1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Second hour of Clay and Buck gets 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: going right now. Thanks for being here with us. As 4 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: we said yesterday, as we were talking about the Tyree 5 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:16,959 Speaker 1: Nichols case, we have to look at law enforcement, we 6 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 1: have to look at the narrative around all this based 7 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:22,799 Speaker 1: on the facts and the data. We can't think of 8 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: anybody better to help us do that right now than 9 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: Heather McDonald. She is a senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute, 10 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: contributing editor at City Journal, author of The War on Cops, 11 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: and she just has a piece out now at the 12 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 1: Spectator Tyree. This is the title, Tyree Nichols and the 13 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:44,840 Speaker 1: New Black Cop White Supremacy. Thanks for being with us, Heather, 14 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,880 Speaker 1: as always appreciate it, such a pleasure to be with you. 15 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: Thank you so tell us, Heather, you know this piece. 16 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: You're getting right into it. We discussed this a bit 17 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: on the show Five Black Cops beat a Black men 18 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: to death. We all condemned it. It was excessive use 19 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: of force. It's quite obvious from the video, and there 20 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:08,119 Speaker 1: were a lot of people claiming white supremacy in the media. 21 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: What is this all about. It's about the fact that 22 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: racism is now an unfalsifiable proposition. The race industry is 23 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: not going to ever seed ground. They have now got 24 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: a new rule for racism, which is anything bad that 25 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 1: happens to a black person is a function of racism, 26 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: regardless of the intentions a race of the perpetrator. So 27 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: they've got it covered, and we have the tragedy of 28 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: the beating now becoming a farce. Given the reaction of 29 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 1: Benjamin Crump of the New York Times, of the race 30 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: activists of Joe Biden, eager as always to slot in 31 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: his favorite narrative about blacks being right to fear for 32 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: their lives every time they go outside their daily fear 33 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: and trauma. None of this is borne out by the facts. 34 00:01:56,440 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: Here's the facts. The police are the same years in 35 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: the black community. They are not the oppressors. When the 36 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: police back off, more black lives are taken. Black lives 37 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:11,399 Speaker 1: are taken by the dozens. Every single day. There are 38 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: dozens of blacks killed in homicide. That's more than all 39 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: white and Hispanic homicide victims combined, even though Blacks are 40 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: only thirteen percent of the population, and the people doing 41 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:29,519 Speaker 1: those killings of blacks are overwhelmingly other blacks. They are 42 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: not the police. In twenty twenty two, there were seven unarmed, 43 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: allegedly unarmed blacks killed by police officers in fatal shootings. 44 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: That's out of a homicide population. We don't know twenty 45 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 1: twenty two numbers yet, but in twenty twenty there were 46 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: ten thousand blacks killed in homicide. There's forty four million 47 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: blacks in the country. Compare that to seven unarmed, allegedly 48 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 1: unarmed blacks killed by the police. That is not the 49 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: problem in the black community. Criminals are, Heather. One of 50 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: the conversations, first of all, thanks for coming on. You 51 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: do fantastic work looking at the data and analyzing it 52 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: from a policing perspective. One of the conversations Buck and 53 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: I were having yesterday, and I think it's one that 54 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 1: certainly the nation needs to have, is how difficult it 55 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: is becoming to recruit police who want to be willing 56 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: to do this job, given the amount of peril that 57 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: they're under, the increasing numbers of police that have been 58 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 1: killed in the past several years, but also the just 59 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: absolute disrespect that they receive in many parts of the country. Now, 60 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: How difficult. Is it becoming to recruit police and how 61 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: is that going to make their job that much more difficult, 62 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: not only in terms of the people doing the job, 63 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: but also in terms of the relationships that they have 64 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: to develop. Well, you're absolutely right to take this beyond 65 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: just the recruitment and retention crisis, but let's look at that. 66 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: It is an absolute catastrophe. There is no I don't 67 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: know of a single police department that is doing well 68 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: at this point post George Floyd, the narrative that became 69 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: decibel level high after Michael brown phony narrative about hands up, 70 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: Don't Shoot, and the Ferguson effect of cops de policing 71 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: and criminals getting emboldened. After George Floyd race riots, you 72 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 1: had every mainstream institution in this country, banks, corporations, universities, 73 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 1: press all declaring that the criminal justice system was systemically racist. 74 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: America was systemically racist, of course, but above all it 75 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 1: was the cops. And this is not an encouraging thing 76 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: to hear. If you're thinking about joining a police force. 77 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 1: There's no other profession. From day one on the job, 78 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:46,559 Speaker 1: the elite assumption is that you are a racist. So 79 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: we have attrition at enormously high rates in impossibility to recruit, 80 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: and as you say, from an officer's perspective, when there 81 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 1: are not enough job people to help you out, you 82 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 1: don't have backup. If you're facing an armed, violent, resisting suspect, 83 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: there may be nobody available for the dispatcher to call 84 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: to help you out. That's going to make you less likely, 85 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: quite appropriately understandably, to engage in discretionary proactive policing. If 86 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: you see somebody on a corner at two am hitching 87 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: up his waistband as if he has a gun, you 88 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 1: don't have to make that stop because there has not 89 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 1: been a crime yet. But if you're a good proactive 90 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 1: cop trying to protect that community from yet another retaliatory 91 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: gang shooting, you should get out of your car and 92 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: ask a few questions. But if you know that your 93 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 1: department is way abusing, overtime is stretched, that there are 94 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 1: no patrol cars available, you're going to drive on buy 95 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: because you don't want to get in a potentially lethal 96 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: confrontation with somebody. And the problem as well, we now 97 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 1: have a perfect storm where we are desperate to recruit 98 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: at the same time that the pressure has been on 99 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: for years to recruit on the basis of race to 100 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: have race trump merit. And what happens when that is 101 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 1: the case and departments lower educational and cognitive standards and 102 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: they lower the requirements of a clean criminal background check 103 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 1: in order to broaden the pool of potentially qualifiable recruits. 104 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: You get corruption scandals, and you get more excessive force. 105 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: But that will probably continue. You know now that we 106 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 1: have the theme that, well, blacks are white supremacists, but 107 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: the issue is black victims, black victims, flock ristims. Even 108 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: though we've now decided that black cops are racist too. 109 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 1: I can guarantee you that the response to this terrible, 110 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: terrible beating will be both de policing and an increase 111 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: push for diversity hiring. We're speaking to Heather McDonald. She's 112 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: got a piece that we've linked up at klanbuck dot com, 113 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: Tyree Nichols and the New Black Cop White Supremacy. She 114 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: also has a book coming out, When Race Trump's Merit, 115 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: How the pursuit of equity sacrifices excellence, destroys beauty, and 116 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: threatens lives. Heather, are we seeing based on the response 117 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: that is occurring in cities now, not at all, but 118 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: in some our Democrats at the point, because let's be honest, 119 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: it's Democrats who run these cities, whether it's Memphis or 120 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: LA or New York. Are they at the point where 121 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: they're starting to have to bow to the reality of 122 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: facts when it comes to policing and move more toward 123 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: a rational approach or have you have you just seen 124 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: the activists continue to get their way. I mean, where's 125 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: the momentum. Well after this beating, I hear in renewed 126 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: calls for abolition. But you know, I think the conservatives 127 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: were wrong strategically. They put too much emphasis initially on 128 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: def and the actual word itself. They're in fact, were 129 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 1: very few Democratic politicians who are actually calling for defunding 130 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: or dismantling police departments. And Biden could rightly say, oh, well, 131 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: look at I've put funding in my you know, George 132 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: Floyd Bill or whatever form more cop hiring, at the 133 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: same time that his rhetoric makes it virtually impossible that 134 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: that funding will be taken up for cop hiring, because 135 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: nobody wants to join a profession where the president tells 136 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: you that you're praying on black children every single day. 137 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 1: So I don't know, I'm there's a lot of division 138 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: I know in conservative ranks about how to read the 139 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: midterm elections. I, as a pessimist by nature, do not 140 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 1: think that the midterm elections showed that the country is 141 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 1: ready to say, you know what, the police are the solution, 142 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: They're not the problem. So we haven't suffered enough, basically, Heather, 143 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: we haven't suffered enough. That's where we are. Not enough, Heather, 144 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: I think this is not getting enough attention. And I'm 145 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: sure that you know the latest numbers and the trend lines. 146 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: Police are being murdered killed on the job in massively 147 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: increasing numbers over the last three or four years. How 148 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: prevalent is that becoming? And what does the statistical data 149 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 1: reflect that not only are cops being disrespected more by citizens, 150 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: that's leading directly to more cops dying on the job. Oh, 151 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: it certainly is. I mean, in last year there were 152 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: seventy three cops that were murdered. That was a massive jump. 153 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 1: And when you do it on a per capita basis, 154 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: looking at those seventy three murdered cops compared to a 155 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: police force nationally of about under seven hundred thousand officers, 156 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 1: and you compare that to the number of unarmed blacks 157 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 1: who were killed by cops, and traditionally, blackmails have made 158 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,199 Speaker 1: up forty two percent of all cop killers nationwide, even 159 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 1: the other six percent of the population. A police officer 160 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:09,839 Speaker 1: is four hundred times as likely to be killed by 161 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:11,959 Speaker 1: a black male as an unarmed black is to be 162 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 1: killed by a police officer. People are resisting arrest, and 163 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: of course, every time you demonize the cops, as we're 164 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 1: doing now, you're going to increase hatred, resentment, tensions in 165 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:27,319 Speaker 1: the community and resisting arrest, and that puts officers lives 166 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: at danger in danger. And when you de legitimate the 167 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: policing profession and the criminal justice system more generally, as 168 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: Biden did both before and after the release of the 169 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: Tyree Nichols videos, saying well, you know, we still don't 170 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:45,199 Speaker 1: we have a criminal justice system that refuses to meet 171 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: out fair treatment that those words have very very serious consequences. 172 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: People approach interactions with hostility, they are less inclined to 173 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: obey lawful orders. We could end virtually all cop killings tomorrow, 174 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: that is, officer involved killings when the officers shoots a civilian. 175 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: If people complied with commands and did not resist arrest. Now, 176 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 1: I'm sympathetic to Tyree Nichols taking off at this point, 177 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: although we do not have the full tapes. Perhaps he 178 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 1: was violently resisting arrest before trying to grab a gun. 179 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: This well may be true because there are parts of 180 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: the videos we have not seen, but from what we see, 181 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: I actually feel sorry for the guy, and I understand 182 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: him taking off and running. But as a general matter, 183 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: if the cop tells you to do something, you follow 184 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: commands and you will not be shot or roughed up period. 185 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: I'm glad you're bringing that up heat here because that 186 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 1: is what I tell my kids, and that's what I 187 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: would encourage everybody out there listening who has kids and grandkids. Look, 188 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: if you believe your constitutional rights are being violated by 189 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:59,599 Speaker 1: a police officer, you have time to challenge that in 190 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: the court. Comply with their initial demands as best you 191 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: can do. Not accelerate the intensity of that of that 192 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: violence by not complying. I wish everyone in America would 193 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: share that message with their kids and their grandkids. And 194 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: I say kids and grandkids because by and large, young 195 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 1: men are the ones that are getting in trouble for 196 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 1: violent acts and are creating and acting violently either. So 197 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 1: I'm glad that you're pointing that out. Didn't you think that, 198 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: based on what we've seen so far of the Tyree 199 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 1: Nichols video, that it was actually far worse than the 200 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: George Floyd video. Oh? Absolutely, I mean, this was deliberate 201 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: aggression and it was also I mean, the tactics are 202 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: just abysmal these guys. It makes the Keystone cops look 203 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:56,319 Speaker 1: like they're a you know, finally tuned cored to ballet 204 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: with balishnikov or something. It is just that trumps. I 205 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: don't know if these cops were from the start incapable 206 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: of absorbing training, or if they simply don't have decent 207 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: training in Memphis. They clearly need training and controlling stress. 208 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 1: But yes they are. They are what appears to be 209 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: And again we do not know the context. We do 210 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 1: not know whether he was high on drugs, We don't 211 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: even have a proper autopsy. But it appears to be 212 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 1: gratuitous use of force, and Chauvin was stolid and impassive. 213 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: There's many police officers who will tell you that the 214 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: hold he was using was in fact legitimate under Minneapolis rules, 215 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:47,439 Speaker 1: but this was something far beyond that, and I've also 216 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: had officers tell me that it looks like they are 217 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 1: all reluctant to get down on the ground with him 218 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: and use, say their need to restrain him as we 219 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: saw with Chauvin and standing over him and administering these 220 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: completely feckless blows. Somebody has suggested that that may also 221 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:11,599 Speaker 1: be one of the usual unintended consequences of our overreaction 222 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: to the Chauvin killing, and now maybe people are not 223 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: willing to get down and use legitimate tactics and our 224 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: stead resorting to the blows and the batons and the kicks. 225 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: Heather McDonald, keep up the fantastic work. We appreciate you 226 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: given the time to us today. Encourage everybody to check 227 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: out her work. You can find more about Heather on 228 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: Clay and Buck dot com. Heather, thank you so much, 229 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: such an honor claim. Buck, Thank you so much. Thank you. 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Learn and Last Weekdays with 259 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Welcome back in Play Travis 260 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show. They have officially completed the search of 261 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: Joe Biden's Rohoba Beach, Delaware beach house that happened three 262 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: months after the initial discovery of classified documents. Reports are 263 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: that they did not find any more classified documents there, 264 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: so you had what basically three months, Buck for them 265 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: to search that house move out anything that might have 266 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 1: been there. There have not been reports that they found 267 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: anything at the beach house, but that report is out there. 268 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: They searched it. If you did not hear us open 269 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 1: the show, the FBI went in to search there, just 270 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 1: like they searched at the Penn Biden Center in concert. However, 271 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: with Joe Biden not under a warrant as they wanted 272 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: to make a big deal and probably not surprisingly Buck, 273 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:20,360 Speaker 1: three months later, they did not find anything there. This 274 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: is I guess good news for Biden. And as I 275 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: was clearly and as I was saying before they're just 276 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 1: going to try to run this thing out before people 277 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: are really thinking about the election, because I think that 278 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: they're committed to Biden. I think that the Democrats recognize 279 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 1: to bail on an incumbent is to give up such 280 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: a huge advantage, irrespective of who the candidate is. I mean, 281 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 1: you look at it. When was the last time that 282 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: you know, you had somebody in Biden's position replaced by 283 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:56,160 Speaker 1: his own party? There they go. You gotta go way 284 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: back for that to be the case. 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You know the town of Ellis Island, 310 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: as Eric Adams reference there, no one had got off 311 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: of that boat said inside is worse than outside, right, 312 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 1: or food is worse than no food. Those are your options. 313 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: You legally do not belong here, at least at this point. 314 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: I hope you will get a pathway to citizenship. I 315 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:28,159 Speaker 1: hope that you will be a great contributor to the 316 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 1: New York economy. And then to the greater United States economy. 317 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 1: But at this particular moment, you're here by the grace 318 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 1: of our generosity, and to act like that is terrible. 319 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: So that's Jessica Guitar lav on Fox. She's a Democrat 320 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: and she recognizes, because I think everybody who's being honest 321 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: recognizes this migrant situation in New York City is a 322 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 1: disaster for the open borders advocates and the pro illegal 323 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: immigration on profit groups out there, the hard left of 324 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 1: the Democrat Party. Let me just update everybody to where 325 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:10,400 Speaker 1: we are. We mentioned this story yesterday that, by the way, 326 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: the reports are that the hotel that they were in 327 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: Clay is actually a four hundred and fifty dollars a 328 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 1: night hotel. So it may just cut you off there 329 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: for a second. How many people listening to us right 330 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: now have ever stayed in a four hundred and fifty 331 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:29,439 Speaker 1: dollars or night hotel room in their lives. I bet 332 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: it's like ten percent. I want to point out that 333 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: the activists and protesters, left wing activists, and these illegal immigrants, okay, 334 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: they do not have a right to be in this country. 335 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 1: They entered they all entered the country illegally and now 336 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: they're trying to play games with and I'll get into 337 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 1: this in a second, because it goes to the very 338 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 1: heart of this issue, trying to play games with our 339 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: system and with our generosity, and it's gross, it's wrong 340 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:57,959 Speaker 1: what's going on here, and people are really seeing this. 341 00:20:58,160 --> 00:20:59,919 Speaker 1: First of all, these are you have all these videos 342 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 1: is able bodied males, you know, guys in their twenties 343 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: and thirties, who are who are saying we need this 344 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 1: free not just free housing, free luxury hotel in the 345 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,439 Speaker 1: middle of New York City. Play now they're demanding for 346 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 1: this is you can't make this stuff up. They're saying 347 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: the facility they're supposed to be moved to, which is 348 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 1: a government facility in Brooklyn full of Brooklyn's like the 349 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:25,479 Speaker 1: most lib place you'll ever find in the country, by 350 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: the way, and they're trying to move them to Brooklyn, 351 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: and they're saying the beds are uncomfortable there, and they 352 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 1: think it's they think it's a little too cold in 353 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: the facility, so the beds are too hard for them, 354 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 1: and the facility isn't as inviting as the five hundred 355 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: dollars a night hotel that they've been staying in in Midtown. 356 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 1: You know, no crap, right, Like, we all can figure 357 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: this one out. And I think some of them are 358 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 1: starting to process this. Oh, this isn't just making us 359 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:59,919 Speaker 1: look deeply ungrateful to the American people, which they are. 360 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 1: It also raises an enormous issue here. I hold on 361 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:09,120 Speaker 1: a second, Clay, these are asylum seekers. Asylum is supposed 362 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: to be. You know, I fled this country and I'm 363 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: here to America. If you send me back, I will 364 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: be tortured and murdered. That is what asylum is for. Okay, 365 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 1: Asylum is not. Yeah, I like your welfare state and 366 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 1: your jobs Market's pretty cool. That's immigration. We have a 367 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 1: line for that, we have a process for that. They're 368 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: claiming to be asylum seekers who are fleeing violence. Their 369 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 1: very lives are at risk. And the moment they're actually 370 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: shown what's going on in Manhattan and the taxpayers large s, 371 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 1: it turns around to no, you have to give us vouchers. 372 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,160 Speaker 1: You have to move money from the police budget, which 373 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 1: is the demand to give us vouchers for permanent housing, 374 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: pay for our fancy homes. I don't think they were 375 00:22:55,119 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 1: fleeing violence, Clay. The American people have been had. It's unacceptable, 376 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 1: and just put this into perspective of your own life. 377 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: Imagine if you went to a different country today. Imagine 378 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: if you went into Mexico penniless and poor and they 379 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: put you in one of the fanciest hotels in one 380 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 1: of the best cities in that entire country, and then 381 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,719 Speaker 1: you complain because they moved you to a new hotel 382 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 1: because the bed wasn't comfortable enough for you. This is crazy, 383 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 1: And again it goes to what we were talking about yesterday. Incentives, 384 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: incentives govern individual decisions, and the incentives in the United 385 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: States immigration are all aligned with people who are non natives. 386 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 1: So if you come to this country, you get taken 387 00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: care of way better by and large, and you can 388 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 1: just live in other countries. So it's not a surprise 389 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 1: that people come here. And then it's amazing how quickly 390 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: these people become entitled that they're feeling comfortable complaining about 391 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,959 Speaker 1: the quality of the beds and the temperature in the 392 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,679 Speaker 1: place where they are staying, when they are getting to 393 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: stay there for free on your end, minds, taxpayer dollars. 394 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 1: It's one thing to be frustrated about the Social security apparatus, 395 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 1: right the welfare state. When we are supporting people who 396 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: are American citizens, that can be frustrating. I think the 397 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 1: tax code is way too generous to people who don't 398 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:44,640 Speaker 1: want to work. My personal opinion, it's infuriating on a 399 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 1: different level when our tax system is far too generous 400 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 1: to people who aren't even citizens of the United States. 401 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 1: Buck so even Democrats, I think, look at this, and 402 00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: there's a bunch of Democrats I bet listening to us 403 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: right now who have come over to this show because 404 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: they are frustrated with the policy. In fact, when you 405 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 1: look at every single administrative action of the Biden administration, 406 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: Buck overwhelmingly the area that Biden and He's touched a 407 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: lot of things and made it worse, the area that 408 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 1: he pulls the worst on immigration and our border. It's 409 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 1: an abject failure no matter what your political leanings are, 410 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: and every single thing we do provides incentives to make 411 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 1: it worse. Remember, the mayor of New York City has 412 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: been saying these illegal migrants are costing the city too 413 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,199 Speaker 1: much money. They've also got the problem a lot of 414 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,160 Speaker 1: high income, high earning New Yorkers have left and become 415 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 1: other They've become Tennesseeans and Texans and Floridians and mostly those, 416 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 1: but a few a few other states. No state income tax. 417 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 1: There By the way, if you're out there listening to 418 00:25:57,960 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: us right now and you are frustrated with your tax, 419 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 1: his buck, it makes a big difference to have no 420 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 1: state income tax. You know, I gotta say, I love 421 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 1: South Carolina and Georgia as places to visit. They gotta 422 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 1: get to zero state income tax. It's crazy. I think 423 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,360 Speaker 1: it's five points something percent in South Carolina. I don't 424 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:16,920 Speaker 1: know what it is in Georgia. It might be about 425 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: the same that they're missing out. There's a gold rush 426 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:25,120 Speaker 1: of happy taxpayers right now who have moved to those 427 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 1: states we just mentioned, and you know, Georgia and South 428 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 1: Carolina should be getting a lot. They're getting some of 429 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,400 Speaker 1: that flow, to be fair, because it's still lower cost 430 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 1: of living and lower tax than New York and California. 431 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,719 Speaker 1: To be sure, it's a fifty percent discount, but you know, 432 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 1: you gotta get it down. And it's also just going 433 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 1: to show, you know, you can't. Just why do these 434 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: states like New York have such massive budgets. It is 435 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 1: all medicaid and the bureaucracy, so welfare and bureaucrats, that's why. 436 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 1: And by the way, it's mostly paying for retired bureaucrats. 437 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 1: It's mostly the pensions, the servicing of the pen for 438 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: people who worked for the city ten years ago, twenty 439 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 1: years ago, whatever it may be. And that's just an 440 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 1: unsustainable model when there are other states that present better 441 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 1: opportunities and people will go to. And so just to 442 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 1: close the loop here on this situation in New York City, 443 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,199 Speaker 1: you know the fact that that the City of New 444 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 1: York is paying for migrants who are illegals to be 445 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:28,160 Speaker 1: in a hotel in the first place, Like this is crazy. 446 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 1: I mean, it's maddness. If you're a homeless New Yorker 447 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 1: and and you go, you show up to homeless services 448 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 1: in New York City, which they're spending a couple of 449 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,199 Speaker 1: billion dollars a year by the way on that, uh, 450 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 1: you know, you wouldn't be told, hey, here's your voucher 451 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 1: to go stay in a five hundred dollars a night hotel. 452 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 1: Although I think during COVID they did start to change 453 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 1: some of this, where you know, hotels because there was 454 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 1: no tourism, started to take this money to become effectively 455 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:55,120 Speaker 1: taxpayer funded homeless shelters that was going on. But this 456 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 1: is crazy. There's no way to defend it, and I 457 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,439 Speaker 1: don't even think anybody in the an administration could defend it. 458 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:05,399 Speaker 1: And I would love to hear how this is in 459 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 1: any way making the situation better, because every single person, 460 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 1: while they may complain about the beds and the temperature 461 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 1: not being to their full desire, think about if you 462 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,679 Speaker 1: get to stay in a four star hotel. When you 463 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 1: go into that hotel, if you are an American citizen, 464 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 1: regardless of where you listening to us right now, sleep 465 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 1: it's a nice environment, but you're already an American. Imagine 466 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: you lived in a third world country, came to America, 467 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 1: got put in a four star hotel in the middle 468 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: of Manhattan. You're telling every single person back in your 469 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 1: country how rich America is that you get to come 470 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 1: here and stay in a fancy hotel. You know what, 471 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 1: That leads to millions of more people coming to the border. 472 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 1: So it's not just that it's indefensible to make this decision, 473 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 1: it's that bucket actually seeds the ground, providing the of 474 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: structure for things to get infinitely worse and I want 475 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 1: to remind everyone that the activist left in New York 476 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 1: people speaking on behalf of these migrants are demanding at 477 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 1: a time of New York City still way above the 478 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 1: crime rates of three years ago and in serious decay. 479 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 1: And I know New York City like the back of 480 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 1: my hand. It is not what it used to be. 481 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 1: It has been going downhill. And I love New York, 482 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 1: but it is in rough shape. Clay. They're demanding people move, 483 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: that the city move funds from the NYPD to permanent 484 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 1: housing vouchers for these migrants to pay their rent. How 485 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 1: many people listening to this who live in the New 486 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: York area be like, yeah, hey, my rent too, while 487 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 1: you're at it now. It's indefensible and it should be 488 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 1: something that gets attacked soundly by all parts of the 489 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 1: political spectrum. Look on Monday, we told you about a 490 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 1: huge cell phone service provider breach at T Mobile. Do 491 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 1: you know thirty seven million customer had their personal information compromised? 492 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 1: And that's not uncommon. Every single week there's a new 493 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 1: company announcing that it's personal data has been breached and 494 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 1: your information maybe out there circulating on the internet. That 495 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 1: means there's enough in photo set up accounts in your name, 496 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 1: and what's the easiest way for a cyber thief to 497 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 1: pretend to be you online? Well, by using all of 498 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 1: your different information. 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Welcome back 516 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 1: in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. Let's take a few 517 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 1: more of your calls, A lot of you weigh an 518 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 1: end eight hundred two A two two eight A two. 519 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: As we are rolling through the Wednesday edition of the program, Block, 520 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 1: you were talking about the state income tax situation and 521 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 1: the fact that if you're in Tennessee where I live, 522 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 1: Florida where you're spending a large part of the time, 523 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 1: now certainly Texas out there for instance, zero percent state 524 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 1: income tax. It's a massive deal. The more money you make, 525 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 1: the more of an incentive it is to come. Let's 526 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 1: just say that you're a hedge fund or private equity 527 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 1: guy in New York City, and you make a million 528 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 1: dollars a year, you can save one hundred and forty 529 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 1: thousand dollars basically off your taxes, not even including what 530 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,479 Speaker 1: property tax differences are, just by going to Florida or 531 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,239 Speaker 1: Tennessee or Texas. You'd be crazy not to do it. 532 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 1: The more money you make, the more incentive it is. Well, 533 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 1: Daniel's talking about he's in Charleston, South Carolina, listening to us. Buck, 534 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 1: you were pointing out, Hey, the South Carolinas, the North Carolinas, 535 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 1: the Georgia's they don't offer that, right, I mean, Charleston's 536 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 1: really what I was even thinking. I mean, if you 537 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 1: told me Charleston had you know, obviously South Carolina. But 538 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 1: I could live in Charleston with zero state income tax 539 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 1: like that Southern charm, no doubt. And it's gonna be 540 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 1: a big battleground obviously in twenty twenty four, as will 541 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 1: Well reports, Nicky Haley is going to be running for 542 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 1: the presidency, announcing here in a couple of weeks. But Daniel, 543 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 1: you wanted to weigh in on this, Yeah, absolutely, canna 544 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 1: hear me? Yes, sir, awesome. Yeah. A couple of years ago, 545 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 1: we actually had a ballot initiative here our state income 546 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 1: taxes seven percent. Hey, but we had a ballot initiative. Yeah, 547 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: we had a ballot initiative here to get rid of 548 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 1: it over the course of three years, and for a 549 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 1: ten cent increase on gas packs. And unfortunately a lot 550 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 1: of Republican voters who were ill informed and the otherwise, 551 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 1: they all got pushed through as a bait and switch. 552 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 1: Oh but I don't know about you, guys. I'd rather 553 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 1: say ten more cents a gallon for gasoline and then 554 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 1: seven percent of my income to the state before I 555 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 1: give him a paycheck. I mean, not even al, I 556 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 1: didn't know what I thought it was. Five. Seven is crazy? 557 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 1: Patrick in Connecticut, we've been talking about this de Santist Trump. 558 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 1: Trump has taken more shots at De Santists on truth 559 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: social Patrick in Connecticut, what do you think about that? Uh, 560 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 1: this is the way I look at it, my opinion. 561 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,959 Speaker 1: But I think right now, uh, you know, Trump, Trump 562 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: should be the guy actually to go for this. I 563 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 1: think if the Santist really wants to go for it, 564 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 1: and it happens, he's looking at one term. I think 565 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 1: we let Trump get in, Let him do this job. 566 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 1: Clean house. He can walk and chew gum is swat 567 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 1: at the pests and the swamp, and the Santist can 568 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 1: do it, but not it is good. Let Trump clean house, 569 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 1: get this thing going back together with this mess in 570 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 1: the swap in Washington, and Desantist will have eight years 571 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 1: after that back to back four years and then another 572 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 1: four That's the way it should be. Right there, Buck, 573 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 1: This is what you were talking about, and I agree, 574 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,840 Speaker 1: we were talking about the strongest argument for Trump is 575 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,479 Speaker 1: de Santis is a great governor. Stay there, keep making 576 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 1: Florida better and better. Let me go for four years. 577 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 1: I know exactly what to do, and then in twenty 578 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 1: twenty eight the Santist runs, maybe he gets the Trump nomination, 579 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 1: I mean the Trump endorsement, and maybe he gets the 580 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 1: nomination as a result. I think that's a strong argument 581 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,919 Speaker 1: for Trump. De Santis is great. Why not twelve years 582 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 1: of Trump and De Santis, Stephen Florida, What you got 583 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,799 Speaker 1: for us? And when you wants Steve, yeah, we got you, 584 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 1: all right. I just want to say this, Trump in 585 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one Florida by what seven points or something 586 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 1: like that? Right, I think it was three and a half. 587 00:34:58,080 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 1: I think it was more than that. It was like 588 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,439 Speaker 1: a big I think it was three and a half 589 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 1: talk right now, but I think it was like a 590 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,359 Speaker 1: three and a half point win, which was a substantial win. 591 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 1: But it wasn't nineteen points. But we'll look it up. 592 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 1: Keep going. I know that it was nineteen points, but 593 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 1: Trump started the red Florida going. It didn't come from 594 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 1: decantists or anything like that, because if you think about it, 595 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,280 Speaker 1: Rubio one by seventeen and eighteen points two, So should 596 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,359 Speaker 1: we say Rubio should run. That makes no sense. This 597 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 1: is Florida. I live in Florida. For many years. People 598 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:32,360 Speaker 1: loved Trump in Florida. They like the scientists. That's a 599 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 1: big difference. Okay, I appreciate that argument. Let me give 600 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 1: you the data here. Twenty twenty election, Trump won fifty 601 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 1: one point two percent of the vote and Joe Biden 602 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,319 Speaker 1: won forty seven point nine percent of the vote. So 603 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 1: three and a half percent is basically what we were 604 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 1: saying there. The scantist won by nineteen. Now, now, Indrio 605 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 1: was a beneficiary of down ticket voting in a state 606 00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 1: that had switched very red, that also got a whole 607 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 1: lot of the twenty years is very low. Not to 608 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,319 Speaker 1: say they can't win it, because a great candidate can 609 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 1: win in states that you don't anticipate them winning. Look 610 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,840 Speaker 1: at Glenn yungcan winning in Virginia, for example, in statewide 611 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 1: race as governor. But when we talked about earlier, basically 612 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 1: six hundred and fifty thousand registered voters to move from 613 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 1: Democrats to Republicans in the last four years, I think 614 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 1: eventually that's going to be a I really do believe this. 615 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 1: A million vote lead for Republicans where it's really hard 616 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 1: for Democrats to win statewide races. Florida's gone read. The 617 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 1: question is who gives the best opportunity for the country 618 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 1: to go read in twenty four and we think it's 619 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 1: going to be a Donnie Brook one of my favorite 620 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 1: words between DeSantis and Trump