WEBVTT - Episode 267: Get the Jet! (Feat. Tiwa Savage) 0:00:02.200 --> 0:00:05.160 What's up this lip service? I mean, I'm reading McGuire. 0:00:05.480 --> 0:00:10.520 I'm worry. Ow I'll tell you what. Where are you 0:00:10.600 --> 0:00:14.680 right now in the world. I'm in Lagos, Nigeria. Okay, 0:00:14.760 --> 0:00:21.279 we're jealous. Yeah, we're stock. I'm stuck with my son. 0:00:21.400 --> 0:00:25.200 I'm trying to find a way to get out. But 0:00:25.400 --> 0:00:27.360 it is nice to be home. Your son is were 0:00:27.440 --> 0:00:32.280 five now? Yeah? Yeah, he just turned five two weeks ago. Um. Yeah, 0:00:32.320 --> 0:00:37.159 it's it's actually a blessing in disguise because you know, 0:00:37.240 --> 0:00:39.920 being an artist, I'm always on the road and I 0:00:40.000 --> 0:00:43.319 usually sometimes missed some special moments. So being with him 0:00:43.360 --> 0:00:48.280 for the past four months m has just been overwhelmingly incredible. 0:00:49.159 --> 0:00:51.000 We had the blessing to see you perform and made 0:00:51.000 --> 0:00:56.480 in America. Yeah, it was all good, like four years 0:00:56.560 --> 0:00:59.000 or something like that? Was like three years, right, three 0:00:59.080 --> 0:01:02.760 years ago? Oh well I didn't. Time is flying. I 0:01:02.800 --> 0:01:05.199 feel like it was three years. I'm not a story. 0:01:05.240 --> 0:01:08.039 But remember when you went on stage, everybody ran over 0:01:08.040 --> 0:01:11.880 there and so we were learning too. We was like, 0:01:11.880 --> 0:01:18.480 where are we going now? But truly amazing and I 0:01:18.520 --> 0:01:20.959 love your journey, just how you went from being in 0:01:21.000 --> 0:01:23.600 the background to being in the forefront. I feel like 0:01:23.640 --> 0:01:26.080 things like that making so much more grounded too when 0:01:26.120 --> 0:01:28.399 you finally do make it like having't started off how 0:01:28.440 --> 0:01:31.520 you did, right, I mean, um, yeah, there's this quote 0:01:31.520 --> 0:01:35.360 that I read recently and it's so true. It's like, um, 0:01:35.520 --> 0:01:42.200 slow success build character, and fast success built ego. For me, definitely, 0:01:42.240 --> 0:01:46.560 this wasn't an overnight thing and it's definitely kept me 0:01:46.720 --> 0:01:49.480 very very humble because I've seen, like you said, being 0:01:49.520 --> 0:01:52.200 in the being in the background. Um, I've been able 0:01:52.240 --> 0:01:54.880 to study people in line life, and I've seen how 0:01:55.600 --> 0:01:58.680 fickle the industry is, how you could be so big 0:01:58.800 --> 0:02:00.600 right now and then to more. You can walk in 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:03.280 the mall and nobody's trying to take a picture, and 0:02:03.320 --> 0:02:06.760 so me seeing that m has just really just in 0:02:06.840 --> 0:02:10.119 my head. I don't take where I am for granted. 0:02:10.280 --> 0:02:13.000 Like I literally have to ground myself all the time 0:02:13.000 --> 0:02:14.760 because I know it can go like that. You were 0:02:15.440 --> 0:02:21.560 starts like George Michael j blives like crazy, How say, yeah, 0:02:21.680 --> 0:02:24.679 be honestly, how are they like? How are their egos? 0:02:24.760 --> 0:02:27.560 When you are behind the scenes with some of these people, 0:02:28.000 --> 0:02:30.520 does that get you like you know, I know sometimes 0:02:30.520 --> 0:02:32.640 we've had to work with people that might have big 0:02:32.639 --> 0:02:35.000 egos and we feel a little jaded and stuff like that. 0:02:35.080 --> 0:02:37.120 So how has that been for you? Just seeing how 0:02:37.160 --> 0:02:40.160 they operate honestly, every single one, And I don't know, 0:02:40.200 --> 0:02:42.519 maybe I've just been really blessed. Every single person that 0:02:42.560 --> 0:02:45.600 I've worked with has been really really just humble. But 0:02:45.800 --> 0:02:50.079 for me, um, seeing the kind of pressure they were 0:02:50.160 --> 0:02:52.920 under or they are under. And then sometimes, like you know, 0:02:53.680 --> 0:02:55.920 we've seen fans who have just seen them for the 0:02:55.960 --> 0:02:58.600 first time and they don't care whether they're tired, they 0:02:58.639 --> 0:03:01.280 haven't slept, They just want that moment and they just 0:03:01.320 --> 0:03:03.959 want to feel the energy. And and sometimes I'll just 0:03:04.000 --> 0:03:05.400 be looking at them and I'll be like, because I 0:03:05.440 --> 0:03:07.840 was on told Mary, and I'm like, I'll see how 0:03:07.919 --> 0:03:10.960 tired she is and and she just still has to 0:03:11.000 --> 0:03:13.280 put a smile on her face and just tea and 0:03:13.320 --> 0:03:17.119 I used to just wander like, Yo, people have no idea, 0:03:17.320 --> 0:03:20.920 like these are human beings, um that still go through 0:03:21.000 --> 0:03:24.680 Woke everybody else goes through. And you know, we as fans, 0:03:24.760 --> 0:03:26.519 we don't care at that moment. We just want to 0:03:26.600 --> 0:03:29.880 picture and that's it. Yeah, that is crazy, because I've 0:03:30.000 --> 0:03:32.600 I've seen a lot of people even recently complaining about 0:03:32.680 --> 0:03:35.560 that because um, obviously you want people to give you 0:03:35.560 --> 0:03:38.520 your space right now, or like you got a mask on, 0:03:38.640 --> 0:03:41.720 you want to kind of distance, and I think either. 0:03:42.200 --> 0:03:44.360 I think it was Peter Thomas from the Real Housewives 0:03:44.400 --> 0:03:47.960 of Atlanta. Well he formally he had ended up getting 0:03:47.960 --> 0:03:50.240 COVID and he said it was from like taking pictures 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:53.080 with fans and stuff like that, and they were asking 0:03:53.160 --> 0:03:55.720 him like take the mask off, like I want you 0:03:55.800 --> 0:03:57.960 to be in a picture without the mask on. So 0:03:58.080 --> 0:04:00.480 I think this is a tough time even right now 0:04:00.600 --> 0:04:02.720 because it's like what are you supposed to do, but 0:04:02.760 --> 0:04:05.040 that your fans might go off on you, like, oh, 0:04:05.120 --> 0:04:08.520 she's rude just seeing her. You know. Yeah, it's hard, 0:04:08.640 --> 0:04:11.160 especially for me and my son, Like sometimes like I 0:04:11.200 --> 0:04:14.120 have to like go out with him, Um, people just 0:04:14.320 --> 0:04:16.520 want to drab him, and like they just want to 0:04:16.560 --> 0:04:21.680 hug him. You know. I'm just like, yo, and he's 0:04:21.680 --> 0:04:24.320 still a kid. He's so excited. He's just like you know, 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:26.560 walking up to someone or trying to hug someone, and 0:04:26.600 --> 0:04:29.440 I'm just like holding him back. Like I tried to 0:04:29.480 --> 0:04:31.520 find out balance where I tried to explain to them 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:33.680 like yo, this is my child, Like I'm the one 0:04:33.760 --> 0:04:36.360 that's in this. You know, he's he's he didn't ask 0:04:36.400 --> 0:04:38.320 for this, and I have to find a balance, you know, 0:04:38.360 --> 0:04:40.920 just to I have to protect him. It is hard, 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:43.919 Like people don't understand that. So probably being famous is 0:04:43.920 --> 0:04:45.960 also having your personal life out there. And we've seen 0:04:46.000 --> 0:04:48.040 that happen of course with like a Mary J. Blige, 0:04:48.040 --> 0:04:49.640 and it's happened with you too. So how do you 0:04:49.720 --> 0:04:53.880 handle things like that with your relationship being on Front 0:04:53.920 --> 0:05:00.720 Street like that? Not because if you because of him? 0:05:00.760 --> 0:05:05.160 Oh that was God, you guys got me. I was 0:05:05.240 --> 0:05:10.520 talking about this for years. Who um? That was? That 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:13.560 was tough. That was That was really tough for me 0:05:13.640 --> 0:05:17.159 because it was something I was trying to manage and 0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:20.760 I didn't want out there. And when it got out there, 0:05:21.320 --> 0:05:23.760 I felt like I had to defend myself and I 0:05:23.800 --> 0:05:25.640 had to speak up for myself because a lot of 0:05:25.640 --> 0:05:28.080 people were also involved, like a lot of names were 0:05:28.120 --> 0:05:31.640 involved in it hurt because some of my family members 0:05:31.760 --> 0:05:34.919 were obviously involved. And so when I spoke up and 0:05:34.960 --> 0:05:38.440 then I got backlash for speaking up, at that point, 0:05:38.800 --> 0:05:41.800 I was just like, you know what, fuck this, Like, 0:05:41.880 --> 0:05:43.520 I'm sorry if my math friend, I was just like, 0:05:43.600 --> 0:05:46.279 I'm just gonna be me because I was trying to 0:05:46.360 --> 0:05:49.279 be that good girl, take the right boxes, went to school, 0:05:49.400 --> 0:05:53.359 got my degree, um, got married, had a child, like 0:05:53.600 --> 0:05:57.039 literally everything that my society says a woman should do. 0:05:57.200 --> 0:06:01.159 I did all of that, and then when everything went left, 0:06:01.279 --> 0:06:06.200 I was still blamed. Something in my head was just like, 0:06:06.240 --> 0:06:08.280 you know, I'm living for me now, Like I went 0:06:08.400 --> 0:06:10.800 and got a tattoo of my sleep I had, like 0:06:10.839 --> 0:06:15.000 the earliest I cut my hair. I was just I 0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:17.159 was just angry. I was just like, no, I'm gonna 0:06:17.200 --> 0:06:19.400 do me because you guys are gonna judge me regardless. 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:21.479 So I'm um. And I think that's where I got 0:06:21.480 --> 0:06:27.400 the term African bad girl, because I I own it. Yeah, 0:06:27.720 --> 0:06:31.239 I don't give a f I was doing me like yeah, 0:06:31.440 --> 0:06:34.360 no matter what, we always must remember that we come first, 0:06:34.560 --> 0:06:37.239 and we had to do what makes us happy before 0:06:37.440 --> 0:06:39.680 we try to pour into others or before we try 0:06:39.720 --> 0:06:42.120 to be what we think is the right way that 0:06:42.160 --> 0:06:44.080 we should be. You know, you gotta be yourself because 0:06:44.080 --> 0:06:45.800 you'll never be true. We gonna give you n yourself. 0:06:46.360 --> 0:06:48.680 I think it's hard as a woman, like being a 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:51.560 woman in the industry. I think I think it's true, 0:06:51.800 --> 0:06:53.880 like but it was a journey for me to get 0:06:53.920 --> 0:06:57.520 to what you're saying. And I'm still getting get into 0:06:57.560 --> 0:07:01.560 that um destination on that point. But it's hard because 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:04.640 you don't want to be seen as like the diva 0:07:04.800 --> 0:07:07.799 when you demand certain things. You want to be liked 0:07:07.839 --> 0:07:10.200 as a woman. You want other women to like you. 0:07:10.720 --> 0:07:15.160 Let's be real. That's another huge thing um for women. 0:07:15.920 --> 0:07:18.640 It's like sometimes you get attacked by attacked by women 0:07:18.640 --> 0:07:20.880 and you're like, yo, you should you should be on 0:07:20.960 --> 0:07:24.040 my side. You should understand why I'm going through so um. 0:07:24.080 --> 0:07:27.840 But now, like he said, I think having a child 0:07:27.960 --> 0:07:31.200 has just made me really like I'm like a lioness, 0:07:31.360 --> 0:07:33.520 Like I don't care as long as I'm good and 0:07:33.560 --> 0:07:36.680 my child is good. At this point, I really don't 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:39.680 care whether you like me or not. I feel like 0:07:39.720 --> 0:07:42.360 your life is like a movie already, Like this is 0:07:42.360 --> 0:07:47.280 that it doesn't even coming from Nigeria and going through 0:07:47.320 --> 0:07:49.680 what you went through getting band and everything early on 0:07:49.840 --> 0:07:51.920 and having to deal with that, working with all these 0:07:52.320 --> 0:07:55.240 mega stars and then writing your music for them, I 0:07:55.240 --> 0:07:57.920 think that's already like an amazing story. Going through the 0:07:57.960 --> 0:08:00.680 relationship that you went through raising your son, and and 0:08:00.800 --> 0:08:04.600 you lived in so many different places, like the biggest start, 0:08:04.840 --> 0:08:08.200 you know, to the cover of Billboard magazine, Like journey 0:08:08.240 --> 0:08:11.480 to Me is so impressive, it's it's still so hard, 0:08:11.640 --> 0:08:13.440 Like it's still so hard because I feel like I 0:08:13.480 --> 0:08:16.200 still have to like I still like I still have 0:08:16.240 --> 0:08:19.400 to prove myself all the time, Like I still have 0:08:19.520 --> 0:08:21.720 to work twice as hard. I still have to Like 0:08:22.520 --> 0:08:25.680 you know, um, I'm gonna be really honest with you guys, 0:08:25.760 --> 0:08:30.400 Like I'm forty, and that's really hard for a lot 0:08:30.440 --> 0:08:33.559 of people to to believe that I got signed at 0:08:33.600 --> 0:08:38.240 that age. It's just like yo, like how is that possible? 0:08:39.360 --> 0:08:42.280 But to me, that's just God telling me, Like my 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:45.240 journey is bigger than music. It's bigger than just being 0:08:45.280 --> 0:08:48.880 an African woman. My journey is like to show other women, 0:08:49.600 --> 0:08:52.679 like your life is not over because you're married, because 0:08:52.720 --> 0:08:55.000 you have kids, because you're a single mom, because you're 0:08:55.040 --> 0:08:57.720 not in your twenties or in your like in your teens, 0:08:58.120 --> 0:09:01.640 like you could start your dream when God says that's 0:09:01.640 --> 0:09:04.920 when you're supposed to start, right And for me, like 0:09:05.240 --> 0:09:08.840 my story has to be that to women, why do 0:09:09.000 --> 0:09:11.960 you have to stop modeling at twenty something if you 0:09:12.000 --> 0:09:17.640 still look good. It looks amazing. She is incredible, and 0:09:17.679 --> 0:09:20.679 the and the clothes she's wearing. Only people in my 0:09:20.760 --> 0:09:25.800 tax bracket can afford it anyway, right, Like, and then 0:09:25.880 --> 0:09:29.160 a footballer, you're telling the footballer to retire at whatever 0:09:29.240 --> 0:09:31.720 age if you're still fifty five and you could still 0:09:31.800 --> 0:09:35.760 kick that ball from this post another one. Yeah. I 0:09:35.760 --> 0:09:38.760 feel like we we do, we do. We are so 0:09:39.040 --> 0:09:42.280 unfair to ourselves. And I feel like God is literally 0:09:42.400 --> 0:09:47.000 using me um just to encourage and to inspire young women, like, 0:09:47.120 --> 0:09:49.240 don't beat yourself up if you're twenty six and you 0:09:49.240 --> 0:09:52.640 feel like you haven't really started your career, like baby girl, like, 0:09:53.240 --> 0:09:56.200 trust me, you have your whole life to do this. 0:09:56.360 --> 0:09:58.120 And to me, I don't really know what I wanted 0:09:58.160 --> 0:09:59.840 to be when I was in my twenties. I was 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:02.240 really comfortable with my skin till I was in my face. 0:10:03.080 --> 0:10:05.600 So it's really important for me to teach that to 0:10:05.640 --> 0:10:08.520 young women. And let's be clear, you're giving these twenty 0:10:08.600 --> 0:10:12.640 year olds a run for their money, because step it up. Listen, 0:10:12.679 --> 0:10:14.480 you said you at forty. I'm saying here, like, why 0:10:14.600 --> 0:10:17.280 she sitting here lying to us like this? Because you 0:10:17.440 --> 0:10:19.480 I would have never like you know I know you 0:10:19.600 --> 0:10:21.640 worked with people for a while, you but you know, 0:10:22.040 --> 0:10:24.560 and stuff like that. But I would have never guessed forty, 0:10:24.720 --> 0:10:28.120 never in a million. But that's not and again that's 0:10:28.120 --> 0:10:30.480 not a bad thing like you're saying, because if it 0:10:30.640 --> 0:10:34.199 was a man starting at forty and music, nobody even 0:10:34.280 --> 0:10:37.440 questions it. Like some of the biggest artists are in 0:10:37.480 --> 0:10:41.600 the damn fifties and nobody is saying anything about that. 0:10:41.720 --> 0:10:44.440 It's just like, Okay, jay Z my favorite rapper, you 0:10:44.440 --> 0:10:46.560 know what I mean. But they're not really sitting down 0:10:46.559 --> 0:10:48.600 and looking at it like that. They judge women so 0:10:48.720 --> 0:10:52.240 much more by by little thing. Yeah, you have to 0:10:52.320 --> 0:10:55.120 look a certain way. You have to like know, like 0:10:55.240 --> 0:10:58.959 I like listen, like I'm I want, I want to 0:10:59.000 --> 0:11:01.920 break all of those show was like beyond my music. 0:11:02.040 --> 0:11:04.120 I want. I want my music to obviously be the 0:11:04.160 --> 0:11:08.320 starting point, but my my whole career is bigger than music. 0:11:08.520 --> 0:11:12.280 It's it's definitely a journey. Now, you name the new 0:11:12.320 --> 0:11:16.280 album after your mom, Celia, and so what's your relationship 0:11:16.280 --> 0:11:17.960 with your mom? And then I want to also ask 0:11:18.000 --> 0:11:20.280 you with your parents, what was their relationship like with 0:11:20.320 --> 0:11:23.400 each other and how did that influence you? Oh my god, 0:11:23.440 --> 0:11:25.160 when they see this, they're gonna kill me. I can 0:11:25.160 --> 0:11:28.600 still get time out, you know, my mom, she don't 0:11:31.480 --> 0:11:35.280 um my mom. I named it after my mom because 0:11:35.559 --> 0:11:37.880 when I wanted to go into music in my culture, 0:11:37.880 --> 0:11:40.520 it was just like, are you crazy like music? Who's 0:11:40.520 --> 0:11:42.440 gonna marry her? Like she has to either be a 0:11:42.440 --> 0:11:45.160 doctor or housewife or you know. Um, And my mom 0:11:45.280 --> 0:11:48.240 was like no, Like I'm going to support her. I'm 0:11:48.240 --> 0:11:51.640 gonna push her. She moved me to UM the UK. 0:11:51.840 --> 0:11:53.679 Then she got me to go to Berkeley College of 0:11:53.760 --> 0:11:56.400 Music to study music. So and she got a lot 0:11:56.480 --> 0:11:59.280 of backlash from family members who said she was crazy 0:11:59.360 --> 0:12:02.280 for supporting to be a musician. So for me, like, 0:12:02.720 --> 0:12:05.000 I want to pay homage to her because without her, 0:12:05.040 --> 0:12:08.760 obviously I wouldn't be right. She supported me against you know, 0:12:08.880 --> 0:12:12.400 everyone's who wish And because I see her, I see 0:12:12.400 --> 0:12:16.440 her resilience, I see how humble but hard working she is, 0:12:16.720 --> 0:12:20.679 and she just represents the modern day woman of color 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:23.840 to me, like a woman who's not afraid to be 0:12:23.880 --> 0:12:26.960 submissive to her husband, but who still works her nine 0:12:27.000 --> 0:12:29.320 to five to put food on the table for her kids, 0:12:29.800 --> 0:12:34.720 and who is very spiritual but also very modern, Like 0:12:34.840 --> 0:12:36.679 she came with me when I got my piercings in 0:12:36.760 --> 0:12:39.920 my tattoos. But she's up every morning at six am 0:12:39.960 --> 0:12:44.560 praying so for me, she just embodies everything. Um, and 0:12:44.760 --> 0:12:48.280 it's just I also wanted to celebrate women of color 0:12:48.400 --> 0:12:51.280 because I feel like, first of all, apart from being 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:53.640 a woman, being a woman of color, we we go 0:12:53.800 --> 0:12:58.400 through so many challenges and I wanted this album to 0:12:58.559 --> 0:13:01.560 just to just celebrate, to celebrate us. I want us 0:13:01.559 --> 0:13:03.679 to get all flowers. Well, we're still alive. How did 0:13:03.679 --> 0:13:06.280 your dad tell about that? Yeah, your dad kind of 0:13:07.000 --> 0:13:09.640 a game at the beginning. He was just like, so 0:13:09.640 --> 0:13:11.840 so because my dad was like no, no, no, no no. 0:13:12.280 --> 0:13:15.600 I had to study business and accounts as my first degree, 0:13:16.640 --> 0:13:18.679 and then I had to work as a trainee accountant. 0:13:18.960 --> 0:13:20.360 And then at one point I was just like, you 0:13:20.360 --> 0:13:23.679 know what, Dad, this is your certificate. I'm going to 0:13:23.720 --> 0:13:26.640 do what I want to do right. But now my dad, 0:13:27.559 --> 0:13:30.280 oh my goodness, everywhere we go he'll be like, that's 0:13:30.320 --> 0:13:33.280 to your savages. You were like, well, you don't get 0:13:33.320 --> 0:13:37.360 an album named after you because my back he's the 0:13:37.440 --> 0:13:42.319 same energy what you wanted me to be. Let me 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:47.240 be super because in your culture, I don't know if 0:13:47.240 --> 0:13:49.000 I'm a hundred percent right, but I have a couple 0:13:49.000 --> 0:13:51.240 of friends that are Nigerian. They told me, like they're 0:13:51.280 --> 0:13:54.559 not allowed to leave out of the house until they're married. 0:13:54.840 --> 0:13:57.720 So not like to go out obviously, but like, um, 0:13:57.840 --> 0:14:01.400 they can't move without being mary, Like they can't live 0:14:01.440 --> 0:14:03.840 on their own. Yeah, a lot, a lot of it, 0:14:03.920 --> 0:14:06.360 A lot of I mean apart apart from the fact 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:11.080 that it's not that safe as well. Um traditionally, Yeah, 0:14:11.080 --> 0:14:13.440 when you leave your parents house, you leave to your 0:14:13.520 --> 0:14:15.640 husband's house. You're not going to get a house with 0:14:15.679 --> 0:14:18.559 your friends or get roommates or nothing like that. So 0:14:19.480 --> 0:14:22.280 you're like untouchable at that point. You're no one wants 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:24.200 to marry you if you're living with other people or 0:14:24.200 --> 0:14:27.520 it's something like that. That's like, I mean, it's changing. 0:14:27.680 --> 0:14:30.120 I'm not gonna lie. It definitely is changing a lot 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:32.240 because a lot of the Africans who lived in the 0:14:32.320 --> 0:14:34.600 the aspects are moving back, and a lot of the 0:14:34.640 --> 0:14:37.760 women are saying like, no, we we're not just going 0:14:37.800 --> 0:14:39.840 to go from my parents house to a man's house. 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:41.960 A man we don't know. We want to live life, 0:14:42.040 --> 0:14:44.440 we want to experience them, we want to travel the world. 0:14:44.480 --> 0:14:46.720 We want to get our career first, because I'm not 0:14:46.760 --> 0:14:48.800 going to move into a guy's house and then I'm 0:14:48.840 --> 0:14:52.920 depending on him for bills and everything I want to build. 0:14:53.400 --> 0:14:56.080 So a lot of women are speaking up, and it's 0:14:56.160 --> 0:14:58.880 it's really good to see, however, present for you to 0:14:58.920 --> 0:15:02.280 tell your parents that her marriage wasn't working out, because sometimes, 0:15:02.800 --> 0:15:04.160 first of all, I'm sorry it was something that you 0:15:04.200 --> 0:15:06.400 had to deal with like internally before you even was 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:08.200 able to go to that. And then I know you 0:15:08.320 --> 0:15:10.920 probably knew they would be so protective over you and 0:15:11.040 --> 0:15:14.120 angry about it. So what was that like for you? 0:15:16.720 --> 0:15:22.200 I was, I was. I was embarrassed, so I think 0:15:23.080 --> 0:15:25.480 I tried to cover up. We both tried. I even 0:15:25.520 --> 0:15:27.800 have a song on my album called Us and it's 0:15:27.800 --> 0:15:31.800 it's about how my marriage fell apart. I think my 0:15:31.840 --> 0:15:36.680 mom knew. UM. I think mothers always know, UM, and 0:15:36.720 --> 0:15:39.720 I wasn't prepared to tell them until everything just kind 0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:41.800 of like when I'm Lyne, and then I had to 0:15:41.880 --> 0:15:44.880 kind of like tell everyone that we've been struggling with 0:15:44.920 --> 0:15:50.240 this for a while. UM. It was it was hard 0:15:50.320 --> 0:15:54.200 for my for my brothers and my my father. UM, 0:15:54.280 --> 0:15:56.840 but my mom was I think she she kind of 0:15:56.880 --> 0:15:59.920 already knew, so she she handled it a lot. That's 0:16:01.120 --> 0:16:08.480 how do guys approach you now? They don't Are you 0:16:08.600 --> 0:16:10.520 kidding me? Not even in the d m s or 0:16:10.560 --> 0:16:13.720 anything that's crazy. I mean in my d MS, I 0:16:13.760 --> 0:16:16.680 get stuff like, um, please my tuition bills? Duke, can 0:16:16.720 --> 0:16:20.680 you can you help me? I don't girl, you do 0:16:20.800 --> 0:16:23.880 got it. You said you wanted a man, right, You 0:16:23.920 --> 0:16:28.080 ain't saying he had to be rich school and make 0:16:28.160 --> 0:16:32.120 him whatever you want him to do. I don't know. 0:16:32.160 --> 0:16:35.360 I don't. I don't. They don't really, I don't know. 0:16:35.480 --> 0:16:38.240 Or maybe I honestly, I'm so focused. I don't know. 0:16:38.320 --> 0:16:42.200 Maybe I just missed it a lot of the times. Yeah, well, 0:16:42.280 --> 0:16:44.120 it's the last time you've been on a date. I mean, 0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:50.280 I know the pandemic is going on one, but I 0:16:50.320 --> 0:16:53.920 haven't been on a proper date and he is m hm, damn, 0:16:54.200 --> 0:16:56.400 we're about to set this up. I know. I felt 0:16:56.440 --> 0:17:01.000 like show for Aron catch you guys really need to 0:17:01.040 --> 0:17:04.320 help me out. I'm being like my manager is always 0:17:04.359 --> 0:17:06.320 trying to hurt me up with some football or some 0:17:06.440 --> 0:17:14.399 basketball players. We just talked about them, really, we wine, 0:17:14.520 --> 0:17:19.280 why did you just pick up your like yeah, a man, 0:17:19.359 --> 0:17:29.280 do you think cheat? Honestly? I think I agree. I 0:17:29.320 --> 0:17:35.080 would say nineties seven y'all are wrong. Let me ask you. 0:17:35.200 --> 0:17:37.720 Let me ask you guys this, do you honestly think? 0:17:37.760 --> 0:17:42.160 Do you think men? Because if I'm gonna go biblically 0:17:43.040 --> 0:17:44.840 and you know, back in the in the in the 0:17:44.960 --> 0:17:49.760 Bible days the multiple wives, concubines and stuff, do you 0:17:49.800 --> 0:17:53.680 think a man can really be with one woman? Yes, 0:17:54.040 --> 0:17:55.479 A lot of the guys. A lot of times when 0:17:55.520 --> 0:17:58.399 I speak to men, they say to me, when they 0:17:58.680 --> 0:18:01.800 have sexual relations to other women, it's not their heart 0:18:01.920 --> 0:18:05.199 is not attached, it's just but their sperm is, and 0:18:05.280 --> 0:18:07.760 let me set you have have it. And but I 0:18:07.800 --> 0:18:10.240 feel like this, I feel like men though, don't get 0:18:10.240 --> 0:18:12.679 that way until they get older and have experienced a 0:18:12.680 --> 0:18:15.520 lot of stuff. Like I feel like when they're ready 0:18:15.520 --> 0:18:17.440 to settle down is when they're just tired of having 0:18:17.480 --> 0:18:19.920 to spend all this money and run around and do this, 0:18:20.040 --> 0:18:22.560 and but they still do bullshit though, like they'll do 0:18:22.640 --> 0:18:25.120 some sleek sneak sit on the side though. I felt 0:18:25.160 --> 0:18:28.879 like even still, yeah, I I agree, I definitely raising 0:18:28.920 --> 0:18:32.720 the sun. I think that they grow up and learn 0:18:32.800 --> 0:18:36.719 that I don't think they're born with that instinct and 0:18:36.760 --> 0:18:41.119 people excise it like it's normal. That's more than women. 0:18:42.720 --> 0:18:44.360 So you mean when okay, let me ask you this, 0:18:44.640 --> 0:18:47.680 performing right, being on tour and everything, like you don't 0:18:47.680 --> 0:18:51.760 have guys approach you then like yo, it's good. No, 0:18:51.960 --> 0:18:54.760 because honestly, I know it's gonna be a really hard 0:18:54.800 --> 0:18:58.280 to believe. But I after performance, I don't really go 0:18:58.359 --> 0:19:01.159 out to off the parties like not. I want the 0:19:01.600 --> 0:19:04.479 MTV and me UM A couple of years ago and 0:19:04.560 --> 0:19:07.120 there was an after party. I think Nikki was there 0:19:07.119 --> 0:19:09.679 and some other people, and I went straight to sleep, 0:19:09.920 --> 0:19:13.679 like I just, I don't, I don't, damn it. We 0:19:13.720 --> 0:19:19.920 didn't celebrate. I literally, I don't know. I'm just I 0:19:20.000 --> 0:19:22.000 just I just wanted to be in my room. And 0:19:22.000 --> 0:19:23.600 I just want to have a lot of female friends, 0:19:23.640 --> 0:19:28.040 like girlfriends that you hang out with. No, if there's 0:19:28.080 --> 0:19:31.040 a guy that you find attractive, are you gonna approach 0:19:31.119 --> 0:19:34.960 him or now? I think now because i'm quote unquote 0:19:35.000 --> 0:19:39.240 your sava. And if I if I have a little 0:19:39.280 --> 0:19:42.639 help from certain you know, if I drink or something 0:19:44.880 --> 0:19:47.400 I don't want to say the other thing, they might 0:19:47.480 --> 0:19:52.000 arrest me. Nigeria, Oh my gosh, I have to see 0:19:52.000 --> 0:19:54.760 what you're gonna say. I got it. You know, you 0:19:54.800 --> 0:19:58.280 guys know if I'm on that level, I think I 0:19:58.320 --> 0:20:01.520 would approach I'll say something, or I'll I'll try and 0:20:01.600 --> 0:20:09.560 be funny about it. Yeah, where's your type? Though? Um? 0:20:09.600 --> 0:20:13.719 He just I mean two eyes, two years, definitely a 0:20:13.720 --> 0:20:20.040 penis one. But yeah, he only has one ball long 0:20:20.080 --> 0:20:22.920 as I think is big. I'm like, but I don't 0:20:23.040 --> 0:20:26.879 know if I if we talk about this, yeah, I 0:20:26.920 --> 0:20:30.879 don't know if I really like really huge pisses. That's okay, 0:20:30.880 --> 0:20:35.359 I make you, I don't, right, I just want you 0:20:35.480 --> 0:20:37.600 to know what you're doing. I think when it's too big, 0:20:37.720 --> 0:20:40.680 it's it's I don't want you to hit the laws. 0:20:40.720 --> 0:20:43.840 I don't want you to destroy them. Don't knock them 0:20:43.840 --> 0:20:48.520 down now, right? What about small? What if he's small? 0:20:49.000 --> 0:20:51.040 No no, that's no, no, no no no, you need 0:20:51.080 --> 0:20:56.480 to go like right, you need to fix that. There's 0:20:56.480 --> 0:21:03.439 so much amazing and every other way. Yeah, it's still enough. Okay. 0:21:03.840 --> 0:21:07.800 What if you've got just right, but he needs to 0:21:07.880 --> 0:21:12.879 help getting through college and he's letting your m to 0:21:13.200 --> 0:21:21.440 sitution before, Oh my god, but no, for imagine that. 0:21:21.600 --> 0:21:24.239 Imagine you meet a guy, and you're out right, and 0:21:24.240 --> 0:21:26.320 then he's like, hey, you know, after a while, y'all 0:21:26.320 --> 0:21:28.879 follow each other on Instagram and you see that he 0:21:29.000 --> 0:21:32.040 sent you a message back in the day, like maybe 0:21:32.080 --> 0:21:34.760 like a few months ago, and there was some crazy 0:21:34.880 --> 0:21:37.639 weirdo ship. Would you would you kind of? Because you 0:21:37.640 --> 0:21:39.920 know how people say say it's a picture of his dick, 0:21:40.119 --> 0:21:42.960 because we get that often. Oh my god, that's disgusting. 0:21:43.080 --> 0:21:45.840 Would you continue? But he's a nice guy, he doesn't 0:21:45.840 --> 0:21:48.160 swept you off your feet and everything, But nine months 0:21:48.160 --> 0:21:50.479 ago he sent you a picture of his dick? Would 0:21:50.520 --> 0:21:57.000 you continue to talk to him? No? He's probably sent 0:21:57.119 --> 0:21:58.960 out to a lot of people, like why would you 0:21:59.600 --> 0:22:04.879 he's Have you ever sent news? No, not even to 0:22:04.960 --> 0:22:08.120 your husband, but I have. I have said like bikini's 0:22:08.160 --> 0:22:10.800