1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: Rocking and rolling here in our final programming, just about 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: what a little eighty minutes or so left here on 3 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:09,559 Speaker 1: Radio Row. And to close down this first hour, we 4 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: have a fun guest for you, Thor and Nystrom score 5 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 1: North covers the NFL Draft, the Minnesota Vikings. Outstanding accent 6 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:18,279 Speaker 1: that I think that I think are a lot of 7 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:20,479 Speaker 1: our in insers and steal a nation worldwide are going 8 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: to appreciate Thor, thanks for taking the time. And how's 9 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: how's the combine been for you so far? 10 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 2: It's going great, going great. It's always thanks for having me. 11 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 2: Boys appreciate it. 12 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 3: Yep. So yeah, go ahead, yea. 13 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:34,919 Speaker 4: Real quick though, boy, thanks for having me. Boys, did 14 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 4: you hear the boys there? That's so Minnesota. 15 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 5: I love It's just say Thors from where they filmed Fargo, right, yeah, yeah, 16 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 5: it's awesome. 17 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 3: It really is cool. 18 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 6: So we're gonna both get ask me the same questions. Yeah, 19 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 6: So you know, this year's obviously are in the market 20 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 6: for wide receiver help, and my guess is that they're 21 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 6: probably gonna ad three like they did with defensive line 22 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 6: last year. That would mean probably won in free agency, 23 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 6: two in the draft. And name that comes up because 24 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 6: of you know, Brian Angelicio, the new offensive coordinator. His 25 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 6: ties with the Vikings is Jalen Naylor. So what can 26 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 6: you tell us about Jalen Aylor? Because I think a 27 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 6: lot of people would like to say, hey, listen, maybe 28 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 6: too many moles defeat in Minnesota and maybe this is 29 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:15,759 Speaker 6: a guy with some untapped potential. 30 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 4: I like this one and I like Jalen Naylor. He's 31 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 4: a good player. 32 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 2: You look last year at Jaj McCarthy, the quarterback rating 33 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 2: when he targeted various receivers on the team by far 34 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:25,199 Speaker 2: the highest. 35 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 3: With Jalen Naylor. 36 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 2: It wasn't even jeff Yeah, it was like double with 37 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 2: Naylor in comparison to Justin Jefferson, Like it's wild, you know, 38 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:36,199 Speaker 2: checking that out. They had really good chemistry. But Naylor 39 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 2: has also come on as a player that the more 40 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 2: he could stay healthy. You know that when we were 41 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 2: at his NFL combine, it was the durability with Jalen 42 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 2: Naylor and some of these nagging injuries had some earlier 43 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 2: in his career, but as he stayed healthier, the development 44 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 2: there is turned into a really good player. And to 45 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 2: your point, I don't know if the Vikings kind of 46 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 2: keep Jalen Naylor because you have a lack of resources there. 47 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 2: And I had wondered because of the issues that Jordan 48 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 2: had and the most recent arrested he'd had with the 49 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 2: Vikings cell low on him and then try to prioritize 50 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 2: Jalen Naylor as a free agent signing. 51 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:09,959 Speaker 3: I thought that might be a possibility. 52 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 2: So that was sort of what I was, you know, 53 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 2: you know, thinking maybe I heard here Vikings love Jordan Addison. 54 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 2: They're not going to trade Jordan Addison, and I don't 55 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 2: know that they have the resources to give Jalen Naylor 56 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 2: what he deserves as the wide receiver three. So I 57 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 2: think that opens up the possibility. And I really like 58 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 2: that signing is you know, a non top of the 59 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 2: market kind of a guy, but a really efficient player 60 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 2: that's going to return your value on that money. 61 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 5: So we didn't bring you on to talk Vikings, but 62 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 5: that's very Steel related. But I didn't want to get 63 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 5: one Vikings question and then get in the draft talk 64 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 5: with you. They're going to add another quarterback, right, yeah, 65 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 5: and what direction do you think they go a quarterback 66 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 5: in the offseason. 67 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 2: I think it's going to be like a Geno Smith. Okay, 68 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,679 Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins is another run, or you could go down 69 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 2: to like a Jimmy Garoppolo, but I think it's going 70 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 2: to be something like that. People here have been tossing 71 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 2: out the Anthony Richardson thing. I know the Vikings were 72 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 2: interested in him during his pre draft process, even though 73 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 2: I don't expect the draft compensation and the trade to 74 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 2: be much for Richardson because they already haven't picked up 75 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 2: his fifth year option, so it's just one year for him. 76 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 2: I would be surprised if the Vikings had him as 77 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 2: the quarterback. 78 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 3: I need somebody a little more proven exactly. 79 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 2: If the whole idea is we have to get the 80 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 2: better insurance policy and a playable guy, you know, if 81 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 2: JJ's not ready, or JJ gets hurt again, whatever, I 82 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 2: don't know how you can justify Anthony Richardson with that. 83 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 2: Some people have tossed out with the Vikings. Bring back 84 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 2: Carson Wentz on a one year veteran deal, then trade 85 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 2: for Anthony Richardson. Maybe that three man quarterback room could jive. 86 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 2: But Anthony Richmond counting on him just as your QB 87 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 2: two and then having the two Rock guys kind of 88 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 2: fight it out. 89 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 3: I'm not sure about wrong. Yeah, that could go drastically wrong. 90 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 3: Let's talk some draft with you. 91 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: Of course, I'm sure this won't surprise you, but in 92 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: Steeler Land plenty of conversation about wide receivers. We know 93 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy likes to live with three on the field. 94 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 1: The Steelers currently only have three on the roster, and 95 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: one of them Ben'scroniic Pro Bowl Ben's Keronic Special Teams 96 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: gets upset when you call him a wide receiver because 97 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: he wants to be known as a football player, not 98 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: just a wide receiver. So they clearly have some work 99 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: to do in that position group. There's three big names 100 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: in this class, Tate, Lemon, Tyson. How do you see 101 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: those top three? And do you think there's a chance 102 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:17,919 Speaker 1: any of them are available at twenty one for the Steelers? 103 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 3: Are they your top three? Yes? They are? Yeah, and 104 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 3: in order. 105 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 2: Now this is with a big asterisk on the first guy, 106 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 2: because this is all dependent on his medical checks. You 107 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 2: got Tyson one, I got Tyson one. Okay, you're with 108 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 2: me on that one. I love Jordan Tyson's game. Assuming 109 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 2: that the injuries aren't a concern, but they've always been 110 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 2: a concern, so that's one where your medical team is 111 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 2: going to have to advise you on that. But this 112 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 2: is also the thing that opens up the possibility that 113 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 2: he could filter down the board. Maybe there if some 114 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 2: teams are trepidacious about that, losing out on tie breakers 115 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 2: to a Lemon to a Tait, We'll have to see 116 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 2: about that. But love Jordan Tyson's game again, need to 117 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:55,239 Speaker 2: get clearance on the medicals there. But overall, this receiver 118 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 2: group is deeper than we thought it was going to be, 119 00:04:57,960 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 2: and it's better than we thought it was going to be. 120 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 2: Like this draft class, a lot of the positions disappointed us, 121 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 2: like thinking from the summer till now, like the quarter 122 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 2: quarterback just fell off a shelf, the running bato class fell. 123 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 2: Wide receiver class one of the very few in this draft. 124 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 2: It's better than we thought it was going to be 125 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 2: in the summer and has better depth. So I think 126 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 2: this is a good year to be shopping for wide 127 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 2: receiver in the draft. 128 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 6: In round two? Is it even better in round two? 129 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 6: Maybe better value for your pick. There's guys that I 130 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 6: like there. 131 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 2: Omar Cooper will love to see if he gets there, 132 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 2: because you know, if he's now a first round or 133 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 2: is that going to be six guys. I don't see 134 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 2: Denzel Boston falling over of the first round. Certainly don't 135 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 2: see conception own. But even beyond that, I like Jeremy 136 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 2: Bernard from Alabama inside, outside versatility. He was on the 137 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 2: field at Washington prior to his time at Alabama, you know, 138 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 2: under Kaitlin Debor and that's when they had Roe mcdoonsa. 139 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 4: And Jalen Polk and who's. 140 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 2: A McMillan at McMillan, Yeah, yeah, and was playing above 141 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 2: Boston there. 142 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 4: Jeremy Bernard was on that team a couple of years ago. 143 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. 144 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 2: Ty Simpson kind of had some struggles down the stretch, 145 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,919 Speaker 2: and you wonder how much affected a Jeremy Bernard, But 146 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 2: I like him. Love Chris Brazil the sigh, speed freaking 147 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 2: this class six five. He's gonna run in the four fours. 148 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 2: Some people even think maybe high four to threes. We'll 149 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 2: see on that. Also, love Malachi Fields, yep. Really like 150 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 2: Ted Hurst from Georgia State. You guys looking for a sleeper. 151 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's an interesting conversation. 152 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 2: He's going to test a lot better than people think. 153 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 2: It's a long leverage six foot three to two hundred 154 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,359 Speaker 2: plus pounder and a better athlete than people think. So 155 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 2: I think on Saturday, ted Hurst is gonna gonna open 156 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 2: some eyes. 157 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 3: Could he be around two? Round three? 158 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 2: And I think round three I think is more realistic. 159 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 2: But if he if he blows the roof off the 160 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 2: build in tomorrow, I think that's where maybe back half 161 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 2: around two could he could have access to that? 162 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 3: Interesting? Where else do you see value in this draft? 163 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 3: What other positions? 164 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 4: Linebacker? It's a really really good line. 165 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 6: We're talking about inside inside linebackers. 166 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's a really really good class, really deep. 167 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 2: I mean yesterday, of course the top guys stole the show. Yeah, 168 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:58,919 Speaker 2: it's sunny styles in particular, but the depth of that 169 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 2: class is really good. Guy like Jacob Rodriguez, he was 170 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 2: being projected as a third rounder coming in here, even 171 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 2: though he finished fifth in the Heisman. It's like, oh, 172 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 2: he has measurable concerns. Well, it turns out he's a 173 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 2: stud athlete, right, and he was doing awesome. 174 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: Just he just skill his hands on the football all 175 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: the time. 176 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 4: So instinctive. 177 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 2: But but again, like also with the good athleticism, and 178 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 2: then you wonder after the fact, should there ever been 179 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 2: a question of that with the guy that came into 180 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 2: college as a four star duel threat quarterback. That's what 181 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 2: Jacob Rodriguez started. So it's always been a guy. It's 182 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 2: a you know, a good athlete, you know, as it 183 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 2: turns out, but just another thing that's helping out sort 184 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 2: of that position group. Another one that people don't talk 185 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 2: about as much, but I like it is interior offensive line, 186 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 2: but in particular center. When you consider all the guys 187 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 2: from other positions that are have already proven they can 188 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 2: play center or attempting to do it this process. But 189 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 2: you had Brian Parker, the third from Duke, their right tackle, 190 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 2: came into college as a center. He is going to 191 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 2: convert back to center in the NFL. Graham Barton two 192 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 2: point oh, Graham Barton two point zero, Trey zuone, you 193 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 2: know his similarities at grey z a ball, you know, 194 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 2: kicking inside there on Rutledge from Georgia Tech at guard. 195 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 2: But he's been practicing as a center all process. Even 196 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 2: Jennings Dunker from Iowa. He is trying to prove this 197 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 2: process that he maybe could be an option at center. 198 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 2: And then you add that realize that Okay, Yeah, so 199 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 2: a lot of guys getting added there, and then you 200 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,119 Speaker 2: know just the pure centers, you know, the Connor Lowse, 201 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 2: the Logan Jones is like, the center class wasn't terrible, 202 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 2: just the true centers, but you start adding in all 203 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 2: those other guys. I think this is a better center 204 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 2: class than it's been giving credit for it. 205 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 6: And I think for the students would be more that 206 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 6: high bred guy that they would be looking at. 207 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:33,559 Speaker 3: They're not clearly looking for a pure center. 208 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 6: But if you could find a guy in the middle 209 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 6: rounds that could be a potential starting guard but also 210 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 6: give you depth to center, even be a quality swing man, 211 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 6: that might be something to do with. 212 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 2: I think Kelon Rutledge might be a name for you, 213 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 2: guys round three from Georgia Tech. A really good attitude 214 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 2: on that kid, really good athlete, and he has that 215 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 2: versatility and was just great at Georgia Tech and at 216 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 2: the Senior Bowl. So that might be a guy guy 217 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 2: that we know can play guard but also has looked 218 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 2: good in center at the Senior Bowl. 219 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,599 Speaker 1: Ly, uh, so weird year in terms of the tackle conversation, 220 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: because so typically it feels like you have the top 221 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 1: couple guys who go in the top ten eleven, twelve, 222 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 1: and then you don't see a run on any more 223 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 1: tackles until day two this year like the exception to 224 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: the rule where it feels like, yeah, Mauigoa fanu early. 225 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: But then you could have some mid some guys in 226 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: the teams, some guys in the twenties Super Bowl contending 227 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 1: AFC NFC Championship teams who could get tackles at the 228 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 1: end of the first round that we very rarely see. 229 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: Do you have of that group of the the Procters 230 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: and and all these and all these other tackles ian 231 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: at sure from Arizona State, anyone that stands out to you. 232 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 2: I like Minroe Freeling from your Yeah, he's starting to 233 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 2: get a lot of busts. 234 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. 235 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 2: Just an insane athlete and both of his parents were athletes. 236 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 2: The on field the on field athleticism metrics with Minroe 237 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 2: Freeling last year ninety nine point eighth percentile on field 238 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 2: athlete with with the in game athleticism, with the GPS 239 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 2: on that. Just an amazing athne in, an ascending talent. 240 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 2: He is not a finished product yet, but could be 241 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 2: a guy late first round there and then I also 242 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 2: I have to say that I like that Ianader kid 243 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 2: from Arizona State as well. 244 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 4: He's new to the sport. 245 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 2: He plays me and he plays like a bully, and 246 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 2: he also is a good pass protector. Usually the guys 247 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 2: that are newer to the sport, the footwork out there 248 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 2: and the technique, as you know, you can get a 249 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 2: little cross legged, you know, on the counter moves and 250 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 2: stuff like that. And this guy is a lot smoother 251 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 2: than I was expecting watching his tape as the pass 252 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 2: pro guy. 253 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 4: But I also like him coming forward. 254 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:31,719 Speaker 5: I don't know that the Steelers will go round one 255 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 5: and it o line, but he's the one. I'd love 256 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 5: to put it left guard this year and then left 257 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 5: tackle next year. 258 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 2: I think that could work, yeah, because I think his 259 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 2: game absolutely translates to the inside. But whereas some people 260 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 2: are maybe heading into the process, you think that's how 261 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 2: they're sort of seeing him. 262 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 4: I absolutely think that guy's attacking attack. Yeah, the next 263 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:50,839 Speaker 4: left tackle, I think he absolutely could play that. 264 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yeah, just because of the pass pro with 265 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 2: that athleticism, I trust him on the boundary. So that's 266 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,439 Speaker 2: a guy absolutely, and with Matt's idea, bring him into 267 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 2: the building for you're getting get a seasons under them. Yeah, 268 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 2: and then right, maybe make an easier transition there. 269 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 6: I think one of the other things that you you 270 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 6: just mentioned I want to ask you about that this GPS. 271 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 6: Uh So, look, there's a lot of people and and 272 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 6: are our good buddy Mike Persuda, who was on earlier 273 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 6: with this, says, look, uh and people have called this 274 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 6: the underwear Olympics, right, you know, disparagingly. 275 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 3: We all know this has value. 276 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 6: But it would seem to me that that athleticism you're 277 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 6: talking about when you're wearing pads would be a really 278 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 6: interesting This is the first I've heard of it. I mean, 279 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 6: it's just widely used around the NFL, this this athleticism 280 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 6: with pads on things. 281 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 3: More and more. 282 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 2: The one team that was the first one to do 283 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 2: it is the Rams that were putting as much or 284 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 2: more weight in the in game athleticism against the combine testing. 285 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 3: And if they haven't drafted, well what do they do? Yeah? 286 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, a couple of years later, if they had that 287 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:55,959 Speaker 2: one draft where they didn't have a first round pick 288 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 2: and I don't think they had a top fifty pick, 289 00:11:57,520 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 2: and they. 290 00:11:57,840 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 4: Just destroyed that everybody that was Nakua. 291 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was just one guy after another, and they 292 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 2: they're always grabbing guys were then on the telecast, it's 293 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 2: like that guy doesn't have good measurables. 294 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 3: But he's a really good player. 295 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 2: But a lot of times their in game athleticism is 296 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 2: better than their. 297 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 3: First i've heard of. This is fascinating. 298 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 5: So even like the Senior Bowl that they're putting it 299 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 5: up on the scoreboard. Now it's becoming real public knowledge. 300 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, and in the rams they they skipped the combine. 301 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 2: Now now they're the most I don't know if you'd 302 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 2: want to use the word obnoxious franchise with like we don't. 303 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, professional game. 304 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 2: They win a lot of games, and and they think 305 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 2: there's also you know, like someone like me, I think 306 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 2: there's no such thing as bad data. 307 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 4: I want to accrue as much as possible. That organization. 308 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 2: They they they're choosy with their data, and there is 309 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 2: some data that some of us would consider that they 310 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 2: would omit. But you know, they care, like I said, 311 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 2: care a lot more about the in game athleticism and 312 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 2: their opinion of your tape than they do of your 313 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 2: testing scores. Here now Jacksonville is adopted that too. Of course, 314 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 2: the GM coming from Los Angeles, so that's becoming more ubiquitous, 315 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 2: less of a presence of a team at the combine, 316 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 2: but more getting into your your in game athleticism scores. 317 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 3: Well, we got trepidacious, right right, tremendous. 318 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 5: Do you have a Day two nose tackle that has 319 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 5: at least a little bit of pass rush not just. 320 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 3: I want to know the answer to this one. Yeah, 321 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:29,839 Speaker 3: so a little bit of pass rush? Uh? Okay, yes? 322 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 2: And this guy now I know is going to go 323 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 2: on Day two after yesterday because he did not test well. 324 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 2: So this is not a popular name to bring up 325 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 2: right now, big citrus. I was gonna say Lee Hunter 326 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 2: from Texas Tech, ok, because you know, I love he 327 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 2: had gotten that steam like leading up to this event 328 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:48,719 Speaker 2: of you know, people like I think Lee Hunter is 329 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 2: a first rounder now, but he had like a twenty 330 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 2: fifth percentile size adjusted testing day yesterday. 331 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 4: He barely got off the carpet in the vertical and. 332 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 2: Stuff like this. This is one where it's like I 333 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 2: don't care. This is a three hundred and thirty pounder, 334 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 2: was super light feet. I've seen him knife into the 335 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 2: backfield over and over and over again. That his athleticism 336 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:08,959 Speaker 2: scores for some guy, you know, and this goes back 337 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 2: to the in game athleticism. For for some guys you 338 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 2: care about it. For other guys, you have the confirmation 339 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 2: from the tape and how well they move around on 340 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:17,719 Speaker 2: the field and and that that supports their game and 341 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 2: they're they're really good with that. 342 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 4: That that's my opinion of Lee Hunter. 343 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 3: So I I he falls into the fifties. Signed me up. 344 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 3: That's yeah, And. 345 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 2: It's a possibility now with how poorly he tested. I'm 346 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 2: curious about the advice that Lee Hunter got because in hindsight, 347 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 2: he just shouldn't have tested this pre durg Ro just 348 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 2: stood on it. 349 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, by the way, and I'm glad you brought that up. 350 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 3: About is football. 351 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 6: We were talking about using the word fluidity earlier today, like, look, 352 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 6: I know plenty of guys that could jump that I 353 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 6: wouldn't consider great athletes. And I know guys that are 354 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 6: fluid who can't jump one, and I would call him 355 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 6: great athletes. 356 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was. 357 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 2: I was talking with Corey Yates, the CEO of Real 358 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 2: Analytics earlier, I had him on and he was I 359 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 2: asked him for like his biggest sleeper wide receiver, you know, 360 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 2: and that's at the combine and he brought up up 361 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 2: that kid from Incarnate Word, Jalen Walfall. I believe it 362 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 2: is his name, but he was talking about with his 363 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 2: metrics on him, they don't expect him to run well, 364 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 2: they were thinking four five seven, four five eight, But 365 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 2: his metrics Walthall's were really good with separation and then 366 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 2: the transition from receiver to runner, the fluidity thing that 367 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 2: you're talking about, and things that we can't test for here, right, 368 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 2: and and so that's the stuff that he excels at. 369 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 2: It's probably not someone who's gonna excel at the test thing, 370 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 2: but a huge production profile at a subdivision level, but 371 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 2: huge production profile and then some of those things that 372 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 2: we can't test for but contribute to your athleticism on 373 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 2: the field, he is really good at. 374 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 3: That's that receiver you're taking the fifth round. There's a slip. 375 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: We got like a minute left here. But any quarterback 376 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: other than Mendoza that you'd be interested in? 377 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 4: Cole Peyton from Cole Peyton, Yeah, well like that Woods, 378 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 4: I do like that. 379 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just a couple hours away, so I got 380 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 2: to watch him a lot live and stuff like that. 381 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 2: But six foot three, two hundred and thirty pounds. He's 382 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 2: gonna run in the four. Five's dual threat left hander. 383 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 2: He is an experienced, yes, but this guy has the 384 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 2: exact same physical packages Tim Tebow. He is what we 385 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 2: wanted Tim Tebow to be. Cole Payton can actually throw 386 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 2: down the field. He has really good touch in particular downfield. 387 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 2: He has kind of sort of like Tebow as well, 388 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 2: kind of a wind Millie type. 389 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 4: You know, they got weird wind ups. 390 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, and so that's we're gonna have to work on 391 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 2: that a little bit. We got to get the ball 392 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 2: out a little bit quicker. He's got to play, you know, 393 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 2: the timing stuff, because it was over three seconds to 394 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 2: throw his average time at endsue a little bit of 395 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 2: a different system. And also in the FCS level, he 396 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 2: could wait it out because he's six foot three, two 397 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 2: hundred and thirty pounds. Danger on the door stuff I 398 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 2: can get out of it. Some of that stuff we're 399 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 2: gonna have to teach him the NFL game, But all 400 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 2: the physical tools that they're in a very bad quarterback class. 401 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 4: So I think that kid could rise real quick. Maybe 402 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 4: he hangs out Aaron Rodgers for a year. 403 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 3: I like that. Yeah, why yeah? Why not? 404 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: I like that Thorney strom Score North kind enough to 405 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: lend us some of his time here on radio. 406 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 3: Real great stuff. 407 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 4: Thank you, appreciate you boys. Goho Steelers, no ghost Stellars.