Speaker 1: Look man, oh I see you? Why why and look
Speaker 1: over there? How is that culture? Yes? Goodness Dan culture
Speaker 1: calling legend on the pod and not a word is hyperbole.
Speaker 1: Not a word, not a word, not a word as hyperbole.
Speaker 1: I was just talking today, I'm sorry. On set and
Speaker 1: Miss Ariana Grande herself did ask me. She said, not
Speaker 1: to be all teen vogue, but who's your favorite host ever?
Speaker 1: And I said ever ever, it's not even recency bias
Speaker 1: up in here. I said, it's Kicky Palmer, your Scream
Speaker 1: Queen's co star. And then Ariana said, of course absolutely.
Speaker 1: Can we say something justice for Scream Queens because that
Speaker 1: show delivered every time? Yes, and it needs to be
Speaker 1: set and said out loud and projected. And can I
Speaker 1: stay with my full chest? You know who? Actually, when
Speaker 1: they were this is years ago, when they were first
Speaker 1: batting around the casting rumors for Wicked, I said, Kicky Palmer,
Speaker 1: because I've been saying Kiki Palmer literally for anyone's casting
Speaker 1: list for years. Okay, I am for me, it's Kiki
Speaker 1: and then everyone else. I am so excited. I am
Speaker 1: going off. I literally I've been like doing around. I've
Speaker 1: been sort of pacing my apartment but my iconic Hollywood
Speaker 1: apartment just sort of walking around, stalking around so excited.
Speaker 1: I even watched Nope and the readers know that I
Speaker 1: don't do scary, but to know and it was one
Speaker 1: of my favorite movies of the year. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I love you, I love you, I live for you.
Speaker 1: It's giving you had vision, it's giving musical theater, it's
Speaker 1: giving all things. But let's just say, this voice that's
Speaker 1: coming from on high bone, who is it? And if
Speaker 1: you feel you must even even say some credits, then sure.
Speaker 1: But if you don't know who this person is, sorry
Speaker 1: to this man as they say, as they say, this
Speaker 1: is the thing. When you talk about this per person,
Speaker 1: it is like it's not even a list. It's a
Speaker 1: four dimensional sort of snapshot of time. Where you go,
Speaker 1: oh my god, where to begin? You go, Okay, there's
Speaker 1: the acting. There's the film. There's the True Jackson VP.
Speaker 1: There's the Virgo Tendencies, there's the Lawrence. There is period,
Speaker 1: There's there's the cover of Man in the Mirror from
Speaker 1: Joyful Noise. There is t TV the Ye, there is
Speaker 1: absolutely the music video of hands Free. There is Yes,
Speaker 1: Gonna Do No Mama, Like you want to there is
Speaker 1: no featuring Joel Kim Booster our girl. There is all
Speaker 1: the things there is Hustlers. Never forget hustlers, never forget Mercedes,
Speaker 1: and forget hercedies. Oh my gosh. I mean, we're so
Speaker 1: excited she's here. There's no better guests we could ask for,
Speaker 1: literally none. Everyone, Please welcome into your ears. Kick it
Speaker 1: from like a threat to our our readers, like one
Speaker 1: day we're gonna er, we swear, And now that the
Speaker 1: day is here, it's so exciting. You guys, I'm coming
Speaker 1: live from my closet, and you know I could not
Speaker 1: wait to come on this show. You guys are fair.
Speaker 1: I'm just ready for us to get into it. Love. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean much to get into I mean when I
Speaker 1: tell you, like, I'm such a fan. But like then
Speaker 1: with Nope, I just watched Nope the other day because
Speaker 1: it took me a long time, because I I do
Speaker 1: get scared. But I've had a big horror weekend because
Speaker 1: I watched Nope. And also Megan Megan is the new
Speaker 1: girl storm in the theaters, and Megan I saw as well, Honey,
Speaker 1: you did, I did? You can always catch me at
Speaker 1: the cinema, Love, I was there Opening Night because I
Speaker 1: love scary, you know I do, and also I love
Speaker 1: horror specifically, and you know it made me think about Chucky,
Speaker 1: you know, a little child's play. We're taking a little
Speaker 1: bit modern, you know what I mean. I'm here for
Speaker 1: an a I take over. I was there in the
Speaker 1: theaters and it was absolutely hilarious. I love like a
Speaker 1: genre that also is satire at the same time, and
Speaker 1: when Miss Mama started playing on the piano, toy Soldier
Speaker 1: almost wept like that kind of that I'm looking for
Speaker 1: the cover of Titanium by Sea really took out that
Speaker 1: girl and that dance school choreographed who had Megan's hits.
Speaker 1: We didn't like that. She really had hips for a
Speaker 1: little girl doll. I mean, she was giving it was suggestive.
Speaker 1: I was like, Megan, boh, and you gotta go. Well,
Speaker 1: I bought one of the first tickets in London to
Speaker 1: go see this movie. I'm seeing it Friday. By the
Speaker 1: time this episode comes out, I will have seen it
Speaker 1: and I will be able to join it in the discourse. Good,
Speaker 1: come on discourse talk about like horror satire. I mean nope,
Speaker 1: Now it is a like awards lauded performance and well deserved.
Speaker 1: You like really really really killed that. And like I
Speaker 1: had heard so much about the movie and I finally
Speaker 1: got up to seeing it, and it actually really exceed
Speaker 1: in my expectations. Like it actually really called back to
Speaker 1: one of my favorite movies, which was Jaws. This movie
Speaker 1: is Jaws in the sky in a way that I
Speaker 1: had heard but then only really could appreciate and watching it,
Speaker 1: and like, I mean, kudos, the movie is so great
Speaker 1: and I'm sure everyone that listens to this podcast has
Speaker 1: seen it, but like it's just tremendous that thrills me
Speaker 1: so much. I thank you so much. It's just been
Speaker 1: a crazy and amazing experience. First of all, just collaborating
Speaker 1: with Jordan was fatuous, Hoia Daniel Kaluya, I mean universal.
Speaker 1: It's been a first class experience for me all the
Speaker 1: way around. Um, And so I'm just glad that people
Speaker 1: also able to enjoy the movie. And like you said,
Speaker 1: it has so many things going on in his genre,
Speaker 1: but it's also you know, it has satirical moments, it's funny,
Speaker 1: it has olds to all the kinds of films that
Speaker 1: we love. You know, Jordan's sprinkled in so many different references.
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, it's still is
Speaker 1: this story of this character overcoming, you know, like in Jaws,
Speaker 1: you know, the monster in the water and then the
Speaker 1: monster in the sky. So it is really it was
Speaker 1: great experience. It's such a clever movie about show business
Speaker 1: or about spectacle obviously, but like I mean, I had
Speaker 1: heard is this true? Because I had heard from someone
Speaker 1: I forget who, but they were saying that, like, oh,
Speaker 1: did you know that Kiki delivered a different version of
Speaker 1: that beginning spiel about her, you know, Emerald and o
Speaker 1: J's family business, Like you gave a different version of
Speaker 1: that monologue every single take. Yeah, that's like the legend
Speaker 1: of it. And there's already there's already like such like
Speaker 1: a mythos about the movie, and it's like that that
Speaker 1: is like legendary status. Oh my gosh, thank you so much.
Speaker 1: That gives me so much joy. You know, your girl
Speaker 1: comes to sit prepare, Donnie. I'm ready to do anywhere
Speaker 1: you want me to do it. So I definitely, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm your actors where it's like, if this is how
Speaker 1: they wrote it, I'm stipping to the name script and
Speaker 1: let's say tell me otherwise. But soon as Jorge told
Speaker 1: me to have fun with it. Yeah, like we did
Speaker 1: it probably like six times normal and then the rest
Speaker 1: of the times, Like once he saw that I was
Speaker 1: gonna be improving, he was like, keep going, keep going,
Speaker 1: keep going, and just my little heart out. And so
Speaker 1: we just changing it up at the end, and that's
Speaker 1: when you know, you you get the little singing on
Speaker 1: the side. Like I just started just acting like a
Speaker 1: fool towards the end because he gave me the permission
Speaker 1: to do so. It was it was a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: Did you get to go to Universal Studios and experience
Speaker 1: like the Nope set, like the actual Jupiter's Claim absolutely
Speaker 1: a you're talking about the one that they put up
Speaker 1: in there after we filmed. Yeah, which, by the way,
Speaker 1: to me, I did. I mean, I wonder how Jordan feels,
Speaker 1: because that apparently has never happened for a movie before
Speaker 1: its release. You know. Usually it's happens for movies after
Speaker 1: they already hit, you know, crazy numbers like for instance,
Speaker 1: like Jaws or any of the reversal's classics. They have
Speaker 1: them there, but after the movie has already been a hit.
Speaker 1: So the belief that Universal already had a note to
Speaker 1: put that there like to give it that legendary status
Speaker 1: before it was even released. I know Jordan must have
Speaker 1: been through the Moon, but you know, for me to
Speaker 1: go there after we had filmed it and you know,
Speaker 1: it to be coming out, I really just felt like, man,
Speaker 1: this is like really cool. I mean I've been acting
Speaker 1: now for about twenty years, almost over twenty years, and
Speaker 1: so for me, it's just like I keep having these
Speaker 1: great new experiences, um, you know, and now as an adult,
Speaker 1: so it's just like wow, I'm just so happy that
Speaker 1: I can keep, you know, this experience with my art
Speaker 1: and this medium can continue to get richer and richer.
Speaker 1: It's so cool. I mean just to be a part
Speaker 1: of something that they immortalized like that and like a
Speaker 1: theme park sense, like the little kid in me and
Speaker 1: the adult now would be so gagged by that. I
Speaker 1: remember I went and it was like the Halloween Horror Knights.
Speaker 1: So it wasn't it wasn't even the tram rolling through.
Speaker 1: It was we actually got to walk through and it
Speaker 1: was characters from us and also nope, like you know,
Speaker 1: jumping out at you. So we actually got to walk
Speaker 1: through Jupiter's Claim. And this is prior to me having
Speaker 1: seen the movie. But now I feel like I have
Speaker 1: to go back because I've now seen it and I
Speaker 1: know how Jupiter's claimed figures in and I got experienced it.
Speaker 1: But just to be in something that's like that big
Speaker 1: of an event that they immortalized in that way has
Speaker 1: to be like a crazy pinch me moment. It is,
Speaker 1: and I don't think you always really grasp it, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like I remember asking other people,
Speaker 1: you know, the same question, or saying, you know, wow,
Speaker 1: this movie, what was that experience like? And you know
Speaker 1: they would give me good sufficient answers, but I know
Speaker 1: now and being in that position like what they must
Speaker 1: have been thinking is like, you know what, it's just
Speaker 1: kind of like just glad and thankful and thrilled, you know,
Speaker 1: because here's this thing that you've been doing for all
Speaker 1: these years and all this time, and you know, you're
Speaker 1: always looking to collaborate with different people. Obviously, Jordan Peels
Speaker 1: don't come around often, nor do Daniel cou So it
Speaker 1: definitely definitely feel a different vibe of just like, wow,
Speaker 1: I'm really working with some incredible talented people. But then
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, it's just like this
Speaker 1: is our craft. This is what we love and it's
Speaker 1: insane when people respond this way. But the truth is
Speaker 1: we do it anyway, you know what I mean. I
Speaker 1: would be excited anyway, but the fact that there's this
Speaker 1: huge commercial appeal, Yeah, it's kind of the thing where
Speaker 1: you don't even really know how to process, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. You sent such a nice gift to
Speaker 1: everyone at US and now all the week after you hosted,
Speaker 1: and everyone was so happy to receive it. But then
Speaker 1: I read your note that you sent and I don't
Speaker 1: know if I don't know if you remember writing this,
Speaker 1: but you said something about my favorite thing in the
Speaker 1: world is to be part of a team, and thank
Speaker 1: you all for letting me be part of a team. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm wondering, is this what is driving Kiki Palmer to
Speaker 1: do all of this stuff? Like truly everything You're in
Speaker 1: every corner, You're doing everything that can possibly be done
Speaker 1: in front of the camera, behind the camera. It's amazing.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I do really love to be
Speaker 1: a part of a team. I don't know. Maybe it's
Speaker 1: the middle child and me. You know, I grew up
Speaker 1: one of four and so my family is also very
Speaker 1: like we're very inclusive when we're very like, we're together
Speaker 1: on this, and I think it's just built in me
Speaker 1: to know that you can only really get some great
Speaker 1: things done when you do it as a team. And
Speaker 1: it also my parents come from theater, you know, even
Speaker 1: though I started out in film and TV, I think
Speaker 1: ultimately my heart and my foundation of loving, you know,
Speaker 1: entertaining comes from the theater. You know, it comes from
Speaker 1: the way they taught me, which was theater. And what
Speaker 1: are you doing theater? You you acknowledging, you respect your team,
Speaker 1: everybody doing this together. You know, we're all in it
Speaker 1: to look no pun intended, high school musical. We're all
Speaker 1: in this together. So that I think that totally is
Speaker 1: um the heart of who I am as an entertainer.
Speaker 1: You know. It's a very vaude villain ask. It's very like,
Speaker 1: take me to the crew in the cast and let's
Speaker 1: round it up, let's get it. You know. So when
Speaker 1: I was doing as a now it really felt like
Speaker 1: I was at home, um, And I'm just happy to
Speaker 1: be a part of the cast in that way, because
Speaker 1: you know, it is a little bit of TV and
Speaker 1: it's a little bit of theater. It doesn't really get
Speaker 1: much better than that. For me, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: You get audience, you can do stuff with your cast
Speaker 1: and your crew. You still get do a little stuff
Speaker 1: in the camera, but you still get to be live
Speaker 1: and in the moment. You know, that's that's the magic.
Speaker 1: So I really love that experience and I love being
Speaker 1: able to be a part of you know you guys,
Speaker 1: family and an honor. And it reminds me and Matt
Speaker 1: and I were talking about this the other day. It
Speaker 1: reminds me of you do increased lived love had never
Speaker 1: been Remember they gave you like a moment where the
Speaker 1: camera like circled you and you were giving the number,
Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm sorry, but this girl is
Speaker 1: stealing the whole show. And I had not changed the
Speaker 1: outfit on youall glasses, yes, crowd. That was such an
Speaker 1: experience of a lifetime. And it's just funny because as
Speaker 1: a kid, I think the way that people described musicals,
Speaker 1: I would always be like, I hate musicals, you know,
Speaker 1: But then meanwhile I'm playing crying baby back and forth,
Speaker 1: like girl, you actually love musicals. It was like a
Speaker 1: trick that I would play on myself. And then as
Speaker 1: I got older and I started getting the opportunity to
Speaker 1: obviously beat in musicals. I mean when I did Greece Live,
Speaker 1: I'm just like this is home, honey, i am here,
Speaker 1: I'm having I mean, me and Vanessa like we were
Speaker 1: live Vanessa Hudgeons Honey, she gives me live like I
Speaker 1: just lived for her. And we had so much fun
Speaker 1: filming us filming, yeah, filming and rehearsing because you know,
Speaker 1: the ain't think it's the rehearsing with one of those
Speaker 1: live event things, because once you do it, it's over.
Speaker 1: So we spent months rehearsing and me and her, we
Speaker 1: would just show up to that sunset honey, laughing and
Speaker 1: cackling and just having our back kept of our lives.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't always remember that. Oh that is
Speaker 1: about I mean talking about being part of a team too,
Speaker 1: because that also has the highest sticks of any live
Speaker 1: performance or any like you know high school musical moment
Speaker 1: of like it's time for the big show, but it's
Speaker 1: like it's time for the biggest show. It's on television period. Yes, literally,
Speaker 1: and we were changing like stages, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like that was one of the I think that was
Speaker 1: the time you know that that ever been done so
Speaker 1: we were really coming with some like crazy technical stuff.
Speaker 1: So I would just remember us running from stage to
Speaker 1: stage and getting in the golf carts and I mean,
Speaker 1: we live for it, honey, we live. It looked like
Speaker 1: so much fun. Literally y'all were in the golf carts,
Speaker 1: the cameras were following you guys in between. It is
Speaker 1: so much fun. I loved it. And then just like
Speaker 1: the energy of Greece as a show is so energetic
Speaker 1: and up, like the way y'all just like had to
Speaker 1: leap until that last number like that we go together
Speaker 1: of it all like it's just not only was like
Speaker 1: high energy on screen, but also the audience has such
Speaker 1: a connection to that musical that like, for me, that
Speaker 1: was the best one that they ever did. I mean
Speaker 1: they like but you know what I mean, I know
Speaker 1: exactly what you mean. The networks and they do feel
Speaker 1: very much so ominous in that way. Well absolutely when
Speaker 1: with Cinderella, because let's not forget we have we have
Speaker 1: a Cinderella in our midst we have a Broadway roll.
Speaker 1: So Cinderella was before Greece Live. Cinderella is actually what
Speaker 1: Mark Platte saw me do. That also made it really
Speaker 1: want me for Greece Live, which is why they had that.
Speaker 1: You know, they really did specify that role for me
Speaker 1: because I'll be honest, you know, as a minority, you know,
Speaker 1: we get into the stage guys where everybody just wants
Speaker 1: a minority because it's like have the Gucci bag, child,
Speaker 1: It's like put them on Marty in it, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. And so when they came, when they
Speaker 1: came to me with Greece Live, I'm like, no, guys,
Speaker 1: are you just trying to stick a minority in it
Speaker 1: because that's the thing to do, or like, what is
Speaker 1: the point of this, you know what? And he was like,
Speaker 1: you know, the point is you're the only one that
Speaker 1: can do what we want to do with Marty. I
Speaker 1: saw you on Cinderella. I saw what you did on Broadway,
Speaker 1: and we don't want to do the Marty from the movie.
Speaker 1: We want to mix the Marty from the movie and
Speaker 1: the Marty with the musical. And we feel like what
Speaker 1: we can do with your number is something that I've
Speaker 1: already seen you do. We want to do a transformation
Speaker 1: on stage, we want to do this and that, and
Speaker 1: so he's like, you're the only the reason why we
Speaker 1: want you. Yeah, it's great you're black, but it really
Speaker 1: is about the fact that you have the skills for
Speaker 1: the role um and so that really helped me because
Speaker 1: I really did come to him like that, and I
Speaker 1: really feel proud of myself doing that in hindsight, because
Speaker 1: you know, you gotta be honest. And I was just like, look,
Speaker 1: I don't want this to be like a tokenism type
Speaker 1: of thing. I don't want to just be like we
Speaker 1: stuck the black witching, you know, like, let's make it happen.
Speaker 1: What's the point? And it was because my talent and
Speaker 1: so I really appreciated that, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And so, yeah, Cinderella is what he saw me do
Speaker 1: and that's what made him say she's our Marty. Yeah.
Speaker 1: What I really wanted to talk to you about, like,
Speaker 1: and I feel like Bowen and I like sort of
Speaker 1: have to negotiate this more and more is it's like,
Speaker 1: when you show that you're able to host, and you
Speaker 1: show that you're able to act and able to sing
Speaker 1: and able to do so many things. Yes, it's like
Speaker 1: great because the opportunities come your way. But something I
Speaker 1: specifically wanted to ask you is how do you choose
Speaker 1: what to do next? And how to let everyone know
Speaker 1: who you are out there that's watching in an industry
Speaker 1: that oftentimes is like demands you be really specific about
Speaker 1: your brand, like are you an actress? Are you a host?
Speaker 1: Are you a reality show person? Are you a singer? Are?
Speaker 1: But you seem to be all of those things in
Speaker 1: a way that not only is because you can do it,
Speaker 1: but because you choose to do it. And that can
Speaker 1: be sometimes kind nerve wracking, No, because yeah, the biggest
Speaker 1: thing is is it sounds very flat. It's probably not enough.
Speaker 1: Is that I really do like doing all those different things,
Speaker 1: and it's based off of me giving myself diversity in
Speaker 1: my career, Like I feel like a truly an artist
Speaker 1: in this regard where it's like I like different mediums,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, I can't do the same
Speaker 1: medium because I would really just boom blow my brains out.
Speaker 1: Like I love acting, but I don't always want to
Speaker 1: dive into a character so damn deep that I lose myself.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I want to be me Kicky Palmer and give
Speaker 1: you all my crazy personality. Then other times I want
Speaker 1: to produce because I don't want to talk to none
Speaker 1: of you motherfucker's and then another time I might want
Speaker 1: to write because I really want to be removed from you'allasses,
Speaker 1: you know, or then I want you know. So it's like,
Speaker 1: but I but I can't step away from art because guys,
Speaker 1: it's literally what I live, breathe and think. Like It's
Speaker 1: like it's what keeps me going in my nights, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like I love artistry, Like I'm
Speaker 1: in the movies all the time, I'm you know, watching theater,
Speaker 1: I'm going to shows, like it's just what I live for.
Speaker 1: And so I think I started doing all those different
Speaker 1: things because of that reason. And I wanted to give
Speaker 1: myself diversity, and I wanted to be able to exercise
Speaker 1: other skills so that I wouldn't always have to be
Speaker 1: a performer in one particular way um or a performer
Speaker 1: at all, you know what I mean. I do see
Speaker 1: a version of my life where I don't have I'm
Speaker 1: not performing every damn project that I do. You know,
Speaker 1: somebody else is starring somebody else's it's exhausting, and it's
Speaker 1: like I love the idea of being able to share
Speaker 1: what I've learned and given it to other young kids
Speaker 1: and young people out there that are trying to break
Speaker 1: into this industry. So you know it is hard, but
Speaker 1: I think you know you just gotta go with your heart.
Speaker 1: I've always gone with my heart, and to be honest,
Speaker 1: a lot of doors were shut for me, and so
Speaker 1: I you know, me doing other things also was based
Speaker 1: off of, Hey, I gotta make a living. I gotta
Speaker 1: I gotta find something else, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I don't want to just be like acting is my
Speaker 1: only damn gig. No, I gotta be able to have
Speaker 1: another gig. And guess what I'm interested too, And so
Speaker 1: you can't be afraid. You gotta be doing it for
Speaker 1: the right reasons. I can guarantee you that I never
Speaker 1: did something saying this will make me a star. You know,
Speaker 1: that's never You can never do Oh my gosh, that
Speaker 1: is like arrested for a disaster. It's always been well,
Speaker 1: what else can I do to stay in this space?
Speaker 1: What else can I add? How much more fun can
Speaker 1: I have doing something? Or what else can interest me?
Speaker 1: You know? What other direction can I go when it
Speaker 1: comes to entertaining? Because I think it's confusing now to
Speaker 1: be in this culture where the messages are mixed, because
Speaker 1: either you hear that you should do a lot of things,
Speaker 1: You should be a lot of things to a lot
Speaker 1: of different people, or you should just stay in your lane.
Speaker 1: Like those are I think those are conflicting messages, right,
Speaker 1: But it's like what we hear how our generation is.
Speaker 1: And by the way, it's that way with our careers,
Speaker 1: it's that way with our identities. It's that like everywhere
Speaker 1: in our lives, somebody is telling our assets to go left,
Speaker 1: and then somebody else is telling even in love love
Speaker 1: and hard, then the next rep love should be easy, baby,
Speaker 1: Which that I was gonna say that for you, Kiki,
Speaker 1: I feel like you're are and this is what you
Speaker 1: were saying earlier. Your art is the fact that you
Speaker 1: do all these things. Your art is that you can
Speaker 1: do all these things. Is that fair? Yes? And what
Speaker 1: I was gonna say to you is that you know what,
Speaker 1: it's okay if everybody doesn't. We go through so many
Speaker 1: different things about how to be happy or how to
Speaker 1: be successful, and then somebody says, well, the trick is
Speaker 1: you gotta do a lot of things, and somebody else's
Speaker 1: the trick is you can't do too much. The trick
Speaker 1: is to be yourself. Yeah, that's exactly right, I have
Speaker 1: a question for you, which is, so I've bet a
Speaker 1: lot of people would like observe Kiki Palmer in nature
Speaker 1: and be like, that's an extrovert for sure. How do
Speaker 1: you do you identify as a as a ten out
Speaker 1: of ten extrovert or are you more like what's unwinding
Speaker 1: for you? Like and do you need that? Are you?
Speaker 1: The truth is I'm tad of folks, I'm very much
Speaker 1: I'm very much an extrovert in terms of like, once
Speaker 1: I'm outside, I can't give y'all nothing to have ass
Speaker 1: that's just not right, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 1: I become an extrovert just by demand, you know, it's
Speaker 1: what the people demand from me. So, and it's been
Speaker 1: since I was a kid, and before I was an entertainer.
Speaker 1: I just felt like we gotta peck this ship up
Speaker 1: around here. So my energy would always become extroverted and
Speaker 1: I would give in that way. That's like what birthed
Speaker 1: me as an entertainer. It's just kind of like, how yes,
Speaker 1: but when it's time to get real, I don't want
Speaker 1: no one, like genuinely, I'm in the house for real,
Speaker 1: and I don't want like I literally just have to
Speaker 1: realize that I don't really like a damn resort honestly
Speaker 1: because I don't want to see nobody, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't want to see you, talk to you nothing. Like
Speaker 1: I've realized that vacation for me is like the best
Speaker 1: vacation is me in a trailer somewhere out isolated. Like
Speaker 1: that's like to be around people that much. Isn't that crazy?
Speaker 1: How you can be so extroverted but then so introverted
Speaker 1: at the same time. And you know what's funny. I
Speaker 1: didn't even realize it until the pandemic. The pandemic came
Speaker 1: through and I was I was like that kind of person.
Speaker 1: That was like, especially when I lived in New York,
Speaker 1: if there's not six things a day on my g COLT,
Speaker 1: I feel like a failure. I would go to bed,
Speaker 1: shut my eyes and be like, well, tomorrow, maybe maybe
Speaker 1: I'll do something. Then the pandemic happened, and because we
Speaker 1: were forced to sit around and do nothing, I realized like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's not that I was being unproductive at like five
Speaker 1: things six things a day, It's just that like I
Speaker 1: was used to going too hard. And then when I
Speaker 1: sat around a little bit, I was like, wait, am
Speaker 1: I an introvert and I don't think that's true. But
Speaker 1: what I realized is it's actually okay to literally turn
Speaker 1: all the way off and that's beneficial to life. Literally,
Speaker 1: I think it's really beneficient to life. Really, I think
Speaker 1: it's been a visible but for both. Like if you're
Speaker 1: somebody that's extremely introverted, I think it's been efficient to
Speaker 1: get out a little bit. And if it's somebody that's
Speaker 1: extremely abstroverted or has a tendency to give a little
Speaker 1: bit more in the company of others, even with you know,
Speaker 1: so just subconsciously you kind of fill the space, you know,
Speaker 1: with that you're trying to you should take a break sometimes,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's okay to be in
Speaker 1: the house and to actively create scenarios for you to
Speaker 1: kind of just like be alone. You know, there's a
Speaker 1: difference between being alone and be and lonely. Just because
Speaker 1: you're alone doesn't mean you're lonely, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Just because you're lonely doesn't mean you're alone. I think
Speaker 1: we treated like skincare because literally it's this thing where
Speaker 1: like the daytime routine is you're getting ready to go outside,
Speaker 1: you're protecting yourself from like all the elements of the
Speaker 1: outside world. The nighttime routine is you're recuperating and you're
Speaker 1: recovering internally so that like by the time you wake up,
Speaker 1: you're like fully refreshed. It's like that kind of thing
Speaker 1: where it's like the barrier has to be like maintained.
Speaker 1: The barrier has to be like upheld and safe. The
Speaker 1: balance has to be kept. The balance has to be kept.
Speaker 1: Speaking of skincare, okay, Kiki, First of all, congrats, you
Speaker 1: just want a New York Film Critic Circle Award for
Speaker 1: Best Parting Actions for no congratulations, And then it was
Speaker 1: if that's say not you went home and you did
Speaker 1: you posted this video on Instagram or maybe TikTok. I've
Speaker 1: had locked the secret to skincare. What is that, honey,
Speaker 1: it's getting knocked up. You got to have a baby, okay,
Speaker 1: because the way that this baby has had so let
Speaker 1: me tell you something. I've dealt with a lot of
Speaker 1: skin issues, mainly because of hormones. You know. I mean
Speaker 1: sometimes I'll be honest, sometimes the hormone stuff is triggered
Speaker 1: by first of all, I think I'm naturally born that way.
Speaker 1: With a little bit more testosterone. If your hormoneson balance,
Speaker 1: like minds can be, you probably produce more. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You're just just the way that your
Speaker 1: glands work. It just it just it don't work for
Speaker 1: the skin. And it can affect everybody differently. Some people
Speaker 1: can you know, make them gain weight, It can give
Speaker 1: them acne, you can make them have skin discolorations, you know.
Speaker 1: It Just the list goes on when it comes to
Speaker 1: hormones and food and just all that stuff. So I've
Speaker 1: always dealt with that, right and I've always been on
Speaker 1: this journey. I'm trying to figure it out, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. And people will try to tell me
Speaker 1: drink water, you know what I mean. It's this, It
Speaker 1: is that nothing topical can really save you from your biology,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Changing your diet is honestly
Speaker 1: probably the best thing that you can do. However, when
Speaker 1: you get pregnant, your hormones change. And I'm right now,
Speaker 1: whatever that damn baby is doing to me, whatever that
Speaker 1: baby is giving to me, it has balanced me, y'all.
Speaker 1: It really really has given The baby has given me
Speaker 1: whatever that I didn't have before, that baby has given
Speaker 1: it to me. Honey, the baby is working all. My
Speaker 1: baby is helping me already, y'all. And the way that
Speaker 1: I just can't even believe baby, the baby is retting
Speaker 1: all the baby. The baby is my accutane, like the
Speaker 1: baby is getting it going in. And I'm just shocked, y'all,
Speaker 1: because you know, I've changed my diet and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure that my diet is helping to some degree,
Speaker 1: Like I haven't been eating a lot of gluten, I
Speaker 1: haven't been eating dairy. That obviously is helping, right, But
Speaker 1: I've done that before without the baby, and I didn't
Speaker 1: receive these extreme of results. So I mean, I do
Speaker 1: believe that the baby, y'all. I don't know what I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do. I'm about to be pregnant for the rest
Speaker 1: of my life because if this is what babies can
Speaker 1: do for you, the real gift, the real gift of
Speaker 1: skincare and actress, this pregnancy down down and so I'm thrilled.
Speaker 1: But how are you feeling though? Overall? Has it been good?
Speaker 1: Outside of that? I think that my baby is like
Speaker 1: it's like a warrior or something like this, because I've
Speaker 1: been and I have not had no nausea like I've
Speaker 1: had moments where it's like like where I'll be just
Speaker 1: sitting there. It's kind of funny. It's kind of funny
Speaker 1: how it happens. Like, Guys, I'll be sitting there and
Speaker 1: like in the middle of a conversation with someone, and
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, I'll just go like it'll
Speaker 1: just make me feel that way, and then it just
Speaker 1: be over with, Like I won't actually throw up, I
Speaker 1: won't actually need to run to the bathroom. It doesn't
Speaker 1: last more than like ten seconds, but it's like a
Speaker 1: wave of something. I'm like, that's wait. My aunt was
Speaker 1: pregnant and sometimes we'd be sitting there. She'd be in
Speaker 1: her babies beat the pool, and I would just see
Speaker 1: like a hand like literally goes through the stomach. Is
Speaker 1: your baby moving around a lot? My baby moves all
Speaker 1: the time. Right now, I met like one weeks, so
Speaker 1: the baby is almost like, you know, it's getting bigger,
Speaker 1: and eventually it's going to get to the point where
Speaker 1: I probably will see fingers and stuff like that, but
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's that big. Yeah, Like I
Speaker 1: don't know if the power is there yet, but I
Speaker 1: definitely feel and you can see some movement. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: what you're telling me this is going to be an
Speaker 1: Aquarius baby or a Pisces baby, just to tell you
Speaker 1: what I need to damn no, because emotional, emotional, I
Speaker 1: need born Mark fifth. I'm Pisces rising, Pisces cancer moon.
Speaker 1: So it's I'm about to break into tears right now.
Speaker 1: You're really in the emotions. It's giving water, signed very
Speaker 1: very deeply. And I would say your child is gonna
Speaker 1: be emotional and there's gonna be swings, but it's gonna
Speaker 1: be worth it because the baby will be creative and
Speaker 1: sensitive and love you, love you to death. Pisces, I
Speaker 1: actually believe our mama's children. Oh my god, I'm just
Speaker 1: so feared about that because I really just tell you,
Speaker 1: I'm so excited to be dancing with my damn baby.
Speaker 1: I'm excited just be like hey baby, like I'm just
Speaker 1: ready to be just giving all the love and attitude
Speaker 1: and like and so tell me what they said to you.
Speaker 1: You did you gass Like I'm readily just like go
Speaker 1: to tell with this damn baby. Yeah. I just think
Speaker 1: about it every day of just like, what's it gonna
Speaker 1: be like when you know I first lay eyes on
Speaker 1: you and you know, how's it gonna be. We get
Speaker 1: our first moments together, you know what I mean? But also,
Speaker 1: are you gonna bust my damn vagina part that too? Well? Probably? Yeah.
Speaker 1: I just learned that the epidural was like a tube
Speaker 1: that they're sticking your back. That's scarier than the damn
Speaker 1: natural birth do guys during childbirth? You might not be
Speaker 1: thinking that way, they say. You might be like, let's
Speaker 1: plug me in. He might be asking for ever I
Speaker 1: was reading, people are like, my back ain't never been
Speaker 1: the same. They really do lie about childbirth. That like
Speaker 1: when you're a little kid and they're like, and she's pregnant,
Speaker 1: she goes for nine months to have a healthy baby,
Speaker 1: and it's like you get to be an adult and
Speaker 1: you realize, like really what it is. It's like, okay,
Speaker 1: so this shouldn't happen, but does you know the whole
Speaker 1: thing is like the painful thing about it is like
Speaker 1: your vagina stretching to the size of a fucking baby watermelon, Like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, scream queens right me, And mostly all
Speaker 1: the scream queens are like have kids or you know,
Speaker 1: pregnant myself. Emma, like all of us, Emma, Oh my God,
Speaker 1: scream Mothers, Oh Joe, Booster, Pisces, Pisces, Elpier, Baby Dane,
Speaker 1: and Jordan too. Really because okay, I just want to
Speaker 1: say more about Nope, because like what I also loved
Speaker 1: was it's actually a really emotional movie. And I actually think,
Speaker 1: like it's really crazy with Jordan because so get out happens,
Speaker 1: and it's one thing, it's like the satire of our time.
Speaker 1: I believe, I believe that there has not been a
Speaker 1: better script written. And then there's Us, which is more
Speaker 1: surreal horror, and then there's Nope, which and I think
Speaker 1: if you were thinking Jordan Peel, you think like, oh,
Speaker 1: horror first nowadays, and then like like he has a
Speaker 1: satirical elements. But these are three very different movies. Like
Speaker 1: Nope really is like this sci fi western that calls
Speaker 1: back to horror movies in many different ways. But what
Speaker 1: I love about sci fi and western is it really
Speaker 1: does have a very like emotional core. And like this
Speaker 1: is about like Bone was saying, it's about like fame
Speaker 1: and spectatorship, but I also find it's like a very
Speaker 1: thoughtful movie about nature and about how some things are
Speaker 1: just bigger than us, and like we do have to
Speaker 1: have reverence and awe, but also like it's a pretty
Speaker 1: simple story about family and like just so many things.
Speaker 1: But one comment I specifically wanted to make, and the
Speaker 1: cinephiles out there probably picked up on this, but my
Speaker 1: favorite scene in the whole movie is when you guys
Speaker 1: are sitting with the cinematographer in the house before the
Speaker 1: big events of the climax and he says that monologue
Speaker 1: about the one one people leader. What I loved about
Speaker 1: that was that was specifically mapped on the quint monologue
Speaker 1: and Jaws. And this is how you know that Jordan
Speaker 1: is really, first and foremost truly a comedian, because no
Speaker 1: filmmaker that was up his own ass would ever be like,
Speaker 1: and I'm going to spend this moment in the movie
Speaker 1: like referencing this iconic scene from a movie that's so
Speaker 1: obvious has inspired this one. But that was really like
Speaker 1: I was laughing and rolling in my house watching that
Speaker 1: because the whole one eye, one horned gilet purple people
Speaker 1: earner monologue taking the place of that iconic monologue that
Speaker 1: quinted in Jaws. To me, that was like such a funny,
Speaker 1: irreverent thing for him to do, and so it succeeded
Speaker 1: for me on that level to like so much funnier
Speaker 1: than I think people are talking about. It shows that
Speaker 1: he really really understands film and film structure in his
Speaker 1: whole entire point to spin it all on its head,
Speaker 1: from Steven Young being an OSCAR nominated actor and then
Speaker 1: us having characters like Key from Everybody Everywhere all at once,
Speaker 1: who started out as a kid actor and never got
Speaker 1: a chance to really be a star like that paid
Speaker 1: away for the reality of someone like Steven Young being
Speaker 1: being who he is and not being the brunt of
Speaker 1: a joke or just existing to be a cliche because
Speaker 1: of his identity, Like that's the movie that that can
Speaker 1: be made, and that should be made. He should be
Speaker 1: the star, he should be on the posters, he should
Speaker 1: be the one we're going to see, or the fact
Speaker 1: that he's amazing. I love both of them, Key and Stephen,
Speaker 1: but just like what that is. And then the fact
Speaker 1: of the whole commentary on my character, who you assume
Speaker 1: is just going to be the jester who's just the
Speaker 1: comedic edge, but then turns around and somehow finds our
Speaker 1: way to be becoming the hero as a black queer woman.
Speaker 1: It's like, this is the structure, this is the thing,
Speaker 1: but this is the now without being like on the nose,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, It's like, how did you
Speaker 1: do it? Yeah? I love that there were so many
Speaker 1: there were so many layers, and I think it's just
Speaker 1: so smart and I think, honestly, the stuff with the
Speaker 1: chimp on the set of the sitcom was some of
Speaker 1: the most inventive, genuinely scary stuff I had ever seen.
Speaker 1: And the detail of the shoe as like a pull
Speaker 1: from a traumatic memory that shows how his memory of
Speaker 1: it is really distorted, was just really really well done.
Speaker 1: I mean, like breaking new his notpe was great, but
Speaker 1: like it took me a while because I really do
Speaker 1: get scared and very anxious. I'm an anxious person and
Speaker 1: hard for me to sit in the movie theater and
Speaker 1: like really do that without focusing the entire time, not
Speaker 1: on the movie but on how I'm physically feeling, because
Speaker 1: my shoulders are up to my ears. But I'm really
Speaker 1: happy I got out of my own way and watched
Speaker 1: this because any movie lover would love this movie. Yes,
Speaker 1: I feel the exact same way, and that's the thing,
Speaker 1: Like any movie lover like, if you love movies, you're
Speaker 1: gonna love everything Jordan does. I'm excited for what's next.
Speaker 1: So does that script get sent to you or do
Speaker 1: you have to audition for it? That script? As crazy
Speaker 1: as it is, Jordan called me on the phone, sent
Speaker 1: me the script and it was mine, you know. And
Speaker 1: it's so funny that that is such a rare thing, guys,
Speaker 1: It really is. It's a rare thing for you to
Speaker 1: just get a script. And it's like, you know, especially
Speaker 1: for it to be someone on Jordan's feels level. So
Speaker 1: like for him to be that certain that he wanted
Speaker 1: me for the role um is in incredible, you know.
Speaker 1: But again it's for me it all so meta too,
Speaker 1: because it's just like, you know, here this movie is
Speaker 1: where we have this whole dialogue about a child star
Speaker 1: and and exploitation, um, you know, and here I am
Speaker 1: as a child entertainer, and I feel very much like,
Speaker 1: you know, wrangling the industry and becoming who I've become
Speaker 1: and being, as you guys were saying, somebody that has
Speaker 1: not stuck to the norm or what people told me
Speaker 1: to be. I very much, from my in my own way,
Speaker 1: felt like I was wrangling a beast that at the
Speaker 1: end of it, I stood tall on the other side,
Speaker 1: and then none of it really mattered in the end,
Speaker 1: like to prove myself or to be validated or for
Speaker 1: people to recognize me, you know, once you make it
Speaker 1: to that that point and you realizing you see things
Speaker 1: for what they really are, like Emerald does when she's
Speaker 1: at the top of that mountain and she really sees
Speaker 1: the thing for what it really is. The only thing
Speaker 1: that matters this family, you know, The only thing that
Speaker 1: matters are the things that are that are priceless and
Speaker 1: most usually the things you already always had, you know.
Speaker 1: So again, it's so the movie hits us all. It's
Speaker 1: so many different unique ways, and it's like, how can
Speaker 1: one movie have so many meanings? Yeah, you mentioned being
Speaker 1: like you know, a child actor, and I wonder, like nowadays,
Speaker 1: like we hear so many different accounts of people who
Speaker 1: went through that experience, like you know, Janette mccourty's book,
Speaker 1: and like the way that we've like had to re
Speaker 1: examine like the Britney Spears of it all and so
Speaker 1: many things. I wonder, what's your personal narrative of being
Speaker 1: a child star and how you came through that because
Speaker 1: we don't hear you talk about that too much. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I definitely had my moments of being like angry and
Speaker 1: being just overworked and tired. I think all of us
Speaker 1: did you know when you're a kid working in corporate,
Speaker 1: because let's be honest, as we all know, it's entertainment, honey,
Speaker 1: but it's still corporate, you know. We we just like
Speaker 1: everybody else, there's an element of the man say it so,
Speaker 1: you know, to mean we all feel that. And so
Speaker 1: it was the same for me as a kid working
Speaker 1: with Nickelodeon and Disney and having to do hours and
Speaker 1: hours of of shooting and hours and hours of marketing.
Speaker 1: And then I didn't go to real school and my
Speaker 1: parents were really strict and over protective, and I was
Speaker 1: making a lot of money and my parents were scared
Speaker 1: of that because they didn't want me to become an asshole.
Speaker 1: So then they were really even more strict, and I
Speaker 1: felt like they didn't understand me. And then we had beef,
Speaker 1: and you know, all of that stuff does happen because
Speaker 1: fame it's traumatic, and a child being a star, you know,
Speaker 1: having their own show, it's traumatic. It changes the entire
Speaker 1: family structure and everything kind of ends up going towards
Speaker 1: that child, helping to support that child, that business, that thing,
Speaker 1: and it's just like not a usual thing that you
Speaker 1: deal with. And so I'm very blessed and grateful that
Speaker 1: my family overcame it because what we often hear and
Speaker 1: what people often think about when they think about child actresses,
Speaker 1: you know so and sold, they ain't hunting momain cool
Speaker 1: no more, or you know so and so they got
Speaker 1: on drill ugs or you know, money, tore up the family,
Speaker 1: and all those things could have happened to my family.
Speaker 1: We definitely experienced intensity. People trying to turn me against
Speaker 1: my parents, people trying to steal me from my parents
Speaker 1: and break our trunts and infiltrate our family dynamic. All
Speaker 1: that ship is horrible, but people do it. We see
Speaker 1: it all the time, you know what I mean, We
Speaker 1: see it in succession. It ain't different just because you're
Speaker 1: a kid. People are are vicious out here. But my family,
Speaker 1: now we really overcame it, and so I think and
Speaker 1: now because we overcame it, and my adult mind, the
Speaker 1: way that I speak about all of that is very
Speaker 1: much so like, oh, you know, yeah, we just moved on,
Speaker 1: and you know what, I mean, we found a way
Speaker 1: and we got through. But if I were, you know,
Speaker 1: I wrote a book about it, and whenever I get
Speaker 1: really into it, I can really break it down. But
Speaker 1: the truth of the matter is I look at it
Speaker 1: like any of us do, any of our family trials
Speaker 1: and tribulations. It's extreme to a person that didn't experience
Speaker 1: child acting, but it's no different than you saying I
Speaker 1: decided to forgive my parents, or you know, we got
Speaker 1: over it. You know, we moved on. That's what it's
Speaker 1: like for me. Crazy things happened. It was intense, but
Speaker 1: my parents, who told my parents how to raise the child,
Speaker 1: entertaining with our own damn show making millions, So they
Speaker 1: were doing the best they could. And so you know,
Speaker 1: that's how I look at it, and I just move
Speaker 1: on and I love my parents were very close still,
Speaker 1: and my mom and I would still do business together,
Speaker 1: and my siblings and I were closer than ever, especially
Speaker 1: now that I have more time. You know, that was
Speaker 1: probably the saddest thing for me as a kid, was
Speaker 1: never having enough time for anybody. Um, you know, I
Speaker 1: was working just so much. I couldn't make it to
Speaker 1: any plays. Sometimes I would miss holidays and that stuff
Speaker 1: used to kill me as a kid, and so I
Speaker 1: definitely wanted to make that up to them as I
Speaker 1: got older, and um, you know, I definitely don't want
Speaker 1: that to be the reality for for my baby. So
Speaker 1: I've learned how to how to maneuver when it comes
Speaker 1: to my career to sense. That's kind of interesting. Like ultimately,
Speaker 1: you saw them on Star just like your character and
Speaker 1: No open realize what was important and you know made
Speaker 1: it through exactly. That's why when I watched No recognized
Speaker 1: what the how I interpreted that For me, it really
Speaker 1: was kind of like mind blowing. I like cry the
Speaker 1: craziest tears. That's incredible. We should ask the question it's
Speaker 1: time in a perfect segue from childhood into the question. Absolutely, okay,
Speaker 1: this is the question we ask all of our guests
Speaker 1: on Lost Cultures. So, Keikie Palmer, what is the culture
Speaker 1: that made you say? Culture is for me? This is
Speaker 1: the pop culture that made you move into that direction
Speaker 1: in your life. So give me y'all's answers so I
Speaker 1: can understand exactly the context of this question. But what
Speaker 1: would you say for you? Like between the two of us,
Speaker 1: me and Matt, like I think our answers change individually
Speaker 1: from time to time. I think a common one but
Speaker 1: that Matt and I share is the Academy Awards. When
Speaker 1: Titanic was nominated for all those awards, that was like
Speaker 1: what got me like keyed into like show business and
Speaker 1: I was like, Wow, this is what people can do,
Speaker 1: and like there's Celine Dion saying my heart will go on,
Speaker 1: and like there's just all of it sort of like
Speaker 1: opened up to me in this way it can be
Speaker 1: that it can even be before that, Like for me,
Speaker 1: Mariah Carrey, the album by Mariah Carrey changed who I was. Also, like,
Speaker 1: when I watched television show Lost, I realized I wanted
Speaker 1: to be a part of television. Like it's like those
Speaker 1: things that you can look back on and you were like,
Speaker 1: but you started so young. That must have either happened
Speaker 1: either really young or maybe even a little delayed because
Speaker 1: you were in the biz. Yeah. I think it was
Speaker 1: a couple of things. Yeah, So I think one of
Speaker 1: them was Selena. Yes, Yes, when I watched Selena the
Speaker 1: way did they hit me? And why did you can
Speaker 1: pack someone the way? Did she was impact her community?
Speaker 1: Had a community back? Yes, I really, honey, who's on
Speaker 1: your shirt right now? Is that Tony Who? I first
Speaker 1: I thought that that was the mid nineties Tony Braxton
Speaker 1: first of the hand a little that's hilarious, and I
Speaker 1: was about to really go in Selena of that movie.
Speaker 1: That movie really talked about somebody changing, something change in
Speaker 1: your life. That movie, I would say The Wood, which
Speaker 1: is this film by Rick Famula. It is about three guys.
Speaker 1: It's Omar Epps Hey Digs another actor who I hate
Speaker 1: that I can't remember his name. But it's about these
Speaker 1: three guys. You know, one of them is from the South,
Speaker 1: the other two are from l A. The dude from
Speaker 1: the South moves to l A specifically in Inglewood, and
Speaker 1: it's about how they grew up in l A. And
Speaker 1: it's like not like a sad movie or like you know,
Speaker 1: a whole somebody got shot, you know, I mean things
Speaker 1: went hey why It was kind of just like a
Speaker 1: regular black American coming to the age. Story and in
Speaker 1: the culture was so present, but it wasn't rooted in oppression.
Speaker 1: And I remember watching that as a kid and just
Speaker 1: being like, man, just such a great movie about just
Speaker 1: young brothers growing up in America and like having a
Speaker 1: good life and like getting ready to go to their wedding.
Speaker 1: Like the whole movie was told in flashbacks as they're
Speaker 1: trying to get their best friend prepared for his wedding
Speaker 1: because he's like up the next morning drunk and they're
Speaker 1: trying to get him to his wedding, and the whole
Speaker 1: day they're like talking about remember this when we was
Speaker 1: in high school, and then we keep going back to flashbacks,
Speaker 1: and so I remember watching that movie as a kid,
Speaker 1: and I think that definitely, I've always felt very masculine
Speaker 1: as well as I felt feminine. That's why I like,
Speaker 1: if somebody want to or to ask me or to
Speaker 1: talk to me about gender, that would probably say the
Speaker 1: way that I think is very gender non conforming. I
Speaker 1: just don't subscribe to the label of it because obviously
Speaker 1: I hate labels. Anybody that knows me knows labels get
Speaker 1: on my damn nerd because it's like ship it makes
Speaker 1: me feel like y'all want to force me to just
Speaker 1: be what you want me to be. So I'm a
Speaker 1: little bit like sitting in that regard, and I do
Speaker 1: feel like I want to force people to see a
Speaker 1: woman as being all these different things. You know what,
Speaker 1: I'm saying, I want to force your as to understand that, yeah,
Speaker 1: I can't be this and I can't be there, and
Speaker 1: I can still be a woman. You gotta deal with
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And so but but the
Speaker 1: way that I think about it is very much so
Speaker 1: like gender non conforming. So when I watched that movie,
Speaker 1: even though those were me and I saw myself, you know,
Speaker 1: and I wanted to I admired, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I grew up with My dad's one of nine boys.
Speaker 1: My dad is an amazing dad. And so I've always
Speaker 1: just loved seeing those images because just as much as
Speaker 1: I wanted to emulate Brandy or Whitney, I also wanted
Speaker 1: to emulate those images as well. Definitely um and so
Speaker 1: I really really impacted me as a kid seeing that movie.
Speaker 1: It was so inspiring. So the wood Selena. And then
Speaker 1: if I were to give like a third, I would
Speaker 1: just want to give you one last third because this
Speaker 1: is a heavy, heavy question. It would probably be Kekey
Speaker 1: Palmer when she said sorry to this man entire generation.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like it's like it was a cultural reset.
Speaker 1: It's like all other memes before that walked so Kecky Palmer. Sorry,
Speaker 1: I mean literally in my group chat whenever the day
Speaker 1: is I'm gonna group chat with, say someone I don't know,
Speaker 1: I sent a picture of your face looking down at
Speaker 1: the paper, and they know exactly that I don't know
Speaker 1: who the funk they're talking about three and a half years.
Speaker 1: By the way, guys, when that thing happened, it was
Speaker 1: as if I had a hit movie theaters. I'm like
Speaker 1: that response, the response to start to this man is
Speaker 1: absolutely like I cannot wait to see what the world
Speaker 1: is like in twenty years so I can tell my kids,
Speaker 1: like there was this thing called means, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, because our world is so unique and interesting,
Speaker 1: and that's like such a unique and very serendipitous, insane
Speaker 1: thing that happened. Like for that mean to be like that,
Speaker 1: you probably left filming that that day and we're like
Speaker 1: not even thinking about it. No, I was just like, okay,
Speaker 1: you know, moved on, you know what I mean, because
Speaker 1: it will be a thing where it's so organic. It's
Speaker 1: like you know now that everything's gonna be like AI
Speaker 1: in the next like literally or freaking Avatar or freaking
Speaker 1: Avatar Avatar. I had my ass crying though, I mean,
Speaker 1: come on, it got us, It really got us, all
Speaker 1: three of us. I think a man has to be stopped.
Speaker 1: James has to be stopped. He makes you quite too
Speaker 1: much all his movies. I mean, how is it that
Speaker 1: he's done. I think maybe just ten movies, or even
Speaker 1: under ten movies, three in which are in the top
Speaker 1: two in which are in the top three grossing movies ever,
Speaker 1: one being Titanic, the other being Avatar. And it's one
Speaker 1: thing for somebody to give you visual effects. I think
Speaker 1: a lot of people can give us visual effects right like,
Speaker 1: not that I'm not impressed by it. I think it's
Speaker 1: an incredible skill in art. But most of the time,
Speaker 1: when someone gives you crazy action and visual effects, they
Speaker 1: fall apart on the storyline. The storyline has no um, integrity,
Speaker 1: no originality, it has no emotion to it. This man does.
Speaker 1: And I'm quite altered by it because and almost it
Speaker 1: makes me not want to go see his movies sometimes,
Speaker 1: because I've seen Titanic and everybody knows how I feel
Speaker 1: about that damn movie and what happened when my girl
Speaker 1: did not say Jack's life. That tears me up to
Speaker 1: this day. Now I had to watch Aft too, and
Speaker 1: when I went home, I was silent the rest of
Speaker 1: the evening because of what I had to go through
Speaker 1: watching that movie. That man has to be stopped because
Speaker 1: he takes you upon this action adventure and emotionally connects
Speaker 1: you to these people that aren't real, and then you
Speaker 1: have to watch the families get tore apart. I'm tired
Speaker 1: of him stopped. He's got to be stopped, y'all. He's
Speaker 1: too too much. He's got a lot going on. Well,
Speaker 1: we were saying Bowen and I were saying the other
Speaker 1: day that because he makes movies with the intention of
Speaker 1: entertaining the entire world, like he it's almost like the
Speaker 1: world he has a different assignment than everyone else. Like
Speaker 1: he's like, my movies are going to be seen worldwide,
Speaker 1: and so it's going to be broad and emotional enough
Speaker 1: that everyone has a way in I think that's what
Speaker 1: we're responding to. It's like there is something specific in
Speaker 1: human pain, in family, in sacrifice for family, Like he
Speaker 1: has a very good grip on what is going to
Speaker 1: hit us in the heart because he's thinking in a
Speaker 1: very universal way, because his movies are very universal. It's
Speaker 1: so true. You know, you have people online, they're like,
Speaker 1: these are African people, and they have like these are
Speaker 1: Indian people, and like these are like everybody's like these
Speaker 1: are my people, and I'm like, that's James Cameron's point.
Speaker 1: They're all of our people. They're all of anybody that's
Speaker 1: connected to an indigenous When you watch that movie, your
Speaker 1: feelings are hurt because you're like you go from the
Speaker 1: surface of what's happening in the movie to these movie
Speaker 1: people and then you're like, this probably happened to my ancestors,
Speaker 1: or this probably happened to people in real life. Oh ship,
Speaker 1: he wants you to think about that. He got me
Speaker 1: crying about a whale mama. We talked about that whale
Speaker 1: mama because you know why of wale mama was murdered
Speaker 1: probably just last week for the same type of reasons
Speaker 1: in this made up creature in Avatar, like he is
Speaker 1: thinking about that and tapping into every type of vibe
Speaker 1: that he has to be stopped, y'all. Well, this is
Speaker 1: the thing for him to recoup on the on the
Speaker 1: budget of the film. He has to appeal to the
Speaker 1: broadest audience possible, right, and so these movies end up
Speaker 1: being about family, which everyone can relate to. And then
Speaker 1: the sort of unifying the glue of it all is this,
Speaker 1: like I think it's a very self aware kind of
Speaker 1: like corn baldness. It's corny because it's corny. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: there's nothing more earnest about loving family. And I also
Speaker 1: think people need to stop thinking that corny and cheesy
Speaker 1: is not good. I'm one of those people that absolutely
Speaker 1: I think the indie movie is great. I think, you know,
Speaker 1: going super niche super art house is absolutely radical. But
Speaker 1: when you can give the emotion and the originality of
Speaker 1: a movie like that with the commercial appeal that people
Speaker 1: like James Cameron bring to me, You'll take a ship
Speaker 1: to the next fucking level. Because I think that is
Speaker 1: hard to freaking Titanic who told him to put a
Speaker 1: love story in in the middle of a historical event
Speaker 1: that was yeah, I mean like and also the fact
Speaker 1: that you left that movie caring so deeply about them.
Speaker 1: It's like they're not real, They're not real. You know
Speaker 1: who's real, the almost people who died. But meanwhile, like,
Speaker 1: we have this fictional couple that like really in that way.
Speaker 1: Because he made us care about these two, we then
Speaker 1: care about everyone that had a very full life that
Speaker 1: we're lost on that ship. I also think that that's
Speaker 1: this man's point. When I did a little bit of research,
Speaker 1: a little bit digging about James Cameron, he is a
Speaker 1: very like The reason why a lot of his movies
Speaker 1: also even include water is because he's very obsessed with water,
Speaker 1: in nature, in saving the world, and he's really into
Speaker 1: the global just welfare of our human life and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. So I think that is a big dedication
Speaker 1: to his work is to make us think about that,
Speaker 1: to make us think about lives loss, to make us
Speaker 1: think about you know, people were murdered and killed, and
Speaker 1: you know people are dying and the ocean is being
Speaker 1: He wants you to be sad and think about that stuff.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It seems like it because
Speaker 1: he keeps putting it in the movies. Uh. Matt and
Speaker 1: I were talking about this on the podcast. We're like,
Speaker 1: you know, like, these are kind of like my roadblocks
Speaker 1: with Avatar. But I think you've really like bulldozed past
Speaker 1: them because there are roadblocks. Let's be honest. A lot
Speaker 1: of people are sick of him, you know, a lot
Speaker 1: of people are like through it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But I'll tell you long. Kicky Palmer will always be
Speaker 1: like a cup half full person. I always am like
Speaker 1: you know, but also was it this? You know? It's
Speaker 1: a little bit burning your bridge because if James Cameron
Speaker 1: calls with the wrong avatar forms Song of the Skies,
Speaker 1: we want Mama to fly the ship, okay, because I
Speaker 1: could be the next to Gerney. Just call me, give
Speaker 1: me the next to Guerney. Just her at sixty, I
Speaker 1: think is a whole movement, like do you know what
Speaker 1: I think people are forgetting that. The reason why Kirie
Speaker 1: is who she is is because she cut her own
Speaker 1: bangs and it went a certain way. So Kirie s
Speaker 1: going to be here as a team. Cut her own
Speaker 1: bangs clearly, and her bangs are a flop, and she's
Speaker 1: self conscious in the movie about her banks looking crazy,
Speaker 1: and that's why she feels a certain way. And that's
Speaker 1: a subtext that only I'm recognizing in the movie, but
Speaker 1: that avatar clearly from her own bangs. She was trying
Speaker 1: something out in her adolescence. The bangs went left, and
Speaker 1: she feels on the outside of her family because and
Speaker 1: that is a cautionary tale about why you don't take
Speaker 1: assisted to your banks. Girls. I understand we all think
Speaker 1: that they might bring our face together, but you gotta
Speaker 1: go to a professional. She needed to go to wherever
Speaker 1: in the Navi culture they cut bangs professionally. There are
Speaker 1: women out there that are that have clearly have you know,
Speaker 1: cosmetology degrees, that could do a nabby world in Pandora.
Speaker 1: But she did not find them. She went into her
Speaker 1: own layer and she cut her own bangs and it
Speaker 1: didn't go well, and that's why she was cranky. I'll
Speaker 1: moving along. I can't believe when his mom has had
Speaker 1: that damn caesia from the damned spiritual, I say, get
Speaker 1: that shit out of here. Day she really was having
Speaker 1: she plugged in and things did not go good. Can
Speaker 1: you imagine like being on set that day and watching
Speaker 1: Sigourney like in the motion capture outfit, like having a
Speaker 1: caesure as a tea in like the water in the water.
Speaker 1: Damn a hell of a movie to shoot, honey. I mean,
Speaker 1: what's the hardest she you've ever done? Hardest she you've
Speaker 1: ever done? It had to be Nope, a lot of running,
Speaker 1: just a lot of energy, exert a lot of intensity
Speaker 1: to like the whole town. Yeah, did you do stripping
Speaker 1: class for Hustlers? Did she did? Okay? And then you
Speaker 1: got to tell j Lo in person about Selena about
Speaker 1: like the impact the movie had. You had to amazing.
Speaker 1: I did I let her know. I mean, I know
Speaker 1: she's heard at the time and time and time and
Speaker 1: time again. But guys, it's just true that movie. It's
Speaker 1: honestly it is. You know, it impacted me so deep
Speaker 1: as a child. I was hugging the damn tv mm hmm.
Speaker 1: That lady impacted her community. Oh my gosh, I love Selena,
Speaker 1: Selena Cantonia's that should have been her first OSCAR nomination
Speaker 1: and Hustler should have been the second. And we all
Speaker 1: know it. Honestly, it felt like that for me. I
Speaker 1: felt like, if we went back at the time and
Speaker 1: she want to ask you for Selena, I will be happy,
Speaker 1: just like I would be happy if if want to
Speaker 1: turn those are two biopicks. Thats just like, come on, y'all,
Speaker 1: that's quit around and who else could have done it?
Speaker 1: You know? Nobody? You know, nobody, truly, nobody, truly nobody. Oh,
Speaker 1: before we move on, the perfect companion piece to starry
Speaker 1: to this man, is you on? Kiki? Michael and Sarah going,
Speaker 1: I know that man. I love that man. Do you
Speaker 1: know what? Because that man I didn't know, and I
Speaker 1: just couldn't who was that man? Who was that man?
Speaker 1: Currently sorry to this man. That was the point in
Speaker 1: your career that I was like, this is interesting now
Speaker 1: you being a daytime TV host, even you were surprised.
Speaker 1: I mean, that was then another character, honey, And I
Speaker 1: was living forward. I was living my daytime TV job.
Speaker 1: I was living for waking up and going to the
Speaker 1: job and being done at noon, the conversations, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, having fun like it was such as
Speaker 1: something that I didn't see coming. I was just kind
Speaker 1: of like, well why not, why the hell not? You
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like I have the time, I'm available,
Speaker 1: Like I love Michael, I like Sarah, like this is cool,
Speaker 1: Like let's ride this out and see what goals down. Love.
Speaker 1: The only reason why we stopped again, I guess the
Speaker 1: universe guy, you and I always trust God in the universal.
Speaker 1: I was just like, leave it up, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. And COVID happened and they kind of wanted
Speaker 1: me to continue on, but they changed the show to
Speaker 1: being more Newsy and I'm not more Newsy. You know,
Speaker 1: I mean I didn't go to had a journalist in
Speaker 1: that way, you know what I mean, more of a
Speaker 1: personality and you know, conversationalist if anything, you're not a
Speaker 1: journalist like Michael Straham I'm on the floor shade. So
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, I don't think news E
Speaker 1: is for me, um, but they still continue to support
Speaker 1: me throughout COVID, and I thought that was like amazing
Speaker 1: and awesome. You know. After COVID, we all were just
Speaker 1: kind of figuring out what we're gonna do. And I
Speaker 1: was like, it's COVID and it's tough out here, but
Speaker 1: I can't do the news y'all. Yeah, I'm obsessed with
Speaker 1: your catchphrase of I'm on the floor. I'm on the floor, yeah,
Speaker 1: because it's like, girl, what does that even mean? For real? Why?
Speaker 1: Why is that I'm on the floor? That's the peak,
Speaker 1: like I'm that I'm on the floor. Wait before we
Speaker 1: move on to I Don't Think Sunny for real, I
Speaker 1: have to ask you, do you know my friend Jennifer Lewis.
Speaker 1: I'm on a show on Showtime called I Love That
Speaker 1: for You with Jennifer Lewis, and I do want to
Speaker 1: know your friend Jennifer Lewis to see what do you think?
Speaker 1: I feel the connection between you guys, and all I
Speaker 1: want is for you guys to do a project together.
Speaker 1: I want it to do a project together. Tell me
Speaker 1: why I was with Jennifer Lewis on the plane. She
Speaker 1: comes up to me. I'm sitting there with my boyfriend,
Speaker 1: and she says, what the fund are you doing here
Speaker 1: with my man? Bitch? She said, look, you're not pulled
Speaker 1: the show up. You're not puposed to be trying to
Speaker 1: outshine me. Just fine up here with who do you
Speaker 1: think you are? Girl? Who do you think you are?
Speaker 1: A little girl? She was. It was the best thing.
Speaker 1: I wish I could have filmed it for y'all The
Speaker 1: whole damn time. I was like, this is too much
Speaker 1: to pull my phone out, But I wanted to pull
Speaker 1: my phone out so y'all could just hear the life
Speaker 1: that she was giving me. Did she know who she
Speaker 1: was talking to? Yes, that's the girl I know her from.
Speaker 1: We did Media's Family Reunion together. My god, when I
Speaker 1: was like twelve years Oh, wouldn't have any scenes together.
Speaker 1: But I've always loved Jennifer. I mean, Jennifer Lewis is
Speaker 1: somebody that she just always loves. You know. It's like,
Speaker 1: you know, she's just everything. I always loved her, and
Speaker 1: every time I've seen her always say hi whatever. So
Speaker 1: when she saw me on the plane, she was it
Speaker 1: was just like we hadn't seen each other in a while,
Speaker 1: and she was like a little bit fine ass man.
Speaker 1: I want to get your ass together. You should do
Speaker 1: the Jennifer Lewis story. You should do her a biopic.
Speaker 1: Me and her have to do something together, because she
Speaker 1: has just one. We just would be just back and
Speaker 1: forth and back and forth. It would just give too
Speaker 1: much life. No work would get done. But we should
Speaker 1: get the set together. It should all be captured. It
Speaker 1: should all be captured. I just had to ask, because
Speaker 1: I mean, she's a light in my life. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: FaceTime or later, actually I will. Okay, so now, but
Speaker 1: when is it time? It's time? It's time for I
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. This is our one minute segment
Speaker 1: at the end of our show where we each go
Speaker 1: on a tire rate about culture. Matt, you have something,
Speaker 1: I have something. I do have something, and you mentioned
Speaker 1: planes in mine is actually plane related. I've done a
Speaker 1: lot of flying recently, and everyone on any plane who's
Speaker 1: sitting in the window seat is about to hear it. Okay,
Speaker 1: here we go, this is Matt Rogers. I don't think
Speaker 1: so many this time starts now. I don't think so
Speaker 1: honey people in the windows seat who don't have their
Speaker 1: window up when you're landing on the plane. Sometimes I'll
Speaker 1: be on the aisle. I prefer the island. I don't
Speaker 1: think so hony of these people sitting at the window
Speaker 1: seat who keep their window down when we're touching down.
Speaker 1: I don't want to jump out of my skin. Like
Speaker 1: I said, I can't do scary, and what is scarier
Speaker 1: than the shock of landing suddenly nothing. I want to
Speaker 1: be able to see outside the plane so I can
Speaker 1: see exactly when the wheel touchdown, so whether I'm jolted
Speaker 1: up out of my sea flying through the skies. I
Speaker 1: don't think so hony of these people who are out
Speaker 1: of sight, out of mind. Lease a fair about sitting
Speaker 1: on the window seat and they have it all the
Speaker 1: way shut and I can't see a goddamn thing. I
Speaker 1: need to know when I'm in the land or else
Speaker 1: I will be screaming, and then I'll tell you what's
Speaker 1: even more annoying than a baby screaming on ault, me
Speaker 1: screaming on adult day flight from shocked pain, anger, discussed
Speaker 1: hurt betrayal because you did not turn your windows seconds.
Speaker 1: I love you dealt up, but mandate windows up for
Speaker 1: windows seats. I don't think so, honey. I'm totally fine
Speaker 1: with it if you want it shut for the duration
Speaker 1: of the plane, But when they say it's time to
Speaker 1: get the seat backs up in the trade tables set,
Speaker 1: you need to have the windows up to be courteous
Speaker 1: to people who just want to know what that shaking
Speaker 1: noises when they land and when it's coming. Surely you
Speaker 1: can see there's a window in a different row that
Speaker 1: you can get some context from, of course, bo. But
Speaker 1: we have to work to gather as a plan community,
Speaker 1: because if you if one person doesn't do it, the
Speaker 1: next person doesn't do it. Yeah, yeah, you're right. I
Speaker 1: just think there's still not an agreement about like people
Speaker 1: lowering the shade when you're midair when it's glaring blinding.
Speaker 1: I completely understand, all right, but are you with me
Speaker 1: on this? Like do don't you? Don't you agree? I agree?
Speaker 1: I'm rarely in the window seat I agree. There you go.
Speaker 1: We're all in agreement. We are all concurrent on this one.
Speaker 1: I'm not the one who's usually at the window anyway,
Speaker 1: so I have no control over us. Oh, and sometimes
Speaker 1: I want to be like, hey, can you put the
Speaker 1: window up because I just want to see when we land.
Speaker 1: But also I don't want to talk to anybody on
Speaker 1: the plane. Yeah, you never know what you might get. Alright, Well,
Speaker 1: food for thought. This is Bowen yangs. I don't think so, honey,
Speaker 1: at his time will begin now. I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: Baristas and TV shows, especially mystery shows such as Wednesday,
Speaker 1: where their trope is they go that girl her order,
Speaker 1: you know, tall Frappico, blah blah blah. It's like some
Speaker 1: bullshit like that where the barista knows everybody's order in
Speaker 1: the town. It's a tired ass trope. I'm done seeing it.
Speaker 1: In the movies and TV shows and plays of our time.
Speaker 1: The barista usually ends up being the killer or the
Speaker 1: conspirator of a killing or something. It's tired. It's done.
Speaker 1: I don't want to see any Burris stays as main
Speaker 1: characters and TV shows anymore. Make them something else, make
Speaker 1: them a sandwich artist. Make them a smoothie smoothie maker.
Speaker 1: I don't want to see barista anymore because guess what,
Speaker 1: it's too neat of a thing to be like, Oh,
Speaker 1: that's that's the person who knows everybody's deal in town. No,
Speaker 1: we need to be more creative about the town tropes,
Speaker 1: the citizen who knows everybody's business. We're gonna figure out
Speaker 1: something new because this motherfuckering Wednesday, I was like, this
Speaker 1: guy is a flop and his only redeeming qualities that
Speaker 1: he's the barista. You take that away from him as nothing,
Speaker 1: And that's one minute and change. And yes, it's not
Speaker 1: just baristas that know the town's business. Okay, what about
Speaker 1: the postman? Bring the postman back, Bring the postman back,
Speaker 1: bring the milkman and back. I want the milkman back,
Speaker 1: Bring the milkman back. I don't think so, honey. You
Speaker 1: want to rip up? Okay, here we go. Okay, this
Speaker 1: is cheek Palmers. I don't think so, honey. Your time
Speaker 1: starts now. Does every mundane action in our lives need
Speaker 1: to be a TikTok aesthetic? I don't think so, funny,
Speaker 1: I'm tired on my Twitter Instagram more TikTok and seeing
Speaker 1: people pretending to content create by putting on great cloads,
Speaker 1: shutting gray blinds, pulling out their great calculator and doing
Speaker 1: their taxes, calling it a dope life. I don't think
Speaker 1: so hard. I cannot stand that we are so incapable
Speaker 1: of randomness that we have whittled ourselves down to now
Speaker 1: lifestyle categories soft girl life, Um, you know a happy
Speaker 1: girl life, girl life, cool guy life, funck boy life.
Speaker 1: I just want us to have a life and to
Speaker 1: get offline and trying to make everything seems so cool
Speaker 1: and unique. I don't want to see you having a
Speaker 1: day of normalcy and then calling it some type of
Speaker 1: specific category and life down. I don't think so honey.
Speaker 1: I'm sick of it. Just actually do something and don't
Speaker 1: let us be involved when I don't want to see
Speaker 1: anybody else cooking their man any meals and calling themselves
Speaker 1: life life, life. I'm tired of the life lives and
Speaker 1: that's one minute has absolutely destroyed most influences today who
Speaker 1: put on an orange shirt and say hashtag orange shirt
Speaker 1: and they get dollars for it. I'm tired. It is
Speaker 1: like we saw this man the other day made himself breakfast,
Speaker 1: sat down on his computer, played with his dog, and said,
Speaker 1: soft black boy life. I'm like, what is so? What
Speaker 1: is a hard black boys life? Come on, like, come,
Speaker 1: this is a normal life, y'all always got to and
Speaker 1: actual it ends up making everything ends up making, Like
Speaker 1: if that's not an everyday person's life, then what do
Speaker 1: you think everyday black people are living? Like? You know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like if if you don't think it's
Speaker 1: just like what is it that we're doing? Y'all? We
Speaker 1: make it everything so extreme? Soft girl life? All you
Speaker 1: did was make breakfast and sit on your couch. So
Speaker 1: what's what's the hard girl's life going to work? Like?
Speaker 1: What is the opposite of everything that y'all saying? So interesting?
Speaker 1: If that's a soft girl life, a hard girl life
Speaker 1: is like going to park at the bank and parking
Speaker 1: like outside the lines and have two spaces. Hard girl
Speaker 1: Life's like that's honestly to me, it's like absolutely ridiculous.
Speaker 1: I gotta spoof coming for this. Oh there we go?
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Kiki Palmer and should I say baby
Speaker 1: Kiki Palmer? Because that is the podcast that you all
Speaker 1: must be listening to required reading. This has been so
Speaker 1: much fun. No, guys, this has been the most fun.
Speaker 1: I really love hanging out with y'all. Hang out with me.
Speaker 1: Called me back anytime. You know is your girl? Oh
Speaker 1: my god, you must return. We love you so much.
Speaker 1: And you told no lies when you said she was
Speaker 1: the greatest of the gates of the Gate. We closed
Speaker 1: every episode with the song I Got One Mount. Okay,
Speaker 1: come well, maybe blame me like a Vendo if I
Speaker 1: wind the back and my own Oh yeah, listen to
Speaker 1: Hands Free to Break my kickie Palmer here, come on,
Speaker 1: by bye.