1 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: The Action Network Podcast Podcast. 2 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 2: If you are even remotely a savage, you'll run these 3 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 2: people over for a second spot. My goodness, Hello and 4 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 2: welcome to the Action Network Podcast presented by BETAMGM. I'm 5 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 2: your host Sean Zerilla, joined today by Billy Ward. That 6 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 2: means it's time for another UFC betting preview. We're here 7 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 2: to break down UFC two ninety nine, going live from Miami, Florida, 8 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 2: featuring bantam Way title matchup between Sean O'Malley and Cheeto 9 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 2: Vera rematch from twenty twenty which Vera took and at 10 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:50,840 Speaker 2: very similar odds. 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Billy, let's talk 19 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 2: about the main event. 20 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 3: Cheeto Vera. 21 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 2: Shan O'Malley ran this back from a few years ago. 22 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 2: Cheeto one after first round leg kick led to drop 23 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 2: foot for O'Malley. He ended up falling, Cheeto got on top, 24 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 2: pounded it out with some elbows. Mally may have even 25 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 2: gotten unconscious for a second. Pretty scary moment after that. 26 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 2: Cheeto's debated or O'Malley and Cheetoh have debated the quality 27 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 2: of that finish, whether Cheeto actually caused the damage that 28 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 2: led to that finish. We've seen O'Malley deal with a 29 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 2: similar issue in another fight against Ando Shupman Top, where 30 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 2: he ended up on bottom in the third round and 31 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 2: basically just had a drop foot and couldn't stand on 32 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 2: his leg and couldn't get up. So something that's always 33 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 2: going to pop up in Shawn O'Malley fights. Have to 34 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 2: be concerned about that potentially popping up again in terms 35 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 2: of how this fight plays out. In terms of how 36 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 2: this matchup plays out. I bet Cheetoh the first time 37 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 2: at around this price plus two twenty five. Interested in 38 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 2: betting him again, but I actually think you're going to 39 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,839 Speaker 2: get a better price live that he will pre fight. 40 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 2: If you're betting a pre fight, I like Cheeto inside 41 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 2: the distance about four to one projected that closer to 42 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 2: three to one. I like Cheeto in the finish only 43 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:23,239 Speaker 2: market at plus one forty little tip there getting plus 44 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 2: one forty domestically the offshore market for that prop sitting 45 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 2: minus one thirty five in favor of Cheetoh. I think 46 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 2: he should be favored in the finish only market, and 47 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 2: I think getting plus money on Cheeto to be the 48 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 2: one that finish the fight and you push if that 49 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 2: fight goes to a decision. I think that's the best 50 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 2: way to play this fight. But I also like Cheetoh 51 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 2: live quite a bit, and I know Billy likes that 52 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 2: as well. Live after round one, live after round two. 53 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 2: Cheeto is a notoriously slow starter, and o'll Mattley is 54 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 2: actually a pretty quick starter. This is more so about 55 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 2: Cheetoh starting slow, especially in his five round fights. His 56 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 2: past three main events, he's been outstruck one hundred and 57 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 2: ten to forty across the first round. Likes to start slow, 58 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 2: keep a high guard, get his reads. He's not going 59 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 2: to absorb a lot of damage, but in terms of 60 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 2: the optics for the judges, it's going to look like 61 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 2: he's getting double or tripled up in terms of strikes 62 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:11,959 Speaker 2: he's going to keep those gloves up. O'Malley's going to 63 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 2: bounce a lot of punches off of those gloves, but 64 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 2: very similar to the Brandon Royvel Brandon Marino fight in 65 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 2: Mexico City, that output, even if it's bouncing off the gloves, 66 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 2: is still going to favor the guy throwing more So. 67 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 2: I think O'Malley pulls ahead in the first round pretty 68 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 2: consistently wins that first round of probably an eighty or 69 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 2: ninety percent clip. That second round should become a little 70 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:33,519 Speaker 2: bit closer as Cheeto opens up, probably make that round 71 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 2: about sixty to forty in favor of O'Malley, and then 72 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 2: by the third round, I think things become much closer 73 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 2: to fifty to fifty, if not outright favor Cheeto. Down 74 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 2: this stretch probably the most important factor in this fight. 75 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 2: Cheeto's been five rounds on multiplications, and his style gets 76 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 2: better over the course of five rounds. He really picks 77 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 2: things up in the fourth and fifth round and becomes 78 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 2: much more daterous his great cardio and tremendous or ability, 79 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 2: and I expect him to survive to the fifth round 80 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 2: unless he finishes O'Malley first. On the other end of 81 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 2: the spectrum. O'Malley a bit newtly, smaller legs, definitely think 82 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 2: those legs can get kicked again, that he can get 83 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,119 Speaker 2: hurt there, and he's also never proven his cardio beyond 84 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 2: the fifteen minute mark. He looked really good in the 85 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 2: third round against piotr Gan, but there's other fights where 86 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 2: he's slowing down, and it's very possible that Cheeto, you know, 87 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 2: as he's accelerating into the later rounds, if O'Malley is 88 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 2: slowing down just the touch, it may really favor Cheeto 89 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 2: later on in this fight. So Cheetah live, I think 90 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 2: the best approach Cheetoh finish only I think the other 91 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 2: best approach for this fight, and inside the distance as 92 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 2: well the three ways I'm betting it. O'Malley should win 93 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 2: the early minutes. I think Cheetah rallies and makes this 94 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,239 Speaker 2: one close and interesting. Late would probably lean to O'Malley 95 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 2: taking that decision just because of the early winnute winning upside, 96 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 2: and that's why I really like that finish only market 97 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 2: for Cheeto in this fight. But could absolutely finish things 98 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 2: early in the fight as he did in the last matchup. 99 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 2: And Billy, you're taking Cheetah on the money line but 100 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 2: also targeting the live angle. 101 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a few parts of this. I took Cheeto 102 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 4: at plus two to forty earlier in the week. I 103 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 4: had that in my luck ratings. I'm kind of torn, honestly, 104 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 4: if I didn't get that line whether I would still 105 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 4: play the plus two twenty or just wait for the 106 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 4: live because the live feels just so incredibly obvious here. 107 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 4: But one thing you mentioned is, you know they've gone 108 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 4: back and forth debating that injury and whether that was 109 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 4: a legitimate win or whether it was something that came in. 110 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 5: You could kind of do the same thing about all. 111 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 4: Of O'Malley's last three fights, right, So he had the 112 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 4: ipoke against Pedro Muno's, but Muno's won that was winning 113 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 4: the first round on two out of three judges. When 114 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 4: that fight got stopped, Puder Yan O'Malley won a split decision, 115 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 4: like pretty widely regarded as a very bad decision. You know, 116 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 4: you check out MMADE decisions any of those resources. Kind 117 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 4: of everyone says that that should have gone to Yan 118 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 4: and then al jam and Sterling. He knocked him out, 119 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 4: So I'm not saying he didn't finish that fight, but 120 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 4: you know, Sterling was saying he wasn't ready to fight, 121 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 4: He didn't want to take the fight at that date. 122 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 5: It wasn't a good time for him. He got kind 123 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 5: of forced into it. 124 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 4: You can kind of go through his record and say, like, 125 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 4: who is he really beaten at a high level that 126 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 4: there's not some major question marks about So that that's 127 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:54,559 Speaker 4: what initially put me on cheeto. 128 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 5: And yeah, on top of that. 129 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 4: Just the live is so so obvious with the way 130 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 4: both these guys fight. O'Malley might have good cardio, kind 131 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 4: of a leaner guy, doesn't burn out a ton of energy. 132 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 5: We don't know. 133 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 4: I'm kind of inclined to believe, just as a general 134 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 4: principle in MMA, if we're saying that xaxax is a 135 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 4: question mark and of guy's resume that it's probably a 136 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 4: question mark because he avoids it because he's not that 137 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 4: great at it. That's not always going to be right. 138 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:18,919 Speaker 4: And we're going to talk about some fighters where we 139 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 4: think that's wrong later on. But you know, until I'm 140 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:24,919 Speaker 4: proven wrong, I'm going to believe that it's probably not 141 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 4: a strong suit for him at the very least. So, yeah, 142 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 4: you're almost certainly going to get a better price on 143 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 4: Cheetoh after the first round. I got no problem with 144 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 4: the plus two twenty, no problem with any of the 145 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 4: stuff you said, but definitely live betting. 146 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 5: It's the ideal way to play this. 147 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:40,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that the UC basically protected Sean O'Malley 148 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 2: for being able to prove that cardio. You know, the 149 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 2: first main event slot that they gave him, I believe 150 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 2: was the Sterling fight, and that was the first five 151 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 2: round fight that they actually booked him for. So he 152 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 2: finished that fight credit to him. He was also losing 153 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 2: that first round, and you know, he wasn't given the 154 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 2: chance to prove his cardio because aside from the Pewterian fight, 155 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 2: which he lost the majority of that fight. Maybe there's 156 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 2: a you know, an argument that he edged out two 157 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 2: of the rounds, but if you take the majority of 158 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 2: the fight, if you score it under Pride rules, he 159 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 2: probably loses that fight. You know, he's had an awkward 160 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 2: run and I do think this is a good matchup 161 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 2: for him, just because of Cheetoh's willingness to seed minutes. 162 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 2: Cheeto isn't this He hits hard. He's probably one of 163 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 2: the harder hitters or more dangerous strikers that O'Malley's face. 164 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 2: It's not like he's this vicious, murderous power puncher. It's 165 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 2: probably going to end up in a close decision. The 166 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 2: fight is essentially lined to reach a decision. We'll see 167 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 2: if he gets there, but I think if it does, 168 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 2: it's probably has a chance of being a split, and 169 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 2: the third round may be super determinative of you know, 170 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 2: the momentum swing and how that third round is scored, 171 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 2: maybe determinative of the winner if it does end up 172 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 2: reaching the scorecards. There is another five round fight on 173 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 2: this car, though, and another fight involving a favorite who 174 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 2: has not proven his cardio across twenty five minutes, Ben 175 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 2: La Stany podcast favorite man oh Man, there was once 176 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 2: upon a time we were getting plus two sixty on 177 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 2: Ben La Saint Deny Gabrielle Bonfieme. Now you're basically getting 178 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 2: a similar price of Dustin Poorier against or against the 179 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 2: ben Roi Stani. I do like st Deinni in this fight. 180 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 2: I don't love the price. I think I can justify 181 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 2: laying it even at this number, but I don't want to. 182 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 2: I'd probably prefer the under two and a half here 183 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 2: at minus one fifteen. I've seen Santini get steamed, and 184 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 2: I've seen the over one and a half rounds gets stemed, 185 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 2: and to me, those outcomes aren't necessarily correlated to one another. 186 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 2: I would tend to think that a longer fight favors 187 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 2: Dustin Poier, who has been five rounds in the past, 188 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 2: who looked great in the back end of his fight 189 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 2: against Dan Hooker that roughed up early, was down on 190 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 2: the scorecards, ended up rallying back and looking like the 191 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 2: fresherman down the stretch. Now, the one problem with Poier 192 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 2: is he does not face grapplers particularly often. The last 193 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 2: grappler he really faced, Michael Chandler, who ended up submitting, 194 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 2: was holding him down and controlling him for big portions 195 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 2: of that fight until he gassed out and Dustin got 196 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 2: the neck and choked him out. But I think he's 197 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 2: really struggle with the pace of pressure of Satani. Stani 198 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 2: tries to fight like a lightweight Morab debash Phili, throws 199 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 2: a big bodykick, enters the pocket, gets in the clinch, 200 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 2: and then just starts going to work on you. And 201 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 2: even though this guy's only been training MMA for six years, 202 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 2: it seems like he has been grappling longer than that. 203 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 2: It's in the French Special Forces. I'm sure he was 204 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 2: doing some sort of grappling when he was in the military, 205 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 2: just because his jiu jitsu and his whole game, the 206 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 2: coherence of his game seems to be much more developed 207 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 2: than a guy who's only been fighting for six years. Billy, 208 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 2: I'm sure you could assess that better than I can. 209 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 2: But doesn't have the best hands, has a really good 210 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 2: bodykick and uses that bodykick to get in where he 211 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 2: wants to in order to start the grappling, and from 212 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 2: there he's really tough to get off of you. The pace, 213 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 2: the pressure tends to melt his opponents. He's finished every 214 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 2: opponent inside the distance. I like him to win this 215 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 2: fight inside the distance at minus one fifty. Projected that 216 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 2: closer to minus one seventy five minus one eighty, so 217 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 2: I think he can justify playing that instead of his 218 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 2: money line, and he's got twenty five minutes to get 219 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 2: it done. I show a sleigh value out his knockout 220 00:09:58,080 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 2: prop as well, Billy. I know that's a bet that 221 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 2: you like for this fight, but I'm probably going with 222 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 2: the under two and a half here. At minus one 223 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 2: fifteen for my favorite way to play it. As I said, 224 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 2: the over one and a half getting juiced up. This 225 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 2: pace should be absolutely chaotic, and I think BSc is 226 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 2: going to give Pois a lot of opportunities to land 227 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 2: boxing as he's coming in and potentially get a lot 228 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 2: of opportunities to get Dustin's back and finished with the choke. 229 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 2: You like BSc in this fight too, Billy, I do. 230 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 4: And you know what really concerned me when I started 231 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 4: looking for it. Poyer is coming off a bad knockout. 232 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 4: It was seven months ago. I'm not worried about the 233 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:32,199 Speaker 4: turnaround time on that knockout specifically. What I am worried 234 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 4: about is, you know, he's a lightweight over thirty five, 235 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 4: which we always talk about. There's all the stats, had 236 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 4: thirty seven professional fights, three knockout losses, a lot of those. 237 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 4: You know, even that he won, he took a lot 238 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 4: of damage. I don't know that we see Dustin Poye 239 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:49,679 Speaker 4: kind of ever recover to what he was following that 240 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 4: knockout by Justin Gaegee. Like, I'm not sure that that 241 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 4: knockout or that kick would have knocked him out even 242 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 4: a few years ago. Is the other factor there, So yeah, 243 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 4: I just don't trust his durability at this point. BSD 244 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 4: not a great technical striker, but he throws everything hard, 245 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 4: especially headkicks with his you know, power leg coming from 246 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 4: the rear. 247 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 2: I like the. 248 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 4: Knockout angle because he can grapple his way into a knockout. 249 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 4: Poier is a BJJ black belt, probably not going to 250 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 4: be submitted. He's been submitted a couple of times, but 251 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 4: he's been submitted by Charles olivera who've beenn Mamranga made 252 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 4: off and I don't know, somebody bad like a million 253 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 4: years ago when he was starting out that we're going 254 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 4: to look past a little bit for the sake of 255 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 4: my argument. Bsd's got some good submissions. Obviously, does some grappling, 256 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 4: like you pointed out. You know, I trained with some 257 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:33,439 Speaker 4: like Marine Corps guys every once in a while, and 258 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 4: they come in kind of like blue belt level with 259 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 4: the stuff that they learned. I'd imagine French Special Forces 260 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 4: as even a step beyond that with their skill set, 261 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 4: and then on the other end of. 262 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,599 Speaker 2: That probably knife fighting and allt jiu jitsu at the 263 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:46,079 Speaker 2: same time. 264 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, but even that, you're holding the guy down right 265 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 4: you want to you want a knife fight a guy 266 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 4: from on top of him, not you know, from off 267 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 4: your back. So there's something to that, I think. But uh, 268 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:56,559 Speaker 4: and then if you don't see that in the first 269 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 4: couple of rounds he does some damage. You know, maybe 270 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 4: I'm wrong on Poyer's chin. I think it is a 271 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 4: good spot to go live on Poier as well. 272 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:04,719 Speaker 5: Not only have we not. 273 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 4: Seen BSD over an extended period of time, that level 274 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 4: of aggression. You know, you called him a lightweight morab 275 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 4: carrying all that extra muscle. I can't imagine that holds 276 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 4: up well in the fourth and fifth rounds. There's some 277 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 4: guys that it does. It kind of defies all logic. 278 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 4: They are very few and far between. If he fought 279 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 4: a more cautious style, if he fought more like Poier, 280 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 4: staying in the pocket boxing kind of conserving his energy, 281 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 4: maybe it would hold up. But between his body type 282 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 4: and his fighting style, I have a lot of doubts 283 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 4: about his cardio. And yeah, your point not the line 284 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:35,079 Speaker 4: movement is kind of like negatively correlated places where you 285 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:38,439 Speaker 4: can parlay you know, BSD and under whatever round you 286 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 4: want to pick Poier and over if you want to 287 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 4: do this pre fight. I think there's an angle to 288 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,319 Speaker 4: that too. I'd rather just wait for the live you 289 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 4: know I'm getting. You can get as high as plus 290 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 4: three forty on BSD by knockout, which seems longer than 291 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 4: it should be to me, And then if you get 292 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 4: Poyer coming back live at plus two hundred or something 293 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 4: later in the fight, you're kind of good almost every 294 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 4: way it goes. 295 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 2: Talk about our the night Kevin Holland and Michael Venom 296 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:06,559 Speaker 2: Page MVP joining the UFC a bit older than I 297 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 2: would have liked to see him come over coming off 298 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 2: of a loss to Michael Perry in Barre Knuckle Fighting 299 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 2: Championship as well, so absorb some damage with some bare 300 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 2: knuckles outside of MMA gloves. And he's complained a little 301 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 2: bit about the UFC gloves and not necessarily loving the 302 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 2: fit of them, which you know, I think is an 303 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 2: interesting factor to consider. Just if you end up grappling 304 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 2: like being unfamiliar with the glove, less comfortable with it, 305 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 2: maybe you don't have grip strength that you normally would. 306 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 2: But Holland, five years younger, has the reach advantage here 307 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 2: two inch reach advantage, and he's also the better grappler, 308 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 2: and I don't necessarily know if he's going to pursue 309 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 2: the grappling, but you still do need to bake it 310 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 2: into the handicap, and that makes Holland the justifiable favorite, 311 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 2: more output, longer, and also the grappling upside in addition 312 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 2: to the youth advantage. Technically, I think Page is a 313 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 2: better striker, but Holland just you know, is going to 314 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 2: have more output. Ultimately, this probably ends if Holland is 315 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 2: sides to strike it out by split decision, and I 316 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 2: do like the fight to go to a decision at 317 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 2: minus one fifty. I think, you know, Page throws a 318 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 2: lot of power behind his shots, but Holland is a 319 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 2: pretty durable guy. I think the likeliest way this one 320 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 2: finishes is Holland via submission, and I don't know if 321 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 2: he's likely to pursue the grappling, so I like this 322 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 2: to go to a decision. 323 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 3: At minus one fifty. 324 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 2: Billy, I know you like a side on the money line, 325 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 2: but yeah, I'd take either fight or by decision if 326 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 2: I was poking the props or just to fight GTD. 327 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, I do like Michael Venham Page here. And there's 328 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 4: two parts. Well, A few parts to it. The first 329 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 4: is you pointed out Holland should have a grappling advantage. 330 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 4: Michael Page doesn't offensively grapple at all. He you know, 331 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 4: I'll actually I forget the guy's name, but he thought 332 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 4: a you know, four time d one all American got 333 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 4: taken down. Yeah, there you go, and he was able 334 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 4: to get up almost every time. He wasn't taking a 335 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 4: lot of damage. In a perfect world or in the 336 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 4: world that I'd like to live in, if you're getting 337 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 4: taken down a bunch of times and don't do anything 338 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 4: on your feet, you should still loose the round. That 339 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 4: has not been what we've seen in the UFC lately. 340 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 4: You're almost penalized for takedowns if you don't do enough 341 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 4: with it. So that's you know, part one, Part two. 342 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 4: I think there's a little bit of UFC bias baked 343 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 4: into this line. I have to imagine that people like 344 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 4: they just think that everything else is a step below 345 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 4: the UFC, and to a degree that's the right angle. 346 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 4: I don't know if that necessarily holds up at the 347 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 4: high end, especially with someone like MVP. And then the 348 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 4: last one though, is just if it were anyone other 349 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 4: than Kevin Holland, who had a grappling edge, I'd say, sure, 350 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 4: that's worth baking into the line. Kevin Holland frequently has 351 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 4: a grappling edge and frequently lets guys up to continue 352 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 4: getting beat up, like we saw against Thompson. I think 353 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 4: Wonder Boy's actually kind of an interesting comparison for this fight. 354 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 4: Both have the traditional martial arts styles, you know, hands low, 355 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 4: looking the counter, and react, except Michael Page is like 356 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 4: four thousand times more athletic than Stephen Thompson. He's just 357 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 4: a faster, quicker, more explosive version of that. So, given 358 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 4: how Holland struggled on the feet, given that we know 359 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 4: Holland doesn't make good decisions for lack of a better term, 360 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 4: and then sneaky one here. 361 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 5: This is in Miami. 362 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 4: If anyone's out here party in the night before the 363 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 4: fight having a good time, it might just be Kevin Holland. 364 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 4: It's kind of like the visiting team in the NBA 365 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 4: when they go to Miami for the first time all year. 366 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 5: You gotta bake that in. 367 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 4: I'm mostly kidding on that angle, but like, really, if 368 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 4: there's anyone on this card who is going to be not. 369 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 5: As focused as they should be. 370 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 4: That's probably also Kevin Holland, So slight plus money on MVP. 371 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 4: I'm seeing plus one fifteen wouldn't go much beyond that. 372 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 4: I do think it's likely enough to go to a decision. 373 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 4: I agree with your take. I think MVP's probably got 374 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 4: the better odds of stopping it here, just giving his 375 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 4: explosive ability, weird kicks and stuff like that. So if 376 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 4: you're playing MVP, I'm not playing him by decision because 377 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 4: his knockout equity needs to be baked into that line 378 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 4: for me to take it. But if you're not convinced 379 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 4: by a side, I also agree with that Holland is 380 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 4: very durable. Like the only TKO was against Thompson, but 381 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 4: that was more because his hand was broken, So don't 382 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 4: think that we can necessarily bank on that repeating. 383 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, he was. 384 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 2: Having a lot of success in that fight against Thompson 385 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 2: until he broke his hand. I think it was the 386 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 2: big punch he landed in the first round was what 387 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 2: ultimately broke, and he's sort of welt it away from there. 388 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 2: He just doesn't shoot takedowns that often, and it seemed 389 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:07,880 Speaker 2: like if a Thompson fight, they almost had a gentleman's 390 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 2: agreement that they weren't going to grapple. He would land 391 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 2: a takedown to sort of break up the pressure, and 392 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 2: then he would let Stephen Thompson up. And there's a 393 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 2: chance that he he signed a you know, behind the 394 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 2: scenes contract with the UFC here and agreed to strike 395 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 2: it out with Paige and not over takedowns. Could be 396 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 2: a fun fight to that point. 397 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, Like, I think Kevin Holland knows why they made 398 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 4: this matchup, right, Like he's not. He's didn't Like, he's like, oh, 399 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 4: they brought me in to fight Michael Venham Paige so 400 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 4: I could put on a wrestling clinic and try to 401 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 4: hold him against the page for fifteen minutes. That's not 402 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 4: what he's about. That's not why they made this matchup. 403 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 4: I think everyone knows what the score is here. He 404 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 4: could shock me. But like literally, nothing we've ever seen 405 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 4: from Kevin Holland would suggest he's all of a sudden 406 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 4: going to try to win at any costs rather than 407 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:48,120 Speaker 4: be fun and be Kevin Holland. 408 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:49,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a company man. 409 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:51,719 Speaker 2: He's getting paid to be entertaining, not to go out 410 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 2: and win fights, to go out a title run. So 411 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 2: I think Kevin Holland being paid here, knows the moment, 412 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 2: knows the debut opponent he's getting. He's not going to 413 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 2: be taking down Michael Lenham Page have the crowd in 414 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 2: Miami booing and him. 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Must be twenty one or older. 422 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 1: Gambling problem called one eight hundred gambler. 423 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 2: Let's go to our favorite underdogs of the night. Billy, 424 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 2: you're going with another main card fight, Gilbert Burns against 425 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 2: Jack Della Matt Atlanta. I think we were both on basil. 426 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 2: Hefez at a huge price the last time Della Matt 427 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 2: Atlanta fought almost cash that ticket. Feel like We've had 428 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 2: a number of underdogs recently that were good bets that 429 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 2: ultimately did not cash. Taking another shot against Jack Bella here. 430 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 4: Well, I will say, you know, not to toot my 431 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 4: own torn too much. I took the plus three and 432 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 4: a half rounds on Basil, so catch the ticket at 433 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:02,679 Speaker 4: like not quite the same prime. I think it was 434 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 4: like plus eight fifty money line, and I got like 435 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 4: plus three hundred on the spread, but just by virtue 436 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 4: of him winning around. But no, I was thinking about it, 437 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 4: and you know, I'm the guy that does the luck 438 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 4: ratings and looked back at split decisions and weird outcomes 439 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 4: caused by injury. Then you look back both of jdn's 440 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 4: last two wins or split decisions, one over Kevin holland 441 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,360 Speaker 4: one over Basila Fez. Don't really disagree with any of them, 442 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 4: but it's still telling us he's not just mauling people 443 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 4: on his way to fighting the top ten. It's kind 444 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 4: of the theme of this card is we have a guy, 445 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 4: you know, back end of the rankings, young guy coming 446 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 4: up fighting this established title contender. The other ones have 447 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 4: been much more dominant on their run to the top. 448 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 4: I'm count dryld no meta we'll talk about counting BSD. 449 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:46,880 Speaker 4: You know, those guys have been extremely dominant against lower 450 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 4: level competition. Jack Dela Madeleine is kind of sneaking by 451 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 4: on some split decisions. And then on the other side, 452 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 4: Gilbert Burns's last loss was against Blah Mohammad. Took that 453 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 4: fight on less than a month and like tore his 454 00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 4: shoulder what seemed to be like two minutes into the fight. 455 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 4: So that doesn't really tell us that he couldn't have 456 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 4: won that fight, you know, had he been at full strength, 457 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:06,439 Speaker 4: just kind of like a systems player or whatever. For me, 458 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 4: when you got a guy coming down two split decision 459 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 4: wins as a favorite, other guy coming in on a 460 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 4: questionable loss as an underdog, feels like I can't not 461 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 4: take that one plus one forty five. 462 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,120 Speaker 2: And Birds's massive grappling upside here, not only in terms 463 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 2: of finishing the fight getting a submission, but also just 464 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 2: holding Jack down for extended stretches. I really didn't like 465 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 2: the looks from Jack in the Jfes fight, where Hafees 466 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 2: was clearly shooting in and instead of trying to move 467 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 2: away or avoid the takedown, Jack was literally standing his 468 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 2: round and just winging hooks in the center of the cage. 469 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:37,199 Speaker 2: He was accepting the takedowns now. Gilbert Burns is not 470 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 2: as aggressive pursuing the takedown. Doesn't have the best cardio, 471 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 2: tends to manage it a little bit more so, not 472 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,439 Speaker 2: going to pursue those takedowns as aggressive. He may not 473 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 2: even get them as successfully. I don't think he's the 474 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 2: best wrestler, but if he does get this fight to 475 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 2: the ground, he may only need one to finish it. 476 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 2: I mean, this guy is one of the best submission 477 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 2: grapplers in the UFC. Obviously did not look great in 478 00:20:57,600 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 2: his last fight against Bala Mohammed. I think we can 479 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 2: get him a slight pass for the injuries stand in 480 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 2: that fight, in addition to the short notice. But I 481 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 2: also think he's on the back end of his career 482 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 2: and is declining, whereas Jack Della is the better athlete, 483 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 2: younger and certainly improving. 484 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 3: On the way up. 485 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 2: I like this fight to go under minus one fifty 486 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 2: to the under two and a half rounds. I think 487 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 2: Burns could absolutely land a knockout, you know, threatening a 488 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 2: takedown Jack drops his hands. Burns has huge power, while 489 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 2: kmorrow Usman could absolutely hurt Jack knock him out if 490 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 2: he gets this fight on the ground. Absolutely think he 491 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 2: can give a submission, but also Burns is not the 492 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 2: most durable guy. Jack is really Chris boxing, so could 493 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 2: definitely see Jack knocking Burns out fairly quickly too. Under 494 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 2: two and a half, I think is an interesting look 495 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 2: here Burns by submission. The other way, I'd probably play it. 496 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 2: In terms of my favorite underdog, I actually have an 497 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 2: underdog for my best bet on this card, So going 498 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 2: to save my quote unquote favorite underdog for later. But 499 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 2: what other underdog I really like? May bet him pre fight? 500 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 2: Definitely going to bet him live. That's Pedro Munoz, this 501 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 2: guy typically underrated by the betting markets. Now similar to 502 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 2: Chido Vera, he is at a disadvantage in terms of 503 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 2: the boxing, and he's probably going to fall behind just 504 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 2: by virtue of not landing as many head strikes as 505 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 2: Kyler Phillips. Kyler Phillips the better athlete, th Muno is 506 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 2: much quicker, but does not have as good of cardio 507 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 2: as Muno's. And also Munos is going to be employing 508 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 2: more of a nutritional game plan where he's going to 509 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 2: be hammering the legs trying to get Phillips to slow 510 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 2: down later in the fight, potentially having more success in 511 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 2: the second and third round. So I'm a little bit 512 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 2: interested in Muno's prefight, but I actually expect more of 513 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 2: his success to be backloaded here. I like him to 514 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 2: put a nutritional work early and for those dividends to 515 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 2: payoff later. So Pedro Munho is potentially a pre fight bet. 516 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:45,400 Speaker 2: Definitely love him live after round one. Think he could 517 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 2: take the second and third rounds as Phillips is potentially 518 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 2: slowing down Philly. 519 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:51,120 Speaker 3: Any thoughts on Munno's. 520 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I was tempted to just play his money line 521 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 4: earlier in the week. I'm not entirely sold on Kyler 522 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 4: Phillips again. Another one, as we've kind of seen Munos 523 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 4: the old vat been near the top of the division. 524 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 4: Kyler Phillips coming up fast, And actually I think more 525 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 4: worried about Kyler Phillips grappling than anything else. And I've 526 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 4: said it before in the past, got made fun of 527 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 4: by our esteam producer Matt Mitchell, but really hard to 528 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 4: keep taking a guy down who doesn't want to be 529 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 4: there and hold him down. So if it looks like 530 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 4: Kyler's selling out for takedowns and burning a lot of energy. 531 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 4: I think that makes a lot of sense on your angle. 532 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 4: I think that I'm not worried about Munnos in the boxing. 533 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 4: I think he should actually probably be at least as 534 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 4: good of a boxer here. I do worry about if 535 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 4: Kyler is able to control him on the ground. But 536 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 4: it's kind of just gonna be a live read for 537 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 4: me on whether it looks like a guest himself out 538 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 4: doing that or got some smooth takedowns and made the 539 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 4: other guy carry his weight the whole round. 540 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 2: We've covered the rest of the main card, done a 541 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,400 Speaker 2: pretty good job of it here. There is one fight 542 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 2: that we have not talked about though, Peter Yann against 543 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 2: Songy Dong. Pretty big fight in the Bandam weight division. 544 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 2: Yon former champion song You Dong potential future title contender, 545 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,479 Speaker 2: Yon minus one twenty five, probably getting a discount based 546 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 2: on you know, their past results, fact that Yan is 547 00:23:59,920 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 2: a former champion. 548 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 3: I think he is the better fighter, but this is 549 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 3: still a three. 550 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 2: Round fight, and Yon, Likeichido Vera, traditionally starts very slow, 551 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 2: gets his reads in the first round, and then eventually 552 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,360 Speaker 2: picks up the pace. To Cheeto's credit, his last fight 553 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 2: he did starts faster was again Pedro Munoz. He started 554 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 2: faster and actually won the first round in all three scorecards. 555 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 2: Curious to see if Yon finally makes that adjustment and 556 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 2: starts a little bit quicker here. I believe he lost 557 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 2: the first round on two out of three scorecards to 558 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,439 Speaker 2: Sean O'Malley. Even though he had some success there, that 559 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 2: round was still closer than it should have been. And 560 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 2: if Jan just lets his hands go a little bit 561 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 2: more in the first round, he probably wins that fight. 562 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 2: So Yan a slow starter. I think I'm kind of 563 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 2: interested in whoever's trailing here live after round one, or 564 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 2: especially if it's a close first round and you can 565 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,120 Speaker 2: get somebody a plus money live after round one. I'll 566 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 2: probably take whoever's trailing Between Yan and Ya Doong. I 567 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 2: think this fight probably goes to split decision at a 568 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 2: very high clip. You Dong better power, better athlete, but 569 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 2: Yan just is the better technical fighter, and I think 570 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 2: he's going to land more if shots just may not 571 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,400 Speaker 2: look quite as effective to the judges. So I think 572 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 2: this is gonna be one that's very difficult to score. 573 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 2: This was a twenty five minute fight. Would absolutely be 574 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 2: taking Yan HIMNUS one twenty five. I think the margins 575 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 2: for him are just too narrow in three round fights 576 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 2: to cover any sort of favorite price tag in a 577 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 2: fight that should be extremely competitive. Lean to the over 578 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 2: fight to go decision, it's very juiced up. You have 579 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 2: to be about minus two fifty or hired a ortle 580 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,199 Speaker 2: about that. So probably going to end up passing on 581 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 2: this fight. May livet whoever's down after round one. Billy, 582 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 2: do you have any thoughts on Song Ya Doong and piotr Yan? 583 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:36,120 Speaker 5: Yeah? 584 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 4: I haven't bet this one myself yet, might still get there. 585 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 4: I think Jan is the correct money line side, just 586 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,919 Speaker 4: based on the movement against him so much. But his 587 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,239 Speaker 4: only four losses in the UFC DQ against al Jo 588 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 4: fighter is probably winning split decision loss against al Jo, debatable, 589 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 4: highly debatable loss against Sean O'Malley also split decision, and 590 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 4: then Mirab does that to everyone like you don't lose 591 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 4: any points for getting dominated on the ground by Miron, right, 592 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 4: So I think he's probably the correct money line side. 593 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 4: I kind of look at it as a fairly binary 594 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 4: early versus late fight here where I think you Dom 595 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 4: needs a knockout or a finish or at least a 596 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 4: huge moment early on less active striker throws with less volume, 597 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 4: far less grappling than from Yan, far less takedowns per round, 598 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 4: but bigger power. So I think you know, as of now, 599 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:27,360 Speaker 4: I would play some combination of Yadong early and Yan late, 600 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,199 Speaker 4: or as you're pointing out in the live markets, I 601 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 4: do think you Doong looks good early. If he has 602 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:34,959 Speaker 4: that big moment, it's going to inflate the line on 603 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 4: Yon tremendously. So that's probably the sharper way as you're 604 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 4: pointing it out. Don't think I would live bat you 605 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 4: dom though, even if he falls behind, because if Yan 606 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 4: starts strong and we know he builds, it's almost like 607 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 4: it's only going to go one direction from where we 608 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 4: see on Yan. So if you got to do it 609 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 4: pre fight Yon decision, you know Yan over a certain 610 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 4: number rounds something like that, or other side song Ya 611 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 4: Doong knockout finish first couple of rounds, something like that. 612 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 4: But yeah, the live angle is probably this like the 613 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,160 Speaker 4: third time we're saying this this card, but the live 614 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 4: angle is probably the way to handle this one. 615 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 2: No, I think the only UH scenario in which I 616 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 2: live bet song is is if I think there's a 617 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 2: chance he won the first round and his price blows out, 618 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 2: like if he's plus two hundred after round one and 619 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 2: I'm like, I think there's you know, a chance you 620 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 2: gave it to him if it's a close round. 621 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 3: That's probably the only scenario in which I bet him. 622 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 3: You're I think you're right. 623 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 2: Otherwise I'd probably be looking to target Yahn at the 624 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 2: same price or better than he his pre fight. I'm 625 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,880 Speaker 2: gonna go ahead and rearrange, uh, you know, our top 626 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 2: props and best bets here, just so it's a bit 627 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 2: more coherent because there's a couple of fights in common 628 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 2: that we want to talk about. The first of which 629 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,159 Speaker 2: is Rebel's the span against Josh Breeze and Rebels to 630 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 2: Spain the big boy, biggest reach in UFC history, eighty 631 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 2: four inch reach, six foot seven heavyweight. I think he's 632 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 2: an Olympic bronze medalist in taekwondo from Cuba, loves the 633 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 2: head kick. Past three wins have all come in twenty 634 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 2: seconds or last I think twenty seconds combined. His past 635 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:01,919 Speaker 2: three wins each yeah, and against completely untested competition. I 636 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 2: think one of his opponents has faced one other opponent, 637 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 2: and nobody else has fought in MMA, so we don't 638 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 2: know anything about Rebela's the Spade other than the fact 639 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 2: that he's really tall and really good. 640 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 3: At kicking people in the head. 641 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 2: I think this fight to end inside the first two 642 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 2: and a half minutes the under zero point five rounds 643 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,880 Speaker 2: at plus two hundred is kind of a fun way 644 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 2: to bet it because that does seem like the majority 645 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 2: of the spades wing condition. Alternatively, the fight to end 646 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 2: in round one is juiced up to like minus two hundred, 647 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 2: so you're getting a bit more of a bump on 648 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 2: the first half of the first round instead of getting 649 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 2: the entirety of the first round. Billy, I think you 650 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 2: like Josh person to potentially survive here and then turn 651 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 2: the tables. 652 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're setting me up for failure here. I'm taking 653 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 4: a plus thirteen hundred. You know, flyer under Aspresian, don't 654 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 4: at me when it gets knocked out in twenty seconds. 655 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 4: I understand that, like the that's the likeliest outcome here. 656 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 4: You know, Parisian is definitely not a great athlete by 657 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 4: UFC standards, one of the lower level heavyweights. With that said, 658 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 4: he's still a jiu jitsu brown belt who's been competing 659 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 4: in MMA for fifteen years. Trains under my buddy James 660 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 4: Gray out in Brighton, which is like a grappling focused 661 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 4: school they have there at Scorpion Fighting System. There's a 662 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 4: reason we've never seen another taekwondo olympian in the UFC. 663 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 4: This is the very first one. They carry their hands low, 664 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 4: they get points for touching, they're not allowed to punch 665 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,239 Speaker 4: to the head, and they're zero grappling. None of that 666 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 4: is a great setup for you know, MMA. I grew 667 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 4: up doing taekwondo, so I'm not just you know, bad 668 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 4: mouthing it for no reason. Despine's athletic advantage will probably 669 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 4: mean that Pregian can't take him down, and then it 670 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 4: ends for Pregian fast. But what if he does, because 671 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 4: this guy has no ground game that we've ever seen. 672 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 4: All of his opponents on the regional scene where guys 673 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 4: with like boxing and kickboxing backgrounds like they were all 674 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 4: hand picked to make the big boy look exciting, make 675 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 4: the big goalie look fun, make him look like a 676 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 4: thing we really don't know. And this guy who's thirty five, 677 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 4: he has been training and grappling for like three or 678 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 4: four years. You know, he's effectively like a low level 679 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 4: blue belt at this point. Presian is actually no slouch 680 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 4: on the ground. You know, it's hard for him to 681 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 4: get it there, given that he's not the fastest, not 682 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,239 Speaker 4: the strongest. Thirteen to one odds on a submission if 683 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:07,719 Speaker 4: he's going to win, I think that's how almost how 684 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 4: it has to be. If they're on the feet for 685 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 4: more than a minute or two, he probably ends up unconscious. 686 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 4: I don't know that it would be a smart game 687 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 4: plan for Prejian to try to finish him on the 688 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 4: ground with strikes when there's such an easily available option 689 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 4: with submissions there So thirteen to one odds. No one 690 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 4: in the YouTube comments yell at me when it gets 691 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 4: knocked out. I understand that's probably what's going to happen. 692 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 4: It's thirteen to one, though, and like that's how that 693 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 4: should be his money line. Not quite, but like it 694 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 4: should be considerably closer to his money line, should be 695 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 4: the most likely outcome. I think for Pregian, he ain't 696 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 4: gonna win a decision because they stand them up at 697 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 4: the start of every round. 698 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 3: So assuming Presian live after round one as well. 699 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 5: I don't what do you mean after round one? There's 700 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 5: not gonna be after round one? Here, come on, let's 701 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 5: get out of here. 702 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. 703 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 4: Maybe, Honestly, I don't know, now that you make me 704 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 4: think about it. The Taekwindos style, if nothing else, is 705 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 4: not very energy intense savior, flicking out kicks, being fast, 706 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 4: kind of dartn in and out. It's not like he's 707 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 4: a wrestler's gonna burn his tank out. 708 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 5: I don't know. Let's hope we don't have to watch 709 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 5: more than one or two rounds of this. 710 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 4: I think we're gonna know fairly quickly whether Despine you 711 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 4: can defend a take down and that's gonna that's gonna 712 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 4: figure it out one way or the other. Your pick 713 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 4: is perfectly like getting him in under half round and 714 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 4: plus one eighty. I think if he's gonna win, that's 715 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 4: probably pretty likely how that happens as well, Like we're. 716 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 5: Gonna tak it up. 717 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 2: You could play that in the same game parlay as well, 718 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 2: juice it up just a little bit further. But I 719 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 2: think the under one and a half or the under 720 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 2: half a round of plus one eighty probably fine enough. 721 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 2: You could also bet first minute finish at some books. 722 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 2: As well, So to make sure to take a look 723 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 2: for that. Just just Spain wins, it's probably gonna be 724 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 2: on the first exchange. Another prop that I like quite 725 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 2: a bit Jaelton Almeida by submission at plus three eighty, 726 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 2: we're to win in rounds one or two. At plus 727 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 2: two hundred, he doesn't really go for the ground and pound. 728 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 2: I think there's a chance though, that he just catches 729 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 2: Curtis Blades on the feet. You know, Curtis Blade, who 730 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 2: is worried about getting taken down. Potentially Jaelton lifts up 731 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 2: a kick and clips them and knocks him out. Blazes 732 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 2: is not of a good chin. He's also a skittish 733 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 2: in his recent fights, especially since the Derrek Lewis knockout. 734 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 2: Even his fight against Rosenstrike, when he was going for takedowns, 735 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 2: rosen Strike would land a short little hooking tight and 736 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 2: Blades was like completely freaking out that he was getting hit. 737 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 2: So I just don't love the optics from Curtis Blades. 738 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 2: I love how he's talking in interviews. He seems like 739 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 2: he's taken a lot of damage throughout his career, doesn't 740 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 2: seem to just be fully engaged anymore. I think I 741 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 2: have a theory actually about Curtis Blades that a lot 742 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 2: of people who played UFC for the video game still 743 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 2: view Curtis Blades as its formal title challenger because having 744 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 2: played the game, Curtis Blades was like this impossible heavyweight 745 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 2: to beat in terms of video game skills, because he's 746 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 2: humongous and has this wrestling and clinching ability and you 747 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 2: can't do anything with him. And I think for that reason, 748 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 2: people kind of overrate his actual skills. In real life, 749 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 2: he's going to get taken down by Jelton Omda. 750 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 4: Here. 751 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 2: Jelton is the much better athlete. I know he's smaller, 752 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 2: but he's the much better athlete. He's freakishly strong, and 753 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 2: he's the much better submission grappler. If Blades tries to 754 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 2: initiate the wrestling, I think Jaelton is going to reverse 755 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 2: him and end up submitting him. I think Blades needs 756 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 2: to keep this on the feet, counter grapple. It's what 757 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 2: he's talked about doing. He said he needs to employ 758 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 2: that kind of justin Gatchee game plan, counter grapple, keep 759 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 2: this on the feet and knock Jelton out. I like 760 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 2: Jaelthon to turn this into a grappling match and to 761 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 2: either win by decision or to likelier submit Curtis Blade. 762 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 2: So Jaelton all made up by submission to Paul three eighty. 763 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 2: I think he got it done when the first couple 764 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 2: of rounds, Billy, you're going with Jailton as your best bet. 765 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I took him on the money line you could 766 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 4: get I think his highest plus one ten when I 767 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 4: did the luck ratings. 768 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 5: But you kind of feed up a lot of the 769 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 5: reasons why. 770 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 4: You know, Blades is bigger than Jiyleton, former light heavyweight, 771 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 4: you know, kind of just I think he saw how 772 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 4: much worse the heavyweight division was on the whole and 773 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 4: was like, I don't have to cut weight and I 774 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 4: get to fight worse guys most of the time. Cool, 775 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 4: sign me up. But you know, Blades is bigger, But 776 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 4: Blades isn't as big as Derek Lewis. And Gylton racked 777 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 4: up twenty one minutes to control time against Derek Lewis 778 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 4: in a twenty five minute fight. I know Lewis isn't 779 00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 4: a great grappler. Nobody does that to Derek Lewis. He 780 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 4: kind of just takes his deep breath and gets up. 781 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 4: He's been able to do that against pretty much everyone 782 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 4: other than Jileton Amida. The other factor here is, you know, 783 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 4: Blades wants to keep this standing and try to knock 784 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,360 Speaker 4: him out. Blades has been able to box or strike 785 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 4: with the knowledge that his opponents are worried about takedown's 786 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 4: and he is not. That has been his whole career. 787 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 4: He's been able to, you know, kind of take some 788 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 4: wilder swings, step in a little bit more heavy, have 789 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 4: more weight on the front leg, all of those things 790 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 4: that you don't do when you're worried about the takedown 791 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 4: coming back. So if he breaks that habit, I don't 792 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 4: know how well his boxing plays against Almeida, and if 793 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 4: he doesn't break that habit, he ends up on his back. 794 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 4: You could make the similar argument against Gilton, where he's 795 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 4: never fought another guy with this level of grappling. I 796 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 4: don't think it matters man, Gileton is he looks unstoppable. 797 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,319 Speaker 4: I was talking about it earlier, guys on the way 798 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 4: up who've just dominated everyone. The only reason I'm not 799 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 4: on your side of things is, as you mentioned, not 800 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 4: a lot of grounded pound. He's kind of content to 801 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 4: be on top if you give him a submission, he'll 802 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,400 Speaker 4: take it. If it's not there, he's just gonna win 803 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 4: this round. And the way he fought against Derek Lewis 804 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 4: didn't really He looked for an arm triangle choke early 805 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,479 Speaker 4: and when that wasn't there, kind of never anything else. 806 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 4: We could argue that he was kind of just trying 807 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 4: to prove to people he can do five rounds. I 808 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 4: think there's an element of that, but that scared me 809 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 4: just enough that against an inferior grappler in Lewis, he 810 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 4: didn't see an opportunity didn't take it. I could see 811 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,399 Speaker 4: this playing out similarly, especially at you know, around even money. 812 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,239 Speaker 4: I got slight plus money earlier in the week, so yeah, 813 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 4: it's playing his money line. 814 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:23,360 Speaker 5: I think minus one oh five or so. 815 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,720 Speaker 4: Now I'd play this down to like minus one thirty 816 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,720 Speaker 4: minus one forty. I think he should be a moderate 817 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 4: favorite here. 818 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 2: I actually think Derek Lewis's lack of like grappling acumen 819 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 2: is what kept him safe in that fight, because he 820 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,799 Speaker 2: just sort of, you know, he turtled up, he stayed in, 821 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 2: he stayed in. Defensive mountain was the greatest defensive mountain 822 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 2: performance in the history of MMA. But you know Curtis 823 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 2: Blades is going to actually try to get up or 824 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 2: roll over, and I think he's going to put himself 825 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,239 Speaker 2: in positions to get finished. I doubt he's going to 826 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 2: just accept bottom position. You know there's an ego thing 827 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,759 Speaker 2: there too, getting out wrestled, getting out grappled when you 828 00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:00,160 Speaker 2: consider yourself probably the better wrestler, I'm sure you will 829 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 2: try to prove that you can actually reverse positions and 830 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 2: get on top. But yes, Cheltonel made the side for 831 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:08,399 Speaker 2: both of us. More grappling upside against the wrestler at 832 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 2: a Pickham price. My best bet going with McCall Olex 833 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 2: Say Chuck podcast favorite definitely cashing tickets on the call 834 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 2: in the past against Michelle Pereira, another podcast favorite. I 835 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 2: think this is a bad matchup for Pereira though he 836 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,720 Speaker 2: does not like getting pressured, and typically he's the hammer 837 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,240 Speaker 2: not the nail. Here he is very much the nail, 838 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 2: especially early nobody pressures like Lord McCall. He's also looked 839 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:39,880 Speaker 2: incredibly powerful since moving down and wait the pressure, the boxing, 840 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 2: I think it's going to be really dangerous for Prairily, 841 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 2: he's going to get backed up against the fence. He's 842 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 2: the guy who likes space. He likes to create chaos 843 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 2: when he has that space, even more so now in 844 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 2: his career he's become a less chaotic fighter. He does 845 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 2: have the grappling upside here. I think he could potentily 846 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:59,959 Speaker 2: potentially land a takedown and threaten some chokes from McCall oaks. Huck, 847 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:04,040 Speaker 2: especially for the first round, is an absolute handful. Always 848 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,440 Speaker 2: like to bet his money line, Always like to sprinkle 849 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 2: that round one prop getting about plus five hundred or 850 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 2: better on this fight, gotten his highest plus nine hundred 851 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,920 Speaker 2: in the past. The collax State Chuck on the money 852 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 2: line has the striking advantage, should win the early minutes, 853 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 2: and I think of this weight class against this opponent, 854 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 2: he actually has a fairly neutral cardio bantle as well 855 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 2: and should be able to maintain it over the course 856 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 2: of fifteen minutes. So just think he has more ways 857 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 2: to win. Pereira probably has to grapple successfully if he 858 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,439 Speaker 2: wants to break the pressure win this fight. Billy, any 859 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,279 Speaker 2: thoughts on Old State Chuck against Peyrer before we get 860 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:35,840 Speaker 2: out of here. 861 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 5: No, I like that, and one thing you kind of 862 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:38,759 Speaker 5: alluded to it, But Ola J. 863 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,600 Speaker 4: Chuck former light heavyweight, you know, kind of struggled against 864 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 4: the bigger, stronger guys there. Paid a former welterweight kind 865 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,799 Speaker 4: of struggled against the scales there. But I think a 866 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:49,759 Speaker 4: lot of his success was due to being so much 867 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:51,799 Speaker 4: bigger and stronger than his opponents in a way that's 868 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 4: probably not going to be there now. So, yeah, it's 869 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:55,759 Speaker 4: great if you can grapple, but if you're all of 870 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 4: a sudden facing someone stronger than you for the first 871 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,239 Speaker 4: time in your career and trying to wrestle him, maybe 872 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 4: that doesn't work. So like where you're coming from, you 873 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:03,960 Speaker 4: have sold me on it, even though it's not a 874 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,239 Speaker 4: bet I've made yet, so I will be rushing to 875 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:07,400 Speaker 4: do that as soon as we get off this. 876 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:09,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, sawas heigest plus one thirty, it did't seem like 877 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:11,560 Speaker 2: it was coming down today, so probably gonna jump in 878 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 2: on that at plus one thirty, projected it closer to 879 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 2: plus one fifteen, and that'll do it for us for 880 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,319 Speaker 2: the UFC two nine at nine betting preview on the 881 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:22,399 Speaker 2: Action Network podcast presented by bet MGM. 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