WEBVTT - Headlines from the Future 0:00:01.880 --> 0:00:07.920 Be Around the NFL Podcast put on Weight over the offseason. 0:00:09.560 --> 0:00:12.760 Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast, 0:00:12.840 --> 0:00:16.360 presented by New Era. My name is Dan Hanss and 0:00:16.400 --> 0:00:19.160 I am joined by room filled with some heroes, Mark 0:00:19.239 --> 0:00:23.200 Sessler and Gregg Rows. It thought, what's up boys who 0:00:23.239 --> 0:00:25.439 put on weight? What is that? That feels like, you know, 0:00:25.440 --> 0:00:28.040 an unmitigated jab but nobody that's how. That's how I 0:00:28.040 --> 0:00:30.800 I mean, we got old beach body over here, Mark Sessler, 0:00:30.880 --> 0:00:34.800 beach body coach. I was watching randomly a show from 0:00:34.840 --> 0:00:38.680 like two decembers ago. We all look a little bit 0:00:38.760 --> 0:00:41.320 less insane than we did then in terms of better 0:00:41.400 --> 0:00:44.479 we were pasty disasters two decembers ago. Yeah, I've been 0:00:44.560 --> 0:00:47.520 rounding a lot. I mean, I'm in good shape. Ione's 0:00:47.560 --> 0:00:50.199 looking good. I'm where I am, which is not in 0:00:50.280 --> 0:00:52.760 a great place, but not like is some type of 0:00:52.800 --> 0:00:54.560 situation where they're gonna have to like send me away 0:00:54.560 --> 0:00:56.600 to a camp or something. I think if someone wrote 0:00:57.160 --> 0:00:59.760 some human in the building created that line about the 0:00:59.800 --> 0:01:02.160 four of us, and I don't appreciate it. We're onto you, 0:01:02.200 --> 0:01:06.760 Patrick Laban, December December is tricky, though you mentioned December 0:01:07.120 --> 0:01:09.040 December is after like at the end of a long 0:01:09.120 --> 0:01:12.880 season where there's uh, there's food that they're just feeding you, 0:01:13.240 --> 0:01:15.840 like uh, like you're on in some type of factory 0:01:15.880 --> 0:01:18.280 and it's just like on a conveyor belt, but into 0:01:18.319 --> 0:01:20.560 your body as you keep writing about and by then 0:01:20.600 --> 0:01:23.240 I'm just asked, I want like an assassin's bullet to 0:01:23.240 --> 0:01:25.200 take me out in the middle of the the middle 0:01:25.200 --> 0:01:28.000 of December. There is always a big time difference, like 0:01:28.120 --> 0:01:30.400 they'll be those stories like oh, look how good Eric 0:01:30.440 --> 0:01:33.039 Mangini looks after the you know, the off season, he 0:01:33.120 --> 0:01:35.039 really got in shape, and then cut to like week 0:01:35.160 --> 0:01:39.240 fift just is in a different place. Then that's one 0:01:39.240 --> 0:01:42.960 way to put it. Uh yeah, good show today. A 0:01:42.959 --> 0:01:45.600 lot to get to today. This is of course our 0:01:45.760 --> 0:01:50.040 Wednesday video show and uh the video show, which you 0:01:50.040 --> 0:01:52.320 could check out at NFL dot com slash a t 0:01:52.480 --> 0:01:56.040 N video nine thirty pm Eastern Time. This will go 0:01:56.160 --> 0:02:02.960 up on the website six Pacific, London, deal with it, Australia, whatever, Ireland, 0:02:03.560 --> 0:02:07.920 the Emerald figured problem or just watch it whenever you 0:02:07.960 --> 0:02:11.359 want at NFL dot com. For those guys, just take 0:02:11.400 --> 0:02:13.480 a take a day and fully don't think about the show. 0:02:13.480 --> 0:02:17.800 At all. Catch it tomorrow, it'll be there. Japan asked Greg. 0:02:18.080 --> 0:02:24.120 Everything a fourteen hour difference or so, um, big show today, 0:02:24.160 --> 0:02:26.840 Big show today. We are going to talk about some 0:02:26.919 --> 0:02:29.480 QB announcements. Oh yeah, they're starting to pile up a 0:02:29.520 --> 0:02:32.200 little bit here. Um. So we're gonna go through some 0:02:32.240 --> 0:02:35.320 decisions being made as we get ready for Week three 0:02:35.320 --> 0:02:39.440 of the preseason. That's when teams get serious. Also, we're 0:02:39.480 --> 0:02:44.679 debuting a brand new segment, uh Rhodo World Blurbs from 0:02:44.720 --> 0:02:49.200 the Future, So get ready for that. Be okay, could 0:02:49.200 --> 0:02:51.079 be a disaster. No, it's gonna be good. People don't 0:02:51.120 --> 0:02:53.440 know this, but I still have the password to the 0:02:53.480 --> 0:02:56.200 Rhoda World admin system, so I can do this. I 0:02:56.240 --> 0:02:59.160 can write blurbs in the future. Note to Evan Silva, 0:02:59.280 --> 0:03:02.120 change the path sword, that would be helpful. And also 0:03:02.200 --> 0:03:06.360 we're bringing them back trash Takes with Patrick claiban and 0:03:06.520 --> 0:03:09.639 uh we we figured we had to send out the 0:03:09.639 --> 0:03:13.000 the trash Takes light like with the Batman symbol in 0:03:13.040 --> 0:03:15.639 the air when Odell Beckham got hurt on Monday Night 0:03:15.840 --> 0:03:18.840 against the Browns. Uh So Claibon will join us at 0:03:18.840 --> 0:03:20.880 the bottom of the show to talk about that. But 0:03:21.000 --> 0:03:25.239 before we do anything else, we say hello to the 0:03:25.280 --> 0:03:28.040 woman behind the glass Erica tamp post. She's just getting 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:33.000 her feet wet. What's up, Erica. Yep, feed her wet, 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:36.040 feed her so but you know that she's just dipping 0:03:36.040 --> 0:03:38.360 them in. But she's not afraid to do some controversial 0:03:38.400 --> 0:03:41.320 things or you know, suggest anything. I mean, she's coming 0:03:41.360 --> 0:03:45.200 in hot, like it the bizarro Sydney on that level, 0:03:45.400 --> 0:03:48.960 where a bit of a firecracker and and you gotta 0:03:49.000 --> 0:03:51.200 you gotta see what's gonna happen next. Going to keep 0:03:51.200 --> 0:03:54.720 her verbiage short, but behind the scenes operating in a 0:03:54.840 --> 0:03:57.520 very menacing way. Potentially, she's like she's like called up 0:03:57.560 --> 0:04:01.360 from double A and she's throwing fastballs at a batter's chin. Right, yeah, 0:04:01.520 --> 0:04:03.680 it's like, whooa, don't go don't aim at the head. 0:04:04.080 --> 0:04:06.360 It don't buzz the tower. If you're gonna go near, 0:04:06.560 --> 0:04:08.760 maybe hit him in the side, get him in the ribs, 0:04:08.760 --> 0:04:11.640 get him in the buttocks. Uh, stay away from the 0:04:11.640 --> 0:04:13.920 old bean ball. She said, No, that's the only way 0:04:13.920 --> 0:04:15.640 I know how to play. This is all checking out 0:04:15.920 --> 0:04:18.080 a little bit, but like, guys, be careful. I could 0:04:18.160 --> 0:04:20.120 change like the entire pitch of your voice if I 0:04:20.120 --> 0:04:24.080 don't like what is can we absolutely trust that you 0:04:24.120 --> 0:04:27.200 would do that? Yes, you should. Let's do some news. 0:04:27.200 --> 0:04:31.160 I'm scared. I'm scared of our producer, Coach Jackson and 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:33.839 coach the I can't say enough great things about those guys. 0:04:33.839 --> 0:04:41.280 So whatever they decide, I you know, support one. Well, 0:04:41.320 --> 0:04:46.360 that's good brock Oswidler, because things are not trending well 0:04:46.400 --> 0:04:50.360 for you in Cleveland. Uh, brock Oswidler, who as late 0:04:50.400 --> 0:04:54.080 as Monday afternoon, if if you were watching Total Access, 0:04:54.200 --> 0:04:57.600 the flagship show of NFL network, Ian Rappaport did a 0:04:57.600 --> 0:04:59.800 live report right before the Browns and Giants kicked off, 0:05:00.000 --> 0:05:03.600 sing that brock Osweiler basically has the starting job for 0:05:03.640 --> 0:05:06.880 the Browns locked up. He just needs to not blow 0:05:06.920 --> 0:05:09.160 it against the Giants. And brock Osler then went out 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:12.480 on the field and played extremely poorly, which shouldn't surprise 0:05:12.480 --> 0:05:15.599 anyone because he's a poor quarterback. Let's be honest, I'm 0:05:15.600 --> 0:05:17.760 trying to be mean here, but the result of that 0:05:17.800 --> 0:05:22.160 poor play led to Brown's head coach Hugh Jackson announcing 0:05:22.160 --> 0:05:24.880 on Wednesday that rookie Deshaun Kaiser will start in the 0:05:24.920 --> 0:05:28.760 team's third preseason game, against the Bucks, and Uh, this 0:05:28.800 --> 0:05:33.279 is even crazier. No Brock at all in the third game, Mark, Uh, 0:05:33.320 --> 0:05:36.520 break it down well, I mean, of all the quarterback 0:05:36.560 --> 0:05:39.560 announcements that have you know, fluttered about the last couple 0:05:39.560 --> 0:05:42.680 of days, this one I find surprising. Although I think 0:05:42.720 --> 0:05:45.719 all of us would view Deshaun Kaiser as the better 0:05:45.760 --> 0:05:50.680 project at quarterback, He's still incredibly inexperienced and has barely 0:05:50.680 --> 0:05:53.760 played in the NFL, and yet you go with the 0:05:53.839 --> 0:05:55.919 player with more potential. I think we know what we 0:05:56.000 --> 0:05:58.520 have in Brock Osweidler, and you're sitting him at this 0:05:58.600 --> 0:06:01.880 point because I in two, because a couple of things 0:06:01.880 --> 0:06:06.080 could happen. A either Kaiser really really stinks up the 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:08.240 joint in this in this Week three match up against 0:06:08.240 --> 0:06:10.800 the Bucks, and you potentially still could go back to 0:06:10.839 --> 0:06:13.680 Osweiler and call, hey, rookie still needs to learn or 0:06:13.760 --> 0:06:17.080 be you shop Osweiler. You're still trying to shop him, 0:06:17.120 --> 0:06:18.880 and you don't get him hurt. You just keep him 0:06:18.880 --> 0:06:21.799 out of harm's way. Essentially, why put both potential starters 0:06:21.800 --> 0:06:25.760 in this game? I find it hard to believe there's 0:06:25.839 --> 0:06:30.359 any scenario where Osweiler starts Week one. I could be wrong, 0:06:30.520 --> 0:06:34.560 I'm just guessing, but I think you're making a choice here. 0:06:35.080 --> 0:06:37.640 As much as I respect, you know, our NFL Network 0:06:37.680 --> 0:06:41.000 insider I and Rap Barts saying that it was his chance. 0:06:41.000 --> 0:06:43.680 Not he played fourteen snaps in that game, brock Oswelder, 0:06:43.680 --> 0:06:45.800 It's like nine passing places. Not like he even got 0:06:45.880 --> 0:06:47.360 much of a chance. If you look at what they 0:06:47.400 --> 0:06:49.280 did in the preseason, he only played what was of 0:06:49.320 --> 0:06:52.400 four drives five drives, wasn't on the field that much. 0:06:52.480 --> 0:06:55.680 Kaiser was the guy they were getting ready in this game, 0:06:55.839 --> 0:06:58.840 and so I think I think the chip has sailed 0:06:58.839 --> 0:07:01.200 on brock Osweiler as a dental starter. I think it 0:07:01.279 --> 0:07:04.720 goes back to the idea that I was thinking about 0:07:04.720 --> 0:07:06.280 a couple of weeks ago when we were talking about 0:07:06.320 --> 0:07:09.240 some predictions and when he was working with the second 0:07:09.240 --> 0:07:13.000 team exclusively and uh Oswidler, and then all of a sudden, 0:07:13.040 --> 0:07:14.920 he was the starter in the first preseason game. That 0:07:15.040 --> 0:07:17.560 was a scratch your head moment. And then there was 0:07:17.640 --> 0:07:20.160 the week two and it seemed like he had this opportunity. 0:07:20.360 --> 0:07:22.160 But all it really feels like now is that they 0:07:22.160 --> 0:07:24.040 were putting him on a platform and they're trying to 0:07:24.040 --> 0:07:26.920 trade him. I think they would love to trade brock Osweidler, 0:07:27.000 --> 0:07:29.440 and even if it means shedding half of the sixteen 0:07:29.440 --> 0:07:31.800 million dollars or something like that to get him off 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:33.960 the books. But what they needed him to do is 0:07:34.000 --> 0:07:36.880 cooperate a little bit, and in both the first game 0:07:36.920 --> 0:07:39.440 and then his limiting playing limited playing the second game, 0:07:39.520 --> 0:07:42.920 he did nothing positive. So what value does brock Oswiler 0:07:43.000 --> 0:07:44.840 have on the trade market. The one thing I'd say 0:07:44.920 --> 0:07:46.640 is that whatever happened in a in a couple of 0:07:46.680 --> 0:07:49.120 series with Cleveland, I don't think the most general managers 0:07:49.160 --> 0:07:52.800 out there would say, hey, suddenly, he's a completely different 0:07:52.800 --> 0:07:54.720 player than he's been. He's he's a player with a 0:07:54.720 --> 0:07:57.880 lot of liabilities. The thing with Cleveland, I mean they've 0:07:57.920 --> 0:08:01.000 already won this scenario. They got a second round pick 0:08:01.080 --> 0:08:03.760 from the Texans for the Ostwelder thing, with money they 0:08:03.760 --> 0:08:06.280 didn't mind spending, if they even get if they if 0:08:06.320 --> 0:08:08.680 some team gets into dire straits and they trade him 0:08:08.720 --> 0:08:11.640 for a conditional six or seventh and cut the salary 0:08:11.680 --> 0:08:13.880 in half, it's another big win for They're not They're 0:08:13.880 --> 0:08:16.240 not cutting a salary in half. I don't think they'll 0:08:16.280 --> 0:08:18.560 find Well, they talked about every day. That's what they wanted. 0:08:18.600 --> 0:08:20.760 Their trade talks of him, that them saying they'll pay 0:08:20.800 --> 0:08:22.320 part of the salary. I get a team to take 0:08:22.400 --> 0:08:26.280 sixteen million. No, I'm saying a team would only take 0:08:26.280 --> 0:08:29.040 on Brock Osweilder if they I don't think any team 0:08:29.040 --> 0:08:31.280 would give up anything for Brock Oswelder to start. But 0:08:31.320 --> 0:08:34.120 if if I was wrong and they did, they're only 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:36.600 taken on let's say four million, five million, do There's 0:08:36.640 --> 0:08:39.160 no way a team is gonna play pay Brock Osweller 0:08:39.200 --> 0:08:41.959 eight million dollars right now. Still a win for Cleveland. 0:08:42.000 --> 0:08:43.320 You know they got what they needed out of it. 0:08:43.400 --> 0:08:45.480 You know it would be even better for Cleveland is 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:47.880 if Ryan Griggson was still the GM in Indianapolis, maybe 0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:49.960 you could have spent that would take back over to 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:52.640 the cult, could retrade frind Richardson to the car. It's 0:08:52.640 --> 0:08:54.320 a win for the It's always been a win for 0:08:54.320 --> 0:08:57.640 the Browns. It was trending towards a brown Z type 0:08:57.640 --> 0:08:59.760 thing to have him starting. But I think what they're 0:08:59.760 --> 0:09:02.920 doing here makes sense and it's smart. Black Osweiler is no, no, 0:09:03.120 --> 0:09:05.000 not even a bridge. Let's be honest. He's he's just 0:09:05.080 --> 0:09:07.280 Brock t get the kid in there if you think 0:09:07.320 --> 0:09:09.320 he can handle it. There's no reason to think he 0:09:09.679 --> 0:09:12.880 Brock would be better playing quarterback than de Shaun Kaiser 0:09:12.960 --> 0:09:15.520 or Cody Kessler, and he has no He obviously has 0:09:15.520 --> 0:09:18.760 no future in Cleveland. Kessler still does. So that's why 0:09:18.880 --> 0:09:21.480 I said, I can't see any scenario if for some reason, 0:09:21.600 --> 0:09:25.520 Kaiser really shows that they believe he can't start. And 0:09:25.640 --> 0:09:28.400 my mind is they've basically made their mind up. Kaiser 0:09:28.440 --> 0:09:29.599 is going to be the week, but they have to 0:09:29.640 --> 0:09:33.120 be expecting some rocky play, right for some reason they 0:09:33.200 --> 0:09:35.120 change their mind. They have Cody Kessler, and I think 0:09:35.160 --> 0:09:39.440 he'd start. Um, Cody Kessler is also there. So as 0:09:39.480 --> 0:09:41.960 we talked about, let's not call it a deep quarterback situation, 0:09:42.000 --> 0:09:44.480 I mean it's it's a Harry they could say, is 0:09:44.480 --> 0:09:46.679 our backup if they ever found a way to move Brock, 0:09:46.840 --> 0:09:49.760 they wouldn't be totally vulnerable with And they're like they're 0:09:49.800 --> 0:09:52.000 like a twisted like a hamstring injury in a flu 0:09:52.120 --> 0:09:54.760 scenario away from Kevin Hogan starting, if you're the Cults 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:56.880 as like desperate as the Colts aren't as bad as 0:09:56.880 --> 0:09:59.080 Scott Tolzines looked, as bad as that room is like 0:09:59.160 --> 0:10:02.079 Why would you even believe that brock Oswader coming in 0:10:02.120 --> 0:10:05.160 there without any practice in that system is any better 0:10:05.200 --> 0:10:07.600 than those guys moving on the stuck without the New 0:10:07.640 --> 0:10:10.439 York Giants. And also news that came out of the 0:10:10.480 --> 0:10:15.080 Monday night game. Odell Beckham goes up to grab a ball, uh, 0:10:15.520 --> 0:10:19.920 grab a pass, gets undercut by a Brown's Uh safety? 0:10:20.000 --> 0:10:22.920 Who is the safety? Mark? Who's the culprit, Buddy Calhoun? No, 0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:25.480 one of you one of Mark's favorites. He's also one 0:10:25.520 --> 0:10:29.920 of Greg Williams favorites. Let's leave it there completely clean. 0:10:30.040 --> 0:10:32.920 Hit by the way, Odell Beckham injures his ankle. He 0:10:33.040 --> 0:10:35.440 ends up going back to the locker room, dropping to 0:10:35.520 --> 0:10:39.400 his knees uh down in the runway behind the in 0:10:39.400 --> 0:10:41.760 the in the catacombs of the building. And now you're 0:10:41.760 --> 0:10:44.040 wondering how serious is it? At first everyone was worried, 0:10:44.080 --> 0:10:46.120 did he blow out his knee? No, it's an ankle injury. 0:10:46.320 --> 0:10:48.240 But how serious is the ankle injury? We don't know. 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:51.520 We know that Beckham was not at practice on Wednesday 0:10:51.559 --> 0:10:55.680 with the Giants, uh per multiple reports uh. And on 0:10:55.800 --> 0:10:59.160 top of that, UM, there's a report out there from 0:10:59.360 --> 0:11:02.200 ESPN Duck come that it is not out of the 0:11:02.280 --> 0:11:04.320 question that Beckham couldn't miss a week or two of 0:11:04.320 --> 0:11:07.720 the regular season. So you know, you wonder. I don't 0:11:07.720 --> 0:11:10.000 think it's been specified what kind of ankle injury? Is 0:11:10.000 --> 0:11:12.760 it a high ankle injury? Whatever? Coach Ben mcahoo would 0:11:12.760 --> 0:11:14.600 not say what type, and he just Today's They say, 0:11:14.679 --> 0:11:17.280 asked him point blank, what's is there any chance he 0:11:17.280 --> 0:11:18.839 wouldn't be there for week one? All he would say 0:11:18.880 --> 0:11:20.520 is it's day to day. It's too far away to know. 0:11:21.000 --> 0:11:23.199 But that would indicate you you would think it's a 0:11:23.240 --> 0:11:26.360 high you would think, which is bad. I mean the 0:11:26.440 --> 0:11:28.360 report was a little soft though too, like there's a 0:11:28.440 --> 0:11:30.319 chance he could miss a week or two, there's a 0:11:30.400 --> 0:11:34.800 chancey one, Well, that's great. Anything wants a stronger room. 0:11:34.840 --> 0:11:36.720 I'm just saying there's a chance I could walk to 0:11:36.720 --> 0:11:39.360 San Diego. I mean, it's like not much of one, 0:11:40.920 --> 0:11:43.040 is that? What's the percentage chance of would be walking? 0:11:44.760 --> 0:11:46.000 You don't have to have someone with a gun to 0:11:46.000 --> 0:11:49.040 say something at stake for you to do that. Where 0:11:49.080 --> 0:11:52.360 would you go? Not a good taco, but not a 0:11:52.360 --> 0:11:54.880 good taco places specific beach. I think you're you would 0:11:55.000 --> 0:11:57.079 need immediately water if you walk from here to San 0:11:57.080 --> 0:11:59.440 Diego before you started to eat tacos a lot of water. 0:11:59.480 --> 0:12:02.319 I feel like it's potentially dangerous to that type of track. 0:12:02.840 --> 0:12:05.480 We worry about you, Greg. I'm in good shape. You 0:12:05.480 --> 0:12:11.960 can handle it. Really is. Two times in twelve minutes. 0:12:11.960 --> 0:12:15.280 Greg is notified us about his physical fitness. Uh. Let's 0:12:15.320 --> 0:12:19.680 move back to some quarterback news. Because the Houston Texans 0:12:20.040 --> 0:12:23.720 have decided on their Week one starter after two preseason games. 0:12:23.720 --> 0:12:27.720 Bill O'Brien uh is sticking to his plan and Tom 0:12:27.800 --> 0:12:31.400 Savage is the starter. Deshaun Watson, their first round pick, 0:12:31.559 --> 0:12:35.120 is the backup. Um. O'Brien confirmed the stance and an 0:12:35.160 --> 0:12:39.520 interview with reporters in Houston on Tuesday. UM So, we 0:12:39.600 --> 0:12:43.880 don't know, uh Greg, if if Savage is somebody that 0:12:43.920 --> 0:12:47.160 will be starting by Halloween, for instance. But all we 0:12:47.200 --> 0:12:49.040 know is that they are, at least at the start 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:51.320 of this thing, they're being a little bit conservative with 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:53.280 their first round pick. Is of the right move? I 0:12:53.320 --> 0:12:57.000 think it is. I think Savage has played well in 0:12:57.000 --> 0:13:01.000 the preseason. By all accounts, he's played well in training camp. 0:13:01.559 --> 0:13:03.520 Bill O'Brien had this plan. This is kind of what 0:13:03.559 --> 0:13:06.079 you're hoping for. This is what didn't happen in Cleveland, 0:13:06.240 --> 0:13:09.800 or maybe isn't happening in Chicago, where the veteran that's 0:13:09.960 --> 0:13:12.720 the placeholder actually plays well and steps up. And I 0:13:12.720 --> 0:13:15.040 think they want to see I Bill O'Brien, for one, 0:13:15.200 --> 0:13:17.640 wants to see what Tom Savage can do. I think 0:13:17.640 --> 0:13:20.400 he believes in Savage. He drafted the kid uh in 0:13:20.520 --> 0:13:23.480 his first year in Houston, and I think they think 0:13:23.480 --> 0:13:25.640 he has potential and most likely he's just you know, 0:13:25.720 --> 0:13:28.280 holding holding the fort for a few weeks. It's never 0:13:28.640 --> 0:13:31.040 the perfect scenario when you'd have to shove a rookie 0:13:31.080 --> 0:13:32.480 and I don't care who it is, even when it's 0:13:32.520 --> 0:13:35.079 Andrew Luck. You'd love to have someone grease the skids 0:13:35.080 --> 0:13:37.200 for half a season, show you what it's like to 0:13:37.200 --> 0:13:40.200 prepare for games from week to week. Tom Savage, who 0:13:40.240 --> 0:13:43.040 knows what his future is in Houston. But Bill O'Brien 0:13:43.200 --> 0:13:44.679 could not have asked for this to play out any 0:13:44.720 --> 0:13:47.959 better because Deshaun Watson did not look day one ready. 0:13:48.000 --> 0:13:50.280 To me, he's he's does some things very well, but 0:13:50.360 --> 0:13:52.000 it's perfect for him to rest for a couple months. 0:13:52.040 --> 0:13:54.199 He will play this season, though, I mean, do we 0:13:54.280 --> 0:13:57.280 have to admit at this point, four years into this bit, 0:13:58.559 --> 0:14:01.840 the Tom Savage you know, week one starter, that's pretty real, 0:14:02.400 --> 0:14:08.480 that's very little as real as it gets. What do 0:14:08.559 --> 0:14:11.240 we need? What do we need to retire the Tom 0:14:11.240 --> 0:14:13.920 Savage Trump? How about this? I know it's completely arbitrary, 0:14:13.960 --> 0:14:15.320 but it's the first thing that popped in my head. 0:14:16.000 --> 0:14:19.000 A single game where he has a one rating in 0:14:19.040 --> 0:14:22.120 a regular season contest. I mean I feel like he's 0:14:22.160 --> 0:14:24.400 crossed certain barriers that would prove to us that he's 0:14:24.400 --> 0:14:27.280 a real human being already. Well, we want to be 0:14:27.360 --> 0:14:29.640 labor the experiment, but there could be new things he 0:14:29.680 --> 0:14:31.520 needs to. Don't forget about the theory we had that 0:14:31.600 --> 0:14:36.480 it was Nick cage Um. They he doesn't look like 0:14:36.960 --> 0:14:41.520 football role and he was a doppelganger scenario, very loose theory. 0:14:41.720 --> 0:14:44.000 Not even a doppelganger because Tom Savage might not be real. 0:14:44.040 --> 0:14:46.360 It would be like a face off scenario type of thing. 0:14:46.960 --> 0:14:51.520 Interesting anyway, moving on, So you know, Mark, you know 0:14:51.720 --> 0:14:54.200 we've been way plugged in on this is Joe Flacco's 0:14:54.240 --> 0:14:57.000 back injury of Fluca. Yeah, I mean this is We've 0:14:57.000 --> 0:14:58.640 been on top of this from the minute. I mean 0:14:58.720 --> 0:15:01.360 this apparent injury happened it's witty word play like this 0:15:01.440 --> 0:15:03.520 is why people keep coming back. This is how we 0:15:03.600 --> 0:15:06.280 got the stitcher in thirteen, guys, this is how we 0:15:06.320 --> 0:15:09.800 got Best New Podcast and twelve a little bit of 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:12.960 an award drought back when RG three was We're like, 0:15:14.200 --> 0:15:17.280 we're like the Marissa Tomay of award winners. It's like, 0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:19.520 in fifteen years we're gonna have a big time come 0:15:19.520 --> 0:15:21.920 back and everyone will be like, hey, where's tom Ay? Ben? 0:15:22.200 --> 0:15:25.520 You should have been around more. Yeah, that actually feels 0:15:25.520 --> 0:15:28.080 like a very real possibility, best case scenario for this 0:15:28.080 --> 0:15:35.520 show anyway, big fan saying that she's talented. Um, Joe 0:15:35.520 --> 0:15:38.720 Flacco's got the injury doesn't look like a fluco because 0:15:39.000 --> 0:15:42.360 he has uh not practiced. He is not gonna sniff 0:15:42.400 --> 0:15:45.600 the preseason. We know that. So again, despite the Ravens 0:15:45.600 --> 0:15:49.560 continuing continuously playing it down and John Harba not really 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:52.920 being big on talking about it in detail, Uh, there's 0:15:53.240 --> 0:15:55.280 questions about whether Joe Flacco is gonna be ready for 0:15:55.280 --> 0:15:56.840 the start of the season. So what do the reporters do. 0:15:56.880 --> 0:16:00.000 They go to Marty Morton Wig, the team's offensive coordinated 0:16:00.320 --> 0:16:02.560 and they ask him for a sound bite. He gives 0:16:02.600 --> 0:16:06.120 them one. They say, hey, Marty, is there a time 0:16:06.400 --> 0:16:08.880 you'd like to see Joe back practicing for you to 0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:12.320 have a comfort level? Marty really cut through all the 0:16:12.360 --> 0:16:14.880 bs and gave us a hard answer, and there's no 0:16:14.880 --> 0:16:21.359 more questions. Time you would like to see Joe practicing 0:16:21.440 --> 0:16:24.080 for you'd ever comfort let? Yeah, well, I think I know, 0:16:24.200 --> 0:16:27.240 and like at least Joe thinks he knows when this 0:16:27.320 --> 0:16:29.560 will happen, so that that way, I think I know, 0:16:29.680 --> 0:16:32.160 and so we think we know, and then and then 0:16:32.200 --> 0:16:35.240 so and look at if it's before that or a 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:37.280 little bit before, it's probably not gonna be much before, 0:16:37.320 --> 0:16:39.520 but maybe a little bit before or a little bit after, 0:16:39.800 --> 0:16:43.160 we'll adjust the plan. And so as long as as 0:16:43.160 --> 0:16:46.320 long as he's back, uh, with a reasonable amount of 0:16:46.320 --> 0:16:49.040 time to prepare, I think we're gonna be just fine. There. Yeah, 0:16:49.200 --> 0:16:51.840 any questions, I mean, this is essentially an underling that 0:16:52.000 --> 0:16:55.000 once the question was asked, realized I need to not 0:16:55.120 --> 0:16:58.760 generate a headline here or provide anything. So you're dancing 0:16:58.760 --> 0:17:00.040 around that. It gets you to the point where of 0:17:00.120 --> 0:17:03.040 the sound bite is going crazy because you've just done 0:17:03.080 --> 0:17:07.160 a who's on first scenario. Yeah, that's fair. We've all 0:17:07.200 --> 0:17:09.960 been there where you're saying something and it's like, shut up, 0:17:10.080 --> 0:17:12.080 shut up, say something different, and all of a sudden, 0:17:12.080 --> 0:17:14.040 you're just you've been talking for forty s Typically, in 0:17:14.080 --> 0:17:17.840 like interpersonal scenarios, they keep saying how confident they are, 0:17:18.320 --> 0:17:21.800 as he keeps not practicing, and as they keep making 0:17:21.840 --> 0:17:25.800 all their previous statements look like lies, essentially because they 0:17:25.800 --> 0:17:27.600 said at one point he's playing in the preseason, they 0:17:27.640 --> 0:17:29.680 said at one point he's not returning three to six weeks. 0:17:29.680 --> 0:17:32.919 It's been a long time. And regardless of okay, he 0:17:33.000 --> 0:17:35.120 let's say he returns to practice next week. But that's 0:17:35.119 --> 0:17:38.359 the best case scenario. I would How could you not 0:17:38.400 --> 0:17:40.480 be worried if you're a Ravens coach, just then he's 0:17:40.520 --> 0:17:44.480 not gonna get hurt again. I'm with you. Uh, Moving 0:17:44.880 --> 0:17:47.400 on hard Knocks. We're not going to do a full 0:17:47.840 --> 0:17:50.359 episode recap of episode three at five, which shared on 0:17:50.400 --> 0:17:53.520 Tuesday night and later in the week and other markets overseas. 0:17:54.760 --> 0:17:57.359 Let's you know, we care about hey, listen, we care 0:17:57.400 --> 0:18:02.239 about our listeners and viewers very much overseas. We just 0:18:02.280 --> 0:18:04.800 don't give an f what the time zone is, don't 0:18:05.119 --> 0:18:07.399 These are two separate situations, and I just want to 0:18:07.400 --> 0:18:09.719 make that clear, don't give an F and second league hardly. 0:18:09.960 --> 0:18:12.960 He could be tested to figure it out. Yeah, yeah, 0:18:13.000 --> 0:18:14.679 you can figure it out. How to skip ahead right 0:18:14.720 --> 0:18:17.119 now if you really didn't want any Yeah, spoiler. This 0:18:17.200 --> 0:18:19.119 probably much of a spoiler though, but there was an 0:18:19.160 --> 0:18:24.760 aspect of Tuesday's episode where um, the ESPN Monday Night 0:18:24.800 --> 0:18:29.400 Crew uh, headed by your boy Jon Gruden, uh, came 0:18:29.440 --> 0:18:33.679 to Bucks camp to meet with players, including Jamis Winston. 0:18:33.720 --> 0:18:37.840 When Winston enters the room, uh, he sees Rex Ryan, 0:18:37.920 --> 0:18:40.399 who is on the ESPN. Like I had forgotten about this. 0:18:40.600 --> 0:18:42.040 He just life moves on and then all of a 0:18:42.040 --> 0:18:44.800 sudden there was Rex popped up. He's he's on ESPN. 0:18:44.800 --> 0:18:48.840 He's an analyst and uh, and let me let's play 0:18:48.920 --> 0:18:50.959 the clip here and I and I just have a 0:18:51.040 --> 0:19:04.440 quick thought as a as a said Jets fan James Man. Yeah, 0:19:04.520 --> 0:19:07.800 well now that I'm a backup, Jamie, here's the thing. Actually, 0:19:08.560 --> 0:19:11.000 nobody won more you did in college. You know, means 0:19:11.000 --> 0:19:14.000 the same damn game. You have everything on this team 0:19:14.040 --> 0:19:16.399 you need to win. You know, I'm jealous that I 0:19:16.400 --> 0:19:19.280 never had a quarterback like you. Unfortunately I got a 0:19:19.359 --> 0:19:23.760 plenty of time to watch it. Okay, he's being self 0:19:23.800 --> 0:19:27.040 deprecating there and uh. And in the actual episode, if 0:19:27.080 --> 0:19:29.960 you watch the whole episode, it turns into at one point, uh, 0:19:30.000 --> 0:19:32.040 it goes from because this is basically a fact finding 0:19:32.040 --> 0:19:36.920 mission for the game telecast, Rex like turns into a 0:19:37.080 --> 0:19:39.800 coach and starts telling Jamis Winston all the things he 0:19:39.840 --> 0:19:41.640 has to do to take his game to the next 0:19:41.720 --> 0:19:44.360 level and gets really passionate, clearly, you know, slips out 0:19:44.400 --> 0:19:46.879 of his this media role he's been forced into. But 0:19:46.920 --> 0:19:49.720 the point I wanted to make was that as somebody 0:19:49.760 --> 0:19:52.239 that studies Hard Knocks very closely, obviously, and you can 0:19:52.280 --> 0:19:56.680 read the episode recaps at NFL dot com slash hard Knocks. Um, 0:19:56.720 --> 0:19:58.760 it was really sad and as a Jets fan to 0:19:58.840 --> 0:20:02.399 see Rex so marginalized in the scene he's back on 0:20:02.480 --> 0:20:05.600 Hard Knocks for the first time in seven years. Uh, 0:20:05.640 --> 0:20:08.960 he's a Hard Knocks legend. He it's the stuff of 0:20:09.080 --> 0:20:12.199 myth if you watch the show. Yeah, he was. He 0:20:12.280 --> 0:20:16.000 was gregarious, he was foul mouth, he was uh, just entertaining. 0:20:16.119 --> 0:20:18.960 It was perfect his performance in that season, and it 0:20:19.000 --> 0:20:22.080 was one of the more exciting, if ultimately fruitless times 0:20:22.119 --> 0:20:24.399