even try to

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Speaker 1: make that connection. And Bambi or will like literally just not.

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Speaker 1: It's just that's just the name of a human woman

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Speaker 1: and a woman in stems, so watch your mouth, and

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01:29:22,080 --> 01:29:26,080
Speaker 1: a real person. So yeah, and a real human person

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Speaker 1: is the best I can say for her, yeah, other

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Speaker 1: than that she's I'm afraid of her. But thank you

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Speaker 1: to Lauren and Bamby for lending their their cat facts,

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Speaker 1: their animal facts in general. Depending on how much you

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Speaker 1: hate them. Maybe they'll be back someday. Yeah, let us know,

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01:29:43,479 --> 01:29:47,920
Speaker 1: really currently unclear if they be welcome back. Let us

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01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:53,840
Speaker 1: know how horrified you were by those real people. And

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Speaker 1: while you're at it, give us five stars on Apple Podcasts. Yeah,

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01:29:58,800 --> 01:30:01,439
Speaker 1: because that's always a nice thing to do, And be

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Speaker 1: on the lookout for more live show episodes that we

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Speaker 1: again will be releasing soon, and like always, check us

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Speaker 1: out on Twitter and Instagram. You can subscribe to our

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Speaker 1: Patreon aka Matreon at patreon dot com slash Spectecast, where

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01:30:19,840 --> 01:30:22,600
Speaker 1: you will get two bonus episodes every single month for

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Speaker 1: five dollars a month, plus access to the entire back

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Speaker 1: catalog of all the Matreon bonus episodes. Yay, all right,

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Speaker 1: we will We'll see you next week. Bye bye,