1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: Hello, Texans, we are back, Mark Vandermain and John Harris 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:08,560 Speaker 1: with you. Let's do this as I love that new open. 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: I love names on the open. In the highlights, we 4 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: very often have these you know, so and so throws 5 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: the ball to so and so, not the script quarterback 6 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: throws the ball to non the script receiver and scores 7 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 1: a touchdown. But we decided, you know what, we've got 8 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: these young players, Let's go Mills, let's go Nicko. Let's 9 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: just do it. Let's just put them out there in 10 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: the universe. You mean twenty twenty one that, I mean, 11 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 1: all all the sounders for one highlights this season is 12 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 1: in that open. I'm just kidding. There were some moments though, 13 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:44,840 Speaker 1: and we wanted to express our pleasure with that because 14 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: it was a pleasure to see those guys do those 15 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 1: things in the Charger game, the Jaguar game. You know, 16 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: they had four winsday at some moments we thought we'd 17 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: highlight them. We move into twenty twenty two. Okay, let 18 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: me ask you a question. This is just I'm just 19 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: I'm just riffing, because that obviously is what we do 20 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: on radio. If you trade, would you trade a Chargers 21 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 1: win for a full comeback and win over the Titans 22 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 1: Week eighteen, would you trade maybe? Maybe? I mean you 23 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: talk about change the universe now, yeah, because the Chargers 24 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: might make the playoffs. After Chargers might make the playoffs. 25 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: After that, you also would have the Chiefs is the 26 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: number one seed? Well, I hate that though, but the 27 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 1: Titans would fall to like, I don't know if they 28 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: go to two. Maybe serious. Now that I know that 29 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: the Titans lost, I'm very happy about that because I'm 30 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: one of those bitter, shallow people as far as divisional opponents. 31 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 1: We all know that about me. And oh, we did 32 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 1: watch the super Bowl last night, Johnny a couple of 33 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: things about that, And we're gonna get to a lot 34 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: of things today, loving and Nick's to do list, a 35 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: little bit on the Senior Bowl. Who knows where we 36 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: go because this is the opening show of season eleven 37 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,919 Speaker 1: of Texans All Access. Yes, we started it ten years 38 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: ago twenty twelve with air and Foster are signing a contract. 39 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: That was the first episode of Toxins All Access with 40 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: the press conference and we had an airing on and 41 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: it was very cool. We used to do the show 42 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: Tuesday's noon to two back then. Now first after the 43 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. It's Monday through Friday, six to seven. We'll 44 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: be here every night with you and we're gonna have 45 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: a good time. By the way, tomorrow, Lovey Smith joins 46 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,679 Speaker 1: us exclusive conversation with the head coach now that he's 47 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: deep into his tenure as head coach at the Texans. 48 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: All right, a week ind but hey, he'll love some 49 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: more stuff to say, So I'm looking forward to that. 50 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, and the first four or five days 51 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: of being a head coach, I mean there are a 52 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: million things, yeah, happening, a million things, so you never know, 53 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,679 Speaker 1: maybe coach let something slip that he's not supposed to, 54 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: but maybe something slips, like he tells us an assistant coach, 55 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: because we're getting our information from you know, our sources 56 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: and people that cover this great sport, and we're well, 57 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: we can't. I mean, we could say sources say, you know, 58 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: the Texans will wait, as they typically do, wait till 59 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: the entire staff is named and then they will go 60 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 1: ahead and put it all out there. But which makes sense. 61 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 1: It plenty of changes play and changes, but I think 62 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: the biggest ones obviously love you taking over his head 63 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 1: coach and the Pep Hamilton stepping in as as OC 64 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: which is gonna be which gonna be pretty exciting, and 65 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: a lot of people at the end of the year 66 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:16,839 Speaker 1: we're thinking, man, Pep's gotta stay. We gotta we gotta 67 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: keep Pep. Pep's gotta be around. He did great work 68 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 1: with Davis Mills. As you point out earlier, you know 69 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: hearing mills name, and I know there's been a lot 70 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: of talk this this off season and throughout the end 71 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 1: of the season. We talked about it too. Is Davis 72 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 1: is he future? What is he? Let me look right now, 73 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: it's a starting quarterback. It's what he is. He's a 74 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: starting quarterback and he's looking to become the face of 75 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: the franchise. And hopefully he gets there. I mean, that 76 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: would be awesome to have a third round or that 77 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: ends up getting to that point of being the face 78 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: of the franchise. But it's a big year. He's got 79 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: an off season to train. Is enough to deal with 80 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: covid like he was dealing with it getting into the draft. 81 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: He's got a full off season to train. He's got 82 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: all his guys, they know him, he knows them. And 83 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: I said this, I think it may have been Texas Monday, 84 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: the last day, the Sunday that we played the Titans. 85 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: I'll never forget it, Milee. Collins, and I hope Blik 86 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: is able to come back to because of what he's 87 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: able to do for this team down into the trenches. 88 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: But I saw Milie Milik did a press conference and 89 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: he was walking back to the locker room and Davis 90 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: was coming out. Davis was coming over to do his 91 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 1: and Milik was going in and Molik stopped him. And 92 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: I couldn't hear what they were saying there across the hall. Well, 93 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 1: Malik just put his hand out and just shook his hand. 94 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: You can tell me you read body language. Yeah, you 95 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 1: could just see Malik saying you got this, like you 96 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 1: can do this, man. You He came a long way 97 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: and gaining the respect of veterans the way he played, 98 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: and I think Pep was a big part of that 99 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: for Davis Mills, and hopefully that just continues in that 100 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: relationship grows and grows with Pep Nzeoc. I would have 101 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 1: loved to see in that Titan game, if you could 102 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: have gotten the ball back, what Mills was gonna do. Yeah, 103 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: I'm not saying they win the game, but it would 104 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: have been nice to see. If he could have done it, 105 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:55,919 Speaker 1: you would have a chance to win the game. But 106 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: we'll talk a bunch about what's going on this offseason 107 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 1: so far. I love he spent the head coach to 108 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: the Houston Texans named one week ago super Bowl in 109 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 1: the books. A little bit on that here. As I'm 110 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: watching that game, I'm thinking, all right, gut reactions here, 111 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: Why don't you and I just share some of ours. 112 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: And I know that a lot of people have been 113 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: over this territory, the Super Bowl territory, but we have 114 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 1: some unique perspective and Texans perspective through some Texans lenses here. 115 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: All right, One thing I'm looking at here, Johnny, I'm 116 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: watching the Bengals play. What a remarkable postseason for them 117 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:30,559 Speaker 1: winning these games at the wire. I mean, the Raiders 118 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: could have beaten them, right, They could have lost any 119 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:34,919 Speaker 1: one of these games leading in and they happen to 120 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: lose the Super Bowl, and they could have won the 121 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. We all saw it. They could have would 122 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: have should have won the Super Bowl. They didn't win it. 123 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 1: But I was thinking, you could put any one, almost 124 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: any NFL playoff team in the game last night, and 125 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: they would have had a reasonable shot to beat the Rams. 126 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: And this is taking nothing away from the Bengals. I 127 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 1: think it just shows the parody of the league right now. 128 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, the Chiefs could have beaten the Rams 129 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 1: last night, the Titans if they had played their game, 130 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 1: you know, if Henry was sharpened up after Yeah, I mean, 131 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 1: they could have beaten the Rams. The Raiders, I would 132 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 1: think so. I mean, that probably would be my slimmest 133 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: chance of doing it. The Buffalo Bills. Are you kidding? 134 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: The Bills in the Chiefs of the Super Bowl favorites 135 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: heading into next year, already named A day later after 136 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: the Rams won the Super Bowl, I thought the Rams 137 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: would win the game by more than they did. I 138 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: was rooting for the Bengals all the way. I wanted 139 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: the Bengals to win that game, make no mistake, but 140 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: I thought the Rams would win. It was a lot 141 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: closer than I thought it would be. And Stafford with 142 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 1: the two picks, I know one was a deflection, but 143 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: one was ridiculous, that long heave and that kept the 144 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: Bengals in the game. That missed no call on the 145 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 1: OPI on the Bengals touchdown to open the third quarter 146 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 1: was horrible. I mean, they've got to catch that. And 147 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: I was happy about it because I want the Bengals 148 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: to win. But that was an awful missed call. And 149 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: then at the end of the game they're calling everything well, 150 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,799 Speaker 1: so it was inconsistent. Yes, they didn't call a lot, 151 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: but they missed a bad one at the end of 152 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 1: the game. At the end of the game, so the 153 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: ball was down inside the rims that gotten it down 154 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: outside the five, like five or six yard line, right 155 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: right somewhere now that range, and there is a clear 156 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: false start, I mean blatant false start to a point 157 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: where like, oh, they moved and I'm waiting for the 158 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: flag and I can't quite hear the broadcast, so I'm 159 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: thinking they're gonna stop. I'm listen for a whistle, but 160 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: I can't. I don't know, and so I they let 161 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: the play go. That's the one where there was holding 162 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: on Havenstein. Oh my god, and Cup got hit in 163 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: the end zone. There's a false start of that. I've 164 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: got to go watch it again. Oh, you gotta see it. 165 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: It's bad, I mean bad, bad, like obvious bad. And 166 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: they didn't blow the whistle, So if they blow the whistle, 167 00:07:55,600 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: and stop that play. Then they're now back get the 168 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: don't eleven? Yeah they'ret to six, yort to eleven, And 169 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: now it's that much more difficult because I'm trying to 170 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: think game management ish at the end, like, Okay, I mean, 171 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: you want to score, you really do want to score, 172 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: but you want to run some of this time off 173 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: because you're only gonna be able to go up a 174 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 1: fuel goal, right, so they're gonna have an opportunity to 175 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: gonna kick a field at a minimum to tie. So 176 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: it would be nice if you could burn something. But 177 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, there's a false start. You moved back, 178 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 1: didn't call it, so now you got the off setting. 179 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: They offset replay the down I can't remember happening a 180 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: second now, but not third down. Then Cup gets the 181 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: holding by Logan Wilson, which, by the way, it wasn't holding. 182 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: I think that's what screwed everybody. It wasn't holding. I 183 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: think it was DPI. Think I think it wasn't the 184 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: initial part where Cup crossed him. I think it was 185 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: when Cup crossed him and then Wilson came back over. 186 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 1: I think that's where I call it contact, call it DPI, whatever, 187 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: I feel like there's a penalty. I don't think it 188 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 1: was holding, and I think that was the tricky part 189 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: as they called that. But I gotta give it up 190 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: for Cooper Cup. Man. I thought he was absolutely tremendous 191 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: and he took a shot in the end zone. I 192 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 1: didn't know in a regular season game. I mean, somebody 193 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: calls down and says, hey, you gotta take him out 194 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: of the Yeah, you have to check him out. You 195 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: have to check him out, but it's a Super Bowl. 196 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:25,439 Speaker 1: He popped right back up after hit. I'll give him that. 197 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: He wasn't a little worse for wear, but he popped 198 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:29,199 Speaker 1: up and nobody took him out, and then he get 199 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: ends up making it catching against Eli Apple, who, by 200 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 1: the way, Eli Apple was kidding towardure my NFL players 201 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: on Twitter. Look, it's hard. It's hard to cover Cooper Cup, 202 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 1: you know, and you hear you are on the biggest stage, 203 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: everybody's watching, and you know, here's my problem with the approach. 204 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying I have a better way to 205 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: fix it, but man, I mean, you gotta put three 206 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: guys on Cooper Cup. At that point, there's no Odell 207 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 1: Beckham anymore, you know, Robert Woods has been out for 208 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 1: a couple of months or whatever it is. Where are 209 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: they going? Right? Scronic is not going to catch the 210 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 1: game winning touchdown on the Super Bowl, but he might. 211 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: I guess Cooper Cup is gonna be Stafford's guy. He 212 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: made up his mind I am going to Cooper Cup 213 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: and they weren't able to stop it. My thing about 214 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: p I calls is they have those orange gloves the Bengals. 215 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: You wrap that orange glove around a white uniform. They 216 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: see it on the APPS. You're just inviting, You're daring 217 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: the official to throw the flag. So if he throws it, 218 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,959 Speaker 1: don't be so surprised. That's my thought. So you say 219 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk without Senior Bowl, we are gonna talk 220 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: about SENIOROL twenty twenty two. But there were two guys 221 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 1: last night, and they're arguably two of the top five 222 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 1: players in the world right now that both showed it 223 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl. And you mentioned Cooper Cup. When 224 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: Cooper Cup went to the Senior Bowl at twenty seventeen, 225 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: I just remember there being all this talk about it. 226 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: Three time FCS All American and okay, he's FCS guy, 227 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: He's not one and all these d d one dbs. 228 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 1: They're like, oh, I'm on a piece of him. Oh 229 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 1: I look it at me me. It looks like a 230 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: surfer boy. And look at him. With Arren Cooper Cup 231 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: destroyed everybody. And he would he would get up on 232 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: a guy, he'd hot foot, he'd shake him, he'd be 233 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 1: wide open and do it every single time. And he'd 234 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:20,719 Speaker 1: take the ball. After he caught it, he'd run back 235 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: to the coach, he'd hand it to him. He get 236 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: back in line, and he just eight dudes lunch. And 237 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 1: it was like at first, dbs were like, no, I 238 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 1: got him this time, and then that guy would get whipped, 239 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: and then the next guy would go, no, I want 240 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 1: like everybody was. By day three he was like no, no, no, no, 241 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 1: we're good, We're good. Y'all got him. He ate them alive. 242 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 1: And it was amazing because that's what he's continued to 243 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 1: do with the rams. But my very first senior boat 244 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 1: was twenty fourteen and I happened to be down at 245 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 1: the old Stadium and lad Peeples and down in the 246 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: corner there's fencing and you know, just like chain chain 247 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: link fence, and I was standing there and I saw 248 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,959 Speaker 1: Art Ryles, who has been in the news about potentially 249 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: being the offensive coordinat here at Grambling for Hugh Jackson. Anyways, 250 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:05,559 Speaker 1: Art Browles is down there and I had gotten a 251 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 1: note Art a little bit so that when we would 252 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: see each other out we could hey, you know we 253 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 1: you know, facial recognition sort of thing. We sit and chatted, 254 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 1: so you know, I got a big time coach. I 255 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: want to get his thoughts. And so we're standing there, 256 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 1: and right as we're standing there, the defensive lineman come 257 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 1: running down from the other side. Stand next to Art. 258 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, aren't tell me about you guys, And 259 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: so he started to talk about Kendall Wright, the wide receiver, 260 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 1: talking about some other guys, talking about his quarterback. And 261 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 1: so right at that point they start one on once 262 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,959 Speaker 1: between the offensive linement and defensive linement, and he points 263 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 1: over at his guy, Cyril Richardson, and he goes and John, 264 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: I'm telling you that guy right there, that's top twenty five. 265 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 1: He is a first hunder and Mark, I'm telling you not. 266 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: As soon as those words came out of his mouth, 267 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald absolutely destroyed him, I mean destroyed him and 268 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 1: just took him and lifted him and put him back 269 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: into You know, the quarterback is always a coaches extent 270 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 1: of the quarterback. Donald just picked literally got underneath him, 271 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 1: picked him up, and Richardson is going backwards, and Coach 272 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: Bryle's standing there telling me he's a first rounder. He's 273 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:10,559 Speaker 1: gonna be a first rounder. And I remember thinking of 274 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: my mind, like, Coach, if that guy's a first rounder, 275 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: than Aaron Donald might be the best that ever lived. 276 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 1: And it's come out that Aaron Donald's pretty unclosed to 277 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: the best it's ever the d Mark. He did that 278 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: to everybody at the entire Senior Bowl that year. Everybody 279 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 1: didn't matter whether he went against Richardson, whether he went 280 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:33,359 Speaker 1: against other centers and guards. It's I was so conflicted 281 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 1: because I was like, is he that good or these 282 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,559 Speaker 1: guys that lousy? And so I leaned a little bit 283 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: more towards these guys are that lousy? But I realized, boy, 284 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 1: this guy's good. Well, a little bit later in the week, 285 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: I was up the Renaissance Hotel and he was walking 286 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: through the hotel. I was like, maybe from you to 287 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: me away, maybe five feet away. Well, he realized, oh 288 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: he forgot something. He turns around and He's looking me 289 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:56,439 Speaker 1: right in the eye, and Mark, I realized, oh that's 290 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald, Holy gow. He is six foot like he's 291 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 1: looking me right in the eyes, right in the eyes. 292 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: Was scared me one but two I realized short dude, 293 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 1: six foot two eighty five, low center of gravity, quick, nasty. 294 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: And when they shoved him last night on the sidelines, 295 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,319 Speaker 1: you saw the Pittsburgh come out on him. Yeah, all 296 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: of a sudden, the Oakland, the Oakland part of Pittsburgh 297 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: came out in him, and he just unleashed, just like 298 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: he did the Senior Bowl. It was every single rep, 299 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: no one could handle him. How nobody could nobody to 300 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: stop on third down? And the stop on fourth down 301 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 1: at that point, the single block him. Why at that point? 302 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: This is what I don't understand. This is where I think, 303 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: what do they think it? Johnny? I get nuts, I 304 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: get running and look, I hate criticizing play calling. Actually 305 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: I don't when it's the other team. But on third 306 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: and short, it's third and two, right, third and one, 307 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: and they smash it straightforward and he's just the one 308 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: arm just stops. Yeah, all right, and then fourth down 309 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: we all saw what happened. He whipped Burrow around. Burrow 310 00:14:57,560 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: flung the ball out there to pe Ryan. He wasn't 311 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: gonna die for it or whatever. He's got some heat 312 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: for that. But like easier said than done. I think 313 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: I don't think he thought Burro's gonna throw the ball. 314 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 1: I think he thought Burros gonna be down, And so 315 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: you never could react to it. I don't know. I 316 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: never saw a different angle from it to see, like, 317 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: I love to see another angle of that, but I 318 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: never showed it. Yeah, eighty five cameras in there or 319 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: whatever it is, they could show it, but don't you 320 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: have to. I didn't, and everybody in my living room 321 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: will verify that. I said this. I'm on the record 322 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: in my living room saying this. Johnny fourth down, I said, 323 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: I don't like the formation. I didn't. I didn't like it. 324 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: I didn't like it. I thought it looks I get 325 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: spreading him out. But when Aaron Donald is there, you know, 326 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: and the ball not only has to come out fast, 327 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: it's got to be gone like as soon as it 328 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: hits Burrow. Because Aaron Donald, you see how quick he is, 329 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: and he made that tremendous play. Look, it was an 330 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: entertaining game. I was pulling for the Bengals. That meme 331 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: is out there. It's a meme, it's a shot whatever 332 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: that if Burrow has a split second to throw, he 333 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: might be able to heap it long down the right 334 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: sideline for a winning touchdown. Who knows, didn't get the 335 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: chance because it was Chase. It was Chase on Ramsey. Yeah, 336 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: and Ramsey was making sure that he didn't complete the 337 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: short one. How about how entertaining these super Bowls are lately? 338 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: You know? And I heard Sean and Seth talking about 339 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: it last week. Kids. In the eighties, the Super Bowls 340 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: were terrible for the most part, Right, eighties and early nineties, 341 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: just awful blowouts every time, And you're wondering when are 342 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: we gonna get a good super Bowl. You had the 343 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: Bengals and the forty nine ers back in the day. 344 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: That was nice, the second one with Montana to John 345 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: Taylor Boomer assissin for the Bengals. But you had so 346 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: many Super Bowls that were just horrible blowouts. Now you 347 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:39,479 Speaker 1: have so many great close games, even the Rams Patriots. 348 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: All right, it was a low scoring game. At least 349 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 1: it was close, right, so you were going to go 350 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: to the refrigerator too much because you wanted to see 351 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: if somebody was going to blow it open or erupt 352 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: go on some kind of run there. So I liked 353 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: these Super Bowls halftime show. I thought was pretty good 354 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, you know, when I know all the 355 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: songs and a rap show, you know that they're big hits. 356 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 1: Those are mega hits. Man. I was thinking about you 357 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,439 Speaker 1: last night, like, I wonder what Mark thinks about this, 358 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 1: gonna like that. Look, they're all they're not young people 359 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: for the most part, okay, correct, I mean except for 360 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: Kendrick Lamar. You know, everybody's like, he's not like a 361 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:25,120 Speaker 1: twenty two year old. Look, it's the super Bowl halftime show. 362 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 1: They're not gonna go all right, straight out of South 363 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: Central with the new young artists, who's gonna rock the world. No, 364 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: these guys are staples. We've seen them in commercials, you know, 365 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: totally mainstream people last night with very humble beginnings, and 366 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:43,679 Speaker 1: I love I love what they did last night, and 367 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,479 Speaker 1: I love what they do business wise, Doctor dre snoop 368 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 1: all of them all right, and best commercial quickly before 369 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 1: we get on commercial is the best with the animation. 370 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:55,479 Speaker 1: The animation, I thought that was the best one, and 371 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I'd like to say I was a homer, 372 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: but I my focus group was my son. When the 373 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 1: que bouncing QR QR code came up, my son, who 374 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: is very literal about things, was like, they spent seven 375 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 1: million dollars on that, and so he was not impressed. 376 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: So I asked him after it was like, which was 377 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:19,479 Speaker 1: your favorite commercial? And he's not a football fan at all, 378 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: he goes, but he said that the NFL animated commercial 379 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: was my favorite, and I was mine too. I loved 380 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:27,719 Speaker 1: it. It It was great. Russ Russ Blacklock got a cameo 381 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 1: in that one. How about that? I know it was 382 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:32,439 Speaker 1: pretty cool. That was really cool, had a chuck vibe 383 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:35,360 Speaker 1: from it a little bit. It was real. It was okay, yeah, 384 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: now what about Sopranos? Oh, now you had to see 385 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,439 Speaker 1: the show and I didn't. I was paying attention, but 386 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 1: it kind of wasn't. I saw the jersey stuff, and 387 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 1: then I saw set with the what was it deli um, 388 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: I forget Cetra allities or something like that. I saw 389 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 1: that Papa and I was like, it's kind as a 390 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: Sopranos feel to it. And then when she gets out 391 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:56,719 Speaker 1: of the car and I realized weren't hearing the music. No, 392 00:18:56,760 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: I couldn't hear them, so I wasn't hearing I mean that, yeah, 393 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 1: of course I heard the music when I heard see 394 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 1: the Jersey scenes, and I'm thinking, here we go. This 395 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,479 Speaker 1: is awesome. Whatever it is, I am here for it. 396 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: I can't even tell you what. There's a commercial for it. 397 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: I think it was for a car. It was for 398 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:14,919 Speaker 1: a car, okay, another electric a lot of electric vehicle 399 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 1: advertising in the super Bowl. And then Meadow soprano real 400 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 1: name Jamie Lynn Siegler, her name was gets out and 401 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: I see her go to hugger guy and I'm like, oh, 402 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 1: then I dawn on me what it was. It's like, oh, 403 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: I recognize JJ. With the first cut they show a 404 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: quick cut of him, I'm like, oh, it's AJ and 405 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 1: she gets and her the smile on her face right 406 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 1: as they embrace was a very important cut, a very 407 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 1: important shot to show in the edit as they say 408 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: this car is for the new generation or a new generation, 409 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: and you're just thinking, this is beautiful. This is really 410 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:55,120 Speaker 1: great because we're so disappointed with that Sopranos finale, and 411 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 1: they revisit it and the kids are all right, and 412 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: you just feel great about the whole thing. If you're 413 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: a Sopranos fan. If you're not, you're like, what the 414 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: heck is this? I like the Barbie stuff. I'm not 415 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: gonna name all the products because we're not gonna do 416 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: that for them, but I think a lot of products 417 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,239 Speaker 1: services they think it's worth it because you sink so 418 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 1: much money into this and everyone talks about it like 419 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: we are now, and there's an extra impact to it. Well, 420 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 1: somebody said in our meeting today, whatever the bouncing cr 421 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 1: code was, no matter what my son Jack felt about 422 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: it and what I felt about it, I mean, you 423 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 1: can't help but just watch that thing. It crashed the website. 424 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: He crashed the website. That's pretty amazing. That's pretty incredible. 425 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: But they had that idea and it crashed the website. 426 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: But as far as just visually pleasing throughout the day, 427 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 1: it was. I thought it was good. I watched a 428 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 1: little a little bit of the pregame show. I thought 429 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: it was a lot like what they had done throughout 430 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: the year. I thought there were some blips and some 431 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 1: hiccups throughout the broadcast they put Mickey Guyden said, Mickey 432 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 1: Guyton had Genie Eikos, Genieikos American beautiful and they kind 433 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 1: of had that little player, but that mess up. I 434 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 1: thought there were some replays they should have shown that 435 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: they didn't show. Oh, yes, they waited. I was the one. 436 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: They waited until after the extra point to show a 437 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 1: touchdown replay. I can't remember which one, but that's rare 438 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 1: in the NFL. That's very collegiate. Ye, the replay after 439 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 1: the extra point, not before. And I was thinking, and 440 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: it wasn't like they were showing compelling shots. I'm thinking, 441 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 1: you gotta have that replay up instantly, like that last play, 442 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: that fourth and one when he throws the ball at 443 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: the p rhyn. Now, I will give them the fact 444 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 1: that there's a lot going out that point they're trying 445 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 1: to capture. I mean, you know, Aaron Donald, the Rams 446 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,719 Speaker 1: are celebrating, Yes, I like I can. All the cameras 447 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: are on celebration mode, and the replay machines are not 448 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: as focused on that play as they could have been. 449 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 1: But they would have been a good one to see 450 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: at some point. Yes, that would have been a good 451 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,719 Speaker 1: one to see how close did that ball to get 452 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: to p rhyme Because from the side. It looked like, 453 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 1: Oh I was claw. I don't. I don't know ultimately 454 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: how close it was, but it was an interesting game 455 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 1: to talk about just from NeXT's no standpoint, because the 456 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: Rams kept running the damn ball and had no business 457 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 1: doing it. The Bengals kept shutting it down. What would 458 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 1: you do if you're McVeigh. You're not gonna trust Stafford 459 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:21,120 Speaker 1: on every throw. You just can't. You can't. He threw 460 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 1: that bad pick in the first half. I mean there 461 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: was that deflected one right after the Bengals took the lead. 462 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 1: And the Bengals, look, they got a three out of it, 463 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: would have been nice for them to get a seven 464 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: out of it. That to me, was the biggest part 465 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 1: of the game. When it's they're down three going and 466 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 1: a half, they get the touchdown to take the lead 467 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: on Higgins, then they get the turnover and it's like, 468 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 1: put the nail in these guys right now, they're struggling offensively. 469 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: You go up ten, you could forget about it, but 470 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 1: they don't that to set up for the fuel goal 471 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 1: and only go up seven, And that to me was 472 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 1: a killer because the Rams gona the Rams gonna score 473 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 1: twice on you. The way your defense was playing, I 474 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: really put the pressure on him and they start to 475 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 1: tighten up. Maybe maybe you hope for that. I just 476 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 1: think the way the Bengals stopped the running against the 477 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,919 Speaker 1: Titans and a pretty decent Jean the Chiefs are, the 478 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: Chiefs are are tough to compare it because the Chiefs 479 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: aren't really gonna run the ball. I mean they did 480 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: with Mahomes, but in the second half the Bengals pretty 481 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: much shut him down. But the Rams did nothing. I mean, 482 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 1: Reader and BJ Hill and those guys up front, just 483 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: eight things alive, eight alive. And it just showed how 484 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 1: just those editions of Reader and BJ Hill, drafting Logan Wilson, 485 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: drafting Jermaine Pratt, the other players they brought in, the 486 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 1: way the Bengals built that defense is just really it's 487 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 1: really interesting because they spent a lot of money on Reader, 488 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 1: they spent a lot of money on Trading Hendricks, and 489 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: they spent not a lot of money on Mike Hilton 490 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: or Nickel, and those three guys were massively, massively important. 491 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,360 Speaker 1: But they drafted Jesse Bates in the second round, which 492 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 1: is big, and then they took kind of a cast 493 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: off in some sense, Woozier number twenty two, who with 494 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 1: the Cowboys really didn't stick. He gets the Cincinnati and 495 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 1: it fits. Handing love is a great year, and so 496 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,400 Speaker 1: mix of draft and freed and they got that. Would 497 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,159 Speaker 1: you pick up to go back? Though? Man? You know 498 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 1: you know how hard that is? It is so hard, 499 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,199 Speaker 1: and we'll get to AFC. THEFC is really hard. A 500 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,880 Speaker 1: couple of other things about this game or aspects of it. 501 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: Why I was rooting against the Rams. It's not that 502 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 1: I don't like the Rams, although I don't. I don't 503 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,439 Speaker 1: like anybody, Okay, except the people who play in this building. 504 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 1: That's just how I am. That you give me your 505 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 1: repeat scenario and Lovey and Nick's to do list. We 506 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: gotta get the senior bolt. We might have to continue 507 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: this tomorrow, but we're gonna continue in next here on 508 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 1: Texans Radio. Mark Vandermann, John Harris with you Texans All Access. 509 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:51,479 Speaker 1: Great to have you with us for another season of 510 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: Texans All Access. Monday through Friday, six to seven pm. 511 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 1: Tune in every night. We'll be at the combine and 512 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: what is it, Johnny? Two weeks? Two weeks weeks still 513 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 1: Combine shows and I'm looking forward to catching up with 514 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 1: all our peeps around the league and talk about what's 515 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: happening this offseason. All right, so happening this offseason may 516 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,439 Speaker 1: or may not include more players wanting to go to 517 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 1: other teams but they are currently under contractor Ray currently 518 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 1: under contract. Well, one thing I didn't like about this 519 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 1: Super Bowl and the Rams winning it. I don't like 520 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 1: the whole dream team thing and players trying to broker 521 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: their way out. Now, I wouldn't know anything about it. 522 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 1: I'm not even talking about a particular situation close to home. 523 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: Yeah I'm not. I'm really not. But and I don't 524 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 1: behoove somebody from wanting to work in a certain place, right, 525 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 1: But the whole Stafford thing it. I have nothing personally 526 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 1: against Matt Stafford, and they traded for him, fair and 527 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 1: square and all of that. But I always felt like 528 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: he was anointed this. He's one of the best quarterbacks 529 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 1: in the league. It's the Lions stink. I'm like, Well, 530 00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 1: the Lions haven't always had this stinky performs. Okay, They've 531 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 1: had some winning seasons, they've been to some postseasons, and 532 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: you don't pin at all on the quarterback, of course, 533 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: but you don't completely exonerate him either. For twelve years 534 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: in Detroit and no playoff victories and only four winning seasons, 535 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 1: I cannot completely let him off the hook for that. 536 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,919 Speaker 1: If he's that good, they should be better now. He's 537 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,439 Speaker 1: a good quarterback, and it made the difference for the Rams. 538 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 1: There was that good meme though, which was the Leo 539 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:31,439 Speaker 1: DiCaprio with the drink pointing to the TV. Yeah, yeah, 540 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:35,479 Speaker 1: and it's and it's Jared Goff watching TV seeing Matthew 541 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: Stafford throw two picks in the Super Bowl, right, And 542 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: I thought that was a great meme. But your thoughts 543 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,120 Speaker 1: on that kind of thing. I agree with you about 544 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: Stafford thing. I know, I know Drey. If Drey were here, 545 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: he would say, I told y'all, and and he's right. 546 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford is extremely talented, dude. Smart. The arm, the 547 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 1: arm is incredible. I mean, he's he had, but he 548 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,159 Speaker 1: had a support system around him this year. That was 549 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 1: I mean five ten times where he had Detroit. I mean, look, 550 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 1: he had Megatron at times, and they had Sue on defense. 551 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 1: They had some high level talent. They just didn't have 552 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:16,439 Speaker 1: it across the board the Rams. I mean, if you 553 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: think about the Rams to defense. Maybe right, single name 554 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 1: guys like Vaughan A. D. H. J. Ramsey. I mean 555 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 1: guys that are our first name, Like when you just 556 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 1: to say their first name, Odell, like you know exactly 557 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,120 Speaker 1: what we're talking about, right, I mean, but they got 558 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 1: they I mean Andrew Whitworth, I mean he's forty. I 559 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,919 Speaker 1: will say this about the Rams offensive line. I was 560 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 1: a little bit surprised the Rams had such trouble trying 561 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 1: to block the Bengals. The Rams offensive line. I never 562 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 1: thought the Rams offensive line was great, but I thought 563 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 1: it was good enough. Man, last night it was it 564 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 1: was not good. But yeah, you lose Odell Beckham Junior 565 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: and and both Michaels and and Consort. They're saying, oh 566 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:04,679 Speaker 1: my god, what are they gonna do? What they gonna do? 567 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 1: Behams out like throw out to the best receiver in 568 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 1: the league. Yeah, is something hard? Hard It would have been. 569 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 1: It would have been way more of a problem for 570 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: them if Cup had gone versus beccam right, they were exactly. 571 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,160 Speaker 1: No one thought, oh, they're gonna be fine necessarily, but 572 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 1: you cannot lose Cooper Cup. And I would have lost 573 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,879 Speaker 1: my mind if they made Stafford the MVP last night. Yes, 574 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 1: it had to be Cup or Aaron Donald. It could 575 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: not be Stafford last night. Not that he played badly, 576 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: he didn't deserve the MVP. The MVP was Cup or 577 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald because of those last two defensive plays he made, 578 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: which were ridiculously good. I mean, just that just put 579 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: the brakes on the Bengals. You know, when they got 580 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 1: that first pass to Ramsey on their final drive, I thought, Okay, 581 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: here we go. Yeah, we're at least getting into field 582 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 1: goal range? Here are we not? And they couldn't do that. 583 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 1: This is the one thing I thought about later on. 584 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 1: It's copycat league, right, I mean, we're gonna spend do we. 585 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 1: NFL teams are gonna spend a lot of time looking 586 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: for the next Deebo Samuel. They're gonna be looking for 587 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 1: the next Tyreek Hill, Um, you know who else was 588 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 1: successful this year? Or they're gonna trying to find the 589 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 1: next George Kittle. They're gonna find Oh, who's the next 590 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: Cooper cup Um? You know, oh man, can we find it? 591 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 1: Jamar Chase, I think I think some of those guys 592 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 1: are in different categories. No, I know, you're all the 593 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 1: same one. They're not like trying to find it. Next, 594 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel is gonna be like you forget that, I 595 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: mean Debos, I mean Debo didn't even Deebo Samuel didn't 596 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 1: even know he's a Deebo Samuel. But I think they're 597 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 1: I'm not saying there are a lot of those guys either, 598 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 1: but I'm saying that is the copycat aspect of this. 599 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 1: I mean, because the Rams just have great players, right, 600 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 1: But what I'm getting at is, how did the Rams 601 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 1: get all those great players? Well, some of them joined 602 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 1: the team late. They play home grown, right right, they 603 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 1: claimed ov J. They traded a second. Now, this is 604 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 1: gonna be tricky. They traded a second and a third, 605 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 1: a second and a third. This leads me. Now, I 606 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 1: know what I'll say today, they have any picks ever, 607 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 1: after what they gave up for staff, they traded a 608 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 1: second and a third for von Miller, who's an understrict 609 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 1: free agent at the end of the year. Right now, 610 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 1: well worked. That's why I'm gonna If the Rams don't 611 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl, they get skewered for that, but 612 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: I want a super Bowl. It's all good. Yeah. So 613 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 1: if we did that and we want a super Bowl 614 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 1: and be like, yeah, second and third poll. I think, look, 615 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that Bill O'Brien automatically thought they were 616 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 1: gonna go to the super Bowl in nineteen and maybe 617 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 1: that's not why he did it anyway, with the Laramie 618 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 1: deal and all of that. But you know, you bring 619 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 1: in Laramie for the investment they made, You're thinking, okay, 620 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 1: we're rolling here, let's go, let's go, And there they 621 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 1: were twenty four to nothing. Geez, did I bring that 622 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 1: on the opening show of the season? Why why you're 623 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 1: bringing me down? Well because, Johnny, but finish your point was, 624 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 1: and you gotta mention it with Laramie is how many 625 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 1: teams will will? I don't say, look at the Rams 626 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 1: method and go, Okay, the Rams were in a spot 627 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 1: where that could work for them, but are there gonna 628 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 1: be some teams that are gonna be in that spot? 629 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 1: Going all right? Bleep? It didn't? Didn't the Cardinals kind 630 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 1: of kind of do that arts Yeah, why and what 631 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,239 Speaker 1: to get him? It got him and it got him 632 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 1: an angry quarterback, you know, a bounced a bounced out 633 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 1: first round, awful looking game at LA. So they got 634 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 1: the Cardinals have got some things to do they got, 635 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 1: they got an offseason to trying to make a quarterback. 636 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 1: Is a lot of drama coming. Everyone's talking about Aaron Rodgers, 637 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson sitting down next to the commissioner during the game, 638 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 1: and where's Russell Wilson going? And there are a lot 639 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 1: of potential destinations there and we might have something growing here. 640 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 1: You never know, so uh, a lot of drama there. 641 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 1: But yeah, I just think that teams that are, you know, 642 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 1: pushing their chips to the center of the table. Look, 643 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 1: it worked out for the Rams. I don't know if 644 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 1: the Titans, you know, they look at being the number 645 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 1: one seed and what happened. Are they thinking we got 646 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 1: to make some kind of gigantic move at the most 647 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 1: important position at the team or we're good? I know 648 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 1: what they've said, but it has to be a discussion 649 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 1: at some point. And then you got the Colts with 650 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 1: that same position. Well with Wentz, obviously he's got to 651 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 1: be going somewhere, but what are you gonna get for him? 652 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: And who are you gonna get to replace him? Easier 653 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 1: said than done to get somebody really great. Yeah, and 654 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 1: they don't have a first round pick this year because 655 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 1: that went for Wentz. So, if you're gonna, if you're 656 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 1: gonna try and get in this, you know, Aaron Rodgers 657 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 1: sweepstakes if there is one, if you're gonna try and 658 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 1: get in this Russell Wilson sweepstakes if there is one, 659 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 1: to go get a quarterback. So I'm gonna ask you 660 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 1: the question. Effort, Landry and John talk about this. Chris 661 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 1: Bower picks up the phone and I heard that too. 662 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 1: There's no way that's a deal. Offer me everything, offer 663 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 1: me your next ten drafts. All right, I can't go there, 664 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: but let's just presume it would be a really attractive 665 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: or the most attractive offer. There's no way in the division, 666 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 1: no shot, no chance. I know there have been division 667 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 1: trades before, like Wes Welker going from the Dolphins to 668 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 1: the Patriots. Oh, he's never gonna turn. Oh wait a minute, 669 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 1: look and well Welker was pretty good in Miami with 670 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 1: Dante Colepepper thrown on the ball and he went for 671 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 1: a two and a seven, I think to the Patriots, Yeah, 672 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 1: and look what happened there. There is no shot I 673 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 1: am doing this a quarterback trade. Can you remember a 674 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 1: quarterback trade in the division? I can remember a quarterback 675 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 1: leaving a place. Actually bledso Bledsoe went to the Bills. 676 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 1: Donovan McNabb went from the Eagles to the fourteam formerly 677 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 1: known as the Redskins. Right, but I don't know if 678 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 1: that was a trade though, She's a lot has happened 679 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 1: since we left. I mean bledso I mean Bledsoe was 680 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 1: still in his prime. So yeah, and he goes to 681 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: and he goes to Buffalo. They're like, we got Tom Brady, 682 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 1: We're good. And he goes to It's it's crazy to 683 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 1: think about I I'm with you. I lean that way, 684 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 1: but man, you get to the point where you're like, 685 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 1: what if it's the only what if the only best 686 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 1: deal you get. I'm gonna say this, if that is 687 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 1: a great offer, there will be others. There's no chance 688 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,400 Speaker 1: that that's going to be the only one. Who scares 689 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 1: you more going to Indiapolis. We'll leave the shot out 690 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,959 Speaker 1: of this. Who scares you more going to Indiapolis? Aaron 691 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,839 Speaker 1: Rodgers and Russell Wilson because Rogers we know how great 692 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 1: he is. But for how long is he gonna do it? 693 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,319 Speaker 1: Wilson's gonna do it for longer? I don't know. Does 694 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 1: Wilson really do it for that much longer. He will 695 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 1: do it longer, but that much longer A lot to 696 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 1: go over here. Okay, So a week ago, my blood 697 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 1: pressure went down. I was calmed. I was put in 698 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 1: a state of football relaxation and zen, which I don't 699 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 1: even really know what it means. But let's talk about 700 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 1: that next here on Texans All Access. All right, Mark 701 00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 1: vandermaron John Harris with you Texans Radio made voyage for 702 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty two season of Texans All Access. We'll 703 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 1: be with you Monday through Friday, six to seven pm. 704 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 1: All right. So, a week ago Johnny Lovey Smith named 705 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 1: head coach at the Texans, and I just felt as 706 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 1: I heard him speak at the podium, my football blood 707 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:20,959 Speaker 1: pressure went down. I was calmed. I was just put 708 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 1: in a relaxed state of confidence, of optimism, hope, not 709 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 1: that I didn't have it before. Look, I really felt 710 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 1: like this was going to be a good offseason for 711 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 1: this team. A lot of good moves being made, some 712 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:37,439 Speaker 1: nice foundation laying pieces in twenty twenty one, and we'd 713 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,400 Speaker 1: we'd see the development of these guys and other aspects 714 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 1: of the organization. But there's something about Lovey. He's coached 715 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 1: a long time in this league. He's been in some 716 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,239 Speaker 1: big games. I know the record isn't perfect all right, 717 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,240 Speaker 1: but he's been there. He's been on the big stage 718 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 1: before that stage we saw last night, he's been there. 719 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,319 Speaker 1: I know I didn't win the game, but he's been 720 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,320 Speaker 1: there and that means something in the National Football League. 721 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 1: And I think he's good to go. A lot of 722 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 1: energies and outstanding physical shape. I am eager to see 723 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 1: what Lovey Smith does as the mentor of the Houston Texans. 724 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:12,840 Speaker 1: I am with you. We've talked about this on the 725 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 1: podcast a few times. I felt the same way. There's 726 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 1: a lot of confidence and seeing him go, seeing him 727 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 1: walk up to the stage and sitting and you were 728 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:25,319 Speaker 1: talking at the podium while Nick and Lovey were up 729 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:26,880 Speaker 1: on the stage, and then you threw it over to 730 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 1: Nick and they made opening statements and then they started 731 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 1: talking about Yeah, of course the fire alarm ran off 732 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 1: and kind of create a little bit of care. Nick 733 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:40,320 Speaker 1: and Lovey handled that as well as humans possibly could 734 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 1: have been losing my mind. I would have been losing 735 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 1: my mind. Look, we've done shows through all kinds of stuff. 736 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,439 Speaker 1: We've been in closets and Denver. We've been god knows 737 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,399 Speaker 1: where doing shows on the middle of people, and I mean, 738 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,759 Speaker 1: you know, we wunded with people hanging on tops off 739 00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 1: the rafters and and yeah, bangers in mask and it's 740 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 1: front of us. It's disruptive, but the fire alarm may 741 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:06,719 Speaker 1: may have taken the cake. But but then with you, 742 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:08,880 Speaker 1: I had that same had that same sort of feeling. 743 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,440 Speaker 1: And then along with all that was kind of a 744 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 1: it's kind of like a mini tightal wave of stuff. 745 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 1: It was love. He's being named a head coach, frank'stang 746 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 1: as a special teams coordinator, and Pep's coming on and 747 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 1: gonna be promoted to be the offensive coordinator. I kind 748 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 1: of felt like, oh, damn man, Okay, all right, I 749 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:30,239 Speaker 1: like how these puzzle pieces are coming together now I 750 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,799 Speaker 1: don't I didn't want to see our guy Bobby King 751 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,480 Speaker 1: go elsewhere. I definitely did not want to see James 752 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,880 Speaker 1: Camping go elsewhere. But that's live in the NFL. No 753 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:39,879 Speaker 1: matter whether you're changing the head coaches or not, there's 754 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 1: always two three coaches that are moving on for for 755 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 1: whatever reason, and so there's gonna be changed. But the 756 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 1: fact that love you taking over and Pep stepping up 757 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,759 Speaker 1: being the offensive coordinator. With Frank as a special team's quarder, 758 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:57,480 Speaker 1: Frank Ross is gonna be a head coach someday when 759 00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 1: Frank wants to be a head coach and he feels 760 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:01,360 Speaker 1: the time time is right. Not a lot of special 761 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,799 Speaker 1: teams coaches coordinators are getting opportunities. Joe Judge got one, 762 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 1: but you know, Dave Talbot from the Chiefs should have 763 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 1: had an opportunity and maybe still will get one down 764 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 1: the road. But I think Frank Ross is gonna be 765 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 1: a heck of a head football coach when he gets 766 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 1: an opportunity. He's been a really good special teams coordinator. 767 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 1: He's one of my he's one of my most fun 768 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:22,320 Speaker 1: guys to talk to just about about anything. So that 769 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 1: sort of it's I don't want to say continuity because 770 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,840 Speaker 1: it's not really continuity because head coach is different and 771 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:32,040 Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator is different, but yet there's still continuity there. 772 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 1: And with Lovey having been there, done that sort of thing, 773 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:40,239 Speaker 1: stepping in and feeling great pride and being the Texans 774 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 1: head coach as a Texan, Oh, that was pretty cool too. 775 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 1: But now it's time we get to work, like Okay, 776 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:49,239 Speaker 1: all the pop and circumstance and the press conferences and 777 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 1: all that. All right, staffed together, then you on's staffs together. 778 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,560 Speaker 1: Then you're moving on to what are the improvements do 779 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,080 Speaker 1: we have to make into building? What else do we 780 00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,479 Speaker 1: have to do infrastructure wise? And then it's we build 781 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 1: this thing for twenty twenty two and beyond. So what 782 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,319 Speaker 1: do we got free agency? What are we looking at? 783 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,479 Speaker 1: What players can we retain? What players are we gonna 784 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:10,719 Speaker 1: have to then fill where's our biggest void going to be? 785 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 1: Have to continue obviously to work the phones on the 786 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,440 Speaker 1: whole the Shawn situation, what's going to happen there? And 787 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,759 Speaker 1: then getting it down to the draft, where I think 788 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 1: the nuts and bolts of this organization on the field 789 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 1: going forward is going to be found. I don't know 790 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:27,759 Speaker 1: if Nick is going to tell us this or love you. 791 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,440 Speaker 1: We'll ask Lovey this tomorrow. I mean, I'm sure Nick 792 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,440 Speaker 1: would say something about it. But to what degree did 793 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,600 Speaker 1: they talk about some of the defensive players they brought 794 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,120 Speaker 1: in last year? Right, Guys who are around the league, 795 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 1: who had promise, like a Comu Gruge, a Hill obviously 796 00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:46,120 Speaker 1: Malique Collins, guys who had film out there, and I 797 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,800 Speaker 1: want to know what the collaboration was like and what 798 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:52,279 Speaker 1: it will be like moving forward, because obviously this is 799 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,520 Speaker 1: Nick's baby as far as player acquisition goes. But I'm 800 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,239 Speaker 1: wondering what kind of input the head coach is going 801 00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,520 Speaker 1: to have because it's a diff situation now, and you're right, 802 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:03,520 Speaker 1: he has been here a year and he's seen the guys. 803 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 1: And the other factor is who do you retain? Who 804 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:11,000 Speaker 1: do you make substantial offers to remain Houston Texans. Guys 805 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,359 Speaker 1: who are about to hit the market here might want 806 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,759 Speaker 1: to test the market, or maybe you can say, look, 807 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:17,719 Speaker 1: we'll pay you X and you're gonna stay here. Who 808 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:19,240 Speaker 1: knows how it plays out. There a lot of different 809 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,840 Speaker 1: ways that could go, but I'm excited to see it. 810 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 1: It was great to see him get the gig and 811 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,879 Speaker 1: move forward this way. Davis Mills. A lot of talk 812 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:32,359 Speaker 1: about him, Like you said earlier, Johnny, you put it, well, 813 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 1: he's the starter. No one's saying, look, he's gonna play 814 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,960 Speaker 1: here for fifteen years, he's got tenure already, He's guaranteed 815 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 1: to be the starter. Nobody's saying that. He's the guy 816 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,680 Speaker 1: in the driver's seat right now, and he'll have an 817 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:45,759 Speaker 1: opportunity to prove himself and that's all you want to 818 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:50,920 Speaker 1: see right now. Yeah. Absolutely, And with this whole coaching search, 819 00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:54,640 Speaker 1: it was a it was a really interesting study in 820 00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,520 Speaker 1: human dynamics and just watching people react to certain things 821 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,440 Speaker 1: and what they what they believed in, and what they 822 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:04,680 Speaker 1: do believe in. What should be a head coach, what 823 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,480 Speaker 1: shouldn't all that kind of stuff. And obviously Josh McCown's 824 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,200 Speaker 1: name gets gets brought up in and I don't know 825 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,160 Speaker 1: if Josh McCown will be here. I've said I said 826 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:12,640 Speaker 1: this to you. I said on the air, I think 827 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,239 Speaker 1: two three years ago that I wanted Josh McCown to 828 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,439 Speaker 1: be part of this organization some way, shape or form. 829 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,480 Speaker 1: And maybe that comes to fruitione maybe not, but I 830 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,480 Speaker 1: feel like, what's in place, it's time to rock now, 831 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 1: let's go. Yeah, let's go. Not to say that, you know, 832 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,040 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one was some throwaway year. In fact, I 833 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,640 Speaker 1: think we're gonna look back at twenty twenty one and think, Okay, 834 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:37,320 Speaker 1: that's when a rocky ship hopefully found some stability. And 835 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:41,960 Speaker 1: over the next few years, not only was stability the norm, 836 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,960 Speaker 1: there was more greatness added on top of that and 837 00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,239 Speaker 1: got the team back to where we want it to 838 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,840 Speaker 1: be like it was in twenty eleven, twenty twelve, you know, 839 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,600 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, that now it gets to the 840 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,239 Speaker 1: point where it's stable for so many years that you 841 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,120 Speaker 1: just get back in the mix and back in the mix. 842 00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:59,919 Speaker 1: But I'll say this though, in the AFC, oh boy, 843 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:04,640 Speaker 1: it's tough. It's tough these quarterbacks in this in this conference. Wow. 844 00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,879 Speaker 1: How about what Nick said though during last year, even 845 00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:11,720 Speaker 1: before last year, about process, about this year's about getting 846 00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 1: the organization going, getting a flow. These are my words, 847 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,920 Speaker 1: not his. Now but you did all that, and like 848 00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,440 Speaker 1: you said, not all the faces are the same. But 849 00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,680 Speaker 1: you still love Lovey here, and we always felt that 850 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:25,920 Speaker 1: way about Lovey the defensive coordinator. Hey, you have a 851 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,600 Speaker 1: head coach in the building right there. You still have Romeo, right, 852 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:34,040 Speaker 1: Romeo was here last year as a senior advisor. I 853 00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,600 Speaker 1: got smart people in the building. Yeah, you got experienced people. 854 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,920 Speaker 1: You got good brains here to draw from. Yes, absolutely, 855 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,279 Speaker 1: all right, that's gonna do it for tonight show. Great 856 00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:46,000 Speaker 1: to have you listening. Texans All Access Monday through Friday, 857 00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:49,359 Speaker 1: six to seven pm. Tomorrow night. Lovey Smith joins US 858 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:53,080 Speaker 1: opening segment be here, have a great night everyone, and 859 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:54,120 Speaker 1: go Texans.