1 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George 2 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center. 3 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 2: Jack Armstrong and Joe. 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 3: Getty Armstrong and Jetty and Geez Armstrong and Getty Strong. 5 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 3: We are so lazy. 6 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 2: We're still at home. We're vacationing or whatever it is 7 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 2: we're gonna do during this week. But we're not at work. 8 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 4: That's right, We're relaxing so we can come back ten, 9 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 4: rested and ready in the new. 10 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 2: Year, or fat, draggled and hung over in my face. 11 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 4: Anyway, Enjoy the Armstrong and Getty replay. 12 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 5: More than sixteen billion passwords for Google, Apple, Facebook and 13 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 5: other platforms have been. 14 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 2: Leaked in one of the largest hacks of all time. Oh, 15 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 2: it's pretty scary. Now everyone knows your Facebook password, but 16 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 2: you where's it again? Pass through once he sees. 17 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 5: Like it seems like like once daily, I end up 18 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 5: at a website I haven't used in forever and it 19 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 5: needs the password, and I gotta go to whatever to 20 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 5: try to figure out what my password is. 21 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 2: Just like, I keep thinking. 22 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 5: That we're going to get past this moment and it 23 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,119 Speaker 5: will be something old people talk about years from now. 24 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:17,119 Speaker 5: You used to have to have passwords for each site 25 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 5: and memorize them or write them down, or have a 26 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 5: nap that kept them or whatever. That that's gonna go away. 27 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 5: And well, they'll use our eyes or our thumbprints. I 28 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 5: don't know what they'll use. 29 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 4: But in the always vexing, when you're in the middle 30 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 4: of rushing through something, noticed that this password has appeared 31 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 4: on a list of hacked you know whatever the hell? 32 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 2: I would you like to change it now? 33 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 3: No? 34 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 2: I wouldn't. 35 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 5: No, No, I just assume all kinds of Russian mobsters. 36 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 2: I have my passwords. 37 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 5: I just want to get into this. I would opt 38 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 5: probably for a no password on most sites. I don't 39 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 5: care if you can get into my DMV information. How 40 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 5: about how about you let me in it with no 41 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 5: password whenever I want. 42 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 2: To get in. Oh, you fool, You'll be hacked. And 43 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 2: then what hacked into my DMV information? All right, your nords? 44 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 2: Some rack account out? What if the Chinese knew what 45 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 2: size pants you owned? Then what we got? A couple 46 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 2: of texts. 47 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 5: One an economics professor at high school, said he taught 48 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 5: why rent control didn't work and stuff like that, but 49 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 5: he has a feeling all the students remembered was whatever 50 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 5: TikTok video they were looking at well, it. 51 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 2: Was we got another text. Why are you guys talking 52 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 2: about New York. 53 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 5: You don't think it's interesting that the biggest city in America, 54 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 5: maybe the most important city in the world, is about 55 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 5: to elect a communist as a mayor. 56 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 4: I find that pretty interesting. They never text again, they're 57 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 4: doing Yeah, am into that. Yeah, never text again, Never 58 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 4: text again. 59 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:47,519 Speaker 5: So I got started on this jag because it's happening 60 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 5: at a local skateboard park, and it reminded me of 61 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 5: something that happened to me years ago in LA and 62 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 5: I wanted to tell this story again because it drives 63 00:02:55,080 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 5: me nuts. It's a great example of the conflict visions 64 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 5: that Thomas Soyll talks about between conservatives and progressives and 65 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 5: just different ways of seeing the world and stuff like that, 66 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 5: where I can't get in the mind. I can't even 67 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 5: understand the point of view of the people I'm about 68 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,679 Speaker 5: to talk about, and they can't understand my point of view. 69 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 5: So we've got a local story here in Fulsome, California. 70 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 5: That's right, that Fulsome. I heard the training come and 71 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 5: coming around the bend, I shot a guy just for fun. 72 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 2: Whatever. That whole thing fullsome skateboard park. 73 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 5: Where for a couple of reasons, they're talking about doing 74 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 5: away with the attendants at the skateboard park. The attendant's 75 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 5: job is to, it says, stop graffiti from happening, break 76 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 5: up fights, and to make sure skateboarders have helmets and 77 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 5: pads on. Wouldn't they skateboard The city is saying they 78 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 5: don't have enough money for the attendant. A whole bunch 79 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 5: of skateboarders showed up to various meetings and said, nobody 80 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 5: goes because nobody's. 81 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 2: Gonna wear all those paths. So what's the point. 82 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 5: I just saw a video up on the TV and 83 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 5: it showed one kid in this giant, glorious looking skateboard park, 84 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 5: one kids skateboarding, and it said on there it said 85 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 5: they've had five hundred and eighty people a month on 86 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 5: average during summertime. 87 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 2: That's nobody's I did the math. That's nineteen a. 88 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 5: Day or something like that. That's nobody. You should have 89 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 5: two hundred kids a day there. I've had this experience 90 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 5: drives me nuts. When I went to Los Angeles, my 91 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 5: son was super into skateboarding. One time we went we 92 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 5: went to La just to do like a tour of 93 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 5: skateboard parks. He'd never been to different ones, and I thought, 94 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 5: in LA's probably got a lot of great skateboard parks. 95 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 5: We'd been to the one on Venice Beach, and check 96 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 5: that out. As we traveled around, almost every skateboard park 97 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 5: we went to, which was empty on. 98 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 2: A beautiful day eighty degree. 99 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 5: Like it always isn't a la eighty degrees, slight breeze, 100 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 5: beautiful sunshine, empty skateboard park in the summertime, but an 101 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 5: attendant there saying, I'm sorry, you can't skate here because 102 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 5: you don't the pads because we didn't bring pads. I 103 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:03,919 Speaker 5: always had him more a helmet, but he didn't have 104 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 5: elbow pads and knee pads and all that sort of stuff, 105 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 5: so he couldn't skateboard there. And the first one it 106 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 5: was like annoying. The second one it was like annoying 107 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 5: times five. By the third one, actually, I found a 108 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 5: skateboard park that was packed full of people's skateboarding because 109 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 5: they didn't have an attendant, got to skateboard for a while. 110 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 5: Tried a different skateboard park, also empty, with a person 111 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 5: there with a clipboard attending it, and that's when I 112 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:31,359 Speaker 5: started getting angry and lecturing people and saying, yes, do 113 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 5: you realize there's a skateboard park like a mile from 114 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 5: here that's packed full of people's skateboarding, kids baking. You 115 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 5: have nobody here, So what are you accomplishing? Why did 116 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 5: you build a skateboard park. It's empty on a gorgeous date, 117 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 5: nobody's using it. Well, we need to make sure kids 118 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 5: are safe. Well, first of all, you don't, but you 119 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 5: might as well not have a skateboard park. Either have 120 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 5: one or don't. But you're not stopping kids from wrecking 121 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 5: a on their skateboard because they're not skateboarding, or they're 122 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 5: traveling further away to. 123 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 2: Go to some place where they don't have to wear pads. 124 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 5: And every I said this at several skateboard parks, and 125 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 5: all they did was look at me like I'm an 126 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 5: angry lunatic, partially because I was an angry lunatic. 127 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 2: But I like, I can't get in the headspace. 128 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,799 Speaker 5: Of anybody who could be an attendant, or the parents 129 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 5: who think that's a good idea. Better to have an 130 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 5: empty skateboard park than to let our kids skin their 131 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 5: knees or elbows. 132 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 4: The paternalism probably a poor choice of words, since some 133 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 4: of these people are literally fathers, but the condescension, the 134 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 4: nannyism of it is disgusting to me. The idea that kids, 135 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:50,359 Speaker 4: all of a sudden, for the first time in human history, can't, 136 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 4: within reasonable bounds, assess their own risk tolerance and their 137 00:06:56,600 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 4: own willingness to endure gative consequences of overdoing it. I mean, 138 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 4: for the first time in human history, kids must be 139 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 4: protected from banging up their elbows and knees. I do 140 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 4: not get someone coming to that conclusion and being so 141 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 4: pleased with themselves. 142 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 2: I'm horrified by it. 143 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 4: I'm disgusted by it literally because I see what it's 144 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 4: doing the generation of kids, generations of kids. 145 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 2: Why do kids have so. 146 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 4: Much anxiety because they haven't been allowed in general, because 147 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:31,119 Speaker 4: they haven't been allowed to develop a sense of risk 148 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 4: tolerance throughout their lives and confidence that they. 149 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 2: Know what they're doing. They're veal calves. 150 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 5: That's indisputable. It's been documented. As we've talked about before. 151 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 5: Europe has figured out that they're doing away with like 152 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 5: the super safe parts and stuff like that. They're moving 153 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 5: toward kids doing more dangerous stuff, banging their heads and 154 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 5: elbows and stuff more often because it's good for you 155 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,119 Speaker 5: for all kinds of different emotional reasons. But I also 156 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 5: wonder just what it does to children. I know with 157 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 5: my kids, part of it, what it does to children 158 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 5: to see all these stupid, freaking they don't make any 159 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 5: sense laws. I know it's made my kids less respectful 160 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 5: of all laws, is what it's done. And of course 161 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 5: it would, because when you're confronted with stupid ones, it 162 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 5: makes you think everybody who makes laws is stupid. 163 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 2: So why would I pay attention to this one? Because 164 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 2: that one's obviously dumb. 165 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 4: If Thomas Jefferson were here, he might say, first of all, 166 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 4: what are those metal things flying through the sky? But 167 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 4: he would also say, this reminds me of that discussion 168 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 4: you guys had about rent controls like twenty minutes ago. 169 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 2: This is the same thing. 170 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 4: You have a market of faith or respect for the law, 171 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 4: and your sons have seen more and more stupid, useless, 172 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 4: paternalistic laws, their faith in the laws declining. They will 173 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 4: behave politically in a way that ends that as soon 174 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 4: as they can, if indeed, you can fight the nanty state, 175 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:01,079 Speaker 4: and they will be beaten back by your son's disgust 176 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 4: with a paternalism. 177 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 5: I know a woman who is super nice and very 178 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 5: helpful to me, and just like the nicest person in 179 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 5: the world, have been very helpful to me in all 180 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 5: kinds of different ways of my life. But she told 181 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 5: me the story and I kept my mouth shut about 182 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,079 Speaker 5: how when the skateboard park in my town opened up, 183 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 5: how she and another mom they would go there on 184 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 5: the weekends and set up and monitor to make sure 185 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 5: all the kids were wearing the proper pads and helmets 186 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 5: and everything like that. And she said she kept it 187 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 5: up for a summer or two, but they just couldn't 188 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 5: keep up the schedule. 189 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 2: I didn't. 190 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 5: I just like, were you a kid ever once? And 191 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:42,079 Speaker 5: maybe a few girls didn't. Did you notice the boys 192 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 5: did bang their knees and have bloody E have scabs 193 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 5: on their elbows and knees constantly as a child, And 194 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 5: did you think that that was just awful like Aschwitz 195 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 5: or something like that, that they were having scabs on 196 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 5: their knees. It's like the most normal thing in the 197 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 5: world for a ten year old way to have a 198 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 5: scab on his knee. 199 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 200 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 4: I can't hold back. I generally say something in situations 201 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:06,959 Speaker 4: like that. It's probably why I have very few friends. 202 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 4: But uh yeah. 203 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 5: Well I can't stop short of you're a psycho because 204 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 5: I think you are. 205 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 2: I see, that's your problem. 206 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:17,079 Speaker 5: How do you not look around an empty skateboard park 207 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 5: and think, well, this is somehow self defeating. If we 208 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 5: have nobody using the skateboard park, I'm not sure what 209 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 5: we're doing here, right exactly? 210 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 4: Yeah? 211 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, well yeah, yeah. 212 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:33,079 Speaker 4: You gotta develop going from emotional gear one to five, 213 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 4: So you got to you gotta be able to settle 214 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 4: into two and three there and make the argument. 215 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 2: You know, I respectfully disagree. 216 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 4: I think kids need to take risks and get banged 217 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 4: up and learn that it won't kill. 218 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 2: Them and decide how risky they want to live their life. 219 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 5: It's great the kids get banged up. Were you not 220 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 5: a kid once? Do you think kids are built differently 221 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 5: now or they're like bones made of glass now and 222 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 5: they didn't used to be? 223 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,439 Speaker 2: Every What is your thought process? 224 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 5: I just think it makes me insane that sort of thing, 225 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 5: all right? 226 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 4: My alternative to safety first plus the greatest quote ever 227 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 4: on this topic from the great C. 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It's state by state too custom for you. 250 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:09,439 Speaker 4: That's Trust and Will dot com slash armstrong. 251 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 2: Trust and Will dot Com slash armstrong. 252 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:14,559 Speaker 5: I wonder why I can't let go of this stuff 253 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 5: as well as I can, Like I've had some unfortunate 254 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 5: breaks in my life that I've been able to mostly 255 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 5: let go of much better than I can let go 256 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:24,839 Speaker 5: of this sort of thing. 257 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 2: We're driving around all these skateboard parks. 258 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 5: Finally, I was just getting Sam had been looking forward 259 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 5: to the skateboard park so much. It was our vacation. 260 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 5: We were there and we couldn't go anywhere. So I 261 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 5: finally found I had to go to like two stores. 262 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 5: Finally found a bike store where they sold knee pads 263 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 5: and elbow pads stuff like that, just so we could 264 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 5: go skateboard. We went to one and they said they 265 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 5: weren't the right kind of elbow pads. And I don't 266 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 5: think I've ever been angrier in my life. 267 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 2: And I just couldn't let it go. It was like 268 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 2: my head was gonna pop off. 269 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 5: I hate that feeling where I just it's a cognitive dissonance. 270 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 2: I just can't. 271 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 5: I couldn't make the empty skate park skateboard bark beautiful day. 272 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 5: There's nothing wrong with this, It doesn't hurt anything to 273 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 5: bang your knee all fit into my head. 274 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 2: It just was making me crazy, right, right. 275 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 4: There is absolutely a vein of especially you know, it 276 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 4: clicked in my head when you got to that example 277 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 4: of oh yeah he's got elbow pads, but they're not 278 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 4: the right cod right. That is absolutely the intoxication of 279 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 4: power aiding what I was going to talk about here, 280 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,439 Speaker 4: just the great CS. Lewis quote, which we've used many 281 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 4: times on the show. But of all tyrannies, a tyranny 282 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:37,719 Speaker 4: sincerely exercised for the good of its victim may be 283 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 4: the most oppressive. It may be better to live under 284 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 4: robber barons than under omniptent, moral, busybodies. The robber baron's 285 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 4: cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity or greed may at 286 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 4: some point be satiated. But those who torment us for 287 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 4: our own good will torment us without end, for they 288 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,239 Speaker 4: do so with the approval of their own conscience. 289 00:13:58,400 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 2: So true. 290 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 4: I want to popular popularize the saying, maybe we gotta 291 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 4: get T shirts going safety third. Yeah, I and people 292 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 4: would ask what, wait, Wait, isn't the expression safety first 293 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 4: and the safe Maybe the back of the safety third 294 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 4: T shirt would have one courage, two curiosity three safety 295 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 4: safety third. Right, I'll bet I'm not talking about handing 296 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 4: your four year old of forty five, letting them squeeze 297 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 4: off a couple of shots. We're talking about kids riding 298 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 4: their bike at a park and playing ball. 299 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 5: I'm sure the one woman still tells stories about the 300 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 5: bald lunatic. 301 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 2: Okay, because I remember walking away. 302 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 5: Have fun monitoring your empty skateboard park. 303 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 2: You're doing a lot of good for the world. I 304 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 2: was so bad. 305 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, she cannot conceive of what you were trying to communicate. 306 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 5: Now she thinks, thank god, if I hadn't been here, 307 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 5: that lunatic would have let his kids skateboard. 308 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 2: Without knee pads. You know how many people would have died. 309 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 4: It's a it's a stereotype, and it's oversimplified because there 310 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 4: are many tough, smart, great women who have helped make 311 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 4: America great. 312 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 2: But we have. 313 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 4: Gone from maybe too much of a daddy society to 314 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 4: too much of. 315 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 2: A mommy song without doubt. 316 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 4: Oh, we are clutching our children to our aprons and 317 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 4: not letting them risk a single thing. 318 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 2: Good Lord, I'm strong, And. 319 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 4: Do you want to hear my favorite headline of the day. 320 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 4: Woman pleads guilty to lying about astronaut wife accessing bank 321 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 4: account from space station. That is definitely one of those headlines. Wait, 322 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I need to hear that one more time. 323 00:15:56,040 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 4: There's a lot happening here. Woman pleads guilty lying about 324 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 4: astronaut wife accessing bank account from space stace. 325 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 2: Okay, I'd missed the first part. 326 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 5: The woman pled guilty to lying it never abowed her 327 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 5: lesbian astronaut wife draining the accounts from outer space. 328 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 2: I guess it's is it near space? 329 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 5: Where the did she drain the accounts herself and try 330 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 5: to blame it on her astronaut? 331 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 2: Yeah? 332 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, in the midst of a divorce. Yeah, and a 333 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 4: bitter custody battle over kids or a Cordeese French bulldogs 334 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 4: they're referring to their son. I believe it is a 335 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 4: human still could be a French bulldog. Uh, conceived through 336 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 4: ivy fertilization, carried by a surrogate. Mishaw, You got two 337 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 4: women in this relationship. Why do you need a surrogate? 338 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 4: It is lazy. I don't know. I'm sure we'll get 339 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 4: angry emails for that. Maybe you weren't biologically physically anatomically 340 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 4: able to carry a child. 341 00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 2: Were you just lazy? 342 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 4: You got who women's in this relationship granted the ones 343 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 4: in outer space. I get this so that it eliminates 344 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 4: the one. Eh boy. Anyway, I hope those two crazy 345 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 4: kids can work out their problems and co parents as successful. 346 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: Jack Armstrong and Joe Gatty the Armstrong and Getty Show. 347 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 2: Okay, what the hell was that? 348 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 4: Oh boy? Apparently netflick is Netflix. They're more than one flick. 349 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 4: Netflix is taking some flak for its upcoming ultra woke 350 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:41,439 Speaker 4: film featuring a transgender coal miner fighting the patriarchy. I 351 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 4: have a feeling the transgender coal miner idea was pitched 352 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 4: and accepted a couple of years ago, when the trans 353 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:52,239 Speaker 4: thing was a little hotter. Yeah, you kind of were 354 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 4: on the front foot. Yes, yes, and people were afraid 355 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 4: to say it. Strikes me as madness. 356 00:17:58,359 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 2: All of this. 357 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 4: The Argentinian film Queen of Coal, which stars Marvel and 358 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 4: Star Wars star Pedro Pescal's real life transgender brother. 359 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 5: Accepted as a miner. Is there any way I can 360 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 5: get him to get out of my life. Stop showing 361 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 5: up on everything I want to watch. 362 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 4: Trans women dreams of working the coal mines, but in 363 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 4: a town steeped in a superstition and patriarchy. Carlita must 364 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:28,640 Speaker 4: fight to earn her place underground. Well, it's all the execution, 365 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 4: so I guess you'd have to watch it. I probably 366 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 4: won't to decide whether or not it's good or not. 367 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:34,360 Speaker 4: I had forgotten about Netflix. 368 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 5: I read an article the other day the founder, because well, Netflix, 369 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 5: you know, is trying to buy HBO and Paramount and 370 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 5: that whole merger thing and all that sort of stuff 371 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 5: coming together, and it'll be even bigger of a behemoth 372 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 5: than it already is. But that those two dudes started 373 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 5: with you could mail a DVD. I mean, they were 374 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 5: just trying to come up with a better blockbuster, is 375 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 5: what they did. And then they and then they they 376 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 5: changed on a fly. It's very much like Zuckerberg and Facebook. 377 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 5: I mean, Facebook wasn't intended to be what it ended 378 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 5: up being. I want to you know, making him a 379 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 5: billionaire is a completely different idea. But you're just nimble 380 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:09,880 Speaker 5: enough to adjust with the times. 381 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 2: It's pretty much. 382 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, it is interesting, and it reaffirms something I've long believed, 383 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 4: which is sometimes just try things because they might just 384 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 4: be one or two clicks off a really really good thing, 385 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 4: and you don't know until you dive in. But for 386 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 4: companies that successful to have started is it's you know, 387 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 4: not like Henry Ford started out to make dog food 388 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 4: and ended up making cars. Cars was the original idea. 389 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 4: But Facebook and Netflix especially, Yeah, you put your little 390 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 4: your DVD in the pouch and it had a postage 391 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 4: on it and you can mail it back. 392 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 2: So the story we want a feature right now. I 393 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 2: think this is of. 394 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 4: Enormous significance culturally in the United States, and it's. 395 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 2: Getting cruelly little coverage. 396 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,679 Speaker 4: I've had to do a couple of news sirch to 397 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 4: find it, and sure enough I've found coverage. But has 398 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:08,199 Speaker 4: to do with the Florida Attorney General James Upmeyer, who's 399 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:12,400 Speaker 4: got a couple of lawsuits that he's announced. The one 400 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 4: that's getting much more attention is that he's suing Starbucks, 401 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 4: alleging the company uses racial discrimination and illegal hiring quotas 402 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,640 Speaker 4: illegal race based quotas. The lawsuit alleges that in twenty twenty, 403 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 4: Starbucks set it's diverse representation goals were to hire people 404 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 4: of color in forty percent of retail and distribution center 405 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 4: jobs blah blah blah, and they're actively discriminating against hiring 406 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 4: people of a certain race that would be non people 407 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,439 Speaker 4: of color. So anyway that one's getting a lot of attention, 408 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 4: I had to do some digging to find more than 409 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 4: a bit of coverage on this story. Florida is filing 410 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 4: a lawsuit against three medical groups that push children into 411 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:57,880 Speaker 4: transgender mutilation procedures, as I prefer to call them, because 412 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 4: that's what it is. They cause permanent changes based on 413 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 4: incredibly shaky real. 414 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 2: Is it fair to say there's zero medical need? Yeah? Yeah, absolutely. 415 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 4: The only people who say that there are are radical 416 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 4: gender activists who claim that gender affirmation is a thing. 417 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 2: But you have to. 418 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 5: Pretend there's genuine medical need to do the surgery, don't you. 419 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,400 Speaker 2: Otherwise you're what the hell are you doing? 420 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 5: Well? Right, You're just like cropping the tails of dogs 421 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:29,919 Speaker 5: or something. 422 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 2: You're just doing something for well. 423 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:35,400 Speaker 4: It reminds me of the horrible genital mutilations in Africa 424 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 4: or what have you. 425 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 2: It's it's terrible, it's awful. 426 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 4: As I've said a thousand times, we will look back 427 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 4: on this with horror and people will be astounding. That 428 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 4: astounded that the various authorities, medical and legal allowed these 429 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 4: experiments to take place. Anyway, here's the Florida Attorney General 430 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 4: explaining himself, it's a little longish, but he does a 431 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 4: really good job laying it out. 432 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 6: This is Attorney General aims in legal action against several 433 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 6: powerful medical organizations, the World Professional Association for Transgender Health, 434 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:12,880 Speaker 6: the American Academy of Pediatrics, and the Indocrine Society. We 435 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 6: believe these organizations failed to disclose the risks, limits, and 436 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:20,880 Speaker 6: evidence when promoting so called gender affirming care for children. 437 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:25,640 Speaker 6: For years, these groups insisted their recommendations were settled science, 438 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 6: but behind closed doors, they knew the evidence was weak. 439 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 6: They knew the outcomes uncertain, and the risks very real. 440 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 6: Parents were not told the full story. In fact, some 441 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,160 Speaker 6: parents were told that if they didn't put their kids 442 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 6: through permanent life altering sick procedures like double missectomies and castration, 443 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 6: that their child would commit suicide. 444 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 2: Wow. 445 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 6: Not only is that unethical and dangerous medicine, but it 446 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 6: is against the law. Children were irrevocably harmed because truth 447 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 6: was replaced with political activism. When organizations make medical claims, 448 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,360 Speaker 6: they have a duty to be honest. When they intentionally 449 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 6: misleave families, their members, and the medical profession, we hold 450 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 6: them accountable. Florida will always follow the evidence, protect children, 451 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 6: and defend parents' rights to make informed decisions. 452 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 5: None of that is new news, obviously, but man, when 453 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 5: it's laid out like that, it's just unbelievable. You got 454 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 5: a mom and a dad who haven't been following this 455 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 5: story in a freaking experts using my finger quotes tells you, well, 456 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 5: you've got no choice. You're twelve year old believes they're 457 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 5: a girl, and if we don't do the surgery, they'll 458 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 5: kill themselves. 459 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:44,120 Speaker 2: All studies show you that. 460 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 4: But they say, and all studies show that a thirteen 461 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 4: year old girl surrounded by other thirteen year old girls 462 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,880 Speaker 4: saying the same thing, they know with certainty that indeed 463 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,360 Speaker 4: they are in the wrong body and need to be sexually. 464 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 2: Don't question them. 465 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 4: Don't talk about their autism, their depression, their alienation, don't 466 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 4: talk about any psychological problems. In fact, if you do that, 467 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 4: that's deprogramming or what do they call it, the gay 468 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 4: conversion therapy. Yeah, you're practicing conversion therapy. And that's been discredited. 469 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 4: It's an insidious conspiracy. 470 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,880 Speaker 5: But what did the doctors use for their legal rationale 471 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 5: that their recommendations from the those various boards. Well, if 472 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 5: if I go to the doctor and say I'd like 473 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 5: you to remove my nose, I think most ethical doctors 474 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 5: are going to say, I'm not going. 475 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:40,199 Speaker 4: To do that, right, right, the intersection of these activist 476 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 4: organizations like WPATH, that was the first one he mentioned. 477 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:52,160 Speaker 4: They're infamous. They have foisted so many awful, un replicable, 478 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 4: thoroughly discredited, discredited studies that have influenced, you know, the 479 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 4: sex change industry around the world for a number of years. 480 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 4: Those were the studies that Europe took a serious look at, 481 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 4: and the CAST report in Sweden, famously in the Netherlands 482 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 4: and said, whoa, whoa, whoa, there is no evidence based 483 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 4: science to support these claims. And they hit the brakes 484 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 4: hard and put the car of child sex changes hard 485 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 4: in reverse all across Europe because they realized that these 486 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 4: studies were utterly fictional. That's w PATH, the American Academy 487 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:31,679 Speaker 4: of Pediatrics, which sounds so wait a minute, their kid doctors, right, No, 488 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:35,640 Speaker 4: they are a leftist activist group. They've been captured by 489 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 4: these activists, as has the Endocrine Society. If you're not 490 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 4: familiar with the term, it has to do with hormones. Oh, 491 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 4: like selling hormones and prescribing hormones and that sort of thing. Yeah, 492 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 4: they're down with it. So this one's going to be 493 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 4: super interesting to follow. Something tells me that the Attorney 494 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 4: general there, mister Upmeier, is going to file suits, not 495 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 4: in some sort of crazy the ass woke Biden nominee 496 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 4: court district. 497 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:06,159 Speaker 2: We'll see. 498 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,199 Speaker 4: And the you know, the Starbucks thing is huge, too impactful. 499 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 4: So of course this is reported as a horror in 500 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 4: the New York Times, but it's about this person that 501 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 4: had bad cancer and was into their teenth surgery. A 502 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 4: trans person a. 503 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 5: Man who now went by a woman, decided to secretly 504 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 5: record the surgery, and then what this person heard the 505 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 5: surgeons say was horrifying and shocking. She recorded the surgery, 506 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,400 Speaker 5: the person saying, I just wanted to know, like in 507 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 5: case they gave any medical advice. You know, why I'm 508 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 5: on an under anesthesia I heard. 509 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 2: Or something like that. 510 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, I wanted to know what's going on. 511 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 2: I'm reading from the New York Times. She recounted. 512 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 5: She turned on the audio recorder on her phone before 513 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 5: the anesthesia hit. 514 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 2: It's kind of interesting. 515 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 5: I've I've been in such I don't remember having the 516 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 5: opportunity to have my phone with me or record, but. 517 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:05,120 Speaker 2: Anyway me neither. 518 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:10,639 Speaker 5: Yeah, the surgeons were removing part of her lung. She 519 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,640 Speaker 5: she did not get around to playing the recording until 520 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 5: a few weeks later. Though the audio was muffled, she 521 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 5: could follow somewhat the surgical team was saying. Before the 522 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 5: procedure began, someone was going out for coffee. Did any 523 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:24,400 Speaker 5: want somebody want something from Starbucks? Then the conversation shifted. 524 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 5: Still has man parts, said one of the medical crew. 525 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 5: It seemed to miss Capasso. That's the person in question 526 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 5: that they were talking about her genitalia. Yeah, I think 527 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 5: you were correct and deducing that good guess. On the recording, 528 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 5: the healthcare workers express a variety of opinions about transgender identity, 529 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 5: more generally not that it's not right, but said one person, 530 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 5: I don't get any of it. 531 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 2: Another says, And in the. 532 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 5: Middle of the conversation, one person suggested updating the patient's 533 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 5: medical file. 534 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, and needs to say mail. 535 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 5: One of the medical team said, because that's a male 536 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 5: is why, Yes, the patient said. It appeared that the 537 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,360 Speaker 5: hospital staff had in fact changed the electronic medical records 538 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 5: all while the new York Times says she was unconscious 539 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:14,640 Speaker 5: with the records now marked as M for male. 540 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 2: Some hospital staff members had referred. 541 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 5: To her as sir during the weekly appointments after the surgery, 542 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 5: probably because it's a dude. Others made a big deal 543 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 5: about her being transgender. One person, perhaps taunting her, says, 544 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 5: this person, I don't think so. I think they were 545 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 5: going along with your thing, perhaps trying to be supportive, 546 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 5: said things like yes, queen, also. 547 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 4: Unwelcome, said miss Capasso. That's what young people say these days. 548 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 5: That's supportive, but some person going along with your wants 549 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 5: also gets criticized. 550 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 2: You can't win here. 551 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 4: I take no joy in the fact that this poor 552 00:28:54,800 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 4: person A has cancer and B is a paranoid, you know, activist, lunatic. 553 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 2: But they clearly are. It's sad they're to be pitied. 554 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 2: That's an interesting one. And then we'll take a break. 555 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 2: But so ms. 556 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 5: Capasso said that she asked the hospital administration to switch 557 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 5: the male designation back to female, and she received a 558 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 5: surprising answer, it couldn't be done anytime soon. What is 559 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 5: the hospital supposed to do because certainly from a medical 560 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 5: standpoint and the way the you know, human body might 561 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 5: react to things as a male versus a female. 562 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 2: You gotta leave it male. 563 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, you're a dude, dude. Sorry, Wow, that's an interesting one. 564 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 5: I'm surprised that hasn't been worked out legally yet. 565 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 4: Present as a man, a woman, an ostrich, rodeo, clown, 566 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 4: whatever you want, but medically speaking, you're a male and 567 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 4: a discussion. 568 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 5: So our medical professionals supposed to keep those conversations to 569 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 5: themselves while you're asleep. That's an interesting question itself. So 570 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 5: they're having it. I don't know about the whole transgender thing. 571 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 5: I don't get any of it while you're asleep. Oh 572 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 5: that's just awful. How dare they shut? 573 00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 1: At the Armstrong and Getty Show, Yeah, show podcasts and 574 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: our hot links. 575 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 2: The Armstrong and Getty Show. My eye was caught by this. 576 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 4: They're talking about the Kensington Avenue open air drug market 577 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 4: in Philadelphia, which they call the country's most notorious San Francisco. 578 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 4: I think had had that wrapped up for a while. 579 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 4: Around the Civic Center assists, man, you could get anything 580 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 4: all the time. Junkies everywhere, watch out for the poop. 581 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 4: So is it Salvadoran's selling drugs openly? Cops had walk by. 582 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 4: It's amazing. But so they're talking about this Kensington Avenue 583 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 4: in Philly. For years, the street ran on heroin. Then 584 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 4: the gang started putting fentanyl or fetti in the dope. 585 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 4: I didn't know fentanyl had any nickname, but it's fetti. 586 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 2: Sounds cute. Get a little fetti in with your heroin. 587 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 4: Then came the animal tranquilizers was seen jack known simply 588 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,959 Speaker 4: as tank trank. That's right, it'll rot your flesh right 589 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 4: off your limbs. That's the one that puts holes in 590 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 4: your legs. 591 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 2: Delightful. 592 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 4: But wait, just when you thought there can't be any 593 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 4: more new drugs, there's a new one. Medatomidine medaomidine, yeah, 594 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 4: or something like that delivers a shorter, more powerful high 595 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 4: than the varieties of dope that preceded it, and the 596 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 4: crash is faster and more brutal. By some estimates, it's 597 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 4: two hundred times stronger than the trunk. 598 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 5: I tried the trank and it put holes in my legs. 599 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 5: I'm looking for something that burns my eyeballs out of 600 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 5: the sockets. 601 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 2: Do you have anything like that? 602 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 4: Junkie Tony, who they interview, says there's no stages to 603 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 4: the high, you go straight to sleep. 604 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 2: Well, wait a minute, I don't understand that. 605 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 5: That's like the trank with the lean where I've seen 606 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 5: him in San Francisco where they're just leaned over up 607 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 5: against a wall. 608 00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 2: Well, what kind of party is that? 609 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know what the withdrawal is from these 610 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 4: various things. Either I don't know, to make up a 611 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 4: hit or stamp. According to the junkies, the dealers mixed 612 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 4: the let's just call it med with fentanyl. Udrugs have 613 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 4: a jackhammer, which continues to be the leading cause of 614 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 4: overdose death in the US. The drugs are then packaged 615 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 4: in small paper wraps, each stamped with a Cruise brand. 616 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 4: Hot Sauce is one drug Cruise brand Pringles. I see 617 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 4: that's I'm sorry, that's a copyright infringement, Blackjack or Sunshine. 618 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,959 Speaker 4: They cost two to five dollars depending on the size. 619 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 5: Wow, you can get a sleep, apparently is what their 620 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 5: goal is, leaning up against the wall with sores. 621 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 2: In your legs for two bucks. 622 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:59,239 Speaker 4: Right then they talked to Christine, a forty one year 623 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 4: old Philadelphi who doesn't look at day over seventy. She's 624 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 4: more got more scabs than I have eyelashes. You if 625 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 4: I do a certain stamp, I have to have that stamp, 626 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 4: she says. I try to do other stamps, it won't 627 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 4: get me. 628 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 2: Well. 629 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 4: Wow, she's at that point of addiction where she takes 630 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 4: drugs just to feel even close to normal and not 631 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 4: horribly sick. 632 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 5: But your physical addiction is you've got to have the 633 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 5: particular blend of that. 634 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 2: That's interesting. Yeah. Yeah. 635 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 4: By the way, she's suffered a mere five heart attacks 636 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 4: triggered by the med withdrawal. She said, so far forty 637 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 4: one she had five heart attacks. 638 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 5: So I'm doing the sunshine, and that's the kind that 639 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 5: I need to continue to do. I get in a sunshine, 640 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 5: I'm getting notes of caramel and then it's got a 641 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 5: chocolatey finish. 642 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 643 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 4: I'd throw up my back twisting my screen so that 644 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 4: you can see this poor woman, but she's sirious. 645 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 2: If you were. 646 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 4: It's like a stock photo from Soviet era Russia where 647 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 4: the seventy year old babush struggles to gather potatoes. 648 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:09,800 Speaker 2: You know, she looks like that, right, five art attacks? Yeah, wow, 649 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 2: good party. 650 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 4: The effects of each stamp very slightly from block to 651 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 4: block due to a variety of other adulterants, but usually 652 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:22,319 Speaker 4: a result in abrupt unconsciousness and extreme sedation. You do it, 653 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 4: you wake up, you're sick. You don't even know you're 654 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 4: passing out. But this isn't like nodding off Long Kensington Avenue. 655 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 4: People shuffling near catatonic states, bent at right angles, some 656 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 4: frozen mid stride. 657 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 2: That's the lean. 658 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 4: I'm gonna And you get withdrawal symptoms within two hours. 659 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 4: I want to know, exponentially more punishing than heroin. Withdrawal 660 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:48,879 Speaker 4: exponentially more punishing, and you. 661 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,919 Speaker 5: Gotta be on it within one hundred and twenty minutes. 662 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 2: Here you get withdrawals. 663 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 5: Yeah, and you got to use the same kind you 664 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,240 Speaker 5: were using again, the blend that's got notes of chocolate 665 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,360 Speaker 5: and a raspberry finished hot Yeah. 666 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 667 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 4: Christine describes brain zapps, vomiting, many seizures, paralysis and even 668 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 4: violent swings, and heart rate and blood pressure, hence her 669 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:12,879 Speaker 4: quintuple infections. 670 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 2: Good. 671 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 5: She didn't mention scrammeting, though that is unique to that one. 672 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 5: Marijuana makes you scream and vomit at the same time. 673 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 5: Oh more and more teens with that. I want to 674 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:24,360 Speaker 5: talk about that maybe tomorrow. 675 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,840 Speaker 4: But if she doesn't hustle enough cash to stave off withdrawal, 676 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 4: she'll inevitably have a heart attack and collapse on. 677 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:34,240 Speaker 5: The street, and you need it every two hours. Of course, 678 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:35,840 Speaker 5: the upside is it's only two bucks. 679 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 2: Nice lifestyle, The Armstrong and Getty Show,