Speaker 1: Are you leading? I? You want your way back home?
Speaker 2: Either way, we want to be there. Doesn't matter how
Speaker 2: much baggage you claim and give us time and a
Speaker 2: terminol and gay a.
Speaker 1: We want to send you off inside. We wanna welcome
Speaker 1: you back home. Tell us all about it. We scared her?
Speaker 1: Was it fine?
Speaker 2: Malborn?
Speaker 1: Do you need to ride? Do you need to ride?
Speaker 1: Do you need to ride? Do your need you ride?
Speaker 3: Ride?
Speaker 2: Do you need.
Speaker 3: With Karen and Chris? Welcome to Do you need to ride?
Speaker 1: This is Chris Fairbanks and this is Karen Tilgareff.
Speaker 3: Hello, my friend Karen.
Speaker 1: Hello Chris, how are you?
Speaker 4: Did you do anything today prior to this recording? I
Speaker 4: would like just business things, business things.
Speaker 2: Zoom calls, you know, nothing really that exciting or fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I g but thank you for asking.
Speaker 4: Of course, you know I always want to give you
Speaker 4: the chance before I, you know, steamroll it with my
Speaker 4: possible snoozefest of a story. But I think it's actually
Speaker 4: a good one.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 2: I think this one's good because I just saw it
Speaker 2: on Twitter. The Is it about the people sending you
Speaker 2: pictures from your old newspaper?
Speaker 3: No? But that's something.
Speaker 4: At least there's finally proof that they used to put
Speaker 4: my home address. Yes, everything a kidnapper would need and
Speaker 4: the prime kidnapping time of the early eighties.
Speaker 2: Just so everyone, if you haven't heard, which I feel
Speaker 2: like we've talked about this one hundred times, but in
Speaker 2: his hometown newspaper as a child in Missoula, Montana many
Speaker 2: time times, multiple times, probably under the age of twelve,
Speaker 2: and several times from his memory when he would talk
Speaker 2: about it, his full name would be in the newspaper
Speaker 2: and his address and his parents' names. And somebody actually
Speaker 2: found these pictures and like a newspaper, like, what's the
Speaker 2: word for it, clipping?
Speaker 1: No, No, the online Library.
Speaker 4: Of Newspapers Crowfiche, I think, yeah, somehow they found it
Speaker 4: and some digitized what I could not find because I
Speaker 4: was told by the librarian that I would be searching
Speaker 4: for weeks if all I knew was it was nineteen eighty.
Speaker 4: So I was like, that's the juice thing worth the squeeze, right,
Speaker 4: But someone.
Speaker 1: But a listener did it right? Did it instead?
Speaker 4: And I thought at this point I thought I'd just
Speaker 4: been making up that. I'm like, maybe I was wrong,
Speaker 4: Maybe my address wasn't put in there, but it's there,
Speaker 4: and it's amazing that I'm here today.
Speaker 1: It's amazing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, great job.
Speaker 2: But also this listener found four items from the newspaper.
Speaker 2: One was a picture of Chris as like a twelve
Speaker 2: year old or a ten year old reading to an
Speaker 2: old lady at an old lady's home.
Speaker 3: I forgot about that one.
Speaker 2: Amazing and very touching. There was a poem that Chris
Speaker 2: wrote that was really good, a lot of mentions of blood. Yes,
Speaker 2: and I thought, I was it's about the color red.
Speaker 1: It's about the color red.
Speaker 4: I just kept reminding the reader, blood is red. Hey,
Speaker 4: it's what we're made of.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Then's two pieces of art, one a little more
Speaker 2: on the juvenile side, and then one where you won
Speaker 2: an art contest. And it was an incredibly realistic drawing
Speaker 2: of some.
Speaker 3: Dog, a dog with a Santa hat.
Speaker 1: Precious.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it was nice to see it again.
Speaker 4: I feel like as a kid because I'm confronted about
Speaker 4: my achievements because I'm looking at our guest today and
Speaker 4: everything she's done, and I was about to cancel. I
Speaker 4: was asked to sing with my friends in a punk band,
Speaker 4: and there's a lot of songs, and it's one show,
Speaker 4: and I have to learn all these songs, and it's
Speaker 4: going to be.
Speaker 3: A lot of work.
Speaker 4: And I was about to bow out or just say, hey,
Speaker 4: I'll do three or four of these songs. Someone else
Speaker 4: can sing the other one. But now I want to
Speaker 4: do it. Now I'm taking the challenge because our guest
Speaker 4: today has got her foot in so many doors, and
Speaker 4: one of them is just a singer in an indie
Speaker 4: rock band just as a side thing, and I'm very impressed.
Speaker 3: And I just was listening. It's very good, like I
Speaker 3: would say alt country nice.
Speaker 4: And so anyway, I'm already influence by today's guest. I'm
Speaker 4: going to go through with this possibly embarrassing punk rock concert.
Speaker 4: Great all songs that I could barely annunciate quickly enough
Speaker 4: to keep, like Dead Kennedy's Buzzcocks, songs like that that
Speaker 4: I am not that familiar with. But I'm going to
Speaker 4: do it because Tawny has inspired me.
Speaker 2: Well, Chris, you do it every time you start the intro,
Speaker 2: and then you just stop doing the I know is
Speaker 2: do the intro.
Speaker 4: Okay, Well, speaking of today's guest, we might as well
Speaker 4: let her in.
Speaker 1: Because that's who we were actually talking about.
Speaker 3: Clubs in colleges. No, I'm kidding. She is a well
Speaker 3: known actor.
Speaker 4: She's in a lot of shows that I love. She's
Speaker 4: in a band that I mentioned called Four Lost Souls.
Speaker 4: She's got multiple podcasts, she's a former rodeo champion. Landed
Speaker 4: her now for our guest today, Tawny Knewsome, Thank you.
Speaker 5: I do want to set the record straight. I am
Speaker 5: a former Rodeo Future Champion. That was the ribbon that
Speaker 5: they gave us when we didn't have fast enough times
Speaker 5: to place.
Speaker 1: They called us future champions.
Speaker 3: Oh it like that.
Speaker 2: I was kind of like everybody participated participation trophy.
Speaker 1: Well, hey, you can't.
Speaker 5: You can't win if you don't play, And I consider
Speaker 5: myself a winner just for showing up.
Speaker 4: Okay, do you ever wonder what your life would be
Speaker 4: like if you just contigue, You didn't start, You didn't
Speaker 4: go to Chicago and start doing improv, you stuck with rodeo.
Speaker 3: Do you ever have dreams.
Speaker 4: About man where you could have taken the rodeo circuit.
Speaker 5: I think I would have dominated and been the most
Speaker 5: toxic bit you've ever met. Yes, can you imagine me
Speaker 5: like just whatever the fuck I am. Can you imagine
Speaker 5: that in rodeo, I would have made it my mission
Speaker 5: to be the best, and I would be horrible as
Speaker 5: a person.
Speaker 2: Well, because there is that kind there's that piece of rodeo.
Speaker 2: I grew up a tiny bit around it because I
Speaker 2: was like in four h and stuff, and we did
Speaker 2: a lot of stuff at like the county Fair, and
Speaker 2: so we saw there was a lot of trick writers
Speaker 2: that you'd go to see with your family at night.
Speaker 2: And it was like I wanted to be a barrel
Speaker 2: racer between the ages of like eight and I didn't
Speaker 2: say fifteen. I mean that seemed to be amazing. And
Speaker 2: the thing about especially female rodeo stars or rodeo people
Speaker 2: that stood out is like there was a beauty queen aspect. Yeah,
Speaker 2: there was a serious, not even athletic aspect. It's a
Speaker 2: thing like you're controlling a wild animal while catching another
Speaker 2: wild animal. You're doing all of it with like perfectly
Speaker 2: quaft hair, and they's so it's so great to watch.
Speaker 2: In my opinion, back before I had any awareness about
Speaker 2: what was if the pets did or the animals did
Speaker 2: or did not like it, that wasn't really.
Speaker 1: A part of it.
Speaker 2: In the eighties, sure, and it just seemed so glamorous
Speaker 2: and like you would have to be evil.
Speaker 1: Oh your right to the.
Speaker 5: Top, because not only are you the beauty queen, but
Speaker 5: the horse is also the beauty queen, and they have
Speaker 5: to have perfectly quafft hair. I remember one event I did.
Speaker 5: I was doing like color Guard, which is like four
Speaker 5: we girls on horses and you have flags and you
Speaker 5: do a whole thing. And we had to paint our
Speaker 5: horses hooves and we all decided on the color and
Speaker 5: size of glitter that we were going to paint their hooves.
Speaker 5: And there's like a big discussion how sparkle.
Speaker 1: It was going to be.
Speaker 5: And I think that's ultimately what took me out of
Speaker 5: all of it, because I was like, wait, this doesn't
Speaker 5: feel like a fun, dusty sport in my backyard.
Speaker 1: This feels like a pageant and that is creepy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, a horse pageant. Oh yeah.
Speaker 4: And they get no say in what color their hooves
Speaker 4: are going to be.
Speaker 1: No, they have thoughts and feelings.
Speaker 3: And style, they have their they want to express themselves.
Speaker 1: Right, nobody asked the horse, ask the horse.
Speaker 4: I can see the power going as a rodeo person
Speaker 4: because you're also controlling a big, giant, muscular animal like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that power would go to my head.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I have one little jump rope that controls up fifteen
Speaker 5: hundred pounds beast, and I make it do whatever I
Speaker 5: want it to.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's insane. That's gonna make you a super villain.
Speaker 2: And those barrel racers, like they basically go around those
Speaker 2: barrels on a horse so close to the ground that
Speaker 2: it almost looks like motorcycle racing, where there the whole
Speaker 2: thing is tilted to the side Like that is a
Speaker 2: seriously difficult, dangerous, unbelievable, amazing thing to compete in.
Speaker 4: It's it's big, and as you round that barrel, you
Speaker 4: have to try to not be distracted by the clown
Speaker 4: cowboy that pops up, which is what I always wanted
Speaker 4: to do in the rodeo.
Speaker 5: I think we'd all right now, we'd all make great
Speaker 5: rodeo clowns. I think that's the only if I had
Speaker 5: to get back, gun to my head, had to get
Speaker 5: back into the biz, that's the only position I want.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I don't know.
Speaker 2: That's wouldn't it be the most I would rather be
Speaker 2: in the color guard, right, because then you just you're
Speaker 2: only holding onto that flag with one hand, right.
Speaker 5: Oh, no, you're doing choreography with the flag. Yeah, you
Speaker 5: gotta do and you gotta be in sync. And there's
Speaker 5: bitchy girls next to you who are mad. It's very
Speaker 5: like travel soccer meets like the most rescue dog mom
Speaker 5: energy of all. Like a horse is basically like the
Speaker 5: rescue list of rescue dogs. So it brings out that
Speaker 5: kind of person. It's it's a toxic world and I
Speaker 5: miss it. But I've found my own new toxic world
Speaker 5: and it's called comedy. So yeah, I feel much more
Speaker 5: at home.
Speaker 4: There comedy, and there's a little chance of who the
Speaker 4: do you know? With comedy you can't get gord.
Speaker 1: That's very true, well emotionally or.
Speaker 4: A competitive flag girl next to you, she might poke
Speaker 4: it with her stick, with her flag stick.
Speaker 1: With her flag called both they called verbal flagstick. Yeah, huh.
Speaker 4: I found the best your glamour shot from I maybe
Speaker 4: it's for color Guard, but you had the gold fringe.
Speaker 4: It's like, oh my goodness, the most perfect photo. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I did a little You're going at glamour. It is
Speaker 4: a oh it's foggy on the edges. It's a beautiful.
Speaker 4: It's very everything a glamour shot needs.
Speaker 1: What tona can?
Speaker 2: I just ask you, how did you get into rodeo? Like,
Speaker 2: where are you from? And what is that?
Speaker 1: What led you?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I grew up in Vaccaville, California, which is you know
Speaker 5: for Pedaluma.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know you are moments away. Oh man.
Speaker 5: We wanted to be as cool as Pedaluma. We wanted
Speaker 5: to be like foggy and mysterious. We were just hot,
Speaker 5: and we had an onion festival, so it.
Speaker 2: Was not.
Speaker 3: Just every day onions.
Speaker 1: Just so many onions.
Speaker 5: We did have an outlet mall No, but so Vacaval's
Speaker 5: kind of like a little like Vacco's a little country,
Speaker 5: even though it's close to the Bay Area. It's very
Speaker 5: like conservative, it's very it's very horsey. So there was
Speaker 5: just like horseshit to be doing. My mom like made
Speaker 5: a friend.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 5: I feel like we were in that phase of like
Speaker 5: single mom and me, Like she was like looking for
Speaker 5: hobbies all the time. So it was like karate for
Speaker 5: ten minutes, clarinet for a second. Maybe we're really into
Speaker 5: aquariums right now? Okay, now horses and I just started
Speaker 5: taking lessons and you know, we were what I like
Speaker 5: to call horse poor, which means you always kind of
Speaker 5: like had this community of people who were trading animals
Speaker 5: around based on who could afford to feed them at
Speaker 5: the time.
Speaker 1: So we weren't really like buying a lot of like horses.
Speaker 5: We were more just like, oh, well, you know, Audrey
Speaker 5: can't take care of Jay anymore, so you're gonna get
Speaker 5: to ride Jay for a while. So then I just
Speaker 5: kind of learned and was not great hence the future
Speaker 5: champion of it all, but developed a real affection for
Speaker 5: the animals.
Speaker 1: They're sweet, sweet animals.
Speaker 3: It would be hard to ride Jay for a little while.
Speaker 4: And then you gotta take the horse back and remove
Speaker 4: all the polish on its whos And because you want
Speaker 4: to have your own horse.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got to strip the varnish off when you
Speaker 1: give the horse.
Speaker 4: Sure, you always gotta strip the horse. It's called not
Speaker 4: ride rode all day and hung up wet. That's it's
Speaker 4: a varnish reference. A lot of people don't know that.
Speaker 2: I actually when I was like I think about seven
Speaker 2: or eight, because my aunt and uncle who lived next
Speaker 2: door had a very small farm, and so there was
Speaker 2: a one evening where my mom was particularly tired from work,
Speaker 2: and I almost convinced her to get to let me
Speaker 2: have a horse because my aunt had the acreage and
Speaker 2: it was the same thing where like we were in
Speaker 2: four h so there was it would have been not
Speaker 2: hard to acquire. Although I had no concept of the
Speaker 2: how truly expensive.
Speaker 1: I mean like it's just next level. It's next level.
Speaker 2: And my cousin Stevie, who was like five years older
Speaker 2: than me, he was like a champion sage rider. So
Speaker 2: I was like, well, I'll just start doing what Stevie's doing.
Speaker 1: He can teach me. And like the I don't know
Speaker 1: however I did it.
Speaker 2: I almost she was like actually considering it in front
Speaker 2: of me, which I knew meant we were way further
Speaker 2: down the decision chain. Like you know when you start
Speaker 2: learning how to really manipulate your mom and you're just like, oh,
Speaker 2: I've almost got her here.
Speaker 1: This is amazing.
Speaker 2: It was teach me to be so responsible yet I
Speaker 2: mean coming out with bullshit or it's just like, of course,
Speaker 2: i'll take care of it.
Speaker 1: Every day, I'm already doing blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I right as I watched her almost say yes,
Speaker 2: I was like this is insane.
Speaker 1: She's listening to me.
Speaker 2: Like I came into this awareness of like I can
Speaker 2: actually make her do stuff that I want to do. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but then ultimately she the next day, you know, somehow
Speaker 2: my dad got in the conversation.
Speaker 3: Yeah, was hell no, she.
Speaker 5: Came to her senses or she watched you, like, say
Speaker 5: you were going to vacuum for two weeks straight and
Speaker 5: then not do it, and she was like, yes, child, cannot.
Speaker 1: Have a horse.
Speaker 2: There's no way because they're also you have to know, uh,
Speaker 2: it's not a casual animal to.
Speaker 1: Have the least or casual animal.
Speaker 5: Maybe maybe crocodile maybe, but like after that, I think
Speaker 5: it's worse for most maintenance least casual. A horse is
Speaker 5: semi formal at all times. Cocktail is semi formal at
Speaker 5: all times.
Speaker 1: Zero cash, yeah.
Speaker 4: Real, but yeah, like but with crocodiles, there's a whole
Speaker 4: lifestyle that yeah did here.
Speaker 1: To Crocodiles are black tie for sure.
Speaker 4: For sure, you got to wear those a safari type hat.
Speaker 2: Yep. Yeah, the tension never goes down, like you're not
Speaker 2: always scared, always.
Speaker 1: Always on a high alert.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I find it amazing because I grew up in Montana,
Speaker 4: and all of Montana is fairly rural, and I always
Speaker 4: had access to horses, and I never once sat on
Speaker 4: a horse until I moved to Los Angeles and just
Speaker 4: talked into taking polo lessons. Oh interesting, and these horses
Speaker 4: are so well trained that and I'm terrible on a horse.
Speaker 4: I know, for how because of how sore I was
Speaker 4: for days, like I couldn't walk. But I swung the mallet.
Speaker 4: I think I've talked about this before, and I missed
Speaker 4: the ball and I hit the horse in the chin
Speaker 4: and the horse and I'm like, I'm so sorry, and
Speaker 4: I swear he said something to the effect of it's okay,
Speaker 4: it happens all the time, and then he kicked the
Speaker 4: ball for me, as if to be like, oh you
Speaker 4: did that, good job, sir. Yeah, it knew it knew
Speaker 4: it was dealing with amateurs. But I felt so bad,
Speaker 4: and I never I haven't been on a horse since
Speaker 4: I've been on a horse.
Speaker 1: Idea of the horse kicking the ball for you.
Speaker 3: Out of the kid.
Speaker 4: I missed the ball and the horse kicked it with
Speaker 4: his back foot and was like, oh, yeah, we're doing
Speaker 4: it now, and like you did that for me.
Speaker 5: See that horse knows that all of these lessons are
Speaker 5: ninety minutes long, and like the the Sooner, he could
Speaker 5: just keep you moving, keep you happy, keep you from
Speaker 5: doing something weird.
Speaker 1: Ask for him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was making it easy on himself.
Speaker 4: God, I hope that horse really did accept my apology.
Speaker 1: I think so. I think most of them do.
Speaker 4: You're a true cowboy. The day that you know a
Speaker 4: horse accepted your apology. I've always said that.
Speaker 1: Yep, it's a code. It's a code amongst us.
Speaker 2: Do you feel like your experience in the rodeo has
Speaker 2: informed your later career in comedy, Like do you think
Speaker 2: that you learned any lessons in your early rodeo, because
Speaker 2: I would say that would be like first passive show business.
Speaker 2: That's about a show business. I mean I mentioned shots.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you're right. Taught me to take a bang
Speaker 1: and headshot.
Speaker 5: Just a real ripper of a fuzzy edged picture.
Speaker 3: Is a good one.
Speaker 5: Probably helped me navigate, you know, a toxic climber type.
Speaker 5: I definitely think that, you know, that was my first
Speaker 5: taste of because I didn't play any other like sports.
Speaker 5: I didn't do any other like really activities other than
Speaker 5: like drama club and my drama people were pretty chill,
Speaker 5: so this probably was my first taste of like, oh,
Speaker 5: hierarchy and you know that sort of social thing that
Speaker 5: I in competition.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like it's deeply competitive.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, so that probably trained me for improvisors, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's for sure.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 2: And also I would think just anything having to do
Speaker 2: with courses, it's money, money, money, So it truly is
Speaker 2: like that being aware of the thing that you're most
Speaker 2: of us are raised of, like ultimately you have to
Speaker 2: be a good person, and it's like, well, then why
Speaker 2: is the rich girl who's not a good person in
Speaker 2: charge socially of what we're doing?
Speaker 5: Like yeah, yeah, And there became a little bit of
Speaker 5: a weird thing too, where we were exchanging work a
Speaker 5: lot of times for lessons, so I was like doing
Speaker 5: I was trading, like you know, working in our trainers'
Speaker 5: stalls and stuff like that. So I was like taking
Speaker 5: care of her horse and she was teaching me. So
Speaker 5: the dynamic just gets weird because you're like not on
Speaker 5: the same footing as everyone else, and ultimately just it
Speaker 5: it became too expensive and my heart wasn't super in it.
Speaker 1: So I think my mom was like.
Speaker 5: This is a lot we're gonna We're gonna move to
Speaker 5: town now and not have to wake up at five
Speaker 5: am every day.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, of course.
Speaker 5: So yeah, I don't know why horses going eat so early.
Speaker 5: They should try intermitt in fasting or something.
Speaker 3: It's very annoying.
Speaker 2: Can they don't if you don't feed them, they'll like
Speaker 2: kick their stall door down or whatever.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I took care of you, go out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I took care of our neighbors horses.
Speaker 2: And I was in fifth grade, I think, or either
Speaker 2: fourth or fifth grade, I can't remember.
Speaker 1: But it was a full time It was like a
Speaker 1: full time job.
Speaker 2: I had to go in the morning and I had
Speaker 2: to go in the evening and walk two horses that
Speaker 2: had just been sitting in these stalls, feed them, walk them,
Speaker 2: and clean their stalls out.
Speaker 1: And it sucked.
Speaker 2: So it was so much work that eventually I was
Speaker 2: just like, what am I doing this for?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I think it gave me a real aversion to chores,
Speaker 5: which is not great to be like an adult woman
Speaker 5: now and not enjoying chores. But it's because I did
Speaker 5: the like my share of them. I feel like in
Speaker 5: like nineteen ninety eight, So I don't wanna do anymore?
Speaker 3: What is the event called? And I did?
Speaker 4: I have vague memories of doing this, but me and
Speaker 4: four grown men chased a baby was it a sheep?
Speaker 4: And I held a bucket and they tried to milk
Speaker 4: the sheep and I just was crying. I was crying
Speaker 4: because I was horrified and I felt bad. The animal
Speaker 4: was screaming. But I held a bucket and they shot
Speaker 4: milk into it, and then I remember we we did
Speaker 4: not win.
Speaker 3: That's what is that event? Is that knowing event? I
Speaker 3: don't know.
Speaker 1: I know so many white things, and I don't know
Speaker 1: what that is.
Speaker 3: I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1: I really like, I really know a lot of white things.
Speaker 5: You can ask me about Star Trek, you can ask
Speaker 5: me about talking heads and I'll go deep.
Speaker 1: But I don't know what this sheep milk bucketshit is.
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry.
Speaker 4: It was It's just was an exercise in me learning
Speaker 4: to say no.
Speaker 3: I think is what that was good?
Speaker 2: I almost like a county some sort of county fair event.
Speaker 3: It was not a main event. It was after the
Speaker 3: kids on sheep.
Speaker 4: It was one of the sure and then you you
Speaker 4: tackle and there was a guy that lasted the sheep's
Speaker 4: legs and the sheep did not enjoy it. And then
Speaker 4: to add insult injury, we were starting yanking on that
Speaker 4: sweet animals utters and and I just want to apologize
Speaker 4: not only to that horse, but to that sheep.
Speaker 1: If you're listening, they can't.
Speaker 3: I'm very sure you don't think we have any sheep listeners.
Speaker 2: You never know, you not that one, not the one
Speaker 2: that matters, not the one that needs to hear it.
Speaker 4: When were you in they talking Heads tribute band?
Speaker 3: Or how long did that last?
Speaker 1: Jump? I gotta talk. I gotta talk about it on
Speaker 1: every podcast they do.
Speaker 3: I got to.
Speaker 1: I get the word out. The people got to know.
Speaker 5: I did that from maybe like twenty ten to twenty
Speaker 5: twelve or something like that. But they were some friends
Speaker 5: of mine in Chicago who have a lot of different bands,
Speaker 5: but at the time they were doing a Talking Heads
Speaker 5: tribute and they needed an extra singer to come and
Speaker 5: be good to old Lynn Maybry and they're stop making
Speaker 5: sense recreation, and we did it and.
Speaker 1: It was super fun.
Speaker 5: So we like recreated the whole thing with like the
Speaker 5: lights and the costumes and it was a dream. So yeah,
Speaker 5: kind of toreed around at them for a while learned
Speaker 5: all the songs is Chicago?
Speaker 4: How you got connected with Four Lost Souls that band?
Speaker 5: Yeah, so that was so I was doing a play
Speaker 5: based on the music and writing of John Langford, who's
Speaker 5: a founding member of UK band The me Cons, and
Speaker 5: I did this like two person play and it was
Speaker 5: weird and strange, but John would like come to the
Speaker 5: rehearsals and so then John and I became friends from that,
Speaker 5: and then I just started working with him on his
Speaker 5: solo records, and I think it was after I'd moved
Speaker 5: to LA he started working with another close friend of
Speaker 5: mine who've made a lot of music with Bethany Thomas,
Speaker 5: and they we got invited to go down to Muscle Shoals,
Speaker 5: Alabama and record down there. So we just kind of
Speaker 5: like compiled. I don't know, it's like composites. All these
Speaker 5: bands are just sort of like composits of the same people,
Speaker 5: different you know, organizations, orders of the same folks, just
Speaker 5: rearranged and then you put out a record and you
Speaker 5: tour behind it a little bit and then you reshuffle
Speaker 5: and start over.
Speaker 4: Are all of those people in that band in LA
Speaker 4: or do you have to travel to play with them?
Speaker 1: No, they're all in Chicago. But we also like don't rehearse.
Speaker 5: We just kind of like we get together when we're
Speaker 5: going to record, and you know, we play some gigs
Speaker 5: and we work out some demos kind of remotely. But
Speaker 5: I mean John's been doing it so long and I've
Speaker 5: never really known him to be one to rehearse much
Speaker 5: of anything. So yeah, we all just kind of we
Speaker 5: just kind of figured it out in the studio, which
Speaker 5: is a luxury for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and also the me Cons are such a legendary band.
Speaker 2: I'm sure he has an audience that shows up and
Speaker 2: supports no matter what.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that's saying like i'd watch someone read the
Speaker 5: phone book, like I think I've literally seen Langford read
Speaker 5: part of a phone book like he He was the
Speaker 5: efficient at my wedding, and oh wow, I told him,
Speaker 5: you know, my husband never like, we want a short ceremony,
Speaker 5: we don't want much, and he's, you know, he's one
Speaker 5: of my best friends, and so I was like, you know, us,
Speaker 5: well just say whatever. I was like, we want like
Speaker 5: eight minutes long. So he literally I don't think he
Speaker 5: planned a single bullet point or item to say at all.
Speaker 5: And when he got done, our one of our guitarists,
Speaker 5: Jim Elkington, came up to us and was like, that
Speaker 5: was a very good ceremony. But John, it felt like
Speaker 5: you had street names but no house numbers.
Speaker 1: That became my.
Speaker 5: Favorite term for like you're just kind of winging it,
Speaker 5: like you know where you are, but not not super specific.
Speaker 1: You keep I've been down the same street going back up.
Speaker 1: You're like, is it on Elder? Is it on Elder
Speaker 1: or ash?
Speaker 4: That is so cool that you are in that band
Speaker 4: and it's just one of your side projects.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's it's got to be. It doesn't
Speaker 1: pay enough to be the main project.
Speaker 3: You I suppose, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5: Being in a band, I feel like every musician I know,
Speaker 5: no matter how famous they are, they're like, this is
Speaker 5: a hobby.
Speaker 2: Yeah God these days, especially unless there's some you guys
Speaker 2: got to get on TikTok and get one of those
Speaker 2: TikTok songs.
Speaker 5: Going, Oh my god, I feel I already feel like
Speaker 5: I'm made of dust. I feel six thousand years old.
Speaker 5: Every time I post a TikTok, I'm like, is this
Speaker 5: what you want?
Speaker 1: Children? I don't know.
Speaker 3: I yet barely.
Speaker 4: I just post old things like I'm trying to get
Speaker 4: one started, but I know I look at it once
Speaker 4: a week.
Speaker 2: I look at it, but I don't post anything. I
Speaker 2: don't I don't care to be a part of it.
Speaker 2: I'm just an audience member I like and you thoroughly
Speaker 2: enjoy it. Yeah, I don't care to do part of it.
Speaker 2: I just want to watch what all these wonderful, brilliant
Speaker 2: people are doing and saying to each other. And yeah,
Speaker 2: I think it's a really good version of social media,
Speaker 2: the version of these that I'm seeing on my mete,
Speaker 2: in my algorithm, in my feed.
Speaker 1: But I just don't. Yeah, as like you said, I
Speaker 1: feel too.
Speaker 2: Old, and I'm not trying to like like Chris Chris,
Speaker 2: you know, like here's my stand up comedy. You can
Speaker 2: come and see different pieces of it. You can also
Speaker 2: share it with your friends or whatever. Like, I just
Speaker 2: don't really have anything like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it took me a while to realize that was
Speaker 4: part of Tikknok and it wasn't just lip syncing and dancing.
Speaker 4: And at Yeah night I realized that. I was like, oh,
Speaker 4: there's a bunch of comics. I know that I have
Speaker 4: more people coming to their shows now because of TikTok, right,
Speaker 4: which it's like, am I going to miss out on this?
Speaker 4: Just like that YouTube craze.
Speaker 3: That I thought would go away.
Speaker 1: Thought would blow over.
Speaker 5: I also, when someone was telling me you you should
Speaker 5: really got on TikTok, I was like, I don't want
Speaker 5: to do a bunch of like Torso dances.
Speaker 1: I don't want to say that it's all just Torso.
Speaker 5: These children they don't have a hip to shake to
Speaker 5: save their life in this generation, and so they're just
Speaker 5: flailing their arms and I was like, I can't do that.
Speaker 5: But then I realized it was a good spot for
Speaker 5: BTS stuff for Star Trek because there's so much cute
Speaker 5: shit that happens that we do with Star Trek that
Speaker 5: I was like, Oh, this is a place to put
Speaker 5: this and I can just make it.
Speaker 1: That and not worry about it.
Speaker 5: And I also look at it about once a week,
Speaker 5: so I feel like we've reached a we've reached.
Speaker 1: A stasis me and TikTok.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's perfect for are you multiple characters on that.
Speaker 4: It's an animated Star Trek show, right, forgive me, I
Speaker 4: know that much about it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's Star Trek Lord Decks and it is. Yeah,
Speaker 5: we're the first Star Trek comedy. We're the first animated comedy,
Speaker 5: and we're starting season three that drops like this week,
Speaker 5: depending on when people hear it. But no, I mainly
Speaker 5: just play Mariner and then occasionally there will be like
Speaker 5: a little alien somewhere that our showrunners like, do you
Speaker 5: got like a weird voice for this little guy?
Speaker 1: We didn't cast this, And I'm like, sure, that's great. Yeah,
Speaker 1: gotta love an animated job. Man, Oh I love it.
Speaker 1: I love it so good.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's another way I'm so envious of you. It's
Speaker 4: the sweetest gig ever. I don't know why I always
Speaker 4: say you show up in your sweat pants. I don't
Speaker 4: know why that seems so luxurious to me. You don't
Speaker 4: have to worry about the pants.
Speaker 5: You don't have to worry about the pants. People aren't
Speaker 5: thinking about the pants. I have noticed, like my footwear
Speaker 5: is really important in there, though. You have to be
Speaker 5: very comfortable because you are kind of like standing and
Speaker 5: I can get a little lock need because I'm like
Speaker 5: staying there for four hours just screaming at a fast pace.
Speaker 5: But other than that, there's no other like wardrobe requirements.
Speaker 5: What's wild is a couple of us from lower decks
Speaker 5: just got to They just like announced this, So I'm
Speaker 5: new to being able to talk about it because it's
Speaker 5: been such a secret for so long. But they just
Speaker 5: put a couple of us in the live action show
Speaker 5: Strange New World. So we got to bring our animated
Speaker 5: characters to life and I got to like put on
Speaker 5: the uniform and do it for real. And that was
Speaker 5: fucking weird because I'm used to just standing in a
Speaker 5: booth and flailing and being in my sweatpants and so
Speaker 5: suddenly be like, I'm in the uniform and I have
Speaker 5: to think about how I stand and the badge and everything.
Speaker 1: It was a trip, but it was really fun.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is so exciting.
Speaker 2: That's I wonder it was the director like, were you
Speaker 2: getting a specific kind of note about your performance that
Speaker 2: had that was reflective of your voiceover performance.
Speaker 5: So the director was Jonathan Frakes, who, for any Trekkies,
Speaker 5: Noah's Riker.
Speaker 1: So we were like geeked at.
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm a lifelong Trekie, so I was geeked
Speaker 5: the hell out when I heard that it was freaks
Speaker 5: doing it. And so we had a couple of meetings
Speaker 5: before we started rolling, and he was just like, you know,
Speaker 5: we want to like figure out the tone because Strange
Speaker 5: New Worlds is very much like a an adventure Star
Speaker 5: Trek show. They are funny, but they're not outright a comedy.
Speaker 5: And I was like, yeah, I don't want to come
Speaker 5: in here just like a cannon of bits, a water
Speaker 5: cannon of bits and jokes and like bulldoze over their
Speaker 5: kind of delicate show. So we kind of had to
Speaker 5: like figure out the pace and everything. But I think
Speaker 5: it found a really good place under his direction because
Speaker 5: he's he's so Star Trek and he's so funny, and
Speaker 5: that whole cast is funny and great.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it was.
Speaker 5: It was an adjustment, but I think we worked it out.
Speaker 5: I don't know, we'll see in twenty twenty five or
Speaker 5: whenever the hell it comes out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, having a job like that with a Star Trek
Speaker 4: is probably scary getting because the fans are so watching
Speaker 4: hard and they're so dedicated. It's like a whole scene
Speaker 4: that you're I would hate to mess that up.
Speaker 3: In my mind.
Speaker 4: I would feel like, oh, they're going to see right
Speaker 4: through me, and I'm not going to be treky enough
Speaker 4: for the fans.
Speaker 1: Oh I mean, I will.
Speaker 5: I guess I'm a little lucky because I'm just as
Speaker 5: bad as they are. So I'm bat bring it, you,
Speaker 5: bunch of nerds. I am you. You're not going to
Speaker 5: point out anything I didn't already send my showrunner a
Speaker 5: feverish midnight email about being like, oh, I'm the continuentity.
Speaker 5: Doesn't make sense because in Deep Space nine this happened.
Speaker 5: Do y'all have anything like that? Or you like Star
Speaker 5: Wars heads or Marvel heads? Do you like a fandom?
Speaker 3: I'm not, and it's weird.
Speaker 4: I'm always surprised that I'm not into comic books because
Speaker 4: I draw that way. I'm an illustrator and i like
Speaker 4: that style of drawing, and I've never once owned a
Speaker 4: comic book. Like people always assume that I'd be into
Speaker 4: the Marvel world, but.
Speaker 3: I'm just I'm not.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I should be. Maybe it's never too late to
Speaker 4: get into comic.
Speaker 5: Trying to convince you I don't. I don't need you
Speaker 5: to be into comic.
Speaker 4: After we're done recording, just because I'm getting all this
Speaker 4: heavy pressure from you, I'm going to go to a
Speaker 4: comic book store.
Speaker 1: It's really important to me as a real comic head. Myself.
Speaker 3: I knew that's why you asked.
Speaker 2: But Chris, you would say, wouldn't you say that you
Speaker 2: are that way about skateboarding and skateboarders.
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I nerd out actually the other day.
Speaker 4: I and it was so embarrassing because I just went
Speaker 4: to Walgreens to get toilet paper and they did that
Speaker 4: thing where they just add the handles to my twenty
Speaker 4: four pack of toilet paper. I'm just walking with it
Speaker 4: like a briefcase out in public.
Speaker 3: Mid all the day.
Speaker 4: Not that people don't assume we all have bowel movements,
Speaker 4: but you don't like to parade it around.
Speaker 1: Like you don't briefcase it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't briefcase it.
Speaker 1: Not at home.
Speaker 3: I was wearing a suit too, all business.
Speaker 1: In a monocle. Where'd you get that monocle?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 4: Yes, go I go period with my with my business people.
Speaker 4: But I heard this voice. I was like, ooh, is
Speaker 4: that Chris Fairbanks. I looked at it was a car
Speaker 4: full of kids and p rod Paul Rodriguez, the comedian's son,
Speaker 4: is a big time.
Speaker 3: Pro skater that skates.
Speaker 4: He has its own Nike shoe and he's very successful skateboarder.
Speaker 4: And he was in the car, and he said, is
Speaker 4: that Chris and I nerd it out in a way
Speaker 4: that I don't think I would have.
Speaker 3: If it was whatever?
Speaker 4: Why do I just always say John Hamm as the example,
Speaker 4: or you know, or a comedian that I look up to,
Speaker 4: or any but sure, the fifteen year old in me
Speaker 4: when I saw it was p rod I really nerd
Speaker 4: it out and got very excited, and I finally found
Speaker 4: a place to brag about it right here, So I'm glad.
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is the place I like when somebody I like,
Speaker 5: when you have a like the person that makes you
Speaker 5: freak out is not in your industry.
Speaker 1: I think that's right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And oddly he is sort of connected because his
Speaker 4: dad has been a stand up forever and I used
Speaker 4: to work for a show where we'd interviewed skateboarders and
Speaker 4: snowboarders and.
Speaker 3: They were both on it together, p.
Speaker 4: Rod See or Paul Rodbriggs junior and senior together. So
Speaker 4: I guess that's how he knows me. But I was
Speaker 4: very surprised that in track.
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 4: It just made me feel really cool and yes, in
Speaker 4: the nerdiest way possible. I got very excited and I
Speaker 4: wanted to tell people, and again, thank you for giving
Speaker 4: me that chance.
Speaker 5: Right now, I'm here to provide you with a platform.
Speaker 5: That's what I came here to do.
Speaker 3: Toank you.
Speaker 1: Really well done, really really good.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Thank you for hosting this really well. That's been my show.
Speaker 5: You catch every Wednesday, make.
Speaker 3: Other people feel good about themselves.
Speaker 2: Thank you catch us every Wednesday.
Speaker 1: Right here on. Do you need a ride?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Have you thought about turning this into a multi camp
Speaker 1: you want to?
Speaker 2: Just? Yeah, okay, great, I think that's I think that
Speaker 2: will be best. That's the next move, Chris. I kind
Speaker 2: of wanted your anecdote to end with you getting so
Speaker 2: excited for seeing p Rod and him saying your name
Speaker 2: that you then shout on the sidewalk and then.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got it.
Speaker 1: I worked with your briefcases.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I'm holding these. I might as well,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 4: I just looked at him and held it up and
Speaker 4: said so embarrassing, and then they all drove off laughing.
Speaker 3: So it worked out. It worked out. I gotta laugh
Speaker 3: and they drove off, But yeah, okay, good.
Speaker 4: It's very And he actually seemed happy to have spotted me.
Speaker 3: Really, I don't know if I mentioned that he had pure.
Speaker 1: Joy you follow him on social media.
Speaker 4: I did him later and said it was great to
Speaker 4: see you out in the streets.
Speaker 3: You did, yeah, he replied.
Speaker 4: So now we have a little pen pal thing going anyway,
Speaker 4: you know enough about me and pee Rod.
Speaker 1: No, that's really cool. Look, you put yourself out there
Speaker 1: right yep, And maybe we shouldry to book him on this.
Speaker 4: Uh, the thought had crossed my mind. He's very funny.
Speaker 4: He's actually on a show called he was on that
Speaker 4: that biopic about Selena. Oh, he was like a member
Speaker 4: of her band, and he's starting to act in things.
Speaker 4: So I know him to be an interesting, funny person.
Speaker 3: So we'll talk later about other guests.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's not do it in front of our current guests.
Speaker 1: I'll call her book him. Okay, you come back for
Speaker 1: when he's on. Yes, i'll produce the segment. Thank you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a movie. You know.
Speaker 2: It's funny because I was trying to think of if
Speaker 2: I had an answer to your question of being like
Speaker 2: a super fan of something. And this might be my
Speaker 2: negative mind and the way I process the world around me,
Speaker 2: but I always think of the things like that that
Speaker 2: were forced on me by others.
Speaker 1: So like I had a college.
Speaker 2: Roommate who was obsessed with the Next Generation, so I've
Speaker 2: seen all of them. And she also had her nerd
Speaker 2: friends over who all also were obsessed with it, and
Speaker 2: they would like watch it and fight and you know,
Speaker 2: have these insane discussions, and there are other roommates. We
Speaker 2: would literally leave the house like if that if it
Speaker 2: was the night it was on when it was in syndication,
Speaker 2: I feel like it was on a weekend night, like
Speaker 2: maybe a Saturday or Sunday night maybe, and you would
Speaker 2: all just be like, yeah, exactly, it's like let's get
Speaker 2: out of here and go to Denny's while those guys
Speaker 2: nerd out and just are They're so intense, And there'd
Speaker 2: be like twelve people sitting around the TV like it
Speaker 2: was really it all of course, pre tvo, pre anything,
Speaker 2: so it was like you have to watch it real time,
Speaker 2: you have to watch it as it comes on or
Speaker 2: you'll miss it permanently. So I had to have a
Speaker 2: lot of the like viewing experience as if I've been
Speaker 2: a fan of a lot of things. Because also, like
Speaker 2: my ex husband was a cameraman. When Chris was interviewing
Speaker 2: skateboarders on Red carpet, So like, I feel like there's
Speaker 2: a bunch of things I know about, like like a
Speaker 2: devoted fan, but only because I've been forced to watch
Speaker 2: them by.
Speaker 1: The people that I lived with.
Speaker 5: You're describing kind of a non consensual fandom. You're describing
Speaker 5: kind of a secondhand fandom that was not your choice,
Speaker 5: And I thought.
Speaker 2: It's very little sister, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 2: you don't get the remote control, so you'll just watch
Speaker 2: Three's Company because that's what your sister picked or whatever.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of that kind of passive like, oh, well,
Speaker 2: this won't be worth getting hit with a brush over.
Speaker 1: So forget it. I'll just let this be the decision.
Speaker 4: And I would if you didn't let me occasionally bring
Speaker 4: up skateboarding on this podcast, you know, I'd be coming
Speaker 4: after you with that brush.
Speaker 2: It would be serious to let people have their way. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I can't think of I can't think of anything nothing
Speaker 2: you're super fan about, Like are you a cook? Are
Speaker 2: you a I don't know why I gotta get at this.
Speaker 2: I gotta like find the thing that.
Speaker 5: You're like, you know what I could annoy someone to
Speaker 5: death about is this?
Speaker 1: You know what it is?
Speaker 2: And it's I mean, it's not like a it's not
Speaker 2: that interesting, but it just.
Speaker 1: I really love British television.
Speaker 5: Oh we're talking like a like a marchella, like a
Speaker 5: broad Church, Like are you being served?
Speaker 1: What we talk in?
Speaker 2: All of it is true range Like I could talk
Speaker 2: about all three of those shows right now. I was
Speaker 2: actually making a joke to somebody the other day about
Speaker 2: how I can tell like on Prime where all the
Speaker 2: shows are listed by the network or the app that
Speaker 2: they're from, and there's a couple of those that they
Speaker 2: don't just have British shows.
Speaker 1: So there's like.
Speaker 2: Brit Box or Acorn, but they don't just have British shows.
Speaker 2: They also have Australian shows, and I know which ones
Speaker 2: are Australian on site and I was bragging. I truly
Speaker 2: didn't realize I was trying to brag. And then as
Speaker 2: I was saying and I was like, what's the point
Speaker 2: of talking about this right now?
Speaker 1: And because Kyle, who is a guy.
Speaker 2: I work with who I was telling it to, goes, Wow,
Speaker 2: that's cool.
Speaker 1: And then I was like, oh my god, oh my god,
Speaker 1: this might be like.
Speaker 2: The final step of like you know, COVID personality problem
Speaker 2: where it's like I actually said that, like it's interesting
Speaker 2: and it is not.
Speaker 5: Oh, I know, I know that feeling so well where
Speaker 5: I have been explaining something about Star Trek or something
Speaker 5: about some obscure band thing that I learned that I'm like,
Speaker 5: surely the person across from me wants to know these details,
Speaker 5: and they want to know the details behind the details
Speaker 5: and how I came by the details. And then their
Speaker 5: response is always just like wow, okay, and that tone
Speaker 5: makes me want to just I want to fold into
Speaker 5: myself like a stray sock and just hide, because yeah,
Speaker 5: they didn't want it.
Speaker 1: I would rather. I would rather they be like shut
Speaker 1: the fuck up, or well.
Speaker 2: Now that you mentioned i'm gonna take I'm gonna keep
Speaker 2: an eye out. But like trying basically trying to It's
Speaker 2: almost like trying to recenter the conversational vibe of out
Speaker 2: of your weirdness and back up here to normal.
Speaker 1: That's kind of how it feels.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're like, oh, I didn't realize, okay, and I'm
Speaker 2: just like, shoot, I did it again.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like they're trying to have like a little palette cleanser.
Speaker 5: They're trying to take a quick little shot of coffee
Speaker 5: just to kind of yeah, right, let's get back to
Speaker 5: something we all know and to care about and want
Speaker 5: to talk about. Yeah, yeah, I get that a lot.
Speaker 5: And you know, I don't know that I'm going to stop.
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't, don't, please don't, yeah, don't ever stop right, Well,
Speaker 2: because then we won't have podcasts.
Speaker 1: I mean exactly what podcasts are.
Speaker 5: That is what a podcast is is the thing that
Speaker 5: you can't bother your friend with in person, you do
Speaker 5: into a microphone.
Speaker 4: Yep, were you just a guest on YO?
Speaker 3: As this racist?
Speaker 4: And then did I read that correctly? Then Andrew asked
Speaker 4: to join you. That's a sign that you are a
Speaker 4: very good guest.
Speaker 1: Right, I think she is a good guest so far.
Speaker 3: I know what I'm what I'm driving at is, will
Speaker 3: you please take my place?
Speaker 5: On?
Speaker 3: Do you need to ride?
Speaker 1: Chris?
Speaker 3: I've run out of stories, Karen, You and I both
Speaker 3: know it.
Speaker 1: No, you have stories, Glow, You're still writing stories every day.
Speaker 5: I'm once rewording. Also, Okay, you know I've done the research.
Speaker 5: Twelve percent of every podcast is going you know. I
Speaker 5: may have told this story before, but and that's.
Speaker 3: We have to accept that.
Speaker 1: It's okay because there's new listeners every day.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was a guest Andrew and I became friends,
Speaker 5: and then I was kind of like popping off a
Speaker 5: lot on Twitter. And I think he was like tired
Speaker 5: because he'd been doing the show for so long by himself.
Speaker 5: And you know, it's a tricky like needle to thread
Speaker 5: because it's a comedy show. We take voicemails, but like
Speaker 5: so he would always be alone and then having a
Speaker 5: guest come on and depending on the energy of the guest,
Speaker 5: y'all know how that can go.
Speaker 1: It's just not always like a vibe.
Speaker 5: And so when you're talking about something tricky like racism
Speaker 5: and trying to be funny, Yeah, not always having a
Speaker 5: vibe just didn't make for the most fun experience.
Speaker 4: For him, and it would be exhausting to ride that line.
Speaker 4: And that is what I read is he said, I'm tired.
Speaker 4: Will you help come and join me and help them
Speaker 4: be less tired? Yeah that's yeah, that's so great.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So now we kind of just, you know, we do
Speaker 5: it together and we don't always have guests, and we
Speaker 5: have like a little we have a very lovely friendship
Speaker 5: together where I'm just like happy to talk to my
Speaker 5: friend each week and then marginally said that it has
Speaker 5: to be about racism, but you know, at least we
Speaker 5: get to hang.
Speaker 1: And is that podcast? I mean, I feel like it's
Speaker 1: been around a while. Yeah, has it? When did it start?
Speaker 1: Do you know? Offhand? Sorry to ask a question like that.
Speaker 5: No, that's okay. I don't know the date. Maybe it
Speaker 5: was like twenty twelve or thirteen.
Speaker 1: He might have started.
Speaker 5: It might have been longer ago than that, and then
Speaker 5: I joined in like twenty eighteen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because I was going to ask, but I
Speaker 2: didn't want to ask if you if it hadn't been
Speaker 2: that long, but I felt like i'd remembered it, like, oh,
Speaker 2: that's kind of one of those stallwart podcasts that like it.
Speaker 2: It started and it really caught fire, and people really
Speaker 2: liked that it was getting that that kind of conversation
Speaker 2: was getting airtime because it's like, finally, it's not white
Speaker 2: people talking about well, we've decided racism is.
Speaker 1: Over or we've decided this is okay.
Speaker 2: And it was finally like people themselves, you know, of
Speaker 2: people of color, of an experience, actually being the ones
Speaker 2: leading the discussion. And I was just going to ask,
Speaker 2: do you feel like the discussion changed when we were
Speaker 2: all in quarantine and when the Black Lives Matter protests
Speaker 2: happened and those the big movement really kind of started
Speaker 2: to see some real like right and movement real effects.
Speaker 4: And racism has sort of been on parade in the
Speaker 4: last couple of years.
Speaker 1: I love that Rage against Machine song.
Speaker 4: Yeah, anytime I can'de lyric.
Speaker 1: No, No, you're absolutely right. Yeah.
Speaker 5: You know, it kind of goes in waves of like
Speaker 5: people's attention kind of wanting to talk about these things.
Speaker 5: But definitely in the summer of twenty twenty, I mean,
Speaker 5: we saw a spike in listenership, so we're like, oh, cool,
Speaker 5: nice to be, you know, wartime profiteers. That feels great,
Speaker 5: But it was like, what we did notice was that,
Speaker 5: because you know, we're comedians primarily, we're not experts. We're
Speaker 5: not like DEI diversity inclusion specialists or whatever, so we
Speaker 5: very much come from the place of like we're just
Speaker 5: talking about our perspective and our experience, and we bring
Speaker 5: guests on to speak from their experience. We answer these
Speaker 5: wild ass voicemails that are literally things like a white
Speaker 5: guy calling in and saying the taco bell near me
Speaker 5: only gives me, mild sauce, Are they being racist.
Speaker 1: To me because I'm white? And you know, then it
Speaker 1: ranges to more serious shit too.
Speaker 5: But what we noticed, what I noticed is that there
Speaker 5: was much more willingness and openness to have some of
Speaker 5: these conversations amongst white folks, like the conversations that I
Speaker 5: would previously just kind of keep in a in a
Speaker 5: black and brown group chat. Suddenly, though, like white producers
Speaker 5: I worked with on set, We're wanting to talk about
Speaker 5: these things. And after the initial like gag for me
Speaker 5: of being like why is this? Why is this lady
Speaker 5: I work for coming up and wanting to talk to
Speaker 5: me about you know, wealth, inequalities and gender pay gap
Speaker 5: and shit like that, then I was like, great, you
Speaker 5: want to talk about it, Let's dive in. And so
Speaker 5: it's definitely felt like more acceptable to have these conversations
Speaker 5: like out loud, and to have more fun with them too,
Speaker 5: because I think that's also important, is to not always
Speaker 5: have the conversation in like a sit down, scary, you know,
Speaker 5: HR meeting type of way, Like sometimes you got to
Speaker 5: just be able to yes, you gotta be.
Speaker 1: Able to do the goofs well.
Speaker 2: And I feel like that is such a great point
Speaker 2: to make of, Like, I think people want to go
Speaker 2: to the place where they can hear about experiences or
Speaker 2: stories or call ins or whatever and just hear other
Speaker 2: people kind of theorizing or saying what they they personally think.
Speaker 2: But you know, no one's an expert without that thing
Speaker 2: of I feel like what I really was fascinated by
Speaker 2: because we're all kind of at home and just staring
Speaker 2: at our phones and our TVs and stuff, But that
Speaker 2: idea that there would be these trends where it's like
Speaker 2: you were supposed to have already known this, and you
Speaker 2: could tell that there was certain white people, and I
Speaker 2: think it's probably the white people who actually really give
Speaker 2: a shit who would be real reactive. So it's like,
Speaker 2: remember that thing on There was some day where everyone
Speaker 2: on Instagram just made their icon black and just like
Speaker 2: blacked out everything, and all the activists are like.
Speaker 1: What are you doing? Who thought of this? This is
Speaker 1: the worst idea, But.
Speaker 2: It had already gone, So everyone kind of did it
Speaker 2: because they thought this is what we're quote unquote supposed
Speaker 2: to do, but they were doing it based on kind
Speaker 2: of like a social media rumor.
Speaker 3: And yeah, clogging what could have been information.
Speaker 2: Yes, and like it was just things like that where
Speaker 2: I started watching or there was one where someone and
Speaker 2: I think these were troll moves, but who can never say.
Speaker 2: There was one where it was like white women always
Speaker 2: pick you know, like the actual people emojis. They're like
Speaker 2: they're always picking white people for their people emojis or whatever,
Speaker 2: and you just watched every white person only use yellow,
Speaker 2: the yellow first one that.
Speaker 1: You pick, like the Simpsons one yet.
Speaker 2: Right, And also like that is going to impact fucking
Speaker 2: like on the ground racism, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Like it's that thing of like everyone wants it to
Speaker 2: be that simple, like oh no, see, I use the rights, I'm.
Speaker 1: Off the hook. I'm doing good. That is funny.
Speaker 5: We do get a surprising amount of calls about those
Speaker 5: emoji colors. When those emoji colors rolled out, people were shock.
Speaker 5: People are confused. We get biracial people. I'm biracial. I
Speaker 5: identify as black because, as my dad told me when
Speaker 5: I was a child, don't nobody care about your white side.
Speaker 1: You look black.
Speaker 5: So I use like a real a Median color. But
Speaker 5: we get biracial people who call in and they'll be
Speaker 5: like my friend told me that the color I'm using
Speaker 5: is too dark?
Speaker 1: Am I trying to pass for lighter? Blah blah blah.
Speaker 5: And then we have white people that call in and
Speaker 5: they're like, I'm uncomfortable by all of it. I just
Speaker 5: want to put the blackest one on there, and we're.
Speaker 1: Like, no, no, no, don't do that.
Speaker 5: So I feel like I feel like our show is
Speaker 5: the good kind of like low Steaks area for people
Speaker 5: to hash out those things that are bothering them. Because
Speaker 5: you're right, it doesn't mean that it's going to lead
Speaker 5: to a reduction in police brutality against black and brown people,
Speaker 5: or maybe in some incremental, tiny way of just everybody
Speaker 5: getting more comfortable with these conversations. Maybe it does. But yeah, no,
Speaker 5: we're not heroes. We're a comedy show. And truly, the
Speaker 5: voicemails are so wild. I can't I forever. I'm so
Speaker 5: grateful that Andrew manages that inbox and that I don't
Speaker 5: have to dig in there and just listen to the
Speaker 5: absolute trash that people leave in there.
Speaker 1: What a nightmare.
Speaker 3: No, yes, do you think.
Speaker 1: That guy was being sincere about the talk about Yes?
Speaker 3: Really was.
Speaker 1: He was distressed.
Speaker 5: He was like, I just I don't want to call
Speaker 5: them out, but like they're doing this to me and
Speaker 5: I want spicy sauce.
Speaker 3: Just say it.
Speaker 5: Then he didn't want. Oh, we get a lot of
Speaker 5: scared whites. We had a lot of scared whites that
Speaker 5: are worried they don't want to tell a brown person.
Speaker 1: You know. It's a lot of that too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to hear more of them. Are some
Speaker 3: other memorable voicemails.
Speaker 5: That, I mean every Christmas we get the like the
Speaker 5: Zvarti Pete, you know, the black face Santa the Netherlands
Speaker 5: black Face Santa one. Yeah, and those are just like, yeah,
Speaker 5: this sucks. I don't know what you want me to say.
Speaker 5: We get a lot of like my white coworker always
Speaker 5: wants to bring up the fact that she has a
Speaker 5: black husband. How do I gently tell her as a
Speaker 5: fellow white person, Like nobody wants to hear this.
Speaker 3: So there's a lot of like that's a good one.
Speaker 1: Navigating little weird stuff like that. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 5: Sometimes I hear these voicemails and they go into like
Speaker 5: a file in my brain that's like, once you're done
Speaker 5: with this podcast, you never need to think about this again.
Speaker 1: So it self destructs or.
Speaker 4: Something, so you just talk after they've left the voicemail.
Speaker 4: It's never in person with these people that you have
Speaker 4: to respond.
Speaker 5: You know, the only time we've done that is in
Speaker 5: our live shows. We've just we've been doing a couple
Speaker 5: of live shows this summer and we'll invite people to
Speaker 5: come up to the mic and be brave. And with
Speaker 5: this one in Minneapolis recently, this man, first of all,
Speaker 5: I roasted him so hard because he said, my girlfriend's mom,
Speaker 5: you know, she's like an older lady, she's gen X.
Speaker 5: And I was like, I want to punch you in
Speaker 5: the fucking face. First of all, your girlfriend's mom is
Speaker 5: gen X. I don't want to know. I don't want
Speaker 5: to do this math right now. But he was like, yeah,
Speaker 5: she won't say Spike Lee joint because she thinks, as
Speaker 5: a white lady, that's racist. And we had to like
Speaker 5: parse whether or not this gen X lady was allowed
Speaker 5: to say Spike Lee joint. I'm like, man, man, it's
Speaker 5: good to think about things, but like some of y'all
Speaker 5: just think too hard.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is really digging the bottom of the.
Speaker 2: And as a gen X person, there was I feel
Speaker 2: like back then when no one talked about anything, and
Speaker 2: literally there would be articles that would come out on
Speaker 2: the paper of like we're post racist America. There was
Speaker 2: all kinds of like crazy, you know, kind of corporate
Speaker 2: declarations of thank god, now the Barack Obama is the president,
Speaker 2: we never have to worry about racism again, like that
Speaker 2: kind of shit, where like there were people who cared
Speaker 2: and were paying attention where it's like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, where is your where does.
Speaker 2: Good sense and and hyper sensitivity for being one of
Speaker 2: the only people representing that kind of even it's light attention. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's a Spike Lee joint where it's like if it
Speaker 2: says it on the movie poster.
Speaker 1: Aren't you allowed to say it?
Speaker 5: Like you can say it? Lady lady scared? You're so nervous.
Speaker 5: People be nervous these days, you guys. People don't want
Speaker 5: to get stuff wrong. People don't want to I mean
Speaker 5: with everything, with everything. Do you feel that, Because now
Speaker 5: y'all are veterans at this, at talking and at being
Speaker 5: yourselves on a microphone, do you has that gone away
Speaker 5: for you? You know, sometimes you get a guest on who's
Speaker 5: like very nervous about what they're saying and how they're
Speaker 5: presenting themselves.
Speaker 1: Do y'all. I just feel like your audience understands you
Speaker 1: and you're chill with it.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 4: I always think that I can screw things up. I'm
Speaker 4: never that comfortable. I still get nervous before I sit
Speaker 4: down to do this, and I think it comes from
Speaker 4: a healthy place, but yeah, no, I'm not comfortable. I
Speaker 4: still get very nervous to do this.
Speaker 5: Is that though, because you want to be funny, Because
Speaker 5: that's like a different anxiety, right.
Speaker 4: Like yes, and that a lot of it is coming
Speaker 4: from there, like I win I or when I'm trying
Speaker 4: to be funny and I just trample over Karen saying
Speaker 4: something thoughtful.
Speaker 1: I've been no toed. We've already talked about that a bunch.
Speaker 4: But I'm like, I will try and get a joke
Speaker 4: out at all by all means necessary, and that includes
Speaker 4: interrupting my co host and or guest.
Speaker 2: But that's twenty five years of stand up comedy green
Speaker 2: room experience that doesn't go away. Yeah, just because we're
Speaker 2: all on a zoom, Yeah, it would be I also
Speaker 2: think it would be different if we were all in
Speaker 2: the same studio right now. Like the interrupting thing I
Speaker 2: feel like is zoom related very much? Because none of
Speaker 2: us have a sense. We have to anticipate like three
Speaker 2: seconds ahead, where if we were sitting around each other,
Speaker 2: we would know when somebody else wanted to talk.
Speaker 1: We would feel it.
Speaker 3: Yeahah, I can hear you when we're in the car.
Speaker 4: I can hear you inhale as if about to speak,
Speaker 4: you know, there's a little.
Speaker 1: So should we be doing a heavier inhale?
Speaker 2: Yeah, just get right up on the mic if you
Speaker 2: want to say something, No, me first, loudest inhale first. Well,
Speaker 2: and also I think having my favorite murder from my experience,
Speaker 2: having my favorite murder where we had no fucking clue
Speaker 2: what we were doing, and we suddenly got big and
Speaker 2: we're talking about very sensitive things insensitively or just kind
Speaker 2: of like not realizing, and it wasn't It wasn't. Most
Speaker 2: of it wasn't race related, because most serial killers are
Speaker 2: usually the ones we were talking about are white straight men.
Speaker 2: So it was more around like, do you even understand
Speaker 2: the topic and the subject of what you're saying, the sensitivity,
Speaker 2: the reality of it, which we didn't, And so we
Speaker 2: heard back immediately from the beginning of that podcast in
Speaker 2: such an intense way that I think we learned a
Speaker 2: lesson that I then was able to just kind of
Speaker 2: carry through, which is that you have to be in
Speaker 2: a willing to learn in your whole life. You're never
Speaker 2: the final expert, you never know best. No matter what
Speaker 2: position you're in, you always have to be able to
Speaker 2: hear from a random person on the internet and go,
Speaker 2: I really need to think about that. And for some
Speaker 2: people that is the worst thing that they could possibly do.
Speaker 2: But I was like, oh yeah, being a comic and
Speaker 2: built like the kind of people that I think I
Speaker 2: like and that I spend my time with are comics
Speaker 2: that they're the kind of people that keep an open
Speaker 2: mind always because that's best for creativity. So like, if
Speaker 2: somebody wants to tell you about something that you're doing,
Speaker 2: you would like my dog Frank, who really wants me
Speaker 2: to let him back into the room and be on
Speaker 2: the podcast. You need to listen. You need to listen
Speaker 2: to Frank sensitivity. But I mean, like that's it's like this,
Speaker 2: it's the lesson we're all learning like together as society
Speaker 2: almost because social media where it's like suddenly a bunch
Speaker 2: of people get to talk that you were speaking for
Speaker 2: before that didn't want you speaking for them, but you
Speaker 2: didn't even have to know that before as a white person,
Speaker 2: you could just be like, hooray, racisms over.
Speaker 1: I never forget parade. We had a parade. It was
Speaker 1: great and we felt so much better after it. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's so funny. Yeah.
Speaker 5: I think about that like balancing act. I feel I
Speaker 5: feel like it's a balancing act for me in terms
Speaker 5: of like being open and remembering that I need to
Speaker 5: listen to folks and having sensitivities to that, but also
Speaker 5: having a real knee jerk reaction that comes from the
Speaker 5: trauma of being a woman on the Internet and having
Speaker 5: like comments that are usually just men telling me I'm
Speaker 5: wrong about some Star Trek thing or about some you know,
Speaker 5: Rolling Stones thing that I.
Speaker 1: Posted or whatever.
Speaker 5: I'm dropping things, and so then there's that very last
Speaker 5: pissed Yeah I'm going real sheehol can hear it?
Speaker 1: Just absolutely trashing my ouse.
Speaker 5: But yeah, there's a there's a weird thing where sometimes
Speaker 5: I have to really take a pause when I get
Speaker 5: a Twitter comment that's like correcting me in some way,
Speaker 5: because I really have to examine, like where's this coming from.
Speaker 5: Is this just someone dying to be right about some
Speaker 5: minor detail that they're usually wrong about, especially if it's
Speaker 5: from one of those topics I just said. All the
Speaker 5: people correcting me on Star Trek are so often wrong
Speaker 5: that it just makes me. I'm like, what do you think?
Speaker 5: What do you think I sit around and do not
Speaker 5: rewatch the series and work for the franchise and host
Speaker 5: the official podcast.
Speaker 1: What do you think I do?
Speaker 4: But anyway, Oh, it'll be like they're correcting something using
Speaker 4: Google later on that you say off the top of
Speaker 4: your head during the podcast. Right, that's always my favorite.
Speaker 4: I've done a little research, and I'm here to let
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 4: I don't do any research as I speak. I just
Speaker 4: don't have that capability.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
Speaker 5: I also am like the first one to be like,
Speaker 5: I'm not an expert, guys, blah blah blah. But then
Speaker 5: out of the side of my neck, I'm like, but
Speaker 5: I but I kind of am. Just listen to me,
Speaker 5: I'm right about this, or at least I work for
Speaker 5: the people who know.
Speaker 4: And I asked them, yes, so did you pursue acting
Speaker 4: on that Star Trek and animated series?
Speaker 1: I didn't know. It just got lucky, Oh wow, lucky.
Speaker 5: It was not a dish it was a little voiceover
Speaker 5: all dish that's so perfect.
Speaker 1: It was great.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because I had a little code name, so I
Speaker 5: didn't know it was Star Trek. And I never thought
Speaker 5: Star Trek would do a comedy because it's always so
Speaker 5: you know, it's these like morality plays about being human.
Speaker 5: And at the time, the Star Trek shows in existence
Speaker 5: were Star Trek Discovery and I believe Picard maybe hadn't
Speaker 5: aired yet, but we knew it was and uh yeah,
Speaker 5: both like dramas, like sci fi adventure dramas. So when
Speaker 5: my agent said, oh, by the way, this thing code
Speaker 5: named California Class is actually the new Star Trek animated show,
Speaker 5: I was like, what they're doing, funny Star Trek.
Speaker 1: Please let me play like an alien. Let me just
Speaker 1: like be in the corner. I'll do whatever.
Speaker 5: And so I went in and it was a waiting
Speaker 5: room full of famous women, just like all the famous
Speaker 5: comedy women. And I was like, oh, no, goodbye, I'll
Speaker 5: never get anything here. And I started to do the
Speaker 5: sides and then I made some comment to the showrunner
Speaker 5: was in the booth, Mike McMahon, and I made some
Speaker 5: comment about the sides. I was like, oh, I love
Speaker 5: that you put in this like reference or whatever, like
Speaker 5: clearly trying to flex that I was a fan.
Speaker 4: Right, I was going to ask if you in the audition,
Speaker 4: like I have something to show them that you knew
Speaker 4: what you were, because that's great.
Speaker 5: No other I have no other claim to any other
Speaker 5: franchise like this. I don't know a shit about Marvel,
Speaker 5: I don't know shit about Star Wars. So I was like,
Speaker 5: this is the one place where I can actually be like,
Speaker 5: wasn't that funny how they made Deanna Troy where I
Speaker 5: jumpsuit before they give her a uniform, and and Mike
Speaker 5: the showrunner was like, wait, are you like a big
Speaker 5: Star Trek fan? Can you just like improvise a bunch
Speaker 5: of Star Trek shit at the end of the scene.
Speaker 5: Oh wow, Like I sure can, buddy, give me.
Speaker 3: The chance in that moment where you like, I think
Speaker 3: I'm getting.
Speaker 5: This, No, I still was concentrating on all of the
Speaker 5: famous women that I had just been watching on my
Speaker 5: television were sitting in that reading room.
Speaker 4: Who was in there, Dish, I'll tell you off, like,
Speaker 4: I don't want to beat them.
Speaker 5: I beat them, Chris, Yeah, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1: But they didn't.
Speaker 5: They didn't give us the script ahead of time, so
Speaker 5: everyone was in that waiting room frantically trying to read
Speaker 5: the script, and I got there late because it was
Speaker 5: pilot season. I was miserable. I was coming from like
Speaker 5: thirty other jobs I wasn't going to get and so
Speaker 5: I like thumbed through it and the names were all
Speaker 5: coded differently, so I didn't know like what gender, I
Speaker 5: didn't know what role anyone was, and I just went
Speaker 5: in and read for this role and then like to
Speaker 5: my later, when my agent said I got it, I
Speaker 5: was like, oh, my.
Speaker 1: God, that's really cool.
Speaker 5: I get to be like part of this world. And
Speaker 5: I was excited. But it wasn't until the table read.
Speaker 5: I showed up to the table read and saw that
Speaker 5: my script was in the center of the table that
Speaker 5: I realized I was the lead of the show. I
Speaker 5: was so trying to qua cool, but I was like, wait, what,
Speaker 5: how what?
Speaker 1: So I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: Before you walked into the huge conference room where everybody
Speaker 2: is on the first day of a table read, which
Speaker 2: if you haven't and most people haven't, it's really one
Speaker 2: of the most thrilling and exciting and kind of like
Speaker 2: inside show business experiences because everybody that works on the
Speaker 2: show is sitting in chairs around the table, and then
Speaker 2: there's a table some sort of table configuration with the
Speaker 2: cast acting out like the pilot episode or the first episode.
Speaker 2: So everybody shows up to kind of watch this, like
Speaker 2: here we go, and you're telling me that in that
Speaker 2: room is where you found out you got the lead
Speaker 2: of this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you thought maybe it was one of those great
Speaker 4: alien voices on the side or something like I.
Speaker 5: Think, you know, I think I knew she was a regular,
Speaker 5: and I was like, this is great. I'm like in
Speaker 5: the crew somewhere, but I hadn't been given a script
Speaker 5: and I didn't know.
Speaker 1: I just didn't know.
Speaker 5: And it's funny that like literally in the center of
Speaker 5: the table was my script, and then right next to
Speaker 5: it was the script for the person playing Boimler, who
Speaker 5: is now my good friend, Jack Quaid, and we we
Speaker 5: kind of both looked at each other like, wait, are
Speaker 5: we like important to this thing? Because I think he
Speaker 5: had the same moment of like, oh, I don't know,
Speaker 5: I'm like in this thing I'm doing. You know, he'd
Speaker 5: worked some, but Jack is younger than me, and I
Speaker 5: don't know that he had had as many like voiceover
Speaker 5: type jobs. I hadn't really either, but I think he
Speaker 5: was like a little astounded too, and we both were
Speaker 5: kind of like, I think.
Speaker 1: We're like the top. I think we're co leading this thing.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: It was so it was very exciting.
Speaker 1: I love that. Yeah, that's so exciting.
Speaker 4: And it was two months later, like that's a long
Speaker 4: time to wait, it seems like, but I don't have
Speaker 4: that much experience with that.
Speaker 5: Maybe they hired somebody else and she's self distracted, you know,
Speaker 5: just shit the bed.
Speaker 3: Maybe yeah, well, hey.
Speaker 1: And that person was Jennifer Garner.
Speaker 2: I'm naming names. I'm here to name those names in
Speaker 2: the room. She was there, she had gotten everybody gifts,
Speaker 2: everyone loved her. But then Paramount said, nope, that's not said.
Speaker 1: What is she doing on there?
Speaker 3: Out of here?
Speaker 2: I remember when that because I believe I follow Mike
Speaker 2: McMahon on Twitter, and when he started being able to
Speaker 2: post about the show, I kept looking at it because
Speaker 2: I was like, wait a second, a Star Trek, an
Speaker 2: animated Star Trek series that's comedy. Like I couldn't get
Speaker 2: it through my head of like wait then this must
Speaker 2: be because I just kept thinking there's no way the
Speaker 2: Star Trek franchise would let them do this, so this
Speaker 2: must be some weird rebellion or like. I just kept
Speaker 2: trying to figure it out, and then I was like,
Speaker 2: oh no, this is this is the real deal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they let him. It's amazing.
Speaker 4: And I've only seen like a lot of the movies
Speaker 4: from the Shatner nimoy era, but I remember a lot
Speaker 4: of What's Someone where they get whaled, the Voyage Home.
Speaker 4: I think they take whales on Giant Space that had jokes,
Speaker 4: lots of jokes.
Speaker 1: And like they're hello, computer, come on.
Speaker 4: Inspiring radio radiohead to then oh sorry, I'm sorry, but yeah,
Speaker 4: I feel like there was always a joke or a
Speaker 4: funny moment in old Star Trek episodes. But maybe I'm
Speaker 4: also don't know what I'm talking about. And I believe
Speaker 4: I said track and not track. Once Tig was on
Speaker 4: and I was like, how long have you been on
Speaker 4: Star Treck.
Speaker 3: She's like, it's U and nice quiet for the rest
Speaker 3: of it.
Speaker 1: Oh that's a perfect that's perfect to get that from Tig.
Speaker 1: What an honor? Yeah? No, all that shit was funny.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, there I there's good jokes in there.
Speaker 2: I was just thinking about it. That's another forced fanship
Speaker 2: from childhood, not just in college. But Star Trek was
Speaker 2: the show that came on after cartoons but before the news,
Speaker 2: so it was like it was a way we marked
Speaker 2: time during the day of like right after school, we
Speaker 2: would watch cartoons and then sometimes it would go into
Speaker 2: like Three's Company or whatever, the syndicated sitcom. But there
Speaker 2: was also in the mix in because it was Channel two, right, Tawny,
Speaker 2: did you watch Channel two? Did we have chance TVU?
Speaker 2: I don't like the mad that it was too U
Speaker 2: suf based far out, too far. We had more like
Speaker 2: Sacramento channels.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, where the fog ends, right the.
Speaker 1: TV signal changes when the fog is gone. Well, but we.
Speaker 2: Basically basically I had a I think I have a
Speaker 2: cannon uh knowledge of the first Star Trek because we
Speaker 2: watched it. We would not stop watching TV even if
Speaker 2: we didn't like what we were watching, because you didn't
Speaker 2: want to stop watching TV. So I've seen every single
Speaker 2: Star Trek of the original series multiple times because it
Speaker 2: was just on reruns on Channel two forever and it
Speaker 2: was on after cartoons, so you're just like, we'll wait
Speaker 2: through this and then the something else good Will come
Speaker 2: on after or whatever. So I like any reference that
Speaker 2: a fan would make about a different episode, I'd just
Speaker 2: be like, oh, yeah, that one that weird planet they
Speaker 2: went to where kids were in charge.
Speaker 1: Really I remember, okay, like I all of them.
Speaker 3: Actually, I remember that one that so creepy. I really
Speaker 3: didn't like it for me. The Mash.
Speaker 4: I watched episodes of MASH and that that theme song
Speaker 4: which is so depressing even without the lyrics, which are
Speaker 4: indeed depressing, But that meant my parents were coming home.
Speaker 4: My mom would start vacuuming immediately. It was time for
Speaker 4: me to be told what to do around the house.
Speaker 4: Had I had my couple hours after school before my
Speaker 4: parents got home, and matched that MASH theme song meant
Speaker 4: that was the end of it, and I didn't want
Speaker 4: it to end, so I would.
Speaker 3: Sit through MASH. Yeah, a procedural.
Speaker 4: I never enjoyed an episode of MASH, and I think
Speaker 4: I've probably seen all of them.
Speaker 5: Oh that is so real, sitting through something just so
Speaker 5: that you didn't have to go to bed. I think
Speaker 5: that's why I watched like all of Married with Children
Speaker 5: when I.
Speaker 1: Was far too young to be watching that, just.
Speaker 5: Because I was like if I don't sit here silently,
Speaker 5: I'll have to go to bed.
Speaker 1: Oh that's so terrific. So that's lower decks. Yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: Parent with Anyway and Paramount Plus, which is the streaming
Speaker 1: channel that seems to be coming.
Speaker 2: Out ahead these days. Yeah, in the streaming wars. Who knows,
Speaker 2: I don't know these streaming wars.
Speaker 5: Have you all taken up arms and are you prepared
Speaker 5: to defend your master in the streaming wars?
Speaker 2: I'm choosing the Paramount Plus is my master. Just because
Speaker 2: Netflix is going into the shitter. Wow, Okay, their numbers
Speaker 2: are way down. We know what happened to HBO Max.
Speaker 2: That's true, you know, like I have been.
Speaker 3: Weeding themselves out.
Speaker 4: I'm an Apple TV guy just because there's only ten
Speaker 4: shows on there, and I feel like I have a
Speaker 4: nice control over. I've seen everything on It's insane to
Speaker 4: me that there's I'm like, that's it. That's all Apple TV.
Speaker 4: And if you're listening Apple TV, I'm very sorry.
Speaker 3: I'm not. I'm just there's not a lot of shows
Speaker 3: on there.
Speaker 1: You've seen everything, You've seen the Fraggle Rock reboot.
Speaker 3: Of course. I started watching it and abruptly stopped.
Speaker 1: I'm just checking. Sorry, sorry to be a well actually.
Speaker 4: Guy, I want to see what the dozers look like,
Speaker 4: if they were still the same little that was my favorite,
Speaker 4: the miniature construction workers.
Speaker 3: That was my favorite thing, the dozers.
Speaker 1: They're really cute.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they were adorable.
Speaker 5: I am prepared to defend my master Paramount Bluss, so
Speaker 5: I will be on the front lines with you, Karen Nice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, good, because it's it's the best choice.
Speaker 4: Is there anything else coming out? I notice you're playing
Speaker 4: Mariah Carey in something and that got me excited.
Speaker 3: But you don't have to talk about it if you
Speaker 3: don't want to.
Speaker 5: It's not I don't know what that. That was a
Speaker 5: favor I did for Paul Shecher. He's say, can you
Speaker 5: come to the valley? Can you come to Chats on
Speaker 5: a one hundred and ten degree day and dresses Mariah
Speaker 5: Carey for time?
Speaker 3: Okay, gotcha.
Speaker 1: I don't know what it was.
Speaker 4: For all I knew it was like a biopice Okay, cool, cool, wow, No,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 2: That's just a reflection of what good research on the
Speaker 2: least does for us, where she's like, here's some interesting things.
Speaker 3: To talk about.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, And then I try and find my
Speaker 4: own stuff, and I I dropped that Mariah Carey steamer there.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, everybody.
Speaker 5: Good. Look, I wish if anyone's listening and you have
Speaker 5: the rights to Mariah Carey's story, I am available.
Speaker 1: I cannot sing like her, but I will do it.
Speaker 4: No, you're sick, you're six. You're close to seven octaves, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got at least that's three.
Speaker 3: That's all I know about Mariah Carey is she is
Speaker 3: seven octave singer.
Speaker 1: Three is closer to seven than one, So that you're right.
Speaker 1: It rounds up, it rounds up. It's sure. No.
Speaker 5: I just did a few episodes on Physical, your favorite
Speaker 5: on Apple, your favorite streamers, so that's super fun. But
Speaker 5: no other than the strange New World's crossover episode that
Speaker 5: I'm super pumped about. Yeah, live action track is where
Speaker 5: it's at. Man. I was like, man, if I could
Speaker 5: just show up to work every day and work on
Speaker 5: a bridge and move fake buttons and sliders and stuff,
Speaker 5: that's a dream.
Speaker 4: We're pretending that you froze for a second. We're pretending
Speaker 4: it didn't happen. But I have to address it. I
Speaker 4: always have to because we didn't hear what you said,
Speaker 4: but I just had to say something. Karen backed me up.
Speaker 4: She was frozen.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: And also what she was basically saying, which I think
Speaker 2: by context clues now tell me if I'm right or wrong,
Speaker 2: is that it was really fun to be on the
Speaker 2: live action Star Trek version that you were doing because
Speaker 2: you got to actually be on the set.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's the dream. That was the dream.
Speaker 5: And you both did pass my test. Thank you for
Speaker 5: I do this test with everyone. I intentionally freeze and
Speaker 5: then I make us out what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: Are you listening? Do you care?
Speaker 4: You just kept your body very still. That was amazing
Speaker 4: physical comedy work. Wow, that was amazing.
Speaker 1: I studied under mister bean.
Speaker 3: Oh Rowan.
Speaker 1: This was a I think I would give this a
Speaker 1: B plus. If not an A plus.
Speaker 3: Wow, well but yeah, no A minus though plus.
Speaker 2: So I feel like as is insulting. It's like either
Speaker 2: let's do this thing or let's.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going to say it was an A. You
Speaker 3: were terrific, Tony, I.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agraad have not.
Speaker 5: I don't have a rating system. I'm kind of like
Speaker 5: more of a monossory type podcaster. Sure, so I'm just
Speaker 5: gonna give you guys, like a learning, like a sunshine
Speaker 5: and like a beautiful original song.
Speaker 1: That's that's how it fell to me.
Speaker 3: I love I love stickers and yeah and me and.
Speaker 1: So that's what this was.
Speaker 4: So thank you you've been listening to Do You Need
Speaker 4: a Ride?
Speaker 3: D y n they are. This has been an exactly
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Speaker 1: Produced by Analise Nelson.
Speaker 3: Mixed by John Bradley.
Speaker 1: Our talent booker is Patrick Cottner.
Speaker 3: Theme song by Karen Kilgarret.
Speaker 1: Artwork by Chris Fairbanks.
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