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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center.

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Speaker 2: Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty, I'm strong.

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Speaker 1: And Gatty and he.

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Speaker 3: Armstrong and Letty.

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Speaker 4: Tiger Woods is once again stepping away from golf after

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Speaker 4: Friday's crash in Jupiter, Florida. He says he's entering treatment

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Speaker 4: so he can quote work toward lasting recovery.

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Speaker 1: His post on X reading.

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Speaker 4: In part I'm committed to taking the time needed to

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Speaker 4: return in a healthier, stronger, and more focused place both

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Speaker 4: personally and professionally.

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Speaker 1: Has been nearly two years since.

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Speaker 4: Tiger played golf on the PGA Tour, though he has

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Speaker 4: played in tournaments, the PGA supports a fifteen time Major

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Speaker 4: champions decision and posted on X Above all else, Tiger

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Speaker 4: is a person and our focus is.

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Speaker 1: On his health and well being.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: His statement, like most things in his life, was all

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Speaker 5: about MEMI me, Here's what I'm going to do to

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Speaker 5: make my life better.

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Speaker 1: My life, this my life.

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Speaker 5: That no mention of the fact that he so easily

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Speaker 5: could have killed somebody again by driving like a complete

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Speaker 5: nut job out of his mind on drugs uh and

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Speaker 5: could have killed somebody. Nothing on that to me, which

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Speaker 5: means he's nowhere near getting over his addiction.

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Speaker 1: The fact that he's told me something about the pain

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Speaker 1: he caused his family, which is kind of an automatic,

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Speaker 5: There He said we would like privacy at this moment

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Speaker 5: or something like that, but the I'm going to work

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Speaker 5: to get my block, my my my and know, thank

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Speaker 5: god I didn't kill anybody, which.

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Speaker 1: Should you know. Anyway, I said what I said.

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Speaker 5: So we got the Supreme Court oral arguments going on

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Speaker 5: on the birthright citizens case going on right now, and

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Speaker 5: we can talk more about that later. Just saw this

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Speaker 5: that Gorsicch, according to Jonathan Turly, has continued to express

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Speaker 5: a degree of skepticism towards the historical arguments of the administration.

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Speaker 5: The historical arguments of the administration.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, keeping in mind that a guy like Gorsich will

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Speaker 1: ask the tough questions because he's trying to find flaws

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Speaker 1: in his own argument. Often. Well, we'll see. Yeah, if

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Speaker 1: you missed our fabulous preview of this case, it took

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Speaker 1: place in our one right of the show. Yeah, Armstrong

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Speaker 1: and gettyon demand subscribe to the podcast. So a quick

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Speaker 1: follow up then, as we affectionately call the little bingo

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Speaker 1: bango bongo stories that are definitely worth hearing about, at

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Speaker 1: least in brief. But Jack falling up on your discussion

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Speaker 1: of being asked to leave the room so the medical

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Speaker 1: professional can get with your child and take control of

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Speaker 1: the situation. The federal laws on this are practically non

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Speaker 1: exis existent. It's a state by state thing. But even

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Speaker 1: more than that, it's largely clinical guidelines recommended by groups

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Speaker 1: like the AMA, AAP and ACOG, which I could probably

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Speaker 1: figure out what it stands for, but I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Even more reason to ignore them exactly, especially when we've

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Speaker 1: documented for you good people over and over again how

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Speaker 1: a lot of the big medical organizations have been completely

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Speaker 1: captured by the woke.

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Speaker 5: Last I am, I gotta admit, I'm full of embarrassment,

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Speaker 5: full of embarrassment that I agreed to leave the room.

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Speaker 5: I'll never do it again. I'll never do it again.

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Speaker 5: It's taught medical training.

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Speaker 1: Again. The medical schools are famously captured by the woke.

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Speaker 1: They were among the most susceptible to the woke takeover

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Speaker 1: in recent years. Really more than that on university campuses.

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Speaker 1: But it's taught medical training is best practice, especially for adolescents,

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Speaker 1: reproductive health visits, and domestic violence screening. But it's left

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Speaker 1: to provide our discretion in most plays. No, I cannot

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Speaker 1: speak to cal Unicornia. Now, let me throw this in

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Speaker 1: just so I don't come off as a complete monster.

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Speaker 1: If I had a teenage daughter who said I'd like

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Speaker 1: You know, if it's just you know, the sort of

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Speaker 1: your dad. Maybe I don't know. I suppose I could happen.

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Speaker 5: I don't have a daughter, but you know, the reverse,

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Speaker 5: just them automatically as you said, I'll take the wheel.

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Speaker 5: Now I'm in charge of the whole parenting thing. You

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Speaker 5: leave the room, f you, And I don't mean the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there is a hell of a lot in our

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Speaker 5: And I'm pretty sensitive. If you'd like to look into

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Speaker 5: this stuff. It's really interesting that that's quite a philosophical break.

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Speaker 5: People who believe the family is like the sole important

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Speaker 1: It's pretty interesting, agreed. So as a bridge to some

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Speaker 1: of the other stories I wanted to bring to you,

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Speaker 1: I was clauding the question of what's the basis of

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Speaker 1: AMA or whatever. And it occurred to me that, as

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Speaker 1: always with Ai in search, I might be getting a

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Speaker 1: had a really good piece about how a handful of

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Speaker 1: woke Wikipedia editors have completely twisted Wikipedia into a progressive organization.

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Speaker 1: You're saying, yeah, Joe, we know that, but what hadn't

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Speaker 1: dawned on me? And here I'll give you the example,

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Speaker 1: then I'll give you the significance. Wikipedia editors are editing

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Speaker 1: the crap out of any coverage of Zoron Mumdani, for instance,

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Speaker 1: his relationships with radical groups. During one of his rap

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Speaker 1: He was shouting out to five men convicted of financing Hamas,

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Speaker 1: murder of a boy from New York City. Uh, but

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Speaker 1: they're cleansing all of that. Here's the problem. Wikipedia is

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Speaker 1: one of the primary learning sources for AI systems.

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Speaker 5: I notice that whenever I don't know if every AI

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Speaker 5: does this, but a lot of them do. The chatbots

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Speaker 5: you ask you a question and you can see it

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Speaker 5: thinking and the sources it's using. And Wikipedia is almost

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Speaker 5: always the first source that it's using to give you

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Speaker 1: Right right, and the Free Beacon, the Washington Free Beacon

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Speaker 1: has done some great writing on this too. Let's see

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Speaker 1: a look at some key pages on the site reveals

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Speaker 1: the links to which Wikipedia editors are willing to go

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Speaker 1: to shape Momdnnie's public image and critically that of his wife,

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Speaker 1: Rama Duagi and her pro hamas social media posts. And

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Speaker 1: then a report by Washington Free Beacon found that Duagi

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Speaker 1: the mass rape hoax in Britain, would you believe it?

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Speaker 1: And that's this guy who who is repeating reporting on it.

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Speaker 1: And then Wikipedia used that bias reporting and cleansed any

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Speaker 1: So that's kind of troubling. Well, it's not kind of troubling,

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Speaker 1: it's completely troubling. But moving along, this is just funny.

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Speaker 1: Trauma is the New Black is the title of this

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Speaker 1: somewhat humorous post about how it starts with this Abdul

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Speaker 1: al Sayed, far left terrorist adjacent democrat running for the

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Speaker 1: he's doing very, very well. The funny story about how

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Speaker 1: he's been boasting for years about doing time quote unquote

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Speaker 1: and took an arrest. And I didn't take the politician's

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Speaker 1: I took the whole arrest. I did my time. Except

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Speaker 1: his campaign pitch. He's told the story over and over

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Speaker 1: and over again, Joe Biden like, And then what really

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Speaker 1: amused me is they get into Democrats are bringing back

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Speaker 1: the hardship Olympics in and beyond. Candidates across the country

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Speaker 1: you have to lean into your childhood trauma. If you've

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Speaker 1: had a really good life. Like Gavin Newsom, it's dyslexia

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Speaker 1: and a rich, absent father who, by the way, funded

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Speaker 1: his entire career. For Josh Shapiro, it's what he describes

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Speaker 1: as at points an unhappy childhood home. Wow, those of

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Speaker 1: us who had exclusively, perfectly, everyday happy homes feel for you.

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Speaker 1: For JB. Pritzker, it's becoming a billionaire orphan at seventeen

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Speaker 1: and combating fat phobia.

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Speaker 5: If your kid is happy every moment of their childhood.

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Speaker 5: You're probably doing something wrong.

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Speaker 5: Into unless you really like doing laundry and mowing the

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Speaker 1: Here's another story that I wanted to bring to you,

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Speaker 1: hear it except you, good people. The story of Argentina

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Speaker 1: this fake cops, fake judges, the Hollywood style scam poised

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Speaker 1: to go global. India is leading the way in these

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Speaker 1: incredibly elaborate digital scams where you're contacted through various means

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Speaker 1: a court or an authority or an investigative body or whatever.

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Speaker 1: And it's Hollywood quality sets where the just sitting there

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Speaker 1: And granted it still takes a bit of are you

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Speaker 1: serious you fell for this, but it's incredibly elaborate, high

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Speaker 1: budget live video conference scamming that's going on. And this

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Speaker 1: one woman's a former assistant professor at Rutgers University's medical

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Speaker 1: school and she got duped. Yeah, Hollywood level production that

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Speaker 1: See I would never fall for this, but a lot

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Speaker 1: Up Armstrong and Getty. I just came across this tweet.

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Speaker 5: It's a couple of days old from Nate Silver Though funny,

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Speaker 5: They're arguing whether over at the whole birthright citizenship thing

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Speaker 1: Correct kind of deal with that? Well, we take care

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Speaker 8: There are five hundred, five hundred birth tourism companies in

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Speaker 8: I think it's I'd quote with Justice Clia said in

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Speaker 8: No, But of course we're in a new world now,

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Speaker 2: Well, to the world, it is the same constitution.

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Speaker 1: No, it's funny. It struck me, and I'm learning more

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Speaker 1: and more about law school because my daughter is in

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Speaker 1: it right now. That a lot of classes, you do

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Speaker 1: your reading and there might be a lecture or whatever.

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Speaker 1: Then the professor says, mister Armstrong, and you stand up

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Speaker 1: and you're like, oh boy, they say, and they ask

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Speaker 1: you a probe question like that. You know, it's still

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Speaker 1: the same constitution. Why would we change the interpretation just

447
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Speaker 1: because of the presence of air flights And you've got

448
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Speaker 1: to explain yourself and your understanding law and that sort

449
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Speaker 1: of thing. And so it strikes me that the oral

450
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Speaker 1: arguments are like a law school class. A lot of

451
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Speaker 1: the time, they're just quizzing the lawyer on help me

452
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Speaker 1: think through this, think, you know, think through this. I

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Speaker 1: didn't get Robert's point. Honestly. What the administration is saying

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Speaker 1: is that the world has changed so wildly.

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Speaker 6: That the.

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Speaker 1: Court decision subsequent to the Fourteenth Amendment in eighteen ninety

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Speaker 1: eight and nineteen ten and whatever else, they're irrelevant. Now

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Speaker 1: we've got to go originalist and look at the framing

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Speaker 1: of the fourteenth Amendment. What did they mean? Not what

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Speaker 1: some court in eighteen ninety eight thought they probably kind

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Speaker 1: of meant in the modern world. No, we've got to

462
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Speaker 1: go back to the source and look at the source

463
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Speaker 1: is the only lens through which we look at the

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Speaker 1: modern interpretation. Why do you think Trump was in the

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Speaker 1: courtroom today. I don't know. Part of me thinks he was.

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Speaker 1: He wanted to intimidate a little bit, or remind some

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Speaker 1: of those justices. I appointed you, all right, I'm your daddy.

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Speaker 1: What's your daddy? I'm your daddy. And part of me

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Speaker 1: just thinks he thinks it's really really important and he

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Speaker 1: wanted to hear it.

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Speaker 5: That second part could be true, although that would have

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Speaker 5: been true for lots of presidents in cases they wanted

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Speaker 5: to turn out a certain way and they didn't show

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Speaker 5: up over there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the tradition was you would never do that because

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Speaker 1: it could be seen as one branch interfering with the

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Speaker 1: other branch, or intimidation or whatever. I can't imagin sure

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Speaker 1: I it entirely.

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Speaker 5: He doesn't have any power to intimidate anybody, though he

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Speaker 5: can't remove them.

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Speaker 1: He can't. He can't damage them in any way. Well,

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Speaker 1: if he whips up like the Maga bass against them,

483
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Speaker 1: could physically be dangerous or you know, undermine the Court,

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Speaker 1: which I know Roberts is really concerned about.

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Speaker 5: I don't know how he could whip up the magabase

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Speaker 5: against them any more than the you know, the people

487
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Speaker 5: who hate Trump have whipped it up against justices on

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Speaker 5: the conservative side already.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. You know, the funny thing about Trump is he's

490
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Speaker 1: so precedent upsetting in a lot of ways that when

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Speaker 1: he upsets precedent, it's just it's not that big a deal.

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Speaker 1: I mean, no sitting president has ever attended Supreme Court

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Speaker 1: oral arguments on a case that he was Party two. Yeah,

494
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Speaker 1: well he does all sorts of crap. Yeah, and it

495
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Speaker 1: just happened.

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Speaker 5: And how shaken does the world seem to be that

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Speaker 5: he They looking around, I think we're okay.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying I like it.

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Speaker 5: So it's April first, you know, you do on April first,

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Speaker 5: you go to a loved one who you have earned

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Speaker 5: their trust over many, many years of being a certain

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Speaker 5: kind of person. Then you say something crazy to them

503
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Speaker 5: that's a lie that causes.

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Speaker 1: Them disturbing, frightening, sickening.

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Speaker 5: Yes, it causes them some unpleasant feeling. And then you say,

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Speaker 5: April fools. You say to your husband, I've been thinking

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Speaker 5: about it and I want a divorce. And then when

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Speaker 5: he's done crying or whatever, yes, you say April fools.

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Speaker 1: Right, it's funny. Maybe tell your little kid.

510
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 5: Maybe you tell your little kid you're moving and you're

511
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Speaker 5: gonna happen, You're never gonna see your friends again.

512
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Speaker 1: And then you say, aperfuls. I'm just doing this routine

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Speaker 1: because I from a.

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Speaker 5: Child, I've never understood April fools. I just have never

515
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Speaker 5: understood why if you do something and I react scared

516
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Speaker 5: or hurt or whatever, that I'm a fool. I'm a

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Speaker 5: fool for believing you're.

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Speaker 1: You're only introducing terrible things that turn out not to

519
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 1: be true, because that's almost a happy ending. How about

520
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: really good things that you then reveal. Nope, it's not happening,

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00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 1: you fool. Schools out today, kids, schools out today. You

522
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Speaker 1: can play all day, aha, April fools, get ready for school?

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Speaker 5: Can Did you ever work at the radio stations where

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Speaker 5: it was sort of obligatory that you did some sort

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Speaker 5: of April Fools prank.

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Speaker 1: I feel like Joe and I did that way back

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Speaker 1: in the day. I don't even hardly remember, though, What

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Speaker 1: oh three rock is now? What oh three country? Playing

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Speaker 1: a country? That's all? Meanwhile the country station or across

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Speaker 1: the streets one oh three country, one o one country

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Speaker 1: is no one a one rock?

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 1: All your little turns are outraged and call and they're angry,

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Speaker 1: and you say, we're getting.

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Speaker 5: I worked for a station that decided to fire the

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Speaker 5: morning show on April first, though, and being the phone

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Speaker 5: screener during that debacle and trying to explain, no, this

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Speaker 5: isn't this isn't a joke. What Yeah, that was bad timing. Yeah, no, kidd,

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Speaker 5: Given the history of morning radio, we do the fake

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Speaker 5: parade thing once.

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Speaker 1: That's kind of a thing. Lots of people. Yes, we

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Speaker 1: did that once. It was kind of fun. Have you

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Speaker 1: ever heard that before, Katie.

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Speaker 5: Now, we pretend there's a big April Fools parade downtown

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Speaker 5: and you go live down there and there's bands and

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Speaker 5: all this, and there's no parade.

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Speaker 1: We described the floats going up.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 1: This was years ago.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, yes, Michael, you guys don't remember the April Fol's

551
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Speaker 10: joke you did right.

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Speaker 1: Actually, Michael tells this story before we go to break.

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Speaker 10: I had just started with the show and what happened, Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 10: I had to reach over to.

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Speaker 1: Ahead, reach over a nudge gladys alive.

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Speaker 10: I was with the show maybe eight weeks, and I'm

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Speaker 10: running the board for them, and they're doing their thing

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Speaker 10: and they pretend to get in a fight, I believe,

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Speaker 10: and they said better argument, better argument, and they storm out.

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Speaker 10: They said, that's it, We're not doing this anymore.

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Speaker 1: They just left me there right in the middle of

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Speaker 1: a segment. I've forgotten what did you end up doing?

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00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 1: I can't remember.

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Speaker 10: I I don't know if I cracked the mic, or

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Speaker 10: if I went to a commercial, or I just I

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Speaker 10: just I can't remember.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, this audio has to be somewhere. It's

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Speaker 1: on a reel.

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Speaker 5: Somewhere, like literally a reel of tape. But that is

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Speaker 5: similar to what I was mocking before. So here's some

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Speaker 5: people that I work for. We're now going to make

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00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 5: it clear that you can't believe anything.

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Speaker 1: We say more than we think.

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Speaker 5: Cruelty to you, causing you emotional pain for our for

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Speaker 5: our pleasure, is perfectly on the table.

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Speaker 1: This stress terrible stress, gut wrenching stress. You're a young person,

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Speaker 1: You've got a job. I just met you, guys.

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Speaker 10: I really didn't know them very well at all.

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Speaker 1: We were horrible people. Now you guys, knock it off.

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Speaker 1: We are much better people now. I think, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: I don't know less fun Evidently, listen to you, we're

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Speaker 1: less fun people. Oh my god. I apologize on behalf

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Speaker 1: of younger me. I still look back at it with joy.

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Speaker 1: There you go. Cool, Okay, we got more on the ways.

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Speaker 1: Stay here.

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Speaker 5: I use AI chatbots a lot for all kinds of

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Speaker 5: different stuff, and I just came across something delusional spiraling,

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Speaker 5: which they've just discovered in AI chatbots.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about that in our four. Really interesting wow

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Speaker 1: Plus Canada's lost its damn mind joined us for our four.

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Speaker 1: If you don't get our four, you can't be here.

592
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 1: Just to grab it via podcast, you got to follow us,

593
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 1: subscribe to Armstrong you getty on demand. A couple of

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Speaker 1: quick notes that I think are worth squeezing in. First

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Speaker 1: of all, Jack, I'll bet you'll get this this. I'm

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Speaker 1: putting Jack on the spot. What is wrong with this sentence?

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Speaker 1: It's a story about our good friends in Washington State

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Speaker 1: who have their first ever income tax. It happens to

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Speaker 1: start now with income over one million dollars. Here's here's

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Speaker 1: the sentence. Tell me what's wrong with this the loss

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Speaker 1: I'm by Governor Bob Ferguson creates an income tax for

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Speaker 1: top earners beginning in twenty twenty eight to nine point

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Speaker 1: nine percent tax blah blah blah income over one million

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Speaker 1: dollars and will be used to fund childcare programs, free

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Speaker 1: school meals, tax credits for working families, and tax breaks

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Speaker 1: for small businesses. Well, I don't know.

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Speaker 5: There's probably lots of things wrong with that. One of

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Speaker 5: them would be what the money gets used for. It'll

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Speaker 5: just go into a fund and get spent.

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Speaker 3: Ding ding ding ding.

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Speaker 1: I knew I could count on you. Money is fungible. Yeah, please,

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Speaker 1: you can give me one thousand dollars and tell me

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Speaker 1: it's for eating out with Judy. I might spend it

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Speaker 1: on my wife eating out or on golfer. Spend less

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00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: on golf because I got more over here. It's more

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Speaker 1: a medical bill you just got hit with or whatever,

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Speaker 1: right exactly? Oh my god, if you fall for that

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00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 1: and everybody falls always yeah, yeah, Well.

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Speaker 5: That's because of the article in the Wall Street Journal

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Speaker 5: for gonna sake to be charitable to people. It's like

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Speaker 5: social security. I think we make an assumption that it

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Speaker 5: goes into a specific account.

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Speaker 1: That it can only be used for that purpose. But

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Speaker 1: that's not the way money. It's not the way you're

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Speaker 1: SoC security.

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Speaker 5: I mean, soci security is the greatest example of all,

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, we all assume it's going into some sort

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Speaker 5: of an account somewhere that is just for social security. No,

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Speaker 5: it just goes into the general fund of money, and

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Speaker 5: it's getting used for you know, the war, and for

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Speaker 5: social programs and for you know, National Hot Dog Day

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Speaker 5: if there's some reason the federal government needs to spend

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Speaker 5: money or whatever.

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Speaker 1: And then when you retire that the federal government says,

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Speaker 1: where the effort are you going to get the money

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Speaker 1: for a jack's retirement? I guess will borrow it. That's

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Speaker 1: the way it actually works. All right, Moving along, I

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Speaker 1: thought this was interesting. I'm super excited about Cuba. Nobody's

639
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 1: talking about Cuba, the crumbling of the evil communist Castro

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Speaker 1: regime and the prospect perhaps for reform there. I'm on

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Speaker 1: fire for Cuba right now.

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Speaker 5: I'm reading listening to Cuba Libre fantastic freaking book about

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Speaker 5: the rise of Fidel and Chay and take it over

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Speaker 5: the country and the before and after.

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Speaker 1: It's so good. So anyway, Trump the other day little

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Speaker 1: remarked upon let a giant Russian tanker carrying seven hundred

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Speaker 1: and thirty thousand barrels of oil dock in a northern

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Speaker 1: Cuban port to bring a little relief to the fuel

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Speaker 1: star of island, because he's got enough balls in the

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Speaker 1: air with plates spinning. What's the expression, It doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: There's so much going on with Iran right now. Cuba's

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Speaker 1: regime is about to collapse, and it looks like the

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Speaker 1: Trump administration was saying, we can't deal with that right now.

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Speaker 5: Oh you think that's why they did it, to like

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Speaker 5: keep the regime healthy for a little while. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 5: that's the way White House officials said. The move does

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Speaker 5: not market policy change, and the Trump administration is deciding

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Speaker 1: I Think it's the nephew of Martin Luther King Jr.

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Speaker 1: It's a very serious bit of writing and very eloquent.

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