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Yeah, this 31 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 3: is a this is one. 32 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 4: This is one of the guests that we was looking 33 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 4: forward to, been wanting to talk on in for a 34 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 4: while now. 35 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 3: Been a big fan of this guy. 36 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 4: So he's here to day to com and give us 37 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 4: more of an insight on ball where we need it. 38 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 3: We need all of our ballplayer buck this intro. I 39 00:01:58,200 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 3: know we try to talk about sports on this Let's 40 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 3: to the motherfucking mess we are you've been doing on 41 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 3: the timeline the last forty eight hours. You start, you 42 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 3: start in trouble man, usually trying to talk about sports. Nah, 43 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 3: what's going on? Man? What's up with this? 44 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 2: Ryan? 45 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:12,959 Speaker 3: Ryan Clark RG three thing? 46 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:13,239 Speaker 2: Man? 47 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 3: What's going on? Man? You're up there with one of 48 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 3: my favorite tweeters of all time. 49 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 5: Nah, I mean to be honest right, I'm not like 50 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 5: a real uh like social media type of savvy dude 51 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 5: like that. 52 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 2: So I'll be noticing, like you'll see players in the 53 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 2: media or not in the media, and like it's something 54 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 2: going on. 55 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 5: They can't wait to jump on it to get a 56 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 5: reaction for people. The same dudes that like, they'll say 57 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 5: something right and then they're looking. 58 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 2: At the views and the likes every fifteen minutes. 59 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 5: I never was like that. I always is organic. I 60 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 5: see someone I don't like, I speak on it. So 61 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 5: when I watch these two dudes, I'm like, yo, you 62 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 5: got the same guy, you know what I mean. It's like, yeah, 63 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:53,519 Speaker 5: one dude is probably a little more cornier than the 64 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 5: other one, but that's just say it's the same conversation. 65 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 3: Like the same Can you give our listeners some backstory 66 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 3: of what it is happening on the sun Line? So 67 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 3: we said, I want to get right to it. 68 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 4: So so Ryan Clark, he was being outspoken about the 69 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:10,519 Speaker 4: whole uh RG three take on the whole injuries Caitlin 70 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 4: Clark situation. At a lot of people have turned it 71 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 4: into something, you know, it's like racial and things of 72 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 4: that nature. Uh So Ryan Clark had something to say 73 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 4: to RG three and uh Lashawn had something to say 74 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,239 Speaker 4: to both of those gentlemen today, he tweeted. He didn't 75 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 4: say no names, but he just kind of alluded to 76 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 4: two guys that were having a back and forth. 77 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 3: And just respect to all parties. But how did RG 78 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 3: three and Ryan Clark start beefing about Angeury? 79 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 5: So so so RG three is the type of dude 80 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 5: anytime it's something going on, like, oh, I'm gonna jump 81 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 5: on and try to get some views out of it. 82 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 2: There's a lot of people like that. 83 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 4: Bro, Yah, y'all have that's that's that's that's that's that's 84 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 4: the nature. 85 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 3: Now, right. 86 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 5: So I think a lot of times when dudes don't 87 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 5: really have no real like legacy or story to really 88 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 5: talk about or who they are, they run to. 89 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 2: That type of stuff and some of it works. So 90 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 2: I'm not mad at it anyway. 91 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 5: He's making like, Okay, you know the Kaitlyn Clark and injuries. Now, 92 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 5: everybody know it's some tension here obviously, right, And in 93 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 5: all sports you need a racial component to blow up 94 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 5: the sport, like, let's just be honest basketball, the. 95 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 3: Same way Magic and Bird was kind of that, Yeah, 96 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 3: come on, man, I mean Jackie Robinson I think was yeah, But. 97 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 2: You look at like Caitlin Clark. 98 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 5: I think she's a phenomenal player and and respectfully, I 99 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 5: don't think that her and Auries are on the same 100 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 5: level basketball wise, but injuries, he holds her own and 101 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 5: she's good in her own, right. I just think that, 102 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 5: like it is a race component, and and you look 103 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 5: at the w n b A, like, there's bet there 104 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 5: was better girls before Caitlyn Clark, and there was better 105 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 5: girls before injuries. When you have two league girls in 106 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 5: college and they have the race component, it makes everybody watch, you. 107 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 2: Get what I'm saying. 108 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 5: So he spoke on that, and he made it by 109 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 5: all this other stuff, and algually three gets crazy with it, 110 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 5: like he always brings his white wife and all this extra. 111 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 2: It's uncomfortable a little bit, you know what I mean. 112 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 5: And then Ryan, And the one thing that Ryan did 113 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 5: do that I did respect is you know, he has 114 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 5: a voice in the platform, so he likes to, you know, 115 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 5: speak up for the black women, which a lot of 116 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 5: people don't. So I respect that part right the wrong. 117 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 5: I respect that we're gonna protect our women right because 118 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 5: they want to make injuries like this angry black girl 119 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 5: and all that. You know what that girl been through 120 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 5: from Baltimore, so I respect it is like. 121 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 3: She's not even angry, you know. 122 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 2: What I'm saying. That's that's the news they want to 123 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 2: pay all. 124 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 5: I think with the Ryan's like, yo, you bringing the 125 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 5: dude's wife up in it, like what we're talking about, 126 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 5: because because somebody else if you mentioned ain't wife, You're 127 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 5: not gonna do that with them. Argier three is the 128 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 5: kind of a kind of what he is, so you 129 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 5: can really play that game with him. And also like 130 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 5: like he always trying to look for a way to 131 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 5: have attention. I remember way back in the day we 132 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 5: had the NBA NFL lockout right, I mean, so we 133 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 5: we ain't playing those sports until we get an agreement 134 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:57,799 Speaker 5: with the owners and the players. 135 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 2: He gets a vited of him going to the Stellers 136 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 2: facility and the doors is locked, Like what type of key? 137 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 3: What is that? 138 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 2: I just don't like this, so corder to me. I 139 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 2: can't even really everybody's different. 140 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 4: I can't really, you know, but I mean I understand, uh, 141 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 4: you know, the well, I don't understand the the ajuries 142 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 4: Kaitlyn Clark thing. I think that obviously to two women 143 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 4: that came in together coming from college, they obviously elevated 144 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 4: the sport as far as you know, the national attention 145 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 4: when they were in college. Uh, Kaitlyn Clark phenomenal player, 146 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 4: Angel Rees and Lsu did U was amazing, and now 147 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 4: they kind of parlayed that over into the pro level. 148 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 3: But you know, I don't think the last the last 149 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 3: thing that. 150 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 4: Happened between them, when Angel got a technical foul or 151 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 4: Kaitlyn got a technical whatever it was, Kaitlyn Clark didn't 152 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 4: even foul her that hard, Like she just she swiped 153 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 4: down at the ball. 154 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 3: They're trying to say she pushed it. She didn't push it. 155 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 3: She swiped down. Now injuries pushed her teammate first, and 156 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 3: Kaylyn Clark was telling Reugh like, Yo, you don't see that. 157 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 4: And then the Angel would have had a wide open 158 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 4: layup and Kaitlyn Clark just filed to swipe down at 159 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 4: the ball and found it. Now it's turned into something like, 160 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 4: you know. 161 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 3: It's a regular felt it was a regular, but also's 162 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 3: response was a regular professional athlete lie as well, like 163 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:20,239 Speaker 3: everything was regular. 164 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 5: My thing is like as an athlete, right, I can't 165 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 5: tell y'all can't tell me. I can't tell her how 166 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 5: you should feel somebody foul you certain way. 167 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 3: Exactly. 168 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 2: The thing is, now, you know, I don't even rock 169 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 2: with you like that. You don't you don't put you, you 170 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. And it's like. 171 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 5: Something like we got to look at women like they are. 172 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 5: They are athletes too, So there's the NBA. It won't 173 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 5: be no, it won't be no issue, you know what 174 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 5: I mean. So, and she felt like she hit her 175 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 5: or found her a certain way. I can't tell her 176 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 5: she's wrong for that, you know what I mean? Like, 177 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 5: I don't know, I can't say that. 178 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 3: So you think the white wife was the one behind 179 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 3: all of this? I asked the question. Maul didn't, Uh, 180 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 3: I just don't. 181 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 5: Dudes just laughing, just looking at him like they both 182 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 5: trying to fight, pretender. So it's like they're the saying, God, 183 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 5: this one dude's a little bit more extra, you know 184 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 5: what I'm saying. I mean, I probably want to hit 185 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 5: it like that want brought his white wife into it 186 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 5: like that was a little too much. 187 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, that was a little. But I think what Ryan 188 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 4: was was trying to say is like, you know what 189 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 4: he said it. He was like, you don't understand black 190 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 4: women because you're married to a white woman. 191 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 3: Something like that. 192 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 2: That. 193 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 5: I think he said, yeah, I disagree with that because Yo, 194 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:29,239 Speaker 5: you had a white baby mama. 195 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 2: Like what, Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Three hard 196 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 2: to get this. 197 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 5: Another thing is these dudes don't really really come from culture, 198 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 5: so like you're trying to get it so much that 199 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 5: you just say anything. 200 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 2: We're like, Yo, you got a white baby mom. It's 201 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:43,439 Speaker 2: the same thing. 202 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean I just think that it's just 203 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 4: all for clicks and you know you yeah, yeah, A 204 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 4: lot a lot of that is definitely it's it's performative 205 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 4: stuff just to get people riled up. 206 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 3: But but I mean that happens to all of us 207 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 3: in this space. We end up coming off hypocritical of times, 208 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 3: because when we have that focus of like, let's try 209 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:04,839 Speaker 3: to get clicks or whatever, we contradict a bunch of 210 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 3: shit that was already recorded. And everyone knows about us 211 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 3: because Ryan Clark was Andrew Schultz the one that talked 212 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 3: to Ryan Clark about the Hey, you've had women beater 213 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 3: on your show a bunch of times. Why are you 214 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 3: even getting in the mix on this like this happens. 215 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 3: This is not natural or normal that we have to 216 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,079 Speaker 3: think of every thought every day to record and put 217 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,199 Speaker 3: out because we're gonna be caught in some type of 218 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 3: hypocritical bullshit because we speak every fucking day. So I mean, 219 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 3: I get it, but. 220 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 2: I think if you but have you been organic and 221 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 2: just honest to who you is? Yeah, I don't think 222 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 2: we have that problem. And everything's one hundred percent. 223 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:42,439 Speaker 5: But like, yo, if I believe everything I'll say, and 224 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 5: I'm doing everything from a genuine place, I don't think 225 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 5: you can never be wrong. 226 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 3: I'm speaking in general forgetting that the race of your 227 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 3: baby mother is a little crazy. But I'm just speaking 228 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:55,839 Speaker 3: to job. How the fuck you forget you got a 229 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 3: white baby, mam? 230 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 231 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 5: That's the one thing that drives me crazy when dudes 232 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 5: be doing this black pirate. I'm from our people, the culture, 233 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 5: but then the whole time only they white girls. 234 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, yeah, and it's not wrong with that, 235 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:11,959 Speaker 2: but just don't be don't do all that. Just be normal. 236 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:13,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, just just fall back when it comes to that 237 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 4: type of conversation, just fading into the background a little bit. 238 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 5: You run around you like you Malcolm Mexic and all that, 239 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 5: But then the whole time he's trying. 240 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 2: To like cold on. 241 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 3: Thank God, I don't touch white one. With that said, 242 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 3: moving on to the next, I'm sorry, it's been a 243 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 3: long day. Where are you at with this Joey badass daylight? 244 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 3: Ray Vaughan? Have you been paying attention to battle at all? 245 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 2: No? I like Joy badass, so I think he's talented. 246 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 5: I don't get the whole Kendrick joint that was, like, 247 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 5: I ain't really get all that, Like he's trying to 248 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 5: come at Kendrick. 249 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure out. 250 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 3: Like why, Yeah, I mean yeah, he's shooting at what 251 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 3: would be deemed the biggest rapper right now, especially after 252 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 3: twenty twenty four, Like you're not supposed to shoo at 253 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 3: the best rapper. He's got to deal with the entire 254 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 3: West Coast on his way there. But I think he's 255 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 3: proved that Kendrick may need to come outside. He just 256 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 3: ran through all his homies, Paul. 257 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 2: Do you think i' let's get this straight. So a 258 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 2: rapper don't have no real resident. 259 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 5: And I like Joey though, so hear me out dope 260 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 5: act in these Adope lyricis I like Rap? You know 261 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 5: noways everything's mumbling and all catch you. I like Rap, 262 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:29,319 Speaker 5: So I like him. But like I'm just thinking, like 263 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 5: if I'm Kendrick, what like there's something to gain from 264 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 5: going against Jake Cole, going against Drake. The people look 265 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 5: at them as my peers, like we were on the same level. 266 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 2: Let me show y'all, well, like you gotta really earn that, right. 267 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 5: It's just like, I don't know who you think the 268 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 5: best NFL players, but like Patrickholmes at about the answer 269 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 5: to every dude that could bring you know. 270 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 2: What I'm saying, I agree with you. 271 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 3: But how this whole thing played out? Like where Kendrick 272 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 3: after the Drake battle, it was all West Coast, West 273 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 3: Coast looking we did, we had the greatest year ever. 274 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 3: We're all unified. It's West Coast. Joey said one bar 275 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 3: about the West Coast, and all of every last rapper 276 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 3: in LA started replying to Joey and it became this 277 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:11,199 Speaker 3: West Coast unity shit and he ran through everybody. So 278 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 3: Kendricks needs to defend his coast. 279 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 2: No, he don't. Bro It's just like it's just like, Yo, 280 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 2: how do I this hurt me out. 281 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 5: How do I go from destroying Drake Drake we're talking 282 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 5: about in the rap battle. 283 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 2: Now you want me to go give you it? 284 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:29,839 Speaker 5: Just don't even you know what I mean. Now I'm 285 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 5: gonna go get Joey. I just we could disagree. 286 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 2: I just don't. 287 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 3: I feel like if you smoked all my friends, I 288 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 3: got to step in as the big homie and be like, 289 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 3: all right, fine, I talk. But I think we're that 290 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:42,679 Speaker 3: right because he ran through everybody. 291 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 4: Now, but LaShaun is saying is still though it's a 292 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 4: certain who did he run through? There's certain tiers. 293 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 3: There's like like if you were seen people from coast. 294 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 4: If I'm on the first tier and you run through 295 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 4: all of the guys on the third and fourth tiers, 296 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 4: you can't start yelling my name, like. 297 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 3: After you have the fucking Super Bowl parade party, everything 298 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 3: of winning the entire twenty twenty four year, the West 299 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 3: Coast is the greatest ship of all time, and one 300 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 3: rapper runs through everybody that even said a name or 301 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 3: word about him. Yeah, that that warrants some type of 302 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 3: reverence to me. 303 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:17,679 Speaker 5: If you did a poll, right, I get two things 304 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 5: that I'm done with it. If you did a poll 305 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 5: I'm like, Yo, if you just ask, like, do people 306 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 5: know Joey bads as a as like a rapper rapper 307 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 5: or like the cat that's on Canaan. Most people you 308 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. So it's like if Kendrick I'm going, 309 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 5: I'm everywhere, you can't like I'm everywhere, Bro, they don't 310 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 5: even don't. It don't make sense. There's more to lose 311 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,439 Speaker 5: and game. And the second thing is I think like 312 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 5: all the best rap battles, like like Hole was going 313 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 5: at nas and giving real bars and songs. 314 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 2: He gonna get Prodigy a bar. 315 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 3: Yeah you know what I mean? 316 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 2: Like this thing about what I'm saying, like you ain't 317 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 2: about to do all that. 318 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 3: To do that, Yeah, but that's backward to that point. 319 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 3: I feel like Hole, even if it was subliminally reply 320 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 3: to literally everybody he was replying to P D. Crack, 321 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 3: he was proud to. 322 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:10,559 Speaker 4: He's gonna respond, but it ain't gonna be like, it's 323 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:11,959 Speaker 4: not gonna be a song. It's not gonna be a 324 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 4: song tailored specifically Joey, but it's gonna be some bars 325 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 4: in there where he's gonna address. Yeah, I heard you 326 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 4: calling my name, fam Like you know like he's not 327 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 4: gonna dedicate a whole moment to Joey Badass, So he's 328 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 4: not gonna. 329 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 2: Do that, and mean like y'all you're doing your thing. 330 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 2: You gotta gotta ya, ya got a good thing going on, 331 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 2: you know what I mean? 332 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 5: And mass like a smaller pockast trying to call it. 333 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 5: Let's like I ain't about to even think about it, 334 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 5: like I'm gonna waste my time. 335 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 2: The dress underneath us just don't even really add up. 336 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 3: Some days you want to be petty though. 337 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 4: Some days you want to be petty and address everybody 338 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 4: though some days, but that's bad for business. 339 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 3: You can't do that. You can't do that though that's bad. 340 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 3: It's better for the community. Sometimes you have to humble 341 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 3: people and let him know, like I see you get 342 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 3: a little too big for your bridge, Like let me 343 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 3: just put things in perspective for you. Yeah, and just 344 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 3: give him half a bar. And then if he gave. 345 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 2: Joey what he want right and he answered bad. Now 346 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 2: every little or every guy is trying to get up there. 347 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 2: What's gonna do that, you know what I'm saying. Every 348 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 2: guy got my name. 349 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 3: And yeah, no, you can't do that. But I think 350 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 3: in the beginning when Joey was trying to do it, 351 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 3: I was on the same side as you. I just 352 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 3: think he's proven himself this week that's warranted a different 353 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 3: type of notice, a little bit more of attention instead 354 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 3: of any guy just saying Kendrick. 355 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 2: Namegest in your mind right now? Who like today? Who 356 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 2: the biggest artists? 357 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 3: I still think the big three, Cole, Kendrick, and Drake 358 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 3: are still the three biggest rap artists. 359 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 5: Oh, we had a whole beef in the rat one 360 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 5: one of the best I like j Cole. 361 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 2: He tapped out. He said, this is not from me. 362 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 2: I'm tapping Then the other one that's even the biggest 363 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 2: one I took down. Would you know what I'm saying? 364 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 3: Well, it's funny. We had this conversation a few weeks 365 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 3: ago when I asked Mare, I said to Kendrick put 366 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 3: himself in a position that he never has to reply 367 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 3: to anybody for the rest of his life. 368 00:15:58,920 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 2: What it is? 369 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:02,119 Speaker 3: I think, But who else? There's never There's no superstars 370 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 3: on the horizon, So I think this current moment is 371 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 3: the only thing Kendrick would have to reply to. Nobody 372 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 3: behind us right now that we can see as of 373 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 3: this moment is a rap superstar. I feel like that's 374 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 3: kind of dead and going right now. 375 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 5: I mean, but more if he earns my respect, because 376 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 5: it's some dude that I got respect, you know that 377 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 5: you probably would answer to you know what I'm saying. 378 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it would have to be a legend. And 379 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 3: I don't think they're doing that either. Not a legends 380 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 3: ain't coming outside. Yeah, they raising their kids and podcasting. 381 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 3: Let's talk about let's talk about your transition. Obviously you've 382 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 3: done you know, major things on the field. H. Two 383 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 3: time super Bowl champion, All PROH. The list goes on, 384 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 3: when did you know or when did you start thinking 385 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 3: about your transition into TV? 386 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 2: So when I came in the league, I was so like. 387 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 5: I had like a chip on my shoulder, right, I 388 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 5: feel like I wasn't drafted. I was putting drafted that, 389 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 5: you know what I mean. So I always like driving 390 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 5: to be the best, to be the best. So I 391 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 5: start doing these different accolades, and I started getting a 392 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 5: lot of contracts. So you know, you go for making 393 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 5: I don't know, four hundred three, three hundred thousand dollars 394 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 5: a week, right, and. 395 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 2: You and you and you, you know, you you spending. 396 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 5: You see how it's moving. And then they go from 397 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 5: three hundred, four hundred grand to like, okay, one hundred grand. 398 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 5: All right, okay, okay, all right. Now now we have 399 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 5: eighty thousand a week. Now we had sixty. 400 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 2: I'm like, whoa. So I started seeing that. 401 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 5: Whole thing happen, you know, and then I didn't like 402 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 5: how Maybe I don't know if it's ego whatever, but 403 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 5: my roles was changing, and I'm like, yo, man, you 404 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:40,400 Speaker 5: got me playing behind this dude. 405 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 2: I'm better than him because he's younger than me. I'm 406 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 2: bading this dude. And that's not how the league works. 407 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 2: The league is a young man's sport. 408 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 5: Unless you win the championships, they're not really keeping the 409 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 5: older dude. So I was like, okay, So I said, well, 410 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 5: I got to do something else. So I always thought 411 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 5: that I would do good on TV because I like 412 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 5: the tallest, easy to. 413 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 2: Me, you know what I mean. I can relate to 414 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 2: a lot of different players, So I knew I would 415 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 2: do that. 416 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:01,880 Speaker 5: And then it kind of got into the real estate game, 417 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 5: probably like maybe like year nine. You know, it's buying 418 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 5: up small little properties, fixing them up, you know, getting 419 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 5: returns on them. 420 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 2: And I started doing like little apartments, you know what 421 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 2: I mean. I see how that was going. 422 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 5: So I'm like, damn, if I could just go to 423 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 5: all the seasons I like to hang out at and 424 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:22,880 Speaker 5: start owning apartments, I could hang out and I could 425 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 5: be making money. So then I started doing like big 426 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 5: developments like ground up, Like so right now, I just 427 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 5: finished in my hometown, Harrisburg. It's like our Philadelphia seventeen 428 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 5: dollars fifty unit apartments, you know what I mean. So 429 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 5: that's like the new thing I'm doing the side. You know, 430 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 5: now I don't have to work with like a million 431 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 5: different tenants. It's it's all brand new, so nothing should 432 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 5: really be breaking. 433 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 2: You know what I mean. And everything is there. So 434 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 2: and I was getting a lot of hasshes from like 435 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 2: doing the smaller things. You know, people it's bro that, 436 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, they calling you. 437 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 3: Everybody got playing new, real nice, everybody got a plan. 438 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. So that's how I got to that market. 439 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 5: Did After that, I start doing the podcast me and 440 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 5: my brother Deshaun Jackson, you know what I mean, and 441 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 5: it's start getting bigger and better. So that's how I 442 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 5: really transition you know, there's no real like me and 443 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 5: you to tell you, yo, when you retire, this is 444 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 5: what you do. That's why a lot of guys are 445 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 5: because you're making a million off you know, yearly, you 446 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 5: know what I mean, and like you're playing a sport 447 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 5: that stopperly your job. You love it, right, and then 448 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 5: when you're done, there's nobody say, yo, this is what 449 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 5: you do? 450 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 1: You know. 451 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 5: So I just had a good supporting cast run and 452 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 5: that's kind of got to where I'm at today. 453 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, because that's got to be tough. Like the average 454 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 3: person probably retires at sixty five, sixty six whatever. Professional athletes, 455 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 3: some of y'all be retiring in twenty eight. Like life 456 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 3: is short, but life is long as fuck. And now 457 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 3: it's like, all right, everything I've known for the last 458 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 3: twenty eight years is done. Where do I go from here? 459 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 3: And money can drive quick. So I feel for a 460 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 3: lot of professional athletes, especially NFL athletes, because y'all retire 461 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 3: quicker than MLB NBA because it's more of a tough game. 462 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 3: How do you feel that the politics are similar in 463 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 3: NFL organizations and the TV world. 464 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,119 Speaker 5: The politics, So there's a lot of times when dudes 465 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 5: man Davies. They'll get on TV and they'll change who 466 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 5: they are just to make the bosses happy or to 467 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 5: you know, continue to get paid because they got a family, 468 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 5: you know what I mean. So it's this tricky situation like, Yo, 469 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 5: you ain't being rare or I played with you. 470 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 2: You ain't even act like that. But now I'm not 471 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 2: a player, no moore, and I'm trying to remain employed 472 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 2: getting my money. 473 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 5: And I think also in football is like it ain't 474 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 5: always the best player that plays, you know what I mean. 475 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 2: Like there's sometimes when you a coach, he'll keep a 476 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 2: job for thirty years, and it's like, how does he 477 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 2: not't that smart? He might his dad might a coach. 478 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 2: He know that coach he hires you. 479 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 5: Relationships everybody's buddy buddy, And I think sometimes you be 480 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 5: so wrapped up in YO, the best pleasure players should 481 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 5: win and play and the best TV person I should 482 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 5: play or she should be on TV. It don't always 483 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 5: happen like that, and I think the relationships is what 484 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 5: really wins. 485 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, how do you feel about sports debate culture? 486 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 4: Like you see a lot of these shows that come 487 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 4: out it's based around guys debate and it's something that 488 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 4: we all do growing up in the barbershop. You know, 489 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 4: whose favorite player, whose favorite team. Now that they've been 490 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 4: able to kind of cough this lane in the sports 491 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 4: television world where it's all debate based, how do you 492 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 4: feel about the debate culture on TV. 493 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's it's kind of dying down a 494 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 2: little bit. 495 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 5: I think the last real debates we had was like 496 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 5: Skip and Shannon Sharp, you know what I mean. But 497 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 5: I do like you because you know, nowadays, like the 498 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 5: culture is now accepted in the corporate world, right, Like 499 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 5: we talked about Kencher Lamar, kench Lamarr's on everything you listen, 500 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 5: were rapping about they mean just going to college and 501 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 5: everybody is white blacks. 502 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 2: Everybody's being acceptible to it. 503 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 5: So now when you get into these conversation on TV, 504 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 5: sometimes it may come off like it is in the barbershop, 505 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 5: but it's authentic. And I think the best thing about 506 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 5: TV now is with these different platforms of like podcasts 507 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 5: and all that is letting the people really see that, Okay, 508 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 5: I don't want the corporate take, give me the real take, 509 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 5: you know. And now it's like you're letting players really 510 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 5: speak on it. Because back in the day, yo, you know, 511 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 5: I chanced to interview Kyrie Irving about this and it 512 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 5: was like, I'd rather give my real take and real 513 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 5: feelings and thoughts to people that was in my seats, 514 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 5: if it was football, bass, whatever it may be, but 515 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 5: stuff that we both go understand, compared to going to 516 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 5: the old media and letting them tell. 517 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 2: My story because they didn't really know. 518 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 5: You get what I'm saying that you gonna tell me 519 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 5: what you think how it is and you never even 520 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 5: really played, You never was in the locker. You never 521 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 5: let a player deliver that message because yo, he might. 522 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 2: Have a better way of explaining to the viewers, yeah, 523 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 2: because he played, et cetera. 524 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 3: That does that make I feel like the you know, 525 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 3: the inception of first take when it was skip and 526 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 3: steven A was damn at the height of your career. 527 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 3: Did you did you tune in and like, did that 528 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 3: ever affect your mental watching that in the morning before 529 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 3: going to practice or before going to a game. 530 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 2: Good question. 531 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 5: So I always like I was type of dude because 532 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 5: my dad was kind of tough on me. So I 533 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 5: always liked, you know, hearing the good in the bad. 534 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying some dudes loved to hear 535 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 5: all the good I want to hear it. 536 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 2: Oh oh you think I'm not like that? Okay, back 537 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 2: and to give you something to feel the fire with. 538 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,479 Speaker 2: You know what? Sometimes though, I used to look at 539 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 2: like certain people that would argue about me. So I 540 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 2: give an example, like if some of ads you see 541 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 2: on here, man, they. 542 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 5: Ate four hundred pounds dog and like, and you telling 543 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,640 Speaker 5: me how Lebron ain't that good? 544 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 2: Like that, I'm just looking like, yo, how can you? 545 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 2: How can you say that? You know what I mean? 546 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 2: So never really me. I remember my first lesson was 547 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:03,719 Speaker 2: I remember when I got in the locker room man, 548 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 2: and this is we had. 549 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 5: Brian Westbrook who was phenomenal. I was a rookie, and 550 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 5: they was like, yo, like you're letting Westbrook go for 551 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 5: LaShaun mccollay. 552 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 2: Who who's this dude? Like he got a little one 553 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 2: of the reporters. I had a little boy body, right, 554 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 2: so he don't know where I'm from. 555 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 5: I said, Yo, when I go in his locker room, 556 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 5: I'm gonna take the paper and I'm gonna let him 557 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 5: have it, right, so I'm ready. It's like it's a clock. 558 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 5: I can't wait to see the term of eight o'clock. 559 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 5: The media come a locker room, I go, right, Toy, 560 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 5: I've never seen him before. And then when I get 561 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:38,439 Speaker 5: to him, he got some thick ass glasses, big gas stomach. 562 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 2: I said, Fam, I can't get mad at you. You 563 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:45,400 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. He don't know what a real 564 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 2: looked like. That was my first lesson. 565 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 5: It's like I never really let them dudes kind of 566 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 5: like dictate who I am. But I think sometimes like 567 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 5: little ex players or certain dudes that really study the game, 568 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 5: we talk about me like like they give a Skip 569 00:24:59,000 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 5: a hard time. 570 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 2: This is what I will say about Skip everything. 571 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 5: Skips say he believes it, like he gonna do a 572 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 5: million research on He's gonna So you don't have to 573 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 5: play sports to know it. But if you really dedicated 574 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 5: you research it, you gonna know about it. So that's 575 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 5: why somebody like him. I respect what you say because 576 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 5: it might not be what I wanted to hear, but 577 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 5: there's some truths to something he's saying. 578 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, does that make sense you're studying and he's really 579 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 2: researching it. 580 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, Skip probably still think t Bow is better than 581 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson. I'm sure he's still down on that t bow. 582 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 3: But we're just waiting for first ballance. 583 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:33,880 Speaker 2: Wins we got. 584 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, have a talented quarterback debate 585 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 5: with you, because that's not but somebody he wins, he 586 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 5: finds he gonna. 587 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 2: Believe that bullshit. 588 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, he definitely believe it. Did you keep that in 589 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 3: mind like going into the podcast and TV, et cetera, 590 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 3: to be a little bit more empathetic with athletes and 591 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 3: maybe even if they having a down year or like 592 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:55,400 Speaker 3: a few games. Do you keep that in the back 593 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 3: of your mind because you know what it feels like 594 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 3: when somebody else is critiquing you when you're mid season. 595 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 5: See now, I struggled with the TV and podcast because 596 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,360 Speaker 5: I was good on TV so early that they got 597 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:08,479 Speaker 5: me in spot, you know what I mean. 598 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 2: And like I didn't have my road training. So when 599 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 2: I see ain't that good? Motherfuck? Ain't that good? On you? Trash? 600 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Because I'm a player, I 601 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 2: didn't realized that I can't say how in the locker room? 602 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 2: He said. 603 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 5: And the hard thing with me was like I don't 604 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 5: care what money you make because nobody care about that. 605 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 5: How good are you so what I would say different things. 606 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 5: I would have people's you know, cousin's family approached me 607 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,439 Speaker 5: and they will be like, yo, why hold up man, 608 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,400 Speaker 5: why your cousin will make your cousin good? 609 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. So I didn't learn how 610 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 2: to say different things because sometimes like you could come 611 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 2: off a certain way like I give you example. 612 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 5: Oh so well, one of the chiefs, right, my last 613 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 5: year was with them, and I played with a lot 614 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 5: of They're good players. I played with a lot of them. 615 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 2: I know them. And one of their teammates wasn't hold 616 00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 2: up his and it's a bargain, so on him out 617 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:01,120 Speaker 2: on the pod. 618 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 5: And then one of my main man's like, yo, dang 619 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 5: too far or shady, Yo, dang, get cutting some slack. 620 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 2: Now. My job is to keep it as really as possible. 621 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,120 Speaker 5: Right, Well, my relationship with you was like you, my man, 622 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 5: I don't want to so I say, look, man, I'm 623 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 5: gonna try to be as fair. 624 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:19,120 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 625 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 5: So maybe one hundred percent opinion on this dude is 626 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 5: that he ain't that good. Maybe I could say in 627 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 5: a different light where I'm being more respectful. That's the 628 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 5: word that's with more respect, you know what I'm saying. 629 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 2: Sometimes you can deal with that too. 630 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 4: And now I'm glad you went into that, because there 631 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 4: is a there is a thing that you have to 632 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:42,159 Speaker 4: do when you're talking about either former teammates or colleagues 633 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 4: and people that you have a real uh connection and 634 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 4: relationship with. You don't want to be as or come 635 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 4: across as harsh to guys that you know, you really 636 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 4: kick it with on a real life in real life situations, 637 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 4: as somebody that you're just. 638 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 3: Watching the game. I never met this this kid yet, 639 00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 3: but you know, you got a lot. 640 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 4: Of upside to him, so you might be a little 641 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,159 Speaker 4: harsh on him versus the guy that you was actually, 642 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,439 Speaker 4: you know, in the trenches with and he's still playing. 643 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 4: You don't want to go at him because that's my 644 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,640 Speaker 4: man for real, like in real life. So it's kind 645 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,159 Speaker 4: of hard to keep it real. But you got to 646 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 4: find a way to be objective, be honest, but you 647 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 4: have to find that little gray area. 648 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 3: Was like, that's my man. I ain't gonna go too. 649 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 2: Odd on them. But see the thing is what I 650 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 2: be telling you, I'm like, yo, like this is my job. Now, 651 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 2: you know what I mean so. 652 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,159 Speaker 5: Like I had a problem with what I'm gonna say, 653 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 5: a problem, but James Hard and his homies had an 654 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 5: issue or something said, and I say, yo, man, like 655 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 5: I know you don't know me, I don't know you. 656 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 5: We know all the same people, so they'll tell you 657 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 5: how I get Damn. It's like, Yo, if you play better, 658 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 5: I'll talk about you better. Right, So we said yo, 659 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 5: if you ask somethingout, James say, Yo, one of the 660 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 5: greatest talents we've ever seen. But if we're talking about 661 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 5: like today, yeah, I say, well, bro, it's documented every time. 662 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 5: It's like a elimination game of game on line, like 663 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 5: you just don't even deliver it. 664 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 4: You disappear you yeah, right right, Yeah, what I'm saying, Yeah, Yeah, 665 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 4: you gotta be honest in that moment. 666 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's. 667 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:14,479 Speaker 2: Yo. 668 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, And they don't want to You can't keep disappearing 669 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 4: in the playoffs. And don't think that we're not gonna 670 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 4: say you can get right. 671 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 3: In front of our playoffs. Yeah, and that's that's interesting. 672 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 3: Let me ask you because we deal more in the 673 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 3: music world, and we've been approached by artists even that 674 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 3: are we consider associates or friends. Artists are sensitive like 675 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 3: that just comes with the territory. Do you think athletes 676 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 3: are just as sensitive? Oh my god, yeah, because we 677 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 3: I mean we we again this don't know ball. We 678 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 3: don't talk sports that much. We talk music, and we 679 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 3: for the last ten years have had to deal with friends, associates, 680 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 3: artists all the time being super sensitive. Well we weren't 681 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 3: even being disrespectful, called anybody out their name. Art is 682 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 3: meant to be critiqued, so we critiqued it. 683 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 2: That's it. 684 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 3: But I always kind of put that sensitivity just artist. 685 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 3: I never even thought that athletes could be that sensitive 686 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 3: based off. 687 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 2: God, yeah, more sensitive. 688 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 5: I think we have a longer, like we're successful longer. 689 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 5: Let me bring it down, like, so. 690 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 2: Most athletes, they've been good since they've been like five 691 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 2: years old. Yeah, they've been their favorites, okay to get 692 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 2: to high school. 693 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 3: They night still the stars. 694 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 695 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 5: I like rappers and rappers and I know, like they 696 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 5: may be rapping this somebody somehow, they somebody look out 697 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 5: for him and then they get a chance, then. 698 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 2: They blow ball players. They've been good forever though. 699 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:33,479 Speaker 3: I never thought of that, you know what I mean, 700 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 3: It means something. 701 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 5: We got egos, you know what I'm saying, so, like, 702 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 5: everything is competitive in sports, so I think we are 703 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 5: super sensitive. 704 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 2: Like, bro, you should be because even. 705 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 5: In rap I feel like like a player that's not 706 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 5: that good in the NFL. You know, he used to 707 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 5: be the man somewhere. 708 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 2: He like to his city. He the man like you 709 00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 2: to tell go to his college. 710 00:30:58,920 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 3: He was the ship. 711 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, you get through the pros, it's like, yeah here 712 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 5: the third string man. Wat we got egos. We stay 713 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 5: sensitive even to. 714 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 2: This day and the times were you know, I'll meet 715 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 2: somebody or whatever and uh, they'll give me respect because 716 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 2: of stuff I didn't feel, but it'd be real dry, 717 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:16,719 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. 718 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 6: You might have said something, Yeah, so I said, yo, man, 719 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 6: I said we got an issue, like I finished or 720 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 6: something like that, because I want to get off the 721 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 6: way because most people. 722 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 2: That rock me they like me. I got that type 723 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 2: of person rocking me while we got what we got 724 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 2: a problem about though. 725 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 3: Right right, and back to that sensitivity and back to 726 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 3: the debate pundit shows when you were playing, was it 727 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 3: ever awkward in the locker room when one of your 728 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 3: teammates got cooked on first take? And it's just the element, 729 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 3: like the elephant in the room no one's saying ship, 730 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 3: but everybody saw all their critiques and you already know 731 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 3: he feeling a way. Is that a thing in the 732 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 3: locker room? Do you'll talk about what's going on with Fox? 733 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 2: No? No, we like people don't. They don't. They don't 734 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 2: have no effect over the we had team, you know 735 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 2: what I mean. It's us against them. 736 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 5: So yeah, you had a bad game, but you my man, 737 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 5: you my brother, Like, I don't care what they say, 738 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 5: but there's times when I've had one time where one 739 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 5: of my teammates was you know, he got caught calling 740 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,479 Speaker 5: blacks niggas Braley Cooper remember that situation. 741 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, like awkward time. I was like, yo, like this 742 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 2: is my man for real? 743 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know I heard what he said. 744 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 2: I only believe that he made us mad. But it's 745 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 2: like you did say that, like it's the league is 746 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 2: full of black blacks. I mean, tho, this is we 747 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 2: all everywhere? So that was real awkward. What was that? 748 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 3: What was that conversation in the locker room? 749 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 2: Yeah? So so what they did was they kept me 750 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 2: away from all of us, so really couldn't like a laddie, 751 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. But then we had you know, 752 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 2: Mike Vickers, everybody's og and Vic was like, he said, 753 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 2: he had a team eating He said, look, man, what he. 754 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 5: Did was wrong, and I ain't for that shit either, 755 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 5: he said, but I've done a lot of things that 756 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 5: I'm sorry for. You know what I'm saying that that 757 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 5: I did that I really mean to dude. And he 758 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 5: was like, you know, we all have done stuff or 759 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 5: say things behind closed doors that ain't right. 760 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 2: And when he kindly did all that because it's who 761 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 2: he is and the respect that we gave him, we 762 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 2: was like, well, shit, we gonna give him a pass, 763 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So, but it was awkward 764 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 2: because now he get a pass. You had a block 765 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 2: for him, m M. 766 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 5: Or win in a game, right, and you know every 767 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 5: game we played, everybody showing do something thirty twenty and 768 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:30,719 Speaker 5: it's like I get why they want to hurt him, 769 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 5: but it's like, yo, this is our man. 770 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 2: Yeah now that was real awkward. 771 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 3: Wow, Yeah, yeah, that's tough. And that I got a 772 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 3: block for you and you just said what you just said, 773 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 3: It's like that was tough. 774 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 5: That was you know, everyone played certain games and love 775 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 5: you know, it's football thirty They punched it under pile 776 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 5: grab nuts. 777 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 2: Yeah you know what I mean, and the like you know, 778 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 2: they face man's trying to their eyes out. But I 779 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 2: got to protect him because he's my man, right. 780 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 3: And I do love to hear that about Michael Vick 781 00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 3: because he always got the rap that he was, especially 782 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 3: in Philly, that he that he wasn't a good leader 783 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 3: and he could Like that's great to even hear that 784 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 3: Vic was taking on that type of role, Like what 785 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 3: was his years like with Michael Vick? To me, is 786 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 3: like a superhero, Like what was it like even being 787 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,359 Speaker 3: in the same locker room with y'all? 788 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 5: Look, I got in the league at twenty years old. 789 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,879 Speaker 5: I was the youngest play in the league. So Mike Vicky, 790 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:20,879 Speaker 5: he did his little bit. He came he came home 791 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 5: right the Eagles, and I remember he walking to the 792 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:25,400 Speaker 5: uh he. 793 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 2: Walking into the to the facility whatever, and I'm said, 794 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 2: I say, what's up, y'all? Straight and woker, what's up? Yeah, 795 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,320 Speaker 2: what's up? What's good? All right? And he walked on. 796 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 2: You know, I would love to see that. I've ever 797 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 2: just talked all my Homi. He's like, yo dog. 798 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 3: I like, you can't say yo dog? 799 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 2: But yeah, right right, well, yeah, Vic, Well he was special. 800 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 2: He was like you know. 801 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,359 Speaker 5: The thing with Vic is he don't even understand how 802 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 5: how big he is. He don't really see who we icon. 803 00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 5: We in the club you got air force in the 804 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,400 Speaker 5: in the head man were like, yo, you like you 805 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:03,719 Speaker 5: might you don't even get it. 806 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,400 Speaker 3: Super humble, like do you know who you are? 807 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 2: Yeah? Like like take them take them jeans off, put some. 808 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 3: Real like yeah, yeah, he. 809 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 2: Was super humble. Bro. 810 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 5: One of the best teammates. He's one of the best. 811 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,400 Speaker 5: He's better person he is. This player, Bro is different. 812 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,320 Speaker 3: What was it What was that time like for you 813 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:21,760 Speaker 3: in Philly? 814 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,839 Speaker 4: Because I mean the city of Phi, Philadelphia to this day, 815 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,400 Speaker 4: you know they love you. Your time in Philly, what 816 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 4: you did for the Eagles is legendary. What was it 817 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 4: like that energy during your time in Philadelphia, Like just 818 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,840 Speaker 4: the fans, the city, the team, the organization. 819 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:41,279 Speaker 3: What was that time like for you? 820 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 2: Oh? 821 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 5: Man, Philly was special. You don't really helped me grow 822 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 5: to be like a man. You know what I'm saying, 823 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 5: Like I was twenty years old. Man, that's such a 824 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,360 Speaker 5: big city. You don't know what they expect. The fans 825 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 5: was great. Big sports always keep you keep you honest, 826 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,840 Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, Like I just got inducted 827 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 5: to the Eagles Hall of Fame congression this year. 828 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, and just saying, all the fans embrace me, man, 829 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:05,320 Speaker 2: just just love. 830 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 5: And I feel like as a as like a that's 831 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,720 Speaker 5: the closest thing to having like a real family in NFLA. 832 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 5: The NFL is always like in and out evolving door. 833 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,239 Speaker 5: Guys come in, guys come out. But the Eagles fan 834 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,360 Speaker 5: basing and and the ownership and all that, like they 835 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 5: really make you feel like a real family. Like there's 836 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 5: times where I talked to the owner all the time, 837 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:25,400 Speaker 5: you know what I mean. I'm hont at the players, 838 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 5: like trying to get sa Quanta come to Philly, like 839 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 5: I was trying to do that, trying to help out, 840 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,319 Speaker 5: and most teams don't really do that. They don't really 841 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 5: even care, you know what I mean. 842 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 2: So that was special man playing with the Shawn and 843 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 2: Dream MacMan all them dudes. You know, we're still tight 844 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 2: to this day. So I love my time in Philly, 845 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:43,879 Speaker 2: you know, and you know the fan base. 846 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 3: So he got the head coaching at Delaware State, right, Yeah, Jackson, 847 00:36:50,320 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 3: that love state for other reasons. Yeah, Classic. All right, 848 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:05,880 Speaker 3: where do you rank the Philly sports fan base across 849 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 3: the board? Like I think, of course Oakland Raiders, you know, 850 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 3: before they went to Vegas, that was always the stereotype. 851 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,320 Speaker 3: I don't know if there's a bigger group of animals 852 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 3: than the Philadelphia Eagles fan base. I have friends that 853 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,920 Speaker 3: are Eagles fans. They're great people individually, but when they 854 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 3: get together, they're the worst group of human beings I've 855 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:26,520 Speaker 3: ever seen in my life. You know, there's a riot 856 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 3: police section at the Eagle Stadium that's only in Philly. 857 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 3: That's not in any of the stadium There's. 858 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 2: No right they had a jail in there. 859 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,760 Speaker 3: Yes, no, there's a jail in the stadium. 860 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I would write Philly fans probably one one. 861 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think it's close. I don't think it's 862 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:45,960 Speaker 3: close to. 863 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,120 Speaker 2: They travel for bull crap, you know what I like? 864 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 5: And I like them because you know why, if the 865 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 5: team playing bad, they're gonna let you know, you know 866 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:56,359 Speaker 5: what I'm saying, Like we're paying money to be watching 867 00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:57,919 Speaker 5: these games, like and then. 868 00:37:57,880 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 2: Let's you know that. And I love them for that 869 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,719 Speaker 2: because they honest you know what I'm saying, and ain't 870 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,239 Speaker 2: for the bull crack. Don't be coming up very much 871 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:04,919 Speaker 2: your little cowboys or just don't talk to ship. 872 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 4: Yeah you might not leave with your your jersey on. 873 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,400 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah. What what was the music like in the 874 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 4: locker room with y'all? Because I mean, you're talking about 875 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,920 Speaker 4: DeShawn Jackson obviously from the West coast, you being from 876 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,360 Speaker 4: from from p a, vic being from from Virginia. 877 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 3: Like, what was the music like? 878 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 2: Like? 879 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,120 Speaker 3: What was y'all listening to in the locker room? 880 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,400 Speaker 5: So my personality is like, I'm like, I'm cool with everybody, 881 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 5: you know what I mean, country boys, white boys, black 882 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 5: dudes and everybody. So I was running the music for 883 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:36,040 Speaker 5: real and everything's up north from me. I was putting 884 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,239 Speaker 5: them boys on dip set on everything, and this gim 885 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,319 Speaker 5: was going crazy. Yeah, oblostly whole nas. 886 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,560 Speaker 2: Had I had that biggie, I had all that ship playing. 887 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 2: But DJ you know what, he put me on nipseason. 888 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:49,799 Speaker 3: Okay, I married at first. 889 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 2: I'll say, Yo, heren't really lyrical like I like, but 890 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,399 Speaker 2: he was good. He was teaching in his own way. 891 00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, I remember putting on He's put me on nipset 892 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,600 Speaker 5: this before he was all this. When he's telling the c's. 893 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,240 Speaker 3: Out the car or I remember that creall. 894 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:05,399 Speaker 2: Yeah. 895 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,880 Speaker 5: So Djack always had the West Coast sound. I remember 896 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:10,680 Speaker 5: when with him and meet Mans had a little loud 897 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 5: rap a little battle. 898 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I said, bro, listen. 899 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,160 Speaker 5: About to come here and talk about this that she 900 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:17,839 Speaker 5: ain't gonna win. 901 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:21,239 Speaker 2: Don't bet because he gonna me gonna have I ain't 902 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:22,759 Speaker 2: know who's a little stupid with at the time. 903 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, I said, he gonna have somebody in there that 904 00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,920 Speaker 5: can rap bat when we're gonna be mm And sure 905 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 5: enough his ass lost. 906 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 3: I told him that because you were in Philly, whin 907 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:36,040 Speaker 3: the meeking like game beef and that whole thing was happening, 908 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 3: right yeh yeah, what's what's your relationship like with me? 909 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 3: Since she was in Philly and obviously being a native 910 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:43,160 Speaker 3: of Pennsylvania. 911 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:44,799 Speaker 2: No, man, he was cool. 912 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 3: You know. 913 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:47,520 Speaker 5: We was the gamble hangout, you know what I'm saying, 914 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 5: party and all that. I just seen him at the 915 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:51,359 Speaker 5: Super Bowl, was hanging out. That's one thing about Philly. 916 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,920 Speaker 5: The all like the from the ball players, like the rappers, 917 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:56,759 Speaker 5: we all are like, we all are one. 918 00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 2: That's one thing I did like about Philly. Cool dude. 919 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, Now obviously the Eagles just won the Super Bowl. 920 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:07,720 Speaker 4: H this past season. It took one of our guys 921 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 4: that we had, our beloved sae Quon Barkley, had to 922 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,480 Speaker 4: go down to Turnpike and turn it up down there 923 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:13,240 Speaker 4: in Philly. 924 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:14,680 Speaker 3: I'm happy for him, happy that. 925 00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:16,719 Speaker 2: He got got a ring. That's real, that's real. 926 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,359 Speaker 3: Absolutely happy for Sequon. A giant fan. I hate y'all, 927 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,960 Speaker 3: but I was so happy for we get him so 928 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:23,640 Speaker 3: fucking dirty. 929 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:29,440 Speaker 4: Absolutely now and watching Saquon Barkley, what are some similarities 930 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 4: you see in you and sa Quon? And what are 931 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:36,080 Speaker 4: some of the differences in the style between you and Saquon? 932 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:39,200 Speaker 2: You know what, A lot of people be kind of like, 933 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:39,920 Speaker 2: stay there. 934 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,080 Speaker 5: I don't want to see a lot of similarities because, uh, 935 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:44,520 Speaker 5: the games are different. 936 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,040 Speaker 2: Like so me and him, we have a golf event 937 00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:50,400 Speaker 2: we do every year, bigger than me, you know what 938 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:50,799 Speaker 2: I'm saying. 939 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:52,719 Speaker 5: I think when people see him make moves all that, 940 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,640 Speaker 5: and they look at my moves like, yo, them guys 941 00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:56,239 Speaker 5: are shifty, but like a lot bigger than I am, 942 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,600 Speaker 5: you know. And I guess the part you would say 943 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:03,400 Speaker 5: we are similar is like we was real nice and 944 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,759 Speaker 5: we can make dudes mess and make highlights. But I 945 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:07,279 Speaker 5: think I think we're really different. I think he got 946 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,200 Speaker 5: his own style and this style is obviously working. He's 947 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,640 Speaker 5: more I think he's more god gifted than I am. 948 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 5: You know, I come at I don't know what six 949 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,600 Speaker 5: foot like two o seven. I ain't never really waits 950 00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 5: everybodys into that where he's a dude that like he's 951 00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:23,880 Speaker 5: always been a lifter, it's always been working hard in 952 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:25,920 Speaker 5: the gym, like I ain't really I didn't really do 953 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:27,680 Speaker 5: none of that. And I think the way we played 954 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:29,480 Speaker 5: was good because we both was like it's closer and 955 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:30,080 Speaker 5: got busy. 956 00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 2: Well, we just different. I think our styles is abt different. 957 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:37,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean definitely the shiftingess once he got to 958 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,080 Speaker 3: the Giants, I think it it emulated you for sure. 959 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,520 Speaker 3: But because he's stocky, I don't I see what you're saying. 960 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:46,279 Speaker 3: But y'all definitely do have a same shift as far 961 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,120 Speaker 3: as how y'all move in between gaps and how y'all Like, yeah, 962 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,280 Speaker 3: I see why people say it. Y'all just have different 963 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:52,080 Speaker 3: body types. 964 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:54,399 Speaker 2: And they're like man wo man talk like we laughed 965 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,319 Speaker 2: about it. You know what I'm saying. But one thing 966 00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,399 Speaker 2: I do, I will say, but I know he had 967 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:00,799 Speaker 2: this from not knowing like I know him and we. 968 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:02,759 Speaker 5: Were talking, but it wasn't like when he came in 969 00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,000 Speaker 5: Philly rocking really hot at him and really be around him. 970 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:09,400 Speaker 5: I didn't know he was that competitive, you know, like Washington, 971 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:13,520 Speaker 5: Penn State. He looked talented Washington, the giants like you know, hm, But. 972 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 2: I don't know how competitive he was. I'm a real competitor, 973 00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:16,600 Speaker 2: like I hate to lose. 974 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,640 Speaker 3: And listen, I'll tell you how competitive he is. He 975 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,160 Speaker 3: beat mall and karaoke. I was at to see that 976 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,480 Speaker 3: he's so competitive. He beat Mall in karaoke at a 977 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:29,799 Speaker 3: birthday party. That's a fact, real. Yeah no, no, yeah, 978 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,759 Speaker 3: he did not. He's so saying karaoke I didn't. It 979 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:34,400 Speaker 3: wasn't because it was a competition. 980 00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:34,879 Speaker 2: It wasn't. 981 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,640 Speaker 3: He smoked everybody. I did not sing at all. He 982 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,040 Speaker 3: saw that karaoke mic and said, I'm smoking everybody in 983 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:40,480 Speaker 3: the mall. 984 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:40,759 Speaker 2: He did. 985 00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:41,560 Speaker 3: He did his thing. 986 00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,840 Speaker 5: To see him showing because we golf and like, I 987 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:47,319 Speaker 5: don't really golf like that, but I talk a lot 988 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,759 Speaker 5: of ship. So my team played his team, it's like 989 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:51,840 Speaker 5: his college team, my college team, and we played and 990 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,759 Speaker 5: week won, and you know I'm talking with ship, you 991 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:56,480 Speaker 5: know what I mean? Yeah, And I can see how 992 00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:57,760 Speaker 5: I said, oh he cares. 993 00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,160 Speaker 2: I was just to see though, because now if you 994 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,880 Speaker 2: care about little golf, you care about yeah, and he 995 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:04,640 Speaker 2: plays like that. So I'm like to see that. 996 00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:09,000 Speaker 3: You went up to UH to Buffalo. So at minimum 997 00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:13,000 Speaker 3: twice a season you saw Bill Belichick. I have to ask, 998 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,720 Speaker 3: you know, the question that's on everyone's minds football related. 999 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:17,919 Speaker 3: Did he always give sugar Daddy vipes? 1000 00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,759 Speaker 2: You know? No, you know what I want some Bill though, 1001 00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,680 Speaker 2: he been so angry and mad and trying to like 1002 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:30,640 Speaker 2: when this thing is like now he now is he 1003 00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,040 Speaker 2: He's getting his ass beat and now he's like, all right, 1004 00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:35,960 Speaker 2: twenty four stuff is over. That be a enjoyed life 1005 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:37,560 Speaker 2: money I got bad. 1006 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:39,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, let me give me a little bad little twenty 1007 00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:41,640 Speaker 6: five Like you know, I'm gonna do yoga on the beach, 1008 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:44,840 Speaker 6: come on, picking his shirt off and on, like. 1009 00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:48,279 Speaker 3: He was wearing hoodies that were cut off. 1010 00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:48,480 Speaker 2: Here. 1011 00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,640 Speaker 3: I'm happy Bill, and finally gave build some style what 1012 00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:52,880 Speaker 3: it is. But yeah, he's just a. 1013 00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:53,560 Speaker 2: Never build up. 1014 00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,120 Speaker 5: I only rock a Bill like that because like you 1015 00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,239 Speaker 5: had Brady though, you know, how blessed that is that Brady? Yeah, 1016 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,040 Speaker 5: and you win it and you're still not happy with Brady. 1017 00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,240 Speaker 5: Like what we're talking about teams with DoD to have Brady. 1018 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:09,719 Speaker 4: That's a fact. Now speaking of Brady like he ain't 1019 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,400 Speaker 4: nothing like what? Yeah, speaking of Brady? You you you 1020 00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,320 Speaker 4: played damn that, I'm thinking about it. You played with 1021 00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:18,280 Speaker 4: Michael Vick, You played with Pat Mahomes. 1022 00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:22,280 Speaker 2: Brady and Brady. Now with those and Josh Allen. 1023 00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:27,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, god damn now with those, with those four quarterbacks? 1024 00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:28,080 Speaker 2: Right? 1025 00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:31,240 Speaker 3: What are if you had him on the draft board 1026 00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:36,640 Speaker 3: right down in front of you, Vic Brady, no accolades, nothing, You. 1027 00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:38,839 Speaker 2: Just donald that he was nice? 1028 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,160 Speaker 3: God? Oh yeah, I forgot he was at the end 1029 00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:41,320 Speaker 3: of that. 1030 00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:43,480 Speaker 2: Real quick, I know what you're about to ask, real quick. 1031 00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,719 Speaker 2: The last month did this. That's when Josh was the 1032 00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,000 Speaker 2: second year, so he won't even You don't even know 1033 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:50,839 Speaker 2: who Josh Allen really was. I did I know how 1034 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:52,560 Speaker 2: good he was? Yeah? He said he was mad, And 1035 00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:56,439 Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, damn dog. Yeah, I called you twice. 1036 00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:57,320 Speaker 2: You texted me. 1037 00:44:57,640 --> 00:44:59,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he don't want to talk to you, said. 1038 00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:03,919 Speaker 2: He said, Yeah, man, I see I seen your quarterback list. Yeah, 1039 00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:08,400 Speaker 2: so you talk about players being Yeah, in his second year, 1040 00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:10,040 Speaker 2: he won't even a star yet. He was like, Yo, 1041 00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:11,839 Speaker 2: you didn't have me as elite, dude. 1042 00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:17,520 Speaker 3: You had me over Brady didn't right, right, right, So 1043 00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,280 Speaker 3: you had me over Michael Vick, who had one thousand 1044 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:22,040 Speaker 3: yards rushing. 1045 00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:27,120 Speaker 4: So in all of those quarterbacks you play with, who 1046 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:31,319 Speaker 4: is the guy that if you just saw them play 1047 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:33,920 Speaker 4: no accolade, just saw them on the field, working out, 1048 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,560 Speaker 4: throwing the ball, who is the one you'd be like, 1049 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:38,800 Speaker 4: I want to I want him to be my quarterback. 1050 00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:40,440 Speaker 3: I want to run for him. 1051 00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,080 Speaker 2: Hold on real quick, because like that's that's the questions. Like, 1052 00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,800 Speaker 2: so you're saying, if everybody's. 1053 00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:49,920 Speaker 3: Out heard the yard, just throwing the ball, run throwing, 1054 00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,000 Speaker 3: just running and throwing. I mean number one. 1055 00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,360 Speaker 2: But that's hard because like football ain't just that. 1056 00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, now, okay, I'll answer. 1057 00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:00,560 Speaker 5: Your question that I'm gonna ask you. I'm gonna put 1058 00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:02,320 Speaker 5: it in this in a in a scenario where like 1059 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,080 Speaker 5: it makes more sense for me. All right, So I 1060 00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:11,080 Speaker 5: probably would take Josh Allen on all them dudes. Really, 1061 00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:14,120 Speaker 5: if you just talk if your question is yo, if 1062 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:17,600 Speaker 5: you in a park, yes, dogs and cats run around 1063 00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,160 Speaker 5: and we got a football field and you was just 1064 00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:21,600 Speaker 5: throwing the ball, running and all that. 1065 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's no, but I have to get pushed 1066 00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,840 Speaker 3: back the way Patrick Mahomes has actually changed the quarterback 1067 00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:32,080 Speaker 3: position in the way he plays school yard ball in 1068 00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:38,680 Speaker 3: the highest level of the NFL. Different different if you 1069 00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:40,440 Speaker 3: just run around in a park. I don't know if 1070 00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,800 Speaker 3: anyone besides Pat Mahomes might be number one period in 1071 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,040 Speaker 3: NFL history backyard football. 1072 00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,960 Speaker 2: So pack the best quarterback today for sure, and I 1073 00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,720 Speaker 2: think passed the best. Right. But when you're just talking. 1074 00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:54,160 Speaker 5: About that, you just said with a T shirt on 1075 00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,280 Speaker 5: and just throwing the ball around, running around, Josh Allen, 1076 00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:58,400 Speaker 5: if you raise Michael. 1077 00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,799 Speaker 2: Vick, Michael Vick will win. It's gonna be a close 1078 00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:01,759 Speaker 2: racing what people think. 1079 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:03,120 Speaker 3: Okay, God damn okay. 1080 00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:05,880 Speaker 5: When they all stand next to each other, though, Job's 1081 00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:07,840 Speaker 5: gonna look way bigger than all these dudes. 1082 00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:13,040 Speaker 2: All Right, he'll run you over with you in his way. 1083 00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:14,600 Speaker 5: He might make you miss it. You in his way, 1084 00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:16,759 Speaker 5: he toughest nails. And then we're gonna tell who had 1085 00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:21,600 Speaker 5: the stroller's arm. Now, he probably got the stroller's arm 1086 00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:23,759 Speaker 5: probly out of him. And Pat, I remember when I 1087 00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:25,759 Speaker 5: when I was when I went to Kansity, was talking 1088 00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:27,440 Speaker 5: to Pat about just you know, quarterbacks and all that, 1089 00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,680 Speaker 5: and I'm an instagarious I might have brought it up 1090 00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:32,319 Speaker 5: to him and he was like, well, I'll probably never 1091 00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,799 Speaker 5: do like a throw off with Josh because it's iced 1092 00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,080 Speaker 5: to lose, lose because it's like, yo, I'm supposed to win, 1093 00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,080 Speaker 5: but Pat got a or Josh got a crazy arm, 1094 00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:41,960 Speaker 5: so he'll be close either. 1095 00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:42,520 Speaker 2: You cut it. 1096 00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:46,200 Speaker 5: Now, that's one part of it. Now we just said, yo, 1097 00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:51,480 Speaker 5: I'm in the on a football team, and the intelligence, 1098 00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:55,440 Speaker 5: the winning, all that stuff with quarterbacks do matters. Then 1099 00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:58,520 Speaker 5: the first dude off the table is Tom because he 1100 00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,600 Speaker 5: can't run a lick and he's burning Everybody's smarter than 1101 00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:03,920 Speaker 5: everybody knows the dude, and he's a competitor. 1102 00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:05,839 Speaker 2: That that mother right there. 1103 00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:09,359 Speaker 5: So I would go with Tom, and then I would 1104 00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,040 Speaker 5: probably go with past second, and then I would go 1105 00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:17,799 Speaker 5: Alan third, and then fourth would be uh prime, Vic. 1106 00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:19,359 Speaker 2: Damn. 1107 00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:20,080 Speaker 3: I would have thrown. 1108 00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:22,080 Speaker 4: Vic would have been up higher like on the list, 1109 00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:25,680 Speaker 4: because I mean just remember Michael Vick playing obviously a 1110 00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:28,600 Speaker 4: great runner, great athlete, but I think Vic's arm was 1111 00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:30,120 Speaker 4: really underrated for. 1112 00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,279 Speaker 3: A lot of years, a lot of years. 1113 00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,759 Speaker 4: I think Michael Vick as a passer was was very 1114 00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:36,640 Speaker 4: underrated because coming in it was like, you know, this guy, 1115 00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:38,960 Speaker 4: he breaks the pocket, but he can go and get 1116 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:40,960 Speaker 4: you a first down, get you a touchdown. But then 1117 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,600 Speaker 4: when he you know, when his later years, it's like, okay, 1118 00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:45,080 Speaker 4: I can't really just get out of this pocket and 1119 00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:45,640 Speaker 4: start running. 1120 00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,160 Speaker 2: I think it was better with the English I was saying. 1121 00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,200 Speaker 3: In Philly, I think he proved that point way more 1122 00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:50,960 Speaker 3: than he did in Atlanta. 1123 00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:52,600 Speaker 4: Well he I mean he had he had to Shawn 1124 00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:56,799 Speaker 4: out there running every fucking going defense play like throw 1125 00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:57,840 Speaker 4: that s going to. 1126 00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,200 Speaker 5: Get because I always want to hear like people's it's 1127 00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,920 Speaker 5: not ball players. So so you you would, So you're 1128 00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:06,320 Speaker 5: telling me you would take Mike over Hu though you 1129 00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:06,800 Speaker 5: said you'll be. 1130 00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,160 Speaker 4: If I'm looking at that, if I had those four, 1131 00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:15,520 Speaker 4: I'm thinking I probably would either go Mike Vic or 1132 00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:16,680 Speaker 4: Pat Mahomes first. 1133 00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:20,919 Speaker 3: One of those two, I would go Pat, Mike Josh 1134 00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:24,279 Speaker 3: Allen Brady as far as in the park school yard 1135 00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:27,280 Speaker 3: football Park, Yeah, no, the all time. 1136 00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:28,960 Speaker 2: And Brady is sorry, I think the rank is on 1137 00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,600 Speaker 2: the football park on football. 1138 00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:32,960 Speaker 3: I mean Brady is first to me. 1139 00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,879 Speaker 5: Yeah, so so, oh, I'm sorry, that's my bed. Okay, 1140 00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:39,080 Speaker 5: so we say in the park, Yeah, okay, John should 1141 00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:39,799 Speaker 5: be first in the park. 1142 00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:45,000 Speaker 2: Then I'm going with Mahomes, then Vic than Brady. Okay, 1143 00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:48,040 Speaker 2: because Mahomes, like you said, Mahlmes be looking left. He 1144 00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:51,040 Speaker 2: would throw that thing right and be accurate. Yeah. And 1145 00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:54,680 Speaker 2: he's more lucive than what people think. They see his stomach, 1146 00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,960 Speaker 2: They see how I talked like he ain't patter athlete. 1147 00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:01,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, he just the way he'd be doing 1148 00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,960 Speaker 3: the shovel passes for thirty yards is the crazy shit 1149 00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:05,440 Speaker 3: I've ever seen. 1150 00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:08,920 Speaker 5: Like that's and he's a competitor. I watched this time 1151 00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:10,840 Speaker 5: we had attacked. I won't even say his name, but 1152 00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:13,200 Speaker 5: he was really good. And every day of the week 1153 00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:14,960 Speaker 5: he kept checking on like, yo, is he gonna play? 1154 00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:16,319 Speaker 2: Is he gonna play? Every day? 1155 00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:20,239 Speaker 5: Well we get to the last day is Friday. If 1156 00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:23,000 Speaker 5: you really don't make the injury report, then you won't play. 1157 00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,560 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Man, Pat walking down ship, 1158 00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:28,719 Speaker 5: he said, is he playing? They the doctors and the 1159 00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:31,120 Speaker 5: players started like mumbling like kind of you know, give 1160 00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:33,680 Speaker 5: me some jumbo, saying a lot, but not saying nothing. 1161 00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:35,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, he said, he said. 1162 00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:42,399 Speaker 2: Fuck met him. Yeah, and he won as a running 1163 00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:44,400 Speaker 2: real quick TV don't show you that part though, right, 1164 00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:45,399 Speaker 2: ye dog? 1165 00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:50,799 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, as as a running back, being with those 1166 00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:54,000 Speaker 3: legendary quarterbacks, do you think that was an advantage or 1167 00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:57,920 Speaker 3: disadvantage as far as maybe the defense was focused more 1168 00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:00,920 Speaker 3: on the past, so giving the the you was easier, 1169 00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:03,160 Speaker 3: or the fact that hey, we're just focusing on the 1170 00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:03,719 Speaker 3: passing game. 1171 00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:04,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1172 00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:06,319 Speaker 5: So I'll say this though, you know, I wasn't really 1173 00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:08,040 Speaker 5: blessed to play them dudes in my prime prime. So 1174 00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:11,000 Speaker 5: I played with uh, I played with Pat and Tom 1175 00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:14,400 Speaker 5: at the last two years of my career, right. And 1176 00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:16,680 Speaker 5: then when I played with Josh, he was a rookie 1177 00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:17,880 Speaker 5: so like he he. 1178 00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,920 Speaker 3: Was talented, but he wanted good still respect though. 1179 00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:26,480 Speaker 5: And then when I played with a Mike, I see 1180 00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:28,480 Speaker 5: the mic thing was weird because Mike was good, but 1181 00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:30,480 Speaker 5: like it should have ran through me because I was 1182 00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:32,000 Speaker 5: I was the one that was making all first team, 1183 00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:32,560 Speaker 5: all prosy. 1184 00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:34,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, showing they they weren't doing that. It was good, 1185 00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:36,719 Speaker 2: but they weren't doing that right, And we would throw 1186 00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:40,560 Speaker 2: the ball so much. Well, now you might get a 1187 00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:42,440 Speaker 2: pick or two or fumble or you know what I mean, 1188 00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:44,400 Speaker 2: me throwing it so much? If you look at how 1189 00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:45,120 Speaker 2: they used Lamar and. 1190 00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:49,040 Speaker 5: Jackson, they ran the ball a lot with Derrick Henry 1191 00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:51,360 Speaker 5: and they let Lamar run a little bit. But he 1192 00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,560 Speaker 5: ain't throwing it like thirty sometimes a game, right, we was, 1193 00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:56,440 Speaker 5: we was throwing the ball with Mike like like it 1194 00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,400 Speaker 5: was like it was payment or or you know what 1195 00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:01,600 Speaker 5: I'm saying. And it's not just to him, but it's 1196 00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:04,560 Speaker 5: like his game is he can throw the ball, but 1197 00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:06,160 Speaker 5: he can run too, Like why are we gonna make 1198 00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:07,840 Speaker 5: him do all that throwing? 1199 00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:08,399 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1200 00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:10,879 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, did you see a difference with Andy 1201 00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:14,759 Speaker 3: Reid in Philly versus KC? Like what was the difference there? 1202 00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:19,160 Speaker 5: So so he didn't call plays in Philadelphia, you know 1203 00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:20,719 Speaker 5: what I'm saying, He just looked over everything where he 1204 00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,040 Speaker 5: called plays in Kansas City. I remember saying, tell him 1205 00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:25,200 Speaker 5: like yo ah, these exciting plays you got why you 1206 00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:26,839 Speaker 5: ain't cost when I was there? So he didn't really 1207 00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:30,840 Speaker 5: call plays, yeah you know. But but then again, like 1208 00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:34,480 Speaker 5: Mike's skills set different from Pats, yeah you know, and 1209 00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:35,799 Speaker 5: then sometimes being honest, like. 1210 00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:38,440 Speaker 2: If Pats thrown it. 1211 00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:41,680 Speaker 5: Thirty eight forty times, like he might get a pick 1212 00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:44,319 Speaker 5: because he'll throw some picks too, Like like you got 1213 00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:46,279 Speaker 5: to be a certain type of talent to do all 1214 00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:49,719 Speaker 5: that unless you're throwing like bubble screens or you know, 1215 00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:50,560 Speaker 5: safe passes. 1216 00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,359 Speaker 2: Peyton Manny's and Tom they can do that shit. 1217 00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:56,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. Now, we just had the 1218 00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:58,719 Speaker 3: We just had the NFL Draft and. 1219 00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:02,600 Speaker 4: You know, obviously the talk of the night with Shador 1220 00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:06,840 Speaker 4: slide into the fifth round as somebody that's you know, 1221 00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:10,240 Speaker 4: obviously been in that position yourself, what was your thoughts 1222 00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:13,640 Speaker 4: in that moment, like as far as just being a player, 1223 00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:15,239 Speaker 4: Like going back to that moment of you being on 1224 00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:17,320 Speaker 4: the board and waiting to hear your name call, Like 1225 00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:19,000 Speaker 4: did you number one, did you think you do it 1226 00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,800 Speaker 4: would slide that that far down in the draft? And 1227 00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:24,480 Speaker 4: number two? Do you do you think it's more a 1228 00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:28,399 Speaker 4: political thing or maybe as a as a player. I'm 1229 00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:31,480 Speaker 4: just I'm asking the players, do you feel like you've 1230 00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:34,960 Speaker 4: seen something that should do where he's not quite ready 1231 00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:36,600 Speaker 4: or what y'all think he is yet? 1232 00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,239 Speaker 2: Yo, man, Like we could do this, but y'all know 1233 00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,120 Speaker 2: what's going on. Y'all know what's going That's when you 1234 00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:44,719 Speaker 2: asked a question that was yeah, that was crazy, bro. 1235 00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:47,640 Speaker 5: Then like, now you got a player on your team 1236 00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:51,440 Speaker 5: that you took in the third round, quarterback. Yeah, did 1237 00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:54,200 Speaker 5: everybody know you're not even good at your door in 1238 00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:57,279 Speaker 5: the fifth round? Like so, if let's say it was 1239 00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:58,840 Speaker 5: as good as your thought he was, and maybe he 1240 00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:01,279 Speaker 5: thought he's burning, what he is is dads, dion. So 1241 00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,160 Speaker 5: everybody also gonna fee like they better, you know, because 1242 00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,279 Speaker 5: that's what don and it starts in his kids, like 1243 00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:08,560 Speaker 5: you order ship, which is not wrong with that? 1244 00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:12,799 Speaker 2: Right? Well, y'all telling me a fifth round draft figure? Right? 1245 00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,200 Speaker 2: So check this out. So I've been playing ball a 1246 00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:15,680 Speaker 2: long time. 1247 00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:23,359 Speaker 5: I've never heard a coach or franchise come out and say, well, 1248 00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:25,200 Speaker 5: we got a third round draft pick we drafted, we 1249 00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:27,839 Speaker 5: got a fifth round draft pick we got we got 1250 00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:31,200 Speaker 5: an old ast quarterback and Joe Flacco who's like forty, 1251 00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:32,200 Speaker 5: Ce's like oldest the older. 1252 00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:35,120 Speaker 2: All of a sudden, it's on this call for the zone, right, 1253 00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:38,960 Speaker 2: and then you got a young quarterback that struggled in 1254 00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:43,880 Speaker 2: his career, but he made some splashes in Philadelphia, but 1255 00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:48,120 Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh he wasn't that good. Okay, they said, you know, 1256 00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:48,719 Speaker 2: what we're gonna do. 1257 00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:50,960 Speaker 5: They told the whole world, is the whole you know, 1258 00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:53,640 Speaker 5: the media, that we're gonna split the rets from the 1259 00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:55,359 Speaker 5: first team and the second team. 1260 00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,360 Speaker 2: Now since I've been playing, it don't happen like that. 1261 00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,880 Speaker 5: The starter gets the number one reps, the back of 1262 00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:06,080 Speaker 5: gets the number two reps. The third and fifth round 1263 00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:08,600 Speaker 5: draft pick. That's in football, that's not that's nothing. That's 1264 00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:12,160 Speaker 5: like fifth round there, there's nothing. You know, you won't 1265 00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:14,040 Speaker 5: let the fifth rounder get some second team reps in 1266 00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:15,759 Speaker 5: the fifth in the first team reps, normally they go 1267 00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:18,960 Speaker 5: with the fourth string, third string. So they'll let you 1268 00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:22,760 Speaker 5: know that everybody in this room we got are Eagle 1269 00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:26,799 Speaker 5: for real, and that he could potentially start because he's 1270 00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:27,440 Speaker 5: a fifth rounder. 1271 00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:30,719 Speaker 2: He shouldn't even be taking no Number one reps. So 1272 00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:33,080 Speaker 2: y'all did all that bullshit with the draft. 1273 00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:36,080 Speaker 5: M h to have your fifth round draft pick now 1274 00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:38,800 Speaker 5: be taking number second teen reps and first team reps. 1275 00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:40,399 Speaker 2: They tell me how that makes sense? 1276 00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:43,960 Speaker 5: That what that was was, listen, got this young black 1277 00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:47,719 Speaker 5: kid who don't need the pros. That's calming down a 1278 00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:48,560 Speaker 5: little bit, a little. 1279 00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:49,000 Speaker 2: Bit too cocky. 1280 00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:51,399 Speaker 3: The ego check, Yeah, ego check. 1281 00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:53,399 Speaker 2: I didn't like that ship. 1282 00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:55,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought that. I thought that it was. 1283 00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:57,600 Speaker 4: It was crazy only because when you start looking around 1284 00:55:57,680 --> 00:55:59,719 Speaker 4: and look at all the analysts and where they had him, 1285 00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:02,600 Speaker 4: and look at all the mock drafts, like I think 1286 00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:04,359 Speaker 4: the lowest I saw it was like they had him 1287 00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:08,440 Speaker 4: like late first, early second. But now when you get 1288 00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:12,160 Speaker 4: to third, fourth, everybody's like, Okay, clearly this isn't you know, 1289 00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:13,920 Speaker 4: they going that coach prime. 1290 00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:17,560 Speaker 3: You know, they don't like it. As politics things like that. 1291 00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:20,680 Speaker 4: Even the president, even Donald Trump chim did on that 1292 00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:22,680 Speaker 4: and was like, like, people are just stupid. 1293 00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:23,279 Speaker 3: There's no way. 1294 00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:26,280 Speaker 4: His dad is a great player, DNA, he's a champion, 1295 00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:28,959 Speaker 4: he's a street smart and all these things. Donald Trump 1296 00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:31,040 Speaker 4: was saying. He was like, there's no way that you 1297 00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:33,399 Speaker 4: do is saying it should be a fifth round draft pick. 1298 00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was crazy. Before we get out of here. 1299 00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:40,560 Speaker 3: Top five Philly Rappers of all time? 1300 00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:46,680 Speaker 2: Oh uh? Top five? 1301 00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:51,200 Speaker 3: Top five, I'm gonna go. 1302 00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:58,520 Speaker 2: Damn. The hard part is because I'm a meek fan. 1303 00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:00,839 Speaker 2: I love meat though I guess too, but I got 1304 00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:04,560 Speaker 2: but see I love seagull. That's a tough one, yo, 1305 00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:06,759 Speaker 2: that's a tough one. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go 1306 00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:11,200 Speaker 2: with mm hmm h. 1307 00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:13,520 Speaker 3: Philly has a lot a lot of split out of 1308 00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:15,080 Speaker 3: rappers in Philly, I know. 1309 00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:17,320 Speaker 5: But I'm just talking about that. That that so I 1310 00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:18,160 Speaker 5: guess number one. 1311 00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:19,560 Speaker 2: I will go. 1312 00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:26,560 Speaker 5: Uh, I'm gonna go meet Meles, you know him and 1313 00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:28,200 Speaker 5: him See was a tough one though, ain't. That's a 1314 00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:28,760 Speaker 5: tough one for me. 1315 00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:30,320 Speaker 2: This for me, that's a tough one. I'm gonna go. 1316 00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:36,840 Speaker 5: Uh, I'm gonna go being second right, I'm gonna go. 1317 00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:44,880 Speaker 5: I'm gonna go Cassie third, Okay, no matter that. 1318 00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:48,120 Speaker 2: I love cast. Like you're talking about battle rap, he's 1319 00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:53,520 Speaker 2: the first one throwing on you know. Hm, that's three four. 1320 00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:57,000 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go. It's gonna suck you up a little bit, 1321 00:57:57,080 --> 00:58:00,200 Speaker 2: but I'm gonna go. Uh, I'm gonna e. 1322 00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:02,760 Speaker 3: I'm not mad at that at all. I'm not mad 1323 00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:05,760 Speaker 3: at that. I was just having a conversation. I'm not 1324 00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:09,040 Speaker 3: mad at that. Eve has my favorite voice of a 1325 00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:12,040 Speaker 3: female rapper. Just her voice, to me, is the best 1326 00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:13,560 Speaker 3: female rap voice her. 1327 00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:17,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not go to New York, but yeah, I'm 1328 00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:21,360 Speaker 5: gonna go fifth on. I guess I'm buying because I 1329 00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:23,160 Speaker 5: like some of the people. I like, you know, you 1330 00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:27,320 Speaker 5: go free, but I'm gonna go Uh, I'm gonna go 1331 00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:27,840 Speaker 5: Young Chris. 1332 00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:30,880 Speaker 4: I'm not mad at that at all. Definitely not mad 1333 00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:33,320 Speaker 4: that makes sense to me. Definitely not mad at that. 1334 00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:35,240 Speaker 4: I love I love with him and Roder. Him and 1335 00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:37,840 Speaker 4: Roder put out they tape one of my favorite tapes. 1336 00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:42,240 Speaker 3: Chris, Chris, He's gonna bene, He's gonna He's gonna always 1337 00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:44,360 Speaker 3: be an elite, elite rapper. 1338 00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:47,280 Speaker 2: I love Young real quick because you're outsider. Was you 1339 00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:50,800 Speaker 2: had being me first over me? 1340 00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:55,400 Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, Being's one of my favorite rappers ever. Yeah. 1341 00:58:56,000 --> 00:59:01,160 Speaker 4: Ship Yeah, the Becoming, the Reason, the Truth, like those albums, 1342 00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:01,800 Speaker 4: it's just. 1343 00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:04,720 Speaker 3: Like Time and two with my age, Like Beans was 1344 00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:07,640 Speaker 3: the one for me. But I mean I would even 1345 00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:11,160 Speaker 3: put on some like rap Nerdy Ship Black Thought has 1346 00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:15,840 Speaker 3: to be in that conversation, even close to like a number, 1347 00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:17,880 Speaker 3: like you could make a case that he would be 1348 00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:21,040 Speaker 3: the number one rapper, rapper, rapper from Philly told him 1349 00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:24,000 Speaker 3: just technically rapper. Yeah, but I mean I would put Beans. 1350 00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:30,960 Speaker 3: I put Beans one, Black Thought two, uh three, I 1351 00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:34,360 Speaker 3: would I probably put this is my personal ship Freeway 1352 00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:44,280 Speaker 3: Unique would be four Ship five. It's funny you said 1353 00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:50,120 Speaker 3: young Chris because that he's kind of like he's right there. 1354 00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:53,240 Speaker 3: He got me doubt I probably put Chris right there too. 1355 00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:57,120 Speaker 3: I'd actually, as far as rapping, I probably prefer Chris 1356 00:59:57,200 --> 01:00:00,080 Speaker 3: over Cassidy. But I feel like that's disrespectful because that 1357 01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:03,160 Speaker 3: I'm a hustler album. Like, it's kind of fucked up 1358 01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:04,600 Speaker 3: to not put Cassidy in the top five. 1359 01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:08,400 Speaker 2: And I like, like, like I like the bars. 1360 01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:11,800 Speaker 5: I'm a bar dude, but also like when you leave 1361 01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:15,240 Speaker 5: Philadelphia and you go to Houston or you go to wherever, 1362 01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:18,640 Speaker 5: like some people represent to see the right way, you 1363 01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:21,200 Speaker 5: know what I mean? Yeah, cast he was one of 1364 01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:23,680 Speaker 5: them dudes that Yo, my Philly should people want to know, 1365 01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:26,120 Speaker 5: you know, because stuff I done did so I think 1366 01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:27,680 Speaker 5: about all that, like the production. 1367 01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:29,280 Speaker 2: Party in the actual bars. 1368 01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:31,360 Speaker 3: You know, well, y'all are disrespectful because no one brought 1369 01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:40,000 Speaker 3: up Will Smith Listen, I love, I love say like, 1370 01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:41,200 Speaker 3: y'all disrespectful. 1371 01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:44,240 Speaker 2: You know. You know what I'm gonna tell you, Gilly 1372 01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:46,160 Speaker 2: this ship Gilly, Like, yo, why did I make that? Yeah? 1373 01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:49,480 Speaker 3: Gilly definitely gonna be put no disrespect on Gilly's name 1374 01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:53,240 Speaker 3: because especially we're going back to my era with beans 1375 01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:55,640 Speaker 3: A like Gilly's mixtapes was our ship in high school. 1376 01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:58,360 Speaker 3: Gilly is definitely in that conversation. I wouldn't even be 1377 01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:01,520 Speaker 3: mad with the young Chris versus Gilly. Gilly is up there. 1378 01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:03,640 Speaker 3: I don't want to expect Gilly Gilly. 1379 01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:05,920 Speaker 4: I go really like, if you're going Gilly, I'm going 1380 01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:09,800 Speaker 4: Dutch in Spade like I go into that type of Yeah, yeah, 1381 01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:12,000 Speaker 4: I go yeah, I go into that like y'all go 1382 01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:12,760 Speaker 4: old skiing O. 1383 01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:13,400 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 1384 01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:17,400 Speaker 4: I go into like that type of Philly hell yeah. 1385 01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:20,760 Speaker 4: But yeah, he Nets right now is going crack. He 1386 01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:22,840 Speaker 4: put out a freestyle every other week. He going crazy, 1387 01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:25,120 Speaker 4: but he don't have it's the music. 1388 01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:27,440 Speaker 3: He don't have the songs. Yeah, they're just not going. 1389 01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:30,840 Speaker 3: But he Nets for sure is up there. He deserves no, definitely, 1390 01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:34,480 Speaker 3: that's still he's still rapping. He's still going crazy. I 1391 01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:37,680 Speaker 3: mean they never really raped Philly like that. But corrupt 1392 01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:39,960 Speaker 3: and left eye, I feel like need to be somewhat. 1393 01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:43,240 Speaker 4: In a corrupt Never he'll never say Philly now he 1394 01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:46,360 Speaker 4: do every now and then. Yeah, Yeah he let people know. Yeah, 1395 01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:46,920 Speaker 4: he let people know. 1396 01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:48,919 Speaker 3: He for Philly for sure, but left eye think needs 1397 01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:51,200 Speaker 3: to be in that conversation as well, even though she 1398 01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:52,480 Speaker 3: landed with TLC. 1399 01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:56,160 Speaker 4: Ship but she did Philly. Yeah, absolutely shady. Before we 1400 01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:58,240 Speaker 4: let you go, what is your prediction this year for. 1401 01:01:58,280 --> 01:01:59,919 Speaker 3: The Super Bowl? Who's taking it all? The ship? 1402 01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:01,400 Speaker 2: The Eagles? 1403 01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:03,439 Speaker 3: Well next year, well let. 1404 01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:05,560 Speaker 2: It by y'all man from New York, saquon back at 1405 01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:05,800 Speaker 2: it you. 1406 01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:07,320 Speaker 3: Then they gonna do it again, go back to back. 1407 01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:10,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they team that same team. 1408 01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:14,880 Speaker 4: Man, case gonna be I think CAC gonna be right there, 1409 01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:16,240 Speaker 4: Buffalo gonna be right there again. 1410 01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:19,720 Speaker 2: I think either case buffal that play. But the Eagle 1411 01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:20,480 Speaker 2: team too good? Bro? 1412 01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:23,560 Speaker 3: What what's wrong in Buffalo? Like, what's going on? Why 1413 01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:24,720 Speaker 3: has Buffalo not made it there? 1414 01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:25,800 Speaker 2: Let me tell you why? 1415 01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:26,720 Speaker 1: Bro? 1416 01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:29,800 Speaker 2: You play the Jugger Knouts every year? Yeah? If they? 1417 01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:33,200 Speaker 5: If the Bills play in the NFC, they at the 1418 01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:36,640 Speaker 5: Super Bowl every year like the Chiefs. It's hard to 1419 01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:39,280 Speaker 5: be Patrins and Andy Reid. Andy read the best coaching 1420 01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:40,120 Speaker 5: football of all time? 1421 01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:40,280 Speaker 2: Bro? 1422 01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:45,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yes, you gotta go out. Well, but you 1423 01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:46,439 Speaker 3: got him over Bill. 1424 01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:47,919 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1425 01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:49,760 Speaker 3: Now look now you can't say that. 1426 01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:50,720 Speaker 2: Let me tell you. 1427 01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:54,360 Speaker 5: Let me bring Now that's some good football for y'all right, okay, 1428 01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:57,040 Speaker 5: So like people be conditioned, you know what I mean, 1429 01:02:57,160 --> 01:03:00,360 Speaker 5: Like I don't care how great any player does, nobody 1430 01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:01,080 Speaker 5: would be buried at MJ. 1431 01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:02,680 Speaker 2: That's how people look at it, you know what I mean? 1432 01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:03,320 Speaker 2: This is what it is. 1433 01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:07,880 Speaker 5: Belichick got that same thing. When Belichick didn't have Brady, 1434 01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:09,960 Speaker 5: he was trash. 1435 01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:14,160 Speaker 2: Hm. People people only act like he's only coach for 1436 01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:17,560 Speaker 2: the Patriots. That's not true. He had other coaching jobs. 1437 01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:19,640 Speaker 3: Wait, no, no, no, no, I'm giving pushed back because 1438 01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:22,840 Speaker 3: he was a defensive coordinator in Cleveland. He was with 1439 01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:28,000 Speaker 3: the Giants and some other random assistant he when Bledsoe 1440 01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:30,080 Speaker 3: went down. Let's not act like the Patriots was ass 1441 01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:33,720 Speaker 3: like Belichick was there for what two years a year 1442 01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:36,200 Speaker 3: in three games before Brady was there and took a 1443 01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:38,600 Speaker 3: back up and did that. Like, let's not and always 1444 01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:41,080 Speaker 3: had never had good personnel until Randy Moore showed up. 1445 01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:42,880 Speaker 2: Tell what this want to do for you? 1446 01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:43,160 Speaker 3: Right? 1447 01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:45,680 Speaker 2: Like you give a pushback. I like that. I tell 1448 01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:49,120 Speaker 2: my son that I like I like that. Don't use 1449 01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:51,880 Speaker 2: some homework. Some homework. Right when we leave this interview, right, 1450 01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:53,720 Speaker 2: I'm gonna get your info. We're gonna talk again. 1451 01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:57,120 Speaker 5: So he was the head coach before he got to 1452 01:03:57,200 --> 01:03:59,040 Speaker 5: the Patriots. That's some horwor for you to look at. 1453 01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:02,040 Speaker 5: And if you look at at homework, he wasn't a winner. 1454 01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:03,520 Speaker 2: He was a loser there. Okay. 1455 01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:09,160 Speaker 5: Then you when you get to the Patriots right before 1456 01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:12,120 Speaker 5: you had Tom Brady, and after you had Tom. 1457 01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:15,040 Speaker 2: Brady, right, you're not even five hundred winning. 1458 01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:20,800 Speaker 5: Coach that team, and last name, soon Brady leaves, right, 1459 01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:25,120 Speaker 5: you limp your way to the playoffs, you get smoked 1460 01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:27,600 Speaker 5: by thirty five points to a team you played twice 1461 01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:30,960 Speaker 5: a year, and then after that you like one of 1462 01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:33,760 Speaker 5: the worst teams in football. So with Andy Reid, no 1463 01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:36,600 Speaker 5: matter where you dropping at, no matter where whose quarterback is, 1464 01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:38,439 Speaker 5: he always gonna be a good coach. 1465 01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:40,439 Speaker 2: We always gonna win. Before he got to the Chiefs, 1466 01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:44,160 Speaker 2: they won three games, bro same motherfucking team. Same team. 1467 01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:47,280 Speaker 2: Then the next year they go to the playoffs. And 1468 01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:49,320 Speaker 2: now the Chiefs is what they are. The Eagles. Before 1469 01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:51,880 Speaker 2: he got to the Eagles, they was trash. First year 1470 01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:53,960 Speaker 2: he went five and five five and he went five 1471 01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:59,680 Speaker 2: games five eleven, Then year after that eleven and five playoffs, playoffs, playoffs. 1472 01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:01,680 Speaker 2: I just hate when we compare them dudes, and the 1473 01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:06,680 Speaker 2: last season broke last night. So you know, Bill, dude, 1474 01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:07,160 Speaker 2: you know what I mean? 1475 01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:07,640 Speaker 3: Yeah? 1476 01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:12,240 Speaker 5: Right, Andy Reid's the officive quarterback type of dude, so 1477 01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:16,200 Speaker 5: I can develop players. I think Patrome was phenomenal. I 1478 01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:18,280 Speaker 5: personally don't think that pat would be that without aim. 1479 01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:19,520 Speaker 5: I think he'll be really really good. I don't think 1480 01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:21,840 Speaker 5: he'd be that everywhere. Any and he goes to quarterback 1481 01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:22,480 Speaker 5: is gonna be good. 1482 01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:24,440 Speaker 3: Okay, this is what it is. 1483 01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:27,240 Speaker 2: I can't say the same for Bill. What Bill gets 1484 01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:29,440 Speaker 2: credit for Tom and he a quarterback and you a 1485 01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:30,200 Speaker 2: defensive coach. 1486 01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:34,480 Speaker 3: Okay, after deflay Gate? How many how many games was 1487 01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:41,200 Speaker 3: Brady suspended? They went undefeated? Yeah, and then me and 1488 01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:42,880 Speaker 3: Homie's career who went to the forty nine ers? 1489 01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:48,440 Speaker 2: What's his name? Trash? What about no? 1490 01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:49,120 Speaker 3: Exactly? 1491 01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:50,160 Speaker 2: And Bill? 1492 01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:52,919 Speaker 3: He went undefeated with Bill after deflay Gate when Brady 1493 01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:53,480 Speaker 3: got suspended. 1494 01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:56,160 Speaker 2: Look, I mean, you're talking about a couple of games. 1495 01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:56,680 Speaker 2: I'll give you that. 1496 01:05:56,800 --> 01:05:58,480 Speaker 3: I can't say, and I'm not saying it's comparable to 1497 01:05:58,560 --> 01:06:00,520 Speaker 3: what Andy Reid has done. It as in regards with 1498 01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:03,680 Speaker 3: other quarterbacks, but you can't discredit that Brady was really 1499 01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:08,320 Speaker 3: a nobody at that time. You say that though, yo, 1500 01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:10,480 Speaker 3: I know what he did in Michigan. Don't get me wrong, 1501 01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:12,120 Speaker 3: They gets credited him. 1502 01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:15,240 Speaker 5: Were talking about the pros everywhere. Time where he goes, 1503 01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:17,200 Speaker 5: he wins. The dude left, the dude leaves. 1504 01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:19,280 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I'm saying when Bledson went down, 1505 01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:23,320 Speaker 3: Bill was dealing with nobody as a quarterback, had no 1506 01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:25,600 Speaker 3: experience in the NFL and no real personnel. 1507 01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:27,080 Speaker 2: But that's not true. 1508 01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:29,560 Speaker 3: Bill and Brady have made Edelman a Hall of Famer. 1509 01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:33,520 Speaker 3: Like every little fucking wide receiver. They have made that 1510 01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:34,320 Speaker 3: way hot. 1511 01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:35,680 Speaker 2: But that's my question of people like that. 1512 01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:38,480 Speaker 5: They say that, how does Bill get credit for them 1513 01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:40,960 Speaker 5: type of receivers. He's like d he's on DEFENSI side, 1514 01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:41,400 Speaker 5: don't have no. 1515 01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:42,000 Speaker 2: Do the offense. 1516 01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:44,440 Speaker 3: That come on, you think Bill Belisha has nothing to 1517 01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:47,720 Speaker 3: do with the offense, nothing in You think he don't 1518 01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:49,600 Speaker 3: show up on Tuesdays and Wednesdays. He'd just be at 1519 01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:50,880 Speaker 3: home with his twenty four year oirlfriend. 1520 01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:54,160 Speaker 5: And like he's not putting no plays in, he's not installing, 1521 01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:56,720 Speaker 5: he's not like he's not coaching the offense. But Andy 1522 01:06:56,760 --> 01:06:58,160 Speaker 5: ree ain't going over coaching the defense. 1523 01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:01,280 Speaker 3: He's the coach the GM. I'm not I don't think 1524 01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:03,200 Speaker 3: he's the best drafter, but look what he's done. He's 1525 01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:05,320 Speaker 3: taking a bunch of kids from Rutgers and made them 1526 01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:08,560 Speaker 3: Hall of Fame. DB's like, that's a coach. He put 1527 01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:11,200 Speaker 3: the best offensive coordinators that ended up being the Notre 1528 01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:14,280 Speaker 3: Dame head coach. Like he has made stars out of coaches. 1529 01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:18,800 Speaker 3: Mike Rabel, like he has made stars coordinators. 1530 01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:20,960 Speaker 2: They be trashed for offense. 1531 01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:22,680 Speaker 3: Then why are their dynasty? 1532 01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:27,240 Speaker 5: Let me tell you they coaching Tom Brady. Dog, that's 1533 01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:30,040 Speaker 5: the truth. The coordinators, he gets right. They comeing with 1534 01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:31,840 Speaker 5: the Patriots, they winning all these games and all this 1535 01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:34,440 Speaker 5: shit stone they leave the Patriots and they leave Tom 1536 01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:35,320 Speaker 5: Brady the quarterback. 1537 01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:37,640 Speaker 2: They go to all these different places and be trash, 1538 01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:39,520 Speaker 2: you know they do. Then they come back to Tom 1539 01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:41,800 Speaker 2: and he saved them. Tom left the Patriot and won 1540 01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:42,840 Speaker 2: a championship with the Bucks. 1541 01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:50,440 Speaker 3: Ye same roster that was like, that was like the Aauver. 1542 01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:53,320 Speaker 3: That Bucks team was insane. What are we talking about? 1543 01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:56,560 Speaker 3: I was on running game to three receivers. Let's act 1544 01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:58,760 Speaker 3: like that Bucks team. Gronk came back. What are we 1545 01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:02,080 Speaker 3: talking about? He's an All Star team but see you 1546 01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:02,480 Speaker 3: say that. 1547 01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:05,280 Speaker 2: You say that, but it's like this, the elite players 1548 01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:07,640 Speaker 2: versus eleaite players. So none is is really easy, you 1549 01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:08,120 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. 1550 01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:09,439 Speaker 3: The NFL, of course it's really easy. 1551 01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:12,280 Speaker 5: So what I'm saying is the common factor we have 1552 01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:15,160 Speaker 5: here is that every time number twelve goes somewhere, they're going. 1553 01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:17,400 Speaker 2: To be winning. And then and then when he leaves, 1554 01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:20,519 Speaker 2: the Patriots ain't never looked that bad fact. 1555 01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:23,040 Speaker 3: And I know, I think Tom Brady is the greatest 1556 01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:25,120 Speaker 3: quarterback of all time. I don't even think it's fucking close. 1557 01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:27,920 Speaker 3: I'm just saying we cannot discredit Bill Belichick and everything 1558 01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:30,040 Speaker 3: he did with the rosters that he had. The Patriots 1559 01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:33,519 Speaker 3: were never a superstar team ever. I mean even the 1560 01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:35,720 Speaker 3: running backs. If you go through the Patriots running backs 1561 01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:38,639 Speaker 3: for the last twenty years, those guys would have never 1562 01:08:39,280 --> 01:08:42,479 Speaker 3: been damn near Super Bowl MVPs without the system that 1563 01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:43,519 Speaker 3: was running in the Patriots. 1564 01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:45,800 Speaker 2: This is why I'll get what you keep doing, you 1565 01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:46,679 Speaker 2: keep giving. 1566 01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:49,240 Speaker 5: So Bill's thing is defense, but he's one of the 1567 01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:52,559 Speaker 5: they say he's one of the most greatest masterminds on defense. 1568 01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:54,800 Speaker 2: Right, So if that's what he is, why do you 1569 01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:56,439 Speaker 2: keep giving him credit for offense. 1570 01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:59,320 Speaker 3: He's the head coach, so if they fail, it's he 1571 01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:01,000 Speaker 3: gets the credit. But if they win, he doesn't. 1572 01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:04,800 Speaker 2: But I'm saying, how do you get the credit? Nobody? 1573 01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:07,559 Speaker 3: I mean, it's the head coach. You think you think 1574 01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:09,840 Speaker 3: he's legitimately not looking through any of that, like he's 1575 01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:11,040 Speaker 3: just been like, yo, whatever y'all want to do. 1576 01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:13,639 Speaker 5: No, I mean, obviously hit a coach, But what I'm 1577 01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:15,000 Speaker 5: saying is like, he ain't in that MOE for like, yo, 1578 01:09:15,400 --> 01:09:17,680 Speaker 5: let's go over to his office of game plan to try. 1579 01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:18,800 Speaker 2: That's not what he does. 1580 01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:22,519 Speaker 3: Something he do most coaches threw him off. I just 1581 01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:25,960 Speaker 3: cannot see him not he he ain't doing. 1582 01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:28,400 Speaker 2: These crazy iodic defensive shit. He that's not what they do. 1583 01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:31,439 Speaker 5: Get an office, come to the defense coach, you get 1584 01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:33,439 Speaker 5: the head coach. I see everything, but I ain't really 1585 01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:37,479 Speaker 5: so real quick before you leave, because you keep saying 1586 01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:39,200 Speaker 5: that personal and the team was not that good. 1587 01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:42,800 Speaker 2: Look at the fucking defense that the Pitchers had with 1588 01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:45,880 Speaker 2: Tom Brady and Andrew Blutson, because I don't think you know. 1589 01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:50,599 Speaker 3: Because they no Teddy Bruski. Teddy Brusky was crazy. Rabel 1590 01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:52,720 Speaker 3: was there at that time. I mean obviously you get 1591 01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:54,639 Speaker 3: to the high towers and all that kind of players. 1592 01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:56,160 Speaker 2: They were good to get the real good players. 1593 01:09:57,360 --> 01:10:00,560 Speaker 3: Rodney Harrison was struggling in Sandy. Ain't going until he 1594 01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:02,320 Speaker 3: came to the Patriots. He was having he was having 1595 01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:03,960 Speaker 3: a hard time going. 1596 01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:05,400 Speaker 2: Keep going, that's crazy to keep going. 1597 01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:10,639 Speaker 3: Who was who was the free safety next to Ronnie Harrison? 1598 01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:11,200 Speaker 3: He was nice? 1599 01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:13,360 Speaker 2: My lord that went to the Bills. 1600 01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:15,880 Speaker 3: He was nice, he was he was Yeah, but again 1601 01:10:16,040 --> 01:10:19,639 Speaker 3: he's always been nicey, No, you sabot lawyer malloy. Yeah 1602 01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:23,720 Speaker 3: he was a linebacker, yeah, Lawyer malloy. Willie McGinnis was 1603 01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:30,400 Speaker 3: struggling with the Patriots until until Bill got there. They 1604 01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:32,920 Speaker 3: was in a bad organization. I'm sorry. You think I'm 1605 01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:34,439 Speaker 3: all right? No, no, no, let's let's get into it. 1606 01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:36,920 Speaker 3: You think Pete Carroll was bringing Willie McGinnis to the 1607 01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:37,519 Speaker 3: Promised Land. 1608 01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:41,720 Speaker 2: I think Willie was a really good player. 1609 01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:43,320 Speaker 3: No, WILLI is a Hall of Famer, he's but he 1610 01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:49,040 Speaker 3: had a shy system, really, isn't. You had Ryan Seymour, 1611 01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:55,720 Speaker 3: You had ty law Samuel first of all, all right, 1612 01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:59,680 Speaker 3: Sante Samuel, who was a Sante Samuel before the Patriots 1613 01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:01,760 Speaker 3: and got that contract with y'all. 1614 01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:03,920 Speaker 2: Bro, he was a beast. 1615 01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:06,000 Speaker 5: He's a rookie and beat one of the dudes out. 1616 01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:08,599 Speaker 5: He's been good his whole life, his whole life and prob. 1617 01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:10,760 Speaker 3: But that he wasn't some lottery pick that the Patriots got. 1618 01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:12,680 Speaker 3: There was already a damn near dynasty when they got 1619 01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:19,800 Speaker 3: at Samuel. The system was perfect for him. You acting 1620 01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:22,599 Speaker 3: like sam was a number one pick. What I'm saying 1621 01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:24,320 Speaker 3: he was a baller. I don't care what he's he was. 1622 01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:25,840 Speaker 3: He should be in the Hall of Fame. I'm saying 1623 01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:27,960 Speaker 3: the system with the Patriots with Bill and what he 1624 01:11:28,040 --> 01:11:30,519 Speaker 3: did gave him even the value to what got to. 1625 01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:34,400 Speaker 2: The balled out with the patris and ball with the Eagles. 1626 01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:37,479 Speaker 3: Bill Belichick made Tyrone Poole a potential Hall of Famer. 1627 01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:41,639 Speaker 3: What are you talking about, TYROLO? I love Tyrol Pool, 1628 01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:44,160 Speaker 3: but yo, yo, you see this crect. 1629 01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:47,600 Speaker 5: Everybody's so fool You'll be surprised. A lot of the 1630 01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:50,799 Speaker 5: Patriots players saying about him, like all that bullshit. 1631 01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:52,600 Speaker 2: Tom bradys Will made that thing go. Bro, that's a 1632 01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:53,280 Speaker 2: simple I. 1633 01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:55,400 Speaker 3: Mean, yeah, yeah, I'm arguing because it's fun right now. 1634 01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:57,680 Speaker 3: Of course, know you and Locker rooms. You know ship 1635 01:11:57,760 --> 01:11:59,840 Speaker 3: way more than I Like you said last name real quick. 1636 01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:02,680 Speaker 5: You know like all thirteen teams, right, you telling me 1637 01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:05,720 Speaker 5: if Tom Brady went to the bad teams, so you 1638 01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:08,000 Speaker 5: got the average teams and the bad teams, do you 1639 01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:09,280 Speaker 5: think that he makes them teams better? 1640 01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:13,120 Speaker 3: I think if he went to the forty nine ers 1641 01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:14,840 Speaker 3: with one hundred and ninety eighth pick instead of the 1642 01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:16,960 Speaker 3: hundred and nine ninth pick, we're looking at something different. 1643 01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:20,320 Speaker 3: I think it was a perfect storm, a shit that 1644 01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:22,880 Speaker 3: happens in the universe with two people coming together. Tom 1645 01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:24,600 Speaker 3: was gonna be Tom no matter way he lands. No 1646 01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:28,160 Speaker 3: opportunity is something that happens. Like let's say Bledsoe. Bledsoe, 1647 01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:30,519 Speaker 3: they had just read up his contract. He was going 1648 01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:32,840 Speaker 3: to be the franchise player. If he doesn't go down, 1649 01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:36,400 Speaker 3: Bledsoe still stays right there. We're not acting like they're 1650 01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:38,960 Speaker 3: putting two hundred million into Drew Bledsoe after he did 1651 01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:41,240 Speaker 3: take them to the Super Bowl lost against Brett Favre. 1652 01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:43,800 Speaker 3: At that point, they're gonna let Tom Brady beat him out. 1653 01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:47,400 Speaker 3: In practice, you think Robert Kraft is allowing that. Yo, 1654 01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:50,640 Speaker 3: he allowed Hernandez to mark people and he still was 1655 01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:51,760 Speaker 3: like yo, I'll show up the court. 1656 01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:54,639 Speaker 2: They gave Tom Brady hunter mean deal or they gave 1657 01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:57,320 Speaker 2: Buss poyman out deal and Tom beat him out. He's better. 1658 01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:00,559 Speaker 2: He's better, bro, He's That's what happened. 1659 01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:05,720 Speaker 3: Tom beat out. Who Bloods went down? Let's went down? 1660 01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:09,960 Speaker 3: Came back for the Pittsburgh AFC Championship for like one quarter, 1661 01:13:10,280 --> 01:13:13,040 Speaker 3: bloodso balled out, But it was clear that Tom Brady 1662 01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:16,160 Speaker 3: was the one. If Bledsoe doesn't go down, that doesn't happen. 1663 01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:19,120 Speaker 2: But I mean, that's football. We can't I don't know 1664 01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:19,679 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. 1665 01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:21,800 Speaker 3: They're not allowing as good as Brady could be at 1666 01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:24,960 Speaker 3: practice that franchise. In politics, what did you say? What 1667 01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:26,800 Speaker 3: did you say earlier? I'm gonna do a callback. You said, 1668 01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:29,720 Speaker 3: sometimes the best player doesn't play. It's politics. You give 1669 01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:32,679 Speaker 3: Bloodsoe this much money, He has the smile, he's tall, 1670 01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:35,200 Speaker 3: he's marketable. You think they're investing all that money to 1671 01:13:35,320 --> 01:13:37,760 Speaker 3: let some kid from Michigan beat him out. No, that's 1672 01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:40,400 Speaker 3: not happening. He went down, and he took the moment 1673 01:13:40,439 --> 01:13:42,280 Speaker 3: and became the greatest quarterback of all time. If he 1674 01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:43,920 Speaker 3: goes to the forty nine ers, I don't know if 1675 01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:45,240 Speaker 3: that same opportunity is happening. 1676 01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:48,240 Speaker 5: Oh so so you're saying, oh oh you said, okay, 1677 01:13:48,680 --> 01:13:50,960 Speaker 5: get curted for that. So you say, like, Bill made 1678 01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:52,639 Speaker 5: it happen for him, give him chance to play. 1679 01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:55,320 Speaker 3: It was a perfect storm and energy of both of 1680 01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:58,960 Speaker 3: those people and that opportunity and yeah, an amazing coach 1681 01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:02,840 Speaker 3: and the potential greatest quarterback of all time and that 1682 01:14:03,080 --> 01:14:05,640 Speaker 3: moment happening. That's some real universe, Like you have to 1683 01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:07,320 Speaker 3: go in the moon and stars to figure out how 1684 01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:08,639 Speaker 3: that whole shit happened. I'm dead ass. 1685 01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:12,080 Speaker 5: But the thing with Tom is like the time that 1686 01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:14,280 Speaker 5: you know, everywhere he's been a he's a really really 1687 01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:15,719 Speaker 5: good He's been a winner. 1688 01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:17,639 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, Michigan, he's a winner. 1689 01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:20,080 Speaker 2: Everything I know about Tom is that he's been a winner. 1690 01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:21,600 Speaker 2: He's been really really good as a quarterback. That's what 1691 01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:21,920 Speaker 2: y'all know. 1692 01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:26,519 Speaker 5: Yeah, what I'm telling you is that we can't say 1693 01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:28,120 Speaker 5: the same for Belichick. That's all I'm saying. 1694 01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:28,280 Speaker 2: Bro. 1695 01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:31,479 Speaker 3: No, he's seventy five or the twenty four yard girlfriend, 1696 01:14:31,479 --> 01:14:32,120 Speaker 3: that's a winner to me. 1697 01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:35,080 Speaker 2: So look, look, look, he gott to do his homework. 1698 01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:37,160 Speaker 2: I got a rod. It's a homework. 1699 01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:39,680 Speaker 3: Man, thank you bro. 1700 01:14:40,240 --> 01:14:41,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I appreciate y'all. Yeah. 1701 01:14:41,479 --> 01:14:46,360 Speaker 3: Love no