1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: Well, I need somebody, not just anybody, you know, I 2 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: need someone ron Kia in their infinite wisdom, because world, 3 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: would you put it decided to put the oil pressure 4 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: center on this particular V six engine underneath the intake maounticle? 5 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: Why would you make it accessible to my Ka the 6 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: car doctor? What's your heart rate and blood pressure? Rich? 7 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: You know what's supposed to you were in the body shop. 8 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: It's probably little higher. God blessing, So a little bit 9 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 1: of stress. Welcome to the radio home of Ron Andanian 10 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor. Since this is where car owners the 11 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. 12 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:48,919 Speaker 1: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up 13 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 1: the phone and call in. The garage doors are open, 14 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: but I am here to take their calls at eight 15 00:00:54,680 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: five and now he is running. I think one of 16 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: the uh great things to do is answer your emails 17 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: because I kind of enjoy doing that. Um and here's 18 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: a fresh one just came in. Oh not not not 19 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: ten minutes ago. Ron, I've got at Explorer XLT with 20 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: a right front tire that has to be replaced about 21 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: ten to fifteen thousand miles. I wonder which that is 22 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 1: ten or fifteen. So we've got to be accurate. Details 23 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: count right In order repair. I installed new struts, lower 24 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 1: control arms, sway barlings, and bushings. First set of tires 25 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: were a good year Reliance. Next set we're cross Wind 26 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: four by four made in Thailand. I got a comment 27 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: about that. I'm making the comment now. Not a fan 28 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: of all short tires, you know, Thailand, um and all 29 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 1: the other strange places tires seemed to be coming from. Now. Uh, 30 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: you know, I don't see great where great durability. You know, 31 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: they are what they are. They're cheap tires and cheap tires. 32 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: I just don't see them generating mileage across the board. 33 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: I've got nothing of a positive nature to speak of. 34 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: Based on experience, I took a the tire warehouse for alignment. 35 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: Everything was with inspects and they didn't charge me. The 36 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: left side tire is worn. They didn't charge you. Did 37 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:08,639 Speaker 1: they give you a print out. I'd love to see 38 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: the print out for that, just to see what the 39 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 1: real numbers are. The left side tire is worn, but 40 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 1: not nearly as bad as the right. How is it 41 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: worn inside edge, outside edge? Evenly? Uh? You know which 42 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 1: is it steering wheel straight going down the road with 43 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: no pulling unless I hit some slush or snowspots? That 44 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:26,679 Speaker 1: makes sense? What am I missing? First question I've got 45 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 1: is when or how often or tires being rotated? Because 46 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: nowhere in here do you talk about rotating tires. Vehicles today? 47 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: What they are? The majority of them need tires to 48 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 1: be rotated every six to eight thousand miles. You know 49 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: less depending upon how aggressive you drive, more if you 50 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: drive really aggressively, and depending upon what you're driving. Robert 51 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 1: or Bob continues. He says, he finishes out by saying, 52 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: what am I missing? I asked the alignment guy? He thought? 53 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: What he thought? He said? I had a white buffalo. 54 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 1: I can't get rid of the truck till next year. 55 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 1: What's your take? Um? Tire rotations come to mind, using 56 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: a better quality tires and other I'd like to know 57 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,679 Speaker 1: what would happen with something other than something made in Thailand. 58 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: I'd like to know you know it was good, you're reliant. 59 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not familiar with that model. I question 60 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 1: where it is on the food chain. How many miles 61 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: did you get out of that one? Is it? Are 62 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 1: you getting ten to fifteen thousand out of each and 63 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: every tire. You know, I kind of find that hard 64 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 1: to believe. I'd like to know more about that. And 65 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: then how often, what's the rotation? What tire pressure are 66 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: you following? And you know, what sort of driving? What 67 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: do you do for a living? Is it all stop 68 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: and go? Is it highway? Is it around town? You know, 69 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: all those factors come into play, and you know, everybody says, well, 70 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: I've got the white elephant, I've got the white buffalo, 71 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: I've got the one that there's always a mechanical reason. 72 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: There's always a logical reason why something wears or or 73 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: or does what it does. Uh. You know, you can't 74 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: just sit there and say, you know, I've got that 75 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: one mystery car um. I'd really like to know the 76 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: answers to those questions. Bob, if you get this, could 77 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: you tell me how often do you rotate tires? Is 78 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: it possible? Can you get your hands on an alignment, uh, 79 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: you know, an alignment print out. If they're not giving 80 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: an alignment print out, then they're not really doing an 81 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: alignment in my opinion. Um, so just just be mindful 82 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: of that as well. Uh, you know, because there's always 83 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: an answer, tires Warren, how's it? Warn't? And then how 84 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 1: are the back tires? Are the back tires Warren? Is it? Is? It? 85 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 1: Is it that their lasting longer might be if they're 86 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 1: not getting rotated. So, UM, I got a couple of 87 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 1: questions for you. Answer those please. I want to talk 88 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: to you about Dr Richard McCann. You know we mentioned 89 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:31,359 Speaker 1: him last week and um, you know his letter and 90 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: I found his letter and he wrote me back and 91 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: I've never met Dr McCann. He's and he's a PhD. 92 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 1: He's not a doctor doctor, he's a doctor and um, 93 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:41,919 Speaker 1: uh you know he's he's a car guy from England. 94 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: And you know the funny thing is he's he's the 95 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: verification of proof. When we asked him how we heard 96 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 1: of us, he was at a bar in the south 97 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 1: of London somewhere and they were playing The Car Doctor 98 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: on Friday nights, Warm Beer in the Car Doctor. They 99 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 1: take the podcast and you know, I've had a few 100 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: cases of people from England coming to visit us. Um 101 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 1: at the time that we're playing the radio show in 102 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: the in the pub and um, you know, drinking warm 103 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: beer and listening to the Car Doctor. What a combination 104 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 1: so um. Dr McCann wrote back. He says, Hey, Ron, 105 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 1: this is spooky. You are really my brother from another mother. 106 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 1: I had thought of contacting you to say hello several 107 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 1: times over the last months, last month, to say what 108 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: you're doing, and I thought, oh, he's a busy man, 109 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 1: doesn't have time to read emails from you. I've got 110 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 1: time for emails from you and everybody. Doc Believe me, 111 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: sometimes I'm up at three o'clock in the morning reading emails. 112 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: I've answered more than a few emails at three or 113 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 1: four o'clock in the morning and people right back and 114 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: they go, what are you doing? I can't sleep. I'm 115 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 1: thinking about cars. Dr McCann continues, He says, there's always 116 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 1: your story from the shop section of the show interests 117 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 1: me most. Your lug nuts saga make me think of 118 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: it won't fit story that might make you smile. You know, 119 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 1: when we were talking about UM, we recently had more 120 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 1: than a few vehicles where the lug nuts are getting 121 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: UM stripped out and round it out and bulged out 122 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: that you can't get the socket wrench onto the lug nut, 123 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: and then you've got problems getting him off when you're 124 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: stuck on the side of the road. It's it's just 125 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: it's horrible. We can't even make lug nuts right in 126 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 1: some cars. I just I don't get it. Dr McCann continues. 127 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: He says, ron I recently bought a seventy three Aston 128 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: Martin V eight last year. It's gorgeous, but it rides 129 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: on sixteen inch after market splitting room wheels that I 130 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: felt didn't look quite right. So I bought a set 131 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 1: of correct crack tested but used fifteen inch wheels from 132 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: the factory and got them restored, even more expense for 133 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 1: new tires, but I finally delivered them to the shop. 134 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 1: They called me the next day and said, hey, these 135 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: wheels look great on the back, but there's a very 136 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 1: expensive Willwood upgrade break set on the front and the 137 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: fifteen inch wheels won't fit. Decision time. And this is 138 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 1: why I read you this, because everybody gets into trouble 139 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: modifying a car, right um. And I give Dr McCann 140 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 1: credit here, he says. He says to me, do I 141 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:44,919 Speaker 1: write off the five thousand dollars spend so far? Do 142 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: I keep going? I kept going. I bought a set 143 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 1: of slightly smaller six inch or six pot calipers and 144 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 1: rotors for three thousand dollars and delivered them for the shop. 145 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: Guess what, the Whillwood calipers came not with the adapted 146 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 1: brackets to fit the original caliber bracket, but with bespoke mounts. 147 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 1: I guess that's a different style mounting setup. So removing 148 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: them and now we don't have any original spec Caliber brackets. 149 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: I called Aston Martin. There's only one bracket available in 150 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: the whole of the United Kingdom. I contacted Mizzerini, who's 151 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: close to me, and they can make a guess that's 152 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: a fabricator, and they can make a handed one on 153 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: their water cutter. He speaks funny, doesn't he? Tom, what's 154 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: a water cutter? I guess that's a you know that, Well, 155 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: a water cutter is going to be you know what. 156 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: Here in the States, we might call it a bridgeport 157 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: or a mill or you know, some sort of laser 158 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: guided device that duplicates a part. I didn't dare ask 159 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: how much will it never end? The joy of old 160 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: cars were on. Stay well, I hope we will meet 161 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: one day, truly, Richard, you know, and the point of this, 162 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, it's a great relationship. And I enjoy 163 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: these relationships. I enjoy these relationships with each and every 164 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: one of you that I've had over the past going 165 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: on thirty two years. Now, as we talk about cars 166 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: is there's a passion in this letter. There's a level 167 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: of caring in this letter for something. And you know, 168 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: that's really what the letters about. It's it's taking you know, 169 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: and and almost fifty year old car and getting it 170 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: together and and figuring out that the house and the 171 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,559 Speaker 1: wise and the dudes and the don'ts and making it work. 172 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: And I don't think you're gonna see that going forward. 173 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 1: It will be interesting as we progress and we go 174 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: down the road of modern cars and futuristics whatever, um, 175 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: you know, where will the love of that be? Nobody 176 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: listening to this broadcast, goes man. My three computer in 177 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: nineteen nine was really slicking a boy. I really love 178 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:39,199 Speaker 1: that computer. Nobody says that. All right, nobody thinks of that. 179 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: Nobody's gonna think of their you know, the Toyota camera 180 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: as good a car as it is twenty years from now, 181 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: and go, boy, I wish we had another one of those, 182 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: because it was it was just a car. It was 183 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 1: a computer with wheels. There's a passion in older cars, 184 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: there's a there's a desire to fix in older cars. 185 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 1: There's a there's a there's a way about it, and 186 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: unfortunately that's going to get lost. I had to take 187 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 1: a hood. I'm kind of helping a customer out as 188 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: I typically do. Um she needs a hood for her 189 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: OH eight trail Blazer, and the problem is the hood 190 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: is rusting. And if you ever look at the way 191 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: a hood is put together, a hood is it's spot well. 192 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 1: There's a there's a bottom shell and an upper shell, 193 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: and the two halves are spot welded together and then 194 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: it becomes a hood. Well, the hood is rusting so 195 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,959 Speaker 1: badly that I'm afraid she's gonna be driving down the 196 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: road at sixty and the outer layer is going to 197 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: peel off, but the inner layer will still stay latched 198 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 1: to the rest of the car. So we're gonna put 199 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 1: a hood on the car. So, you know, I had 200 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: to find a hood. We couldn't find a used hood. 201 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: We bought a new hood from GM. GM sends it 202 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: to it's it's in their black primer. Can't leave it 203 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 1: in black primer. If you leave it in the black primer, 204 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: it's porous. And it will eventually allow the hood to rust. 205 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 1: And one thing led to another. We had to get 206 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 1: it over to the body shop to get it painted 207 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 1: because we decided not to do it in primer because 208 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: primer really isn't a sealed paint. We'd have to seal 209 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: it by the time we go through the whole mischief gospel. 210 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: Might as well just paint the hood and do it right, 211 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 1: and you know, we're not gonna save any money in 212 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 1: the long run. I took it to the body Works 213 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: in Midland Park, New Jersey. I know of the body works. 214 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: They've been around a long time. Um. It turns out 215 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: I started kind of know the owner, Sam, Sam's brother 216 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: Billy had a silver and gray fifty six Chevy back 217 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 1: in the day, fifty years ago that ran around Ridgemod, 218 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: New Jersey. And I remember this carl A Letto's fifty six. 219 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: It was a really sweet car. I walk in and 220 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: I was talking to the young lady and I forget 221 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 1: her name, Um, but she's the daughter of Sam, the owner. 222 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 1: And it turns out that her uncle is Billy. That's 223 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: I knew the name, and I started telling her about Um. 224 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: I started telling her about you know, is he does 225 00:10:58,080 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: he have a brother, Billy? He has a brother Billy. 226 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 1: Story short, Yeah, he's got this fifty six Chevy that's 227 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 1: been sitting in a garage somewhere for thirty years because 228 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: he hasn't driven it in that long period of time. 229 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: And I said, yeah, that kind of makes sense. And 230 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 1: we were talking about how the industry has changed, and 231 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: she's seen it, and you know, she's grown up in it. 232 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: And if you're the daughter of anybody that's worked on cars, 233 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: you're just exposed to it by osmosis. You just you know, 234 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: you get this industry better than anybody else unless you're 235 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:25,959 Speaker 1: actually in a day to day working on cars and 236 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,199 Speaker 1: you know, turning that wrench. But if you're in the office, 237 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: if you're at home and you hear about it when 238 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: dad or mom come home, you get it. And she's 239 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: telling me the story about how she can't they can't 240 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 1: find anybody to come work. It's so hard today. They 241 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: can't find people with the talent to skill, the desire, 242 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: the will to actually want to fix cars. So, you know, 243 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 1: it made me think of of the passion that's going 244 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: to be lost, the the ability to to to you know, 245 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: work on something and truly enjoy it. In terms of 246 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: a car. I looked out in the shop. They had 247 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 1: a sixty six Nova, They had an old g t O, 248 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: they had a chivel in the shop. They had something 249 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:05,559 Speaker 1: in the spray booth that was being painted, probably by Sam. 250 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: I didn't get to see it up close. You know, 251 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 1: there's a passion to the automobile, there's a desire to 252 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:16,839 Speaker 1: be able to work on it, and I think that 253 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 1: technology is going to erase that. By the way, when 254 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 1: I got back to the shop, I called somebody I 255 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,959 Speaker 1: know at Bergend Votech Schools. They're gonna send a couple 256 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: of kids by to see if they can get a 257 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 1: job there. And maybe we can help the industry and 258 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 1: help these kids and help this shop, you know, get 259 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 1: get the help, get some help and expand and grow 260 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 1: and maintain, and we can get some more kids interested 261 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: in the business because we need that. We need people 262 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: to be able to fix cars, because without that, we're 263 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: in a lot more trouble than we realized. Zero run 264 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 1: in any of the car. Doctor coming back right after this. 265 00:12:49,640 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 1: Don't go away. That's right. If you call and we're 266 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:03,679 Speaker 1: not live, you can leave a message and we'll call 267 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 1: you back to get you on the air with Rono 268 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: nine nine zero zero. Speaking of ron here he is. 269 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: We had a two thousand Ram pickup truck this week 270 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: at the shop, a with a five nine diesel, you know, 271 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 1: the the Cummings and simple enough. The customer tried doing 272 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: it himself and he wasn't able to get it done. 273 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,839 Speaker 1: He Um, one of the power of steering pump replaced. Well, 274 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: I should back up the story. The story begins with 275 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: the customer did try to fix it himselfie change the 276 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: power of steering pump and a couple other things, and 277 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: it drove for about three miles and he found himself 278 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 1: without power steering one day. Um, just completely nothing. And 279 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you it's not easy driving a series 280 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: Ram pick up with a diesel manual transmission and no steering. 281 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:57,559 Speaker 1: Because the steering on that truck also is the supply 282 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 1: pressure point for hydroboos. It's the it's the power break part, 283 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: it's the power part of the brake system. Um. You know, 284 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 1: hydro boost is they use hydraulic pressure to create pressure 285 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 1: to apply the brakes instead of a vacuum brake booster 286 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 1: because obviously there's no vacuum. UM. Created in a diesel, 287 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 1: so they have to do it by other means. So, 288 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:17,559 Speaker 1: you know, you're basically trying to drive a pickup truck 289 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: with big tires, a stick, a diesel, no steering, no brakes. Great, 290 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: so you know, we have to you know, we have 291 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: to we have to figure out where it went wrong 292 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: and then and then work our way back up the 293 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: tree and resolve it. So uh, you know, and in 294 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: the case of this, the customer wanted to fix it 295 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: again by himself, and Mike went out and he brought 296 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: himself all his parts and um, you know, brought me 297 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: a pile of parts in a broken truck. And I 298 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 1: don't normally do it, but I know Mike personally, he's 299 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: a good guy and he just listen, he's a hot rotter, right, 300 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: It's not a matter of his skill set, it's just, 301 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: you know, he was just doing a few things I 302 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: wouldn't normally do. Um. You know, his source of parts 303 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: wasn't what I considered to be the greatest. And I 304 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: told him that, I said, listen, you know, for what 305 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 1: this is, this is an older truck, it's a diesel. Uh. 306 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: The diesel stuff takes a beaten Um, I want absolutely 307 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: the best parts I can put on it, because I 308 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: don't want to do it twice and I want them 309 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: to hold up the vibration. A loan, we were to 310 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: have these parts out, I think in a very short 311 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: period of time, because you gotta look at longevity. If 312 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: you're gonna drive a diesel and you plan to drive 313 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: it the way you can drive a diesel, um in 314 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: terms of harshness of operation, vibration environment, um, you know, payload, 315 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: what it will carry, things like that, then put good 316 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 1: parts on it. He rather it up all the parts 317 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: and he brought them in and you know, we set 318 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: off to take it apart. I gotta tell you it's 319 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: it's no fun putting a power of steering pump in 320 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: a in a five nine diesel because they mount the 321 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 1: para steering pump off the timing cover. They mounted backwards 322 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: off the timing cover and under the intake manifold on 323 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: the driver's side of the engine. So you have to 324 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: you know, you're working part up top, part part above, 325 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: part below stretched out over this twenty three year old 326 00:15:56,320 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: dirty rotten, I shouldn't say rotten, but dirty smelly truck. 327 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: You know, oily and greasy, and you know it's it's seen, 328 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: it's day. It's got a lot of miles out of 329 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: torn A thousand miles. And we got it done. And 330 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: and there's a point in my story. There's a reason 331 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: I'm telling you this. I'm not just trying to sound 332 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: like I'm complaining. I hope you don't take it that way. 333 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: But we had to bleed the power steering pump. So we, 334 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: you know, did it by normal, conventional method. We had 335 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: followed the procedure for replacing the pump. We looked it 336 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: up in all that and all that. It took us 337 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: through the steps and we got to that and started 338 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 1: it up. And and I'm looking at the pump and 339 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: where it's located and thinking, well, the hydro boos system 340 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: is so much higher than this. I told Danny, I said, 341 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: there's gotta be a bleed procedure. I said, I bet 342 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: we can't bleed this by conventional method. But we'll try. 343 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: We'll get it. We'll get an education today. Right, Let's 344 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 1: let's try something we've never tried and we're not gonna 345 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: hurt anything. Let's see let's see how, you know, how 346 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: we can come out of this. So we tried, and 347 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 1: it didn't work. We had no power steering. We read 348 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: the procedure. You have to fill the pump, let it sit, 349 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 1: started up, cranked the wheel twenty times, lock to lock, 350 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: shut it off, let it burp down, put the wheels 351 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 1: up in the air. Crank the wheel forty times, lock 352 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: to lock. You know, I think it took us twelve 353 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,199 Speaker 1: minutes to bleed the power steering system alone. And that 354 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 1: was just the amount of times it took the turn 355 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:22,439 Speaker 1: the wheel. It seemed like we were doing it forever. 356 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: And I think the point of it is, and what 357 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 1: I'm trying to express to you, is even something simple, 358 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 1: even nuts and bolts and mechanical things, things that we 359 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: know as mechanical, still require a procedure, still require information, 360 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: still require a step by step, and you can't skip steps. 361 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: You know. I remember back in the day when I 362 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,719 Speaker 1: wanted to become an auto mechanic, and I didn't know it, 363 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: but I did in high school. And they didn't know 364 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:57,400 Speaker 1: what to do with me either. They didn't recognize, you know, 365 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: my aptitude, and they didn't recognize is the fact that 366 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 1: a good mechanic would need to be able to read, 367 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: to do math, to operate computers, to be so much 368 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 1: more than just a mechanic or technician, whatever you want 369 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,719 Speaker 1: to call us. You know, one of the things I 370 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: teach Danny and other mechanics has always gotta follow up procedure, 371 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: gotta gotta read, gotta be able to go back to 372 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: the book, electronic or otherwise. And I think that if 373 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: we're going to raise the next generation of technicians, we've 374 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 1: got to reinforce the basics and take them back there too. 375 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: So diesels done down the road, onto the next thing. 376 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:34,880 Speaker 1: I'm on an Indian, the car Doctor. I'll be back 377 00:18:35,000 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 1: right after this. Welcome back, Welcome back, welcome back, welcome back. 378 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: Let's do a letter from I want to read this 379 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 1: letter from Bill Pritchard, White House Station, New Jersey. Bill 380 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:09,679 Speaker 1: wrote a great letter and just a lot of details. 381 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:11,919 Speaker 1: There's no real question here. It's just a commentary and 382 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:13,719 Speaker 1: I'll give you my take on it at the end. Hey, Ron, 383 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: I know you're very busy, so a quick update on 384 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 1: the battery question. I sent you a few weeks ago 385 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: and you answered on your show. Thank you for that. 386 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:21,199 Speaker 1: I've been listening to you since you are on w 387 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 1: R New York and now By podcast and thoroughly enjoy 388 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: your show. Although I'm not too mechanically sound. You can 389 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: ignore what I wrote. Pull if you want. Accept for 390 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 1: question number one, which I found interesting, the conflict on 391 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: the internet about battery programming. Battery programming is a conflict, Bill, 392 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 1: and for everybody else out there, you know they don't. 393 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: They don't make um a lot of information easily available. 394 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: I'll say it like that. Number one. Bill wrote, my 395 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 1: daughter has Explorer with the V six at my house 396 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: or battery and went and was all corroted and filthy. 397 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: She lives in Manville, New Jersey, and got flooded out 398 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:54,919 Speaker 1: with her two cars destroyed. So she had to get 399 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: two new vehicles and was one of them. I purchased 400 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 1: a new battery for her installed it. However, I heeded 401 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: your warnings about newer vehicles having to go through a 402 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 1: specific learning process when a new one is installed. It 403 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: was almost dusk when I finished in the internet. Had 404 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: a conflict about whether it needed to be programmed, so 405 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: I told her to leave it. She had its scheduled 406 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: for service and a Ford dealer for an electrical problem. 407 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: What I was coming in the driver's door and shorting 408 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: out some things. She contacted the dealer and they said 409 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: she could drive it, so I guess it did not 410 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 1: need to be programmed, and she's had no problem since then. 411 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 1: Before I go on with the rest of this bill 412 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: and for everybody else, you know, the battery programming issue 413 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:33,400 Speaker 1: is aimed at. They're looking at the specific resistance value 414 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 1: of a battery. You know, when when you stop to 415 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 1: break it down and think about it, right, if you 416 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 1: were to measure the resistance value of two identical electrical items, 417 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,919 Speaker 1: They're not always going to be the same. There's always 418 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 1: going to be a slight variation it main it's not 419 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 1: gonna be a lot, but it's going to be some variation. 420 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: Production standards being what they are, it's neither one or 421 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: they're just not exactly a hundred percent. That programming factor 422 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: is there to take up for that. Kay, the vehicle 423 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 1: will run. It may not run as efficiently as it 424 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: possibly could. In some cases, it could affect mylene, it 425 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: could affect performance, but you can, in all cases that 426 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 1: I'm aware of, still drive the vehicle. You may shorten 427 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: battery life, you may not have the charging system operating 428 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: as easily as it could. And you see, that's where 429 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 1: the key comes back to. They're they're using a computer 430 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 1: to charge and maintain the electrical system and the battery, 431 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: and if the battery resistance value has changed, and it 432 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 1: affects the way the computer will react to and charge 433 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: the battery, among other things in theory. On paper, it 434 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:38,479 Speaker 1: could affect fuel economy and that's part of why they 435 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:40,879 Speaker 1: they have the programming clause in there. And I have 436 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,439 Speaker 1: to tell you that I have complained about this the 437 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 1: various industry sources for quite a while now that nobody 438 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 1: makes a simple, easy to interpret Does my car need 439 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:52,919 Speaker 1: to have the battery program or not? Does it need 440 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: to be you know, doesn't need to be reset per 441 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 1: se um? And nobody seems to have that answer. And 442 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,439 Speaker 1: I don't know why. Bill Wrights on, Hey, ron I 443 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 1: was the one I suggested to use a GPS to 444 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: determine miles. Yeah you know what, Bill, to determine how 445 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:09,640 Speaker 1: many miles you got and how many miles gallons you use? Yeah? Sure, absolutely? Um? 446 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,199 Speaker 1: Simple always works best, right UM. I had sent an 447 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 1: email to you asking about changing the automobile transmission fluid 448 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,439 Speaker 1: on a two thousand four pt cruiser with twelve thousand 449 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 1: miles on it after owning it for three years with 450 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: nine thousand and purchased. I did change it and the filter. 451 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: I wanted to use a synthetic fluid, and surprisingly all 452 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 1: I could get with synthetic fluid, which was great. Um 453 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 1: Number four, I'd like to drive my cars and get 454 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:31,399 Speaker 1: the most out of it. Listen to the cars that 455 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:33,679 Speaker 1: this gentleman has. For the last few years, I've been 456 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 1: using fully synthetic oil, and all my cars except my 457 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 1: fifty four mg t F regular drivers are a two 458 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:45,919 Speaker 1: thousand three camera four cylinder purchased new and a century 459 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 1: second owner, both hundred fifty thousand miles. Oil has changed 460 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 1: at least twice a year. Yeah, that's good. And you 461 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:52,919 Speaker 1: know what a third one thrown in there. You know, 462 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: it might not be the worst thing in the world either. 463 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 1: I also have a Cavalier with forty seven thousand miles 464 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 1: purchased with the PT crew Or that I use occasionally 465 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: for drives and also to antique car events. A C 466 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 1: is nice, A C is nice, Bill. It absolutely is 467 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,719 Speaker 1: my hobby and my two sons and one daughter thirties 468 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 1: and forties likewise is antique cars. I have given a 469 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: nineteen fifty olds to my son sixty eight Muthtang and 470 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,679 Speaker 1: trans AMMI has the sun and the sixty one Olds 471 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: goes soon. My other son has my nineteen sixty h 472 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: L Malibu with the mighty three oh seven engine that 473 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 1: I hate. It was already rebuilt around eighty thousand miles 474 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 1: with a power glide. You know, you can't say power 475 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 1: glide like that in a letter bill. People don't know 476 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,919 Speaker 1: what a power power glides the automatic transmission. See that's 477 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:38,160 Speaker 1: a car person, power glide. Turbo four hundred, you know, uh, 478 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,880 Speaker 1: turbo three fifty or three fifty hydramatic, you know, it's 479 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: it's It's just funny the nomenclature and the wording that 480 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 1: comes up with automobiles with car people. My other son 481 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: has a two Packard and a seventy five MGB with 482 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: him getting my fifty four mg t F, my daughter 483 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 1: will get our fifty seven bell Air two door hardtop. Bill. 484 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 1: If you're giving them away, listen, I'm up for adoption. Um. 485 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 1: Whatever you've got, I'll uh, I'll lead it to the fleet. Jeezus, 486 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 1: this guy's got enough cars. And my granddaughter will receive 487 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 1: my sixty six Mustang. I'm the membership chairman of the 488 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 1: New Jersey number eight, number six I'm the membership chairman 489 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 1: of the New Jersey A A C. That's the Antigotermobile 490 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: Club of America and belong to old MG, MG, T V, C, C, 491 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: A and Mustang Clubs. I know Franklin Griff fairly well 492 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 1: and enjoy when you have him on the show. I 493 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 1: like Franklin too, He's a good guy. Keep on with 494 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: the great show. Here's the best line of it all. 495 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 1: And keep Tom on the straight and narrow. I know 496 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 1: you have your hands full. So obviously this guy knows 497 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 1: Tom Ray, Bill Pritchard, White House Station, New Jersey. Uh, 498 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: you know that's that's you know, that's a car guy, 499 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,679 Speaker 1: all right. Um, you know, and that's somebody that you 500 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 1: know understands the ends and the outs. He was probably 501 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: one of those guys that would have been on the 502 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 1: uh you know, leaning on the fender with my dad 503 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 1: working on when my dad was working on the fifty 504 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 1: eight Lincoln back in the day, Um, trying to figure 505 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: out what was going on and how things worked. And uh, 506 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: you know, there's a there's a an air of confidence 507 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: that comes up about being able to maintain Look at 508 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: the diversity in those cars, you know, and none of 509 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,199 Speaker 1: those are what I call cookie cutter cars. They're not 510 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 1: catalog cars. All of those cars they have to be 511 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,239 Speaker 1: sourced for parts. They all have different systems on them. 512 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: Look at the variation of years alright. The technology you know, 513 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,640 Speaker 1: to be able to work on all those there's there's 514 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 1: different charging systems there, there's different style engines there, there's 515 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 1: different uh you know, fuel induction systems there. Um, my gosh, 516 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: you know. And they said old cars are so simple 517 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 1: to work on, and I think not, Um, but Bill, 518 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: I really I really appreciated that letter, and uh, you know, 519 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: it's it was very thoughtful and well written. So thank 520 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: you very much. Let's pull over, take a pause. Eight 521 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 1: zero zero. I'll runninating the car doctor. I'll be back 522 00:25:47,119 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 1: right after this. Don't go away, welcome back. My name 523 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: of the car doctor here eight five five zero nine zero. 524 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 1: Phone number. I should point out, as I like to 525 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: do that, this is a seven phone number. You can 526 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: call eight five five five zero zero anytime, day or night. 527 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 1: It's really there. There's leave a message, all right, we're 528 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: live on the air. If you give a call during 529 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 1: you know, show hours Saturday afternoons to to four pm 530 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: East Coast time. Um, you can call eight five five 531 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: zero zero also and get on the air. But you 532 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 1: can also call it any time, leave a message and 533 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: Tom we'll call you back and put you in qu 534 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 1: for the next live broadcast. And I should stress you 535 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 1: know I appreciate the emails and I will respond to 536 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: them in time. I do prefer to answer questions up 537 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: here on air, because then everybody benefits. And if possible, 538 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,199 Speaker 1: I prefer to talk to you because usually I have 539 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,959 Speaker 1: questions that um, you may or may not answer. You 540 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 1: may not answer in the email, so it leads me 541 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:50,919 Speaker 1: to wonder. I'm just trying to get you to an 542 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,199 Speaker 1: exact diagnosis, So just be aware of that. Um, you know, 543 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: because so consider calling a five five five zero zero, 544 00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: leave a message. Tom will get back to you. Hey, Ron, 545 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: I wanted your opinion on cooling. Um this comes to us. 546 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 1: It doesn't say who this comes from. They didn't sign 547 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,439 Speaker 1: their name. Oh, Glenn, I'm sorry. I wanted your opinion 548 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 1: on cooling. I had the cooling system drained and flushed 549 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: on my Avalon currently with eighty five thousand original miles 550 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 1: at the dealership. Prior to the service. I checked the 551 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 1: owner's manual, which suggested that the original cool it was 552 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 1: good for a hundred thousand miles or ten years. You know, 553 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 1: it's funny, Glenn. Uh. And I've read this in the 554 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: owner's manuals and not knock in Toyota. But Toyota says 555 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: that the first cooling service is ten years a hundred 556 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,640 Speaker 1: thousand miles as you stay, then the second cooling service 557 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: is five years fifty thousand miles. And the the answer 558 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 1: that I always get is because they feel by then 559 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,920 Speaker 1: the cooling system is broken down such that it will 560 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 1: shorten the life of the cool at the second time around. 561 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 1: And my response was, well, if you change the cool 562 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: at the first time around at the proper interval, or 563 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 1: at a shorter interval, if you changed it at fifty 564 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 1: or seventy five, would at last longer because it stays cleaner. 565 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 1: And never seem to get an answer there there's an 566 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 1: engineer a foot. Thanks so much, Glenn p As it 567 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,919 Speaker 1: did a trans service at about seventy thousand miles, but 568 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: unfortunately let the break fluid lapse until the cool it 569 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: was changed. Um, you know, Glenn, I I like I'm 570 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: a you know you want of my opinion on coin, 571 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you my opinion on everything. I am 572 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,880 Speaker 1: a change it sooner rather than later kind of guy. 573 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 1: All right, I think fluid is the easiest thing to 574 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 1: do to maintain a vehicle. I think fluid goes a 575 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: long way towards telling us what kind of shape the vehicles, 576 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 1: and it helps maintain it in shape. You know, we 577 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,199 Speaker 1: I am a five to six thousand miles synthetic OI 578 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: oil change guy. I don't even count conventional anymore. We 579 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 1: don't even stock conventional oil in the shop. Everything is synthetic. 580 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: I got rid of all the synthetic blends and convention 581 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 1: als um because number one, there's so few vehicles that 582 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: use them. Number Two, the price point doesn't seem to 583 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 1: matter when you compare the price of an oil change 584 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 1: versus the price of the new car. And you know, 585 00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:00,080 Speaker 1: it's just easier to say everything's fully synthetic. We're on, 586 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 1: let's just let's just put the better stuff in, right, 587 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: Let's spoil our cars and spoil ourselves at the same time, 588 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 1: so you know, let's just be aware of that. UM. 589 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 1: As far as coolant, I like what you did. I 590 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 1: like it at eighty five thousand miles. I would personally 591 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 1: have done it at sixty thousand miles. I think that 592 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 1: first cooling change only because there's no difference in the 593 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 1: coolant that they're using there. You know that that that 594 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 1: super long life Toyota that they put it in a 595 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: hundred is the same cooling that they put it in fifty, 596 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: and I'm not sure what they're basing that on. I 597 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 1: think this is a classic example of marketing departments that 598 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 1: want to be able to say, hey, you don't need 599 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 1: to do anything to the car for the first hundred 600 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 1: thousand miles, which I think is nonsense. It's a machine. 601 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 1: Let's uh, let's do some maintenance to it. So I 602 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 1: think that's a good job. Do the brake fluid flush now, 603 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 1: and I think you'll be fine, depending upon what the 604 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: fluid is Toyota is generally the fluid seems to stay 605 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 1: cleaner for some reason in most applications, so but doing 606 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 1: it now is better than not doing it at all. 607 00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 1: Let's go to the phone. Let's go to Tom in 608 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:03,479 Speaker 1: Massachusetts a Subaru and some break issues. Tom, what's going on? 609 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 1: How can I help? Hey? Ron, how you doing good? Sir? Yeah, 610 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 1: it's a lot of issues. You know, it has all 611 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 1: the thousand whistles the auto stopping and staring and all 612 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,479 Speaker 1: that jazz. The other day, I just jammed the brakes 613 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 1: on for no reason. Uh, it steers over the line. 614 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's a you know, an adjustment 615 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 1: they can make or how when you say, when you say, 616 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 1: new Tom, what yours this vehicle? So don't you come? 617 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 1: So my first thought is, this has a DOS, this 618 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 1: has um automated driver assist. It's got the camera, it's 619 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 1: got the camera in the rear view mirror, it's got 620 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 1: probably got cameras in the side mirrors this vehicle. This 621 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: vehicle has steering correction correct. Yes, so there's either a 622 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 1: problem there's probably going to be a fault coat. I 623 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 1: would take it back right away and have them do 624 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 1: a complete scan. Describe what you're going through. You know, 625 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 1: there's probably going to be a fauld code. If not, 626 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 1: at the very least they should perform unless they've got 627 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 1: a bulletin on it that they're not sharing with us 628 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 1: that we're not aware of, but they should at least 629 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 1: do a calibration check, meaning to verify whether or not 630 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 1: the system is in calibration. Because the system may not 631 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 1: set a fault code, it may not know that it's 632 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 1: out of calibration. Um, you know we've seen this before. 633 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 1: We had a call a couple of years back. Um, 634 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: you may recall that the woman had a windshield replaced 635 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 1: on a suber. As a matter of fact, she was 636 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,479 Speaker 1: out of Florida had she had the windshield. She had 637 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 1: the windshield replaced on a sixteen or seventeen suby And 638 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: ever since then she had some strange occurrences with the 639 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 1: Vada vehicle was tracking and handling and um, different lights 640 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 1: going off and fault codes being set and long story short. 641 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,239 Speaker 1: After thinking about it for a week, I called her 642 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 1: back and I told her. I asked her simply, did 643 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 1: you ever have a windshield put in the car? And 644 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 1: she said yeah. And my next question was did you 645 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 1: have the system calibrated? And she said no. My husband 646 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 1: didn't want to pay for it. I said, I said, 647 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 1: get it calibrated. R the last brand tower I wanted. 648 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 1: But there's nothing else, right, there's nothing else out there. Yeah. 649 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 1: So you know you use his hand just as to 650 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 1: put the heat up and down. It's just it's verating, horrible. 651 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 1: It's like a content you know. Yeah. Yeah, so but 652 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 1: you know, have them, have them go through it. I'd 653 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 1: be willing to be they're either going to find a 654 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 1: fault code it's out of calibration, or you know, we've 655 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,479 Speaker 1: got a software update and need But I would be 656 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 1: concerned for safety because you can't have the vehicle taking 657 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 1: over and doing what you're describing it's doing. It can 658 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 1: be dangerous in the wrong situation. Oh yeah, alright, I'll 659 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 1: do that. You're very welcome. You'd be well, uh yeah, 660 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 1: I imagine you know, what AID does is great until 661 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 1: it isn't and then you've got a problem. So uh, 662 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 1: let's go through it one step at a time. I 663 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 1: know Tom smiling at this and know what he's he 664 00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,719 Speaker 1: knows what I'm thinking. So let's pull over and take 665 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 1: the I was a zero zero. We're back right after this. 666 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 1: Welcome back, Welcome back. We're on any of the car 667 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 1: doctor here. I want to I want to talk to 668 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 1: you about the use of T S, B S and 669 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 1: and some of the information that bulletin's actually contain, and 670 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 1: you know when and where and how they're applicable. UM 671 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 1: and I'll give it to you in a real world story. 672 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 1: We had Honda in the shop this week that needed 673 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 1: um well, it was in for a check engine light 674 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 1: and multiple dashboard lights going on and off, and the 675 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 1: primary light that was on that we were of concern 676 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 1: with was a P zero four thirty at sixty three 677 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 1: thousand miles. Most cars do not suffer catalytic converter failure 678 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 1: because a zero four thirty usually is a cat failure 679 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 1: fault um and not that we diagnosed by mileage or 680 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 1: pattern failure like that, but it's just it's something you know, 681 00:33:58,200 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 1: you keep in the back of your head and and 682 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 1: part of the procedure for diagnosing anything is is research. Right, 683 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 1: We research so much during the course of the week 684 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 1: at the shop that you know if you're if you're 685 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 1: not doing research is part of your diagnosis. And if 686 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 1: you're not doing a diagnosis, you're doing the customer disservice. 687 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:14,879 Speaker 1: You've you've got to take time to read, you've got 688 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,439 Speaker 1: to you know, resolve that information. And that's that's part 689 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,799 Speaker 1: of what it is. So from time to time, in 690 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,919 Speaker 1: a lot of cases, you'll come up against bulletins. There's 691 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 1: there's there's you know, campaigns, which is one step below 692 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:31,280 Speaker 1: a bulletin. There's preliminary bulletin information GM has that there's 693 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 1: a technical bulletin, which is an actual issue and from 694 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 1: manufacturer saying, hey, if you've got this problem, here's a 695 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,760 Speaker 1: potential and likely solution, and then you've got a recall. 696 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 1: Recall is the last step. You generally, as the consumer, 697 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,840 Speaker 1: if the vehicle is out of warranty, pay for everything 698 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,279 Speaker 1: below the recall level. So you would pay for a 699 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 1: ts B, you would play, you would pay for a 700 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,880 Speaker 1: preliminary information, and in most cases you pay for a campaign. 701 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 1: It's just a recognized we see this failure on a 702 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:01,840 Speaker 1: regular basis. Here's what we can do to correct it 703 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:03,839 Speaker 1: before it becomes a bigger problem. Because they're always trying 704 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 1: to prevent small problems from becoming big ones. You can 705 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 1: also ask for proof of I I just got an 706 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 1: email today from a caller asking about F one fifty 707 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:16,840 Speaker 1: with an oil consumption issue is going through two quarts 708 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 1: of oil every five thousand miles and the dealer wants 709 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 1: to do this, this, and this to it. Uh, you 710 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 1: know where did they get that information? All? Right? Do 711 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,839 Speaker 1: they do? They have some form of credence to lend, 712 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,880 Speaker 1: you know, credibility to that. UM, don't be afraid to 713 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 1: ask for information, but understand, bulletins get generated based on 714 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 1: the volume of failures. Campaigns get generated based on the 715 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 1: volumeless failures. They don't want it to let it get 716 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 1: to a recall, so they try to do one of 717 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 1: the first three first before they get it to that 718 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 1: recall level. So we'll talk about it more next week 719 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,319 Speaker 1: and next week's show, or anytime you have a question 720 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 1: until then. I'm not any of the Car Doctor mechanics 721 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 1: aren't expensive. They're priceless.