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Speaker 1: Motherfucking Mini Eisol Mini episode.

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Speaker 2: Motherfucking Mini Your soul, the D, the I, the D,

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Speaker 3: It's diddy. Hold up, it's ditty. There it is, Gentiles

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Speaker 3: and little Mama's alike. Welcome to another phenomenal episode of

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Speaker 3: My Mama Told Me, the.

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Speaker 4: Podcast where we dive deep into the pockets of black

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Speaker 4: conspiracy theories and.

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Speaker 3: We finally worked to prove the theories that you the

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Speaker 3: listener have at home. It's a motherfucking mini episode. We

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Speaker 3: ain't got to tell you twice.

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Speaker 4: Come on, let's go. How you feeling I'm feeling great.

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Speaker 3: I'm excited because we have an email from one of

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Speaker 3: our listeners, full no doubt to tune into this trash

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Speaker 3: every week, but and to email afterwards nearly insane.

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean. I don't love it.

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Speaker 3: I don't know it an odd, odd behavior. But here

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Speaker 3: you are sending us an email. What a great email

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Speaker 3: it was. This one comes from a person named ian

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Speaker 3: Ian sent us a message I believe from Canada. If

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Speaker 3: I'm not mistaken, Canada, flint flint tree.

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Speaker 4: Oh that's that's that's that's just that, you know, was

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Speaker 4: like French. I thought that was like Quebec. You thought

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Speaker 4: he was Quebec quad. Okay, great, thank god?

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Speaker 5: Uh But motherfucker named Ian sent us a message that said, fellas,

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Speaker 5: my daughters were looking at this year's participants in Dancing

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Speaker 5: with the Stars and kept asking my wife who every

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Speaker 5: quasi celebrity was.

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Speaker 3: When I heard them say who is Reginald L. Johnson?

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Speaker 3: I knew that A I'd failed as a parent, and

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Speaker 3: B I now had a room interest in a show

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Speaker 3: I won't watch. But one of my neighbors watching this

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Speaker 3: garbage will argue that Reginald vel Johnson is a dei

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Speaker 3: addition to the cast, along with Dwhight Howard. However, I

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Speaker 3: believe that their addition, particularly Reginalvell's audition at seventy two,

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Speaker 3: a full thirty six years after his Oscar worthy performance

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Speaker 3: of Sergeant polland Diehard, is a conspiracy by white Hollywood

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Speaker 3: as to put too affable but hopelessly two left footed

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Speaker 3: black people as a means of ensuring a white winner

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Speaker 3: of this idiotic, beloved competition.

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Speaker 4: Wow, it is in reality TV scam for black people

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Speaker 4: not to win. That. Yes, I done, nigga. Of course,

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Speaker 4: you ever noticed how they always get black guys you

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Speaker 4: want to hit white women on the real world. That

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Speaker 4: doesn't seem brazy to you. Fuck damn, damn, Like, whoa fuck?

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Speaker 1: What do you mean?

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Speaker 4: No, it just occurred to me.

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Speaker 3: No, you're right, You're right that, Like, damn, there were

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Speaker 3: so many just domestic abusing black men on the real world,

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Speaker 3: and specifically ones that were like down to slap a

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Speaker 4: They tried to get niggas up out of there. They

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Speaker 4: tried to have them be the most alienated ever. Fuck, Like,

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Speaker 4: I thought about that until now. That's why that TV

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Speaker 4: show is kind of really a tough watch for me

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Speaker 4: always because it's always on some shit like that, even

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Speaker 4: like and then they always like portray him as the

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Speaker 4: angry black man, you know what I mean that it

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Speaker 4: always comes up every and the black man specifically never

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Speaker 4: integrates into that show ever. You remember come on Baby,

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Speaker 4: Come on Baby tonight. They that's the second most memorable

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Speaker 4: thing about that season. It's surely what a devastating legacy

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Speaker 4: that he's left behind of slapping white women and singing

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Speaker 4: come on baby. It's a different guy. It's a different guy. No,

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Speaker 4: But isn't he the one if I'm not mistaken.

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Speaker 3: Isn't he the one that pulled up next to the car,

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Speaker 3: taped the window and then like slapped the.

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Speaker 1: Dude.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I apologize, but either but that speaks to the

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Speaker 4: fact that they do it over and over again. Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: It is a fascinating unpacking to think the biases that

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Speaker 3: go into these castings. I think I always sort of

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Speaker 3: and this is my my shame. I'm not saying this

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Speaker 3: with any pride. I always generalized it as being like, oh,

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Speaker 3: just so happened that some of these black men happened

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Speaker 3: now the way you pointed out, does feel like, no,

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Speaker 3: this has to be intentional.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they they because it's not coach at some point

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Speaker 4: that like how many black people you know who can

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Speaker 4: Like that show seems to always boil down to boil

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Speaker 4: down to like black people not fitting in and then

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Speaker 4: the white people being like wise, the always talking about rice.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, you're putting your you're isolating people

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Speaker 4: and then expecting them to not react to that isolation, Right,

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Speaker 4: it's a it's a it's a it's a cold game

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Speaker 4: they're playing. So I say that all to say, like,

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Speaker 4: and I don't even watch Dancing with the Stars. I

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Speaker 4: don't know what the dynamics are there. But you know,

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Speaker 4: black people don't seem at least in mind. And I'm

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Speaker 4: granted not up on reality TV. But we don't seem

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Speaker 4: type shit. Mmm, I've not been Black people want Survivor.

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Speaker 3: I bet I'm gonna say yes, but I have no

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Speaker 3: I don't watch Survivor. I have no evidence of that.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if that any black people have ever

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Speaker 4: Or Big Brother or any of those things.

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Speaker 3: I know that a black couple just won Love Island, okay,

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Speaker 3: but he's obig was his name, Odell Beckham, Junior's younger

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Speaker 3: seems like some of that has to do with celebrity

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Speaker 3: won the reality TV show Survivor, including Richard Hatch Borneo

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Speaker 3: of Vesepia Twi, the first African American woman to win Survivor,

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Speaker 3: winning Survivor Or Marquises Marianna Oketch and the second black

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Speaker 3: So it sounds like we won a few times, we

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Speaker 3: got different show. But here's what I'll say. I think

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Speaker 3: it's less at least when I hear this, it feels

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Speaker 3: and more important about the timing in which they allow

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Speaker 3: black people to win. Right that, like in a cool, peaceful,

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Speaker 3: right It's election season. They've got stakes. They've got real

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Speaker 3: concerns about Kamala's optics as far as getting white men

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Speaker 3: it might hurt them to empower Dwight Howard as a

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Speaker 3: champion right alongside Kamala Harris right that, like it.

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Speaker 4: Do you mean like the idea of their like black

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Speaker 3: This is too much shit all at once. And so

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Speaker 3: there might be on a political level, being like, it

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Speaker 3: is better for us if a white person wins this competition.

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Speaker 3: So if we gotta to figure out a way to

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Speaker 3: cook the books, why not get Reginald L. Johnson and

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Speaker 3: Dwight Howard, two people who we objectively know have no chance?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 4: What if Reginald surprises him? And I think they're willing

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Speaker 4: listener's point, he's such a good pick because even if

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Speaker 4: still has a quality of like goofy, fucking like dad

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Speaker 4: shit that people will find harmless. Versus if Dwight Howard

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Speaker 4: surprises us, that's terrifying for the white race. To be fair, though,

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Speaker 4: Howard is not harmless. No, he's a monster. The fuck

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Speaker 3: He's not a He's not even gonna take care of

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Speaker 3: the baby after he puts it in.

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Speaker 4: He's gonna walk away. You know you what are you

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Speaker 4: gonna do? Fight man they used to call superman. Yeah, No,

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Speaker 4: but I to that. I do say, then why would

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Speaker 4: they include him in it, the Dwight Howard just because

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Speaker 4: they know he's gonna lose.

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Speaker 3: I think there's an argument to say that you know

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Speaker 3: he's gonna lose. I think also similar to your argument

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Speaker 3: about putting complicated black people as the options for us

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Speaker 3: fact that we you and I know a pretty I

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Speaker 3: know a fair amount of details about Dwight Howard and

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Speaker 3: his sordid past, and ABC probably does too, and they're

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Speaker 3: choosing to ignore that because worst case scenario, it brings

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Speaker 3: in certain demos.

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Speaker 4: Right, Like you could have got Don Sheetel or some shit. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: there are other people who are like not hurting the

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Speaker 4: world that you could have chosen as your black representative.

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Speaker 4: There are other retired NBA players that would happily go

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Speaker 4: and do that shit. True. True.

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Speaker 3: We have to start the Steal Tour. We're very excited

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Speaker 3: about it. I'm not about to bite my tongue. We

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Speaker 3: want to sell it out and the dates are coming

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Speaker 3: our link tree. But you can see us in Washington,

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Speaker 3: DC on October tenth, Detroit, Michigan on October twelfth, Chicago

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Speaker 3: October thirteenth, October seventeenth, we're in LA in Hollywood. We'll

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Speaker 3: be in Atlanta on Halloween, October thirty. First, we want

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Speaker 3: We will be doing our coveted live show with special guests,

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Speaker 4: Depending on the city, it'll be a time all that

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Speaker 4: meet and greets. You think Chris Brown has a good

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Speaker 3: Bro, Let's be clear, I'll take a weird picture with

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Speaker 3: you for free.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 4: I I'm always weary of you know, reality television in general, obviously,

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Speaker 4: and they're no, these producers are monsters and black people's

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Speaker 4: role within it, Yeah, like just in general, always have

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Speaker 4: been ever since that fucking that fucking Real World shit. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I think that's fair. They're doing this.

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Speaker 3: Even the early seasons of Real World it was very

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Speaker 4: Ye at the white people.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a lot of fights where it's just

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Speaker 3: it's like, all right, well, how much of that is

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Speaker 3: that house or how much of that is like y'all paked?

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Speaker 4: Well? Because I think a lot of people, I think

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Speaker 4: a lot of black people would have been like this.

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Speaker 4: I mean, check whatever. Yeah, because I think they do

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Speaker 4: the same thing. I think, especially because I've watched a

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Speaker 4: lot of real world just like it's good to have

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Speaker 4: one if you're sending emails or something. I think they

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Speaker 4: did the same thing with gay people a lot, or

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Speaker 4: LGBTQ people in general, where they would have one of

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Speaker 4: you in the so in this house where every everyone's

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Speaker 4: exactly alike, like you know what I mean, I gues

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Speaker 4: it's different in little ways, but then it's like they'll

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's one thing tokenism. I want to be careful

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Speaker 3: how I say this, but I think tokenism works if

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Speaker 3: that person is a consenting party inside of being the token.

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Speaker 4: Nothing complicated about that guy. Nope, he don't care where

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