1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast today. 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 2: I am really excited because we have Alex Marlow here. 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:08,639 Speaker 1: He is the editor in chief of Breitbart News. 4 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 2: And for those of you who don't know my background, 5 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 2: I started in this world, in the media world with 6 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:18,920 Speaker 2: real America's voice, and one of my go to sources 7 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 2: was always Breitbart because they are cutting edge, they always 8 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 2: have the inside scoop, and they are a great organization. 9 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 2: But they don't get enough play because Google did this 10 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 2: horrible thing where they took them off. And honestly, I 11 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 2: think it's relevant right now because we're talking about D 12 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 2: banking and the President has been talking about D banking, 13 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,480 Speaker 2: but it's more than just D banking. What happened to Breitbart. 14 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 2: I think that they were a major source for such 15 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 2: a long time and then the leftists tried to hide them. 16 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 2: So for all of you who are looking for the 17 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 2: real news, it's Breitbart and Alex Marlow is the editor 18 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 2: in chief. 19 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:57,639 Speaker 1: He is also the host of the Alex Marlow Show. 20 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 2: Podcast, and he has a new book out called Breaking Law, 21 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 2: exposing the weaponization of America's legal system against Donald Trump. Alex, 22 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 2: thank you so much for joining me. 23 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 3: Tutor is such a nice introduction. Thank you for having 24 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 3: me on the show. And I'll tell you the Google 25 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 3: stuff is so important. We really were the canaries in 26 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:16,119 Speaker 3: the coal mine for cancel culture. They try to destroy 27 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 3: us with all sorts of smears, particularly that we were 28 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:22,119 Speaker 3: anti Semitic, even though the company was founded in by 29 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 3: Jews and the idea for it came from Israel and 30 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 3: were one hundred percent pro Israel, and it's just sort 31 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 3: of especially in this moment, but they would come up 32 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 3: with anything try to smear us. And then right before 33 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 3: the twenty twenty election, Google completely took us off. So 34 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 3: you can't get Breitbart in Google searches unless you use 35 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 3: the word Breitbart. That was the little technicality they used. 36 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 3: So we didn't assue them into the ground, which I 37 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:45,119 Speaker 3: don't know. Could you see Google in the ground. They're 38 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 3: pretty greright exactly. 39 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: That's the problem. They have so much money. 40 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, So you know, this is a real positive that 41 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 3: could happen with the AI era, which is maybe people 42 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 3: are not as hooked on using Google searches, which is 43 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 3: very bad for the conservative movement because they cooked the 44 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 3: results to favor left wing causes and to try to 45 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 3: destroy conservative businesses. 46 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 4: Too, which is important and Breitbart. 47 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 2: My experience with Breitbart is that there is an expert 48 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 2: in almost every area, so it's a massive amount of 49 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 2: writers that are out there every day. 50 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: Doing real journalism. 51 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 2: And I think that's important to say because I think 52 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 2: a lot of these blogs have turned into news sites, 53 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 2: but they're not because they're not true journalism. You have 54 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 2: to question some of the things that you're getting. That 55 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 2: is not the case with Breitbart. I've always been so 56 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 2: impressed with everything you guys do, and I just I 57 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 2: want to make sure people know that's that's a go 58 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 2: to Yeah. 59 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 4: Thank you. A couple of responses to that. 60 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 3: First of all, my starting lineup is as good as 61 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 3: any starting lineup in media. I guarantee you that if 62 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 3: I took my best world reporter, my best economics reporter, 63 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 3: you know, my best political reporter, I would kick the 64 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 3: Wall Street journals. But it's not even close. They have 65 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 3: more resources, so they have more depth than I have. 66 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 3: Ot have as many people, so I can't cover quite 67 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 3: as much ground, but we cover a lot of essential stuff, 68 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 3: and I think because of that, we're actually the best 69 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 3: at curation. I think if you go to Breitbart, you're 70 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:06,839 Speaker 3: not going to see any fat. There's no fat. I've 71 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 3: worked on that over many years. I've been at her 72 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 3: in chief for eleven years, and so nothing there is 73 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 3: going to be boring or bad and everything. If you're 74 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 3: a talk show host, the whole goal. Because I grew 75 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 3: up on talk radio that was my entree into conservative news. 76 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:22,799 Speaker 3: I want it so that I could because I watched 77 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 3: Andrew Brechbart do this in real time. I want to 78 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 3: be able to send a story to The biggest host 79 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 3: in the world at the time was Rush Limbaugh. 80 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 4: You know you're in the Clay and Buck network. I 81 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 4: want klaim Buck and. 82 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 3: You to be able to take the story and just 83 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 3: to read it on air to a vast audience and 84 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 3: not a thing twice about it, because when they see 85 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 3: that orange be at the top, they know this thing 86 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 3: is legit and they don't have to double check it. 87 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 3: And you can't do that with your sources on X 88 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 3: the Everything app, which I enjoyed Twitter as much as anyone, 89 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 3: but it's in the influencer culture we're in. People are 90 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 3: trying to get out there first, even if it's not accurate, 91 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 3: and they're being a little sensational if that gets more clicks. 92 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 3: I can't do that running a big news company, and 93 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 3: we are one hundred percent focus on accuracy first, and 94 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 3: that's why hopefully we burned your trust. 95 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that actually it's it's one of those things 96 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 2: where I see something and I go to your site 97 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 2: to see if I can verify it. Like yesterday there 98 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 2: were there was this and in this whole era on Monday. 99 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 2: But last week, so there was this I guess it 100 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 2: was a protest in Virginia, and I'm sure you saw 101 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,919 Speaker 2: the woman who held up the sign, sure that said 102 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 2: the horrible thing about it if trans people can't use 103 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 2: your bathroom, and then she said to win some sears, 104 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 2: then black people can't use my. 105 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 4: Water for fountain, right. 106 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, and people were horrified. 107 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 2: But honestly, I saw it and I was like, I 108 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 2: don't know if this is true, Like, how could it 109 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 2: be true? 110 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 1: How could the left have gone to that level? Yeah, 111 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: it's shocking. 112 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. 113 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 3: And that's and that's one of the things where you 114 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 3: can rely on us to kind of get to the 115 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 3: bottom of those types of stories on your behalf, because 116 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 3: I'm not going to put up anything that is especially. 117 00:04:57,720 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 4: The AI era. 118 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 3: I we have so many reps because we do one 119 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 3: hundred plus stories a day. We've been doing it for 120 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 3: sixteen seventeen years since we relaunched Breitbart, and so it's 121 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 3: one of these things where we're accustomed to doing. The 122 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 3: first thing is if this is too good to be true, 123 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 3: it probably is, So let's work it through. And if 124 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 3: you're trying to, you know, dominate on the X platform, 125 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 3: you can't do that. 126 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 4: You gotta you. 127 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 3: Gotta double check it. But one thing that is notable, though, 128 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 3: is that we assume the left is will do any 129 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 3: of that. I mean, they tried to kill President Trump 130 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 3: a couple times last year, and there was all these 131 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 3: people championing online. Just the amount of people who call 132 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 3: for assassinations of President Trump online is just is just amazing. 133 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 4: And the it is a normative view. 134 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 3: I mean, the most obvious news cycle that's a corollarya 135 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 3: is the Sydney Sweeney one recently, where there are people 136 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 3: in the top of the left wing commentariat who were 137 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 3: saying this is a right wing hoax, that they didn't 138 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 3: say that this was racist and Nazis, and then you 139 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 3: go to TikTok and every other post was, oh, this 140 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 3: is a Nazi ad and it's like You guys can't 141 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,039 Speaker 3: fool us with that anymore. We know how you operate. 142 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 3: You just you have no control, you've no governor, you've 143 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 3: no sensors. So that's why people see signs like that, 144 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 3: and me, the presumption is it's legit. Maybe it's not 145 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 3: every once in a while, but for the most part, 146 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 3: that stuff is real. 147 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 4: That's what the left does. 148 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 2: But I honestly I wondered when that American Eagle ad 149 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 2: came out because we shop there. I have four girls, 150 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 2: they're all at that age where that's the store to 151 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 2: go to, and it had been it had been dropping 152 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 2: off in sales, so they did this as a way 153 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 2: to kind of build back their sales, and then they 154 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 2: got hit with this backlash, and I thought, I hope 155 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:40,359 Speaker 2: this doesn't kill another business, because it is really hard 156 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 2: to find clothes for kids because you don't have that 157 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 2: many stores you can actually go to, and kids are 158 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 2: all awkward sizes. 159 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: They've got to try things on. So we went to 160 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 1: them all last weekend and the American Eagle was shoulder 161 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 1: to shoulder with people. 162 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 4: Oh wild, I. 163 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 2: Thought was a great commentary on how people are not 164 00:06:57,760 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 2: believing this bologna anymore. 165 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 3: This is such an interesting topic and has nothing to 166 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 3: do with anything I've been reporting on. But I just 167 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 3: a part of part of my life because I've got 168 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 3: four young kids, is that you want to I'm pro. 169 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 4: Boycott because I think it's good for the soul. 170 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 3: I don't know if it always hurts businesses, but I 171 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 3: think that sometimes I don't feel good buying Nike because 172 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 3: of the stuff they've done over the years. We're not 173 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 3: going to and I don't think I'm gonna be able 174 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 3: to destroy Nike single handedly, even with my platform and Brightboard. 175 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 3: I can't even announce it to my audience. I'm not 176 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 3: buying Nike. I don't know if I can destroy them. 177 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 3: It's just but I will tell you I don't feel 178 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 3: good with their products, so I don't. But if you 179 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 3: think about some of these these you know, material retailers. 180 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 3: If you want a boycott a Walmart because you don't 181 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 3: like their predatory business practices, then you go to Amazon 182 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 3: with world's richest man who owns the Washington Post, which 183 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 3: just puts out NonStop assaults on our on our republic, 184 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 3: And so you. 185 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 4: Don't want to do that, So okay, so I'll go 186 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 4: to Target. 187 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 3: But Target was the original Let's have the guys in 188 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 3: the girls' bathroom people, so you want to do that, 189 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 3: and then we're going to shop, and then it becomes 190 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 3: very very challenging to do that. Disney is so repulsive 191 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 3: in so many ways, but the stuff on Netflix is worse, 192 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 3: and the stuff on Disney, it just is. 193 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:06,559 Speaker 4: It's just worse. 194 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 3: And so it's like, if I'm boycott in Disney, then 195 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 3: that means what am I supposed to use Netflix? Where 196 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 3: the corporate board donates a ninety nine to one percent 197 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 3: to Democrats, and then they put out even worse content 198 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 3: for kids. So it's it's really really hard, and we 199 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 3: all got to work together, dude. 200 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 4: This is the point. We got to work as a 201 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:24,679 Speaker 4: conservative movement. We got to sort this stuff out together. 202 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 2: And that's why I think it's so important to have 203 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 2: these platforms where we can talk. And I am grateful 204 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 2: to claim Buck that they give me this platform. And 205 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 2: that's why I do want to get into what happened 206 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 2: to Donald Trump, because it was something that we really 207 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 2: weren't allowed to talk to talk about during the campaign. 208 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 1: Obviously we all did, but the left was like. 209 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 2: Hey, you can't say that Donald Trump is being targeted 210 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 2: he's a bad guy, and we're all watching this, especially 211 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 2: business people, and saying what happened in New York is unreasonable, 212 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 2: It's unconstitutional. 213 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 1: How can there be no a victimless. 214 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 2: Crime that is created by the Attorney general or the 215 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 2: district attorney and then you and then you owe half 216 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 2: a billion dollars. 217 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, the Tiss James case is I'm happy this is 218 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 3: getting a lot of scrutiny because what I write about 219 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 3: in Breaking the Law is I frame this up as 220 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 3: we're starting an investigation season. It's a more upbeat book 221 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 3: than some of my past books. I would say it's 222 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 3: in a way, it's my most upbeat, even though some 223 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 3: of it's very dark and very scary, and there's a 224 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 3: big warning and a call to action for people that 225 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 3: I think the left wing law fier superstructure is the 226 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 3: single biggest threat to MAGA, and we can talk about that, 227 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 3: but I'll tell you, with this particular administration, I feel 228 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 3: a confidence that we're going to see some investigations and 229 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 3: maybe people won't get fully held. 230 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:45,199 Speaker 4: To account the way that they deserve. 231 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 3: I'm way too cynical to promise that to the audience, 232 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 3: but I will tell you that there are some really obvious, 233 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 3: glaring violations of the law that are going to be 234 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 3: pressed by this administration. And I put the book out 235 00:09:57,880 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 3: on I guess what was about three weeks ago, and 236 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 3: three days later they announced that they were investigating Kiss. 237 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 3: James was the number one person that I called for 238 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,199 Speaker 3: an investigation into, and I called for six to ten 239 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 3: investigations in the book. But she's the number one because 240 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 3: what she did was it was so blatantly a violation 241 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 3: of due process rights and equal justice under a law, 242 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 3: the fifth and sixth Amendment. 243 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 4: And then when we're talking about. 244 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 3: What happened the other day where the penalty against Donald 245 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:25,679 Speaker 3: Trump was thrown out, it was thrown out for the 246 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 3: eighth Amendment cruel and unusual punishment, which, of course it 247 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 3: was Donald Trump had, according to James and a judge 248 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 3: Arthur Engern, defrauded these banks. 249 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 4: But these banks loved dealing with Trump. They loved dealing 250 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 4: with him. 251 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 3: Trump didn't owe them a penny, They didn't launch one 252 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 3: complaint about him. But she had claimed that he'd undervalued 253 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 3: his properties, and thus he had committed a violation that 254 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 3: needed over three hundred million dollars in penalty plus interest, 255 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 3: which amounted to over half a billion dollars in the end, 256 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 3: all of this was clearly cruel and unusual. We've never 257 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 3: seen anything done like this to a president. We've never 258 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 3: seen this done to really any individual at all. She's 259 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 3: supposed to be representing the state of New York, but 260 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 3: she ends up kind of forcing these banks into participating 261 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 3: into this, and the banks kind. 262 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 4: Of liked Trump, and some of them really liked Trump, and. 263 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 3: All that was design to be a political persecution, and 264 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 3: so she's the number one person should be investigated, and 265 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 3: clearly that penalty should have been vacated, and I'm glad it. 266 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:22,839 Speaker 2: Was, But I think it is even deeper than Donald Trump. 267 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 2: I mean that penalty also included his sons and meant 268 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 2: he couldn't be involved in business. It meant they couldn't 269 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 2: be involved in business in New York. I mean, it 270 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 2: was wide ranging. How damaging it was to the Trump family. 271 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 3: Your various dude to point this out, because this was 272 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 3: the case where they tried to bar all sorts of 273 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 3: different Trumps from being able to apply their craft to 274 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 3: practice real estate in New York, a city where they're iconic. 275 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:45,959 Speaker 4: We're the most famous family in the city. 276 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 3: Of the most famous city in the country, and they 277 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 3: were trying to ban Donald and Eric from being able 278 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 3: to practice for five years. In initially, James had eyes 279 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 3: on avodka and people who were not even really in 280 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 3: this sort of game, the real estate game, and that's 281 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 3: how nitive they were trying to be simply for the 282 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 3: crime of being the Trumps. 283 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 284 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: the Tutor Dixon podcast. I think this was very eye opening. 285 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 2: For even people on the left because it was the 286 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 2: penalty was so big. I think the penalty was so 287 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 2: big because they thought, well, if you make it this big, 288 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:23,679 Speaker 2: then the people have to get behind it, because how 289 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 2: could you possibly get a penalty this big if the 290 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 2: person weren't very, very corrupt, if the person weren't a criminal. However, 291 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 2: I think that backfired on them because people went, there's 292 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 2: no victim, and now he has to pay half a 293 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 2: billion dollars. This is the former president of the United States, 294 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:44,119 Speaker 2: and everybody was saying, this wouldn't have happened. 295 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:46,439 Speaker 1: If you weren't running Again, wait a minute. 296 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 2: This is stuff we see in other countries, not in 297 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 2: the United States. 298 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 3: It's right, yeah, I make this point. This is stuff 299 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 3: that you would see in Brazil Venezuela. It's not something 300 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 3: we're accustomed to seeing in the United States, and we 301 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 3: were way too casual about it. Which is one of 302 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:58,439 Speaker 3: the reason why I wanted to write the book is 303 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 3: that Trump had to go through six of these cases simultaneously, 304 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 3: all of which I'm a pretty tough guy. I think 305 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 3: I would have been the fetal position on one of 306 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 3: these things. And he had six of them, and he 307 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 3: somehow ran for president and won during all this, which 308 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 3: is colossally unjust, and we just can't take it for 309 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 3: granted that we happen to have a guy at the 310 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 3: top who has a lot of rhinocero skin and has 311 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 3: a just a huge force of will. And let's be 312 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 3: Frank is incredibly rich, and that was a huge advantage here. 313 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 3: Chiss Shames was holding on or I'm sure she is. 314 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:32,839 Speaker 3: She's gonna have to give it back momentarily. I have 315 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 3: million dollars of his money that he had to put 316 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 3: up on bond. I mean, he should get paid interest 317 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 3: on that, to be Frank, because it was an illegitimate penalty. 318 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 3: He still had to put up one hundred and seventy 319 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 3: five million, even for billionaires. I don't know a lot 320 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 3: of them, Tutor, but I know enough to know that 321 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:48,719 Speaker 3: not all of them are liquid enough where they can 322 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 3: just find one hundred and seventy five million lying around, 323 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 3: even if they're paper on paper, they're extremely wealthy. It's 324 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 3: a lot of money. He'd put this up in the 325 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 3: middle of a campaign, trying to win a campaign. We've 326 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 3: never seen anything like this in America. It's a disgrace, 327 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 3: and the people's heads don't roll. If there aren't consequences, 328 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 3: they're going to do it again. And you also point 329 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 3: something out that's so big. It's not just Trump. Trump's 330 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 3: the main guy, but I go through with dozens of 331 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 3: other people who have been wrapped up in this. It's 332 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 3: just not as headline grabbing because they're not running for 333 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 3: president and are the president. 334 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: But other people that are running have to worry about this. 335 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 2: And I say that from personal experience because I ran 336 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 2: for governor and then you come out of that race 337 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 2: and we had we had legal battles with the state, 338 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 2: and we had threats from the state, and I was like, 339 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 2: oh my gosh, we're going to be here. I am 340 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 2: not running and we're going to be targeted by these 341 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 2: lunatics here, and that comes into play when you think 342 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 2: about running again. Look, my kids are going into their 343 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 2: last six years of school. I don't want to go 344 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 2: to prison. I don't want to be accused of some 345 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 2: crime I didn't commit. I want to be there for them. 346 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 2: How insane is it to think that running for office 347 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 2: and I'm not rich, I'm not in that situation, so 348 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 2: I'm like, gosh, they could just disappear me into a 349 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 2: prison somewhere. And that's honestly a consideration. Now when you 350 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 2: run for office, you're. 351 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 3: Right to point this out because this is one of 352 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 3: the things that I think is the biggest threat, is 353 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 3: that we're constructing a system so that normal human beings 354 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 3: are not going to seek the highest office in the land. 355 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 4: You'll have to be a very strange person. 356 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 3: And I mean, to want to be president, obviously, you 357 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 3: have to have a massive ego to think that you 358 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 3: should be president. But it's the We would like to 359 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 3: have people that have some sense of shame or humility 360 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 3: to be able to run, and we can't. 361 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 4: This is a whole thing. 362 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 3: I talk about this a little bit, just as a 363 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 3: brief aside in the book about how the obsession with 364 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 3: Trump's tax returns, like, oh, what do they want them for? 365 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 3: I mean, what are they trying to do to prove 366 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 3: he's not a good businessman or he's not charitable enough. 367 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 3: And then they finally got some of them and Rachel 368 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 3: Maddow played it up and they were perfectly fine, you 369 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 3: paid a huge amount of taxes and there's nothing wrong 370 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 3: with any of them. 371 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 4: They just want to have a public hole and. 372 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 3: Oscoy to harass people so that normal people who have 373 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 3: a sense of dignity, who don't who don't want their 374 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 3: name drag through the mud, aren't going to enter civic life. 375 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 3: That's not going to help our country. It's going to 376 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 3: hurt our country. But the left doesn't care because they 377 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 3: see this as a way of assuring that they'll have 378 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 3: more political power. That's what law fair is all about. 379 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 3: It is making the legal system, the judicial system, a 380 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 3: part of their apparatus for constructing power around themselves in 381 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 3: a permanent capacity. 382 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 4: That's what it is. That's what they're doing, and to. 383 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 3: Understand the mechanics of it is very fundamental to us 384 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 3: saving the republic. 385 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 2: So they passed this law in Michigan in I think 386 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 2: it was the end of twenty two and it was 387 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 2: going into effect in twenty three, so I ran in 388 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 2: twenty two. They passed it after the election, it went 389 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 2: into effect in twenty three, and that was that you, 390 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:46,479 Speaker 2: if you are an elected official, you have to disclose 391 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 2: all of your finances, and if you are running for office, 392 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 2: you have to disclose all of your finances, which I 393 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 2: think that for someone who is running for office, oftentimes 394 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 2: it is someone who has been very successful, because it's 395 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 2: extremely expensive, and that to me is a deterrent to 396 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 2: have somebody going because you know, it's why is it 397 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 2: anybody's business what you've made over the last. 398 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 1: Year or two years, you know. 399 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 2: And so they passed this and then they put it 400 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:15,439 Speaker 2: in retroactive, so they go after everybody who's run in 401 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 2: the past and say you have to disclose your finances 402 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 2: and if you don't disclose your finances, then you get fined. 403 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 2: And I said to my attorney, how is it possible 404 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 2: that they can retroactively force me to put everything out 405 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 2: there about my and your husband has to as well, 406 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:37,400 Speaker 2: So your spouse has to also disclose everything financially. Whitmer 407 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 2: had before this went into effect, moved all of her 408 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 2: money into LLCs that no one could see. So her 409 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 2: report is like, Oh, all this money went into an LLC, 410 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 2: you don't have any detail about it. And I'm like, 411 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 2: this is this is so it's a stupid because you 412 00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 2: pass these. 413 00:17:58,200 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 1: Laws just to pass the law, and the. 414 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 2: Actual elected officials they know how the law works, so 415 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 2: they manipulate everything so it doesn't matter anyway. But anybody 416 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:12,159 Speaker 2: who comes into it unknowing, they're like sitting there with 417 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 2: the pants down. 418 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 3: I just asked the audience to do this test on yourself. 419 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 3: It's like for me, I've never missed a tax payment. 420 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 3: I pay six figures in taxes. I'm a good American. 421 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:22,679 Speaker 3: I've never been arrested for anything. I don't want to 422 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 3: have a public holenoscopy for my finances for the public 423 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 3: if I ran for office, that doesn't That's just the 424 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 3: sort of thing where with my personality, I don't want that. 425 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 3: My wife is a private person. She practices medicine, curing 426 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 3: cancer of the people. 427 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:36,880 Speaker 4: In the community. 428 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:38,439 Speaker 3: I don't want her to have to go through all 429 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 3: that stuff because her husband wants might want to get 430 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 3: into politics one day. 431 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 4: That doesn't make any sense to me. That does not 432 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 4: make America better. Does that make America better? 433 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 3: Or is this a tool of the left trying to 434 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 3: get some of our best and brightest people out of 435 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:51,679 Speaker 3: the political space. 436 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:53,959 Speaker 4: That's obviously what it is, and that's what they were. 437 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 3: Everything that they did to Donald Trump wasn't just about 438 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 3: Trump and his quote, which I refer to millions of 439 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 3: times the book, and not millions, but it's several times 440 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 3: in the book. 441 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 4: They're not coming after me, They're coming after you. I'm 442 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 4: just in the way. 443 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 3: That is the one time when you've got to take 444 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 3: Trump literally. He's being dead serious about this. Yes, they're 445 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 3: trying to get the bench, people like you who are 446 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:14,640 Speaker 3: warming up in the bullpen, who are ready to go 447 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 3: to say, you know what, never mind, I'm gonna go 448 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 3: make some money and hang out with my kids and 449 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go enjoy America and I'm not going to 450 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 3: get involved. 451 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 4: That's not going to help us. And that's their whole plan. 452 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:27,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely. I mean this is a state. In Michigan. 453 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 2: You can't foia the governor, you can't foia the legislature, 454 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 2: but if you run for office, they can look through 455 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 2: everything you've ever done in your life. It's shocking. So 456 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 2: once you're in office, you're totally protected. Nobody can see anything. 457 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 2: And I even talked to a Republican and I said, 458 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 2: while you guys are in control, pass a bill to 459 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:48,919 Speaker 2: say you want to have the legislature to have FOYA 460 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 2: and to have the governor be subject to FOYA. 461 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 1: And they said. 462 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 2: This person said to me, we we don't want to 463 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 2: do that. It'll just complicate things. Then we have to 464 00:19:57,880 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 2: have a second email. And I'm like, it doesn't even 465 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 2: that you should. The public should know what you're doing. 466 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 2: You're like, I'll just game it. 467 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 3: See and it's something if then you know everything about 468 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 3: you before you took office, even private stuff, but then 469 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 3: once you're in office, then they can be secretive. I mean, 470 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 3: it just shows you that it's just we've such a 471 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 3: systemic rot and that's why we got to start dealing 472 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 3: with it. We can't let people get away with everything. 473 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 3: We can't have two tiers of justice. Are you there's 474 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 3: three tiers of justice? Now that there's the And I 475 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 3: think your point is illustrates this your last anecdote, because 476 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 3: it's not just that there's a system of justice for 477 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 3: some people, that there's the system of justice for President 478 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 3: Trump or just by breathing the error. 479 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 4: You get a half a billion dollar penalty, have a 480 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 4: billion dollar penalty. 481 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 3: But then there's this third tier, this Comy Brennan Clapper tier, 482 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 3: where you get CNN contributorships and you get book deals 483 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 3: because you've evaded the law. And I believe we'll find 484 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 3: out broke the law eventually, and that's not okay either. 485 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 3: So we've really got to start making hay while the 486 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 3: sun shining here. And it feels like with the team 487 00:20:56,840 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 3: in place, with Cash and Dan and with Ed Martin, 488 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:01,640 Speaker 3: and it feels like we might be able to start 489 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 3: getting some results here. 490 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,239 Speaker 2: That is what I think has been so shocking is 491 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 2: when the book came out about Joe Biden and what's 492 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 2: his name, Tapper was out there saying, oh, look at 493 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 2: what I've done. I've exposed all of this, and I 494 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 2: was horrified because I'm like you, guys, Jake Tapper saw 495 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 2: it the whole time he was covering for it. He 496 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 2: even admits that in the debate he was like, oh crap, 497 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,120 Speaker 2: like we're busted, and I don't believe for a minute 498 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 2: that was the first time he noticed Joe was longer. 499 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: He knew the entire time they all knew the entire time. 500 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 2: Now you've got the guy who said I testified that 501 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 2: he was okay, but I only met him a twice 502 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 2: in person and twice on the phone. 503 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 1: This is shocking stuff. 504 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:44,679 Speaker 3: So I think you and I might be on a 505 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 3: similar page here, which no one is. I feel like 506 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,120 Speaker 3: no one's with me on this, but maybe you are. 507 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 3: I think there was no cover up. I don't think 508 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 3: it was the greatest cover up of all time, and 509 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 3: there's zero coverup. We all knew Biden was in deep 510 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 3: mental decline. We all knew that his doctors had been 511 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 3: lying by his mental conditions. My previous book, Breaking Biden, 512 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 3: was a deep dive in the Biden family and their corruption, 513 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 3: a New York Times bestseller. The stuff was not secret. 514 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 3: I spent a lot of time researching this family. We 515 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 3: all knew he was in steady decline. This was the 516 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 3: media trying to cover their own asses because they had 517 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 3: signed up that, yeah, we're going to roll with Biden, 518 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:18,440 Speaker 3: and then they realized it wasn't going to work and 519 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 3: they were going to lose badly, and they were just 520 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 3: trying to cover for themselves because they're part of the 521 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 3: Democrat apparatus. That gets Democrats elected, the establishing media, the 522 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 3: Jake Tappers of the world, and they'd come up with 523 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 3: some way to scapegoat a bunch of. 524 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 4: People who are irrelevant. 525 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:36,639 Speaker 3: There's not one person who's called out in that in 526 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:38,919 Speaker 3: that book, and I read the book, who is going 527 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 3: to be relevant going forward? It's all personal airing of 528 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 3: grievances about people who are out of power, part of 529 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 3: Biden world and will never return to power. 530 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 4: So it's very convenient to note that. 531 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 532 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:58,120 Speaker 1: the Tutor Dixon podcast. I believe that. 533 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 2: This was they felt they could get away with it 534 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 2: because they've always been kind of a group management company. 535 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 2: When they've gone in it's been like, we have this 536 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 2: core team. There's a president, and he gets to call 537 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 2: the shots to a certain point, but we all we 538 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,880 Speaker 2: all it is group think. It is not the way 539 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,400 Speaker 2: that one guy goes I think Obama had a lot 540 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 2: of control, but I still think there are a lot 541 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 2: of people around him that were like, he's a he's 542 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,400 Speaker 2: a junior senator. We can make this guy do whatever 543 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 2: we want. Yes, and they and they didn't think they'd 544 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 2: ever get busted. 545 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 4: No, they didn't. 546 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 3: And yeah, the whole poll up bureau motto model that 547 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 3: they had, where they had this core team of advisors 548 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,400 Speaker 3: and some of which were unknown. There's even one name 549 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,439 Speaker 3: apparently in the inner circle that I didn't even know 550 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 3: after I spent a year and a half researching this guy, 551 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 3: so I knew that all the others, so I think 552 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 3: I had a good sense of what was going on. 553 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,439 Speaker 3: But these people making decisions, plus the auto pen stuff, 554 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 3: obviously we've got to start investigating all this because not 555 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 3: all this legal, and if we spend time on it, 556 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,360 Speaker 3: we'll learn some of it was illegal. 557 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 4: And hopefully people get held to account. 558 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 3: But it is pretty wild that the public thinks they're 559 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 3: electing one really odd old person, and then it ends 560 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 3: up you get this team of fools who are running 561 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 3: our country without any accountability, and then the media covers 562 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 3: up for it for the whole time until it's really 563 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 3: convenient for them to stop covering up for it. It's 564 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 3: just such a disgrace and that's why we need to 565 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 3: repeal and replace the media. 566 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 2: I mean, and even when you look at the team 567 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 2: that was in there, and you had Jen Saki with 568 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 2: her weird intern that they were doing all the social 569 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 2: media like this is I mean, when you look back 570 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:30,640 Speaker 2: at that now, you go, can you imagine if Trump 571 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 2: did that, people would go crazy, group crazy crazy. 572 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, and you don't know how who's really calling the shots. 573 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 3: And it is a town where a lot of people 574 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 3: who are really ambitious but are not really smarter qualified 575 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 3: can can get pretty high in Washington. 576 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,120 Speaker 2: So that's what I want to I want to ask 577 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,439 Speaker 2: what you think going forward because I've seen this social 578 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,719 Speaker 2: media craze. I mean, obviously we saw Whitmer doing all 579 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,479 Speaker 2: the weird you know, she had the potato and then 580 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 2: she had the the dorito that she fed to the 581 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,439 Speaker 2: woman on the ground and all of these very strange 582 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 2: social media of things. But I think that I thought 583 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 2: that was weird. 584 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 1: I really did. 585 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 2: I was like, this is totally bizarre and totally inappropriate 586 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 2: for anybody who is an executive. If I had done 587 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 2: this at my previous company, people would I would be fired. 588 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 2: You know, this is the kind of stuff that you 589 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 2: fire employees for. And this is the CEO of the state. 590 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 2: Gavin Newsom has gone, in my opinion. 591 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 1: Totally off the rails. My husband the other night said 592 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 1: to me, he. 593 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 2: Said, oh, but that's not really him. That's like a 594 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 2: a just a Twitter account that is like, you know, 595 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 2: supportive of him. I said, it is his press office, 596 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 2: Like what are you talking about? This is his official account. 597 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 2: What do you think is happening? It's insane. 598 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 4: Yeah. 599 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 3: This reminds me of what I tell my newsroom, which 600 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 3: is that when the press secretary speaks, when Kareem John 601 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 3: Pierre speaks, that when you're when we're putting up front 602 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:54,400 Speaker 3: page headlines, generally the default should not be Kareem John 603 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 3: Pierre Colan. When we're phrasing the headline, it's white House Colon, 604 00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 3: Like this is the White House. He's the spokesperson for 605 00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 3: the White House. That's who she is speaking for. This 606 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 3: is these spokespeople for, you know, the governor of Michigan, 607 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 3: the governor of California. 608 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 4: They've got these weird That's what it is. 609 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 3: And you can't it's not a joke that you've a 610 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 3: press office. The press office is supposed to liaison with 611 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 3: the public so that you could theoretically spend your time 612 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,679 Speaker 3: governing if you're the governor, and you can do stuff, 613 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 3: and you can meet with people, and you can conduct 614 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 3: means and do the job that is necessary, and these 615 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 3: are the people who talk to the press in the 616 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,199 Speaker 3: meantime while you're working. Now, let's just use as a 617 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 3: campaign troll operation. And I just hope that the public 618 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 3: rejects it. And that one of the things that Trump does, 619 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 3: and he obviously a very aggressive trolley press team. 620 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 4: But first of all, I think some. 621 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 3: Of that is because they do they don't have a 622 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 3: compliant press that will just print all their stuff unless 623 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 3: they do what they need to do to get attention. 624 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 3: But the other thing is Trump in the meantime is 625 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 3: operating very efficiently. I've never seen anyone do so much 626 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 3: in seven months, and so you get you get away 627 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 3: with that. Gavin Newsom in California is perfect examples. I'm California. 628 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,160 Speaker 3: His record is atrocious. He's done nothing. He hasn't even 629 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 3: done the left wing stuff he's promised, like he talks 630 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 3: a big game on left wing stuff like high speed reel, 631 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 3: like he didn't even build that and you know, water 632 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 3: desalination stuff like that. He can't do any of the 633 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 3: things that he's talked about. He wasn't prepared for the fires. 634 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 3: He isn't a helped homelessness, He's in't helped traffic. The 635 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 3: LA Airport's the worst airport in the world. And then 636 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 3: we're supposed to the World Cup and the Olympics back 637 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 3: to back, and how are people to fly in the 638 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 3: place is a complete disaster. He hasn't fixed one problem 639 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 3: in thirty years in public life. But he's got a 640 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 3: great press office. They're hilarious at trolling Trump. 641 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 2: Come on, no that so that, I think is what 642 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 2: you're saying is so important for the American people to hear. 643 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 2: This may be funny, and there is an opening I 644 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 2: hear for late night television. If that's where he wants 645 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,679 Speaker 2: to go, I welcome him to go there, but this 646 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 2: is not how you lead, and your record should be 647 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 2: on how you lead. And really that's why people there. 648 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 2: I've known people who are hardcore Republicans, mega Republicans have said, 649 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 2: I don't love what tru says on social media, but 650 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 2: I love what he does because that's actually more important. 651 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,679 Speaker 2: The social media part isn't What you actually do is 652 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 2: more important. What he's doing in Washington, d C. You've 653 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 2: got leftists who are just screaming and crying over what 654 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 2: he's doing in Washington, DC, and Democrats on the ground 655 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:17,880 Speaker 2: that are like, thank goodness, we're safe. 656 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 4: This is an incredibly important point. 657 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 3: And then, because remember, not everyone loves Trump Trump's Twitter, 658 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 3: We've all sort of accepted Trump's Twitter at this point, 659 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 3: which is which is which is fine. I've always been 660 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 3: okay with it, but it's the I completely understood people 661 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,160 Speaker 3: who didn't love it. I mean, now, I think after 662 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:36,639 Speaker 3: they tried to kill him a bunch of times and 663 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 3: bankrupt them and bankrupt his family and throw him in jail, 664 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 3: and yeah, yeah, now you do whatever he wants as 665 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 3: hard as I'm but you know, I totally understood the 666 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 3: beginning of his administration because. 667 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 4: I was the guy who at Bright Bart we put 668 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 4: everything on the line. 669 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 3: We were the first major outlet to get phind Trump, 670 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 3: and we put everything on the line. And a lot 671 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 3: of it had to do with the immigration and I 672 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 3: wanted to see the immigration the boarder get sealed up 673 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 3: and for us to crack down on the v overstays 674 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 3: and to start resetting America's immigration pollsy and that got 675 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 3: pushed way to the bottom of the pile. And he 676 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 3: had a good run the last year year and a 677 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 3: half on immigration, but we had to wait two and 678 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 3: a half years before we got any movement whatsoever on immigration. 679 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 3: That was wildly frustrating. When he's out there tweeting all 680 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 3: the time, I understand it. But the bottom line is 681 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 3: is that he does attempt to govern every day. He 682 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 3: does wake up in the morning and try to get 683 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 3: stuff done done. I don't see any evidence of that 684 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 3: from the Gavenusans of the world. And I've been one 685 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 3: of his constituents for a very long time. I do 686 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 3: not see him getting up in the morning and trying 687 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 3: to get stuff done other than get more men on 688 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 3: women's podiums in sports. 689 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 2: But see that, And I've kept you long, but I'll 690 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 2: just end it on this. That is what I see 691 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 2: from the left because Barack Obama was all about making 692 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 2: sure we had secure borders. But then they saw an 693 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 2: opening for a message, not for governance, not for policy. 694 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 2: They see openings now for messages. Look, oh, we can 695 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 2: say that he's not a humanitarian, that he doesn't take 696 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 2: care of people. Actually don't agree with an open border, 697 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 2: but they think it's something you can get elected on. 698 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 2: It's the same thing with everything that they're doing right now. 699 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 2: They agree with keeping communities safe. They can't say that 700 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 2: because they think that they can win voters by saying 701 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 2: the opposite. They don't have any idea where they're going. 702 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 2: They're looking for a winning message, they're not looking for 703 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 2: beyond that. It is like the woman who cannot wait 704 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 2: to get to her wedding but doesn't understand that she's 705 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 2: going to end up being married. 706 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 3: That is really, really a good point. And I think 707 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 3: about this all the time because some of these ideas. 708 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 3: Trump throws stuff out there, and if you have a 709 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 3: good idea, and then I marinate on the idea, and 710 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 3: I realized it's actually fantastic idea, like the DC crackdown 711 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 3: on crime, and I was thinking, that sounds good to me. 712 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 3: I lived in DC and I was there from twenty 713 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 3: thirteen to twenty twenty one, and it went from feeling 714 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 3: like the center of the world to a place that 715 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 3: I was excited to leave that it was a bummer. 716 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 3: It was a more crime written places like where I 717 00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 3: lived in and then nearby iconic Georgetown with the cobblestone 718 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 3: streets and just it was just one of the coolest 719 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 3: spots on earth. And then it just kind of every 720 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 3: other store was out of business or boarded up, and 721 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 3: it was just it's just terrible. And he left DC 722 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 3: and around that time, and you must have come back 723 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 3: and thought, what is going on here? 724 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 4: This is horrible, and. 725 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 3: He said, I'm going to do something about it because 726 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 3: I can. And the more I thought about it, the 727 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:20,479 Speaker 3: more I thought it was a great idea. And then 728 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 3: the more I thought it was a great idea, the 729 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 3: more the left would commit themselves to know, this is 730 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 3: a terrible idea. 731 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 4: What We're going to clean up America's capital. 732 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 3: We're going to make it so that tourists can come 733 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 3: here and appreciate our monuments and our museums and the 734 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 3: it's actually a very beautiful city when it's. 735 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 4: It's cleaned up with our architecture. 736 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 3: And people are fighting against that, you're just pro shoplifter 737 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 3: and pro murderer and pro vandal. What is this posture 738 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 3: that the left is just like, yeah, we just were 739 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 3: for vandalism now because Trump is against it. It's so 740 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 3: colossally stupid, and they can't stop themselves, Tutor. That's what's 741 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 3: so wild. They can't help themselves. One time, it's just 742 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 3: Lucy with the football. Every time Charlie Brown goes for 743 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 3: that big kick. That's the modern day Democrat Party. 744 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 4: At the moment. 745 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, Trump exposed them and they cannot figure out 746 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 2: and expose the media. I mean that was also another 747 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 2: genius thing. When he was saying fake news, fake news. 748 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 2: Everybody was like, oh, he's a little aggressive with this, but. 749 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 1: It was fake. 750 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 2: It was fake and he knew it. And you guys 751 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 2: have done such a great job of this. I want 752 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 2: to get to your book really quick. Tell us where 753 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 2: people can find it. It's called breaking the Law. Exposing 754 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 2: the weaponization of America's legal system against Donald Trump. Critical 755 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 2: because like you said, this is him, we know him. 756 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 2: He's big. He could fight it. He was blessed to 757 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:36,719 Speaker 2: be able to fight it. 758 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 1: We can't. 759 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 3: Well, let me give you three reasons why I think 760 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 3: the book is a must read it and the reviews 761 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 3: are coming in really good. 762 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 4: New York Times bestseller, and so thank you. I you 763 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 4: picked it up. 764 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 3: I always appreciate that those accolades make it easier to 765 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 3: pitch it to people, So thank you. But the first 766 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 3: one is you will enjoy reading it. I think it's 767 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 3: a fun read. Pride myself in my books, and I 768 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 3: think this is my best written one yet and it's 769 00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 3: my shortest, So that's an incentive, but the two may 770 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 3: your points for this audience in terms of an activist audience. 771 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 3: First of all, this is a primer for investigation season. 772 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 3: We're already seeing two investigations, one into Jacksmith, one until 773 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 3: Letitia James. These things take time, and I go through 774 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 3: the six cases against Trump methodically, and I think clearly, 775 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 3: where you'll understand the cases, you'll be able to differentiate them. 776 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 3: I know I couldn't fully differentiate them when I took 777 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 3: on the book. That was part of why I was 778 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 3: incentivized to do it. I know some attorneys out there 779 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 3: maybe you can, but it's tough to do for normal people. 780 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 3: And I'm not an attorney, but I consulted with a 781 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 3: lot of them. So I think it's a nice way 782 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 3: to present the material in a way where you'll understand 783 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 3: where these investigations are going and you'll get to enjoy 784 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 3: them a little more when we get good news like 785 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 3: what we've got this this week. But the other one 786 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 3: is a warning and that if we don't get engaged 787 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 3: on a civic level, we've beaten back Hollywood. We're beating 788 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 3: the establishment media, but the left is moved on and 789 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 3: they're using the law fair superstructure to try to destroy MAGA, 790 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 3: and there are some clear reforms we need to make 791 00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 3: and when if you're not in a position where you're 792 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 3: a li and are going to be engaging in the reforms, 793 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 3: we need to be holding our elected leaders to account 794 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,360 Speaker 3: and we need to be highly involved off your elections, 795 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:12,360 Speaker 3: down ticket races. We've got to be focused on this. 796 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 3: We've stayed a wartime footing because they're working. George Soros, 797 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 3: Mark Elias. Some of these people who are familiar to you, 798 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,359 Speaker 3: and many your that are not familiar to you, are 799 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 3: working right now to try to destroy MAGA using the 800 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,799 Speaker 3: lawfare superstructure. And I share with you who those are 801 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 3: and what we can do stop them. 802 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, I cannot agree with you more. Get we get 803 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 2: lazy in the off here and there is no off here. 804 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 2: I always tell people now there's no off here. Stop 805 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,839 Speaker 2: saying that that is not a thing exactly right. 806 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 4: And this I've evolved in this a little bit. I 807 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 4: wanted peacetime after Trump won the first time. 808 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 3: I knew it wasn't going to be, but I wanted it, 809 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 3: and it just wasn't and never again will not even 810 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,760 Speaker 3: cross my mind until we're winning forty plus dates. 811 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 2: I agree, I agree, well, I appreciate it's been a 812 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 2: great conversation. 813 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:54,359 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. 814 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 2: Alex Marlow check him out, check out his podcast, but 815 00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,439 Speaker 2: also always go to Breitbart. That's a trust to place 816 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 2: to get your news. We're so happy you came on today. 817 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 3: Thank you, Peter, and I love to return the favor 818 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:05,360 Speaker 3: of the Albus Marris Show, so just let me know 819 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 3: when you want to come by. 820 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 2: That would be great, awesome, thank you, and thank you 821 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 2: all for joining the Tutor Dixon podcast. As always, head 822 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 2: over to the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you 823 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 2: get your podcasts, and you can watch it on Rumble 824 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 2: or YouTube at Tutor Dixon and join us next time. 825 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 1: Have a blessed day.