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Speaker 1: Fish Stripes Unfiltered, Episode thirty eight on The Fish on

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Speaker 1: First Podcast Network. My name is Kevin Barrell, and today

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Speaker 1: we are here with the usuals. We are here with

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Speaker 1: Isaac Zuit, my co host, and Elis Huskin, the managing

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Speaker 1: editor of Fish Stripes. Isaac, what's up? First week of

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Speaker 1: the season over. There's some stuff to get into, so

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Speaker 1: that's why we're here today and kind of the preview

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Speaker 1: what's next because schedule doesn't get much easier after this

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Speaker 1: trip and Queens for.

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Speaker 2: The Marlins, Yeah, seven games in and you know, before

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Speaker 2: the season, you told me that they would have once

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Speaker 2: three of those first seven against the New York Mets

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Speaker 2: and the Minnesota Twins, I would be, you know, pretty happy.

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Speaker 2: So you gotta be, you know, a little bit relieved

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Speaker 2: that they did come out of their one game out

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Speaker 2: of five hundred under five hundred. And yeah, the New

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Speaker 2: York Series were recording this on April sixth. The game

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Speaker 2: was postponed today, so the Met series will begin tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Another tough series Formindy, like you mentioned, so it should

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Speaker 2: be should be a fun weekend for sure.

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Speaker 1: Eli. How we're doing.

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Speaker 3: I'm doing good to Kevin, Thank you for asking me

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Speaker 3: thank you for having me on again. I never ceased

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Speaker 3: to be amazed by the rollercoaster that is the major

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Speaker 3: league season. Well after that one and four start, all

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Speaker 3: the comments I saw in crises, thinking about the whole

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Speaker 3: direction of the franchise, thinking the absolute worst, about blowing

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Speaker 3: this up, about starting all over. And then when you

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Speaker 3: have Sandy and you have Lizardo pitching on back to

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Speaker 3: back days, that changes quite a bit, doesn't it. So

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Speaker 3: then the tone shifted pretty dramatically in those two days.

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Speaker 4: Such a long season.

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Speaker 3: We are one full week into this whole thing, but

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Speaker 3: I think this is preferable to what we've seen in

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Speaker 3: recent years. The team falls out of contention and there

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Speaker 3: is no fluctuations. That's the worst part this is, this

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Speaker 3: is kind of what we go through the whole offseason for,

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Speaker 3: is to reach this point where every single game means

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Speaker 3: something for the Marlins.

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Speaker 1: YEP, and as always, subscribe on YouTube, follow us on

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Speaker 1: the podcast network called now Fish on first so if

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Speaker 1: you were subscribed before, you're still subscribed, and all right,

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Speaker 1: let's get right too. I think the first I mean,

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Speaker 1: as Isaac mentioned, playing two tough teams Mets and the

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Speaker 1: Twins will go into I guess each series very very quickly.

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Speaker 1: Not much to touch up on except maybe some Sandy

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Speaker 1: stuff and Lozardo. Obviously, we should talk about Solari's hot start,

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Speaker 1: all right the Mets. Miami lost three out of the

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Speaker 1: four games against the Mets, winning that Friday game or

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Speaker 1: Hoy Solar hit a homer, Jazz hit a homer. Lozardo

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Speaker 1: looked really good besides some control issues. Isaac, just your

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Speaker 1: thoughts on that Mets series. I think you went to

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Speaker 1: what you went to most games.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I covered Thursday, the opener, and that was a

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Speaker 2: tough one for Sandy. It was a tough series. The

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Speaker 2: thing that set out, obviously, I think we've, you know,

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Speaker 2: be sustainable for a winning team. But you know, it's

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Speaker 2: great to see Sandy come back through a complete game shutout.

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Speaker 2: It's gad to see Luzardo have one of the better

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Speaker 2: handled themselves pretty well like it's a very very very

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Speaker 2: But did they need every single run they got? I

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Speaker 2: So it was it was a very fun win that one,

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Speaker 2: tough series, but you know, it could have been worse

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Speaker 1: And I guess if you just continue to spread on

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Speaker 1: the positives, Miami's offense does get on base. We saw

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Speaker 1: How Miami. You know, this whole offseason built on let's

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Speaker 1: pretty really good so far. Three homers, he's gotten a

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Speaker 3: You touched on the runners in scoring position thing. As

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Speaker 3: of this recording, they they're hitting one eighty six with

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Speaker 3: And in those situations where a productive out is extremely valuable.

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Speaker 4: They have very rarely even been doing that.

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Speaker 5: What too from Senga and the back goes flying, Gorriel

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Speaker 3: It is such a perplexing difference from what we thought

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Speaker 3: It was a very bad offensive home stand for the scene.

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Speaker 3: They did just enough to get it done. They were,

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Speaker 3: as you mentioned, in the final game, almost single hindedly

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Speaker 3: He drove in four of those runs on his home runs,

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Speaker 3: That's no doubt very important development. It's hard to come

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Speaker 3: the question the new hitting philosophy that was in place,

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Speaker 3: That's a lot different, and it was supposed to be

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Speaker 3: Over a larger sample, you think that this stuff would

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Speaker 3: This is what's held them back to this point is

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Speaker 3: it brings the question, you know, exactly what messaging they're

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Speaker 3: amazing quality of pitching during that first home stand they

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Speaker 4: Bullpen during those close games. The Twins.

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Speaker 3: They have a relatively deep pitching staff, but not a

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Speaker 2: That's what going on. You hope, you hope that things

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Speaker 2: give you a little hope for optimism as we get

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Speaker 1: YEP. So the next I guess, big point we got

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Speaker 1: We saw one. We saw two versions of sand Contra.

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Speaker 1: We saw Sanduel Contra very early season Sandy against the

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Speaker 1: out of his hands. There's no other way to say it.

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Speaker 1: He really struggled. And then we saw the game against

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Speaker 1: he or five. I'm sorry. He looked good. Sanuel Contra

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Speaker 1: looked like himself, And I guess that's where I want

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Speaker 1: to get to, Isaac. Do you think after seeing that

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Speaker 1: and I put this out on Twitter. I don't think

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Speaker 1: he will replicate twenty twenty two, but I think he'll

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Speaker 1: do just enough in twenty twenty three. You still have

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Speaker 5: Round ball up the middle, Berdie's got it, steps on

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Speaker 2: Oh, I just haven't seen as many difficult or non

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Speaker 2: see you, you know, when it becomes late in the

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Speaker 2: game and he's got to make the right throw, he's

435
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Speaker 2: got to hit the cutoff man, he's got to throw

436
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Speaker 2: the right base. I think that's when we'll be able

437
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Speaker 2: to judge it a little bit better. But so far

438
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Speaker 2: he's made all the routine plays. He's gotten to balls.

439
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Speaker 2: I will say in the Lozardo start, when Schagua surrendered

440
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Speaker 2: the line drive to Alonzo with the bases loaded in

441
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Speaker 2: the sixth and when the way he caught that ball,

442
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Speaker 2: my heart, yeah, I was that is not a center

443
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Speaker 2: field they're catching that ball. But the name he caught

444
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Speaker 2: it no screw. And yeah, so far you got to

445
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Speaker 2: be happy with the way he handled centerfield. And I

446
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Speaker 2: don't know if you can attribute learning a new position

447
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Speaker 2: to some of his early offensive struggles. It was great

448
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Speaker 2: to see him get a hit against Paublo yesterday. I

449
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 2: know he left the game earlier left the game early.

450
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Speaker 2: I know we'll talk about that later, I'm sure, but yeah,

451
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Speaker 2: he has struggled a little bit offensively, but I think

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Speaker 2: he's I think he's gonna be just just dandy.

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Speaker 1: And the only two other players I want to talk

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Speaker 1: about when it comes to defense, Garrett Cooper. He's looked

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Speaker 1: pretty good man, and I have to give him the

456
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Speaker 1: shout out because he deserves it. Makes a very nice

457
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Speaker 1: play in this twin series, makes a couple against the Mets.

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Speaker 1: He's look good, Eli, What are your thoughts.

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Speaker 3: I would say, yeah, I'd say that the very first

460
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Speaker 3: game that he had those multiple defensive plays, that was

461
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Speaker 3: the most memorable defensive game I can remember seeing from him.

462
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Speaker 3: It's very important. We've noted that he is a pending

463
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Speaker 3: free agent. Finally, he is all the motivation he needs

464
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Speaker 3: to perform really well at all aspects of the game.

465
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Speaker 3: So whether he stays with Marlins beyond this year or

466
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Speaker 3: another team, to show that he can be a durability

467
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 3: is most important thing. Aside from that when he's on

468
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Speaker 3: the field, to be a multi dimensional player inside of

469
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Speaker 3: just a line drive hitter as he was last year.

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Speaker 3: He was by anyway, you sliced. It was a very

471
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Speaker 3: strong sheries for him against the Mets. It is a

472
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Speaker 3: quiet series for him against the Twins. I've liked to

473
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Speaker 3: see that he is clearly the getting the lion's share

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Speaker 3: of playing time at first base. I was worried, you know,

475
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Speaker 3: I'm a little skeptical about Yuli and what he's going

476
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Speaker 3: to be and based on what they both did just

477
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Speaker 3: this past year and even going past larger samples, and

478
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Speaker 3: then Cooper is the one that deserves to be playing

479
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Speaker 3: close to every day, just resting him within reasons to

480
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Speaker 3: make sure that he's fresh. And the big question the

481
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Speaker 3: defense is nice, There's only so much value could add

482
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Speaker 3: defensively at the first base. The big question for Cooper

483
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Speaker 3: moving forward is going to be how much over the

484
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Speaker 3: fence power is There Surprisingly a little slugging from him

485
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Speaker 3: last year, and it is important to get that from

486
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Speaker 3: the first base position. So that's going to be the

487
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Speaker 3: main thing that I'm looking for is how often he

488
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Speaker 3: taps into that game power. He spoke in spring training

489
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Speaker 3: about how that was a priority for him. He recognized

490
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Speaker 3: that he was important for him to do more in

491
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Speaker 3: that regard moving forward, for him to.

492
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Speaker 4: Be an all star again.

493
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Speaker 3: I think he's going to have to put up better

494
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Speaker 3: slugging numbers than he did during the first half of

495
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Speaker 3: last season. And yeah, that's gonna be really important because

496
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Speaker 3: right now Joegees Soilaire is doing a lot of the

497
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Speaker 3: heavy lifting. When it comes to that home run department,

498
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Speaker 3: nobody else on this team has more than one yet

499
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Speaker 3: Cooper had that one very early and then since then,

500
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Speaker 3: as I said, it's been very quiet from him.

501
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Speaker 1: So there is the only multi homer guy.

502
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Speaker 2: Yes, Solaire has three and has three.

503
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Speaker 1: I thought someone had too. Okay, well, I mean, I

504
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Speaker 1: don't know if you want to add anything to that, Isaac.

505
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Speaker 2: Oh, Yeah, it's funny how leiguby we're all held bent

506
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Speaker 2: on losing leywin the as defensively and obviously Garrek Cooper

507
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 2: is the furthest thing from Leyland, and Cooper's look fantastic.

508
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 2: Has made multiple plays to his left, Yeah, to his left,

509
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,879
Speaker 2: you know, raw extra bases in the Mets, in the

510
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,360
Speaker 2: Mets series, and it was funny like the one guy,

511
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 2: the one guy first Ace who did make an era

512
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 2: was a sure fire glove Yuliue Gariel, who sort of

513
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,359
Speaker 2: messed up on one of those double play balls in

514
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Speaker 2: Trevor Rodgers start. So yeah, you gotta definitely be happy

515
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Speaker 2: with Cooper. We had a really touch yerars against Minnesota. Uh,

516
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Speaker 2: you look for him to bounce back in Queens this weekend. Tho.

517
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Speaker 1: Yep, And I think that we want to talk to

518
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Speaker 1: some Hayes wizard. I mean we saw his first two starts.

519
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Speaker 1: The first one just I would say he was good,

520
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 1: but the control wasn't there. He wasn't hitting a spots.

521
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Speaker 1: I mean he walked. He walked four at the end

522
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Speaker 1: of the day, but I mean still got the win,

523
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Speaker 1: still held the Mets, was to one run through his outing.

524
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Speaker 1: So he looked good, there's another way to say it.

525
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,920
Speaker 1: And then we look at his start yesterday. We're recording

526
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Speaker 1: this once again on third that he started on Wednesday.

527
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:05,159
Speaker 1: He looked excellent. There's just no other way to say it.

528
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Speaker 1: Struck out ten, went deep into the game, he was

529
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Speaker 1: good and only allowed one walk. Isaac. Just your thoughts

530
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Speaker 1: on Lozardo, And you know I mentioned this guy could

531
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Speaker 1: be I think a SIAM candidate, and I'm pretty high

532
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,159
Speaker 1: on Lozardo for what he could do this season and

533
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Speaker 1: what he has already done. It's already proved. He's proven

534
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:26,640
Speaker 1: me right, and it's proven many of us here right

535
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Speaker 1: who expected Lozardo to put himself on the board as

536
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Speaker 1: a possible SAIAM candidate.

537
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Speaker 2: If there was an award for most delisious player in

538
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,919
Speaker 2: the first seven games, it would Be'sardo. It was his

539
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 2: ability to accumulate the swinging mists and the most impressive

540
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 2: party in last night's and you know his ten strikeerp performance.

541
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Speaker 2: Was that his pitch count well, you know, allowed him

542
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Speaker 2: to get into the seventh inning, something he doesn't he

543
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,679
Speaker 2: hasn't been able to do too often. He's done it before,

544
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Speaker 2: but he went through seven. He had one hundred pitches.

545
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Speaker 2: Was it one hundred flat I believe or was that

546
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Speaker 2: Sandy's I don't know exactly.

547
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Speaker 1: Bundy's was one hundred flat. I know that.

548
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Speaker 2: No, Yeah, Sandy's one hundred flat. And Lazar was just

549
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:02,880
Speaker 2: he was able to keep his pitch kind of low,

550
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 2: get a pitch to contact when he needed to. He

551
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 2: was striking out Byron Bucks in a couple of times.

552
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 2: He was just locating his fastball perfectly, and he was

553
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,880
Speaker 2: using the change of phenomenally to get Korea a couple

554
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,640
Speaker 2: of times. It was just fantastic pitching, but his Aluzara,

555
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 2: he is one of the most fun guys to watch

556
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:18,679
Speaker 2: an alim major League baseball, and he takes them out

557
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 2: for sure. So wow, if he can, you know, sort

558
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 2: of be this type of picture, the type of pitcher

559
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 2: that was the number you know two ranked prospects in

560
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:27,640
Speaker 2: all the Major League Baseball when he was with Oakland.

561
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 2: Put him right behind Sandy Righty left the combination one two. Wow,

562
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 2: you have a pretty lethal top end of the rotation

563
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 2: for Miami. And they're all young, they're all controllable, and

564
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 2: you know, mine's in a good spot. You know, that's

565
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 2: something we should give Kimming a little credit for. She

566
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,120
Speaker 2: he was struggling in the big leagues at the time

567
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 2: of the trade, and you know she was confident that

568
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 2: mel and the Marlins could bring out the best of

569
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:50,640
Speaker 2: it in him. And he so far, so good.

570
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Speaker 1: Oh in ninety nine, pitch Isaac pitch.

571
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Speaker 2: I knew it was close to one hundred one, So yeah,

572
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Speaker 2: look at that. He could have, you know, even gone

573
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Speaker 2: the eighth if they needed him to something really on

574
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 2: the right. So that's something, you know, you gotta appreciate

575
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 2: with someone like him who sort of gets his pitch

576
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 2: on high because he's such a strikeout pitcher. That's what's

577
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 2: so special about Sandy, because he can be a strikeout

578
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 2: pitcher and keep his pitchcint low wizardo. He's showing flashes

579
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 2: of that as well.

580
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 1: And something that Eli mentioned on the stream is Lozardo's villa.

581
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 1: He was hitting ninety six ninety seven and at a

582
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Speaker 1: very consistent rate on his fastball, on his sinker a

583
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: couple of ninety five so and most of his strikeouts

584
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 1: were produced obviously with this slider, which is just lethal

585
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,919
Speaker 1: in today's game for him. And he had twenty swings

586
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 1: and misses compared to Pablo's fifteen. So we're just seeing

587
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 1: a basic, really a different Lozardo and how how's improved.

588
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 1: And you know, health always is the key for him.

589
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 1: He missed a lot of last season with the was

590
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: it an elbow.

591
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 4: Or arms string? Arm related to elbow thing?

592
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so he missed a good chunk And you know,

593
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 1: if we could get this Lozardo for you know, a

594
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 1: full season kind of like we saw Pablo last year,

595
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: for a full season. Man discussing, I'm gonna use the

596
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 1: Carver's term here about the sky's the limit for Hazelo's Wizardo, so.

597
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 3: I think the limit is higher than with Pablo. To

598
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 3: be frank like, this offseason, I didn't want them to

599
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 3: trade Pablo. I think ideally it would have dipped even

600
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 3: lower on the pecking order, but I felt it was

601
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Speaker 3: imperative to keep Lozardo more so than any of the

602
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 3: other non Sandy starters.

603
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 4: Because of this.

604
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 3: He is even better this year than last year. Such

605
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 3: a complete pitcher at this point, and so you need

606
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 3: to touch on how in this first outing there was

607
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 3: a little bit of control issues towards the end, but honestly,

608
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 3: I thought for most of that outing he was just

609
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 3: as good as this one, with very few exceptions. He

610
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 3: has been close to perfect so far on this young season,

611
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 3: with the death of his pitch mix with the quality,

612
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 3: but the velocity that he has.

613
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Speaker 4: The improvement of that change up.

614
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Speaker 3: And one thing that I noticed in this previous start

615
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 3: is that he really has focused when it comes to

616
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 3: throwing in his fast well, he's focusing more so on

617
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 3: the four seamer instead of the sinker. There's times last

618
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 3: year when he was basically alternating one of the same,

619
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Speaker 3: but he recognizes seems to recognize now that the four

620
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 3: seemer is the better pitch of the two, and what

621
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 3: we saw in this last outing is throwing it up

622
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 3: in the zone and nobody has a chance against it,

623
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Speaker 3: not lefties, not right he is when he throws it

624
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 3: up in the zone, and when he pairs it with

625
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 3: that change of that he has, he's getting swings.

626
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Speaker 4: And this is on everything. That's what stands out.

627
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 3: That's what you don't get, frankly with anybody else in

628
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 3: this rotation, is that he gets whiffs on the change

629
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Speaker 3: up and the fort seemer and the slider. Of course,

630
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 3: the slider more so than anything else, that raises the

631
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 3: ceiling of a pitcher. That makes you not so worried

632
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 3: about the defense behind him. For this particular team, I

633
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 3: think everybody understandable is still a little nervous about exactly

634
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 3: how this defense is going to handle over the course

635
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 3: of the season, with everybody playing the positions that they're playing.

636
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 3: With Lizardo, we have less worried about that than anybody

637
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 3: else on the mountain.

638
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 4: So I feel he is.

639
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 3: Such a great fit for the team at this time.

640
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 3: I think even before the season started, there was understandably

641
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 3: curiosity about whether he would be a contract extension candidate,

642
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 3: And the good news and the bad news is that

643
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 3: if he keeps on this pace this year and is

644
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,959
Speaker 3: mostly healthy, then the price to keep him around longer

645
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 3: than his remaining years of club control as they are,

646
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 3: it's going to skyrocket. He's going to command a contract

647
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 3: that's a lot bigger than the one they got Sandy

648
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 3: for a couple of years ago. But the good problem

649
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 3: is that if he performs the way that he does

650
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 3: perform this year, he's going to be an All Star.

651
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 3: That was my expectation for him even coming into this season,

652
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 3: and he is going to keep them competitive. And that's

653
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 3: kind of the formula of getting this team to be

654
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 3: significantly better than any of the full season teams that

655
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 3: we've seen in recent memory is having a one to

656
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 3: two punch at the top of this rotation with Sandy

657
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 3: and Lozardo that this organization has.

658
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 4: Not had in a very very long time.

659
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 3: To have two guys at the top of the rotation

660
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 3: that could be this terrific in most of their outings,

661
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 3: it would.

662
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 1: Look really bad with the Lozardo contract the bigger than Sandy's,

663
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 1: But yeah, you're right. I mean, at his age, the

664
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 1: amount of years of RB left. How good he's been.

665
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: I mean, if Sandy would have waited just one more year,

666
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 1: maybe he would if he would have definitely skyrocketed over

667
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 1: the he'd have gone over one hundred mili is what

668
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 1: I've always said in Lozardo. I think he'll get around.

669
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 1: Maybe he'll get more than Sandy, but you know, around

670
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 1: maybe seventy sixty. That's I think a good number. And

671
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 1: I think final touch up I want to do on

672
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 1: this homestands Luisa Rise. Luisa Rise was really good against

673
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 1: the Mets, and he was good against the Twins. I

674
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: know he had a day off in that final game,

675
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 1: came in struck out, which something he doesn't do as often.

676
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: But not only did he look good offensively, he made

677
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: some nice plays on defense. I mean we really doubted

678
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 1: him defensively and started the season thinking he wouldn't be

679
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: as good as you know, he wouldn't be good defensively,

680
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 1: he wouldn't be solid or consistent. He's done. He's proved

681
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 1: everyone wrong, as you know Throe the first seven games

682
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: of the season, Isaac, Yeah, he.

683
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 2: Has looked like a natural second baseman as Marlin so far.

684
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 2: He really has surprised me. I wasn't too familiar with

685
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 2: you know, his history defensively in Minnesota, but you know

686
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 2: all the you know analytics, and the report said that

687
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 2: he was slightly below average or maybe slightly above some years.

688
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 2: But he's looked fantastic and with the bat just as advertised,

689
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 2: even better than advertise. He's only struck out three times,

690
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 2: and you know he doesn't with and he doesn't chase,

691
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 2: and when he does chase, he puts the ball at play.

692
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 2: He's just been phenomenal. Even he's hit a couple of

693
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 2: you base hits, he's just been plotched. You know, I

694
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 2: didn't know. I know he came in to pinch it

695
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 2: and he did strike out against that tough lefty. But boy, wow,

696
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 2: what a brother fresh area for this team to have

697
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 2: someone like him. They've never had someone like him, you know,

698
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 2: at least since the rebuild began. They've never had a

699
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 2: looser rise that who you knows an hit three hundred,

700
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 2: you know, you know he's gonna hit in the HG

701
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 2: two hundreds or three hundreds, and he's just gonna put

702
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 2: up a grade up bat. He knows what he's doing.

703
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 2: He's a hitter. If there is a definite, you know,

704
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 2: there's a picture of a pure hitter, it'd be him,

705
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 2: So it's really nice to see him. Obviously had to

706
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 2: give a Pablo and Jose Salas, but wow, I think

707
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 2: this was a great get for Kim Ng and he's

708
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,760
Speaker 2: controllable as well, and we're speaking of contract extension candidates

709
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:30,879
Speaker 2: he's won as well.

710
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 1: He one hundred percent is one. I'm trying to look

711
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 1: at the slash line right now for a looser rise,

712
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:39,839
Speaker 1: but if you kind of want to touch upon the eyes.

713
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 2: No.

714
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 3: My only note on this, Kevin, is that be careful

715
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 3: to say that these guys have proved anything, proved us wrong,

716
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 3: proved us right after seven games. That's how early we

717
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 3: ate our cold takes out there is when things over

718
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 3: a larger sample maybe don't prove to be quite as

719
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 3: like significant as we thought they were the very first week.

720
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 3: So far, so good for him, and the same thing

721
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 3: with Zardo. So far, so terrific. Yeah, but it's not

722
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 3: totally predictive. There's some as things that could happen when

723
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 3: injuries come into play, or guys try to play through injuries,

724
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 3: or when they finally play a road game because they

725
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:19,879
Speaker 3: have not played a road game yet. Still a whole

726
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 3: lot of complications that can be thrown into what we

727
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:24,399
Speaker 3: think we know about this team.

728
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 1: And just to read out the slash line, four fifty eight,

729
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 1: five hundred, five hundred with a one point zero zero ops.

730
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: He has two RBIs, two walks, only struck out three times.

731
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,879
Speaker 1: He's looked really good so far. So I guess final

732
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 1: thing we'll touch on with when it comes to the

733
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: Marlins major league side, because I want to do touch

734
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: very quickly on the minor leagues, which we spoke about.

735
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: What I want to get Isaac's thoughts, because you know,

736
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 1: pennsil Cola starts tomorrow for us. At the moment of

737
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,879
Speaker 1: the recordings, Belloyd and those are some teams to look

738
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 1: out for. Looking ahead, Marlins go to New York to

739
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 1: play the Mets, and that's just got swept by the Brewers,

740
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 1: by Brian Anderson and the Brewers, I shall say. And

741
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:09,720
Speaker 1: after that they will be going to Philadelphia playing the Phillies,

742
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,760
Speaker 1: who got off to a very tough start to their season.

743
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: And then you come back home to play in Arizona

744
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: Diamondbacks team, which is a sneaky good team. So Isaac,

745
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 1: just your thoughts on the upcoming schedule for Miami will

746
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 1: have Sandy Luzardo for Philadelphia, you'll probably have more or

747
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,720
Speaker 1: less the back end of the rotation for the Arizona series,

748
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 1: and then you have the back end for this Mets series.

749
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: But yes, down Verlander probably won't see shus of this series.

750
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 2: So yes, with the Mets series, you know, you're hoping

751
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 2: if you're the Marlins, you're hoping to salvage one of

752
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 2: those games city fields they're opening. It is their home

753
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 2: opening series. So the one thing I'm really looking at

754
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:52,800
Speaker 2: and we'll be paying a very close attention to, is

755
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 2: Edward Cabrera's second start of the year. You gotta see

756
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 2: how he bounces back. And this is no walk in

757
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 2: the park for edckre be in Citi Field, their home

758
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 2: open day game. Those you know, we've all been a

759
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:04,359
Speaker 2: city well, Eli and I have been a city field

760
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,240
Speaker 2: and it's a sie Okay you too, So it's been crazy.

761
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 2: It is a ton of environments of pitching, and so

762
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 2: I really am looking forward to seeing how Edward bounces

763
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 2: back against a very very patient New York Mets offense.

764
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 2: So you're looking forward to that. You know, Trevor Rodgers

765
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 2: also his second start, Well we assume it to be

766
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 2: Braxton Garrett on Sunday. There hasn't been an official announcement yet,

767
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,760
Speaker 2: So yeah, the hope is you salvage one of those games.

768
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 2: You go to Philadelphia. You always feel confident with this

769
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 2: Miami team playing for the Elephant for some reason. You know,

770
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:35,320
Speaker 2: no matter how good they are, they just seem to

771
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:39,320
Speaker 2: have Philly's number, And especially when you have Sandy and Lozardo,

772
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 2: you know, the top three, you know, Sandy, Lozardo, Edward

773
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 2: for that series, you feel pretty confident. So you go

774
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 2: home after that face a Dimonbacks team that's okay. You know,

775
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 2: they definitely have some fun players for sure, but it's

776
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 2: an okay mall club, so you can sort of maybe

777
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,479
Speaker 2: try and get above five hundred, you know, and maybe

778
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 2: going to going to Mayy over five hundred, which would

779
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 2: be pretty rare for this Marlin spot. So yeah, there's

780
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 2: a sense of optimism in my opinion for this team, because, boy,

781
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,399
Speaker 2: if the starting pitching can do what they've been doing

782
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 2: in the second go around so far, what Sandys already

783
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 2: have done, and the offense sort of evens itself out.

784
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 2: Like I said, they're not going to be last in

785
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 2: the league. In batting average. They've already hit seven home runs.

786
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 2: They hit eleven home runs all of spring training. They've

787
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 2: already hit seven. So that's something that's a good that's

788
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 2: you know, a sign of hope. Yeah, you just hold

789
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:26,439
Speaker 2: the things even out on the opposive side and things

790
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 2: could go pretty swell for the scene. Look at what's

791
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 2: going out with Philly and Washington. They're really, you know,

792
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 2: down bad in the standings. You just hope Atlanta slows

793
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:34,839
Speaker 2: down at some point.

794
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. Something to mention is that Miami did not see

795
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: Carlos Carrasco last time they faced the Mets here at

796
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: Miami Crossco. Although he's had a relatively good success against

797
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 1: the Marlins. I mean, he got blown up by the

798
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 1: by the Brewers, you know, due to pitch clock violations.

799
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 1: I know he struggled with that. So and then you

800
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 1: have Tyler McGill, who, although he was pretty damn good

801
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: against the Marlins on Saturday, I think Miami can find

802
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: a way to get his number there. So if you

803
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: feel good about playing the Mets, this would be the

804
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 1: series two do that, especially if Trevor bounces back and

805
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: Braxton looks like Braxton we saw in twenty twenty two,

806
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 1: you feel pretty damn good. And then obviously every time

807
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 1: it's a Saney star you feel sky high, especially against

808
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: Matt Straw. I'm not too familiar with the name, but

809
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 1: just with that, I think we know the caliber will

810
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 1: be seeing against For the mind, you know the caliber

811
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 1: of pitcher we'll see from him. Then obviously of Aaron

812
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 1: Nolan Zach Wheeler, there are two horses going out there

813
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:36,760
Speaker 1: and facing the Morelands offense.

814
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,439
Speaker 3: You touched on Braxton Garrett, and so for anybody it's listening,

815
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,399
Speaker 3: it's not familiar. He does seem to be the near

816
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:47,359
Speaker 3: terms replacement for Johnny Quido in the rotation, not yet

817
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 3: fully stretched out to be a starter because they had

818
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 3: him at the end of spring focus on being a

819
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 3: longer leiever.

820
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 4: But we'll see.

821
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,359
Speaker 3: I'm fascinated to see how he does against the Mets.

822
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 3: I think both Isaac and I I know I was

823
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 3: we're in attendance. He pitched at City Field last year.

824
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:03,879
Speaker 3: Maybe it was just me that yeah, but he yeah,

825
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 3: he didn't pitch. It was like doing all right, and

826
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,320
Speaker 3: then he got blown up in the middle endings of

827
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,839
Speaker 3: that outing, and then from that point forward he ended

828
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 3: the season extremely well. Like he was such a bright

829
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:17,280
Speaker 3: spot last year, kind of reaching a level of performance

830
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 3: that we thought the ship had sailed on him being

831
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 3: a bona fide major league starting pitcher, and he really

832
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 3: looked like one for a big chunk of last season.

833
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 3: They might not be If he is well, just brings

834
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 3: back whatever he was doing last year, which a lot

835
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 3: of it was focused on his slider and finally being

836
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,280
Speaker 3: able to get whiffs against it, and also his fastball

837
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,800
Speaker 3: velocity being up a little bit where it was consistently

838
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 3: sitting in the low nineties instead of maxing out in

839
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 3: the low nineties. Then this is a guy that can

840
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 3: very capably fill Johnny quato shoes and give them something

841
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 3: close to what Quaoto did for the White Sox last

842
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 3: year on a start by start basis. I'll be fascinated

843
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 3: to see how he does in this first outing. Beyond him,

844
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 3: you know, the Marl's rotation depth, the immediate available rotation

845
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 3: depth is really questionable right now. So if he doesn't

846
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 3: flip on the switch to where he was last year,

847
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 3: or if any of these guys obviously get hurt within

848
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 3: the next few weeks before Quato is back, then this

849
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 3: strength of the team becomes a whole lot more questionable.

850
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 3: That is going to be the common through line throughout

851
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:31,720
Speaker 3: this season is how high level performance can this rotation sustain.

852
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 3: We've been talking about it for a while about for

853
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 3: years about the potential for this to be an elite rotation,

854
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:41,839
Speaker 3: and my generally optimistic progation for this team is kind

855
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 3: of predicated on them making that leap and being beyond

856
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 3: just Sandy and Lozardo, having some of these other guys

857
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 3: give you league average production, even in the back end spots.

858
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 3: So that is what I'm going to be focused on most.

859
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 3: It's not a sexy storyline, but I want to see

860
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,760
Speaker 3: what Braxton looks like once he's back in a starting position.

861
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 1: All right, since already here, the series doesn't starts tomorrow

862
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: or Isaac, what's your serious prediction for the Mets'.

863
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 2: I'll say Miami wins two out of three. How about that?

864
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 2: I think I don't think anyone's ever gonna hit Coday

865
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 2: Singa that fourthball. It's like a changeup and a knuckleball

866
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:23,359
Speaker 2: in a one pitch. It was the craziest thing I've

867
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,320
Speaker 2: ever seen in my life. But I think, you know,

868
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 2: the second time in a week facing mcguil. Carrasco got

869
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 2: blown up and Corrosco has that success, like you said,

870
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 2: Kevin against the Marlins. But I you know, I think

871
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 2: I like this lineup against Carrasco. I think they have

872
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 2: a chance to win to out of three couple lefties

873
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 2: on the mount from Miami and Rodgers and Garrett. I

874
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,320
Speaker 2: think Miami went started three something I know we hadn't mentioned,

875
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 2: just really quick going to get everyone's out. Haycus Sanchez

876
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,320
Speaker 2: had like a really tough start to the season, and

877
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,839
Speaker 2: he hasn't been getting all the starts. I assume it's

878
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 2: because he struggled, but I think, you know, to skip

879
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 2: and the organization is doing him sort of a disservice

880
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 2: by not starting him as often. In my opinion, he's

881
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 2: the one you should try to start instead of Dela Cruise.

882
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 2: I know Dela Cruise had that huge monumental hit and

883
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 2: yesterday's ball game they pretty much gave him the win.

884
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:10,320
Speaker 2: But you know, I'm a little disappointed that Hazel Sands

885
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 2: has been getting such limited playing time early this season.

886
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 1: I think I think we always we said this when

887
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 1: we when we first when the Miami Mark, when Miami

888
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 1: first acquired De la Cruz that his ceiling would be

889
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 1: a fourth outfielder at best, and Miami hasn't used him

890
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 1: as a fourth outfielder. They've been starting this sky over

891
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 1: Hazu Sanchez. Why I believe Hazus should be starting over

892
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 1: over Dela Cruz in my opinion, and I think I

893
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 1: think it's just the lack of that bats that Sanchez

894
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: is getting where you're maybe seeing him struggle a little bit.

895
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 1: I would like to see Miami just give him a

896
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: longer lease out there, starting in right or left wherever

897
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 1: he's at, or even put him as a DH so

898
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 1: you could get some at bats. I mean, skip To

899
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: has made this very clear that this DH spot is

900
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 1: going to be rotated around amongst the bench. We'll be

901
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 1: seeing starters in there, so I mean our outfielders that

902
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 1: play mostly in the outfield, So I would like to

903
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: see Sancho's going more playtime. I do agree with you, Isaac.

904
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 1: I think this guy has that twenty homer potential. And

905
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: I'm not going to go on the lane and say

906
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 1: he'll get forty like you said in our predictions video,

907
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,359
Speaker 1: but I definitely think he could have some some good

908
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 1: success and he showed it in spring training. It was

909
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 1: pretty good in spring training. I mean, both Dela Cruz

910
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 1: and Sanchez were looking really good out there. So I

911
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 1: think it's just more more need consistent playing time for

912
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 1: Sanchi and Dela Cruz just lived, you know, put him

913
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 1: as that fourth outfielder because I'll forever remember when Skip

914
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 1: said he wants to get Dela Cruz like five hundred ads.

915
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 1: That was like one of his first press conferences when

916
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 1: you want to do when he first was hired, and

917
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 1: I disagreed with that from the start.

918
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 3: It's not just about de la Cruz, right, Like, A

919
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 3: big impact on his playing time is Avi Garcia. How

920
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 3: how quickly or how open are they to rather than

921
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 3: penciling convenas as starver every single day, giving him particularly

922
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,959
Speaker 3: against some tough right handed pitching, like having Sanchez start

923
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,839
Speaker 3: in place of him, rather than competing for with Dela

924
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 3: Cruz for playing time.

925
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 4: Avi like he had that one big moment, that.

926
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 3: Home run that ended up making the entire difference in

927
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 3: the Sandy win against the Twins. That gives him that

928
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 3: I guess it takes him out of the doghouse briefly. Overall,

929
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 3: it has not been like a very impressive star for

930
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 3: him this year, he looks a whole lot like the

931
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 3: version of him that we saw last year.

932
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 4: Even with that home run.

933
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 3: It's a five point fifty four ops this year, which

934
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 3: is actually a little bit lower than it was last

935
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 3: year when he was trending towards being one of the

936
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 3: worst signings in Marlin's free agent history.

937
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 4: And when he hit that home run, I noticed it.

938
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 3: When he hit it, he was so excited to tell

939
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 3: Dela Cruz that he thought he saw something that the

940
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:48,879
Speaker 3: reason why he hit that home run, one could say,

941
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 3: is because he knew it was a slider coming. And

942
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,800
Speaker 3: so when he knew when he picked up something in

943
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,479
Speaker 3: Kenson Maida's delivery to know what pitch is coming, that's

944
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 3: when he did something good. And when he doesn't do that,

945
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 3: you get the other side of AVI, which is like

946
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 3: an automatic out that anyway you slice it. It doesn't

947
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 3: seem anything as imminent on his role shrinking, but if

948
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 3: his performance continues for any length of time being what

949
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 3: it is right now, like that's how Sanchez gets into

950
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 3: the lineup more often, at least in some you don't

951
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 3: call it a platoon, but occasionally being able to start

952
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 3: in place of Av rather than being him or Dela Cruz.

953
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and I think that it hasn't been helped that,

954
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 2: you know, his two stars. I can remember off the

955
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 2: top of my head against Pablo and against saying, you know,

956
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,320
Speaker 2: very tough guys that he's never faced before.

957
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 1: So I don't know.

958
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of games in the New

959
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 2: York series that I would have started him, especially with

960
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 2: David Peterson starting game two. You know, maybe he could

961
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,439
Speaker 2: have been there on an opening day. I gainst someone

962
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 2: like Sures or that I would have maybe handled it differently.

963
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,800
Speaker 2: But hey, they they have their analytics supporting people, and

964
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 2: they have the best people in the world telling them what.

965
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 1: To do, so they must. Well, yeah, mon't sly about

966
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 1: that one. But I was getting to the E Live

967
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 1: series MVP.

968
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 2: By the way, my series MVP is gonna be Louise Aura.

969
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 2: I wish I could roll my r Luisa Rise. I

970
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 2: think he's gonna have eight hits this weekend, so finally.

971
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 1: Just wrap it up. Pensacola starts their serious their season

972
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,800
Speaker 1: tomorrow as well as Beloit. As we speak, Jupiter is

973
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 1: currently playing Carson mill Brandt the twenty twenty two draft

974
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 1: Pigause on the mound against the Palm Beach Cardinals. Just

975
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,359
Speaker 1: your little minor league up date, Isaac and players are

976
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 1: you're really looking forward to see? We did a whole

977
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 1: hour and fifteen on this on stream last night, so.

978
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was watching here you guys on stream. You

979
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:45,320
Speaker 2: guys did a great job, great job posting Kevin with

980
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 2: Daniel de Vivo and Alex Carver. They do excellent stuff

981
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 2: on fishing the farm, covering all of your Miami Marlins

982
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 2: minor league baseball. And yeah, I think the funny thing

983
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 2: that set out is that the two Mesa brothers are

984
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:01,879
Speaker 2: in the same outfields for Pennsycol. It's just amazing how

985
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 2: wrong you know the team was in twenty eighteen when

986
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 2: they signed this player. How I get the whole industry

987
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 2: as well. He's a number one ranked international prospect in

988
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 2: all of baseball and he they had a whole media

989
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,959
Speaker 2: day for him. They were so excited about this player

990
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 2: who just has not hit anything. It's that impacted the

991
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 2: baseball offensively whatsoever. You gotta be happy with Victim Mason Junior.

992
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 2: You know, at his age, starting at double A, he's

993
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 2: someone that who knows if he tears it up, is

994
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 2: he gets a September column, so that's be something to

995
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 2: look forward to. But you know, when you look at

996
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,360
Speaker 2: the Marlins minor league system, it all starts with the pitching.

997
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 2: And you got Dax Fault getting the opening day nod.

998
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 2: Every prize was sliding right behind him. Unfortunately, Zach mccambley

999
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 2: is hurt, Jake Eater is hurt. Who's the other one

1000
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:48,320
Speaker 2: that started to there's another starting pitcher that is recovering

1001
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:51,839
Speaker 2: from something. Obviously Maximier's recovering from Tommy John surgery. But yeah,

1002
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 2: it's the upper level, upper levels of the miners, I

1003
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 2: think are the ones that should have a lot of

1004
00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 2: familiar names for most casual fans. And yeah, obviously in

1005
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 2: Jupitery Khalil got a very fun infield as well, So

1006
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 2: it should be a fun minor league season. It always

1007
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 2: is fun when all four minor league affiliates get started.

1008
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 2: It's a very fun time.

1009
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 4: Well at the lower level.

1010
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 3: Kevin shouted him out, Carson mill Brandt, forget about the

1011
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 3: results but his stuff.

1012
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 4: He's averaging ninety five on his fastball.

1013
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:21,800
Speaker 2: In his first start of the season.

1014
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 3: A teenager, teenager who we barely got to see last year.

1015
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 3: Marlins gave him a big bonus to get him out

1016
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 3: of his college commitment and turned pro and a very

1017
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 3: fascinating start to this season. I would not be surprised

1018
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 3: if he's somebody that takes a pretty big leap onto

1019
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:43,280
Speaker 3: the project radar this year, considering all the starter traits

1020
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 3: that he has. I was not expecting him to sit

1021
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 3: ninety five in max out at ninety seven here against

1022
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 3: low A hitters.

1023
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 4: That's an exciting development. This is this farm system. We

1024
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 4: covered it all.

1025
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 3: We're kind of underwhelmed with what it is right now,

1026
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 3: with a lot of the former top prospects where it

1027
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:03,800
Speaker 3: graduates in the big leagues, a lot of pitchers that

1028
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 3: we were really excited about currently injured right now.

1029
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 4: This is a year where you just.

1030
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 3: Hope some of these guys pop up, break out and

1031
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 3: surprise us. So Carson mill Brandt, somebody that could go

1032
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,360
Speaker 3: from being in the back of your mind is like

1033
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 3: an interesting starting candidate to somebody that who knows if

1034
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 3: three innings are any indication right now he walked. You

1035
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 3: look for guys like this that could pop out now

1036
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 3: that they're under very capable hands of the Marlins pitching

1037
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 3: development team.

1038
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 1: YEP, and I think that's where we are going to

1039
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 1: end it so fun episode fifty one minutes. We will

1040
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: be back in two weeks. We think we'll have a guest.

1041
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 1: We're trying to work that out from Eli, from Isaac myself.

1042
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 1: We'll see you guys on the next one. Peace out

1043
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:52,879
Speaker 1: and go fish. We gotta end it off right