Speaker 1: Welcome back to Good Mom's Bad Choices. I'm Erica and
Speaker 1: I'm Mela, and it's Wednesday. Happy hump Day, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 1: Happy hump Day. H u mp baby humping up and
Speaker 1: hempy hepping.
Speaker 2: Read a shirt that says hump or just happy hump
Speaker 2: day happy.
Speaker 1: I'd be weird on Wednesday, specifically, Yeah, your Wednesday shirts,
Speaker 1: your Wednesday shirt, yeah, because we drop on Wednesdays, having
Speaker 1: like your Friday shirt is like drop the goddamn kids
Speaker 1: off shirt, Like.
Speaker 2: Oh what if we oh yeah, like we did the
Speaker 2: days of the week shirts.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're doing a good job Monday, Monday, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: or like, fine mom, you're doing a good job Monday.
Speaker 2: We already have fine Mom. Okay, fine mama. Monday. Tuesday
Speaker 2: is tip me Tuesday, Tuesday. Put your cash up on
Speaker 2: the back. Hompday. Wednesday, Thursday, remember Thursday. Thursdays be Thursday, Thursday, Thursday, Thursday,
Speaker 2: or this week is almost over, bitch, thank god Thursday.
Speaker 2: That's too long, right, there's a lot of shirts. Okay,
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Speaker 1: it's not your typical merch store where like people just
Speaker 1: put their face on a shirt that you don't want
Speaker 1: to wear.
Speaker 2: No, no, we're not going to do that to you.
Speaker 2: We'd realize no one wants to wear pictures of our
Speaker 2: face on like any of the other podcasts, no shade,
Speaker 2: but nobody wants to wear a picture of your fucking face,
Speaker 2: even if you're selling thousands of them. Just let me
Speaker 2: tell you first, you'd be selling more of everyone then
Speaker 2: put your face on merchandise. Yeah, some of them are cute,
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Speaker 2: I mean, look at us. We're fashion so if you're
Speaker 2: watching this episode, you'll see we are very fashionable.
Speaker 1: Right now, I have a blonde pony on yep, my
Speaker 1: hair is blonde, so the pony has to be blonde,
Speaker 1: even though my hair is pulled back, it doesn't really
Speaker 1: look blonde. So then this pony just looks kind of absurd.
Speaker 2: It's ombre. But I have a hat on, so you
Speaker 2: can't really see what happens. You were attaching your ponytail
Speaker 2: underneath his hat this morning.
Speaker 1: And I'm really I feel like this is my new look.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get really into my pony bag. Well, I
Speaker 1: tell you, when you get in your pony bag, it's something.
Speaker 1: It just gives you bad bitch energy because I remember
Speaker 1: that full like two months I was wearing ponytails, so
Speaker 1: I feel you it gives you like a dominatrix.
Speaker 2: I'm a boss bitch. I want it even longer.
Speaker 1: I feel like I need to find to like figure
Speaker 1: out how to like extend the braid to like my
Speaker 1: knees at least.
Speaker 2: No. I support that. I really I might. You know,
Speaker 2: we might have to do like a ponytail Day is
Speaker 2: another shirt doesn't ponytail Saturday. Yeah, I'm wearing thigh hi
Speaker 2: it's raining, so this is my brainy look. I'm wearing
Speaker 2: thigh high leather boots. Pleather boots because I support animals
Speaker 2: and are good. Mom's love flower embroidered sweatshirts, very classy,
Speaker 2: and it has a sativa hybrid indica on the sleeve
Speaker 2: because it's really important, very very What are we smoking
Speaker 2: today today? This is yours. You gave this to me.
Speaker 2: This it is because it's rainy day, so we're gonna
Speaker 2: be chilling. This is also my anxiety has been up
Speaker 2: because we've been very, very busy, you guys. This last
Speaker 2: like seven days was super duper fucking intense. I thought
Speaker 2: maybe Ida wasn't gonna make it. I contemplated if I
Speaker 2: needed to get like some anxiety slash add adult prescription medicines,
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Speaker 2: I agree, And this month is all about wellness. But
Speaker 2: like I was going to say, let's do a challenge,
Speaker 2: but we're not going to do a challenge with whether
Speaker 2: it doesn't require drinking, because we're definitely drinking this month.
Speaker 2: I'm strongly committed to drinking this month and fucking. So
Speaker 2: that's strongly committed, strongly committed to drinking and fucking this month.
Speaker 2: That's not off the table, but we are still going to.
Speaker 2: You know what, I want everyone to understand that it
Speaker 2: isn't necessarily taking care of yourself. This I mean depriving
Speaker 2: yourself of stuff all the time. You can eat what
Speaker 2: you want to and also take care of yourself. Today,
Speaker 2: we got an elixir, Ah Bitter's Elixir in the mail
Speaker 2: from a tribe member. She was so kind to send
Speaker 2: us this bitters js Sewell the alchemist. This packaging is cute,
Speaker 2: It's super cute. She has an instagram at basted Protector
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Speaker 2: totally chop that up. But I'm let's take an it.
Speaker 2: It's good for you.
Speaker 1: Wait, it does have directions here says take two caps
Speaker 1: full to a glass of water twice daily.
Speaker 2: I just just to put it in the water, just
Speaker 2: to drink it with water. I don't know, but we
Speaker 2: don't have any water, so let's just do. It's gonna
Speaker 2: go straight to the head, Okay. It's an herbal rum
Speaker 2: tonic infused with hondorn and bush herbs to reap health
Speaker 2: benefits of blood purification, removal of intestinal parasites, detoxing the prostate,
Speaker 2: improving hormonal balance, and hangovers. Bitches need to be balanced,
Speaker 2: so pour it up.
Speaker 1: Thank you, wife, you welcome. I just want to say, also,
Speaker 1: I hope this isn't poisonous. If it does and we're
Speaker 1: dead by the end of this episode, it's because we
Speaker 1: because we trust people from the internet and beverages.
Speaker 2: Well, honestly, I just feel like our tribe is protected
Speaker 2: and no one's going to try and kill us. But
Speaker 2: if you do, now everybody knows. Cheers to more health
Speaker 2: April Wellness, Wednesday, wellness April. Oh shit, that's okod that's good.
Speaker 2: I can tell it's gonna work.
Speaker 1: That is cleaning my blood bitch for sure. Whoa m okay, well,
Speaker 1: that's good though. I have to like that's like a
Speaker 1: cinnamon e some cinnamum taste or something. Okay, I w
Speaker 1: I need to they'll wake you up in the morning.
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Speaker 1: want to support the moms and small businesses, small businesses,
Speaker 1: because we're a small business and.
Speaker 2: That's kind of how we've grown just having our friends
Speaker 2: help us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, closed mouth, don't get fed, don't
Speaker 1: be nervous, because that's the only reason this podcast is
Speaker 1: last for four years, because me and Mila just keep
Speaker 1: asking people for shit.
Speaker 2: Don't ask us for too much shit, not too much.
Speaker 2: Don't ask us for dumb shit. If you have, like
Speaker 2: if you have a real business and you're really trying,
Speaker 2: please but don't be like just on some bullshit. And
Speaker 2: here's a tip to keep the email short, very short.
Speaker 2: We have very I mean, I just told you I learned.
Speaker 2: I think in the beginning of our business, we were
Speaker 2: fucking sending epic long emails. Bitch, nobody was writing those emails.
Speaker 2: No one wrote us back. Yeah, good, Like, let's you
Speaker 2: have a little hair on your nose. My hair shed's
Speaker 2: like really intensely. Oh my god, I was having like
Speaker 2: relaxer Gil again, could I take my hair down? And
Speaker 2: I like this, first of all, so much of my
Speaker 2: hair came out because I had those ship those foe
Speaker 2: locks in for like three fucking months, and I was
Speaker 2: on the Funk FaceTime with the Luna and she's like,
Speaker 2: why is your hair straight? And I was like, not
Speaker 2: this again. She's noticing. It's like I'm a sellout. I
Speaker 2: was like, I'm just gonna shave my head and start over.
Speaker 2: And I was like, no, you're not, You're lying. I'm vain,
Speaker 2: and so I just haven't. I haven't stopped relaxing my hair.
Speaker 2: And then the inner like natural black girl in me
Speaker 2: is against the not so natural black girl in me. Well,
Speaker 2: how would you have your hair if it wasn't this way?
Speaker 2: Like it would be just like a curly shortcut. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, I've done it, but but
Speaker 2: you didn't like it. I did. I was pregnant. It
Speaker 2: was wholesome, id I just wholesome. I looked very young, okay,
Speaker 2: and wholesome. Yeah. Well, you know I have had less versatility.
Speaker 2: I guess not really, this is only hair. Still I
Speaker 2: wear like this, and well my ponytail.
Speaker 1: You swear that you're the size of your hair growing
Speaker 1: out gives you versatility, It does, Bitch, You better just
Speaker 1: shave those things because you're you're gonna get a faux
Speaker 1: hawk in like four I mean a faux dreads in
Speaker 1: like two weeks.
Speaker 2: I'm probably I know, I'm gonna give it in like
Speaker 2: two months when it's the summertime, when I go to
Speaker 2: the tropics. God or Coachella. Uh, you're right, you guys,
Speaker 2: Coachella's coming up.
Speaker 1: It's April. Coachella's coming up. You know, we fucking thrive
Speaker 1: in two places, New York and Coachella. Okay, New York, Coachella, Coachella, Momchella.
Speaker 2: This is our ship.
Speaker 1: You haven't listened to our former Momchella episodes. What the
Speaker 1: fuck are you doing? They're epic every single time we go.
Speaker 2: And this is our first time going since the pandemic.
Speaker 2: So we're like really going to be really excited to
Speaker 2: get out the house. And I have a lot of
Speaker 2: mushroom powder from Costa Rica, so we're about to go crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we have our some of our mom friends
Speaker 1: that haven't been out the house. They like have babies,
Speaker 1: they've been waiting to just get out, and we're all going.
Speaker 2: It's a crew. We're going.
Speaker 1: If you see us, say hi, advite us to the parties.
Speaker 1: If you're listening, you've got some VIP passes. Send the bitch,
Speaker 1: send me a VIP.
Speaker 2: Passia, send Eric, can you play you top dollar for
Speaker 2: your VIP pass? I can't. I need it.
Speaker 1: It's very crucial for it's very crucial for my ego.
Speaker 1: It's very crucial in general. And these bitches do you
Speaker 1: bills making fun of me now, But this bitch will
Speaker 1: be the first one slipping off the wristband and putting
Speaker 1: it on herself to get into the VIP. Absolutely, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be. It's gonna be best. I want to be
Speaker 1: on the golf cart in the backstage. Okay, me too,
Speaker 1: me too. I'm too old. We're too old to be general.
Speaker 2: Last time I was general, I almost fucking died. Was
Speaker 2: that when we went together? It was when I we
Speaker 2: went Actually was twice I went with you, and then
Speaker 2: one time I went just with Wait, was that with
Speaker 2: my brother? I was with you?
Speaker 1: Well, I've been twice with him. Okay, so one time
Speaker 1: was my brother and I lost him in a sea
Speaker 1: of people and my shoes.
Speaker 2: It was just terrible. It was just I'm not cut
Speaker 2: up for that anymore. In my mid thirties. I can't.
Speaker 2: I can't do it. Here's the key, Like here's this
Speaker 2: is what happens. You can still party as you get older.
Speaker 2: You just got to party.
Speaker 1: Rite you got a party at a higher level. Like
Speaker 1: some people like you still got to Coachella. Yeah, bitch,
Speaker 1: I go to Coachella. I fucking love music festivals. I
Speaker 1: love going to see artists. I love just said you
Speaker 1: still go to Coachella. Someone said that to me, like
Speaker 1: you got you like to go to music festivals. I'm like,
Speaker 1: do you have you don't like music? I'm confused, you'd
Speaker 1: rather just listen on Spotify?
Speaker 2: I got it. I feel like music festivals are like
Speaker 2: the hippie person's church. It's like the largest, like biggest,
Speaker 2: like church convention, but in spiritual music, like free spirited realm.
Speaker 1: It's that it's like you get to see twenty concerts
Speaker 1: in this very short amount of time.
Speaker 2: The vibes are amazing because everyone's there for the The
Speaker 2: fashions are amazing. I like to go for the fashion,
Speaker 2: meet freddy people, you dim into people you haven't seen
Speaker 2: in years. Everybody is very It's kind of like a
Speaker 2: sex party. Everybody's so open and kind and friendly because
Speaker 2: they're all here, like we all know we're here to
Speaker 2: like vibe and so the vibes are open, and I
Speaker 2: feel like the heart chakra is very like present and
Speaker 2: moving and like that energy. A lot in music festivals,
Speaker 2: everyone's like, even if you don't know them, you'd be like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, you look so cute, give me a hug.
Speaker 1: I know. I went to a festival a few weeks ago,
Speaker 1: smoking grooves out here, and I almost didn't go because
Speaker 1: I put it in the group chat and no one
Speaker 1: said shit, and I was like, are you guys? My
Speaker 1: friends are not like what the fuck is happening? And
Speaker 1: so I said, fuck this, I'm going to go without y'all.
Speaker 1: So me and Ashley went and it was amazing, and
Speaker 1: I was like, that was like a baby that's like
Speaker 1: a baby festival.
Speaker 2: I wanted. I wanted wanted to go, but I was
Speaker 2: having mom gil and you know what, I rarely honor
Speaker 2: my mom gil because my FOMO was high and I
Speaker 2: was just like, so tied. We've done so much in
Speaker 2: the last month. I was like, bitch, sit the fuck down,
Speaker 2: and my spirit was like, you know when your spirit
Speaker 2: tells you bitch, sit the fuck down. I was like,
Speaker 2: I can't even fight with this urge to not go.
Speaker 2: And I wanted to go. Though. Cool, it's cool. We
Speaker 2: can't hang out every day. We already do enough together,
Speaker 2: I know. I was like, I told my mom. I
Speaker 2: was like, I'm going to New Orleans, and I was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: because I always travel with Erica. I don't even know
Speaker 2: what it's like to not travel with Erica anymore. I
Speaker 2: would travel. I haven't done a trip without Erica in
Speaker 2: so many fucking years. I'm like, it's so crazy because
Speaker 2: when I think about the beginning of Erica and I,
Speaker 2: at the beginning of Erica and I, the beginning of start,
Speaker 2: the beginning of our love story, I specifically remember that
Speaker 2: we didn't hang out. She asked me to the podcast,
Speaker 2: and then we did hang out, and I was like, god,
Speaker 2: I don't really know her. Wow, this is weird, and
Speaker 2: then we I didn't say it was weird, but I
Speaker 2: was like, okay, well, yeah, it was probably kind of
Speaker 2: in my head. We had like one hangout at the
Speaker 2: house and I told her like, we're gonna have to
Speaker 2: take pictures together so we have stuff to post, and
Speaker 2: then like, going from oh, we need to hang out
Speaker 2: more to the fucking do I have any other friends?
Speaker 2: It's fucking great. And not that I don't love you.
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm going to go all this time
Speaker 2: without hanging out with you, and then I be like, hello,
Speaker 2: where come back to meet our friends? Bringing coffee? So
Speaker 2: just if there's a noise, you can sit if you want,
Speaker 2: Thank you? Is that my ice coffee? I mean ice
Speaker 2: lating what you can? What the fuck?
Speaker 3: This is?
Speaker 2: What if you guys are just joining us? This is
Speaker 2: these are real? Are you gonna leave? I'm gonna have
Speaker 2: a sip of it? Is she going back? I don't know.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm a coffee addict. If anyone needs coffee
Speaker 1: in this room's fucking me. You just had a alixir?
Speaker 1: You're right, Okay, I'm fine.
Speaker 2: She just wants to go to the back of the
Speaker 2: coffee shop. She can go. I'm not gonna fight her
Speaker 2: for that. She can go.
Speaker 1: When you told me you're going to New Orleans, I like,
Speaker 1: I got a little bit jealous, just because I'm like,
Speaker 1: so used to like doing everything with you, And I
Speaker 1: was like, bitch, relax because we see her for every
Speaker 1: five seconds.
Speaker 2: You don't want to go to knowing I feel that
Speaker 2: way with you, I'm like, even with the first of all,
Speaker 2: I'm like I want to go. I'm like, do you
Speaker 2: think she needs a break for you? I'm like probably,
Speaker 2: But I was like, I want to go. I'm like, bitch,
Speaker 2: it's fine if we it's a separation anxiety. I was
Speaker 2: thinking that. I'm like, is something wrong with me? Do
Speaker 2: I have? Am my codependent in every aspect of my
Speaker 2: fucking life. I was like, bitch, if you don't sit
Speaker 2: down and not go with her, I had to really
Speaker 2: like talk to myself. And then I thought about neur Leans.
Speaker 2: I was like, is she coming? And then I'm thinking
Speaker 2: about going to Mexico for a month, and I was like,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna miss Erica. Bitch, this only bitch you sleep
Speaker 2: in the same bed with for like four Like it's
Speaker 2: it's like beautifully love, but it's like it's like beautiful sick,
Speaker 2: non lesbian leve.
Speaker 1: I know we're the best us in her head, but like, honestly,
Speaker 1: take a break for your fucking friend, you know.
Speaker 2: For promote that enough. I'm like, if we don't take breaks,
Speaker 2: we're gonna hate each other. I'm like, no way, there's
Speaker 2: not There's no way. God, the amount of time that
Speaker 2: we enjoy spending together is so insane. This week Okay,
Speaker 2: let me just give you, like, let me give you
Speaker 2: a brief between like Wednesday to Saturday, and let me
Speaker 2: tell you what we got done, because it's fucking insane. Okay,
Speaker 2: So just imagine it's just a five day period and
Speaker 2: you have to do the following things. We hosted a mixer,
Speaker 2: We got a hotel room. We went to the pool,
Speaker 2: we didn't finish. We went to her We saw Paris Hilton,
Speaker 2: DJ it was Paris Hilton. It was Paris Hilton. I
Speaker 2: met up with my fuck buddy, went back to downtown,
Speaker 2: got another hotel room, wrote some more. Oh yeah, I
Speaker 2: went home. Okay, I did. We did go home one time.
Speaker 2: We went home once, except I didn't sleep. I was stupid.
Speaker 2: I had sex and I tested, Yeah, I tested my
Speaker 2: fuck buddy and then I Then we came back to downtown.
Speaker 2: Decided we're to get another room. Convinced a grandma to
Speaker 2: take both kids. Did a talk at a conference in
Speaker 2: like the Cutest Business Professional Sexy Romey and Michelle high
Speaker 2: school reunion outfits that were like not really a conference, like,
Speaker 2: but we were going to make them. They went to
Speaker 2: the Soho House. Then I almost custodega out. Then we
Speaker 2: got another hotel room. Worked. Do we work this? We worked?
Speaker 2: We worked at the Soho house.
Speaker 1: We went to Yeah, then she was kersteneck out, then
Speaker 1: he left, then we left, then we ate, we ate,
Speaker 1: We went back to the hotel room. We wrote for hours,
Speaker 1: like we were high school.
Speaker 2: Students that needed to make a deadline, like twelfth grade
Speaker 2: passing grade depended on this night, I was up, like literally,
Speaker 2: I was like I'm out, and she be like I'm not.
Speaker 2: She like left the light on. All of her was.
Speaker 1: I was like punched over and punch over in the corner,
Speaker 1: typing naked. I was like, wow, she's she.
Speaker 2: Was ahead of me because in the process of writing
Speaker 2: this book, we haven't really talked a lot about writing
Speaker 2: this book because we've been avoiding it. You know, one
Speaker 2: of my childhood dreams is writing a book, like it
Speaker 2: really is. I was getting my lashes done. I'm at
Speaker 2: licensed as a titian. I do lashes, and so I
Speaker 2: was getting my lashes done this week by the person
Speaker 2: who taught me, and she was like, yeah. When I
Speaker 2: first started training you, you know, I asked you what
Speaker 2: your five year plan was, and you said, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: be like a journalist. And an author, and she was like,
Speaker 2: I was like, what the fuck. I thought you're gonna
Speaker 2: say something in the beauty business, like with lashes, And
Speaker 2: I was like, really, that's what I said? She said yeah,
Speaker 2: and I was like, bet, I'm so happy I'm on track.
Speaker 2: But at that time I had no idea how I
Speaker 2: was going to do any of those things. But and
Speaker 2: also I have a huge fear of people reading shit,
Speaker 2: Like I'm sensitive about my shit.
Speaker 1: Well because you were in your privacy was invaded a
Speaker 1: lot as a child, and your diaries and people.
Speaker 2: Reading your shit.
Speaker 1: But now this is like you get to tell your
Speaker 1: story and the way that you wanted to be read
Speaker 1: and the way you want it to be received.
Speaker 2: You know, it's crazy, but I feel so much anxiety
Speaker 2: about it. I'm like super excited and I feel super activated,
Speaker 2: but then I'm getting these periods so I'm like, oh
Speaker 2: my god, what if it's not good enough? Or like
Speaker 2: am I an author? Like I've never written a book.
Speaker 2: I've never written a book. And then these chapters that
Speaker 2: we were writing have been super and super intense. It's
Speaker 2: about just like the gets really are this book. Like
Speaker 2: I know we talk a lot here, but this book
Speaker 2: is about to get super deep and in depth about
Speaker 2: our experiences, you know, coming into this space and shifting
Speaker 2: from like not being single to being single, I'm being
Speaker 2: pregnant and breaking up and you know, just the road
Speaker 2: to how we met and where we were at. I
Speaker 2: hadn't realized how much I hadn't revisited that place in
Speaker 2: my life, and it was really it's been very difficult.
Speaker 2: I didn't realize I was avoiding it so heavily, but
Speaker 2: I was. And also that night when I was up
Speaker 2: like a fucking psycho, I I had like I was
Speaker 2: tense in my body. I felt as I was thinking
Speaker 2: about it and writing it, I felt it like the
Speaker 2: stress that I experienced at that time, and it just
Speaker 2: felt super triggering because when you've been in an abusive, dark,
Speaker 2: toxic relationship, especially as like as for me, I disassociate
Speaker 2: and I kind of like glazed it over like it
Speaker 2: was all good because I was fine. I was like,
Speaker 2: I'm fine, but I was not fine, bitch. I was struggling,
Speaker 2: so it was hard to like. And then even I
Speaker 2: even sleeping that night was difficult, and then we still
Speaker 2: weren't done. We had to wake up. We woke up
Speaker 2: at six in the morning and started writing again. So
Speaker 2: it was like a very energetically draining but beautiful transcribing
Speaker 2: were in the We're in the subble house sec and
Speaker 2: then I broke up because I was sat, We've figured
Speaker 2: out how to transcribe on our notes, so we're like, okay,
Speaker 2: I'm going to be an author through my phone. This
Speaker 2: is gonna Yeah. We was like, I was like, I
Speaker 2: need to stop typing and I need to start talking
Speaker 2: because this is what we do. Yeah. I was like, actually,
Speaker 2: why am I writing? Like I could just talk it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but I'm not going to talking to myself.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, it's the journey of figuring out how we author.
Speaker 1: But I know for me, you know what, in my
Speaker 1: reaction to writing, it wasn't like it was TENSI ish.
Speaker 2: I just would get.
Speaker 1: Really exhausted immediately. And I realized it's because I felt
Speaker 1: very exhausted in that time in my life too.
Speaker 2: And I remember sleeping.
Speaker 1: Actually, I remember like there were times where I would
Speaker 1: sleep for like long periods of the day, and that
Speaker 1: was depression.
Speaker 2: I didn't even realize that I was in that space.
Speaker 1: And I noticed when I was writing about certain things
Speaker 1: and not just like you know, my my experience. But
Speaker 1: even the joy, even talking about the joy was exhausting
Speaker 1: to me in ways because I was like just revisiting
Speaker 1: the whole overall experience and like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. I'm glad that those chapters are done.
Speaker 1: Congratulations, my love, Oh my god, congratulations, so fucking happy.
Speaker 1: I know that we have to do some more edits,
Speaker 1: but that part, yeah, I feel like I like I
Speaker 1: threw up, I purged, I did purge onto the paper and.
Speaker 2: Now you guys get to read my purge at some
Speaker 2: point in twenty twenty three, which I even I dealt
Speaker 2: with that too, Like am I saying too much? Is
Speaker 2: this too much? Is just too honest? Right? Me too?
Speaker 2: Who's how is this going to be received? Too? And
Speaker 2: then you know what my hater like, do I am
Speaker 2: I look like a bitch? Do I?
Speaker 1: Like I kept I've started to doubt myself, Like am
Speaker 1: I a bitch for sharing?
Speaker 2: This? Is it my fault?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 2: Did I? I obviously have?
Speaker 1: I know I play a part in whatever has happened
Speaker 1: in my life in general, and just the choices that
Speaker 1: I've made and like the growth that I was at
Speaker 1: at that point in my life, but.
Speaker 2: Like, oh no, now I'm wondering. I'm like, damn, did
Speaker 2: I put enough about like where I was at? Like
Speaker 2: am I just like this was stupid? Let me tell
Speaker 2: you why. I mean, yeah, reflect on that too, you know.
Speaker 1: But because I did, it actually made me really have
Speaker 1: to be more accountable too, Like how did I play
Speaker 1: a part in any of the things that have happened
Speaker 1: in my life, whether it's the daddy issues, whether it's
Speaker 1: the relationship with my family, whether it's a relationship with
Speaker 1: my child's father, whether.
Speaker 2: All of it, Like what is my part in all
Speaker 2: of it?
Speaker 1: As like an outsider looking in before I just put
Speaker 1: it all on the internet, put it on the internet,
Speaker 1: put it in print.
Speaker 2: We've already put it on the internet.
Speaker 1: We got to put it in every print forever for
Speaker 1: someone to read. And I guess, I don't know digest
Speaker 1: whatever interpretation they get from that.
Speaker 2: But that's the beautiful thing about this process is that,
Speaker 2: and I'm doing it with you, you know, is that
Speaker 2: we can put it on paper and then we can
Speaker 2: have conversations like maybe because I need to like revisit
Speaker 2: that in a different perspective, and like also I think
Speaker 2: it's kind of dope, not dope, but it is different that.
Speaker 2: The truth is, me and Erica knew each other during
Speaker 2: that period, but we weren't near each other.
Speaker 1: Well, the thing is like the first six chapters of
Speaker 1: the book is not even like we hadn't even met yet. Yeah,
Speaker 1: everything before that that, Like, I think we usually talk
Speaker 1: about a lot about our inception and like from that
Speaker 1: period on. And that's why I feel like this is
Speaker 1: definitely a different for me too, Like I feel extremely
Speaker 1: exposed and vulnerable and like I don't always feel comfortable
Speaker 1: in that space. I do in ways, but like what
Speaker 1: I feel comfortable sharing, and I feel like in the
Speaker 1: book it's forced me to be like, Okay, like how
Speaker 1: do I make this useful? I have to be totally
Speaker 1: transparent and honest about it. And the beauty is that
Speaker 1: I love writing too, and it's like it's fun to
Speaker 1: like interpret my story but get to say it in
Speaker 1: like a beautiful way too, you know, like paint the picture.
Speaker 1: So I don't know, I'm just really excited. That was
Speaker 1: a cool part of the this week, but it was
Speaker 1: also fucking stressful.
Speaker 2: It was so fucking stressed, and then we had like
Speaker 2: we also spoke at podcast Movement. Shout out to podcast movement, evolution, evolutions.
Speaker 1: So I was twenty two downtown, the biggest podcast convention
Speaker 1: in the whole motherfucking world, which is it's amazing what
Speaker 1: they do. It is they are like, it's a really
Speaker 1: that convention is really dope. There's a lot of like
Speaker 1: resources and people there, and I feel like there was
Speaker 1: definitely a different vibe than the one in Nashville that
Speaker 1: we did it last year. And yeah, we did a
Speaker 1: panel and it was about how authenticity can leverage your
Speaker 1: podcast and it.
Speaker 2: Was cool, like to really reflect on how it has Yeah,
Speaker 2: how like like, yeah, that's really the scariest part of
Speaker 2: this is like how authentic You're gonna be real real.
Speaker 2: That's what my mom said. I told her what the
Speaker 2: panel was. She's like, what does that mean. I was like, well,
Speaker 2: I guess just how being yourself can really be beneficial.
Speaker 2: She's like, oh, yeah, I really look up to you.
Speaker 2: But you know, me and Erica since this was not
Speaker 2: so like it was intentional, but not in the way
Speaker 2: that it's coming to fruition. It's always like every time
Speaker 2: like a pinch, you know, like this is crazy and
Speaker 2: like us making a PowerPoint and having a clicker and
Speaker 2: being like and this one here even thugs cried. This
Speaker 2: is being vulnerable, you know, like just making up shit,
Speaker 2: making up shit, But like, I just love it.
Speaker 1: I love being a corporate bitch, okay, corporate corporate, a corporate, authentic.
Speaker 2: Creative bitch like that.
Speaker 1: That space feels exciting to me because I make the
Speaker 1: rules and I can say whatever the fuck I want.
Speaker 1: And I cursed the whole time during the whole my
Speaker 1: whole panel, because that's who I am and that's what
Speaker 1: you're getting and that's why I'm here.
Speaker 2: You know, And it's like, I just feel like it's
Speaker 2: it was. That was really cool and fun. I love
Speaker 2: that shit. It was. It was. It was an and
Speaker 2: you know, we all we've done it before. We got
Speaker 2: a bigger stage, we had more people come, and you know,
Speaker 2: people are engaged and you see people in real life
Speaker 2: they say I've listened, and I love that. Like it's
Speaker 2: just so much cooler when you get to really connect
Speaker 2: and have conversations and and be with people in mongstter
Speaker 2: industry and shake it up because you know, it can
Speaker 2: be every kind of conference can have. It's a lot.
Speaker 2: It's very male dominated. That's why I was really excited
Speaker 2: to also do that all female mixer with speaker, because
Speaker 2: you know, we finally like get to see where things
Speaker 2: need to give, like have more space in podcasting, and
Speaker 2: now we're in the position to in some ways advocate
Speaker 2: for it.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: Like, hey, and I remember the first podcast conference I
Speaker 2: went to. It was like Digital Hollywood or something here.
Speaker 2: I remember like someone gave us tickets and I was
Speaker 2: like taking.
Speaker 1: Notes and I met and I met fucking cam Sex
Speaker 1: talk with my mom, And now we're on Pleasure podcast
Speaker 1: and like, I just think it's a testimony to the
Speaker 1: power of using your network, of using your network, because
Speaker 1: I didn't even think about that that you met him
Speaker 1: at that convention and now like he's like we work
Speaker 1: with him, yeah, in his business, But that's a lot
Speaker 1: of people we've come across, and like that's the power
Speaker 1: of making friends in your industry and then utilizing each other.
Speaker 1: We work with so many of the people we like
Speaker 1: we crossed paths with, and like, even if we don't
Speaker 1: work with them, it's always a lesson. It's always like
Speaker 1: an added value to our business, you know, Like speaking
Speaker 1: of which, like even with the Good Vibe Retreat, you know,
Speaker 1: it's such a testament of how like community and networking,
Speaker 1: and like we're about to include some really epic guests
Speaker 1: on these next Like we have some special guests that
Speaker 1: we haven't announced yet, I know.
Speaker 2: And that's another thing we did in this last five days.
Speaker 2: We like, yeah, we like solidified and had some really
Speaker 2: cool you know, some of our guests come and commit
Speaker 2: to coming to the retreat and adding value to the
Speaker 2: just the healing that we're all going to receive.
Speaker 1: Yes, So I'm just yeah, I'm so excited. I was
Speaker 1: just talking to someone. I was like, I can't wait
Speaker 1: for the summertime. I was like, I can't wait to
Speaker 1: get back to Costa Rica. I'm ready to get I
Speaker 1: just love it there. It just gives me like this
Speaker 1: energy and I feel like there's this soul. I don't know,
Speaker 1: I have this weird connection to it. I don't know,
Speaker 1: Like I know that you do too, I don't know,
Speaker 1: but it all feels personal, Like when you go there,
Speaker 1: it's like your own personal connection to the space.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: That feels like Yeah, So I'm really excited for our
Speaker 1: next retreats and it feels.
Speaker 2: Grounding the next group of women. I know, I get
Speaker 2: to meet more women and like I already feel so
Speaker 2: close to the ones that like we've met and like
Speaker 2: we still talk every day every day.
Speaker 1: Every day, we'll talk every day in the slack, and
Speaker 1: we fucking share pictures and stories.
Speaker 2: H and you know meet up whenever we can, and
Speaker 2: everybody's meeting up and it's just like it just feels
Speaker 2: bombed and I'm super excited to you know, have gone
Speaker 2: through a good vibratory experienced it and then not get
Speaker 2: to do it again. We've extended it one day just
Speaker 2: so we have more time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that extra day is going to be
Speaker 1: really amazing and just like chill because the place is
Speaker 1: so it's like there's so much to do, but then
Speaker 1: there's so little to do.
Speaker 2: Also, like it's really your choice. It's a small town,
Speaker 2: but you can.
Speaker 1: Go ziplining, you can go whale watching, dolphins swimming, like
Speaker 1: all types of stuff.
Speaker 2: And it's just like has a soul to it.
Speaker 3: It does.
Speaker 2: It's like a personal like you know what, like someone
Speaker 2: that you love and you've known forever. Soul. It's like
Speaker 2: like kind of like a like an embracing I don't
Speaker 2: like a really cool grandmother, the coolest, the coolest grandmother
Speaker 2: you could think of, like like and she has like
Speaker 2: so much knowledge and so much like everything's gonna be alright,
Speaker 2: Like going to visit like the most hippie ross to
Speaker 2: Grandma and she hugs you and makes you good food.
Speaker 2: That is the vibe. That is the vibe of the
Speaker 2: good Vibe retreat for sure. Yeah, I'm excited about that.
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Speaker 2: Happy Sexual Wellness. What else did we do? We went
Speaker 2: to a fashion show. Shout out to to our girl Ashley,
Speaker 2: who is the founder of the Model Experience. The motherfucking
Speaker 2: Model Experience actually was so fucking amazing. I cried, like
Speaker 2: I kept crying. I was so embarrassing.
Speaker 1: This never happens where I'm like just so proud of
Speaker 1: my friends, and I'm just crying everywhere.
Speaker 2: It couldn't stop.
Speaker 1: It was so it's just been so amazing to watch
Speaker 1: the progression of her business and to see where she
Speaker 1: I've known her for so long, to see where she
Speaker 1: started and her to now like just have this epic
Speaker 1: modeling business where women get to go and like feel seen,
Speaker 1: like use these like these things that are nately in them,
Speaker 1: which is like to shine, just to shine and to
Speaker 1: feel confident and to feel empowered and to like all
Speaker 1: the women that were there, all the like the young
Speaker 1: people that were there were all talking like when's your
Speaker 1: time to walk?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, what are you wear? And like everyone
Speaker 2: was just coming together and making friends. So they're all
Speaker 2: in it together. Yeah, And it's beautiful to give people
Speaker 2: the opportunity to feel good and seen and photographed and
Speaker 2: have the opportunity to live your dream on a high
Speaker 2: in high end experience your family and friends to be
Speaker 2: able to come see you. It just it was really beautiful.
Speaker 2: And even like the designers were bombed, you know, like
Speaker 2: up and coming designers that you may not have like seen.
Speaker 2: There was a few that I that I need to
Speaker 2: go revisit. I took picture. Is something frozen free?
Speaker 3: Yea?
Speaker 2: Yeah, something free? Yeah? Oh god, I'm high right now.
Speaker 1: But we're gonna leave them in the episode description because
Speaker 1: there were some really dope designers there were from that show,
Speaker 1: and it was just what's the name Benjamin, what's the
Speaker 1: guy's name?
Speaker 2: Benjamin was there? He was like model the guest.
Speaker 1: Yeah about the red carpet, I know, our first red
Speaker 1: carpet and we were high so awome, Oh my.
Speaker 2: God, I was so fucking uncomfortable. I just looked at
Speaker 2: all the footage. I was like, please don't and I
Speaker 2: could see us like like walk stop, walk, smile or
Speaker 2: like didn't they ask us questions?
Speaker 1: Bitch?
Speaker 2: I was like wow. And then as soon as we
Speaker 2: fucking got out, she was like, do we need media training? Bitch?
Speaker 2: I was like yep. We were struggling. They were like,
Speaker 2: what is your fashion style? I was like, I just
Speaker 2: like addressed how I feel. And I was like what
Speaker 2: is my fashion?
Speaker 1: Like what are you wearing? And I was like, well,
Speaker 1: I'm wearing Zara. But I was like, do I want
Speaker 1: to tell her I'm wearing Zara. I'm supposed be working
Speaker 1: something fancier. I don't know a fuck, Like I got
Speaker 1: these pants and some random store. This is a panga mall,
Speaker 1: Like these shoes I've had for four years.
Speaker 2: They have better, Like we're not we need to get
Speaker 2: more details, cacaline, like this is a festival designer. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's what I wish i'd really know his name. I
Speaker 2: would have sounded so much. I was like, I have something.
Speaker 2: I was like trying. I was like, maybe I can
Speaker 2: help her. I was like, do you remember you have
Speaker 2: the same You have to do something from him too.
Speaker 2: I'm like look at the tag I don't know Afrikhaan. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and then I think I was like, this is the
Speaker 2: only one weekend. Then we went to we had dinner
Speaker 2: with our girl Dolly. We had I love that fucking restaurant,
Speaker 2: the Exchange. I like the Exchange and fucking Wooden Spoon.
Speaker 2: Oh Wooden spoone. Yeah, oh that didn't Me and Erica
Speaker 2: went to a party. We had the nerve to slide
Speaker 2: actually to a party, even though we had a huge deadline.
Speaker 2: We needed a break, Yeah, we needed a release. We
Speaker 2: went to a party. It was very gay party.
Speaker 1: It was beautiful. They were fine, and we drank and
Speaker 1: I flirted and I was on the phone from the
Speaker 1: bathroom for like twenty minutes.
Speaker 2: Are you yeah? I don't know if you remember that.
Speaker 2: What was I doing? Who knows? I was like, sure'll
Speaker 2: be fine here talking. I can't believe you left me
Speaker 2: for twenty minute. You were fine, And I said, I
Speaker 2: just noticed, like you did. Okay, Well, now she's pissed.
Speaker 2: Fuck you. We'd leave me at the party for the
Speaker 2: gay party for minute. I was like, she's up with
Speaker 2: her people. Yeah, I was flush. I'm going to go
Speaker 2: in the bathroom and flirt with my boo because I'm drunk. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we got there, and then we also went to
Speaker 1: another party. Actually it was like it was like church.
Speaker 1: We went to Trap Care Chrap Chap Karaoke, Trap Karaoke
Speaker 1: with hosted by.
Speaker 2: Mouse Jone, and that shit was dope. It is mouse Jones, right, Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 2: that shit was dope. It was really dope. That was
Speaker 2: my first time getting to go to one, and it
Speaker 2: did feel like church. I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: look at our people singing together. I love this here.
Speaker 2: Everyone was so into it.
Speaker 1: Everyone was like, it's another like community thing like and
Speaker 1: that's what the like the theme I feel like for
Speaker 1: me over the past obviously like yes, community is important,
Speaker 1: but I feel like seeing so many visual aspects of
Speaker 1: it over the last few months has really really made
Speaker 1: it me really understand how much we need each other.
Speaker 1: And I think also just the divisiveness of what we
Speaker 1: just went through, like it's also highlighting that for me
Speaker 1: and just how people en the in the I guess,
Speaker 1: like what's left over because there's people that are still
Speaker 1: like not that won't don't want to enjoy their life anymore.
Speaker 1: Like there there's people like there's been so many casualties
Speaker 1: of what has happened. But when you see these type
Speaker 1: of spaces, man, it was just like it just makes
Speaker 1: your soul smile.
Speaker 2: Like I looked out into the crowd and everybody was smiling.
Speaker 2: I was like, what this is fucking I know. I mean, like,
Speaker 2: first of all, music, like it's so crucial to our happiness.
Speaker 2: Community really is crucial to our like to our humanity
Speaker 2: and to like pleasure and the freedom to just be
Speaker 2: and be free and sing and dance and smile and
Speaker 2: laugh and be amongst people you don't know and make
Speaker 2: connections like that's what this shit is all about, you know,
Speaker 2: like exchange of energy, like good energy. So it was
Speaker 2: so dope. Like we left the fucking fashion show. We
Speaker 2: went to the Pull again, just sent in our book,
Speaker 2: went to a fucking fashion show, saw our friend kill
Speaker 2: it like hosts thousands of people in one day, thousands
Speaker 2: of people in one day, and then fucking go to
Speaker 2: fucking Mouse's shit. See him. I was like, never seen
Speaker 2: a fucking hip hop DJ conductor Nege Like he was
Speaker 2: like he I was like, what the fuck is he doing?
Speaker 2: He was like he did. Then he was like the
Speaker 2: crowd was saying to the DJ would go then he
Speaker 2: bring it back together. I was like, this nigg has
Speaker 2: been studying. Okay. It was beautiful to see and like
Speaker 2: the rules and the guidelines and just just love really
Speaker 2: and how people want to shine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really what I took from that day because
Speaker 1: like when I was at the Model Experience, I could
Speaker 1: just people can't you have to come make up ready,
Speaker 1: and there's so many activations, like you have a space
Speaker 1: where you could walk the runway, you have a space
Speaker 1: where you can take a photo shoot, you have like
Speaker 1: all these different places. So people come and you get
Speaker 1: to see their individual and what their representation of them
Speaker 1: shining looks like.
Speaker 2: And that's like what I love to see because I'm like, okay,
Speaker 2: they were shining.
Speaker 1: Yes, Like I think I had a whole crystal fucking
Speaker 1: I don't know, veil over his body and shit, I
Speaker 1: was like.
Speaker 2: Okay, that looked for coach for sure. Right. There's a
Speaker 2: lot of books I need to get for Coachella. Yeah,
Speaker 2: So it was just it was a beautiful weekend and
Speaker 2: then I wanted to be a hoe, but I just
Speaker 2: we went home. I want, I was exhausted. I didn't
Speaker 2: knock the fuck out, and yeah, no, it's Monday.
Speaker 1: We're still going. And then we went to a soccer
Speaker 1: game and we were soccer moms back at it. That's
Speaker 1: how it goes.
Speaker 2: Balance, baby, its bad choices. Yeah. Shout out to the
Speaker 2: grandma's that were grandma's this whole day down. They held
Speaker 2: it down. They kept the kids for two days because
Speaker 2: it was physically impossible for us to mom. Nope, momming
Speaker 2: is hard. I was. There'd been no way we could
Speaker 2: have gotten everything done that we had to get done.
Speaker 2: There's just no fucking way. There's no way. No. I was.
Speaker 2: We were talking and I was like, you know, I
Speaker 2: can't feel like the heart. I like being a mom,
Speaker 2: it's so cool, cool, but like making her lunch every day.
Speaker 2: I was like, every day to think about the lunch
Speaker 2: and I have to take her. I was like, like,
Speaker 2: like fifteen years, I'm gonna have to take her to
Speaker 2: school and think of lunch. I was like, I don't
Speaker 2: really like that part. Oscar also didn't like the car seat,
Speaker 2: and She's like, yeah, you know, I also like entertaining them.
Speaker 2: I'm like right, I'm like then feeding them. And then
Speaker 2: she was just like yeah, it's just like the whole thing.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh shit, that is a lot of
Speaker 2: it entertaining. I really like when they sleep. I love
Speaker 2: when they sleep and they cuddle me. Yeah, like coming
Speaker 2: to like randomly tell me they love me. But me
Speaker 2: and me and Lena were coloring me this morning. It
Speaker 2: was raining. I was like, she's being calm, We're just coloring,
Speaker 2: and she's like, I love you. I was like, I
Speaker 2: love you too, and I was like, I love this part.
Speaker 2: This is the part that I at this point, this
Speaker 2: is the fun part, and like, chill the fuck out
Speaker 2: and you love me right, Oh my goodness. But no,
Speaker 2: I do love it. But sometimes I realize you have
Speaker 2: to to be able to do all the things. There
Speaker 2: are places that sacrifice. And I think that our kids
Speaker 2: know that we're grinding right now. I really know our
Speaker 2: kids know we're working hard. And I think they're gonna
Speaker 2: continue to understand that and not that they're always is
Speaker 2: going to be the part that we sacrifice, No, of course,
Speaker 2: but like you know, this weekend is one of those
Speaker 2: fucking weekends.
Speaker 1: It wasn't a sacrifice. They have grandparents need to see them, Okay,
Speaker 1: you need for time. You need to see this person
Speaker 1: that I made from you. You are the ancestor. Okay,
Speaker 1: go be with the grand baby.
Speaker 2: Honest to god, the fuck right, my mom be. Actually
Speaker 2: like these new school grandmas, the new school grandmas, they
Speaker 2: don't really make the grandma's the same, so they're not
Speaker 2: getting a baby. This is the thing. They might nag
Speaker 2: you out, but just your baby, the new school grandma's.
Speaker 1: My grandma, I told you, came every weekend, my whole
Speaker 1: motherfucking life. Drove from like Orange County, which was over
Speaker 1: an hour away, never missed a weekend, never ever, ever,
Speaker 1: And I thought to myself recently, well, I was just
Speaker 1: chilling with her because I loved her so much.
Speaker 2: Where the fuck my mom was doing her shit? Where
Speaker 2: the fuck was my mom during that time? She was
Speaker 2: for sure doing hoh shit. She was out and I
Speaker 2: didn't know because I was a kid. She was going
Speaker 2: to dinner with her friend. She will be right back.
Speaker 2: She was working, you know, like what the fuck? She
Speaker 2: was not doing any of those things. Mom, I know
Speaker 2: you weren't. Where were you? Where were you?
Speaker 1: Because I feel like at all I didn't even notice
Speaker 1: because I just loved my grandma so much and she
Speaker 1: was coming every weekend.
Speaker 2: But they don't make the Grandma's like that, No, Moore.
Speaker 1: The grandmas are like two days in They're like, hello, yeah,
Speaker 1: well what time you said you'd be here?
Speaker 2: But literally we called. Both of our moms were like hello,
Speaker 2: they were so excited. I was like, hello, I don't
Speaker 2: if I have to get up, do I have to
Speaker 2: want me to get that? Yeah, I'm just I'm just
Speaker 2: like I'm you know, I'm over sixty now, so just
Speaker 2: saying like, wow, you really make me do this with
Speaker 2: your kid. I'm like, okay, well what are you doing.
Speaker 2: You're writing a book, give a conference. Okay, well you're
Speaker 2: sure you're just not gonna mom, so you fuck your daughter?
Speaker 2: Huh so you just can't do it all? Okay, Wow,
Speaker 2: you didn't really schedule for this properly. You're responsible in
Speaker 2: my day. Oh, welcome to motherhood. Huh you see what
Speaker 2: I've been doing all these years? That's my mom. I'm
Speaker 2: like okay, Like they never had help, Like my grandma
Speaker 2: didn't come every fucking weekend my whole life, and then
Speaker 2: she couldn't come. My grandma father was there. My mom
Speaker 2: was good, she was set. She had the grandparents on
Speaker 2: Locke for sure, and she was working her ass off.
Speaker 2: So she needed it. But yeah, they're just it's just
Speaker 2: a different also, yeah, it's just a different time. I'll
Speaker 2: we figured it out. Yeah, and shout out to the
Speaker 2: grandparents and amen, we love you because and shut out,
Speaker 2: you know, just shout out to the co parenting and
Speaker 2: the village. Because we're going to Atlanta, going to Coachella.
Speaker 2: We're also going to Atlanta where it's also work. We're working.
Speaker 2: We are and that's what's so weird though.
Speaker 1: So I think that's where the guilt comes from, because
Speaker 1: our work is not like it brings us joy.
Speaker 2: It makes me happy and it looks fun. So then
Speaker 2: people get confused, They're like, they're not working. I'm like, bitch,
Speaker 2: Yes i am. I was on the Turk contest. I
Speaker 2: I had to. It was a networking event.
Speaker 1: I mean I had to be there anyway, so I
Speaker 1: might as well have T worked. I mean, I should
Speaker 1: limit my tworking because I'm working. It's a part of
Speaker 1: don't work.
Speaker 2: I'm talking while I'm working. Sure, talking while you're working?
Speaker 2: To Wednesday, Yes, I think it is. Let me write
Speaker 2: that down. Where's my phone? Fuck? Tworking while you're working?
Speaker 2: What's the while you work? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Got work and talk and work talk talk talk, work work.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I fucking love beingang twins or they Okay,
Speaker 1: I think we should play.
Speaker 2: The song right there, because you know what.
Speaker 1: I was going by that JJ insert what's the way
Speaker 1: I was going back and listening to our old episodes.
Speaker 1: If you guys have time, if you're just starting here,
Speaker 1: I encourage you to go back, go way, way, way back,
Speaker 1: because there was a time where we would open up
Speaker 1: all of our episodes with music and it was highly curated.
Speaker 1: It was beautiful, and I'm very upset.
Speaker 2: That we can no longer do this. We don't speak
Speaker 2: of those times. Dear, we don't know what. I don't
Speaker 2: know what you're talking about. Okay, never mind, don't don't
Speaker 2: do it. I don't know that you can go listen,
Speaker 2: but we don't have no idea about those. They're done.
Speaker 2: Get a sued, but it's three anyway. But yeah, if
Speaker 2: you're in Atlanta, hit us up. We will be there
Speaker 2: for the world.
Speaker 1: We'll be there wrapping Talia at the Natural World Hair
Speaker 1: EXPA at the Atlantic Convention Center.
Speaker 2: Ooh, the twenty My afro is gonna be so motherfucking wow.
Speaker 2: I guess I have braids are really make it. Yeah, bitch, Wow,
Speaker 2: what do you do about that? Natural wear? My puppy,
Speaker 2: hold me down? That just what the fuck are you
Speaker 2: talking about? Okay? Wow, how black women? You have said it.
Speaker 2: I'm just not suying to We're not like you're adding
Speaker 2: to my guilt. Okay, I'm sorry. It's beautiful. Shave your
Speaker 2: head whatever.
Speaker 1: Okay, now I have to get I think you look
Speaker 1: really good with a shaved head and bleached it like
Speaker 1: Misha style.
Speaker 2: It would be so sexy.
Speaker 1: My head's really small, I know, but it was still cute.
Speaker 1: What if it was like blonde and like or like purple,
Speaker 1: like a dark purple dark blue?
Speaker 2: Okay, well, yeah, I see it, dark blue. We're not
Speaker 2: going to number that. I don't know if I'm met
Speaker 2: it that edgy, I don't know. I think you could
Speaker 2: be convinced. I've had short blonde hair. It was yellow.
Speaker 2: It was in college. It was it probably wasn't.
Speaker 1: You're in college. You don't know what the fuck you're doing.
Speaker 1: It was you need to go get it done blonde.
Speaker 2: It was intense, and I promise never to go back there,
Speaker 2: even though cousin Chris has asked me many times, maybe
Speaker 2: don't do blonde he has mentioned that in my presence.
Speaker 1: Actually it gives him life. Okay, you should maybe not
Speaker 1: do blonde because that's a lot of work. Maybe if
Speaker 1: you die, like diet another color, it's like less abrasive,
Speaker 1: and so then it's more.
Speaker 2: You can like work with it more. Anyway, you're beautiful
Speaker 2: either way, thank you. I guess I'm getting braids for sure.
Speaker 2: By the time we go to Atlanta, else I'm gonna
Speaker 2: be shunned as a natural hair excellent. Oh then I'm
Speaker 2: going to New Orleans with my boo. I really want
Speaker 2: to run into this couple that I've talked about a lot.
Speaker 2: I know this is Stockrish, but I don't care. I
Speaker 2: want to know them. I'm too weak to pull up
Speaker 2: in their DMCA. I don't really how to approach them.
Speaker 1: Why that's where you're supposed to do it, not on
Speaker 1: the podcast, bitch, you didn't start in the DMS.
Speaker 2: You just went straight here. What the fun? I was
Speaker 2: just gonna say, if anybody knows them that I'm in town,
Speaker 2: you should just message you DM everyone else we're dm sliders.
Speaker 2: They just had a baby.
Speaker 1: I don't really have to say, but I guess I'm
Speaker 1: gonna think of something and hey, I love your energy.
Speaker 2: Where are you Hey, I'm coming to your city soon.
Speaker 2: I like you, I said to I said, get a service,
Speaker 2: something to offer services. Oh yeah, maybe, Okay, that's a
Speaker 2: good idea. I sent Orlando a DM with with them minute.
Speaker 2: I was like, I start stalking. I want to swing
Speaker 2: with them, and then I swing. Oh are you fucking
Speaker 2: from nineteen ninety four? The fuck? Oh my gosh, I know,
Speaker 2: but it did.
Speaker 1: The way he said it reminded me of like my parents,
Speaker 1: how they might talk about it. But I'm gonna throw up.
Speaker 2: I think you're right. And then right after I wrote that,
Speaker 2: I was like, I've never said that sentence exactly what.
Speaker 2: I can't even take myself serious. But it's something good
Speaker 2: at the time. That's what it means. I know what
Speaker 2: the fucking means. So what's what's the newer school way
Speaker 2: to say it?
Speaker 1: I want to fuck them, I want them, Let's have them, Okay,
Speaker 1: I should have fun with them. No, if aren't they fine,
Speaker 1: let's swing, let's swing off the trees.
Speaker 2: Swing baby.
Speaker 1: But you know what, Orlando's kind of like dump nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety four, So it makes sense. You guys are like
Speaker 1: the perfect ninety four couple.
Speaker 2: You can see it him.
Speaker 1: It as crop tops, you and your booty shorts talking
Speaker 1: about swinging.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I was I'm so guilty and a shamed.
Speaker 2: I was watching fucking Zeus Network last night. First, I
Speaker 2: was watching Jossone's Cabaret because I haven't seen it in
Speaker 2: two seasons. I really need to go back.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I think I watched this last one
Speaker 1: with Sebastian and it was they were at that house.
Speaker 2: I need to go back in the beginning. It's really
Speaker 2: like the going back to the girl had reality. Wait
Speaker 2: did she have an abortion? Like? What was she shaming
Speaker 2: her for having abortion of twins? I saw that. I
Speaker 2: saw the Yes, that was a lot. She said double
Speaker 2: wash it almost passed out and not double homicide. Double
Speaker 2: Oh god. I'm like, oh, so, then there's Bad Boys
Speaker 2: Club that's on now, which is absolutely ridiculous. And I
Speaker 2: was on the phone the land. He's like, should I
Speaker 2: be on Bad Boys Club? I said absolutely not. That's
Speaker 2: why I drawed the line I would never claim you.
Speaker 2: I would it would not claim you. I wouldn't be done.
Speaker 2: And I was like, what the fuck are you talking about.
Speaker 2: I was like, I said, when you come to l A.
Speaker 2: We're gonna have some We're gonna do some l A
Speaker 2: training said yeah, okay, He's like, what are you talking about?
Speaker 2: I was like, I'll give you more details when you arrive.
Speaker 1: Am I Liberary Awards of a list of things of
Speaker 1: never to say in public? So you see this, don't
Speaker 1: get excited, don't do this. Look very serious. Let me
Speaker 1: see the l A face look very serious. Oh that's cool.
Speaker 2: I'm really aloof. I don't care. Yeah, oh really? Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: I know her to Oh what's your name? I I
Speaker 2: saw you five times, but I don't forgot. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: I don't know you. Oh oh yeah, it's friend. What
Speaker 2: do you do you? Oh that's I don't know her. No,
Speaker 2: you know who that I know? No, I don't think
Speaker 2: i've met you. Oh my god, you know him? Oh
Speaker 2: my god, his famous I Oh my god, I fucking
Speaker 2: love you, fucking love you. You know him, and now
Speaker 2: I want to know him. Oh my god, you're that
Speaker 2: outfit's so cute, looks so good on you. Oh my god,
Speaker 2: you're so young. I didn't know you're thirty. Oh my god,
Speaker 2: I thought you were young. Give me follow right now,
Speaker 2: push your instant. Oh my god, I speaking of this,
Speaker 2: I mean this. I met this bitch at a dance
Speaker 2: class and she asked for my instant and then like
Speaker 2: I found out she did my other friend, which was fine,
Speaker 2: but then she was like messaging me and I was
Speaker 2: messaging her back, but she's like, I'm sorry, I'm working
Speaker 2: right now. I was like, bitch, I'm busy. Wait wait she.
Speaker 1: Paused the combo an instant because she was working and
Speaker 1: she felt like but she was like, I was like,
Speaker 1: you know what, like you were talking too much.
Speaker 2: You were talking about text like I texted like fux.
Speaker 2: But I was like, bitch, I'm working too. Like, bitch,
Speaker 2: your messaging. I was like, this is whine. This is
Speaker 2: my need to stop making friends because I don't have time.
Speaker 2: I just liked it. Bitch. I was like, I'm not
Speaker 2: even me too, So am I super busy? T T
Speaker 2: T T y up? The fuck? Oh my god, l A,
Speaker 2: that is a very light Sorry, I'm sorry, I'm working
Speaker 2: right now. I'm calling after this conference call.
Speaker 1: Everybody's working, but nobody's work, nobody's everyone's available, but no
Speaker 1: one's everybody's but.
Speaker 2: They're working so hard. Us included. Yeah, that's every time
Speaker 2: I like wake up and I'm in my deep la lifestyle.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I love it here. This pulls sex, the
Speaker 2: Intercontinental pull downtown not good, not not what does it
Speaker 2: would recommend?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: Not what does the mean? Girls saying not clutch, not clut,
Speaker 2: not fat.
Speaker 1: That pool was very sterile. It was not sterile environment.
Speaker 1: The free hand was dope. The free hand was really cute.
Speaker 1: That pool was fucking freezing though only white people were
Speaker 1: getting in that pool.
Speaker 2: I kept the injury low.
Speaker 1: Were like literally like there all day and I was like,
Speaker 1: do you notice how there's only white people in this pool.
Speaker 2: It's very cold. They don't give a fuck. We put
Speaker 2: our toe in. There was fucking freezing. Finally someone jumped in.
Speaker 2: Wait what did you say. He's like, oh, don't know.
Speaker 2: She's I was like, is he black. She's like he's
Speaker 2: mixed it, like that's his white side and his white
Speaker 2: side was the pool. It's for real. It was really cold.
Speaker 2: But what cars did we pull? My love? Is it
Speaker 2: Tarot time? It's Terra time. Going to our favorite Tero site.
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Speaker 2: Upright, it means intuition, sacred knowledge. What was the card?
Speaker 2: This is I pulled too? This is the High Priestess
Speaker 2: I've been pulling too lately.
Speaker 1: Privately, Okay, thanks for letting me in on your little
Speaker 1: fucking weird taran secret.
Speaker 2: I'm too high for that, okay. The High Priestess card, intuition,
Speaker 2: sacred knowledge define feminine the subconscious mind. While the magician
Speaker 2: is the guardian of the conscious mind and the tangible world,
Speaker 2: the High Priestess is the guardian of the subconscious mind
Speaker 2: and the teacher of the sacred knowledge and hidden mysteries.
Speaker 2: Sitting at the threshold of the conscious and subconscious mind,
Speaker 2: the High Priestess has an innate ability to travel between
Speaker 2: these realms effortlessly. She teaches you that the world is
Speaker 2: not always as it seems, and more profound influences are
Speaker 2: often at play. She ushers you through the thin veil
Speaker 2: of awareness, offering you a deep, intuitive understanding of the
Speaker 2: universe and a heightened awareness of secret and hidden information.
Speaker 2: She signifies spiritual enlightenment and inner elimination, divine knowledge and wisdom.
Speaker 2: She shows up in your chail readings when the veil
Speaker 2: between you and the underworld is thin and you have
Speaker 2: the opportunity to access the knowledge deep within your soul.
Speaker 2: Now is the time to be still so you can
Speaker 2: tune into your intuition. The answers you're seeking will come
Speaker 2: from within, from the deepest truth and knowing. Allow the
Speaker 2: High Priests to become your guide as you venture deep
Speaker 2: into your subconscious mind and access your inner wisdoms. Okay,
Speaker 2: so I think I think I pulled that one, right.
Speaker 2: I think you pulled the Impress. Okay, that was a
Speaker 2: high priesist. This was high priests. Okay, okay, let me
Speaker 2: show it now. I pulled the Empress. Look very powerful,
Speaker 2: both cards, So that's what I was interested to. Both
Speaker 2: women sitting on thrones. So I'm like, oh, yeah, are
Speaker 2: we on fire? We're on fucking thrones. Do we need
Speaker 2: to get throne cheers? Maybe? Oh my god, I need
Speaker 2: to replace these. Why don't we ever use those big
Speaker 2: wooden ones only one? That's why there's two of them,
Speaker 2: they'd be too big. Oh my god, those look like
Speaker 2: royalty though. Could we buy those off your mom? Felici?
Speaker 2: We don't hold these right, quier? Okay? The Impress. The
Speaker 2: Impress signifies a strong connection with with our femininity. Feminity
Speaker 2: translates in many ways elegant sensuality, fertility, creativity, expression, nurturing,
Speaker 2: and is necessary for creating balance in both men and women.
Speaker 2: The Impress calls on you to connect with your feminine energy.
Speaker 2: Create beauty in your life. Connect with your senses through taste, touch, sound, smell,
Speaker 2: in sight. Draw on these senses to experience pleasure and
Speaker 2: deep fulfillment. Treat yourself to a day spa, learn massage,
Speaker 2: enjoy a fine restaurant, or spend more time with your partner.
Speaker 2: Discover different approaches to expressing yourself creatively, be it through painting, music, drama,
Speaker 2: or other art forms. This may be the perfect chance
Speaker 2: to take up a new hobby that enables you to
Speaker 2: access this part of yourself. It signifies abundance. You're surrounded
Speaker 2: by life's pleasures and luxuries and have everything you need
Speaker 2: to live a comfortable lifestyle. You're in a period of
Speaker 2: growth in which all you have dreamed is now coming
Speaker 2: to fruition. When the Impress appears in your chail reading,
Speaker 2: take a moment to reflect on the bounty that surrounds
Speaker 2: you and offer gratitude for all you have created, so
Speaker 2: you can continue to build on this energy and create
Speaker 2: even more abundance in your life. Oooh yeah boom. So
Speaker 2: basically it's a.
Speaker 3: Payin off bach the cars say bow bow bow bow
Speaker 3: bow boo getting paid bow spear savvy get paid bage
Speaker 3: and with money, shit can't go wrong here.
Speaker 2: I need the money of the spirits and of the
Speaker 2: real coins. I believe that. I believe that. And over
Speaker 2: the weekend we had two really strong cards and pinnacles too,
Speaker 2: which is like the money cards, and they were abundant,
Speaker 2: and I'm feeling I'm feeling like all the things are
Speaker 2: on the way. Do you have an affirmation for us
Speaker 2: my lives? Do I have an affirmation? Let's think everything
Speaker 2: is always as it should be, Everything is always as
Speaker 2: it should be. Yes, that's my affirmation. I believe that
Speaker 2: everything happens for a reason, even when I'm confused.
Speaker 1: As fuck's that's at least that's my hope that I'm
Speaker 1: trying to believe. Yeah, but I feel more, I feel
Speaker 1: more like I am in that space in my life though,
Speaker 1: I feel more like unstoppable and the and like I
Speaker 1: don't feel the me even this actually this weekend, I
Speaker 1: had this moment where I felt jealousy about like one
Speaker 1: of my peers, and I had to check myself.
Speaker 2: And be like, bitch, that doesn't take anything away from you. Stop.
Speaker 2: Everything is as it should be. Girl, You're good. This
Speaker 2: is You're on your own fucking path.
Speaker 1: And the amount of signs that I've had to attest
Speaker 1: to that, like I'm like, I'm good, I'm good.
Speaker 2: I know that. I know that, Like, no, congratulations, that's amazing.
Speaker 2: I know she's like i'mnauseous. I'm like, it's fine, girl,
Speaker 2: that'shus our shit, Like I'm not tripping. I we have
Speaker 2: a big week, my love, and we have like a
Speaker 2: lot of conversations happening all the time, and so you know,
Speaker 2: there's just endless opportunities. Oh for sure, I know that.
Speaker 2: That's why to check myself.
Speaker 1: But because I genuinely know that, But it's like sometimes
Speaker 1: you do you go and I don't know, like you
Speaker 1: have to. I feel like me, maybe I haven't always
Speaker 1: known that. Sometimes I have to, like I go back
Speaker 1: to like former version of the lower vibrational version of
Speaker 1: myself when it comes to those things.
Speaker 2: Well, no one's like great overnight, like this is all
Speaker 2: we have like, but is it visceral responses? You know,
Speaker 2: things like but it's just it was just like the
Speaker 2: moments after that you're allowed to feel those ways, and
Speaker 2: then you give yourself the opportunity to, you know, like
Speaker 2: evaluate the feelings and what you're saying and why you're
Speaker 2: saying it, and then rationalize your feelings and not even
Speaker 2: rationalize them, but feel them and then release them because
Speaker 2: they're not real. Sometimes well, and I.
Speaker 1: Think people have the feelings, they just don't say them
Speaker 1: out loud. And I'm just saying it out loud, like
Speaker 1: just like I've said out loud to you. Like there's
Speaker 1: been moments where I felt jealous. There's been moments where
Speaker 1: I felt like less than There's been moments where like,
Speaker 1: these are not popular things you ever want to share
Speaker 1: with your friends because it makes you look like a.
Speaker 2: Hater or like weak. But we're human, you know, And
Speaker 2: in that moment, I felt very human.
Speaker 1: And I had to check myself and say, no, this
Speaker 1: is that's not actually human, that's not actually the human
Speaker 1: you are.
Speaker 2: But that's also like the you know, when you feel away,
Speaker 2: I can't remind you like we got this, we're good.
Speaker 2: And when I'm feeling away. You're like, we got this.
Speaker 2: Just talk, bitch, we talk. You could do this, Yeah,
Speaker 2: because I needed pep talks, you know, like, I appreciate
Speaker 2: our partnership for that reason, even if we do suffer
Speaker 2: from intense separation. Exciting, but I feel good. I feel happy,
Speaker 2: I feel super high, and I feel like I'm talking
Speaker 2: in that high voice and I are. I'm like, okay, well,
Speaker 2: I know everyone's gonna Orlando's gonna talk shit to me,
Speaker 2: but now I hear it after nine o'clock and it's
Speaker 2: the wave you gotta shout out baby Hello. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: just wait, what was the episode of We're Like, We're
Speaker 2: tending we were each other? Is that last week? LaToya?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I forgot about Yeah. I can't wait
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