1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 2: And welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori with you. 3 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:11,120 Speaker 2: Katie Beecher is a licensed counselor and medical and emotional 4 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 2: intuitive with more than thirty five years of experience. Has 5 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 2: been featured in over two hundred media outlets. Katie creates 6 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 2: detailed physical and emotional reports for clients to gain insight 7 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:27,319 Speaker 2: into their emotional needs and wellbeing. Katie, welcome back to 8 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 2: the program. 9 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 3: Thank you, Jor just nice to be here. 10 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 2: How have you been. 11 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 3: I've been great. I'd been great. Florida is getting into 12 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 3: very nice spring time, so I'm enjoying the weather in 13 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 3: my gardening. 14 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:45,200 Speaker 2: Super Now, what exactly is a medical intuitive. 15 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 3: Well, I work a little bit different than most people 16 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 3: who do this, but I am able to tune into 17 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 3: people's energy, to their bodies. I can see inside their bodies. 18 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 3: I in when I create my cots, I only use 19 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 3: an age and someone's name, and the purpose is to 20 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 3: really look at every single thing in their life, happening 21 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 3: currently or in the past, so things like traumas or 22 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 3: childhood experiences, relationships. I can certainly look at their physical 23 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 3: and emotional symptoms and their spiritual life, how they're connecting 24 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 3: with intuition. And I look at everything going on, and 25 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 3: we look at the positives, so it's not just negative, 26 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 3: positive and negatives of how to help people be healthier, 27 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 3: how to help them heal, how to maybe I'm not 28 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 3: legally able to diagnose, but I can point them in 29 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 3: the direction of you know, these symptoms kind of look 30 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 3: like this, and this is how we can help you 31 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 3: get evaluated more. But it's a way to look at 32 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 3: someone's physical, emotional, and spiritual health and help them be 33 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 3: happier and healthier and you know, live a longer life. 34 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 2: And you also do pet readings, don't you explain that 35 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 2: I do? 36 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 3: So pet readings are kind of they're extra fun because 37 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 3: they're kind of like a two for one for the 38 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 3: human and the pet, and I tune into the pets energy. 39 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 3: And part of that part of both readings is that 40 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 3: I create fit a watercolor painting and it's kind of 41 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 3: a soul painting, so it's a symbolic way to receive 42 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 3: and transmit information. But animals are really fun. I could 43 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 3: do animals that are here now and animals that have passed, 44 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 3: and they tell me all about their background. So sometimes 45 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 3: people will adopt a pet and it'll have behavioral issues 46 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 3: or emotional issues, and they'll tell me about the things 47 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 3: that they've experienced or things going on in their bodies. 48 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 3: And often pets are really here to protect and nurture us, 49 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 3: to care for us, and we think it's the other 50 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 3: way around, But I think pets are extremely old souls 51 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 3: and they want their owner to be healthy and happy. 52 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,799 Speaker 3: So their pets tell me a lot about what that 53 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:16,239 Speaker 3: human needs, and they also pick up on the symptoms 54 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 3: of their owner. So it's so fascinating that I will 55 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 3: pick up an animal who has gut issues or you know, 56 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 3: hip issues, or even anxiety, and it's their way of 57 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 3: trying to get their owner's attention and saying, you know, 58 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 3: if you want me to be healthier, you have to 59 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 3: address these issues for yourself. So yeah, it's a really 60 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 3: really fun process. 61 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 2: Now you also look at evil, where does that fit 62 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 2: into the scheme of things skatie. 63 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 3: Evil is? It's complicated and it's not So I really 64 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 3: believe in the concept of good and evil, and I 65 00:03:56,760 --> 00:04:01,119 Speaker 3: look at it as hate and love, and we as 66 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 3: humans have a fascination with evil. I think people I 67 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 3: learned are very afraid of it for a good reason, right, 68 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 3: but they're also really facinated with it. And there's all 69 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 3: you know, true crime dramas, for example, horror movies. It's 70 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 3: when I when we go on Netflix, all the top 71 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 3: shows seem to be true crime, and you know, mass 72 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 3: murderers and child abusers and all these interesting things. And 73 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:34,720 Speaker 3: I think that we all have parts of ourselves that 74 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 3: are loving and good, and then we have the capacity 75 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 3: to go the other way, you know, and and hate 76 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 3: and have intolerance. So when you're talking about illness, for example, 77 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 3: and even attitude, I really enjoyed your previous guest. I 78 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:54,919 Speaker 3: do a lot of that type of thing, you know, 79 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 3: with my readings. But we can go both ways. So 80 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 3: let's say we were abused as a child, and that 81 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 3: can create a lot of hate and mistrust, and maybe 82 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 3: you get mad at God and you don't really If 83 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 3: you don't work on those issues and don't work on 84 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 3: recovering and don't decide that you want to break that cycle, 85 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 3: you can get caught up in that anger and hurt people. 86 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 3: Hurt is that same And one of the things in 87 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 3: that was true in my family. I grew up with 88 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 3: people who were really insecure and angry, and one of 89 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 3: my parents hadn't been treated well at all, and unfortunately 90 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 3: that caused him, I believe you know from my experience, 91 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 3: that caused him to embrace evil and negativity and fear 92 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 3: and intolerance, and so that is what he passed on, 93 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 3: and I decided that I wanted to go to the 94 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 3: opposite route. So, just like so many people that I encounter, 95 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 3: I've been a cycle breaker. But when I was younger, 96 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 3: around I guess around ten, I started to sense a 97 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 3: lot of negative energies. And I thought it was because 98 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 3: we grew up in an old house. It was eighteen 99 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 3: seventy three, and I always picked up energies that they 100 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 3: felt positive. And I'm not sure why it started to 101 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 3: change at some point, but I was absolutely terrified to 102 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 3: be in my house, and especially at night or trying 103 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 3: to get to bed, or when it was dark. I 104 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 3: had a real fear of the dark. And I thought 105 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 3: it was because I was picking up these negative energies. 106 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 3: But what I learned much later is that I was 107 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 3: picking up the negativity and hate from the people in 108 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 3: my family, and so it made me want to go 109 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 3: the opposite way. I really believe in This might sound crazy, 110 00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 3: but I really believe that since I ended up being 111 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 3: a light worker and helping people and helping people connect 112 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 3: to love and health, that that negative energy tried to 113 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 3: change me and tried to make it into make me 114 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 3: into what it was, which was hateful and angry and negative. 115 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 2: How did you overcome that on your own? 116 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 3: Katie Well, I had a terrifying experience that woke me up. 117 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 3: I was in college and I I was in Washington, DC, 118 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 3: and my boyfriend at the time was in Connecticut. And 119 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 3: I didn't try. It just sort of happened. I had 120 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 3: an out of body experience and I hadn't been drinking. 121 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 3: I had, you know, there was no you know, alcoholic 122 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 3: you're about, But I found myself in my boyfriend's room. 123 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 3: My spirit had gone to his room and I could 124 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:59,239 Speaker 3: describe things in his room. I described the sky looked 125 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 3: like outside he was looking at and at first it 126 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 3: was it was okay, it was just very, very strange. 127 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 3: But then on my way back, I felt myself going back, 128 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 3: I felt myself attached to a chord and this I 129 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 3: can only describe it as this half human, half monster, 130 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 3: and it literally looked like a monkey. So I called 131 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 3: this monkey on my back, but it got attached to 132 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 3: me and the absolutely the most evil I've ever felt. 133 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 3: And I pick up evil all the time, like different 134 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 3: politicians that I've actually been physically near and things like that, 135 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 3: and you know, and so I just kept trying to 136 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 3: shake it off. I said the Lord's prayer over and 137 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 3: over again, and I was able to get it off, 138 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 3: but it was literally terrifying. And so I had a 139 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,199 Speaker 3: really good therapist at the time, thankfully I was only, 140 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 3: you know, seventeen, So I talked to her about it, 141 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 3: and she was very accepting the idea of good and evil. 142 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 3: She's a Youngian psychologist. Guys have talked about Carl Young before, 143 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 3: and she taught me something that sticks to me to 144 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 3: this day. And she said that when you are a good, 145 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 3: loving person and in a good headspace, and none of 146 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 3: us are perfect, well you know, debate, but that you 147 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 3: are always stronger than evil. Love is always stronger than evil. 148 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 3: So if you keep a positive attitude and try to 149 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 3: be a loving person and let evil know like you 150 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 3: cannot come near me, you cannot hurt me, there's nothing 151 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 3: that you can do to make me like you, then 152 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 3: that really is what's worked my entire life. 153 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 2: Fascinating. What do you think creates the evil and people? 154 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 2: Is it the way they're brought up or are they 155 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 2: born that way? 156 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 3: I happen to believe that it's the way that they're 157 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 3: brought up. Doing this work for as long as I have, 158 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 3: I've worked with a lot of abuse victims, and I 159 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 3: think that we are born kind of blank slates. Having 160 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:18,439 Speaker 3: said that, if you are in the womb and your 161 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 3: parents are fighting a lot, or there's a lot of 162 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 3: anxiety or turmoil, like the last guess was kind of 163 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 3: talking about, you know, or you're not absorbing nutrition because 164 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 3: maybe your parents not taking good care of themselves or 165 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 3: they're addicted. That really does affect brain development. And so 166 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 3: I think that we are more susceptible if we are 167 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:47,319 Speaker 3: have been abused, don't have a lot of nurturing, aren't 168 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 3: exposed to love, feel abandoned, you know, feel unsafe, and 169 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 3: maybe our brain chemistry isn't in a great place. So 170 00:10:56,400 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 3: I think that we we learn negativity and and I've 171 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 3: seen it so many times that that kids that I've 172 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 3: worked with, if they can find one positive person in 173 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 3: their life, and maybe it's a therapist, maybe a teacher, 174 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 3: maybe a grandparent, or a neighbor, that one person has 175 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 3: so much power to change who they are and how 176 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 3: they deal with life and their mental and emotional health. 177 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 3: So again I really think, you know, love is more 178 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 3: powerful than. 179 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 2: Evil, Katie, How did the intuitive this happen? 180 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 3: I was born that way, I believe, and then it developed. 181 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 3: But I remember at a very very young age being 182 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 3: a toddler, even and unfortunately part of my family, my 183 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:49,199 Speaker 3: extended family, they were really negative and there was anger, 184 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 3: and there was emotional abuse, and I picked it up 185 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 3: at a really young age. And I remember being at 186 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 3: family gatherings and we would go, you know, to my 187 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 3: grandmother's every Sunday, and whenever one family or one person 188 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 3: would leave, the rest of the people there would start, 189 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 3: you know, saying really bad stuff about the person who 190 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 3: had left, and I remember thinking, this is just not family, 191 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 3: this is not how I want to be, and I was. 192 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,559 Speaker 3: I always picked up on people's thoughts and feelings, and 193 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 3: you know, even my parents recognized it. They were kind 194 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 3: of like, where is this coming from? And my grandmother's 195 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 3: energy I always felt really evil. So I just never 196 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 3: felt safe there and never wanted to go there. And 197 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 3: so over time as I learned to trust that and 198 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 3: to figure out that when I did trust that gut 199 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 3: feeling and we all had intuition, we all have those 200 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 3: gut feelings, we all have that kind of inner compass. 201 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 3: But the more I trusted that and realized that it 202 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 3: was valid, then it opened me up to trusting it 203 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 3: even more. And I working with clients from doing from 204 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 3: having weird things happen to me, you know, like I did, 205 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 3: and picking up on spirits from the other side and 206 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 3: different guides and things, actually hearing voices in my head 207 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:16,319 Speaker 3: when I was yelling telling me to do things, which 208 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 3: sounds crazy to say out loud, but it was, you know, 209 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 3: it was positive. And the more that I just let 210 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 3: that develop and then realized that mediumship is a thing, 211 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 3: you know. So it happened over time and one of 212 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:37,119 Speaker 3: the big factors. And I would really encourage the listeners 213 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 3: to try this out if they can. There are things 214 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 3: called spiritualist churches. Have you ever talked about that on 215 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 3: the air before? 216 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 2: What are they? 217 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 3: Okay? So, a spiritualist church is a super cool thing, 218 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 3: and they actually have mediumship readings and energy healings during 219 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 3: the service, so they believe that when we pass, we 220 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 3: go to another place, and that people don't die. They 221 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 3: still I mean they die, but their souls don't die, 222 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:15,559 Speaker 3: and so we have access to them and there are 223 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 3: guides and they It was kind of mind blowing when 224 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 3: I went to my first service and it was sort 225 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 3: of like a regular church and there was a reading 226 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 3: from you know something, and then a medium got up 227 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 3: and actually did readings for the people in the crowd. 228 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 3: And the premise of the church is basically doing to 229 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 3: others as you, you know, have them do unto you. 230 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 3: So it's all about love and acceptance. And they have 231 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 3: mediumship circles where you can learn more about intuition, you 232 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 3: can learn more about connecting with the other side. It's 233 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 3: it's I wish I had found it much earlier in 234 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 3: my life, and some people think it's kind of out there, 235 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 3: but they're you know, nationally accredited, they're huge over in 236 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 3: the UK. So meeting more people like me helped me 237 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 3: develop my abilities and accept them. 238 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 2: Fascinating. We haven't talked specifically about the church, but we've 239 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 2: talked a lot about the things you just mentioned that 240 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 2: happened within that church. 241 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 3: Hmm, yeah, yeah. Spiritualism started basically with Fox Sisters in Lilydale, 242 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 3: New York. I don't have the exact origin, but that's 243 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 3: sort of the story. And Lilydale still exists. They have 244 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 3: pretty cool classes and readings and programs and things in 245 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 3: the summer. But yeah, started in the late eighteen hundreds, 246 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 3: and Harry Houdini was he was very much into it, 247 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 3: but he was also a skeptic and he had, you know, 248 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 3: sort of packed to talk to his mom after she died, 249 00:15:56,160 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 3: and then was furious that no medium could connect them. 250 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 3: So it's his, you know, part of that story. I 251 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 3: don't know how much it involved him getting into magic, 252 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 3: but it's a kind of cool part of the story. 253 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 2: He desperately tried to find mediums that could make that 254 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 2: happen for him. 255 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and what it didn't. I think it really 256 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 3: shook his beliefs. 257 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 2: Are we bombarded on a regular basis by evil? 258 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 3: I believe, so, I really do. I think what I've 259 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 3: learned is and experienced from my clients as well. The 260 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 3: negative and positive energy is always around, and so most 261 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 3: people have experienced this to a certain degree. I think 262 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 3: if you're an mpath, which is somebody who picks up 263 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 3: on other people's energies more readily than others. You are 264 00:16:56,400 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 3: more likely to feel it and encounter. But it can 265 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 3: be in the form of, you know, of hatred, or 266 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 3: of somebody who's very anxious all the time so they 267 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 3: don't trust, or who is a bully, things like that. 268 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 3: But I think that negative energy is always around and 269 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 3: you kind of have to be on guard to be 270 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:25,120 Speaker 3: like check in with yourself, you know, is the way 271 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 3: that I am treating people coming from a place of 272 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 3: love and kindness and acceptance, Or am I being judgmental? 273 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:36,439 Speaker 3: You know? Am I trying to control people? Am I 274 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,439 Speaker 3: trying to tell them what to do or pass on 275 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 3: my beliefs to them? And that's one way that that 276 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 3: evil gets transmitted. So it's sort of a you know, 277 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 3: even like for example, when I was young, the Exorcist 278 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:54,959 Speaker 3: came out and stating myself a little bit, but I 279 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 3: was ten and I was absolutely terrified to watch that. 280 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 3: I was terrified of the advertisements on the radio or 281 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 3: NTV when I heard the theme song. And I learned 282 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 3: later that that's because I take good and evil very seriously, 283 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 3: Like I recognize that evil exists, and I was so 284 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:23,199 Speaker 3: afraid that I was going to become possessed and you know, 285 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 3: lose myself. I'm not afraid of that anymore at all. 286 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 3: But so there's those kind of influences. I'm not saying 287 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,199 Speaker 3: that watching, you know, a horror movie is going to 288 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 3: make you evil. That I'm not saying that at all, 289 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 3: And I really envy the people that can watch them 290 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 3: and laugh. But you know, there's for instance, family members 291 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 3: or coworkers or whatever who are really negative and controlling, 292 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 3: and it can be hard to escape that and set 293 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 3: really healthy boundaries to decide what you want in your 294 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 3: life and what you don't. 295 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 1: Listen to more. Coast to Coast am every weeknight at 296 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: one a m. Eastern and go to Coast to Coast 297 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 1: a m dot com for more