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Speaker 1: Are you leading? I? You want your way back home?

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Speaker 2: Either way, we want to be there. Doesn't matter how

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Speaker 1: We want to send you off inside. We wanna welcome

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Speaker 1: you back home. Tell us all about it. We scared her?

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Speaker 1: Was it fine?

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Speaker 2: Malborn?

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Speaker 1: Do you need to ride? Do you need to ride?

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Speaker 1: Do you need to ride? Do you need to ride?

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Speaker 1: Do you need to ride? Do your need you ride?

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Speaker 3: Ride?

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Speaker 2: Do you need.

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Speaker 3: With Karen and Chris? Welcome to Do you need to ride?

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Speaker 1: This is Chris Fairbanks and this is Karen Tilgareff.

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Speaker 3: Hello, my friend Karen.

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Speaker 1: Hello Chris, how are you?

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Speaker 4: Did you do anything today prior to this recording? I

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Speaker 4: would like just business things, business things.

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Speaker 2: Zoom calls, you know, nothing really that exciting or fun.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I g but thank you for asking.

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Speaker 4: Of course, you know I always want to give you

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Speaker 4: the chance before I, you know, steamroll it with my

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Speaker 4: possible snoozefest of a story. But I think it's actually

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Speaker 4: a good one.

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Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 2: I think this one's good because I just saw it

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Speaker 2: on Twitter. The Is it about the people sending you

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Speaker 2: pictures from your old newspaper?

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Speaker 3: No? But that's something.

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Speaker 4: At least there's finally proof that they used to put

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Speaker 4: my home address. Yes, everything a kidnapper would need and

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Speaker 4: the prime kidnapping time of the early eighties.

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Speaker 2: Just so everyone, if you haven't heard, which I feel

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Speaker 2: like we've talked about this one hundred times, but in

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Speaker 2: his hometown newspaper as a child in Missoula, Montana many

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Speaker 2: time times, multiple times, probably under the age of twelve,

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Speaker 2: and several times from his memory when he would talk

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Speaker 2: and his address and his parents' names. And somebody actually

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Speaker 2: found these pictures and like a newspaper, like, what's the

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Speaker 2: word for it, clipping?

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Speaker 1: No, No, the online Library.

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Speaker 4: Of Newspapers Crowfiche, I think, yeah, somehow they found it

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Speaker 4: and some digitized what I could not find because I

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Speaker 4: for weeks if all I knew was it was nineteen eighty.

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Speaker 4: So I was like, that's the juice thing worth the squeeze, right,

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Speaker 4: But someone.

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Speaker 1: But a listener did it right? Did it instead?

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Speaker 4: And I thought at this point I thought I'd just

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Speaker 4: been making up that. I'm like, maybe I was wrong,

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Speaker 4: Maybe my address wasn't put in there, but it's there,

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Speaker 4: and it's amazing that I'm here today.

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Speaker 1: It's amazing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, great job.

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Speaker 2: But also this listener found four items from the newspaper.

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Speaker 2: One was a picture of Chris as like a twelve

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Speaker 2: year old or a ten year old reading to an

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Speaker 3: I forgot about that one.

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Speaker 2: Amazing and very touching. There was a poem that Chris

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Speaker 2: wrote that was really good, a lot of mentions of blood. Yes,

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Speaker 2: and I thought, I was it's about the color red.

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Speaker 1: It's about the color red.

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Speaker 4: I just kept reminding the reader, blood is red. Hey,

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Speaker 4: it's what we're made of.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Then's two pieces of art, one a little more

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Speaker 3: Dog, a dog with a Santa hat.

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Speaker 1: Precious.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it was nice to see it again.

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Speaker 4: I feel like as a kid because I'm confronted about

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Speaker 4: And I was about to bow out or just say, hey,

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Speaker 3: And I just was listening. It's very good, like I

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Speaker 4: And so anyway, I'm already influence by today's guest. I'm

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Speaker 4: Great all songs that I could barely annunciate quickly enough

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Speaker 2: Well, Chris, you do it every time you start the intro,

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Speaker 4: Okay, Well, speaking of today's guest, we might as well

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Speaker 4: let her in.

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Speaker 1: Because that's who we were actually talking about.

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Speaker 3: Clubs in colleges. No, I'm kidding. She is a well

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Speaker 4: She's in a lot of shows that I love. She's

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Speaker 4: in a band that I mentioned called Four Lost Souls.

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Speaker 4: She's got multiple podcasts, she's a former rodeo champion. Landed

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Speaker 4: her now for our guest today, Tawny Knewsome, Thank you.

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Speaker 5: I do want to set the record straight. I am

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Speaker 5: a former Rodeo Future Champion. That was the ribbon that

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Speaker 1: They called us future champions.

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Speaker 2: I was kind of like everybody participated participation trophy.

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Speaker 1: Well, hey, you can't.

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Speaker 5: You can't win if you don't play, And I consider

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Speaker 4: Okay, do you ever wonder what your life would be

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Speaker 4: like if you just contigue, You didn't start, You didn't

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Speaker 4: go to Chicago and start doing improv, you stuck with rodeo.

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Speaker 3: Do you ever have dreams.

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Speaker 4: About man where you could have taken the rodeo circuit.

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Speaker 5: I think I would have dominated and been the most

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Speaker 5: toxic bit you've ever met. Yes, can you imagine me

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Speaker 2: Well, because there is that kind there's that piece of rodeo.

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Speaker 2: In my opinion, back before I had any awareness about

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Speaker 2: In the eighties, sure, and it just seemed so glamorous

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Speaker 5: And there's like a big discussion how sparkle.

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Speaker 1: It was going to be.

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Speaker 5: And I think that's ultimately what took me out of

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Speaker 1: This feels like a pageant and that is creepy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a horse pageant. Oh yeah.

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Speaker 4: And they get no say in what color their hooves

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Speaker 1: No, they have thoughts and feelings.

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Speaker 3: And style, they have their they want to express themselves.

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Speaker 1: Right, nobody asked the horse, ask the horse.

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Speaker 4: I can see the power going as a rodeo person

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that power would go to my head.

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Speaker 5: I have one little jump rope that controls up fifteen

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's insane. That's gonna make you a super villain.

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Speaker 2: And those barrel racers, like they basically go around those

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Speaker 2: seriously difficult, dangerous, unbelievable, amazing thing to compete in.

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Speaker 4: It's it's big, and as you round that barrel, you

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Speaker 5: I think we'd all right now, we'd all make great

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Speaker 5: rodeo clowns. I think that's the only if I had

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Speaker 5: back into the biz, that's the only position I want.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: That's wouldn't it be the most I would rather be

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Speaker 2: in the color guard, right, because then you just you're

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Speaker 2: only holding onto that flag with one hand, right.

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Speaker 5: Oh, no, you're doing choreography with the flag. Yeah, you

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Speaker 5: like travel soccer meets like the most rescue dog mom

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Speaker 5: rescue list of rescue dogs. So it brings out that

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Speaker 5: kind of person. It's it's a toxic world and I

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Speaker 5: miss it. But I've found my own new toxic world

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Speaker 5: and it's called comedy. So yeah, I feel much more

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Speaker 4: There comedy, and there's a little chance of who the

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Speaker 4: do you know? With comedy you can't get gord.

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Speaker 1: That's very true, well emotionally or.

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Speaker 4: A competitive flag girl next to you, she might poke

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Speaker 4: it with her stick, with her flag stick.

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Speaker 1: With her flag called both they called verbal flagstick. Yeah, huh.

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Speaker 4: I found the best your glamour shot from I maybe

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Speaker 4: it's for color Guard, but you had the gold fringe.

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Speaker 4: It's like, oh my goodness, the most perfect photo. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I did a little You're going at glamour. It is

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Speaker 4: a oh it's foggy on the edges. It's a beautiful.

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Speaker 4: It's very everything a glamour shot needs.

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Speaker 1: What tona can?

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Speaker 2: I just ask you, how did you get into rodeo? Like,

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Speaker 2: where are you from? And what is that?

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Speaker 1: What led you?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I grew up in Vaccaville, California, which is you know

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Speaker 5: for Pedaluma.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know you are moments away. Oh man.

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Speaker 5: We wanted to be as cool as Pedaluma. We wanted

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Speaker 5: to be like foggy and mysterious. We were just hot,

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Speaker 5: and we had an onion festival, so it.

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Speaker 2: Was not.

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Speaker 3: Just every day onions.

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Speaker 1: Just so many onions.

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Speaker 5: We did have an outlet mall No, but so Vacaval's

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Speaker 5: kind of like a little like Vacco's a little country,

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Speaker 5: even though it's close to the Bay Area. It's very

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Speaker 5: like conservative, it's very it's very horsey. So there was

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Speaker 5: just like horseshit to be doing. My mom like made

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 5: I feel like we were in that phase of like

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Speaker 5: single mom and me, Like she was like looking for

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Speaker 5: hobbies all the time. So it was like karate for

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Speaker 5: ten minutes, clarinet for a second. Maybe we're really into

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Speaker 5: aquariums right now? Okay, now horses and I just started

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Speaker 5: taking lessons and you know, we were what I like

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Speaker 5: to call horse poor, which means you always kind of

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Speaker 5: like had this community of people who were trading animals

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Speaker 5: around based on who could afford to feed them at

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Speaker 5: the time.

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Speaker 1: So we weren't really like buying a lot of like horses.

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Speaker 5: We were more just like, oh, well, you know, Audrey

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Speaker 5: can't take care of Jay anymore, so you're gonna get

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Speaker 5: to ride Jay for a while. So then I just

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Speaker 5: kind of learned and was not great hence the future

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Speaker 5: champion of it all, but developed a real affection for

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Speaker 5: the animals.

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Speaker 1: They're sweet, sweet animals.

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Speaker 3: It would be hard to ride Jay for a little while.

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Speaker 4: And then you gotta take the horse back and remove

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Speaker 4: all the polish on its whos And because you want

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Speaker 4: to have your own horse.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you got to strip the varnish off when you

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Speaker 1: give the horse.

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Speaker 4: Sure, you always gotta strip the horse. It's called not

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Speaker 4: ride rode all day and hung up wet. That's it's

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Speaker 4: a varnish reference. A lot of people don't know that.

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Speaker 2: I actually when I was like I think about seven

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Speaker 2: or eight, because my aunt and uncle who lived next

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Speaker 2: a one evening where my mom was particularly tired from work,

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Speaker 2: and I almost convinced her to get to let me

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Speaker 2: have a horse because my aunt had the acreage and

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Speaker 2: it was the same thing where like we were in

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Speaker 2: four h so there was it would have been not

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Speaker 2: hard to acquire. Although I had no concept of the

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Speaker 2: how truly expensive.

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Speaker 1: I mean like it's just next level. It's next level.

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Speaker 2: And my cousin Stevie, who was like five years older

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Speaker 2: than me, he was like a champion sage rider. So

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Speaker 2: I was like, well, I'll just start doing what Stevie's doing.

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Speaker 1: He can teach me. And like the I don't know

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Speaker 1: however I did it.

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Speaker 2: I almost she was like actually considering it in front

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Speaker 2: of me, which I knew meant we were way further

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Speaker 2: down the decision chain. Like you know when you start

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Speaker 2: learning how to really manipulate your mom and you're just like, oh,

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Speaker 2: I've almost got her here.

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Speaker 1: This is amazing.

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Speaker 2: It was teach me to be so responsible yet I

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Speaker 2: mean coming out with bullshit or it's just like, of course,

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Speaker 2: i'll take care of it.

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Speaker 1: Every day, I'm already doing blah blah blah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I right as I watched her almost say yes,

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Speaker 2: I was like this is insane.

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Speaker 1: She's listening to me.

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Speaker 2: Like I came into this awareness of like I can

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Speaker 2: actually make her do stuff that I want to do. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but then ultimately she the next day, you know, somehow

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Speaker 2: my dad got in the conversation.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, was hell no, she.

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Speaker 5: Came to her senses or she watched you, like, say

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Speaker 5: you were going to vacuum for two weeks straight and

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Speaker 5: then not do it, and she was like, yes, child, cannot.

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Speaker 1: Have a horse.

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Speaker 2: There's no way because they're also you have to know, uh,

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Speaker 2: it's not a casual animal to.

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Speaker 1: Have the least or casual animal.

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Speaker 5: Maybe maybe crocodile maybe, but like after that, I think

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Speaker 5: it's worse for most maintenance least casual. A horse is

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Speaker 5: semi formal at all times. Cocktail is semi formal at

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Speaker 1: Zero cash, yeah.

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Speaker 4: Real, but yeah, like but with crocodiles, there's a whole

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Speaker 4: lifestyle that yeah did here.

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Speaker 1: To Crocodiles are black tie for sure.

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Speaker 4: For sure, you got to wear those a safari type hat.

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Speaker 2: Yep. Yeah, the tension never goes down, like you're not

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Speaker 2: always scared, always.

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Speaker 1: Always on a high alert.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I find it amazing because I grew up in Montana,

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Speaker 4: and all of Montana is fairly rural, and I always

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Speaker 4: had access to horses, and I never once sat on

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Speaker 4: a horse until I moved to Los Angeles and just

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Speaker 4: talked into taking polo lessons. Oh interesting, and these horses

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Speaker 4: are so well trained that and I'm terrible on a horse.

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Speaker 4: I know, for how because of how sore I was

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Speaker 4: for days, like I couldn't walk. But I swung the mallet.

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Speaker 4: I think I've talked about this before, and I missed

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Speaker 4: the ball and I hit the horse in the chin

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Speaker 4: and the horse and I'm like, I'm so sorry, and

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Speaker 4: I swear he said something to the effect of it's okay,

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Speaker 4: it happens all the time, and then he kicked the

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Speaker 4: ball for me, as if to be like, oh you

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Speaker 4: did that, good job, sir. Yeah, it knew it knew

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Speaker 4: it was dealing with amateurs. But I felt so bad,

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Speaker 4: and I never I haven't been on a horse since

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Speaker 4: I've been on a horse.

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Speaker 1: Idea of the horse kicking the ball for you.

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Speaker 3: Out of the kid.

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Speaker 4: I missed the ball and the horse kicked it with

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Speaker 4: his back foot and was like, oh, yeah, we're doing

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Speaker 4: it now, and like you did that for me.

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Speaker 5: See that horse knows that all of these lessons are

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Speaker 5: ninety minutes long, and like the the Sooner, he could

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Speaker 5: just keep you moving, keep you happy, keep you from

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Speaker 5: doing something weird.

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Speaker 1: Ask for him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he was making it easy on himself.

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Speaker 4: God, I hope that horse really did accept my apology.

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Speaker 1: I think so. I think most of them do.

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Speaker 4: You're a true cowboy. The day that you know a

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Speaker 4: horse accepted your apology. I've always said that.

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Speaker 1: Yep, it's a code. It's a code amongst us.

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Speaker 2: Do you feel like your experience in the rodeo has

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Speaker 2: informed your later career in comedy, Like do you think

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Speaker 2: that you learned any lessons in your early rodeo, because

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Speaker 2: I would say that would be like first passive show business.

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Speaker 2: That's about a show business. I mean I mentioned shots.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you're right. Taught me to take a bang

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Speaker 5: Just a real ripper of a fuzzy edged picture.

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Speaker 3: Is a good one.

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Speaker 5: Probably helped me navigate, you know, a toxic climber type.

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Speaker 5: I definitely think that, you know, that was my first

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Speaker 5: taste of because I didn't play any other like sports.

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Speaker 5: I didn't do any other like really activities other than

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Speaker 5: like drama club and my drama people were pretty chill,

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Speaker 5: so this probably was my first taste of like, oh,

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Speaker 5: hierarchy and you know that sort of social thing that

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Speaker 5: I in competition.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like it's deeply competitive.

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Speaker 1: Yeah right, so that probably trained me for improvisors, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's for sure.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 2: And also I would think just anything having to do

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Speaker 2: like that being aware of the thing that you're most

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Speaker 2: of us are raised of, like ultimately you have to

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Speaker 2: be a good person, and it's like, well, then why

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Speaker 2: is the rich girl who's not a good person in

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Speaker 5: Like yeah, yeah, And there became a little bit of

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Speaker 5: a weird thing too, where we were exchanging work a

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Speaker 5: lot of times for lessons, so I was like doing

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Speaker 5: I was trading, like you know, working in our trainers'

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Speaker 5: the dynamic just gets weird because you're like not on

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Speaker 5: the same footing as everyone else, and ultimately just it

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Speaker 5: it became too expensive and my heart wasn't super in it.

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Speaker 1: So I think my mom was like.

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Speaker 5: This is a lot we're gonna We're gonna move to

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, of course.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, I don't know why horses going eat so early.

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Speaker 5: They should try intermitt in fasting or something.

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Speaker 3: It's very annoying.

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Speaker 2: Can they don't if you don't feed them, they'll like

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Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I took care of you, go out. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I took care of our neighbors horses.

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Speaker 2: And I was in fifth grade, I think, or either

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Speaker 1: But it was a full time It was like a

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Speaker 2: I had to go in the morning and I had

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Speaker 1: And it sucked.

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Speaker 2: So it was so much work that eventually I was

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I think it gave me a real aversion to chores,

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Speaker 5: which is not great to be like an adult woman

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Speaker 5: now and not enjoying chores. But it's because I did

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Speaker 5: the like my share of them. I feel like in

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Speaker 5: like nineteen ninety eight, So I don't wanna do anymore?

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Speaker 3: What is the event called? And I did?

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Speaker 4: I have vague memories of doing this, but me and

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Speaker 4: four grown men chased a baby was it a sheep?

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Speaker 4: And I held a bucket and they tried to milk

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Speaker 4: the sheep and I just was crying. I was crying

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Speaker 4: because I was horrified and I felt bad. The animal

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Speaker 4: was screaming. But I held a bucket and they shot

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Speaker 4: milk into it, and then I remember we we did

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Speaker 4: not win.

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Speaker 3: That's what is that event? Is that knowing event? I

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Speaker 3: don't know.

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Speaker 1: I know so many white things, and I don't know

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Speaker 1: what that is.

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Speaker 3: I'm so sorry.

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Speaker 1: I really like, I really know a lot of white things.

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Speaker 5: You can ask me about Star Trek, you can ask

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Speaker 5: me about talking heads and I'll go deep.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know what this sheep milk bucketshit is.

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Speaker 1: I'm so sorry.

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Speaker 4: It was It's just was an exercise in me learning

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Speaker 4: to say no.

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Speaker 3: I think is what that was good?

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Speaker 2: I almost like a county some sort of county fair event.

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Speaker 3: It was not a main event. It was after the

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Speaker 3: kids on sheep.

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Speaker 4: It was one of the sure and then you you

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Speaker 4: legs and the sheep did not enjoy it. And then

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00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,920
Speaker 4: to add insult injury, we were starting yanking on that

451
00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:32,640
Speaker 4: sweet animals utters and and I just want to apologize

452
00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,040
Speaker 4: not only to that horse, but to that sheep.

453
00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:36,320
Speaker 1: If you're listening, they can't.

454
00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:39,520
Speaker 3: I'm very sure you don't think we have any sheep listeners.

455
00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,720
Speaker 2: You never know, you not that one, not the one

456
00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,000
Speaker 2: that matters, not the one that needs to hear it.

457
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,480
Speaker 4: When were you in they talking Heads tribute band?

458
00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:51,879
Speaker 3: Or how long did that last?

459
00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,040
Speaker 1: Jump? I gotta talk. I gotta talk about it on

460
00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:56,040
Speaker 1: every podcast they do.

461
00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:56,600
Speaker 3: I got to.

462
00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,840
Speaker 1: I get the word out. The people got to know.

463
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:07,879
Speaker 5: I did that from maybe like twenty ten to twenty

464
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:11,280
Speaker 5: twelve or something like that. But they were some friends

465
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,359
Speaker 5: of mine in Chicago who have a lot of different bands,

466
00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,480
Speaker 5: but at the time they were doing a Talking Heads

467
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,399
Speaker 5: tribute and they needed an extra singer to come and

468
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,200
Speaker 5: be good to old Lynn Maybry and they're stop making

469
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 5: sense recreation, and we did it and.

470
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:25,400
Speaker 1: It was super fun.

471
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:27,199
Speaker 5: So we like recreated the whole thing with like the

472
00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,880
Speaker 5: lights and the costumes and it was a dream. So yeah,

473
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 5: kind of toreed around at them for a while learned

474
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 5: all the songs is Chicago?

475
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:38,280
Speaker 4: How you got connected with Four Lost Souls that band?

476
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,639
Speaker 5: Yeah, so that was so I was doing a play

477
00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:46,920
Speaker 5: based on the music and writing of John Langford, who's

478
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:50,479
Speaker 5: a founding member of UK band The me Cons, and

479
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 5: I did this like two person play and it was

480
00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,240
Speaker 5: weird and strange, but John would like come to the

481
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:59,320
Speaker 5: rehearsals and so then John and I became friends from that,

482
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,239
Speaker 5: and then I just started working with him on his

483
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 5: solo records, and I think it was after I'd moved

484
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 5: to LA he started working with another close friend of

485
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,640
Speaker 5: mine who've made a lot of music with Bethany Thomas,

486
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 5: and they we got invited to go down to Muscle Shoals,

487
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 5: Alabama and record down there. So we just kind of

488
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 5: like compiled. I don't know, it's like composites. All these

489
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,639
Speaker 5: bands are just sort of like composits of the same people,

490
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 5: different you know, organizations, orders of the same folks, just

491
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 5: rearranged and then you put out a record and you

492
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,359
Speaker 5: tour behind it a little bit and then you reshuffle

493
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:33,200
Speaker 5: and start over.

494
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 4: Are all of those people in that band in LA

495
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,360
Speaker 4: or do you have to travel to play with them?

496
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 1: No, they're all in Chicago. But we also like don't rehearse.

497
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 5: We just kind of like we get together when we're

498
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 5: going to record, and you know, we play some gigs

499
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:49,119
Speaker 5: and we work out some demos kind of remotely. But

500
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,880
Speaker 5: I mean John's been doing it so long and I've

501
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,920
Speaker 5: never really known him to be one to rehearse much

502
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:59,199
Speaker 5: of anything. So yeah, we all just kind of we

503
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 5: just kind of figured it out in the studio, which

504
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:02,120
Speaker 5: is a luxury for sure.

505
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, and also the me Cons are such a legendary band.

506
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 2: I'm sure he has an audience that shows up and

507
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:09,480
Speaker 2: supports no matter what.

508
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that's saying like i'd watch someone read the

509
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,920
Speaker 5: phone book, like I think I've literally seen Langford read

510
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 5: part of a phone book like he He was the

511
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 5: efficient at my wedding, and oh wow, I told him,

512
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,680
Speaker 5: you know, my husband never like, we want a short ceremony,

513
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,159
Speaker 5: we don't want much, and he's, you know, he's one

514
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 5: of my best friends, and so I was like, you know, us,

515
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 5: well just say whatever. I was like, we want like

516
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,199
Speaker 5: eight minutes long. So he literally I don't think he

517
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 5: planned a single bullet point or item to say at all.

518
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 5: And when he got done, our one of our guitarists,

519
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,359
Speaker 5: Jim Elkington, came up to us and was like, that

520
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,679
Speaker 5: was a very good ceremony. But John, it felt like

521
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,959
Speaker 5: you had street names but no house numbers.

522
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 1: That became my.

523
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 5: Favorite term for like you're just kind of winging it,

524
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 5: like you know where you are, but not not super specific.

525
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,360
Speaker 1: You keep I've been down the same street going back up.

526
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 1: You're like, is it on Elder? Is it on Elder

527
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 1: or ash?

528
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 4: That is so cool that you are in that band

529
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,119
Speaker 4: and it's just one of your side projects.

530
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's it's got to be. It doesn't

531
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 1: pay enough to be the main project.

532
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 3: You I suppose, yeah, yeah, yeah.

533
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,119
Speaker 5: Being in a band, I feel like every musician I know,

534
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 5: no matter how famous they are, they're like, this is

535
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 5: a hobby.

536
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 2: Yeah God these days, especially unless there's some you guys

537
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 2: got to get on TikTok and get one of those

538
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 2: TikTok songs.

539
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,879
Speaker 5: Going, Oh my god, I feel I already feel like

540
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 5: I'm made of dust. I feel six thousand years old.

541
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 5: Every time I post a TikTok, I'm like, is this

542
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 5: what you want?

543
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:40,919
Speaker 1: Children? I don't know.

544
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 3: I yet barely.

545
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,640
Speaker 4: I just post old things like I'm trying to get

546
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,160
Speaker 4: one started, but I know I look at it once

547
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 4: a week.

548
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 2: I look at it, but I don't post anything. I

549
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 2: don't I don't care to be a part of it.

550
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 2: I'm just an audience member I like and you thoroughly

551
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 2: enjoy it. Yeah, I don't care to do part of it.

552
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 2: I just want to watch what all these wonderful, brilliant

553
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 2: people are doing and saying to each other. And yeah,

554
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 2: I think it's a really good version of social media,

555
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 2: the version of these that I'm seeing on my mete,

556
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 2: in my algorithm, in my feed.

557
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 1: But I just don't. Yeah, as like you said, I

558
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:22,880
Speaker 1: feel too.

559
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 2: Old, and I'm not trying to like like Chris Chris,

560
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,360
Speaker 2: you know, like here's my stand up comedy. You can

561
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,920
Speaker 2: come and see different pieces of it. You can also

562
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 2: share it with your friends or whatever. Like, I just

563
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 2: don't really have anything like that.

564
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, it took me a while to realize that was

565
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 4: part of Tikknok and it wasn't just lip syncing and dancing.

566
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 4: And at Yeah night I realized that. I was like, oh,

567
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 4: there's a bunch of comics. I know that I have

568
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 4: more people coming to their shows now because of TikTok, right,

569
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 4: which it's like, am I going to miss out on this?

570
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 4: Just like that YouTube craze.

571
00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:58,679
Speaker 3: That I thought would go away.

572
00:26:58,560 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 1: Thought would blow over.

573
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 5: I also, when someone was telling me you you should

574
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 5: really got on TikTok, I was like, I don't want

575
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,159
Speaker 5: to do a bunch of like Torso dances.

576
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,159
Speaker 1: I don't want to say that it's all just Torso.

577
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 5: These children they don't have a hip to shake to

578
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,120
Speaker 5: save their life in this generation, and so they're just

579
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 5: flailing their arms and I was like, I can't do that.

580
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,400
Speaker 5: But then I realized it was a good spot for

581
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 5: BTS stuff for Star Trek because there's so much cute

582
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 5: shit that happens that we do with Star Trek that

583
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 5: I was like, Oh, this is a place to put

584
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 5: this and I can just make it.

585
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 1: That and not worry about it.

586
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 5: And I also look at it about once a week,

587
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 5: so I feel like we've reached a we've reached.

588
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 1: A stasis me and TikTok.

589
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's perfect for are you multiple characters on that.

590
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 4: It's an animated Star Trek show, right, forgive me, I

591
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 4: know that much about it.

592
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's Star Trek Lord Decks and it is. Yeah,

593
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 5: we're the first Star Trek comedy. We're the first animated comedy,

594
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 5: and we're starting season three that drops like this week,

595
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 5: depending on when people hear it. But no, I mainly

596
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 5: just play Mariner and then occasionally there will be like

597
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 5: a little alien somewhere that our showrunners like, do you

598
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,160
Speaker 5: got like a weird voice for this little guy?

599
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 1: We didn't cast this, And I'm like, sure, that's great. Yeah,

600
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 1: gotta love an animated job. Man, Oh I love it.

601
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 1: I love it so good.

602
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's another way I'm so envious of you. It's

603
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 4: the sweetest gig ever. I don't know why I always

604
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 4: say you show up in your sweat pants. I don't

605
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 4: know why that seems so luxurious to me. You don't

606
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 4: have to worry about the pants.

607
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 5: You don't have to worry about the pants. People aren't

608
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 5: thinking about the pants. I have noticed, like my footwear

609
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 5: is really important in there, though. You have to be

610
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 5: very comfortable because you are kind of like standing and

611
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 5: I can get a little lock need because I'm like

612
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 5: staying there for four hours just screaming at a fast pace.

613
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 5: But other than that, there's no other like wardrobe requirements.

614
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 5: What's wild is a couple of us from lower decks

615
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 5: just got to They just like announced this, So I'm

616
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 5: new to being able to talk about it because it's

617
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 5: been such a secret for so long. But they just

618
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 5: put a couple of us in the live action show

619
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 5: Strange New World. So we got to bring our animated

620
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 5: characters to life and I got to like put on

621
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 5: the uniform and do it for real. And that was

622
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 5: fucking weird because I'm used to just standing in a

623
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 5: booth and flailing and being in my sweatpants and so

624
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 5: suddenly be like, I'm in the uniform and I have

625
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 5: to think about how I stand and the badge and everything.

626
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 1: It was a trip, but it was really fun.

627
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is so exciting.

628
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 2: That's I wonder it was the director like, were you

629
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 2: getting a specific kind of note about your performance that

630
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 2: had that was reflective of your voiceover performance.

631
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 5: So the director was Jonathan Frakes, who, for any Trekkies,

632
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 5: Noah's Riker.

633
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: So we were like geeked at.

634
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm a lifelong Trekie, so I was geeked

635
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 5: the hell out when I heard that it was freaks

636
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 5: doing it. And so we had a couple of meetings

637
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 5: before we started rolling, and he was just like, you know,

638
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 5: we want to like figure out the tone because Strange

639
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 5: New Worlds is very much like a an adventure Star

640
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 5: Trek show. They are funny, but they're not outright a comedy.

641
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 5: And I was like, yeah, I don't want to come

642
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 5: in here just like a cannon of bits, a water

643
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 5: cannon of bits and jokes and like bulldoze over their

644
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 5: kind of delicate show. So we kind of had to

645
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 5: like figure out the pace and everything. But I think

646
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 5: it found a really good place under his direction because

647
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 5: he's he's so Star Trek and he's so funny, and

648
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 5: that whole cast is funny and great.

649
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 1: So yeah, it was.

650
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 5: It was an adjustment, but I think we worked it out.

651
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 5: I don't know, we'll see in twenty twenty five or

652
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 5: whenever the hell it comes out.

653
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, having a job like that with a Star Trek

654
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 4: is probably scary getting because the fans are so watching

655
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 4: hard and they're so dedicated. It's like a whole scene

656
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 4: that you're I would hate to mess that up.

657
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 3: In my mind.

658
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,479
Speaker 4: I would feel like, oh, they're going to see right

659
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 4: through me, and I'm not going to be treky enough

660
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 4: for the fans.

661
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 1: Oh I mean, I will.

662
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 5: I guess I'm a little lucky because I'm just as

663
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 5: bad as they are. So I'm bat bring it, you,

664
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 5: bunch of nerds. I am you. You're not going to

665
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 5: point out anything I didn't already send my showrunner a

666
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 5: feverish midnight email about being like, oh, I'm the continuentity.

667
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 5: Doesn't make sense because in Deep Space nine this happened.

668
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 5: Do y'all have anything like that? Or you like Star

669
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 5: Wars heads or Marvel heads? Do you like a fandom?

670
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 3: I'm not, and it's weird.

671
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 4: I'm always surprised that I'm not into comic books because

672
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 4: I draw that way. I'm an illustrator and i like

673
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 4: that style of drawing, and I've never once owned a

674
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 4: comic book. Like people always assume that I'd be into

675
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 4: the Marvel world, but.

676
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 3: I'm just I'm not.

677
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I should be. Maybe it's never too late to

678
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 4: get into comic.

679
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 5: Trying to convince you I don't. I don't need you

680
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 5: to be into comic.

681
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 4: After we're done recording, just because I'm getting all this

682
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 4: heavy pressure from you, I'm going to go to a

683
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 4: comic book store.

684
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 1: It's really important to me as a real comic head. Myself.

685
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:56,719
Speaker 3: I knew that's why you asked.

686
00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 2: But Chris, you would say, wouldn't you say that you

687
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 2: are that way about skateboarding and skateboarders.

688
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 1: Oh?

689
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I nerd out actually the other day.

690
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 4: I and it was so embarrassing because I just went

691
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 4: to Walgreens to get toilet paper and they did that

692
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 4: thing where they just add the handles to my twenty

693
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 4: four pack of toilet paper. I'm just walking with it

694
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 4: like a briefcase out in public.

695
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 3: Mid all the day.

696
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 4: Not that people don't assume we all have bowel movements,

697
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 4: but you don't like to parade it around.

698
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 1: Like you don't briefcase it.

699
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't briefcase it.

700
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 1: Not at home.

701
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 3: I was wearing a suit too, all business.

702
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 1: In a monocle. Where'd you get that monocle?

703
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 3: Yes?

704
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 4: Yes, go I go period with my with my business people.

705
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 4: But I heard this voice. I was like, ooh, is

706
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 4: that Chris Fairbanks. I looked at it was a car

707
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 4: full of kids and p rod Paul Rodriguez, the comedian's son,

708
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 4: is a big time.

709
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 3: Pro skater that skates.

710
00:32:55,600 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 4: He has its own Nike shoe and he's very successful skateboarder.

711
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 4: And he was in the car, and he said, is

712
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 4: that Chris and I nerd it out in a way

713
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 4: that I don't think I would have.

714
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 3: If it was whatever?

715
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 4: Why do I just always say John Hamm as the example,

716
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 4: or you know, or a comedian that I look up to,

717
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 4: or any but sure, the fifteen year old in me

718
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 4: when I saw it was p rod I really nerd

719
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 4: it out and got very excited, and I finally found

720
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 4: a place to brag about it right here, So I'm glad.

721
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 1: I love that.

722
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is the place I like when somebody I like,

723
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 5: when you have a like the person that makes you

724
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 5: freak out is not in your industry.

725
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 1: I think that's right.

726
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, And oddly he is sort of connected because his

727
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 4: dad has been a stand up forever and I used

728
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 4: to work for a show where we'd interviewed skateboarders and

729
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 4: snowboarders and.

730
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 3: They were both on it together, p.

731
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 4: Rod See or Paul Rodbriggs junior and senior together. So

732
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 4: I guess that's how he knows me. But I was

733
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 4: very surprised that in track.

734
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 3: It was.

735
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,479
Speaker 4: It just made me feel really cool and yes, in

736
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,959
Speaker 4: the nerdiest way possible. I got very excited and I

737
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 4: wanted to tell people, and again, thank you for giving

738
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 4: me that chance.

739
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 5: Right now, I'm here to provide you with a platform.

740
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 5: That's what I came here to do.

741
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 3: Toank you.

742
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 1: Really well done, really really good.

743
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 3: Thank you.

744
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: Thank you for hosting this really well. That's been my show.

745
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 5: You catch every Wednesday, make.

746
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 3: Other people feel good about themselves.

747
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 2: Thank you catch us every Wednesday.

748
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: Right here on. Do you need a ride?

749
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 3: Yeah?

750
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:42,959
Speaker 1: Have you thought about turning this into a multi camp

751
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: you want to?

752
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 2: Just? Yeah, okay, great, I think that's I think that

753
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 2: will be best. That's the next move, Chris. I kind

754
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 2: of wanted your anecdote to end with you getting so

755
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 2: excited for seeing p Rod and him saying your name

756
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 2: that you then shout on the sidewalk and then.

757
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got it.

758
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 1: I worked with your briefcases.

759
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I'm holding these. I might as well,

760
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 3: you know.

761
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 4: I just looked at him and held it up and

762
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 4: said so embarrassing, and then they all drove off laughing.

763
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 3: So it worked out. It worked out. I gotta laugh

764
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 3: and they drove off, But yeah, okay, good.

765
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 4: It's very And he actually seemed happy to have spotted me.

766
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 3: Really, I don't know if I mentioned that he had pure.

767
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: Joy you follow him on social media.

768
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 4: I did him later and said it was great to

769
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 4: see you out in the streets.

770
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 3: You did, yeah, he replied.

771
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,280
Speaker 4: So now we have a little pen pal thing going anyway,

772
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 4: you know enough about me and pee Rod.

773
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 1: No, that's really cool. Look, you put yourself out there

774
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 1: right yep, And maybe we shouldry to book him on this.

775
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,760
Speaker 4: Uh, the thought had crossed my mind. He's very funny.

776
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 4: He's actually on a show called he was on that

777
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 4: that biopic about Selena. Oh, he was like a member

778
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 4: of her band, and he's starting to act in things.

779
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 4: So I know him to be an interesting, funny person.

780
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 3: So we'll talk later about other guests.

781
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's not do it in front of our current guests.

782
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 1: I'll call her book him. Okay, you come back for

783
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 1: when he's on. Yes, i'll produce the segment. Thank you. Yeah,

784
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: a movie. You know.

785
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 2: It's funny because I was trying to think of if

786
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,359
Speaker 2: I had an answer to your question of being like

787
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 2: a super fan of something. And this might be my

788
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 2: negative mind and the way I process the world around me,

789
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 2: but I always think of the things like that that

790
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 2: were forced on me by others.

791
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,240
Speaker 1: So like I had a college.

792
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:45,439
Speaker 2: Roommate who was obsessed with the Next Generation, so I've

793
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 2: seen all of them. And she also had her nerd

794
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 2: friends over who all also were obsessed with it, and

795
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 2: they would like watch it and fight and you know,

796
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 2: have these insane discussions, and there are other roommates. We

797
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 2: would literally leave the house like if that if it

798
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 2: was the night it was on when it was in syndication,

799
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 2: I feel like it was on a weekend night, like

800
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 2: maybe a Saturday or Sunday night maybe, and you would

801
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 2: all just be like, yeah, exactly, it's like let's get

802
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 2: out of here and go to Denny's while those guys

803
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 2: nerd out and just are They're so intense, And there'd

804
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 2: be like twelve people sitting around the TV like it

805
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 2: was really it all of course, pre tvo, pre anything,

806
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 2: so it was like you have to watch it real time,

807
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 2: you have to watch it as it comes on or

808
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 2: you'll miss it permanently. So I had to have a

809
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,879
Speaker 2: lot of the like viewing experience as if I've been

810
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 2: a fan of a lot of things. Because also, like

811
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 2: my ex husband was a cameraman. When Chris was interviewing

812
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 2: skateboarders on Red carpet, So like, I feel like there's

813
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 2: a bunch of things I know about, like like a

814
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 2: devoted fan, but only because I've been forced to watch

815
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 2: them by.

816
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 1: The people that I lived with.

817
00:37:56,560 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 5: You're describing kind of a non consensual fandom. You're describing

818
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,720
Speaker 5: kind of a secondhand fandom that was not your choice,

819
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 5: And I thought.

820
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 2: It's very little sister, you know what I mean, Like

821
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 2: you don't get the remote control, so you'll just watch

822
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 2: Three's Company because that's what your sister picked or whatever.

823
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 2: There's a lot of that kind of passive like, oh, well,

824
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 2: this won't be worth getting hit with a brush over.

825
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,320
Speaker 1: So forget it. I'll just let this be the decision.

826
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 4: And I would if you didn't let me occasionally bring

827
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 4: up skateboarding on this podcast, you know, I'd be coming

828
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 4: after you with that brush.

829
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 2: It would be serious to let people have their way. Yeah,

830
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:39,919
Speaker 2: I can't think of I can't think of anything nothing

831
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 2: you're super fan about, Like are you a cook? Are

832
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 2: you a I don't know why I gotta get at this.

833
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:47,839
Speaker 2: I gotta like find the thing that.

834
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 5: You're like, you know what I could annoy someone to

835
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 5: death about is this?

836
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: You know what it is?

837
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 2: And it's I mean, it's not like a it's not

838
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:57,439
Speaker 2: that interesting, but it just.

839
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 1: I really love British television.

840
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 5: Oh we're talking like a like a marchella, like a

841
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:04,720
Speaker 5: broad Church, Like are you being served?

842
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 1: What we talk in?

843
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 2: All of it is true range Like I could talk

844
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 2: about all three of those shows right now. I was

845
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 2: actually making a joke to somebody the other day about

846
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 2: how I can tell like on Prime where all the

847
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 2: shows are listed by the network or the app that

848
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 2: they're from, and there's a couple of those that they

849
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 2: don't just have British shows.

850
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: So there's like.

851
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,320
Speaker 2: Brit Box or Acorn, but they don't just have British shows.

852
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,319
Speaker 2: They also have Australian shows, and I know which ones

853
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 2: are Australian on site and I was bragging. I truly

854
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 2: didn't realize I was trying to brag. And then as

855
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 2: I was saying and I was like, what's the point

856
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 2: of talking about this right now?

857
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 1: And because Kyle, who is a guy.

858
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 2: I work with who I was telling it to, goes, Wow,

859
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 2: that's cool.

860
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 1: And then I was like, oh my god, oh my god,

861
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 1: this might be like.

862
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 2: The final step of like you know, COVID personality problem

863
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,839
Speaker 2: where it's like I actually said that, like it's interesting

864
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 2: and it is not.

865
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 5: Oh, I know, I know that feeling so well where

866
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 5: I have been explaining something about Star Trek or something

867
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 5: about some obscure band thing that I learned that I'm like,

868
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 5: surely the person across from me wants to know these details,

869
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 5: and they want to know the details behind the details

870
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 5: and how I came by the details. And then their

871
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 5: response is always just like wow, okay, and that tone

872
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,919
Speaker 5: makes me want to just I want to fold into

873
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 5: myself like a stray sock and just hide, because yeah,

874
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 5: they didn't want it.

875
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,760
Speaker 1: I would rather. I would rather they be like shut

876
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: the fuck up, or well.

877
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 2: Now that you mentioned i'm gonna take I'm gonna keep

878
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 2: an eye out. But like trying basically trying to It's

879
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 2: almost like trying to recenter the conversational vibe of out

880
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 2: of your weirdness and back up here to normal.

881
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 1: That's kind of how it feels.

882
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:58,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're like, oh, I didn't realize, okay, and I'm

883
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 2: just like, shoot, I did it again.

884
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like they're trying to have like a little palette cleanser.

885
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 5: They're trying to take a quick little shot of coffee

886
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 5: just to kind of yeah, right, let's get back to

887
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,959
Speaker 5: something we all know and to care about and want

888
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 5: to talk about. Yeah, yeah, I get that a lot.

889
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 5: And you know, I don't know that I'm going to stop.

890
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't, don't, please don't, yeah, don't ever stop right, Well,

891
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 2: because then we won't have podcasts.

892
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 1: I mean exactly what podcasts are.

893
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 5: That is what a podcast is is the thing that

894
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 5: you can't bother your friend with in person, you do

895
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 5: into a microphone.

896
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 4: Yep, were you just a guest on YO?

897
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 3: As this racist?

898
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 4: And then did I read that correctly? Then Andrew asked

899
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 4: to join you. That's a sign that you are a

900
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:45,800
Speaker 4: very good guest.

901
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 1: Right, I think she is a good guest so far.

902
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 3: I know what I'm what I'm driving at is, will

903
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 3: you please take my place?

904
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 5: On?

905
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 3: Do you need to ride?

906
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: Chris?

907
00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 3: I've run out of stories, Karen, You and I both

908
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 3: know it.

909
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 1: No, you have stories, Glow, You're still writing stories every day.

910
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 5: I'm once rewording. Also, Okay, you know I've done the research.

911
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 5: Twelve percent of every podcast is going you know. I

912
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,240
Speaker 5: may have told this story before, but and that's.

913
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 3: We have to accept that.

914
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: It's okay because there's new listeners every day.

915
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was a guest Andrew and I became friends,

916
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 5: and then I was kind of like popping off a

917
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 5: lot on Twitter. And I think he was like tired

918
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 5: because he'd been doing the show for so long by himself.

919
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 5: And you know, it's a tricky like needle to thread

920
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 5: because it's a comedy show. We take voicemails, but like

921
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 5: so he would always be alone and then having a

922
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 5: guest come on and depending on the energy of the guest,

923
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 5: y'all know how that can go.

924
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 1: It's just not always like a vibe.

925
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,280
Speaker 5: And so when you're talking about something tricky like racism

926
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 5: and trying to be funny, Yeah, not always having a

927
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 5: vibe just didn't make for the most fun experience.

928
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,280
Speaker 4: For him, and it would be exhausting to ride that line.

929
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,320
Speaker 4: And that is what I read is he said, I'm tired.

930
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 4: Will you help come and join me and help them

931
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:01,320
Speaker 4: be less tired? Yeah that's yeah, that's so great.

932
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 1: Yeah.

933
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 5: So now we kind of just, you know, we do

934
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,399
Speaker 5: it together and we don't always have guests, and we

935
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 5: have like a little we have a very lovely friendship

936
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 5: together where I'm just like happy to talk to my

937
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 5: friend each week and then marginally said that it has

938
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,320
Speaker 5: to be about racism, but you know, at least we

939
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 5: get to hang.

940
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 1: And is that podcast? I mean, I feel like it's

941
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: been around a while. Yeah, has it? When did it start?

942
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 1: Do you know? Offhand? Sorry to ask a question like that.

943
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 5: No, that's okay. I don't know the date. Maybe it

944
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 5: was like twenty twelve or thirteen.

945
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: He might have started.

946
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 5: It might have been longer ago than that, and then

947
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 5: I joined in like twenty eighteen.

948
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because I was going to ask, but I

949
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 2: didn't want to ask if you if it hadn't been

950
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 2: that long, but I felt like i'd remembered it, like, oh,

951
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 2: that's kind of one of those stallwart podcasts that like it.

952
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 2: It started and it really caught fire, and people really

953
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 2: liked that it was getting that that kind of conversation

954
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,959
Speaker 2: was getting airtime because it's like, finally, it's not white

955
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 2: people talking about well, we've decided racism is.

956
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: Over or we've decided this is okay.

957
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:08,439
Speaker 2: And it was finally like people themselves, you know, of

958
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:12,439
Speaker 2: people of color, of an experience, actually being the ones

959
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:14,959
Speaker 2: leading the discussion. And I was just going to ask,

960
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 2: do you feel like the discussion changed when we were

961
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 2: all in quarantine and when the Black Lives Matter protests

962
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 2: happened and those the big movement really kind of started

963
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 2: to see some real like right and movement real effects.

964
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 4: And racism has sort of been on parade in the

965
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 4: last couple of years.

966
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: I love that Rage against Machine song.

967
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, anytime I can'de lyric.

968
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:47,959
Speaker 1: No, No, you're absolutely right. Yeah.

969
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 5: You know, it kind of goes in waves of like

970
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 5: people's attention kind of wanting to talk about these things.

971
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 5: But definitely in the summer of twenty twenty, I mean,

972
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 5: we saw a spike in listenership, so we're like, oh, cool,

973
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 5: nice to be, you know, wartime profiteers. That feels great,

974
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 5: But it was like, what we did notice was that,

975
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 5: because you know, we're comedians primarily, we're not experts. We're

976
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 5: not like DEI diversity inclusion specialists or whatever, so we

977
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:18,320
Speaker 5: very much come from the place of like we're just

978
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 5: talking about our perspective and our experience, and we bring

979
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 5: guests on to speak from their experience. We answer these

980
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 5: wild ass voicemails that are literally things like a white

981
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 5: guy calling in and saying the taco bell near me

982
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 5: only gives me, mild sauce, Are they being racist.

983
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 1: To me because I'm white? And you know, then it

984
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 1: ranges to more serious shit too.

985
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 5: But what we noticed, what I noticed is that there

986
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 5: was much more willingness and openness to have some of

987
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 5: these conversations amongst white folks, like the conversations that I

988
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 5: would previously just kind of keep in a in a

989
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 5: black and brown group chat. Suddenly, though, like white producers

990
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 5: I worked with on set, We're wanting to talk about

991
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 5: these things. And after the initial like gag for me

992
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 5: of being like why is this? Why is this lady

993
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 5: I work for coming up and wanting to talk to

994
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,959
Speaker 5: me about you know, wealth, inequalities and gender pay gap

995
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 5: and shit like that, then I was like, great, you

996
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 5: want to talk about it, Let's dive in. And so

997
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:13,879
Speaker 5: it's definitely felt like more acceptable to have these conversations

998
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 5: like out loud, and to have more fun with them too,

999
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 5: because I think that's also important, is to not always

1000
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 5: have the conversation in like a sit down, scary, you know,

1001
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 5: HR meeting type of way, Like sometimes you got to

1002
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 5: just be able to yes, you gotta be.

1003
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 1: Able to do the goofs well.

1004
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 2: And I feel like that is such a great point

1005
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,439
Speaker 2: to make of, Like, I think people want to go

1006
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 2: to the place where they can hear about experiences or

1007
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 2: stories or call ins or whatever and just hear other

1008
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 2: people kind of theorizing or saying what they they personally think.

1009
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,399
Speaker 2: But you know, no one's an expert without that thing

1010
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 2: of I feel like what I really was fascinated by

1011
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:57,280
Speaker 2: because we're all kind of at home and just staring

1012
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 2: at our phones and our TVs and stuff, But that

1013
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 2: idea that there would be these trends where it's like

1014
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,839
Speaker 2: you were supposed to have already known this, and you

1015
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 2: could tell that there was certain white people, and I

1016
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 2: think it's probably the white people who actually really give

1017
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 2: a shit who would be real reactive. So it's like,

1018
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 2: remember that thing on There was some day where everyone

1019
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 2: on Instagram just made their icon black and just like

1020
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 2: blacked out everything, and all the activists are like.

1021
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 1: What are you doing? Who thought of this? This is

1022
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 1: the worst idea, But.

1023
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:28,319
Speaker 2: It had already gone, So everyone kind of did it

1024
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 2: because they thought this is what we're quote unquote supposed

1025
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 2: to do, but they were doing it based on kind

1026
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 2: of like a social media rumor.

1027
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 3: And yeah, clogging what could have been information.

1028
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 2: Yes, and like it was just things like that where

1029
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 2: I started watching or there was one where someone and

1030
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 2: I think these were troll moves, but who can never say.

1031
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 2: There was one where it was like white women always

1032
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 2: pick you know, like the actual people emojis. They're like

1033
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 2: they're always picking white people for their people emojis or whatever,

1034
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:03,240
Speaker 2: and you just watched every white person only use yellow,

1035
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 2: the yellow first one that.

1036
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:06,240
Speaker 1: You pick, like the Simpsons one yet.

1037
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 2: Right, And also like that is going to impact fucking

1038
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 2: like on the ground racism, you know what I mean.

1039
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 2: Like it's that thing of like everyone wants it to

1040
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 2: be that simple, like oh no, see, I use the rights, I'm.

1041
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 1: Off the hook. I'm doing good. That is funny.

1042
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 5: We do get a surprising amount of calls about those

1043
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 5: emoji colors. When those emoji colors rolled out, people were shock.

1044
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 5: People are confused. We get biracial people. I'm biracial. I

1045
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 5: identify as black because, as my dad told me when

1046
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:36,479
Speaker 5: I was a child, don't nobody care about your white side.

1047
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 1: You look black.

1048
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 5: So I use like a real a Median color. But

1049
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 5: we get biracial people who call in and they'll be

1050
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 5: like my friend told me that the color I'm using

1051
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 5: is too dark?

1052
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:48,760
Speaker 1: Am I trying to pass for lighter? Blah blah blah.

1053
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 5: And then we have white people that call in and

1054
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 5: they're like, I'm uncomfortable by all of it. I just

1055
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 5: want to put the blackest one on there, and we're.

1056
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 1: Like, no, no, no, don't do that.

1057
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 5: So I feel like I feel like our show is

1058
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 5: the good kind of like low Steaks area for people

1059
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 5: to hash out those things that are bothering them. Because

1060
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,439
Speaker 5: you're right, it doesn't mean that it's going to lead

1061
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 5: to a reduction in police brutality against black and brown people,

1062
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 5: or maybe in some incremental, tiny way of just everybody

1063
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 5: getting more comfortable with these conversations. Maybe it does. But yeah, no,

1064
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 5: we're not heroes. We're a comedy show. And truly, the

1065
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 5: voicemails are so wild. I can't I forever. I'm so

1066
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,879
Speaker 5: grateful that Andrew manages that inbox and that I don't

1067
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 5: have to dig in there and just listen to the

1068
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 5: absolute trash that people leave in there.

1069
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:32,800
Speaker 1: What a nightmare.

1070
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:34,959
Speaker 3: No, yes, do you think.

1071
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 1: That guy was being sincere about the talk about Yes?

1072
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 3: Really was.

1073
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 1: He was distressed.

1074
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 5: He was like, I just I don't want to call

1075
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 5: them out, but like they're doing this to me and

1076
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 5: I want spicy sauce.

1077
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 3: Just say it.

1078
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 5: Then he didn't want. Oh, we get a lot of

1079
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 5: scared whites. We had a lot of scared whites that

1080
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 5: are worried they don't want to tell a brown person.

1081
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 1: You know. It's a lot of that too.

1082
00:49:56,560 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to hear more of them. Are some

1083
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 3: other memorable voicemails.

1084
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:05,799
Speaker 5: That, I mean every Christmas we get the like the

1085
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 5: Zvarti Pete, you know, the black face Santa the Netherlands

1086
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 5: black Face Santa one. Yeah, and those are just like, yeah,

1087
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:14,879
Speaker 5: this sucks. I don't know what you want me to say.

1088
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 5: We get a lot of like my white coworker always

1089
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 5: wants to bring up the fact that she has a

1090
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 5: black husband. How do I gently tell her as a

1091
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 5: fellow white person, Like nobody wants to hear this.

1092
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 3: So there's a lot of like that's a good one.

1093
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 1: Navigating little weird stuff like that. Yeah, I don't know.

1094
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 5: Sometimes I hear these voicemails and they go into like

1095
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 5: a file in my brain that's like, once you're done

1096
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,320
Speaker 5: with this podcast, you never need to think about this again.

1097
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 1: So it self destructs or.

1098
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 4: Something, so you just talk after they've left the voicemail.

1099
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 4: It's never in person with these people that you have

1100
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 4: to respond.

1101
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 5: You know, the only time we've done that is in

1102
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 5: our live shows. We've just we've been doing a couple

1103
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 5: of live shows this summer and we'll invite people to

1104
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 5: come up to the mic and be brave. And with

1105
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 5: this one in Minneapolis recently, this man, first of all,

1106
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 5: I roasted him so hard because he said, my girlfriend's mom,

1107
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,400
Speaker 5: you know, she's like an older lady, she's gen X.

1108
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 5: And I was like, I want to punch you in

1109
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 5: the fucking face. First of all, your girlfriend's mom is

1110
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,879
Speaker 5: gen X. I don't want to know. I don't want

1111
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:26,720
Speaker 5: to do this math right now. But he was like, yeah,

1112
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 5: she won't say Spike Lee joint because she thinks, as

1113
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 5: a white lady, that's racist. And we had to like

1114
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:35,360
Speaker 5: parse whether or not this gen X lady was allowed

1115
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 5: to say Spike Lee joint. I'm like, man, man, it's

1116
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,439
Speaker 5: good to think about things, but like some of y'all

1117
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 5: just think too hard.

1118
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is really digging the bottom of the.

1119
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 2: And as a gen X person, there was I feel

1120
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 2: like back then when no one talked about anything, and

1121
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 2: literally there would be articles that would come out on

1122
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 2: the paper of like we're post racist America. There was

1123
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 2: all kinds of like crazy, you know, kind of corporate

1124
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 2: declarations of thank god, now the Barack Obama is the president,

1125
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 2: we never have to worry about racism again, like that

1126
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 2: kind of shit, where like there were people who cared

1127
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:14,919
Speaker 2: and were paying attention where it's like.

1128
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, where is your where does.

1129
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 2: Good sense and and hyper sensitivity for being one of

1130
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 2: the only people representing that kind of even it's light attention. Yeah,

1131
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 2: that's a Spike Lee joint where it's like if it

1132
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 2: says it on the movie poster.

1133
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 1: Aren't you allowed to say it?

1134
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 5: Like you can say it? Lady lady scared? You're so nervous.

1135
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 5: People be nervous these days, you guys. People don't want

1136
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 5: to get stuff wrong. People don't want to I mean

1137
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 5: with everything, with everything. Do you feel that, Because now

1138
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 5: y'all are veterans at this, at talking and at being

1139
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 5: yourselves on a microphone, do you has that gone away

1140
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 5: for you? You know, sometimes you get a guest on who's

1141
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 5: like very nervous about what they're saying and how they're

1142
00:52:58,000 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 5: presenting themselves.

1143
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 1: Do y'all. I just feel like your audience understands you

1144
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 1: and you're chill with it.

1145
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 2: Now.

1146
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:09,839
Speaker 4: I always think that I can screw things up. I'm

1147
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 4: never that comfortable. I still get nervous before I sit

1148
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 4: down to do this, and I think it comes from

1149
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 4: a healthy place, but yeah, no, I'm not comfortable. I

1150
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 4: still get very nervous to do this.

1151
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 5: Is that though, because you want to be funny, Because

1152
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:28,800
Speaker 5: that's like a different anxiety, right.

1153
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 4: Like yes, and that a lot of it is coming

1154
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 4: from there, like I win I or when I'm trying

1155
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 4: to be funny and I just trample over Karen saying

1156
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:39,800
Speaker 4: something thoughtful.

1157
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:42,720
Speaker 1: I've been no toed. We've already talked about that a bunch.

1158
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 4: But I'm like, I will try and get a joke

1159
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 4: out at all by all means necessary, and that includes

1160
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 4: interrupting my co host and or guest.

1161
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,879
Speaker 2: But that's twenty five years of stand up comedy green

1162
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 2: room experience that doesn't go away. Yeah, just because we're

1163
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:01,799
Speaker 2: all on a zoom, Yeah, it would be I also

1164
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 2: think it would be different if we were all in

1165
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 2: the same studio right now. Like the interrupting thing I

1166
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 2: feel like is zoom related very much? Because none of

1167
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 2: us have a sense. We have to anticipate like three

1168
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:15,799
Speaker 2: seconds ahead, where if we were sitting around each other,

1169
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:17,839
Speaker 2: we would know when somebody else wanted to talk.

1170
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 1: We would feel it.

1171
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 3: Yeahah, I can hear you when we're in the car.

1172
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 4: I can hear you inhale as if about to speak,

1173
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:25,799
Speaker 4: you know, there's a little.

1174
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 1: So should we be doing a heavier inhale?

1175
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, just get right up on the mic if you

1176
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 2: want to say something, No, me first, loudest inhale first. Well,

1177
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 2: and also I think having my favorite murder from my experience,

1178
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:44,439
Speaker 2: having my favorite murder where we had no fucking clue

1179
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:46,799
Speaker 2: what we were doing, and we suddenly got big and

1180
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 2: we're talking about very sensitive things insensitively or just kind

1181
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:57,919
Speaker 2: of like not realizing, and it wasn't It wasn't. Most

1182
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 2: of it wasn't race related, because most serial killers are

1183
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 2: usually the ones we were talking about are white straight men.

1184
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 2: So it was more around like, do you even understand

1185
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:13,760
Speaker 2: the topic and the subject of what you're saying, the sensitivity,

1186
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 2: the reality of it, which we didn't, And so we

1187
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 2: heard back immediately from the beginning of that podcast in

1188
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 2: such an intense way that I think we learned a

1189
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:27,319
Speaker 2: lesson that I then was able to just kind of

1190
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 2: carry through, which is that you have to be in

1191
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 2: a willing to learn in your whole life. You're never

1192
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 2: the final expert, you never know best. No matter what

1193
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 2: position you're in, you always have to be able to

1194
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:41,719
Speaker 2: hear from a random person on the internet and go,

1195
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 2: I really need to think about that. And for some

1196
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 2: people that is the worst thing that they could possibly do.

1197
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 2: But I was like, oh yeah, being a comic and

1198
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 2: built like the kind of people that I think I

1199
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 2: like and that I spend my time with are comics

1200
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 2: that they're the kind of people that keep an open

1201
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:02,319
Speaker 2: mind always because that's best for creativity. So like, if

1202
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:04,800
Speaker 2: somebody wants to tell you about something that you're doing,

1203
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 2: you would like my dog Frank, who really wants me

1204
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:10,880
Speaker 2: to let him back into the room and be on

1205
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:14,760
Speaker 2: the podcast. You need to listen. You need to listen

1206
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 2: to Frank sensitivity. But I mean, like that's it's like this,

1207
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 2: it's the lesson we're all learning like together as society

1208
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 2: almost because social media where it's like suddenly a bunch

1209
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 2: of people get to talk that you were speaking for

1210
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 2: before that didn't want you speaking for them, but you

1211
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:33,400
Speaker 2: didn't even have to know that before as a white person,

1212
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:36,919
Speaker 2: you could just be like, hooray, racisms over.

1213
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 1: I never forget parade. We had a parade. It was

1214
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 1: great and we felt so much better after it. Yeah, yeah,

1215
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:47,399
Speaker 1: that's so funny. Yeah.

1216
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 5: I think about that like balancing act. I feel I

1217
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:51,439
Speaker 5: feel like it's a balancing act for me in terms

1218
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:54,360
Speaker 5: of like being open and remembering that I need to

1219
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:57,439
Speaker 5: listen to folks and having sensitivities to that, but also

1220
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:00,400
Speaker 5: having a real knee jerk reaction that comes from the

1221
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 5: trauma of being a woman on the Internet and having

1222
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 5: like comments that are usually just men telling me I'm

1223
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,839
Speaker 5: wrong about some Star Trek thing or about some you know,

1224
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 5: Rolling Stones thing that I.

1225
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 1: Posted or whatever.

1226
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:15,240
Speaker 5: I'm dropping things, and so then there's that very last

1227
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 5: pissed Yeah I'm going real sheehol can hear it?

1228
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 1: Just absolutely trashing my ouse.

1229
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 5: But yeah, there's a there's a weird thing where sometimes

1230
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 5: I have to really take a pause when I get

1231
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 5: a Twitter comment that's like correcting me in some way,

1232
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 5: because I really have to examine, like where's this coming from.

1233
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 5: Is this just someone dying to be right about some

1234
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 5: minor detail that they're usually wrong about, especially if it's

1235
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 5: from one of those topics I just said. All the

1236
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 5: people correcting me on Star Trek are so often wrong

1237
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 5: that it just makes me. I'm like, what do you think?

1238
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 5: What do you think I sit around and do not

1239
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 5: rewatch the series and work for the franchise and host

1240
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 5: the official podcast.

1241
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 1: What do you think I do?

1242
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 4: But anyway, Oh, it'll be like they're correcting something using

1243
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 4: Google later on that you say off the top of

1244
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 4: your head during the podcast. Right, that's always my favorite.

1245
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 4: I've done a little research, and I'm here to let

1246
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 4: you know.

1247
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 2: I was.

1248
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 4: I don't do any research as I speak. I just

1249
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 4: don't have that capability.

1250
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.

1251
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 5: I also am like the first one to be like,

1252
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 5: I'm not an expert, guys, blah blah blah. But then

1253
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 5: out of the side of my neck, I'm like, but

1254
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 5: I but I kind of am. Just listen to me,

1255
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 5: I'm right about this, or at least I work for

1256
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 5: the people who know.

1257
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 4: And I asked them, yes, so did you pursue acting

1258
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 4: on that Star Trek and animated series?

1259
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 1: I didn't know. It just got lucky, Oh wow, lucky.

1260
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:37,920
Speaker 5: It was not a dish it was a little voiceover

1261
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 5: all dish that's so perfect.

1262
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 1: It was great.

1263
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, because I had a little code name, so I

1264
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:44,439
Speaker 5: didn't know it was Star Trek. And I never thought

1265
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 5: Star Trek would do a comedy because it's always so

1266
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 5: you know, it's these like morality plays about being human.

1267
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 5: And at the time, the Star Trek shows in existence

1268
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 5: were Star Trek Discovery and I believe Picard maybe hadn't

1269
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 5: aired yet, but we knew it was and uh yeah,

1270
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:05,919
Speaker 5: both like dramas, like sci fi adventure dramas. So when

1271
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 5: my agent said, oh, by the way, this thing code

1272
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 5: named California Class is actually the new Star Trek animated show,

1273
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 5: I was like, what they're doing, funny Star Trek.

1274
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 1: Please let me play like an alien. Let me just

1275
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 1: like be in the corner. I'll do whatever.

1276
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 5: And so I went in and it was a waiting

1277
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 5: room full of famous women, just like all the famous

1278
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 5: comedy women. And I was like, oh, no, goodbye, I'll

1279
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 5: never get anything here. And I started to do the

1280
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:37,160
Speaker 5: sides and then I made some comment to the showrunner

1281
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 5: was in the booth, Mike McMahon, and I made some

1282
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 5: comment about the sides. I was like, oh, I love

1283
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 5: that you put in this like reference or whatever, like

1284
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 5: clearly trying to flex that I was a fan.

1285
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 4: Right, I was going to ask if you in the audition,

1286
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 4: like I have something to show them that you knew

1287
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 4: what you were, because that's great.

1288
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:55,960
Speaker 5: No other I have no other claim to any other

1289
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 5: franchise like this. I don't know a shit about Marvel,

1290
00:59:58,120 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 5: I don't know shit about Star Wars. So I was like,

1291
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 5: this is the one place where I can actually be like,

1292
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:03,920
Speaker 5: wasn't that funny how they made Deanna Troy where I

1293
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 5: jumpsuit before they give her a uniform, and and Mike

1294
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 5: the showrunner was like, wait, are you like a big

1295
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 5: Star Trek fan? Can you just like improvise a bunch

1296
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 5: of Star Trek shit at the end of the scene.

1297
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 5: Oh wow, Like I sure can, buddy, give me.

1298
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:19,400
Speaker 3: The chance in that moment where you like, I think

1299
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 3: I'm getting.

1300
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 5: This, No, I still was concentrating on all of the

1301
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 5: famous women that I had just been watching on my

1302
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 5: television were sitting in that reading room.

1303
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 4: Who was in there, Dish, I'll tell you off, like,

1304
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 4: I don't want to beat them.

1305
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 5: I beat them, Chris, Yeah, yeah, that's right.

1306
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 1: But they didn't.

1307
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:38,800
Speaker 5: They didn't give us the script ahead of time, so

1308
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 5: everyone was in that waiting room frantically trying to read

1309
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 5: the script, and I got there late because it was

1310
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:46,120
Speaker 5: pilot season. I was miserable. I was coming from like

1311
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 5: thirty other jobs I wasn't going to get and so

1312
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:51,959
Speaker 5: I like thumbed through it and the names were all

1313
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 5: coded differently, so I didn't know like what gender, I

1314
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:57,240
Speaker 5: didn't know what role anyone was, and I just went

1315
01:00:57,280 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 5: in and read for this role and then like to

1316
01:00:59,880 --> 01:01:02,080
Speaker 5: my later, when my agent said I got it, I

1317
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:02,880
Speaker 5: was like, oh, my.

1318
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 1: God, that's really cool.

1319
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 5: I get to be like part of this world. And

1320
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 5: I was excited. But it wasn't until the table read.

1321
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:10,000
Speaker 5: I showed up to the table read and saw that

1322
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:12,920
Speaker 5: my script was in the center of the table that

1323
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:18,480
Speaker 5: I realized I was the lead of the show. I

1324
01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 5: was so trying to qua cool, but I was like, wait, what,

1325
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:22,439
Speaker 5: how what?

1326
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:24,200
Speaker 1: So I'm sorry.

1327
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:28,919
Speaker 2: Before you walked into the huge conference room where everybody

1328
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:30,880
Speaker 2: is on the first day of a table read, which

1329
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:34,600
Speaker 2: if you haven't and most people haven't, it's really one

1330
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:37,440
Speaker 2: of the most thrilling and exciting and kind of like

1331
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 2: inside show business experiences because everybody that works on the

1332
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:46,240
Speaker 2: show is sitting in chairs around the table, and then

1333
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:49,760
Speaker 2: there's a table some sort of table configuration with the

1334
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 2: cast acting out like the pilot episode or the first episode.

1335
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 2: So everybody shows up to kind of watch this, like

1336
01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:01,000
Speaker 2: here we go, and you're telling me that in that

1337
01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:03,880
Speaker 2: room is where you found out you got the lead

1338
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:04,640
Speaker 2: of this.

1339
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:07,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, you thought maybe it was one of those great

1340
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:10,440
Speaker 4: alien voices on the side or something like I.

1341
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 5: Think, you know, I think I knew she was a regular,

1342
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:14,840
Speaker 5: and I was like, this is great. I'm like in

1343
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:17,440
Speaker 5: the crew somewhere, but I hadn't been given a script

1344
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 5: and I didn't know.

1345
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:19,520
Speaker 1: I just didn't know.

1346
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:22,160
Speaker 5: And it's funny that like literally in the center of

1347
01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:24,200
Speaker 5: the table was my script, and then right next to

1348
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 5: it was the script for the person playing Boimler, who

1349
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 5: is now my good friend, Jack Quaid, and we we

1350
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 5: kind of both looked at each other like, wait, are

1351
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 5: we like important to this thing? Because I think he

1352
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:37,200
Speaker 5: had the same moment of like, oh, I don't know,

1353
01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:39,920
Speaker 5: I'm like in this thing I'm doing. You know, he'd

1354
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 5: worked some, but Jack is younger than me, and I

1355
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 5: don't know that he had had as many like voiceover

1356
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:47,440
Speaker 5: type jobs. I hadn't really either, but I think he

1357
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:49,760
Speaker 5: was like a little astounded too, and we both were

1358
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:51,000
Speaker 5: kind of like, I think.

1359
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:53,800
Speaker 1: We're like the top. I think we're co leading this thing.

1360
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1361
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:56,920
Speaker 3: It was so it was very exciting.

1362
01:02:57,600 --> 01:03:00,000
Speaker 1: I love that. Yeah, that's so exciting.

1363
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:02,439
Speaker 4: And it was two months later, like that's a long

1364
01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:05,080
Speaker 4: time to wait, it seems like, but I don't have

1365
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 4: that much experience with that.

1366
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 5: Maybe they hired somebody else and she's self distracted, you know,

1367
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:11,120
Speaker 5: just shit the bed.

1368
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:13,600
Speaker 3: Maybe yeah, well, hey.

1369
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:16,040
Speaker 1: And that person was Jennifer Garner.

1370
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 2: I'm naming names. I'm here to name those names in

1371
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 2: the room. She was there, she had gotten everybody gifts,

1372
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:28,919
Speaker 2: everyone loved her. But then Paramount said, nope, that's not said.

1373
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:30,440
Speaker 1: What is she doing on there?

1374
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:31,160
Speaker 3: Out of here?

1375
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:35,800
Speaker 2: I remember when that because I believe I follow Mike

1376
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:39,920
Speaker 2: McMahon on Twitter, and when he started being able to

1377
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:44,280
Speaker 2: post about the show, I kept looking at it because

1378
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 2: I was like, wait a second, a Star Trek, an

1379
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:51,240
Speaker 2: animated Star Trek series that's comedy. Like I couldn't get

1380
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:54,800
Speaker 2: it through my head of like wait then this must

1381
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:57,640
Speaker 2: be because I just kept thinking there's no way the

1382
01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:00,040
Speaker 2: Star Trek franchise would let them do this, so this

1383
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:03,080
Speaker 2: must be some weird rebellion or like. I just kept

1384
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 2: trying to figure it out, and then I was like,

1385
01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:07,840
Speaker 2: oh no, this is this is the real deal.

1386
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:10,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, they let him. It's amazing.

1387
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:14,280
Speaker 4: And I've only seen like a lot of the movies

1388
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:18,640
Speaker 4: from the Shatner nimoy era, but I remember a lot

1389
01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:21,080
Speaker 4: of What's Someone where they get whaled, the Voyage Home.

1390
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:25,880
Speaker 4: I think they take whales on Giant Space that had jokes,

1391
01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 4: lots of jokes.

1392
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:31,000
Speaker 1: And like they're hello, computer, come on.

1393
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:40,000
Speaker 4: Inspiring radio radiohead to then oh sorry, I'm sorry, but yeah,

1394
01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 4: I feel like there was always a joke or a

1395
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:48,760
Speaker 4: funny moment in old Star Trek episodes. But maybe I'm

1396
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:51,560
Speaker 4: also don't know what I'm talking about. And I believe

1397
01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 4: I said track and not track. Once Tig was on

1398
01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:56,960
Speaker 4: and I was like, how long have you been on

1399
01:04:57,040 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 4: Star Treck.

1400
01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:02,840
Speaker 3: She's like, it's U and nice quiet for the rest

1401
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:03,040
Speaker 3: of it.

1402
01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:07,320
Speaker 1: Oh that's a perfect that's perfect to get that from Tig.

1403
01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:10,840
Speaker 1: What an honor? Yeah? No, all that shit was funny.

1404
01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:14,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, there I there's good jokes in there.

1405
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:18,280
Speaker 2: I was just thinking about it. That's another forced fanship

1406
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:23,320
Speaker 2: from childhood, not just in college. But Star Trek was

1407
01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:27,640
Speaker 2: the show that came on after cartoons but before the news,

1408
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:29,800
Speaker 2: so it was like it was a way we marked

1409
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:32,880
Speaker 2: time during the day of like right after school, we

1410
01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:35,240
Speaker 2: would watch cartoons and then sometimes it would go into

1411
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 2: like Three's Company or whatever, the syndicated sitcom. But there

1412
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:43,800
Speaker 2: was also in the mix in because it was Channel two, right, Tawny,

1413
01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:46,520
Speaker 2: did you watch Channel two? Did we have chance TVU?

1414
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:49,920
Speaker 2: I don't like the mad that it was too U

1415
01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:53,440
Speaker 2: suf based far out, too far. We had more like

1416
01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:54,760
Speaker 2: Sacramento channels.

1417
01:05:55,080 --> 01:06:00,640
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, where the fog ends, right the.

1418
01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:05,640
Speaker 1: TV signal changes when the fog is gone. Well, but we.

1419
01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:08,960
Speaker 2: Basically basically I had a I think I have a

1420
01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:14,760
Speaker 2: cannon uh knowledge of the first Star Trek because we

1421
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:17,800
Speaker 2: watched it. We would not stop watching TV even if

1422
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:20,520
Speaker 2: we didn't like what we were watching, because you didn't

1423
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:24,000
Speaker 2: want to stop watching TV. So I've seen every single

1424
01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:28,080
Speaker 2: Star Trek of the original series multiple times because it

1425
01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:31,440
Speaker 2: was just on reruns on Channel two forever and it

1426
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:34,680
Speaker 2: was on after cartoons, so you're just like, we'll wait

1427
01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:37,040
Speaker 2: through this and then the something else good Will come

1428
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 2: on after or whatever. So I like any reference that

1429
01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:43,240
Speaker 2: a fan would make about a different episode, I'd just

1430
01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:45,000
Speaker 2: be like, oh, yeah, that one that weird planet they

1431
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:46,320
Speaker 2: went to where kids were in charge.

1432
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:49,200
Speaker 1: Really I remember, okay, like I all of them.

1433
01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:53,200
Speaker 3: Actually, I remember that one that so creepy. I really

1434
01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:55,480
Speaker 3: didn't like it for me. The Mash.

1435
01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 4: I watched episodes of MASH and that that theme song

1436
01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:03,800
Speaker 4: which is so depressing even without the lyrics, which are

1437
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:09,240
Speaker 4: indeed depressing, But that meant my parents were coming home.

1438
01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:14,520
Speaker 4: My mom would start vacuuming immediately. It was time for

1439
01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:17,439
Speaker 4: me to be told what to do around the house.

1440
01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:21,040
Speaker 4: Had I had my couple hours after school before my

1441
01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:24,120
Speaker 4: parents got home, and matched that MASH theme song meant

1442
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:26,320
Speaker 4: that was the end of it, and I didn't want

1443
01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:27,560
Speaker 4: it to end, so I would.

1444
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:31,560
Speaker 3: Sit through MASH. Yeah, a procedural.

1445
01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:35,240
Speaker 4: I never enjoyed an episode of MASH, and I think

1446
01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:37,000
Speaker 4: I've probably seen all of them.

1447
01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:40,400
Speaker 5: Oh that is so real, sitting through something just so

1448
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:42,040
Speaker 5: that you didn't have to go to bed. I think

1449
01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:44,880
Speaker 5: that's why I watched like all of Married with Children

1450
01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:45,320
Speaker 5: when I.

1451
01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:47,280
Speaker 1: Was far too young to be watching that, just.

1452
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:49,560
Speaker 5: Because I was like if I don't sit here silently,

1453
01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:51,040
Speaker 5: I'll have to go to bed.

1454
01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:58,320
Speaker 1: Oh that's so terrific. So that's lower decks. Yes, yes, yes,

1455
01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:03,360
Speaker 1: Parent with Anyway and Paramount Plus, which is the streaming

1456
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:04,800
Speaker 1: channel that seems to be coming.

1457
01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:09,000
Speaker 2: Out ahead these days. Yeah, in the streaming wars. Who knows,

1458
01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:10,240
Speaker 2: I don't know these streaming wars.

1459
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 5: Have you all taken up arms and are you prepared

1460
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:14,960
Speaker 5: to defend your master in the streaming wars?

1461
01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:18,280
Speaker 2: I'm choosing the Paramount Plus is my master. Just because

1462
01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:21,799
Speaker 2: Netflix is going into the shitter. Wow, Okay, their numbers

1463
01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:24,519
Speaker 2: are way down. We know what happened to HBO Max.

1464
01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:27,760
Speaker 2: That's true, you know, like I have been.

1465
01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:28,679
Speaker 3: Weeding themselves out.

1466
01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:32,400
Speaker 4: I'm an Apple TV guy just because there's only ten

1467
01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:34,240
Speaker 4: shows on there, and I feel like I have a

1468
01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:39,000
Speaker 4: nice control over. I've seen everything on It's insane to

1469
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:41,880
Speaker 4: me that there's I'm like, that's it. That's all Apple TV.

1470
01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:44,479
Speaker 4: And if you're listening Apple TV, I'm very sorry.

1471
01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:46,639
Speaker 3: I'm not. I'm just there's not a lot of shows

1472
01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:47,040
Speaker 3: on there.

1473
01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:50,520
Speaker 1: You've seen everything, You've seen the Fraggle Rock reboot.

1474
01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:54,160
Speaker 3: Of course. I started watching it and abruptly stopped.

1475
01:08:56,560 --> 01:08:59,640
Speaker 1: I'm just checking. Sorry, sorry to be a well actually.

1476
01:08:59,320 --> 01:09:01,960
Speaker 4: Guy, I want to see what the dozers look like,

1477
01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:05,040
Speaker 4: if they were still the same little that was my favorite,

1478
01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:07,160
Speaker 4: the miniature construction workers.

1479
01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:09,280
Speaker 3: That was my favorite thing, the dozers.

1480
01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:10,439
Speaker 1: They're really cute.

1481
01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:11,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, they were adorable.

1482
01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:14,600
Speaker 5: I am prepared to defend my master Paramount Bluss, so

1483
01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:17,759
Speaker 5: I will be on the front lines with you, Karen Nice.

1484
01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:20,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, good, because it's it's the best choice.

1485
01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:23,439
Speaker 4: Is there anything else coming out? I notice you're playing

1486
01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:26,080
Speaker 4: Mariah Carey in something and that got me excited.

1487
01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:27,800
Speaker 3: But you don't have to talk about it if you

1488
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:28,360
Speaker 3: don't want to.

1489
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:31,040
Speaker 5: It's not I don't know what that. That was a

1490
01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:33,800
Speaker 5: favor I did for Paul Shecher. He's say, can you

1491
01:09:34,040 --> 01:09:36,240
Speaker 5: come to the valley? Can you come to Chats on

1492
01:09:36,280 --> 01:09:38,240
Speaker 5: a one hundred and ten degree day and dresses Mariah

1493
01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:38,760
Speaker 5: Carey for time?

1494
01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:39,599
Speaker 3: Okay, gotcha.

1495
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:40,800
Speaker 1: I don't know what it was.

1496
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:45,040
Speaker 4: For all I knew it was like a biopice Okay, cool, cool, wow, No,

1497
01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:45,639
Speaker 4: you know.

1498
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:48,320
Speaker 2: That's just a reflection of what good research on the

1499
01:09:48,439 --> 01:09:51,759
Speaker 2: least does for us, where she's like, here's some interesting things.

1500
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:52,080
Speaker 3: To talk about.

1501
01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:54,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, And then I try and find my

1502
01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:58,559
Speaker 4: own stuff, and I I dropped that Mariah Carey steamer there.

1503
01:09:58,600 --> 01:09:59,559
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, everybody.

1504
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:02,600
Speaker 5: Good. Look, I wish if anyone's listening and you have

1505
01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:06,240
Speaker 5: the rights to Mariah Carey's story, I am available.

1506
01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:08,559
Speaker 1: I cannot sing like her, but I will do it.

1507
01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:12,479
Speaker 4: No, you're sick, you're six. You're close to seven octaves, right.

1508
01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:14,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got at least that's three.

1509
01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:17,160
Speaker 3: That's all I know about Mariah Carey is she is

1510
01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:18,759
Speaker 3: seven octave singer.

1511
01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:22,599
Speaker 1: Three is closer to seven than one, So that you're right.

1512
01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:25,880
Speaker 1: It rounds up, it rounds up. It's sure. No.

1513
01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:29,080
Speaker 5: I just did a few episodes on Physical, your favorite

1514
01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:33,600
Speaker 5: on Apple, your favorite streamers, so that's super fun. But

1515
01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:37,519
Speaker 5: no other than the strange New World's crossover episode that

1516
01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:42,320
Speaker 5: I'm super pumped about. Yeah, live action track is where

1517
01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:44,000
Speaker 5: it's at. Man. I was like, man, if I could

1518
01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:46,280
Speaker 5: just show up to work every day and work on

1519
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:50,519
Speaker 5: a bridge and move fake buttons and sliders and stuff,

1520
01:10:50,520 --> 01:10:51,120
Speaker 5: that's a dream.

1521
01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:55,839
Speaker 4: We're pretending that you froze for a second. We're pretending

1522
01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:58,519
Speaker 4: it didn't happen. But I have to address it. I

1523
01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:01,960
Speaker 4: always have to because we didn't hear what you said,

1524
01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:05,720
Speaker 4: but I just had to say something. Karen backed me up.

1525
01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:06,759
Speaker 4: She was frozen.

1526
01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:07,719
Speaker 1: Yes.

1527
01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:10,400
Speaker 2: And also what she was basically saying, which I think

1528
01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:12,760
Speaker 2: by context clues now tell me if I'm right or wrong,

1529
01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:15,080
Speaker 2: is that it was really fun to be on the

1530
01:11:15,120 --> 01:11:18,800
Speaker 2: live action Star Trek version that you were doing because

1531
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:20,840
Speaker 2: you got to actually be on the set.

1532
01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:23,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's the dream. That was the dream.

1533
01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:26,040
Speaker 5: And you both did pass my test. Thank you for

1534
01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:28,920
Speaker 5: I do this test with everyone. I intentionally freeze and

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Speaker 5: then I make us out what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 1: Are you listening? Do you care?

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Speaker 4: You just kept your body very still. That was amazing

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Speaker 4: physical comedy work. Wow, that was amazing.

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Speaker 1: I studied under mister bean.

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Speaker 3: Oh Rowan.

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Speaker 1: This was a I think I would give this a

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Speaker 1: B plus. If not an A plus.

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Speaker 3: Wow, well but yeah, no A minus though plus.

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Speaker 2: So I feel like as is insulting. It's like either

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Speaker 2: let's do this thing or let's.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going to say it was an A. You

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Speaker 3: were terrific, Tony, I.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agraad have not.

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Speaker 5: I don't have a rating system. I'm kind of like

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Speaker 5: more of a monossory type podcaster. Sure, so I'm just

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Speaker 5: gonna give you guys, like a learning, like a sunshine

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Speaker 5: and like a beautiful original song.

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Speaker 1: That's that's how it fell to me.

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Speaker 3: I love I love stickers and yeah and me and.

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Speaker 1: So that's what this was.

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Speaker 4: So thank you you've been listening to Do You Need

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Speaker 4: a Ride?

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Speaker 3: D y n they are. This has been an exactly

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Speaker 3: right production.

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Speaker 1: Produced by Analise Nelson.

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Speaker 3: Mixed by John Bradley.

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Speaker 1: Our talent booker is Patrick Cottner.

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Speaker 3: Theme song by Karen Kilgarret.

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Speaker 1: Artwork by Chris Fairbanks.

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Speaker 2: Follow the show on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook at dinar

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Speaker 2: podcast That's d y n ar Podcast.

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Speaker 4: For more information, go to exactly Rightmedia dot com.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Oh You're welcome