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Speaker 1: So we split up the podcast today. A little something

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Speaker 1: But I did want to start with this because I've

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Speaker 1: thought about this for a long time. You know, football basically,

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Speaker 1: I mean, there are a couple examples, and now with

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Speaker 1: born in America, plays college football, and I would say large,

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Speaker 1: large percentage, close to like ninety nine percent. Their families

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Speaker 1: live in this area too, so they get to stay here,

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Speaker 1: they get to make money, here. It's a pretty easy

491
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Speaker 1: transition where in basketball and in baseball. To make the

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Speaker 1: most money possible, if you are a great player, you

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Speaker 1: have to come from Cuba, from the Dominican, from Japan,

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Speaker 1: from wherever, and come to America in baseball. Or look

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Speaker 1: at Eastern Europe, Djokich, Luka. All the international players who

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Speaker 1: have become stars have to come to America to play.

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Speaker 1: It's why Djokich takes a bunch of shit for I

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Speaker 1: don't know why I'm saying Jokich Jokic to leave in

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Speaker 1: the offseason and he goes immediately right when the season

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Speaker 1: enjoys it.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I would too.

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Speaker 1: He did not choose, like if all things were equal, right,

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Speaker 1: he would have just stayed in his home country and

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Speaker 1: made fifty million dollars a year and played in the

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Speaker 1: best league possible. But that doesn't exist. Think how many

507
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Speaker 1: of us are so lucky that we can excel in

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Speaker 1: our profession, help in the town we grew up in,

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Speaker 1: let alone, the choice to kind of move wherever we

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Speaker 1: want to do in this country and make money. That

511
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Speaker 1: is not the case if you're a professional athlete in

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Speaker 1: baseball or basketball internationally, you got to come to America

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Speaker 1: because that's where the cash is. And it's no different

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Speaker 1: in golf the PGA Tour. While it is a worldwide sport,

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Speaker 1: the majority of the money on that tour beside a

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Speaker 1: couple events a year, and they don't own the Open

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Speaker 1: is played here. So guys like Rory and Shane Lowry

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Speaker 1: and Tommy Fleetwood and the list goes on and on,

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Speaker 1: back to when I was a kid. Guys like Ernie

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Speaker 1: Els or Ratief Goosen or Padrick Harrington. We're not born here,

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Speaker 1: but they were some of the best players and they

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Speaker 1: moved here to play on the PGA Tour. And it

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Speaker 1: can't be the easiest transition, you don't know. Imagine if,

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Speaker 1: like John, the only place you can have success podcasting

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Speaker 1: would be you have to move to Germany. Like that

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Speaker 1: wouldn't be my first choice. But if I want to

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Speaker 1: do this and I could have a lucrative career and

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Speaker 1: this is what I'm good at, it's like, what would

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Speaker 1: be my other options? And Rory McElroy the moment after

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Speaker 1: he won the Masters of Walking Up and the hug

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Speaker 1: he gave with Shane Lowry, which anyone that follows the

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Speaker 1: sport knows like they've been friends for a long long

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Speaker 1: time and on full swing. They talked about it, their relationship,

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Speaker 1: and it was I've only watched like, I think, like

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Speaker 2: The plane when I got married to Nashville.

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Speaker 1: But their relationship seems like pretty cool and seems pretty

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Speaker 1: special and seems kind of important when you're not from

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Speaker 1: here to have people in your life that can relate

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Speaker 1: to you and view you not as the multi million

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Speaker 1: dollar superstar, but as like the guy that Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: nothing and we were just hitting balls on some crappy

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Speaker 1: range in Ireland. And obviously the relationship you know, Tommy

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Speaker 1: Fleetwood or Justin Row, some of these guys he didn't

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Speaker 1: grow up around. But from an international standpoint, most of

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Speaker 1: these individuals live in America, and I actually think Tommy

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Speaker 1: Fleetwood live in Dubai, which maybe it's a different player,

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Speaker 1: but most of these guys live in Florida, and I

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Speaker 1: just think we don't talk about that enough of like

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Speaker 1: that can't be easy, now, I get it.

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Speaker 2: These guys.

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Speaker 1: It's not like the language barrier like you would have

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Speaker 1: for Shoheu Tani or you know someone from the Dominican.

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Speaker 1: But I just think about and listen, I live in

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Speaker 1: a state that are where people I didn't grow up

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Speaker 1: are around me. But many of you that listen that

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Speaker 1: have either in law or your parents, or your brothers

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Speaker 2: Like that is.

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Speaker 1: It can have its disadvantages, but it definitely can have

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Speaker 1: its advantages. And at times, especially in your lower moments,

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Speaker 1: you know you seek some comfort, you need some comfort.

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Speaker 1: And Rory talked about it with his Caddy, who's one

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Speaker 1: eight years old, who's taken a lot of crap over

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Speaker 1: the years for not being like a good enough caddy.

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Speaker 1: Even though I think Rory's success kind of speaks for

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Speaker 1: itself of like, yeah, it's kind of important in a

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Speaker 1: probably do the same. And now I think, big picture,

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Speaker 1: when you look at this player, the best part about

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Speaker 1: individual sports are where a guy chases greatness. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the biggest individual of my lifetime would be Tiger Woods.

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Speaker 1: I would say I don't know a close second because

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Speaker 1: I think Tiger is a lot bigger than Federer, but

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Speaker 1: I think Roger Feeder would fall under that as well

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Speaker 1: of just complete dominance. Yeah, I remember watching the documentary

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Speaker 1: on Federer when other players were like, Hey, he's the

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Speaker 1: best player I've ever seen. I mean, he's just like

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Speaker 1: it just doesn't get any better. He's literally great at everything.

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Speaker 1: I always thought with Federer it's not shocking that him

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Speaker 1: but like, did Roger sweat? You know, Tiger One thing

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Speaker 1: with Tiger he sweated profusely. It's like, God, Tiger, I

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Speaker 1: mean you are and I'm a sweater too, so I

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Speaker 1: can relate. I always thought watching Roger Federer a lot

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Speaker 1: like Kawhi, It's like, is he even sweating? But we

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Speaker 1: like in individual sports when a guy just dominates and

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Speaker 1: wipes the floor with everyone else. And I do think

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Speaker 1: Rory now has an opportunity. And we talked about this

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Speaker 1: on the Reaction Pod after he won the Masters, and

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Speaker 1: no one knows and we won't know until the PGA

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Speaker 1: Championship at Quail Hollow, a tournament and a course that

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Speaker 1: he's had a lot of success on that if he

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Speaker 1: kept the pedal to the medal.

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Speaker 2: Even if he takes this week to.

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Speaker 1: Rank, hangout, family, screw around, not touch a golf club, whatever.

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Speaker 1: He could take a couple weeks off, but if he

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Speaker 2: No one's playing better.

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Speaker 1: He in twenty twenty five not debatable best player in

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Speaker 1: the world. He's won three times now, He's won the Players,

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Speaker 1: he's won the Masters, He's beat the best players consistently.

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Speaker 1: Now it doesn't mean, like I know, on the overall

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Speaker 1: world rankings, Scotty Scheffler's the best player. That's based on

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. As we sit here in the middle

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Speaker 1: of April twenty twenty five, he's the best player. And

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Speaker 1: you could argue there has been a little bit of

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Speaker 1: a gap now Scotty's starting to get a swag back.

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Speaker 1: But I do think it would be I don't want

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Speaker 1: to say an underachievement because winning majors are hard, but

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Speaker 1: it would feel like a disappointment if Rory doesn't at

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Speaker 1: least win one more major this year. We saw last

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Speaker 1: year that's very possible. Xander won two and he had

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00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 1: sudden you shoot six seventy six, you're probably out of

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Speaker 1: the tournament. So you could go three or four. But

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Speaker 1: I do think chasing like immortality now becomes a lot

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Speaker 1: more realistic. He had kind of the eight hundred pound

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Speaker 1: going to break his back. We all did on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: But now that he got over that hump, some of

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Speaker 1: talented players ever. Now he's playing the best he's ever played,

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Speaker 1: and it's pretty wide open this year Quail Hollow the

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure the first shot of the tournament he

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Speaker 1: even that five six years ago. But I think the

645
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: season becomes a lot more fascinating now simply can Rory

646
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: win another major and he's gonna be I think when

647
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: the betting shapes itself out. I looked right after the

648
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,839
Speaker 1: Masters ended, you know, Scotty was like three to one

649
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 1: to win the PGA Championship. Rory's up to five to one.

650
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 1: Would not shock me at all. If Scotty, you know,

651
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: continues to be a little bumpy for his standards based

652
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 1: on last year, they're kind of the same by the

653
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 1: time we get to the PGA Championship, both around four

654
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,919
Speaker 1: or five to one. I do think Scotty's a little

655
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 1: inflated right now, given that he hasn't won a tournament

656
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 1: this year. I'm not saying he should be ten to one,

657
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 1: but to me, him and Rory should be at a

658
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 1: dead heap going into the next major, and I'd place

659
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 1: that about five six to one, because even when you're

660
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 1: as great as Rory, being a six to one favorite

661
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 1: against a field of one hundred and fifty people is

662
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 1: pretty insane. But he's earned that, and I'm fascinated to

663
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 1: watch now, Like, can this guy you just go chase it?

664
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 1: You know? Can this guy just find himself in a

665
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: sweet spot and just rattle off three or four majors

666
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 1: the next couple of years. I'm not saying it's gonna happen.

667
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even bet on it happening, but I definitely

668
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 1: think he's equipped now if he's kind of shook all

669
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 1: the demons that have been carrying over him and hanging

670
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: over him to now just go dominate. And golf was

671
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: never bigger than when Tiger just dominated. And I'm not

672
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: saying he's gonna do it at that level, but like

673
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 1: if he could have a year where he won two

674
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: or three majors and won six seven times. I mean,

675
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:52,320
Speaker 1: part of what made Scotty season last year a little

676
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 1: underwhelming is like there was another guy on tour that

677
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: won more majors than him in twenty twenty four. It

678
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: was like Scotty Scheffler had a Tiger Woods like season

679
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 1: and one one major, which is unreal, but it was

680
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 1: also a major that he'd already won, so it wasn't

681
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 1: like he accomplished something new. And then Xander went out

682
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:11,800
Speaker 1: and won twice. And I remember Justin Thomas at the

683
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 1: end of the year, He's like, what season would you

684
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 1: rather have? And Justin was like, well, you know, as

685
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 1: a guy that's won a lot on the PGA Tour,

686
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 1: I would take the two majors in all the top

687
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 1: guys and I mean all the top guys would take

688
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: the multiple majors. Now, there are countless players on the

689
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 1: PGA Tour that would easily take six to seven wins,

690
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 1: sixty million dollars and a Master's but Jordan Speed, Justin Thomas, Ludwig,

691
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 1: all the top guys, John Rahm, you named Bryson would

692
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: take two majors in a year, even if it meant totally,

693
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 1: you know, I think when it was all said and done,

694
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: Xander made close to thirty and Scottie doubled them. Which again,

695
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: all these guys are filthy rich. So is that money

696
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:56,240
Speaker 1: changing his life? Not necessarily, But I really hope for.

697
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 2: The game of golf.

698
00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: I think the best case scenario for the sport now

699
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 1: that we're in this kind of world where the tours

700
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: are split and we only see these guys, would be

701
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 1: you know, Rory to at least even if he won

702
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 1: this next major and just give the buzz to win

703
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: the Grand Slam going into the US Open. But honestly,

704
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 1: if he just had a season where he won like

705
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 1: three or four majors, I think it would immediately validate

706
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 1: him as like we started talking like he was won

707
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: the top five players of all time, because how often

708
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 1: I think Jack and Tiger are the are the guys

709
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 1: that went the longest between majors. You know, Jack was

710
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,720
Speaker 1: seventy five to eighty six, Tiger was eight to nineteen.

711
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 1: Like eleven years between majors is a long time. If

712
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: you look historically, most top players win most of their

713
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 1: majors in a short period of time, in a three

714
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: or four year span. Hell, you look at Phil He

715
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 1: won augusta O six, He won the Masters in four

716
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,479
Speaker 1: six in twenty ten, so basically in a six year span,

717
00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 1: and he threw another PGA championship in there as well.

718
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: He won the Open a little bit later, and obviously

719
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 1: out of nowhere won the PGA championship a couple of

720
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,800
Speaker 1: years ago at fifty years old, which no one saw coming.

721
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 1: But for the most part, guys take advantage when they're

722
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: really hot, is why there was a ton of pressure.

723
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,919
Speaker 1: You know, Bryson won a couple of US Opens. John

724
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 1: Rahm won a Master's in the US Open in a

725
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: short period of time. You know, Koepka won his two

726
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: US Opens and his two PGA championships really really close together.

727
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: It was cool about, you know, seeing him win the

728
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 1: PGA a couple of years ago. But I think it's

729
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 1: pretty important right now for Rory to pounce while the

730
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: getting is good. On a gambling standpoint to this weekend,

731
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 1: I do think JT is gonna win this year, and

732
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 1: right now, going into the RBC's Heritage he's twenty to one.

733
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,720
Speaker 1: I think you remove Rory now. Scotty is the defending

734
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 1: champ and he is basically what he always is three

735
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 1: three plus three fifties. So you gotta bet one hundred

736
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,760
Speaker 1: dollars to win three fifth, which is insane in golf.

737
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 1: He easily can win this week, but I think JT

738
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 1: is gonna win now. Is he gonna win this week?

739
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I basically parlayed him. I think

740
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: last year he was fourth in this event. So he's

741
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 1: had success and he's playing really well. I'm out on

742
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 1: JT and majors like it's just kind of undeniable in

743
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 1: at the Masters, at the US Open, at the British Open,

744
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: you just can't feel great about betting on Justin Thomas.

745
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 1: But in these regular events and in these elevated events,

746
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 1: he has brought a really high level of play. I

747
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 1: think a top ten for JT to me as an

748
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 1: auto bet, and then two other guys. You know, Jordan

749
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: Speith has won year before. I think in twenty twenty

750
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 1: two he wanted a playoff against Patrick Cantley. Jason Day

751
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 1: finished top twenty last year. If you parlay JT to

752
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: top ten with Speith and Day to top twenty, you

753
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,399
Speaker 1: can get a little above ten to one odds. So

754
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 1: I threw that out there on my socials, I'm throwing

755
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,760
Speaker 1: that down. I'm also sprinkling a little on Ludwig as well,

756
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 1: but I like JT and I like Ludwig to definitely compete. Now, Scotty,

757
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 1: if you want to take that, I don't blame you.

758
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 1: You would think Scotty's gonna win sooner or later, but

759
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:12,879
Speaker 1: it's just hard for me to hammer Scotty at plus

760
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 1: three fifty. I did want to get to some mail

761
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 1: bag questions at Golopod. At Golopod is the Instagram, So

762
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna bang out a bunch right now. Question for

763
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 1: the mail bag watching the Masters and witnessing Dunlop shoot

764
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 1: a ninety. I had this debate all the time with

765
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,399
Speaker 1: my buddy, who is a scratch golfer, and I tell

766
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: him he wouldn't break ninety there. He disagrees, What do

767
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 1: you think you're shooting from the Master toos? Well, depends

768
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 1: if your buddy's like a scratch and play it at

769
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: like USC or the University of Texas, then like, yeah,

770
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:02,720
Speaker 1: he could go there and excel. But if your buddy's

771
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 1: a scratch golfer and just was like I played in

772
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 1: high school, I picked up the game and I'm just

773
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: a good player now at my country club or at

774
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 1: where I play, he'd have absolutely no chance in Master's

775
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 1: conditions to shoot ninety none, I think from their te's

776
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: I'm not a good putter. I'm a really really bad putter.

777
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,800
Speaker 1: So even if my irons and woods were working. There's

778
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 1: no way I could break one hundred. I would never

779
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 1: be able to put on those greens. They're just too fast.

780
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 1: I would three putt in. I would three and four

781
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 1: putt every green. It would be a miracle to two

782
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: putt some of those greens. The other thing is, I guess,

783
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 1: depending on how I'm swinging, I don't hit the ball

784
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,879
Speaker 1: that high. Well, if you can't hit the ball really

785
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 1: high there, how do you hold the greens? So I'm

786
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 1: like a four or five handicap, I wouldn't. There's no

787
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 1: way i'd break a hundred, especially the first time some

788
00:41:55,760 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: of those lies you got to my ball. I don't

789
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,240
Speaker 1: naturally hit a draw. I mean, ideally it's a cut.

790
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,800
Speaker 1: You gotta work the ball right to left there. I

791
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 1: don't necessarily know how to do that consistently. And if

792
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: I do, sometimes I duck hook it. It'd be in

793
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 1: the trees. I think, your buddy, that's just scratch golf.

794
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:17,760
Speaker 1: For I'd bet a thousand dollars right now from their teas,

795
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 1: their pins, their conditions, no fucking way. Two ninety How

796
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 1: long did it take you to actually feel like you

797
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: can confidently swing off the box in the fairway and

798
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: on the green. I'm two and a half years into

799
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 1: golf and I'm twenty five. It just seems impossible with

800
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,879
Speaker 1: a full time job to become semi good at the game. Yeah,

801
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: I mean it's tough. I mean I don't think you

802
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 1: ever feel completely confident. I think you do some rounds

803
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 1: when you're playing well, but half the time you're terrified

804
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 1: over the ball. You're like, I don't know what's gonna happen.

805
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 1: I don't know what's gonna go. I think that's what

806
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 1: makes the game so fun is that even the best

807
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 1: players struggle. So if you have a full time job,

808
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: like most humans do that play golf, it's gonna be

809
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: very differ. And most of us, including myself, like I

810
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 1: don't really practice that much. I just kind of play.

811
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 1: The only way to get better at golf is practice

812
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 1: and play. So I think you just got to live

813
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 1: with it. One thing I've really tried to do is,

814
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,399
Speaker 1: you know, over the last month, I've shot eighty eight

815
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 1: and I've shot seventy six, and I guess there was

816
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: one blow up actually in one hole, which I regret

817
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 1: is kind of embarrassing. Now, granted we were gambling, but

818
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 1: through a hat, through a little tantrum. It was kind

819
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 1: of just I've been getting made fun of by the

820
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 1: guys I was playing with since. But it's like, try

821
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: to enjoy yourself. Like you get outside, you get some

822
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 1: fresh air. Especially most of us work inside. Right, It's

823
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 1: just it's just an enjoyable experience. So, yeah, you're gonna

824
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,959
Speaker 1: suck or not be very good. Plus you're twenty five.

825
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: Like the best part about golf is at twenty five

826
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 1: years old, assuming you stay relatively healthy, you're gonna be

827
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 1: able to play potentially for the next fifty plus years.

828
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 1: You're not gonna be able to play tennis that long.

829
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 1: You're not gonna be able to you know, most physical activity, definitely,

830
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 1: even workouts are gonna have to dramatically change as you

831
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 1: get older. So it's probably the only activity you're gonna

832
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 1: be able to do in your seventies potentially eighties. Hell,

833
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 1: Gary Player had the first t shot at the Masters.

834
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 1: He's ninety years old. Uh finished watching Rory put on

835
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 1: the green jet. As I was rooting for Rory during

836
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 1: the playoff, I couldn't help but wonder about his conservative

837
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 1: approach after he had a four shot lead. I remember

838
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: Tiger putting a stranglehold on leads, but I don't think

839
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 1: the Tour had the same abundance of talent. Obviously, if

840
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,800
Speaker 1: he executes a little better, Rory would have been fine.

841
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 1: But I can't help. But second guess is thinking. My

842
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 1: question is do you agree with a conservative approach? And

843
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 1: if so, how much do you think you need to

844
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 1: have going to the back nine to start playing conservative? Well,

845
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 1: I think that's what makes Augusta unique is starting on

846
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 1: the back nine. I mean, if a guy gets hot,

847
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 1: he can either birdy ten or eleven, which by no

848
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 1: means or a lock. It's probably easier to birdy ten

849
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 1: than eleven. But you can birdy ten. You can birdy

850
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 1: your egle thirteen, you can birdy your egle fifteen, you

851
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 1: can you can birdy fourteen. You definitely can birdy sixteen.

852
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,320
Speaker 1: You know eighteen on Sunday, like, if you hit a

853
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:21,800
Speaker 1: good drive, very vertiable, so you can have huge swings

854
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 1: on the back nine at Augusta. And I think if

855
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 1: you're Rory, like, you play a draw, so it's pretty

856
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,800
Speaker 1: easy to just play your draw and then go for it. Okay,

857
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 1: you hit it in the drink the water. A red

858
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 1: steak penalty is not out a bounce, you can drop

859
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 1: the ball. You're chipping four and worst case scenario you

860
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:43,800
Speaker 1: get a bogie. But when you lay up and something

861
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 1: disastrous happens, as did to Rory, double comes into play.

862
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 1: So I think I've heard some people argue is like,

863
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 1: the chances of him messing up that chip in that

864
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:59,439
Speaker 1: situation are slim to none. And I would say, yeah,

865
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 1: except he did. So you hit it in the you

866
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,760
Speaker 1: hit it in Ray's Creek, which the dude from Asu

867
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 1: took a leak in who called it a river, it

868
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 1: would be the smallest river in the history of rivers.

869
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 1: That I just think on that whole, whether you're up

870
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:19,439
Speaker 1: ten or whether you're even par with someone, I think

871
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 1: that I think it's just an auto go for these guys,

872
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 1: especially Rory, who works the ball right to left like

873
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 1: that's his shot. Just let it rip, and worst case

874
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 1: scenario for him, like the chance of him going to

875
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 1: his w in the water on a second shot probably

876
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: not that high. Now, he could he could pull it

877
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 1: to the left part of the green, to the sand,

878
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 1: to the left side of the operation, but he's flying

879
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 1: the water. So I think if he'd have that back,

880
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 1: I don't think we'll ever see him lay up again

881
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 1: like that, And I don't think there's a number where

882
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 1: you lay up. Maybe if you're up like ten, but

883
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 1: three or four. One thing we've seen proven is you

884
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 1: can have three four shots swings in a couple holes

885
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 1: at the back nine there. My question is, do you

886
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 1: think we'll ever see anyone win four Majors in a

887
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 1: single season, Excluding Bobby Jones obviously, Tiger won three in

888
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,240
Speaker 1: two thousand and there have been multiple double major winners

889
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 1: in a season. I don't think it'll ever be done.

890
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I'm sure people in their

891
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 1: seventies and eighties thought Jack Nicholas would record would be

892
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: broken when Tiger came along. Yeah, I think it's probably

893
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:26,359
Speaker 1: pretty unlikely. I think the best case scenario we could

894
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 1: see would be Tiger, you know, three Majors in a year.

895
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 1: I mean Xander won two. I think Scotty definitely could

896
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 1: do it. I think Rory it's definitely possible this year.

897
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,720
Speaker 1: I mean, he's gonna be assuming everything, he stays healthy

898
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 1: and his game stays in form I mean he is

899
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:47,399
Speaker 1: going to be heavily favored and bet on to win

900
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:51,919
Speaker 1: the PGA Championship and the British Open now the US

901
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 1: Opens at Oakmont. I have a good family friend and

902
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 1: good buddies, Tyler and Scottie. Tyler played at UC Davis,

903
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 1: really good player, and in twenty sixteen he qualified. He

904
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 1: Monday qualified, played in the US Open. His brother Scotty

905
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 1: caddied for them for him then and I text him

906
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:14,280
Speaker 1: the other day Scotty.

907
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:15,760
Speaker 2: I said, how hard is this course?

908
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 1: Like, would Bryson have any chance hitting his irons like

909
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 1: he did at the US Open?

910
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 2: He said, absolutely not.

911
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 1: You bogie any hole.

912
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 2: Humit.

913
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 1: It is a I think some people consider it one of,

914
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 1: if not the hardest major course in the country. So

915
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:33,359
Speaker 1: in that scenario, it you know, Rory could be play

916
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 1: okay and good and loose. It's just the US Opens

917
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 1: a really weird Pinehurst's a unique setup, So was lacc

918
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 1: this one?

919
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,320
Speaker 2: Like, I don't know. I wouldn't.

920
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 1: I don't feel confident gambling on Rory to win that,

921
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 1: but I think the PGA Championship and the Open. I

922
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 1: think if he doesn't win one of those two, it's

923
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 1: going to be disappointing. So I'd say threes on the table.

924
00:48:58,000 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 2: I'm with you for.

925
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 1: That'd be insane if Rory were to do it, though,

926
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 1: it would uh, it would take him to legendary status

927
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 1: pretty quick. Have you ever taken Maria golfing with you?

928
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 1: If so, does she like it? And how do you

929
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 1: like it? You know, I try to separate church from state,

930
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 1: but I've taken her a couple of times.

931
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:17,280
Speaker 2: She has clubs.

932
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 1: I've played with her. One time she had a friend

933
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 1: who who brought another dude and we played who was

934
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 1: actually a good player. We had a good time, had

935
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 1: some beers. It's pretty pretty lax. She's, you know, play

936
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 1: a couple holes and then kind of get bored. It's

937
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 1: hard because, like we talked about her, she's she never plays,

938
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 1: so she it's very challenging.

939
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 2: It's hard to hit the ball.

940
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: It becomes if you never play and then go try

941
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 1: to play. And I like take her to TPC Scottsdale.

942
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 1: The holes really long. The desert, especially here in Arizona.

943
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:49,399
Speaker 1: It's like if you crank one, you're in a cactus.

944
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 1: It's just not a fun activity if you don't play

945
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 1: and you suck. So she'd rather just have a cocktail

946
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 1: and hang out. If you could play one round with

947
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:04,399
Speaker 1: any current top pro, who would it be and why, uh, well,

948
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:06,319
Speaker 1: could I shoot it for the YouTube page? Because if

949
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 1: I could do that, I would probably I would even

950
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 1: do Bryson as a little collab. I mean, you take

951
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 1: his couple million followers, or I do someone that doesn't

952
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 1: typically do that type stuff. You know, Rory took a

953
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 1: shot at the YouTubers, And if you told me I

954
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 1: could do it like this Friday, play with someone, it'd

955
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 1: be a no BRAINERD be Rory McElroy. But I think

956
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:30,879
Speaker 1: Bryson'd be pretty high up there. I think Scotty would

957
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 1: be big. But yeah, I think I think Rory or

958
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 1: Bryson is the choice. What's your two cents on why

959
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 1: live guys fell off their game when they switched, thinking

960
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 1: of Rom and Koepka. Do they not have enough competition

961
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 1: to keep them motivated? Do they have enough money and

962
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 1: they don't see the reason to pursue greatness anymore? I

963
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:53,360
Speaker 1: think Rom showed signs of life after the first round,

964
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 1: which he basically shot himself out of the tournament on

965
00:50:56,760 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 1: the first round. I do think it's hard when you're

966
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 1: playing in events that don't matter, like all these guys, Rom, Koepka, DJ,

967
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 1: They've won the biggest events in America, They've won the

968
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 1: biggest PGA tournaments from the waste Management to Memorial to

969
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 1: Rive to Torrey Pines to Majors, and then they go

970
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:22,320
Speaker 1: to live and they were really like, none of it matters.

971
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 1: And they also got hundreds of millions of dollars. So

972
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 1: think about yourself. If you have a job that takes

973
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 1: a lot of energy and a lot of focus, and

974
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 1: I pay you fifty x whatever you're making to do

975
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:42,279
Speaker 1: the same job somewhere else, but also the outcome of

976
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:44,839
Speaker 1: whatever you're doing, whether it does is a good job

977
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:48,800
Speaker 1: or bat doesn't matter. You would just like Iron shirpens Iron.

978
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 1: So like, look at the major champions over the last

979
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:55,720
Speaker 1: four majors, Bryson, who is very driven right now, clearly,

980
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 1: I mean Bryson is just a driven guy. But you

981
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: remove Bryson, the last five majors are Xander, Shoffley's one two,

982
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:09,319
Speaker 1: Scotty's one another, and Rory. So it's like those guys

983
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 1: are playing against each other constantly, where yeah, Rom and

984
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 1: Koepka DJ are playing against each other, but it's like,

985
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 1: how do they take it seriously? Shotgun starts three rounds.

986
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 1: I don't even blame them if I was Keopka, How

987
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 1: could I possibly be as dialed you couldn't. DJ clearly

988
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 1: doesn't even give a shit, which again I don't blame him.

989
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 1: I think it's probably bothering rom a lot. But like,

990
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 1: how does he dial in? Like what's he supposed to do?

991
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 1: He's used to? Like? How do I get ready? Well?

992
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 1: I play Tory Pines, I play riv I play the

993
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 1: Waste Management, I play the Players, and then going into

994
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 1: the Masters, I'm pretty dialed in. And then I just

995
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 1: go on the rotation of the top tournaments. I play

996
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 1: the RBC Tritage, I play the Memorial. Well, now it's

997
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:58,839
Speaker 1: like I'm playing some random course in Chicago. Again, that's

998
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 1: what the money was for. Though, would it be possible

999
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:06,279
Speaker 1: to get daily round recaps for all the majors from you?

1000
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 2: This year?

1001
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 1: Also sad to see Rory's day fall apart. Would anyone

1002
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 1: have expected Justin Rose to have the day he had? No,

1003
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 1: they wouldn't. I think the problem for what I do is,

1004
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 1: you know, from a podcast standpoint, it would kint. For

1005
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 1: a video standpoint, it's not a terrible idea. Maybe I

1006
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 1: could do like a ten minute recap, but I usually

1007
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 1: try to you know, we Lully snoring right there. For

1008
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 1: those of you watching, you can see her. For those

1009
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 1: of you listening, dogs on the on the couch. Just

1010
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 1: saw on logs it's a birthday tomorrow. So I brought

1011
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:49,840
Speaker 1: her into the office and sat her on the couch

1012
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:54,280
Speaker 1: and she just fell asleep. But everything we do gets

1013
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 1: double distributed on one on video and one on audio,

1014
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of work. The other thing is

1015
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:06,840
Speaker 1: on Thursday, you know, we tend to do a Friday

1016
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 1: podcast that's revolving around football. But yeah, I mean I've

1017
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 1: thought about it. I obviously like the No Laying Up

1018
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 1: guys do it, the Shotgun Stark guys do it. I

1019
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 1: follow a lot of their content, but I also have

1020
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:23,240
Speaker 1: you know, I do a unlike that these other people

1021
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 1: in golf, like I do football year round. So I'm

1022
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:29,800
Speaker 1: constantly podcasting NonStop. If I don't want to get a divorce,

1023
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 1: I have to kind of give some time to my

1024
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 1: ever growing family. Whose bag do you think would be

1025
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:38,959
Speaker 1: the most fun to caddy for on the Live Tour

1026
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 1: or on the tour or live what guys? The perfect

1027
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 1: mix of fun but would also win big and make

1028
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:47,799
Speaker 1: you a lot of cash. Phil Bryce and Aberg and

1029
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 1: Homa pre this season, all seemed to be awesome, big

1030
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:52,720
Speaker 1: winners and would totally grab a beer with you after,

1031
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 1: whereas Marikawa, Rory, J. T. Speith would be too stressful

1032
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 1: and Scotty wins a ton but seems too vanilla of

1033
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 1: a guy. I think you're underestimating the stress level would.

1034
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:04,240
Speaker 2: Be high on any of these guys.

1035
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 1: You know, Phil is fifty years old, but I think

1036
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 1: Phil would have been fun in twenty years ago. Let's

1037
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 1: face it, if you were going to do it, you

1038
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 1: would go all the way in the last twenty five.

1039
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:18,360
Speaker 1: It'd be no doubt you would want him do Tiger Woods.

1040
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:21,360
Speaker 1: I mean, it wouldn't even be a question. I would

1041
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 1: say the next guy. I think it'd be like Rory

1042
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:28,720
Speaker 1: or Phil. You would just you would choose the top guys.

1043
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 1: It's why a couple of years ago the dude left

1044
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 1: Ricky Fowler went to Tom Kim. It was like, oh,

1045
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 1: this guy's you know, upgrading a new younger guy. And

1046
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:41,360
Speaker 1: then Ludvig became available and Joe left Tom Kim immediately

1047
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 1: went to Ludvig. So I think as a caddy, none

1048
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:48,279
Speaker 1: of these guys, you know, I listened to a lot

1049
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 1: of PGA tour radio, like when I'm driving around and

1050
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 1: listen to like Rocko and guys like that have shows

1051
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 1: Lucas Glover. The day and age of these guys, like

1052
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:01,280
Speaker 1: going out for beers on Wednesday and Thursdays and Friday

1053
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:05,240
Speaker 1: like does not exist. So if you became a caddie,

1054
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 1: you would just want the best player possible. Like you,

1055
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 1: you're not. You might hang out with them sometimes on

1056
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 1: like Monday or Tuesday during the round and you're cool.

1057
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 1: But I just think you would want the best talent.

1058
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 1: I think it's just that simple. I don't even I

1059
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 1: think you're overthinking a little bit. You kind of want

1060
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 1: the perfect world. It's like you want her to be hot,

1061
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 1: you want her to be skinny, you want her to

1062
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 1: cook clean, You wanted to make a lot of money

1063
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:30,799
Speaker 1: as well, great mother. It's like that, that's not really

1064
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:34,360
Speaker 1: the way it works. I think you would just choose

1065
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:38,319
Speaker 1: best player possible. So to me, in twenty twenty five,

1066
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 1: if Rory's not available, who would be here? I think

1067
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 1: Ludwig be the next choice. Young long future career. Now.

1068
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:49,280
Speaker 1: I think guys like like Jordan Spieth, he actually seems

1069
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 1: pretty cool and pretty fun, but like you said very stressful.

1070
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 2: And too not that good anymore.

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00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:56,719
Speaker 1: Scotty, I probly che Scotty, like, yeah, Scotty hit a

1072
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 1: iron here and then he hits at five feet. I

1073
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 1: would just I wouldn't overthink any of the other stuff.

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00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 1: I would just choose who are my best players. I

1075
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 1: would just choose the best player because I think the

1076
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 1: way that historically we looked at it, like you get

1077
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 1: to play with those guys, it's or hang out with

1078
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 1: those guys doesn't exist. Why did the Masters coverage not

1079
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 1: put Bryson in a feature group last year? Brooks was

1080
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 1: in one after winning the PGA Championship. Bryceon is the

1081
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 1: reigning US Open champion, easily a top five player in

1082
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 1: the world and probably the third most popular player behind

1083
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 1: Rory and Tiger. Is it that he went to live?

1084
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 1: Is he he is more entertaining to watch? And why

1085
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 1: doesn't the broadcast start earlier? Well, the broadcast doesn't start

1086
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 1: earlier because the Masters dictates the terms. I do think

1087
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, Bryson took some shots at

1088
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:48,439
Speaker 1: Augusta called it a par sixty seven, and like, these guys,

1089
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 1: don't forget that. You know, there are rumors that They

1090
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 1: basically told the kid that pissed in the creek, like,

1091
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 1: you're never coming back here. You're done. You're done here, buddy.

1092
00:57:57,640 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 1: Now if he gets so good and starts to win tournaments,

1093
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 1: that they're not gonna be able to do it. But

1094
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 1: like it is a very and listen, I mean this

1095
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 1: with all due respect. If there are any Green Jackets listening,

1096
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 1: I love your club. I view it like heaven, and

1097
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 1: if it's ever available, I would love to come play.

1098
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 1: But it is by far. You know, it's as stiff

1099
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 1: as it gets. And I've heard stories about former athletes.

1100
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 1: One that might be a member. There are kind of

1101
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 1: a famous quarterback that's got a tongue lashing, like they

1102
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 1: don't give a shit. It has nothing. It's one of

1103
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 1: the rare super exclusive clubs that, in a weird way,

1104
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 1: money doesn't mean shit. The hardest part is getting in

1105
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 1: and it has nothing to do. Obviously, you got to

1106
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 1: be rich and famous or whatever or powerful to be

1107
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 1: in the mix. But it's not like the dues and

1108
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 1: the down payment to get in. It's not like it's

1109
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 1: ten million to join. I've heard it's like, yeah, it

1110
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 1: doesn't even matter. We might not even have to cut

1111
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 1: a check and there aren't really dues there. I think

1112
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 1: it's complicated how that works. It's not like your typical club.

1113
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:06,160
Speaker 1: But they do not screw around. They just do not.

1114
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 1: And I think the phone policy speaks for itself. In

1115
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 1: what world can you not have phones? Think about that? So,

1116
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:17,479
Speaker 1: I just think that Bryson's pissed him off years ago

1117
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 1: and they don't forget and his comments regardless of how

1118
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 1: well he did last year. You think those guys care

1119
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 1: that he has two million followers on YouTube? Like they

1120
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 1: just do not care at all? What is on the

1121
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 1: notepad for the players that they bust out? What do

1122
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:37,160
Speaker 1: they have on the notepad? Would love to know more.

1123
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 1: What sport do you think is more mentally focused than golf?

1124
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 1: So much time with your thoughts, how do these players

1125
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 1: prepare for that? And what's a good type of golf? Bet?

1126
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 1: I think top tens and top twenties are always easy.

1127
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 1: I think the only way you mentally prepare for anything

1128
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 1: is to practice as hard as possible. No different than football.

1129
00:59:57,720 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 1: It's why you go full go in practice. You know

1130
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:04,440
Speaker 1: in basketball they don't practice anymore, but historically, like practice

1131
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 1: and scrimmages were pretty intense you know, in baseball, getting ready,

1132
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 1: you do live VP and stuff like that. In golf,

1133
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 1: the only way you can prepare is to actually play

1134
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:15,920
Speaker 1: and put pressure. It's why these guys gamble. It's not

1135
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 1: necessarily to like bet other guys. It's like put pressure

1136
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 1: on putts and put pressure on shots. So I think

1137
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 1: you just build up mental reps on like I would

1138
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 1: imagine when you're young in pro golf, when you first

1139
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 1: get out to the PGA Tour, having thousands of people

1140
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 1: watch you is pretty nerve wracking. Well, one thing you notice,

1141
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 1: like after a while, all these guys, whether you're Rory

1142
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:42,880
Speaker 1: or whether you're the random guy in the tournament, are

1143
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 1: unfazed by the crowd that they are because you become

1144
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:48,920
Speaker 1: you become used to it. And I think the mental

1145
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:52,200
Speaker 1: focus you become at least understand what you have to

1146
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 1: do to dial in. And some of that's pre shot routine,

1147
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:58,400
Speaker 1: some of that's keeping the same tendencies. Some of that's breathing.

1148
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:01,080
Speaker 1: You know, Rory's talked a lot of about keeping your

1149
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 1: mouth shut in tournaments. Breathing through your nose calms you down.

1150
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 1: And those books, you know, the Masters don't allow green

1151
01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:12,360
Speaker 1: reading books, so it's a lot of just notes from

1152
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 1: your practice rounds, yardages. Just I don't know I've better

1153
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:20,360
Speaker 1: changes player to player, but it's just notes based on

1154
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 1: playing that hole throughout the week and throughout the years.

1155
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:40,760
Speaker 1: I saw a video of Jordan talking about mudballs. He

1156
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 1: was saying, you're not allowed to talk about mudballs and

1157
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 1: how it affects the ball flight contact with the club face.

1158
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:49,600
Speaker 1: If that's the case, why aren't more guys that come

1159
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:51,520
Speaker 1: out and complain about it. I feel like he's just

1160
01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 1: complaining because his play is not good recently. I agree

1161
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 1: he's not wrong. You're not supposed to use the word mudballs.

1162
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 1: A couple of years ago when they had the Masters

1163
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:03,240
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty, in the fall obviously was wet.

1164
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 2: They called it.

1165
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 1: Organic matter, I think was the term they used. I

1166
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:09,640
Speaker 1: did think he came off pretty bitter. It's like Jordan

1167
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:15,440
Speaker 1: does Rory having mudballs is justin Rose having mudballs? Has

1168
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:20,640
Speaker 1: Bryson been having mudballs like that's something? Now he's in

1169
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 1: a unique position because he's won the tournament and he

1170
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:26,800
Speaker 1: owns a green jacket. It's like they don't like that shit,

1171
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:29,600
Speaker 1: and these people have a lot of power. It's like

1172
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:32,439
Speaker 1: a secret society, but it's not secret, so I would

1173
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 1: imagine he pissed a lot of people off by saying it,

1174
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:38,680
Speaker 1: because you're right, it did come off. It didn't impact Rory,

1175
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 1: like Rory didn't say, you know, I'm thirteen, why hit

1176
01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:47,120
Speaker 1: it in the creek mudball. I'm with you there, first

1177
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:50,160
Speaker 1: time sending you a note other than I love the

1178
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:52,360
Speaker 1: dabble in my two favorite things other than my wife,

1179
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:55,520
Speaker 1: obviously football and golf. I've always loved Rory, certainly because

1180
01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 1: of his talent, charisma, etc. However, I didn't realize until

1181
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:01,520
Speaker 1: the Masters, why you so likable by the masses, at

1182
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 1: least in my opinion. I'm a scratch golfer, and I'm

1183
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 1: in awe of his prowess with the driver and overall talent.

1184
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:11,480
Speaker 1: It's truly something that average golfer can't comprehend. Totally agree

1185
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:13,919
Speaker 1: Rory's flying the ball three hundred and thirty yards. He's

1186
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:18,440
Speaker 1: five to nine. I mean, Bryson's big, DJ's big Kopka

1187
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 1: looks like a line by Roy's tiny, But the couple

1188
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:25,240
Speaker 1: wedges at thirteen and the other short miss putts make

1189
01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:29,040
Speaker 1: him seem human, so we admire his superhero talent. Yet

1190
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:32,400
Speaker 1: are endured because he is still quote unquote one of

1191
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:35,120
Speaker 1: us other than Phil. Can you think of any other

1192
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:39,160
Speaker 1: athlete that is a comp I think in golf, Jordan

1193
01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:41,560
Speaker 1: Speeth when he's playing well is a lot like that,

1194
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:44,320
Speaker 1: because Jordan can have like seven straight birdies and then

1195
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 1: he can have two straight triples. So I think Jordan

1196
01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:52,560
Speaker 1: has always had a Phil like quality too. You didn't

1197
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:55,640
Speaker 1: know what was gonna happen, which anytime you can have

1198
01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:59,120
Speaker 1: a I don't know what's gonna happen Tiger, you knew

1199
01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 1: it was inevitable. Even Mahomes and Brady they might not

1200
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:05,439
Speaker 1: always win the Super Bowl, but it's like, yeah, they're

1201
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:06,160
Speaker 1: gonna win this game.

1202
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 2: It's like inevitable, they're gonna win this game.

1203
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:11,720
Speaker 1: I mean, this Chief season was I guess they threw

1204
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 1: the last game, but they went fifteen and two, and

1205
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:16,200
Speaker 1: it was like by October you're like, yeah, they're not

1206
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:17,960
Speaker 1: gonna lose this. Yeah they're gonna figure it out like

1207
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:20,240
Speaker 1: the Broncos miss a kick. And he's like, it's inevitable.

1208
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:23,000
Speaker 1: That's the thing with golf. It's just beside Tiger, it's

1209
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:28,280
Speaker 1: not inevitable. And you never know Phil Rory anythinking app Jordan.

1210
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:30,840
Speaker 1: Remember last time he won the Open when he beat Coocher,

1211
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:34,480
Speaker 1: he pumped it. I forget where they were playing, but

1212
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:36,360
Speaker 1: he pumped it like seven holes to the right and

1213
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:38,120
Speaker 1: then still knocked it on and then he made the

1214
01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 1: putt and he pointed at Greller to get the ball

1215
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:44,320
Speaker 1: out of the hole. So I think anytime an athlete

1216
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:48,560
Speaker 1: is quote unquote relatable, it makes it more powerful. I mean,

1217
01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:52,320
Speaker 1: I would say the most powerful or popular and definitely

1218
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:58,920
Speaker 1: most lucrative athlete that does like studio television not even close,

1219
01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:02,840
Speaker 1: is Charles Barkley. And I would say Charles number one

1220
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:05,880
Speaker 1: quality is like he feels like a guy easy to

1221
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:08,720
Speaker 1: have a conversation with. And whenever he tells the story,

1222
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 1: it's like Charles, where did you get that ring you're wearing?

1223
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:15,560
Speaker 1: Or Charles, where did you get that whatever? And he's like,

1224
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:18,560
Speaker 1: oh this guy my Jim Sauna Ga. You know, it's

1225
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 1: just he can just tell stories. Like Charles Barkley feels

1226
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:24,480
Speaker 1: like a human being that if you ran into at

1227
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:28,280
Speaker 1: the store at the gas station at the seven to

1228
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 1: eleven grabbing some Dorito's and a coke zero, no free ads.

1229
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:38,120
Speaker 1: But that's usually my order if I'm feeling a little frisky.

1230
01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:40,800
Speaker 1: You could just have a five minute conversation with Charles Barklay,

1231
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:44,640
Speaker 1: and I think Rory feels like that. I think Steph

1232
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:46,840
Speaker 1: Curry has always had that element. He just seems like

1233
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:50,360
Speaker 1: an easy guy to talk to. And you know, some

1234
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:53,880
Speaker 1: people can fake it, right. I love Peyton Manning, but

1235
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:56,280
Speaker 1: some people think, you know, it's like him and Phil

1236
01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 1: have this quality. Can they fake it a little bit?

1237
01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:00,160
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I would love to talk

1238
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:01,360
Speaker 1: to Peyton or Phil.

1239
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:02,360
Speaker 2: I take my chances.

1240
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:05,800
Speaker 1: But depending on who you talk to, you rarely hear

1241
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 1: anyone say anything negative, like yeah I met Steph Curry

1242
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:11,120
Speaker 1: was a dick. Yeah I met Charles Barkley, total asshole.

1243
01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 1: It ran into Rory wouldn't talk to me, like that's

1244
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:17,600
Speaker 1: that story doesn't exist. Yet. You get Michael Jordan like

1245
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:20,280
Speaker 1: most of my which makes him like this legendary figure.

1246
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:23,040
Speaker 1: Same with Tiger. It's like Tiger took the Navy seals

1247
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:25,919
Speaker 1: out for cheeseburgers and then made them pick up the check.

1248
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:29,480
Speaker 1: So I was like, what, But he's so good. It's

1249
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:32,400
Speaker 1: like we overlook it. That's why I was so stupid

1250
01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:35,480
Speaker 1: about the story that when viral of Bryson going, yeah,

1251
01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:39,000
Speaker 1: Rory didn't talk to me. Well, yeah, Bryson, it's Sunday

1252
01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:41,520
Speaker 1: at the Masters and Rory is a two shot lead.

1253
01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 1: Did you want him to give like a breakdown of

1254
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:46,680
Speaker 1: what he feeds his daughter? Like, what do you think

1255
01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:49,840
Speaker 1: he was gonna say? It's how Tiger became a legend.

1256
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:52,760
Speaker 1: He wouldn't talk to anybody. Tony Fenales talked about this

1257
01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:55,400
Speaker 1: countless times, Like Tony tried to like say something to

1258
01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:58,840
Speaker 1: him in twenty nineteen about his kids and Tigers, just like, yeah,

1259
01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:02,840
Speaker 1: wouldn't knock to him. And obviously in by twenty nineteen

1260
01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:07,320
Speaker 1: that had been the number one driving like a storyline

1261
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:10,160
Speaker 1: with Tiger most of his career he didn't say anything

1262
01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:14,840
Speaker 1: to anybody and play dominant mining games. So yeah, yeah, Bryson,

1263
01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:17,920
Speaker 1: Rory probably doesn't like you that much. One and two,

1264
01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:21,120
Speaker 1: He's just trying to win this thing. I wouldn't be

1265
01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:24,320
Speaker 1: talking much either, and I talked for a living. Okay,

1266
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 1: last question here, my question in the wake of the Masters,

1267
01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:32,360
Speaker 1: in this if peak Tiger was one hundred out of

1268
01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:36,200
Speaker 1: one hundred, how would you rate peak Rory? How about Bryson,

1269
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:39,600
Speaker 1: Scottie and others past or present? I find it fun

1270
01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 1: to put golfers into context. Well, if Tiger, let's do

1271
01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:48,880
Speaker 1: this ten out of ten, I would say, and let's

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Speaker 1: do the twenty five years. I would say the guy

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Speaker 1: with the highest rating would be, you know, the peak

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Speaker 1: of Tiger, perfect golfer. The next would be Phil and

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Speaker 1: I would say Phil would be like nine point two,

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Speaker 1: like feels not even, it feels not. It feels getting

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Speaker 1: a minus, right, If Tiger's in a plus, so then

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Speaker 1: you have to base it off that. I would say

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Speaker 1: Rory's like a nine out of ten. I would put Scotty.

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Speaker 1: Scotty's had moments last year, but he's won the same

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Speaker 1: major twice. Again, these are really I mean, if Tiger

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Speaker 1: is a ten out of ten, that the standard doesn't

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Speaker 1: get any higher. I would say Scotty eight point six,

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Speaker 1: Bryson below him at like eight point two. And again,

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Speaker 1: these are insane standards, right, you know Bryson. Bryce is

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Speaker 1: an excellent plutter in obviously distance elite, but he can

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Speaker 1: get pretty squarely, I mean balls. Even last year at

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Speaker 1: the US Open, he was pumping balls all over the place. Now,

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Speaker 1: at any moment, he can pump it down the fairway

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Speaker 1: and knock it five feet on a six hundred yard hole,

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Speaker 1: like that's his superpower, and so can Rory. But I

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Speaker 1: would say Rory is dramatically straighter than Bryson, and his

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Speaker 1: wedges have gotten much better. So like we're seeing peak Rory,

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Speaker 1: Like this is peak Rory, and to me, he this

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Speaker 1: peak version is close to Phil. Shows you how great

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Speaker 1: Tiger was. I would say, Bryson, we haven't seen peak

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Speaker 1: Bryson yet, potentially, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean, who knows.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if this is as good as he gonna be,

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Speaker 1: this is damn good. But if he is gonna get

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Speaker 1: a higher number and be close to Rory or Phil,

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Speaker 1: he can't really work the ball right, which to me

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Speaker 1: like part of what makes Tiger a ten out of ten.

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Speaker 1: And I'd say the same with Phil. They had ever

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Speaker 1: shot in the back from t all the way to

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Speaker 1: the hole, every single shot left and right, high and low. Like,

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Speaker 1: let's face it, Bryson is gonna sound like a shot,

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Speaker 1: it's not. He's a one trick pony. He plays a

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Speaker 1: power draw, he hit and cuts right Rory again. Obviously

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Speaker 1: his go to shot is the draw, but you see

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Speaker 1: him play the cut off the tee played it on

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Speaker 1: eighteen in regulation and then again in the playoff. Like

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Speaker 1: Bryson doesn't hit that shot, I mean he just doesn't.

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Speaker 2: Which is there.

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Speaker 1: An evolution where Bryson's ever gonna work the ball both ways? Now,

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Speaker 1: just because you work the ball both ways doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: you're like some dominant player, right j T has every

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Speaker 1: shot in the bag, and he's all over the map sometimes.

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Speaker 1: But I would say Tiger ten out of ten, Phil

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Speaker 1: probably ninety two out of ten. I'd start Rory in

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Speaker 1: the nines. I'd give him a nine zero, which I

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Speaker 1: mean if he goes on to win like three Majors

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Speaker 1: this year, maybe we put him right there with Phil.

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Speaker 2: But everyone else's start with an eight. For sure.

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Speaker 1: The volume