WEBVTT - Bruce Sherman Interview: Marlins Owner on Playoff Push, Culture Change & More 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:02.360 Sometimes why you're listening to fish On First on Foul's 0:00:02.400 --> 0:00:25.960 territory network. 0:00:22.960 --> 0:00:26.800 Fish Unfiltered, Episode one thirteen, And you guys are in 0:00:26.840 --> 0:00:29.920 for a real treat. We just concluded a very great 0:00:29.960 --> 0:00:33.479 interview with the owner and chairman of the Miami Marlins, 0:00:33.520 --> 0:00:35.519 Bruce Sherman. We'll get to that a little bit later, 0:00:35.560 --> 0:00:38.519 but for now, I'm joined by Kevin Barrall fish On 0:00:38.560 --> 0:00:41.720 First founder Eli Sussman. We're gonna discuss a little bit 0:00:41.720 --> 0:00:43.559 of Marlins, a little bit of All Star Week festivities 0:00:43.560 --> 0:00:44.919 before we get into that interview. 0:00:44.920 --> 0:00:48.000 But Kevin, you are in Philadelphia. 0:00:48.040 --> 0:00:50.600 Record this on Wednesday morning, the night after the morning 0:00:50.600 --> 0:00:53.720 after the All Star Game, Kevin, Citizens Bank Park. I 0:00:53.720 --> 0:00:56.440 have been fortunate enough to witness it during Red October. 0:00:57.120 --> 0:00:59.240 This must have been a totally different ballgame being there 0:00:59.280 --> 0:01:01.440 for All Star Week. What was that like? 0:01:02.200 --> 0:01:03.840 Oh, it was great. It was a it was a 0:01:03.840 --> 0:01:07.440 good experience. Unfortunately, the actual game itself was quite boring 0:01:07.520 --> 0:01:11.480 until Miguel Vargus hit the homer. But you know, very 0:01:11.480 --> 0:01:14.840 little offense on the National League side. But Auto did 0:01:15.040 --> 0:01:18.080 not get to hit, so that kind of saved saved 0:01:18.120 --> 0:01:19.800 the day a little bit in terms of at least 0:01:19.800 --> 0:01:24.920 our coverage to have something to stand on. And yeah, no, 0:01:24.959 --> 0:01:27.319 it was great. The home run derby was awesome. Seeing 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:29.640 Jordan Walker come back the way he did and it 0:01:29.680 --> 0:01:33.640 really legitimately stuned Phillies fans was awesome because, I mean, 0:01:33.920 --> 0:01:37.240 you don't ever see fans booing a player in an 0:01:37.240 --> 0:01:39.959 All Star game unless it's like a division rival or something. 0:01:40.520 --> 0:01:43.680 The Phillies fans booed the absolute hell out of everyone. 0:01:43.840 --> 0:01:46.200 But this format was fun. I enjoyed it. 0:01:46.200 --> 0:01:46.479 It was. 0:01:46.680 --> 0:01:48.640 It actually didn't feel as long as it may have 0:01:48.960 --> 0:01:51.080 come off as I thought. It was gonna be a 0:01:51.120 --> 0:01:53.440 little bit longer, just because there's no timer and things 0:01:53.440 --> 0:01:56.040 aren't timed up. But even with a later it started 0:01:56.080 --> 0:01:58.280 a little later because of all the intros and stuff. 0:01:58.320 --> 0:02:01.640 But no, it was. It was fun. Jordan Walker is 0:02:01.640 --> 0:02:06.240 an absolute monster. He's having an awesome year. Yeah, I mean, obviously, 0:02:06.280 --> 0:02:08.520 I think some disappointing performances in the derby. You would 0:02:08.520 --> 0:02:11.280 have expected Harper to do a little more. Caglione had 0:02:11.320 --> 0:02:14.320 some of the more impressive homers despite only getting some 0:02:14.400 --> 0:02:17.040 of the fewests. Ben Riots was not very good into derby. 0:02:17.040 --> 0:02:18.560 I don't know what it is with the Yankees hitters 0:02:18.560 --> 0:02:21.960 out after and Judge in the derby, But yeah, no, 0:02:22.040 --> 0:02:24.840 it was. It was a fun experience. Definitely looking forward 0:02:24.880 --> 0:02:26.880 to doing this at some point again. And next year 0:02:26.880 --> 0:02:29.000 it's in Wrigley. We'll see when that happens with the 0:02:29.480 --> 0:02:33.760 impending lockout, but yeah, no, fun experience. Definitely the right 0:02:33.800 --> 0:02:36.160 spot for a host as well. For this All Star game, 0:02:36.200 --> 0:02:38.000 the fans really showed up and showed up. 0:02:38.360 --> 0:02:42.120 You can't control the particulars of what happens during the 0:02:42.160 --> 0:02:44.280 All Star Game itself, and I think this one is 0:02:44.800 --> 0:02:47.240 by most measures, it's gonna be less memorable for that 0:02:47.280 --> 0:02:49.520 particular game than has been in previous years. But that's 0:02:49.800 --> 0:02:52.960 there's just some randomness to it as as that goes. 0:02:53.280 --> 0:02:55.360 And as for the derby there and there's been so 0:02:55.400 --> 0:02:58.040 many like minor tweaks to it throughout the years in 0:02:58.080 --> 0:03:02.160 ways that overall like it every single time. I think 0:03:02.400 --> 0:03:04.239 it is an event that is going to endure for 0:03:04.960 --> 0:03:08.160 forever pretty much, just because there is just a few 0:03:08.160 --> 0:03:12.960 things more satisfying evincing an absolutely crushed home run, and 0:03:13.240 --> 0:03:15.360 I think the total numbers, I mean, the only thing 0:03:15.400 --> 0:03:17.600 that's sick said is like the actual total number of 0:03:17.639 --> 0:03:19.800 home runs hit. It kind of pales as a comparison 0:03:19.880 --> 0:03:23.959 to the format from the previous few years, fewer total 0:03:24.040 --> 0:03:27.240 swings and that element to it, but it's I think 0:03:27.240 --> 0:03:29.959 overall it was still a successful event. I do always 0:03:30.000 --> 0:03:32.960 like it when it's some winner having some balance of 0:03:33.000 --> 0:03:36.560 winners that are established superstars versus those that are kind 0:03:36.600 --> 0:03:40.600 of breakout players, and Jordan Walker has had that breakout season, 0:03:40.720 --> 0:03:43.520 so I think it was kind of Even though he 0:03:43.560 --> 0:03:46.360 wasn't a favorite going into the derby itself, it's not 0:03:46.600 --> 0:03:49.120 a super shocking outcome either. I think it was a 0:03:49.200 --> 0:03:52.120 worthy champ and so for all, I do still appreciate 0:03:52.480 --> 0:03:54.000 the also our break itself, the way that they moved 0:03:54.000 --> 0:03:56.400 around the schedule a little bit. I guess he's less 0:03:56.400 --> 0:03:57.800 a couple of days. I've had a bit more time 0:03:57.880 --> 0:04:00.280 to breathe and recover during the season. Nobody thinks about 0:04:00.280 --> 0:04:02.680 the media, but this is like these few days, you know, 0:04:02.680 --> 0:04:05.120 for me, for those that aren't actually at the game itself, 0:04:05.120 --> 0:04:07.440 this is a very important recuperation time in the middle 0:04:07.440 --> 0:04:09.680 of the year for covering a sport that is every 0:04:09.760 --> 0:04:11.960 single day, not just with the major league level, but 0:04:12.160 --> 0:04:14.880 across the minor leagues as well. In these past handful 0:04:14.920 --> 0:04:17.080 of years, the minor leagues at the full season levels, 0:04:17.360 --> 0:04:19.640 they are all calibrated with the big league team in 0:04:19.720 --> 0:04:21.800 terms of taking their own All Star break. So that's 0:04:21.839 --> 0:04:23.560 kind of one little aspect. I'm grateful for it to 0:04:23.640 --> 0:04:26.960 have just a few days without the games, and as 0:04:27.000 --> 0:04:28.760 soon as they reve up again, though, you know that 0:04:28.800 --> 0:04:31.279 we're going to be covering it more thoroughly than anybody 0:04:31.320 --> 0:04:31.719 else does. 0:04:33.000 --> 0:04:35.360 Indeed we will. The Marlins, Scurry said, seven games over 0:04:35.400 --> 0:04:39.400 five hundred, despite a first half ending sweep at the 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:43.240 hands of the Cleveland Guardians. Just some uncompetitive baseball, but 0:04:43.320 --> 0:04:45.920 as Bruce Sherman said on our pod, ran into some 0:04:45.960 --> 0:04:51.120 All Stars right intoto, some tough left handed pitching, and yeah, 0:04:51.200 --> 0:04:53.240 regarding the All Star Game, the home rundry, it was 0:04:53.240 --> 0:04:55.480 pretty impressive watching pretty much every single right hand to 0:04:55.560 --> 0:04:57.760 hit or reach the second deck and left in Citizens 0:04:57.760 --> 0:04:59.960 Bank pargain. For those who don't know, it's not easy 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:03.280 to get up there, especially with batting practice pitching velocity, 0:05:03.320 --> 0:05:05.640 it's not easy to crank them. As far as Wilson 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:09.320 Contreras was doing Junior Camenero, et cetera, it was really 0:05:09.480 --> 0:05:13.040 a special show. I don't know, if, for example, Kevin, 0:05:13.440 --> 0:05:16.920 do you prefer the clock format or a swing slash 0:05:17.040 --> 0:05:17.800 out format? 0:05:18.400 --> 0:05:18.560 Oh? 0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:21.839 No, this format by far easily. I think the clock 0:05:23.000 --> 0:05:27.440 doesn't give players enough time to recover and they'd go 0:05:27.480 --> 0:05:29.039 on their own time. And for the most part, they're 0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:32.279 pretty quickly. They're pretty quick, and the fan base makes 0:05:32.279 --> 0:05:34.640 it known if they're displeased with if you're taking long 0:05:34.680 --> 0:05:37.599 time or if you're taking pitches like obviously that's not 0:05:37.600 --> 0:05:39.560 going to get in the player's head, but it's certainly 0:05:40.400 --> 0:05:44.880 it plays a factor. And yeah, no, I mean players 0:05:44.880 --> 0:05:48.120 aren't as tired and you're at less risk of an 0:05:48.200 --> 0:05:50.400 injury too, if you're swinging as quickly as you are 0:05:50.440 --> 0:05:52.120 to get as many as you can. The one thing 0:05:52.160 --> 0:05:54.719 I don't like about this format is that, and I 0:05:54.720 --> 0:05:57.360 think one of our guys, Alex Carver mentioned this, like 0:05:57.480 --> 0:05:59.640 we would be there for a little bit longer, but 0:06:00.560 --> 0:06:04.200 there's not the twenty something homer performances that we have 0:06:04.279 --> 0:06:08.600 seen in the past, right, Like you're winning with ten 0:06:08.760 --> 0:06:12.560 or twelve homers, which is still impressive, but it's not, 0:06:12.720 --> 0:06:15.400 you know, it's not the twenty something that we've seen 0:06:15.640 --> 0:06:18.560 Stanton or Judge hit before, even justin Borr was up 0:06:18.560 --> 0:06:21.320 there at some point in the derby, So that's my 0:06:21.440 --> 0:06:24.760 only I guess gripe with it. But overall, it's better 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:27.719 for the game. It's gonna keep the players healthy, it's 0:06:27.920 --> 0:06:30.479 cause for less injury, and you're gonna see more impressive 0:06:30.480 --> 0:06:33.400 homers from start to finish. I mean, Jordan Walker hits 0:06:33.440 --> 0:06:37.839 some absolute nukes, so you know it's the players aren't 0:06:37.839 --> 0:06:41.120 getting tired as tired at least because they're going at 0:06:41.120 --> 0:06:41.760 their own pace. 0:06:43.000 --> 0:06:44.640 Well, the one thing you're guaranteed to see it and 0:06:44.880 --> 0:06:46.680 anyway in the second half is that at least one 0:06:46.720 --> 0:06:48.880 of these Derby guys is gonna have a pretty long 0:06:48.920 --> 0:06:50.800 home run drought coming out of the break, and there's 0:06:50.839 --> 0:06:53.919 gonna be in hindsight, there's gonna be people saying that 0:06:53.960 --> 0:06:56.159 it's the Derby that screwed up his swing. That happens 0:06:56.160 --> 0:06:59.520 every single time, and no matter what the results are, 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:02.040 and that's just the kind of the byproduct of making 0:07:02.080 --> 0:07:03.480 the Derby in the first place. It means that you 0:07:03.560 --> 0:07:05.080 hit a ton of home runs just in the first 0:07:05.080 --> 0:07:06.560 half and that you might be due for a little 0:07:06.560 --> 0:07:09.320 bit of regression anyway. But I'm sure that somebody out 0:07:09.320 --> 0:07:11.480 of this field is going to be kind of the 0:07:11.600 --> 0:07:14.880 latest example that it's an annual tradition for people to 0:07:15.120 --> 0:07:17.240 freak out a little bit if their guy comes out 0:07:17.280 --> 0:07:20.560 slow coming out of the break. After earning his spot 0:07:20.600 --> 0:07:22.080 in the derby in the first half. 0:07:22.320 --> 0:07:26.040 Second half on deck, Bruce Sherman told us that he 0:07:26.120 --> 0:07:28.280 will give Peter Bennix the green light to do whatever 0:07:28.320 --> 0:07:30.360 he needs to do to make this team a competitor. 0:07:30.880 --> 0:07:34.560 He knows about the nles, how important that is. What 0:07:35.200 --> 0:07:37.480 would you like to see done both at the trade 0:07:37.480 --> 0:07:39.240 deadline and on the field and second half? 0:07:40.000 --> 0:07:43.320 Yeah, that was like, obviously you guys will watch the 0:07:43.360 --> 0:07:45.600 interview with Bruce, but that was one of the more 0:07:45.640 --> 0:07:46.520 interesting things. 0:07:46.920 --> 0:07:47.120 You know. 0:07:47.160 --> 0:07:50.000 That's not not only that he says publicly that he 0:07:50.040 --> 0:07:52.480 will give the green light to Bruce Peter, I'm sorry, 0:07:52.720 --> 0:07:56.200 but acknowledging like the decisions in play, you know, and 0:07:56.280 --> 0:07:59.680 he understands that there's a difference between the wild card 0:08:00.120 --> 0:08:04.400 and the division is extremely huge. It's the difference between 0:08:04.440 --> 0:08:06.560 either going on the road for a playoff game or 0:08:07.000 --> 0:08:08.960 hosting a playoff game. 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He managed 0:09:22.240 --> 0:09:25.280 the last two weeks has actually been pretty good going 0:09:25.320 --> 0:09:28.199 into the break, but I still think that shouldn't change 0:09:28.200 --> 0:09:30.320 the view that this team is in need of a 0:09:30.320 --> 0:09:34.199 third baseman. They really do need one. I think you're 0:09:34.240 --> 0:09:36.040 going to a point where you may need a back 0:09:36.160 --> 0:09:39.920 end reliever, a higher leverage guy, and I think you 0:09:39.960 --> 0:09:44.000 need a starter. Unfortunately, I know Janson Junk kind of 0:09:44.080 --> 0:09:46.560 grinded through that last start, but I don't think long 0:09:46.679 --> 0:09:49.080 term he's the answer. I don't think Tyler Phillips long 0:09:49.160 --> 0:09:51.520 term is the answer as a starting pitcher. I think 0:09:51.559 --> 0:09:53.559 you need to add a starter, and I think that's 0:09:53.720 --> 0:09:55.720 honestly above all that may be the biggest need because 0:09:55.760 --> 0:09:59.840 at third base you played off with Sonoha and Lao. 0:10:00.480 --> 0:10:03.920 Is it ideal? No, but it may be easier to 0:10:03.960 --> 0:10:07.280 garner pitching in this trade market rather than a right 0:10:07.280 --> 0:10:09.880 handed hitting third base, which would be ideal. You know, 0:10:09.960 --> 0:10:11.920 one that could hit for a little bit more power, 0:10:12.000 --> 0:10:14.320 so more thumb in the lineup would be obviously ideal. 0:10:14.880 --> 0:10:18.480 So I think those starting pitching is obviously a big need. 0:10:18.640 --> 0:10:21.280 Third base is the biggest need, but third base, starting 0:10:21.280 --> 0:10:25.000 pitching and at least one high leverage reliever definitely should 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:27.360 be what I at least I look at in terms 0:10:27.360 --> 0:10:29.800 of the needs. The names are still too tough to tell. 0:10:30.000 --> 0:10:31.840 You're gonna start seeing a lot more sellers in the 0:10:31.880 --> 0:10:34.600 market now when in the next week or two so, 0:10:35.320 --> 0:10:39.280 things will begin to, you know, become more clear as 0:10:39.320 --> 0:10:41.080 to what names. And I think this is when we 0:10:41.120 --> 0:10:44.000 really start hearing the real rumors take place. 0:10:44.920 --> 0:10:47.600 Right Yeah, you kind of arrived at the place where 0:10:47.880 --> 0:10:49.880 I was at in terms of I do think it's 0:10:49.880 --> 0:10:53.439 starting pitching first and foremost. That that's I don't think 0:10:53.440 --> 0:10:57.200 it's a successful deadline unless they acquire additional starting pitching 0:10:57.240 --> 0:10:59.760 from outside the organization. They don't have enough internally right 0:10:59.840 --> 0:11:02.640 now they have outside of the guys that are currently 0:11:02.679 --> 0:11:04.959 in their rotation, and I'm not exactly sure who's currently 0:11:04.960 --> 0:11:06.960 in their rotation. I'm not one hundred percent sure if 0:11:07.040 --> 0:11:09.199 Tyler Phillips still is the way that they used him 0:11:09.200 --> 0:11:11.520 on Sunday that I felt like they got an ending 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:15.880 from him and already getting him reactulated. It seems a 0:11:15.880 --> 0:11:18.560 bit to being a reliever. If anybody goes down, it's 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:20.400 it's Braxton Garrett in case of the injury, and I 0:11:20.400 --> 0:11:22.160 think we will see Braxton at the big league level 0:11:22.200 --> 0:11:24.719 at some point you just can't rely on him when 0:11:24.760 --> 0:11:26.800 you really haven't seen any sort of major league success 0:11:26.800 --> 0:11:29.040 from him in like three years. It's like late twenty 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:31.960 twenty three, which means that they got to add somebody 0:11:31.960 --> 0:11:34.319 from outside the organization. I think that's the one area 0:11:34.360 --> 0:11:37.360 where there's a lot of different directions to go, Like 0:11:37.400 --> 0:11:40.240 there always are starting pitcher ors moved at the very 0:11:40.360 --> 0:11:44.000 least rental ones, But this is I put in a roundtable, like, 0:11:44.280 --> 0:11:45.800 I think this is a good opportunity for the Marlins 0:11:45.840 --> 0:11:47.839 even to get somebody with some club control looking ahead 0:11:47.920 --> 0:11:52.880 and understanding that even looking to not only something to 0:11:52.960 --> 0:11:55.240 fill a gap for twenty twenty six, but looking ahead 0:11:55.280 --> 0:11:58.079 to twenty twenty seven and feeling like they could I 0:11:58.120 --> 0:12:00.960 don't think they necessarily have all the answers internally for 0:12:01.120 --> 0:12:03.440 next year either when it comes to that. So this 0:12:03.520 --> 0:12:06.880 is an opportunity to really adjust that concern both now 0:12:06.920 --> 0:12:08.800 and moving forward. At the very least. 0:12:09.200 --> 0:12:11.839 Guys coming back from injuries can also feel like an 0:12:11.880 --> 0:12:15.600 internal type of trade. So never Bender comes back, hopefully 0:12:15.640 --> 0:12:17.760 john Kin comes back soon. Those are two pieces that 0:12:17.760 --> 0:12:19.920 you're adding to the bullpen that you know it's currently 0:12:19.960 --> 0:12:22.760 weak right now, but you have them two plus Phillips, 0:12:23.000 --> 0:12:24.840 maybe you don't really need to fill up that bullpen. 0:12:24.880 --> 0:12:26.960 Maybe maybe that's a good point there, Elie. 0:12:27.320 --> 0:12:29.439 Yeah, just a reminder for who is on the IL 0:12:29.480 --> 0:12:31.640 for the Miami Marlins when they return to play on Friday, 0:12:31.760 --> 0:12:34.600 July seventeenth. You have had amazing Robbie selling both out 0:12:34.600 --> 0:12:37.960 for the year. You've got Bender Echnes, Kempner and John 0:12:38.080 --> 0:12:40.960 King and Andrew Nordi all on the IL, with obviously 0:12:41.080 --> 0:12:43.240 Ronnie Henriquez not going to pitch this year either. So 0:12:43.760 --> 0:12:46.400 I agree some pitching need is needed here, and I 0:12:46.400 --> 0:12:50.600 think a perfect addition would be a Tyler Phillips guy, 0:12:50.720 --> 0:12:52.959 but not him. Obviously you've added him to either the 0:12:53.040 --> 0:12:55.200 rotation or to the bullpen, but you need someone that 0:12:55.240 --> 0:12:58.840 can be a hybrid starter and reliever because they're need 0:12:58.880 --> 0:13:00.840 help on both sides and they just sort of want 0:13:00.840 --> 0:13:03.040 to bring in one big arm. Someone that can fulfill 0:13:03.080 --> 0:13:07.280 both those needs I think would be ideal. But with that, Kevin, 0:13:07.440 --> 0:13:09.720 just really quickly, if you want to touch on, you 0:13:09.720 --> 0:13:12.559 were at the Major League Baseball Draft on Saturday, weird 0:13:12.600 --> 0:13:14.600 timing this year, in the middle of a Marlins baseball game. 0:13:14.640 --> 0:13:19.800 The Marlins basedectly fourteenth overall pick, Jacob Lombard from my 0:13:19.960 --> 0:13:24.320 alma mater, Gulliver Prep Preparatory School. Kevin, what do you 0:13:24.360 --> 0:13:26.400 know about the young man? From what I can see, 0:13:26.720 --> 0:13:29.520 he's developed quite well physically as an eighteen year old. 0:13:29.600 --> 0:13:32.240 One could only wish, but six three, one hundred and 0:13:32.280 --> 0:13:35.200 eighty pounds eighteen year old kid out of South Florida. 0:13:35.640 --> 0:13:37.760 Your thoughts on the Marlins first overall pick and the 0:13:37.840 --> 0:13:38.560 rest of the draft? 0:13:39.360 --> 0:13:41.880 Yeah, real quick, it was a weird timing for this 0:13:42.000 --> 0:13:45.520 draft that was on a Saturday, right before Marlins game 0:13:46.080 --> 0:13:48.840 or Major League Baseball games, not even just the Marlins. 0:13:48.880 --> 0:13:52.960 So there's this thing at which I did not know 0:13:53.080 --> 0:13:55.200 this is a thing until I joined the BBWA, but 0:13:55.240 --> 0:13:57.800 there is a breakfast like brunch type thing each year 0:13:57.840 --> 0:14:01.040 the day of the All Star Game where BPA, the 0:14:01.160 --> 0:14:04.240 MLBPA guy talks. I was used to be Tony Clark, 0:14:04.320 --> 0:14:07.120 Nuts Bruce Meyer and and Rob Manfred and Rob Manford 0:14:07.240 --> 0:14:09.680 was asked about, you know why moved the draft? Why 0:14:10.000 --> 0:14:13.840 why'd you do that? It definitely affected I don't know, 0:14:14.000 --> 0:14:16.400 he said, you know, like it affected just the way 0:14:16.440 --> 0:14:18.160 people's days when it was a little bit annoying. 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:18.520 Whatever. 0:14:19.200 --> 0:14:21.680 He kind of said, like, you know, as part of 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:24.480 the TV deal, that's the best one that was available 0:14:24.520 --> 0:14:26.560 to us. And regardless of that, I don't know how 0:14:26.640 --> 0:14:28.840 much this is truth, but like he did say, they 0:14:28.840 --> 0:14:31.960 got back very good reviews with it and all that stuff. 0:14:32.000 --> 0:14:34.560 But I found that interesting. That was like there was 0:14:34.560 --> 0:14:37.760 a lot spoken about in those meetings, but Lombard very 0:14:37.760 --> 0:14:41.280 good pick. I don't think anyone could have imagined this 0:14:41.480 --> 0:14:45.280 being a scenario for the Marlins except Jim Kallis. Apparently 0:14:45.400 --> 0:14:48.880 he actually had the Marble taking Lombard like literally the 0:14:48.960 --> 0:14:51.080 day of the draft or something like that the night before. 0:14:51.760 --> 0:14:54.280 But yeah, no, this was a guy who was supposed 0:14:54.280 --> 0:14:55.720 to go in the top five. He was the top 0:14:55.880 --> 0:14:57.880 high school player in the draft. I'm pretty sure too, 0:14:58.000 --> 0:15:00.720 or like one top two. So you know, our guy 0:15:00.760 --> 0:15:03.200 Sean McCormick just wrote an article and he's the best 0:15:03.200 --> 0:15:06.080 outcome for this guy could be Troy Tulwisky. So that's 0:15:06.200 --> 0:15:09.600 very exciting to hear. Lombard's gonna stick at shortstop. That's 0:15:09.640 --> 0:15:12.760 that's very exciting to hear. And I don't know, I 0:15:12.800 --> 0:15:14.400 think this is a guy you could potentially move through 0:15:14.400 --> 0:15:17.120 the system relatively quickly, although I wouldn't rush it because 0:15:17.120 --> 0:15:18.640 we know what happened with the last two high school 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:20.240 guys they took in the top with their top two 0:15:20.240 --> 0:15:23.360 picks has not gone very well. It's very different talent, obviously, 0:15:23.440 --> 0:15:26.960 but you know, rushing them like that and putting throwing 0:15:27.000 --> 0:15:29.120 them into the fire right away, did it work, And 0:15:29.360 --> 0:15:31.760 hopefully that's not the case with Lombard. Take your time 0:15:31.760 --> 0:15:33.920 with him. You have guys ahead of him, like a cobba, 0:15:34.000 --> 0:15:37.160 like an arquette organizationally at shortstop where you could take 0:15:37.160 --> 0:15:38.800 your time with Lombard. But hey, if he's the one 0:15:38.840 --> 0:15:41.280 performing better than all those guys and he's moving up quickly, 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:43.320 then you go with him. And we're gonna have to 0:15:43.360 --> 0:15:46.200 do a top thirty update again, hopefully not adding a 0:15:46.200 --> 0:15:49.560 lot of prospects to it because of being sellers at 0:15:49.560 --> 0:15:53.320 the deadline. But Lombard's a top three prospecting the system 0:15:53.360 --> 0:15:56.200 right now, and I know we were discussing that, and 0:15:56.240 --> 0:15:58.160 then you know, overall the draft, it was a very 0:15:58.200 --> 0:16:00.280 weird draft. They actually chose a lot more high school 0:16:00.280 --> 0:16:03.000 guys and I would have anticipated, but I'm assuming that's them, 0:16:03.040 --> 0:16:07.000 assuming they already had a predne deal with Lombard. But again, 0:16:07.080 --> 0:16:09.120 they kind of admitted like they didn't expect this guy 0:16:09.160 --> 0:16:10.520 to fall to them, so I'm curious to see what 0:16:10.520 --> 0:16:13.200 happens there. They chose a couple more high school guys. 0:16:13.200 --> 0:16:15.680 I think the biggest pick outside of Lombard was Rentaro 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:21.560 Sasaki out of Stanford. He was It's an interesting case. 0:16:21.600 --> 0:16:23.960 He was an absolute phenom coming out of I believe 0:16:24.000 --> 0:16:28.760 it was Japan. So that's like a dude who hits 0:16:28.800 --> 0:16:31.120 for a lot of power. He struggled in his first 0:16:31.200 --> 0:16:33.760 year at the collegiate level in Stanford, but was very 0:16:33.800 --> 0:16:37.080 good this past season. And the big thing with him 0:16:37.120 --> 0:16:38.560 is that he was selected in the first round of 0:16:38.560 --> 0:16:41.280 the MPB Draft, so he could make a lot more 0:16:41.360 --> 0:16:46.920 money over there, or go back to Stanford, or you know, 0:16:46.960 --> 0:16:49.440 sign with the Marlins. So that's that was a wild 0:16:49.440 --> 0:16:51.000 card pick. I don't think anyone would have thought he 0:16:51.160 --> 0:16:54.960 was going to get picked, but they are under the 0:16:54.960 --> 0:16:58.440 assumption that he will sign, so we'll see that continues 0:16:58.480 --> 0:17:00.880 to be the case. And outside of that, nothing really 0:17:00.880 --> 0:17:02.640 stands out. I'm gonna have to do my own little 0:17:02.920 --> 0:17:05.480 deep dive on the draft, but I think right now, 0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:08.320 you look at this list and top thirty guys I 0:17:08.320 --> 0:17:11.080 think Lombard really the only one. Maybe the other two 0:17:11.119 --> 0:17:14.199 picks slipped towards the back end of that, but overall 0:17:14.280 --> 0:17:17.399 good draft can't complain. We'll see if they sign. I 0:17:17.400 --> 0:17:19.639 think this is a big thing of this will be signability. 0:17:19.680 --> 0:17:23.600 They are able to keep guys and able to sign them. 0:17:23.880 --> 0:17:25.399 Yeah, I definitely want to keep them from going to 0:17:25.400 --> 0:17:28.600 college in this case. With that, I think we can 0:17:28.840 --> 0:17:31.680 sort of migrate over to our big interview with the 0:17:31.720 --> 0:17:34.399 principal owner of Your Miami Marlins, Bruce Sherman. 0:17:34.600 --> 0:17:37.920 Enjoy the Jetski Rentals of South Florida. 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How's 0:18:38.480 --> 0:18:39.080 your morning going. 0:18:40.280 --> 0:18:40.960 He's going great. 0:18:40.960 --> 0:18:43.199 And I want to thank you guys for hosting me 0:18:43.440 --> 0:18:45.240 and for all your tenants with all the games. 0:18:45.240 --> 0:18:47.720 And Kevin was at the pres got up really early. 0:18:47.800 --> 0:18:50.680 He was at the All Star Game. And I listened 0:18:50.680 --> 0:18:53.159 to your stuff or read your stuff. I watch your stuff, 0:18:53.160 --> 0:18:54.960 and uh, it's good to be here. 0:18:55.600 --> 0:18:57.639 We appreciate it. You watched so much, and you mentioned 0:18:57.640 --> 0:18:59.760 Auto Lopez. What's how fun is it watching some of 0:18:59.760 --> 0:19:02.480 your players every year? Obviously watching some of your players 0:19:02.560 --> 0:19:05.160 participate in the Midsummer Class like every July. 0:19:06.119 --> 0:19:09.639