WEBVTT - Episode 8: Vile Hearts

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<v Speaker 1>School of Humans.

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<v Speaker 2>This show follows the investigation of serial murders and contains

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<v Speaker 2>material that may be disturbing.

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<v Speaker 3>Listener discretion advised.

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<v Speaker 4>Jared Jackson went missing on December sixteenth of twenty sixteen,

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<v Speaker 4>the same day that Zack Valentine was apparently killed in

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<v Speaker 4>a car accident. This was no coincidence. After both men disappeared,

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<v Speaker 4>Alectis Perdaeis worked feverishly to get their hands on Zack

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<v Speaker 4>Valentine's life insurance PEA, and when a friend posted about

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<v Speaker 4>Zach's death on Facebook, the group thought they were in

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<v Speaker 4>the clear. They saw this as a green light to

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<v Speaker 4>file the claim, but these things take time, something EPD

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<v Speaker 4>didn't have. Someone else saw the post. Two Detective Susette

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<v Speaker 4>Canotse's daughter Shaney. She alerted her mother, I.

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<v Speaker 5>Read something on Facebook and she was like, oh, this

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<v Speaker 5>may be a link.

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<v Speaker 2>To my pace.

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<v Speaker 4>Although she was not working on the case, it had

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<v Speaker 4>stayed with her these last four years, so Suzette called

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<v Speaker 4>it in. She warned authorities to be extra suspicious of

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<v Speaker 4>anything involving Zach Valentine or Cecilia Stein. Her instincts were,

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<v Speaker 4>as usual, right on the money. Zach was in hiding

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<v Speaker 4>pretending to be dead until the coast was clear. Here's

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<v Speaker 4>Detective Ben Boysen.

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<v Speaker 6>Zack Valentine became an issue for him because he wasn't hiding.

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<v Speaker 6>He said diabetic. He needed medicine. I didn't have money.

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<v Speaker 4>Life on the run was hard for Zach for obvious reasons.

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<v Speaker 4>He couldn't get a job, so he spent his days

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<v Speaker 4>and nights hold up in a cheap hotel outside Krueger's door,

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<v Speaker 4>living on cup of noodles, cigarettes, and the insolent brought him.

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<v Speaker 4>It would make sense that Laru would be genuinely concerned

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<v Speaker 4>for Zach. After all, he was the closest thing Laroux

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<v Speaker 4>had to a father or an older brother. According to

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<v Speaker 4>Yana Marx's book, LaRue warned Zack that Cecilia and the

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<v Speaker 4>others were considering getting rid of him because he was

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<v Speaker 4>becoming too expensive to keep alive.

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<v Speaker 6>Maranda was working as a teacher. Salary was not enough

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<v Speaker 6>for all those people to live and to buy Zach

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<v Speaker 6>Valentine's medicine. So I think at the end of the

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<v Speaker 6>day they would have killed.

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<v Speaker 4>Him because they had gotten away with so much already.

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<v Speaker 4>Though Secilia and Marinda thought they were untouchable, here's doctor

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<v Speaker 4>Nikki Falkoff we met earlier in the series.

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<v Speaker 7>Once you realized that the thing that is the most

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<v Speaker 7>taboo thing imaginable is actually possible for you to do,

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<v Speaker 7>your sense of yourself as being subject to the same

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<v Speaker 7>rules as everybody else in society probably starts to slowly disintegrate.

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<v Speaker 7>For these things like murder, like stealing, They've become lessonless

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<v Speaker 7>to booth for you as time goes by.

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<v Speaker 3>Because you think you were different, do you think you're exceptional?

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<v Speaker 4>When the money didn't come. After Jared's death, EPD returned

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<v Speaker 4>to their old ways of haphazard, over zealous murder. While

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<v Speaker 4>some of epd's final victims were acquaintances and fellow members

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<v Speaker 4>of the Krugersdorp community, they were, ultimately, to Sicilia and Mirinda,

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<v Speaker 4>a means to an end, raw resources to be mined

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<v Speaker 4>in pursuit of a financial windfall. EPD now treated murder

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<v Speaker 4>as casually as a day at the office. Meanwhile, the

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<v Speaker 4>impact of their crimes shook Krugersdorp to its core, because

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<v Speaker 4>now anyone with a bank account was a potential target.

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<v Speaker 8>It could have been me and you. They were doing

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<v Speaker 8>regular jobs, showing up for appointment and they were killed.

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<v Speaker 4>From School of Humans and iHeart podcasts. This is Queen

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<v Speaker 4>Havoc and her murder cult. I'm your host, Kurt Kupachek,

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<v Speaker 4>Episode eight, Vile Hearts. If you've come this far with us,

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<v Speaker 4>you know this story is a bramble, a mess of

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<v Speaker 4>moving parts, a not that titans in the stomach and

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<v Speaker 4>won't let you rest until you've untied the narrative. There's

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<v Speaker 4>no way to tell this story without becoming sort of

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<v Speaker 4>consumed by it. Our colleague Jamaine Kriher warned us about

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<v Speaker 4>this actually while we were in South Africa.

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<v Speaker 9>Every time you think you understand what's happening, you realize

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<v Speaker 9>that you're wrong. If you let it, this is the

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<v Speaker 9>type of story that will absolutely take over your life

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<v Speaker 9>because I don't think there'll ever be an end to it.

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<v Speaker 9>I think every time you turn a corner there's something new.

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<v Speaker 4>Pulling at all these dark and twisted threads is heroin,

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<v Speaker 4>even for a seasoned journalist like Yanna Marx.

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<v Speaker 10>I had to work through every single piece of information

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<v Speaker 10>to be able to portray it accurately, and that meant

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<v Speaker 10>I had to like relive or try to put myself

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<v Speaker 10>there on the scene, try to relive through the dockets,

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<v Speaker 10>to photos, the different narratives, and yeah, I mean it

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<v Speaker 10>took quite at all.

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<v Speaker 8>And I will struggle to sleep. I would get bad

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<v Speaker 8>dreams because it was hard. It's hard stuff and if

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<v Speaker 8>you're close to something like that, I mean, I can

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<v Speaker 8>just imagine if that's what I went through, how it

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<v Speaker 8>must have been for the family members of these victims.

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<v Speaker 4>Between the whiffs of Satanism, the manipulation of Christianity, the

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<v Speaker 4>crooked cops, the slaughter of innocence, and the gross human

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<v Speaker 4>capacity for this level of brutality, this story took over

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<v Speaker 4>our lives too. It was quite a daunting challenge to

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<v Speaker 4>unravel truth from fiction, to detangle lies from hearsay and memory.

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<v Speaker 4>This long after the fact, there are pieces of this story,

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<v Speaker 4>details that we were forced to omit for the sake

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<v Speaker 4>of clarity, because, as Jamaine pointed out, every time you

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<v Speaker 4>turn a corner, there's a new perspective to consider. We've

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<v Speaker 4>done our best to dig for the truth and allowed

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<v Speaker 4>to become our compass. And the sad fact of this

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<v Speaker 4>moment is that Electus Perdais would seemingly stop at nothing

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<v Speaker 4>to satiate Cecilia's greed and lust for power. The appointment

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<v Speaker 4>murders continued in twenty sixteen. EPD believed they were above

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<v Speaker 4>the law, and so they struck close to home, taking

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<v Speaker 4>advantage of their actual neighbors. It was late summer in

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<v Speaker 4>the Southern Hemisphere when the murders began again, just after

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<v Speaker 4>the realization that the insurance money was not going to

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<v Speaker 4>hit their bank accounts for some time. On January twenty seventh,

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<v Speaker 4>twenty sixteen, EPD took aim at fifty seven year old

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<v Speaker 4>Glenn McGregor.

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<v Speaker 6>John Barnett used to lift opposite him actually knew exactly

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<v Speaker 6>where he was living.

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<v Speaker 4>McGregor wasn't rich, but he was a tax consultant that

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<v Speaker 4>qualified him. Surely he had money squirreled away somewhere. John

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<v Speaker 4>Barnard told his cohort what he apparently knew. For a fact,

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<v Speaker 4>McGregor didn't trust banks, so he must keep all his

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<v Speaker 4>money at home. Cecilia and Mirinda also knew McGregor. He

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<v Speaker 4>was a local. He lived just outside Krueger's Torp, but

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<v Speaker 4>his office was only a few blocks away from Cassana Flats.

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<v Speaker 4>John Barnard actually rented property from Glenn, and the group

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<v Speaker 4>had once teased Mirinda about Glenn being a potential mate.

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<v Speaker 4>Driving along the dusty streets of Krueger's Torp with Ben,

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<v Speaker 4>we passed MacGregor's office. The awning still eerily bears his name.

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<v Speaker 6>Now you see Wheeler MacGregor and Associates, and this was

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<v Speaker 6>his office.

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<v Speaker 4>Mirinda met McGregor at that same office, claiming she needed

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<v Speaker 4>tax advice. True to form, she talked him into a

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<v Speaker 4>business meeting later at his home. McGregor was surprised when

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<v Speaker 4>he opened the door to see Mirinda and her two

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<v Speaker 4>grown children standing there. She never said anything about bringing

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<v Speaker 4>her kids, but he graciously invited them in. They chatted

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<v Speaker 4>for about twenty minutes. It was friendly enough, some get

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<v Speaker 4>to know you chit chat. Then, without warning, Mirinda pulled

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<v Speaker 4>out a gun. She shoved it in McGregor's face. This

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<v Speaker 4>is a stick up, she shouted. MacGregor laughed loudly, but

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<v Speaker 4>then quickly froze once he realized this was no joke.

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<v Speaker 4>Marinda's face matched the flat, pallid expressions of her two children.

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<v Speaker 4>Their plan hold him at gunpoint, get his banking information,

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<v Speaker 4>drain his accounts, then strangle him. No gun meant no

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<v Speaker 4>ballistic evidence. Then they would leave just as they left

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<v Speaker 4>the other to be discovered by a loved one. But

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<v Speaker 4>as usual, things went awry. McGregor stood up, ready to

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<v Speaker 4>take on LaRue to fight for his life. McGregor was

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<v Speaker 4>a much bigger man than LaRue, so Marinda panicked. Fearing

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<v Speaker 4>for her son's life and the plan falling apart, she

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<v Speaker 4>fired her twenty two pistol, landing two bullets in McGregor's gut.

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<v Speaker 4>McGregor collapsed to the floor, LaRue bound his feet. Marcelle

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<v Speaker 4>got busy searching the house for cash. Mirinda bent down,

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<v Speaker 4>low her lips to his ear. She promised Glenn she'd

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<v Speaker 4>call an ambulance. In exchange for access to his banking

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<v Speaker 4>app Mirinda managed to transfer six thousand Rand about three

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<v Speaker 4>hundred and twenty US dollars into her bank account for cover.

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<v Speaker 4>She attached a memo to the transfer great Fuck. Once

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<v Speaker 4>the money was delivered, Marinda demanded that LaRue finish Glen

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<v Speaker 4>off with his rope. She nicknamed it his chokey chokie

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<v Speaker 4>after he had used it on Dearren Jackson. Before Mirinda

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<v Speaker 4>and her children fled their victims home, they slipped Glenn's

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<v Speaker 4>body into the bathtub and left him soaking in warm water.

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<v Speaker 4>Cecilia said it would throw off the coroner's estimated time

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<v Speaker 4>of death. That's where McGregor was discovered the next day.

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<v Speaker 4>That afternoon, on January twenty eighth, while Mirinda was teaching

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<v Speaker 4>her students English, Cecilia sent LaRue to the high school

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<v Speaker 4>to fetch Marinda's bank card so he could withdraw all

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<v Speaker 4>the money from McGregor and hand it over immediately. Cecilia

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<v Speaker 4>wanted to keep all the money in her own hands.

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<v Speaker 4>Confident they'd got and away with yet another murder, the

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<v Speaker 4>members of EPD subsisted for the next few months on

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<v Speaker 4>what little they'd robbed from McGregor. That paltry sum a

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<v Speaker 4>mere three hundred bucks, was why Glenn McGregor had to die.

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<v Speaker 4>His life was worth two months of time for Zach Valentine.

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<v Speaker 4>Soon enough, Cecilia decided they needed a bigger score, which

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<v Speaker 4>meant they needed to kill again. In less than a month,

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<v Speaker 4>between May tenth and May thirty first of twenty sixteen,

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<v Speaker 4>they committed three more murders. Maritzka Cootsaer was a respected

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<v Speaker 4>local crime reporter at the time, and covered the next

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<v Speaker 4>murder of Anthony.

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<v Speaker 3>Scholfield to us, the first murder felt like Anthony Scholfield

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<v Speaker 3>because that's actually when it started falling a botch.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, here's Colonel Christelle Boisen who spoke to Anthony's wife.

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<v Speaker 2>This was like the pilot murder for them, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>trying out a pilot plan and if this works, we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to do it again. And surely they did it

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<v Speaker 2>again with the two other murders that followed after.

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<v Speaker 4>Other than the Myers and McGregor, all the appointment murders

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<v Speaker 4>took place in Kruger's door proper. In fact, the remaining

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<v Speaker 4>three murders would all be carried out inside Mirinda's own

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<v Speaker 4>apartment at Casana Flats.

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<v Speaker 6>Playing with Marinda was John Barnat and LaRue. Marcel stayed

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<v Speaker 6>with Cecilia downstairs. Marinda stayed in the living room and

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<v Speaker 6>that's where they killed, and she was sleeping d every

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<v Speaker 6>night after the Quler.

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<v Speaker 4>On May tenth, twenty sixteen, Anthony Schofield, a financial broker

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<v Speaker 4>that Marenda had worked with in the past, got a call. LaRue,

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<v Speaker 4>using a fake name and a cheap SIM card, set

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<v Speaker 4>the appointment through Schofield's wife and bookkeeper, Heather. They were

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<v Speaker 4>to meet their prospective client at key West, a shopping

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<v Speaker 4>center and krugers Dorp. Here's Colonel Christelle Boison, who spoke

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<v Speaker 4>to Anthony's wife.

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<v Speaker 2>Mister Sheffield, informed us that on the day of the murder,

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<v Speaker 2>she was actually packing the caravan because her and a

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<v Speaker 2>husband would have gone on this long camping trip on

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<v Speaker 2>the first one that they've taken for a very long while,

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<v Speaker 2>and Shelfield was just attending his last appointment before they

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<v Speaker 2>would have left for the Strip. He did leave, but

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<v Speaker 2>he never came back.

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<v Speaker 4>LaRue called Schofield right at their meeting time six o'clock,

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<v Speaker 4>saying he had a crisis. He asked if Schofield could

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<v Speaker 4>come to his place for the meeting instead, the address

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<v Speaker 4>seventeen Cassana. Schofield obliged and was surprised when he arrived

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<v Speaker 4>in saw Marinda there. Good grief, you live here too,

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<v Speaker 4>he said. They acted fast, holding him at gunpoint a

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<v Speaker 4>thirty eight special this time until he handed over his

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<v Speaker 4>bank card and pin into ordered Marcel and John Barnard

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<v Speaker 4>to go to the ATM down the street and make

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<v Speaker 4>sure the pin number worked. Cash in hand, they headed back.

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<v Speaker 4>Schofield was dead by the time they returned, John and

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<v Speaker 4>LaRue wrapped his body in a black plastic bag and

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<v Speaker 4>carried it down the stairs, grabbing his car keys on

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<v Speaker 4>the way out. They placed the body in his trunk

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<v Speaker 4>or the boot as they call it, and abandoned his

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<v Speaker 4>Honda a few streets away, leaving the keys in the ignition,

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<v Speaker 4>hoping that a desperate person might steal the car with

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<v Speaker 4>the body in it. Maritzka coats there recalls the day

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<v Speaker 4>law enforcement found his body.

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<v Speaker 3>Anthony Schorefield was murdered. It was my first off day

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<v Speaker 3>in months. So my contact, you know, she sends men Macy.

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<v Speaker 3>She's like, listen here an elderly man murdered, found in

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<v Speaker 3>his boot. You know you need to write the story.

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<v Speaker 4>Tired but committed to her work, Maritzka drove to the

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<v Speaker 4>scene first.

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<v Speaker 3>Time, pissed off because it's my off days, but out

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<v Speaker 3>of curiosity, I drove to the school where his body

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<v Speaker 3>was found. Tried to see if I could find anything.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, because when you write as a journalist, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you get familiar with your community, You get familiar with

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<v Speaker 3>the crimes, You start understanding things.

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<v Speaker 4>Although Krueger's door had a lot of crime, this one

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<v Speaker 4>felt bizarre.

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<v Speaker 3>So it immediately stood out to me because obviously I

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<v Speaker 3>was writing crime a lot, so I knew which stop

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<v Speaker 3>of crime happened in what area. And this was really

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<v Speaker 3>a weird crime. You know, who does this? You know,

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<v Speaker 3>kill someone, leaves them in their boot, leaves the keys

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<v Speaker 3>in the car, and I mean this was introducedov North.

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<v Speaker 4>Over the next few days, the killers went back and

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<v Speaker 4>withdrew the daily maximum allowance until the card was eventually canceled.

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<v Speaker 6>And then just around the corner is which Eddy after

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<v Speaker 6>they killed him, they came here and they bought meat

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<v Speaker 6>from this place to have a party.

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<v Speaker 4>LaRue used him share to pick something up from Marcel.

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<v Speaker 6>Luru bought some Houdis for im and his sister a

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<v Speaker 6>disk shop. Yah, And that's all of Skullfield's money.

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<v Speaker 4>This was epd's biggest score, only providing them with about

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<v Speaker 4>sixteen thousand, six hundred rand, still only about eight hundred

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<v Speaker 4>and seventy five US dollars, all going directly to Cecilia.

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<v Speaker 4>This would be their pattern moving forward. The ease and

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<v Speaker 4>immediacy of it appealed to Cecilia. Two would hold the

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<v Speaker 4>victim at gunpoint, while others would go to the ATM

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<v Speaker 4>and drain their accounts. Then their victim would be killed,

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<v Speaker 4>their body disappeared, human lives disposed of with barely his

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<v Speaker 4>second thought. Luckily, for the people of Krugersdorp, money leaves

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<v Speaker 4>a trail. On May twenty sixth, about two weeks after

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<v Speaker 4>Schofield's life was taken, the body of a young man,

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<v Speaker 4>Kevin McAlpine, was discovered in one of Kruegersdorp's most dangerous neighborhoods.

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<v Speaker 4>Kevin was also a financial advisor. Only twenty nine years old,

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<v Speaker 4>he'd recently celebrated his first wedding anniversary. His wife, Keziah,

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<v Speaker 4>was seven months pregnant. Kevin had been actively looking for

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<v Speaker 4>a new job as well, making a career change before

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<v Speaker 4>becoming a father. He promised Kezia that this would be

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<v Speaker 4>his last appointment for a while. They couldn't say no

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<v Speaker 4>to a potential client. Here's Christell again.

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<v Speaker 2>McAlpine wasn't supposed to attend the appointment that first found

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<v Speaker 2>another broker, but he's not working in that business anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>But he has a friend that would appreciate their business,

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<v Speaker 2>and he then, not knowing, is sending someone else to

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<v Speaker 2>his death, passed the appointment on to Mac Alpine.

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<v Speaker 4>Unfortunately, he crossed paths with Queen Havoc's band of wayward huntsman.

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<v Speaker 3>When Kevin was murdered, that was the turning point, the

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<v Speaker 3>first turning point.

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<v Speaker 4>Meritzka was called to the scene that night as well.

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<v Speaker 3>It's eleven o'clock at night. I'm sleeping. My phone rings.

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<v Speaker 3>My contact says, hey, pop up, Stone up ons it alike,

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<v Speaker 3>So that roughly translates to hey, girl, get up, we've

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<v Speaker 3>got a body.

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<v Speaker 4>She makes her way there. A large crowd surrounds Kevin's

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<v Speaker 4>open trunk.

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<v Speaker 3>So now I think to myself, oh fucking know. Now

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna get you chased off the scene, because usually

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<v Speaker 3>that's what happens, you know, the family they don't want

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<v Speaker 3>the journalist day.

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<v Speaker 4>But then she's approached by someone.

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<v Speaker 3>So now this man comes. He isn't tears, and he

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<v Speaker 3>says to me, Marisco, thank goodness you are here. Now

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, how does this man know my name? And

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<v Speaker 3>he grabs me and he's crying, and he says, it's

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<v Speaker 3>Kevin in the boots, even in the boot.

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<v Speaker 4>Confused but present, Maritska tries to make sense of this.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, now I know the victim's name. But it still

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<v Speaker 3>didn't add up. And then he said, what will you

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<v Speaker 3>are Nates say about that? So you are Nita Skeavin's mother,

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<v Speaker 3>I swear to you, know, like they say when it

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<v Speaker 3>feels like a brick walls fall on you. It was

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<v Speaker 3>that moment because then I realized that I knew that

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<v Speaker 3>person in that boot, you know, like it was the

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<v Speaker 3>most bizarre feeling in the world.

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<v Speaker 4>Maritzka is a well known journalist who, like Yanna and Ben,

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<v Speaker 4>wrote a book on the Kruger Store of Killings. It's

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<v Speaker 4>called Outcast. Over the course of her reporting, she became

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<v Speaker 4>a close confidant to LaRue more on that soon. She's

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<v Speaker 4>a warm presence. She has an infectious laugh and vibrant energy,

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<v Speaker 4>and this spade of murders had become personal for her,

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<v Speaker 4>too close for comfort.

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<v Speaker 3>You get so used to writing about people you don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>writing nice stories, sad stories you know, but you don't

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<v Speaker 3>often get to write about you old mother's base friends. Son.

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<v Speaker 4>Epd's next victim was discovered four days later, on May thirtieth,

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<v Speaker 4>twenty sixteen, a woman, this time breaking epd'sm just slightly.

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<v Speaker 3>The next murder was Hanley Lauterogan.

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<v Speaker 4>Mirinda had made an appointment with Hanley Lattigan for three PM,

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<v Speaker 4>claiming she was looking to purchase a new home and

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<v Speaker 4>she had one favor to ask, though Mirinda said her

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<v Speaker 4>car was in the shop and asked Hanley if she

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<v Speaker 4>could swing by and pick her up on the way

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<v Speaker 4>to the house. The morning of May thirty first, twenty sixteen,

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<v Speaker 4>was the last time Hanley's husband saw her alive. She

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<v Speaker 4>was fifty two years old. Ritzka didn't know Honley personally,

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<v Speaker 4>but Kevin McAlpine's sister did.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember the night when she went missing. Kavin's sister

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<v Speaker 3>actually sent me a message on ficebook saying, Marisco, look

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<v Speaker 3>what's going on on? You must help them. It's busy

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<v Speaker 3>happening again.

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<v Speaker 4>While Mirinda held Honley lot again at gunpoint, Honley had

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<v Speaker 4>cleverly managed to transfer the large sum to her husband,

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<v Speaker 4>knowing this would trigger an alert on his phone, which

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<v Speaker 4>it did. Soon after, the husband also received a phone

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<v Speaker 4>call from Honley's colleague wondering why she hadn't shown up

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<v Speaker 4>at the house she was supposed to be showing to Mirinda.

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<v Speaker 4>Her husband made a frantic call to authorities, and a

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<v Speaker 4>search party began. Tragically, it was too late for Honley.

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<v Speaker 6>School to them. That was on the way to school

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<v Speaker 6>founded the next morning next to the right.

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<v Speaker 4>I must admit it's a bit nauseating to tick through

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<v Speaker 4>these murders so quickly. The weight of these tragic events

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<v Speaker 4>is not lost on us. Our aim here is to

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<v Speaker 4>avoid walking you through too much more brutality and refocus

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<v Speaker 4>our lens on the light at the end of the tunnel.

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<v Speaker 6>This is not Kruguzdop police area. This is the Antantine

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<v Speaker 6>policing area. So they will open the kaise yeah, and

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<v Speaker 6>the cases will not be linked to Kruguzdolt.

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<v Speaker 4>Hanley's body was found dumped in Randfontein. That's another interesting

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<v Speaker 4>break in epd's pattern. Randfontaine is the next town over

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<v Speaker 4>from Krugersdorp, but technically falls in another district covered by

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<v Speaker 4>another police force. Sicili and Morinda were now fully relying

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<v Speaker 4>on sloppy police work and their inside connections to get

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<v Speaker 4>away with literal murder. But the day after Hanley's murder

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<v Speaker 4>June one, twenty sixteen, Brigadier Many Victor walked into the

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<v Speaker 4>krugersdor police station. Three rapid fire murders had taken place,

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<v Speaker 4>and the citizens of Krugersdorp were outraged. Brigadier Many Victor

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<v Speaker 4>was already a veteran officer by then and was no

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<v Speaker 4>for his work in intelligence. We spoke with him on

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<v Speaker 4>the ground in South Africa.

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<v Speaker 11>There was a huge outcry in the Kyugozstal community, people

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<v Speaker 11>thinking this a serial murderer on the loose. People were

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<v Speaker 11>marching to the police station and they were demanding actions

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<v Speaker 11>and so forth. So the day after the third murder,

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<v Speaker 11>which was Hardy lot I, walked into the Kyugozstal police station.

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<v Speaker 4>Brigadier Victor immediately began assembling a task team of highly

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<v Speaker 4>skilled investigators to help crack this high priority case. The

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<v Speaker 4>members of this task force referred to their operation as

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<v Speaker 4>the war room. This term implied to the public that

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<v Speaker 4>they were taking the situation seriously, treating the investigation with

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<v Speaker 4>the urgency and the severity it deserved.

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<v Speaker 8>When Moni came on board at that point, he was

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<v Speaker 8>the head of our crime intelligence and I mean they

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<v Speaker 8>were slacking and he had to war room. We all

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<v Speaker 8>different disciplines within the police came together and that's where

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<v Speaker 8>it actually realized, Okay, you know what, you have something,

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<v Speaker 8>I have something. I think to some things all connected

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<v Speaker 8>in some way.

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<v Speaker 4>Besides the obvious proximity of the murders and the signature

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<v Speaker 4>methods of kill and disposal, the Brigadier immediately noticed a

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<v Speaker 4>common trait among the latest victims of the kruger Storp

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<v Speaker 4>serial killings.

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<v Speaker 11>All of them were financial bocus. So the three murders

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<v Speaker 11>were linked in the Saints so that the target was

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<v Speaker 11>people that I used to working after. I was meeting

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<v Speaker 11>people and strange places, taking them to have discussions or

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<v Speaker 11>to cl so, whatever the case may be.

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<v Speaker 4>This made them perfect marks for EPD, just like you

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<v Speaker 4>were me. They were simply earning their scratch, making a living,

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<v Speaker 4>not knowing that they were scheduling appointments for their own demise.

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<v Speaker 4>The day Hanley went missing, her husband had alerted more

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<v Speaker 4>than just the police, He had the full support of

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<v Speaker 4>the local community. Here is Detective Vinen Vinter, who worked

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<v Speaker 4>within the Ranfontein district.

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<v Speaker 5>The night Honorly disappeared, I got a phone call from

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<v Speaker 5>a missing persons organization by the name of Pink Ladies.

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<v Speaker 5>We then liaised with Brigadier Mooni and the following morning

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<v Speaker 5>we got a message that a body was found in

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<v Speaker 5>the Renfuntin area.

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<v Speaker 4>Detective Vinter's commander at the time was Lieutenant Colonel Eric Krueger.

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<v Speaker 12>My station was then Rene Fontaine as a group commander.

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<v Speaker 4>Detective Krueger's expertise is in tracing suspects, so when he

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<v Speaker 4>noticed that other bodies had been found not so far away,

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<v Speaker 4>he contacted Brigadier Manny Victor, who then tapped the two

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<v Speaker 4>of them to become part of his war room effort.

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<v Speaker 4>There were new cops, now trustworthy ones, and they were communicating,

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<v Speaker 4>finally beginning to connect the dots.

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<v Speaker 5>The Brigadier then decided it would be best to get

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<v Speaker 5>a toss team up and running, since these guys is

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<v Speaker 5>on are being committed in a regular time frame.

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<v Speaker 4>While the two starting officers began digging for evidence, Brigadier

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<v Speaker 4>Victor continued to build his task team. He called the

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<v Speaker 4>most dogged cop that he knew.

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<v Speaker 6>You can't become a policeman for money because there is

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<v Speaker 6>no money in the police to look into victims' family's

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<v Speaker 6>eyes when as in the criminal degild tears coming out

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<v Speaker 6>of their eyes and hugging me and thanked me for

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<v Speaker 6>assisting to get justice. It's much higher than he is.

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<v Speaker 6>Slary that any person can can pay you. That's why

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<v Speaker 6>I became a cop.

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<v Speaker 4>The task team became a pack of bloodhounds, and Ben

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<v Speaker 4>Boysen was the top dog, leading their charge, closing in

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<v Speaker 4>on the devil's trail. Detective Ben Boysen spent most of

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<v Speaker 4>his adult life in Kruger's Tour. He was a member

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<v Speaker 4>of a special unit called the Hawks for many years.

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<v Speaker 4>It targets corruption and organized crime. Before he received the

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<v Speaker 4>call from Manny Victor, he already knew about the nameless

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<v Speaker 4>fear that stalked his town, and he watched his Facebook

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<v Speaker 4>became the new town square.

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<v Speaker 6>When the three appointments dealings happened in Kruguzdor, the people

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<v Speaker 6>went on Facebook and they say, yeh, this need to

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<v Speaker 6>stop now because all the people feared to get out

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<v Speaker 6>of the houses at night and stuff like that. And

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<v Speaker 6>somebody said on Facebook they wish they they can get

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<v Speaker 6>a good cope now to investigate this.

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<v Speaker 4>Despite Ben's calling to serve and protect, he still knew

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<v Speaker 4>what he would be up against should he get involved.

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<v Speaker 6>I wish I can do it, but sometimes you need

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<v Speaker 6>to watch what you wish for because it can come true.

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<v Speaker 4>On June sixth, Ben agreed to lead the sprawling Murder

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<v Speaker 4>investigation under one condition.

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<v Speaker 6>So I said, I will take over the investigation, but

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<v Speaker 6>I'll do it on my own.

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<v Speaker 4>Ben was under no illusions about what to expect from

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<v Speaker 4>local cops. He echoed a sentiment that we in the

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<v Speaker 4>US are unfortunately all too familiar with many overworked, underpaid,

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<v Speaker 4>and undertrained cops are punching the clock in a broken system.

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<v Speaker 6>Saving six seven cops out to seven or eight different

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<v Speaker 6>people to take statements and stuff. Some way, somebody is

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<v Speaker 6>going to do not mention stuff in a statement, and

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<v Speaker 6>you're going to lose your golden threat in the investigation.

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<v Speaker 4>I love that image. A golden thread, a through line,

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<v Speaker 4>a theme, a pattern, an m o Here's detective violent Winter.

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<v Speaker 5>We realized that certain other murders that was committed prior

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<v Speaker 5>at the same murders of Barandi, where people will will

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<v Speaker 5>be called for an appointment, and after the appointment I disappeared.

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<v Speaker 4>Thankfully, Ben had Manny's rock solid team of road tested

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<v Speaker 4>investigators helping him dig for evidence. Maybe in this case

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<v Speaker 4>they were the exception. But in order to keep hold

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<v Speaker 4>of that golden thread of his detective poison, did accept

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<v Speaker 4>the full weight of responsibility on this investigation, and he

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<v Speaker 4>knew he could rely on himself to see it through

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<v Speaker 4>or die trying. Meanwhile, laying low at Cassana Flats, Secilia

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<v Speaker 4>and Mirinda, with the help of John Barnard, planned their

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<v Speaker 4>next hit. More insurance, fraud, more murder, more Mayhem was

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<v Speaker 4>on the horizon for EPD, and Zach Valentine was still

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<v Speaker 4>in hiding. He had taken shelter with a Christian ministry

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<v Speaker 4>in a neighboring district. Cecilia was too blinded by her

0:30:05.760 --> 0:30:08.440
<v Speaker 4>lust for money and power to see what was coming.

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<v Speaker 4>The war she had waged against her fellow humans, the

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<v Speaker 4>spell she had cast on her followers was about to boomerang.

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<v Speaker 4>Just as Cecilia had taken down Rhea by attacking those

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<v Speaker 4>close to her, the police would infiltrate Cecilia's in her

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<v Speaker 4>circle and break the very people she had scared. In

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<v Speaker 4>the submission, as Detective Ben Boysen got acquainted with the

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<v Speaker 4>details of the killings, neither he nor the war room

0:30:39.080 --> 0:30:42.840
<v Speaker 4>officers had any idea how many murderers they were dealing with.

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<v Speaker 4>But then there was a breakthrough. Here's Detective Vinter.

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<v Speaker 5>Normally, when money east withdrawn from ATM over a certain amount,

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<v Speaker 5>the ATM will actually capture a photograph of you.

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<v Speaker 4>After trying angulating some cell phone data, the task team

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<v Speaker 4>had narrowed their search to focus on West Kruger's store.

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<v Speaker 4>They retrieved the CCTV footage from the ATMs that corresponded

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<v Speaker 4>with the three victims withdrawals around the time of their deaths.

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<v Speaker 4>The images were blurry, but the police could tell that

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<v Speaker 4>the suspects were young, possibly even teenagers. Then one of

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<v Speaker 4>HRT Kruger's sources pointed out that the suspects looked a

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<v Speaker 4>lot like Merinda Stein's kids, the same Arendu Stein that

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<v Speaker 4>had been brought in for questioning in the aftermath of

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<v Speaker 4>more than one homicide. Here's Detective Vinter, who was busy

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<v Speaker 4>in the war room.

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<v Speaker 5>We then did a social media profiling on them. We

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<v Speaker 5>were actually went in and had a look at the

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<v Speaker 5>relevant social media the facebooks with the other counts. Add

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<v Speaker 5>to actually obtaining all the photographs that can be used

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<v Speaker 5>for comparison purposes.

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<v Speaker 4>With not much more than blurry footage and a potential

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<v Speaker 4>social media photo comparison, detective Krueger took a field trip.

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<v Speaker 12>I just was curious to see what the two children

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<v Speaker 12>look like. You know, are they the same that I've

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<v Speaker 12>got on my video footage.

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<v Speaker 4>When he knocked on the door, burn the answered. Surprisingly,

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<v Speaker 4>she didn't seem alarmed or even averse to talking to him.

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<v Speaker 12>I didn't went to the flat that morning whom Miranda

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<v Speaker 12>was staying, and I interviewed, asked her about the children

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<v Speaker 12>and said, we're doing investigation. Did they mind to come

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<v Speaker 12>to the police station for photos. I was taking a

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<v Speaker 12>big chance because I know actually reason't for them to

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<v Speaker 12>come in.

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<v Speaker 4>He was stunned when his gambit actually paid off.

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<v Speaker 12>She found me about two o'clock that afternoon and sit

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<v Speaker 12>waiting for us at the police station. I couldn't believe it.

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<v Speaker 4>Marinda assumed the cops would never put together a legitimate

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<v Speaker 4>case against her or her children, or Cecilia or any

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<v Speaker 4>of the others. For years, local police failed to do

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<v Speaker 4>exactly that. Why would it be any different this time?

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<v Speaker 12>So they came in. Now what we called is a

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<v Speaker 12>controlled photo and an uncontrolled photo. The uncontrolled photo will

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<v Speaker 12>be the photo from the ATM, and the control one

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<v Speaker 12>will be when you asked him to stand in a

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<v Speaker 12>similar way that the photo on the video foot Teacher

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<v Speaker 12>look luck and they were very cooperative. I couldn't believe

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<v Speaker 12>myself it's actually happening.

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<v Speaker 4>The golden thread was starting to shine through the bramble.

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<v Speaker 4>On the day Hanley was murdered, Marcel received an acceptance

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<v Speaker 4>letter to medical school. Here's Detective Susette recalling the harsh

0:33:53.280 --> 0:33:57.040
<v Speaker 4>reality that Marcel was facing. She took out her frustrations

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<v Speaker 4>in her diary.

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<v Speaker 1>She was actually a very, very cleave a girl with

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<v Speaker 1>distinctions in all her subjects. And at the back of

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<v Speaker 1>this diary she wrote, in big letters, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>why my mother is doing this to me.

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<v Speaker 4>When Marinda heard that Marcel got into school, she flew

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<v Speaker 4>into her rage. Marcell pleaded with her mother, but Marinda

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<v Speaker 4>would hear nothing of it. When Marcel wouldn't let it go,

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<v Speaker 4>her mother threatened to get rid of her, just as

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<v Speaker 4>they had gotten rid of Mikayla. Here's Maritzka again.

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<v Speaker 3>And Laru told me straight up that Mikhayla's murder was

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<v Speaker 3>always the example. You know, I like to say that

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<v Speaker 3>the same can happen to you.

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<v Speaker 4>Marenda threatened LaRue as well when he resisted killing Hamley.

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<v Speaker 4>There was a lot of back and forth between Marinda

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<v Speaker 4>and Harmley while they negotiated money.

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<v Speaker 1>Out of her.

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<v Speaker 4>When it came time to end her life, LaRue begged

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<v Speaker 4>his mother not to make him do it.

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<v Speaker 2>He called Hanley a tenny, so that's like an auntie

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<v Speaker 2>and an elderly woman in Afrikaans, and he couldn't get

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<v Speaker 2>it off of his heart to kill at Tenny. And

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<v Speaker 2>then his mom actually turned the gun on him and says, listen,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're not going to kill her, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>kill you, and I'm going to kill her anyway.

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<v Speaker 4>LaRue later told Maritzka that Cecilia grew increasingly ruthless leading

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<v Speaker 4>up to the final appointment murder. By that point, EPD

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<v Speaker 4>had a kill list, which included LaRue's father. LaRue had

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<v Speaker 4>recently started to rebuild this relationship.

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<v Speaker 6>He was trying to convince his father he wants to

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<v Speaker 6>be part of his life again.

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<v Speaker 4>How did Cecilia respond. She told LaRue to take out

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<v Speaker 4>a life insurance policy, two in fact, one for his

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<v Speaker 4>father and one for himself. LaRue was now on high alert,

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<v Speaker 4>but he continued to follow orders and scheduled a fishing

0:35:50.239 --> 0:35:53.520
<v Speaker 4>trip with his estrange father. It happened to fall on

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<v Speaker 4>the day after Marinda brought her children in to be

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<v Speaker 4>photographed by the cops that morning. Placing worms on a hook,

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<v Speaker 4>Laru floated the life insurance policy idea to his father,

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<v Speaker 4>but this conversation would be interrupted.

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<v Speaker 6>That's why he was they when he was arrested, because

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<v Speaker 6>he was trying to convince his father that he can

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<v Speaker 6>take a policy out on his father's life.

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<v Speaker 4>On July twenty third, twenty sixteen, LaRue Stein was arrested.

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<v Speaker 4>He was sitting by a damn fishing with his father

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<v Speaker 4>when the police descended. LaRue was apprehended just outside a

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<v Speaker 4>krueger stor and handed over to Manny Victor's task team.

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<v Speaker 4>The prosecutor then charged the twenty year old with kidnapping, robbery,

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<v Speaker 4>and three counts of murder. Later that same day, police

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<v Speaker 4>busted down Merinda's door at Cassano Flats to arrest Marcel.

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<v Speaker 4>When they searched their belongings, they found a baseball cap

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<v Speaker 4>and dog PAGs that matched the ones I did in

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<v Speaker 4>the CCTV footage. As they rummaged through the apartment, one

0:37:11.160 --> 0:37:13.880
<v Speaker 4>of the arresting officers spied a pot plant on the

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<v Speaker 4>back porch. Marijuana was still illegal in South Africa at

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<v Speaker 4>the time. Since it was Merinda's home, they cuffed her

0:37:22.880 --> 0:37:26.680
<v Speaker 4>and threw her in the paddy wagon too. When questioned,

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<v Speaker 4>Marcel and LaRue obediently stuck to their rehearsed story. Detective

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<v Speaker 4>Ben Boysen says the police didn't really have much evidence

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<v Speaker 4>to go on.

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<v Speaker 6>The geis is that the police have against them is

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<v Speaker 6>only they wind and throw the money of the deceased

0:37:43.000 --> 0:37:49.360
<v Speaker 6>and Marcelle's explanation day off was that Brady got it

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<v Speaker 6>from the Nigerians and the Nigerians gave him the Panamas

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<v Speaker 6>and they will only was supposed to go and throw

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<v Speaker 6>the money for the Nigerians.

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<v Speaker 4>In South Africa, Nigerians is most often and unfortunate post

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<v Speaker 4>apart hide shorthand for drug dealers. In just three weeks time,

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<v Speaker 4>Manny Victor's War Room put Marinda, Marcel and LaRue all

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<v Speaker 4>behind bars, just in time to save the life of

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<v Speaker 4>a local doctor who is the next scheduled victim from

0:38:19.040 --> 0:38:24.640
<v Speaker 4>their ever growing kill list. This investigation might seem slow

0:38:25.280 --> 0:38:29.319
<v Speaker 4>given the CCTV footage, but this pace was impressive when

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<v Speaker 4>compared to the way cases were typically managed in American movies.

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<v Speaker 6>That they might you know, there's a murder and there's

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of cops investigating it and within African two

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<v Speaker 6>or three weeks, everybody's rated. And in South Africa doesn't

0:38:42.200 --> 0:38:46.359
<v Speaker 6>work like that. If you get a kiss, you investigated,

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<v Speaker 6>nobody else assisted you investigated.

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<v Speaker 4>Detective Ben Boysen is an old school type, a man

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<v Speaker 4>of service and honor. He's a cop because he had

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<v Speaker 4>a calling, and he's also the author of On the

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<v Speaker 4>Devil's Trail, How I hunted down the Kruger Store of Killers.

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<v Speaker 6>The biggest problem that most of the policemen do and

0:39:05.560 --> 0:39:09.200
<v Speaker 6>they investigate the crime where Sism is involved, and I

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<v Speaker 6>want to investigates.

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<v Speaker 11>Is not the crime.

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<v Speaker 6>It's a religion, so it's not against the Luan. So

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<v Speaker 6>you still need to focus on on the murder.

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<v Speaker 4>Unlike prior special investigators, Detective Ben Boysen wasn't the least

0:39:28.520 --> 0:39:32.239
<v Speaker 4>bit captivated by the sealacious. He had no time for

0:39:32.280 --> 0:39:36.520
<v Speaker 4>the supernatural. He came to solve crimes, not to speculate

0:39:36.560 --> 0:39:41.440
<v Speaker 4>about witches and blood drinkers. Ben Boisen was a dogged cop.

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<v Speaker 4>His heart was in it, fully committed to bringing justice

0:39:44.920 --> 0:39:49.480
<v Speaker 4>to the wronged and peace to the grieving. However, this

0:39:49.640 --> 0:39:54.520
<v Speaker 4>case would test even him. Mirinda would once again find

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<v Speaker 4>her way out of police custody, and the task team

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<v Speaker 4>would continue to search for the conductor of this cacophony,

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<v Speaker 4>Queen Havoc herself. This time, Mirinda and Cecilia had officially

0:40:07.040 --> 0:40:11.760
<v Speaker 4>met their match detected. Ben Boyson would not rest until

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<v Speaker 4>the killing ceased.

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<v Speaker 6>That is the school way Maranda used to teach. When

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<v Speaker 6>did she stop teaching when I arrested her.

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<v Speaker 4>On the next episode of Queen Havoc.

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<v Speaker 6>Le Rustaine made a confession.

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<v Speaker 8>They managed to id him as Zach Valentine.

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<v Speaker 6>For a young boy like that picking up a date

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<v Speaker 6>person and allowed him into a vehicle. It's totally not possible.

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<v Speaker 3>She wasn't involved in any actual killing.

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<v Speaker 6>She used the people to do it for her while

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<v Speaker 6>I was speaking to him in prison. I've got the

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<v Speaker 6>scenes that is predicting the people around him.

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<v Speaker 4>Queen Havoc and Her Murder Cult is a production of

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<v Speaker 4>Schooly Humans and iHeart Podcasts. Queen Havoc is hosted and

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<v Speaker 4>created by me Kurt Kupachick, produced and written by Jennifer Takeiny,

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<v Speaker 4>Julia Chriscau, and Kurt Kupachick. Lead producer is Julia Chriska.

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<v Speaker 4>Story editor is Saren Burnett. Senior producer is Amelia Brock.

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<v Speaker 4>Production manager is Daisy Church. Original music composed by Claire Campbell, Editing,

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<v Speaker 4>sound design and scoring by Jesse Niswanger, Additional editing by

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<v Speaker 4>Miranda Hawkins. Associate producers are DaShan Moodley and Jamaine Krier.

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<v Speaker 4>Additional producing by Ben Melman, fact checking by Dennis Webster.

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<v Speaker 4>Recording engineers are Graham Gibson, Clay Hillenberg and Josh Hook.

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<v Speaker 4>Executive producers are Virginia Prescott, L. C. Crowley, Brandon Barr,

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<v Speaker 4>Jennifer Takini and Kurt Kupachak. We want to thank all

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<v Speaker 4>of those who so generously welcomed us in South Africa

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<v Speaker 4>and shared their stories. We're incredibly grateful to you all.

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<v Speaker 4>We also want to acknowledge how traumatic these events are

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<v Speaker 4>for the victims and their families. Please respect their privacy.

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<v Speaker 4>If you or someone you know has been affected by

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<v Speaker 4>cult behaviors, there are resources available, including voices for Dignity

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<v Speaker 4>at Christine Murray dot com