Speaker 1: Are you leaving? I you wanna way back home? Either way,
Speaker 1: we want to be there.
Speaker 2: Doesn't matter how much baggage you claim and give us
Speaker 2: time and a terminol and gay.
Speaker 1: We want to send you off in style.
Speaker 3: Do you wanna welcome you back home?
Speaker 1: Tell us all about it?
Speaker 3: We scared her? Was it fine?
Speaker 2: Malborn?
Speaker 3: Do you need to ride? Do you need to ride?
Speaker 1: Do you need to ride?
Speaker 3: Do you need to ride? Do you need to ride?
Speaker 1: Do you need to.
Speaker 4: Ride with Karen and Chris.
Speaker 1: Welcome to Do you need a ride?
Speaker 3: This is Chris Fairbanks and this is Karen Kilgara.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, you should always clear your throat lightly before introduce.
Speaker 1: That was smooth.
Speaker 2: You know, they say on NPR, all terry gross, all
Speaker 2: those people are constantly clearing their throats.
Speaker 3: That's the secret.
Speaker 1: I bet it is. I had to go to a
Speaker 1: doctor once I l la la la la la meat
Speaker 1: meat potatoes, meat potatoes, Yellow York.
Speaker 3: I need New York.
Speaker 1: I've never lived in New York. I had to go
Speaker 1: to a doctor because I was when I was a kid,
Speaker 1: like ten years old, I was constantly clearing my throat.
Speaker 1: It was like a problem, like I was getting in
Speaker 1: trouble at school, constantly clearing my throat, and then he
Speaker 1: said I was drinking way too much milk. Oh, isn't
Speaker 1: that curious? I was asked to lay off on.
Speaker 3: The milk, and that worked. It cured you.
Speaker 1: Uh, yeah, it was just a real milkhat about a
Speaker 1: gallon a day.
Speaker 2: Do you know that Hannah Criton, who's a producer for
Speaker 2: the Exactly right Now works, she drank so much milk.
Speaker 3: I think she told me that it was in college.
Speaker 2: I could be wrong, but her friend's the nickname she
Speaker 2: has with her friends' is big Milk, which when she
Speaker 2: told me that that's one of my favorites. Well, first
Speaker 2: of all, I was thinking that doctor was going to
Speaker 2: say you had like OCD or something, because you know
Speaker 2: that sometimes that's a nervous habit.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know why, because in life, my mom
Speaker 1: was a vegetarian and we had no milk. But when
Speaker 1: I was a kid, those formative bone years, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's a I don't know, I don't know how what
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do. That's why I haven't had a kid.
Speaker 1: The big milk debate, Yes, it's a real problem. Do
Speaker 1: I want yeah give my kid oat milk? Or do
Speaker 1: I want a bones to be strong or is it
Speaker 1: rumor if.
Speaker 2: You give it oak milk, oat not oak milk. I'm
Speaker 2: going to give my kid the milk of acorns from
Speaker 2: oak trees.
Speaker 1: I think they'll have it by then pine milk.
Speaker 2: The child is crying while eating their cereal. You're just like,
Speaker 2: finish it. It's good for you.
Speaker 3: It's really an old tree.
Speaker 1: It's just a cup of sap.
Speaker 3: Drink the oak milk.
Speaker 2: That'd be a really funny sketch, like fast forwarding to
Speaker 2: like the crazy food trends and how bad they're going
Speaker 2: to get for people in the future.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I've seen it's a premise for so
Speaker 1: much any stand ups now, like what's next with all
Speaker 1: this milk? And I you know, I never finished those videos,
Speaker 1: but I do browse them, and.
Speaker 2: Then you start watching the commercial and you're like, I
Speaker 2: should buy They always pond that pan looks really amazing.
Speaker 1: I am, Yeah, I am, I am. I am someone
Speaker 1: that will order things if I if I like the commercial.
Speaker 1: I'm so weak. I'm just weak.
Speaker 2: Ken Well, they you know what, here's the thing. First
Speaker 2: of all, they have picked those things for you based
Speaker 2: on what you look at on your computer, so I
Speaker 2: bet you you're getting tiny house furniture, tiny you know,
Speaker 2: miniature furniture and shit, right, like they know you, I
Speaker 2: your computer, But explain.
Speaker 1: To me why with my phone off when I just
Speaker 1: am having a conversation about something, I then get ads.
Speaker 2: For it, ex Alexa, Siri. We're being listened to constantly.
Speaker 2: It's your friend's phone, it's other things. It's scared as fuck.
Speaker 1: It is scary. And there's a documentary on that. I
Speaker 1: can't remember what it was. There was a guy giving
Speaker 1: US press conference saying, of course your phones aren't listening
Speaker 1: to you when they're off, and they all laugh together
Speaker 1: and I'm like, no, they are. They have to be
Speaker 1: otherwise how would I be getting all these dollhouse ads.
Speaker 3: Well, also, you're not, I am you are, we know
Speaker 3: you are.
Speaker 1: That's a bad example.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's your point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but also even if your phone, even if you're
Speaker 2: not I mean you're powered all the way down, or
Speaker 2: you just saying you don't have Siri or Alexa on,
Speaker 2: because they also are doing it based on you know,
Speaker 2: that's the whole cookies thing, where you're accepting or declining cookies,
Speaker 2: that's them tracking you for marketing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they give it such an adorable name. We
Speaker 1: all love cookies it.
Speaker 3: Every time I go, I'll have three cookies. So that's
Speaker 3: not what they're.
Speaker 1: Are these fresh baked tracking of all my interests.
Speaker 3: You know what's weird.
Speaker 2: My interest is chocolate chips.
Speaker 3: It so strange.
Speaker 1: Mine muppets and trash cans. Oh wait, he just liked garbage.
Speaker 1: It's been a while, it's been a while. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I thought Oscar the Grouch liked cookies that were thrown away.
Speaker 3: Only moldy cookies.
Speaker 1: Can wait?
Speaker 2: Can I just tell you I'll be honest, because we've
Speaker 2: stumbled upon this topic. Yes, right now, I'm in a
Speaker 2: vacation home. Somebody brought me because I'm up by my
Speaker 2: I'm up in Paz.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it didn't look like your couch.
Speaker 3: No, this is not my case.
Speaker 1: It's a vacation couch.
Speaker 3: It's a vacation couch.
Speaker 2: Somebody brought like as a fun snacky gift to bring
Speaker 2: out here a bag of uh it's some They're called
Speaker 2: their Hawaiian brand cookie and their short bread cookies shaped
Speaker 2: like pineapples with little chocolate chips in them.
Speaker 3: And I didn't know they were here.
Speaker 2: It's not like they didn't walk in and go, he's
Speaker 2: cookie time or whatever. They just brought them and put
Speaker 2: them into the pantry and left without saying anything. I
Speaker 2: think it was my friend Janet and I stumbled upon them,
Speaker 2: and they're so good. I've eaten like half the bag.
Speaker 2: Do you enjoy a short bread cookie or a short bread?
Speaker 1: I think I do anything that isn't all the way sweet.
Speaker 1: It's like it's kind of semi sweet, wouldn't you say,
Speaker 1: even though it's called a sugar cookie.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's very if there's anything going on with a
Speaker 2: short bread, it's almost a little tangy. Yeah, So it
Speaker 2: has like that it's good and you know, it's buttery
Speaker 2: and everything, but it also has like a good kind
Speaker 2: of a little tang in.
Speaker 1: There is Is it pineapple flavored?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: Just shaped?
Speaker 1: Huh. I think that she was trying to invite you
Speaker 1: to a threesome. Now, I know that seems like it's
Speaker 1: out a left field, but I was wearing a pineapple
Speaker 1: hat and this couple. I think I've talked about this
Speaker 1: probably I have. If anything sounds like I've said it before,
Speaker 1: it's of course to you on our podcast. Otherwise I'm
Speaker 1: just talking to my.
Speaker 3: But also, this doesn't sound familiar, so I'd love to
Speaker 3: hear it.
Speaker 1: I there was just a little embroidered pineapple on this hat.
Speaker 1: I think it was a promo hat for some pineapple
Speaker 1: based seltzer. I was drinking and these people said, oh,
Speaker 1: I are so you're a swinger, and I'm like, what
Speaker 1: are you talking about? Well, the pineapple on your hat.
Speaker 1: Apparently in the old days, people would hang a pineapple
Speaker 1: on their porch to let people know that it was
Speaker 1: a swinging party or they were down to swing. A
Speaker 1: lot of people have confirmed this. It was some simple googling.
Speaker 1: We'll find out yet one. Once again, I'm not just
Speaker 1: talking out of my ass. But they just said, oh,
Speaker 1: it doesn't hurt ask and I wanted to say, no,
Speaker 1: it did, though it hurt my feelings. You thought you
Speaker 1: to you again? Yeah, I mean it's never The swinging
Speaker 1: people are never who you want them to be. You know,
Speaker 1: people just coming out of a bush somewhere in.
Speaker 3: A park, but still a couple.
Speaker 2: They're still wearing like down vests.
Speaker 1: They definitely wearing flannel.
Speaker 3: Yes, was that a comedy show situation?
Speaker 1: Uh? Where was that? It had to be? Actually, no,
Speaker 1: I would never wear that hat. It's my golfing hat.
Speaker 1: I guess it was while golfing they wanted some daytime
Speaker 1: threesome out on the links at two p I mean,
Speaker 1: come onzen, a brazen.
Speaker 3: Off in the trees.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was just up there milk in a tree
Speaker 1: for sap and then shim me down and ask me
Speaker 1: if I wanted to kick it with him and his spouse?
Speaker 1: How dare you? Sir?
Speaker 2: Also, I feel like that trend, which I think in
Speaker 2: some ways is very good that people aren't so repressed anymore.
Speaker 2: Like this isn't like you're not going to then have
Speaker 2: those people arrested and prosecuted.
Speaker 1: I said, how flattering, and it made me smile, And
Speaker 1: then it wasn't until later that I kind of cried
Speaker 1: in my car. It was I didn't shame them in
Speaker 1: any way. Of course I wouldn't do that, but I
Speaker 1: do think it is odd and inappropriate. It's like you
Speaker 1: don't know me at all, and you're just and you
Speaker 1: were taking this swing that is so overtly like such
Speaker 1: a stretch.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like how would that is?
Speaker 2: That?
Speaker 3: Are we truly.
Speaker 2: Supposed to believe? You wear a pineapple insignia to silently
Speaker 2: let other swingers know that you're down to be there,
Speaker 2: Lucky Pierre, I.
Speaker 1: One hundred percent like you did. When I brought it up,
Speaker 1: thought he was just making it up. And then I
Speaker 1: asked around and people said, oh, yeah, the old pineapple orgy. No, yeah,
Speaker 1: hang it, it has to be hung upside down on
Speaker 1: the porch. Apparently what I know and people have these things.
Speaker 1: I got invited to a lobster cookout in a backyard
Speaker 1: in Venice. My my, my sweet neighbor Jenna invited me
Speaker 1: because she knew I would be interested in free lobster.
Speaker 1: And after dinner there was like people started leaving urgently
Speaker 1: about other people, and they asked They asked me if I,
Speaker 1: as they were laying down tarps, if I was staying
Speaker 1: for phase two of the party, which I started to
Speaker 1: gather was some sort of a swinger event, and I,
Speaker 1: you know, I looked around first, and then I decided no,
Speaker 1: I would not. I really enjoyed the shellfish, but I
Speaker 1: do have to leave, and they didn't want me to
Speaker 1: stay because I didn't bring a partner. You have to
Speaker 1: come as a tuso. I guess at a lot of
Speaker 1: these pineapple or lobster based orgies, I'm not making that
Speaker 1: up at all. It was later I found out that's
Speaker 1: why they were laying down tarps, so it was outdoor.
Speaker 2: The word tarp, it's just the most like mechanical way
Speaker 2: to It's just like you go to a doctor if
Speaker 2: you're going to be that.
Speaker 1: Or lay out some cots at least mattresses. You guys
Speaker 1: are all gonna fuck on tarps.
Speaker 3: Tarps. It's horrifying.
Speaker 2: It's like you've been abandoned in a campsite and so
Speaker 2: you're gonna make the best of it and have sex
Speaker 2: with some weirdo stringer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, why tarps? Well, we've found out that bodily fluid,
Speaker 1: all the many types will kill the grass. We got
Speaker 1: to lay down these tarts, these tarts. I was kind
Speaker 1: of traumatized, but I find it now very funny and
Speaker 1: they're nice people. If anyone at that party is listening,
Speaker 1: what a great dinner it was, machine.
Speaker 2: And see your balls, I just think, well, that's that's
Speaker 2: a huge compliment that two different times you've been propositioned
Speaker 2: and we can use that word it applies here.
Speaker 3: Yeah a musician.
Speaker 1: I think it's the only two times they just really
Speaker 1: stick out in my head.
Speaker 3: Do you think your neighbor.
Speaker 2: Jenna was interested in being your partner in that situation.
Speaker 1: No, Now, Jenna was like a sister figure. And I
Speaker 1: went with a group of sister figure type ladies. And
Speaker 1: I don't think that any of them. I mean you'd
Speaker 1: have to ask them privately, but I don't think there
Speaker 1: was any sexual foul play afoot. We went as loved one.
Speaker 1: I mean I got to call Jenna.
Speaker 2: Actually, you got to call an ask. I would just
Speaker 2: text her first, real quick and just say quick, Q.
Speaker 1: Hey at that lobster fest, were you trying to fuck
Speaker 1: me with your friends?
Speaker 3: It's for a podcast.
Speaker 2: Yes, if you could get back to me as soon
Speaker 2: as possible.
Speaker 1: We're actually recording right now. Please please let me know.
Speaker 2: So if you're on the tarp now, which is what
Speaker 2: did you know? They call it being on the tarp
Speaker 2: when the orgy is taking place.
Speaker 1: Oh that's traditional. See, I thought these people were being strange.
Speaker 1: It's normal to lay down tarps and do it outside.
Speaker 2: Wait, have you I've seen a documentary about swingers.
Speaker 1: I mean Real Sex Volumes one through thirty.
Speaker 2: There's an actual dedicated documentary that we watched. I think
Speaker 2: it was like the mid two thousands, from what I
Speaker 2: can gather, recollect, and it is unbelievable. They kind of
Speaker 2: just like follow out along these people who and they're
Speaker 2: in Orange County and they're like full that's their full
Speaker 2: on lifestyle. It's like some people like to go in
Speaker 2: an RV and drive to Baja California go fishing.
Speaker 3: These people like to fuck.
Speaker 2: They literally they set out like casse roles on a
Speaker 2: big table.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they eat and socialize.
Speaker 1: That's what this was. Oh and these were rich people
Speaker 1: from from uh from like uh San Diego or something.
Speaker 1: I this apply they were in this documentary. I'm just deciding, Yeah,
Speaker 1: everyone there, that's all orgy aside. I mostly felt like
Speaker 1: I didn't belong to because everyone was so wealthy in
Speaker 1: the house was so beautiful and they were really nice tarps.
Speaker 1: By the way, brand news.
Speaker 2: I bet the going to be a high quality, high
Speaker 2: quality if you start.
Speaker 1: If you yeah, every year annually you buy you know,
Speaker 1: seventy yards a tarp for your sex party, that means
Speaker 1: you're probably doing pretty well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I bet.
Speaker 2: Also, Hey, a lobster feed, like for I understand if
Speaker 2: if like you have two lobsters in addition to all
Speaker 2: the standard burgers and hot dogs, but all all lobsters.
Speaker 1: I with the invite. There was a fee. I think
Speaker 1: I paid twenty bucks to be at this party just
Speaker 1: to help them, and that I understood that. I'm like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't feed one hundred people, and they're were about
Speaker 1: one hundred people there a big which is a testament
Speaker 1: to how large the yard was. And it was in
Speaker 1: Venice Beach near the ocean, Like, there's not a lot
Speaker 1: of huge backyards all of a sudden, Yeah, just big
Speaker 1: old orgy backyard everywhere, liquor flowing out of fountains and
Speaker 1: a lot of close talkers.
Speaker 2: And you know what I would have done if I
Speaker 2: were there, I would have because imagine and I'm sorry
Speaker 2: to be saying this, but it just popped on my head.
Speaker 2: Imagine the smell because I'm not a seafood fan anyway.
Speaker 2: So it's already a little upsetting, and then it's just
Speaker 2: like mass sex.
Speaker 1: Why would you have a big orgy after gorging yourself
Speaker 1: with anything, especially shellfish dipped in butter. Everyone's all looped
Speaker 1: up with butter.
Speaker 3: The butter's everywhere. I wonder if that's why they picked it,
Speaker 3: because it goes.
Speaker 1: Along exactly they Yeah, everyone's wearing a bib and then
Speaker 1: later they lay down tarps for the ground because they're
Speaker 1: all gonna have their big oily butterfarts. Well they.
Speaker 3: Take off your Tommy Bahama blouse.
Speaker 1: And not as there was a lot of Tommy Baha
Speaker 1: mes I bet I kind of wish I'd just stayed
Speaker 1: to watch, not that, but the actual the actual moment
Speaker 1: where people because there was a hot tub there and
Speaker 1: there was like people were starting to get kind of oh,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna get in the hot tub in my
Speaker 1: bra and I was like, well that ladies being raisen what? Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: I would never this was a few years ago. I
Speaker 1: would have said that that. But you know me, now,
Speaker 1: I've adjusted everything to the current trends. Yes, I never
Speaker 1: say that word never, But back in twenty twelve, oh man,
Speaker 1: I would have yelled at in her face. Hell yeah,
Speaker 1: it would have gotten in the hot tub with her
Speaker 1: and screamed it at her.
Speaker 2: I just I feel like especially, and I understand that
Speaker 2: this was pre COVID. It was.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was years ago now, but it's.
Speaker 2: Hard enough to just go to a party and talk
Speaker 2: to strangers and socialize and feel kind of like a
Speaker 2: like feel normal and like you're doing it correctly. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's it's that like making small talk with strangers, because
Speaker 2: like you got invited to a party and you know
Speaker 2: the one person that's throwing the party and no one else. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's hard enough, but then the then also just someone
Speaker 2: whispers in your okay, in two hours, you have to
Speaker 2: also have sex with a majority of these people, right.
Speaker 1: I and also thinking like as I left, I'm like,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, all those friendly people that came up
Speaker 1: and asked me and asked who I was with. I
Speaker 1: thought they were just curious about where my life was
Speaker 1: at romantically, Oh, where's your where's your gut? Oh I
Speaker 1: just came with Jenna and the ladies, and they're like, oh, right,
Speaker 1: fist pound. I'm like what, No, I don't understand why
Speaker 1: everyone's being so weird. They all knew it was going
Speaker 1: to happen. I was like the only one that just
Speaker 1: thought it was a lobster lobster feast and then everyone leaves.
Speaker 1: I kind of wish I had watched, well, I mean
Speaker 1: from the bushes, not in a sexual way, in a
Speaker 1: so it has.
Speaker 3: To be sexual because it's an orgy.
Speaker 1: I mean, what if I put on a safari hat
Speaker 1: and I just am watching animal I'm like, and you.
Speaker 3: Get a clipboard and you take notes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like, very interesting human behavior. I start drawing
Speaker 1: erotic pictures like a courtroom artist.
Speaker 3: But it's there's just a big was the tarp blue?
Speaker 1: That's yeah, just a standard home depot tarp, like the
Speaker 1: kind they used to cover their nearby boats. It's retired
Speaker 1: boat people.
Speaker 2: But how do you go from how do you go
Speaker 2: from that? Where you're just like, let's go down to
Speaker 2: Newport because I've bought us a boat, honey to Let's
Speaker 2: go over to Venice Beach, eat some lobster and then
Speaker 2: take our our middle to late age bodies, disrobe them, yeah,
Speaker 2: and just get down and dirty.
Speaker 1: It's because the proximity to Marina, I mean, the Marina
Speaker 1: del Rey we are it was, I'm it's loose for
Speaker 1: me to even say Venice. We were in Marina del Rey,
Speaker 1: very near where those boats are, and that's just where
Speaker 1: they So it's a boat a sexual boat community.
Speaker 3: Do you think anybody.
Speaker 2: At that orgy or any of the boat orgies do
Speaker 2: you think what if people fall in love and then
Speaker 2: they're like Diane, my wife of forty years gotta go
Speaker 2: because I just are.
Speaker 1: You and I about to do at a rendition of
Speaker 1: the theme to love Boat Love Soon will be soon,
Speaker 1: will be loving you? Ah, here comes another lawsuits. We're
Speaker 1: on a boat and there's more than two. Just oh.
Speaker 1: I can't get over the fact that everyone was full
Speaker 1: of butter and lobster. I'm gonde so gross. It is gross,
Speaker 1: but they were very they were sweet people. I do
Speaker 1: think I have subtly kicked out once. I actually said
Speaker 1: I came alone. Yes, yeah, they don't need a stray?
Speaker 1: Uh may I cut in? Well?
Speaker 3: Also, isn't it?
Speaker 2: It's kind of like, you know, ladies get in free
Speaker 2: type of thing where men are I would imagine, and
Speaker 2: this is sexist on my part. I would imagine men
Speaker 2: are up for orgies when someone's like, hey, guess what's
Speaker 2: happening after the lobster feed and then you're all your
Speaker 2: Tommy Bahama set is like awesome high five.
Speaker 3: But the women are like, excuse me.
Speaker 1: Oh what us? You're not being sexist, that's exactly. None
Speaker 1: of those ladies there probably even had to pay for
Speaker 1: the lobster. I just did because I'm a horny animal
Speaker 1: and they misread me. Just not my crowd.
Speaker 3: I mean a retiree orgy.
Speaker 1: I mean I kept their number. I know the adrett.
Speaker 1: Maybe one day I'll be into it.
Speaker 2: But you should roll by one day with a big
Speaker 2: basket of cheddar Bay biscuits and be like, is lobster
Speaker 2: Is it lobster Fast again?
Speaker 3: I feel like I missed it last time.
Speaker 1: They do have it every year. Now I want to ask,
Speaker 1: Yet I wonder I have so many questions. They wouldn't
Speaker 1: let me ask about it.
Speaker 3: Wait, so who did someone know and not tell you?
Speaker 1: Uh? Yes, all they let you.
Speaker 3: They let it be a reveal to you.
Speaker 1: Yeah. One of our neighbors, Chris, he's he's married to
Speaker 1: one of these late ladies. And he was like, he
Speaker 1: whispered it to me, now's the time they have the orgy.
Speaker 1: And I was like, ah, good one. And he's like, no, seriously,
Speaker 1: that's why they're laying out tarps and everything. And then
Speaker 1: I had had a few drinks, so I just started
Speaker 1: asking around and people were like, oh, you didn't know.
Speaker 1: Oh she must feel awkward. I'm like, why is everyone
Speaker 1: pointing and laughing at me just because I'm not I'm
Speaker 1: the only one here not down to clown?
Speaker 2: Yeah, but of course you feel awkward because that is
Speaker 2: a real rug pull of the highest order, where it's
Speaker 2: just like it's not like they're like, we're going to
Speaker 2: play twister and we're going to get flirty and you're like,
Speaker 2: you know, because I would just be like, kay, buy,
Speaker 2: this is like we're going to aall in, assorted and
Speaker 2: sundry ways have sex with each other in the afternoon
Speaker 2: after a shellfishing.
Speaker 1: At least it was yeah, night had fallen. It was
Speaker 1: at least was not Oh.
Speaker 3: Okay, it wasn't.
Speaker 2: I'm imagining people getting sunburn on their lower back, you know,
Speaker 2: because the butter.
Speaker 3: There's butter everywhere. Just just so everyone knows.
Speaker 2: I think that documentary was called The Lifestyle Swinging in America.
Speaker 3: I believe that's what it's called.
Speaker 1: I looked it up, the Lifestyle Colon Swinging, the Lifestyle.
Speaker 3: The Lifestyle of the Colon, Swinging in America.
Speaker 1: Colon spelled out. It's a very specific documentary about about
Speaker 1: dietary elements of orgies. Anyway, Yeah, so I it's not yeah,
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 3: Not any other orgy invite stories because.
Speaker 1: That's yeah, no, I'm trying to go through the role.
Speaker 1: I mean, no, that's about it. That's about it. That's
Speaker 1: all I've ever.
Speaker 3: I think as a person I.
Speaker 2: Am, I radiate the kind of energy that people know
Speaker 2: don't invite her to this orgy.
Speaker 3: I think that's just you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I kind of have a furrowed brow, always look like
Speaker 2: I'm thinking of something that's bugging me.
Speaker 3: It's not.
Speaker 2: I'm not open. I don't have an open energy. So
Speaker 2: I think that's I'd like to think that's why it
Speaker 2: hasn't happened.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think that I just have kind of this.
Speaker 1: When I'm nervous, I just have this dumb, smiling look
Speaker 1: on my face, and I look like I'm ripe for
Speaker 1: tossing me into the middle of some fucking flesh salad.
Speaker 1: Just a as Howard Kramer once said in a song
Speaker 1: an erotic goulage of Harron Fluids.
Speaker 3: Have you talked to him lately?
Speaker 1: Today? I was going to do his podcast today Who Charted?
Speaker 1: Because I never know of any current chart topping songs,
Speaker 1: and I heard this Harry Styles song from one direction.
Speaker 1: I know nothing about this kid, and I know his
Speaker 1: music's played, and I just thought it was a good
Speaker 1: Justin Bieber song or something. But he has this new
Speaker 1: as it was. I think it's called this new song
Speaker 1: that probably everyone's heard. It is so good and it
Speaker 1: sounds like an indie rock pop song, like it sounds
Speaker 1: like a I would put it in the category of
Speaker 1: like Tame and Paula or something, oh, except super catchy.
Speaker 1: It's so good. And then I went down this wormhole
Speaker 1: of Harry Styles music, him doing all these Peter Gabriel
Speaker 1: covers on Stern and he can mimic Peter Gabriel's voice,
Speaker 1: and I'm like today because of our friend Howard Kramer,
Speaker 1: who I need to apologize. The reason I said I
Speaker 1: want to do it again is I listened to some
Speaker 1: Bruce Springsteen over the weekend and I had it. I
Speaker 1: I was going to tell him I I like Bruce Springsteen.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry about the last time when I said it
Speaker 1: was pedestrian music and it's boring. I offended him. He's
Speaker 1: a Jersey.
Speaker 3: Boy and that Jersey and I hardcore Jersey.
Speaker 1: I had to say, I have a current song, Harry Styles,
Speaker 1: and I have to apologize to you on while recording
Speaker 1: that I I do appreciate Bruce Springsteen. Now I've turned
Speaker 1: over a new leaf.
Speaker 2: And did he did he receive that? Was he welcoming
Speaker 2: to that change?
Speaker 1: Yes, he was, that's He's like, well, I have. I
Speaker 1: actually was just apologizing as a friend, and he said
Speaker 1: we have to be we have to podcast because he
Speaker 1: was very happy that I've I'm I like Bruce Springsteen.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: I also think that we should have Howard on here
Speaker 2: not in the car, because the last time we did
Speaker 2: it and he was in the car, there was this
Speaker 2: very odd energy and it felt like felt it felt odd,
Speaker 2: and I think we need to reapproach and have a reunion.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there is. I mean, we both like having people
Speaker 1: in the car to our backs and you never look
Speaker 1: them in the eye. It's freeing the conversation. You and
Speaker 1: I only catch peripherals of you. And the only time
Speaker 1: I've ever looked at you is when you stop short
Speaker 1: and put your arm in front of me to protect
Speaker 1: me from flying out the windshield, you know, which I
Speaker 1: always appreciate, But you never do. And so when you
Speaker 1: actually know the person and you're used to talking to
Speaker 1: their face and their eyes, it's weird when they're just
Speaker 1: behind you. And maybe that's what was happening with old
Speaker 1: Krame Dog. Yep, Yeah, it's just in the back seat.
Speaker 2: Also, it was so long ago that it feels like
Speaker 2: it feels like we need to circle back with But
Speaker 2: there was a picture I aw something, and I can't
Speaker 2: remember if it was Chip that tweeted it or who,
Speaker 2: but there was a picture of those guys from Austin
Speaker 2: Stories because somebody was doing like a behind the scenes
Speaker 2: Austin Stories thing, and the three of them and maybe
Speaker 2: the two creators. Yeah, yeah, And it made me laugh
Speaker 2: so hard because Poord essentially he looks the same.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he won't age, and Chip looked the same. But
Speaker 1: at the time, I remember when I first saw an
Speaker 1: old picture of him, I was like, oh, he used
Speaker 1: to have a lot more weight on him, like because
Speaker 1: now Chip's like a pretty ripped Oh yeah, he's like
Speaker 1: an n shape person, and back then it was not
Speaker 1: a fitness person. But I saw that picture and they
Speaker 1: both look amazing. Yeah, they both looked just so young.
Speaker 1: I wish there was a picture of my friend. Matt
Speaker 1: Bearden was on that show and lower House was on
Speaker 1: that show. Yeah, but Matt Bearden, even though he was
Speaker 1: in his twenties, already looked like a teenager, like very
Speaker 1: much had that Pemberton quality. Of like just looking very young,
Speaker 1: and to see him now he's just cowboy hat like
Speaker 1: with a beard, like he's a he's he's a radio guy.
Speaker 1: Now he just it doesn't look like a boy child anymore.
Speaker 1: But I love those old pictures because they're all wearing
Speaker 1: giant Janco sized raver jeans.
Speaker 2: Dude, and the shirt in that so you saw the
Speaker 2: picture because the shirt Chip is wearing made me laugh
Speaker 2: out loud. Huge, it's gigantic, it's hozonally striped. Yeah, it
Speaker 2: makes him look borderline beefy, which of course Chip is
Speaker 2: not anyway, but especially Chip is a very modern person,
Speaker 2: and so he's now like a very fitness Like when
Speaker 2: he and I worked on this show when we were
Speaker 2: in Chicago, he would we would end work at like
Speaker 2: seven or eight at night, and I would be so drained.
Speaker 2: I'd be like I can barely drive home. And she'd
Speaker 2: be like, I'm going to the gym every fucking night.
Speaker 2: Where it's like, how are you doing it? And I
Speaker 2: realized later it's because he goes to the gym that
Speaker 2: he has the energy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the whole point.
Speaker 1: And he's one of these dudes that I've I don't
Speaker 1: think he ever I drank, Like if you don't ever
Speaker 1: drink and never in your history. I always would love
Speaker 1: to see a picture of me if I never touched
Speaker 1: anything bad for your body, Like what would I look like?
Speaker 1: It wasn't years of pickling my innerns. I think that
Speaker 1: I had a conversation with them when and they were
Speaker 1: given because it was an MTV show. They were given
Speaker 1: like free levis, and it was during that era of
Speaker 1: like baggy LEVI that was the costuming for the Oh
Speaker 1: we gotta wear these. I don't think they were choosing
Speaker 1: to wear giant early nineties skater.
Speaker 2: Pants, but it is funny looking at that picture. I
Speaker 2: remember when skinny jeans came into fashion, and I was like,
Speaker 2: I'm fucked, because I really appreciated the billowness of nineties
Speaker 2: fashion because then you can kind of be an and
Speaker 2: everyone looked kind of rectangular and it was fine, and
Speaker 2: that was like you didn't have to be have a
Speaker 2: perfect body because no one could see your body anyway
Speaker 2: because that was the style. And suddenly it was like
Speaker 2: your jeans, you might as well just be wearing leggings,
Speaker 2: and you know, everything just started sticking to your body
Speaker 2: and I was like, shit, that sucks.
Speaker 1: And now we're living in because a lot of people
Speaker 1: maybe would disagree with me, But I always think that
Speaker 1: skateboard style has dictated all the fashion in a lot
Speaker 1: of ways. And now you hang out at a skate park,
Speaker 1: it's tight pants over here, it's nineties baggy pant kid
Speaker 1: over here, it's short shorts like Tom Selleck magnem Pi shorts.
Speaker 1: Everyone has their own style. Young people are like comfortable
Speaker 1: in their own skin now and there is not like
Speaker 1: a It used to be me and my friends we
Speaker 1: would just all dressed exactly the same flat brim hat,
Speaker 1: white T shirt, big giant pants, and you would hear
Speaker 1: comments if you didn't wear the uniform yep. And you know,
Speaker 1: it was exactly what was popular and hip hop at
Speaker 1: the time. So I was always like, what came first?
Speaker 1: We're skateboarders dressing like this or hip hop artists dressing
Speaker 1: like that. Like there there was such a synonymous like fashion,
Speaker 1: like a style, and same with everyone just wears different
Speaker 1: things now, is what I'm saying. And I think it's
Speaker 1: good and I.
Speaker 2: Think I agree, and I think it's because the Internet,
Speaker 2: where everybody has access to the having choices. So if
Speaker 2: you are in some small town and everybody dresses like
Speaker 2: skateboard style. But you don't like that, you can find
Speaker 2: another look and be like, oh, but I want to
Speaker 2: dress like the people on the CW's Arrow or whatever
Speaker 2: that was. I was trying to think of what the
Speaker 2: opposite of skateboard style would be.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I was thinking about it a lot
Speaker 1: when watching there's this documentary about the weird people behind
Speaker 1: the Abercrombie and Fitch store and the dictating and the race,
Speaker 1: the racism. It's it's called The Rise and Fall of
Speaker 1: Abercrombie and Fitch. I think, okay, And I was reminded
Speaker 1: of it again when I went to Santa Barbara this
Speaker 1: weekend and performed for I mean, those kids had all
Speaker 1: different fashions, but they were the most beautiful audience of
Speaker 1: exactly twenty five year olds. That it was confronting because
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I'm too old to be on
Speaker 1: the performing for you. All the comics were younger. I yeah,
Speaker 1: there was, and then the just handful of our podcast
Speaker 1: pals that showed up, yo, hell yeah yeah yeah. I'm like,
Speaker 1: there's my people, dinosaurs, there's the two people that have
Speaker 1: had colonoscopies. They get it. But it was beautiful. Everyone
Speaker 1: there was gorgeous. I couldn't, you know. I don't usually
Speaker 1: look the audience in the eye anyway, but I just
Speaker 1: it's so funny that I felt uncomfortable anyway. That documentary
Speaker 1: is worth it.
Speaker 2: I just looked it up. It's Netflix, so I'm absolutely
Speaker 2: gonna watch it.
Speaker 1: It get good. And the Von Dutch one, there's a
Speaker 1: similar one about the crazy world behind the Von Dutch Criminals. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Both are fashion based documentaries that everyone needs to watch.
Speaker 1: If you remember that Abba Crombie.
Speaker 3: And Fitch Guy.
Speaker 2: I am very fascinated by because in my act and
Speaker 2: when I did stand up in the nineties, every once
Speaker 2: in a while, what I would because I was so lazy
Speaker 2: and didn't write solid jokes and really put in the time,
Speaker 2: So sometimes I would just buy a copy of cos
Speaker 2: Cosmopolitan and take it on stage and just basically make
Speaker 2: jokes off of what the shit was on the cover,
Speaker 2: because every month.
Speaker 3: It was insanity.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and there and one of my jokes ended
Speaker 2: up I got bits out of it, obviously, And then
Speaker 2: one of them was something about just like the way
Speaker 2: fashion was become like the the insistence. It was like
Speaker 2: the heroine. She kind of emaciation look that was very
Speaker 2: popular in the nineties where I was like, I feel
Speaker 2: like the people in charge are pedophiles because what else
Speaker 2: explains you?
Speaker 1: And you have seen the documentary, Well.
Speaker 2: But here's what I think is amazing. I was fucking right,
Speaker 2: because it's fucking Jeffrey Epstein was in charge at Victoria's
Speaker 2: Secret and the Limited, like there were actually now known
Speaker 2: pedophiles in charge of who was becoming models, who was popular,
Speaker 2: who was like it is actually very creepy and sinister,
Speaker 2: how that jokey kind of like what the fuck's going on?
Speaker 3: Here is the truth?
Speaker 2: And that guy from Abercrombie and Fitch is he looks
Speaker 2: like a monster and he was the and that was like,
Speaker 2: we don't want fat people wearing our clothes. That's why
Speaker 2: we don't carry a size over, you know, firry jeans
Speaker 2: or whatever. Like, yes he went public with that stage.
Speaker 1: Yes he did. That's in it. And then later in
Speaker 1: the documentary he's like, oh, also black folks and also
Speaker 1: like everyone asked to be ripped and white. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: people are getting fired for not having the quote Abercrombie look,
Speaker 1: which was blue eyed. My parents have Orgies on the weekend,
Speaker 1: holy shit, and and it was. It was also interesting
Speaker 1: just marketing wise, like they used to just blair music
Speaker 1: and there was shutters over the windows and you couldn't
Speaker 1: see inside. They just had They were just recruiting from
Speaker 1: fraternities and sororities solely based on the way they just
Speaker 1: find hot young people. They didn't even want to work retail.
Speaker 1: They're just like, hey, can you hang out outside our
Speaker 1: store one week and it became a job. So they're
Speaker 1: interviewing all these people that are still beautiful forty somethings.
Speaker 1: But if if I related to it because years ago, Daniel,
Speaker 1: Tosh and I had some MTV pilot where we had
Speaker 1: to It was like a prank thing, except we didn't
Speaker 1: know the situation we were going to be put in.
Speaker 1: They're like, you have to teach a class, and we're like,
Speaker 1: oh great, and so we'd rainstorm like being around kids,
Speaker 1: and then we show up and it's an exercise class
Speaker 1: and we had to actually teach an exercise class. It
Speaker 1: was actually a fun time. But one of the things
Speaker 1: was we had to go to an Abercromie and Fitch
Speaker 1: store and apply, and they saw Daniel and immediately We're like, oh,
Speaker 1: you could work here, and then they looked at me
Speaker 1: and and said, oh, you can't. You're a little overweight.
Speaker 1: And I was like what I'm not? I mean, I
Speaker 1: had I was not like ripped, but I it was real.
Speaker 1: They blatant. He said that to me, and it was
Speaker 1: just a manager kid at a story's like, oh, you
Speaker 1: couldn't work here because you're not quite like he He
Speaker 1: danced around the words a little bit, but they basically
Speaker 1: said I was not good looking enough to work at
Speaker 1: Abercrombie and Fitch.
Speaker 3: Jesus.
Speaker 1: But then I looked around at everyone and I'm like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: everyone here is gorgeous and ripped. I'm my feelings aren't
Speaker 1: that hurt. I'm a comedian and Daniel is a handsome,
Speaker 1: tall guy, so I understand why. But they in front
Speaker 1: of us said he can work here. You can't. I
Speaker 1: swear to you it didn't hurt. Maybe it hurt my
Speaker 1: feelings a little bit because I was still like that.
Speaker 1: I was like twenty five, like it was like what.
Speaker 2: But also it's just that kind of thing where it's
Speaker 2: like a trend and it's popular and high schoolers are
Speaker 2: being affected by this trend. So like I remember in
Speaker 2: the mall seeing a boy standing outside the Abercrombie and
Speaker 2: Fitch at the at the Sherman Oaks Galeria, and he's
Speaker 2: like trying to spray people with like Colone or per they.
Speaker 1: Talked about, Yeah, they release it from like fans in
Speaker 1: the store too.
Speaker 2: That cologne smells fucking horrible. And this poor boy looked
Speaker 2: like he wanted to die. He looked so embarrassed, and
Speaker 2: he's like, it's like a mall full of people just
Speaker 2: schlepping around and then he's there, yoked with no shirt on,
Speaker 2: just kind of smiling, but like in he looked like
Speaker 2: he was in pain, and I was like, that is
Speaker 2: super gross.
Speaker 1: Yah, It's like he was probably sound because it's the
Speaker 1: manager of the store told him, Hey, don't spray this
Speaker 1: on anygos. Save your spray for the hotties.
Speaker 2: To me, this is yet another one of those examples
Speaker 2: when people at the time were like, oh, this PC
Speaker 2: thing is gone too far. It's like, no, it fucking has.
Speaker 2: It hasn't even begun to go too far. Because the
Speaker 2: thing that the PC police were fighting was shit where
Speaker 2: that guy who I mean, let's not get into being
Speaker 2: mean about people's faces. He had no right to be
Speaker 2: judging any one's appearance, this man.
Speaker 3: And he was up.
Speaker 2: There being like, no, no fat chicks, no ugos, and
Speaker 2: he's just like, sir, go to therapy.
Speaker 3: There is something wrong with you.
Speaker 1: No teak inside?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and also why do you want you want shirtless
Speaker 2: teen boys around all the time?
Speaker 3: Look to yourself?
Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh and that's where really where all this is space.
Speaker 1: He had no self esteem, like he had all this
Speaker 1: botched face surgery and stuff. Not that I'm you know,
Speaker 1: that's fine, but it looked like he got it in
Speaker 1: a hurry in the back of a car or something. Yes,
Speaker 1: And it's it's like he obviously wasn't happy with how
Speaker 1: he looked, and so he's like judging other people. It's
Speaker 1: a very strange. He's a very scary person. It's worth
Speaker 1: watching that documentary.
Speaker 3: Well, and I.
Speaker 2: Think those people there is that kind of like the
Speaker 2: rich concept where and especially these days, like you're saying,
Speaker 2: you looked at that audience and they're all beautiful. That's
Speaker 2: totally how like people who are twenty five, because first
Speaker 2: of all, they're young, and you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: Like it's just like me every time I look in
Speaker 2: the mirror. There's a new crack in my face. I'm like,
Speaker 2: what is happening? These people have not they still have
Speaker 2: all their collagen and they still have all their all
Speaker 2: the pluses on top of which, especially in Orange County crowd,
Speaker 2: they have tons of money.
Speaker 3: So they're getting plastic surgery.
Speaker 2: And that's the thing we don't understand, or I don't understand,
Speaker 2: because that's not anything anyone even has to just me do.
Speaker 1: And a lot or boat talk or injection like all
Speaker 1: that's it's just general maintenance. Even young people. It's like
Speaker 1: normal now. Yeah, no, not like I'm not Jeglis, but
Speaker 1: I think injectables when people want to look better, that's fine.
Speaker 1: But man, when this guy was getting aunt, they were
Speaker 1: just figuring out the old snip and tuck behind the ear.
Speaker 1: I remember seeing someone once with staples behind there be
Speaker 1: under their ear because they literally this is just coming
Speaker 1: to me. It was like the first thing I saw
Speaker 1: when I well just moved here from Montana and Texas.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that guy has staples behind his ear.
Speaker 1: It was like yeah, and it was pulled back like
Speaker 1: the eyebrows pulled up, kind of like when Madonna would
Speaker 1: have her bun too tight.
Speaker 3: Yep, it's rough.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, also there's a there's a look to it.
Speaker 2: We were just talking about this last night because it
Speaker 2: was me and my friends and everyone's over fifty, so
Speaker 2: we're just like, you know, it's like everybody wants like, oh,
Speaker 2: nobody wants a saggy neck, but at the same time,
Speaker 2: no one wants a facelift, because you you know, you
Speaker 2: want like certain places to be improved. But overall, I
Speaker 2: have no interest in looking like i've because you always
Speaker 2: look like you had a facelift, or you always look
Speaker 2: if you got work done.
Speaker 3: It almost always looks like it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally, And you're just.
Speaker 2: Kind of like showing the world that this is your
Speaker 2: concern and this is and they're like, but I remember
Speaker 2: your old face, so now I'm just goes to accept
Speaker 2: your name.
Speaker 1: Though. Sometimes like it's like there's a movie where Wayne
Speaker 1: Newton had a cameo. Oh it was I was watching Hacks.
Speaker 1: It's like the current season of Hacks and Wayne Newton
Speaker 1: has a cameo in it. He's got to be late
Speaker 1: seventies at this point. His face Wayne Newton, Wayne, or
Speaker 1: am I thinking of Tom Jones? No, Wayne Newton isn't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, that guy's easily in his eighties if
Speaker 2: it's not nineties.
Speaker 1: He looked he has had I'm just saying you can
Speaker 1: tell it's there, and the teeth or look like pieces
Speaker 1: of gum. I mean, good normal sized chicklets. I mean
Speaker 1: it's it's great, but he looks he looks it looks artificial,
Speaker 1: but he looks great in a weird way, like kind
Speaker 1: of it's it's hard. It's just I'm conditioned now to
Speaker 1: be like, man, that's some really good work. It's what
Speaker 1: I'm what I'm saying, Like I saw it, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I can't believe because zero wrinkles. Sure, everything's tight and
Speaker 1: but no bags, no, and it doesn't look natural. But
Speaker 1: he looks great and he's a showman. He had you know,
Speaker 1: he's in Vegas. He's got well.
Speaker 2: And also once you get it, once you get a facelift,
Speaker 2: you have to keep it up because that's really face. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you have to keep getting that work done because that's
Speaker 2: your face now. So it's like you can't you have
Speaker 2: a facelift, and then you're not going to be like,
Speaker 2: well then here we go. It's all sliding back down.
Speaker 2: You have to keep on nipping and tucking and injecting.
Speaker 2: That's why they like those people that get the lip injections.
Speaker 1: That's all temporary, right it is.
Speaker 2: So they keep getting them, and that's why their lips
Speaker 2: get bigger and bigger. Where it's like, hey, I remember
Speaker 2: you when you had a normal mouth and now you're
Speaker 2: straight up trout face. I just think it's I think
Speaker 2: our eyes are acclimating to this.
Speaker 3: Plastic surgery.
Speaker 2: So it is that kind of thing where like instead
Speaker 2: of it's not you know, a movie star, and you're like,
Speaker 2: of course you should look like that, because everyone your
Speaker 2: job is to be looked at. It's anyone at fucking
Speaker 2: Vaughn's where just like, hey, we're just hanging out.
Speaker 1: I will say, though, when I had to get my
Speaker 1: tonsils out and the guy was like, while I'm in there,
Speaker 1: I'm going to do a septoplastate because I've had my
Speaker 1: nose that's been broken and I can't. I can't if
Speaker 1: I try and do a netty pot. My nostrils are
Speaker 1: not connected basically, so he had to go in there
Speaker 1: and trust me, afterwards, they really broke my nose. It
Speaker 1: was very painful to get that temporary you know. It
Speaker 1: redeviated a year later. But I did ask him while
Speaker 1: I was in there. I'm like, oh, can you like
Speaker 1: And I hate admitting this, but I did ask about
Speaker 1: him making my nose smaller. My mom had a nose
Speaker 1: job when she was young, and she's a mom in
Speaker 1: Montana and she never liked her nose. I remember her
Speaker 1: complaining about it when I was a kid, and she
Speaker 1: got it from some Montana plastic surgeon that probably did
Speaker 1: one nose every couple years. Yeah, and painfully, like they
Speaker 1: don't get enough practice up there. But uh, and I
Speaker 1: it made her happier, so I was like, okay, cool,
Speaker 1: But it's in me too. I am embarrassed that I'm
Speaker 1: even admitting this, but I.
Speaker 2: Well, what's weird to me is you don't have a
Speaker 2: big nose, so that idea is weird to me.
Speaker 1: Well, you haven't seen I can fit a roll of
Speaker 1: quarters up my nostrils.
Speaker 3: Look what that's why it keeps deviating? Stop it?
Speaker 1: Oh no, just around the surface. But I do notice
Speaker 1: that it stretches out my nostrils and they stay stretched.
Speaker 1: My nostrils are like a wind sock. It's just like
Speaker 1: it's a bad idea. It was a parlor trick I
Speaker 1: used to do in sixth grade. See all my quarters
Speaker 1: I could stick up my nostrils, and then.
Speaker 2: Chris is at the lobster feed trying to impress the tart.
Speaker 2: People don't do it. You try to win them over.
Speaker 1: Guys, don't put anything in me. Look, I'm putting quarters
Speaker 1: up my nostrils and then I run.
Speaker 2: And everyone's eyes light up. Wait, you're into that? Oh
Speaker 2: the upside on pineapple with a sprig of lemon additional
Speaker 2: sign you're into something disgusting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you show up all glazed with an apple
Speaker 1: in your mouth, they know you're down. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Maybe that takes a little effort on your part, but
Speaker 2: it will be where it's been that message, don't you
Speaker 2: get it.
Speaker 1: I want someone to put me on a spit wink
Speaker 1: wink made of digs anyway. Yeah, I know, I'm happy
Speaker 1: with my nose. I'm just saying I always, I always.
Speaker 1: You know, when you see my whole life, when you
Speaker 1: see someone just a little ski jump nose, it's always like, oh,
Speaker 1: I wonder what it would have been like to have
Speaker 1: that kind of brad pity little ski jump nose. You know.
Speaker 2: Well, And also I think there's just everybody has a
Speaker 2: thing where they think I need some this would be
Speaker 2: the thing that makes a difference. And for me, all
Speaker 2: my life it was weight. And then when I did
Speaker 2: finally lose a bunch of weight and nothing changed, and
Speaker 2: including how I felt about myself even though I was
Speaker 2: like so skinny it was insane. Then I was like,
Speaker 2: oh shit, this is bad because this was the thing
Speaker 2: I had attributed all of my problems and shortcomings and
Speaker 2: unhappiness to. And I remember and it was there was
Speaker 2: a little body dysmorphia too, because I never looked thin
Speaker 2: to myself and I was so skinny. I wore like
Speaker 2: I wore size four genes. I could have been freely
Speaker 2: accepted into Abercrombie and Fitch, although it might not have
Speaker 2: been pretty enough. But depends I feel, Yeah, exactly, I
Speaker 2: have to get by that sophomore with that's all yoked.
Speaker 3: But I feel like that thing.
Speaker 2: I wonder And it would be an interesting thing to
Speaker 2: talk to people who have had surgery that actually changes
Speaker 2: their so when they look in the mirror, it's not
Speaker 2: their face anymore, and.
Speaker 3: Actually see did this work? Does it make you happier?
Speaker 2: Like you're saying your mom's no job did make her happier,
Speaker 2: and there's some myet two.
Speaker 1: Years to heal.
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, getting new teeth made me happier, right
Speaker 2: like it absolutely I had nothing to do with other
Speaker 2: people going I love your teeth.
Speaker 3: It was I hated my teeth.
Speaker 1: I wake up with that with puffy eye bags under
Speaker 1: my eyes. I know there's stuff they can they either
Speaker 1: add fat or they pull it out. I would do that,
Speaker 1: and I'm just admitting that to you. And I'm assuming
Speaker 1: no one's listening to this episode. I guess a lot
Speaker 1: of people are, but I would do that.
Speaker 3: I just we get medium numbers once exactly.
Speaker 1: I would not if this podcast was more popular, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't be omitting any of this stuff. I'm gonna get dibags.
Speaker 3: Surgery, very different conversations.
Speaker 1: I I would do that, And honestly, when when I
Speaker 1: got my tonsilectomy thing, He's just like, oh the I
Speaker 1: thought maybe I could give you a free shave off
Speaker 1: some nose there, but they aren't going to cover it,
Speaker 1: and so I was like, oh, okay, never mind. It
Speaker 1: was crazy anyway, because I hate the idea of like
Speaker 1: people noticing that you did something like That's what I
Speaker 1: don't understand. You just go to an island for a
Speaker 1: week with bruises and gauze on your face and come
Speaker 1: back and assume no one's going to know that you
Speaker 1: have a different I didn't realize you used to have
Speaker 1: a butt chin. That's what I would get. I'd get
Speaker 1: a butt chin.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I want a little bb dimple on my chin and
Speaker 1: I want a big old chin. And did you know
Speaker 1: it's a piece of plastic they put in there. Yes,
Speaker 1: and it's blue. It's blue.
Speaker 3: It's blue.
Speaker 1: It's a blue piece of plastic. I've seen it before,
Speaker 1: the chin implant. They add chin to the front and
Speaker 1: then that pulls your jaw neck tight. Yeah, and it's blue.
Speaker 3: I mean, here's the thing. What to me?
Speaker 2: And I know other people don't think the same way
Speaker 2: as me when I see that, and it's like, so
Speaker 2: you've had part of your nose shaved off and now
Speaker 2: your face is different than and you're thirty blank years old,
Speaker 2: so I know for a fact that was not your
Speaker 2: face before. Now when I'm looking at you, am I saying,
Speaker 2: oh my god, they're so overwhelmingly gorgeous. No, I'm saying,
Speaker 2: what's wrong with them? But that's what they did.
Speaker 1: If you skip down and move and you're starting a
Speaker 1: new life, you know, because of the murder you did,
Speaker 1: which I showed, yes, it would. It would be uh,
Speaker 1: you know, you just show up someone and they're like,
Speaker 1: look at that guy's amazing chin. I've never seen him.
Speaker 3: Is that Kirk Douglas.
Speaker 1: I'm yeah, Douglas? Is that?
Speaker 3: Is that a Douglas brother?
Speaker 1: Even I can't remember what Halloween costume it was. By
Speaker 1: put a little dollup of super glue in my chin
Speaker 1: and pinched it and I had a butt tin all night.
Speaker 1: It worked. It totally worked. So if you if you
Speaker 1: don't want to get anything injected, but you do want
Speaker 1: that little cleft chin, you can I'm not getting it worked,
Speaker 1: but it just a little pinch, a little pinch of
Speaker 1: blue there because you know, a super blue.
Speaker 2: Oh we've been We've been for real. We've done this podcast,
Speaker 2: Chris for almost ten years. I've never heard that fucking.
Speaker 1: Wy admitted a lot of you know, dys morphia things
Speaker 1: I've talked about, all these orgies I've been turned down from,
Speaker 1: I mean asked to leave and uh, and yeah, that
Speaker 1: butt chin thing. I was a little worried. Eventually, it
Speaker 1: just it peeled off and I had my normal chin back.
Speaker 1: But I had a couple of days. I'm looking real douglassy.
Speaker 2: Now we're when you walk down the street. Were women
Speaker 2: drivers slamming on the brakes? Where was there a wolf whssling?
Speaker 2: Where did people gather around?
Speaker 1: I was offered everything from new jobs, armani suits. Uh.
Speaker 1: One guy just threw me the keys to his Porsche
Speaker 1: once he thought because you wore your red vest. A
Speaker 1: lot of people rolling down the window and doing that
Speaker 1: thing with their tongue in their mouth and then their
Speaker 1: hair like mimicking like a blowjob. I got a lot
Speaker 1: of that. Oh okay, yeah, just because of the butt chin.
Speaker 1: A lot of propositions for sacks and money change. No
Speaker 1: one noticed at all. I thought it was so funny,
Speaker 1: and I going up to my friends, I'm like, notice anything,
Speaker 1: and they're like no, I'm like, I got a butt
Speaker 1: chin and then they laugh. But actually no one did
Speaker 1: notice at first.
Speaker 2: Also, that's the other thing to remember when we're feeling insecure,
Speaker 2: when we're like, because listen, listen, I'm not above plastic surgery.
Speaker 2: I actually was talking to my sister because I was like,
Speaker 2: it's now getting to the point where I furrow my
Speaker 2: brow so much that the furrow isn't going away, It's
Speaker 2: it looks like I'm furrowing constantly. When I'm in a
Speaker 2: great mood, it still looks like that because the divots
Speaker 2: are so ingrained, and like botox it it literally will
Speaker 2: make it go way, so I would. Yeah, there's nothing
Speaker 2: to do whatever, there's nothing wrong with it at all,
Speaker 2: except for just to me.
Speaker 3: It's just this idea that in.
Speaker 1: A minute, didn't you what's the vampire facial? Didn't you
Speaker 1: get didn't you have a blood platelet's rubbed in your
Speaker 1: Was it your blood or another.
Speaker 3: My own blood?
Speaker 2: It was like they put a scraper on your face
Speaker 2: and scrape it just enough. They're like two layers of
Speaker 2: your skin so that it brings the collagen ough to
Speaker 2: heal what they scrape.
Speaker 1: Second degree burnt. Did you have to stay indoors for days?
Speaker 2: I had to just be aware. Yeah, I just kind
Speaker 2: of stayed out of the sun.
Speaker 1: But I remember when you did that, I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: got because the name is scary, but I wanted to
Speaker 1: do it too and then just not tell anyone.
Speaker 2: But I think it's like my thing is just we
Speaker 2: all think that people are looking at us the way
Speaker 2: we look at ourselves, and they're not, because everybody's so
Speaker 2: obsessed with themselves and what they look like and how
Speaker 2: big their nose is. So it's like we think it's like, oh,
Speaker 2: here's the buttchin that's going to make me the king
Speaker 2: of this party.
Speaker 3: And of course people are.
Speaker 2: Just like, hey, what's up, because no one's really thinking
Speaker 2: about you that much.
Speaker 3: It isn't how it is.
Speaker 1: I wish it were. I realized that a long time,
Speaker 1: whether it's good or bad, we're always wondering what other
Speaker 1: people are thinking of us. And in reality, the sad
Speaker 1: news is they're not even thinking about you at all. No,
Speaker 1: it's just you in your head, worrying about a thing
Speaker 1: that doesn't exist. And you know what, you know, who
Speaker 1: look good with tons of work done? Joan Rivers. I
Speaker 1: thought in the end, I was like, she looks. I
Speaker 1: just was used to because, like you said, she maintained
Speaker 1: once that got started, she had to maintain it. And
Speaker 1: I always thought she looked.
Speaker 2: I think after a while, you know, she was old
Speaker 2: and she had this face that got she Here's the
Speaker 2: thing about Joan Rivers, and I know people absolutely adore
Speaker 2: her whatever she was so fucking mean about what everybody
Speaker 2: else looked like, right, and she is getting her entire
Speaker 2: face replaced every eight months, and it was just like man.
Speaker 2: But but it was a kind of of the era.
Speaker 2: You know. She was just like a she was like
Speaker 2: a mean comic, but she was really mean to women.
Speaker 3: She was really mean to anybody that was slightly overweight. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and it was all to me.
Speaker 2: It's just like it all reflects back to like what
Speaker 2: you're what you're feeling and thinking you would.
Speaker 1: They ran a clip of her and and her daughter
Speaker 1: being mean in that way. And I was doing crowd
Speaker 1: warm up at E and I made a comment, uh,
Speaker 1: of some isn't that the pot calling the kettle black?
Speaker 1: Type comment? Uh? And I got fired. Oh I was.
Speaker 1: I was in the house that Joan Rivers built. They
Speaker 1: didn't tell me, that's why. But the guy directing who
Speaker 1: would direct. I did a few different shows. It started
Speaker 1: with Michael Costa's show we've talked about for a brief time.
Speaker 1: I was doing crowd warm up to see if I
Speaker 1: liked it, and I was let go and that's why
Speaker 1: it was a clip of Melissa and Joan Rivers and
Speaker 1: I made a comment about them being mean to people
Speaker 1: when they themselves had done all that work. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so I learned. Did I learn my lesson?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess so.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: It never feels good to get fired.
Speaker 3: I guess no.
Speaker 2: No, well, And also, but you wouldn't imagine that that
Speaker 2: a passing comment would have that kind of power.
Speaker 1: But I barely said it into the microphone. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was to the audience. But whoever hurt was hearing me.
Speaker 1: I think that's why I was let go, Oh, we
Speaker 1: don't need you next week. I'm like, uh, oh, I
Speaker 1: knew right away. Yeah, because when I said it, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: there is a big poster of her over there. I
Speaker 1: may he shouldn't have made that comment. I can't remember
Speaker 1: what I said.
Speaker 2: It would be kind of hilarious if, like you said
Speaker 2: it right as Melissa Rivers was walking by the control
Speaker 2: room and she's like sick, stops and goes back, No, what.
Speaker 3: The fuck did that guy say?
Speaker 1: Well, then i'd feel awful. Yeah it's just I blurt.
Speaker 1: But you know what, as mean as she was, she's
Speaker 1: made me laugh so many times.
Speaker 2: Look, she writes good. I mean she and the people
Speaker 2: that write for her write good. Hard jokes. But the
Speaker 2: thing is, and you know, I think we've talked about
Speaker 2: this before, it's just like if you're if it is
Speaker 2: no if it's no holds barred comedy, yeah, then why
Speaker 2: can't you say something about her? Right? It's like that
Speaker 2: kind of thing where it has to swing both ways
Speaker 2: to good back.
Speaker 1: And that's why I really appreciate it. And I know
Speaker 1: you've seen this, but that's why I appreciate the clip
Speaker 1: where you know, Stern had sent out one of his
Speaker 1: sidekicks to interview Red Carpet and someone said something to
Speaker 1: her and she fired back immediately with yeah, and that's
Speaker 1: what I told your mother, Like, I can't remember what
Speaker 1: they said, but she is so quickly fired back and
Speaker 1: it and me the guy was fucking with her and
Speaker 1: she immediately hurt his feelings and it was the best
Speaker 1: moment ever because he was trying to get a rise
Speaker 1: out of her and she immediately was so quick with it.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Why would you quote unquote get a rise out of
Speaker 2: a person who's been doing insult comedy for seventy five
Speaker 2: fucking years.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's insane.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's all they do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But I mean, I don't know, I just think
Speaker 2: that's a bit precious where it's like, so she's literally
Speaker 2: just just anybody is fair game, and she just destroys
Speaker 2: anyone and says the meanest things. And then one person goes, yo,
Speaker 2: who are you to say? Because whatever, and then it's
Speaker 2: just like you're fired. It's like, oh, I thought, I
Speaker 2: thought everyone's supposed to have thick skin. I thought it'd
Speaker 2: take a joke. A joke's a joke. Oh I thought
Speaker 2: the rule was you.
Speaker 1: Know, she quite literally had thick skin after all these years.
Speaker 2: She I once on Twitter people, I had a lot
Speaker 2: of people get really mad at me because she was
Speaker 2: saying something mean about someone, and I said, this is ironic.
Speaker 2: When her face looks her face looks like a sucked
Speaker 2: in Caprice Capri sun bag because at that point she
Speaker 2: was so old, but she was still getting sorry to
Speaker 2: laugh at my own joke, but she was still getting
Speaker 2: so much plastic surgery that it started to look very bizarre.
Speaker 3: In my opinion, I think I.
Speaker 1: Will always laugh at a Caprice sun bag. It's just
Speaker 1: my childhood wrapped up in a right.
Speaker 2: She looked like someone had finished a Caprice son and
Speaker 2: then couldn't let it go and just kept trying to
Speaker 2: drink at it.
Speaker 1: I just imagine her mouth being the straw hole.
Speaker 3: It's easy.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 2: But also I think show business is so hard. It's
Speaker 2: so disgusting. There's such awful people in the business that
Speaker 2: are gatekeepers. There's like, you know, like that idea where
Speaker 2: you can't get small enough, you can't be pitteen enough
Speaker 2: for women, you can't be pretty enough, and all of
Speaker 2: that is like all of that is that idea that
Speaker 2: we're all suddenly now we're all.
Speaker 3: Supposed to be.
Speaker 2: I mean, like, I hate it because I'm actually in
Speaker 2: this position of like getting my picture taken and stuff
Speaker 2: where it's like, hey, I'm a fucking writer. I stopped
Speaker 2: trying to do this years ago, but now I have
Speaker 2: to be concerned with all of these super like these
Speaker 2: things that if thirty year olds are getting injectables and
Speaker 2: I'm fifty two and I have never gotten anything, it's
Speaker 2: gonna fucking show and it's going to be kind of
Speaker 2: surprising how much it shows. And that's it's to me.
Speaker 2: I want to go I'm not here for the beauty contest,
Speaker 2: like I don't. I don't want gigantic lips. It would
Speaker 2: looks so fucking weird and weird for comedy.
Speaker 1: I always say, with comedy, i'd like to think we
Speaker 1: don't have to worry about that as much, and even
Speaker 1: women I would like to because imagine just being an
Speaker 1: actor and you have I mean that I can't. I
Speaker 1: like the idea that with stand up it's it's possible,
Speaker 1: except being intimidated by young, hot audiences. In my own head,
Speaker 1: it kind of doesn't matter, you know, right, And if anything,
Speaker 1: you know how I like to make wacky faces. What
Speaker 1: if I lost control over my comedic trademark eyebrows and lip,
Speaker 1: my different lip positions that I can laughs from, you know,
Speaker 1: I like to mug it up.
Speaker 2: But here's the thing that you would never lose control over, which.
Speaker 3: Is a butt chin.
Speaker 2: I think how you're gonna say my bowels crazy glue?
Speaker 1: Nope, I'm gonna I'll do it again. Okay, have a
Speaker 1: party or something Halloween. I promise I will glue a
Speaker 1: butt chin on my face. It's the It works, and
Speaker 1: I forgot about it. And I have to think of
Speaker 1: a good costume.
Speaker 2: Now Spartakiss, Yeah, Kirk Douglas as Spartakiss. So you get
Speaker 2: to dress as a gladiator.
Speaker 1: What about the moon from those old the piano playing
Speaker 1: moon Mac Tonight, I know that he had a moonhead
Speaker 1: and a moon.
Speaker 3: That was not a but chin.
Speaker 1: There was a big old butt chin on that moon
Speaker 1: there was.
Speaker 3: I thought it was pointy.
Speaker 1: Well, no, that it's weird because his body is the moon,
Speaker 1: but in the crescent of the moon is a big
Speaker 1: old chin and sunglasses. Like he had a nose and
Speaker 1: a mouth and a chin and then a pointy thing
Speaker 1: that is his coming out of his chest. Basically, I
Speaker 1: don't know. Now, I need to look up a picture
Speaker 1: of mac tonight the moon man bade up right now.
Speaker 3: Images also so many people have done. There's like lots
Speaker 3: of choices. Oh, I see ye, big old butchin.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: Well, one thing I never forget, Karen, is a good
Speaker 1: solid but chein.
Speaker 2: You're gonna have to look it up because it's actually
Speaker 2: not the way you're remembering it.
Speaker 1: Okay, it's just a It is a prominent chin though, right, Oh, absolutely,
Speaker 1: but it's actually crescent moon chin unless I'm looking at
Speaker 1: the wrong picture.
Speaker 3: No, I'm going to send you.
Speaker 1: This gift Donald's piano. Man.
Speaker 2: This was such a weird fucking commercial. I wonder if
Speaker 2: they redid.
Speaker 1: It anyway, I will I want to do some sort
Speaker 1: of Okay, I'm gonna do a butt chin. Maybe I'll
Speaker 1: just be a guy with a butt chin, or maybe
Speaker 1: I'll just go as Michael Douglas the actor.
Speaker 3: Does he have one?
Speaker 1: He does? Father well, he has the even more sought
Speaker 1: after bby hole chin. It's not a butt it's just
Speaker 1: an actual dimple.
Speaker 2: You're right, it's the I'm sorry, Kirk Douglas and Spartacus.
Speaker 2: That's the bebe hole chin. It's isn't it like Huey
Speaker 2: Lewis has a butt chin. Yeah, Huey Lewis in the news.
Speaker 3: Correct.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Corness has it, and a lot of people
Speaker 1: have that bby hole chin. I really, it's one of
Speaker 1: my favorite things. If surgery buys you that, I don't
Speaker 1: think anyone would be Matt I would own it. I'd
Speaker 1: be like, hey, look I got a butt chin. I've
Speaker 1: always wanted one.
Speaker 2: Judge away, Wait, I'm trying to look up. We have
Speaker 2: to wrap this up, I think, I mean we're doing
Speaker 2: this on time.
Speaker 1: I just want to come to a good but chin conclusion.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we need to settle some stuff.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's playing saxophone, which is so that's Oh,
Speaker 1: you're right. I was so wrong. The moon is his chin.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 1: I don't know why. I guess it's just obviously since
Speaker 1: it's the edge of the moon that chin. Imagine having
Speaker 1: a big, pointy lung. Yes, orange chin.
Speaker 3: Very upsetting kind of is.
Speaker 1: Oh, we lived in a terrible era. We grew up
Speaker 1: in a strange era. That's a monster. And I when
Speaker 1: you and I first hung out and made each other laugh,
Speaker 1: that was the time I went to your house and
Speaker 1: we watched Mac and Me and Yeah High and laughed
Speaker 1: because it's an insane movie. And if you people listening
Speaker 1: haven't heard it. I just did a cover for my
Speaker 1: friend Mac, who's doing like a residency at the Echo,
Speaker 1: and I did a Mac and Me, but I put
Speaker 1: her face on the logo. It's on my I'll send
Speaker 1: it to you. It was really fun. The whole time
Speaker 1: I was thinking about that time and how that became
Speaker 1: my the weirdest movie I ever recommend to anyone. It's
Speaker 1: all one big McDonald's commercial. We've definitely talked about it
Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah, but I just re experienced all of
Speaker 1: that just because I was looking at it and recreating
Speaker 1: that poster.
Speaker 3: It's so disturbing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the most disturbing movie ever.
Speaker 3: Huey Lewis absolutely does have the but chin. He is
Speaker 3: classic butch.
Speaker 1: And I sent you a gift has a good one.
Speaker 3: And Michael Douglas, you're right, he has a but chin.
Speaker 1: Hey, why don't you type in Tom Selik chin and
Speaker 1: the fucking conversation is over. Put in selic chin right now?
Speaker 1: Holy shit, I and this is just chins for memory
Speaker 1: for me, yes, oh my god, but in selic chin.
Speaker 3: And look at this gift.
Speaker 2: There's a there's a gift of Tom Selik in underwear
Speaker 2: and they someone made his chest hair glitter.
Speaker 3: He's got a normal funny he's got.
Speaker 1: A normal chin. Who I'm wrong, Selik, he doesn't have
Speaker 1: a butt chan. He's got a chin like I'm regular
Speaker 1: me like me, Yeah.
Speaker 3: You know what it is.
Speaker 2: It's just a Tom Selick is absolutely a gorgeous man.
Speaker 2: So he has all the qualities of like a leading
Speaker 2: man like that, but he doesn't have that.
Speaker 1: It's you and your love of eyebrows. He's got thick, bushy.
Speaker 3: I do I love a swarthy man.
Speaker 1: Feral caterpillars. It's just a good Peter Gallagher.
Speaker 2: Peter Gallagher has a real good chin. Which one does
Speaker 2: he have though, butt or bbe?
Speaker 1: Go on Twitter, everyone just send us all the butt
Speaker 1: kin content you got.
Speaker 2: Gallagher search Wait, oh, I just put I just searched
Speaker 2: Peter Gallagher in my texts as if he had said me,
Speaker 2: what if.
Speaker 1: That's the way you found out You've been pen pals
Speaker 1: with Peter Gallagher this whole time.
Speaker 3: He totally so low key.
Speaker 2: He never even mentioned that I've been texting him this
Speaker 2: al time. Peter Gallagher has a normal chin too.
Speaker 1: Damn it. I keep having all these butt chin missfires.
Speaker 3: But the butt chin is rare. The bebe chin is
Speaker 3: even more rare.
Speaker 1: Oh, I believe it is like the sweet, sweet, extinct
Speaker 1: banana that they want anyway. Finishing it, we talked about
Speaker 1: nerds bananas breaking your teeth open, and Carrie, one of
Speaker 1: one of the fans of our podcast, at my show
Speaker 1: in West Bend, she brought me a big bag of
Speaker 1: just the banana flavored runts. But they were yeah, but
Speaker 1: they weren't hard. They were soft, melt in your mouth runts.
Speaker 1: And at first I don't want any banana flavored. I
Speaker 1: don't even want banana flavored bananas. But apparently the flavor
Speaker 1: of that flavor of banana is based on an now
Speaker 1: extinct banana. No, I apparently, Yeah, that's not true. It
Speaker 1: is I promise, I promise. I can't remember the name
Speaker 1: of banana. But what we know, the banana flavor we
Speaker 1: know from candy and different sweet drinks is based on
Speaker 1: a banana that you can't get anymore.
Speaker 3: It's based on chemicals.
Speaker 1: I yes, well, of course the candy they didn't used
Speaker 1: to squirt ole. Now hard to get banana juice in it.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying it was. It was fashioned after intubes. Yeah, wen't.
Speaker 1: I can't wait for banana milk to be on every
Speaker 1: grocer's shelf next to a cup of tree sapp That
Speaker 1: was fun. Okay, good, we did work. Good work today.
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