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Speaker 1: time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Wall

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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.

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Speaker 1: It is Thursday, December twenty seven, twenty eighteen, Season fourteen,

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Speaker 1: episode number one oh three. Welcome to the latest edition

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Speaker 1: of The Break, live from the s WBC Mortgage studios

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Speaker 1: try to hit a lot of topics today. How's everybody doing.

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Speaker 1: I'm awesome, Derek, good day, Glad to have you back. Yeah, sorry,

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Speaker 1: I missed yesterday Christmas travel, but you didn't bring any gumbo.

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Speaker 1: I tried, man, then TSA won't let you on. It's

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Speaker 1: liquid TSA. I know the damn TSA. Man ain't care

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Speaker 1: enough to check in it back for you. No, he

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Speaker 1: didn't know. I haven't checked a bag in ten years. Like,

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Speaker 1: I'm not adding that extra stress onto my life, not

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Speaker 1: even if it meant I would have some gumbo to day.

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Speaker 1: You can come hey, with any luck, we're all going

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Speaker 1: to New Or going into weeks. You can come visit

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Speaker 1: Mama helmet. I'm gonna start over, so he's gonna make

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Speaker 1: a whole new batch for us. It takes like two hours.

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Speaker 1: You said, like, tell tell everyone once you've got Angie

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Speaker 1: her for Christmas? Can you do that? Yeah, Tommy John,

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Speaker 1: this should not be scandalous. I know it's not. I

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Speaker 1: bought My mom is from New Orleans, she lives there,

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Speaker 1: she's lived there for forty plus years. I bought her

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Speaker 1: a gift card to Saints Shop. Nothing wrong with that,

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Speaker 1: So you gotta know what the parents, how about what

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Speaker 1: you like? Let me finish so if we're there in

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Speaker 1: two weeks, Yeah, for a playoff game. She doesn't want

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Speaker 1: anything to do with us. No, but no, they and

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Speaker 1: that's my parents are very supportive. My dad like, listens

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Speaker 1: to all these shows, Hi, Dad, I don't think too.

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Speaker 1: My mom's a little more chill. My mom's like, I'm

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Speaker 1: proud of you, but I'm not going to listen to

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Speaker 1: like five hours of Cowboys content per week with my

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Speaker 1: dad gives me suggestions on what we should read right here, really, yeah, now,

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Speaker 1: maybe we should take some of those suggestions. Got I

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Speaker 1: give us some good ones. I've got one. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: it's I don't know how good it is, but it's

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Speaker 1: um No, they tell me he likes puns, he likes

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Speaker 1: it's very appropriate. But yeah, I was about to say, okay,

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Speaker 1: hey nick Dad, okay, sounds about right where it was

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Speaker 1: an apple treat. Yeah, if it, if it came to that,

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Speaker 1: my parents would definitely root for the Saints. And but

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Speaker 1: they would be like, but you know, we want we

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Speaker 1: want what's best for you too, So my dad would say, well,

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Speaker 1: we can't lose. It's good for us, no matter what.

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Speaker 1: That's what you would say. How did your dad handle

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Speaker 1: the Stefan Diggs touchdown? Not good? Not great? But nobody

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Speaker 1: I know did. I was about to say, I don't

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Speaker 1: that's how I knew this job has totally changed me,

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Speaker 1: because like I was watching it here in Dallas and

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Speaker 1: The group FaceTime like it's okay, guys. I was like, okay,

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Speaker 1: Let's jump in. Let's talk some Cowboys football. Let's start

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Speaker 1: first getting everybody caught up. Jason Garrett talked a little

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Speaker 1: There were four guys in particular that he mentored where

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Speaker 1: David Irving's not gonna play for this team right ever again,

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Speaker 1: I mean not this year. And if it's not this year.

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Speaker 1: give up on him until we have to. That's my guess,

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Speaker 1: pure speculation, that's my guess. Yeah. Um, I mean he's inactive,

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Speaker 1: back then, I was just like, well, why keep wasting

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Speaker 1: But as far as David Irving, there's so many things

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Speaker 1: I mean, you think you know Atlanta Lenor gets that penalty.

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Speaker 1: how the Cowboys when they go yea, like everybody's got

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Speaker 1: So I kind of agree with Nick, but he's still here.

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Speaker 1: And uh, did we I think we hit everything on Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we hit all four of those. This is a remarkably

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Speaker 1: healthy team for you know, December twenty eighth, whatever, seventh seventh, seventh,

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Speaker 1: today he was full. Okay, he's full yesterday. I expected him.

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Speaker 1: would I would assume he's not gonna play. I don't

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00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,240
Speaker 1: know that for had a quad injury, been out two

423
00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:23,439
Speaker 1: weeks now. Yeah, sank my fantasy season. Thanks. Olivier Vernon

424
00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,919
Speaker 1: did not play in these teams first meeting, and I

425
00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:30,840
Speaker 1: imagine that he will play in this game. Um So

426
00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,359
Speaker 1: if they were doing a Sunday night game on NBC

427
00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:35,760
Speaker 1: when they kind of put their names and faces up there.

428
00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:40,400
Speaker 1: What does it look like? Eli Manning, Eli Manning, Ole Miss,

429
00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:44,840
Speaker 1: Sequon Barkley, Penn State. Uh, what Sterling Shepherd Oklahoma, Russell

430
00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:51,840
Speaker 1: Shepherd Louisiana State. Let's go um Evan Ingram. Evan Ingram,

431
00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:53,720
Speaker 1: who has actually been pretty good here the last couple

432
00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:55,800
Speaker 1: of weeks. He has he come back going another guy

433
00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:59,160
Speaker 1: who sank my fantasy season. Um. Three of their five

434
00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,200
Speaker 1: starting olie him and have changed. They've had bad luck

435
00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,800
Speaker 1: with that. Obviously. They got rid of Flowers, John good luck,

436
00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:08,280
Speaker 1: John Halapio. I think I think he got hurt in

437
00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:11,080
Speaker 1: that first game against the Cowboys. He was their starting center.

438
00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:15,400
Speaker 1: He's not there anymore. Uh. Jamon Brown has taken over

439
00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:19,080
Speaker 1: at Reich guard. So there's a decent amount of change here.

440
00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:23,000
Speaker 1: Josh Morrow is starting where Snacks used to start. Uh.

441
00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,159
Speaker 1: And this one's fun. You know he's on the team,

442
00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:27,880
Speaker 1: or you should because he was there for the first game.

443
00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:31,680
Speaker 1: But B. W. Webb is now starting and playing pretty

444
00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:35,600
Speaker 1: well for them, starting opposite of Jenores Jenkins, Jet Jack Rabbit.

445
00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:39,320
Speaker 1: If you will, yeah, um, if you will. So Michael

446
00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,800
Speaker 1: Gallup is probably gonna get a nice little look at him.

447
00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,800
Speaker 1: So that'll be b W web fourth round pick. Where

448
00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:46,680
Speaker 1: do you know, a shout out to the queues where

449
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,960
Speaker 1: your web no close? That's what's Jones well, b W

450
00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:56,399
Speaker 1: web boom fourth round pick. Yeah, the brush And what

451
00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,679
Speaker 1: did you used to call him? Oh? I did not

452
00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:03,760
Speaker 1: come up. Row Ash Well, me and Rowan called him

453
00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:07,280
Speaker 1: Billy Willie Webb. And then Tim McMahon, who does Tim

454
00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,399
Speaker 1: Tim McMahon doesn't even cover the cowboys anymore, but he

455
00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:13,280
Speaker 1: called He said BW stood for burned whenever yea burned

456
00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:18,879
Speaker 1: whenever Webb. He's better now. Twenty thirteen was a rough season.

457
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,720
Speaker 1: He looks like he's playing he's playing pretty good for them. Yeah,

458
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,320
Speaker 1: the cast of the cast of characters has changed a

459
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,600
Speaker 1: little bit. I mean se Quon's still there. He caught

460
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:31,840
Speaker 1: He caught fourteen passes in that first game. Um oh yeah, Eli,

461
00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,359
Speaker 1: he could be a problem for years to come. Eli's

462
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,560
Speaker 1: gonna Eli. He's Eli has picked his play up a

463
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,160
Speaker 1: little bit here down in the final month, but he's

464
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:41,960
Speaker 1: he's still Eli. You know. It's interesting to me, like

465
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,760
Speaker 1: they seem like they're playing better here the last absolutely,

466
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:48,840
Speaker 1: And here's the interesting part. Arguably their best offensive player

467
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:52,480
Speaker 1: and their best defensive player are out. You know, Odell's out,

468
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,280
Speaker 1: and then their safety has been out. Now he's on IR,

469
00:22:55,320 --> 00:23:00,200
Speaker 1: but he's been out Landing. Yeah, Landings still there though

470
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,879
Speaker 1: he missed. I thought he's been missing the last few weeks,

471
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:04,879
Speaker 1: and I thought he was I actually thought he was

472
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,680
Speaker 1: on IR. He's not on IR. Hang on, now you're

473
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 1: throwing me off and pull up the injury report. I don't.

474
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 1: I didn't see him on it. No, he's not even

475
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:16,880
Speaker 1: on the injury report. But is that you're sure he's

476
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 1: not an IR. No, he's definitely not on I. Okay,

477
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:21,639
Speaker 1: he's in the starting I'm thinking about somebody else. I

478
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,359
Speaker 1: thought Landon Collins was out. Landon Collins is not out.

479
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 1: But Generas has battled some injuries this year. He's helped

480
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:32,040
Speaker 1: Trusty and then, uh, that'd be different. It'd be very different.

481
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,000
Speaker 1: But Olivier Vernon has dealt with injuries and um and

482
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 1: then obviously Snacks isn't there, and that's big. For my money,

483
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,159
Speaker 1: he was one of the most underrated guys on in

484
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,199
Speaker 1: the HO was hard to run against him for a

485
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:44,960
Speaker 1: couple of years. But yeah, Snacks was right there in

486
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,880
Speaker 1: the middle. Yeah, guarantee, if his nickname was like Big

487
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,359
Speaker 1: Damon or something like that, you wouldn't like Big dam Snack.

488
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 1: I kind of like Big dam that work. And he's

489
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 1: a good name. He is. He is, You've been one

490
00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 1: like he's the guy that you've been wanting this team forever. No, No,

491
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,440
Speaker 1: I'm not saying, but I'm just saying I think that

492
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 1: I think names matter a lot. I really do. I

493
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 1: think that if the guy's name, if we call him Snacks,

494
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 1: I think people like him more. I would agree with that.

495
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of another I'm trying to think.

496
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:19,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I just I think or Lucky Whitehead's name

497
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,919
Speaker 1: was like Billy Jones, I don't think he would. Or

498
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,360
Speaker 1: if people just called him Rodney instead of Lucky, well

499
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 1: some people called him Rodney when he wasn't but um

500
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 1: or whatever happened with that. Yeah, I'm staking identity. Okay,

501
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 1: So because his stats, well we're talking about the Giants,

502
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 1: but his stats, I'm looking at his stats and they

503
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 1: don't have stats on him past twelve two. Maybe he's kpe.

504
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 1: So it makes me think that if they don't have

505
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,199
Speaker 1: stats since twelve two that maybe he's not around, but

506
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:53,360
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe maybe I'm missing something here, m now,

507
00:24:53,359 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 1: we just got some awesome dead air here. Might he

508
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 1: tore his labor him against the Bears, but he's still

509
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 1: listed in the lineup. And I mean this means he's

510
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 1: not playing. I'm giving away my seekers. But our lads

511
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 1: maintain like they keep depth charts for all these teams,

512
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,199
Speaker 1: and he's right here in the starting lineup. They updated

513
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 1: every freaking day, Like if a guy tears his achilles

514
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,400
Speaker 1: on Tuesday afternoon, he's out of the lineup by Tuesday night.

515
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 1: Damn a ghost. And then Collins will not be there.

516
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:31,159
Speaker 1: Here's tay this we'll know exactly. We'll know exactly playing

517
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,679
Speaker 1: for the Seahawks. And who's not playing? Yeah, I know this.

518
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 1: Earl Thomas is out. Earl, he's not playing for Seattle. Actually,

519
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,439
Speaker 1: we're gonna have a question about that in the next segment.

520
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,440
Speaker 1: Would you go after Earl? We're gonna have to talk

521
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 1: about that. We haven't talked about Earl in a long time.

522
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 1: Oh boy, do we have to. We're gonna have to

523
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 1: talk about her. Okay, yeah, um, difference maker in that game. No,

524
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 1: he was absolutely, no, he was. Yeah, that's that's how David. Yeah, yeah, yeah, No,

525
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 1: I am, I am he They put him on injured

526
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 1: reserve on December sixth. There we go. Why is he

527
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 1: still in the lineup on a depth chart? That's that's

528
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 1: not Christmas? The day after Christmas? That should a question

529
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 1: should be after you apologize to him. You don't have

530
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 1: to apologize. Sorry he was following his paper. No, but

531
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,639
Speaker 1: I could have done a little more research, which I didn't,

532
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 1: because this game doesn't mean anything. It's the season of forgiveness.

533
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 1: Thank you, I forgive you? Um that why you finished second?

534
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 1: Is that why you finished secondly? I finished first in

535
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 1: one league, get it right? But not both? Not both?

536
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 1: I did not Why you're in a kind of a

537
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 1: bad mood the other day? Yes, yes, nick, nick point,

538
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:41,879
Speaker 1: it's it's funny, like you know, they beat the Buccaneers.

539
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 1: They don't even look convincing doing it. They beat the

540
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 1: Buccaneers and we're laughing, not knowing who's starting at safety

541
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 1: for the Giant, our best defensive players in playing. But

542
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 1: I'm but everybody would be crapping their pants about this

543
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 1: game if it meant something, Because you're right, the Giants

544
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 1: were one and seven, Yes, so to be five and

545
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 1: ten right now, I mean they've played I mean they've

546
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 1: played above five hundred football since October basically and then

547
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 1: in the league. But their perspective does this game obviously

548
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 1: it doesn't mean anything, but to them, do these that's

549
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 1: fear differently the Giants. Yeah, yeah, for the Giants, like

550
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 1: are you trying to play this to win it? They

551
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:26,640
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be funny or are they still

552
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 1: wearing the this Are they still wearing the star on

553
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 1: their helmet? Because if their cowboys come out there with

554
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 1: that star, the answer is yes, they're trying to win

555
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: that game. Yeah it is. It's stripes, yeah, say, it's

556
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:38,640
Speaker 1: just the way that Yeah, they're gonna win. Guys talked

557
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 1: about at the beginning of the show, like these stats

558
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,880
Speaker 1: follow coaches, they follow quarterbacks, they follow you know, so

559
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 1: when you talk about wins and losses, that one extra

560
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 1: win matters. It looks differently. Seven and nine looks different

561
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,919
Speaker 1: than six and ten, right, So, and I don't know

562
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 1: where they are. What's what's their record right now? Five

563
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,120
Speaker 1: and ten? Five? Yeah, so get to six and ten

564
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 1: verses five and eleven, I mean five and eleven and

565
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 1: six and ten to me is different. So there's a foods.

566
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 1: I was hoping they would get to six. Yeah, no doubt,

567
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,159
Speaker 1: So I think, yeah, I think they're definitely gonna be

568
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 1: out there ready to play and and see what happens. Now,

569
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean and Nick always says this and he's

570
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 1: absolutely right about it. Yes, where this work, Where this

571
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,359
Speaker 1: there's a difference is are they working hard today? Yeah? Like,

572
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 1: are they really studying tape today? Are they really studying

573
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 1: tape yesterday? Where they on Christmas Day looking at tape

574
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 1: and doing all the things that you do to prepare

575
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,439
Speaker 1: yourself for a game. The next week, they'll show up

576
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 1: for the game and they'll play hard, But are they

577
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 1: doing all the preparation during the week. And that's where

578
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 1: you know it kind of is the difference. I think

579
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 1: it is for sure. But that's it's it's something that

580
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 1: you don't I didn't get perspective on, at least until

581
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 1: I started working here and working with these people. Is

582
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 1: I mean, hey, it's a job, and I get there's

583
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 1: there are guys across the league that are checked out

584
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 1: and have their flight book to turn on every tas

585
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 1: on every single team, But I didn't hear what you said.

586
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 1: I didn't hear. I just this is a reason. I mean,

587
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 1: this is a job, and I think the vast majority

588
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 1: of these guys taken immense amount of pride in it,

589
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 1: and they also the vast majority of them really love it.

590
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: You want to put bad tape out there you don't remember,

591
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 1: embarrass yourself, embarrass your team, hurt your prospects of future earnings,

592
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: all that type of stuff. And so for the I mean,

593
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 1: there are definitely guys on this Giant's team that couldn't

594
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 1: care less, but I've the vast majority of them want

595
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 1: to end this thing on a strong note. For sure.

596
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: There was a game a couple of years ago. I

597
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: don't remember why gaming was, but it was not a

598
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 1: good loss. The Cowboys lost. We were on the plane

599
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 1: and the players were walking around like smiling and stuff,

600
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: and I just like after a game, yeah, after they lost,

601
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 1: and I was so upset, I'm like, why are you laughing?

602
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: Right now? In my mind, you know, like, why are

603
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 1: you laughing? Why are even smiling? Go to your seat

604
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 1: and be the price or something. B side be upset.

605
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 1: But then you realize, like you said, it is a job,

606
00:29:56,440 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 1: like and fans and including myself, I get upset certain things,

607
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 1: but this is a job. Yes, whether they lose or win,

608
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 1: it's it is what it is, and they're still gonna

609
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 1: just like any other job. But people see it the biggest,

610
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 1: the big Like if fans could see people's demeanors after games,

611
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 1: especially like losses, by the time they get to the plane,

612
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 1: because sometimes you can see the play. Yeah it's after

613
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 1: a loss, it's not good. But if if fans could

614
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 1: sometimes see the demeanor of guys two or three hours

615
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: after loss, they would lose their mind. And my rebuttal

616
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 1: to that is always, you have a terrible day at work,

617
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 1: what do you do? I go to the bar and

618
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 1: blow offs team. I absolutely and so don't come at

619
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 1: me with that. Basically, I learned that my first two

620
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 1: road trips on this team in nineteen ninety nine. A

621
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 1: lot of people not gonna remember these games. They couldn't

622
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 1: have been two different plane ride backs. I mean, I

623
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 1: mean two different finishes at Washington opening day, down twenty

624
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: one in the fourth quarter, tied the game, got to overtime,

625
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: rocket ismil to touch down. Most exciting. That was my

626
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 1: first game. Pretty cool. On the way back, everyone was

627
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 1: kind of excited. Yeah, okay. And then week four at

628
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 1: Philly there their winless Cowboys are undefeated. Michael Irving goes

629
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: down with a broken spying vertebrae neck, never plays again,

630
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: stays in Philly. They lose the game, and it was

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Speaker 1: way back, and I thought, man, this is exactly what

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Speaker 1: then I realized. Right then, by the time the buses

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Speaker 1: like you said, and they and honestly, they have to

636
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Speaker 1: do that because the more you dwell in your own misery,

637
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Speaker 1: or the more you stay too high on that win,

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Speaker 1: the more you can get overconfident or you can lose

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Speaker 1: your confidence. And so you have to be as a professional.

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Speaker 1: You have to be able to say, at some point

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Speaker 1: rather quickly, okay, that is what it is. We either

642
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Speaker 1: want or we lost. I put that aside. I move

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Speaker 1: on to the next game. Romo dropping the ball in Seattle,

644
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Speaker 1: and that that playoff game was like a funeral. It

645
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Speaker 1: And there are games like there are definitely that there

647
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648
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Speaker 1: I've seen you know, We've been on the plane after

649
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651
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652
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Speaker 1: few years ago that game. All right, let's take our

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Speaker 1: Break Live from the s WBC Mortgage Studios. At the Start,

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Speaker 1: Nick tells about Tommy John. Tommy John, Um, what's the

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Speaker 1: best underwear ever? Yeah? Found something this morning. It was good. Found. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't think there was any left, but

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Speaker 1: there actually was. Don't think there's some about No, you

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Speaker 1: had that look kind of like it's probably inappropriate, which

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Speaker 1: is now it's not really it's just kind of there's

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Speaker 1: some there's some gray area there. But basically he thinks

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Speaker 1: You know, it's like a cover of he said it's

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Speaker 1: then again they have guys girls underwear, so it's really

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Speaker 1: kind of complicated. So it's a lot of coverages, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's what you don't do just one thing. You want

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Speaker 1: to mix and Matt Yeah, yeah, do different coverage. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: a little bit of zone. So yeah, Tommy John dot

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Speaker 1: com forward sized Cowboys permison off your first order. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right, good, get you some Tommy John. If you

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, all right, let's get into some questions.

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Speaker 1: Eight five two two ninety seven is our number. We

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Speaker 1: have a call first from Felton and North Carolina. Felton,

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Speaker 1: what up? Hey, what's going on? Everyone? Hey? Happy holidays too.

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Speaker 1: I just want to say I greatly appreciate all that

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Speaker 1: you guys do. Thank you. Thancial appreciation goes to Amber

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Speaker 1: this season and Bar this season, but Amber, Amber, Amber, Oh,

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Speaker 1: I think with you a whole lot this season and

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Speaker 1: finally someone that thank you. Look, I've been trying to

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Speaker 1: get through to let you know that that's that's very important.

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Speaker 1: I really hold what you say in high regard. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely to get to my point or comments today, and

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Speaker 1: I really want to hear back from you guys about this.

741
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: So I've been listening to all of the podcasts, and

742
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 1: I hear a lot going on about Jason Garage. I

743
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,720
Speaker 1: guess adamants about you know, winning this game or playing

744
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: all the players, and I'm just like scratching my head

745
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: because I remember a couple of years ago to speak

746
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 1: to your point about numbers, Derek and records. There was

747
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 1: a chance to have the best Cowboy record I think

748
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 1: a fourteen wins, and we played back four quarters. Zeke

749
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:44,839
Speaker 1: didn't play. It was that was momentum, that was their

750
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Speaker 1: rookie season, and that was the time to leave those

751
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Speaker 1: guys in and let them continue what they were doing.

752
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Speaker 1: And you had Tony Romo as a backup for the

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Speaker 1: playoffs if anything were to happen, so even more of

754
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Speaker 1: a reason for that game to have meant something. But

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Speaker 1: it didn't mean that much that year. And here we

756
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 1: are a season we backed into the playoffs with the

757
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: same record we basically had last year. Who backed into

758
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Speaker 1: the playoffs? I don't know if how you can say

759
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 1: they backed into the playoffs? How do they back into

760
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Speaker 1: the playoffs? Because the division was absolutely almost completely trash

761
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:28,760
Speaker 1: and you win the division almost completely fairly trash again, Okay, okay,

762
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Speaker 1: I don't think they backed into the plays. Finish your

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Speaker 1: point and we'll talk about it. Sorry, yeah, yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 1: and we can go back over this. It's cool. I

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Speaker 1: don't mind at that point, because you won the division,

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Speaker 1: so it's hard to win it back in when you

767
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Speaker 1: won the division. But I understand that. So the rest

768
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Speaker 1: of my point is we've clinched. We got a lot

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Speaker 1: of players that are hurt, tired, beat up. Like this

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Speaker 1: is the time I've heard Nate said, you play who's

771
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Speaker 1: who's able to, but you see people that need it.

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Speaker 1: Man to me, Zeke man, he needs a break. He

773
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Speaker 1: I not admit it, but I'm looking at him in like,

774
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Speaker 1: if anybody needs to just take the week off as him,

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Speaker 1: We're appreciate. That's good. We appreciate the said. I wonder

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Speaker 1: if he's seen our website today because we have a

777
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Speaker 1: feature on Darius Jackson. Um if the Cowboys are trying

778
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Speaker 1: to win this game and go, you know, go, you know,

779
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Speaker 1: try to get into the playoffs or whatever, and and

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Speaker 1: you know, going on, Zeke, we're not writing a feature

781
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Speaker 1: on Darius Jackson. You go back to that Philly game

782
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Speaker 1: that you're referring to, or don't forget there was a

783
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Speaker 1: bye week after that, which I that could make your

784
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Speaker 1: point or that could that could be against It depends

785
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Speaker 1: on how you think about that bye week. But I

786
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 1: guarantee you Jason Garrett was saying the exact same thing

787
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,879
Speaker 1: he's saying this week. So let's just wait and see

788
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: how it plays out. Before he's saying we're going to

789
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,359
Speaker 1: prepare to win and all that kind of stuff. Let's

790
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Speaker 1: see what happens if you're in the fourth quarter and

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00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 1: and he's running the ball and Zeke's still in the game.

792
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 1: You keep scratching your head. But let's see how it

793
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 1: plays out. Because I have a feeling you're gonna see

794
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 1: some guys start game and all that, and then yeah,

795
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Speaker 1: it might be a little different. That's the wording of

796
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Speaker 1: this gives them so much leeway, Like the guys that

797
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:09,399
Speaker 1: guys that need a break are gonna get a break.

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00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 1: Everybody needs a break right now. Za Zach Martin is

799
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:13,479
Speaker 1: not gonna play in this game, but he just played

800
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Speaker 1: in a game like he could play in this game.

801
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Speaker 1: He's not going to right, They're gonna be smart. Zeke

802
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Speaker 1: Elliott is not going to play. He's not gonna get

803
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Speaker 1: thirty touches in this game. I'll bet my house. I

804
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:25,839
Speaker 1: don't own a house, but I'll bet it like it's

805
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,479
Speaker 1: bet Derek's house. It's not gonna happen. Yeah, people stuff

806
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Speaker 1: the one thing, the one that gives me pause. I'd

807
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 1: be I'd be shocked if Tank is still playing late

808
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Speaker 1: into this game. The one that gives me pauses Dak

809
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Speaker 1: because he's had some really good moments this year, he's

810
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 1: had plenty of bad is momentum thing, How do you

811
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Speaker 1: want to work that? I would. I would be kind

812
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Speaker 1: of surprised if he plays all four quarters, but but

813
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Speaker 1: I also wouldn't be surprised if he if he does,

814
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Speaker 1: like I don't. That's the one that I really don't

815
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Speaker 1: know what they're gonna do. And I think you can

816
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Speaker 1: make an argument either way, like he needs to play,

817
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 1: he needs the reps and the chemistry. Verse said get

818
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: him the hell out of there, said it yesterday. I said,

819
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Speaker 1: I don't know which I'll agreed on this, Jack Martin zero.

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Speaker 1: These are quarters, yeah, Zeke one, Yeahack two? That is

821
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Speaker 1: that is what I would do. Yeah, and Cooper to

822
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Speaker 1: get Tank out of there. The other thing I would

823
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 1: and that And that's that's exactly why I would sit

824
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,359
Speaker 1: Dak as well, because it's the same things out. That's

825
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Speaker 1: when Dak's coming out. I don't put I don't take

826
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Speaker 1: one out without the other. And yeah, and I agree

827
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Speaker 1: with I mean, Darius Jackson wouldn't be on this roster

828
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Speaker 1: right now if they were going to play Zeke all

829
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Speaker 1: four quarters. I don't think um. So yeah, I think

830
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Speaker 1: they're they're gonna be judicious about this. The other things.

831
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Speaker 1: You know, y'all know, I'm the guy that sits here

832
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Speaker 1: every summer and is like, don't play anybody in these games.

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Speaker 1: This isn't the preseason. You don't have ninety guys. Somebody

834
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Speaker 1: has to play the whole way. You've only got forty six,

835
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Speaker 1: So sorry, you know the MALIEK. Collinses and Coco Charlton's

836
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Speaker 1: and Lyle Colony. Somebody's got to play this game. It

837
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Speaker 1: just that's the way it works. But you you're injured players,

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Speaker 1: you're Pro Bowl players there that will be smart here.

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Speaker 1: I'll be surprised if they really go the distance in

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Speaker 1: this game. That really is the key. You can say

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Speaker 1: one thing, and we've heard, we've seen this before where

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Speaker 1: Jason will say, yeah, we're playing this game, We're playing

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Speaker 1: this game to win. You get to the game, it's

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Speaker 1: a little bit different. You can see the differences and

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Speaker 1: how much guys are playing and win guys are out.

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Speaker 1: So I think they'll be smart about this. I think

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Speaker 1: he wants everybody to kind of get a taste. But

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Speaker 1: at some point He's gonna be smart, I think, and

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Speaker 1: make sure that guys are at least going to get

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Speaker 1: a little bit of rest and not like you said,

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Speaker 1: you shouldn't expect that Zeke's going to carry a full

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Speaker 1: load this week, right the other things, Oh, go ahead,

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Speaker 1: and I think we're about to say the same. I'm

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Speaker 1: not gonna try to convince you that the NFC East

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Speaker 1: is the best division in football. It's absolutely not. It

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Speaker 1: is not the best division in football. The Chiefs and

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Speaker 1: the Chargers, they're the NFC South is pretty nasty, But

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Speaker 1: give me a break. I mean, they got two teams

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Speaker 1: right now that could get still. Eagles are for You

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Speaker 1: got two teams alive, you could have two of the

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Speaker 1: six teams to be from the East. The red Skins,

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Speaker 1: despite everything that happened to them, we're alive up until

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Speaker 1: a week sixteen, which no moral victories in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: But that is an accomplishment in and of itself. To

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Speaker 1: lose Alex Smith, to lose your whole defensive line, YadA, YadA, YadA.

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Speaker 1: And they're still in it up to six and the

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Speaker 1: Eagles look as scary as anybody in the league right now.

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Speaker 1: And that's with a bunch of injuries on that. So

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Speaker 1: I don't want to hear that the division is trash,

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Speaker 1: and especially you know, if the Cowboys had lost to

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Speaker 1: Tampa and it worked out and they want it by default,

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Speaker 1: all right, we can talk. But they won a game

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Speaker 1: to clinch their division. That's accomplish. That's exactly what I

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Speaker 1: was going to talk about about it. They didn't back

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Speaker 1: into it. And remember this, when you have a team

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Speaker 1: that's a division that's not very good, you're the reason

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Speaker 1: why they're not that good. You've put two losses on

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Speaker 1: the Eagles, you put one on the Redskins, you put

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Speaker 1: one on the Giants, and you know, maybe about to

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Speaker 1: put two losses on there. So I mean, there's a

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Speaker 1: reason why one team is a lot better than the

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Speaker 1: others because they're the ones playing them and knocking them

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Speaker 1: down that way. I mean. So, I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: think it's been it's been an average division, competitive for sure,

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Speaker 1: and you know the Cowboys are got the hats to

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Speaker 1: prove it. Ye all right, appreciate you never apologize for

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Speaker 1: winning your division. Absolutely, all right, We'll be back tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk a little bit more about Cowboys versus Giant.

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Speaker 1: Still then for Niki Men, Dave Helmet, amber Garcia. I'm Derek,

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Speaker 1: he will. This has been The Break live on Dallas

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