Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome back to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.
Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford, joined as always by my trusted
Speaker 1: colleague West Hodkowitz. We are coming to you once again
Speaker 1: social distancing style. I'm actually in the Vince Lombardi boardroom
Speaker 1: at lambeau Field, as you can see, Sir Vince behind me. West,
Speaker 1: You're still on the bonus room above the garage. But
Speaker 1: we will roll with it like this for a little
Speaker 1: while as training camp is underway, and then see where
Speaker 1: this season takes us. But what I just said is
Speaker 1: really the key phrase. Training camp is underway. Training camp
Speaker 1: finally is underway, Mike, And what does that mean? That
Speaker 1: means we have football to talk about again, and that's
Speaker 1: a positive thing. It was a heck of an offseason.
Speaker 1: I've said this time and time again. I know inbox
Speaker 1: readers got tired of me saying it. That was about
Speaker 1: is challenging of an offseason as I've covered, uh not
Speaker 1: not just as a Packers beat writer, but just in
Speaker 1: general of doing this as a profession. I mean so
Speaker 1: many of us. The line you have to walk there
Speaker 1: is you don't want to beat the dead horse. You
Speaker 1: also want to provide people with a service and let
Speaker 1: people know what is going on and where things are at.
Speaker 1: It just moved at such a snail's pace this offseason
Speaker 1: until we finally got to this point. The positive thing
Speaker 1: is you're healthy. I'm healthy healthy. Larry McCarron is healthy.
Speaker 1: We've got to August now, agreement packers have put their
Speaker 1: protocols in place, and now everybody in a cautiously optimistic way,
Speaker 1: hoping we can have football here within the next month. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and we certainly hope you and yours, all of you
Speaker 1: watching listening to the return of our show here that
Speaker 1: you are safe and healthy as well. The start of
Speaker 1: training camp obviously very different from other years. The main
Speaker 1: thing that has been going on thus far over the
Speaker 1: last several days is the COVID testing. All the players
Speaker 1: are getting listed on a daily basis, and as far
Speaker 1: as the work of training camp goes, it's been meetings
Speaker 1: and it's been some playbook walkthrough type of exercises. There's
Speaker 1: going to be a slow ramp up here to the
Speaker 1: full contact, padded practices that are the tradition of training camp.
Speaker 1: Those are going to start somewhere around the middle of August.
Speaker 1: So we have a little while yet before we get
Speaker 1: to that point. But then once those start, it's going
Speaker 1: to be a few weeks of those padded practices to
Speaker 1: get ready for week one, because West, there are no
Speaker 1: preseason games this summer. There are not, Mike, And to
Speaker 1: be perfectly honest with you, I was really a huge
Speaker 1: fan of the ramp up period idea. These guys didn't
Speaker 1: have an offseason, a physical offseason program. Certainly Matt Lafleur
Speaker 1: felt like there was a great value and then being
Speaker 1: able to to stay home, stay in their playbooks and
Speaker 1: get to know the system. But you and I both
Speaker 1: know the game changes once you hit the practice field,
Speaker 1: and these guys need an acclamation period. This is how
Speaker 1: I feel personally to be able to get back into
Speaker 1: the groove here in a day to that it will
Speaker 1: also allows them the early window there to test guys,
Speaker 1: to get a barometer of what they're looking at in
Speaker 1: terms of COVID cases coming in and hopefully keeping them
Speaker 1: out once practices do begin. Now, all that being said,
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers in his conference call with reporters on Monday,
Speaker 1: he brought up a real salient point and that this
Speaker 1: is going to be a big challenge you basically have
Speaker 1: three three and a half weeks now before you you know,
Speaker 1: start going out there with with real you know, football
Speaker 1: going on, so trying to get the scheme in. Certainly
Speaker 1: they've done the installs mentally and virtually, but doing that
Speaker 1: on a practice field is going to be important. Matt
Speaker 1: Lafleur already said, even though there won't be preseason games,
Speaker 1: they are trying to find ways to simulate that competition.
Speaker 1: They're gonna potentially have live scrimmage periods. They're going to practice,
Speaker 1: likely inside lambeau Field more than just the traditional family
Speaker 1: and I practice to give guys an idea of what
Speaker 1: it's like to be in a stadium like that. Certainly,
Speaker 1: it's it's gonna be different. This whole process is going
Speaker 1: to be strange. But the first and foremost it's the
Speaker 1: health and and well being of the players and their families,
Speaker 1: and then beyond that, trying to you know, potentially play
Speaker 1: some football and win some football games. So the Packers
Speaker 1: have their priorities straight. The testing is in place, and
Speaker 1: now it's just kind of a fingers crossed approach that
Speaker 1: they can get to the start line here of the
Speaker 1: regular season. Yeah, yeah, and everyone we've heard from so
Speaker 1: far at the time we're taping this, we've heard from
Speaker 1: Brian Goodacuts, Matt Lafleur, Aaron Rodgers, and Kenny Clark, and
Speaker 1: all of them in one uh former fashion, have emphasized
Speaker 1: how much the success of this season, not only for
Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers, but for the NFL in general,
Speaker 1: to try to play a sixteen game regular season through
Speaker 1: a pandemic, it's going to come down to personal accountability,
Speaker 1: personal responsibility. The Packers doing everything they can within the
Speaker 1: facility to keep players safe to last around lock there's
Speaker 1: you know, meetings are are virtual, more spread out, different locations,
Speaker 1: all of those kinds of things. Obviously, the practice field
Speaker 1: is going to be the practice field, but the Packers
Speaker 1: are trying to mitigate the risks every where else. It's
Speaker 1: on the players everybody. I mean even you and me
Speaker 1: West to a certain extent, because we will be you know,
Speaker 1: watching practice and things like that. But the players, the coaches,
Speaker 1: all the support staff that's in contact with the players
Speaker 1: every day, they have to take the personal accountability and
Speaker 1: responsibility to do the right things away from the facility
Speaker 1: so that that virus does not come into twelve sixty
Speaker 1: five and create an outbreak or create a problem that
Speaker 1: the team has to deal with. Now, will there be
Speaker 1: positive tests? Yeah, most likely. And there can be positive
Speaker 1: tests because somebody, not because somebody does something wrong. Somebody
Speaker 1: can do everything right and you can still get this virus.
Speaker 1: So that's why the onus is on, uh, what you
Speaker 1: do away from the facility, the things that you can control.
Speaker 1: That's what the message has been from the GM, the
Speaker 1: head coach, the quarterback, everybody all the way down. It's
Speaker 1: on everybody to do their part here over the long haul. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I don't remember who said this, it was one
Speaker 1: of the coaches in the NFL. If I had have
Speaker 1: done my research, proud really beforehand, I could have gotten
Speaker 1: you a name. But they mentioned that this isn't even
Speaker 1: just about player A tow player B. This isn't about
Speaker 1: your teammates. It's about that teammates family. It's about making
Speaker 1: sure that you keep that circle small and making sure
Speaker 1: that you keep those people healthy. Kenny Clarke touched on
Speaker 1: it yesterday too. He's in a great position where he's not,
Speaker 1: you know, married, he doesn't have a child right now.
Speaker 1: His focus is mainly on football. And then he also
Speaker 1: has his family. There's guys that have small children that
Speaker 1: are gonna be playing in the league this season. There's
Speaker 1: guys that are gonna have family members that are gonna
Speaker 1: be with them. They're going to be able to, uh,
Speaker 1: They're gonna want to be able to keep them as
Speaker 1: healthy as possible throughout this process. So having that accountability.
Speaker 1: It's one thing for Wes Hotkowitz to walk in the
Speaker 1: building and want to make sure that Mike Spofford stays healthy,
Speaker 1: But it's another thing to make sure that Mike Spofford's
Speaker 1: wife does that, Mike Spofford's children, that Larry McCarron's wife.
Speaker 1: Those are the things that are paramount. That's the things
Speaker 1: on my mind as well. It's that, yeah, there is
Speaker 1: a there's a certain commitment and accountability to each other,
Speaker 1: but it's also that commitment that goes on to someone's
Speaker 1: family as well. And I think one thing that Brian
Speaker 1: Goodacuin's Matt Floor have done an exemptionary, exceptional job about
Speaker 1: exemplary job the boat. I was trying to say both
Speaker 1: of those words, uh this offseason was was reiterating that
Speaker 1: to the players and telling them that this isn't just
Speaker 1: about football. It's about making sure that you know you
Speaker 1: guys are teammates, your brothers, your family, and making sure
Speaker 1: that you take care of each other. And that includes
Speaker 1: being disciplined because there's going to be instances when things
Speaker 1: just happen. It's the way the world is right now.
Speaker 1: But are you making smart choices to minimize those risks? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And we did have one Packers player thus far who
Speaker 1: has opted out of the season due to the coronavirus pandemic,
Speaker 1: and that was free agent wide receiver Devin Functious. He
Speaker 1: decided not to play this season and West We talked
Speaker 1: a lot during the off season, before the draft, after
Speaker 1: the draft. It's still going to be a topic obviously,
Speaker 1: all the way through training camp the Packers wide receiver position.
Speaker 1: Devin Funcious was the primary addition to that group. The
Speaker 1: Packers did not spend a draft pick on a wide receiver.
Speaker 1: They did add Reggie Begelton if I'm saying that correctly
Speaker 1: from TfL and an under after rookie and Darryl Stewart
Speaker 1: from Michigan State are Producer Marv's alma mater, by the way,
Speaker 1: so um throw that and there for you, Mark anyhow,
Speaker 1: But with Funcious no longer in the mix. The packers
Speaker 1: knew these receivers you're talking about, Alan Wazard, Marquis Valdis,
Speaker 1: Scandling e Q st Brown, j Kumero, these guys, they
Speaker 1: knew there was going to be a huge opportunity for
Speaker 1: them in twenty that opportunity just got bigger in an
Speaker 1: exponential sort of way with Devin Funcious opting out and
Speaker 1: essentially the number two receiver spot in this offense behind
Speaker 1: Davante Adams is completely wide open. It is yeah, and
Speaker 1: that's gonna make this competition fun to watch once guys
Speaker 1: do get on the grass because more so than any position, Mike,
Speaker 1: I'm sure you could talk to Larry and and he
Speaker 1: can break down all the stuff of guard play and
Speaker 1: what he likes to see from guys in training camp.
Speaker 1: But to the novices, to the naked eye, the one
Speaker 1: position that has the best chance and usually of standing
Speaker 1: out in training camp practices is the receiver spot. That's
Speaker 1: how last year we knew that Alan Lazard was really
Speaker 1: the real eel. It's also how you know you look
Speaker 1: at Darius Shepherd in the way that he separated himself
Speaker 1: to earn a roster spot. It was through how he
Speaker 1: performed in those those training camp settings. So the funcious thing,
Speaker 1: I have so much respect for him. You know, I've
Speaker 1: been touched well, one, I have family members now that
Speaker 1: I've had COVID into not immediate, but I know people
Speaker 1: and and too. You know there's certain people in my
Speaker 1: family that that have health risks as well. So I
Speaker 1: understand the wholeheartedly. One, how this this virus, in this
Speaker 1: disease has touched him, and to the the amount of
Speaker 1: discipline and really how much he must have thought about
Speaker 1: this decision. You gotta remember this the guy that played
Speaker 1: one game last year before his season ending injury. I
Speaker 1: have to imagine he was champing at the bit to
Speaker 1: get back out there this year. But he made the
Speaker 1: best decision for himself and his family. Aaron Rodgers mentioning
Speaker 1: how much he respected that. All that being said, it
Speaker 1: goes back to Alan Lazard being the player that he
Speaker 1: was at the end of last season. The Packers need
Speaker 1: him to be a number two caliber type receiver and
Speaker 1: not just a really good story And based on his disposition,
Speaker 1: if he can stay healthy, I think was Art has
Speaker 1: all the tools to do that. And then it also
Speaker 1: Mike goes back to marc Quisbaldo Scandling and Equinemia st Brown,
Speaker 1: the two draft picks that they had in two thousand eighteen.
Speaker 1: Can those guys be the real deal? Can MBS get
Speaker 1: back to his eighteen form? And can eq show some
Speaker 1: of the bright spots that he showed at the end
Speaker 1: of that rookie season. Yeah, e Q st Brown obviously
Speaker 1: coming back from an injury that cost him his entire
Speaker 1: second season in the NFL, so he hasn't played since
Speaker 1: the tail end of his rookie year, but that was
Speaker 1: when he was really starting to show some promise and
Speaker 1: quite frankly, was probably the leader of the Packers rookie
Speaker 1: receivers at that point. Um Marcuis Avelde Scandling got off
Speaker 1: to a really strong start last year. Things faded statistically
Speaker 1: production wise down the stretch for him. He was dealing
Speaker 1: with some injuries as well, so he's looking to to
Speaker 1: bounce back in that respect in addition to the receiver position.
Speaker 1: And we'll talk about more of these topics in depth,
Speaker 1: I think as any camp goes along, but in terms
Speaker 1: of hitting the highlights of what the offense is looking at.
Speaker 1: Transitioning to Rick Wagner, right tackle Um as he takes
Speaker 1: over for Brian Bulaga who left in free agency. You
Speaker 1: have Um replacing Jimmy Graham at tight end, Jay Sternberger
Speaker 1: as the guy stepping up. Josiah Deguara was drafted in
Speaker 1: the third round. Marcedes Lewis back as the veteran guy
Speaker 1: in that group at the running back position. A j
Speaker 1: Dill in a second round pick, how quickly does he
Speaker 1: get worked into that mix with Aaron Jones and Jamal
Speaker 1: Williams and you know, will Matt Lafleur truly create a
Speaker 1: three headed backfield here? And then obviously a quarterback. Jordan
Speaker 1: loved the first round draft pick. He'll be competing with
Speaker 1: Tim Boyle for the backup spot behind Aaron Rodgers. Really
Speaker 1: puts a rookie draft pick in a tough spot to
Speaker 1: earn that number two quarterback job when there wasn't any offseason,
Speaker 1: there won't be any preseason games. Uh, the It's a
Speaker 1: difficult spot for Jordan's love to be in. But the
Speaker 1: nice spot that the Packers are in is they don't
Speaker 1: necessarily need him to be the number two because they
Speaker 1: have Tim Boyle, who's been here for a couple of
Speaker 1: years and performed well in the preseason in the past. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and Mike, you've been editing enough in my insider inbox.
Speaker 1: Is one of the drums I've been beating all offseason
Speaker 1: is the fact that if you're an NFL team, this
Speaker 1: is how I feel personally. Maybe GMS would feel differently.
Speaker 1: I feel like you have to have three quarterbacks this year.
Speaker 1: You have to have three quarterbacks on your active roster.
Speaker 1: If a team goes with two, I think you're you're playing,
Speaker 1: you know, with fire a little bit. And the Packers
Speaker 1: are fortunate now Boyle has had two full seasons. Not
Speaker 1: not obviously, you know everyone always brings up playing time
Speaker 1: that that is important. You need to be out there,
Speaker 1: you need to get the reps. But also just being
Speaker 1: around Aaron Rodgers, understanding what he needs on game days,
Speaker 1: understanding what the preparation process is like. That's gonna be
Speaker 1: very valuable, not only to have that experience, but also
Speaker 1: to kind of show Jordan's loved the way and what's
Speaker 1: gonna be asked of him here in his rookie season.
Speaker 1: Very important components. It's I'm it's unfortunate we the preseason
Speaker 1: is not gonna happen because I would have loved have
Speaker 1: seen all these running backs too. With a j billing,
Speaker 1: you imagine he would have gotten a lot of reps.
Speaker 1: Dexter Williams is still in that equation. Those are reps
Speaker 1: that they're not going to be able to get back.
Speaker 1: They'll do their best to do them in training camp,
Speaker 1: but you know those are usually the stars of those
Speaker 1: preseason settings. And then also, if I can just quickly
Speaker 1: touch on offensive line, if there was one position offensively
Speaker 1: that I think I feel the strongest about right now
Speaker 1: for the Packers, it is their offensive line that is
Speaker 1: a huge hole that they have to fill at right tackle.
Speaker 1: Not not undermining that at all with what they lose
Speaker 1: and not being able to bring back Brian Bulaga, but
Speaker 1: Lane Taylor's back. He has experienced at three different positions.
Speaker 1: Lucas Patrick has been a backup center now for Corey
Speaker 1: Lindsley and has been an in game settings. You have
Speaker 1: arguably the best left tackle in football right now in
Speaker 1: a really darn good prospect next to him and Elton Jenkins. Certainly,
Speaker 1: if Rick Wagner can pick up where he left off
Speaker 1: before some of these injuries had come up on him.
Speaker 1: That he's been a veteran presence as well. So I
Speaker 1: think they're deep at the positions they need to be
Speaker 1: deep at, and that some of those young skill positions
Speaker 1: they're gonna need guys to step up. But with them
Speaker 1: being on the younger side of this thing now, I
Speaker 1: think there's plenty of ceiling there for these guys to
Speaker 1: be able to reach. Yeah, And just to touch on
Speaker 1: some of the defensive story lines will obviously be following
Speaker 1: throughout training camp. The ones that come to mind for
Speaker 1: me first us obviously the run defense. What are the
Speaker 1: Packers going to do? Are they going to change some looks?
Speaker 1: How are how are things going to change as far
Speaker 1: as defending the run after the way last season ended. Now,
Speaker 1: we're not really going to get any answers to that
Speaker 1: until the Packers face Dalvin Cook in the Minnesota Vikings
Speaker 1: in Week one, but that is certainly going to be
Speaker 1: an ongoing storyline. You have Christian Kirksey stepping in for
Speaker 1: Blake Martinez. He'll be the new signal signal caller on
Speaker 1: the defense, the one in the midst of it, and
Speaker 1: he will obviously be a big part of the run
Speaker 1: defense as well. And then when you look at some
Speaker 1: of the young guys, Rashaan Gary. The expectation is last
Speaker 1: year's first round pick is going to take on a
Speaker 1: much larger role in this defense in his second year.
Speaker 1: And then I will also go with h mentioned the
Speaker 1: other first round pick from last year, Darnell Savage, who
Speaker 1: has a full season under his belt, started just about
Speaker 1: every game other than missing a couple with an injury
Speaker 1: as a rookie. But this is a guy who the
Speaker 1: Packers know that Darnell Savage is not a finished product,
Speaker 1: just like Sean Gary is no work close to being
Speaker 1: a finished product. Those are the guys, and they were obviously,
Speaker 1: you know, first round draft picks for a reason. Those
Speaker 1: are the guys who potentially have a chance to take
Speaker 1: this defense to another level because of sort of the
Speaker 1: the untapped potential, untapped ability to this point in their
Speaker 1: young career. Yeah, without question, to start off on your
Speaker 1: first point with the run defense, it was a very
Speaker 1: surprising move. The Packers did not draft a defensive lineman.
Speaker 1: You and I talked about this numerous times. Twenty four
Speaker 1: years since the last time they have not drafted what
Speaker 1: you would consider to be a prototypical, you know, defensive tackle. Uh.
Speaker 1: In the other side of this equation too, is the
Speaker 1: fact that Christian Kirksy comes in now at inside linebacker.
Speaker 1: Kirks He's only played in nine games the last two seasons,
Speaker 1: but before that was one of the real big up
Speaker 1: and comers in this league at that position. Where what
Speaker 1: can he do picking up where he left off, you
Speaker 1: know in two thousand, fifteen and sixteen with Mike Petton,
Speaker 1: to to be able to maybe reclaim some of that
Speaker 1: glory again and maybe be one of the answers for
Speaker 1: the Packers in that run defense, because certainly, judging by
Speaker 1: the moves Mike, we know how these things go, Brian
Speaker 1: Goodkin's Mike Petton. They felt confident enough with the makeup
Speaker 1: of that defensive line to keep it basically the same,
Speaker 1: with the exception of bringing in Trevin Hester into that
Speaker 1: equation as well. So, uh, this is a lot of
Speaker 1: it's gonna be on Kirksey. The number one question I have,
Speaker 1: and we're not gonna get any of these answers in
Speaker 1: the next month, is what is Mike Petton thinking? As
Speaker 1: far as the nickel though, are we gonna see a
Speaker 1: tried and true inside linebacker in that spot? In or
Speaker 1: in Burke's a tie summers or are we going to
Speaker 1: continue to go down that road with the hybrid safety
Speaker 1: potentially you know a number of different guys that could
Speaker 1: fit into that. Raven Green is obviously back as well.
Speaker 1: So that's gonna be the question mark because it's been
Speaker 1: said time and time again, the Packers ran more dime defense,
Speaker 1: more six defensive back defense than any team in the
Speaker 1: NFL last year. Do they feel like they can go
Speaker 1: that direction again or do they need to fortify that
Speaker 1: defensive front a little bit with perhaps an extra inside linebacker. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think there's some depth chart questions as far as
Speaker 1: the defense goes. We will be looking at you mentioned
Speaker 1: on the defensive line. We all know about Clarks, He's
Speaker 1: the guy who's front and center. The Packers want to
Speaker 1: reduce his snap count a little bit so that you know,
Speaker 1: he can really be full strength for the bulk of
Speaker 1: the season and late into the year. So how does
Speaker 1: that rotation work out between Dean Lowry, Tyler Lancaster you
Speaker 1: mentioned Hester, the new edition, Kingsley, Kiki, the draft pick
Speaker 1: from a year ago. All those guys are going to
Speaker 1: be worked into the mix and then the same thing
Speaker 1: from a depth chart perspective as you were just alluding
Speaker 1: to at inside linebacker, who's going to line up next
Speaker 1: to Christian Kirksey on a regular basis? Will it be
Speaker 1: or and Burke's Will it be Ty Summers? Will it
Speaker 1: be Curtis Bolton? Will the fifth round rookie draft pick
Speaker 1: from Minnesota, Kamal Martin make a make a push for
Speaker 1: playing time on defense? The guy that I think is
Speaker 1: going to step right in potentially on special teams for
Speaker 1: the Packers here as a rookie. So some of those
Speaker 1: depth chart alignment type of questions will get answered maybe
Speaker 1: as we go along. But again, I think a lot
Speaker 1: of these things, especially without having any preseason games, were
Speaker 1: not really going to know a whole heck of a
Speaker 1: lot until that ball is snapped for the first time
Speaker 1: in Minnesota on September. Yeah, if Don was still around,
Speaker 1: this has been the perfect year to try busting the
Speaker 1: quad out. Yeah, nobody, nobody's gonna see it, nobody's gonna
Speaker 1: know anything about it until you will roll it out
Speaker 1: in the game and give it a shot. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: not gonna get disseminated any other scouts around the league
Speaker 1: with this situation. But um to close on this defensive point,
Speaker 1: that the lynch pin for all of this is gonna
Speaker 1: be the Smiths, It's gonna be Rashan Gary and seeing
Speaker 1: what Mike Petton can do with those pieces. Uh, certainly,
Speaker 1: you're gonna need your defensive linemen, You're gonna need your
Speaker 1: inside linebackers. But how are those players utilized? You've heard
Speaker 1: pett And say it. I think I was even the
Speaker 1: one to ask him the question about Gary and his
Speaker 1: upside earlier this offseason. He sees a lot of the
Speaker 1: same traits developmentally in Gary that he sees right now
Speaker 1: with with Zadarius Smith. Both Smith's him and in Preston
Speaker 1: played a ton of snaps. I think they both played
Speaker 1: over the defensive snaps last year. Can the Packers take
Speaker 1: some of that off of those guys? And how can Gary,
Speaker 1: you know, pretend should be the release pin for that
Speaker 1: and being able to to give them maybe some snaps off,
Speaker 1: particularly inside in the Dine package. That's something to follow
Speaker 1: because you want to have the Smiths on the field
Speaker 1: as much as possible, You want to have Kenny Clark
Speaker 1: on the field as much as possible. But what can
Speaker 1: those rotations around those three players do to make sure
Speaker 1: that it doesn't always have to be them that Sometimes
Speaker 1: it is more of the all eleven guys, you know,
Speaker 1: finding a way to contribute and giving them a chance
Speaker 1: to catch their breath. Yeah, definitely plenty to watch to
Speaker 1: see exactly what adjustments are made from nineteen. But with
Speaker 1: that we will call it a wrap on this edition
Speaker 1: of Packers Unscripted. That is our training camp preview episode.
Speaker 1: We will be with you a couple of times per
Speaker 1: week throughout training camp, and I promise at some point,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure when, but at some point we will
Speaker 1: be in our brand new studio. Not just yet, but
Speaker 1: when we are, trust me, it's gonna look pretty cool.
Speaker 1: So Jack, with that, I know you are, I know
Speaker 1: you're exciting. You're probably excited to get out of that
Speaker 1: bonus room above your garage to anyhow, thanks for watching
Speaker 1: and listening everybody for West I am like, take care.
Speaker 1: We will see you next time. M