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Speaker 1: Hey, it's Eli Sussman here, founder of Fish on First

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Speaker 1: teeing up this interview between our own Noah Berger and

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Speaker 1: left hander Devin Smeltzer. Smeltzer four separate stints on the

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Speaker 1: Marlins roster this year. The most recent one lasted maybe

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Speaker 1: a day and a half. In that brief window, Noah

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Speaker 1: made time to sit down with him and talk about

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Speaker 1: a wide ranging conversation, most of this not about baseball.

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Speaker 1: Even though Smeltzer was defaed again shortly after that cleared

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Speaker 1: waivers outright into the miners still in the Marlins organization.

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Speaker 1: I think you'll enjoy this even if he's not on

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Speaker 1: the active roster at this very moment. You can find

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Speaker 1: previous water Relief episodes right here on this podcast feed

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Speaker 1: if you haven't already rate and review the pod wherever

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Speaker 1: you get your podcasts. That's greatly appreciated. About further ado.

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Speaker 2: Enjoy Welcome everybody to the Water Relief podcast on the

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Speaker 2: Fish on First podcast network. This one was I've been

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Speaker 2: looking forward to for quite a while. If they finally

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Speaker 2: have Devon up in the majors long enough for me

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Speaker 2: to him on a podcast. My favorite thing about him

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Speaker 2: is his Twitter handle is Alca Smeltzer, which is really

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Speaker 2: funny with the name of this podcast. Water relaf is

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Speaker 2: plot plot fizz fizz, but water Relief it is. So

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Speaker 2: this might be the most fitting podcast I do all season.

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Speaker 2: I want to start off, Happy birthday. Thank you you

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Speaker 2: turning twenty twenty eight today. You were born on the

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Speaker 2: same day as San Jael Contra. Interesting as a feel

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Speaker 2: to be share a birthday with him.

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Speaker 3: Probably the wrong guy to share a birthday with the clubhouse,

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Speaker 3: but you're kind of joking about it in there, but

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Speaker 3: it's all good.

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Speaker 2: All right. So you were born in New Jersey.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 2: I grew up a Phillies fan. Yep. We'll get to

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Speaker 2: the whole thing with Chase Utley and all that. You

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Speaker 2: went tot GCU for a year, for a year. Where

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Speaker 2: else did you go?

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Speaker 3: Then transferred to San jack Juice?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's right there. I want to start with recency.

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Speaker 2: You just threw a no hitter, a seven inning no

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Speaker 2: hitter for the Jacksonville Jumbo Shrip, the first in their history.

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Speaker 2: Take me through that whole game, like the the emotions,

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Speaker 2: When did you realize what was going on? It was teammates, reaction,

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Speaker 2: your family, like take me through that whole thing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was kind of a running joke. Afterwards, I

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Speaker 3: realized in the second inning that I had no hits.

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Speaker 3: I haven't had the greatest year at Triple A. I

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Speaker 3: was like, damn I have I've let them no runs.

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Speaker 3: And I was like, oh, I let them no hits.

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Speaker 3: So then every inning I came in, I was like, damn,

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Speaker 3: And you know, Troby called an awesome game behind the plate,

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Speaker 3: and it's fun to celebrate. It's my first one in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you get called back up and you're

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Speaker 2: And I was watching this morning just to refresh my memory.

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Speaker 3: For the bladder of process. It was wrapped on my circoma.

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Speaker 2: When he was nine years old. And you won the battle,

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Speaker 2: won the war, And first off, congratulations on that. We

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Speaker 2: It's so just for me to you just i'd be

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it definitely made me grow up quick, put life

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Speaker 2: So, how much has baseball helped you through the the

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Speaker 2: you kind of explain how that kind of kept you going?

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Speaker 2: So on the outside looking in, we always we see

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Speaker 3: So the my whole thing is, you know, I'm not

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Speaker 2: So this month is a child and cancer. When this

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Speaker 2: Do you ever feel, I don't want to say, like

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Speaker 3: Definitely. I mean I look back at twenty twenty when

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Speaker 2: questions before we wrap up here. Who's your funniest teammate

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Speaker 2: The team didn't playoff stretch now or playoff push now

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Speaker 3: Well, I've been here a day since the push and

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Speaker 2: Being that next man up. How has it been this season?

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Speaker 2: I'll continue with the rabbit fire because I remember other

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Speaker 3: Least favorite ballpark. I really enjoyed the history part of Oakland,

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Speaker 2: It's your favorite song, favorite song?

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Speaker 2: Except the past, all the cities you've played in in

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Speaker 2: What's the weirdest thing you've had to autograph? Keep it PG?

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Speaker 3: One thing that people don't know that's a stump.

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Speaker 2: Stump hobby that you that you have tease of talent.

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Speaker 3: My wife and I are really really big into fishing.

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Speaker 3: We've gone through a bunch of boats, but we recently

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Speaker 2: All right, thank you so much for doing this. Any

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Speaker 2: shout outs, friends, shout outs, anything. The floor is yours.

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Speaker 3: I think we're good. Uh, glad to be back and

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Speaker 2: All right, thank you so much for coming on the podcast.

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Speaker 2: It's been the water relief podcast on the Fish on

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Speaker 2: his podcast network. Have a great day, everybody.

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Speaker 3: Thank you. M Rhaya