1 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: So the final was actually this full game where you 2 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:11,639 Speaker 1: play two points of singles and then the other two 3 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: players swap in and out. So it was Ben and Phillips, 4 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: who are both great players, and then Dirks and I 5 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:17,959 Speaker 1: against each other and first to. 6 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 2: Eleven and we just got away with it. 7 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 3: Welcome to episode four oh three with Morgan Evans. You know, 8 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 3: Morgan's from Newcastle, New South Wales, Australia. I would have 9 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 3: thought New South Wales was in Europe because Wales, I 10 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 3: don't even know where where the New Whales though, it's 11 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 3: the New South Wales. Yeah, yeah, Newcastle, New South Wales, Australia. 12 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 3: Morgan and our friends. So it's always an interesting conversation 13 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 3: when I have my friends because I feel like I 14 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 3: can go places other people can't, but also know too 15 00:00:55,080 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 3: much sometimes where it keeps it's just a bizarre feeling. 16 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 3: Does that make sense? Yeah, that makes sense. Like if 17 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 3: I don't Let's say I'm interviewing you and I don't 18 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 3: know some of the stuff, I'm just gonna ask and like, 19 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 3: but if you're my close friend and I know some 20 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 3: of the stuff is like super sensitive, Yeah, and sometimes 21 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 3: you have to ask knowing what the answer is. Like 22 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 3: you don't know, and sometimes I gotta ask for the 23 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 3: sake of the listener, even though I know that I 24 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 3: really don't want to ask anyway, because I already know. 25 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 3: And it's I like it. I like when I get 26 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 3: to interview with my friends. But there are some difficult 27 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 3: parts of that. And it's not just Morgan, it's any 28 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 3: any of my close friends that I bring on that 29 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 3: I like. I'm like, well, if I warn't friends, i'd have. 30 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 3: But I think this is a really good interview with Morgan. 31 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 3: For example, of his songs that you may know, let's say, 32 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 3: kiss somebody, a former number one right here. 33 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: Sometimes you gotta kiss somebody. 34 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 3: He's got day drunk. It's good. Maybe you heard this 35 00:01:53,600 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 3: song over for you was inspired by his divorce. 36 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: You know. 37 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 3: We got to it and I felt like I gave 38 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 3: him a runway and I was gonna lay his plane 39 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 3: land where he wanted to land it. Yeah, and he 40 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 3: landed that plane in the way that he preferred to 41 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 3: land it right. He did, okay, and also didn't go 42 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 3: right to him right when it happened. I think if 43 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 3: I wouldn't have been a friend, I would have been like, hey, dude, 44 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 3: I know they just happened, which come over. Yeah, So 45 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 3: I love Morgan. So he's got a EP out. It's 46 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 3: called Life Upside Down. The second single from it, which 47 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 3: is on my own agains about him. Is that a 48 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 3: single or just a song he released because it's weird too, 49 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 3: because the song you release. Yeah, yeah, it's just a 50 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 3: weird time now, because everything could be a single in 51 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 3: that you released one song at a time. But then 52 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 3: maybe it's not like a single that is guided by 53 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 3: your record label. Yeah, difference, m hm. So okay, uh, 54 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 3: I don't know. Let's just get into it. You guys 55 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 3: go check him out Morgan Evans music dot com. You 56 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 3: can follow him at Morgan Evans Music. He is deceivingly 57 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 3: super athletic, deceivingly large. 58 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 1: Yeah. 59 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 3: We after this interview a few days later, we went 60 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 3: and over to friend's house and played pickleball, and I 61 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 3: wore cutouts everywhere I go. I don't like wearing sleeves, 62 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 3: not because I'm jacked, but just not comfortable. I like 63 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:21,959 Speaker 3: work cut off all the time. When Morgan was wanting 64 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 3: to cut off playing pickleball, and he is ripped. Well, 65 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 3: a couple of days ago I ran into him running. 66 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 3: He did and he was wearing no shirt and I 67 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:30,799 Speaker 3: was like, oh my gosh, he is unassumingly ripped. Yeah, 68 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 3: he's a monster for sure. So here he is now 69 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 3: that we've googo and got got over Morgan Evans's body. 70 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 3: Here he is episode four oh three from New South 71 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 3: Wales and that's in Australia. Morgan Evans. I was just 72 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 3: driving in and I was driving the Bronco. I'm the 73 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 3: old seventy four Bronco, so that we've rebuilt, I say, 74 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 3: we've I've done nothing to it. I don't know anything 75 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 3: about cars. And you'll see where this is going in 76 00:03:55,040 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 3: a second. And so we got it in and my 77 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 3: wife is just like, I'd love an old Bronco because 78 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 3: they do look cool, but they're impossible to find, right. 79 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 3: So we start looking at some of these car dealerships 80 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 3: that have older exotic cars because sometimes they have Broncos, 81 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 3: older Broncos. And we went to one here in town 82 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 3: and they're like, we don't have anything, but we can 83 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 3: put you on a list and call you as soon 84 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,359 Speaker 3: as we get it, okay, And we're like, okay, cool, 85 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 3: and doesn't mean we have to buy it though, if 86 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 3: you call us. Because we had to sign something and 87 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 3: they're like, no, no, no, but you're just committing to 88 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 3: us that you're serious about it, all right, Like whatever 89 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 3: you want, what does that mean? It's like calling shotgun, 90 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 3: Like I'm like, yeah. So they call us and they 91 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 3: say we have one. It's blue. Now, I really wanted 92 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 3: a red one, but my wife thinks everything that happens 93 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 3: too red. Anyway, love the color red. 94 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 2: And so. 95 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 3: We drive up to it and it's the Sprunko way 96 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 3: of now but it's uh, it's got many more of 97 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 3: than nineteen seventy four parts in it, and it is 98 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 3: it drives like I don't even know how they traveled 99 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 3: back then. In this thing is a horse and buggy 100 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 3: barely ran. And I said we'll take it. And it 101 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 3: was not cheap because again they're in such high demand, 102 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 3: these old broncos. 103 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like. 104 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 3: Eighty thousand dollars. 105 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 2: Old old Yep. 106 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 3: We're like, okay, well, so we get it. 107 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 2: Investment. 108 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: We call that kind of thing an investment. 109 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 3: I guess. But they say that as soon as you 110 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:29,919 Speaker 3: drive it, it goes down in value. But then these be 111 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 3: driven a lot and it's gone up in value. So yes, 112 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 3: let's just call it an investment. So we get it, 113 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 3: drive it home and we're getting married like two weeks later, 114 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 3: and so clean it up real good. We drive it 115 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 3: off and are leaving the wedding situation where we just 116 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 3: drove the hotel. 117 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 2: Yeah just married son. 118 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:55,919 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, which we really just drove it over to 119 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 3: our my manager Tom's house and then traded and got 120 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 3: in a real car and drove to the hotel. There 121 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 3: we stayed until we the next morning for a honeymoon. 122 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: And so. 123 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 3: As we're gone, I had one of my friends take it. 124 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 3: We're gonna get some stuff fixed on it. I know 125 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 3: nothing about cars, okay, and driving it boom, somebody nails 126 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 3: it on the highway. Interesting, I'm talking about the whole 127 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 3: front side is just dent it in and it's the 128 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 3: axle thing is bent and I don't even know what 129 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 3: to call these parts. And so I got a picture 130 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 3: of it. I'm like, oh my god. And so they're like, hey, 131 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 3: it's totaled, and I'm like, no, no, I don't want 132 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 3: it to be totaled because it was so hard to find. 133 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 3: So can we not total it? Like what's it going 134 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 3: to cost to not total it? Because totaling it, as 135 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 3: you probably know is if it's gonna take more to 136 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 3: fix than the value is. So I say, let's not 137 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 3: total it. Just give me the value that you can 138 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 3: give me, and I'll pay more because we wanted to 139 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 3: make it driveable anyway. So they say okay, So they 140 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 3: give me the money take it to the body shop. 141 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 3: They also work on, you know, older cooler cars, and 142 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 3: I say, I don't want to standard anymore. I want 143 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 3: to automatic, and I don't care about it being all real. 144 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 3: I just want it to look cool and drive easy. 145 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 3: It changed out the steering column. I've learned what that is. 146 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 3: They put in a new engine and they it's it's 147 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 3: also on a lift. It's like a two inch lift. 148 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 3: It's so they replace the old lift and I get 149 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 3: it and it's driving, so I mean it's it's awesome 150 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 3: right and sounds awesome for the first time. It's like 151 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 3: I'm I'm just loving I'm driving and I was driving 152 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 3: it today and I used to think people love the 153 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 3: radio show and they would be like, hey, wave at me, 154 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 3: but they don't. They just love the truck. So the 155 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 3: truck is more love than I am when I'm driving 156 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 3: it around. So it's super cool and I'm driving home 157 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 3: just a minute ago, because I just drove up after 158 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 3: maybe like what thirty seconds before he did. Yeah, And 159 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 3: I was thinking about you because you have a jeep. 160 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 3: And it started to rain on me when I was 161 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 3: in this Bronco and I'm like, oh God, you're on 162 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 3: the top. There's no top on it. 163 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: Oh, not even a soft top or anything. 164 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 3: Soft tops in the garage. 165 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: Oh removal. 166 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 3: I don't okay, I don't want to soft. I don't 167 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 3: want to top on it at all. And so I'm driving 168 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 3: it starts to rain on me, and I'm thinking, I 169 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 3: hope Morgan's top is off too, so he's also getting wet. 170 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 3: And that's very selfish to me, and I'll say it. 171 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 3: As I was driving here, I thought to myself, I 172 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 3: hope Morgan's top is off his jeep and he's also 173 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 3: getting wet, and then we can relate and bond. And 174 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 3: I saw your jeep and the top is on it. 175 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 3: Tops on, man, So I just like to say, you're 176 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 3: a west for having your top on. And that's where 177 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 3: this all goes. We're all the way back around. 178 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: I want to go check out this brokra that's amazing, 179 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: all right, So you leave the. 180 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 3: Top on all the time, or are you gone so 181 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 3: much that you just leave the top on in case 182 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 3: because you can't really predict the weather. 183 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, well I'm going to the airport after this anyway, 184 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: so kind of need to top on for that. 185 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,199 Speaker 3: So which is my point, So you can't really How 186 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 3: long is it take taking top on or off? Do 187 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 3: you have one of those Pulley things? 188 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: Uh, it's got the trump bits that's super easy to 189 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 1: take off, which is just over the driver passenger seat, 190 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,199 Speaker 1: but the full back is that's a bit of a situation. Yeah, 191 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 1: you need the police situation all Like two dudes. 192 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 3: I just have a jeep. Was as cool asures but 193 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 3: Jake oh And bought me a thing you put in 194 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 3: your garage and it like lifts it up. But that 195 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 3: thing was harder to put up than take the top 196 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 3: off of the jeep. 197 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 1: I got one of those in my old place and 198 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: I arrived from Amazon and I tried to put it up. 199 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 1: It's just a bunch of like little hooks and ropes. 200 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 1: And I tried to put it up while drinking beer 201 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: one night, and it wasn't until the next morning that 202 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: I came down and tried to use it and realize 203 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: I've done it completely completely wrong and had to do 204 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: it that morning over some coffee and fix it. But 205 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 1: it did work really well once I got done. 206 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 3: You you love the jeep. I feel like that's part 207 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 3: of your brand. Like you can't you can't drive like 208 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 3: a Honda Civic, right, you can't drive even let me 209 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 3: go something. Really, if you drove up in a Maserati, 210 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 3: I would be like, it doesn't. 211 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 2: Fit right, man? 212 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 1: Man? I actually I got the jeep after I went 213 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 1: on a whole day. I went to Hawaii and I 214 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: rented a Jeep and had the most amazing time. I 215 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: was in Kawai, It's one of my favorite places in 216 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: the world, and it just felt so good And I 217 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 1: went in testra of this thing and it felt like 218 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: a toy. It still feels like a toy car and 219 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: feels like a vacation when I get in it. 220 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 3: And is that your only car? 221 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 2: That's it? 222 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 1: Yeah? I still have my old truck that It was 223 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: the first thing that I bought when I moved to America. 224 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: I com bring myself to sell that. But that's the 225 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: that's the daily drive. 226 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 3: You ever been trapped because in my jeep, I got 227 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 3: trapped in a storm with no top. 228 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: There's been some some moments where I thought I was 229 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:36,199 Speaker 1: going to get trapped. 230 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 2: I know the feeling, but I haven't. I haven't been hit. 231 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 3: I didn't know there again, nothing about cars. So what 232 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 3: I didn't know was once your jeep fills up the water, 233 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 3: because it's what mine did. I was near the radio 234 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 3: station and drove to work. Didn't look at the weather, 235 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 3: big storm, nowhere for me to go. The thing's filling 236 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:55,719 Speaker 3: up with the water, that the floorboards, that everything. I 237 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 3: drive home. I just let it. And I'm like, gosh, 238 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 3: I didn't. I'm just letting it like dry. And one 239 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 3: of my buddies and goes, why is your jeep full 240 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 3: of water? I was like, I was in a storm, bro. 241 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,319 Speaker 3: And he walks over, pulls the two plugs out of 242 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 3: the bottom drains in like five seconds. Had no idea. 243 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 3: I never read. The man was just slushing around. It 244 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 3: was like sitting standing water just in the jeep. So 245 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:20,479 Speaker 3: I'm not really a masculine in many ways, a masculine 246 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:27,199 Speaker 3: guy when it comes to cars or fighting or beer sports. 247 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 3: I'm in. I'm in more than I should be, Okay, 248 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 3: but that's like my only saving grace. Yeah, or I 249 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 3: think I just I would say I think I would 250 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 3: just not be masculine. But I know, like women who 251 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 3: aren't masculine, the dog who is more masculine than I 252 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 3: am in many ways. 253 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 2: I think that's an old school masculinity though, isn't it. 254 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 1: If you know about it, you know that's true. 255 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 3: But I'm from a very small town in Arkansas in 256 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 3: the South where everything is still like you. 257 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 1: Know, yeah, sounds like that anyway. 258 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 3: Good to see you you too. I feel like you're 259 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 3: very hard to be friends with, and not because it's 260 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 3: who you are. It's just because of what you do. 261 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 3: What I do, but mostly what you do. And I 262 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 3: feel like you're traveling internationally more than I remember you 263 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 3: ever traveling internationally. The true or false? Uh? 264 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's been a wild few months. 265 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: Actually, I just realized on the weekend it was the 266 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:17,679 Speaker 1: first weekend that spent in Nashville in three months. So yes, specifically, 267 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 1: this last little period has been pretty wild. Yeah. 268 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 3: There have been a couple times we've tried to get 269 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 3: to get you be gone or I'd be somewhere. You 270 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:26,719 Speaker 3: wanna do this, you wanna play pickleball, you want to 271 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 3: get together. Yeah, it's like all right, wake up, ready 272 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 3: to go. Hour later, we play pickball. Now I get 273 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 3: a call, Hey man, I'm in California. 274 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: Sorry, I'm like, oh, I've definitely been taking advantage of 275 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: the whole. Like, wait a minute, is there like a 276 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: waife coming in at that beach? Can I get to 277 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: that beach in time for it? I'm going to go 278 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: so for the next two days. So, oh, you know 279 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: what happened? 280 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 2: It's been that too. 281 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 3: I told you about you and I. No, I guess 282 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 3: it was. I guess it was Brett. You and I 283 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 3: played pickleball? Was that when I locked myself out of 284 00:12:58,559 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 3: my car? 285 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: Oh? 286 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, you didn't tell me though, That's right, I did. 287 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 3: Okay, I knew I told you this, but I didn't 288 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,679 Speaker 3: tell you this then, right. 289 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: I didn't know at the time. Until when did I 290 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,319 Speaker 1: tell you this? I think it was just the next 291 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: time my story. 292 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, so whatever the case might, do you know the story? 293 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: I think so? 294 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 3: Were we somewhere with them? I don't know. I tell 295 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 3: so many stories from radio told us so on this 296 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:26,079 Speaker 3: on the radio show. I was playing pickleball at Morgan. 297 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 3: He beat me. I was pissed. Although he is better 298 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 3: than I am and it's like we played the best 299 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 3: of five, you went three to two. Heart fought match, though, 300 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 3: give me some credit. Hard fight match, right new nudepicable. 301 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 3: And I had realized that my keys in my car, 302 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 3: which I didn't know could even happened because my car 303 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 3: has the thing where you usually hold the key near 304 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,439 Speaker 3: something it opens, not the bronco like another car. And 305 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 3: I'm like, what the And Morgan's getting his jeep and 306 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 3: I know I'm locked out, and I'm like, I'm not 307 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 3: asking him for any assistance. This stupid I'm a loser, 308 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 3: and I deserve to be a loser for the rest 309 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 3: of the day, and I deserve to be punished by 310 00:13:57,679 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 3: whatever I'm about to have to do with the keys 311 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 3: locked out in my car. And that's what happened. And 312 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 3: I sat there. 313 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 1: From my perspective though, as I was getting in the 314 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: g it was like we just finished and sort of 315 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: set out good boys. And as soon as I got 316 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: in the JAP, I looked out and You're on the phone, 317 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 1: like looked like hot at work. 318 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 2: I was like, many he just goest. 319 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 3: I was actually going, hey, dealership, is there any way 320 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 3: you're gonna lock my car? And they were like nah, 321 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 3: have you signed up for the app? And I was 322 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 3: like no, And so for like thirty minutes we tried 323 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 3: to get in. We couldn't. Then I had to Uber 324 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 3: home to get the keys to Uber back and then 325 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 3: to me an hour and a half. But I deserve that, 326 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 3: you know why, because I lost pickleball and that was 327 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 3: my mindset. It wasn't that I didn't think you would 328 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 3: drive me home. I lived ten minutes away. 329 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, it would have been you'd been easier. 330 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 3: It would have been. You know what. I didn't deserve 331 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 3: that because when the chips were down, I lost and 332 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 3: I failed, and because of that I needed to get 333 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 3: my comeuppins. 334 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: Well I think that's ridiculous, but thank you for telling 335 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: me eventually that you lock yourself out. 336 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 3: I got like eight stories. I'm just I just feel 337 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 3: like I'm pouring them out of me here. And then 338 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 3: you and I were supposed to be team together in 339 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 3: the charity pickleball tournament. Yeah, now, this is not a 340 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 3: shot at Chris Lane. Chris Lane's a better athlete than 341 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 3: I am. Chris Lane was a college baseball player, but 342 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 3: he didn't know how to play pickleball, and all the 343 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 3: know all of a sudden I get a call going, hey, 344 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 3: you've been switch. You and Morgan are on a team. 345 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 3: Now that's you and Chris, And I'm like, oh, cool. 346 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 3: Chris is a great athlete too. Don't know him's well 347 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 3: to do Morgan, but I'm sure we'll do fine. 348 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: Right. 349 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 3: So we show up and I was gonna play posso 350 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 3: I act like I to know how to play. That 351 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 3: was my plan going into it. We'd be like, I 352 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 3: don't know the rules, even though I had been playing 353 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 3: a decent amount since you and I played. 354 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know the rules. 355 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 3: Okay, so what that's called the lobby? No, that's called 356 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 3: the kitchen. Oh. I was going to do that. But 357 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 3: then when I get there and Chris is on my 358 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 3: team and he really doesn't know the rules, I can't. 359 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 3: He's asking me the rules, and I don't want to 360 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 3: lie to me like I don't know. I can't play 361 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 3: pass out of. 362 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 2: My own partner, right, especially if he. 363 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 3: Isn't He said, I never played in my life. I 364 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 3: watched tiktoks this morning on the rules and I'm like, oh. 365 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: So, here's my question to you. I didn't watch those 366 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: games because we were playing at the same time. 367 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, you were winning with your partner. 368 00:15:56,040 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 1: I was very lucky in my partnership, actually, But did 369 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: you actually believe him when he said he never played before, 370 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: because I played in a ping pong tournament with him 371 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: a few weeks. 372 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 2: Prior to that. 373 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: He's an excellent ping pong player and he dominant, he 374 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: won the whole thing. 375 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 3: He's a great athlete. Yeah, I do believe him. I 376 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 3: did believe him, and I do believe him because I 377 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 3: because he played with them and if he needed to 378 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 3: move or cut, he's great. But again, there are just 379 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 3: some rules and some you know, intricate details of that sport. Yeah, 380 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 3: like where you can stand when you hit it. Little 381 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 3: that he didn't know, and we kept losing points, and 382 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 3: I was trying so hard not to be frustrated, but 383 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 3: I hate losing. We lost so bad I almost went 384 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 3: my keys back in my car again just to experience 385 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 3: that punishment yet again. Right, your partner was. 386 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,359 Speaker 1: Who my partner was, Philip Phillips exactly. 387 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 3: One of the greatest pickball players in music history. 388 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems like it, actually. 389 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: I mean, he is a sensational player, and we did 390 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: win the amateur part of that tournament. But I will 391 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: have to say that Philip Phillips definitely carried our team along. 392 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 3: You guys ended up beating Dirks. 393 00:16:57,760 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: We did. 394 00:16:58,760 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't know. 395 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 3: You guys want the champitship. 396 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 2: Yeah it happened. 397 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 3: Look at this, I get somebody who's never played, and 398 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 3: Morgan gets the greatest musical pick a ball player in 399 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 3: the history of pick aball. I was talking to Philip like, ay, man, 400 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 3: do you play? Is it me all the time? It 401 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 3: weren't a league. We played all the time. 402 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: You can tell why the clothes he showed up into 403 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:16,120 Speaker 1: he did? 404 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 2: He did, he did, And it actually so. 405 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 1: It came down like in the normal like the normal competition, 406 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: we were up against Dirks and Ben, Dirks's guitar player, 407 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 1: who's amazing pick a ball player too, and so it 408 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: was Dirk's and we lost to them, and then we 409 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: went into the like whatever the other round is, and 410 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: then we won our way back to the final against them, 411 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 1: and then we beat them. And so the final was 412 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: actually this full game where you played two points of 413 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 1: singles and then the other two players swap in and out. 414 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: So it was Ben and Philip Phillips, who were both 415 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:47,120 Speaker 1: great players, and then Dirks and I against each other 416 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,919 Speaker 1: and first to eleven and we just got away with it. 417 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 3: Well, congratulations to you for getting a much better partner 418 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 3: than me. 419 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 2: I deserve any congratulations to that. But yes, not. 420 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 3: Because it's Chris, Because because guys, I never played, and 421 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 3: I knew that if I had a teammate that'd played, 422 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 3: we had a chance to win the thing. But whatever, 423 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 3: what'd you get trophy or something? 424 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 1: Uh? 425 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 2: That gave us a paddle? 426 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 3: Didn't you think those pros were awesome? 427 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 1: Yeah? I was actually shocked. I grew up playing tennis 428 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 1: and so like, I was very aware of the difference 429 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:21,880 Speaker 1: between a pro tennis player and an amateur tennis. 430 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 2: Player that thought that were okay. 431 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: But pickleball is one of those things you can't tell 432 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 1: when you watch a video if it comes up on 433 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 1: your Instagram or whatever versus in real life, you can 434 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 1: really see how much better they are. 435 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 3: Then it's just like, first of all, it's a lot 436 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 3: of dinks over the net, yeah, which I never do 437 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 3: because I don't know why. I didn't know why you 438 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 3: would do that. But you're playing two on two or 439 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 3: doubles as they call it. Yeah, I'm from the streets, 440 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 3: we call it two on two. 441 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 1: I love it. 442 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 3: Basketball or whatever, and so it's you get up and 443 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 3: dk think and you just dink it at little angles 444 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 3: until somebody screws up and dinks it a little too high. 445 00:18:56,600 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 3: Then it's just and the reflexes these people that wild 446 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 3: to see. Yeah, who thought pickleball would take such athleticism? 447 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty well a lot of those. 448 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 1: A lot of those guys and girls are all kind 449 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:11,640 Speaker 1: of X pro tennis players as well, or maybe they're 450 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: tennis pros in their hometown or whatever, and now they're like, 451 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:17,120 Speaker 1: you know, taking on this new sport and doing really well. 452 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 3: My friend Andy Roddick one half million dollars playing a tournament. Well, 453 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 3: there you go, with the torn meniscus in his knee. 454 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 3: He's oh really, He toured the day before the tournament. 455 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 1: Yeah right. I mean he's about as an elite as 456 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: an athlete can get, though he. 457 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 3: Never even played. He texted me and was like, you 458 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 3: ever played pickleball? I said, yeah? He said, you any good? 459 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 3: I said I, And I was thinking about you specifically 460 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 3: and Brett, because I beat Brett a few times, but 461 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 3: I didn't beat you, And I was like, you know what, 462 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 3: I can play with him? I wouldn't say I better 463 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:45,919 Speaker 3: than the guys that are pretty good here, but I 464 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 3: can I can compete. I said, why are you gonna 465 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 3: start playing? He goes, start playing? 466 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 1: No? 467 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 3: Am I going to play? Once? Yes? I said, what 468 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:54,679 Speaker 3: are you doing? Because I'm gona play a tournament And 469 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 3: I said, yeah, why He goes, it's for a million 470 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 3: dollars and I was like, oh, he goes, I just 471 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 3: signed a contract. I never played in my life, and 472 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 3: so I'm like, oh, that's all. And so then I 473 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 3: kept keeping track like how's it going, how's it going? 474 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:08,400 Speaker 3: And he would text me, and then the day before 475 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 3: he's like, I tore the meniscus in my knee. I 476 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 3: don't know what I'm gonna do. And I swear to 477 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 3: all I'm thinking of is can I bet on this? 478 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 3: Because I'm bet against him. If I could have found 479 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 3: a place to. 480 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: Bet, you bet the injury. 481 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought I had inst information. It was listed 482 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 3: nowhere or I would have. And this is the same 483 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 3: guy who when I went on Dancing with the Stars 484 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 3: because I was at like forty one, I think you've 485 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 3: put two thousand dollars I'm gonna win. I was the 486 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 3: worst odds. That's the same game who bet on me 487 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 3: to win. I was gonna bet against them. 488 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:32,880 Speaker 1: Wow. 489 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 2: True friendship, True friendship. 490 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 1: Now. The best thing about pickleball, though, is as good 491 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 1: as the pros are, and how amazing that experience was 492 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: is that it's one of those games where you don't 493 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 1: have to be very good. I have a good time. 494 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 3: You can get to be pretty good pretty quick. 495 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. We had like my whole band and crew last 496 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: weekend out on the road. 497 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 2: We set up a net. 498 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,160 Speaker 1: Like half of them never even played before, but they're 499 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: all like kind of sent me athletic dudes, and we 500 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: ended up having a great game for like fifteen or 501 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: twenty minutes. So that's the best thing about the sports 502 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: to me. 503 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 3: My trainer also, my friend's name is Kevin Klug, and 504 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 3: we have a court in the backyard. It's a tennis 505 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 3: court that we've turned into a little pickleball court and 506 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 3: so and we just did it recently. But he's like, 507 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 3: I never played before, and he's just played college football, 508 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 3: Like he's jacked right right right, and he's like oh, 509 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 3: and like he's trying to kill it at first, but 510 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 3: like three games in he's like, oh, I get it, 511 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 3: and then he became obsessed with it. Like most people do. 512 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 2: The strategy. 513 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty good. It's a pretty good game. So 514 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 3: how surfing is your number one? Though? If you're gonna 515 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 3: do something active, like you'll chase, you'll fly around the 516 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,120 Speaker 3: country to surf a world, I should. 517 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 1: Say, well, now, yeah, because I live here and there's 518 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: no there's no waves. 519 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 3: But I'm saying you will. Let you will travel though, too, 520 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 3: like you will purposefully seek out somewhere to go just 521 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 3: to have a great surf. Is that what you call it? 522 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 3: A great surf? Good serf? 523 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah? Yeah, Like how was your surf? 524 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 3: If ybody asked that question? 525 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: Ever, great? 526 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,719 Speaker 3: But does that actually ask like, how was your surf? Now? 527 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 3: Are the waves? 528 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 1: Yeah? Great? 529 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 2: I think you did well. 530 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 3: But ask me how How would you ask me how 531 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 3: my day of surfing was? 532 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: How was it? 533 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 3: No? Oh my god? How was the That's how you 534 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 3: would say how? 535 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: How? Yeah? 536 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:10,120 Speaker 2: Did you get out this morning? 537 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 1: Did you get any. 538 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,919 Speaker 3: Okay, now this is the lingo I was Did you 539 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 3: get out? 540 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 1: It was it fun? 541 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 3: Did you get out? Meaning? Were the waves acceptable enough 542 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 3: for you to take your board and enter the water? 543 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 2: Yes? 544 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,919 Speaker 1: And I think the conversation maybe depends who you're talking to. 545 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 2: If I was talking to a pro surfer. 546 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: Or some of my mates that I know that take 547 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: it very seriously, would be very different to some of 548 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: my mates that just have long boards out in LA 549 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 1: and kind of you know, smash around on the weekends. 550 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 2: But either way you go, it's a fun time. 551 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,640 Speaker 3: Where's the best place in the world that you have 552 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 3: been you have surfed? 553 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: Oh man, there's lots, there's lots of great place. 554 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:47,640 Speaker 3: When I say though, the best place you've ever been, 555 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 3: and you can even associate with a single time or 556 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 3: adventure you've had at that place, Where's the best place 557 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,120 Speaker 3: you have been, the best time, best surf you've ever had. 558 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: I do remember really fun week when one of my mates, 559 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:07,439 Speaker 1: who is Australian Indonesian, he got married in Bali and 560 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: we all went to Bali for the wedding and I 561 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 1: did get amazing waves there all around, like on almost 562 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,159 Speaker 1: every coastline of that place, which was pretty awesome. That 563 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 1: was a long time ago now, but I still remember 564 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: some of the waves from that, so that's good. 565 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:22,360 Speaker 2: I had a session at home in. 566 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: Australia as well, in Byron Bay, which has now become 567 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: quite a famous place. 568 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 2: That was pretty That was pretty old time too. 569 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 3: Is surfing like pizza, where even if it's not that good, 570 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 3: it's still real good. 571 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I mean, I'm sure it's different for everyone, 572 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: but for me, I didn't realize how much of a 573 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 1: big part of my life it was, even like not 574 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,439 Speaker 1: necessarily just the surfing aspect, but being near the ocean, 575 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,919 Speaker 1: spending time in the ocean. There's so many aspects to that, 576 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: obviously being outside, being active, being in the salt water, 577 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: but also like just being quiet for a second, also 578 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: understanding the power of the ocean, how small that makes 579 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 1: you feel. And there's something sort of meditative about surfing too. 580 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 1: When you're on the wave, you can't I mean maybe 581 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: you can, but you don't. You don't think about anything 582 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: else other than what you're doing at that exact time, 583 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: and that's a very kind of relaxing place to be. 584 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: At least for me. That's a state that I find 585 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 1: aspirational now. So I didn't realize how much I was 586 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 1: going to miss that until I didn't have it anymore 587 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:25,120 Speaker 1: and sort of felt myself looking for things that made 588 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:26,120 Speaker 1: me feel like that, you know. 589 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 3: The only time I have that, or I'm so consumed 590 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 3: in something that I'm thinking of nothing else. Is when 591 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 3: I'm playing Madden Football in PlayStation. There you go, yeah, 592 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 3: I'm nowhere. Cool, it's not nature. But it's like I'm 593 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 3: so focused. Yeah, I got to figure out the defensive 594 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 3: scheme to stop well the computer. But I tell my wife, like, 595 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 3: that's what I can do and just almost be mindless. Yeah, 596 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 3: because I'm thinking about it, and yeah, you make people 597 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 3: make fun of me, but I can almost escape what 598 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 3: feels like the gears never stopping in my mind. Yeah, 599 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 3: when I'm sitting there on the video game. 600 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 1: Well, it's like it's that that balance of like you're 601 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 1: fully engaged. Your brain is fully engaged in what you're doing, 602 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 1: but like the monkey mind as they call it, has 603 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: been kind of eliminated because you don't have space for it. 604 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: You need to focus at all on this one thing. 605 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: So for me, that's what that is. That's it's not 606 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: like I've never aspired to be a great surfer, all 607 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,159 Speaker 1: the best, like you know, anything like that. It's just 608 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 1: a it's a physical and mental experience that. 609 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 2: I grew up with and and I feel like I need. 610 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 4: Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor, 611 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,439 Speaker 4: and we're back on the Bobby Cast. 612 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 3: Are there people from where you're from that ended up 613 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 3: turning that into a career, like a pro career pro surfers? 614 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 3: Is that much? Is that big in your town that 615 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 3: you're near the coast? 616 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there's there's a there's Yeah. I grew 617 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 1: up with some guys who were really good, for sure, 618 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 1: and some of them took it really seriously, and I 619 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: mean processing is tough, man like, unless you're in that 620 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:10,199 Speaker 1: top twenty, Like, it's a tough sport to be to 621 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: be in. And some of them went and sort of 622 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 1: chased after that, and some of them made a distinct 623 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,159 Speaker 1: choice to say, this is the thing that I love most. 624 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 2: In my life. 625 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 1: I'm going to keep it as that and not try 626 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 1: to sort of mess with it in a professional way. 627 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 3: I guess I'm wondering about sports culture where you're from. 628 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 3: And I asked this because we me and you Brett 629 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 3: went up to Iowa to watch a Arkansas basketball game 630 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:34,919 Speaker 3: that was fun, and I remember You've been like, well, 631 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 3: this is not how this is not college in Australia. 632 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 3: Everybody gets together and there were like four schools there too, 633 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 3: and it wasn't even like super like people just going 634 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 3: I mean I was going bananas, but like it wasn't 635 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 3: just people. 636 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 2: You were, which is great to see. 637 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 3: By the way, it's my favorite thing in the whrrorle. Yeah, 638 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:53,160 Speaker 3: that's it. That's that's my favorite place. 639 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. 640 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 3: So what did you have collegiate athletics in Australia and 641 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:01,120 Speaker 3: were they as as as big as they are here? 642 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 3: But just different sports? 643 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,160 Speaker 1: There is I'm sure there is, but. 644 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 3: Where you're from, like what you grew up around and 645 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 3: it we're supposed to. 646 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 1: I think the main difference in Australia is with the 647 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,679 Speaker 1: like the big mainstream sports is there's no rules on 648 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: when you can turn pro or go pro, so like 649 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 1: if you're an extremely talented rugby player rugby league player 650 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:25,400 Speaker 1: when you're sixteen or seventeen. 651 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 3: So rugby is a major sport if you go the first, 652 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 3: that's a major sport you grow up around. Yeah. 653 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, rugby, rugby league AFL. 654 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 1: And cricket. I would say the main ones. 655 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 3: What's the difference in rugby and rugby league, Like they're 656 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:37,679 Speaker 3: very slight differences. 657 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 1: It's kind of ridiculous how similar they are. It's the 658 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: same game though there's similar concepts. Yeah, like if you 659 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 1: maybe if you watched it like not knowing. If you 660 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 1: didn't know either of the sports, you might be confused 661 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 1: at first. 662 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 2: I mean, if you know the sports at all, you 663 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 2: can tell. 664 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 3: But same ball, similar ball, Yeah, not even the same 665 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 3: bob one. 666 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 1: Has like a slightly more curved, slightly more pointy ends. 667 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 3: Why would you play one the other? 668 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 1: I think historically, and people will probably call me out 669 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 1: for this if it's wrong place do, but I think 670 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 1: historically one was more of a working class version of 671 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:09,880 Speaker 1: the game and one was more of an upper class 672 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:11,400 Speaker 1: version of the game, and. 673 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 3: So I played the working class. 674 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 1: Well, my town was definitely the working class version of 675 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 1: the games. The Rugby League and the Newcastle Knights is 676 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,120 Speaker 1: my home team, which will always always be my team. 677 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 1: But yeah, they're the two major kind of rugby sports, 678 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 1: and then cricket and AFL as well, which is bigger 679 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:27,919 Speaker 1: in different parts of Australia than where I grew up in. 680 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,959 Speaker 3: When I went to Australia, I thought it felt like 681 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 3: a very friendly San Diego everything about it except people 682 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 3: drop on the other side of the road. 683 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, but it was. 684 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 3: It felt very much like America and where I was 685 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 3: now I was in Sydney, right it was in the city, right, 686 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 3: and I remember everybody being cool, and I remember I 687 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 3: saw a bunch of people gathered at a sporting event. 688 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 3: I'm like, let me go check that out, and I went. 689 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 3: It was a cricket match. Yeah, I know what the 690 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 3: crap was happening. Yeah, people were in chicken buckets on 691 00:28:56,320 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 3: their head or something. Is that ring a belt? Were 692 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 3: buckets on their head? Or is that just that one 693 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 3: team that was doing that. I don't know, I mean, 694 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 3: it must be one team. 695 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 1: Is every possibility they like, often there'll be a theme 696 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: around a specific game or something like that, or a 697 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 1: big charity event around a specific game. 698 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 3: But it was like baseball and lacrosse and like horse 699 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 3: polo without the horses. Like that's what that game felt 700 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 3: like where I didn't really know, but I felt like 701 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 3: the goal was to keep the ball and play and 702 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 3: you can also hit the ball behind you yep. And 703 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 3: the games would last days. 704 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, five, there's a five day version of that game. 705 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 1: Yeah what? 706 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 2: Yeah? 707 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 3: How many? I don't even know the questions to ask about. 708 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 2: Two teams they each get. 709 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 3: You played two winnings in five days. 710 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, if you can go five days, it can end 711 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 1: early too, though, if one team really dominates, that's crazy. 712 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess I just am draw into sports. I'm 713 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 3: such a sports guy here, so I'm so curious about 714 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 3: very similar cultures but that have completely different sports culture. 715 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, well they're pretty similar. I mean they're similar. I 716 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 1: would say that baseball is out is like cricket. Cricket 717 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 1: and baseball would be like interchangeable, and then the NFL 718 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 1: football would be interchange with rugby or AFL or rugby league. 719 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 1: Whichever coach you followed the most basketball? 720 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 3: Did you guys follow NBA there? Yes? 721 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: Uh, there was. There has been like pro basketball leagues 722 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 1: in Australia on and off. There was when I was 723 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 1: a kid, and I used to love going to it 724 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: actually in my hometown. But through the years it's been 725 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: less and honestly, I think the most promising basketball players 726 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: in Australia generally try to you know, they want to 727 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 1: be over here and competing on the level that happens 728 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 1: in this country. 729 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 3: Are you a pop artist over there? 730 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: I mean I'm definitely a country how does it? But 731 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 1: they do play, they play. 732 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 2: They're playing a lot of country music in Australia at 733 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 2: the moment. 734 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 3: And that's the answer. Pop artist to me means are 735 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 3: you getting played on top forty playlists or stations? Are 736 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 3: you being put in top four? Or I guess top. 737 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 3: I worked in pop forever, but it just meant the 738 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 3: most popular music. Like we played poper Road Caught my Live, 739 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 3: and then we play Britney Spears, then we play jay 740 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 3: Z right, so I guess there? Are you popular? Well? 741 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, we just put a tour on sale 742 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 1: last night and I did three hours of press yesterday, 743 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 1: and I spoke to all of the proper radio sessions. 744 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 3: And how do to go? Do you sell tickets? 745 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 2: It went really well. 746 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 1: We were adding shows and pretty much all the cities, 747 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 1: which is really cool. Good for you. 748 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 3: I were about to do that. I'm gonna list some cities. 749 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 3: I'm gonna do like eight to ten cities. 750 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. 751 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 3: I don't know if you're like me, but I get 752 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 3: really nervous, and. 753 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 2: I get so nervous too. 754 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 1: I get so nervous too, and then like you know, 755 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: for it to go well, it's like the biggest wave 756 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 1: of good feelings but also a sigh of relief. 757 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 3: You know, I get so nervous. 758 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 2: How does that show up for you? How does no 759 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 2: show up for you. 760 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 3: In that situation. I because I'll do theaters in each 761 00:31:56,240 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 3: seat is accounted for it, like you literally buy seats seats, 762 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 3: so it's not like a show that would have like 763 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 3: a amphitheater with a GA part of it club where 764 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 3: you go, how many tickets two hundred and thirty six, Okay, 765 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 3: what we need to sell whatever? More So, ILL do 766 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 3: theaters that are around fifteen hundred to two thousand people, 767 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 3: and if it doesn't sell sixty five to seventy five 768 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 3: percent in the first weekend, I might kill myself. That's 769 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 3: what I think. Yeah, and I've been lucky enough that 770 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 3: a lot of them sell out or do eighty percent 771 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 3: eighty five percent, but I'm like, I'm just so scared 772 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 3: that well, I guess I'm over and I'm irrelevant now 773 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 3: and nobody cares, like I'm petrified to that, and so 774 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 3: that's what I think. Well, if I don't sell fifty 775 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 3: to sixty five percent, because that's kind of but the 776 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 3: data says if you can sell that, you can still 777 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 3: sell out a show. So if I'm like, if I don't, 778 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 3: might just kill myself. 779 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 2: Here's a question I have for you. 780 00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 1: You do so many things, how do you think of 781 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:03,239 Speaker 1: your like, are you a radio guy that does this 782 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 1: other stuff? Are you a TV personality that does radio music? 783 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 1: Are you a music guy first that does How do 784 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 1: you think about that? 785 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 3: I'm a radio guy for sure, number one, number one. 786 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 3: But radio is this, radio is any sort of audio. 787 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 3: I'm an audio guy. That's what I should say. I 788 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 3: feel first and foremost like I'm a long form audio 789 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 3: guy because I feel like that is where bonds are made. 790 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 3: I know, I listen to shows, like a podcast I 791 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 3: listen to is part of my take. It's a sports show. 792 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 3: Two guys I never met on my life. They don't 793 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:34,479 Speaker 3: know who I am, but I feel like I know 794 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 3: them and like I depend on them and Bill Simmons, 795 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 3: like I roll a Bill Simmons every Monday, Wednesday Friday, 796 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 3: Like I have this relationship with them because I spend Monday, Wenday, 797 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 3: Friday or Tuesday, Thursday or whatever the case is. I 798 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 3: spend two and three hours with these people. And so 799 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 3: it takes me to have that relationship to understand what 800 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 3: people have with me. And so that's why, first and 801 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 3: foremost I'm an audio guy, radio podcast, whatever the case is. 802 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 3: And then after that, I just still crap against the 803 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 3: wall and hope something sticks because I just don't feel 804 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 3: like I'm that that dynamic at anything. So I tried 805 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 3: to jump in head first and learn as much as 806 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 3: I can, as fast as I can. With stand up comedy, 807 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,359 Speaker 3: that's all I did. I was like, I've never done 808 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 3: this before. Oh here we go, and I went from tear. 809 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,439 Speaker 3: It's like pickleball. I went from terrible to pretty good 810 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 3: pretty quick. 811 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 1: Can I just jump in there? Stand up comedy is 812 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 1: nothing like pickleball. 813 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 2: It is completely terrifying to me. The idea of doing that. 814 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 3: Absolutely, I'll give you the terrifying part. But I'm I 815 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 3: get terrified of heights, not of looking like a fool. Right, 816 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 3: I'm okay with that. I've done my whole life looking 817 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,360 Speaker 3: like an idiot. And I can work quick on my feet, 818 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 3: like I do know. My skill is that is working quick. 819 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 3: So I would say that with stand up it was 820 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 3: like pickleball to me, where I got pretty good relatively 821 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 3: in a timely manner. I won't say fast, but it's 822 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 3: going from pretty good to good. That's unless you're doing 823 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,479 Speaker 3: it every day. It is almost impossible. It is such 824 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 3: such a craft and such a skill. It's something you 825 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 3: have to hone every night. And I have friends who 826 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 3: do it as a career. That's why I will never 827 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 3: call myself a comedian. And I can sell more tickets 828 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,799 Speaker 3: than a lot of my friends. I can sell more 829 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 3: tickets to do on a comedy show than a lot 830 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 3: of my friends who are comedians. But they're still way 831 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 3: better of a comedian than I am. Right now, I 832 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 3: think I'm getting pretty good. Still, I getting a little better. 833 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I went. 834 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 3: I did a ten minut said at the Operaty last night, 835 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,399 Speaker 3: mostly new stuff and the opera is a tough crowd 836 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 3: because they're older and some of the stuff doesn't work 837 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 3: on and it was good, and I walked off going like, man, 838 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 3: I might be getting pretty good at this. That's usually 839 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 3: met with a real bomb soon, But that to me. 840 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 3: I'm an audio guy. I love doing comedy. TV is 841 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 3: super easy and cool. That's like the fancy jewel. And 842 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 3: then writing books sucks. 843 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 2: It's just so much. 844 00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 3: It's the worst. Yeah, it's it's terrible, worst part of 845 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 3: the job. I mean, I created the job, but it's 846 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 3: worst part of the job. I hate it, hate every 847 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 3: second of it because it's just NonStop and you pour 848 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 3: over it and you have to relive all this crap 849 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 3: that you already went through because you want to put 850 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 3: the crap out there and you want to put the 851 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 3: good stuff out there, and you're reliving these traumas and 852 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:16,879 Speaker 3: someone's then looking at it going, yeah, this is here 853 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 3: where you talk about the drug addiction. Oh, can you 854 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,880 Speaker 3: make that little funnier? And you're like, man, oh my god, 855 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,279 Speaker 3: yeah I know. He So what about you? Would you 856 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 3: say that you are a first and foremost? Are you 857 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:33,320 Speaker 3: a songwriter? Are you a singer? Are you I don't know. 858 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,800 Speaker 3: How would you define what you do as your favorite 859 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 3: part of it? Because you are all of it, just 860 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 3: like I am all of these things? 861 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:42,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, what are you? I think I started as a 862 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 1: stop I think I started as an entertainer. I think 863 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,400 Speaker 1: that's like the first I remember the first gig that 864 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 1: I went to play as a thirteen year old, like 865 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,440 Speaker 1: literally thirteen, Like we forced me and my mate forced 866 00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 1: my eleven year old brother to learn how to play 867 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,960 Speaker 1: bass guitar to play it is a gig And I 868 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 1: didn't even think about it. I was like, Oh, we 869 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:04,920 Speaker 1: better write some songs for this show. 870 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 3: So you got the show before you wrote the songs 871 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:08,400 Speaker 3: and then you're like, well, we got a show coming up, 872 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:09,360 Speaker 3: we better write some songs. 873 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, And they were the first, the first songs I wrote, 874 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 1: and they were terrible. I'm not saying they were good songs, 875 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:17,800 Speaker 1: but that was kind of the the impetus to write, 876 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,239 Speaker 1: to write those songs. And I think more and more, 877 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:22,800 Speaker 1: especially you know, having lived in this town for a 878 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:24,800 Speaker 1: little while and worked in this town for a little while, 879 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 1: the songwriting part is the part that I've fallen in 880 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 1: love with more. And I think that's probably evened out 881 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 1: over the last however, seven or eight years since I 882 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:33,319 Speaker 1: got here. 883 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:37,719 Speaker 3: So entertainer first, and then you started to love the 884 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 3: other things. 885 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I started. 886 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:39,680 Speaker 3: I love songwriting. 887 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think you know, I would consider myself 888 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,239 Speaker 1: a songwriter, a singer songwriter now, like a true sense of. 889 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:47,800 Speaker 3: The world, I would I would consider you that, I 890 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:51,319 Speaker 3: would consider you a singer songwriter. What do you This 891 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,400 Speaker 3: is it's a weird, vague question, but what do you 892 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,400 Speaker 3: feel like is the best song you've ever written that 893 00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,879 Speaker 3: when you listen back to it, you don't question any 894 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,960 Speaker 3: small part or how the bridge got there or that lyric. 895 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,400 Speaker 3: What do you feel that has been recorded is the 896 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 3: best song you've ever written. 897 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:08,600 Speaker 1: I mean, in terms of things that I don't want 898 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 1: to go back and change. I think over for You 899 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:14,400 Speaker 1: is probably it's probably that that song over Few and 900 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:19,600 Speaker 1: on My Own Again both feel like very pure representations 901 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 1: of where I was at a time. I would also 902 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,760 Speaker 1: say a song called Dance with Me on my first 903 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:25,720 Speaker 1: album would be that as well. 904 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:27,839 Speaker 2: Like they sound. 905 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,759 Speaker 1: Exactly the way that I intended them too. 906 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 3: When you you said over what was the second one? 907 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:37,479 Speaker 1: You say? Over for you? On my Own again? 908 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 3: Okay, on my own again? When that came out, that 909 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,719 Speaker 3: had nothing to do and you can correct me if 910 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 3: I'm right or wrong. I had nothing to do with 911 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:46,320 Speaker 3: your relationship status. 912 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:46,440 Speaker 5: Right? 913 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:47,640 Speaker 3: Don you already have that song and you were putting 914 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,800 Speaker 3: it out and people were just saying that just drawing 915 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 3: conclusions or did it? 916 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:53,920 Speaker 1: No, that was a chorus that was written kind of 917 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 1: sort of shortly after all that it was went down. 918 00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, because I remember it coming out and sing it 919 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,279 Speaker 3: on Instagram, and maybe I just made that story up 920 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 3: in my head and people were like uh. 921 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 1: And you were like, well, the other two songs, maybe 922 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,080 Speaker 1: that's what the other two songs that came out on 923 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:12,560 Speaker 1: the Life Upside Down ep you were from May last year. 924 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,920 Speaker 1: We started recording those, so they sort of there was 925 00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,759 Speaker 1: no like chronology that made sense there with us. 926 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:19,120 Speaker 3: What were those titles? Let me see if I could 927 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 3: make that work? 928 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:22,200 Speaker 2: Hey little Mama and all right here, Hey. 929 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:23,560 Speaker 3: Little Mama does not work to be angry at you 930 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,120 Speaker 3: for that one was the other one? All right here? 931 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:25,520 Speaker 1: Yeah? 932 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:27,839 Speaker 3: Your hardes see what does hey little mama? 933 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:27,960 Speaker 1: Mike? 934 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 3: Well you playing a little bit of this? 935 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 1: There you go? 936 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:48,279 Speaker 3: Now, I look at because I played this on our 937 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,719 Speaker 3: Country Top thirty, our Countdown and I played the song 938 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:52,680 Speaker 3: and I remember looking at the songwriters on it. 939 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 1: It was like, Laura Belts, Yeah, you, Jimmy, Josh, Josh 940 00:39:58,719 --> 00:39:59,120 Speaker 1: Thompson and. 941 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 3: Oh okay so Josh okay, Yeah, that's pretty pretty powerful 942 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,920 Speaker 3: a group of songwriters there. Do you guys do that together? 943 00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:10,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, Josh was on on Zoom, so he was up 944 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:12,720 Speaker 1: on a screen kind of like this in the studio. 945 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:13,920 Speaker 1: But yeah, before I did it. 946 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:15,879 Speaker 3: Is that the only song you wrote that day? 947 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 1: Yes, I've written a number of songs with Jimmy and Laura, 948 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:22,600 Speaker 1: but that was the only one we wrote. 949 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:24,839 Speaker 3: That's what I was asking because there I've seen them 950 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,319 Speaker 3: listed in your songs before. I wonder if you'd written 951 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:31,360 Speaker 3: them when you record Hey Little Mama, is that title 952 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,960 Speaker 3: Hey little Mama. I don't know, like, hey baby, hey 953 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,239 Speaker 3: little but did you think people are gonna think I'm like, 954 00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:38,560 Speaker 3: hey sweetheart? 955 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:40,719 Speaker 1: Or no, people are going to think, you. 956 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,719 Speaker 3: Know, because you know dudes being like hey baby, hey sweetheart, 957 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,920 Speaker 3: Hey little sugar lips? You know, like, did that come 958 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 3: in your mind at all? I guess it did. 959 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:50,319 Speaker 1: That didn't come into my mind. 960 00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 3: I made it. Should probably written hey little Mama. 961 00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,399 Speaker 1: I thought it was a cute nickname at the time. 962 00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,120 Speaker 3: Got it It probably is? 963 00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, it probably is. Yeah, thanks, though I hope I know. 964 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,640 Speaker 3: I don't want I don't want to stick. And I 965 00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 3: like the song so much, like I said, I played 966 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,399 Speaker 3: it on the Countdown and I think it's a really 967 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:12,360 Speaker 3: catchy song. But I wondered when you were like, hey baby, 968 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:13,760 Speaker 3: I don't know, hey, hey. 969 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:14,920 Speaker 2: Sugar Lips will be the follow up? 970 00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:15,319 Speaker 1: Yeah? 971 00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:18,520 Speaker 3: Are you like picking up what I'm putting down at all? 972 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:18,840 Speaker 1: No? 973 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 3: I really do, because I just would never say to something. 974 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:23,880 Speaker 3: Maybe it's because you're just better looking at like more 975 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,080 Speaker 3: of like a dude, like hey little mom. I could 976 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,440 Speaker 3: never pull that off. Maybe that's what I'm jealous of. 977 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:29,640 Speaker 2: It's not like a stranger. 978 00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:31,640 Speaker 1: Let's get to the root of it. I'm insecure and 979 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,479 Speaker 1: not walking down the street saying hey little mama to people. 980 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:38,120 Speaker 1: I think a song. No, no, it's not like the whistle. 981 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,160 Speaker 1: It's like it's an endearing one. I think. 982 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,400 Speaker 3: Okay, well I still couldn't If I went into my 983 00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,239 Speaker 3: house right now and my wife is over there right now, 984 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,399 Speaker 3: I said, hey, lit Mama, she would laugh out loud 985 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:47,640 Speaker 3: at me. 986 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:49,439 Speaker 1: Well, you couldn't do it like that. You can't trail 987 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:50,280 Speaker 1: off at the end. 988 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:54,839 Speaker 3: Hey lo ma, hey little mom. 989 00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,680 Speaker 1: Look, I believe in you believe I think. 990 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,240 Speaker 3: All my insecurity it went to a head. I thought 991 00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,160 Speaker 3: at first it was like hey baby, No, it's just 992 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,160 Speaker 3: I can't pull it off. So I feel like I'm 993 00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,279 Speaker 3: jealous people who can pull off something like hey little 994 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,560 Speaker 3: Mama and people don't laugh at them. 995 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 1: Do you have it? 996 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:11,480 Speaker 2: Do you have a nickname that you use you? 997 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,919 Speaker 1: Is it just babe, hey baby or something like that? 998 00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, babe probably, yeah. 999 00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,080 Speaker 1: You go, But you didn't come out with that straight away, right. 1000 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:21,920 Speaker 1: You graduated to that after a little while of. 1001 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:26,040 Speaker 3: Her real name is babe. It's babe Caitlin her it's 1002 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,279 Speaker 3: her literal real name. Okay, Okay, I'm glad I asked that. Yeah, 1003 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:31,480 Speaker 3: to the root of my insecurities. 1004 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:44,560 Speaker 5: There The Bobby Cast will be right back. This is 1005 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:45,839 Speaker 5: the Bobby Cast. 1006 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,200 Speaker 3: On the Life Upside Down EP. It's gonna roll through 1007 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:57,880 Speaker 3: some of these real quick over for you. A little 1008 00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,680 Speaker 3: more music, a little more sonically. Is that sonically little different? 1009 00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:03,000 Speaker 3: Did the original version? Or if I just heard you 1010 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,480 Speaker 3: played on piano so many times, I'm just associating. 1011 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,520 Speaker 1: That, Yeah, there is a live version of just me 1012 00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:08,560 Speaker 1: like a vocal piano. 1013 00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,359 Speaker 3: That's what I have heard so many times, Mike, Where 1014 00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:24,399 Speaker 3: you play this again? When that song? I just want 1015 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:25,719 Speaker 3: to know what was going through your head the first 1016 00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:27,239 Speaker 3: time you played it, because I don't think you had 1017 00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,960 Speaker 3: any intention of it going viral because you didn't post it. 1018 00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:32,600 Speaker 3: That's the thing. There's no way you could add an 1019 00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:36,040 Speaker 3: intention because you didn't post it some random fan of 1020 00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:41,719 Speaker 3: yours posted on TikTok. Before you go play it, is 1021 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:43,520 Speaker 3: it a safe place where you feel like nothing you 1022 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,280 Speaker 3: say or play is actually going to leave that room? 1023 00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:48,080 Speaker 3: Or are you going all right, I'm gonna play this 1024 00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:51,200 Speaker 3: song that's very personal and it'll probably get out and 1025 00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:51,960 Speaker 3: it is what it is. 1026 00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:57,080 Speaker 1: Well, the first time I played it was at a 1027 00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:58,280 Speaker 1: festival in Australia. 1028 00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,960 Speaker 3: Because it wasn't that time that the recorded was oh okay. 1029 00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,520 Speaker 1: It was a festival in Austria called sam ser Rox 1030 00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,040 Speaker 1: and I walked out to the piano and it was 1031 00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:11,080 Speaker 1: the biggest headline show we'd ever played before, and uh, 1032 00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,200 Speaker 1: there's a lot going on at that time. Man, it 1033 00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:14,920 Speaker 1: was a really weird time of life. 1034 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,560 Speaker 3: And uh, I just for you to play that song, 1035 00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:19,920 Speaker 3: I just want to know what you're thinking as you 1036 00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:23,400 Speaker 3: play it as far as the song the life of 1037 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,640 Speaker 3: the song. Are you going this thing is going to 1038 00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:27,080 Speaker 3: exist now? Or are you doing like I do where 1039 00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:28,879 Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm gonna testing jokes on. If they don't work, 1040 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:30,399 Speaker 3: I'm either going to fix something or I'm never doing 1041 00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:30,799 Speaker 3: them again. 1042 00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:35,120 Speaker 1: I don't think it wasn't. It was so not pretymeditated 1043 00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,160 Speaker 1: that I didn't think about that stuff. It was a 1044 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:41,080 Speaker 1: I'm walking to the piano now, I feel like I 1045 00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:42,239 Speaker 1: need to play the song right now. 1046 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:44,919 Speaker 3: That was it. Did you have it in your mind 1047 00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:46,759 Speaker 3: that you would have played that song before the set 1048 00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:50,520 Speaker 3: started or was it a I might pivot and do this. 1049 00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,440 Speaker 1: It's kind of an open section of the set. It's 1050 00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,040 Speaker 1: a set where part of the set where I go 1051 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:00,759 Speaker 1: over and I played piano, and there's any one of 1052 00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,200 Speaker 1: like three or four songs I could play. And we 1053 00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:07,520 Speaker 1: had written this song the week before, but it was 1054 00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:09,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I was I guess there was a possibility 1055 00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,040 Speaker 1: that I could play it, but not enough that I'd 1056 00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,560 Speaker 1: practiced it enough, which is evidenced by the fact that 1057 00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,719 Speaker 1: if you listen to that first version that went viral 1058 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,760 Speaker 1: on TikTok, it's actually in a different key than. 1059 00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:23,080 Speaker 3: The actual No. One notices, and I wouldn't even notice that. 1060 00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,239 Speaker 2: The reason I noticed is because I went to the chorus. 1061 00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,279 Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, this is so much 1062 00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:28,520 Speaker 1: higher than I wrote this song. 1063 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:30,480 Speaker 2: Am I going to get to these notes? 1064 00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:32,640 Speaker 1: And I think it was purely for the fact that 1065 00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:34,640 Speaker 1: there was twenty two thousand people there. The amount of 1066 00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,080 Speaker 1: adrenaline in my body allowed me to sing that. 1067 00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:37,719 Speaker 2: Chorus that way. 1068 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,320 Speaker 1: But yeah, man, I don't know. 1069 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:42,240 Speaker 2: I can't. That's one of those moments I can't really explain. 1070 00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:45,799 Speaker 3: But when you furnished it, we were like, well, how 1071 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:47,920 Speaker 3: I get back? Oh, I got to get back to 1072 00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:48,279 Speaker 3: my set. 1073 00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:49,200 Speaker 1: I don't know. 1074 00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:54,120 Speaker 3: I just I have a joke series that haven't gotten 1075 00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:55,719 Speaker 3: too yet. It's about the history country music, and it's 1076 00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,360 Speaker 3: about and I'll relate this back to your story. But 1077 00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:00,840 Speaker 3: I thought I might do itlast night at the operator. 1078 00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:04,040 Speaker 3: I didn't yea, and I thought, if it feels right, 1079 00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:05,759 Speaker 3: I'm going to do it. But it's about the history 1080 00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:07,959 Speaker 3: country music and how I get really annoyed at people 1081 00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,319 Speaker 3: who say that things aren't country. And it's a very 1082 00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:12,680 Speaker 3: serious thing at the beginning, and it's you know, you 1083 00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,359 Speaker 3: get a bunch of dudes with Copenhagen and their lip going, 1084 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,800 Speaker 3: I ain't country, and they like to hate on anything 1085 00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:20,719 Speaker 3: that isn't The music that they've been taught was traditionally 1086 00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,640 Speaker 3: country music. I said, but what ain't country is them 1087 00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,000 Speaker 3: because country music came from two places. You either got 1088 00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,440 Speaker 3: to be a black artist or a European artist. And 1089 00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,400 Speaker 3: the black artists came from Africa. They're the ones who 1090 00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,160 Speaker 3: brought the banjos. That's why the banjos from is in 1091 00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,000 Speaker 3: the South, like they brought the banjo to America on 1092 00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:40,359 Speaker 3: slave ships. So country music black artists and European artists 1093 00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:44,040 Speaker 3: who had the fiddle, they met, they created country music, 1094 00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,560 Speaker 3: and so that if you want to root it back 1095 00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:51,279 Speaker 3: to what is really country. If you ain't European, are 1096 00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,200 Speaker 3: you in a black artist, you ain't country. And so 1097 00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:57,200 Speaker 3: I do this and that's the truth, and it's very serious, 1098 00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,239 Speaker 3: and I say, I don't want to run the whole 1099 00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,160 Speaker 3: joke here, but for the sake of this story, I say, 1100 00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,680 Speaker 3: nothing that you guys think is country is country. Shanaia Twain, 1101 00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:07,680 Speaker 3: she's from Canada, she ain't country. Keith Urban, he's from 1102 00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:09,520 Speaker 3: New Zealand. He and country and his last name is Urban. 1103 00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:12,400 Speaker 3: And then I go through whatever, and the joke ends 1104 00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:16,719 Speaker 3: up with you know and the songs you know, Garth 1105 00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,040 Speaker 3: Brooks and have friends in low places anymore. The lowest 1106 00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:20,360 Speaker 3: place his friend is when he's coming in on his 1107 00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:22,640 Speaker 3: G six or you know, he's he's calling Baton rouge 1108 00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:24,800 Speaker 3: from his private plane, that kind of stuff, right, So 1109 00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,160 Speaker 3: it lightens up a little bit. And it's always a 1110 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,319 Speaker 3: pivot place that I have if I feel really good 1111 00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:33,120 Speaker 3: about it or really passionate. And I haven't hit that 1112 00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:34,800 Speaker 3: spot yet, and I thought I was going to do 1113 00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,120 Speaker 3: it last night. And that's why I ask about that song, 1114 00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:38,880 Speaker 3: because it was a pivot place for you where you 1115 00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:42,279 Speaker 3: could have gone there, and you did. And then when 1116 00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:45,360 Speaker 3: it's over, can you stop thinking about it for the 1117 00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:46,880 Speaker 3: rest of the set or can you separate and just 1118 00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:48,680 Speaker 3: continue doing a really great Morgan show. 1119 00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:54,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean what was interesting about that is I 1120 00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:57,160 Speaker 1: went straight into an acoustic katama on another show and 1121 00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:00,320 Speaker 1: I played like a bunch of like for the just 1122 00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,000 Speaker 1: for the purpose of getting more songs in the set. 1123 00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,920 Speaker 1: I played like a medley of love songs straight after that. 1124 00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:10,480 Speaker 1: It was like extra extra epically heavy, you know, but 1125 00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,279 Speaker 1: it was it was there was like it was such 1126 00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,640 Speaker 1: a real human moment for me on stage, and I 1127 00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:21,040 Speaker 1: think as someone that's kind of always kind of been 1128 00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:25,040 Speaker 1: more private, that moment felt like a freeing kind of 1129 00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,880 Speaker 1: moment and I didn't realize it at the time until 1130 00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,080 Speaker 1: maybe after the show that like there was a weight 1131 00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:31,879 Speaker 1: lifted off my shoulders because I was like, oh cool, 1132 00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:35,960 Speaker 1: I just was able to say that do that. It 1133 00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:37,759 Speaker 1: was an amazing show too. It was amazing feeling the 1134 00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:41,520 Speaker 1: crowd is insane and went to bed going cool. I 1135 00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:43,120 Speaker 1: think we did the big show in my career and 1136 00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,000 Speaker 1: I feel really happy about it, you know, And then 1137 00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:46,919 Speaker 1: it wasn't until the next morning we woke up because 1138 00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:49,800 Speaker 1: the time difference with Australia and America that you know, 1139 00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:51,200 Speaker 1: people like you had played. 1140 00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:53,960 Speaker 3: Because we don't talk work. We really don't talk work. 1141 00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,280 Speaker 3: I mean just very early do we go music. 1142 00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:58,200 Speaker 2: No, it's mostly pickable. 1143 00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:02,440 Speaker 3: It's pickaball, or it's like light stuff yeah, or comedy 1144 00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:04,400 Speaker 3: stuff or podcast that we're listening to. Like it's like 1145 00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:06,360 Speaker 3: two people talk about when they're just friends. Yeah, So 1146 00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:08,239 Speaker 3: this stuff I don't get to ask it. But when 1147 00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,959 Speaker 3: you wake up and I've played it on my show, 1148 00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:12,960 Speaker 3: are you like, God, dang it, dude, I mean, are 1149 00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:14,479 Speaker 3: you like because that's okay? 1150 00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:15,640 Speaker 1: Are you like what? Like? 1151 00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:17,000 Speaker 3: Why did you make a deal out of this? 1152 00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:23,920 Speaker 1: I think my first reaction was, God, I wish I 1153 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:24,960 Speaker 1: played that in the right key. 1154 00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:33,000 Speaker 2: Oh look, I can't. It was such a weird. 1155 00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:36,600 Speaker 1: Time, man like, just emotionally and personally that I can't, 1156 00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:39,799 Speaker 1: like pinpoint and answer to that question specifically. 1157 00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:46,560 Speaker 3: Did I disappoint you? No, I mean, honestly, as as rough. 1158 00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:48,239 Speaker 1: A time that was and as hard of a time 1159 00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,200 Speaker 1: that that song came out of the way that I've 1160 00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:53,279 Speaker 1: related to people and connected with people through that song 1161 00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,520 Speaker 1: in the last six seven months has been an extremely 1162 00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:59,480 Speaker 1: positive experience. And I noticed as soon as that happened, 1163 00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:01,960 Speaker 1: when you guys played the song and people started to 1164 00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:05,800 Speaker 1: find out about it, that all the comments and messages 1165 00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:06,880 Speaker 1: I was getting changed. 1166 00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:11,680 Speaker 3: But did that start it? I guess, my my, it's 1167 00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:14,080 Speaker 3: not a fear because it already happened. But what I 1168 00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:18,640 Speaker 3: what my possibility is that makes me a little nervous 1169 00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:19,760 Speaker 3: and feel a little guilty. 1170 00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:20,440 Speaker 1: Is that? 1171 00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,480 Speaker 3: And maybe I just my ego is too big. But 1172 00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:26,480 Speaker 3: I feel like I was a part of the reason 1173 00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:28,440 Speaker 3: that a lot of the hard stuff that happened to 1174 00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,080 Speaker 3: you happen to you. But because if I just shut 1175 00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:32,600 Speaker 3: up and not played the song and just been like, well, 1176 00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:34,359 Speaker 3: I just do something. Yeah, I don't know, I feel 1177 00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:37,480 Speaker 3: like that. And then because I had you on the 1178 00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:39,520 Speaker 3: show right after, I feel like that kind of put 1179 00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:40,960 Speaker 3: a little target on you because of me. 1180 00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:44,080 Speaker 1: Nah, dude, I mean, if anything, I would say thank you, 1181 00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:47,359 Speaker 1: I will say like, I'm the kind of maybe kind 1182 00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,040 Speaker 1: of person that had I not played it and then 1183 00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:54,480 Speaker 1: you know, sat on a song like that for more 1184 00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:56,359 Speaker 1: few more weeks or a few more months or whatever, 1185 00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:58,479 Speaker 1: and maybe it never came out. I think that would 1186 00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:01,640 Speaker 1: be really like having the experience that I've had now, 1187 00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,200 Speaker 1: it would be sad to think that that song wouldn't 1188 00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:06,520 Speaker 1: have come out. So I'm really proud of it as 1189 00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:09,400 Speaker 1: a songwriter and as a person, and I appreciate you 1190 00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:10,200 Speaker 1: sharing it with people. 1191 00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:12,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're probably still mad, but and I don't know 1192 00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:16,120 Speaker 3: how and I'll get off this, but I don't know, 1193 00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:18,920 Speaker 3: and you can say nothing, and if I prefer you 1194 00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:20,719 Speaker 3: to say nothing, I just have to say this because 1195 00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:22,400 Speaker 3: people are like, just good to you, your friend. You 1196 00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:24,960 Speaker 3: didn't ask a question, so I'll maybe ask a question. 1197 00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:26,439 Speaker 3: I'm just gonna say, I know, the last few months 1198 00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:28,600 Speaker 3: have been extremely hard. Maybe not have the last few 1199 00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:31,400 Speaker 3: but in the last eight months it's been a very 1200 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:34,840 Speaker 3: difficult time. And I wouldn't have had the composure that 1201 00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,040 Speaker 3: you have had. And I'm just making a statement. If 1202 00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:38,400 Speaker 3: there's anything you want to say to that, you can 1203 00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:40,960 Speaker 3: or you can just say cool, thank you. But I 1204 00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,759 Speaker 3: would not have had the composure that you have had 1205 00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:45,920 Speaker 3: because I'd have been burning places down and I had 1206 00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:46,920 Speaker 3: to be in trouble and it have been a bad 1207 00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:48,920 Speaker 3: decision for me. And I don't know what if that's 1208 00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:52,279 Speaker 3: your parents the tatchya, I don't know who it was 1209 00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:59,560 Speaker 3: in your life that gave you whatever mature central part 1210 00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:02,359 Speaker 3: of your system that said, you know what, right now, 1211 00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:04,560 Speaker 3: I ain't good. It's gonna be a lot worse if 1212 00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:06,800 Speaker 3: I do something dumb. Whoever did that give them a 1213 00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:11,719 Speaker 3: medal because I compliment you on when it sucked real bad. 1214 00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:14,680 Speaker 3: You just sitting back and going this too, shop ass. 1215 00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:18,440 Speaker 2: Thanks man. Yeah, I really appreciate you saying that. 1216 00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:21,960 Speaker 1: And I I am very grateful for a lot of 1217 00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,680 Speaker 1: the people in my life around me that that I 1218 00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:27,080 Speaker 1: work with, that I'm related to and just friends you 1219 00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:31,000 Speaker 1: know that have been through similar versions of that, And 1220 00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:35,600 Speaker 1: that was the advice and that was what I tried 1221 00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:40,360 Speaker 1: to stick to. And yeah, I appreciate you saying it. 1222 00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:41,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember telling you a couple of my stories 1223 00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:44,359 Speaker 3: where I was like, dude, you don't believe this. Yeah, 1224 00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:47,560 Speaker 3: like mob, like I'll want people giving me death threats, 1225 00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:52,000 Speaker 3: and like just it sucks when the internet, the Internet's 1226 00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:55,399 Speaker 3: rough every individual. This is like sports a couple compared 1227 00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:56,000 Speaker 3: to sports teams. 1228 00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:57,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, I hate. 1229 00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:03,440 Speaker 3: Tennessee volunteer fans as a group, hate them, hate them. 1230 00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:05,799 Speaker 3: I'd eliminate them from the planet if I could. Yeah, 1231 00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,839 Speaker 3: I think every single single person like this individual. People 1232 00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:11,280 Speaker 3: that love Tennessee football are awesome. I never met an 1233 00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:15,240 Speaker 3: individual that loves Tennessee football that I don't like. They're amazing, 1234 00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:17,920 Speaker 3: But when they get that fan base together, I just 1235 00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:20,560 Speaker 3: want to kill them. Same thing with Texas Longhorns, Like 1236 00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,560 Speaker 3: I just hate them so much. Individually. I mean, I 1237 00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:26,480 Speaker 3: have Austin's home to me, Like, individually, I got some 1238 00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:28,719 Speaker 3: great friends that coach Texas or are a big but 1239 00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:32,399 Speaker 3: together as a group I hate. It's like the freaking Internet. Yeah, 1240 00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:36,840 Speaker 3: all together awful. Individually they're probably good people, but on 1241 00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:40,400 Speaker 3: the Internet, just terrible. And when it gangs up on you, 1242 00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:42,920 Speaker 3: it sucks. It felt like the whole world's against you. 1243 00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:47,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not a place that's set up for reasonable communication. 1244 00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:50,279 Speaker 1: It is not like it's definitely and you see that 1245 00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:52,919 Speaker 1: especially with politics in this country. It's like it's set 1246 00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,520 Speaker 1: up for a place where like the loudest, most, like 1247 00:53:55,680 --> 00:54:00,279 Speaker 1: outlandish voice, soul, like you know, commentator. 1248 00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:01,520 Speaker 3: Who gets the attention we'll get first. 1249 00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:02,280 Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. 1250 00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:04,759 Speaker 3: So is that weird for you here to see politics 1251 00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,000 Speaker 3: be so divisive? I mean, you're here, you're one of 1252 00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:10,120 Speaker 3: us now, But yeah, is it it's not is it 1253 00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:13,600 Speaker 3: like that there has that spilled over into Australia where 1254 00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:15,239 Speaker 3: now they're just going at each other as well. 1255 00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:21,880 Speaker 2: It's it's less, it's less, way less than it is 1256 00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:23,759 Speaker 2: here for sure. The football team things. 1257 00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:25,359 Speaker 1: What made me think of that is because I feel 1258 00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:27,800 Speaker 1: like here you kind of you kind of root for 1259 00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,120 Speaker 1: politicians the same way you do for football teams. And 1260 00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:33,719 Speaker 1: that's kind of just wild to me about Yeah, I 1261 00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:35,719 Speaker 1: just I say that to say that it's not really 1262 00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:37,440 Speaker 1: about making sense of things. It's more about like what 1263 00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:39,120 Speaker 1: team will be on and like yell as well as 1264 00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:41,840 Speaker 1: we can, and you know, you just kind of have 1265 00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:42,880 Speaker 1: to kind of acknowledge that. 1266 00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:46,560 Speaker 3: So the EP of all five of these songs, yeah, 1267 00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:49,520 Speaker 3: over for you. We hey a little moment, let me 1268 00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:52,000 Speaker 3: do all right here, like oh. 1269 00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:56,839 Speaker 1: It's by the way, I thank you mam. 1270 00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:59,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's good one. It's like Bronco listen to 1271 00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:01,040 Speaker 3: mu'sic but when it's. 1272 00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:02,680 Speaker 2: Not raining, yeah on the sunny day. 1273 00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:03,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that one. 1274 00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:07,239 Speaker 3: And then here's let's do on my own again that 1275 00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:12,839 Speaker 3: he mentioned earlier times up around Evan. 1276 00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:16,400 Speaker 1: Again. 1277 00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:19,960 Speaker 3: So you're going away, You're gonna do this tour and 1278 00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:22,799 Speaker 3: tickets are pretty good. You need a big ticket plug here. 1279 00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:24,200 Speaker 3: Are you pretty sold out everywhere? 1280 00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:28,120 Speaker 1: We're doing American shows over the summer which haven't been 1281 00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:30,759 Speaker 1: announced yet. Uh, there's just a handful of headline things. 1282 00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:32,600 Speaker 1: We're doing some festivals, and we're doing some stuff with 1283 00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:35,960 Speaker 1: Billy Carrington actually, which should be super fun before we 1284 00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:37,040 Speaker 1: go to Australia in August. 1285 00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:40,359 Speaker 3: Billy Carrington has sneaky hits. There's a lot of them, 1286 00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:43,560 Speaker 3: sneaky hits. It's like, oh, yeah, I look. 1287 00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:45,319 Speaker 1: At that one, Oh that one. Oh my god. 1288 00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:48,320 Speaker 3: Like a lot sneaky great songs. 1289 00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:50,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, a lot of them that sound good in 1290 00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:51,239 Speaker 2: the summer time too. 1291 00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:54,799 Speaker 3: Billy came to the studio. I like Billy. Billy came 1292 00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:58,080 Speaker 3: to the studio once. And I think Billy and I 1293 00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:00,759 Speaker 3: relate on the level of we don't really like it 1294 00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:04,759 Speaker 3: here sometimes. You know. I love my wife and my 1295 00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:07,239 Speaker 3: dogs and my crew that I brought here. I don't 1296 00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:10,880 Speaker 3: like this town that much industry wise, and that's probably 1297 00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:13,160 Speaker 3: why I've not been very involved in it. It's probably 1298 00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:18,600 Speaker 3: why it doesn't like me sometimes. And Billy kind of 1299 00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:21,360 Speaker 3: feels the same way, you know, He's like, I'm not 1300 00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:25,480 Speaker 3: staying in Nashville, and so I think we always kind 1301 00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:27,280 Speaker 3: of had that if he was living in Georgia or Hawaii, 1302 00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:29,319 Speaker 3: where he's out a lot now. And the last two 1303 00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:32,239 Speaker 3: times I've seen Billy, he's been like, hey, dude, take 1304 00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:35,680 Speaker 3: my number again. Come to Hawaii. Just come stay, You'll luk, 1305 00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:37,719 Speaker 3: just come You're good, Just come to stay with me 1306 00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:39,680 Speaker 3: and if you want to come over. And I'm like, 1307 00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:41,959 Speaker 3: I don't know Billy well enough to just make plans 1308 00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:44,400 Speaker 3: like I'm gonna go see Billy, but like for a 1309 00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:49,080 Speaker 3: dude to be like that, yeah, that's fairly welcoming, very welcoming. 1310 00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:50,879 Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you really feel like that, Like the town 1311 00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:51,400 Speaker 1: doesn't like you? 1312 00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:54,560 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah, town hates me? What in 1313 00:56:54,840 --> 00:57:00,880 Speaker 3: wh I never embraced it. I feel like there's there 1314 00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:05,600 Speaker 3: are good people here. I feel like generally it's just 1315 00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:09,320 Speaker 3: for me been people that want to be friends or 1316 00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:11,719 Speaker 3: use me to get to a hire, to use it 1317 00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:15,080 Speaker 3: as for clout to get on the show, to get 1318 00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:17,440 Speaker 3: on it. I felt that so much that even if 1319 00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:19,680 Speaker 3: it's not true now, I felt it so much that 1320 00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:22,040 Speaker 3: I can't shake it. And it's happened so many times 1321 00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:23,080 Speaker 3: when I'm like, oh, this person wants to be a 1322 00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:25,120 Speaker 3: friend let's be friends. Oh oh, oh oh, I got 1323 00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:28,520 Speaker 3: the true intentions now where I've penalized my real friends 1324 00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:32,480 Speaker 3: for it early on. I've got one that I would 1325 00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:35,320 Speaker 3: consider a dear friend now and he's in music and 1326 00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:38,520 Speaker 3: we'd spent a lot of time together and he was like, Hey, 1327 00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:39,880 Speaker 3: I'm just sletting you know. I'm putting this song out 1328 00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:43,360 Speaker 3: and I've not done anything country, but it's going to 1329 00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:46,360 Speaker 3: come out and it's a countryish thing. He didn't tell me, 1330 00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:48,560 Speaker 3: he didn't say play it, he didn't say anything, but 1331 00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:53,840 Speaker 3: I was so I quickly I was triggered and I 1332 00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:55,920 Speaker 3: was like, oh, you're doing it too. I ain't talk. 1333 00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:58,560 Speaker 3: I didn't talk to him for weeks, and he was like, dude, 1334 00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:02,760 Speaker 3: what's up, what what what's happened here? And I was like, bro, yeah, 1335 00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:04,320 Speaker 3: I got your into It's like no, no, no. And 1336 00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:06,640 Speaker 3: my wife had to like set me down and go like, 1337 00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:10,320 Speaker 3: don't let those traumas from way early keep you from 1338 00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:13,480 Speaker 3: making friends now. You can have whatever walls you need 1339 00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:16,520 Speaker 3: to have to help make you healthy, Yeah, but don't 1340 00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:20,560 Speaker 3: build extra walls now to cut other people out of 1341 00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:22,640 Speaker 3: your life that are already in it. But this time 1342 00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:25,240 Speaker 3: for me, in that way has sucked. I feel like 1343 00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:28,960 Speaker 3: it's a lot of people that have done I will 1344 00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:31,160 Speaker 3: say dummy dirty, but have done things to make me 1345 00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:33,720 Speaker 3: feel like it's for a certain reason and it's not. Yeah, 1346 00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:36,000 Speaker 3: so that's why I'm not a big fan of it. 1347 00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:38,960 Speaker 3: I feel like it's pretty dishonest. The industry is pretty dishonest. 1348 00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:42,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've had I feel like obviously I've had personal 1349 00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:45,520 Speaker 1: situation in the last little while, but like even before that, 1350 00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:49,960 Speaker 1: I find this town for you know, country music, which 1351 00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:52,840 Speaker 1: is like the world we are kind of in or 1352 00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:55,480 Speaker 1: la for like my friends that are ritas and actors 1353 00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:58,480 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. They're almost like the town versions 1354 00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:02,000 Speaker 1: of what social media is. Like every corner there's someone 1355 00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:06,400 Speaker 1: else doing what you're doing, seemingly better or more successful 1356 00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:09,840 Speaker 1: or and so there's this like hustle or pressure. 1357 00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:10,280 Speaker 2: Kind of feeling. 1358 00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:12,520 Speaker 1: And maybe that's my version of what you're talking about, 1359 00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:14,920 Speaker 1: is like the I'm not sure who or why these 1360 00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:19,720 Speaker 1: relationships are happening, and it's funny, like I kind of 1361 00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:22,320 Speaker 1: felt a little bit the way you're describing at the 1362 00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:25,080 Speaker 1: end of last year about this town of like, God, 1363 00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:28,400 Speaker 1: this makes me feel just gross when I'm here at 1364 00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:32,040 Speaker 1: the moment and then I went back to Australia for 1365 00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:34,720 Speaker 1: a month at Christmas, and just like I went to 1366 00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:37,560 Speaker 1: my hometown, I went and visited my grandparents or old mates. 1367 00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:39,320 Speaker 1: I went for a road trip in my old van, 1368 00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:43,040 Speaker 1: like up the East Coast, and then I came back 1369 00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:46,320 Speaker 1: to Nashville and it was like it felt almost new 1370 00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:48,640 Speaker 1: again in the way of like, oh, I remember why 1371 00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:50,640 Speaker 1: I came here, and I see all the good things, 1372 00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:53,800 Speaker 1: and I can acknowledge that kind of hustle feeling and 1373 00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:56,240 Speaker 1: sort of catch it before it takes over what I 1374 00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:57,040 Speaker 1: think of this place. 1375 00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:00,320 Speaker 2: And I just find like, if you get out of 1376 01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:00,880 Speaker 2: this place and you. 1377 01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:03,920 Speaker 1: Come back with a perspective like kind of like the 1378 01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:07,480 Speaker 1: fresh eyes kind of thing, that was super healthy for me. 1379 01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:10,000 Speaker 1: And I feel like I've I've remembered what I love 1380 01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:11,640 Speaker 1: about the place, and I kind of just focus on 1381 01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:13,920 Speaker 1: that and try to enjoy that part of it when 1382 01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:14,240 Speaker 1: I'm here. 1383 01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:16,600 Speaker 3: That's sweet. That's why I hate it, just the industry 1384 01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:19,720 Speaker 3: part of it. Like I think that that individually the 1385 01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:23,920 Speaker 3: people I like them, Yeah, but together it's like a 1386 01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:28,840 Speaker 3: football team or like the Internet. Yet it's not for me. Yeah, Okay, 1387 01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:32,240 Speaker 3: I've moved tomorrow if I could right. I've moved tomorrow. 1388 01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:37,440 Speaker 3: I've moved to back to Austin or to Fayville, Arkansas. Okay, 1389 01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:39,560 Speaker 3: but then have a place where it's warmer. I hate cold, 1390 01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:42,120 Speaker 3: but yeah, the industry is just gross to me. 1391 01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:44,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I never want had to escape. 1392 01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:46,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe that's why. 1393 01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:49,919 Speaker 6: Yeah, hang tight, The Bobby Cast will be right back 1394 01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:00,080 Speaker 6: and we're back on the Bobby. 1395 01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:03,600 Speaker 3: Asked, look, waiting there for an hour? Here's the deal, 1396 01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:06,400 Speaker 3: Morgan's gonna be Are you doing Brett young stef still? 1397 01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:07,120 Speaker 3: Is that over? 1398 01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:08,120 Speaker 2: We just finished last week? 1399 01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:08,480 Speaker 3: How'd that go? 1400 01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:09,560 Speaker 1: Yeah? That was great man? 1401 01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:10,360 Speaker 3: Yeah they got any good? 1402 01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:10,919 Speaker 1: Really fun? 1403 01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:12,080 Speaker 2: Is that guy any good? 1404 01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:14,160 Speaker 1: Yeah? He's great man him and his old crew. 1405 01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:16,120 Speaker 2: I like Brett. Yeah that's good. 1406 01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:20,440 Speaker 3: Okay. So the Life Upside Down EP, it's out the 1407 01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:24,000 Speaker 3: Life Upside Down Tour where Australia. We have a pretty 1408 01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:26,600 Speaker 3: big following Australia on this podcast, believe it or not. Yeah, 1409 01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:27,360 Speaker 3: who knew? 1410 01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:30,360 Speaker 1: Well? I love country music down who knew? 1411 01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:34,880 Speaker 3: I didn't know what we do Australia and New Zealand 1412 01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:37,160 Speaker 3: this September and then you're doing a bunch of shows 1413 01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:42,000 Speaker 3: here yeap in like summer festivals. Are you working on 1414 01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:43,080 Speaker 3: new music again already. 1415 01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:46,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the plan. Over the summer. 1416 01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:48,720 Speaker 1: We have a handful of shows, but I'm mostly going 1417 01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:51,520 Speaker 1: to be here, yeah, making this next record. 1418 01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:56,600 Speaker 3: Have you done many interviews in America in the past 1419 01:01:57,200 --> 01:01:57,920 Speaker 3: three or four months. 1420 01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:03,640 Speaker 1: I mean I've done the odd like phone conversation about 1421 01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:05,160 Speaker 1: a show or something like that. This is the first 1422 01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:06,439 Speaker 1: time I've sat down though, really. 1423 01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:11,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, well, and you don't hate me, no, 1424 01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:15,040 Speaker 3: I enjoy enjoy your company, right, making sure. I always 1425 01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:18,120 Speaker 3: felt a little guilty about that about the song, about 1426 01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:19,360 Speaker 3: taking the song and just playing the whole thing and 1427 01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:23,120 Speaker 3: been like, look at this, light it on fire, let 1428 01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:25,320 Speaker 3: it go, burn it down, you know how I am. 1429 01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:28,880 Speaker 3: I'll run at something I don't. It may not break, 1430 01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:30,120 Speaker 3: I may not knock it down, but I'll run out 1431 01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:31,560 Speaker 3: it until I'm freaking knocked my head off. 1432 01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:34,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I probably was like, ah, I didn't think 1433 01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:35,520 Speaker 2: you knocked anyone. 1434 01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:39,120 Speaker 3: I like it. Yeah, Okay, there is Morgan Evans going 1435 01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:41,080 Speaker 3: to the Where are you going now? Where are you 1436 01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:41,640 Speaker 3: going to? Airport? 1437 01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:42,920 Speaker 2: We're going to Minneapolis. 1438 01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:45,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, you've been there, going up. 1439 01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:48,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, opposite of Australia, the exact opposite. If there was 1440 01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:51,080 Speaker 3: one city that was opposite of where you're from. It's 1441 01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:51,400 Speaker 3: that one. 1442 01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:54,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, it gets pretty cold up there. I've got a 1443 01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:56,160 Speaker 1: couple of good friends up there that I'm looking forward 1444 01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:57,680 Speaker 1: to catching up with them, and we're playing a show 1445 01:02:57,960 --> 01:02:59,200 Speaker 1: and that should be really fun. 1446 01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:00,800 Speaker 3: Mike and I went and we found the Mary telling 1447 01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:04,040 Speaker 3: More statue. Didn't you know who Mary Tellymore is? You're 1448 01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:05,600 Speaker 3: gonna make it after all? 1449 01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:08,160 Speaker 1: I don't think I did. 1450 01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:12,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, said she has a statue though in Minneapolis. Wow, 1451 01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:14,280 Speaker 3: your homework assignment is to watch every episode of it 1452 01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:16,120 Speaker 3: and then come back and tell me about it. Mary 1453 01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:16,800 Speaker 3: Tyllymore show. 1454 01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:20,000 Speaker 2: Okay, I associate Minneapolis. 1455 01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:23,240 Speaker 3: With Prince also Prince Yeah Haisley Park All right, yes, 1456 01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:25,439 Speaker 3: he gonna he there. He can come to your show. 1457 01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:27,760 Speaker 2: Is Prince gonna come to the I think so? 1458 01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:30,240 Speaker 3: All right. There is Morgan Evans. You guys following him 1459 01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:33,920 Speaker 3: at Morgan Evans Music on both Instagram and TikTok. Good 1460 01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:35,280 Speaker 3: to see you, buddy, Thanks to being one of my 1461 01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:38,400 Speaker 3: favorite people in the whole world. And next time I'll 1462 01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:39,760 Speaker 3: let you take me home and I lot key's in 1463 01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:40,360 Speaker 3: my car. Deal. 1464 01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:44,560 Speaker 4: I would really enjoy you telling me that there is 1465 01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:48,480 Speaker 4: Thanks for listening to a Bobby Cast production