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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast,
Speaker 1: presented by New Era. My name is Dan Hanss and
Speaker 1: I am joined by room filled with some heroes, Mark
Speaker 1: Sessler and Gregg Rows. It thought, what's up boys who
Speaker 1: put on weight? What is that? That feels like, you know,
Speaker 1: an unmitigated jab but nobody that's how. That's how I
Speaker 1: I mean, we got old beach body over here, Mark Sessler,
Speaker 1: beach body coach. I was watching randomly a show from
Speaker 1: like two decembers ago. We all look a little bit
Speaker 1: less insane than we did then in terms of better
Speaker 1: we were pasty disasters two decembers ago. Yeah, I've been
Speaker 1: rounding a lot. I mean, I'm in good shape. Ione's
Speaker 1: looking good. I'm where I am, which is not in
Speaker 1: a great place, but not like is some type of
Speaker 1: situation where they're gonna have to like send me away
Speaker 1: to a camp or something. I think if someone wrote
Speaker 1: some human in the building created that line about the
Speaker 1: four of us, and I don't appreciate it. We're onto you,
Speaker 1: Patrick Laban, December December is tricky, though you mentioned December
Speaker 1: December is after like at the end of a long
Speaker 1: season where there's uh, there's food that they're just feeding you,
Speaker 1: like uh, like you're on in some type of factory
Speaker 1: and it's just like on a conveyor belt, but into
Speaker 1: your body as you keep writing about and by then
Speaker 1: I'm just asked, I want like an assassin's bullet to
Speaker 1: take me out in the middle of the the middle
Speaker 1: of December. There is always a big time difference, like
Speaker 1: they'll be those stories like oh, look how good Eric
Speaker 1: Mangini looks after the you know, the off season, he
Speaker 1: really got in shape, and then cut to like week
Speaker 1: fift just is in a different place. Then that's one
Speaker 1: way to put it. Uh yeah, good show today. A
Speaker 1: lot to get to today. This is of course our
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Speaker 1: Everything a fourteen hour difference or so, um, big show today,
Speaker 1: Big show today. We are going to talk about some
Speaker 1: QB announcements. Oh yeah, they're starting to pile up a
Speaker 1: little bit here. Um. So we're gonna go through some
Speaker 1: decisions being made as we get ready for Week three
Speaker 1: of the preseason. That's when teams get serious. Also, we're
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Speaker 1: the air when Odell Beckham got hurt on Monday Night
Speaker 1: against the Browns. Uh So Claibon will join us at
Speaker 1: the bottom of the show to talk about that. But
Speaker 1: before we do anything else, we say hello to the
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Speaker 1: feed her so but you know that she's just dipping
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Speaker 1: things or you know, suggest anything. I mean, she's coming
Speaker 1: in hot, like it the bizarro Sydney on that level,
Speaker 1: where a bit of a firecracker and and you gotta
Speaker 1: you gotta see what's gonna happen next. Going to keep
Speaker 1: her verbiage short, but behind the scenes operating in a
Speaker 1: very menacing way. Potentially, she's like she's like called up
Speaker 1: from double A and she's throwing fastballs at a batter's chin. Right, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like, whooa, don't go don't aim at the head.
Speaker 1: It don't buzz the tower. If you're gonna go near,
Speaker 1: maybe hit him in the side, get him in the ribs,
Speaker 1: get him in the buttocks. Uh, stay away from the
Speaker 1: old bean ball. She said, No, that's the only way
Speaker 1: I know how to play. This is all checking out
Speaker 1: a little bit, but like, guys, be careful. I could
Speaker 1: change like the entire pitch of your voice if I
Speaker 1: don't like what is can we absolutely trust that you
Speaker 1: would do that? Yes, you should. Let's do some news.
Speaker 1: I'm scared. I'm scared of our producer, Coach Jackson and
Speaker 1: coach the I can't say enough great things about those guys.
Speaker 1: So whatever they decide, I you know, support one. Well,
Speaker 1: that's good brock Oswidler, because things are not trending well
Speaker 1: for you in Cleveland. Uh, brock Oswidler, who as late
Speaker 1: as Monday afternoon, if if you were watching Total Access,
Speaker 1: the flagship show of NFL network, Ian Rappaport did a
Speaker 1: live report right before the Browns and Giants kicked off,
Speaker 1: sing that brock Osweiler basically has the starting job for
Speaker 1: the Browns locked up. He just needs to not blow
Speaker 1: it against the Giants. And brock Osler then went out
Speaker 1: on the field and played extremely poorly, which shouldn't surprise
Speaker 1: anyone because he's a poor quarterback. Let's be honest, I'm
Speaker 1: trying to be mean here, but the result of that
Speaker 1: poor play led to Brown's head coach Hugh Jackson announcing
Speaker 1: on Wednesday that rookie Deshaun Kaiser will start in the
Speaker 1: team's third preseason game, against the Bucks, and Uh, this
Speaker 1: is even crazier. No Brock at all in the third game, Mark, Uh,
Speaker 1: break it down well, I mean, of all the quarterback
Speaker 1: announcements that have you know, fluttered about the last couple
Speaker 1: of days, this one I find surprising. Although I think
Speaker 1: all of us would view Deshaun Kaiser as the better
Speaker 1: project at quarterback, He's still incredibly inexperienced and has barely
Speaker 1: played in the NFL, and yet you go with the
Speaker 1: player with more potential. I think we know what we
Speaker 1: have in Brock Osweidler, and you're sitting him at this
Speaker 1: point because I in two, because a couple of things
Speaker 1: could happen. A either Kaiser really really stinks up the
Speaker 1: joint in this in this Week three match up against
Speaker 1: the Bucks, and you potentially still could go back to
Speaker 1: Osweiler and call, hey, rookie still needs to learn or
Speaker 1: be you shop Osweiler. You're still trying to shop him,
Speaker 1: and you don't get him hurt. You just keep him
Speaker 1: out of harm's way. Essentially, why put both potential starters
Speaker 1: in this game? I find it hard to believe there's
Speaker 1: any scenario where Osweiler starts Week one. I could be wrong,
Speaker 1: I'm just guessing, but I think you're making a choice here.
Speaker 1: As much as I respect, you know, our NFL Network
Speaker 1: insider I and Rap Barts saying that it was his chance.
Speaker 1: Not he played fourteen snaps in that game, brock Oswelder,
Speaker 1: It's like nine passing places. Not like he even got
Speaker 1: much of a chance. If you look at what they
Speaker 1: did in the preseason, he only played what was of
Speaker 1: four drives five drives, wasn't on the field that much.
Speaker 1: Kaiser was the guy they were getting ready in this game,
Speaker 1: and so I think I think the chip has sailed
Speaker 1: on brock Osweiler as a dental starter. I think it
Speaker 1: goes back to the idea that I was thinking about
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago when we were talking about
Speaker 1: some predictions and when he was working with the second
Speaker 1: team exclusively and uh Oswidler, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: he was the starter in the first preseason game. That
Speaker 1: was a scratch your head moment. And then there was
Speaker 1: the week two and it seemed like he had this opportunity.
Speaker 1: But all it really feels like now is that they
Speaker 1: were putting him on a platform and they're trying to
Speaker 1: trade him. I think they would love to trade brock Osweidler,
Speaker 1: and even if it means shedding half of the sixteen
Speaker 1: million dollars or something like that to get him off
Speaker 1: the books. But what they needed him to do is
Speaker 1: cooperate a little bit, and in both the first game
Speaker 1: and then his limiting playing limited playing the second game,
Speaker 1: he did nothing positive. So what value does brock Oswiler
Speaker 1: have on the trade market. The one thing I'd say
Speaker 1: is that whatever happened in a in a couple of
Speaker 1: series with Cleveland, I don't think the most general managers
Speaker 1: out there would say, hey, suddenly, he's a completely different
Speaker 1: player than he's been. He's he's a player with a
Speaker 1: lot of liabilities. The thing with Cleveland, I mean they've
Speaker 1: already won this scenario. They got a second round pick
Speaker 1: from the Texans for the Ostwelder thing, with money they
Speaker 1: didn't mind spending, if they even get if they if
Speaker 1: some team gets into dire straits and they trade him
Speaker 1: for a conditional six or seventh and cut the salary
Speaker 1: in half, it's another big win for They're not They're
Speaker 1: not cutting a salary in half. I don't think they'll
Speaker 1: find Well, they talked about every day. That's what they wanted.
Speaker 1: Their trade talks of him, that them saying they'll pay
Speaker 1: part of the salary. I get a team to take
Speaker 1: sixteen million. No, I'm saying a team would only take
Speaker 1: on Brock Osweilder if they I don't think any team
Speaker 1: would give up anything for Brock Oswelder to start. But
Speaker 1: if if I was wrong and they did, they're only
Speaker 1: taken on let's say four million, five million, do There's
Speaker 1: no way a team is gonna play pay Brock Osweller
Speaker 1: eight million dollars right now. Still a win for Cleveland.
Speaker 1: You know they got what they needed out of it.
Speaker 1: You know it would be even better for Cleveland is
Speaker 1: if Ryan Griggson was still the GM in Indianapolis, maybe
Speaker 1: you could have spent that would take back over to
Speaker 1: the cult, could retrade frind Richardson to the car. It's
Speaker 1: a win for the It's always been a win for
Speaker 1: the Browns. It was trending towards a brown Z type
Speaker 1: thing to have him starting. But I think what they're
Speaker 1: doing here makes sense and it's smart. Black Osweiler is no, no,
Speaker 1: not even a bridge. Let's be honest. He's he's just
Speaker 1: Brock t get the kid in there if you think
Speaker 1: he can handle it. There's no reason to think he
Speaker 1: Brock would be better playing quarterback than de Shaun Kaiser
Speaker 1: or Cody Kessler, and he has no He obviously has
Speaker 1: no future in Cleveland. Kessler still does. So that's why
Speaker 1: I said, I can't see any scenario if for some reason,
Speaker 1: Kaiser really shows that they believe he can't start. And
Speaker 1: my mind is they've basically made their mind up. Kaiser
Speaker 1: is going to be the week, but they have to
Speaker 1: be expecting some rocky play, right for some reason they
Speaker 1: change their mind. They have Cody Kessler, and I think
Speaker 1: he'd start. Um, Cody Kessler is also there. So as
Speaker 1: we talked about, let's not call it a deep quarterback situation,
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's a Harry they could say, is
Speaker 1: our backup if they ever found a way to move Brock,
Speaker 1: they wouldn't be totally vulnerable with And they're like they're
Speaker 1: like a twisted like a hamstring injury in a flu
Speaker 1: scenario away from Kevin Hogan starting, if you're the Cults
Speaker 1: as like desperate as the Colts aren't as bad as
Speaker 1: Scott Tolzines looked, as bad as that room is like
Speaker 1: Why would you even believe that brock Oswader coming in
Speaker 1: there without any practice in that system is any better
Speaker 1: than those guys moving on the stuck without the New
Speaker 1: York Giants. And also news that came out of the
Speaker 1: Monday night game. Odell Beckham goes up to grab a ball, uh,
Speaker 1: grab a pass, gets undercut by a Brown's Uh safety?
Speaker 1: Who is the safety? Mark? Who's the culprit, Buddy Calhoun? No,
Speaker 1: one of you one of Mark's favorites. He's also one
Speaker 1: of Greg Williams favorites. Let's leave it there completely clean.
Speaker 1: Hit by the way, Odell Beckham injures his ankle. He
Speaker 1: ends up going back to the locker room, dropping to
Speaker 1: his knees uh down in the runway behind the in
Speaker 1: the in the catacombs of the building. And now you're
Speaker 1: wondering how serious is it? At first everyone was worried,
Speaker 1: did he blow out his knee? No, it's an ankle injury.
Speaker 1: But how serious is the ankle injury? We don't know.
Speaker 1: We know that Beckham was not at practice on Wednesday
Speaker 1: with the Giants, uh per multiple reports uh. And on
Speaker 1: top of that, UM, there's a report out there from
Speaker 1: ESPN Duck come that it is not out of the
Speaker 1: question that Beckham couldn't miss a week or two of
Speaker 1: the regular season. So you know, you wonder. I don't
Speaker 1: think it's been specified what kind of ankle injury? Is
Speaker 1: it a high ankle injury? Whatever? Coach Ben mcahoo would
Speaker 1: not say what type, and he just Today's They say,
Speaker 1: asked him point blank, what's is there any chance he
Speaker 1: wouldn't be there for week one? All he would say
Speaker 1: is it's day to day. It's too far away to know.
Speaker 1: But that would indicate you you would think it's a
Speaker 1: high you would think, which is bad. I mean the
Speaker 1: report was a little soft though too, like there's a
Speaker 1: chance he could miss a week or two, there's a
Speaker 1: chancey one, Well, that's great. Anything wants a stronger room.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying there's a chance I could walk to
Speaker 1: San Diego. I mean, it's like not much of one,
Speaker 1: is that? What's the percentage chance of would be walking?
Speaker 1: You don't have to have someone with a gun to
Speaker 1: say something at stake for you to do that. Where
Speaker 1: would you go? Not a good taco, but not a
Speaker 1: good taco places specific beach. I think you're you would
Speaker 1: need immediately water if you walk from here to San
Speaker 1: Diego before you started to eat tacos a lot of water.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's potentially dangerous to that type of track.
Speaker 1: We worry about you, Greg. I'm in good shape. You
Speaker 1: can handle it. Really is. Two times in twelve minutes.
Speaker 1: Greg is notified us about his physical fitness. Uh. Let's
Speaker 1: move back to some quarterback news. Because the Houston Texans
Speaker 1: have decided on their Week one starter after two preseason games.
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien uh is sticking to his plan and Tom
Speaker 1: Savage is the starter. Deshaun Watson, their first round pick,
Speaker 1: is the backup. Um. O'Brien confirmed the stance and an
Speaker 1: interview with reporters in Houston on Tuesday. UM So, we
Speaker 1: don't know, uh Greg, if if Savage is somebody that
Speaker 1: will be starting by Halloween, for instance. But all we
Speaker 1: know is that they are, at least at the start
Speaker 1: of this thing, they're being a little bit conservative with
Speaker 1: their first round pick. Is of the right move? I
Speaker 1: think it is. I think Savage has played well in
Speaker 1: the preseason. By all accounts, he's played well in training camp.
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien had this plan. This is kind of what
Speaker 1: you're hoping for. This is what didn't happen in Cleveland,
Speaker 1: or maybe isn't happening in Chicago, where the veteran that's
Speaker 1: the placeholder actually plays well and steps up. And I
Speaker 1: think they want to see I Bill O'Brien, for one,
Speaker 1: wants to see what Tom Savage can do. I think
Speaker 1: he believes in Savage. He drafted the kid uh in
Speaker 1: his first year in Houston, and I think they think
Speaker 1: he has potential and most likely he's just you know,
Speaker 1: holding holding the fort for a few weeks. It's never
Speaker 1: the perfect scenario when you'd have to shove a rookie
Speaker 1: and I don't care who it is, even when it's
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck. You'd love to have someone grease the skids
Speaker 1: for half a season, show you what it's like to
Speaker 1: prepare for games from week to week. Tom Savage, who
Speaker 1: knows what his future is in Houston. But Bill O'Brien
Speaker 1: could not have asked for this to play out any
Speaker 1: better because Deshaun Watson did not look day one ready.
Speaker 1: To me, he's he's does some things very well, but
Speaker 1: it's perfect for him to rest for a couple months.
Speaker 1: He will play this season, though, I mean, do we
Speaker 1: have to admit at this point, four years into this bit,
Speaker 1: the Tom Savage you know, week one starter, that's pretty real,
Speaker 1: that's very little as real as it gets. What do
Speaker 1: we need? What do we need to retire the Tom
Speaker 1: Savage Trump? How about this? I know it's completely arbitrary,
Speaker 1: but it's the first thing that popped in my head.
Speaker 1: A single game where he has a one rating in
Speaker 1: a regular season contest. I mean I feel like he's
Speaker 1: crossed certain barriers that would prove to us that he's
Speaker 1: a real human being already. Well, we want to be
Speaker 1: labor the experiment, but there could be new things he
Speaker 1: needs to. Don't forget about the theory we had that
Speaker 1: it was Nick cage Um. They he doesn't look like
Speaker 1: football role and he was a doppelganger scenario, very loose theory.
Speaker 1: Not even a doppelganger because Tom Savage might not be real.
Speaker 1: It would be like a face off scenario type of thing.
Speaker 1: Interesting anyway, moving on, So you know, Mark, you know
Speaker 1: we've been way plugged in on this is Joe Flacco's
Speaker 1: back injury of Fluca. Yeah, I mean this is We've
Speaker 1: been on top of this from the minute. I mean
Speaker 1: this apparent injury happened it's witty word play like this
Speaker 1: is why people keep coming back. This is how we
Speaker 1: got the stitcher in thirteen, guys, this is how we
Speaker 1: got Best New Podcast and twelve a little bit of
Speaker 1: an award drought back when RG three was We're like,
Speaker 1: we're like the Marissa Tomay of award winners. It's like,
Speaker 1: in fifteen years we're gonna have a big time come
Speaker 1: back and everyone will be like, hey, where's tom Ay? Ben?
Speaker 1: You should have been around more. Yeah, that actually feels
Speaker 1: like a very real possibility, best case scenario for this
Speaker 1: show anyway, big fan saying that she's talented. Um, Joe
Speaker 1: Flacco's got the injury doesn't look like a fluco because
Speaker 1: he has uh not practiced. He is not gonna sniff
Speaker 1: the preseason. We know that. So again, despite the Ravens
Speaker 1: continuing continuously playing it down and John Harba not really
Speaker 1: being big on talking about it in detail, Uh, there's
Speaker 1: questions about whether Joe Flacco is gonna be ready for
Speaker 1: the start of the season. So what do the reporters do.
Speaker 1: They go to Marty Morton Wig, the team's offensive coordinated
Speaker 1: and they ask him for a sound bite. He gives
Speaker 1: them one. They say, hey, Marty, is there a time
Speaker 1: you'd like to see Joe back practicing for you to
Speaker 1: have a comfort level? Marty really cut through all the
Speaker 1: bs and gave us a hard answer, and there's no
Speaker 1: more questions. Time you would like to see Joe practicing
Speaker 1: for you'd ever comfort let? Yeah, well, I think I know,
Speaker 1: and like at least Joe thinks he knows when this
Speaker 1: will happen, so that that way, I think I know,
Speaker 1: and so we think we know, and then and then
Speaker 1: so and look at if it's before that or a
Speaker 1: little bit before, it's probably not gonna be much before,
Speaker 1: but maybe a little bit before or a little bit after,
Speaker 1: we'll adjust the plan. And so as long as as
Speaker 1: long as he's back, uh, with a reasonable amount of
Speaker 1: time to prepare, I think we're gonna be just fine. There. Yeah,
Speaker 1: any questions, I mean, this is essentially an underling that
Speaker 1: once the question was asked, realized I need to not
Speaker 1: generate a headline here or provide anything. So you're dancing
Speaker 1: around that. It gets you to the point where of
Speaker 1: the sound bite is going crazy because you've just done
Speaker 1: a who's on first scenario. Yeah, that's fair. We've all
Speaker 1: been there where you're saying something and it's like, shut up,
Speaker 1: shut up, say something different, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: you're just you've been talking for forty s Typically, in
Speaker 1: like interpersonal scenarios, they keep saying how confident they are,
Speaker 1: as he keeps not practicing, and as they keep making
Speaker 1: all their previous statements look like lies, essentially because they
Speaker 1: said at one point he's playing in the preseason, they
Speaker 1: said at one point he's not returning three to six weeks.
Speaker 1: It's been a long time. And regardless of okay, he
Speaker 1: let's say he returns to practice next week. But that's
Speaker 1: the best case scenario. I would How could you not
Speaker 1: be worried if you're a Ravens coach, just then he's
Speaker 1: not gonna get hurt again. I'm with you. Uh, Moving
Speaker 1: on hard Knocks. We're not going to do a full
Speaker 1: episode recap of episode three at five, which shared on
Speaker 1: Tuesday night and later in the week and other markets overseas.
Speaker 1: Let's you know, we care about hey, listen, we care
Speaker 1: about our listeners and viewers very much overseas. We just
Speaker 1: don't give an f what the time zone is, don't
Speaker 1: These are two separate situations, and I just want to
Speaker 1: make that clear, don't give an F and second league hardly.
Speaker 1: He could be tested to figure it out. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you can figure it out. How to skip ahead right
Speaker 1: now if you really didn't want any Yeah, spoiler. This
Speaker 1: probably much of a spoiler though, but there was an
Speaker 1: aspect of Tuesday's episode where um, the ESPN Monday Night
Speaker 1: Crew uh, headed by your boy Jon Gruden, uh, came
Speaker 1: to Bucks camp to meet with players, including Jamis Winston.
Speaker 1: When Winston enters the room, uh, he sees Rex Ryan,
Speaker 1: who is on the ESPN. Like I had forgotten about this.
Speaker 1: He just life moves on and then all of a
Speaker 1: sudden there was Rex popped up. He's he's on ESPN.
Speaker 1: He's an analyst and uh, and let me let's play
Speaker 1: the clip here and I and I just have a
Speaker 1: quick thought as a as a said Jets fan James Man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well now that I'm a backup, Jamie, here's the thing. Actually,
Speaker 1: nobody won more you did in college. You know, means
Speaker 1: the same damn game. You have everything on this team
Speaker 1: you need to win. You know, I'm jealous that I
Speaker 1: never had a quarterback like you. Unfortunately I got a
Speaker 1: plenty of time to watch it. Okay, he's being self
Speaker 1: deprecating there and uh. And in the actual episode, if
Speaker 1: you watch the whole episode, it turns into at one point, uh,
Speaker 1: it goes from because this is basically a fact finding
Speaker 1: mission for the game telecast, Rex like turns into a
Speaker 1: coach and starts telling Jamis Winston all the things he
Speaker 1: has to do to take his game to the next
Speaker 1: level and gets really passionate, clearly, you know, slips out
Speaker 1: of his this media role he's been forced into. But
Speaker 1: the point I wanted to make was that as somebody
Speaker 1: that studies Hard Knocks very closely, obviously, and you can
Speaker 1: read the episode recaps at NFL dot com slash hard Knocks. Um,
Speaker 1: it was really sad and as a Jets fan to
Speaker 1: see Rex so marginalized in the scene he's back on
Speaker 1: Hard Knocks for the first time in seven years. Uh,
Speaker 1: he's a Hard Knocks legend. He it's the stuff of
Speaker 1: myth if you watch the show. Yeah, he was. He
Speaker 1: was gregarious, he was foul mouth, he was uh, just entertaining.
Speaker 1: It was perfect his performance in that season, and it
Speaker 1: was one of the more exciting, if ultimately fruitless times
Speaker 1: for the Jets. And then to see him now seven
Speaker 1: years later, Um, Jon Gruden's backup guy. He calls himself
Speaker 1: a backup. It reminded me of and Connor and I
Speaker 1: were talking about this, like it reminded me of like
Speaker 1: a guy that ruled his high school and then like
Speaker 1: he comes back seven years later and he's like the
Speaker 1: gym teacher. It's just kind of like, Oh, I can't
Speaker 1: think of a coach that I'd rather have huddled up
Speaker 1: with my quarterback to teach him how to raise that
Speaker 1: position level of play. But but but he is right,
Speaker 1: he didn't. He never did have a quarterback like Jameis Winson.
Speaker 1: But I don't know if that would have made a difference. Well,
Speaker 1: they would have. They would have potentially wherever he was
Speaker 1: that they would have met pre draft process and probably
Speaker 1: got to know each other pretty well at that point, right,
Speaker 1: And I think Rex he's not even gonna try to
Speaker 1: hide how much he misses the game, and Itch is
Speaker 1: itching to get back. So we'll see how this ESPN
Speaker 1: role goes. Part of the reason he was there is
Speaker 1: because he's practicing doing color analysts work because he's gonna
Speaker 1: be doing the Monday night football doubleheader. So I think
Speaker 1: they were there practicing doing the game, not even on air,
Speaker 1: and we'll see I I just can't imagine he's going
Speaker 1: to get that much juice from being an announcer. I
Speaker 1: think he'll be someone's assistant or a coordinator next. I'm
Speaker 1: with you on the timeline, but I honestly think if
Speaker 1: I was excited about potentially seeing Jake Cutler called games,
Speaker 1: Rex has annoyed me a thousand times over. But I
Speaker 1: think he'll be fun to watch. Oh, I love that game,
Speaker 1: by the way, simeon Rivers End of the Week, week
Speaker 1: one late night Denver. I love that week when doubleheaders
Speaker 1: ending at one of the Rivers two Titans finally collide.
Speaker 1: I guess I know you're I guess I know your answer, guys,
Speaker 1: But I did post a poll because Connor and or
Speaker 1: Connor Or and I have a a vodka wager on
Speaker 1: the line about Rex Ryan. I say he'll return in
Speaker 1: some capacity as an NFL coach. Connor thinks it's done,
Speaker 1: kind of thinks that either he's going to college or
Speaker 1: he's kind of like run out of chances and he's
Speaker 1: done and you're not gonna see him on the sidelines again.
Speaker 1: Almost people voted fifty or say that Rex will return
Speaker 1: on my end of things, so good news for Danny
Speaker 1: and Tito's potentially, but you guys both think he'll be
Speaker 1: back as well in some capacity. I like the college
Speaker 1: idea because if you're Rex, you've had to move around
Speaker 1: a couple of times at this point in another latching
Speaker 1: on as a d C. That could be a one
Speaker 1: or two year gig to college. He could plug in
Speaker 1: and be a really good college coach, fit an atmosphere
Speaker 1: and be there for fifteen years. But yeah, that make
Speaker 1: that makes some sense, and you can be the head guy.
Speaker 1: I just think he loves football so much that one
Speaker 1: way or another, I think he would accept being a
Speaker 1: coordinator or a linebackers coach if if it came to it.
Speaker 1: Together About Cruden though, too, I think, well may, but
Speaker 1: I think a linebacker a positional coach job he won't take.
Speaker 1: But I did use this example when Connor and I
Speaker 1: were talking about it. He might not be able to
Speaker 1: get a defensive coordinator job immediately, but he could to
Speaker 1: me work his way back there quickly, and he'll he'll
Speaker 1: get the The first name that came to mind was
Speaker 1: Greg Williams when he came back to the Titans. I
Speaker 1: was like, what what ridiculous title did they give them
Speaker 1: to satiate his ego and get him back in the league.
Speaker 1: And that title was get Ready, get Ready, here comes
Speaker 1: senior Senior assistant slash defense. Yeah. I can see the
Speaker 1: piston head exactly. I mean, they'll find a way to
Speaker 1: you know, a piece. Would you really if you're unless
Speaker 1: you were a super alpha male, empowered head coach, do
Speaker 1: you really want Rex Ryan as one of your coordinators
Speaker 1: From a personnel from a personality standpoint, this is a
Speaker 1: humbling time for rend Maybe he comes back and is
Speaker 1: little down. A couple of pegs in the last few
Speaker 1: years have not been easy on him, by the way,
Speaker 1: last after some offensive scheme didn't work either. It has
Speaker 1: to be someone that maybe worked with him before. But
Speaker 1: it's not like Rex has like a coaching tree of
Speaker 1: guys who have gotten head jobs. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't know Lrvin Lewis or those Petton still get a
Speaker 1: little Anthony Lynn flip a ru there. Mike Petton still
Speaker 1: living in the treehouse overlooking Brown's practice. That's that's unkind
Speaker 1: it's uncalled for. So well, Mike Petting friends over here,
Speaker 1: How dare you that was uncalled for. Did he get
Speaker 1: a job? He is, He is in search of one
Speaker 1: still and I think he's a candidate to get a
Speaker 1: college job at some point too. He's getting paid though
Speaker 1: by well that's the family. There are probably there are
Speaker 1: roughly you know, twenty to thirty coaches out there that
Speaker 1: are probably on the beach because they're still getting paid
Speaker 1: by Cleveland. All right, let's move on. Now, it's time
Speaker 1: for training camp. Spotlight presented of course by our friends
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Speaker 1: seem like they could be very good people. Their hats
Speaker 1: and they're giving obviously great. I mean, they're exploding, is
Speaker 1: what they are. These hats just multiply every week. Here's
Speaker 1: the left Bell deal. This came this became official on Tuesday,
Speaker 1: uh that he is going to report to the Steelers
Speaker 1: on September one, U ending. I guess it's not technically
Speaker 1: a holdout, um because he didn't have to be here.
Speaker 1: He's unsigned, he's not unschnically on the team. So anyway,
Speaker 1: he will report to the team on September one, and
Speaker 1: that is not coincidentally after the third preseason game or
Speaker 1: the fourth the final preseason game. Which by the way,
Speaker 1: I don't I don't want to cycle back real quick.
Speaker 1: But another another example, the Odell Beckham situation. Get these
Speaker 1: guys off the field for these preseason games, especially your
Speaker 1: star players. What is there to gain, especially guy who's
Speaker 1: not does not have a long term contract you know
Speaker 1: under his belt right now, What is there to gain? Anyway?
Speaker 1: So Bell will be back with the team September one.
Speaker 1: Uh So, let's take a look now at the running
Speaker 1: back situation for the Steelers. Mark your thoughts on that room.
Speaker 1: They got a nice little rookie there too. I think
Speaker 1: you add James Connery. They like Fitzgerald to san to,
Speaker 1: you know, he's someone they've leaned on for a couple
Speaker 1: of years. It really the way the timing this worked out,
Speaker 1: that just is anyone surprised on any level. Lean Bell
Speaker 1: rolls in exactly when I think most of us thought
Speaker 1: it would potentially happen, and it is. And as long
Speaker 1: as he's kept himself in premier shape, which I would imagine,
Speaker 1: then I don't really think we need to worry much
Speaker 1: about fitz Toussant and James Conner. You know, for a
Speaker 1: big chunk of this season that is their workhorse. Well,
Speaker 1: you have to wonder he's gonna have about one padded practice,
Speaker 1: someone pointed out before the season starts, and only have
Speaker 1: about four practices total. That's not much so at a
Speaker 1: position where I think that's different than if he were
Speaker 1: a quarter Bright. So they're they're at Cleveland week one.
Speaker 1: It's not a huge break for the Browns, but I
Speaker 1: don't think you're getting the full Leve Bell experience that week.
Speaker 1: And this whole thing of like announcing when he's coming
Speaker 1: back has been strange. It's put his teammates in weird situations.
Speaker 1: I found it very interesting on Wednesday that Ben Roethlisberger
Speaker 1: um was asked about Levan Bell and he had said
Speaker 1: weeks ago that he sent Bell to text messages and
Speaker 1: Bell never responded, and then he he updated that today
Speaker 1: to say, yeah, love Love still has never So if
Speaker 1: I'm Ben Roethlisberger, why are you putting that business out there?
Speaker 1: You're making yourself look like a little bit of a
Speaker 1: look to it, almost like he's trying to make love
Speaker 1: Bell look bad. But I see it, and I look
Speaker 1: at it like, hey, we kind of know love Bell
Speaker 1: has been in touch with some of these offensive linemen
Speaker 1: that's not showing you be one much respect. We have
Speaker 1: people in this company. If you text them, they don't
Speaker 1: text back either, So who is that? Plenty of people,
Speaker 1: a lot of people. Some people don't return texts. Okay,
Speaker 1: is that a shot at one of us? And I
Speaker 1: know not at all. In the three of us text
Speaker 1: each other along with West, more than any people I've
Speaker 1: ever known in my entire life, So certainly not a
Speaker 1: shot at us. Too much texting. But yeah, that made
Speaker 1: Ben look a little smaller a little bit. And uh,
Speaker 1: you know what that was, guys, that was to call
Speaker 1: that training camp spotlight presented but not better. I thought
Speaker 1: it was really good where it's got to be pleased
Speaker 1: with that. Uh, the monitoring closely, you know, I'm not
Speaker 1: thrilled because my desk. You know, if you're watching on video,
Speaker 1: you would know this. But the for the you know,
Speaker 1: I'm in a different spot today because West isn't here
Speaker 1: and it has been part of my contract to have
Speaker 1: the Patriots hat in front of me and that's not
Speaker 1: the case today. Very tough situation to spot for Tim
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Speaker 1: here we go very excited. Um now the Segond we're
Speaker 1: about to do. Let me first set up the segment.
Speaker 1: The name of this segment is Total World Blurbs from
Speaker 1: the Future. All right, very good, off to a good
Speaker 1: start here, Uh and uh are a good temposey behind
Speaker 1: the glass again showing her whiles in a big spot.
Speaker 1: Very very talented, very um. All right, here we go. Now.
Speaker 1: Everyone uses a Road a World, everybody. If you don't,
Speaker 1: If you don't use it, you're a lying piece of garbage. Okay,
Speaker 1: because more if you like fantasy, you use Road to World.
Speaker 1: You can use other stuff like NFL dot Com. We
Speaker 1: have a lot of great writers on NFL dot com
Speaker 1: in the Fantasy Realm, nice podcast, all that stuff. But
Speaker 1: you're gonna use Road a World for news, Yeah, for
Speaker 1: fantasy news for like, But how about the old juicer
Speaker 1: in a in a in a spot. If I want
Speaker 1: to catch up on what's just going on in the league,
Speaker 1: sometimes I'll just pop over the Road a World right
Speaker 1: there too, great mobile app two, very easy to use. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is really working out well for the Road to
Speaker 1: World people. So what what they're famous for. They're famous
Speaker 1: for their quick blurbs. You get right to it. Greg
Speaker 1: knows all about it. He is the founder of Rhodal World.
Speaker 1: Built it brick by brick. That's not HTML. At least
Speaker 1: he built that, did not build that did work there
Speaker 1: for about nine years. You built the structure where you
Speaker 1: worked a founding father. Founding father. I guess I mean
Speaker 1: that makes me sound like Ben Franklin or something. Uh So, yeah, so,
Speaker 1: uh Greg's here and that's cool, But I do want
Speaker 1: to since Greg's been out of the game a little bit,
Speaker 1: We're gonna write some road World blurbs from the future,
Speaker 1: and I thought maybe we could use some guidance someone
Speaker 1: that's a little more let's you know, relevant in that
Speaker 1: company at this point. Nothing personal Greg, uh so. Um,
Speaker 1: I reached out to our friend of the pod, Evan Silva,
Speaker 1: the big Fish, and you do when you're trying to
Speaker 1: write a Rhotal World news blurb, but you have to
Speaker 1: find some blurb worthy news. Let's go to Adam Schuester's
Speaker 1: Twitter feed. Ter tweeted that such developed is one the
Speaker 1: brown starting to tight end job over David and Joku
Speaker 1: and Randall Telford. Schefter has not actually tweeted this, but
Speaker 1: this is what I dream about, and I know quiet
Speaker 1: Storm dreams about Chefter tweeting. So for this specific exercise,
Speaker 1: let's pretend Chefter tweeted it. We run into our admin
Speaker 1: and we pull up set the valves Rotor World news page.
Speaker 1: Adam Schefter reports set the VOW has won the brown
Speaker 1: starting tight end job. That's our top line. We're keeping
Speaker 1: it simple. We create a headline on the site the
Speaker 1: VOW beats out in Joku for starting pe job. And
Speaker 1: then we moved on to the opinion portion. These are
Speaker 1: the blue letters down below where we add some stats
Speaker 1: or context where our opinion about this player and perhaps
Speaker 1: this fantasy football value. Um beautiful, Yeah, I mean just
Speaker 1: go Are you curious what that actual write up would be?
Speaker 1: If I'm very curious, well, I'd love to see, if
Speaker 1: you know. From the from the words of Evans Sylvan,
Speaker 1: here's what we're going to go with for the Athenian section.
Speaker 1: A spark freak genius who played college ball at Princeton
Speaker 1: then completely annihilated his pro day in two thousand sixteen
Speaker 1: with an absurd vertical leap and a cornerback like six
Speaker 1: point nine six three cone times. Devalveane laps around in
Speaker 1: Joku from the moment the hype rookie arrived in Barria,
Speaker 1: creating cabinies of preseason separations. Despite Brock the heist Oswiler's
Speaker 1: inability to connect Devlove Gronky. In August, play Walk tak
Speaker 1: in as one of this year's premier Fantasy Sleepers. If
Speaker 1: DeValve is on your leaked waiver wire, don't walk to
Speaker 1: your computer to pick him up. Run. I love it.
Speaker 1: So that's how you do it, Silve as a master
Speaker 1: What a what a week for Devolve by the way,
Speaker 1: you know, get get involved. Really is with the kneeling
Speaker 1: before the national anthem unifier, which I thought, no, I
Speaker 1: thought it was great. I thought it was a great
Speaker 1: message and great job by the Browns in general, and
Speaker 1: now getting mentioned by Silva also like but Seth was
Speaker 1: the only problem with that is Devolved now is like
Speaker 1: a real news person. He's like, news is a quote
Speaker 1: unquote important figure. And are you a little annoyed? Marks, Well,
Speaker 1: I got I had number one. I'm not annoyed because
Speaker 1: I think it was Personally, I found it a great
Speaker 1: moment for the Browns and what they express as a team.
Speaker 1: But secondly, I got tons of tweets saying, oh, maybe
Speaker 1: your little Seth to Valve snark machine might need to
Speaker 1: end at this point, was like, well, by the way,
Speaker 1: we were always hoisting him up as a quality guy
Speaker 1: and a great teammate, and that's come true. I think.
Speaker 1: Actually we were on this story far before human events. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's get back to the point. Good job, Seth. We're
Speaker 1: proud of you, um so. And I didn't see you
Speaker 1: taking notes Greg, but yes, that that is the way
Speaker 1: to write. Well, I take umbradge because who was the
Speaker 1: one who was the one schooling Evan so on how
Speaker 1: to write these blurbs back in the day. No, tighten
Speaker 1: up the the opinion part, you know, No, like, we
Speaker 1: don't want two sentences up top. You gotta put the
Speaker 1: source in their up top. If it's a report, you know,
Speaker 1: all sorts of stuff. I was writing the book. I
Speaker 1: didn't you know, I didn't start, I didn't start the
Speaker 1: company or anything. But I wasn't meant to go through
Speaker 1: without I was writing the book on how to do
Speaker 1: all those literally. Yeah, yeah, well I was telling him
Speaker 1: what to do. You know, you can tell you can
Speaker 1: ask Evan. Not a lot of friendly instant message, Dan,
Speaker 1: this is some high level pot stirring by you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I had no idea this would get under gregskin, but
Speaker 1: apparently it has anyway. So now that we have these instructions,
Speaker 1: let's go around the room. Um feel a little intimidated
Speaker 1: writing these for the first time ever next to the
Speaker 1: guy that essentially created the franchise. Yes, but the good
Speaker 1: thing is it's simple. It's very simple. Anyone can follow it.
Speaker 1: And that's you know, because you have six or seven writers,
Speaker 1: you gotta have it all one voice, all right, So
Speaker 1: one last time, and it is time for world blurbs
Speaker 1: from the future. Greg get us going. All right, these
Speaker 1: are from the future. They have not happened yet, that's
Speaker 1: what the future is about, but they will. And if
Speaker 1: you watch, you know, if you watch on online on video,
Speaker 1: you can see our little road to world Club. We
Speaker 1: got ready. But the headline here Shady times in Buffalo
Speaker 1: coming to an end. Lashawn McCoy said after Sunday's Week
Speaker 1: six loss that the Bill's offense quote doesn't have a clue.
Speaker 1: This is dated October two thousand and seventeen. And then
Speaker 1: the analysis this has been building for a while. Fresh
Speaker 1: off a season where the team led the NFL and
Speaker 1: rushing McCoy is averaging a paltry three point five years
Speaker 1: to carry with only one touchdown on the season. Yikes,
Speaker 1: this is week six. It's hard to imagine McCoy sticking
Speaker 1: around for a second year under coach Sean McDermott and
Speaker 1: has us wondering if the Bills start looking for trade
Speaker 1: partners before Halloween's deadline, a return to Philadelphia would make
Speaker 1: a lot of sense. Wow, I mean that a little
Speaker 1: beefy maybe in terms of the word camp, but exactly
Speaker 1: why I did add that four sentence and I I
Speaker 1: always liked that three sentences, nice and tight. You got
Speaker 1: the information out there alright, opinion, that's a good one.
Speaker 1: And actually it is definitely happening. These are from the future. Uh,
Speaker 1: that one doesn't surprise me that it would be great.
Speaker 1: It would be great news for our friend, uh, our
Speaker 1: friend in the desert, the Consigliari to have Jonathan spice rack.
Speaker 1: Jonathan Williams also a sleeper of Evan Silva this year,
Speaker 1: Jonathan Williams, So that would be a good news for him.
Speaker 1: There we go. Let's move on to the next headline
Speaker 1: from the future. This one is Christian Hackenburgh's dream season.
Speaker 1: Rolls on who wrote this one all right next blurb.
Speaker 1: Hackenburg completed twenty seven or eight passes for three seven
Speaker 1: yards and four touchdowns as the Jets rolled over the
Speaker 1: Bronch in Week fourteen, now with the blue text. His
Speaker 1: loaning completion came on a clock killing spike late the
Speaker 1: first half. With a favorable schedule ahead, including a Week
Speaker 1: seventeen match up against the crazy, disappointing, and frankly embarrassing Patriots,
Speaker 1: Hackenberg is an excellent position to become the lead's first
Speaker 1: unanimous MVY pie since Tom Brady in two thousand ten.
Speaker 1: Uh dated Sunday's December tenth, two thou seventeen seven The
Speaker 1: Cinderella Story. Feel good about it? I mean, this is
Speaker 1: I can't say that I'm we went a little safe
Speaker 1: there with that one, but it's okay. Yeah. I didn't
Speaker 1: know that this was supposed to be a comedy routine.
Speaker 1: I thought we were supposed to be giving some predictions,
Speaker 1: some analysis of what fans might expect to see. Instead
Speaker 1: of your dream scenario that will never happen. This is
Speaker 1: not a dream. This is the future. Sometimes the future
Speaker 1: can feel like a dream, but this is not. This
Speaker 1: is reality. It just hasn't happened yet. Mark, keep us
Speaker 1: going very solid by you. All right, let's go back
Speaker 1: to New England. McDaniels bolting pro football for the pool.
Speaker 1: According to know by the way, my white text, they've
Speaker 1: messed with my blue. If you're on the video show here,
Speaker 1: my text is nice and brief up top. According to
Speaker 1: Ginger B. Harkins of GRIDIRN notebook dot Net, Patriots play
Speaker 1: caller Josh McDaniels is considering a departure from the NFL
Speaker 1: to coach women's swimming. For Ginger thought a swimming writer
Speaker 1: would break this, but no, well, let's get down. Let's
Speaker 1: get down to the analysis. The celebrated offensive coordinator has
Speaker 1: become enamored with the sports since picking up a swimming
Speaker 1: magazine at a news stand during a family vacation in Ibiza.
Speaker 1: McDaniels isn't talks to take up the coaching mantle at
Speaker 1: Lee Harvey Oswald High School and Ipswitch Mass, where the
Speaker 1: girls team is anchored by Olympic freestyles Freestyle hopeful, Jessica tangential.
Speaker 1: That's all you're getting out of the analysis. That is
Speaker 1: from February nine, two, eighteen three eleven PM. What kind
Speaker 1: of school district names a school after John Kennedy's assassin.
Speaker 1: This is far into the future. The season's over. Got
Speaker 1: no information about what will happen in the season. Just
Speaker 1: when when was that vacation and Abiza didn't know that's
Speaker 1: a family place to go. Well, I don't know that's right.
Speaker 1: The report has some shady aspects to Greg keep us going,
Speaker 1: What do we got next? Do we got little kennycar blurb? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, the bring us back to reality,
Speaker 1: Rod to world. And they don't just do offensive posts.
Speaker 1: They do defensive posts all all the time. Headline hell
Speaker 1: getting chilly as Saints defense excels again, I get that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Saints safety Kenny Vacara recorded six tackles, one interception, two
Speaker 1: pass defense, a sack, and two tackles for lost in
Speaker 1: fourteen victory over the Panthers in Week three. This is
Speaker 1: September seventeen. Comment on that little opinion. The Saints defense
Speaker 1: is respectable. Vaccaro is off to a monster start to
Speaker 1: his contract years. Is one of the most valuable safeties
Speaker 1: I d p leagues and the NFL as a whole.
Speaker 1: The Saints move to two and one with a surprising
Speaker 1: formula of sound defense led by a deep secondary and
Speaker 1: a much improved linebacker crew. If this keeps up, the
Speaker 1: team will be able to keep feeding their productive three
Speaker 1: headed backfield a ton of carries each week. Waity go vacara.
Speaker 1: Like that stretched into nearly a long form there with
Speaker 1: the was the same amount of three sentences. That's what
Speaker 1: you got. Do you want to you want to add
Speaker 1: the you know I've done this. You want to add
Speaker 1: as much fantasy goodness and content as you can. You
Speaker 1: want to have it the reader really understand the context
Speaker 1: of why you're bringing this to the fore. How does
Speaker 1: it feel to be flexing these muscles again? I feel
Speaker 1: like you you're a little energized during the segment. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind doing a little maybe challenged after Silva
Speaker 1: showed up. Yeah, that's true. I wouldn't mind doing a
Speaker 1: little morning news shift. You just go through all the
Speaker 1: tweet Twitter and I will say, same defense. Looking in
Speaker 1: the preseason, you might far too far off. No, it's
Speaker 1: it's actually the reality. It's actually more reality. Headline Mike Glennon,
Speaker 1: still at the Fairs Draft party on Fox, confirmed the
Speaker 1: report that the lanky fifth year passer has been in
Speaker 1: a curled fetal position behind the popcorn machine the soldier
Speaker 1: field since Chicago drafted Mitch Robinski and now it's time
Speaker 1: for some analysis. Glennon accepted a team Well, actually I
Speaker 1: messed it up because there's a little more background here. See,
Speaker 1: I'm new to this world war. Sometimes you have to
Speaker 1: you have to dig it. Well. The good thing is
Speaker 1: you can always edit it live. There's a lot of Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of mistakes that go up on the
Speaker 1: site back at least, you know, back in the day.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's a little cleaner now than he clean. He
Speaker 1: was very clean today. I think you'll like the end
Speaker 1: of it, though, Greg, I think you'll be proud. Glennon
Speaker 1: accepted a team invite to attend a fan draft party
Speaker 1: in April eight. Fox of the Club has been employing
Speaker 1: a limberneck doppelganger during the preseason, Fake Lynn and age
Speaker 1: Unknown is worth a look as a two quarterback league.
Speaker 1: Play a little bit like that, a little bit of
Speaker 1: you know, help there for people. Friday, August seven, that
Speaker 1: was good. I mean, if you really wanted to sound fantasy,
Speaker 1: you'd be like, Glennon is a low end QB two
Speaker 1: something like that. All right, Mark, um, take us through
Speaker 1: one more time. Let's go to the Bay Area, San Francisco.
Speaker 1: No more waning for NFL Enigma Waxy. Forty Niners coach
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan calls undrafted running back Francisco Waxy and quotes
Speaker 1: the key to our ground game. This comes right at
Speaker 1: the end of the season. By the way, a ghost
Speaker 1: during his rookie year and considered no more than a
Speaker 1: myth by fans, Waxy has explored. Excuse me, Waxy has
Speaker 1: exploded during late season practices for Cam Inman of the
Speaker 1: Bay Area Newsgroup. He's someone the organization treasures, Shanahan said
Speaker 1: after watching Waxy run for a hundred and seventy four
Speaker 1: yards and two touchdowns in the final quarter of Sunday's
Speaker 1: regular season beat down of the Rams. Wow, Waxy resurfaces.
Speaker 1: I hold off on the fantasy advice because it's January second.
Speaker 1: A lot can happen between January second and fantasy next summer.
Speaker 1: It's worth watching the video just to see the head
Speaker 1: shot that Waxy has because I don't know how Rhodor
Speaker 1: World managed to do this, but it seemed to be
Speaker 1: a hand drawing of Wax. That has a lot to
Speaker 1: do with the NFL podcast scenarios deep ruling on how
Speaker 1: to use graphical images and photographs that are out in
Speaker 1: the I think it worked that well. Sweet, all right,
Speaker 1: one one more time around the horn's one more time? Alright?
Speaker 1: Should we stop? No more time, Greg, take us back
Speaker 1: to the throne of the headline world. But it's really
Speaker 1: not that long. It just seems long when we're reading
Speaker 1: out loud, the joy of Rex. See I I stuck
Speaker 1: with the future, not too far in the future. October one,
Speaker 1: two thousand and seventeen. Rex Burkhead rushed for seventy four
Speaker 1: yards on thirteen carries, caught six passes for forty three yards,
Speaker 1: and scored two touchdowns in a week four victory. Don't
Speaker 1: say we didn't warn you. Road a World Svengali Evan
Speaker 1: Silva has been banging the Burkehead drum with authority since
Speaker 1: the preseason, and those who have listened have been rewarded
Speaker 1: with steady RB one slash two production on fifteen plus
Speaker 1: touches per week. Unfortunately, Silva has grown drunk with power
Speaker 1: after a particularly strong scene as a tow and now
Speaker 1: roams the streets of Chicago shirtless, yelling who's talking trash
Speaker 1: about my ernest Wilford sleeper call. Now that's October first,
Speaker 1: that's only a few more months until the full meltdown
Speaker 1: happens for Silva. Unfortunate. Yeah, and a great and and
Speaker 1: at least it comes along with great news for Birkehead owners.
Speaker 1: You know, if you take them late in the draft,
Speaker 1: that's that's great news. And I'm surprised Silva's really held
Speaker 1: onto that Wilford criticism for so long, because that's a
Speaker 1: decade since since well it led to unraveling. That is
Speaker 1: very surprising. Silva, by the way, was just named in
Speaker 1: a report somewhere as the number one mentioned fantasy name
Speaker 1: in the game Pig. How do you feel about that?
Speaker 1: I don't think it's great job by Rank, Nice job
Speaker 1: by Silva. Um alright, moving up. So that was my
Speaker 1: subtle tease to the Fantasy Spectacular, which I believe is
Speaker 1: star us on Fridays a little earlier. In fact, if
Speaker 1: you got when's your Thursday draft? Go get you some
Speaker 1: rex alright. Headline report Colan Lines Institute quote home games
Speaker 1: only policy. The Motown Daily Register cited unnamed sources in
Speaker 1: reporting that the Lines will forfeit all road contests this
Speaker 1: season in favor of an eight game season that includes
Speaker 1: no air travel travel end quote. Significantly depressed logistical concerns
Speaker 1: closed quote. Here's the analysis, uh, a little bit more reporting.
Speaker 1: One anonymous line was quoted as saying, this is like
Speaker 1: way easier man. The writing has been on the wall
Speaker 1: here since Detroit was the last team to report for
Speaker 1: training camp ding summer. Of course, don't forget about Jim
Speaker 1: Caldwell's decision to turn his back on the solar eclipse
Speaker 1: in a big spot. That was another red flag. We
Speaker 1: advise you to steer clear of Lions players in all
Speaker 1: fourmats until they reinstitute a full sixteen game schedule Wednesday,
Speaker 1: September six two rock solid advice at the end there
Speaker 1: to jump off these Detroit players from a fantasy. Now,
Speaker 1: that's that's a big durability problem. If they're only playing
Speaker 1: home games, you're only getting eight games out of them. Alright, mercifully, Mark, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure from the hero uh it just said,
Speaker 1: Kenny Chesney to our two thousand eight on sale right now. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's go all right back to New England one more time.
Speaker 1: Seems to be the only place we are. Steve Belichick,
Speaker 1: engineer behind Pat's dynasty. Santa Monica's RAND Corporation claims Steve
Speaker 1: Belichick's iconic scouting tone riddled with secret messages. In a
Speaker 1: stunning paper published Tuesday, expert linguist Lionel Billingsley claims to
Speaker 1: have found, in quotes legions of coded text within the
Speaker 1: pages of football scouting Methods, the nineteen sixty two opus
Speaker 1: by Navy coaching legend Steve Belichick, father of Bill taking
Speaker 1: the fourteenth letter of every paragraph from chapter three, what
Speaker 1: is expected of the scout? Billings Lee unearthed the dark
Speaker 1: mantra that begins. My loving boy William and I spent
Speaker 1: nine hundred plus hours working with government intelligence men in
Speaker 1: Peru to create a football a perfect football player we
Speaker 1: call Tommy two thousand seventeen. Wow. I mean, that's gonna
Speaker 1: rock the football world. That would rock them, and I
Speaker 1: got a feeling that that could lead to maybe a
Speaker 1: loss of another first round pick. I mean, this Rand
Speaker 1: Corporation is a real thing straight in Santa Monica. It's
Speaker 1: uh international policy and research was one of the key
Speaker 1: research foundations. I believe that helped get the country into
Speaker 1: the Vietnam War. You would think that would have helped
Speaker 1: put them out of business. But no, they keep growing.
Speaker 1: I think right outside the park that I go to
Speaker 1: projects and projects I think have changed to some degree there.
Speaker 1: I think they're still nefarious and they're off the grids,
Speaker 1: such as this very off the grid. There you go.
Speaker 1: Those are rootal world blurbs from the future. Wow, all right,
Speaker 1: before we go, I think that Rand Corp Vietnam take,
Speaker 1: was it? I think that's a mistake. I thought you said,
Speaker 1: I thought that ran long, and you're right, it did
Speaker 1: ran long. No, that was great. It was all right,
Speaker 1: here we go. Before we get out of here, let's
Speaker 1: welcome him in. You know who he is. You know
Speaker 1: who it is. It's time for trash takes with Patrick
Speaker 1: claiban and now trash takes with Patrick clan that's big time.
Speaker 1: Dropped the bomb on me. Just go ahead and do that.
Speaker 1: That's incredible voice. You know you've made it. Freks. What
Speaker 1: Frank was excited about me going up here? I couldn't
Speaker 1: figure out why you. Frags actually approached me privately on Monday,
Speaker 1: and she got back from one of her European johnts
Speaker 1: that she's known for, also known as her Weekend. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I had a very raspy voice to her. Uh
Speaker 1: and she said, hey, if you need me this week,
Speaker 1: I'm in fine form. And I said, hey, I might
Speaker 1: take up of that. She was like the daughter of
Speaker 1: Kim Karnes. Alright. So, Patrick Claiban, you know why you're
Speaker 1: here because whenever something in the NFL that has, you know,
Speaker 1: a little bit of heat to a little hot sauce
Speaker 1: on it, a storyline that leads to hot takes, that's
Speaker 1: where Patrick Clayman comes in. He is the hot takes
Speaker 1: on budsman of NFL media, of really media period. Uh
Speaker 1: So he is now going to step in and share
Speaker 1: some of the hottest takes he came across, the trash takes,
Speaker 1: the trashiest takes he came across. When Odell Beckham hurt
Speaker 1: his ankle on Monday Night against the Browns. Yeah, we're
Speaker 1: sitting there and you see Odell go down and your
Speaker 1: initial thought us, oh my god, this guy is so
Speaker 1: important to the Giants. Well, these people on the internet,
Speaker 1: they have other opinions and shout out to Alex Wilke,
Speaker 1: who helped me go through these and kind of and
Speaker 1: sort them out and make sure that we're not maligning anyone.
Speaker 1: So these are paraphrased. Yeah, that that is, you know,
Speaker 1: that was on our radar before the show. I think people,
Speaker 1: if you have a trash take and you put it
Speaker 1: out and you publish it, it's you're publishing your own work.
Speaker 1: You should have your name on it, and it puts
Speaker 1: you out there to be criticized. But Alex is looking
Speaker 1: out for the greater good and and he's got to
Speaker 1: take care of all of us. We appreciate it, alright.
Speaker 1: First off, O b J this trash tweet. I was
Speaker 1: watching O b J walk to locker room questions why
Speaker 1: didn't anybody from Giants go with him? Also, would O'Dell
Speaker 1: drop to his knees if camera wasn't there. Let's break
Speaker 1: this down two parts. The first part, why didn't anyone
Speaker 1: walk to the locker room with him? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I didn't really thought about that. There was a lot
Speaker 1: of conspiracy theories about this. Why why is he alone?
Speaker 1: That got on my radar a little bit, but so
Speaker 1: far halfway through I wouldn't call it a trash take.
Speaker 1: It's interesting to wonder he's the signature player on the team.
Speaker 1: Part two partn you read that again, would O'Dell have
Speaker 1: dropped to his knees if the camera wasn't there. Hey,
Speaker 1: you want the answer, Patrick, because I'll give you the answer.
Speaker 1: In my opinion, he would not have dropped to his knees.
Speaker 1: I'm in on this trash. In our old format, Dan
Speaker 1: would be retweeting this. Yeah all right, here's here's a
Speaker 1: little backstory. We watched this game in Chris Westley's hospital room. Yes,
Speaker 1: as a foresome was a very unique podcast that no
Speaker 1: one was taping, and Dan basically had this take trash
Speaker 1: take out loud at the time. Yeah, well, I thought
Speaker 1: you're gonna give me credit that I said, ghet O'Dell
Speaker 1: out of the game like that second. Actually that was true.
Speaker 1: That was amazing. He was like, get out out of
Speaker 1: the game a play before that happened. But then, yes,
Speaker 1: you thought he was playing up for the camera, which
Speaker 1: I thought was unfair. I totally think that Odell plays
Speaker 1: it up for the camera, and I think the dropping
Speaker 1: to his knees is fully He's fully aware that the
Speaker 1: cameras behind him. He likes it. I'm not even saying
Speaker 1: it makes him some type of like you know, playboy
Speaker 1: or some guy that's like a glory boy type thing.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying he likes it. He likes being the
Speaker 1: center of attention. I don't think that's trash. It just
Speaker 1: didn't surprise me that of all the players in the
Speaker 1: league that would have had this pantomime, this moment, uh
Speaker 1: that was captured perfectly on crisp, like seventy millimeter footage.
Speaker 1: It was like Odell in the middle of like an
Speaker 1: empty hallway. Just how many players in the NFL do
Speaker 1: we get the full Bill old Berg walk up? That
Speaker 1: part is you normally wouldn't have seen him, and he
Speaker 1: just suffered what looks like if I had to guess
Speaker 1: a high ankle spring. First, is a little weird that
Speaker 1: there was no one with him, like carding him or anything.
Speaker 1: But if he just suffered an injury, that's knocking one
Speaker 1: of the country's best athletes out of action for three
Speaker 1: or four weeks, that probably hurts. Yep, the second part
Speaker 1: of it doesn't happen If the first part doesn't, if
Speaker 1: there are team officials with him guiding him back to
Speaker 1: the locker room, the second part where he's allowed alone
Speaker 1: on the ground, wouldn't I think this is trash? Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 1: he has to me he has a cinematic viewpoint of
Speaker 1: his entire existence. He believes he's the star of his
Speaker 1: own movie. On some level, he is. He's walking down
Speaker 1: this this empty hallway, and that there's a lot of
Speaker 1: like there's a metaphor to that that all of a
Speaker 1: sudden he's all alone, he's no longer on the battlefield,
Speaker 1: and he's alone with his injury. Uh, there's a cameraman
Speaker 1: behind me. Let's bring this up to the next notch.
Speaker 1: Not trash to me. Okay, well this uh, the second
Speaker 1: one goes along with a similar thing. O you, what's
Speaker 1: that smell? It's trashed with Patrick Clay get the truck going,
Speaker 1: all right, similar themes of all of these. Uh we
Speaker 1: we just weren't with three, but number two the hit
Speaker 1: obviously looked bad ellipsies. But Odell Beckham Jr. Always knows
Speaker 1: where that cameras that and can't miss the opportunity to
Speaker 1: be the center of attention again this dance all over
Speaker 1: this one. Okay, I'll stay out of this. Somebody else.
Speaker 1: I think it's good. I think it's it's healthy for
Speaker 1: the Trash Stakes segment to have disagreement. Yeah, yeah, it
Speaker 1: makes it better. I'll say this that the the hit
Speaker 1: looked very bad when it happens, So if he was
Speaker 1: in pain, I am not taking that away from I
Speaker 1: think he was comfortable at all, and he was probably Also,
Speaker 1: here's a guy that wished he had signed a long
Speaker 1: term deal before he got stuck in some preseason game.
Speaker 1: Where now we someone taking out a massive insurance policy.
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's fear and concern on multiple levels happening,
Speaker 1: no matter if you're Odell Beckham or any other players.
Speaker 1: It's an emotional moment. I don't know. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna get on the second part. The second
Speaker 1: part agree with from before you know, I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 1: gonna channel my old man, Keith Hansas. Yeah, Danny is Beckham,
Speaker 1: he's an actor. That's definitely what my dad thinks. No
Speaker 1: emotion expressed from any NFL player, But anyway, I think
Speaker 1: it's totally yeah, that's that's the thing that the third
Speaker 1: one isn't about the helmet at all, is it? Because
Speaker 1: that was another thing that's my hair For a second,
Speaker 1: it's you can be hurt, and I think he was
Speaker 1: obviously hurt, but also still be you know, knowing that
Speaker 1: every camera's on you he likes that. I don't even
Speaker 1: think that's a bad thing that people enjoys that the
Speaker 1: cameras are there. And I think he always part of
Speaker 1: his celebrity, I think is that he kind of plays
Speaker 1: to the cameras a little bit no matter what. Even
Speaker 1: even for example, when he punches a wall, the camera
Speaker 1: doesn't have to be there, but O'Dell knows that there's
Speaker 1: gonna be a camera there later, and that's why he's
Speaker 1: punching the wall. I guess that's the theory that we're
Speaker 1: going in there. It's like that I did, and then
Speaker 1: after the fact it will be all right. Anyway we
Speaker 1: can go to thought yeah, well know to the third
Speaker 1: and final theme of I can't I can't read these
Speaker 1: don't walk over your own trial, try not that I
Speaker 1: was just so excited. I can't read this one specifically
Speaker 1: because it's, uh, we've been tampered down, Yeah, we've been.
Speaker 1: But the general theme is criticism of his masculinity because
Speaker 1: he chose to be frustrated trash. That's trash, trash. I'm
Speaker 1: totally with that. We don't need to go in general
Speaker 1: this idea that people on Twitter see a guy suffer
Speaker 1: an injury and and then that's and this happens as
Speaker 1: someone who grew up in New York. It's any any division,
Speaker 1: but especially Eagles fans and and Redskins fans and Giants fans.
Speaker 1: They all hate each other and they all think their
Speaker 1: players are the worst people alive. And there is a
Speaker 1: lack of humanity sometimes sometimes a lot of times on Twitter,
Speaker 1: and it comes out with things like this, this guy
Speaker 1: he might miss time back them, but he came very
Speaker 1: close to having his career impacted forever. So you know,
Speaker 1: back off the physical toughness angle here. It's a tough
Speaker 1: sport to play. That's why the tweets. And I saw
Speaker 1: a couple of them questioning, oh, just had to throw
Speaker 1: off his helmet right away, you know, like like that
Speaker 1: was necessary? I have, like do we have? First of all,
Speaker 1: that always happens when players get hurt, they take off
Speaker 1: their their helmet, like subtweeted someone in this company's Second,
Speaker 1: you can look it up. There was a few of those. Yeah. Second,
Speaker 1: it's at the moment where I two pound man just
Speaker 1: hit his knee going full speed with a helmet as
Speaker 1: hard as he could. Like I'm not I'm not questioning
Speaker 1: the they normally missed the tackle by seven or eight
Speaker 1: yards without questioning the action of what he does three
Speaker 1: seconds after that. You're a new father. I would imagine
Speaker 1: one of your primary, you know, instincts teachings that you're
Speaker 1: passing down is to avoid some of the your son,
Speaker 1: to avoid some of these hot takes. Yeah, and that's
Speaker 1: and that's the goal. We we made the Twitter account, uh,
Speaker 1: seconds after he opened his eyes for the first time
Speaker 1: to go there. You know, I'm going over some rules
Speaker 1: and regulations and uh and yeah, this just being toxically
Speaker 1: masculine is probably up there. You played trash takes with
Speaker 1: Patrick Laban for him in his crib at night as
Speaker 1: he goes to sleep. We have, between the four of
Speaker 1: us in this room right now, we have what two four, five,
Speaker 1: six sons, just a massive progeny and daughter and a
Speaker 1: daughter and a daughter. And I was referring to the
Speaker 1: toxic masculinity angle here. I hope your daughter doesn't go
Speaker 1: down that road either, toxicity. But like my point is
Speaker 1: is that we have to be vigilant, um ever vigilant
Speaker 1: of toxic masculinity on Twitter. But also we can't control them.
Speaker 1: What happens if your boy starts throwing out some trash takes.
Speaker 1: What do you do? You roast him, You roast him mercilessly.
Speaker 1: Do you take you take him out of social media?
Speaker 1: Can you bench him? No? You just just flame him
Speaker 1: on Twitter and gets people to blast him. You know,
Speaker 1: you gotta take the hell you been for. Everybody challenge um.
Speaker 1: All right, so there you go. I think I love
Speaker 1: I love this. By the way, no recycling here. It's
Speaker 1: trash takes with Patrick. I love trash takes with Patrick Clevan.
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna pound the table the next time we
Speaker 1: bring it back that there should be names attached to
Speaker 1: these trash takes. You put it out there, just like
Speaker 1: you want to do with your son. You want him
Speaker 1: to own his trash takes. These people should own their
Speaker 1: trash ta. I mean maybe if we want to keep
Speaker 1: it where we're not, you know, getting in trouble with
Speaker 1: other media outlets, we could certainly find people inside our
Speaker 1: own NFL media land with the trash takes and we
Speaker 1: take that. That sounds like a great career move. A
Speaker 1: smart group of people like we we do it out
Speaker 1: of love. We're so good at this career thing. This
Speaker 1: is all constructive criticism, all right, Patrick, even though we
Speaker 1: are on opposite sides of the odebt you're saying, you're
Speaker 1: telling me Beckham dropping to his knees in the tunnel,
Speaker 1: doesn't the alarm bells to you In terms of he
Speaker 1: might be playing it up a little bit. No, I thought, wow,
Speaker 1: he he might really be hurt, And then looked at
Speaker 1: the replayer and I saw he was probably a fraction
Speaker 1: of a second from heaving his foot touched the ground
Speaker 1: and his knee be gone completely. It could be both,
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. He could be could be abo upset,
Speaker 1: but also be like I'm adult. Both don't check your
Speaker 1: ed Greg, I'm allowed to have an opinion. I'm allowed
Speaker 1: to disagree with your trash d your trash bro all right,
Speaker 1: thank you Patrick for joining us. Thank you guys. I
Speaker 1: think it's important that we have like our takes come
Speaker 1: from both angles of the track. We got this trash covered,
Speaker 1: all right. Patrick goes back downstairs. He is one of
Speaker 1: the faces of the news opera. Patrick jumping off the
Speaker 1: Titanic just in time. I mean, you don't have to
Speaker 1: leave where where the shows over? The show's over, stay on, Patrick,
Speaker 1: Please uh nfl up to the minute he's all over
Speaker 1: the place. He's keeping you informed. We will be back
Speaker 1: on Friday with our third and final show of the week,
Speaker 1: which will be Part one of the Fantasy Extravaganza with
Speaker 1: some special guests from our our our Fantasy team here
Speaker 1: at NFL Media. So we're very excit for that show.
Speaker 1: I know, Mark, you are the most excited about the
Speaker 1: return of the Fantasy. How do I get to Friday?
Speaker 1: What do I do with myself until then? And yeah,
Speaker 1: we're going back to the Hot corner too, So uh
Speaker 1: is this Dan hands as signing off for a quiet storm?
Speaker 1: The Boss Mr Clayburne himself Erica Campos behind the Glass
Speaker 1: tell Friday