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Speaker 1: Hi, guys. I'm Rachel Lindsay and I'm Elie Pattewski Mano,

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Speaker 1: and you are listening to Bachelor Happy Hour. This is

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Speaker 1: our first podcast. I know. I'm so excited. We've been

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Speaker 1: talking about this for a while. This is something that

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Speaker 1: we're really passionate about, and we feel like as two

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Speaker 1: former bachelorettes who have two completely different stories, we've got

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Speaker 1: a lot that we can tell. You've been the success story.

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Speaker 1: I am the failure. Okay, now you're in Bachelor Nation,

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Speaker 1: but not outside of Bachelor, not in life, not in life.

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Speaker 1: I know, I'm so excited about this show, you guys,

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Speaker 1: because I have been a super fan of the show

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Speaker 1: ever since I was a Bachelor. I it's pretty much

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Speaker 1: a decade ago, ten years ago. Now we're gonna have

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Speaker 1: the most exclusive guests on this podcast. Now we're going

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Speaker 1: to have breaking news. We're going to have guests before

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Speaker 1: anyone else gets them. On the podcast. We'll be giving

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Speaker 1: behind the scenes information only that two former bachelorettes can give.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, all the behind the scenes info. It's funny.

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Speaker 1: One of my followers I posted that I was going

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Speaker 1: to be doing something with Bachelor Nation, and the first

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Speaker 1: thing my follower said was, no, you're always so honest

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Speaker 1: oh no. This podcast is going to be the truth,

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Speaker 1: Today's very first podcast is so good. Oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: there's so much to break down. We're gonna have amazing

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Speaker 1: guests on the podcast too. We have Demi, who's Hannah's

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Speaker 1: best friend and was with her when all the Jets

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Speaker 1: stuff went down. I can't wait to hear what she's

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Speaker 1: gonna have to say because Demmy always keeps it honest

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Speaker 1: and real like you. I think you guys are like

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Speaker 1: long lost sisters. My girl. Yeah, I've loved her for

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Speaker 1: a distance from a long time, so I can't wait

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Speaker 1: to hear what she's gonna say. But and we've got

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Speaker 1: Peter coming on the show, who we're going to be

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Speaker 1: to say. I have all the questions, you know, we're

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Speaker 1: that only we can have in this safe space on

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Speaker 1: her pastor happy? Oh yeah, yeah, I thought you meant

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Speaker 1: naughty things. I'm like not sweet. Oh, I'm asking computer

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Speaker 1: whatever I want, like beware but tune in. Well that's

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Speaker 1: so funny because what I can't wait to talk to

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Speaker 1: but is that he's so innocent. He reminds me of

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Speaker 1: because I want to know how he felt about Hannah

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Speaker 1: revealing that, and there's so many other questions to ask

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Speaker 1: him that. But yeah, we definitely have to ask him

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Speaker 1: about the Hannah jet situation because he lived with Jed.

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Speaker 1: He knows Jed, and he can give a different perspective

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Speaker 1: than what we're seeing or what we're reading in magazines.

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Speaker 1: It's hard to be that excited right now because of

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Speaker 1: everything that went down on the live taping of the Bachelorette.

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Speaker 1: let's start on the light note, right because this is

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Speaker 1: I think that high note is a one word, and

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Speaker 1: that is Tyler and Hannah, Tyler and Hannah together, what

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Speaker 1: Hannah and Tyler Tyler so hot. We ended the finale

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Speaker 1: to have our first fight? Rachel? Is that your first fight?

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Speaker 1: I'm getting all right, Well, let's see if our opinions differ.

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Speaker 1: Um my thoughts were. I'm happy for them, Okay, I'm

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Speaker 1: come out on all of that. Okay, I'm gonna do

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Speaker 1: a compliment sandwich here. Okay, so I'm gonna start off

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Speaker 1: I think that's gonna be the meat of it. I

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Speaker 1: And you know, we have enjoyed a great season. There

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Speaker 1: appreciated that. Okay, that's one. That's one side of the right. Now,

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Speaker 1: what's the stuff in the sandwich? I think there have

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Speaker 1: to be lessons learned from this whole journey that she's had,

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Speaker 1: I just don't see that that can actually happen. At

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Speaker 1: all in, let's get this whole thing started. He wasn't

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Speaker 1: with another positive note, I'm not mad at it because

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Speaker 1: that knocks Tyler out of the running for Bachelor, and

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Speaker 1: I can keep promoting Mike. Okay, now Mike steps it

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Speaker 1: Hannah was you know, duped she know she was she

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Speaker 1: I feel like you've had some interesting feeling. You always

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Speaker 1: the Bachelor, they've gone back and they've picked older bachelors,

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Speaker 1: watching Hannah, you can see the progression of Hannah during

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Speaker 1: her season, and I feel like the Bachelor, everybody has

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Speaker 1: bachelor cliches. This is bachelor happy, Yeah, so why not.

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Speaker 1: But everyone has their own journey, whether that be a

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Speaker 1: like we're getting from Hannah. You can see that in

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Speaker 1: episode nine. She is not the same Hannah that gave

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Speaker 1: that said stay in your lane exactly. Yeah, And I

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Speaker 1: heard it here first. I have no problems with Hannah

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Speaker 1: Dashread dot com. Hey Peter, Welcome to our podcast, Oh

433
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Speaker 1: My gosh, we're so excited to talk to you. Hell

434
00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:34,840
Speaker 1: you guys. Yeah, I'm stup to be here. Thanks for

435
00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,000
Speaker 1: having me. Yes, thank you so much for being here

436
00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,320
Speaker 1: and talking to us. This is our very first podcast.

437
00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:42,760
Speaker 1: It's called Bachelor Happy Hour. We're so happy to have

438
00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:45,040
Speaker 1: you on it. So thank you for being here. But

439
00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,560
Speaker 1: also you're welcome because you're about to have such a

440
00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:51,840
Speaker 1: good time. All right, I'm looking forward to all right.

441
00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:53,679
Speaker 1: So we have so many questions, so I say we

442
00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,080
Speaker 1: just get into this. So Peter, oh my gosh, my

443
00:20:56,160 --> 00:21:00,200
Speaker 1: heart broke when everything happened when Hannah said good by

444
00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,600
Speaker 1: to you. You've got to walk us through that. I

445
00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:07,800
Speaker 1: mean you had to have been blindsided in that moment. Yeah. Um, yeah,

446
00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,000
Speaker 1: that was That was a rough day for sure. Um.

447
00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:12,720
Speaker 1: You know, I remember going into so I was the

448
00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:16,880
Speaker 1: first Fantasy Suite date for that week in Greece, and um,

449
00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:18,760
Speaker 1: so I had a kind of a week to you know,

450
00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,760
Speaker 1: just play everything back in my head and just you know,

451
00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:26,639
Speaker 1: think about everything, and I remember feeling so so confident

452
00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,600
Speaker 1: and so secure in what we had. Um. Right after

453
00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,040
Speaker 1: that that day was amazing. The whole night, everything about

454
00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,919
Speaker 1: it was was just so amazing. That relationship. I truly felt,

455
00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:36,800
Speaker 1: you know, I was on that next level and that

456
00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,000
Speaker 1: was you know, that was my person um. So I

457
00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,960
Speaker 1: remember going to that ceremony still feeling very very confident.

458
00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:45,080
Speaker 1: I had a little bit of nerves, but just feeling

459
00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,040
Speaker 1: so good about it all. And then you know, she

460
00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,800
Speaker 1: calls Jud's name and there's one more rose there, and

461
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,479
Speaker 1: you know, obviously the nerves are starting to pick up,

462
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,560
Speaker 1: but I still felt really good about it. And then

463
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,600
Speaker 1: and then she you know, says Tyler's name, and I

464
00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:02,040
Speaker 1: just remember like going in the complete shock and just

465
00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:06,679
Speaker 1: being completely blindsided. Just didn't expect that whatsoever. I remember

466
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 1: just kind of I feel like I had no emotion.

467
00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,440
Speaker 1: And and then she, you know, Hannah asked if she could,

468
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,119
Speaker 1: you know, walk me out and talk a little bit,

469
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,520
Speaker 1: and we sat down and talked. But I just remember,

470
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,119
Speaker 1: again I was in so much shocked that I couldn't

471
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 1: even I didn't even think to ask her, you know,

472
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,359
Speaker 1: why what happened. And just in that moment, my brain

473
00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:25,679
Speaker 1: wasn't processing that. It just was like, wow, this is

474
00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,560
Speaker 1: this is it? Like this is done the relationships, it's

475
00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,960
Speaker 1: over now, um. And then I saw that car come up, Yeah,

476
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,720
Speaker 1: and it was just all emotion flooded out. Well, where

477
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,119
Speaker 1: did you think you ranked? Like, I mean, did you

478
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:38,919
Speaker 1: think you were her number one? Or were you like

479
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,480
Speaker 1: oh maybe, like I know Jed and her are really close,

480
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,000
Speaker 1: Like how did you feel about that? Like where you

481
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:47,840
Speaker 1: were in terms of all the guys. I knew that,

482
00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:51,159
Speaker 1: you know, she had solid relationships with with Jed. Um

483
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:53,560
Speaker 1: I had seen that, you know, just from the couple

484
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:55,639
Speaker 1: of group dates that I was on in same with Tyler,

485
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:59,200
Speaker 1: so um I knew she had solid relationship with them.

486
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:02,679
Speaker 1: But I after that date that we had and just

487
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 1: you know, waking up the next morning and saying bye her,

488
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,399
Speaker 1: I had zero doubt that that it was me and her.

489
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 1: So that's kind of just what made it so hard,

490
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,479
Speaker 1: and you know, just kind of blindsided me from it.

491
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:18,680
Speaker 1: Well you we all, we know all about your fantasy suite. Yeah, Peter,

492
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:22,120
Speaker 1: I mean, let's let's talk about it, right, because Hannah did.

493
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,880
Speaker 1: Hannah talked about it, and I just have to ask you,

494
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:29,479
Speaker 1: how did you feel with Hannah outing you about the

495
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,640
Speaker 1: details of your fantasy suite? And I know we don't

496
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,960
Speaker 1: know everything, but she did kind of put it out

497
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 1: there and I'm sure before asking for your permission. So

498
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 1: how did that make you feel? Yeah? She did. Um,

499
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,240
Speaker 1: I think I think it's definitely a parent that Hannah

500
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 1: I put the windmill on the map now, but um

501
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,919
Speaker 1: we uh yeah, I wasn't expecting it, just because you know,

502
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 1: obviously there's you know, it's a very intimate experience and

503
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 1: you know, for that privacy, usually the details don't come out.

504
00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,359
Speaker 1: But um, kind of watching it back and seeing why

505
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,719
Speaker 1: it came out and what caused you to do that,

506
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 1: it made sense to me. And honestly, there's no hard

507
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 1: feelings there. Um, I understand being in the heated, heated

508
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 1: moment like that, things slip, you say things, and that's

509
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 1: exactly what happened and with her, so, um, you know,

510
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 1: it is what it is. Um. I I'm honestly, I'm

511
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,640
Speaker 1: very comfortable you know, with my sexuality and talking about

512
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 1: sex like that. So I'm not I think I'm I

513
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:28,880
Speaker 1: guess the anti Luke in that regard, But um, it was. Yeah,

514
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 1: it is what it is, and yes, the whole world

515
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,680
Speaker 1: knows now. But and windmills will never be the same,

516
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:41,200
Speaker 1: No one will ever windmill the same way again. Insane. Yeah, Peter,

517
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,639
Speaker 1: we know you're comfortable. We remember the condoms in the

518
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:48,159
Speaker 1: car and the console. You want to dress that, you

519
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 1: want to dress that too? No, no, no, that was

520
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,679
Speaker 1: just that was an honest mistake. I truly forgot. I

521
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:54,359
Speaker 1: didn't had my car for like two months. I forgot

522
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 1: all about safety first. I'm all that great, But I

523
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,400
Speaker 1: have to ask you, because we all, we all fell

524
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 1: in love with your parents and just your family in general.

525
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 1: You guys were fantastic. You had such a great bond.

526
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 1: What did your family think about all this talk about

527
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 1: you and the windmill and Hannah. I mean, was it

528
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:19,159
Speaker 1: a little embarrassing for them? I mean, honestly, yeah, it was.

529
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 1: It was probably a little bit uncomfortable. You don't expect

530
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 1: your your private life like that to just be displayed

531
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 1: to the world and then and then possibly watching an

532
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,440
Speaker 1: episode with your parents or some of that stuff comes out.

533
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 1: But they were, honestly, they were They were so great

534
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,239
Speaker 1: about it. Yes, it could have been very awkward, and

535
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 1: I guess, like I said, it was a little bit uncomfortable,

536
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 1: but um, yeah, they were cool about it. They were

537
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,679
Speaker 1: just you know, making making fun about it a little bit,

538
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,959
Speaker 1: and um, they didn't take it too seriously. So, um,

539
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 1: my family has always been very very supportive, and uh,

540
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,359
Speaker 1: yeah it was. It was all good, all right, Peter,

541
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,919
Speaker 1: but your buddies had to be like four times, I guess,

542
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,639
Speaker 1: not once people, four times on all seriousness. You know,

543
00:25:58,080 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 1: we can have a lot of fun talking about the windmill,

544
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 1: but you did get let go after all of that

545
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 1: talk about the windmill. So for me, how I sort

546
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 1: of took it as a viewer watching is I was thinking, Okay,

547
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 1: let's reverse gender roles here. Let's say it was the

548
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:16,399
Speaker 1: bachelor talking about, you know, the windmill with a girl

549
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 1: and then letting her go home. That's hurtful to me,

550
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:24,159
Speaker 1: Like that must have really really been hurtful to you.

551
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 1: It was. It definitely was being yeah, I guess, being

552
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 1: completely honest. It it did mess with me a little

553
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 1: bit just because that was such an amazing, you know

554
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 1: night for us, and I really, yeah, it hurt. It

555
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,640
Speaker 1: was tough, and it took me a while to kind

556
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,879
Speaker 1: of process it and whatnot. But at the end of

557
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 1: the day, you know, it's Hannah had her reasons. She

558
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 1: followed her heart. That's what she told us she was

559
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 1: going to do from the very beginning and forever whatever reason,

560
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:00,879
Speaker 1: you know, it wasn't me and she didn't feel it

561
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,919
Speaker 1: with me. Um, so you know it's that's not a

562
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 1: reason for her to keep me just because of the

563
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 1: one male and that one amazing night we had. But see,

564
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 1: this is why I love you. You are so sweet.

565
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 1: They are real feelings. And but one thing I will

566
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 1: say is, you know, with Hannah and being I can't

567
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 1: even imagine being in her position. Just that's got to

568
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 1: be so much more difficult balancing multiple relationships, not just

569
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 1: me looking at just one. Um, if if that's what

570
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,399
Speaker 1: she felt like she needed to do, if that's you know,

571
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 1: she had every right to pursue her each relationship and

572
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: whatever way she wanted to do, and um, yes, obviously

573
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,159
Speaker 1: there's true feelings there and my heart you know was

574
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 1: broken at the end of this and and whatnot. But

575
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:44,959
Speaker 1: if that's what she felt like she needed for her

576
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 1: relationship to make decisions or whatnot. And obviously intimacy is

577
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 1: you know, a very important part of a relationship. That's

578
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 1: her call and she's entitled to do that and it

579
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 1: is what it is. Well good, since you have no regrets,

580
00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,880
Speaker 1: do you want to be the next bachelor? Let's talk?

581
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 1: Why not? Peter? I am all for Peter being the

582
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 1: next Bachelor. You guys are awesome. I appreciate that. Um, yes, yeah,

583
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 1: they're short answers. I love that. Absolutely. I've been through

584
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 1: this experience. I know it works. I've fallen in love.

585
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 1: I've spent you know, about two months traveling the world,

586
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:26,679
Speaker 1: going on amazing experiences and just truly getting into with

587
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,919
Speaker 1: someone and falling in love with them. So absolutely, I

588
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,199
Speaker 1: know it works. There's no reason I wouldn't want to,

589
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,399
Speaker 1: you know, pursue it as the bachelor and hope you know,

590
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,679
Speaker 1: at the end I can find my person finally and

591
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 1: m and having an amazing time of doing it. So yes,

592
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 1: if that's all for Can I just say I appreciate

593
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 1: you saying that because sometimes people like beat around the bush.

594
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: Oh I'm not sure I'm open to finding love again.

595
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 1: Yeah you want to be Yeah, you know, good for you,

596
00:28:55,520 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 1: Peter own it. Yeah, but how do you feel about

597
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 1: Hannah now? Like, have you completely moved on? Being very honest,

598
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 1: you guys, I was in one hundred percent over over

599
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 1: the whole relationship. I needed to get some answers from

600
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 1: Aaron and just some closure, and so I definitely needed that.

601
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 1: But you know, I'm feeling I'm feeling a lot better

602
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 1: after having that opportunity to see her and kind of closing,

603
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 1: closing that chapter and you know, hopefully moving on to

604
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 1: to another one and and hopefully the best is yet

605
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 1: to come. You know. So, Peter, you really seem like

606
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 1: your whole heart was in all of this. You know,

607
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 1: you could see the emotion. You could see that you

608
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 1: were very sincere, and very honest and just all in.

609
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 1: There was never a question about your loyalty to Hannah

610
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 1: throughout this season. When you watched the season back and

611
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 1: you saw Jed sit there and say that he came

612
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 1: on for the wrong reasons, what was your initial thought

613
00:29:53,280 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 1: about that? Um, you know, he was being honest. You know,

614
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 1: that's obviously, that's that's kind of it's a weird thing,

615
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 1: you know. You Yes, I came on this show. This

616
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 1: wasn't going to help my job whatsoever. I I you know,

617
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 1: I wasn't looking for anything else besides just the opportunity.

618
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 1: You know, it's a to meet my person and being

619
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 1: the hopeless romantic I was, this was the craziest, the

620
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 1: most amazing opportunity to do that. So I took it,

621
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 1: And yes, that was my main thing going into the

622
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 1: show and then hearing that from Jed, you know, it's

623
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 1: teach his own. He had his reasons, but I also

624
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 1: know Jed and Jed is a good person, and I

625
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 1: had a lot of talk to Jed in the house. Um,

626
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 1: and I know his feelings for Hannah were very very

627
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 1: true and genuine, and obviously their relationship really really chucked off,

628
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 1: and you know, I fell in love with each other,

629
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 1: and um, you know I by that. So you know,

630
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 1: I love Peter that you're sharing what he said to you,

631
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 1: you know, because we just see the outside and we're like,

632
00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 1: does he really have feelings for her? Is he started

633
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 1: playing it up? And so I love that, you know,

634
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 1: you shared with us that he sat down with you

635
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 1: and like told you how he was feeling about her. Yeah. No,

636
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 1: I remember. I remember being in the mansion one of

637
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 1: the first It was after his first date. We were

638
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 1: on yeah, after the mystery, right, and he came back

639
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 1: and he was like, we're just raving about it, and

640
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 1: you could just see the glow in his face and

641
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 1: he was just it was just mean that we're doing

642
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 1: laundry upstairs and he's like, dude, this this girl is

643
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 1: amazing and I hadn't really had an opportunity at to

644
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 1: go on a date with her yet, but I knew

645
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 1: what I had seen from a little I had interaction

646
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 1: I'd had with her, and I was just so excited

647
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 1: to start getting to know her. And yeah, I like

648
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 1: I said, I know Jedge is a great dude, and

649
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: his feelings were very, very true for her. I want

650
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 1: someone that you know wants me just as badly as

651
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 1: I want them. And I wouldn't want Hannah to have

652
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 1: wanted me just because she found out, you know, this

653
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 1: truth about Jed and then she was Okay, Now now

654
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 1: I'll go to Peter. I think that's a perfect answer.

655
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 1: You're so right. You want somebody to love you so

656
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: unconditionally and intensely that it doesn't matter the outside what's

657
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: going on. I don't want any other factor having anything

658
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 1: to do with that. I just want me and that

659
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 1: person just have such an amazing connection that that's all

660
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 1: that matters, and that's why we both choose each other. Oh, Peter,

661
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 1: I want that for you too. But one funny thing

662
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 1: I will say, it's this is hilarious. No one probably

663
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 1: knows about the wind Meal. I feel actually really bad

664
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: about it, but Hannah and I. So when we were

665
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: in it, before we went upstairs, there was this little

666
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 1: chocolate strawberry set up there for us to eat some champagne.

667
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 1: We're sitting downstairs, and then we start throwing it. I

668
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 1: think they actually showed it at one of the ends

669
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: of the episodes of me and here trying to throw

670
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 1: it in each other's mouth and trying to catch it.

671
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 1: But the chocolate had started the melt, and so we

672
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 1: got really sticky in our fingers and we couldn't really

673
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 1: throw it right. So these strawberries were going everywhere in

674
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 1: the wind meal and getting everywhere. And so the next morning,

675
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: when we're leaving, one of the producers comes to me.

676
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 1: It's like, yo, Peter, you guys just showing that wind meal.

677
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 1: There was some like antique rugs that were on the

678
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 1: bottom we are sitting on, but all those strawberries and

679
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: the chocolate had melted all bring destroyed all of it.

680
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 1: He's like, they're they're okay with but just just let

681
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 1: you guys know. I'm like, oh my god, I feel horrible.

682
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 1: But it was it was kind of a funny little

683
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 1: inside thing that happened there. I thought you were going

684
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 1: somewhere else with that. When you said like chocolate, I

685
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 1: thought you were gonna say like chocolate on the sheets,

686
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: and somebody thought you guys had an accident in bed.

687
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 1: It wasn't that. It wasn't that bad. But funny, Peter,

688
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 1: with all the attention that you you all gave that windmill,

689
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 1: I'm sure they made their money four or five times over.

690
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: I think it's yea, they're doing. Just some couples that are,

691
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: you know, wanting to respark the relationship have booked that

692
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 1: windmill out for the next five years. As Peter would say,

693
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 1: Mike drop, Peter, thank you so much for coming on

694
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: the podcast and talking with us, and we just wish

695
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: the best for you. Thanks Peter, Thank you so much. Guys,

696
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 1: they really appreciate it. It It was great talking to you. Goodbye.

697
00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: All right, all right, guys, still to come. We're going

698
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: to get into everything that happened on after the final

699
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 1: rows and who a lot happened there, and we're gonna

700
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,240
Speaker 1: get detected. Demi. She was one of the first people

701
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 1: that Hannah talked to when she got the news that

702
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 1: Jed has a girlfriend. But first we got to talk

703
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 1: about Tyler. Oh please, I will talk about Tyler all

704
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:21,280
Speaker 1: day long because I adore him. Tell me you adore Tyler.

705
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 1: I know, you know, like Peter, wasn't your face Like Peter,

706
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 1: I just said, he wasn't for me. I do like Tyler.

707
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people when they first saw Tyler,

708
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: they immediately summed him up. And I feel like that

709
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: that's probably what he goes through a lot. He's very

710
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 1: good looking, he's athletic, he played sports. You immediately just

711
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 1: think he's a jock and he's a player. I didn't

712
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 1: put those labels on Tyler. Really, yeah, I did. I

713
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 1: have demanded from the beginning. There was something about him

714
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,439
Speaker 1: that I just thought seemed very sincere. He just seems like,

715
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm going to be very honest in

716
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 1: this experience, and if I feel Hannah, then I'm going

717
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 1: to go with that. And that's what I got from

718
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,919
Speaker 1: him the entire time. I never doubted Tyler at all. See,

719
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,879
Speaker 1: I didn't even notice him at first. I just thought, oh,

720
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 1: you're right, you're right. I mean, I hate to say this,

721
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,800
Speaker 1: but I thought some jock like I honestly thought like, oh,

722
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 1: he doesn't he's emotionally not intelligent. Emotionally, yeah, not intelligent,

723
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: like and oh my gosh, was I wrong. One of

724
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 1: my followers is who pointed it out to me. She

725
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 1: was like, oh my gosh, no, Hannah and Jet or

726
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 1: Hannah and Tyler are going to end up together. And

727
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 1: I was like what. And then I started looking and

728
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 1: I was like, not only do they have this crazy connection.

729
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 1: I think Hannah herself even said it started a little

730
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 1: bit later. But he is so in tune with his

731
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 1: emotions and feelings, and every single time he spoke, he

732
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 1: blew me away. And I think what blew me away

733
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 1: the most was his love for Hannah. Oh my gosh,

734
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,240
Speaker 1: he loved her. That's because he's been through some things.

735
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 1: He's been through some life experiences and that makes you

736
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 1: mature really fast. And so yes, although he was young,

737
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: I think he's twenty five, twenty six, twenty five, he's

738
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 1: been through some things that have made him grow up faster.

739
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 1: But I'm still stuck on you saying you don't remember him.

740
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: Do you not remember in his package when he was

741
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 1: dancing around like a broke off foot loose. I do

742
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: remember that, and I remember I think I tweeted that

743
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: it was the straight to movie version. No, I do

744
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 1: remember that, But I remember thinking, like, this guy's kind

745
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 1: of like a joke, like not in a bad way,

746
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 1: like kind of just being silly a joke, not like

747
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: a joke John Paul Jones. Yeah, Yeah, like a John

748
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 1: Paul Jones. That's what I thought when I saw that.

749
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 1: And honestly, until you just said that, I didn't even

750
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 1: know that that was Tyler. I thought that was like

751
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,800
Speaker 1: even somebody else. It's just my pinion of him and

752
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 1: my percepject of him changed so much, and I'm so

753
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 1: glad I did. Honestly, it taught me a lesson the

754
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: way that Tyler affected us, and he made a big

755
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: impression on us, and were rooting for Tyler and he

756
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:46,280
Speaker 1: was definitely a front runner. He obviously affected Hannah's parents

757
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 1: the exact same way. And so I'm very curious with

758
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 1: you how I know how my hometowns went when when

759
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 1: the guys had to meet my family, But when it

760
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: was your hometown were the guys Were your parents leaning

761
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 1: more to one guy than the other, were you against

762
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,399
Speaker 1: their decision? Well, my tip two one was the guy

763
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:09,399
Speaker 1: from Massachusetts, Cape Cod, Chris Lampton, who I'm from Massachusetts,

764
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 1: So my family obvious loved him and they had just

765
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 1: talked about New England sports. It all all was well,

766
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 1: but they knew the second they saw the guy ended

767
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: up with Roberto that they could tell just seeing me

768
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,320
Speaker 1: who I was into. Yeah, I really related to Hannah's

769
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: experience with the parents liking one person like Hannah's parents

770
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 1: like Tyler, and they really were harder on Jed, Like

771
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 1: it's no secret when Brian came home to meet my family,

772
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 1: my family was very hard on him, and they were

773
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: much more receptive to Peter. And for me, you know,

774
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 1: I didn't have the struggle that Hannah had, but I

775
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 1: totally understand it. Maybe at twenty four I would have,

776
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 1: but at the time I was thirty two and I

777
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 1: was just like, I know him way better than you do,

778
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: and you're only knowing maybe what you're reading or maybe

779
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 1: you know just a first impression isn't good. But I

780
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: totally understood what Hannah was going through. It was actually

781
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 1: my dad who liked Brian, who you never saw on camera.

782
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: That was like the big mystery. My dad met all

783
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 1: the guys off camera. My dad really liked Brian, and

784
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,240
Speaker 1: he was the one with Peter who was like, something's

785
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 1: not right. The ends don't match up. That's what That's

786
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,399
Speaker 1: what he kept saying to me. He was like, something's off,

787
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 1: something's not right, and I was like, actually, that's what's

788
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: something that I've been feeling. But blah blah blah whatever.

789
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:25,959
Speaker 1: I totally understand your parents, your parents having a huge

790
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,240
Speaker 1: influence when it comes to the decision that you're making

791
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,879
Speaker 1: when you're at that point, because you get this, you're

792
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 1: in this bubble and then all of a sudden you

793
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 1: get to meet people who are outside of it, and

794
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 1: you're like, Okay, they're gonna keep it real. They're gonna

795
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 1: tell me the truth. They're not inside of this. I

796
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 1: am so like itching to hear what they have to say.

797
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: And so Hannah was sitting there like, Okay, they're gonna

798
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: like She knew that they weren't gonna like yet. And

799
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: that's my beef with Hannah. Though she she didn't do

800
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: Jet any favors, she set it up for them not

801
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: to like him. I mean, let's talk about that a

802
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 1: little bit of all with Jed, because we have to

803
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 1: talk about Jed because obviously what happened last night. I

804
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 1: always thought it was Jed from the get go, even

805
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,839
Speaker 1: when the spoilers out there said it wasn't it said

806
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:14,919
Speaker 1: it was Tyler, like from the very first episode. Really yeah,

807
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 1: go to my blog right from the beginning, I think

808
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 1: my very first blog, if not second, maybe my first one,

809
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: I said, Nope, it's going to be Jed. In the end,

810
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 1: she just this. It was just the way she looked

811
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 1: at him, the way she's like so giddy around him,

812
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,320
Speaker 1: looked at him. I gotta go back and read exactly

813
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:29,959
Speaker 1: what I said, because I know there were certain things

814
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,320
Speaker 1: I picked up on. And then she has even said

815
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 1: throughout the process, she has said, you know, from the

816
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 1: very get go, you know, I you know Jed has

817
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,760
Speaker 1: I've cared about Jed. Jed has been a front runner.

818
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 1: I don't know if she was those exact words, but

819
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 1: in every time she said that, like, I knew it

820
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 1: wasn't going to be Tyler as soon as basically at

821
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 1: the beginning of last night's episode, because she kept saying

822
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 1: how slow they were to progress and how it was

823
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 1: Jet from the beginning. And I think you do really know.

824
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: I can't remember to Brian get your first impression, Rose, Yes, yeah,

825
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, at least if your top two,

826
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 1: top three, there the first night, I dare to say,

827
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:10,359
Speaker 1: did you not? I didn't know who my top people were.

828
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 1: I definitely knew Brian was because I gave him a

829
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 1: first Impression Rose, but I didn't have like my top

830
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 1: four people filled out, like I was kind of guessing,

831
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 1: But I really didn't know until the first week. It

832
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: ended up who I gave the first date two and

833
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 1: then first Impression were top two. But at the time

834
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,879
Speaker 1: I really didn't know that. But I just I really

835
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 1: thought it was Tyler until the very last date. And

836
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 1: I truly believe for Jed it was a fairy tale.

837
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 1: You know. He sings and you guys can't see me,

838
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 1: but I'm using air quotes. He plays the guitar, he

839
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 1: writes songs. He wrote a song for her. They recorded

840
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: a song together. He came to her balcony in the

841
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 1: middle of the night and he played music for her,

842
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: which was a very generic song. It could have been

843
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: about anybody. Let's just say that. But then he you know,

844
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: and then in the proposal he writes a song for her.

845
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 1: Oh I can sing it better than I can. Then

846
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 1: I can tell you, you know, so I'm going to

847
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: sing you a song. I just think it was very

848
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 1: romantic and Tyler was just easy. He was too good

849
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 1: to be true. Well, in the end, Jed won. And

850
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 1: I'm also using air quotes. Um he used that term,

851
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 1: or like he went around telling his friends he won.

852
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: I didn't volve him for that. Actually, that's a very

853
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: common thing people say. People say that. Brian said that

854
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 1: too sometimes, like it comes along with journey and you

855
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 1: remind me of home and you're my person and all

856
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: these other terms that people would just like what you know,

857
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: I want. It doesn't mean that you're thinking of this

858
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 1: person as a prize. I guess it didn't. He said it.

859
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 1: It looks bad now, Yeah, it looks bad now, but

860
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 1: I guess it. It is how he said it was

861
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 1: he like, oh yeah I won like whatever with his boys,

862
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 1: or it was like, oh my gosh, yeah I won.

863
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 1: I'm with Hannah. Now it's great. You know there's but

864
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 1: I got Hannah. I don't like it either, But that

865
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,399
Speaker 1: wasn't like a dealbreaker for me. All right, So let's

866
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 1: talk about when Jed and Hannah sat down and talked

867
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: about the girlfriend. Yeah, I mean his excuse, Oh, I

868
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 1: just yeah, her family had bought us this vacation and

869
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 1: we went and had this vacation together, and yeah, I

870
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 1: told her I loved her, but I mean it was

871
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 1: so bad. You had days to prepare what you were

872
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 1: going to say, and this is a woman that you love.

873
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,359
Speaker 1: I think I wanted more from him. And maybe he's

874
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: just a laid back and chill guy, but at this point,

875
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 1: you are fighting for your relationship and it's not just

876
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 1: boyfriend and girlfriend. This is your fiance. This is somebody

877
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 1: For months you've been planning how you're going to spend

878
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 1: the rest of your life in your future together. And

879
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 1: I just didn't feel like he was fighting enough for

880
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:35,399
Speaker 1: her and for what they had. A hundred I could

881
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 1: not agree with you more, Rachel. It's like there was

882
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: nothing there. And I know he doesn't have this huge personality.

883
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,479
Speaker 1: I mean he has no offence to him, but he's

884
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:47,240
Speaker 1: been a bit of a dud until that guitar comes out. Honestly, Yeah,

885
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 1: he just doesn't know how to express himself, right, But

886
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: you're right, this is the woman you love that you

887
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 1: were engaged too, and you messed up. Like I can

888
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 1: forgive him honestly for all that it's messed up what

889
00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 1: he did, don't get me wrong, But if he was

890
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 1: on his knees in tears. I love you. I yes,

891
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 1: I was with this other girl. I did tell her

892
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: I loved her. I didn't know what love was until

893
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: I met you. I am so sorry, like and just

894
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 1: to see any emotion come out of him, it just

895
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 1: sounded like he was making excuses for himself. One to

896
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,359
Speaker 1: try to say, faced, were you okay with what he did?

897
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 1: Like if you were in that situation, because that's what

898
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 1: I kept thinking, like that easily could have happened us

899
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 1: because we're both former bachelrettes. If you had been Hannah

900
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 1: and you had been sitting there and that is the

901
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:30,919
Speaker 1: person that walked in and that is what he said

902
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 1: to you, would you have taken him back? Yeah? If

903
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 1: I felt it was love. Like I'm really excited because

904
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:39,320
Speaker 1: we're gonna find out exactly what Hannah was feeling when

905
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,280
Speaker 1: she first found out the news. And that is because

906
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: one of Hannah's best friends who was actually with well,

907
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 1: actually not with her, she was the first person she

908
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 1: talked to when the news broke is here. That's right,

909
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 1: Demi is here with us right now, and we cannot

910
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 1: wait to hear what she has to say. Oh my gosh,

911
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 1: I mean welcome, Welcome to Happy Auray, and you were

912
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 1: so excited to have you on the podcast. First of all,

913
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 1: I've been waiting to meet you for a very long time,

914
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 1: same I have. I didn't see each other. No, we're

915
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 1: both from Dallas, so we've never met. I've been dreaming

916
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 1: of meeting Rachel. Listen my favorite yay. I love it.

917
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 1: I love Rachel so much. I'm very excited to be

918
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 1: here with you. Well, we are so happy you are

919
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 1: here because there's so much to talk about. Okay, first,

920
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 1: before we get into everything that happened with Jed, let's

921
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,360
Speaker 1: talk about the three guys right from at the end

922
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 1: of the season. What were your thoughts of them, I mean,

923
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 1: being Hannah's best friend, where you were like, did you

924
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 1: know when you met all the guys, like those are

925
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 1: gonna be her top three? Tyler the second that I

926
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 1: saw him announced for the cast, I was like, he

927
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,919
Speaker 1: is so hot, and I was like, he is He's

928
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 1: going to kill it this season. And I told her

929
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 1: at one point, I was like, save him for me,

930
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 1: and obviously she didn't. And then she told me a

931
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 1: lot about like, you know, all of the guys that

932
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:49,879
Speaker 1: were in her final three and how much. She liked

933
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 1: all of them, and it was really hard for her

934
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 1: to make a decision. Yeah, so I'd actually like to

935
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 1: take it back from the beginning, because I'll be honest

936
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 1: like I always am. I've never liked Jed from the

937
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 1: moment that he told her that he was there initially

938
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: for his music career. That was always a huge red

939
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 1: flag for me. And so you're a very outspoken person.

940
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 1: So from the beginning when he said that to her,

941
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:10,879
Speaker 1: and he dropped that bomb on her, what was your

942
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 1: impression of Jet? You know, I would have taken what

943
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 1: he said and I would have valued it more if

944
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:20,240
Speaker 1: he wouldn't have sang a song every week in the beginning.

945
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 1: It was just constantly about his music. And that's kind

946
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 1: of where I was down with Jet at that point.

947
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 1: I'm with you on that, Like, I didn't actually mind

948
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:30,359
Speaker 1: that he told her. I liked that he told her.

949
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 1: I thought it was a genuine because but Rachel, did

950
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 1: you I guess let me ask both of you, when

951
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 1: you went on the show as a contestant, not Rachel

952
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 1: as the bachelorette, did you go on to find love?

953
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 1: My answer is no, I went on to have a

954
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: good time. I went on to drink, like go to

955
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 1: La sit by a pool. And then when I was

956
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,399
Speaker 1: started having feelings for the Bachelor, I was like, oh

957
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 1: my gosh, this can work. What bothers me with Jed

958
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: is that you have to look at the underlying theme

959
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 1: of his reasoning for coming on the show. He is

960
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:04,280
Speaker 1: seeful he came on the show to deceive her period

961
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 1: point blank period. There hadn't been that much time that

962
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,240
Speaker 1: had passed. When he talks about his love of music

963
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, it's been seven or eight

964
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 1: days and now you're feeling hand all of a sudden.

965
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 1: I have a problem with that when I think of

966
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 1: his motive for coming on the show. How far was

967
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 1: he willing to take that? What if he didn't turn

968
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 1: his feelings around and start liking her a certain way?

969
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 1: That is what I have such a deep rooted issue with.

970
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 1: And the fact that his family was asking or talking

971
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 1: about his music career and like asking, how's it going

972
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 1: to work with his music career? It all seems to

973
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:36,359
Speaker 1: be revolving around the career that he wanted to get

974
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 1: out of. This. Yeah, and I agree before the show,

975
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 1: but then I think he came on the show and

976
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 1: was like, oh my gosh, I'm falling for this girl.

977
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 1: Like I do think his feelings are real. Okay, but

978
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 1: then don't you think at that point and this is

979
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 1: my other thing. Okay, it's out there now, right, you've

980
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 1: put it out there. You came on here for music,

981
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 1: Now you're about her. I want to never see the

982
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 1: guitar again. Right, don't play another song, don't show us

983
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 1: you're a songwriter. Don't play a song. In the finale,

984
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 1: I think his quote was, um, you know, I'm not

985
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 1: good with my words. So here's that's all he is. Oh,

986
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 1: that's just such a big part of who he is.

987
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 1: I think he could use a little help in the

988
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 1: personality department. I wasn't good. Just had a like one

989
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 1: instance where he made a big like notion with her,

990
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: like something really exciting and fun. That wasn't about his music.

991
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 1: Every time it was a song time. Every time it's

992
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 1: about his music, even like you know, in the beginning

993
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:30,439
Speaker 1: he was doing his music a lot. Then he takes

994
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 1: her to hometowns. He does more music hometowns, that's what

995
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 1: he does. He's showing her in his world. Like, but

996
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 1: after they wrote a song together and obviously hand is

997
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 1: not a song on iTunes. I think he should. I

998
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 1: think that if we hadn't heard him singing until he

999
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 1: got to hometowns, it would have been a little bit different.

1000
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 1: But it dates. He was singing out of her on

1001
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 1: her balcony, and I mean, let's just call a spade

1002
00:47:55,480 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 1: a spade. He's not that good. I'm sorry, I'm just

1003
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 1: gonna say it. He's really not that good. Maybe maybe

1004
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 1: if he was out here seeing like somebody else and

1005
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 1: sweeping me off my feet, that would think something different.

1006
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 1: But it wasn't that good, and I got tired of it. Yeah,

1007
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 1: I mean, I look, I gave him the benefit of

1008
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 1: the doubt the entire season, but I definitely say, yeah,

1009
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 1: I need to drink up that one. Definitely at the end.

1010
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 1: I mean, my feelings for him completely changed. Especially let's

1011
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 1: talk about the girlfriend thing, the conversation they had, yes,

1012
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 1: because when that news broke. You know, I'm always writing

1013
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 1: about the show because I write it on my blog.

1014
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 1: When that news broke, I was like, I'm going to

1015
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 1: give him the benefit of the doubt because it's a

1016
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 1: one sided story. I want to hear his side before

1017
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 1: I make a decision. We kind of heard, we did

1018
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 1: hear his side on the show What So tell Us Debbie.

1019
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 1: When when Hannah first found out and she had that

1020
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 1: first phone call called you, what was she thinking? What

1021
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 1: was on her mind? It was really essentially it was

1022
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 1: about the fact that he had ruined her experience for

1023
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:57,319
Speaker 1: her because she was one of the most serious contestants

1024
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:59,800
Speaker 1: on The Bachelor. She was very serious about getting married.

1025
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:01,879
Speaker 1: She became the bachelorette, and I knew that she would

1026
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:04,320
Speaker 1: be perfect for it because she actually wants to be married.

1027
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 1: She believes in this and she's ready for it. And

1028
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 1: so she just felt like her experience got ruined. And

1029
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of it too, was like she

1030
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 1: thought Tyler was going to be a huge player because

1031
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 1: he's so hot and that's kind of what we all

1032
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 1: expect from him. And then she finds out that she

1033
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 1: was with the biggest player of them all, someone who

1034
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 1: had a girlfriend. That must have been so hard for her,

1035
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 1: Like how was she handling it? Was she in tears?

1036
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:33,319
Speaker 1: Was she angry? I mean all the emotions, Like, of

1037
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:37,359
Speaker 1: course she's angry. Of course she's sad, she feels let down.

1038
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 1: You know, I don't want to speak for her, but

1039
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:42,760
Speaker 1: I know she's going through a lot of emotions about

1040
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,359
Speaker 1: all of it. I just feel bad because I knew

1041
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:47,839
Speaker 1: that she was the one person who deserved, like out

1042
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 1: of our season, she truly deserved to have the best

1043
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 1: results from being the bachelorette because she was actually there

1044
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:56,959
Speaker 1: for the right reasons. I was there to have fun,

1045
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 1: she was there to find her husband. Well, when she

1046
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 1: found out, did she believe it? Initially she found out

1047
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 1: the day the People article was released. Did she believe

1048
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:11,399
Speaker 1: that article or was she like, okay, you know, like

1049
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 1: I'm in the public eye. Here come the people out

1050
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 1: of the woodworks from the past trying to have their moment. No,

1051
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:20,839
Speaker 1: she believed it. Why she believed it because of all

1052
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 1: of the evidence that came with it, and so she

1053
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 1: felt very deceived. She felt like, you know, he told

1054
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 1: me some of it, but he didn't tell me the

1055
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 1: extent of it. And he didn't tell me about the

1056
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: other girl. He told me about the one girl that

1057
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 1: he had been with another one wasn't there there. Apparently

1058
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 1: he had this relationship with this one girl, maybe not

1059
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,399
Speaker 1: official relationship, I don't even know what, and then he

1060
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:45,919
Speaker 1: was like cheating on her with another girl. God, so

1061
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 1: like that, it just kept being more and more and more.

1062
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 1: Here's my question. I asked you if Hannah believed the

1063
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 1: People article when it came out at that point, had

1064
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 1: she made a decision on the future of their relationship,

1065
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 1: like right whenever she saw the article. I think that,

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00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 1: you know, the thing about Hannah is that she got

1067
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 1: so empowered with a like on the Bachelor. Like she

1068
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 1: started off very very you know, shy and kind of

1069
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 1: quiet and unsure about herself, and she found herself on

1070
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 1: the Bachelor, and she became this amazing strong woman. She

1071
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:22,359
Speaker 1: became the bachelorette. That fueled her fire. She became so

1072
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 1: much stronger, like a rock star. She knew what she wanted,

1073
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 1: she wasn't afraid to confront people about what she wanted,

1074
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 1: and she wasn't going to put up with any shit.

1075
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 1: So whenever she read that People article and she had

1076
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 1: all of this evidence laid out in front of her

1077
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 1: about what had happened at that point, she said, like,

1078
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 1: you know, I imagine she would think, I could give

1079
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:48,399
Speaker 1: in and try to make this work, or I could

1080
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:50,399
Speaker 1: say true to who I found out that I am,

1081
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,359
Speaker 1: and I can be a rock star and I can

1082
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,799
Speaker 1: feel good about myself knowing that I'm walking away from

1083
00:51:56,800 --> 00:52:00,359
Speaker 1: something that is false, like there's already lies here. I'm

1084
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:03,919
Speaker 1: not going to tolerate that, you know, like there's dishonesty,

1085
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 1: Like this isn't what I want, and I'm not going

1086
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 1: to settle for it, even if I you know, I

1087
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 1: want to have that romantic ending and I want to

1088
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 1: have that happy ending, I'm not going to settle for that.

1089
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 1: And I'm going to continue to be this new strong

1090
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 1: woman that I am and fully embrace that. Dami, thank

1091
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:21,279
Speaker 1: you so much for joining us on our show. We

1092
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 1: are so happy to have you. Of course, I loved

1093
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:26,320
Speaker 1: being hare y'all are amazing. All right, Rachel, now we

1094
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 1: got to get to the heavy stuff. What did you

1095
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 1: think about Jed tonight? I thought that Jed did the

1096
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 1: best that he could do, right, which really wasn't much.

1097
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 1: All he could do at this point was apologize. I mean,

1098
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 1: that's the only card he had to play, and he

1099
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 1: apologized to everybody, Apologize to Hannah, her family, batch or nation,

1100
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 1: his family. I mean you really kind of feel sorry

1101
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 1: for him. I mean, granted, this is his fault, this

1102
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:55,359
Speaker 1: is his own doing. He's digging his own grave, but

1103
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 1: I mean he did the best that he could do,

1104
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 1: apologize and move on. Surely he didn't think he was

1105
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 1: going to get Hannah back. Yeah, And I honestly, I

1106
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 1: mean he did the best he could do, because I mean,

1107
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:11,359
Speaker 1: Jed has not had much emotion or personality. I mean,

1108
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 1: I feel mean saying that. The entire season, he's shown

1109
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 1: almost no no, I can't, I can't. I just it's okay.

1110
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:23,399
Speaker 1: I like to think, I don't know, it's weird. When

1111
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 1: do you become a parent, Rachel, when you and Brian

1112
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 1: start cranking up those babies, You're gonna understand. But I

1113
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 1: just feel like we saw nothing from him. There wasn't

1114
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 1: a single tear. He kept saying, yes, I'm still in

1115
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 1: love with you, but she's basically saying it's over, I'm done.

1116
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:41,319
Speaker 1: And nothing not a tear, not like a quiver of

1117
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:45,880
Speaker 1: the lip, like nothing. I just don't buy that. Like,

1118
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 1: I feel like he did what he needed to do.

1119
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 1: But I think at this point, like Jed doesn't love her.

1120
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 1: In my opinion, I don't think that he does anymore.

1121
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:57,840
Speaker 1: I think he's so probably deep down, very angry that

1122
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 1: he got caught. I believe that. Yeah, So I think

1123
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 1: it was a little bit of a show. To be honest,

1124
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,439
Speaker 1: he put it on a little show, but he did

1125
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 1: say what he needed to say, and I appreciate that

1126
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 1: he just took complete ownership, like you said, and apologized

1127
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 1: to the families, because that's a huge part of this.

1128
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 1: But one thing you know that I have to say

1129
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:25,959
Speaker 1: is Hannah was incredible tonight. I Mean we've talked about this, Rachel,

1130
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 1: the progression of Hannah throughout the season, and I have

1131
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 1: never seen her so poised and articulate and just the

1132
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 1: grace that she showed Jed. Like one of the things

1133
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 1: that I told you really upset me about her and

1134
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 1: in general, like I've talked about publicly and been critical

1135
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 1: about her about the season, is that I felt like

1136
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 1: a lot of times she made the show about her.

1137
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:50,240
Speaker 1: I mean, the show is her season, but she didn't

1138
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 1: she made the relationships about her rather than making about

1139
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 1: her and the men, or her and the man she

1140
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:58,799
Speaker 1: was with. Whereas tonight we saw her have so much

1141
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 1: grace for Jed. She kept saying, I feel for you,

1142
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:04,879
Speaker 1: I don't want you to hurt. Like that's a completely

1143
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 1: different side of Hannah, and we have seen her turn

1144
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 1: into like this incredible woman, which I was just so

1145
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 1: happy to see. Yeah. I really like the way that

1146
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 1: she said she was hurting, but she knows that he's

1147
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:18,919
Speaker 1: hurting too. Yeah, and she has her own critics, as

1148
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 1: does he. But I like this. She was very matter

1149
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 1: of fact and you could tell that she's cried her

1150
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 1: last cry and she has moved on. She has grown,

1151
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 1: and like she said, she has learned from this experience

1152
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 1: that although it didn't work out the way that she

1153
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 1: wanted to, she's learned something about herself and she is

1154
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:38,919
Speaker 1: way more aware. And I think we could all turn

1155
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 1: back and look at that one relationship where maybe we

1156
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:45,839
Speaker 1: were going through it blindly, but when it ended, it

1157
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:48,840
Speaker 1: was as if the lights came on and we learned

1158
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 1: so much about ourselves and we knew what we wanted

1159
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 1: out of the next relationship. And Hannah's going to be

1160
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 1: so much better for the next man because of the

1161
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 1: heartache that she went through with Jed. Yeah, it was

1162
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 1: so hard to watch, like when he first came out,

1163
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 1: just seeing her fighting back the tears. Like there are

1164
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:10,839
Speaker 1: a lot of moments in the Bachelor world I will

1165
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 1: say seem forced to me, Like, for instance, wherever whatever

1166
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 1: somebody on the show like says, I love you, for

1167
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:17,799
Speaker 1: the first time. I'm always like, oh, like it just

1168
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 1: doesn't seem genuine. It's like they feel like they have

1169
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 1: to say it. It's all weird and awkward. But man,

1170
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 1: what we saw from her and like, not not him,

1171
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:29,840
Speaker 1: but her was just real, raw, genuine emotion. Can we

1172
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 1: give a shout out to the ruthless audience at Afar?

1173
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 1: I mean the three claps that Jet, that Jet God

1174
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 1: when he walked out on stage, it was I mean

1175
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 1: I laughed out loud. I mean, nobody was clapping for Jet.

1176
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 1: Everybody was supporting Hannah. On Hannah's side, just they were savage.

1177
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 1: They were completely savage when it came to Jet. Yeah,

1178
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 1: total part. But what else are they going to do?

1179
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:55,959
Speaker 1: You know? I mean, I guess you could have given

1180
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 1: him like a little bit of an applause, but like

1181
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:01,400
Speaker 1: people are upset with him. But another thing, speaking of clapping,

1182
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:04,399
Speaker 1: when some people started to clap when she was kind

1183
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:07,279
Speaker 1: of putting him in his place, I guess a little bit.

1184
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 1: I don't know, that's not really the right way I

1185
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:10,759
Speaker 1: want to say it, but I love that she said, no,

1186
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:14,919
Speaker 1: don't clap, this is sad, and I just again show

1187
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 1: so much maturity on her side, and I've been waiting

1188
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 1: to see that from her all season and I'm just

1189
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 1: so proud of her. I feel like a proud bachelor

1190
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 1: at Mama, Like yeah, man, right, And that was the

1191
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 1: moment where it's also like it's not just pure entertainment.

1192
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:34,959
Speaker 1: Feelings are involved. People are hurt, emotions are running high,

1193
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 1: people were clapping because it was entertaining, and she shut

1194
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 1: them down like this is my life and that is

1195
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 1: what people won't remember. And I truly hope that, you know,

1196
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 1: for her tomorrow when she's doing these media rounds, it's

1197
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 1: going to be tough and people are going to come

1198
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 1: at her so many different ways and aren't going to

1199
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 1: have the same grace since that seems to be a

1200
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 1: theme in this finale that Chris Harrison had for her

1201
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 1: and questioning her. So I really hope that she is

1202
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 1: able to, you know, empower herself and use that strength

1203
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 1: that she's found through this season as she's going into

1204
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 1: these interviews because she's doing it alone and that's tough. Yeah,

1205
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 1: well she sho's just come on our podcast and we

1206
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 1: will show her that grace and have a lot of fun. Rachel,

1207
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, the season is over. But the podcast

1208
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 1: has just be gone. Bachelor in Paradise. I cannot wait.

1209
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 1: And we have more incredible guests. Yes, we have so

1210
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 1: many exciting guests coming in Paradise and we're going to

1211
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 1: kick it off on a high note. We've got Demmy

1212
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 1: coming back to talk about Paradise and her groundbreaking, you know,

1213
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 1: experience in Paradise. I cannot wait to hear everything that

1214
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 1: she's going to say when it comes to that. Then

1215
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 1: we've also got Kaylin coming up. Kaylin was involved in

1216
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 1: quite a bit of drama in Paradise and I can't

1217
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 1: wait to get her take on it. Quite a bit,

1218
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 1: a boatload of drama so I can be nice. Yes,

1219
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, Bachelor Paradise is going be so good. Guys,

1220
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 1: So make sure that you come right back here next

1221
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 1: week to hear our next podcast. We're so happy you're here,

1222
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 1: and cheers, cheers Rachel to you, Cheers to Bachelor Nation,

1223
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 1: and cheers to Hannah. And don't forget to check out

1224
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 1: Bachelor nation dot com, where you can find the latest

1225
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 1: news and all things Bachelor. All right, you guys, so

1226
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 1: raise your glass because Bachelor Happy Hour is out now.

1227
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 1: You can find it on Apple podcasts, Spotify, or wherever

1228
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 1: you listen to podcasts.