1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: The volume. What is going on everybody? John Middlecoff three 2 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 1: and out podcast on this beautiful Friday. I think you 3 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 1: could be listening whenever to podcasts. Here's the game planning today, 4 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: a little football talk off the top. Then we went 5 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:33,559 Speaker 1: mail bag at John Middlecoff. Is the Instagram fire in 6 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: those dms? Get your question answered here on the mailbag. 7 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:39,639 Speaker 1: Somehow we had a lot of Minnesota questions. Maybe it's 8 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: the Quarterback documentary because of Kirk Cousins, who has the 9 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: smallest TV in the history of rich people in their 10 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: living room. I think I had a bigger TV in 11 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 1: the late nineties in my room in junior high. That's 12 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: just come on, Kirk. I understand you can't. You gotta 13 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: have a bigger TV in the location of it. I 14 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: just don't understand his living room. Huge, huge red flag. 15 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 1: I got on my man Cousins in the first episode. 16 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: That's all I've watched. Someone else hit me up on 17 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: social media. They're like, middle cough, you hate hard knocks. 18 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:16,559 Speaker 1: How are you doing an ad read for quarterbacks? Because 19 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 1: it's not hard knocks. We're not watching some undrafted free agent. 20 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: I'm just watching Patrick Mahomes and Cousins I'm just watching 21 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 1: two quarterbacks and Mariota miked up all season long. This 22 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,639 Speaker 1: is them. That's it. If you told me Hard Knocks 23 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: was just Aaron Rodgers for four episodes, I'd be much 24 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: more interested. But you know, there's gonna be some story 25 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: about some veteran guy who's about to get cut and 26 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:41,759 Speaker 1: some undrafted free agent trying to make the team. It's 27 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: gonna be terrible if you just said, hey, it was 28 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: just cut, It's just Rogers and Robert sala be like, 29 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: I'm in. We know that's not the way it ever 30 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: plays out. So I would say the docuseriies on the 31 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: Quarterbacks is a little bit different than what Hard Knocks 32 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: has become. Sorry for a little tangent there, but so 33 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: football podcast now now, I was also on Collins podcast, 34 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: so you can hear a lot of me probably on 35 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: the feeds talking to obviously football and it's right around 36 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 1: the corner. So we're ramping up. Other than that, no 37 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: podcast this weekend. Go out and enjoy the heat. 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Okay, let's 66 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: get into Saquon Barkley. And this is one where me 67 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: and the former player Slash Media are not on the 68 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: same page. I just don't fall under the umbrella of 69 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: always I gotta pay him, pay him. He's getting screwed 70 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: like not. Everybody in life, and definitely in pro sports 71 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: is always getting screwed by the quote unquote man. And 72 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: in this situation, I've been pretty adamant that I think 73 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: it's been a lucrative partnership for Saquon. Right, he hasn't 74 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: been underpaid when you factor in how many games he's 75 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: played over the years and how much money he made 76 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: because of where he was drafted and then his fifth 77 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: year option and even this franchise tag. If he were 78 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: to play on this franchise tag, he will have averaged 79 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: over his first six years eight million dollars a year. Right, 80 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: And to me for what he gave when you factor 81 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 1: in the injuries, I think it's been pretty lucrative for 82 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: the guy, right, And here's the other thing. There was 83 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: a contract signed early in the morning. I saw pop 84 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: up on my phone that Quinn Williams, the highly drafted 85 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 1: defensive lineman from Alabama for the New York Jets, was 86 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:36,239 Speaker 1: given a large extension. I think well over sixty million 87 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:42,119 Speaker 1: dollars ninety plus non guaranteed. Right, and not a soul 88 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 1: is gonna go. Yeah, dumb deal. Every single person's like this. 89 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: He would have done it, no brainer, defensive lineman. Whatever 90 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: Nick Bosa gets paid, yeah, would have done it too, 91 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: Micah Parsons. But those type players, no one even hesitates. 92 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 1: Yet every time with a running backs like ooh, wouldn't 93 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: have done that. Isn't there a point where in any 94 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 1: line of work where if the business deal on one 95 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 1: side goes God? This is it's one thing to have risk. 96 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: Any business deal, whether you're buying a house, whether you're 97 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 1: buying a car, whether you're investing in a running back 98 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: or defensive lineman, has risk. Right. Paying Aaron Judge after 99 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 1: historic season has risk. You have to do it. Paying 100 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: Bryce Harper three hundred million dollars is risky. You have 101 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: to do it. It's a no brainer to me. When 102 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 1: it's one thing to be a no brainer, and it's 103 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: another thing to be close to on the fence. Is 104 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 1: this a good idea? And I think every running back 105 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: falls under that category. And I think Josh Jacobs, who's 106 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 1: a really, really good player, who is a guy you 107 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: would want on your team, can you give him a 108 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: four year contract of thirty to forty million dollars guaranteed? 109 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: How can anyone agree that that is good business? He's 110 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 1: been hurt countless times in his career. Same with Sakwan Barkley. 111 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 1: Tony Poller looked freaking awesome last year. How to season 112 00:05:56,000 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: end ankle shattered? Now I understand on their side why 113 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 1: you would want to get the long term contract. There's 114 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: a lot of risk in playing running back. But how 115 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: can the universal thinking or thought process when it comes 116 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 1: to the position go can't pay him, can't pay him? 117 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: And every time a guy that's kind of good or 118 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 1: is a good player comes up, it's like, ah, they 119 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: got to do it. Why I just don't understand it. 120 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 1: And listen, I've seen I saw Albert Brier today with 121 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: Coward on TV. He said, this really signals to the 122 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: locker room they take care of the players. This isn't 123 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: the NBA. This isn't professional baseball. There's like a thirty 124 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 1: to forty percent churn in every NFL team every single year. 125 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 1: You lose countless players all the time. Now, I understand Saque, 126 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: high character guy. They like him, he represents the franchise. Well, 127 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 1: he's good in the market. I'm not saying he's not valuable, 128 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: and I'm not I don't actually care how much money 129 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: these guys make. Like I'm not coming at it from 130 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 1: like I think these guys make too much. Like, you know, 131 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: the chemistry teacher deserves his much as the starting pitchers. Like, No, 132 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: she can't throw a hundred. You know, she can't win 133 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 1: games for the Yankees. Right, That's not what I'm saying. 134 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: But in a salary cap league, and in a league 135 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: where it's very very hard to find tackles and edge 136 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: rushers and quarterbacks, right, Hell, I can find wide receivers. 137 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: I might not be able to get Jamar Chase, But 138 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: can I get Ceedee Lamb? Can I get Deebo Samuel? Right? 139 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: I get AJ Brown on the trade block. I didn't 140 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: get dk Metcalf at the end of the second round. Well, 141 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: no position beside like interior offensive lineman that no one 142 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: actually cares about not that they don't matter on your team. 143 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, no, we don't spend much time talking 144 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: about guards and centers in this business. Running back is 145 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: a position that we talk about a lot, right, It's 146 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: usually I'm not a huge fantasy football guy, but they're 147 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: usually the number one picks in fantasy football. They've been 148 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: one of the most famous positions in the history of 149 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: the sport, and for a large percentage of time, they 150 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: were the most important guy on offense. Right, definitely in 151 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: like the seventies. Probably started shifting a little bit in 152 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: the eighties, But when I was a kid, I mean, 153 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: Barry Sanders Emitt Smith were every bit as big as 154 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: like Brett Farven Troy Aigman. I'm not saying they were 155 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: as important. You can make that argument really for Amitt 156 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: for a period of time, but you could also say 157 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: they had such a good offensive line. But my point 158 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: is that they're a very famous position. They're also a 159 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: very replaceable position. And I completely understand locker room dynamics. 160 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying, like, just screw Sakuon Barkley, but 161 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: I don't think I would butt he wants sixteen million 162 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: they're willing to offer him thirteen million, thirteen million over 163 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: how many years? How much do we have to guarantee? 164 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 1: Because I'll promise you this, If you give him a 165 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 1: five year deal at well over sixty million dollars and 166 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: it's a forty plus million dollars guaranteed from an economic standpoint, 167 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. That's just bad business. It really is. And 168 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: here's the other thing. Everyone's like, well, they gave Daniel 169 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 1: Jones all that money fifteen touchdowns. It is much more 170 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: difficult to find a quarterback that is not debatable? Right, 171 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: is Daniel Jones an eighty plus million dollars guaranteed given 172 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 1: what we've seen throughout his career? Of course not. Does 173 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: his position make it much more difficult for anyone to pivot. 174 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: The other thing is, it's not like they suck last year. 175 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: Who were they they were drafting in the twenties, that 176 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: they made the playoffs, they won a playoff game. He 177 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: is not a replaceable player. And you could argue on 178 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 1: this given team, Saikwan's not a replaceable player. Okay, play 179 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: on the franchise tag that I would not budge on 180 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: any of these guys on the franchise tag unless okay, 181 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 1: you want fifteen can I give you a two year, 182 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: twenty eight million dollar deal. I'll guarantee every penny. Teams 183 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: don't like to do that because the way it messes 184 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 1: with your salary cap. It's why they like doing the 185 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,199 Speaker 1: longer term deals, which are very easy when you get 186 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: a Quinn Williams or a Nick Bosa because you can 187 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 1: amortize it over the salary cap. Well, the way you 188 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: want to do with the running back and the amount 189 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 1: of money they want, it becomes very it becomes difficult. 190 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 1: It's easy to sign a guard like two years, ten 191 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: million dollars, it's much harder once that number gets closer 192 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: to fifteen plus million dollars. And you want to keep 193 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 1: it short, they want to keep it long. These are complicated, 194 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 1: but this notion that they have to prove some to 195 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: the locker room or they couldn't figure out how to 196 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: operate if Saque hasn't been around, like he hasn't been 197 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: around at points in time of his career because he 198 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,559 Speaker 1: gets injured, and that's a huge That is the main 199 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 1: concern with this position. Beside how easy it is to 200 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: find a starter on the third day of the draft, 201 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: how many guys start in the NFL that are undrafted 202 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: free agents at the position. It's why most really good 203 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: tackles get drafted pretty high. You can look all over 204 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: the league, guards and centers find fifth round picks, seventh 205 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: round picks, undrafted free agents. There's not many Trent Williams 206 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,839 Speaker 1: that are first round picks. It's what makes the Eagle 207 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: situation so crazy. They got a rugby player in the 208 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: seventh round and they molded him to a star tackle, 209 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: but he had to beat out and ultimately take out 210 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: a first round pick in Andre Dillard and replace Jason 211 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 1: Peters who was a premium player who ironically I think 212 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: also was an undrafted free agent. But these are outlier 213 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: situation so I just never understand like this guy's getting 214 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: screwed when he's made a lot of money and the 215 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: franchise tag pays a premium. Speaking of running backs, I 216 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: listened to Brad Holmes, the general manager who has a 217 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 1: fascinating story with Peter Scheger on his podcast. Talked about 218 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: how he broke into the NFL as a PR guy 219 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 1: and then but mainly one thing that stood out to 220 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: me about the conversation is he discussed the draft this 221 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: year and they talked about taking a running back high 222 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: and how you know, most people's reaction was he was 223 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 1: a village idiot. You can't make that move. And this 224 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: gets back to the running back situation with Saquan Jacobs Paullard. 225 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: The most valuable time for one of these running backs now, 226 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:45,199 Speaker 1: especially if you are going to draft a guy relatively high, 227 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: is their rookie contract. It's no different with the quarterback. 228 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: It's the easiest time to build your team. The difference 229 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: is even once I have to pay Mahomes or once 230 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 1: I have to pay Herbert, or once I have to 231 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: pay Joe Burrow, I still feel pretty confident about my 232 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: ability to compete. Once I had to pay Zeke it 233 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: was a problem on my salary cap Todd Gurley. Once 234 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: I had to pay Todd Gurley and he wasn't the 235 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: same guy, it becomes a major major issue because that 236 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: amount of money when he becomes, you know, like instead 237 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 1: of being an eight out of ten, a two out 238 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 1: of ten, it limits my ability to just sign other 239 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 1: solid positions. Right because I can sign a guard for 240 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: three million dollars, I can sign a safety for four 241 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:27,719 Speaker 1: million dollars. Like that adds up really really fast, and 242 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:32,959 Speaker 1: he discussed It was fascinating because he goes, Listen, everyone 243 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: makes this big deal about how you got to take 244 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 1: a premium position high. It's not as much about the 245 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: position as it is the player. He's like I was 246 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:42,959 Speaker 1: with the Rams when we had the number two overall 247 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: pick in twenty fourteen, we took Greg Robinson because you 248 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 1: got to take a tackle high. How'd that one work out? 249 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 1: And it is true? Right, So I'm a big believer 250 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: in going with the big heavies upfront, taking a d 251 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 1: lineman or taking an offensive lineman more often than not 252 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: a tackle right high in the draft. But you have 253 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 1: to have the right player to pick, like, there's a 254 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: big difference between like Pine Sue or Lane Johnson and 255 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: some guy who's gonna suck. And this is where the 256 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 1: scouting elements of it are. It's not easy. This is 257 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 1: not an exact science, right, It's an inexact science for 258 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 1: a reason. You're dealing with human beings and now you're 259 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: dealing with the difference of offenses in college have never 260 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: been more different than a lot of the things that 261 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: you're doing in the NFL, especially when it comes to 262 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: offensive linemen. So his whole point. And the other thing 263 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: I'm glad he said this is this draft sucked, right, 264 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: This draft was not good. Do you want to have 265 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:43,319 Speaker 1: a seven point two percent interest rate on the mortgage? 266 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 1: Of course not. But what if you get a house 267 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: right now for three hundred thousand dollars less than it 268 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:51,199 Speaker 1: was a year ago. You got to think about it, right, 269 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: Do you want to spend it seven percent on a 270 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 1: home when that home is two hundred thousand dollars more 271 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: than it was six months ago? Yeah? Probably not. But 272 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: getting the right player is what matters. Getting value based 273 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:08,199 Speaker 1: on the circumstances matters. And this kid, who they are 274 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: very very high on, you listen to him like this 275 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: was one of his favorite players in the draft, and 276 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: then the other players surrounding him were not very good. 277 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: So in a loaded draft, word viewed like, hey, you 278 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: could have got a sweet starter defensive tackle, you could 279 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: have got some awesome corner like I would understand it. 280 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: But that's not how people in the league viewed this thing. 281 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: I would imagine you could find some teams that might 282 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: not have had ten first round picks, let alone fifteen. 283 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: I would say if we did on average, if I 284 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: had to take an educated guess, that number would be 285 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: between twelve and thirteen guys in this draft graded with 286 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: a first round grade. So when you find yourself in 287 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: a situation like that, I think you can just take 288 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: the best, the guy who you think is the best player, 289 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: even if that is a running back, is a center, 290 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: is a linebacker. I never understand the thing with linebackers, right, 291 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: because I think linebackers are come under the umbrella a 292 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: lot like running backs is you can find really good 293 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: guys in the middle of the drafts. And that's true, 294 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: right Fred Warner third round pick. A lot of guys 295 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: throughout the NFL who are starting middle linebackers were not 296 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: top fifteen picks. But once you get Fred Warner, like 297 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: if there is a guy in the draft, like when 298 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: Roklon was coming out, and you view him as an 299 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: impact starter at that position, that position impacts the game dramatically. 300 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: The three down linebackers, their ability to make every tackle 301 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: in the run game, their ability to cover tight ends, 302 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: and if you depending on what type of defense you run, 303 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: just their ability to run around and zone and make 304 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 1: place is like they never come off the field, and 305 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: when you look at the stat sheet when the game ends, like, Ah, 306 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: they got fourteen tackles, they got a PBu, and they 307 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: set the physical tone for my team. So if this 308 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: guy is an impact running back, it's a no brainer. 309 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: Now back to what we talked about to start the show. 310 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: Where it becomes complicated is the second contract. I love 311 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: that first contract. If he's a good player, second contract, 312 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I probably move on. And last, but not least, 313 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: the Pat Fitzgerald situation. I've been privy to know guys 314 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: in the NFL, players, coaches, and executives that worked and 315 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: played for Pat Fitzgerald, and some of those individuals fall 316 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: under I would say the higher character guys I know 317 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: in my life and they don't just throw out bullshit. 318 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: And hell, I even know people that didn't work or 319 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: play for him. People I know that Howie Roseman loved 320 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: the guy like Pat Fitzgerald isn't just highly thought of. 321 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: He is viewed as like the cream of the crop 322 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: when it comes to character, running a program, just as 323 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: an overall individual. I'm even separating that from football. So 324 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: when I saw a couple of days ago that he 325 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: was fired, I went, what's the point of multiple dec 326 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: decades worth of equity in life? Like He's proven over 327 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: and over and over again to be just a high 328 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: level guy, a trustworthy individual, someone that NFL teams at 329 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: Northwestern were begging him to take their job. And someone 330 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: texts me this week that said, if Pat Fitzgerald can 331 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 1: go down in this business, everyone can, because it's an 332 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 1: industry full of sketchy, questionable characters. And I understand when 333 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 1: Lane got fired back in the day at USC or 334 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: Sark with the drinking issues or Hugh Freeze, their equity 335 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: at a place. Wasn't that long. This guy played there. 336 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 1: He coached his entire career there and for the last 337 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: seventeen years, every single day has represented the football program 338 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 1: the university and has done it as well, if not better. 339 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: I'm just talking from a character representation standpoint. If you 340 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: want to fire someone in sports based on the field 341 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: or on the court, totally get it. He went one 342 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: and eleven last year. If you fired him because you go, 343 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 1: you lost your fastball. You're not a good coach. So 344 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 1: is the business. That's the way the cookie crumbles when 345 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 1: it comes to football, right, you win or you lose. 346 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:12,360 Speaker 1: But part of the reason at one and eleven there 347 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 1: was zero talk about him getting fired was because of 348 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 1: the equity that he has built up. So when a 349 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 1: story comes out in the school newspaper, of course the 350 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 1: media is going to love it, right. They ninety percent 351 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: of them went to school there. They all started at 352 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 1: that school newspaper and we all people like me, you know, 353 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: journalisms kind of dying. They hate that. And so when 354 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: this happens and then you read it's like anonymous sources. 355 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 1: Now he got put on suspension because of I listened 356 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 1: to Stewart Mandel on some uh not Stewart Mandel, but 357 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: Dan Wetzel. This was an investigation that started back I 358 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: think at the beginning of December. So this was something 359 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 1: that just didn't come to fruition a week ago, right, 360 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: So this was something and they suspended it for two weeks. 361 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: But you can see the modern day snowball that a 362 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: four string guy who put his eventually put his name 363 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:06,400 Speaker 1: on it because they were anonymous sources, and rumors are 364 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:08,360 Speaker 1: that this guy had a vandetev out for the guy 365 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: for a long period of time. And I just don't 366 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: understand the point of life equity anymore. If a guy 367 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 1: like Pat Fitzgerald can conduct himself, can operate at a 368 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 1: program for that it's not five years, it's not even ten. 369 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 1: It's seventeen fucking years of proven over and over and 370 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:29,120 Speaker 1: over of just being a high level guy who's beloved 371 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: in the industry, who just held in the highest regard 372 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: when it comes to being a person, when it comes 373 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 1: to the way he coaches, when it comes to just 374 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 1: his overall program and how he represents the university. That 375 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 1: just something that becomes a little he said, she said, 376 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 1: and he's immediately fired. So I see a lot of 377 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: people going, well, of course he's sewing, you know, he 378 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: got fired for costs. No, he's doing because he thinks 379 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 1: he's got railroaded, he got screwed. And I think these situations, 380 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: it's just a very very slippery slope. And I wasn't there. 381 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: Everyone listening, You guys probably weren't there unless you played there. 382 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:06,679 Speaker 1: I don't pretend to know all the details of what 383 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: actually happened, but this one feels a little weird to me. 384 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 1: I have a hard time thinking that this guy was 385 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: just running some renegade program on the side and it 386 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: was just some kind of asshole to certain people. He's 387 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: a coach, so sometimes they're hard on people. Welcome to 388 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: the sport of football. But this notion that you can 389 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: spend all this time, all that loyalty, it also shows 390 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: you why when you get the opportunity in life to upgrade, 391 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 1: there's an element of loyalty when you are emotionally tied 392 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,880 Speaker 1: to someone professionally. Right, he played there, but think how 393 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 1: many times? Whether it be better universities, whether it be 394 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:48,159 Speaker 1: NFL jobs. He said no, He turned down to ultimately 395 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: be fired by the place that loved him the most 396 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: because they, when you know, the fire really got hot, 397 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 1: they turned on him, that they didn't trust the guy 398 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: who had given them seven teen years worth of reasons 399 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: to trust them. Just to me a crazy story with 400 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:10,159 Speaker 1: a just kind of a sad ending. Okay, let's do 401 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 1: a little mail bag at John Middlecoff. Is the Instagram 402 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:17,880 Speaker 1: that's just my name at John Middlecoff and the direct messages. 403 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: Those dms are wide open, so fire in them. Finally 404 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: got a question for you in a formal golf invite, 405 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,919 Speaker 1: like this guy already I hammered two futures for the 406 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 1: NFL and want to hear your thoughts. I know you 407 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,919 Speaker 1: aren't a huge future win total guy, I'm not. I 408 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: don't bet it. I enjoy the conversation. I'm just not 409 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: patient enough my patients. I was looking at tile today 410 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 1: for redoing a bathroom. I could last about ten minutes 411 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: in there, so I definitely don't have four months to 412 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 1: wait on a future bet to hit. Sorry I got 413 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: derailed there division winners, but the Vikings to win the 414 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: North at three to one seems like way too much 415 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: value against a depleted division where their biggest obstacle is 416 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 1: a perennial loser like the Lions who haven't proved it 417 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 1: don't hate it. Also laid a band on Shanny as 418 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: a coach of the year for thirty to one. We 419 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,199 Speaker 1: know he's going with Purdy and it seems inevitable he 420 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,360 Speaker 1: gets his first coach of the year if they can 421 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 1: win the division again with brock Purty. Curious what you 422 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: think of these plays and if you see any other 423 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 1: futures you like beside the Jags division winner that feels 424 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 1: like a lock. Next Saturday, got a tea time at 425 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: Rim Club if you want to escape the heat. I 426 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: think it's like an hour and a half away from me. 427 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: It's supposed to be this next four or five days. 428 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 1: I think close to one to eighteen in Scottsdale. So 429 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: for a guy that plays a lot of golf, I 430 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 1: don't think I've touched the club in a month. It's 431 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: pretty hot, and I like playing in the heat. It's 432 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 1: just got sick. It's been hot. Haven't touched it, but 433 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 1: enjoyed it. I don't think I can make it next Saturday, 434 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 1: but I've always wanted to get up there. I would 435 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 1: say the Jags, I said Locke, the Vikings won. To me, 436 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,679 Speaker 1: that whole situation, that division kind of feels like a 437 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: stay away. I'm not confident the Lions, I'm gonna pick them, 438 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: but anytime Dan Campbell at unproven head coach, Jared Goff 439 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 1: is your quarterback. I know he had success with the Rams, 440 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: but that was with McVeigh. Everyone's acting like Ben Johnson 441 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 1: is the next Lincoln Riley. We'll see. You got to 442 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: do it multiple years talent wise, that they're pretty loaded, 443 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 1: and if this running back's good, they should win the division. 444 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 1: But you get like you said, you get a bet 445 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: on alliance. The Packers probably have good value in the 446 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 1: sense of their number, but how could you put anything 447 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: on Jordan Love. Even Packer fans have to go like, 448 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: I hope it's cool, but it could suck. You guys 449 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: have had it pretty good. Even when you complained over 450 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: the years about the Farv and the Rogers years, you know, 451 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 1: things got a little weird, it was still better than 452 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 1: what I would imagine is coming and the Vikings. I 453 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,640 Speaker 1: watched the first episode of that quarterback documentary. I think 454 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: Cousins is better than we give him credit for. He's 455 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 1: probably closer to ten than he is fifteen quarterback in 456 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,679 Speaker 1: the league, but he does have some limitations. And what 457 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 1: scares me is now he's not their guy, but Kevin 458 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: O'Connell and the general manager I don't want to mess 459 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: up his name, clearly are not all in on the guy, 460 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 1: and not even not all in. They're not extending him, 461 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 1: which Cousins would gladly do an extension, and I know 462 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: he's been extended there before. But it feels like they're 463 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 1: just gonna pivot next year. And who pivots with a 464 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 1: guy that can just give you thirty five touchdowns and 465 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: when you double digit games, that's just an easy thing 466 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: to do. Now, I understand in life, you know, it's 467 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 1: easy to stay in the middle lane. Maybe they think 468 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 1: they can go through the fast lane. You can end 469 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: up in a car crash fast when you make a 470 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: move at quarterback. When Kirk Cousins are starting quarterback, the 471 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 1: chances that you can upgrade off that most people do 472 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: not go Alex Smith to Patrick Mahomes. You're much more 473 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 1: likely to go, you know, Alex Smith to a shitty 474 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 1: guy the way it goes. So I like some of 475 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 1: your plays. Like I said, not against future bets. Patience 476 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: is just not a virtue that the big man upstairs 477 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 1: gave me. Have a question about my Minnesota Vikings. God, 478 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: the Vikings are hot here. I'm used to the slander 479 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: from the media about this team, but this year I 480 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: don't understand it. We were thirteen and four with one 481 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: of the worst defenses in the NFL. We dropped Dontel 482 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 1: for Flores as our defensive coordinator. That's an upgrade for sure. 483 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 1: For anyone who religiously watches this team, they will also 484 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 1: understand that the drop off from Dalvin to Madison is 485 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 1: not that great. I agree the Lions are on the 486 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 1: come up, for sure, but what have they proven so 487 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 1: very similar? Maybe my expectations need to be tempered, but 488 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,120 Speaker 1: I don't see our team being as average as predicted 489 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,120 Speaker 1: by the media. I think the thing when people say 490 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: you're going to be average is that when you win 491 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: all these one score games, the big predictor models, right 492 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 1: from year to year usually factor in if you won. 493 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: Let's just pick a number. You won seven. I don't know. 494 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 1: I don't have the exact number in front of me, 495 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:09,719 Speaker 1: but I think it was like seven or eight, like 496 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 1: one score games, like really really close games, right, that 497 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 1: could flip from year to year. That's seven can be 498 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 1: the difference of going from seven to four. So all 499 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 1: of a sudden, that's a three win swing. So now 500 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: you're ten win team, right, which is still pretty good. 501 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,679 Speaker 1: You take ten and seven. Help, you could argue ten 502 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 1: and seven you might sign up for that right now 503 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 1: because that might win the division. That's a big swing, 504 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 1: And if one other ball doesn't bounce your way, you 505 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 1: can go to nine and eight really quick. So there's 506 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: that's a big comeback, you know, to earth moment, all 507 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 1: of a sudden, you're nine and eight. Maybe you don't 508 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 1: win the division, depending on how the conference plays out, 509 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:45,120 Speaker 1: which we don't think is going to be that great. 510 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 1: Maybe you're the six or seventh wild card. Yeah. I 511 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: just think that your defense in theory should be better, 512 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 1: But what about your personnel, Because part of defense isn't 513 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: just the coordinator, which is important. Vic Fangio, Brian Flores. 514 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 1: When Robert Sala and Demiko Ryans were the defensive coordinator 515 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,400 Speaker 1: for the forty nine ers, they're good. I think they're good, 516 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: but they also had really good players. I think offense 517 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 1: is very schematic, right. Andy Reid can win division after 518 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 1: division with Alex Smith. Sean McVay can shine with Jared 519 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: Gopp because they can scheme up the offense, Kyle with 520 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 1: Purdy and Jimmy Right. Defense a little bit different. You 521 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 1: either got Nick Bosa or Luke Keiklee or some of 522 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 1: these guys, or you don't. Pete Carroll's a really, really 523 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 1: good defensive coach. You could argue in my lifetime, beside Belichick, 524 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 1: you might be the second best defensive coach. His team's 525 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 1: at FC the dominated on defense, and then his teams, 526 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 1: the Lob teams, they had players Georgia Kirby's elite, Saban's elite. 527 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: These guys are elite defensive minds like all time. Saban 528 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 1: learned it from Belichick and they Todd Kirby. These guys 529 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: know everything. They need the players. You need Jalen Carter, 530 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 1: you need Quinn Williams, you need Minko Fitzpatrick. Right, you 531 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,400 Speaker 1: can't just throw me and you out there. But a 532 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 1: great offensive coach could get me and you open on 533 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:13,159 Speaker 1: a rubb route. They just could. But ultimately on an 534 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 1: outside zone, if I'm the middle linebacker, I gotta get there. 535 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 1: I got to avoid the traffick and make the tackle. 536 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 1: If I'm the defensive end, I got to be able 537 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: to get around the edge. I got to either have 538 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 1: a power mover or speed move. I either can bend 539 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 1: like von Miller, or I got some power like Khalil Mack. 540 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 1: Or I'm just not going to be very effective. So 541 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 1: I think that's my question. I don't have your roster 542 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,679 Speaker 1: in front of me, but I think it's fair to 543 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 1: say your defense, you guys were really really good, right 544 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: those teams with case Keenum and then when you got 545 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 1: to Cousins. On the defensive personnel standpoint, you had a 546 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 1: really good defensive line Kendricks and Barr. That's when Xavier 547 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: Road was still a good player, Harrison Smith was younger. 548 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 1: I mean your defense, Sindale love that guy. Since the 549 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: USFL No big deal. Lewis Ridick wouldn't take him to Howie, 550 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 1: but I was all over him. Point is your personnel 551 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: and Zimmer is a really good scheme guy. Excellent scheme guy. 552 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 1: You could argue with schemes a little outdated, but knows 553 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 1: are like the back of his hand. And when he's 554 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 1: got the right players, they were one of the better 555 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 1: defense in the league. But he could not just coach up. 556 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 1: Nobody's at Donnatel, who is a vic Fangio guy? Ed 557 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 1: Donna tell is Fangio's guy. Is he a village idiot? 558 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 1: Or their defensive personnel not great? Another Minnesota Vikings question. 559 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: I'll just get to the point here, Alex. Many sports 560 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 1: podcasters don't really discuss Minnesota sports, and I don't blame them. 561 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: It's been bleak. But in your opinion, which Minnesota franchise 562 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 1: is on the most upward trajectory over the next ten 563 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: years or so, which one of the four main sports 564 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 1: franchises will experience. We're getting a lot of Minnesota hype here. 565 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 1: I would say one thing I saw in the Quarterback 566 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 1: documentary and you see it on TV. Their football stadium 567 00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: never been there, looks remarkable that place. Anyone listening who 568 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 1: has been there, obviously, if you're a Vikings fan, if 569 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 1: you've been there, that place looks like the taj maholl 570 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 1: What an incredible place to play football. What a cool 571 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: that skull When you guys are good is awesome. You 572 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 1: have a thirty five year old quarterback that's not going 573 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: to be resigned. I can't bet on you for the future. 574 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 1: I'm not saying it won't work out, but I'm not 575 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: going to bet on you. The baseball team, guys have 576 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 1: had some moments, even recently. I clearly just haven't been over. 577 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 1: You know, really make a legit run. Basketball wise, you 578 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 1: probably made one of the worst trades in the history 579 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 1: of the sport for Rudy Gobert. I think you'd like 580 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 1: to have a do over on that one. But you 581 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 1: do have Anthony Edwards, who you know, some people think 582 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: has the opportunity to be a top What do you 583 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 1: think seven eight player in the NBA still got a 584 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 1: long way to go, But I would say them I 585 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 1: don't feel great about any of them though. I have 586 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 1: a question for you, first time listener, love the show, 587 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 1: appreciate you. I'm a Rams fan and love my coach McVeigh. 588 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 1: Do you believe this story that Melvin is saying that 589 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 1: McVeigh said he is never paying a running back again, 590 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 1: and now the league fallowed suit which screwed Melvin and others, 591 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 1: or that the league saw the mistakes and are just 592 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 1: using common sense. Of course, McVeigh is gonna say that 593 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 1: he paid a running back way early in it backfire. 594 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 1: But he's not alone. It happens all the time. It 595 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 1: just happened to Jerry Jones. It's kind of out there 596 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 1: in the in the running back world with these three 597 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 1: guys that are on franchise tags and as of recording, 598 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 1: this haven't signed. I saw when Kyle Shanahan had his 599 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 1: first offs, big offseason. Who did he sign Jeric McKinnon to. 600 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 1: I think they gave him like almost twenty maybe it 601 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 1: was twenty two or twenty five million dollars guaranteed back 602 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 1: to back years. Torn Acl just no money. And listen, 603 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 1: you can sign any player, I don't care who he is, 604 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 1: and he can get injured. It does feel though the 605 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 1: running back is the riskiest. It really does, and I 606 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 1: would say history shows that. Look at the Chiefs. They 607 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 1: are a great example that I love. Clyde Edwards Hilaire 608 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 1: that year at LSU when they won the Natty in 609 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. He was freaking awesome. Chiefs take him in 610 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 1: the first round. I think they'd like to have that 611 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 1: one back. Who's the best running back they've had during 612 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 1: that time. They got Jerck McKinnon when the forty nine 613 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 1: ers got rid of him for not much money and 614 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 1: he's played a pretty big role. And Isaiah pa Jaco, 615 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 1: who they got in the seventh round, who might be 616 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 1: the hardest runner in the league. I think Sean McVeigh 617 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 1: is no different than the majority of coaches, gms, etc. 618 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 1: I do not think he's alone. I think it's kind 619 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 1: of the universal thinking, right, that's just it's not necessary. 620 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 1: You don't if you want to own nice cars, own 621 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 1: nice cars. But you don't unless you're talking classic cars. 622 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 1: For the most part, the moment you drove to drive 623 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 1: a car off the lot, it's going to lose value. 624 00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 1: You invest in real estate, in stocks if you want, 625 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 1: or why on your money like nice cars. You want 626 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 1: to drive a nice car and you have the money, Okay, 627 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 1: but you know that's a losing proposition in terms of value. 628 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 1: Same with boats. A lot of people like boats. I 629 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 1: like boats go out in the lake, whatever go in 630 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: the ocean, whatever. You know, the moment you buy the boat, 631 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 1: the value usually dips. I'm not talking the yachts. I'm 632 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 1: just talking ski boats, fishing boats. Okay, big fan of 633 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 1: the Podkeeap with a good work originally from Minnie God. 634 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 1: We got a ton of Minnesota people lived in Scottsdale 635 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 1: for five years. Love it here. I'll be at Morgan 636 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 1: Walling later this month. I'll be there too next Wednesday, 637 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 1: I think is when we're going. I've watched the first 638 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 1: two episodes of The Quarterback, and the juxtaposition of Mahomes 639 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 1: and Cousin shows Mahomes has a dog in him that 640 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 1: Kurt doesn't. Can a team win a Super Bowl in 641 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 1: this era when your quarterback isn't a dog, I'm not 642 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 1: just saying that he all caps dawg dog. Also, it's 643 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 1: pretty apparent Kirk wasn't as comfortable in O'Connell's offense initially. 644 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 1: Do you think Kirk can make big strides in your 645 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 1: two and lead the Vikings on a deep playoff run? 646 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 1: And we got what I think is the most fascinating 647 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 1: part of this docu series is Mahomes is one of 648 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 1: the greatest quarterbacks of all time and honestly, going to 649 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 1: go down, probably is one of the great athletes of 650 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 1: all time. Mariota is your classic. Turns out he was 651 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,719 Speaker 1: pretty overrated, not accurate enough, but great guy, easy to 652 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 1: root for. I find Mariota. I remember Carr got hurt 653 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago on a Thursday night game 654 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 1: against the Chargers. He pulled his growing when he was 655 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 1: like rolling out and Mariota played the rest of the game, 656 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 1: and everybody on the Titans, from Luwan to all the players, 657 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 1: we're tweeting how awesome it was and how they were 658 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 1: rooting them on, like people love Mariota. One thing when 659 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:44,800 Speaker 1: you watch Cousins, who I think is a solid player, 660 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,799 Speaker 1: you know, is he the type guy that every dude 661 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 1: on the team's gonna left to me? Mahomes, it's not 662 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 1: even just the dog I think the most underrated attribute 663 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 1: and I try to do this, but I forget often 664 00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:00,200 Speaker 1: when it comes to a quarterback, it's just toughness, Like 665 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,280 Speaker 1: are you the toughest motherfucker on the field. I listened 666 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 1: to this podcast the other day with Ed Milett with 667 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 1: Troy Aikman. Troy, this guy Aikman said on the podcast 668 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 1: he hasn't taken a warm shower in four and a 669 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,799 Speaker 1: half months. Aikman is just a health nut. But one 670 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 1: thing he talked about, and I remember growing up, I 671 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:20,319 Speaker 1: hated him as a player because I was a big 672 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 1: Niner fan, the Cowboys right when I started watching sports, 673 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 1: you know, early nineties, they were beating the forty nine 674 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 1: ers all the time. And some of these visuals still, 675 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 1: I mean, Troy just getting destroyed and getting back up. 676 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 1: And when you think of far when you think of 677 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 1: Brady even Manning, like toughness is a huge attribute. And 678 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 1: last year and really his entire career, right when he 679 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 1: got his knee dislocated. But last year that scene when 680 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 1: he gets rolled up on or rolls up on the 681 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 1: defender and it's just telling him like, under no circumstances, 682 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,720 Speaker 1: am I coming out of this game? It ain't happening, 683 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 1: And he's like, you're coming out right, I mean, and 684 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:04,280 Speaker 1: he's come on, Patrick, this whole building, Arrowhead Stadium. My career, 685 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 1: every coach and player career, including Kelsey, they're on year back. 686 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 1: We got to be very careful about this, but you 687 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,719 Speaker 1: love it. If I was a Chiefs fan, for as 688 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 1: cool as the Super Bowls are, and they are awesome, right, 689 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:19,800 Speaker 1: but ultimately once you win, the Super Bowl kind of 690 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 1: ends and you realize you're kind of sad. Big Football's over. 691 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,400 Speaker 1: The most fun of being a sports fan is the 692 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 1: games and the journey, even if you're gonna win championships. Right, 693 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 1: the most fun if you were a Yankees fan in 694 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:35,279 Speaker 1: the late nineties, wasn't the final pitch. It was the 695 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 1: playoff series, right, It was winning the divisions. It was 696 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 1: just kicking everyone's ass. It's those moments. Right, I'm a 697 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 1: Warriors fan. Really, I'm a Curry Clay Draymond fan. The 698 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:49,359 Speaker 1: cool moments aren't them ultimately winning the championship, like when 699 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 1: the final buzzer hits. It's the moment when Curry goes 700 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 1: for forty five against Boston. It's when they end Darryl Moury, 701 00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:01,239 Speaker 1: Chris paul In, James Harden's entire legacy. It's the moments. 702 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 1: And in football, whether it's an incredible pass by Mahomes 703 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 1: and the highlights you sometimes you forget when you watch 704 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 1: him play. He's even better than I think sometimes we 705 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 1: talk about and I think that's anytime you get the 706 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 1: best player. They're even a little better than I think 707 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,720 Speaker 1: the hype right like ultimately Steph Curry or Tiger Woods 708 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 1: in his prime or you know whoever, right are better 709 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 1: than the way we actually talk about him. And I 710 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 1: think that's Patrick Mahomes. But his toughness, because he's got 711 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 1: he's the total package. Like if you're just building a 712 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 1: quarterback from scratch, you go six three sixty four, very 713 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:41,239 Speaker 1: very football smart like elite football IQ, good guy, high level, 714 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:46,839 Speaker 1: high character guy, zero risks, very focused, very driven, and 715 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 1: the competitive dog has to be like Michael Jordan level. 716 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 1: And think about the best quarterback I can just speak 717 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:56,840 Speaker 1: for my lifetime who just feel like they just refuse 718 00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:00,799 Speaker 1: to be denied. I would say Tom the charge, and 719 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 1: it feels like Patrick is right on that level. Honestly, 720 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,480 Speaker 1: I think he was physically limited. But I thought Drew 721 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:10,280 Speaker 1: Brees is drive and desire and competitive neatness was elite. 722 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,879 Speaker 1: But I think Drew Brees is competitiveness. And I've talked 723 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,360 Speaker 1: about this before and we've argued over like Aaron Rodgers 724 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 1: Drew Brees, I think Aaron Rodgers is a better player. 725 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 1: I think Drew's wiring and competitiveness is better than Aaron 726 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:24,719 Speaker 1: And again we're nitpicking here, but this is what you 727 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,720 Speaker 1: do with the top. Right. I'm not saying Aaron Rodgers 728 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 1: is James Harden competitiveness, but it feels like Drew's was elite, 729 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:36,840 Speaker 1: Peyton's was elite. Philip Rivers, you know, again not as talented, 730 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 1: not as gifted as some of these guys, but that 731 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:45,360 Speaker 1: to me is a make or break your competitiveness and 732 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:49,399 Speaker 1: the dog because if you don't have that, you don't 733 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,799 Speaker 1: have a chance to win at the highest level. Bro 734 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,560 Speaker 1: has it, Josh Allen has it. I think we're gonna 735 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 1: learn about Trevor Lawrence and Herbert Lamar. I think there's 736 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,879 Speaker 1: some question mark. It was just the money situation, right, 737 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:06,279 Speaker 1: you look at the NFC. I think Dak's really competitive, 738 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,759 Speaker 1: but like, does he have that high end where he's 739 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:12,360 Speaker 1: just gonna refuse to be denied or does he just 740 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:16,359 Speaker 1: have some physical limitations as a passer where he's gonna 741 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,759 Speaker 1: throw some interceptions. You know, that's what makes sports so 742 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,319 Speaker 1: fun to talk about some of these answers. We can 743 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,319 Speaker 1: all argue till we're blue in the face and we 744 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:28,359 Speaker 1: don't get a tangible. You know, That's what's cool about Mahomes, right, 745 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:32,720 Speaker 1: he just shows up, got it all. He's just MVP 746 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 1: Super Bowls, legendary performances, limping around, gemping around, making plays. 747 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:43,239 Speaker 1: It might be my favorite player as a kid. My 748 00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,120 Speaker 1: favorite player, like probably a lot of people, was far 749 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 1: just because he was the tough, fun, the touchdowns, the 750 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,279 Speaker 1: whole thing. It was just God, this guy, That's why 751 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,080 Speaker 1: I want to watch play football. I think clearly for 752 00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,080 Speaker 1: me right now is Mahomes. I'm as big of a 753 00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,520 Speaker 1: Niner fan as there is. Haven't missed a game in 754 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:05,359 Speaker 1: fifteen plus years. I'm curious, are we on the eve 755 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,239 Speaker 1: of train as we are on the eve of training camp, 756 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,960 Speaker 1: given the rosters, given the roster losses and the roster 757 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:15,280 Speaker 1: additions through free agency in the draft, are the Niners 758 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 1: a net positive or net negative this offseason? Obviously love 759 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,560 Speaker 1: the hard Grave signing and I love jayyr Brown draft pick, 760 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,560 Speaker 1: but objectively feel like we've lost a lot of pieces, 761 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:31,040 Speaker 1: Jimmy Ward, even McGlinchey, who isn't my favorite Niner of 762 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,280 Speaker 1: the whole time. I hope not, but he's a staple 763 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,400 Speaker 1: of the offense for the last five years. Love to 764 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:43,120 Speaker 1: hear your thoughts on it, well, Jimmy Ward. I think 765 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:44,919 Speaker 1: cool part of the NFL are. There are so many 766 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,759 Speaker 1: stories like him. Guys who are relatively high picks. He 767 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,880 Speaker 1: was a pick in the twenties, who get to a team, 768 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,240 Speaker 1: have a little success, then kind of fall off a cliff, 769 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,640 Speaker 1: but just are able to survive and then just turn 770 00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,200 Speaker 1: their career into being one of the stalwarts on a franchise, 771 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 1: high level leaders, really good player. I love Jimmy Ward 772 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:04,520 Speaker 1: told the buddy on the Texans like a year ago, 773 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:06,399 Speaker 1: he's going to be a free agent. I'd be all 774 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,719 Speaker 1: over this guy. Turns out Demiko ended up going there, 775 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,000 Speaker 1: and I'm appreciate Jimmy's on the Texas. Jimmy's a stud. 776 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:16,080 Speaker 1: Love Jimmy Ward. To me mcglinchy. While he is a 777 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:19,120 Speaker 1: staple because he was a starter, he's a very replaceable starter. 778 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:20,879 Speaker 1: The thing with Jimmy Ward is he kind of started 779 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,600 Speaker 1: getting phased out by other players. So to me, Jimmy 780 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,719 Speaker 1: on the field isn't as big of a loss as 781 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,239 Speaker 1: you know, as McGlinchey that they just have to do 782 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 1: a brand new player there. Jimmy had already kind of 783 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,280 Speaker 1: been replaced, had been in and out of the lineup 784 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:39,680 Speaker 1: to me. Mcglinchy is they've drafted other guys and if 785 00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:41,480 Speaker 1: you look at mcglinch's contract, you go, how do you 786 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,680 Speaker 1: replace the guy that got fifty million? When you watch 787 00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:45,840 Speaker 1: the games, you go, yeah, this is a replaceable player. 788 00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,440 Speaker 1: Treent Williams not replaceable. Mike mcglinche should be. Now. Just 789 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 1: because you think he's a replaceable player doesn't mean you 790 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 1: do it right. You got to find a tackle. We'll 791 00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,600 Speaker 1: figure it out during training camp. I think they have 792 00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:01,480 Speaker 1: a pretty good idea who's gonna be. But until you 793 00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,279 Speaker 1: put the pads on, you know you have a competition. 794 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,680 Speaker 1: Let it play out. Uh, the guy's got to hold 795 00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,120 Speaker 1: the edge. And I think the hardest part about replacing 796 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:14,520 Speaker 1: edge guys on offense your tackles at either position is 797 00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,719 Speaker 1: every team now has sweet edd dressers. Every team does. 798 00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,680 Speaker 1: And the forty nine ers this year play the NFC East. 799 00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,880 Speaker 1: You're getting the Eagles again, obviously the Cowboys. You know, 800 00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,640 Speaker 1: the Giants invested in Caveon. Let's say he takes a step. 801 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:32,560 Speaker 1: We know Washington has really good edge defenders. The Rams 802 00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,400 Speaker 1: could can put Aaron Donald out there when need be. 803 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:40,239 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure the other division you play is the 804 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:44,840 Speaker 1: AFC North, So the Ravens always have a good pass rush. TJ. 805 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:48,319 Speaker 1: Watt last time I checked, pretty good player. If I 806 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:50,439 Speaker 1: was the Cleveland Browns, I would say, I'm not gonna 807 00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,960 Speaker 1: put Miles Garrett over Trent Williams that much. I'm going 808 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:56,200 Speaker 1: to put him over my right tackle. Hey, last question. 809 00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:00,120 Speaker 1: I'm messaging you from my wife's Instagram. Big fan of 810 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:04,600 Speaker 1: the show. Been listening since right before the draft and 811 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,680 Speaker 1: looking forward to hearing your takes during the season. What 812 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,000 Speaker 1: do you think is the ultimate reason for the cowboys 813 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:13,480 Speaker 1: last lack of success in the postseason over the past 814 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,600 Speaker 1: twenty five years. I'm twenty eight years old and have 815 00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,480 Speaker 1: been a lifelong Cowboys fan, and they haven't even been 816 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,759 Speaker 1: to a conference title game in my lifetime. You know, 817 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,200 Speaker 1: it's crazy that there's forty nine ers, for example, no 818 00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,480 Speaker 1: franchise quarterback, three of them in the last four years. 819 00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,480 Speaker 1: It would be easy to blame Jerry, but the fact 820 00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,880 Speaker 1: is the Cowboys regularly win twelve plus games and are 821 00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,200 Speaker 1: one of the more consistent good franchise in the league. 822 00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,600 Speaker 1: Clearly Jerry in the front office do a good job. 823 00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,520 Speaker 1: Totally agree Dak is too good to get rid of, 824 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:44,759 Speaker 1: but not good enough to carry a team. Do you 825 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,919 Speaker 1: consider them a successful franchise for consistently feeling a good 826 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,120 Speaker 1: team or are they more defined by their lack of 827 00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:54,759 Speaker 1: postseason success. I definitely view them as successful franchise. They 828 00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,600 Speaker 1: to me have like a Yankees vibe of the last 829 00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:02,520 Speaker 1: probably decade. They win a lot. They're the biggest brand 830 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,120 Speaker 1: in the league, but they don't feel that close to 831 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:08,759 Speaker 1: winning a title. But they are very, very important to 832 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,879 Speaker 1: the landscape of the business, and they are a legitimate 833 00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,880 Speaker 1: operation when you watch them in the regular season. I 834 00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,560 Speaker 1: was thinking about this the other day the forty nine 835 00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,600 Speaker 1: Ers Cowboy game in the second round. The Cowboys showed 836 00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:22,880 Speaker 1: up two years ago. They played two years in a 837 00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,480 Speaker 1: row in the playoffs. I thought the Niners two years ago, 838 00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:27,920 Speaker 1: even though the game came down to that final drive. 839 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,680 Speaker 1: Remember when Dak took off and couldn't spike the ball 840 00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:32,480 Speaker 1: or whatever in time in the ending. They got made 841 00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,800 Speaker 1: fun of him that game when you rewatch it is 842 00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,560 Speaker 1: a Jimmy Garoppolo pick six from not being that close. 843 00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:41,040 Speaker 1: But the Niners outclassed them, but more importantly, out physical. 844 00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:43,600 Speaker 1: Niners are one of the more physical teams in the league. 845 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,880 Speaker 1: I thought this year. In that game, the Cowboys defense 846 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:51,160 Speaker 1: was championship level. Like that Cowboys defense was we can 847 00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:54,839 Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl. We are good enough to win 848 00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:59,399 Speaker 1: multiple the conference championship game and the Super Bowl. They 849 00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,400 Speaker 1: lost that game. And if they would have got the Eagles, 850 00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:05,839 Speaker 1: while they would have been underdogs, you get comfortable enough 851 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,759 Speaker 1: playing an opponent in your division. The Cowboys wouldn't have 852 00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:10,759 Speaker 1: been intimidated in that game. I'm not saying they're gonna win, 853 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:15,880 Speaker 1: but the problem was Dak Prescott through two picks in 854 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:20,080 Speaker 1: that playoff game. Like their offense is talented enough skill wise, 855 00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:23,560 Speaker 1: their defense is clearly good enough with the defensive coach. 856 00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:28,680 Speaker 1: To me, the question is this year offensive schematics with 857 00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:32,240 Speaker 1: Schottenheimer and McCarthy, how are they are they out scheming 858 00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:36,760 Speaker 1: people on offense? And the quarterback is he throwing picks NonStop? 859 00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,200 Speaker 1: Because if Dak Prescott's gonna throw pis in the playoffs, 860 00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:41,920 Speaker 1: you're gonna lose. In that game against the Tampa Bay 861 00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,439 Speaker 1: Buccaneers in the first round, I win an football was fun. 862 00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:48,040 Speaker 1: Tim Bay sucked man. That was a bad football team, 863 00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:49,839 Speaker 1: and he destroyed him. That's what a good team does. 864 00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,480 Speaker 1: When the Cowboys are a good team. But the only 865 00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,719 Speaker 1: way to me is if you're in the conference championship game, 866 00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:57,880 Speaker 1: you can win the super Bowl. Right to me, if 867 00:45:57,880 --> 00:45:59,399 Speaker 1: you're in the final four, you can win the super Bowl, 868 00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,400 Speaker 1: proven time and time again. Think about some all the 869 00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,279 Speaker 1: last Super Bowls. Right, the Bengals easily could have won, 870 00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:09,080 Speaker 1: The Chiefs could have won that year. Last year, the 871 00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:10,759 Speaker 1: forty nine Ers could have won the Super Bowl. The 872 00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,520 Speaker 1: Eagles could have won the Super Bowl. You get to 873 00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:15,960 Speaker 1: the final four, you're a super Bowl level. If you 874 00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:19,520 Speaker 1: can't win that second round game, you got some as 875 00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,600 Speaker 1: usually flawed the Giants last year not even remotely talented enough. 876 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,960 Speaker 1: The Jags might still be a year or two away. 877 00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,160 Speaker 1: Cowboys like they should be right there, and they were. 878 00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:34,640 Speaker 1: Game was close. Quarterback picks, interceptions can't happen, and it did, 879 00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,960 Speaker 1: and it killed him losing to brock Purty. You can't 880 00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:43,040 Speaker 1: get out played by brock Purty. That's an excuse. McCarthy's proven, 881 00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,040 Speaker 1: like he's been to a lot of conference championship games, 882 00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:47,480 Speaker 1: he's won the playoff games. I know he's had rogers, 883 00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:49,040 Speaker 1: but he's proven to be a head coach that can win. 884 00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,359 Speaker 1: I would say Dak might beer biggest question mark, who's 885 00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:53,920 Speaker 1: a good player and to me represents your franchise, high 886 00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:57,680 Speaker 1: level guy, impressive, we like talking about him. Is something missing? 887 00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,960 Speaker 1: It would say something missing. Clearly smart enough, Clearly he's 888 00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:05,640 Speaker 1: you know he can, He's good enough in theory. But 889 00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,080 Speaker 1: yet when the game happens, when it really matters, Stids, 890 00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:12,600 Speaker 1: the ball lands in the other team's hands consistently. It 891 00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:14,560 Speaker 1: happened two years ago, and it happened again this year, 892 00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,120 Speaker 1: and until he cleans that up like Jalen Hurts cleaned 893 00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,200 Speaker 1: that up and they rolled right to the Super Bowl, 894 00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,560 Speaker 1: and it looked like they were rolling right to a championship. 895 00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:23,840 Speaker 1: I don't even need him to play as good as Jalen, 896 00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,040 Speaker 1: but you can't do what you did last year. Appreciate 897 00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,879 Speaker 1: everyone listening, Have a great weekend. Talk to everyone soon. 898 00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:51,960 Speaker 1: The volume