WEBVTT - Rory & Mal Don't Know Ball | LeSean McCoy

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<v Speaker 4>All right, Rory, We're back for another episode of Rory

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<v Speaker 4>mal Don't Know Ball.

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<v Speaker 3>The one I was excited the most about. Yeah, this

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<v Speaker 3>is a this is one.

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<v Speaker 4>This is one of the guests that we was looking

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<v Speaker 4>forward to, been wanting to talk on in for a

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<v Speaker 4>while now.

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<v Speaker 3>Been a big fan of this guy.

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<v Speaker 4>So he's here to day to com and give us

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<v Speaker 4>more of an insight on ball where we need it.

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<v Speaker 3>We need all of our ballplayer buck this intro. I

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<v Speaker 3>know we try to talk about sports on this Let's

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<v Speaker 3>to the motherfucking mess we are you've been doing on

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<v Speaker 3>the timeline the last forty eight hours. You start, you

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<v Speaker 3>start in trouble man, usually trying to talk about sports. Nah,

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<v Speaker 3>what's going on? Man? What's up with this?

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<v Speaker 2>Ryan?

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<v Speaker 3>Ryan Clark RG three thing?

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<v Speaker 2>Man?

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<v Speaker 3>What's going on? Man? You're up there with one of

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<v Speaker 3>my favorite tweeters of all time.

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<v Speaker 5>Nah, I mean to be honest right, I'm not like

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<v Speaker 5>a real uh like social media type of savvy dude

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<v Speaker 5>like that.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'll be noticing, like you'll see players in the

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<v Speaker 2>media or not in the media, and like it's something

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<v Speaker 2>going on.

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<v Speaker 5>They can't wait to jump on it to get a

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<v Speaker 5>reaction for people. The same dudes that like, they'll say

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<v Speaker 5>something right and then they're looking.

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<v Speaker 2>At the views and the likes every fifteen minutes.

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<v Speaker 5>I never was like that. I always is organic. I

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<v Speaker 5>see someone I don't like, I speak on it. So

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<v Speaker 5>when I watch these two dudes, I'm like, yo, you

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<v Speaker 5>got the same guy, you know what I mean. It's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>one dude is probably a little more cornier than the

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<v Speaker 5>other one, but that's just say it's the same conversation.

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<v Speaker 3>Like the same Can you give our listeners some backstory

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<v Speaker 3>of what it is happening on the sun Line? So

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<v Speaker 3>we said, I want to get right to it.

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<v Speaker 4>So so Ryan Clark, he was being outspoken about the

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<v Speaker 4>whole uh RG three take on the whole injuries Caitlin

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<v Speaker 4>Clark situation. At a lot of people have turned it

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<v Speaker 4>into something, you know, it's like racial and things of

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<v Speaker 4>that nature. Uh So Ryan Clark had something to say

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<v Speaker 4>to RG three and uh Lashawn had something to say

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<v Speaker 4>to both of those gentlemen today, he tweeted. He didn't

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<v Speaker 4>say no names, but he just kind of alluded to

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<v Speaker 4>two guys that were having a back and forth.

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<v Speaker 3>And just respect to all parties. But how did RG

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<v Speaker 3>three and Ryan Clark start beefing about Angeury?

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<v Speaker 5>So so so RG three is the type of dude

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<v Speaker 5>anytime it's something going on, like, oh, I'm gonna jump

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<v Speaker 5>on and try to get some views out of it.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of people like that.

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<v Speaker 4>Bro, Yah, y'all have that's that's that's that's that's that's

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<v Speaker 4>the nature.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, right.

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<v Speaker 5>So I think a lot of times when dudes don't

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<v Speaker 5>really have no real like legacy or story to really

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<v Speaker 5>talk about or who they are, they run to.

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<v Speaker 2>That type of stuff and some of it works. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not mad at it anyway.

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<v Speaker 5>He's making like, Okay, you know the Kaitlyn Clark and injuries. Now,

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<v Speaker 5>everybody know it's some tension here obviously, right, And in

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<v Speaker 5>all sports you need a racial component to blow up

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<v Speaker 5>the sport, like, let's just be honest basketball, the.

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<v Speaker 3>Same way Magic and Bird was kind of that, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>come on, man, I mean Jackie Robinson I think was yeah, But.

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<v Speaker 2>You look at like Caitlin Clark.

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<v Speaker 5>I think she's a phenomenal player and and respectfully, I

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<v Speaker 5>don't think that her and Auries are on the same

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<v Speaker 5>level basketball wise, but injuries, he holds her own and

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<v Speaker 5>she's good in her own, right. I just think that,

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<v Speaker 5>like it is a race component, and and you look

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<v Speaker 5>at the w n b A, like, there's bet there

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<v Speaker 5>was better girls before Caitlyn Clark, and there was better

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<v Speaker 5>girls before injuries. When you have two league girls in

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<v Speaker 5>college and they have the race component, it makes everybody watch, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Get what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 5>So he spoke on that, and he made it by

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<v Speaker 5>all this other stuff, and algually three gets crazy with it,

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<v Speaker 5>like he always brings his white wife and all this extra.

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<v Speaker 2>It's uncomfortable a little bit, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 5>And then Ryan, And the one thing that Ryan did

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<v Speaker 5>do that I did respect is you know, he has

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<v Speaker 5>a voice in the platform, so he likes to, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>speak up for the black women, which a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>people don't. So I respect that part right the wrong.

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<v Speaker 5>I respect that we're gonna protect our women right because

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<v Speaker 5>they want to make injuries like this angry black girl

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<v Speaker 5>and all that. You know what that girl been through

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<v Speaker 5>from Baltimore, so I respect it is like.

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<v Speaker 3>She's not even angry, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>What I'm saying. That's that's the news they want to

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<v Speaker 2>pay all.

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<v Speaker 5>I think with the Ryan's like, yo, you bringing the

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<v Speaker 5>dude's wife up in it, like what we're talking about,

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<v Speaker 5>because because somebody else if you mentioned ain't wife, You're

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<v Speaker 5>not gonna do that with them. Argier three is the

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<v Speaker 5>kind of a kind of what he is, so you

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<v Speaker 5>can really play that game with him. And also like

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<v Speaker 5>like he always trying to look for a way to

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<v Speaker 5>have attention. I remember way back in the day we

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<v Speaker 5>had the NBA NFL lockout right, I mean, so we

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<v Speaker 5>we ain't playing those sports until we get an agreement

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<v Speaker 5>with the owners and the players.

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<v Speaker 2>He gets a vited of him going to the Stellers

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<v Speaker 2>facility and the doors is locked, Like what type of key?

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<v Speaker 3>What is that?

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't like this, so corder to me. I

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<v Speaker 2>can't even really everybody's different.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't really, you know, but I mean I understand, uh,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, the well, I don't understand the the ajuries

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<v Speaker 4>Kaitlyn Clark thing. I think that obviously to two women

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<v Speaker 4>that came in together coming from college, they obviously elevated

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<v Speaker 4>the sport as far as you know, the national attention

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<v Speaker 4>when they were in college. Uh, Kaitlyn Clark phenomenal player,

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<v Speaker 4>Angel Rees and Lsu did U was amazing, and now

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<v Speaker 4>they kind of parlayed that over into the pro level.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, I don't think the last the last

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<v Speaker 3>thing that.

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<v Speaker 4>Happened between them, when Angel got a technical foul or

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<v Speaker 4>Kaitlyn got a technical whatever it was, Kaitlyn Clark didn't

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<v Speaker 4>even foul her that hard, Like she just she swiped

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<v Speaker 4>down at the ball.

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<v Speaker 3>They're trying to say she pushed it. She didn't push it.

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<v Speaker 3>She swiped down. Now injuries pushed her teammate first, and

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<v Speaker 3>Kaylyn Clark was telling Reugh like, Yo, you don't see that.

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<v Speaker 4>And then the Angel would have had a wide open

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<v Speaker 4>layup and Kaitlyn Clark just filed to swipe down at

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<v Speaker 4>the ball and found it. Now it's turned into something like,

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<v Speaker 4>you know.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a regular felt it was a regular, but also's

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<v Speaker 3>response was a regular professional athlete lie as well, like

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<v Speaker 3>everything was regular.

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<v Speaker 5>My thing is like as an athlete, right, I can't

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<v Speaker 5>tell y'all can't tell me. I can't tell her how

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<v Speaker 5>you should feel somebody foul you certain way.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>The thing is, now, you know, I don't even rock

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<v Speaker 2>with you like that. You don't you don't put you, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying. And it's like.

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<v Speaker 5>Something like we got to look at women like they are.

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<v Speaker 5>They are athletes too, So there's the NBA. It won't

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<v Speaker 5>be no, it won't be no issue, you know what

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<v Speaker 5>I mean. So, and she felt like she hit her

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<v Speaker 5>or found her a certain way. I can't tell her

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<v Speaker 5>she's wrong for that, you know what I mean? Like,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know, I can't say that.

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<v Speaker 3>So you think the white wife was the one behind

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<v Speaker 3>all of this? I asked the question. Maul didn't, Uh,

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<v Speaker 3>I just don't.

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<v Speaker 5>Dudes just laughing, just looking at him like they both

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<v Speaker 5>trying to fight, pretender. So it's like they're the saying, God,

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<v Speaker 5>this one dude's a little bit more extra, you know

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<v Speaker 5>what I'm saying. I mean, I probably want to hit

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<v Speaker 5>it like that want brought his white wife into it

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<v Speaker 5>like that was a little too much.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that was a little. But I think what Ryan

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<v Speaker 4>was was trying to say is like, you know what

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<v Speaker 4>he said it. He was like, you don't understand black

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<v Speaker 4>women because you're married to a white woman.

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<v Speaker 3>Something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>That.

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<v Speaker 5>I think he said, yeah, I disagree with that because Yo,

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<v Speaker 5>you had a white baby mama.

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<v Speaker 2>Like what, Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Three hard

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<v Speaker 2>to get this.

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<v Speaker 5>Another thing is these dudes don't really really come from culture,

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<v Speaker 5>so like you're trying to get it so much that

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<v Speaker 5>you just say anything.

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<v Speaker 2>We're like, Yo, you got a white baby mom. It's

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<v Speaker 2>the same thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, I mean I just think that it's just

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<v Speaker 4>all for clicks and you know you yeah, yeah, A

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<v Speaker 4>lot a lot of that is definitely it's it's performative

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<v Speaker 4>stuff just to get people riled up.

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<v Speaker 3>But but I mean that happens to all of us

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<v Speaker 3>in this space. We end up coming off hypocritical of times,

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<v Speaker 3>because when we have that focus of like, let's try

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<v Speaker 3>to get clicks or whatever, we contradict a bunch of

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<v Speaker 3>shit that was already recorded. And everyone knows about us

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<v Speaker 3>because Ryan Clark was Andrew Schultz the one that talked

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<v Speaker 3>to Ryan Clark about the Hey, you've had women beater

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<v Speaker 3>on your show a bunch of times. Why are you

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<v Speaker 3>even getting in the mix on this like this happens.

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<v Speaker 3>This is not natural or normal that we have to

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<v Speaker 3>think of every thought every day to record and put

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<v Speaker 3>out because we're gonna be caught in some type of

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<v Speaker 3>hypocritical bullshit because we speak every fucking day. So I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I get it, but.

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<v Speaker 2>I think if you but have you been organic and

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<v Speaker 2>just honest to who you is? Yeah, I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>we have that problem. And everything's one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 5>But like, yo, if I believe everything I'll say, and

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<v Speaker 5>I'm doing everything from a genuine place, I don't think

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<v Speaker 5>you can never be wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm speaking in general forgetting that the race of your

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<v Speaker 3>baby mother is a little crazy. But I'm just speaking

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<v Speaker 3>to job. How the fuck you forget you got a

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<v Speaker 3>white baby, mam?

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 5>That's the one thing that drives me crazy when dudes

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<v Speaker 5>be doing this black pirate. I'm from our people, the culture,

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<v Speaker 5>but then the whole time only they white girls.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, yo, yeah, and it's not wrong with that,

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<v Speaker 2>but just don't be don't do all that. Just be normal.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, just just fall back when it comes to that

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<v Speaker 4>type of conversation, just fading into the background a little bit.

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<v Speaker 5>You run around you like you Malcolm Mexic and all that,

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<v Speaker 5>But then the whole time he's trying.

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<v Speaker 2>To like cold on.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank God, I don't touch white one. With that said,

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<v Speaker 3>moving on to the next, I'm sorry, it's been a

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<v Speaker 3>long day. Where are you at with this Joey badass daylight?

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<v Speaker 3>Ray Vaughan? Have you been paying attention to battle at all?

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<v Speaker 2>No? I like Joy badass, so I think he's talented.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't get the whole Kendrick joint that was, like,

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<v Speaker 5>I ain't really get all that, Like he's trying to

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<v Speaker 5>come at Kendrick.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to figure out.

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<v Speaker 3>Like why, Yeah, I mean yeah, he's shooting at what

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<v Speaker 3>would be deemed the biggest rapper right now, especially after

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty four, Like you're not supposed to shoo at

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<v Speaker 3>the best rapper. He's got to deal with the entire

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<v Speaker 3>West Coast on his way there. But I think he's

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<v Speaker 3>proved that Kendrick may need to come outside. He just

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<v Speaker 3>ran through all his homies, Paul.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think i' let's get this straight. So a

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<v Speaker 2>rapper don't have no real resident.

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<v Speaker 5>And I like Joey though, so hear me out dope

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<v Speaker 5>act in these Adope lyricis I like Rap? You know

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<v Speaker 5>noways everything's mumbling and all catch you. I like Rap,

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<v Speaker 5>So I like him. But like I'm just thinking, like

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<v Speaker 5>if I'm Kendrick, what like there's something to gain from

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<v Speaker 5>going against Jake Cole, going against Drake. The people look

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<v Speaker 5>at them as my peers, like we were on the same level.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me show y'all, well, like you gotta really earn that, right.

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<v Speaker 5>It's just like, I don't know who you think the

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<v Speaker 5>best NFL players, but like Patrickholmes at about the answer

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<v Speaker 5>to every dude that could bring you know.

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<v Speaker 2>What I'm saying, I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 3>But how this whole thing played out? Like where Kendrick

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<v Speaker 3>after the Drake battle, it was all West Coast, West

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<v Speaker 3>Coast looking we did, we had the greatest year ever.

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<v Speaker 3>We're all unified. It's West Coast. Joey said one bar

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<v Speaker 3>about the West Coast, and all of every last rapper

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<v Speaker 3>in LA started replying to Joey and it became this

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<v Speaker 3>West Coast unity shit and he ran through everybody. So

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<v Speaker 3>Kendricks needs to defend his coast.

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<v Speaker 2>No, he don't. Bro It's just like it's just like, Yo,

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<v Speaker 2>how do I this hurt me out.

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<v Speaker 5>How do I go from destroying Drake Drake we're talking

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<v Speaker 5>about in the rap battle.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you want me to go give you it?

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<v Speaker 5>Just don't even you know what I mean. Now I'm

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<v Speaker 5>gonna go get Joey. I just we could disagree.

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like if you smoked all my friends, I

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<v Speaker 3>got to step in as the big homie and be like,

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<v Speaker 3>all right, fine, I talk. But I think we're that

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<v Speaker 3>right because he ran through everybody.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, but LaShaun is saying is still though it's a

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<v Speaker 4>certain who did he run through? There's certain tiers.

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<v Speaker 3>There's like like if you were seen people from coast.

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<v Speaker 4>If I'm on the first tier and you run through

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<v Speaker 4>all of the guys on the third and fourth tiers,

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<v Speaker 4>you can't start yelling my name, like.

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<v Speaker 3>After you have the fucking Super Bowl parade party, everything

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<v Speaker 3>of winning the entire twenty twenty four year, the West

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<v Speaker 3>Coast is the greatest ship of all time, and one

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<v Speaker 3>rapper runs through everybody that even said a name or

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<v Speaker 3>word about him. Yeah, that that warrants some type of

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<v Speaker 3>reverence to me.

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<v Speaker 5>If you did a poll, right, I get two things

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<v Speaker 5>that I'm done with it. If you did a poll

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<v Speaker 5>I'm like, Yo, if you just ask, like, do people

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<v Speaker 5>know Joey bads as a as like a rapper rapper

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<v Speaker 5>or like the cat that's on Canaan. Most people you

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<v Speaker 5>know what I'm saying. So it's like if Kendrick I'm going,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm everywhere, you can't like I'm everywhere, Bro, they don't

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<v Speaker 5>even don't. It don't make sense. There's more to lose

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<v Speaker 5>and game. And the second thing is I think like

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<v Speaker 5>all the best rap battles, like like Hole was going

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<v Speaker 5>at nas and giving real bars and songs.

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<v Speaker 2>He gonna get Prodigy a bar.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Like this thing about what I'm saying, like you ain't

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<v Speaker 2>about to do all that.

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<v Speaker 3>To do that, Yeah, but that's backward to that point.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like Hole, even if it was subliminally reply

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<v Speaker 3>to literally everybody he was replying to P D. Crack,

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<v Speaker 3>he was proud to.

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<v Speaker 4>He's gonna respond, but it ain't gonna be like, it's

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<v Speaker 4>not gonna be a song. It's not gonna be a

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<v Speaker 4>song tailored specifically Joey, but it's gonna be some bars

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<v Speaker 4>in there where he's gonna address. Yeah, I heard you

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<v Speaker 4>calling my name, fam Like you know like he's not

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<v Speaker 4>gonna dedicate a whole moment to Joey Badass, So he's

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<v Speaker 4>not gonna.

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<v Speaker 2>Do that, and mean like y'all you're doing your thing.

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<v Speaker 2>You gotta gotta ya, ya got a good thing going on,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 5>And mass like a smaller pockast trying to call it.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's like I ain't about to even think about it,

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<v Speaker 5>like I'm gonna waste my time.

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<v Speaker 2>The dress underneath us just don't even really add up.

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<v Speaker 3>Some days you want to be petty though.

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<v Speaker 4>Some days you want to be petty and address everybody

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<v Speaker 4>though some days, but that's bad for business.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't do that. You can't do that though that's bad.

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<v Speaker 3>It's better for the community. Sometimes you have to humble

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<v Speaker 3>people and let him know, like I see you get

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<v Speaker 3>a little too big for your bridge, Like let me

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<v Speaker 3>just put things in perspective for you. Yeah, and just

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<v Speaker 3>give him half a bar. And then if he gave.

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<v Speaker 2>Joey what he want right and he answered bad. Now

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<v Speaker 2>every little or every guy is trying to get up there.

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<v Speaker 2>What's gonna do that, you know what I'm saying. Every

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<v Speaker 2>guy got my name.

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, no, you can't do that. But I think

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<v Speaker 3>in the beginning when Joey was trying to do it,

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<v Speaker 3>I was on the same side as you. I just

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<v Speaker 3>think he's proven himself this week that's warranted a different

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<v Speaker 3>type of notice, a little bit more of attention instead

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<v Speaker 3>of any guy just saying Kendrick.

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<v Speaker 2>Namegest in your mind right now? Who like today? Who

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest artists?

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<v Speaker 3>I still think the big three, Cole, Kendrick, and Drake

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<v Speaker 3>are still the three biggest rap artists.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, we had a whole beef in the rat one

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<v Speaker 5>one of the best I like j Cole.

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<v Speaker 2>He tapped out. He said, this is not from me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm tapping Then the other one that's even the biggest

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<v Speaker 2>one I took down. Would you know what I'm saying?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's funny. We had this conversation a few weeks

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<v Speaker 3>ago when I asked Mare, I said to Kendrick put

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<v Speaker 3>himself in a position that he never has to reply

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<v Speaker 3>to anybody for the rest of his life.

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<v Speaker 2>What it is?

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<v Speaker 3>I think, But who else? There's never There's no superstars

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<v Speaker 3>on the horizon, So I think this current moment is

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<v Speaker 3>the only thing Kendrick would have to reply to. Nobody

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<v Speaker 3>behind us right now that we can see as of

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<v Speaker 3>this moment is a rap superstar. I feel like that's

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<v Speaker 3>kind of dead and going right now.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, but more if he earns my respect, because

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<v Speaker 5>it's some dude that I got respect, you know that

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<v Speaker 5>you probably would answer to you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but it would have to be a legend. And

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think they're doing that either. Not a legends

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<v Speaker 3>ain't coming outside. Yeah, they raising their kids and podcasting.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's talk about let's talk about your transition. Obviously you've

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<v Speaker 3>done you know, major things on the field. H. Two

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<v Speaker 3>time super Bowl champion, All PROH. The list goes on,

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<v Speaker 3>when did you know or when did you start thinking

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<v Speaker 3>about your transition into TV?

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<v Speaker 2>So when I came in the league, I was so like.

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<v Speaker 5>I had like a chip on my shoulder, right, I

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<v Speaker 5>feel like I wasn't drafted. I was putting drafted that,

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<v Speaker 5>you know what I mean. So I always like driving

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<v Speaker 5>to be the best, to be the best. So I

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<v Speaker 5>start doing these different accolades, and I started getting a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of contracts. So you know, you go for making

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know, four hundred three, three hundred thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 5>a week, right, and.

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<v Speaker 2>You and you and you, you know, you you spending.

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<v Speaker 5>You see how it's moving. And then they go from

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<v Speaker 5>three hundred, four hundred grand to like, okay, one hundred grand.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, okay, okay, all right. Now now we have

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<v Speaker 5>eighty thousand a week. Now we had sixty.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, whoa. So I started seeing that.

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<v Speaker 5>Whole thing happen, you know, and then I didn't like

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<v Speaker 5>how Maybe I don't know if it's ego whatever, but

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<v Speaker 5>my roles was changing, and I'm like, yo, man, you

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<v Speaker 5>got me playing behind this dude.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm better than him because he's younger than me. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>bading this dude. And that's not how the league works.

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<v Speaker 2>The league is a young man's sport.

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<v Speaker 5>Unless you win the championships, they're not really keeping the

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<v Speaker 5>older dude. So I was like, okay, So I said, well,

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<v Speaker 5>I got to do something else. So I always thought

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<v Speaker 5>that I would do good on TV because I like

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<v Speaker 5>the tallest, easy to.

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<v Speaker 2>Me, you know what I mean. I can relate to

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of different players, So I knew I would

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<v Speaker 2>do that.

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<v Speaker 5>And then it kind of got into the real estate game,

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<v Speaker 5>probably like maybe like year nine. You know, it's buying

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<v Speaker 5>up small little properties, fixing them up, you know, getting

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<v Speaker 5>returns on them.

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<v Speaker 2>And I started doing like little apartments, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean. I see how that was going.

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<v Speaker 5>So I'm like, damn, if I could just go to

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<v Speaker 5>all the seasons I like to hang out at and

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<v Speaker 5>start owning apartments, I could hang out and I could

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<v Speaker 5>be making money. So then I started doing like big

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<v Speaker 5>developments like ground up, Like so right now, I just

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<v Speaker 5>finished in my hometown, Harrisburg. It's like our Philadelphia seventeen

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<v Speaker 5>dollars fifty unit apartments, you know what I mean. So

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<v Speaker 5>that's like the new thing I'm doing the side. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>now I don't have to work with like a million

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<v Speaker 5>different tenants. It's it's all brand new, so nothing should

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<v Speaker 5>really be breaking.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean. And everything is there. So

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<v Speaker 2>and I was getting a lot of hasshes from like

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<v Speaker 2>doing the smaller things. You know, people it's bro that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, they calling you.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody got playing new, real nice, everybody got a plan.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So that's how I got to that market.

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<v Speaker 5>Did After that, I start doing the podcast me and

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<v Speaker 5>my brother Deshaun Jackson, you know what I mean, and

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<v Speaker 5>it's start getting bigger and better. So that's how I

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<v Speaker 5>really transition you know, there's no real like me and

0:19:12.560 --> 0:19:14.399
<v Speaker 5>you to tell you, yo, when you retire, this is

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<v Speaker 5>what you do. That's why a lot of guys are

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<v Speaker 5>because you're making a million off you know, yearly, you

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<v Speaker 5>know what I mean, and like you're playing a sport

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<v Speaker 5>that stopperly your job. You love it, right, and then

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<v Speaker 5>when you're done, there's nobody say, yo, this is what

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<v Speaker 5>you do?

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 5>So I just had a good supporting cast run and

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<v Speaker 5>that's kind of got to where I'm at today.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because that's got to be tough. Like the average

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<v Speaker 3>person probably retires at sixty five, sixty six whatever. Professional athletes,

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<v Speaker 3>some of y'all be retiring in twenty eight. Like life

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<v Speaker 3>is short, but life is long as fuck. And now

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<v Speaker 3>it's like, all right, everything I've known for the last

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<v Speaker 3>twenty eight years is done. Where do I go from here?

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<v Speaker 3>And money can drive quick. So I feel for a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of professional athletes, especially NFL athletes, because y'all retire

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<v Speaker 3>quicker than MLB NBA because it's more of a tough game.

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<v Speaker 3>How do you feel that the politics are similar in

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<v Speaker 3>NFL organizations and the TV world.

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<v Speaker 5>The politics, So there's a lot of times when dudes

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<v Speaker 5>man Davies. They'll get on TV and they'll change who

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<v Speaker 5>they are just to make the bosses happy or to

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<v Speaker 5>you know, continue to get paid because they got a family,

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<v Speaker 5>you know what I mean. So it's this tricky situation like, Yo,

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<v Speaker 5>you ain't being rare or I played with you.

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<v Speaker 2>You ain't even act like that. But now I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>a player, no moore, and I'm trying to remain employed

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<v Speaker 2>getting my money.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think also in football is like it ain't

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<v Speaker 5>always the best player that plays, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Like there's sometimes when you a coach, he'll keep a

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<v Speaker 2>job for thirty years, and it's like, how does he

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<v Speaker 2>not't that smart? He might his dad might a coach.

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<v Speaker 2>He know that coach he hires you.

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<v Speaker 5>Relationships everybody's buddy buddy, And I think sometimes you be

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<v Speaker 5>so wrapped up in YO, the best pleasure players should

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<v Speaker 5>win and play and the best TV person I should

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<v Speaker 5>play or she should be on TV. It don't always

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<v Speaker 5>happen like that, and I think the relationships is what

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<v Speaker 5>really wins.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, how do you feel about sports debate culture?

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<v Speaker 4>Like you see a lot of these shows that come

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<v Speaker 4>out it's based around guys debate and it's something that

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<v Speaker 4>we all do growing up in the barbershop. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>whose favorite player, whose favorite team. Now that they've been

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<v Speaker 4>able to kind of cough this lane in the sports

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<v Speaker 4>television world where it's all debate based, how do you

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<v Speaker 4>feel about the debate culture on TV.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean it's it's kind of dying down a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit.

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<v Speaker 5>I think the last real debates we had was like

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<v Speaker 5>Skip and Shannon Sharp, you know what I mean. But

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<v Speaker 5>I do like you because you know, nowadays, like the

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<v Speaker 5>culture is now accepted in the corporate world, right, Like

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<v Speaker 5>we talked about Kencher Lamar, kench Lamarr's on everything you listen,

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<v Speaker 5>were rapping about they mean just going to college and

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<v Speaker 5>everybody is white blacks.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody's being acceptible to it.

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<v Speaker 5>So now when you get into these conversation on TV,

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<v Speaker 5>sometimes it may come off like it is in the barbershop,

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<v Speaker 5>but it's authentic. And I think the best thing about

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<v Speaker 5>TV now is with these different platforms of like podcasts

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<v Speaker 5>and all that is letting the people really see that, Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't want the corporate take, give me the real take,

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<v Speaker 5>you know. And now it's like you're letting players really

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<v Speaker 5>speak on it. Because back in the day, yo, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>I chanced to interview Kyrie Irving about this and it

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<v Speaker 5>was like, I'd rather give my real take and real

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<v Speaker 5>feelings and thoughts to people that was in my seats,

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<v Speaker 5>if it was football, bass, whatever it may be, but

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<v Speaker 5>stuff that we both go understand, compared to going to

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<v Speaker 5>the old media and letting them tell.

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<v Speaker 2>My story because they didn't really know.

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<v Speaker 5>You get what I'm saying that you gonna tell me

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<v Speaker 5>what you think how it is and you never even

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<v Speaker 5>really played, You never was in the locker. You never

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<v Speaker 5>let a player deliver that message because yo, he might.

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<v Speaker 2>Have a better way of explaining to the viewers, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because he played, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 3>That does that make I feel like the you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the inception of first take when it was skip and

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<v Speaker 3>steven A was damn at the height of your career.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you did you tune in and like, did that

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<v Speaker 3>ever affect your mental watching that in the morning before

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<v Speaker 3>going to practice or before going to a game.

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<v Speaker 2>Good question.

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<v Speaker 5>So I always like I was type of dude because

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<v Speaker 5>my dad was kind of tough on me. So I

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<v Speaker 5>always liked, you know, hearing the good in the bad.

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<v Speaker 5>You know what I'm saying some dudes loved to hear

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<v Speaker 5>all the good I want to hear it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh oh you think I'm not like that? Okay, back

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<v Speaker 2>and to give you something to feel the fire with.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what? Sometimes though, I used to look at

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<v Speaker 2>like certain people that would argue about me. So I

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<v Speaker 2>give an example, like if some of ads you see

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<v Speaker 2>on here, man, they.

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<v Speaker 5>Ate four hundred pounds dog and like, and you telling

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<v Speaker 5>me how Lebron ain't that good?

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<v Speaker 2>Like that, I'm just looking like, yo, how can you?

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<v Speaker 2>How can you say that? You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>So never really me. I remember my first lesson was

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<v Speaker 2>I remember when I got in the locker room man,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is we had.

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<v Speaker 5>Brian Westbrook who was phenomenal. I was a rookie, and

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<v Speaker 5>they was like, yo, like you're letting Westbrook go for

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<v Speaker 5>LaShaun mccollay.

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<v Speaker 2>Who who's this dude? Like he got a little one

0:24:14.720 --> 0:24:18.159
<v Speaker 2>of the reporters. I had a little boy body, right,

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<v Speaker 2>so he don't know where I'm from.

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<v Speaker 5>I said, Yo, when I go in his locker room,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna take the paper and I'm gonna let him

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<v Speaker 5>have it, right, so I'm ready. It's like it's a clock.

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<v Speaker 5>I can't wait to see the term of eight o'clock.

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<v Speaker 5>The media come a locker room, I go, right, Toy,

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<v Speaker 5>I've never seen him before. And then when I get

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<v Speaker 5>to him, he got some thick ass glasses, big gas stomach.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, Fam, I can't get mad at you. You

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<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying. He don't know what a real

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<v Speaker 2>looked like. That was my first lesson.

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<v Speaker 5>It's like I never really let them dudes kind of

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<v Speaker 5>like dictate who I am. But I think sometimes like

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<v Speaker 5>little ex players or certain dudes that really study the game,

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<v Speaker 5>we talk about me like like they give a Skip

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<v Speaker 5>a hard time.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what I will say about Skip everything.

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<v Speaker 5>Skips say he believes it, like he gonna do a

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<v Speaker 5>million research on He's gonna So you don't have to

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<v Speaker 5>play sports to know it. But if you really dedicated

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<v Speaker 5>you research it, you gonna know about it. So that's

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<v Speaker 5>why somebody like him. I respect what you say because

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<v Speaker 5>it might not be what I wanted to hear, but

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<v Speaker 5>there's some truths to something he's saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, does that make sense you're studying and he's really

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<v Speaker 2>researching it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Skip probably still think t Bow is better than

0:25:26.160 --> 0:25:29.399
<v Speaker 4>Lamar Jackson. I'm sure he's still down on that t bow.

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<v Speaker 3>But we're just waiting for first ballance.

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<v Speaker 2>Wins we got.

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<v Speaker 5>You know what I'm saying, have a talented quarterback debate

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<v Speaker 5>with you, because that's not but somebody he wins, he

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<v Speaker 5>finds he gonna.

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<v Speaker 2>Believe that bullshit.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he definitely believe it. Did you keep that in

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<v Speaker 3>mind like going into the podcast and TV, et cetera,

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<v Speaker 3>to be a little bit more empathetic with athletes and

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<v Speaker 3>maybe even if they having a down year or like

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<v Speaker 3>a few games. Do you keep that in the back

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<v Speaker 3>of your mind because you know what it feels like

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<v Speaker 3>when somebody else is critiquing you when you're mid season.

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<v Speaker 5>See now, I struggled with the TV and podcast because

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<v Speaker 5>I was good on TV so early that they got

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<v Speaker 5>me in spot, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>And like I didn't have my road training. So when

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<v Speaker 2>I see ain't that good? Motherfuck? Ain't that good? On you? Trash?

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying. Because I'm a player, I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't realized that I can't say how in the locker room?

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<v Speaker 2>He said.

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<v Speaker 5>And the hard thing with me was like I don't

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<v Speaker 5>care what money you make because nobody care about that.

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<v Speaker 5>How good are you so what I would say different things.

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<v Speaker 5>I would have people's you know, cousin's family approached me

0:26:32.440 --> 0:26:34.439
<v Speaker 5>and they will be like, yo, why hold up man,

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<v Speaker 5>why your cousin will make your cousin good?

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying. So I didn't learn how

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<v Speaker 2>to say different things because sometimes like you could come

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<v Speaker 2>off a certain way like I give you example.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh so well, one of the chiefs, right, my last

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<v Speaker 5>year was with them, and I played with a lot

0:26:51.440 --> 0:26:53.080
<v Speaker 5>of They're good players. I played with a lot of them.

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<v Speaker 2>I know them. And one of their teammates wasn't hold

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<v Speaker 2>up his and it's a bargain, so on him out

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<v Speaker 2>on the pod.

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<v Speaker 5>And then one of my main man's like, yo, dang

0:27:04.040 --> 0:27:07.240
<v Speaker 5>too far or shady, Yo, dang, get cutting some slack.

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<v Speaker 2>Now. My job is to keep it as really as possible.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, Well, my relationship with you was like you, my man,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't want to so I say, look, man, I'm

0:27:16.800 --> 0:27:17.920
<v Speaker 5>gonna try to be as fair.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 5>So maybe one hundred percent opinion on this dude is

0:27:21.960 --> 0:27:23.760
<v Speaker 5>that he ain't that good. Maybe I could say in

0:27:23.760 --> 0:27:26.520
<v Speaker 5>a different light where I'm being more respectful. That's the

0:27:26.600 --> 0:27:28.920
<v Speaker 5>word that's with more respect, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes you can deal with that too.

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<v Speaker 4>And now I'm glad you went into that, because there

0:27:35.600 --> 0:27:37.440
<v Speaker 4>is a there is a thing that you have to

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<v Speaker 4>do when you're talking about either former teammates or colleagues

0:27:42.200 --> 0:27:44.720
<v Speaker 4>and people that you have a real uh connection and

0:27:44.720 --> 0:27:47.520
<v Speaker 4>relationship with. You don't want to be as or come

0:27:47.600 --> 0:27:50.760
<v Speaker 4>across as harsh to guys that you know, you really

0:27:50.840 --> 0:27:53.680
<v Speaker 4>kick it with on a real life in real life situations,

0:27:54.080 --> 0:27:55.480
<v Speaker 4>as somebody that you're just.

0:27:55.520 --> 0:27:57.600
<v Speaker 3>Watching the game. I never met this this kid yet,

0:27:57.880 --> 0:27:58.760
<v Speaker 3>but you know, you got a lot.

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<v Speaker 4>Of upside to him, so you might be a little

0:28:00.359 --> 0:28:03.159
<v Speaker 4>harsh on him versus the guy that you was actually,

0:28:03.680 --> 0:28:06.439
<v Speaker 4>you know, in the trenches with and he's still playing.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't want to go at him because that's my

0:28:09.240 --> 0:28:11.640
<v Speaker 4>man for real, like in real life. So it's kind

0:28:11.680 --> 0:28:14.159
<v Speaker 4>of hard to keep it real. But you got to

0:28:14.160 --> 0:28:17.159
<v Speaker 4>find a way to be objective, be honest, but you

0:28:17.359 --> 0:28:19.400
<v Speaker 4>have to find that little gray area.

0:28:19.560 --> 0:28:20.960
<v Speaker 3>Was like, that's my man. I ain't gonna go too.

0:28:20.880 --> 0:28:22.800
<v Speaker 2>Odd on them. But see the thing is what I

0:28:22.880 --> 0:28:25.480
<v Speaker 2>be telling you, I'm like, yo, like this is my job. Now,

0:28:25.600 --> 0:28:26.280
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean so.

0:28:27.760 --> 0:28:30.159
<v Speaker 5>Like I had a problem with what I'm gonna say,

0:28:30.160 --> 0:28:33.760
<v Speaker 5>a problem, but James Hard and his homies had an

0:28:33.800 --> 0:28:36.840
<v Speaker 5>issue or something said, and I say, yo, man, like

0:28:38.640 --> 0:28:39.760
<v Speaker 5>I know you don't know me, I don't know you.

0:28:39.840 --> 0:28:41.600
<v Speaker 5>We know all the same people, so they'll tell you

0:28:41.640 --> 0:28:44.480
<v Speaker 5>how I get Damn. It's like, Yo, if you play better,

0:28:45.040 --> 0:28:47.840
<v Speaker 5>I'll talk about you better. Right, So we said yo,

0:28:48.080 --> 0:28:50.760
<v Speaker 5>if you ask somethingout, James say, Yo, one of the

0:28:50.840 --> 0:28:54.320
<v Speaker 5>greatest talents we've ever seen. But if we're talking about

0:28:54.400 --> 0:28:59.200
<v Speaker 5>like today, yeah, I say, well, bro, it's documented every time.

0:28:59.240 --> 0:29:01.800
<v Speaker 5>It's like a elimination game of game on line, like

0:29:01.920 --> 0:29:03.040
<v Speaker 5>you just don't even deliver it.

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<v Speaker 4>You disappear you yeah, right right, Yeah, what I'm saying, Yeah, Yeah,

0:29:08.680 --> 0:29:10.080
<v Speaker 4>you gotta be honest in that moment.

0:29:11.680 --> 0:29:12.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's.

0:29:14.360 --> 0:29:14.479
<v Speaker 2>Yo.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And they don't want to You can't keep disappearing

0:29:19.120 --> 0:29:20.920
<v Speaker 4>in the playoffs. And don't think that we're not gonna

0:29:20.960 --> 0:29:22.120
<v Speaker 4>say you can get right.

0:29:22.040 --> 0:29:25.160
<v Speaker 3>In front of our playoffs. Yeah, and that's that's interesting.

0:29:25.240 --> 0:29:27.080
<v Speaker 3>Let me ask you because we deal more in the

0:29:27.160 --> 0:29:29.200
<v Speaker 3>music world, and we've been approached by artists even that

0:29:29.320 --> 0:29:32.880
<v Speaker 3>are we consider associates or friends. Artists are sensitive like

0:29:32.960 --> 0:29:36.360
<v Speaker 3>that just comes with the territory. Do you think athletes

0:29:36.400 --> 0:29:40.320
<v Speaker 3>are just as sensitive? Oh my god, yeah, because we

0:29:40.440 --> 0:29:42.000
<v Speaker 3>I mean we we again this don't know ball. We

0:29:42.040 --> 0:29:44.680
<v Speaker 3>don't talk sports that much. We talk music, and we

0:29:44.840 --> 0:29:48.400
<v Speaker 3>for the last ten years have had to deal with friends, associates,

0:29:48.560 --> 0:29:51.240
<v Speaker 3>artists all the time being super sensitive. Well we weren't

0:29:51.240 --> 0:29:54.200
<v Speaker 3>even being disrespectful, called anybody out their name. Art is

0:29:54.240 --> 0:29:55.880
<v Speaker 3>meant to be critiqued, so we critiqued it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it.

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<v Speaker 3>But I always kind of put that sensitivity just artist.

0:30:01.160 --> 0:30:03.520
<v Speaker 3>I never even thought that athletes could be that sensitive

0:30:03.520 --> 0:30:04.200
<v Speaker 3>based off.

0:30:04.480 --> 0:30:07.400
<v Speaker 2>God, yeah, more sensitive.

0:30:07.800 --> 0:30:11.920
<v Speaker 5>I think we have a longer, like we're successful longer.

0:30:12.040 --> 0:30:13.480
<v Speaker 5>Let me bring it down, like, so.

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<v Speaker 2>Most athletes, they've been good since they've been like five

0:30:15.760 --> 0:30:19.280
<v Speaker 2>years old. Yeah, they've been their favorites, okay to get

0:30:19.320 --> 0:30:19.920
<v Speaker 2>to high school.

0:30:19.960 --> 0:30:21.840
<v Speaker 3>They night still the stars.

0:30:21.920 --> 0:30:22.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:30:22.320 --> 0:30:24.920
<v Speaker 5>I like rappers and rappers and I know, like they

0:30:24.960 --> 0:30:27.200
<v Speaker 5>may be rapping this somebody somehow, they somebody look out

0:30:27.200 --> 0:30:28.400
<v Speaker 5>for him and then they get a chance, then.

0:30:28.280 --> 0:30:31.080
<v Speaker 2>They blow ball players. They've been good forever though.

0:30:32.040 --> 0:30:33.479
<v Speaker 3>I never thought of that, you know what I mean,

0:30:33.760 --> 0:30:34.320
<v Speaker 3>It means something.

0:30:34.400 --> 0:30:38.600
<v Speaker 5>We got egos, you know what I'm saying, so, like,

0:30:38.720 --> 0:30:42.360
<v Speaker 5>everything is competitive in sports, so I think we are

0:30:42.480 --> 0:30:43.240
<v Speaker 5>super sensitive.

0:30:43.480 --> 0:30:46.240
<v Speaker 2>Like, bro, you should be because even.

0:30:46.160 --> 0:30:49.840
<v Speaker 5>In rap I feel like like a player that's not

0:30:49.920 --> 0:30:52.320
<v Speaker 5>that good in the NFL. You know, he used to

0:30:52.360 --> 0:30:53.200
<v Speaker 5>be the man somewhere.

0:30:55.160 --> 0:30:56.880
<v Speaker 2>He like to his city. He the man like you

0:30:57.160 --> 0:30:58.880
<v Speaker 2>to tell go to his college.

0:30:58.920 --> 0:30:59.600
<v Speaker 3>He was the ship.

0:30:59.760 --> 0:31:02.000
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you get through the pros, it's like, yeah here

0:31:02.040 --> 0:31:05.600
<v Speaker 5>the third string man. Wat we got egos. We stay

0:31:05.680 --> 0:31:06.640
<v Speaker 5>sensitive even to.

0:31:06.680 --> 0:31:10.040
<v Speaker 2>This day and the times were you know, I'll meet

0:31:10.040 --> 0:31:12.680
<v Speaker 2>somebody or whatever and uh, they'll give me respect because

0:31:12.680 --> 0:31:15.160
<v Speaker 2>of stuff I didn't feel, but it'd be real dry,

0:31:16.200 --> 0:31:16.719
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 6>You might have said something, Yeah, so I said, yo, man,

0:31:21.800 --> 0:31:24.360
<v Speaker 6>I said we got an issue, like I finished or

0:31:24.400 --> 0:31:26.240
<v Speaker 6>something like that, because I want to get off the

0:31:26.280 --> 0:31:28.480
<v Speaker 6>way because most people.

0:31:28.280 --> 0:31:30.040
<v Speaker 2>That rock me they like me. I got that type

0:31:30.040 --> 0:31:32.000
<v Speaker 2>of person rocking me while we got what we got

0:31:32.040 --> 0:31:33.000
<v Speaker 2>a problem about though.

0:31:33.040 --> 0:31:36.480
<v Speaker 3>Right right, and back to that sensitivity and back to

0:31:36.840 --> 0:31:39.600
<v Speaker 3>the debate pundit shows when you were playing, was it

0:31:39.640 --> 0:31:42.280
<v Speaker 3>ever awkward in the locker room when one of your

0:31:42.320 --> 0:31:45.680
<v Speaker 3>teammates got cooked on first take? And it's just the element,

0:31:45.800 --> 0:31:48.160
<v Speaker 3>like the elephant in the room no one's saying ship,

0:31:48.240 --> 0:31:51.160
<v Speaker 3>but everybody saw all their critiques and you already know

0:31:51.200 --> 0:31:52.800
<v Speaker 3>he feeling a way. Is that a thing in the

0:31:52.840 --> 0:31:57.880
<v Speaker 3>locker room? Do you'll talk about what's going on with Fox?

0:31:58.520 --> 0:32:01.040
<v Speaker 2>No? No, we like people don't. They don't. They don't

0:32:01.040 --> 0:32:02.480
<v Speaker 2>have no effect over the we had team, you know

0:32:02.520 --> 0:32:03.680
<v Speaker 2>what I mean. It's us against them.

0:32:03.760 --> 0:32:05.880
<v Speaker 5>So yeah, you had a bad game, but you my man,

0:32:05.960 --> 0:32:07.680
<v Speaker 5>you my brother, Like, I don't care what they say,

0:32:08.200 --> 0:32:10.640
<v Speaker 5>but there's times when I've had one time where one

0:32:10.640 --> 0:32:13.080
<v Speaker 5>of my teammates was you know, he got caught calling

0:32:13.440 --> 0:32:16.479
<v Speaker 5>blacks niggas Braley Cooper remember that situation.

0:32:16.760 --> 0:32:21.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like awkward time. I was like, yo, like this

0:32:21.160 --> 0:32:22.320
<v Speaker 2>is my man for real?

0:32:22.760 --> 0:32:24.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I know I heard what he said.

0:32:24.760 --> 0:32:26.560
<v Speaker 2>I only believe that he made us mad. But it's

0:32:26.640 --> 0:32:29.280
<v Speaker 2>like you did say that, like it's the league is

0:32:29.280 --> 0:32:30.880
<v Speaker 2>full of black blacks. I mean, tho, this is we

0:32:31.000 --> 0:32:34.160
<v Speaker 2>all everywhere? So that was real awkward. What was that?

0:32:34.240 --> 0:32:36.280
<v Speaker 3>What was that conversation in the locker room?

0:32:38.080 --> 0:32:40.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? So so what they did was they kept me

0:32:40.760 --> 0:32:44.320
<v Speaker 2>away from all of us, so really couldn't like a laddie,

0:32:44.360 --> 0:32:45.880
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. But then we had you know,

0:32:45.960 --> 0:32:49.560
<v Speaker 2>Mike Vickers, everybody's og and Vic was like, he said,

0:32:50.280 --> 0:32:53.000
<v Speaker 2>he had a team eating He said, look, man, what he.

0:32:53.080 --> 0:32:55.160
<v Speaker 5>Did was wrong, and I ain't for that shit either,

0:32:55.520 --> 0:32:57.040
<v Speaker 5>he said, but I've done a lot of things that

0:32:57.160 --> 0:32:59.400
<v Speaker 5>I'm sorry for. You know what I'm saying that that

0:32:59.480 --> 0:33:01.080
<v Speaker 5>I did that I really mean to dude. And he

0:33:01.280 --> 0:33:04.520
<v Speaker 5>was like, you know, we all have done stuff or

0:33:04.600 --> 0:33:06.560
<v Speaker 5>say things behind closed doors that ain't right.

0:33:07.080 --> 0:33:08.800
<v Speaker 2>And when he kindly did all that because it's who

0:33:08.840 --> 0:33:11.120
<v Speaker 2>he is and the respect that we gave him, we

0:33:11.320 --> 0:33:13.000
<v Speaker 2>was like, well, shit, we gonna give him a pass,

0:33:13.160 --> 0:33:15.840
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. So, but it was awkward

0:33:15.880 --> 0:33:19.360
<v Speaker 2>because now he get a pass. You had a block

0:33:19.440 --> 0:33:20.640
<v Speaker 2>for him, m M.

0:33:22.520 --> 0:33:26.320
<v Speaker 5>Or win in a game, right, and you know every

0:33:26.360 --> 0:33:28.880
<v Speaker 5>game we played, everybody showing do something thirty twenty and

0:33:28.960 --> 0:33:30.719
<v Speaker 5>it's like I get why they want to hurt him,

0:33:30.760 --> 0:33:31.840
<v Speaker 5>but it's like, yo, this is our man.

0:33:32.160 --> 0:33:33.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah now that was real awkward.

0:33:34.560 --> 0:33:36.720
<v Speaker 3>Wow, Yeah, yeah, that's tough. And that I got a

0:33:36.760 --> 0:33:38.560
<v Speaker 3>block for you and you just said what you just said,

0:33:38.600 --> 0:33:39.960
<v Speaker 3>It's like that was tough.

0:33:40.120 --> 0:33:42.480
<v Speaker 5>That was you know, everyone played certain games and love

0:33:43.040 --> 0:33:45.160
<v Speaker 5>you know, it's football thirty They punched it under pile

0:33:45.960 --> 0:33:46.920
<v Speaker 5>grab nuts.

0:33:47.080 --> 0:33:50.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah you know what I mean, and the like you know,

0:33:50.480 --> 0:33:52.800
<v Speaker 2>they face man's trying to their eyes out. But I

0:33:52.880 --> 0:33:54.640
<v Speaker 2>got to protect him because he's my man, right.

0:33:55.320 --> 0:33:57.240
<v Speaker 3>And I do love to hear that about Michael Vick

0:33:57.240 --> 0:33:59.240
<v Speaker 3>because he always got the rap that he was, especially

0:33:59.280 --> 0:34:01.160
<v Speaker 3>in Philly, that he that he wasn't a good leader

0:34:01.680 --> 0:34:04.320
<v Speaker 3>and he could Like that's great to even hear that

0:34:04.720 --> 0:34:06.600
<v Speaker 3>Vic was taking on that type of role, Like what

0:34:06.760 --> 0:34:08.600
<v Speaker 3>was his years like with Michael Vick? To me, is

0:34:08.680 --> 0:34:12.160
<v Speaker 3>like a superhero, Like what was it like even being

0:34:12.200 --> 0:34:14.359
<v Speaker 3>in the same locker room with y'all?

0:34:14.400 --> 0:34:16.600
<v Speaker 5>Look, I got in the league at twenty years old.

0:34:16.640 --> 0:34:18.879
<v Speaker 5>I was the youngest play in the league. So Mike Vicky,

0:34:19.000 --> 0:34:20.879
<v Speaker 5>he did his little bit. He came he came home

0:34:21.239 --> 0:34:24.920
<v Speaker 5>right the Eagles, and I remember he walking to the

0:34:25.040 --> 0:34:25.400
<v Speaker 5>uh he.

0:34:25.520 --> 0:34:29.600
<v Speaker 2>Walking into the to the facility whatever, and I'm said,

0:34:29.840 --> 0:34:32.080
<v Speaker 2>I say, what's up, y'all? Straight and woker, what's up? Yeah,

0:34:32.120 --> 0:34:34.320
<v Speaker 2>what's up? What's good? All right? And he walked on.

0:34:37.120 --> 0:34:39.120
<v Speaker 2>You know, I would love to see that. I've ever

0:34:39.239 --> 0:34:40.960
<v Speaker 2>just talked all my Homi. He's like, yo dog.

0:34:41.040 --> 0:34:43.480
<v Speaker 3>I like, you can't say yo dog?

0:34:43.600 --> 0:34:49.480
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, right right, well, yeah, Vic, Well he was special.

0:34:49.560 --> 0:34:50.600
<v Speaker 2>He was like you know.

0:34:50.719 --> 0:34:53.359
<v Speaker 5>The thing with Vic is he don't even understand how

0:34:54.360 --> 0:34:57.000
<v Speaker 5>how big he is. He don't really see who we icon.

0:34:57.880 --> 0:34:59.920
<v Speaker 5>We in the club you got air force in the

0:35:00.120 --> 0:35:02.400
<v Speaker 5>in the head man were like, yo, you like you

0:35:02.520 --> 0:35:03.719
<v Speaker 5>might you don't even get it.

0:35:05.480 --> 0:35:08.400
<v Speaker 3>Super humble, like do you know who you are?

0:35:09.200 --> 0:35:11.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Like like take them take them jeans off, put some.

0:35:11.520 --> 0:35:13.400
<v Speaker 3>Real like yeah, yeah, he.

0:35:13.600 --> 0:35:14.520
<v Speaker 2>Was super humble. Bro.

0:35:14.680 --> 0:35:17.080
<v Speaker 5>One of the best teammates. He's one of the best.

0:35:17.120 --> 0:35:19.400
<v Speaker 5>He's better person he is. This player, Bro is different.

0:35:19.719 --> 0:35:21.320
<v Speaker 3>What was it What was that time like for you

0:35:21.400 --> 0:35:21.760
<v Speaker 3>in Philly?

0:35:21.760 --> 0:35:24.839
<v Speaker 4>Because I mean the city of Phi, Philadelphia to this day,

0:35:25.200 --> 0:35:28.400
<v Speaker 4>you know they love you. Your time in Philly, what

0:35:28.480 --> 0:35:32.040
<v Speaker 4>you did for the Eagles is legendary. What was it

0:35:32.360 --> 0:35:36.600
<v Speaker 4>like that energy during your time in Philadelphia, Like just

0:35:36.680 --> 0:35:39.840
<v Speaker 4>the fans, the city, the team, the organization.

0:35:40.000 --> 0:35:41.279
<v Speaker 3>What was that time like for you?

0:35:42.280 --> 0:35:42.440
<v Speaker 2>Oh?

0:35:42.600 --> 0:35:44.960
<v Speaker 5>Man, Philly was special. You don't really helped me grow

0:35:45.160 --> 0:35:47.480
<v Speaker 5>to be like a man. You know what I'm saying,

0:35:47.520 --> 0:35:50.160
<v Speaker 5>Like I was twenty years old. Man, that's such a

0:35:50.200 --> 0:35:52.360
<v Speaker 5>big city. You don't know what they expect. The fans

0:35:52.520 --> 0:35:55.440
<v Speaker 5>was great. Big sports always keep you keep you honest,

0:35:55.480 --> 0:35:57.840
<v Speaker 5>you know what I'm saying, Like I just got inducted

0:35:57.880 --> 0:36:01.000
<v Speaker 5>to the Eagles Hall of Fame congression this year.

0:36:01.560 --> 0:36:03.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and just saying, all the fans embrace me, man,

0:36:04.080 --> 0:36:05.320
<v Speaker 2>just just love.

0:36:05.200 --> 0:36:09.200
<v Speaker 5>And I feel like as a as like a that's

0:36:09.200 --> 0:36:11.720
<v Speaker 5>the closest thing to having like a real family in NFLA.

0:36:11.760 --> 0:36:14.680
<v Speaker 5>The NFL is always like in and out evolving door.

0:36:14.760 --> 0:36:17.239
<v Speaker 5>Guys come in, guys come out. But the Eagles fan

0:36:17.320 --> 0:36:19.360
<v Speaker 5>basing and and the ownership and all that, like they

0:36:19.400 --> 0:36:21.000
<v Speaker 5>really make you feel like a real family. Like there's

0:36:21.040 --> 0:36:23.600
<v Speaker 5>times where I talked to the owner all the time,

0:36:23.719 --> 0:36:25.400
<v Speaker 5>you know what I mean. I'm hont at the players,

0:36:25.560 --> 0:36:27.680
<v Speaker 5>like trying to get sa Quanta come to Philly, like

0:36:27.719 --> 0:36:29.680
<v Speaker 5>I was trying to do that, trying to help out,

0:36:30.480 --> 0:36:32.319
<v Speaker 5>and most teams don't really do that. They don't really

0:36:32.320 --> 0:36:33.520
<v Speaker 5>even care, you know what I mean.

0:36:33.640 --> 0:36:36.719
<v Speaker 2>So that was special man playing with the Shawn and

0:36:36.920 --> 0:36:39.920
<v Speaker 2>Dream MacMan all them dudes. You know, we're still tight

0:36:40.000 --> 0:36:41.920
<v Speaker 2>to this day. So I love my time in Philly,

0:36:42.280 --> 0:36:43.879
<v Speaker 2>you know, and you know the fan base.

0:36:43.960 --> 0:36:50.160
<v Speaker 3>So he got the head coaching at Delaware State, right, Yeah, Jackson,

0:36:50.320 --> 0:37:00.680
<v Speaker 3>that love state for other reasons. Yeah, Classic. All right,

0:37:00.840 --> 0:37:05.880
<v Speaker 3>where do you rank the Philly sports fan base across

0:37:05.920 --> 0:37:08.600
<v Speaker 3>the board? Like I think, of course Oakland Raiders, you know,

0:37:08.719 --> 0:37:11.120
<v Speaker 3>before they went to Vegas, that was always the stereotype.

0:37:11.560 --> 0:37:14.320
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if there's a bigger group of animals

0:37:15.040 --> 0:37:18.480
<v Speaker 3>than the Philadelphia Eagles fan base. I have friends that

0:37:18.560 --> 0:37:20.920
<v Speaker 3>are Eagles fans. They're great people individually, but when they

0:37:21.000 --> 0:37:24.640
<v Speaker 3>get together, they're the worst group of human beings I've

0:37:24.719 --> 0:37:26.520
<v Speaker 3>ever seen in my life. You know, there's a riot

0:37:26.600 --> 0:37:31.040
<v Speaker 3>police section at the Eagle Stadium that's only in Philly.

0:37:31.160 --> 0:37:33.200
<v Speaker 3>That's not in any of the stadium There's.

0:37:33.040 --> 0:37:35.960
<v Speaker 2>No right they had a jail in there.

0:37:36.200 --> 0:37:38.760
<v Speaker 3>Yes, no, there's a jail in the stadium.

0:37:39.560 --> 0:37:42.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, I would write Philly fans probably one one.

0:37:43.080 --> 0:37:45.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't think it's close. I don't think it's

0:37:45.680 --> 0:37:45.960
<v Speaker 3>close to.

0:37:46.160 --> 0:37:49.120
<v Speaker 2>They travel for bull crap, you know what I like?

0:37:49.400 --> 0:37:52.120
<v Speaker 5>And I like them because you know why, if the

0:37:52.200 --> 0:37:54.640
<v Speaker 5>team playing bad, they're gonna let you know, you know

0:37:54.719 --> 0:37:56.359
<v Speaker 5>what I'm saying, Like we're paying money to be watching

0:37:56.400 --> 0:37:57.919
<v Speaker 5>these games, like and then.

0:37:57.880 --> 0:37:59.560
<v Speaker 2>Let's you know that. And I love them for that

0:37:59.640 --> 0:38:01.719
<v Speaker 2>because they honest you know what I'm saying, and ain't

0:38:01.760 --> 0:38:03.239
<v Speaker 2>for the bull crack. Don't be coming up very much

0:38:03.239 --> 0:38:04.919
<v Speaker 2>your little cowboys or just don't talk to ship.

0:38:05.160 --> 0:38:07.560
<v Speaker 4>Yeah you might not leave with your your jersey on.

0:38:07.719 --> 0:38:10.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah. What what was the music like in the

0:38:10.440 --> 0:38:12.040
<v Speaker 4>locker room with y'all? Because I mean, you're talking about

0:38:12.040 --> 0:38:14.920
<v Speaker 4>DeShawn Jackson obviously from the West coast, you being from

0:38:15.040 --> 0:38:18.360
<v Speaker 4>from from p a, vic being from from Virginia.

0:38:18.880 --> 0:38:20.040
<v Speaker 3>Like, what was the music like?

0:38:20.120 --> 0:38:20.160
<v Speaker 2>Like?

0:38:20.239 --> 0:38:22.120
<v Speaker 3>What was y'all listening to in the locker room?

0:38:24.160 --> 0:38:27.400
<v Speaker 5>So my personality is like, I'm like, I'm cool with everybody,

0:38:27.640 --> 0:38:29.640
<v Speaker 5>you know what I mean, country boys, white boys, black

0:38:29.680 --> 0:38:31.960
<v Speaker 5>dudes and everybody. So I was running the music for

0:38:32.080 --> 0:38:36.040
<v Speaker 5>real and everything's up north from me. I was putting

0:38:36.040 --> 0:38:39.239
<v Speaker 5>them boys on dip set on everything, and this gim

0:38:39.400 --> 0:38:42.319
<v Speaker 5>was going crazy. Yeah, oblostly whole nas.

0:38:43.560 --> 0:38:45.560
<v Speaker 2>Had I had that biggie, I had all that ship playing.

0:38:46.080 --> 0:38:48.160
<v Speaker 2>But DJ you know what, he put me on nipseason.

0:38:48.600 --> 0:38:49.799
<v Speaker 3>Okay, I married at first.

0:38:49.840 --> 0:38:53.520
<v Speaker 2>I'll say, Yo, heren't really lyrical like I like, but

0:38:53.640 --> 0:38:56.399
<v Speaker 2>he was good. He was teaching in his own way.

0:38:56.640 --> 0:38:59.200
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I remember putting on He's put me on nipset

0:38:59.200 --> 0:39:01.600
<v Speaker 5>this before he was all this. When he's telling the c's.

0:39:01.280 --> 0:39:04.240
<v Speaker 3>Out the car or I remember that creall.

0:39:05.200 --> 0:39:05.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:39:05.600 --> 0:39:08.880
<v Speaker 5>So Djack always had the West Coast sound. I remember

0:39:08.920 --> 0:39:10.680
<v Speaker 5>when with him and meet Mans had a little loud

0:39:10.760 --> 0:39:11.640
<v Speaker 5>rap a little battle.

0:39:11.800 --> 0:39:14.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I said, bro, listen.

0:39:15.360 --> 0:39:17.160
<v Speaker 5>About to come here and talk about this that she

0:39:17.280 --> 0:39:17.839
<v Speaker 5>ain't gonna win.

0:39:18.120 --> 0:39:21.239
<v Speaker 2>Don't bet because he gonna me gonna have I ain't

0:39:21.280 --> 0:39:22.759
<v Speaker 2>know who's a little stupid with at the time.

0:39:23.000 --> 0:39:24.640
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I said, he gonna have somebody in there that

0:39:24.719 --> 0:39:27.920
<v Speaker 5>can rap bat when we're gonna be mm And sure

0:39:28.000 --> 0:39:29.040
<v Speaker 5>enough his ass lost.

0:39:29.080 --> 0:39:32.080
<v Speaker 3>I told him that because you were in Philly, whin

0:39:32.160 --> 0:39:36.040
<v Speaker 3>the meeking like game beef and that whole thing was happening,

0:39:36.120 --> 0:39:39.600
<v Speaker 3>right yeh yeah, what's what's your relationship like with me?

0:39:39.760 --> 0:39:42.120
<v Speaker 3>Since she was in Philly and obviously being a native

0:39:42.160 --> 0:39:43.160
<v Speaker 3>of Pennsylvania.

0:39:43.840 --> 0:39:44.799
<v Speaker 2>No, man, he was cool.

0:39:44.880 --> 0:39:45.000
<v Speaker 3>You know.

0:39:45.880 --> 0:39:47.520
<v Speaker 5>We was the gamble hangout, you know what I'm saying,

0:39:47.560 --> 0:39:49.560
<v Speaker 5>party and all that. I just seen him at the

0:39:49.560 --> 0:39:51.359
<v Speaker 5>Super Bowl, was hanging out. That's one thing about Philly.

0:39:51.400 --> 0:39:54.920
<v Speaker 5>The all like the from the ball players, like the rappers,

0:39:54.960 --> 0:39:56.759
<v Speaker 5>we all are like, we all are one.

0:39:56.840 --> 0:40:00.560
<v Speaker 2>That's one thing I did like about Philly. Cool dude.

0:40:01.000 --> 0:40:03.399
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Now obviously the Eagles just won the Super Bowl.

0:40:03.640 --> 0:40:07.720
<v Speaker 4>H this past season. It took one of our guys

0:40:07.760 --> 0:40:10.120
<v Speaker 4>that we had, our beloved sae Quon Barkley, had to

0:40:10.160 --> 0:40:12.480
<v Speaker 4>go down to Turnpike and turn it up down there

0:40:12.760 --> 0:40:13.240
<v Speaker 4>in Philly.

0:40:13.440 --> 0:40:14.680
<v Speaker 3>I'm happy for him, happy that.

0:40:14.719 --> 0:40:16.719
<v Speaker 2>He got got a ring. That's real, that's real.

0:40:17.280 --> 0:40:20.359
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely happy for Sequon. A giant fan. I hate y'all,

0:40:20.400 --> 0:40:22.960
<v Speaker 3>but I was so happy for we get him so

0:40:23.080 --> 0:40:23.640
<v Speaker 3>fucking dirty.

0:40:23.760 --> 0:40:29.440
<v Speaker 4>Absolutely now and watching Saquon Barkley, what are some similarities

0:40:30.080 --> 0:40:32.640
<v Speaker 4>you see in you and sa Quon? And what are

0:40:32.719 --> 0:40:36.080
<v Speaker 4>some of the differences in the style between you and Saquon?

0:40:37.760 --> 0:40:39.200
<v Speaker 2>You know what, A lot of people be kind of like,

0:40:39.560 --> 0:40:39.920
<v Speaker 2>stay there.

0:40:39.960 --> 0:40:42.080
<v Speaker 5>I don't want to see a lot of similarities because, uh,

0:40:43.600 --> 0:40:44.520
<v Speaker 5>the games are different.

0:40:44.920 --> 0:40:47.040
<v Speaker 2>Like so me and him, we have a golf event

0:40:47.080 --> 0:40:50.400
<v Speaker 2>we do every year, bigger than me, you know what

0:40:50.440 --> 0:40:50.799
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying.

0:40:51.120 --> 0:40:52.719
<v Speaker 5>I think when people see him make moves all that,

0:40:52.760 --> 0:40:54.640
<v Speaker 5>and they look at my moves like, yo, them guys

0:40:54.640 --> 0:40:56.239
<v Speaker 5>are shifty, but like a lot bigger than I am,

0:40:58.280 --> 0:41:01.600
<v Speaker 5>you know. And I guess the part you would say

0:41:01.640 --> 0:41:03.400
<v Speaker 5>we are similar is like we was real nice and

0:41:03.440 --> 0:41:05.759
<v Speaker 5>we can make dudes mess and make highlights. But I

0:41:05.840 --> 0:41:07.279
<v Speaker 5>think I think we're really different. I think he got

0:41:07.280 --> 0:41:10.200
<v Speaker 5>his own style and this style is obviously working. He's

0:41:10.239 --> 0:41:12.640
<v Speaker 5>more I think he's more god gifted than I am.

0:41:13.120 --> 0:41:15.560
<v Speaker 5>You know, I come at I don't know what six

0:41:15.680 --> 0:41:18.600
<v Speaker 5>foot like two o seven. I ain't never really waits

0:41:18.719 --> 0:41:21.560
<v Speaker 5>everybodys into that where he's a dude that like he's

0:41:21.640 --> 0:41:23.880
<v Speaker 5>always been a lifter, it's always been working hard in

0:41:23.920 --> 0:41:25.920
<v Speaker 5>the gym, like I ain't really I didn't really do

0:41:26.040 --> 0:41:27.680
<v Speaker 5>none of that. And I think the way we played

0:41:27.800 --> 0:41:29.480
<v Speaker 5>was good because we both was like it's closer and

0:41:29.600 --> 0:41:30.080
<v Speaker 5>got busy.

0:41:31.120 --> 0:41:33.160
<v Speaker 2>Well, we just different. I think our styles is abt different.

0:41:33.920 --> 0:41:37.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean definitely the shiftingess once he got to

0:41:37.440 --> 0:41:40.080
<v Speaker 3>the Giants, I think it it emulated you for sure.

0:41:40.160 --> 0:41:42.520
<v Speaker 3>But because he's stocky, I don't I see what you're saying.

0:41:42.680 --> 0:41:46.279
<v Speaker 3>But y'all definitely do have a same shift as far

0:41:46.320 --> 0:41:49.120
<v Speaker 3>as how y'all move in between gaps and how y'all Like, yeah,

0:41:49.239 --> 0:41:51.280
<v Speaker 3>I see why people say it. Y'all just have different

0:41:51.400 --> 0:41:52.080
<v Speaker 3>body types.

0:41:52.760 --> 0:41:54.399
<v Speaker 2>And they're like man wo man talk like we laughed

0:41:54.400 --> 0:41:56.319
<v Speaker 2>about it. You know what I'm saying. But one thing

0:41:56.360 --> 0:41:58.399
<v Speaker 2>I do, I will say, but I know he had

0:41:58.560 --> 0:42:00.799
<v Speaker 2>this from not knowing like I know him and we.

0:42:00.800 --> 0:42:02.759
<v Speaker 5>Were talking, but it wasn't like when he came in

0:42:02.800 --> 0:42:05.000
<v Speaker 5>Philly rocking really hot at him and really be around him.

0:42:05.280 --> 0:42:09.400
<v Speaker 5>I didn't know he was that competitive, you know, like Washington,

0:42:09.440 --> 0:42:13.520
<v Speaker 5>Penn State. He looked talented Washington, the giants like you know, hm, But.

0:42:13.560 --> 0:42:15.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how competitive he was. I'm a real competitor,

0:42:15.719 --> 0:42:16.600
<v Speaker 2>like I hate to lose.

0:42:16.719 --> 0:42:19.640
<v Speaker 3>And listen, I'll tell you how competitive he is. He

0:42:19.760 --> 0:42:22.160
<v Speaker 3>beat mall and karaoke. I was at to see that

0:42:23.040 --> 0:42:25.480
<v Speaker 3>he's so competitive. He beat Mall in karaoke at a

0:42:25.480 --> 0:42:29.799
<v Speaker 3>birthday party. That's a fact, real. Yeah no, no, yeah,

0:42:29.880 --> 0:42:32.759
<v Speaker 3>he did not. He's so saying karaoke I didn't. It

0:42:32.840 --> 0:42:34.400
<v Speaker 3>wasn't because it was a competition.

0:42:34.520 --> 0:42:34.879
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't.

0:42:34.920 --> 0:42:37.640
<v Speaker 3>He smoked everybody. I did not sing at all. He

0:42:37.760 --> 0:42:40.040
<v Speaker 3>saw that karaoke mic and said, I'm smoking everybody in

0:42:40.080 --> 0:42:40.480
<v Speaker 3>the mall.

0:42:40.560 --> 0:42:40.759
<v Speaker 2>He did.

0:42:40.840 --> 0:42:41.560
<v Speaker 3>He did his thing.

0:42:43.040 --> 0:42:45.840
<v Speaker 5>To see him showing because we golf and like, I

0:42:45.840 --> 0:42:47.319
<v Speaker 5>don't really golf like that, but I talk a lot

0:42:47.360 --> 0:42:49.759
<v Speaker 5>of ship. So my team played his team, it's like

0:42:49.800 --> 0:42:51.840
<v Speaker 5>his college team, my college team, and we played and

0:42:51.920 --> 0:42:54.759
<v Speaker 5>week won, and you know I'm talking with ship, you

0:42:54.840 --> 0:42:56.480
<v Speaker 5>know what I mean? Yeah, And I can see how

0:42:56.719 --> 0:42:57.760
<v Speaker 5>I said, oh he cares.

0:42:58.120 --> 0:43:00.160
<v Speaker 2>I was just to see though, because now if you

0:43:00.160 --> 0:43:02.880
<v Speaker 2>care about little golf, you care about yeah, and he

0:43:03.000 --> 0:43:04.640
<v Speaker 2>plays like that. So I'm like to see that.

0:43:06.160 --> 0:43:09.000
<v Speaker 3>You went up to UH to Buffalo. So at minimum

0:43:09.880 --> 0:43:13.000
<v Speaker 3>twice a season you saw Bill Belichick. I have to ask,

0:43:13.200 --> 0:43:15.720
<v Speaker 3>you know, the question that's on everyone's minds football related.

0:43:15.960 --> 0:43:17.919
<v Speaker 3>Did he always give sugar Daddy vipes?

0:43:19.920 --> 0:43:22.759
<v Speaker 2>You know? No, you know what I want some Bill though,

0:43:23.360 --> 0:43:25.680
<v Speaker 2>he been so angry and mad and trying to like

0:43:25.760 --> 0:43:30.640
<v Speaker 2>when this thing is like now he now is he

0:43:30.760 --> 0:43:33.040
<v Speaker 2>He's getting his ass beat and now he's like, all right,

0:43:33.840 --> 0:43:35.960
<v Speaker 2>twenty four stuff is over. That be a enjoyed life

0:43:36.480 --> 0:43:37.560
<v Speaker 2>money I got bad.

0:43:37.840 --> 0:43:39.520
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, let me give me a little bad little twenty

0:43:39.600 --> 0:43:41.640
<v Speaker 6>five Like you know, I'm gonna do yoga on the beach,

0:43:42.960 --> 0:43:44.840
<v Speaker 6>come on, picking his shirt off and on, like.

0:43:46.760 --> 0:43:48.279
<v Speaker 3>He was wearing hoodies that were cut off.

0:43:48.360 --> 0:43:48.480
<v Speaker 2>Here.

0:43:48.920 --> 0:43:51.640
<v Speaker 3>I'm happy Bill, and finally gave build some style what

0:43:51.760 --> 0:43:52.880
<v Speaker 3>it is. But yeah, he's just a.

0:43:52.920 --> 0:43:53.560
<v Speaker 2>Never build up.

0:43:53.640 --> 0:43:56.120
<v Speaker 5>I only rock a Bill like that because like you

0:43:56.239 --> 0:43:59.239
<v Speaker 5>had Brady though, you know, how blessed that is that Brady? Yeah,

0:43:59.320 --> 0:44:02.040
<v Speaker 5>and you win it and you're still not happy with Brady.

0:44:04.719 --> 0:44:07.240
<v Speaker 5>Like what we're talking about teams with DoD to have Brady.

0:44:07.560 --> 0:44:09.719
<v Speaker 4>That's a fact. Now speaking of Brady like he ain't

0:44:09.760 --> 0:44:12.400
<v Speaker 4>nothing like what? Yeah, speaking of Brady? You you you

0:44:12.520 --> 0:44:14.320
<v Speaker 4>played damn that, I'm thinking about it. You played with

0:44:14.719 --> 0:44:18.280
<v Speaker 4>Michael Vick, You played with Pat Mahomes.

0:44:18.640 --> 0:44:22.280
<v Speaker 2>Brady and Brady. Now with those and Josh Allen.

0:44:23.040 --> 0:44:27.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, god damn now with those, with those four quarterbacks?

0:44:27.960 --> 0:44:28.080
<v Speaker 2>Right?

0:44:28.239 --> 0:44:31.240
<v Speaker 3>What are if you had him on the draft board

0:44:31.719 --> 0:44:36.640
<v Speaker 3>right down in front of you, Vic Brady, no accolades, nothing, You.

0:44:36.719 --> 0:44:38.839
<v Speaker 2>Just donald that he was nice?

0:44:39.080 --> 0:44:41.160
<v Speaker 3>God? Oh yeah, I forgot he was at the end

0:44:41.160 --> 0:44:41.320
<v Speaker 3>of that.

0:44:41.880 --> 0:44:43.480
<v Speaker 2>Real quick, I know what you're about to ask, real quick.

0:44:43.960 --> 0:44:46.719
<v Speaker 2>The last month did this. That's when Josh was the

0:44:46.800 --> 0:44:49.000
<v Speaker 2>second year, so he won't even You don't even know

0:44:49.040 --> 0:44:50.839
<v Speaker 2>who Josh Allen really was. I did I know how

0:44:50.840 --> 0:44:52.560
<v Speaker 2>good he was? Yeah? He said he was mad, And

0:44:52.680 --> 0:44:56.439
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, yo, damn dog. Yeah, I called you twice.

0:44:56.480 --> 0:44:57.320
<v Speaker 2>You texted me.

0:44:57.640 --> 0:44:59.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, he don't want to talk to you, said.

0:44:59.640 --> 0:45:03.919
<v Speaker 2>He said, Yeah, man, I see I seen your quarterback list. Yeah,

0:45:04.000 --> 0:45:08.400
<v Speaker 2>so you talk about players being Yeah, in his second year,

0:45:08.440 --> 0:45:10.040
<v Speaker 2>he won't even a star yet. He was like, Yo,

0:45:10.600 --> 0:45:11.839
<v Speaker 2>you didn't have me as elite, dude.

0:45:12.600 --> 0:45:17.520
<v Speaker 3>You had me over Brady didn't right, right, right, So

0:45:19.000 --> 0:45:21.280
<v Speaker 3>you had me over Michael Vick, who had one thousand

0:45:21.360 --> 0:45:22.040
<v Speaker 3>yards rushing.

0:45:23.200 --> 0:45:27.120
<v Speaker 4>So in all of those quarterbacks you play with, who

0:45:27.280 --> 0:45:31.319
<v Speaker 4>is the guy that if you just saw them play

0:45:31.920 --> 0:45:33.920
<v Speaker 4>no accolade, just saw them on the field, working out,

0:45:34.000 --> 0:45:36.560
<v Speaker 4>throwing the ball, who is the one you'd be like,

0:45:37.000 --> 0:45:38.800
<v Speaker 4>I want to I want him to be my quarterback.

0:45:39.520 --> 0:45:40.440
<v Speaker 3>I want to run for him.

0:45:41.360 --> 0:45:44.080
<v Speaker 2>Hold on real quick, because like that's that's the questions. Like,

0:45:45.440 --> 0:45:47.800
<v Speaker 2>so you're saying, if everybody's.

0:45:47.440 --> 0:45:49.920
<v Speaker 3>Out heard the yard, just throwing the ball, run throwing,

0:45:50.200 --> 0:45:52.000
<v Speaker 3>just running and throwing. I mean number one.

0:45:53.040 --> 0:45:55.360
<v Speaker 2>But that's hard because like football ain't just that.

0:45:55.800 --> 0:45:58.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, now, okay, I'll answer.

0:45:58.560 --> 0:46:00.560
<v Speaker 5>Your question that I'm gonna ask you. I'm gonna put

0:46:00.560 --> 0:46:02.320
<v Speaker 5>it in this in a in a scenario where like

0:46:02.400 --> 0:46:05.080
<v Speaker 5>it makes more sense for me. All right, So I

0:46:05.200 --> 0:46:11.080
<v Speaker 5>probably would take Josh Allen on all them dudes. Really,

0:46:11.080 --> 0:46:14.120
<v Speaker 5>if you just talk if your question is yo, if

0:46:14.160 --> 0:46:17.600
<v Speaker 5>you in a park, yes, dogs and cats run around

0:46:17.640 --> 0:46:20.160
<v Speaker 5>and we got a football field and you was just

0:46:20.239 --> 0:46:21.600
<v Speaker 5>throwing the ball, running and all that.

0:46:22.000 --> 0:46:25.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, it's no, but I have to get pushed

0:46:25.600 --> 0:46:28.840
<v Speaker 3>back the way Patrick Mahomes has actually changed the quarterback

0:46:28.880 --> 0:46:32.080
<v Speaker 3>position in the way he plays school yard ball in

0:46:32.760 --> 0:46:38.680
<v Speaker 3>the highest level of the NFL. Different different if you

0:46:38.840 --> 0:46:40.440
<v Speaker 3>just run around in a park. I don't know if

0:46:41.040 --> 0:46:43.800
<v Speaker 3>anyone besides Pat Mahomes might be number one period in

0:46:43.920 --> 0:46:46.040
<v Speaker 3>NFL history backyard football.

0:46:46.760 --> 0:46:49.960
<v Speaker 2>So pack the best quarterback today for sure, and I

0:46:50.000 --> 0:46:52.720
<v Speaker 2>think passed the best. Right. But when you're just talking.

0:46:52.520 --> 0:46:54.160
<v Speaker 5>About that, you just said with a T shirt on

0:46:54.320 --> 0:46:57.280
<v Speaker 5>and just throwing the ball around, running around, Josh Allen,

0:46:57.400 --> 0:46:58.400
<v Speaker 5>if you raise Michael.

0:46:58.239 --> 0:47:00.799
<v Speaker 2>Vick, Michael Vick will win. It's gonna be a close

0:47:00.880 --> 0:47:01.759
<v Speaker 2>racing what people think.

0:47:02.000 --> 0:47:03.120
<v Speaker 3>Okay, God damn okay.

0:47:03.880 --> 0:47:05.880
<v Speaker 5>When they all stand next to each other, though, Job's

0:47:05.880 --> 0:47:07.840
<v Speaker 5>gonna look way bigger than all these dudes.

0:47:08.960 --> 0:47:13.040
<v Speaker 2>All Right, he'll run you over with you in his way.

0:47:13.200 --> 0:47:14.600
<v Speaker 5>He might make you miss it. You in his way,

0:47:14.719 --> 0:47:16.759
<v Speaker 5>he toughest nails. And then we're gonna tell who had

0:47:16.760 --> 0:47:21.600
<v Speaker 5>the stroller's arm. Now, he probably got the stroller's arm

0:47:21.760 --> 0:47:23.759
<v Speaker 5>probly out of him. And Pat, I remember when I

0:47:24.000 --> 0:47:25.759
<v Speaker 5>when I was when I went to Kansity, was talking

0:47:25.760 --> 0:47:27.440
<v Speaker 5>to Pat about just you know, quarterbacks and all that,

0:47:28.200 --> 0:47:30.680
<v Speaker 5>and I'm an instagarious I might have brought it up

0:47:30.680 --> 0:47:32.319
<v Speaker 5>to him and he was like, well, I'll probably never

0:47:32.360 --> 0:47:34.799
<v Speaker 5>do like a throw off with Josh because it's iced

0:47:34.840 --> 0:47:37.080
<v Speaker 5>to lose, lose because it's like, yo, I'm supposed to win,

0:47:37.760 --> 0:47:40.080
<v Speaker 5>but Pat got a or Josh got a crazy arm,

0:47:40.160 --> 0:47:41.960
<v Speaker 5>so he'll be close either.

0:47:42.120 --> 0:47:42.520
<v Speaker 2>You cut it.

0:47:43.560 --> 0:47:46.200
<v Speaker 5>Now, that's one part of it. Now we just said, yo,

0:47:46.840 --> 0:47:51.480
<v Speaker 5>I'm in the on a football team, and the intelligence,

0:47:51.920 --> 0:47:55.440
<v Speaker 5>the winning, all that stuff with quarterbacks do matters. Then

0:47:55.520 --> 0:47:58.520
<v Speaker 5>the first dude off the table is Tom because he

0:47:58.600 --> 0:48:01.600
<v Speaker 5>can't run a lick and he's burning Everybody's smarter than

0:48:01.640 --> 0:48:03.920
<v Speaker 5>everybody knows the dude, and he's a competitor.

0:48:04.520 --> 0:48:05.839
<v Speaker 2>That that mother right there.

0:48:07.800 --> 0:48:09.359
<v Speaker 5>So I would go with Tom, and then I would

0:48:09.360 --> 0:48:12.040
<v Speaker 5>probably go with past second, and then I would go

0:48:13.600 --> 0:48:17.799
<v Speaker 5>Alan third, and then fourth would be uh prime, Vic.

0:48:19.160 --> 0:48:19.359
<v Speaker 2>Damn.

0:48:19.400 --> 0:48:20.080
<v Speaker 3>I would have thrown.

0:48:20.160 --> 0:48:22.080
<v Speaker 4>Vic would have been up higher like on the list,

0:48:22.120 --> 0:48:25.680
<v Speaker 4>because I mean just remember Michael Vick playing obviously a

0:48:25.760 --> 0:48:28.600
<v Speaker 4>great runner, great athlete, but I think Vic's arm was

0:48:28.840 --> 0:48:30.120
<v Speaker 4>really underrated for.

0:48:30.160 --> 0:48:32.279
<v Speaker 3>A lot of years, a lot of years.

0:48:32.280 --> 0:48:34.759
<v Speaker 4>I think Michael Vick as a passer was was very

0:48:34.840 --> 0:48:36.640
<v Speaker 4>underrated because coming in it was like, you know, this guy,

0:48:36.719 --> 0:48:38.960
<v Speaker 4>he breaks the pocket, but he can go and get

0:48:39.000 --> 0:48:40.960
<v Speaker 4>you a first down, get you a touchdown. But then

0:48:41.000 --> 0:48:43.600
<v Speaker 4>when he you know, when his later years, it's like, okay,

0:48:43.640 --> 0:48:45.080
<v Speaker 4>I can't really just get out of this pocket and

0:48:45.120 --> 0:48:45.640
<v Speaker 4>start running.

0:48:45.760 --> 0:48:48.160
<v Speaker 2>I think it was better with the English I was saying.

0:48:48.360 --> 0:48:50.200
<v Speaker 3>In Philly, I think he proved that point way more

0:48:50.239 --> 0:48:50.960
<v Speaker 3>than he did in Atlanta.

0:48:51.080 --> 0:48:52.600
<v Speaker 4>Well he I mean he had he had to Shawn

0:48:52.640 --> 0:48:56.799
<v Speaker 4>out there running every fucking going defense play like throw

0:48:56.840 --> 0:48:57.840
<v Speaker 4>that s going to.

0:48:57.800 --> 0:49:00.200
<v Speaker 5>Get because I always want to hear like people's it's

0:49:00.200 --> 0:49:02.920
<v Speaker 5>not ball players. So so you you would, So you're

0:49:02.920 --> 0:49:06.320
<v Speaker 5>telling me you would take Mike over Hu though you

0:49:06.360 --> 0:49:06.800
<v Speaker 5>said you'll be.

0:49:07.320 --> 0:49:09.160
<v Speaker 4>If I'm looking at that, if I had those four,

0:49:09.840 --> 0:49:15.520
<v Speaker 4>I'm thinking I probably would either go Mike Vic or

0:49:15.520 --> 0:49:16.680
<v Speaker 4>Pat Mahomes first.

0:49:17.600 --> 0:49:20.919
<v Speaker 3>One of those two, I would go Pat, Mike Josh

0:49:21.000 --> 0:49:24.279
<v Speaker 3>Allen Brady as far as in the park school yard

0:49:24.600 --> 0:49:27.280
<v Speaker 3>football Park, Yeah, no, the all time.

0:49:27.160 --> 0:49:28.960
<v Speaker 2>And Brady is sorry, I think the rank is on

0:49:29.000 --> 0:49:31.600
<v Speaker 2>the football park on football.

0:49:31.680 --> 0:49:32.960
<v Speaker 3>I mean Brady is first to me.

0:49:33.200 --> 0:49:35.879
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so so, oh, I'm sorry, that's my bed. Okay,

0:49:35.920 --> 0:49:39.080
<v Speaker 5>so we say in the park, Yeah, okay, John should

0:49:39.080 --> 0:49:39.799
<v Speaker 5>be first in the park.

0:49:41.200 --> 0:49:45.000
<v Speaker 2>Then I'm going with Mahomes, then Vic than Brady. Okay,

0:49:45.040 --> 0:49:48.040
<v Speaker 2>because Mahomes, like you said, Mahlmes be looking left. He

0:49:48.040 --> 0:49:51.040
<v Speaker 2>would throw that thing right and be accurate. Yeah. And

0:49:51.200 --> 0:49:54.680
<v Speaker 2>he's more lucive than what people think. They see his stomach,

0:49:54.760 --> 0:49:57.960
<v Speaker 2>They see how I talked like he ain't patter athlete.

0:49:58.080 --> 0:50:01.759
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, no, he just the way he'd be doing

0:50:01.800 --> 0:50:04.960
<v Speaker 3>the shovel passes for thirty yards is the crazy shit

0:50:04.960 --> 0:50:05.440
<v Speaker 3>I've ever seen.

0:50:05.600 --> 0:50:08.920
<v Speaker 5>Like that's and he's a competitor. I watched this time

0:50:08.960 --> 0:50:10.840
<v Speaker 5>we had attacked. I won't even say his name, but

0:50:10.880 --> 0:50:13.200
<v Speaker 5>he was really good. And every day of the week

0:50:13.200 --> 0:50:14.960
<v Speaker 5>he kept checking on like, yo, is he gonna play?

0:50:15.200 --> 0:50:16.319
<v Speaker 2>Is he gonna play? Every day?

0:50:18.239 --> 0:50:20.239
<v Speaker 5>Well we get to the last day is Friday. If

0:50:20.280 --> 0:50:23.000
<v Speaker 5>you really don't make the injury report, then you won't play.

0:50:23.000 --> 0:50:25.560
<v Speaker 5>You know what I'm saying, Man, Pat walking down ship,

0:50:25.640 --> 0:50:28.719
<v Speaker 5>he said, is he playing? They the doctors and the

0:50:29.080 --> 0:50:31.120
<v Speaker 5>players started like mumbling like kind of you know, give

0:50:31.160 --> 0:50:33.680
<v Speaker 5>me some jumbo, saying a lot, but not saying nothing.

0:50:33.840 --> 0:50:35.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he said, he said.

0:50:35.400 --> 0:50:42.399
<v Speaker 2>Fuck met him. Yeah, and he won as a running

0:50:42.400 --> 0:50:44.400
<v Speaker 2>real quick TV don't show you that part though, right,

0:50:44.480 --> 0:50:45.399
<v Speaker 2>ye dog?

0:50:45.760 --> 0:50:50.799
<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, as as a running back, being with those

0:50:51.440 --> 0:50:54.000
<v Speaker 3>legendary quarterbacks, do you think that was an advantage or

0:50:54.080 --> 0:50:57.920
<v Speaker 3>disadvantage as far as maybe the defense was focused more

0:50:57.960 --> 0:51:00.920
<v Speaker 3>on the past, so giving the the you was easier,

0:51:01.400 --> 0:51:03.160
<v Speaker 3>or the fact that hey, we're just focusing on the

0:51:03.200 --> 0:51:03.719
<v Speaker 3>passing game.

0:51:04.280 --> 0:51:04.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:51:04.560 --> 0:51:06.319
<v Speaker 5>So I'll say this though, you know, I wasn't really

0:51:06.360 --> 0:51:08.040
<v Speaker 5>blessed to play them dudes in my prime prime. So

0:51:08.080 --> 0:51:11.000
<v Speaker 5>I played with uh, I played with Pat and Tom

0:51:11.120 --> 0:51:14.400
<v Speaker 5>at the last two years of my career, right. And

0:51:14.560 --> 0:51:16.680
<v Speaker 5>then when I played with Josh, he was a rookie

0:51:16.760 --> 0:51:17.880
<v Speaker 5>so like he he.

0:51:18.000 --> 0:51:20.920
<v Speaker 3>Was talented, but he wanted good still respect though.

0:51:21.520 --> 0:51:26.480
<v Speaker 5>And then when I played with a Mike, I see

0:51:26.600 --> 0:51:28.480
<v Speaker 5>the mic thing was weird because Mike was good, but

0:51:28.600 --> 0:51:30.480
<v Speaker 5>like it should have ran through me because I was

0:51:30.560 --> 0:51:32.000
<v Speaker 5>I was the one that was making all first team,

0:51:32.040 --> 0:51:32.560
<v Speaker 5>all prosy.

0:51:32.760 --> 0:51:34.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, showing they they weren't doing that. It was good,

0:51:34.800 --> 0:51:36.719
<v Speaker 2>but they weren't doing that right, And we would throw

0:51:36.760 --> 0:51:40.560
<v Speaker 2>the ball so much. Well, now you might get a

0:51:40.600 --> 0:51:42.440
<v Speaker 2>pick or two or fumble or you know what I mean,

0:51:42.680 --> 0:51:44.400
<v Speaker 2>me throwing it so much? If you look at how

0:51:44.400 --> 0:51:45.120
<v Speaker 2>they used Lamar and.

0:51:45.160 --> 0:51:49.040
<v Speaker 5>Jackson, they ran the ball a lot with Derrick Henry

0:51:49.320 --> 0:51:51.360
<v Speaker 5>and they let Lamar run a little bit. But he

0:51:51.400 --> 0:51:54.560
<v Speaker 5>ain't throwing it like thirty sometimes a game, right, we was,

0:51:54.760 --> 0:51:56.440
<v Speaker 5>we was throwing the ball with Mike like like it

0:51:56.600 --> 0:51:59.400
<v Speaker 5>was like it was payment or or you know what

0:51:59.440 --> 0:52:01.600
<v Speaker 5>I'm saying. And it's not just to him, but it's

0:52:01.640 --> 0:52:04.560
<v Speaker 5>like his game is he can throw the ball, but

0:52:04.640 --> 0:52:06.160
<v Speaker 5>he can run too, Like why are we gonna make

0:52:06.239 --> 0:52:07.840
<v Speaker 5>him do all that throwing?

0:52:08.200 --> 0:52:08.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:52:08.880 --> 0:52:10.879
<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean, did you see a difference with Andy

0:52:11.000 --> 0:52:14.759
<v Speaker 3>Reid in Philly versus KC? Like what was the difference there?

0:52:16.000 --> 0:52:19.160
<v Speaker 5>So so he didn't call plays in Philadelphia, you know

0:52:19.160 --> 0:52:20.719
<v Speaker 5>what I'm saying, He just looked over everything where he

0:52:20.760 --> 0:52:23.040
<v Speaker 5>called plays in Kansas City. I remember saying, tell him

0:52:23.040 --> 0:52:25.200
<v Speaker 5>like yo ah, these exciting plays you got why you

0:52:25.239 --> 0:52:26.839
<v Speaker 5>ain't cost when I was there? So he didn't really

0:52:26.920 --> 0:52:30.840
<v Speaker 5>call plays, yeah you know. But but then again, like

0:52:31.000 --> 0:52:34.480
<v Speaker 5>Mike's skills set different from Pats, yeah you know, and

0:52:34.520 --> 0:52:35.799
<v Speaker 5>then sometimes being honest, like.

0:52:37.480 --> 0:52:38.440
<v Speaker 2>If Pats thrown it.

0:52:39.920 --> 0:52:41.680
<v Speaker 5>Thirty eight forty times, like he might get a pick

0:52:41.680 --> 0:52:44.319
<v Speaker 5>because he'll throw some picks too, Like like you got

0:52:44.400 --> 0:52:46.279
<v Speaker 5>to be a certain type of talent to do all

0:52:46.320 --> 0:52:49.719
<v Speaker 5>that unless you're throwing like bubble screens or you know,

0:52:49.880 --> 0:52:50.560
<v Speaker 5>safe passes.

0:52:51.080 --> 0:52:53.359
<v Speaker 2>Peyton Manny's and Tom they can do that shit.

0:52:53.640 --> 0:52:56.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. Now, we just had the

0:52:56.520 --> 0:52:58.719
<v Speaker 3>We just had the NFL Draft and.

0:53:00.239 --> 0:53:02.600
<v Speaker 4>You know, obviously the talk of the night with Shador

0:53:03.120 --> 0:53:06.840
<v Speaker 4>slide into the fifth round as somebody that's you know,

0:53:06.920 --> 0:53:10.240
<v Speaker 4>obviously been in that position yourself, what was your thoughts

0:53:11.520 --> 0:53:13.640
<v Speaker 4>in that moment, like as far as just being a player,

0:53:13.719 --> 0:53:15.239
<v Speaker 4>Like going back to that moment of you being on

0:53:15.320 --> 0:53:17.320
<v Speaker 4>the board and waiting to hear your name call, Like

0:53:17.400 --> 0:53:19.000
<v Speaker 4>did you number one, did you think you do it

0:53:19.040 --> 0:53:21.800
<v Speaker 4>would slide that that far down in the draft? And

0:53:21.960 --> 0:53:24.480
<v Speaker 4>number two? Do you do you think it's more a

0:53:24.600 --> 0:53:28.399
<v Speaker 4>political thing or maybe as a as a player. I'm

0:53:28.440 --> 0:53:31.480
<v Speaker 4>just I'm asking the players, do you feel like you've

0:53:31.520 --> 0:53:34.960
<v Speaker 4>seen something that should do where he's not quite ready

0:53:35.040 --> 0:53:36.600
<v Speaker 4>or what y'all think he is yet?

0:53:36.840 --> 0:53:39.239
<v Speaker 2>Yo, man, Like we could do this, but y'all know

0:53:39.280 --> 0:53:41.120
<v Speaker 2>what's going on. Y'all know what's going That's when you

0:53:41.160 --> 0:53:44.719
<v Speaker 2>asked a question that was yeah, that was crazy, bro.

0:53:45.480 --> 0:53:47.640
<v Speaker 5>Then like, now you got a player on your team

0:53:47.719 --> 0:53:51.440
<v Speaker 5>that you took in the third round, quarterback. Yeah, did

0:53:51.480 --> 0:53:54.200
<v Speaker 5>everybody know you're not even good at your door in

0:53:54.360 --> 0:53:57.279
<v Speaker 5>the fifth round? Like so, if let's say it was

0:53:57.320 --> 0:53:58.840
<v Speaker 5>as good as your thought he was, and maybe he

0:53:59.400 --> 0:54:01.279
<v Speaker 5>thought he's burning, what he is is dads, dion. So

0:54:01.680 --> 0:54:04.160
<v Speaker 5>everybody also gonna fee like they better, you know, because

0:54:04.160 --> 0:54:06.279
<v Speaker 5>that's what don and it starts in his kids, like

0:54:06.760 --> 0:54:08.560
<v Speaker 5>you order ship, which is not wrong with that?

0:54:08.880 --> 0:54:12.799
<v Speaker 2>Right? Well, y'all telling me a fifth round draft figure? Right?

0:54:12.960 --> 0:54:15.200
<v Speaker 2>So check this out. So I've been playing ball a

0:54:15.239 --> 0:54:15.680
<v Speaker 2>long time.

0:54:16.960 --> 0:54:23.359
<v Speaker 5>I've never heard a coach or franchise come out and say, well,

0:54:23.360 --> 0:54:25.200
<v Speaker 5>we got a third round draft pick we drafted, we

0:54:25.280 --> 0:54:27.839
<v Speaker 5>got a fifth round draft pick we got we got

0:54:27.880 --> 0:54:31.200
<v Speaker 5>an old ast quarterback and Joe Flacco who's like forty,

0:54:31.239 --> 0:54:32.200
<v Speaker 5>Ce's like oldest the older.

0:54:32.239 --> 0:54:35.120
<v Speaker 2>All of a sudden, it's on this call for the zone, right,

0:54:35.320 --> 0:54:38.960
<v Speaker 2>and then you got a young quarterback that struggled in

0:54:39.000 --> 0:54:43.880
<v Speaker 2>his career, but he made some splashes in Philadelphia, but

0:54:43.920 --> 0:54:48.120
<v Speaker 2>in Pittsburgh he wasn't that good. Okay, they said, you know,

0:54:48.120 --> 0:54:48.719
<v Speaker 2>what we're gonna do.

0:54:49.200 --> 0:54:50.960
<v Speaker 5>They told the whole world, is the whole you know,

0:54:51.120 --> 0:54:53.640
<v Speaker 5>the media, that we're gonna split the rets from the

0:54:53.719 --> 0:54:55.359
<v Speaker 5>first team and the second team.

0:54:57.000 --> 0:54:59.360
<v Speaker 2>Now since I've been playing, it don't happen like that.

0:55:00.200 --> 0:55:02.880
<v Speaker 5>The starter gets the number one reps, the back of

0:55:02.960 --> 0:55:06.080
<v Speaker 5>gets the number two reps. The third and fifth round

0:55:06.200 --> 0:55:08.600
<v Speaker 5>draft pick. That's in football, that's not that's nothing. That's

0:55:08.719 --> 0:55:12.160
<v Speaker 5>like fifth round there, there's nothing. You know, you won't

0:55:12.239 --> 0:55:14.040
<v Speaker 5>let the fifth rounder get some second team reps in

0:55:14.080 --> 0:55:15.759
<v Speaker 5>the fifth in the first team reps, normally they go

0:55:15.840 --> 0:55:18.960
<v Speaker 5>with the fourth string, third string. So they'll let you

0:55:19.160 --> 0:55:22.760
<v Speaker 5>know that everybody in this room we got are Eagle

0:55:22.880 --> 0:55:26.799
<v Speaker 5>for real, and that he could potentially start because he's

0:55:26.840 --> 0:55:27.440
<v Speaker 5>a fifth rounder.

0:55:27.440 --> 0:55:30.719
<v Speaker 2>He shouldn't even be taking no Number one reps. So

0:55:30.840 --> 0:55:33.080
<v Speaker 2>y'all did all that bullshit with the draft.

0:55:33.640 --> 0:55:36.080
<v Speaker 5>M h to have your fifth round draft pick now

0:55:36.239 --> 0:55:38.800
<v Speaker 5>be taking number second teen reps and first team reps.

0:55:39.239 --> 0:55:40.399
<v Speaker 2>They tell me how that makes sense?

0:55:41.239 --> 0:55:43.960
<v Speaker 5>That what that was was, listen, got this young black

0:55:44.040 --> 0:55:47.719
<v Speaker 5>kid who don't need the pros. That's calming down a

0:55:47.760 --> 0:55:48.560
<v Speaker 5>little bit, a little.

0:55:48.360 --> 0:55:49.000
<v Speaker 2>Bit too cocky.

0:55:49.080 --> 0:55:51.399
<v Speaker 3>The ego check, Yeah, ego check.

0:55:52.520 --> 0:55:53.399
<v Speaker 2>I didn't like that ship.

0:55:54.080 --> 0:55:55.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I thought that. I thought that it was.

0:55:55.480 --> 0:55:57.600
<v Speaker 4>It was crazy only because when you start looking around

0:55:57.680 --> 0:55:59.719
<v Speaker 4>and look at all the analysts and where they had him,

0:56:00.160 --> 0:56:02.600
<v Speaker 4>and look at all the mock drafts, like I think

0:56:02.680 --> 0:56:04.359
<v Speaker 4>the lowest I saw it was like they had him

0:56:04.400 --> 0:56:08.440
<v Speaker 4>like late first, early second. But now when you get

0:56:08.480 --> 0:56:12.160
<v Speaker 4>to third, fourth, everybody's like, Okay, clearly this isn't you know,

0:56:12.280 --> 0:56:13.920
<v Speaker 4>they going that coach prime.

0:56:14.800 --> 0:56:17.560
<v Speaker 3>You know, they don't like it. As politics things like that.

0:56:18.440 --> 0:56:20.680
<v Speaker 4>Even the president, even Donald Trump chim did on that

0:56:20.760 --> 0:56:22.680
<v Speaker 4>and was like, like, people are just stupid.

0:56:22.719 --> 0:56:23.279
<v Speaker 3>There's no way.

0:56:23.760 --> 0:56:26.280
<v Speaker 4>His dad is a great player, DNA, he's a champion,

0:56:26.360 --> 0:56:28.959
<v Speaker 4>he's a street smart and all these things. Donald Trump

0:56:29.040 --> 0:56:31.040
<v Speaker 4>was saying. He was like, there's no way that you

0:56:31.200 --> 0:56:33.399
<v Speaker 4>do is saying it should be a fifth round draft pick.

0:56:35.000 --> 0:56:37.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that was crazy. Before we get out of here.

0:56:38.600 --> 0:56:40.560
<v Speaker 3>Top five Philly Rappers of all time?

0:56:41.640 --> 0:56:46.680
<v Speaker 2>Oh uh? Top five?

0:56:47.120 --> 0:56:51.200
<v Speaker 3>Top five, I'm gonna go.

0:56:54.760 --> 0:56:58.520
<v Speaker 2>Damn. The hard part is because I'm a meek fan.

0:56:58.560 --> 0:57:00.839
<v Speaker 2>I love meat though I guess too, but I got

0:57:01.200 --> 0:57:04.560
<v Speaker 2>but see I love seagull. That's a tough one, yo,

0:57:04.719 --> 0:57:06.759
<v Speaker 2>that's a tough one. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go

0:57:06.840 --> 0:57:11.200
<v Speaker 2>with mm hmm h.

0:57:11.719 --> 0:57:13.520
<v Speaker 3>Philly has a lot a lot of split out of

0:57:13.560 --> 0:57:15.080
<v Speaker 3>rappers in Philly, I know.

0:57:15.200 --> 0:57:17.320
<v Speaker 5>But I'm just talking about that. That that so I

0:57:17.360 --> 0:57:18.160
<v Speaker 5>guess number one.

0:57:19.120 --> 0:57:19.560
<v Speaker 2>I will go.

0:57:19.800 --> 0:57:26.560
<v Speaker 5>Uh, I'm gonna go meet Meles, you know him and

0:57:26.680 --> 0:57:28.200
<v Speaker 5>him See was a tough one though, ain't. That's a

0:57:28.240 --> 0:57:28.760
<v Speaker 5>tough one for me.

0:57:28.880 --> 0:57:30.320
<v Speaker 2>This for me, that's a tough one. I'm gonna go.

0:57:30.520 --> 0:57:36.840
<v Speaker 5>Uh, I'm gonna go being second right, I'm gonna go.

0:57:41.600 --> 0:57:44.880
<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna go Cassie third, Okay, no matter that.

0:57:45.720 --> 0:57:48.120
<v Speaker 2>I love cast. Like you're talking about battle rap, he's

0:57:48.120 --> 0:57:53.520
<v Speaker 2>the first one throwing on you know. Hm, that's three four.

0:57:53.520 --> 0:57:57.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go. It's gonna suck you up a little bit,

0:57:57.080 --> 0:58:00.200
<v Speaker 2>but I'm gonna go. Uh, I'm gonna e.

0:58:01.360 --> 0:58:02.760
<v Speaker 3>I'm not mad at that at all. I'm not mad

0:58:02.800 --> 0:58:05.760
<v Speaker 3>at that. I was just having a conversation. I'm not

0:58:05.920 --> 0:58:09.040
<v Speaker 3>mad at that. Eve has my favorite voice of a

0:58:09.080 --> 0:58:12.040
<v Speaker 3>female rapper. Just her voice, to me, is the best

0:58:12.080 --> 0:58:13.560
<v Speaker 3>female rap voice her.

0:58:14.160 --> 0:58:17.760
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I'm not go to New York, but yeah, I'm

0:58:17.760 --> 0:58:21.360
<v Speaker 5>gonna go fifth on. I guess I'm buying because I

0:58:21.440 --> 0:58:23.160
<v Speaker 5>like some of the people. I like, you know, you

0:58:23.280 --> 0:58:27.320
<v Speaker 5>go free, but I'm gonna go Uh, I'm gonna go

0:58:27.400 --> 0:58:27.840
<v Speaker 5>Young Chris.

0:58:28.560 --> 0:58:30.880
<v Speaker 4>I'm not mad at that at all. Definitely not mad

0:58:31.640 --> 0:58:33.320
<v Speaker 4>that makes sense to me. Definitely not mad at that.

0:58:33.480 --> 0:58:35.240
<v Speaker 4>I love I love with him and Roder. Him and

0:58:35.280 --> 0:58:37.840
<v Speaker 4>Roder put out they tape one of my favorite tapes.

0:58:37.960 --> 0:58:42.240
<v Speaker 3>Chris, Chris, He's gonna bene, He's gonna He's gonna always

0:58:42.280 --> 0:58:44.360
<v Speaker 3>be an elite, elite rapper.

0:58:44.400 --> 0:58:47.280
<v Speaker 2>I love Young real quick because you're outsider. Was you

0:58:47.560 --> 0:58:50.800
<v Speaker 2>had being me first over me?

0:58:51.520 --> 0:58:55.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Yeah, Being's one of my favorite rappers ever. Yeah.

0:58:56.000 --> 0:59:01.160
<v Speaker 4>Ship Yeah, the Becoming, the Reason, the Truth, like those albums,

0:59:01.440 --> 0:59:01.800
<v Speaker 4>it's just.

0:59:01.920 --> 0:59:04.720
<v Speaker 3>Like Time and two with my age, Like Beans was

0:59:04.760 --> 0:59:07.640
<v Speaker 3>the one for me. But I mean I would even

0:59:07.720 --> 0:59:11.160
<v Speaker 3>put on some like rap Nerdy Ship Black Thought has

0:59:11.240 --> 0:59:15.840
<v Speaker 3>to be in that conversation, even close to like a number,

0:59:16.040 --> 0:59:17.880
<v Speaker 3>like you could make a case that he would be

0:59:17.880 --> 0:59:21.040
<v Speaker 3>the number one rapper, rapper, rapper from Philly told him

0:59:21.040 --> 0:59:24.000
<v Speaker 3>just technically rapper. Yeah, but I mean I would put Beans.

0:59:24.320 --> 0:59:30.960
<v Speaker 3>I put Beans one, Black Thought two, uh three, I

0:59:31.000 --> 0:59:34.360
<v Speaker 3>would I probably put this is my personal ship Freeway

0:59:36.560 --> 0:59:44.280
<v Speaker 3>Unique would be four Ship five. It's funny you said

0:59:44.280 --> 0:59:50.120
<v Speaker 3>young Chris because that he's kind of like he's right there.

0:59:50.240 --> 0:59:53.240
<v Speaker 3>He got me doubt I probably put Chris right there too.

0:59:54.560 --> 0:59:57.120
<v Speaker 3>I'd actually, as far as rapping, I probably prefer Chris

0:59:57.200 --> 1:00:00.080
<v Speaker 3>over Cassidy. But I feel like that's disrespectful because that

1:00:00.160 --> 1:00:03.160
<v Speaker 3>I'm a hustler album. Like, it's kind of fucked up

1:00:03.200 --> 1:00:04.600
<v Speaker 3>to not put Cassidy in the top five.

1:00:04.840 --> 1:00:08.400
<v Speaker 2>And I like, like, like I like the bars.

1:00:08.440 --> 1:00:11.800
<v Speaker 5>I'm a bar dude, but also like when you leave

1:00:11.800 --> 1:00:15.240
<v Speaker 5>Philadelphia and you go to Houston or you go to wherever,

1:00:15.800 --> 1:00:18.640
<v Speaker 5>like some people represent to see the right way, you

1:00:18.720 --> 1:00:21.200
<v Speaker 5>know what I mean? Yeah, cast he was one of

1:00:21.200 --> 1:00:23.680
<v Speaker 5>them dudes that Yo, my Philly should people want to know,

1:00:24.520 --> 1:00:26.120
<v Speaker 5>you know, because stuff I done did so I think

1:00:26.120 --> 1:00:27.680
<v Speaker 5>about all that, like the production.

1:00:27.400 --> 1:00:29.280
<v Speaker 2>Party in the actual bars.

1:00:29.440 --> 1:00:31.360
<v Speaker 3>You know, well, y'all are disrespectful because no one brought

1:00:31.400 --> 1:00:40.000
<v Speaker 3>up Will Smith Listen, I love, I love say like,

1:00:40.280 --> 1:00:41.200
<v Speaker 3>y'all disrespectful.

1:00:42.160 --> 1:00:44.240
<v Speaker 2>You know. You know what I'm gonna tell you, Gilly

1:00:44.320 --> 1:00:46.160
<v Speaker 2>this ship Gilly, Like, yo, why did I make that? Yeah?

1:00:46.160 --> 1:00:49.480
<v Speaker 3>Gilly definitely gonna be put no disrespect on Gilly's name

1:00:49.480 --> 1:00:53.240
<v Speaker 3>because especially we're going back to my era with beans

1:00:53.280 --> 1:00:55.640
<v Speaker 3>A like Gilly's mixtapes was our ship in high school.

1:00:55.960 --> 1:00:58.360
<v Speaker 3>Gilly is definitely in that conversation. I wouldn't even be

1:00:58.480 --> 1:01:01.520
<v Speaker 3>mad with the young Chris versus Gilly. Gilly is up there.

1:01:01.720 --> 1:01:03.640
<v Speaker 3>I don't want to expect Gilly Gilly.

1:01:04.200 --> 1:01:05.920
<v Speaker 4>I go really like, if you're going Gilly, I'm going

1:01:06.040 --> 1:01:09.800
<v Speaker 4>Dutch in Spade like I go into that type of Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I go yeah, I go into that like y'all go

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<v Speaker 4>old skiing O.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 4>I go into like that type of Philly hell yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, he Nets right now is going crack. He

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<v Speaker 4>put out a freestyle every other week. He going crazy,

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<v Speaker 4>but he don't have it's the music.

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<v Speaker 3>He don't have the songs. Yeah, they're just not going.

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<v Speaker 3>But he Nets for sure is up there. He deserves no, definitely,

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<v Speaker 3>that's still he's still rapping. He's still going crazy. I

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<v Speaker 3>mean they never really raped Philly like that. But corrupt

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<v Speaker 3>and left eye, I feel like need to be somewhat.

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<v Speaker 4>In a corrupt Never he'll never say Philly now he

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<v Speaker 4>do every now and then. Yeah, Yeah he let people know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>he let people know.

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<v Speaker 3>He for Philly for sure, but left eye think needs

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<v Speaker 3>to be in that conversation as well, even though she

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<v Speaker 3>landed with TLC.

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<v Speaker 4>Ship but she did Philly. Yeah, absolutely shady. Before we

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<v Speaker 4>let you go, what is your prediction this year for.

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<v Speaker 3>The Super Bowl? Who's taking it all? The ship?

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<v Speaker 2>The Eagles?

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<v Speaker 3>Well next year, well let.

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<v Speaker 2>It by y'all man from New York, saquon back at

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<v Speaker 2>it you.

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<v Speaker 3>Then they gonna do it again, go back to back.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, they team that same team.

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<v Speaker 4>Man, case gonna be I think CAC gonna be right there,

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<v Speaker 4>Buffalo gonna be right there again.

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<v Speaker 2>I think either case buffal that play. But the Eagle

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<v Speaker 2>team too good? Bro?

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<v Speaker 3>What what's wrong in Buffalo? Like, what's going on? Why

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<v Speaker 3>has Buffalo not made it there?

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<v Speaker 2>Let me tell you why?

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<v Speaker 1>Bro?

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<v Speaker 2>You play the Jugger Knouts every year? Yeah? If they?

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<v Speaker 5>If the Bills play in the NFC, they at the

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<v Speaker 5>Super Bowl every year like the Chiefs. It's hard to

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<v Speaker 5>be Patrins and Andy Reid. Andy read the best coaching

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<v Speaker 5>football of all time?

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<v Speaker 2>Bro?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yes, you gotta go out. Well, but you

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<v Speaker 3>got him over Bill.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Now look now you can't say that.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me tell you.

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<v Speaker 5>Let me bring Now that's some good football for y'all right, okay,

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<v Speaker 5>So like people be conditioned, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>Like I don't care how great any player does, nobody

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<v Speaker 5>would be buried at MJ.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how people look at it, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>This is what it is.

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<v Speaker 5>Belichick got that same thing. When Belichick didn't have Brady,

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<v Speaker 5>he was trash.

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<v Speaker 2>Hm. People people only act like he's only coach for

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<v Speaker 2>the Patriots. That's not true. He had other coaching jobs.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait, no, no, no, no, I'm giving pushed back because

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<v Speaker 3>he was a defensive coordinator in Cleveland. He was with

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<v Speaker 3>the Giants and some other random assistant he when Bledsoe

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<v Speaker 3>went down. Let's not act like the Patriots was ass

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<v Speaker 3>like Belichick was there for what two years a year

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<v Speaker 3>in three games before Brady was there and took a

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<v Speaker 3>back up and did that. Like, let's not and always

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<v Speaker 3>had never had good personnel until Randy Moore showed up.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell what this want to do for you?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Like you give a pushback. I like that. I tell

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<v Speaker 2>my son that I like I like that. Don't use

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<v Speaker 2>some homework. Some homework. Right when we leave this interview, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna get your info. We're gonna talk again.

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<v Speaker 5>So he was the head coach before he got to

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<v Speaker 5>the Patriots. That's some horwor for you to look at.

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<v Speaker 5>And if you look at at homework, he wasn't a winner.

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<v Speaker 2>He was a loser there. Okay.

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<v Speaker 5>Then you when you get to the Patriots right before

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<v Speaker 5>you had Tom Brady, and after you had Tom.

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<v Speaker 2>Brady, right, you're not even five hundred winning.

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<v Speaker 5>Coach that team, and last name, soon Brady leaves, right,

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<v Speaker 5>you limp your way to the playoffs, you get smoked

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<v Speaker 5>by thirty five points to a team you played twice

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<v Speaker 5>a year, and then after that you like one of

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<v Speaker 5>the worst teams in football. So with Andy Reid, no

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<v Speaker 5>matter where you dropping at, no matter where whose quarterback is,

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<v Speaker 5>he always gonna be a good coach.

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<v Speaker 2>We always gonna win. Before he got to the Chiefs,

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<v Speaker 2>they won three games, bro same motherfucking team. Same team.

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<v Speaker 2>Then the next year they go to the playoffs. And

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<v Speaker 2>now the Chiefs is what they are. The Eagles. Before

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<v Speaker 2>he got to the Eagles, they was trash. First year

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<v Speaker 2>he went five and five five and he went five

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<v Speaker 2>games five eleven, Then year after that eleven and five playoffs, playoffs, playoffs.

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<v Speaker 2>I just hate when we compare them dudes, and the

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<v Speaker 2>last season broke last night. So you know, Bill, dude,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>Right, Andy Reid's the officive quarterback type of dude, so

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<v Speaker 5>I can develop players. I think Patrome was phenomenal. I

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<v Speaker 5>personally don't think that pat would be that without aim.

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<v Speaker 5>I think he'll be really really good. I don't think

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<v Speaker 5>he'd be that everywhere. Any and he goes to quarterback

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<v Speaker 5>is gonna be good.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, this is what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't say the same for Bill. What Bill gets

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<v Speaker 2>credit for Tom and he a quarterback and you a

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<v Speaker 2>defensive coach.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, after deflay Gate? How many how many games was

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<v Speaker 3>Brady suspended? They went undefeated? Yeah, and then me and

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<v Speaker 3>Homie's career who went to the forty nine ers?

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<v Speaker 2>What's his name? Trash? What about no?

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly?

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<v Speaker 2>And Bill?

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<v Speaker 3>He went undefeated with Bill after deflay Gate when Brady

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<v Speaker 3>got suspended.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, I mean, you're talking about a couple of games.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll give you that.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't say, and I'm not saying it's comparable to

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<v Speaker 3>what Andy Reid has done. It as in regards with

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<v Speaker 3>other quarterbacks, but you can't discredit that Brady was really

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<v Speaker 3>a nobody at that time. You say that though, yo,

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<v Speaker 3>I know what he did in Michigan. Don't get me wrong,

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<v Speaker 3>They gets credited him.

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<v Speaker 5>Were talking about the pros everywhere. Time where he goes,

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<v Speaker 5>he wins. The dude left, the dude leaves.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying. I'm saying when Bledson went down,

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<v Speaker 3>Bill was dealing with nobody as a quarterback, had no

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<v Speaker 3>experience in the NFL and no real personnel.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's not true.

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<v Speaker 3>Bill and Brady have made Edelman a Hall of Famer.

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<v Speaker 3>Like every little fucking wide receiver. They have made that

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<v Speaker 3>way hot.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's my question of people like that.

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<v Speaker 5>They say that, how does Bill get credit for them

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<v Speaker 5>type of receivers. He's like d he's on DEFENSI side,

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<v Speaker 5>don't have no.

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<v Speaker 2>Do the offense.

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<v Speaker 3>That come on, you think Bill Belisha has nothing to

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<v Speaker 3>do with the offense, nothing in You think he don't

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<v Speaker 3>show up on Tuesdays and Wednesdays. He'd just be at

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<v Speaker 3>home with his twenty four year oirlfriend.

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<v Speaker 5>And like he's not putting no plays in, he's not installing,

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<v Speaker 5>he's not like he's not coaching the offense. But Andy

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<v Speaker 5>ree ain't going over coaching the defense.

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<v Speaker 3>He's the coach the GM. I'm not I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>he's the best drafter, but look what he's done. He's

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<v Speaker 3>taking a bunch of kids from Rutgers and made them

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<v Speaker 3>Hall of Fame. DB's like, that's a coach. He put

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<v Speaker 3>the best offensive coordinators that ended up being the Notre

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<v Speaker 3>Dame head coach. Like he has made stars out of coaches.

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<v Speaker 3>Mike Rabel, like he has made stars coordinators.

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<v Speaker 2>They be trashed for offense.

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<v Speaker 3>Then why are their dynasty?

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<v Speaker 5>Let me tell you they coaching Tom Brady. Dog, that's

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<v Speaker 5>the truth. The coordinators, he gets right. They comeing with

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<v Speaker 5>the Patriots, they winning all these games and all this

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<v Speaker 5>shit stone they leave the Patriots and they leave Tom

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<v Speaker 5>Brady the quarterback.

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<v Speaker 2>They go to all these different places and be trash,

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<v Speaker 2>you know they do. Then they come back to Tom

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<v Speaker 2>and he saved them. Tom left the Patriot and won

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<v Speaker 2>a championship with the Bucks.

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<v Speaker 3>Ye same roster that was like, that was like the Aauver.

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<v Speaker 3>That Bucks team was insane. What are we talking about?

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<v Speaker 3>I was on running game to three receivers. Let's act

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<v Speaker 3>like that Bucks team. Gronk came back. What are we

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<v Speaker 3>talking about? He's an All Star team but see you

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<v Speaker 3>say that.

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<v Speaker 2>You say that, but it's like this, the elite players

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<v Speaker 2>versus eleaite players. So none is is really easy, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>The NFL, of course it's really easy.

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<v Speaker 5>So what I'm saying is the common factor we have

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<v Speaker 5>here is that every time number twelve goes somewhere, they're going.

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<v Speaker 2>To be winning. And then and then when he leaves,

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<v Speaker 2>the Patriots ain't never looked that bad fact.

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<v Speaker 3>And I know, I think Tom Brady is the greatest

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<v Speaker 3>quarterback of all time. I don't even think it's fucking close.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just saying we cannot discredit Bill Belichick and everything

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<v Speaker 3>he did with the rosters that he had. The Patriots

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<v Speaker 3>were never a superstar team ever. I mean even the

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<v Speaker 3>running backs. If you go through the Patriots running backs

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<v Speaker 3>for the last twenty years, those guys would have never

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<v Speaker 3>been damn near Super Bowl MVPs without the system that

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<v Speaker 3>was running in the Patriots.

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<v Speaker 2>This is why I'll get what you keep doing, you

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<v Speaker 2>keep giving.

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<v Speaker 5>So Bill's thing is defense, but he's one of the

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<v Speaker 5>they say he's one of the most greatest masterminds on defense.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, So if that's what he is, why do you

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<v Speaker 2>keep giving him credit for offense.

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<v Speaker 3>He's the head coach, so if they fail, it's he

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<v Speaker 3>gets the credit. But if they win, he doesn't.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm saying, how do you get the credit? Nobody?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's the head coach. You think you think

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<v Speaker 3>he's legitimately not looking through any of that, like he's

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<v Speaker 3>just been like, yo, whatever y'all want to do.

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<v Speaker 5>No, I mean, obviously hit a coach, But what I'm

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<v Speaker 5>saying is like, he ain't in that MOE for like, yo,

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<v Speaker 5>let's go over to his office of game plan to try.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not what he does.

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<v Speaker 3>Something he do most coaches threw him off. I just

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<v Speaker 3>cannot see him not he he ain't doing.

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<v Speaker 2>These crazy iodic defensive shit. He that's not what they do.

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<v Speaker 5>Get an office, come to the defense coach, you get

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<v Speaker 5>the head coach. I see everything, but I ain't really

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<v Speaker 5>so real quick before you leave, because you keep saying

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<v Speaker 5>that personal and the team was not that good.

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<v Speaker 2>Look at the fucking defense that the Pitchers had with

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<v Speaker 2>Tom Brady and Andrew Blutson, because I don't think you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Because they no Teddy Bruski. Teddy Brusky was crazy. Rabel

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<v Speaker 3>was there at that time. I mean obviously you get

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<v Speaker 3>to the high towers and all that kind of players.

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<v Speaker 2>They were good to get the real good players.

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<v Speaker 3>Rodney Harrison was struggling in Sandy. Ain't going until he

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<v Speaker 3>came to the Patriots. He was having he was having

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<v Speaker 3>a hard time going.

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<v Speaker 2>Keep going, that's crazy to keep going.

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<v Speaker 3>Who was who was the free safety next to Ronnie Harrison?

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<v Speaker 3>He was nice?

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<v Speaker 2>My lord that went to the Bills.

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<v Speaker 3>He was nice, he was he was Yeah, but again

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<v Speaker 3>he's always been nicey, No, you sabot lawyer malloy. Yeah

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<v Speaker 3>he was a linebacker, yeah, Lawyer malloy. Willie McGinnis was

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<v Speaker 3>struggling with the Patriots until until Bill got there. They

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<v Speaker 3>was in a bad organization. I'm sorry. You think I'm

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<v Speaker 3>all right? No, no, no, let's let's get into it.

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<v Speaker 3>You think Pete Carroll was bringing Willie McGinnis to the

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<v Speaker 3>Promised Land.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Willie was a really good player.

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<v Speaker 3>No, WILLI is a Hall of Famer, he's but he

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<v Speaker 3>had a shy system, really, isn't. You had Ryan Seymour,

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<v Speaker 3>You had ty law Samuel first of all, all right,

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<v Speaker 3>Sante Samuel, who was a Sante Samuel before the Patriots

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<v Speaker 3>and got that contract with y'all.

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<v Speaker 2>Bro, he was a beast.

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<v Speaker 5>He's a rookie and beat one of the dudes out.

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<v Speaker 5>He's been good his whole life, his whole life and prob.

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<v Speaker 3>But that he wasn't some lottery pick that the Patriots got.

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<v Speaker 3>There was already a damn near dynasty when they got

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<v Speaker 3>at Samuel. The system was perfect for him. You acting

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<v Speaker 3>like sam was a number one pick. What I'm saying

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<v Speaker 3>he was a baller. I don't care what he's he was.

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<v Speaker 3>He should be in the Hall of Fame. I'm saying

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<v Speaker 3>the system with the Patriots with Bill and what he

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<v Speaker 3>did gave him even the value to what got to.

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<v Speaker 2>The balled out with the patris and ball with the Eagles.

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<v Speaker 3>Bill Belichick made Tyrone Poole a potential Hall of Famer.

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<v Speaker 3>What are you talking about, TYROLO? I love Tyrol Pool,

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<v Speaker 3>but yo, yo, you see this crect.

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<v Speaker 5>Everybody's so fool You'll be surprised. A lot of the

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<v Speaker 5>Patriots players saying about him, like all that bullshit.

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<v Speaker 2>Tom bradys Will made that thing go. Bro, that's a

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<v Speaker 2>simple I.

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<v Speaker 3>Mean, yeah, yeah, I'm arguing because it's fun right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, know you and Locker rooms. You know ship

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<v Speaker 3>way more than I Like you said last name real quick.

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<v Speaker 5>You know like all thirteen teams, right, you telling me

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<v Speaker 5>if Tom Brady went to the bad teams, so you

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<v Speaker 5>got the average teams and the bad teams, do you

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<v Speaker 5>think that he makes them teams better?

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<v Speaker 3>I think if he went to the forty nine ers

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<v Speaker 3>with one hundred and ninety eighth pick instead of the

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<v Speaker 3>hundred and nine ninth pick, we're looking at something different.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it was a perfect storm, a shit that

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<v Speaker 3>happens in the universe with two people coming together. Tom

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<v Speaker 3>was gonna be Tom no matter way he lands. No

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<v Speaker 3>opportunity is something that happens. Like let's say Bledsoe. Bledsoe,

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<v Speaker 3>they had just read up his contract. He was going

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<v Speaker 3>to be the franchise player. If he doesn't go down,

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<v Speaker 3>Bledsoe still stays right there. We're not acting like they're

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<v Speaker 3>putting two hundred million into Drew Bledsoe after he did

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<v Speaker 3>take them to the Super Bowl lost against Brett Favre.

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<v Speaker 3>At that point, they're gonna let Tom Brady beat him out.

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<v Speaker 3>In practice, you think Robert Kraft is allowing that. Yo,

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<v Speaker 3>he allowed Hernandez to mark people and he still was

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<v Speaker 3>like yo, I'll show up the court.

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<v Speaker 2>They gave Tom Brady hunter mean deal or they gave

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<v Speaker 2>Buss poyman out deal and Tom beat him out. He's better.

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<v Speaker 2>He's better, bro, He's That's what happened.

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<v Speaker 3>Tom beat out. Who Bloods went down? Let's went down?

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<v Speaker 3>Came back for the Pittsburgh AFC Championship for like one quarter,

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<v Speaker 3>bloodso balled out, But it was clear that Tom Brady

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<v Speaker 3>was the one. If Bledsoe doesn't go down, that doesn't happen.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean, that's football. We can't I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>They're not allowing as good as Brady could be at

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<v Speaker 3>practice that franchise. In politics, what did you say? What

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<v Speaker 3>did you say earlier? I'm gonna do a callback. You said,

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes the best player doesn't play. It's politics. You give

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<v Speaker 3>Bloodsoe this much money, He has the smile, he's tall,

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<v Speaker 3>he's marketable. You think they're investing all that money to

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<v Speaker 3>let some kid from Michigan beat him out. No, that's

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<v Speaker 3>not happening. He went down, and he took the moment

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<v Speaker 3>and became the greatest quarterback of all time. If he

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<v Speaker 3>goes to the forty nine ers, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 3>that same opportunity is happening.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh so so you're saying, oh oh you said, okay,

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<v Speaker 5>get curted for that. So you say, like, Bill made

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<v Speaker 5>it happen for him, give him chance to play.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a perfect storm and energy of both of

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<v Speaker 3>those people and that opportunity and yeah, an amazing coach

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<v Speaker 3>and the potential greatest quarterback of all time and that

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<v Speaker 3>moment happening. That's some real universe, Like you have to

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<v Speaker 3>go in the moon and stars to figure out how

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<v Speaker 3>that whole shit happened. I'm dead ass.

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<v Speaker 5>But the thing with Tom is like the time that

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<v Speaker 5>you know, everywhere he's been a he's a really really

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<v Speaker 5>good He's been a winner.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Yeah, Michigan, he's a winner.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything I know about Tom is that he's been a winner.

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<v Speaker 2>He's been really really good as a quarterback. That's what

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<v Speaker 2>y'all know.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, what I'm telling you is that we can't say

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<v Speaker 5>the same for Belichick. That's all I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Bro.

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<v Speaker 3>No, he's seventy five or the twenty four yard girlfriend,

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<v Speaker 3>that's a winner to me.

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<v Speaker 2>So look, look, look, he gott to do his homework.

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<v Speaker 2>I got a rod. It's a homework.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, thank you bro.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I appreciate y'all. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Love no