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Speaker 1: Welcome to Pretty Private with Ebine, a space where no

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Speaker 1: shared by our guests are meant to inform, entertain, and empower,

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Speaker 2: What's up, y'all? Ushagar Ebine here and I hope all

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Speaker 2: is cute. Now, Welcome back to another episode a Pretty

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Speaker 2: Private with Ebine where storylines become lifelines. Now, I hope

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Speaker 2: that y'all had an amazing Valentine's Day, whether you spent

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Speaker 2: it with your lover or pour that love right back

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Speaker 2: into yourself, because self love is truly the best love.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I have a really cute day myself.

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Speaker 2: I ain't gonna hold you. You know, my best friends.

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Speaker 2: Shout to Ashley. She took me out for a spa

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Speaker 2: day for my birthday and then she also gave some

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Speaker 2: was so so amazing. Like Ashley is one of those

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Speaker 2: definitely been in a season which I will be sharing

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Speaker 2: very soon, and I'm just so appreciative of our sisterhood.

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Speaker 2: So shout out to my best friend Ashley. And then

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Speaker 2: you know, I came home to some flowers and those

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Speaker 2: were beautiful. I love, love, love flowers. And then also

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Speaker 2: it really put the icing on the cake, y'all, is

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Speaker 2: the samples from volume four my coloring books. They are

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Speaker 2: you know I do sell adult coloring books except for

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Speaker 2: volume three. Volume three, it's teenage friendly. But Volume four

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Speaker 2: has been a journey. It's been very challenging. Definitely go

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Speaker 2: back and listen to the episode with my graphic illustrator tip.

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Speaker 2: Because a lot of companies printing companies, they don't print

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Speaker 2: out explicit content. And volume four has twenty additional pages

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Speaker 2: and it's an extension from volume three, but there are

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Speaker 2: twenty additional pages of those who work in the night

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Speaker 2: life and it's spicy. Okay, so we found a company

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Speaker 2: and it is amazing. I am going to post a

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Speaker 2: But just know I am so excited, like I had

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Speaker 2: a really good day, y'all. So thank you, thank you,

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Speaker 2: thank you for those who have sent me some things

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Speaker 2: for my birthday. Who have supported the page, y'all can

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Speaker 2: follow me, leave a five star review, hold me down,

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Speaker 2: don't hold me up, and also don't forget. I am

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Speaker 2: dropping a solo episode very soon. So if you have

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Speaker 2: any questions that you've been wanting to ask me or

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Speaker 2: me at hello at the pshgpodcast dot com. Okay, Now,

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Speaker 2: on this week's episode, we welcome back to DL Whisperer,

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Speaker 2: back to the show for a raw and unfiltered conversation.

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Speaker 2: You know, we dive into the latest controversies that surrounding him,

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Speaker 2: common misconceptions, I share my thoughts with him about how

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Speaker 2: my conversation with the DL whisper starts. Now. I feel

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Speaker 3: We need to do this, That's all. It was like

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Speaker 2: Listen, I'm trying to like get to I feel like

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Speaker 2: How you doing and how's your new year treating you?

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Speaker 3: I'm doing great. Actually, I think the new year is

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Speaker 2: You know, first of all, my new year has been amazing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, So what are you doing to like

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Now what happened with you losing your page?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I want to talk about that too, because

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Speaker 2: Right. Have you learned anything about yourself through everything you've

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Speaker 3: I learned that I'm actually pretty resilient like you. The

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Speaker 2: Too, but I know I've seen it on the video

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Speaker 3: That was fair because bitch, you're sitting up telling people

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Speaker 2: Like what's up, y'all, it's your your ebn a here

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Speaker 2: and be sure to follow me on Instagram and TikTok

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Speaker 2: my YouTube channel at the Professional Homegirl. Now let's get

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Speaker 3: And I'm gonna get back to that, like I do

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Speaker 3: you all right? Yeah? And I feel like there that

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Speaker 3: a role. But I had a conversation with a woman

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00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:52,719
Speaker 3: the other day and I was like, and she we

431
00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,359
Speaker 3: both came to the realization if men didn't need women

432
00:20:55,400 --> 00:21:00,760
Speaker 3: to perform straightness, like that would be terrible. Think about it.

433
00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:02,240
Speaker 2: I'm thinking, what.

434
00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:05,160
Speaker 3: Ho misogynistic they already are, Like I was like, women

435
00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,080
Speaker 3: with damn near be just laborers to these niggas if

436
00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,600
Speaker 3: they didn't need them to, you know, if women weren't

437
00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,639
Speaker 3: needed to perform straightness by having children and getting married,

438
00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,840
Speaker 3: and you know, so I was like, Okay, Now that

439
00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,199
Speaker 3: means for me, the transom in the more of an

440
00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,720
Speaker 3: issue because the do men are always going to be

441
00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,440
Speaker 3: here and technically we kind of need some of them.

442
00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:26,840
Speaker 3: We don't need all of them, but we need some

443
00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:28,959
Speaker 3: of them in the society. That's just it. It is

444
00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,360
Speaker 3: what it is. But I feel like I just still

445
00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:32,080
Speaker 3: a bigger issue.

446
00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:34,400
Speaker 2: Do you think there would ever be a time where

447
00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,479
Speaker 2: you can have a conversation and not with the people

448
00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:38,879
Speaker 2: that you've been having issues with, but just in general,

449
00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:43,600
Speaker 2: like somebody that can be able to you always laughing,

450
00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,800
Speaker 2: I'm smiling, but somebody where you can be able to

451
00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,639
Speaker 2: express how you feel. Niggas express how they feel, but

452
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,879
Speaker 2: still keep it respectful and keep it safe, just to

453
00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:53,080
Speaker 2: get to a common ground.

454
00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:55,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I've tried to do that, like the

455
00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,280
Speaker 3: thing and let's just and I'm I'm always gonna be

456
00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:01,480
Speaker 3: real with Tis Madison And I had ten thousand followers

457
00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,040
Speaker 3: And this is the part that I hate about social

458
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,399
Speaker 3: media because when I had ten thousand followers, it's like,

459
00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:09,040
Speaker 3: I'll only have a conversation with you if you agree

460
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 3: to say these things that I need you to stay

461
00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:13,880
Speaker 3: and for me, if I'm going to have a conversation

462
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:15,879
Speaker 3: with anybody, they can't tell me what I need to

463
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,600
Speaker 3: stay or you know, there's not I need. It needs

464
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,960
Speaker 3: to be real and raw, and they don't want to

465
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 3: have that conversation because again, I work based off the

466
00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:31,960
Speaker 3: Institute of Medicine, the CDC, the NIH like, so I'm

467
00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:35,680
Speaker 3: working based off statistics and data. So when it's data involved,

468
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:37,600
Speaker 3: they can't argue it. You can't argue me that you

469
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,480
Speaker 3: don't have a mental illness. You can't argue me that

470
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,119
Speaker 3: you aren't actually a male. You can't argue me that. Like,

471
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,119
Speaker 3: it's just certain shit that you can't argue me about.

472
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,639
Speaker 3: So they don't want to. But I would love to

473
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,560
Speaker 3: have a conversation. Yeah, and you know, maybe a little

474
00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 3: box and act.

475
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,240
Speaker 2: Well I'm not talking about with them, I'm talking about

476
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 2: just somebody else that you I feel like you can

477
00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,679
Speaker 2: be able to have an honest conversation with that that

478
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:02,040
Speaker 2: won't get violent, that won't get disrespectful. It's two people

479
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,440
Speaker 2: just you know, talking about their differences in how they feel.

480
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,439
Speaker 2: Because I think a lot Yeah, yeah.

481
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 3: And I think people should see that side that you know,

482
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,120
Speaker 3: I know in some of the videos. Like I said,

483
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 3: I'd be pissed off by the time I might be

484
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,239
Speaker 3: making a video, but I get what you're saying, like

485
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 3: just to see that a conversation can happen, and I

486
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,719
Speaker 3: like to do that. Like before my other YouTube got deleted,

487
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 3: I used to always to make trans people and they

488
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,679
Speaker 3: stay the same thing, which is why I'm like, I

489
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,719
Speaker 3: would love that because they don't stay anything different. They

490
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 3: all stay the same shit.

491
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. You know. One thing that I liked about your

492
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 2: interview that you did with Tasha cas that you're you

493
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 2: was very open about your sexual trauma. And I feel

494
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:44,399
Speaker 2: like one of the main reasons why you are who

495
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 2: you are today and the work that you do is

496
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 2: because you was able to identify with those who were

497
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:52,119
Speaker 2: not able to protect themselves, especially when it comes to

498
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,679
Speaker 2: people that are close to them. So how has that

499
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,119
Speaker 2: been with like sharing your story, because I don't think

500
00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,359
Speaker 2: you ever shared that part of yourself before or went

501
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 2: into that much of a great detail, right.

502
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,640
Speaker 3: And I felt like it was time because I feel

503
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 3: like I had kind of talked about it a little bit,

504
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 3: but for me, it's something that I had talked about

505
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 3: on YouTube and I do think it's important because I

506
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,400
Speaker 3: know so many men and women that have been through

507
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 3: it and they don't talk about it. But I feel

508
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 3: like the key to healing is like I said in

509
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 3: that interview, I don't know if I got a chance

510
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 3: to stay it because I haven't watched it back, but

511
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 3: like talking about it and just realizing like it's not

512
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 3: your fault and like you said, people didn't necessarily protect you.

513
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 3: And I just wanted to make sure that people understood

514
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,440
Speaker 3: my story because at the same time, I'm the do

515
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 3: O whisper, but I'm still a human. I think a

516
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 3: lot of people just see the brand and they don't

517
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,679
Speaker 3: realize like, Okay, this is still a real person exactly.

518
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 2: And that's why I don't like I feel like sometimes

519
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,680
Speaker 2: the brand overshadows who you are at the core.

520
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's all I was like when I started getting douts,

521
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,119
Speaker 3: I'm like, this is my social Like people like, oh,

522
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 3: just a ton of other cheek. I'm like, this is

523
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 3: really real, that's what this is.

524
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,120
Speaker 2: That's funny.

525
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:02,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was like, Oh, they don't see me as

526
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 3: a real person because I'm like, they don't understand, like

527
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 3: this is real life. Like if people get my address,

528
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 3: that's dangerous, Like I don't. Why would I want to

529
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 3: live somewhere where people are inciting violence against me and

530
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 3: they're making posts like oh y'all need to find them,

531
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 3: and you know, things of that nature. Of course, I'm

532
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 3: not going to take those type of things likely because

533
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 3: to me, those are threats against my life.

534
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 2: No, seriously, I agree.

535
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,159
Speaker 3: Like that's how that's how I was, like, I get it,

536
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 3: it's the Internet, but I don't.

537
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 1: I'm not.

538
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 3: I didn't get on the internet and know that. Okay,

539
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,399
Speaker 3: some people are just gonna say stuff. If you threaten

540
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 3: me on the internet. I take that as like a thread,

541
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 3: like I just don't get on here threatening people.

542
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So how did being hurt by your brother

543
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 2: influence how you approach your relationships now with just love

544
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 2: and trust? Because I didn't even know you had a

545
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,880
Speaker 2: whole husband child Yeah, oh.

546
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,119
Speaker 3: No, separated now. I mean we're because of all of this,

547
00:25:54,400 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 3: like it was in the best you know, because yeah,

548
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 3: safety issues like I'm basically trying to mitigate other people

549
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,400
Speaker 3: being in danger or you know, just certain things where yeah,

550
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 3: just trying to save other people because it's a lot

551
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,360
Speaker 3: more going on that people really don't know. A lot.

552
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 3: But we're not going to get into that. But as

553
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 3: far as my brother, for a long time, I feel

554
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 3: like that's why I was even able to talk to

555
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 3: do man, because it made me like not only just insecure,

556
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:25,919
Speaker 3: but I feel like it played a part in me

557
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 3: not loving myself. Yeah, because I think before I got therapy,

558
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,920
Speaker 3: like you know, when I got to college is when

559
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 3: I started to heal from it, but leading all the

560
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,439
Speaker 3: way up into then, I feel like I hadn't healed

561
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,399
Speaker 3: or I didn't even know what healing was. So it

562
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 3: was like internally I had internalized a lot of things,

563
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 3: and I feel like I had that element of self

564
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 3: patriot that a lot of DL men how so it

565
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 3: was easier for me to relate to them because I

566
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,919
Speaker 3: didn't really love myself. So me being with somebody that

567
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 3: was you know, sneaking around and doing all of that,

568
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 3: it just it didn't feel wrong. But as far as

569
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 3: like sexually, a lot of people people always assume that

570
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 3: I'm such a sexual person, but I'm like, that's why

571
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,160
Speaker 3: I'm not a sexual person. Like before I even had

572
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 3: sex with the first person, Willingly, it took me a

573
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 3: long time to get there.

574
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I can imagine, and.

575
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 3: Like I had to like tell him and you know,

576
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 3: and it was a dl man. That's always like when

577
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 3: people don't understand that first like ten year thing that

578
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 3: I was in where I was wasting all of this

579
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 3: time and just I'm like, after a year of like

580
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,400
Speaker 3: him learning about me and getting to know all of that,

581
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 3: I just felt attached. But that was just the trauma.

582
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,880
Speaker 2: Bo. Yeah, so you do you think you forgave your brother?

583
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 3: Yeah? I think I forgave him. I think I forgave

584
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 3: every everybody. Yeah yeah, who played a role. Yeah. I

585
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 3: think it's just more so because this was like before

586
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 3: my great grandmother passed away. She she you know how

587
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,439
Speaker 3: grandma's are. They always well, that's still your brother or

588
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,400
Speaker 3: that's still they want everybody to be together. But for

589
00:27:55,480 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 3: me personally, I just can't just that like nothing ever happened.

590
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 3: Like we can, we can move forward, But just sitting

591
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 3: around at Christmas or Thanksgiving triggering too. It's triggering. Yeah,

592
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 3: that's all I was like, Okay, that I'm not gonna do.

593
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,640
Speaker 3: But as far as forgiving them, they've already been forgiven

594
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 3: because that's going to be Derek Karma and you know, yeah,

595
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,360
Speaker 3: that's gonna come back on them. But for me personally,

596
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,160
Speaker 3: I don't hold too many grudges. There's too much hate

597
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,439
Speaker 3: in my heart, Like I usually just keep moving.

598
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I also feel like, you know, you you

599
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,400
Speaker 2: mentioned like you're going off of fact, you're going off

600
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:30,959
Speaker 2: for a CDC and all these other things, but you're

601
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:32,879
Speaker 2: also going off off of experience.

602
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 3: Well you're in an experienced like because I mean I

603
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 3: was talking about with the facts and the CDC that's

604
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 3: more so for the trans people, but even with the DL,

605
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 3: Like there's a lot of facts, but there's a lot

606
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 3: of experiences. Because I'm sure that Tosh k interview you

607
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 3: found out a lot more that I was kind of

608
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 3: holding back. But even with that, it's like people be

609
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 3: wanting to hurt you for us talking about things that

610
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 3: you've already been through. It's like, am I supposed to

611
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 3: just stay okay, erase my you know, erase the memories

612
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,719
Speaker 3: or the experiences from my head to appease other people.

613
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

614
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 3: So that's always something that I go back and forth

615
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 3: with because I feel like I be wanting to talk sometimes,

616
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 3: like so people can understand more on why you know,

617
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 3: I do what I do.

618
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, not to end it up a little bit, how

619
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 2: you ain't never been with a woman before.

620
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 3: Well, I think because and I always say, like, okay,

621
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 3: in fifth grade, that's when I met me and this

622
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 3: girl liked each other, but we tried it clearly too

623
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 3: young and even just outside of that porn. The first

624
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 3: time I saw vagina it was I'll never forget it.

625
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 3: I was on my stage playing that little game on

626
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 3: the side, you know how the little ducks over there.

627
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 3: You shoot it, you can win an iPhone. So I'm thinking, oh,

628
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 3: I'm gonna win this iPhone. A Papa took me to

629
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 3: a port. It's like the vagina the limps was so

630
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 3: stretched out. It was so I was like, yeah, what

631
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 3: is that like because it was just so strict it was,

632
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 3: and I'm thinking, like, this is what vagina's looked like,

633
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 3: not knowing that, okay, yeah, so it kind of that

634
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 3: that first immediate picture just kind of like scarred. But

635
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 3: I have like women, but it's just something about It's

636
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 3: just like my brain is just still kind of start

637
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 3: with that.

638
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 2: So what do you think your type would be in

639
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 2: a woman, because I'm yeah.

640
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 3: I would say definitely, like I like, I feel like

641
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 3: women have like a natural that have like a natural

642
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 3: like femininity. To them that like maybe don't have to

643
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 3: wear too much makeup for it. It's just like a

644
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 3: natural like feel like not not to even come on

645
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 3: to you, but like a woman like.

646
00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 2: You, like type you are like Keiki Palmer, like yeah,

647
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 2: I don't even know.

648
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,479
Speaker 3: How to explain it, but definitely like chocolate, just like

649
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 3: I don't know how to explain it. It's explain but

650
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 3: like you don't do too much at all, like you.

651
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 2: Makeup exactly but you know saw me.

652
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:17,959
Speaker 3: Yeah that's what I'm saying, Like you just be like

653
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 3: chilling and you're just natural and you just like have

654
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 3: good energy. I feel like for me, I can date

655
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 3: a woman, it's just the sexual part.

656
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 2: Like yeah, yeah, I can see that. I can't see

657
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 2: you being sexual with no woman you'd be like, right,

658
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 2: I don't understand.

659
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 3: I did data woman, Like I feel like I've had

660
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 3: some best friends and they like we soul mates, but

661
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 3: it just wouldn't be that sexual part. And it's like

662
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 3: I agree, like we are but without six we that

663
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 3: you know, go get you a man that actually will

664
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 3: give you all of them essentially, so I wouldn't even

665
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 3: hurt a woman and even waste their time with that.

666
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 2: Do you want kids.

667
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 3: I did want kids, so in twenty twenty, I was

668
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 3: planning some Sarrogos type stuff. But then I was like

669
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 3: I was in over my head because yes, and then

670
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 3: my friends started having kids. I was like, oh, okay,

671
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 3: kids not what I thought.

672
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 2: Like it.

673
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 3: No, yeah, it looks fine, but the amount of sleep

674
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 3: and just the overall stress. And I was like, I

675
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 3: would be willingly signing up to be a single parent

676
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 3: if I'm not. And I was like, yeah, I don't

677
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 3: think that would be a smart idea either. So I

678
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 3: was like, maybe one day I could adopt the wor

679
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 3: you just never know. I just know right now though

680
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 3: I couldn't afford the kids.

681
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, me, I don't know how my friends are doing

682
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 2: it and my friends kids.

683
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,479
Speaker 3: I'll be trying to tell you, like there's a lot

684
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,959
Speaker 3: of sacrifices. And I was like, you know, I'm just

685
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 3: I'm young. That's why I was like, I'm glad that

686
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 3: I did realize, like, okay, because you know, you have

687
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 3: this idea in your head, like I'm going to meet

688
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 3: this person and you're gonna do these things by certain ages,

689
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 3: and you know you don't want to be I feel

690
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 3: like people always try to make you feel like, if

691
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 3: you're gonna have kids, you should do it as as

692
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 3: soon as possible. Wait for your older but right, you

693
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 3: should live your life first. Yeah, you did so. I

694
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 3: think that also. I realized I came to that realization

695
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 3: like in your twenties and thirties, to me have your fun.

696
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, my birthday is coming up really soon.

697
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 2: By the time this air, my birthday will be past. Yeah.

698
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 2: But my birthday is this Monday. Thank you. Okay, And

699
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 2: it's my last year in my thirties.

700
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 3: Child, how does that feel?

701
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 2: You know, I've been having my moments. I've been having

702
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 2: a lot of Uh, I've been having a lot of

703
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:39,239
Speaker 2: moments because a part of me feels like, Okay, this

704
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 2: is my last year and my thirties, and you know,

705
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 2: I have accomplished a lot of things, and I'm very

706
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 2: proud because I accomplish a lot of things by myself.

707
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 2: But then, you know, I also have those moments where

708
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 2: I'm like, damn, like I still feel like I haven't

709
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 2: even like touched the surface of the of the goals

710
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 2: I want to accomplish. And I did a three day

711
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 2: fast and on my last day, I had a conversation

712
00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 2: with Bernie Max daughter and yeah, and it was so

713
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 2: fucking fire. And you know, obviously used to prepare for

714
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 2: her conversation like I do with any other conversation. I

715
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 2: watched a lot of her dad's like interviews and stuff,

716
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 2: and I feel like her dad was like sending me

717
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 2: messages and even she was saying things to me about

718
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 2: just like study your craft, like stay confident, like just

719
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 2: see it through. And she was just saying how her

720
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 2: dad was like a big dreamer, and she was just like, Ebeney,

721
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 2: no matter how hard it gets, like just keep going.

722
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 2: She was like, because you're good at this. And I

723
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,760
Speaker 2: feel like I'm giving myself grace, but I'm also changing

724
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 2: my mindset of what success looks like. Yeah, and I

725
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,399
Speaker 2: think that, you know, comparison is obviously the thief of joy.

726
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:40,399
Speaker 2: But it's just like, you know, when you know you're

727
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 2: as good as you know, as you as other people

728
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,240
Speaker 2: say you are, but it's not even about outside validation.

729
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 2: It's just that you know that you're really good at this.

730
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 2: But I also have been saying, Ebanay, like just because

731
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,439
Speaker 2: you have this one vehicle, it doesn't mean that this

732
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 2: is going to take you on one destination, like there's

733
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 2: many different routes that you can go to get to

734
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 2: your goal of success. So that's been really helping me.

735
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 2: But I mean, I'm thankful because I know a lot

736
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 2: of people don't get to see my age and like

737
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 2: I accomplish a lot, Like I'm really proud of myself.

738
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 3: There you have. You shouldn't beat yourself up, like it's

739
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 3: it's so much ahead, that's all. I'm like a lot

740
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,359
Speaker 3: of people think about it, if you had everything now,

741
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 3: what would you have to look forward to?

742
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,800
Speaker 2: Mmmm, that's good.

743
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 3: But it's look, I go by my name now, so

744
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 3: that's cool. But yeah, that's all I'm like. I like,

745
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 3: you know that I have things to look for it

746
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 3: for and there's still things to accomplish, So I don't

747
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 3: think that's the bad thing. Like that's all I was like.

748
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 3: After we had our conversation, I started seeing you somewhere everywhere, Yeah,

749
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 3: and I'm like, that's the way is supposed to be.

750
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 3: Like that's why I'm like, as long as you keep going,

751
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,359
Speaker 3: it's going to keep building. Yeah, and then one day

752
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 3: you won't even I always say the digital world is

753
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 3: like a legacy, Like one day you'll just be able

754
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,879
Speaker 3: to sit back and all of your videos and all

755
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 3: of your work will just you know, come to fruition

756
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 3: right before you You don't even have to record anything else.

757
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:58,959
Speaker 2: You know, you're right, You're right. It's so funny because

758
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 2: my YouTube page definitely been and shout out to my

759
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 2: subscribers because now we're able to monetize. But I look

760
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 2: back to all my work in the conversations and I'm

761
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 2: just like, wow, like, girl, you're really doing this.

762
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 3: Because imagine if people don't know you, and when they

763
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 3: find out about you, it's a lot of interviews. Like

764
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 3: even when I first found out about you, I was

765
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 3: going through I'm like, dang, she taking it this person,

766
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 3: this person, the songs like I know you'd be busy, yeah,

767
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 3: because you he's talking of everybody I do.

768
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 2: And speaking of conversations, I don't know if you had

769
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 2: a chance to read the comments about our conversation that

770
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 2: we had, because you know, I broke it down to

771
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 2: two parts and child the fact that people are still

772
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 2: asking questions that I feel like are just very obvious.

773
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 2: And then also I got a lot of flack or

774
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 2: slack for people saying that I say nigga too much.

775
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, And I'm.

776
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 2: Like I ain't saying nigga. I'm black, I can say nigga,

777
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 2: but I'm talking about the girls. Was tearing me up

778
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 2: in the comments. Text t myself. Tammer Hall would never

779
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 2: say that. That's just so ghetto. If it wasn't for

780
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,080
Speaker 2: him being on the show, I would have been out.

781
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 3: Oh my girl. But I feel like they just were

782
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 3: looking at you cause you're so classy and yeah, I

783
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 3: get it, though they probably weren't expecting you to be like,

784
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 3: you know, saying nigga, because I mean, I feel like

785
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 3: I like that part about you, and that's what I

786
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 3: always try to get them to realize, like, gravitate to

787
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 3: the people that you see being.

788
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 2: Themselves exactly, not obviously, I just like you said, I

789
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 2: just spoke to so many people, So I spoke to

790
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 2: a preacher. I'm not gonna say nigga in front of

791
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,240
Speaker 2: her or people you know where I have to change

792
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 2: my language. But if it's somebody who I feel like

793
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 2: I see myself in, yeah, I.

794
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,839
Speaker 3: Mean you had me and you were were cool, so

795
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 3: it's like, yeah, they be feeling it's like of course

796
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 3: or recording, but this is like how we were really

797
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 3: talk even when we before we recorded, so that's all

798
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 3: like they're just staying authentically you, and I'm trying to

799
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,760
Speaker 3: get them to realize, like you want to gravitate towards

800
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 3: some people, because a lot of people do that with

801
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 3: Hasha Ki, where it's like they might not like something

802
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:58,800
Speaker 3: she does, but I'm like, just always remember she's being herself.

803
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, you might not like her.

804
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 3: I'm like, but it's a lot of people on this

805
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 3: internet that will not be themselves, and I feel like

806
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 3: an authentic person will see right through that.

807
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:16,280
Speaker 2: Exactly what do you feel like women are still misunderstanding

808
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 2: about the d L man, because I just don't understand

809
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 2: how like even when I go through your comments, like

810
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 2: it's women ask you like, well if he does this

811
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 2: a CGA and it's like girl, come on now, like

812
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 2: women be so shocked, and it's like, girl, you cannot

813
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 2: be this shock sus.

814
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think the reason why And I be

815
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 3: having to remind myself just all the time because I'm like,

816
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 3: in from December to January, I gain like almost one

817
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 3: hundred thousand new followers. Yeah, it's more so there's a

818
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,359
Speaker 3: lot of people that know nothing about this deal shit

819
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 3: you think, So then when I'm telling you there's a

820
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 3: lot like I still meet people today that women that

821
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 3: don't know what DL is.

822
00:38:58,280 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 2: Oh wow.

823
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 3: So I think it's just more like some women are

824
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 3: figuring out late. Like some women literally I could go

825
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 3: on today and they just now seeing me for the

826
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 3: very first time ever, they just now they're like, what

827
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 3: is DL?

828
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 2: Oh wow? So I think, right, yeah.

829
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 3: There'd be a lot of new people, that's all. I

830
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 3: was like, I mean, if it's billions of women out here,

831
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 3: so I think that it's hell of women in the

832
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 3: UK and Africa. So I'm like, you have these women

833
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 3: all around the world that are just kind of tuning in,

834
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 3: and some of them have it might be a language

835
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 3: barrier because I'd be trying to put translate on the video.

836
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 3: So I'm like, it's always new people though, which is

837
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 3: all I get up every day to do. How to

838
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 3: tell if your man isto? Because it's some new women

839
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 3: every day.

840
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, So what would you say it's the most common

841
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,359
Speaker 2: mistake women make when navigating DL relationships.

842
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 3: I think a lot of mistakes is not truly getting

843
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 3: to know a man, and I think building that emotional

844
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 3: connection because a lot of people be swearing day in

845
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 3: love and I just feel like, like I keep saying,

846
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,919
Speaker 3: by d O men having so much self hatred, they're

847
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 3: not going to be able to build a true emotional

848
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,399
Speaker 3: connection with you. So I want women to get out

849
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 3: of the way to a man's heart is through his stomach.

850
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 3: Anybody can cook or you can just buy something. You

851
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 3: need to go through his You need to go through

852
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 3: his brain. If you're not mentally connected, then that's going

853
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 3: to be an issue because the d O men, they're

854
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:21,800
Speaker 3: going to be this type of man that don't feel

855
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,839
Speaker 3: like that they can trust the women with their emotions

856
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 3: or you know that they can trust women and be

857
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,359
Speaker 3: vulnerable with women, because it's going to be used against them.

858
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 3: So again, if you're lust doesn't require any emotional connection,

859
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 3: love does. So if you're just looking for six you know.

860
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 3: But I feel like if you're truly looking for love,

861
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 3: you're gonna require that emotional connection. And I think a

862
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 3: lot of women not even overlook it, but I don't

863
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:48,800
Speaker 3: think they pay enough attention to it. Because I was

864
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 3: just telling some women this morning, like, wait two years

865
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:52,919
Speaker 3: before you have a baby with a man.

866
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 2: Facts.

867
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 3: I'm like, because that lust could last for a years

868
00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 3: to IM like that, because that's a fact, I was like,

869
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 3: at the end of that first year, you're gonna have

870
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 3: one big argument, You're gonna get through it, and you're

871
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 3: gonna feel like we must be perfect. And I'm like,

872
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 3: wait until a couple of more arguments. I'm like, because

873
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 3: in the first year you really don't get to know people.

874
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:15,240
Speaker 3: You're usually not living together, you're living apart. It's always

875
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,720
Speaker 3: gonna be good. Then you have that one little argument

876
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 3: that you feel like we must be so compatible. So

877
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:24,919
Speaker 3: that's always say two years, yeah, and build a true

878
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,359
Speaker 3: emotional connection, because I feel like you shouldn't even be

879
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 3: having sets with somebody that you don't have an emotional

880
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 3: connection where it's too much that can come out of

881
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:33,959
Speaker 3: steps for a woman, like you can have a baby,

882
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:38,760
Speaker 3: you can catch STDs, it could throw off your pH balance,

883
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 3: like and I'm like, even with some of those STDs,

884
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:45,359
Speaker 3: like even committia, that could make a woman infertile. Yeah,

885
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 3: and it might not HPV for some reason, women get

886
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 3: HPV from men, but men don't be having HPV. It's

887
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 3: hard to explain. It's a lot with the STDs and stuff.

888
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 3: So it's just really about knowing to protect themselves.

889
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 2: And you know, Storm was telling me. He was like,

890
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,320
Speaker 2: now the STDs are super so they're super herpes and

891
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 2: super clamdia. And I was like, that is fucking crazy

892
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 2: and he was like yeah, he said it is bad

893
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 2: out there.

894
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:11,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's why I'll be trying to say women

895
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 3: like you need to their doctors. And that's why the

896
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 3: doctors face me off because it's like they're gonna tell

897
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 3: us gay men. They need to be telling women too, like, yeah,

898
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 3: you know a lot of things are mutating. And then

899
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:26,320
Speaker 3: by them having like these antibiotics that they let people

900
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 3: just walk around with, like stay a gay person has,

901
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,359
Speaker 3: or anybody has a risky stitch, you could just pop

902
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 3: up a doxypelp and you know, I think that that

903
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 3: makes that just you know, that's why we have so

904
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 3: many STDs news saying it. But I think ultimately the

905
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 3: biggest thing that women should focus on is finding true love. Yeah,

906
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 3: and overlooking the lowest because d o man, that's the

907
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 3: biggest thing. I feel like the hyper masculinity, the all

908
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 3: of that other stuff, that's that's cool, But if you

909
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 3: truly want love, you need that emotional connection. And I

910
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 3: know for a fact that the old man won't be

911
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 3: able to give it to you because they don't love

912
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 3: themselves and they're not real with themselves, so they're not

913
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 3: going to be able to truly open up and be vulnerable.

914
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 3: And if they do, they're going to tell you that

915
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 3: they're gay, which is the whole different scenario in my opinion,

916
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 3: because if a man is open enough to tell you that,

917
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 3: he probably really cares about you. Yeah.

918
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, facts for me.

919
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, So that's how I say, Like, I think with

920
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 3: a man that truly cares about women, like they'll tell

921
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:30,760
Speaker 3: the woman like I'm into men and let them decide

922
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 3: because Ripley's believe it or not, a lot of women

923
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 3: don't care if a man.

924
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 2: Is by Oh yeah for sure, Like.

925
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 3: I know we hear oh a lot of women be

926
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 3: online like I don't want to buy men. A lot

927
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 3: of them don't care.

928
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 1: Yeah.

929
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 2: I feel like a lot of women don't care about

930
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 2: a lot of things, to be honest with you.

931
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 3: And I feel like as long as men know that,

932
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 3: they'll start telling women because I'm like, they see the

933
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 3: online rhetoric of women's saying I would never talk to

934
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,479
Speaker 3: a boy man or I would never I'm like there's

935
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 3: so many women that do. Yeah, they just don't want

936
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 3: nobody to know them.

937
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, so, what would you say, is the most surprising

938
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 2: thing that you learned about women since you've been doing

939
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 2: this work.

940
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 3: The most surprising thing that I learned about women since

941
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 3: I've been doing this is that women a are accepting

942
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 3: this role reversal. Like it's a lot of women that

943
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 3: be out here pegging these men and you know, liking

944
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 3: to be dominant over these men. I wasn't assuming that.

945
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 3: So that's something I learned. And I think something else

946
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 3: I learned about women is that women are gonna always

947
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:41,280
Speaker 3: put others first. Like I feel like by women always

948
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 3: being so nurturing and putting on other people first, that's

949
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 3: why you get the short end of the stick. But

950
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 3: I feel like that's what makes a woman a woman,

951
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,439
Speaker 3: Like you're able to be nurturing, even though men should

952
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 3: be nurturing, but I just feel like it's just something

953
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 3: different with a woman. Yeah.

954
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I feel.

955
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,959
Speaker 3: Like I learned that too. But yeah, I've learned so much,

956
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 3: Like even with like pcos and you know, all of

957
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 3: this other stuff, in all of these other conditions, I'm like,

958
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 3: I pretty much know everything I need to know about women.

959
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 2: Now, Yeah, do you think men hide differently now because

960
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 2: of social media, because I feel like with the viral clubs,

961
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 2: with the podcast and just social media overall, I feel

962
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 2: like it really changed the way that DL conversations are

963
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 2: being had. And I also feel like, because your stuff

964
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,919
Speaker 2: is always going viral, I feel like it's so many

965
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:27,720
Speaker 2: other people that's trying to.

966
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 3: Take it is. But I like imitation sincere at form

967
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 3: of But as far as the DM man, I think

968
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 3: that I don't even think that they're like trying to hide.

969
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 3: I think a lot of people are coming out LOKI.

970
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 3: I think we're going into like a like there. It's

971
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 3: like they're they're playing gay to how and playing sight

972
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 3: like because after you keep seeing a man continues to

973
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 3: play gay, eventually your brain is going to be like

974
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 3: he's gay, and it won't be that level of like,

975
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 3: oh my god, he's deal. Like I e. Blue Face,

976
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,320
Speaker 3: blue Face do something gay every day, Like it's literally

977
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 3: nobody's gonna be surprised if we see him actually with

978
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 3: a man, because it's like you've been preparing us. So

979
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 3: I feel like, if anything, social media been kind of

980
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 3: giving men a way to like creep out. A lot

981
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 3: of women are ignoring the fact that these men are

982
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 3: the most happiest when they're doing gays though, Like, think

983
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 3: about this. When you see men on the internet happy,

984
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 3: they're usually playing gay dressed as a woman.

985
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 2: They with a bunch of it with the niggas right right.

986
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,359
Speaker 3: Any other time they in an interview with a woman,

987
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 3: they're unhappy. That's all, Like, why do why do we?

988
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,280
Speaker 3: Why are people can't just realize like that these niggas

989
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:43,919
Speaker 3: are really gay.

990
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. It was some clippy postal where a nigga was

991
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 2: like his pants was halfway down and he was like

992
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 2: sticking his booty ouse sitting on somebody lapping something.

993
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 3: And they playing.

994
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 2: I'm like, when did nigga start like that?

995
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 3: They've been playing like that? It just wasn't no cameras,

996
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 3: And that's what I've been trying to sell people, Like

997
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,760
Speaker 3: if you knew what these men be doing behind closed stories.

998
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. So do you believe white men on a download

999
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 2: move differently than black men? Dowlow? And if so, how

1000
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 2: because I feel like people feel like we only center

1001
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 2: black men that are on a download, But I'm like, no,

1002
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 2: it's a lot of other people that a lot of

1003
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 2: different other cultures that are download as well.

1004
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think we sent her black people because

1005
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 3: black men started to hold download turn those other men.

1006
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:39,840
Speaker 3: Cosplay is download men to attract those black men. And

1007
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 3: I know that sounds crazy because a lot of people

1008
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 3: are not going to understand what I'm saying. So it's

1009
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 3: like when you see a white man in a new

1010
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 3: rag mhm like. And I'm trying to explain it in

1011
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,840
Speaker 3: a way. But there are white download men, and I

1012
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,720
Speaker 3: do think they operate differently because typically those white men

1013
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 3: they have more money and they might have more power,

1014
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 3: and sometimes they're not hiding like sometimes their wives.

1015
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 2: No, yeah, yeah, they're.

1016
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 3: Okay with it. But as far as I think, all

1017
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 3: d oh men are kind of the same. But again,

1018
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 3: white men are innately more gay like, and it's it'd

1019
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:17,839
Speaker 3: be hard to it's slain because you have to kind

1020
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 3: of be in it. Like I always tell people, if

1021
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 3: you see, if you see six white men and one

1022
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:26,919
Speaker 3: black man in their own their gay mm hmm, they're gay.

1023
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:30,839
Speaker 3: Like think about every white man that I've ever had

1024
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 3: as a sugar daddy or that was ever interested in

1025
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 3: me no matter what. And let's just be clear, like

1026
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 3: I don't be out here necessarily topping it. It's like

1027
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 3: they're gonna always assume that you have a BBC like

1028
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 3: that whole BBC time that came from white men. Yeah, man, dingo,

1029
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 3: that came from white men. So white men have innately

1030
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 3: always been gay. People just overlook it because we already expected,

1031
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 3: yeah from you get what I'm saying, like, yeah, we already.

1032
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 3: It's not too many white men that I meet and

1033
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, he's straight, like they're usually Yeah.

1034
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 2: So would you say that white men are some of

1035
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 2: the biggest download men or maybe not? No, because they are.

1036
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 2: I agree, they are pretty open and out there.

1037
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I like to say I think they're

1038
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:22,319
Speaker 3: more so like their wise will be okay with it

1039
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 3: because they're still gonna benefit from the patriarchy. Like I know,

1040
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:28,439
Speaker 3: black women, they don't care how much money a man has.

1041
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 3: They're not going to be with a man that's gay.

1042
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 3: Yeah he can have a million dollars, he can have

1043
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 3: too many. They don't care, Like they don't care about

1044
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 3: the money when it comes to that. There's the other

1045
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 3: groups of women that you know, they're gonna benefit from patriarchy,

1046
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 3: and I don't think they're socialized the same. So that's

1047
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 3: why black men are the most ill because black women

1048
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 3: had to watch black men be broken. Yeah, so that

1049
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 3: trauma is passed on. So I think that sometimes women

1050
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 3: don't even realize it. But that's why they don't want

1051
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 3: a man like that, because trauma is generational.

1052
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, would you say that DL is because I just

1053
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 2: popped in my hand. I don't know where this came from.

1054
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 2: Maybe it's a conversation we had or me on your page.

1055
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 2: But would you say DL is rooted in slavery or

1056
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 2: is more so rooted in prison?

1057
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:18,840
Speaker 3: So prison is rooted in slavery. Slavery is where dalism

1058
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 3: comes from. But I think the issue that a lot

1059
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:28,399
Speaker 3: of people men people have been gay, like gay isn't new.

1060
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 3: Gay didn't happy at one point. Basically when we were colonized.

1061
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 3: It was the white people because if you go back

1062
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:36,359
Speaker 3: in history, there's like a couple of years where white

1063
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 3: people was in Africa just watching black people. I feel

1064
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 3: like they already saw that some people were gay, because

1065
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 3: in Africa, you know, they believe that we were two

1066
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 3: spirited people. I take that as like some people were

1067
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 3: just gay and some people weren't. Like but you know,

1068
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 3: you can perceive that however, but two spirits male female,

1069
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 3: I think that they use that to build self hatred

1070
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 3: into our community. Because if you really pay attention, yell men,

1071
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 3: that's literally nothing but a bunch of stelf hatred. They

1072
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 3: literally just hate themselves and they use Christianity to do it.

1073
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,280
Speaker 3: So that's why I was like, slavery plays the part,

1074
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 3: but slavery isn't the direct reason. Like they already knew

1075
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 3: people were gay. White people have been gay since the

1076
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 3: Greeks as well. But basically when they started the LGBT,

1077
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 3: it was only used so white people wouldn't hate themselves.

1078
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 3: M because the Black community we have a lot of

1079
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 3: self hatred. That's why people be arguing about oh your

1080
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 3: light skin your dark skin, like you know, yeah, it

1081
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 3: was just it was just another way to divide us essentially.

1082
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a fact. That's definitely a fact. So who

1083
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 2: do you what you think is gonna happen? Like, who

1084
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 2: do you think it's gonna get exposed? Or like we're

1085
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:45,359
Speaker 2: gonna be shocked that they look at you already think Valance.

1086
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 3: Got rub my hands together? Who do I think is

1087
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 3: gonna be?

1088
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:54,359
Speaker 2: I do agree with you. I feel like a lot

1089
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:59,240
Speaker 2: of people are playing gay because they low key it's gay.

1090
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:01,359
Speaker 3: I don't even think. I don't even have to think

1091
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:04,240
Speaker 3: they're playing gay for that reason, I know it waiting

1092
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:06,360
Speaker 3: for it to come out. But I think the next

1093
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 3: big exposure because if you pay attention the last conversation

1094
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 3: we had, we ain't gonna say the person ain't. But

1095
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 3: it's been a lot of stuff. Like I'm like, we

1096
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 3: officially got to where I need to get. I'm waiting.

1097
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:28,359
Speaker 2: I'm out.

1098
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 3: I know. Yeah, I mean as far as these other celebrities,

1099
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 3: I don't think he's the only gay one. Like look

1100
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 3: at it. Yeah, Like, look at when you start connecting

1101
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 3: a bunch of people and you start really connecting the

1102
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 3: dots and remembering, well, this person used to hang out

1103
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:49,360
Speaker 3: with this person, this person's that Diddy parties. We just

1104
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 3: found out that Diddy already we already knew did he

1105
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 3: was gay, but him being a Coco that stilled it

1106
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 3: for everybody. Yeah, now I don't think people have no question,

1107
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:01,720
Speaker 3: which is even better because now you have to assume.

1108
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 3: Now you got to start looking at the man that

1109
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 3: was damn near neked in the pool with him.

1110
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, Diddy A wow boy, man, I mean.

1111
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:14,399
Speaker 3: You see all of the names connected to him, that's

1112
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 3: a lot of the industry, right A wrong, Yeah it is.

1113
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:20,320
Speaker 2: And then you know, also with the recent allegations of

1114
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 2: like certain pastors and gospel singers, I'm like, God.

1115
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 3: And you see, I was just getting something and I've

1116
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,400
Speaker 3: been uncovering a lot of stuff. People from the DMV

1117
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:32,319
Speaker 3: was hitting me up because you know, left his church

1118
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 3: there and king to Atlanta. So I when I tell you,

1119
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:39,919
Speaker 3: I was getting it, but my page got the leader.

1120
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 3: That's why I'm like, I'm still gonna continue on, but

1121
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be a lot of biggest closures.

1122
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:46,839
Speaker 3: All of these niggas gonna be out.

1123
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 2: So with me, well, we know that, baby, because you

1124
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 2: keep your foot on these niggas. And then the crazy

1125
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 2: thing about you is you'll be up at four o'clock

1126
00:53:56,000 --> 00:54:01,319
Speaker 2: in the morning. You'll play with these deers. You would

1127
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:03,800
Speaker 2: get coming. I'm like, we were gonna make my coffee

1128
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 2: before this nigga started, cause two o'clock and you would

1129
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 2: just be added.

1130
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 3: At it and then boom on all I'm about to

1131
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 3: go for today. But yes, I definitely, and I like

1132
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 3: to keep a you know, a consistent schedule. That's why,

1133
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 3: like you said, people, why are you up? Star? I

1134
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 3: wake up at four o'clock every day. Yeah, my video

1135
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 3: was like I already know what I'm talking about the

1136
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 3: next morning. All I gotta do is well, I.

1137
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 2: Love that about you. Yeah, You're very structured and discipline.

1138
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:35,399
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's gonna be plenty of men coming out.

1139
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:37,279
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, I'm not playing with none of them

1140
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 3: like I've been playing. Now we got to step it up,

1141
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:41,840
Speaker 3: Like even with the Keith Lee, like that was a

1142
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 3: lot of backlash, but nobody couldn't Nobody couldn't disprove what

1143
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 3: I had to stay. I used his own words to

1144
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 3: prove what I had to stay about him.

1145
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 2: So what is next for you? Because I know you

1146
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:54,399
Speaker 2: said we talk about you doing a pivot, you being

1147
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 2: you going into politics, Like what does that look like

1148
00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:58,880
Speaker 2: and what do you want to accomplish in that space?

1149
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 3: Well, so currently I'm trying to just kind of understudy

1150
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 3: some people right now because I don't actually know where

1151
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 3: I want to go in politics, or that I wanted

1152
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 3: to be sentate House or representatives. I just know, I mean,

1153
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:12,839
Speaker 3: right for me to make some actual change, I need

1154
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:16,319
Speaker 3: to get into politics. But I get yeah, I gets

1155
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 3: how it's talking on the internet, like I'm more of

1156
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 3: a solution oriented person. So for me, I'm like, instead

1157
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 3: of me doing all of just arguing on the internet,

1158
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 3: let me actually go and try to make a change. Yeah,

1159
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 3: so I want to understudy that for it, maybe like

1160
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 3: a year's too to really like truly understand. Because of politics.

1161
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 3: I was just watching the video and I'm like, they

1162
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 3: tricked Jasmine Crockett into giving up her house representativesy into

1163
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 3: running for senate mm hmm by inflating the polls to

1164
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 3: make her think that she was way higher than what

1165
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:50,760
Speaker 3: she actually was, because of course who publishes the pose.

1166
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 3: So I was like, that's pretty sisty, Marty.

1167
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:57,399
Speaker 2: So I like, politics is a dirty game.

1168
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 3: So yeah, so I was like, I can't just don't

1169
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,360
Speaker 3: I've into this because that's something I was like, you

1170
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 3: got to be so prepared, and I know it would

1171
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 3: be dangerous. Yes, people they keep trying to say, oh,

1172
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 3: he's the gay Charlie Kirk, and I just hate that.

1173
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 2: No, I don't like that comparison.

1174
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's all I was like, I hate that

1175
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 3: they keep saying that, Like the trans people like, oh,

1176
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 3: you're trying to be like Charlie Kirk is like we

1177
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 3: know how he ended so don't keep trying to compare

1178
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 3: and it's crazy because me and him got the same birthday,

1179
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:26,839
Speaker 3: but it's like, don't be trying to compare me to him.

1180
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:28,799
Speaker 3: So so I was like, I feel like they're trying

1181
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 3: to like do witchcraft and you know people how I've

1182
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 3: been doing witchcraft and voodoos. So that's why I do

1183
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 3: appreciate people playing for me.

1184
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:38,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, are you scared, Like, are you ever nervous about,

1185
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 2: like you something happening to you?

1186
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 3: I mean I am, but I'm not. Yeah, I feel

1187
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 3: like it could happen regardless, So I think I live

1188
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 3: with the fact that I could be driving and something

1189
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 3: happens to me. So yes, like I be having to

1190
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 3: stay prayed up and I have to make sure that

1191
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 3: I present myself physically because I mean, I'm arguing with

1192
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:02,720
Speaker 3: war locks and demons and demonic people that are pushing

1193
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:05,800
Speaker 3: an agenda that they're trying to push against kids, and

1194
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 3: I'm going against it. So of course they're pissed at me.

1195
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 3: Like pharmaceutical companies, they're probably going to be pissed at

1196
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 3: me because they want me to promote prep and I

1197
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 3: won't do it. I'm literally trying to keep people from transitioning, Like,

1198
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 3: you know, it's a lot of people I'm talking about

1199
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 3: these celebrities. Yeah, and you know it's a lot. But

1200
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 3: I feel like what I'm doing I feel good about.

1201
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 2: Well, how can we support you? I mean, obviously I

1202
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 2: am a fan of your work and I'm going to

1203
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 2: always keep you in my prayers. So but how can

1204
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 2: we support you? Like, do you still have the services?

1205
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 2: I know we have new pages, so definitely make sure

1206
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:40,920
Speaker 2: you sure that everybody so we can get these numbers

1207
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 2: back up. But what do you need from us? And

1208
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 2: what do you want people to take away from your work?

1209
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 3: Yes, so right now, I think the best way to

1210
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 3: support is if you do need me for any services,

1211
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 3: you can book me for that. I still take college

1212
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 3: classes for people as well, and just you know the

1213
00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 3: positive words. I mean, I feel like as far as money,

1214
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 3: that money is gonna always come. Yeah, that's gonna always come.

1215
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 3: Like I just don't want my message to be able

1216
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 3: to grow bigger and bigger, so to me, like sharing

1217
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 3: it to the next one in or you know, having

1218
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 3: like some people have groups where they share my messages too.

1219
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 3: To me, that's the most important thing. Like, of course,

1220
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 3: money is going to have to play a part. But yeah,

1221
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 3: I get I get enough views. I just got to

1222
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 3: keep a page. I just gotta keep I just gotta

1223
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 3: keep a page. That's it. If I can keep a

1224
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:33,920
Speaker 3: pa that's all. I was like, I'm not worried about that.

1225
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 3: And you know, I have some other stuff coming, Like

1226
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 3: some products come in do rags. Well, I wish Finty

1227
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 3: would just collod I'm to steal. I'm gonna have to

1228
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 3: steal her. I'm gonna have to look into her products

1229
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 3: and remake it. That's why I said, I don't want

1230
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 3: to have to steal it. But yeah, so ultimately, just

1231
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 3: trusting God. Like I'm a very spiritual person, so I

1232
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 3: feel like my whole life things have happened, but I've

1233
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 3: always ended up in a better position. So I just

1234
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 3: think that if I just continue to keep doing what

1235
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 3: I feel like it's right and living my life right,

1236
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 3: everything is going to always work out.

1237
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. I agree. Well, I'm proud of you, I love you.

1238
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 2: I'm always praying for you. So I just want you

1239
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 2: to just always stay in the light, no diddy, and

1240
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 2: just stay focused on what you have because I do

1241
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 2: believe that you are helping so many people, both men

1242
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 2: and women. So I just want you to just stay

1243
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 2: in the positivity and just mute out the noise, because

1244
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 2: I do feel like a lot of times people will

1245
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 2: trick you out your spot and you are here for

1246
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 2: a reason. Because the fact that you had that many

1247
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 2: pages the leading and you're still here, let me know

1248
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 2: what type of person you are, not seriously, because some

1249
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 2: people would have been gave up because it's really hard

1250
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 2: building anything, you know that saying.

1251
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 3: That'd be the frustrating part. That's why I say I

1252
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 3: just once I lost all of them pages last year,

1253
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:55,440
Speaker 3: like I just learned to stop. I don't even pay

1254
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 3: attention to the numbers. That's why I was like so

1255
00:59:57,160 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 3: many people knew who followed me and I didn't even

1256
00:59:59,880 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 3: know because I just don't even I feel like that's

1257
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 3: the way to stay grounded in my head. I'm always

1258
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:08,480
Speaker 3: at zero, yeah, facts, always at zero. I'm not chasing numbers.

1259
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:10,360
Speaker 3: That's why I was telling our mind like I'm not

1260
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 3: trying to get into the industry. Do I want my

1261
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:12,919
Speaker 3: own TV show?

1262
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 2: And I like that because he's one of my favorite YouTubers.

1263
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 2: So when y'all was going back and forth, I was like,

1264
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 2: come on, y'all, but you.

1265
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 3: See, it's because he wants to be in the industry.

1266
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 3: And that's why I say, Like, what I will say

1267
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:26,919
Speaker 3: is that if you do want to propel, you're gonna

1268
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 3: have to feed into those narratives sometimes, like the media

1269
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 3: is very control. That's the part that I feel like

1270
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:34,920
Speaker 3: I had to realize because a lot of people be like, well,

1271
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:36,520
Speaker 3: why aren't you doing this and this? And it's like

1272
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:40,920
Speaker 3: I'm truly a little block listed. Yeah, going against ts Madison,

1273
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 3: who's a big person in the media that works with

1274
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 3: a lot of these conglomerates and these people, like that's

1275
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 3: going to play a part because for them, who can

1276
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:50,000
Speaker 3: bring me the numbers?

1277
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1278
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:53,400
Speaker 3: Oh he got mills and followers. Oh you you're just

1279
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:55,640
Speaker 3: now starting in this the year of course we're gonna

1280
01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 3: pick the person that you know already been in this.

1281
01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 3: And that's what people don't get. Yeah, very it's like

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Speaker 3: political like.

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Speaker 2: And I hate that because I feel like you sometimes

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Speaker 2: you got to play the game.

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Speaker 3: You got it exactly. And I'm not as farry as

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Speaker 3: that goes with the trans woment out about like because

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Speaker 3: I'm still gonna be okay, like I'm still being an interviewed,

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Speaker 3: like you know, it's nothing really stopped. I just yeah,

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Speaker 3: I hate that I feed into it. That's why I'm

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Speaker 3: glad that we had this conversation though, because you you

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Speaker 3: were reminded me even more like they're just distracting me

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Speaker 3: from what I'm actually here for.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And even when I was preparing for this interview,

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Speaker 2: like I really wanted people to see you for you,

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Speaker 2: Like that's why I didn't want to ask questions about

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Speaker 2: the issue or particular people, like I really want people

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Speaker 2: to see you for Ni Kwan. So I don't want

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Speaker 2: people I feel like a lot of time to brand

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Speaker 2: kind of like it gets so big and then with

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Speaker 2: everybody coming, you know what I'm saying, it's just yeah,

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Speaker 2: like you appreciate that. Yeah, And I feel like people

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Speaker 2: forget that you're a person like I don't know what

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Speaker 2: the fuck I would do with somebody who's supposed my

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Speaker 2: Social Security number or you.

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Speaker 3: Know what I'm saying, like yeah, or just yeah, So

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Speaker 3: you just have to not think about it, because I'm

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Speaker 3: telling you, it burned me up every time. But I'm like,

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Speaker 3: just don't think about it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. But then you also make a good point where

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Speaker 2: people feel like when you want to make it in

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Speaker 2: this space you got to play into the shenanigans, and

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Speaker 2: the shenanigans is so it's nothing but negativity, but it's

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Speaker 2: so fucking annoying.

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Speaker 3: It's like witchcraft, Like it's yeah, Like I always tell people,

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Speaker 3: this is a portal. This is a portal. You can

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Speaker 3: either use it for good or bad. That's why I say,

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Speaker 3: like facts. The reason why I was able to ignore

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Speaker 3: stuff is because once I did start gaining too much momentum,

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Speaker 3: I started seeing what people were saying about me. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but the whole beginning point I never saw videos about myself,

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Speaker 3: but then people started tagging me. So I had to realize,

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Speaker 3: like I have to tell the people that follow me,

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Speaker 3: if you truly fuck with me, don't tag me.

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Speaker 2: And I feel like the people played the part into it,

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Speaker 2: definitely the followers, because I was reading some comments and

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Speaker 2: I'm like, why would y'all say that? Like why are

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Speaker 2: y'all egging it on? Like this is not something that

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Speaker 2: we should be encouraging, you know what I'm saying?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, I do what you mean.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but tones and pages? So where can we follow

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Speaker 2: you in out? Follow you at now on Instagram and

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Speaker 2: YouTube so we can get these numbers. I don't think

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Speaker 2: you gave it to a ship.

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Speaker 3: So my Instagram and YouTube is deal Whisper with two rs. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 3: just deal Whisper. And if you just look up THEO Whisper.

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Speaker 3: If I have a page on the platform, it should

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Speaker 3: it should pop up.

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Speaker 2: Your name and people start getting nervous.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and I wish it wasn't like that though. I

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Speaker 3: feel like I should be a scary entity, like I'm

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01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 3: a really nice person people don't get I guess people

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Speaker 3: get to see that. So I don't know why people

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Speaker 3: think I'm such a mean, like Cannimi person, like I

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Speaker 3: haven't done anything.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I think people gonna see it after this conversation,

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Speaker 2: for sure.

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Speaker 3: And I really appreciate you for having me again, and

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Speaker 3: you know, even thinking to have this conversation like this,

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Speaker 3: because they do be a lot and I do think

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Speaker 3: a lot of people forget that I am human, which

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Speaker 3: is frustrating. So I am glad to know that you

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Speaker 3: at least know that I'm human.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, of course, you know I got you

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Speaker 2: and to listeners, you know, I really hope that you

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Speaker 2: got something from this conversation and was able to see

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Speaker 2: a different side of my friends, So if you have

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Speaker 2: any questions, comments of concerns, please make sure to email

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Speaker 2: me at Hello at the pshgpodcast dot com. Do not

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Speaker 2: be in my comments section talking about how we said nigga,

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Speaker 2: because I'm gonna keep saying that. On that note, until

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Speaker 2: next time, everyone later.

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Speaker 3: See you later.

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