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Speaker 1: And Dan and Tye.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the salid verbal Boys and girls. My

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Speaker 2: name is ty hilde Brand. That fine gentleman over there,

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Speaker 2: the one, the only, still, the incomparable, the fatherly Dan Rubinstein, Sir,

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Speaker 2: how you doing today?

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Speaker 1: I'm tired, but I'm good. I've got the kiddos all

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Speaker 1: day today. We're sort of between school and camp, and

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Speaker 1: we've got some childcare COVID issues. Everybody's all right, so

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Speaker 1: that's good. But you know, sometimes you gotta juggle, and

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Speaker 1: I'm juggling here, and you might be asking yourself, well,

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Speaker 1: surely that stopped Dan from making the equivalent of I

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Speaker 1: early to make pizza dough even though I had full

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Speaker 1: time kiddo duty today. They're currently napping, let's hope. And

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Speaker 1: you might be thinking to yourself that surely Dan could

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Speaker 1: not have ignored all of the takes and the opinions

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Speaker 1: the college football world and just solely focused on a

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Speaker 1: silly concept for a way to frame it. Now, I'm

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Speaker 1: right there, I've got a concept. I'm locked in. I'm

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Speaker 1: very excited for today's show, and I have nothing else

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Speaker 2: We put out a call for your college football hot takes,

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Speaker 1: We put out the call it. That's what happens when

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Speaker 2: We've got your opinions. We're going to get to them

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Speaker 2: My first opinion, Dan, that I'd like to share here

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Speaker 1: That's a take. That is my take. Oh man, that's

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Speaker 2: Max Johnson is the answer. There definitely a capable backup

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Speaker 2: So I'm not welcome on the old Zesty ranch with no.

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Speaker 1: No, we are inclusive, we are will have you, but

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Speaker 2: Kenny Dillingham and bow Nix that one two punch, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: will set Oregon back five years.

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Speaker 1: That's really tough to do in a single year, like

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Speaker 2: Five years.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying five years, five years, Okay, show the work.

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Speaker 2: So his first gig was actually coaching bow knicks at Auburn,

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Speaker 2: he's been and OC for three years. One at Auburn,

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Speaker 2: Five years sets them back five years a whole time.

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Speaker 2: Sure, what do we think of?

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Speaker 1: All right? So am I in the campfire?

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Speaker 1: Am I at the campfire?

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Speaker 2: Yet? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: That's zesty enough?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, told you we've already seen the ceiling for Mike

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Speaker 1: Doesn't seem zesty? Come on, man, this is a you

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Speaker 2: These are all my takes, These are tie takes. Okay,

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Speaker 1: The ranch with that. So basically we're saying the best

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Speaker 2: I just feel like when they hired him, when they

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Speaker 2: we did see it in game one they played LSU.

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Speaker 2: with the exception of two years, Mike, we've just gone

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Speaker 2: I think you can get him to a place where

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Speaker 1: That's too sesty. So Mississippi State since two thousand, they're

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Speaker 1: playing eight SEC games. How many times they've won more

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Speaker 1: thou how many times? One time? One time? Yeah? Twenty

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Speaker 2: be good. Correct, that's correct. Okay, So Mississippi State doesn't

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Speaker 1: Correct. And so twenty twenty one, and this is still

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Speaker 1: it was year two of Mike Leach. They go four

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Speaker 1: right there. There's nothing to me about the Mike Leach

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Speaker 2: You are just the wet blanket to my hot takes here.

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Speaker 1: This is about as good as I can do in No,

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Speaker 1: I think the direction if you were trying to get

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Speaker 1: it kick up your spurs. I think you have to

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Speaker 2: Or three years.

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Speaker 1: Well, I appreciate the authenticity, but that but I'm saying

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Speaker 1: that's where you would go and you would support it.

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Speaker 1: That's by saying something like there there will be a

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Speaker 1: Like I'm saying, you can paint that picture for me

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Speaker 1: But like, something's always going to happen at Arkansas like clockwork,

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Speaker 1: You can say LSU is always prone to to dramatic occurrences.

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Speaker 1: to a standard. This ranch is bullshit, all right? Do

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Speaker 1: you have any more? I think you have it? In you.

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Speaker 2: The only other two things that are wrote down is

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Speaker 2: and this is just more of a me thing that

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Speaker 2: despite all of the all of the what do you

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Speaker 2: want to call criticism, all of the fun that was

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Speaker 2: poked online, we have not heard the last of Brian

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Speaker 2: Kelly's fake accent. I believe it'll come back.

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Speaker 1: Really, I like that. Oh there's some zest to that.

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Speaker 2: You don't think it's coming back?

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Speaker 1: No, No, I think it will.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. See, here's the thing I want to fashion myself.

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Speaker 2: Everybody needs their lane in college football media and media

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Speaker 1: I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't particularly care about being right about anything. I

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Speaker 2: Kelly watcher slash observer slash predictor.

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Speaker 1: Sure, I want to be.

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Speaker 2: I want to be that guy in your life. For

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Speaker 2: those of you listening at home.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we how old are you? How dare you? How

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Speaker 1: old are you? Come on, how dare you? I'm thirty eight,

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Speaker 1: you're thirty eight.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, probably at some point before our time. I'm a

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Speaker 1: A man of forty. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: There was an era where the all powerful guardrail in

436
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Speaker 2: society was shame, where shame actually meant something. But now

437
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Speaker 2: we're in this era of social media and clickbait and

438
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Speaker 2: politics and like a whole sort of whole bunch of

439
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Speaker 2: stuff where shame just doesn't really matter, right, if you've

440
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Speaker 2: got it within you to just switch off the shame,

441
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Speaker 2: switch the sensor. Sure a lot of us can't do that.

442
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Speaker 1: I can't do that.

443
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Speaker 2: You're better at doing it than I am, but you

444
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Speaker 2: still can't fully switch it off because you care. Yeah,

445
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Speaker 2: I feel like Brian Kelly can just switch it off.

446
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,879
Speaker 2: It's like the big breaker switch in the basement, that

447
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:30,399
Speaker 2: Brian Kelly can just switch off the shame. And I

448
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Speaker 2: don't think he cares. I think he's proven that he

449
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Speaker 2: can switch it off. It wasn't even like the accent

450
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Speaker 2: was something he tried to hide. He was in the

451
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Speaker 2: middle of a gymnasium.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he just did it'll. I think what will happen

453
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Speaker 1: with Brian Kelly is what probably happens to all of

454
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Speaker 1: us on a certain level, where the more time you

455
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Speaker 1: spend around people, and the more people spend time around you,

456
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Speaker 1: the more certain mannerisms will rub off. Now, he was

457
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Speaker 1: not in Baton Rouge for all that long.

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Speaker 2: This was not not a Matt Ryan situation right right, okay,

459
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Speaker 2: where Matt Ryan is from Downingtown, played in Boston College,

460
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Speaker 2: goes to Atlanta right now within a short enough period

461
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Speaker 2: of time, Like that's a normal thing that happens where you.

462
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Speaker 1: Kind of pick up little drawl.

463
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Speaker 2: And now he's in where Indianapolis, and I think he's

464
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Speaker 2: just brought the drawl with him, like.

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Speaker 1: That's a thing that happens.

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Speaker 2: But Brian Kelly was there forty five minutes right and

467
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Speaker 2: picked up the draw family.

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Speaker 1: He'll he'll, he'll just an oppressor. He'll drop a y'all,

469
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Speaker 1: he will will drop it. Y'all are asking a lot

470
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Speaker 1: about the quarterback opening, Yes, but you're not to word

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Speaker 1: that's what it'll be. And I don't know if he's

472
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Speaker 1: around it all day every day, And truth be told,

473
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Speaker 1: y'all kind of rolls off the tongue, and it's easier

474
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Speaker 1: to say than all of you or you guys or

475
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Speaker 1: all of you out there. It is easier. And so

476
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't fully blame him for picking up a couple

477
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Speaker 1: of more regional words or s now, there is a line, there.

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Speaker 2: Is and thank you bring up the line, continue to

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Speaker 2: talk about.

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Speaker 1: The line, and go with it. Next, if Brian Kelly

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Speaker 1: starts going into like old fashioned sayings, like during these

482
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Speaker 1: pressers where somebody asks him about an outside linebacker, you know,

483
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Speaker 1: becoming an edge rusher or something like that, and he

484
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Speaker 1: says something like, well, you know what they say. You

485
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Speaker 1: can't teach a cricket to sing twice on Thursday. Like okay, okay,

486
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Speaker 1: settle down, Brian, settle, settle down. But beyond that, I

487
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Speaker 1: think whatever he morphs into will now be more gradual

488
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Speaker 1: and thoughtful and calculated.

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Speaker 2: I think he's got that okay, calculated politician side of

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Speaker 2: him that is not always apparent, but now he's his

491
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Speaker 2: guard is up though because he was called out. He's

492
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Speaker 2: gonna do it anyway. I don't think he cares. I

493
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Speaker 2: don't think he gives a damn okay. I think he

494
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Speaker 2: sees it as a way to help benefit him, help

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Speaker 2: benefit the program, help get him that national championship.

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Speaker 1: And I think he'll use it. I don't think he cares. Okay,

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Speaker 1: fair enough.

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Speaker 2: The only other thing I had here is my last one,

499
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Speaker 2: is that setups that involve three or more televisions are

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Speaker 2: overrated right, And I don't know if that's too hot of.

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Speaker 1: A take, you're asking the wrong person. Probably, I can't

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Speaker 1: pay attention to more than two. I can't pay attention

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Speaker 1: to more than one. Yeah, I can do two. I've

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Speaker 1: sort of trained my eyes in my very silly brain

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Speaker 1: to be able to handle two. It's not great, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: the multi TV setup thing, it it works in a bar.

507
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Speaker 1: If you're like more locked in on one game, the

508
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Speaker 1: bar is want something to look at.

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Speaker 2: The bars, the reception, the bar is the exception.

510
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Speaker 1: But yeah, it's tough. It's tricky, all right.

511
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Speaker 2: Do we want to get to Harver ball Er hot

512
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Speaker 2: takes here on? I would love to old Zesty Ranch

513
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Speaker 2: give me that music one more time.

514
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Speaker 1: I need people working on my ranch.

515
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Speaker 2: I'm apparently just sort of passing through here, not sitting

516
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Speaker 2: at the campfire, not in the inner sanctum.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're a contractor.

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Speaker 2: I'm a contractor, right, I'm installing a new fence or

519
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Speaker 2: something whatever. Who is getting admittance to your old Zesty Ranch, Dan?

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Speaker 1: I mean anybody that brings a little bit as zest.

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Speaker 1: I like this one right here. Ryan Day could still

522
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Speaker 1: be a bust. Okay, that's good. Been to the playoff.

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Speaker 1: When the Rose Bowl, Ryanda could still be a bus

524
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Speaker 1: Most Ohio State fans would admit last year didn't live

525
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Speaker 1: up to potential, and COVID protocols supported them through twenty twenty.

526
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Speaker 1: I think that's pretty hot, because that's extremely hot. I

527
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Speaker 1: welcome you Brendan from Instagram. You're welcome to work on

528
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Speaker 1: my ranch. I I don't think that's true. Now, there

529
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Speaker 1: are certain situations, you know, you look at Larry Coker

530
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Speaker 1: and you look at Mark Helfrich where somebody has a

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Speaker 1: certain degree of success early on with somebody else's players

532
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Speaker 1: and the rhythm and momentum of somebody else's program. But

533
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Speaker 1: with Ryan with what Ryan Day and this staff, especially

534
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Speaker 1: Brian Hartline, have done on the recruiting trail and are

535
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Speaker 1: pretty ruthless about getting rid of and hiring new assistants

536
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 1: who clearly aren't working out and clearly aren't the answer,

537
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Speaker 1: but keeping them on from the previous administration for continuity's sake.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. It's really tough to see a world

539
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Speaker 1: in which Ryan Day is a bust in a world

540
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Speaker 1: in a world. But if I were to paint that universe, ty,

541
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Speaker 1: if we're going to sit around this digital bonfire on

542
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Speaker 1: the Zesti Ranch. You can say, Okay, Michigan's only getting better.

543
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Speaker 1: Maybe I'm just saying I'm just paying a universe. Michigan's

544
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 1: only getting better. Penn State can't be worse given their

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Speaker 1: talent level. Michigan State under Mel Tucker is coming up,

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Speaker 1: and there is a certain level of competence that we're

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Speaker 1: seeing from teams. And even if they're half teams, even

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Speaker 1: if it's just Wisconsin's defense, even if it's just you know,

549
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Speaker 1: Minnesota doing it three times every four games or something,

550
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Speaker 1: then they have a dud game. There are enough teams now,

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Speaker 1: and Purdue is always going to be spicy for a

552
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Speaker 1: week or two. There are enough teams now to guarantee,

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Speaker 1: thank you.

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Speaker 2: It took me a little bit longer.

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Speaker 1: To guarantee Ohio State one and a half losses a year,

556
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Speaker 1: and by Ohio State standards, if they just largely missed

557
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Speaker 1: the playoff under Ryan Day, that could feel busty that

558
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 1: they're losing to a good team and an average team

559
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Speaker 1: most years in the Big Ten. I could be talked

560
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Speaker 1: into calling him a bust Sure, there's got to.

561
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Speaker 2: Be a line for that, though, don't you think by

562
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Speaker 2: the way, I got the sunglasses on. That is bright,

563
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Speaker 2: that is bright, that is its great, that is white hot.

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Speaker 1: That take I think Brendan brought it.

565
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Speaker 2: Brenda did bring it taking the lasses off. So I

566
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Speaker 2: can see again. What is the line though, for bus,

567
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Speaker 2: Because you know, there are a lot of good coaches

568
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Speaker 2: in college football. Not everyone's Nick Saban or Dabbo Sweeney

569
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Speaker 2: or Kirby Smart. Right, It's very normal in the head

570
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Speaker 2: coaching profession, especially in college to have a run of

571
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Speaker 2: like five or six good years and then at Peter's off.

572
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Speaker 1: Look Gary Patterson.

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Speaker 2: Right. Gary Patterson was at TCU for a while, some

574
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Speaker 2: better days, some words, but you know when he lost it.

575
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Speaker 2: He lost at mac Brown at Texas.

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Speaker 1: Right.

577
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Speaker 2: Mac Brown one with a historic team, a national championship

578
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Speaker 2: over USC and the Rose Bowl. H after that, you know,

579
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Speaker 2: a couple of years after that, I should say it

580
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 2: started to peter out. Mac Brown might not be the

581
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Speaker 2: best example, but you know what I'm going for here,

582
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Speaker 2: like it doesn't always last forever. And so what I

583
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Speaker 2: don't want to do with Ryan Day, who I think

584
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Speaker 2: is a good coach and has maintained and recruiting at

585
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Speaker 2: the same, if not higher level, than it was before

586
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Speaker 2: he got there. What I don't want to do is

587
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Speaker 2: throw him into this into this unwinnable space where if

588
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Speaker 2: he doesn't continue this clip forever, he's some sort of bust.

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Speaker 1: That wouldn't be fair. But that's the bar given how

590
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 1: well they recruit. The bar is playoff often, and so

591
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Speaker 1: the bar for me is if they lose three straight

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Speaker 1: to Michigan, if they mount consecutive three loss seasons. I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying he is a bust, but I'm saying Ohio

594
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Speaker 1: State fans and powerful Ohio State people will fall into that.

595
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Speaker 1: Taylor Twelman, what are we doing? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: What are we doing? I gotta get that sound, don't

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Speaker 2: I Let me make a note.

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Speaker 1: Of that he's the best. I like him a lot.

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Speaker 1: That's all. That's that's the world, that's the universe that

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Speaker 1: I would construct that he would be in that category,

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Speaker 1: especially with how much quarterback success he's had both as

602
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Speaker 1: a coordinator and head coach ched Ohio State, that it

603
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Speaker 1: is especially zesty to think that will disappear as Ohio

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Speaker 1: State continues to bring in the best quarterbacks in the

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Speaker 1: country or the you know, the grouping in the grouping

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Speaker 1: every year bringing in I think they have the number

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Speaker 1: one or number two guy in the twenty twenty four

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Speaker 1: class from Arizona. I want to say, so, all right,

609
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Speaker 1: I'm ready for something new. You're ready. Go ahead, let's

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Speaker 1: hear it. Peyton from Twitter Casey Thompson will finish top

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Speaker 1: three in Heisman voting this year while leading Nebraska to

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Speaker 1: a ten and two record. So that's pretty good. Wow.

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Speaker 1: So there are certain implications and allusions to saying.

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Speaker 2: That in that ten and two.

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Speaker 1: In that Casey Thompson is going to be especially accurate

616
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Speaker 1: and I'm not careful, but not the same level of

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Speaker 1: carelessness exhibited by the Nebraska offense in high leverage situations

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Speaker 1: or just in dropback passing situations that they've been in

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Speaker 1: these past couple of years. That playmakers will develop on offense,

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Speaker 1: and that they'll be very little fall off on defense

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Speaker 1: despite losing some key contributors, and Nebraska's schedule we talked

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Speaker 1: about this a little bit, is much more manageable and

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Speaker 1: navigable this upcoming year. So on its face, it seems like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's a good amount of zest to that claim. But

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Speaker 1: he'll have the opportunity relatively early on. I don't know

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Speaker 1: what week they have Oklahoma, but to perform at an

627
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Speaker 1: extremely high level against a high profile opponent that people

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Speaker 1: will be watching that game, and that seems to be

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Speaker 1: important most years, that you have that big showing in

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Speaker 1: the first four or five weeks of the year to

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Speaker 1: get on people's radars. So the world I'm constructing is

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Speaker 1: I'm not totally terrified of a lot of the defenses

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Speaker 1: on Nebraska's schedule. Are you? You have it in front

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Speaker 1: of you.

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Speaker 2: I do have it in front of me. I'm looking

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00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 2: at it right now. To run through it quickly. They've

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00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 2: got Northwestern week zero as it were in Dublin, North Dakota,

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00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:16,760
Speaker 2: Georgia Southern. They've got Oklahoma at home that is week three,

639
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:18,359
Speaker 2: since they get off to a little bit of an

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00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 2: early start here. Then as you continue through, they've got

641
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Speaker 2: their bye week after Oklahoma, followed by Indiana at Rutgers

642
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 2: at Purdue, another bye week because they play a week

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Speaker 2: zero game home against Illinois, home against Minnesota at Michigan,

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Speaker 2: home against Wisconsin, close out the year on the road

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Speaker 2: at Iowa. So that's their sort of murderer's wounders row

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Speaker 2: as we've called yeah last three weeks of the season.

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Speaker 2: At Michigan home against Wisconsin at Iowa. But the rest

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Speaker 2: of it is extremely workable, And so ten and two

649
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 2: is aggressive. I like the spice, so there's zero baggage.

650
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 2: I like the aggressiveness of that take and the spiciness

651
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 2: of that take, And I could kind of see it like,

652
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 2: I'm not enamored with Iowa, I'm not enamored with Wisconsin.

653
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 2: I'm not even enamored with Oklahoma in the way that

654
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,320
Speaker 2: I expected when I saw this game on the schedule.

655
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 2: So ten and two, though very spicy, very aggressive, is

656
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 2: not totally outside the realm of possibility.

657
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 1: If you're going to believe that the universe evens itself out,

658
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: that things come back to the mean that Nebraska losing

659
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:33,879
Speaker 1: the number of games in the manner in which they

660
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: did last year means that the universe now tilts in

661
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 1: the direction of the Huskers. If you're a believer in

662
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 1: such things, I think there is reasonable belief in that

663
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 1: kind of zest that Casey Thompson does not come in

664
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 1: with that type of Nebraska baggage that oh my god,

665
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 1: I've been here for so long. I really need to

666
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,839
Speaker 1: make this work and help Scott Frost live up to expectations.

667
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. He comes in new offensive coordinator who,

668
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: by the way, had a high has been caliber quarterback

669
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 1: under his tutelage last year, and Kenny Pickett, yep, that

670
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: there was you know, Casey Thompson doesn't start last year,

671
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 1: Hudson card starts and then you know was yanked in

672
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 1: the Arkansas game. That there was a a certain amount

673
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 1: of baggage at Texas. Sure, I A good amount is asked,

674
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 1: so I welcome you. But that's the universe building that

675
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: I could do.

676
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 2: What is unclear, and what we will find out very

677
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 2: quickly is how much of the Nebraska offense that we

678
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 2: saw last year was due to design versus how much

679
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 2: of it was due to Adrian Martinez just trying to

680
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 2: go out there and do everything. Because he rushed for

681
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:39,800
Speaker 2: thirteen touchdowns, he threw for fourteen more, wasn't a particularly

682
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 2: careful passer. He had ten interceptions, though he did complete

683
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 2: over sixty percent of his passes. How much of it

684
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 2: was Adrian Martinez, how much of it was the actual design?

685
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,320
Speaker 2: And we're going to find out a lot. New quarterback,

686
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 2: new offensive coordinator, same old Scott Frost trying to save

687
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:59,359
Speaker 2: his job. That's been a recurring theme, but we'll find

688
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 2: that out relative soon. You're ready, I'm ready, Matt from Twitter.

689
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 2: Blake Shapen will be the Big twelve Offensive Player of

690
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 2: the Year and also adds Florida wins the SEC East

691
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 2: on both accounts.

692
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 1: Yes, grab a cold one, grab some SaaS Marilla, kick

693
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 1: off your spurs.

694
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 2: Welcome Blake Shapen. Huh Blake Shapen as Bradley who writes

695
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 2: for our site. Yeah, said Shapen not stirred, which I love,

696
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 2: not bad and will continue to use. Blake Shapen in

697
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 2: the limited action that he saw only eighty six passing attempts,

698
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 2: but five touchdowns, no interceptions, and completed seventy two point

699
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,879
Speaker 2: one percent of his passes last year. Yeah, so you'll

700
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 2: recall the situations in which Blake Shaping came in. When

701
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 2: Gary Bohannon was hurt, No one really knew what to expect.

702
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 2: He looked very poised, he looked very good. It didn't

703
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:54,839
Speaker 2: look at all like the moment was too big for him.

704
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 2: And I think that, among other things, is why if

705
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 2: you're Dave Randa, you really had no issue turning the

706
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 2: reins over to him, right, you know? In advance of

707
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty two season, Gary Bohannon transfers out. So

708
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 2: it is Blake Shapeen's thing now, come hell or high water.

709
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: Sure, uh slowed down against Oklahoma States some in the

710
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 1: Big Twelve championship game, but that's to be expected. And

711
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 1: he was young. And I if if I'm gonna go

712
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: against the zestiness, who are the the front runners to

713
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 1: be the Big twelve offensive player of the year, Like,

714
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 1: who are the people like? Okay, JT. Daniels, I suppose

715
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 1: could have a magical year.

716
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, Queen Viewers is gonna be geenre Johnson

717
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:46,320
Speaker 2: sure could be the quin Youewers, depending how that goes.

718
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 2: Dylan Gabriel, all of There's there's a lot of names.

719
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 2: I wouldn't go as far as saying obvious names.

720
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 1: No, nobody's obvious. TCU is a mess. Yeah, Texas Tech

721
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 1: is sort of starting all over and number of ways. Yep.

722
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if they'd necessarily have a front running

723
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 1: type name. So I think there's a good amount of zestiness.

724
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 1: It's a good sign that he was already named quarterback. Yes,

725
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: that it wasn't Dave Randa in spring saying guys. Both

726
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 1: of these both of these fellows are competing. It's going

727
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:20,359
Speaker 1: to go into fall camp. I want to see who

728
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 1: can bring it more consistently. It was No, he's a guy,

729
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: and that's that's probably a very human thing to do

730
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,879
Speaker 1: to tell Bohannan like, look, it's not going to be here,

731
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: so you should probably take advantage of this timing to

732
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,839
Speaker 1: find the right fit and home for you. So that's

733
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:39,359
Speaker 1: a good sign that Blake Shapin has probably a much

734
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:43,919
Speaker 1: higher ceiling than Bohannan. But no, I think this is good.

735
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 1: I think this is a good, well thought out ZESTI take.

736
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 1: I'm with it.

737
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,359
Speaker 2: Also, Geary Bohannon did not have a bad year last year.

738
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 1: No, I think he had an obvious ceiling.

739
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 2: He had an obvious ceiling. But there were yeah, pretty

740
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 2: good chunks of last season where we came on this

741
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 2: show talking about how accurate it was, how how responsible

742
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 2: he was with the football, that type of stuff. So

743
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:13,800
Speaker 2: the fact that as soon as humanly possible, David Randa

744
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 2: would make this call, would let Gary Bohannon know so

745
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 2: we could go elsewhere, and would turn this thing over

746
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:22,359
Speaker 2: to shape. And I agree, I think you're I think

747
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 2: you're singing the right tune here. What I'm not sure about, though,

748
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 2: is Florida winning the SEC East.

749
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 1: That's got a lot of zest. That's really really spicy,

750
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:38,919
Speaker 1: fair fair, that's that's a little much. So you would

751
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 1: need a number of things to happen in the SEC East.

752
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: I mean in terms of a Georgia implosion. What else

753
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 1: do you truly need in the SEC East beyond that?

754
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 1: And you need everything to work out. You need everything to.

755
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 2: Work for Anthony Richardson to work out, right, and he

756
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 2: was her last year. This is not like.

757
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:05,839
Speaker 1: It's not especially he's esty, because there's a very good

758
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 1: chance he will work out. We've seen what he's capable of.

759
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 2: That part's not particularly zesty. But you know, you're kind

760
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:18,720
Speaker 2: of forced into this corner where you have to assume

761
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 2: Billy Napier gets everybody playing optimally right away. It's not

762
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 2: an easy slate for Florida to start the season. The

763
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 2: game against Utah followed by a game against Kentucky, both

764
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 2: at home.

765
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 1: But there's no.

766
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 2: Buffer zone. You don't have any opportunity to kind of

767
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 2: get into the flow of the season before things really

768
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 2: come at you hot and heavy.

769
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 1: Unless you're a believer in Stetson Bennett having a fat

770
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 1: Elvis face where he's accomplished where he wants to what

771
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 1: he wants to accomplish. He's reached the mountaintop and he's

772
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 1: just coasting. I'm not implying that Stetson Bennett's going to

773
00:41:56,000 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 1: have an unfortunate ending on a toilet, but if you

774
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:07,720
Speaker 1: are to believe that el he's if Stetson Bennett, especially

775
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: with the loss of you know, probably both of his

776
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 1: best receivers last year and George Pickens and Jermaine Burton,

777
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 1: is going to have fewer guys running open downfield, new

778
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 1: running backs, too much new on offense that even if

779
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 1: they're the clear class of the East that it's in

780
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 1: any given Saturday situation in the cocktail party, and Florida

781
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 1: is hitting on all cylinders, and Anthony Richardson just is

782
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 1: fulfilling the promise that he has displayed and is thrilled

783
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 1: with this kind of fresh start with a new staff

784
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 1: and new system. Okay, right, I'm it's zesty. It's zesty. Nonetheless,

785
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:53,359
Speaker 1: but I would appreciate if everybody who were submitting, who

786
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 1: was submitting these actually built that universe and not relied

787
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 1: on the proprietor of this fire. I'm all right, all right.

788
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 2: Next take here on the old zesty ranch Dan.

789
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 1: Are you a ranch fan, by the way, will you

790
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:09,280
Speaker 1: go out of your way for ranch dressing?

791
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 2: I'm not not a ranch dressing fan. I'm sort of

792
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:13,839
Speaker 2: to it.

793
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 1: I like it. Yeah, I like a ranch seasoning.

794
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 2: No.

795
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:19,320
Speaker 1: I don't go out of my way for the dressing.

796
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:21,280
Speaker 2: Nah. I don't go out of my way for anything

797
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 2: ranch related.

798
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 1: But people love it on their pizza. Here.

799
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 2: I have everything here. Good love ranch dressing in the Midwest.

800
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 2: Next take please, by Next take okay?

801
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 1: Next take ty, you choose it, go for it.

802
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 2: This one from bad Way Okay on Twitter. Twenty four

803
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,879
Speaker 2: year old super Duper senior Sean Clifford will use all

804
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 2: of his experience to place himself in the Heisman. Running

805
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 2: through the Ohio State game culminating in Penn State is

806
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,240
Speaker 2: very well written. Culminating in Penn State beating the Buckeyes

807
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 2: to improve to a seven to one start. The Lions

808
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 2: then lose two of their final four games. Clifford, creators

809
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 2: by the Way bad Way, hosts a podcast called The

810
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 2: Last Row, one of my favorite movie podcasts which are

811
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 2: check out nice This is very well written, and I

812
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 2: think very much on Q. I don't know how spicy

813
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 2: this is, but Sean Clifford getting himself in the Heisman

814
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 2: running is I think the key kernel here that we

815
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 2: should unpack on the ranch because I could see it

816
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 2: going well for Penn State. It's got to go better

817
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 2: than it did last year, right, Sure? I could see

818
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 2: Penn State getting to that juncture where there's seven to one,

819
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 2: they go in, they knock off Ohio State to get

820
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,280
Speaker 2: to seven to one, excuse me, and then just crater

821
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 2: and maybe Clifford gets hurt and the whole thing comes

822
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 2: apart and we're talking like, what what's the future look

823
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 2: like for Penn State football?

824
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

825
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 2: I could totally see this happening almost exactly the way

826
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 2: he laid this out. So the Sean Clifford case is

827
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 2: that you're Sitch is what his third coordinator in three

828
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 2: or four years and having.

829
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 1: Kirksharrock. You weren't ready for this, worry were you weren't

830
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 1: ready to have the drop at the ready? I wasn't. No,

831
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 1: you aren't. It's okay? And he did he overlap with

832
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 1: was he recruited by Morehead? I believe so yeah, okay, so.

833
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:17,800
Speaker 2: That's tricky, and so now he gets him, he gets

834
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 2: your sitch. A second year, they can't be much worse

835
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 2: than they were running the ball last year, and as

836
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 2: we know, you know that affects the play action game.

837
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 2: He'll be given opportunities by what we presume to be

838
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 2: another good defense, whether it's field position or just you

839
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 2: don't need to score a ton because the defense is

840
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 2: limiting other teams. The Ohio State game is in Happy Valley, correct, correct,

841
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:38,240
Speaker 2: at noon.

842
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: They should start out. There's a good chance they start

843
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 1: out five and zero. So in terms of the Heisman stage,

844
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 1: he'll get Auburn on Network TV, right on CBS. Yep,

845
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 1: it's zesty, it's hopeful. It sounds like bad Way is

846
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 1: speaking from the heart, which I can appreciate because I

847
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 1: don't know what else you would speak from if you

848
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 1: believe Sean Clifford to be a Heisman caliber quarterback, and

849
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 1: you can look at the rocky nature of Porus, of

850
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett and a number of quarterbacks who weren't anywhere

851
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 1: near Heisman caliber before they were right, I think you

852
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 1: need an unexpectedly down big ten coupled with the universe.

853
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 1: I've built for Penn State to get Sean Clifford into

854
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: that conversation, just because the tentative nature of his game

855
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 1: is not It doesn't speak Heisman volumes, so I can

856
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 1: see how you would build it, but I also still

857
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 1: think it's built mostly out of duct tape and chicken wire.

858
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 2: David, on a related topic, says that Minnesota and Penn

859
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 2: State will only have one combined loss when they play

860
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 2: in Week eight. Okay, Also, Michigan State comes back down

861
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:58,919
Speaker 2: Earth goes seven to five with losses to the other

862
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 2: three in the East. Wow, that is zesty. So to

863
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 2: bad ways point, David is bringing up that the Minnesota game,

864
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:13,439
Speaker 2: which is going to be played in Happy Valley Week eight,

865
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 2: So it's a weird sandwich spot for Penn State if

866
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 2: we're being honest, but also a revenge spot for Penn

867
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 2: State given the history with that Minnesota game and how

868
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 2: they ruin things in the late nineties for the Nitney Lions.

869
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 2: Minnesota going into that game is also in an interesting spot.

870
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 2: We talked about them on the episode that we did

871
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 2: a couple weeks ago. I guess last year, but Minnesota

872
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 2: starts out spectacularly in terms of their own schedule New

873
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 2: Mexico State, Western Illinois, Colorado before they get to Michigan

874
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 2: State a little bit later on in the season week four, right,

875
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,839
Speaker 2: The schedule before they play Penn State is also very

876
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 2: very workable. So I think it absolutely stands to reason

877
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 2: that there's one combined loss between those two teams when

878
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 2: the Golden Gophers go to Happy Valley. That does not

879
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 2: seem particularly spicy to me.

880
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 1: What I'm curious to get your quick take.

881
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 2: On, though, is the Michigan State thing. The Michigan State

882
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 2: thing is of interest because what he's saying here is

883
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 2: seven to five, which would be like a big step

884
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 2: down from where they were last year, and then also

885
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 2: including losses to the other three teams in the Big

886
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:27,959
Speaker 2: Ten East. Of course, that would include Ohio State, Penn State,

887
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 2: Michigan Right, Michigan and Penn State. Of those three games

888
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 2: are on the road.

889
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 1: So no Michigan State is especially active in the portal

890
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball, and so presumably the

891
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 1: talent level and production on defense, especially in that backfield

892
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 1: they brought in. It was a mere speed from Georgia,

893
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 1: I believe Corner great name, yes, So they have addressed

894
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 1: those issues as best they can they lose a Heisman

895
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:59,359
Speaker 1: caliber running back? Do they not? Kenith Walker? Correct, he's done,

896
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 1: though you probably don't have that at the ready either. God,

897
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 1: you're pretty good. There we go. That's pretty bad. That's

898
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 1: you're good. You're back falling to seven and five. There

899
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 1: were some instances where Michigan State caught a good bounce

900
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 1: last year, which all good teams need, most good teams need.

901
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:24,439
Speaker 1: That's okay, I could see it. I think they're worse

902
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 1: than Ohio State. All they do is beat Michigan like

903
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 1: that would be an unforeseen Thank you very much, Gus.

904
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 1: We're considering Penn State part of a big like I

905
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 1: who does Michigan State have non conference? Do you have

906
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 1: that in front of you? I do.

907
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 2: Michigan State has Western Michigan, they have Akron, they have

908
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:50,280
Speaker 2: Washington in their non conference.

909
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 1: That's already three. It's already three likely wins. That doesn't

910
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 1: take much more to get to seven.

911
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 2: You beat Illinois, Rutgers in Indiana, you get to six. Yeah,

912
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 2: then you just need to beat Maryland to get to seven.

913
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 2: And then this implies that they this this hot take

914
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 2: implies that they're losing to Minnesota, Ohio State, Wisconsin, Michigan

915
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 2: and Penn State. Yeah, I think they can win a

916
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 2: couple of those games.

917
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,320
Speaker 1: All right. Next, I think I think eight is a

918
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 1: I So that's zesty. It's zesty that they're going to

919
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 1: have a downturn, but decent. You can you can hang.

920
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 1: You're not a full timer to me? Do you have

921
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 1: the USC Bama one? Is that in front of you?

922
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 2: I have the USC Bama one right in front of Okay,

923
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 2: this is from This is from Jimmy on Instagram. Come

924
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 2: on over, Jimmy, get take a load off. Keep the

925
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 2: music playing now. I want to I want that music.

926
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:50,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, go for it.

927
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:55,840
Speaker 2: Lincoln Riley and USC will be will be.

928
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 1: Alabama in five.

929
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:06,359
Speaker 2: Years? Oh man, Okay, you cut the music off too soon.

930
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 1: It's not out in my ears. Okay, there you go.

931
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 1: You can live in it.

932
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 2: I can fade it out and post.

933
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 1: I know you can. We're going for a vibe here

934
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:20,839
Speaker 1: on the old Zesty ranch. All right. Oh you want

935
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,879
Speaker 1: that part? Right? That's the part. I want the harmonica.

936
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 1: I think it is a harmonica.

937
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, we do a nice little smooth fade out whatever

938
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 2: you need.

939
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:35,720
Speaker 1: Will this happen? Will this not happen?

940
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 2: Dan?

941
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 1: I mean I can manually fade it here. It is

942
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 1: work that board man, Thank you. This is so zesty.

943
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 1: Alabama is squarely in the middle of the most dominant

944
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 1: run of the modern era in college football. USC, at

945
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 1: its absolute peak, has a disputed national title, an out

946
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 1: and out national title, and a national title loss in

947
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:08,359
Speaker 1: consecutive seasons memorable fashion. I'm gonna ask you a personal question.

948
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 2: I love when you ask me personal questions.

949
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 1: Did you have a type when you were dating?

950
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 2: I think I probably did? Yeah, Yeah, okay, I think so.

951
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:21,320
Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley seems to have a type. And that type

952
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 1: is either a receiver or a cornerback. And in order

953
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 1: for USC, which has certain advantages that there's not in

954
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 1: the way of a return to dynastic form in the

955
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 1: Pac twelve, cornerback or quarterback corner quarterback is yeah, everybody

956
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 1: has to have quarter like you look at what USC

957
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 1: has been able to recruit and get commitments from. It's

958
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 1: basically there's no offensive and defensive line. Linebackers are few

959
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:55,360
Speaker 1: and far between. It's a lot of defensive backs and

960
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:59,359
Speaker 1: wide receivers that he's building the plane out of six

961
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 1: to undred and eighty two pound guys. Sure, right, right,

962
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 1: But it's early. It's early, so he doesn't have a

963
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 1: lot in the way within the PAC twelve, it looks

964
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 1: like it's going to be Utah and Oregon for the

965
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 1: foreseeable future. That you're probably selling short to medium term

966
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 1: on ASU. Washington is not recruiting on a level that

967
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 1: would have you confident that they're back to being playoff ish,

968
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:29,360
Speaker 1: and Stanford is free fallen. Cal doesn't seem all that thorny.

969
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 1: It's just it's not. Colorado's taking a, you know, a

970
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 1: nose dive after their appearance in the PAC twelve championship game.

971
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 1: And UCLA just seems to have a seven and a

972
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:42,799
Speaker 1: half eight win ceiling, right. Yeah, UCLA is kind of

973
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 1: unserious about becoming a ten win program, even though they

974
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 1: spend the money with Jim Kelly to do so. It

975
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 1: just doesn't seem like that's in the cards. So their

976
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 1: path to becoming a consistent playoff team is pretty decent.

977
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 1: The zestiness of the net Bama being Lincoln Riley and

978
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 1: the defense is Lincoln Riley has been able to mount

979
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 1: by and large, other than the back half of twenty twenty. Yeah,

980
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 1: I love the zest of this. I wish that this

981
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 1: person who submitted it.

982
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 2: This was Jimmy on Instagram.

983
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wish there was more in the way of

984
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 1: showing Jimmy's work, but there's a good amount of s

985
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:31,240
Speaker 1: to this. I love it. I love that Jimmy's heart

986
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 1: is has to be purely cardinal and gold.

987
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 2: I love it, I will say, And this is continuing

988
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 2: a trend that we've seen all off season long. Everybody's

989
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:41,839
Speaker 2: got a hot take on Lincoln Riley, whether it's from

990
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 2: the Oklahoma side, whether it's from the USC side, whether

991
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:46,800
Speaker 2: it's from the NIL side.

992
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 1: Everybody.

993
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 2: Everybody has some sort of Lincoln Riley take. Let me

994
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 2: run through a couple of these here and you can

995
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:56,839
Speaker 2: pick one out that you like. Three tech Pod on

996
00:54:56,880 --> 00:55:00,800
Speaker 2: Twitter amidst Nil quarrels and too many in the kitchen,

997
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:04,919
Speaker 2: ussego seven and five and watches Utah win the Rose Bowl.

998
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 2: They also give up sixty plus to use CLA again.

999
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 2: Bread Buddy on Instagram Lincoln Riley will need three or

1000
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 2: more years to win the Pac twelve with USC on

1001
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 2: the Oklahoma side, We've got Lincoln Riley was just holding

1002
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:24,720
Speaker 2: Oklahoma back. We've got And then some sort of semi

1003
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:29,319
Speaker 2: related points here about Brent Vannables leading Oklahoma to a

1004
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:32,919
Speaker 2: Big twelve title and a playoff. Berth also implying that

1005
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 2: perhaps Lincoln Riley was holding back Oklahoma. And then we've

1006
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 2: got a general Booty related one here, which is to

1007
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 2: say that General Booty is going to put the team

1008
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:44,319
Speaker 2: on his back and Oklahoma is going to win it

1009
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 2: all this year. It's a very aggressive general Booty take.

1010
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 2: Thank you Christian from Instagram, like that any of those

1011
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:54,840
Speaker 2: speaking to you on the old zesty ranch, I.

1012
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 1: Mean, nobody really showing their work here. But the General

1013
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 1: Booty one is zesty give and that he's not going

1014
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:04,240
Speaker 1: to be starting a quarterback. And I think this person

1015
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 1: just wanted to use the phrase general booty. I don't

1016
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:13,439
Speaker 1: know USC goes seven and five. I think they're much

1017
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 1: better than seven and five. But USC watching Utah win

1018
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 1: the Rose Bowl unseasoned potato salad, to me, they did

1019
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 1: it pretty recently. They can do it again. Utah is

1020
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 1: in a much better position giving up sixty plus to UCLA. Again,

1021
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:31,879
Speaker 1: that's a take. I don't see that.

1022
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 2: Lincoln Riley will need three plus years to win.

1023
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 1: The Pac twelve with USC. I think he can win it,

1024
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 1: not this year, but in two years. I think he

1025
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:46,240
Speaker 1: can take can take it in two years. The question

1026
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:48,439
Speaker 1: to me about USC, and this isn't really a take

1027
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:52,760
Speaker 1: question necessarily or take reaction, is is there a team

1028
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 1: that has won a major conference and I know that

1029
00:56:56,719 --> 00:57:00,359
Speaker 1: you know the portal logistics are pretty new, and how

1030
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:02,840
Speaker 1: quickly you can overhaul things with the portal because of

1031
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:06,320
Speaker 1: the transfer rules. Has there been a team that has

1032
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 1: fully overhauled the roster and it just worked out like

1033
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:13,919
Speaker 1: a lot of the teams who have succeeded and won

1034
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 1: a conference with the aid of the portal have done

1035
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 1: so just kind of plugin holes, right. Not necessarily we

1036
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 1: brought in twenty three guys.

1037
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, we pulled the West seventeen recruited all he's a Baptist.

1038
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 1: I just think there's a certain amount of continuity and

1039
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 1: understanding of coaches and scheme and rhythms of a program

1040
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 1: needed that this definitely feels like USC is just trying

1041
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 1: to tread water for year one as they bring in

1042
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 1: the more homegrown talent. I just don't know when the

1043
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 1: offensive and defensive linemen and linebackers show up. That's the

1044
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 1: issue for me. But it's PAC twelve. I don't know.

1045
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 1: I still think USC can win a bunch of games

1046
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 1: even if we got if it's sort of a transient roster.

1047
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,479
Speaker 2: Here you go this one speaking of Old Miss from

1048
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 2: b Gibbons on Instagram. Luke Altmeyer will beat out Jackson

1049
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 2: Dart for the Old Miss job and is the better quarterback.

1050
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 1: That is intriguing. That's intriguing to me. It is a take.

1051
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 1: There is.

1052
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 2: There is an assumption that Jackson Dart is going to

1053
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 2: be the guy. But like if you've read anything on

1054
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 2: Old Miss, first off, Jackson Dart did not look good

1055
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 2: at the spring game, which is fine, it's a spring game, right,

1056
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 2: But there's a lot out there to support this this

1057
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 2: take that Luke Altmeyer might be the better of the two.

1058
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 1: Sure, Jackson Dart was a true freshman last year, played

1059
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 1: the majority of his time after he got hurt. He

1060
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 1: had a good game against Wazoo when he was pressed

1061
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 1: into duty when Keaton Slovas got hurt. Loses to Arizona State, UCLA,

1062
00:58:57,200 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 1: b y U and Cal had kind of down games

1063
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 1: against ASU and UCLA, and wasn't especially electric against BYU

1064
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 1: or Cal. All in losses. Beat Arizona a very bad

1065
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 1: Arizona team, but wasn't especially great down field. So the

1066
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 1: Jackson dart experience is one of projection that here's this

1067
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 1: guy who came on late I believe as a high

1068
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 1: school senior, was good enough to win the number two

1069
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 1: job at USC as a freshman, made some plays and

1070
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 1: was just a victim of a pretty terrible circumstance with

1071
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 1: Clay Helton will they won't they? And then they get

1072
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 1: rid of them pretty early on. And certainly Dante Williams

1073
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:43,920
Speaker 1: was not the guy to be a head coach at USC,

1074
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 1: so there was a definite circumstance of USC was just

1075
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 1: not bringing anything anywhere near enough to win even games

1076
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 1: against down team.

1077
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:56,919
Speaker 2: Oh man, Yeah, these are high times for Jackson Dart.

1078
00:59:57,000 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 2: Man gets the ride over to Old miss with his

1079
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 2: obsession for Anakin Skywalker as it were, Sure, we'll bei

1080
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:08,480
Speaker 2: Wan Kenobi now on Disney Plus.

1081
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:11,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, the appeal of Jackson Dart is in squarely in

1082
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 1: the theoretical. In theory, he looks like he could be this,

1083
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 1: But I don't know if the attention he got in

1084
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 1: the portal. Obviously, any quarterback with that kind of potential

1085
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 1: is gonna get attention in the portal. But yeah, what

1086
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:29,919
Speaker 1: exactly has he done exactly to sort of fully lock

1087
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 1: him in to the starting role here, whereas Luke Altmeyer

1088
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 1: has more time in the system, more time with Lane Kiff,

1089
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 1: and they have a better concept of who he is

1090
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:38,800
Speaker 1: at this point. So yeah, I think there's a good

1091
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 1: amount of zest to that, just because of the degree

1092
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:44,240
Speaker 1: to which ole Miss attacked the portal for a quarterback,

1093
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:49,320
Speaker 1: because they that's the thing if if Lane Kiffin knows

1094
01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:52,960
Speaker 1: what he has in Luke Altmeyer, how aggressive is he

1095
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 1: going after a top flight quarterback? Now it could be

1096
01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 1: that Lane Kiffin also feels like Jackson Dart is a

1097
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:02,560
Speaker 1: project and gives them depth or whatever, like why wouldn't you,

1098
01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 1: you know, go after the best possible quarterbacks in the portal?

1099
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 1: But on that other hand, it's if Luke Altmeyer was

1100
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:13,760
Speaker 1: a sure thing, like why would you risk turning him

1101
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:17,040
Speaker 1: off by bringing in a high profile quarterback transfer? Yeah,

1102
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:19,200
Speaker 1: so all right, there's a good amount of SS there.

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01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:20,880
Speaker 1: Sure some other ones here.

1104
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 2: You are keen to point out the folks who show

1105
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 2: their work Jimmy on Twitter. Kansas head coach Lance Leipold, Yeah,

1106
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:30,920
Speaker 2: is going to be the head coach at Nebraska in

1107
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three former Nebraska assistant ties to the quote

1108
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:37,600
Speaker 2: good old days. Already right down the road, will run

1109
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:39,960
Speaker 2: an offense the fans like and has a history of winning.

1110
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 1: Thank you, Jimmy, thank you.

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01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, going the extra mile here, that's got some zest

1112
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:44,440
Speaker 2: to it and I like it.

1113
01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, a number of dominoes need to happen. So that's

1114
01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:53,520
Speaker 1: what Kansas being unexpectedly good within the context of Kansas

1115
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 1: Nebraska finally becoming fed up enough with Scott Frost to

1116
01:01:57,200 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 1: say that they're moving on and and other high Because

1117
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 1: Lance Leiphold is still not a high profile name as

1118
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:07,959
Speaker 1: much as he seems like he is to dorks like us,

1119
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 1: they would have to whiff on a couple of other

1120
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:16,560
Speaker 1: names that they think they could get after getting rid

1121
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:19,960
Speaker 1: of Scott Frost. So good amount as asked, good amount.

1122
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:23,480
Speaker 1: It would also, it's leaving after two years, which we've

1123
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 1: seen happen. Doesn't happen often? Yeah, what happens if Kaylen

1124
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:30,000
Speaker 1: de Bor wins nine games at Washington and the Raska

1125
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:31,439
Speaker 1: job opens up? Watch out?

1126
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:33,680
Speaker 2: All right, here we go, here we go, plugging our

1127
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 2: way through this. What else do we got here? Eric

1128
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 2: on Twitter, Oh my gosh, Spencer Rattler in South Carolina

1129
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 2: finish second in the SEC East behind Georgia. Look, I

1130
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 2: hate to be the bearer of bad news.

1131
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:51,440
Speaker 1: Eric with a K. Yeah. South Carolina's schedule.

1132
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:58,440
Speaker 2: Is brutal, brutal, brutal here at Arkansas home against Georgia

1133
01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 2: at Kentucky, Texas A and m at Florida Tennessee Clemson,

1134
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:07,360
Speaker 2: those three to close out the season. Right, there is

1135
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:10,440
Speaker 2: no chance in hell they are finishing second in the

1136
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:14,960
Speaker 2: SEC East unless all hell breaks loose and somehow Spencer

1137
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:22,479
Speaker 2: Ratler is you know, just otherworldly Heisman caliber. I don't

1138
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 2: see it. I would be a great story. I'm a

1139
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:28,600
Speaker 2: Shane Beemer fan. But there's a lot of zest on

1140
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:28,960
Speaker 2: that one.

1141
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:37,440
Speaker 1: Hmm, Okay, there's zest. There is for sure zest and

1142
01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:40,360
Speaker 1: you definitely need to talk yourself into a few different

1143
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:47,280
Speaker 1: things happening. I think there's a ted Lasso type quality

1144
01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:52,720
Speaker 1: to Shane Beemer that, oh no, if they win something

1145
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:55,600
Speaker 1: early and there is what is what is he right

1146
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:57,160
Speaker 1: above the doorway?

1147
01:03:57,280 --> 01:04:02,040
Speaker 2: Believe, believe, believe, fully believe. Who do they have early?

1148
01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 2: I know they have Georgia early, Arkansas early. I think

1149
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 2: they have Georgia state Week one at Arkansas week two,

1150
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:10,040
Speaker 2: Georgia week three.

1151
01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 1: And is Georgia in any sort of advantageous situation for

1152
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:19,440
Speaker 1: South Carolina? Like, does Georgia have somebody before that game?

1153
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:22,680
Speaker 2: Georgia's got your Oregon Ducks week one neutral? See right,

1154
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:26,120
Speaker 2: the week before Carolina it's Sanford and the week after

1155
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:29,280
Speaker 2: it's Kent State. Right now they're on the road in

1156
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:32,360
Speaker 2: South Carolina. There'll be a little bit of a sandstorm

1157
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:35,440
Speaker 2: going on there, Williams Bryce, but otherwise.

1158
01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:41,080
Speaker 1: No, Okay, So let's just say Spencer Rattler at his

1159
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:47,920
Speaker 1: best is a Power five conference winning quarterback right correct.

1160
01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:52,040
Speaker 1: One with Oklahoma, I believe right, Oklahoma beat I was

1161
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 1: staying the Big twelve champions game. I'm not mistakes pulled

1162
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:56,720
Speaker 1: it out largely because of the defense. But Spencer Ratler

1163
01:04:56,720 --> 01:05:03,760
Speaker 1: made place. If he returns to form, defense improves and

1164
01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 1: there is that Ted Lasso like belief and they ride

1165
01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 1: that excitement against Fat Elvis Stetson Bennett in week two

1166
01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:16,760
Speaker 1: or three or whatever. I'm just saying, Fat Elvis, Oh no,

1167
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:21,560
Speaker 1: there's gonna be No. I'm saying, wax your boards and

1168
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:26,240
Speaker 1: get ready for the cockwave. That's all I'm saying. Ted

1169
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 1: lasso in Columbia, South Carolina. Oh my gosh, because okay,

1170
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:34,120
Speaker 1: all it takes is the Georgia win, and I guess

1171
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:36,640
Speaker 1: not losing to anybody else, and you know, having the

1172
01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:40,960
Speaker 1: tiebreakers in the East, New Florida, Kentucky new offensive coordinator,

1173
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 1: and you believe will Levis returns to becoming will Levis.

1174
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:51,320
Speaker 1: Apparently Tennessee always prone to an implosion for whatever reason.

1175
01:05:54,560 --> 01:06:00,000
Speaker 1: It's zesty. There's a lot of that, dorito. But who's

1176
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:04,960
Speaker 1: said this, Jimmy Eric with Eric, Welcome to the ranch. Yeah, welcome.

1177
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:07,840
Speaker 1: I think you're getting an invite to the reading room.

1178
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:10,720
Speaker 1: He's getting the invite before I am. Damn it all right, Yeah,

1179
01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:13,480
Speaker 1: you're manning the grill. Everything's happening with you on the ranch.

1180
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:17,120
Speaker 1: Other ones here. The two folks took to both Twitter

1181
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:19,400
Speaker 1: and Instagram because they wanted to get this through to us.

1182
01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:23,160
Speaker 1: Nicholas feels rather strongly about a ten and two Virginia

1183
01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:27,160
Speaker 1: and mister Mikey says that Arkansas is going to win

1184
01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:30,160
Speaker 1: the SEC West in twenty twenty two thanks to kJ Jefferson.

1185
01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:34,120
Speaker 1: I love kJ Jefferson. I don't like Arkansas's.

1186
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:37,760
Speaker 2: Path through the SEC West, which could be said about

1187
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:40,880
Speaker 2: quite literally anybody in the SEC West. We did talk

1188
01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:45,040
Speaker 2: about their schedule though, as it relates to just the

1189
01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:49,080
Speaker 2: SEC as a whole, and with that in mind, it's

1190
01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:53,160
Speaker 2: not easy, but about as good of splits as you

1191
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:57,120
Speaker 2: could expect if you were Arkansas. They've got Texas A

1192
01:06:57,120 --> 01:07:00,000
Speaker 2: and m excuse me, neutral site game at Arkansas. They've

1193
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:05,920
Speaker 2: got Bama at home. Their non conference games are I

1194
01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:09,400
Speaker 2: think of interest, as in, they won't be glossed over

1195
01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:13,880
Speaker 2: by the media. Game against Cincinnati week one is interesting.

1196
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:18,080
Speaker 2: A road tilt before a bye in week seven against

1197
01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:22,960
Speaker 2: BYU is interesting. It's not an easy slate, but if

1198
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:25,880
Speaker 2: you're kJ Jefferson, if you're Arkansas, I think just the

1199
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Speaker 2: way it breaks down, that's that's at least intriguing to me.

1200
01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:31,320
Speaker 2: So winning the SEC West requires a lot of other

1201
01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:31,960
Speaker 2: dominoes to.

1202
01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:32,400
Speaker 1: Fall, but.

1203
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:35,640
Speaker 2: It's at least set up about as well as it

1204
01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:38,200
Speaker 2: could for Arkansas.

1205
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:43,160
Speaker 1: So here's what I'll say. The case for Arkansas winning

1206
01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:47,280
Speaker 1: the West is zesty. I hear you, Yeah, I hear you.

1207
01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:52,120
Speaker 1: But if Arkansas in twenty twenty two, the Hogs are

1208
01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:56,880
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one esque, this is what it means for them.

1209
01:07:57,520 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 1: It means starting out four and oh with a dominant

1210
01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:05,080
Speaker 1: especially on defense, win over A and M. Right, you

1211
01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:07,040
Speaker 1: said that long. I think it was Isaiah Speller broke

1212
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:09,200
Speaker 1: it up through the broke it off through the middle

1213
01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:13,800
Speaker 1: of the field, losing terribly to Georgia, though if there

1214
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:15,960
Speaker 1: are any sort of tie breakers, it doesn't matter. In

1215
01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:21,920
Speaker 1: the West, barely losing to ole Miss that it's just

1216
01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:23,880
Speaker 1: going one away or the other. They lose fifty two

1217
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:25,680
Speaker 1: to fifty one to ole Miss, so let's say they

1218
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:27,719
Speaker 1: are twenty twenty one esque and they win that game.

1219
01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 1: That ole Miss does not have a sure thing NFL

1220
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:33,320
Speaker 1: caliber quarterback under center, so they beat ole Miss after

1221
01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:37,479
Speaker 1: losing by one, scoring fifty plus. They lost to Auburn

1222
01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:42,880
Speaker 1: decisively last year, but Auburn's worse clearly worse than they

1223
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:46,920
Speaker 1: were last year, so that becomes winnable. I think that

1224
01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:49,360
Speaker 1: game is at Auburn, though, so we'll see. They beat

1225
01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:54,599
Speaker 1: Mississippi State, they beat LSU, they were extremely competitive against Alabama,

1226
01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:57,479
Speaker 1: and that game is in tuscle Loosia. This year, they

1227
01:08:57,479 --> 01:09:02,679
Speaker 1: beat Miszoo and here we are, so it's a few

1228
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:07,840
Speaker 1: gusts of wind away from winning the West. That kJ

1229
01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:10,680
Speaker 1: Jefferson will be improved. Alabama will still be very, very

1230
01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:17,040
Speaker 1: good games in Fayideville this year. I don't know it's zesty,

1231
01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:22,479
Speaker 1: but I don't know. Through kJ Jefferson all things are possible.

1232
01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:25,360
Speaker 1: To paraphrase, Did I just compare kJ Jefferson to Jesus Christ?

1233
01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:30,519
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I did. You can just the ceiling is

1234
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:33,639
Speaker 1: especially high when you have an All American caliber quarterback.

1235
01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:35,280
Speaker 1: All right, right?

1236
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:37,800
Speaker 2: Do you want to pick two or three more off

1237
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:39,639
Speaker 2: the vine here? We're getting a little long in the tooth.

1238
01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:45,720
Speaker 1: I don't care what are we doing. But but bah bah

1239
01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:48,559
Speaker 1: bah Jim Harbo won't win another Big Ten championship with Michigan.

1240
01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:50,400
Speaker 1: Oh that's spicy?

1241
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:52,640
Speaker 2: Is like that?

1242
01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:55,960
Speaker 1: You think the conventional wisdom is that he'll definitely win

1243
01:09:56,680 --> 01:09:59,000
Speaker 1: another Big Ten chame. I don't think that's conventional wisdom.

1244
01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:00,519
Speaker 1: I just like I. I just like that.

1245
01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:03,200
Speaker 2: There is shade being thrown here from the real sugar

1246
01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:04,040
Speaker 2: Shade in Twitter.

1247
01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:08,400
Speaker 1: That's shade. But is it zest to say a man

1248
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:11,840
Speaker 1: who's only won at once will continue to lose it

1249
01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:12,559
Speaker 1: most of the time?

1250
01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:17,040
Speaker 2: The real Sugar Shane is welcome to help me in

1251
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:20,080
Speaker 2: the stables, as I'm not allowed at the campfire with

1252
01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:21,840
Speaker 2: my lukewarm takes.

1253
01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:23,799
Speaker 1: But he's welcome.

1254
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:25,000
Speaker 2: I like that. I like that.

1255
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:28,640
Speaker 1: Warner here we go. Oh yeah, hit me with this one.

1256
01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:30,880
Speaker 2: I like this, says Sam Hartman will be the top

1257
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:33,719
Speaker 2: quarterback in the ACC over all the others getting attention

1258
01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:38,479
Speaker 2: like Brendan Armstrong, filed Jerkovic, TVD, Tyler Van Dyke, and

1259
01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:41,560
Speaker 2: Devin Leary. I could see that happening. I don't know

1260
01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:44,240
Speaker 2: how spicy that is. But one thing we'll say about

1261
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:46,160
Speaker 2: the ACC, and we mentioned this when we went through

1262
01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:50,080
Speaker 2: some of our preview to the preview content about the ACC.

1263
01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:54,439
Speaker 2: Decent quarterback conference, some decent quarterbacks that need to be

1264
01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:56,479
Speaker 2: on your radar going into the twenty two season.

1265
01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:01,840
Speaker 1: Agree, who is the second quarterback after Kenny Pickett in

1266
01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:05,360
Speaker 1: the ACC last year? Statistically last year in twenty twenty

1267
01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:09,479
Speaker 1: one okay, against ACC teams, Kenny Pickett was fourth in

1268
01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:15,639
Speaker 1: the conference in quarterback rating and Sam Hartman was tenth

1269
01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:19,439
Speaker 1: last year. Yep, okay, so that would take somewhat of

1270
01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:21,479
Speaker 1: a jump. He was the problem with Sam Hartman is

1271
01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:27,000
Speaker 1: he threw fourteen picks last year. He threw it more

1272
01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:30,000
Speaker 1: than I think anybody else. Well, no, Brendan Armstrong threw

1273
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:33,439
Speaker 1: it more yards per attempt. Sam Hartman tenth as well.

1274
01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:36,840
Speaker 1: That's an issue, so he would need a major jump

1275
01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:39,880
Speaker 1: up in both of those categories to be the clear best.

1276
01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:43,240
Speaker 1: To me, Malie Hunningham finished number one in rating and

1277
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:46,559
Speaker 1: yards per attempt. I think we again also Malite Cunningham,

1278
01:11:47,200 --> 01:11:49,040
Speaker 1: so this was it Warner.

1279
01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:53,720
Speaker 2: Warner doesn't even mention Malite Hunningham, not one name, but two.

1280
01:11:54,560 --> 01:12:03,000
Speaker 1: McHale. It's zesty. I admire the grit and the determination

1281
01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:06,759
Speaker 1: from Warner with this take. Don't see it happening myself,

1282
01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:12,400
Speaker 1: but sure there's a universe he does have.

1283
01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:17,840
Speaker 2: He does have both his top receiver in at Perry

1284
01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:20,840
Speaker 2: and Taylor more in back from a year.

1285
01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:23,200
Speaker 1: We lost somebody, didn't he last year to Corey Roberson

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Speaker 1: Y Yeah, yeah, okay, any other takes the last one

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Speaker 1: he Dan Klobacar because he mentions you.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why he's mentioning me. He's saying he's

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Speaker 2: saying that Purdue is going to lose to Wisconsin for

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Speaker 2: the sixteenth straight time, but for some reason, Ty's going

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Speaker 2: to ignore that and he's going to pick the Boilers

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Speaker 2: to beat the Badgers.

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Speaker 1: I don't.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, did I do that last year? I may, I

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Speaker 2: don't remember it. Great, definitely, here's the one that I

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Speaker 2: want to pick off the vine. Here from another trusted

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Speaker 2: verball er, Chaka on Twitter says that Kentucky will play

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Speaker 2: Alabama in the SEC title game and Will Levis will

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Speaker 2: be in New York as a Heisman finalist. Now here's

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Speaker 2: what's interesting about this. Here's what's interesting about In any

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Speaker 2: other universe, will Levis being in New York as a

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01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:07,960
Speaker 2: Heisman finost would be the hot take here. But because

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01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:10,920
Speaker 2: that's already gotten so much play from some of the

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Speaker 2: draft knicks out there who have convinced us, convinced themselves

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Speaker 2: that Will Levis is a first round talent, the hot

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01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:19,720
Speaker 2: take here is actually that Kentucky is going to be

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Speaker 2: in Alabama playing for the SEC title game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's somewhat hot just because George is there. I mean,

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Speaker 1: how far away was Kentucky from other than the Georgia loss?

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Speaker 1: Whut you is the second best team in the East

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Speaker 1: last year?

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Speaker 2: End of the season, maybe Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: Maybe Kentucky loses three straight. They lose the shootout to Tennessee,

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Speaker 1: they lose to Mississippi State, and didn't have really a

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Speaker 1: chance in hell, Georgia was competitive for a minute and

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01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:03,000
Speaker 1: they but it was not. That was the closest win

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Speaker 1: I think Georgia in the seventeen points there. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: don't know, man. If will Levis is is what they

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Speaker 1: say he is. Where's that game? The game is in Lexington?

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Speaker 1: This year game is in Lexington. Yeah, and it's in

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Speaker 1: a disvent disadvantageous situation for Georgia. Right, it's back to

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Speaker 1: back with another road game. I think in Starkville, that

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Speaker 1: is correct.

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Speaker 2: Yep, it is Starkville then Kentucky before Georgia Tech. Right, Okay, so.

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01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:38,280
Speaker 1: Some sort of weird body blow theory situation. Pat Elvis,

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Speaker 1: that's god. I love that. That's so good. Really, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna roll with that all year. Yeah, just enjoying the

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Speaker 1: twilight of his career. I'm cool with it, man, I'm

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Speaker 1: cool with it. Is that listen, this is why last

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Speaker 1: year's Georgia squad was capital s special, an all time

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01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:07,280
Speaker 1: defense with all time pieces, and this year's gonna be

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01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:11,080
Speaker 1: excellent as well, but not in that lightning in a

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01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:15,880
Speaker 1: bottle fashion. And it's tough to bring people back and

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Speaker 1: maintain that level of play. It's tough to keep everybody

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Speaker 1: as energized and focused when they're already at the mountaintop.

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Speaker 1: That's why what Alabama has done these past fourteen years

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Speaker 1: or whatever is so special. We've seen Kirby Smart Georgia

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01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:37,559
Speaker 1: teams lose dumbly, not a word is now seen them

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01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:42,320
Speaker 1: lose those games. We've seen Kirby Smart make wrong quarterback decisions.

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Speaker 1: We've seen them come out flat against lesser teams and

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Speaker 1: lose those games. So if we are taking the Kirby

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Speaker 1: Smart Georgia experience in its totality, they're capable of losing

1343
01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:59,760
Speaker 1: something stupid. So all of these people saying Florida wins

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01:15:59,800 --> 01:16:03,000
Speaker 1: the South, Carolina's you know, second in the East, Kentucky

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Speaker 1: wins the East. I think in a thousand simulations, ten

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01:16:09,640 --> 01:16:14,080
Speaker 1: thousand simulations, you're getting a handful. Yeah, I'm okay with it.

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Speaker 1: Good zest.

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Speaker 2: Also, final point on Kentucky, the schedule was very advantageous

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Speaker 2: on the show that we did on the show that Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah they could start, yeah, they could start seven and oh,

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01:16:28,720 --> 01:16:31,640
Speaker 2: there is definitely a real possibility of a ten or

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01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:35,200
Speaker 2: even an eleven win Kentucky because there aren't any crazy stretches.

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Speaker 2: Here are the teams that they do play maybe outside

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Speaker 2: of the Tennessee road tilt in week nine, which will

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01:16:40,760 --> 01:16:43,479
Speaker 2: be tough to close out the month of October. There's

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Speaker 2: plenty of questions about the other teams in the schedule.

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Speaker 2: Florida Week two a good time to catch Florida. It's

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Speaker 2: in the swamp, which is a tough place to play,

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01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:52,960
Speaker 2: very loud. But Florida is gonna be working through some stuff,

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01:16:53,360 --> 01:16:56,200
Speaker 2: right That's part of that opening tilt of two games

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Speaker 2: for the Gators. That's gonna be really tough to open

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01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:01,160
Speaker 2: up the month of October on the road at Old Miss.

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01:17:01,400 --> 01:17:03,120
Speaker 2: Old Miss is going to be working through some stuff.

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01:17:03,160 --> 01:17:05,400
Speaker 2: They've got a lot of roster turnover, new guys coming

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01:17:05,439 --> 01:17:08,840
Speaker 2: in from the portal South Carolina. South Carolina is going

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01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:11,599
Speaker 2: to be better, but the games in Lexington and South

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01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:13,840
Speaker 2: Carolina is still not all that great. You know where

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Speaker 2: I stay in Mississippi State the week after in week seven,

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Speaker 2: I think Mississippi State has some potential danger in them.

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Speaker 2: But nonetheless I'm not too enamored with Mike Leach at Tennessee.

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Speaker 2: To close out the month of October, I think is

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Speaker 2: the big one for Kentucky should be a tough game.

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01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:33,720
Speaker 2: But at Miszoo Vandy there's a Louisville game of course

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01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:36,519
Speaker 2: that close out the season the rivalry, and then of

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01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:40,040
Speaker 2: course Georgia in week twelve. So it's there for Kentucky

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01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:42,120
Speaker 2: if Will Levis can be the Will Levis that some

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Speaker 2: folks have thought.

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Speaker 1: Are you? This is my final question? Are you an

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Speaker 1: Elvis guy? Isn't there a movie coming out? Like a

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Speaker 1: Baz Lureman movie? Am I had? Elvis guy?

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Speaker 2: No, I'm not an Elvis guy.

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Speaker 1: Well, you are a fan. You're a fan of certain

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01:17:57,320 --> 01:18:00,360
Speaker 1: musicians and movies, and like some people are like super

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Speaker 1: into Elvis, somewhere into the Beatles or led Zeppelin or

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Speaker 1: Stones whatever.

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Speaker 2: No, no, not.

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Speaker 1: There is some Elvis lore that I'm super into, like

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Speaker 1: the Sun record, Sam Phillips, like the old Memphis, like

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Speaker 1: record labeling, the I don't celebrate his catalog. I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: go that far, but I like Elvis.

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Speaker 2: I have nothing against Elvis, and I like Elvis stories.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. More than I like Elvis's music. I like a

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Speaker 1: good transition into acting poorly that you're so famous that

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Speaker 1: you're gonna start becoming a movie star, because that's what

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01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:49,360
Speaker 1: happens when you do other things like we've seen it,

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Speaker 1: I mean it still happens right where Like the Rock

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01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:54,639
Speaker 1: is so famous. I don't know that the Rock cannect.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that he can do any of the

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Speaker 1: stuff that he purports to be able to do. But

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Speaker 1: I like that he became so big in a tangential field.

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01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:05,479
Speaker 1: But we're like, we gotta put him in a movie

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01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:10,240
Speaker 1: about space mountain or whatever. I can appreciate that part

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01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:12,360
Speaker 1: of his career as well, like a trend like the

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01:19:12,439 --> 01:19:16,280
Speaker 1: Blue hawaiis like, I like, it's a fascinating arc. So

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01:19:17,160 --> 01:19:19,600
Speaker 1: the Elvis story to me, I'm a huge fan of

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01:19:20,200 --> 01:19:23,439
Speaker 1: his catalog. It's fine to me, Yeah, it's fine.

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Speaker 2: A lot of compressors do in the heavy lifting on

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Speaker 2: those volts.

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Speaker 1: Yah, yeah for sure. Just throwing that that's it.

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