1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:08,800 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, Radio News. 2 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 2: Good morning. 3 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 1: I'm Nathan Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here are the 4 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: stories we're following today. 5 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:17,639 Speaker 3: Karen, let's get more on this global market route. We 6 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 3: are joined by Bloomberg's Kritty, Goopta and Kritty. We saw 7 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 3: a historic sell off in Asia overnight. 8 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 4: We certainly did, and the selloff is one of historic proportions. 9 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 4: The topics down twelve percent, the Nike also down another 10 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 4: twelve percent. But it's not just Japan. You're also seeing 11 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 4: the stock really spread off. Stock self spread off in 12 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 4: the chip sector across Asia. COSPI, the KAUSDAK, basically the 13 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 4: South Korean indexes that have that major Samsung havevyweight, both 14 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 4: down somewhere between eight and nine percent. You even have 15 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 4: the KOSAK in particular, which is of course at the 16 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 4: South Korean version of the Nasdaq, basically down a whopping 17 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 4: eleven percent. That's just in the equity space, Nathan, you 18 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 4: also have a similar story over in the currency space, 19 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 4: where dollar yen now at a one forty two handle, 20 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 4: really shaking things up in the effect space. 21 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're seeing this sell off spread into Europe where 22 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 3: you are, though it doesn't look quite as bad there, Critty. 23 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 4: It doesn't, but it is still read on the screen 24 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 4: in line with the moves that you are seeing globally. 25 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 4: About a two percent decline in the eurostocks fifty. The 26 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 4: Footy one hundred is your underperformer as well, down about 27 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 4: two point two percent. Ironically, France isn't selling off as much. 28 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 4: It's only down one point eight percent. But the reason 29 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 4: for that is simply that these markets aren't as deep 30 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 4: as the ones in Asia. They're not as liquid as 31 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 4: the ones in the States either. 32 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 1: All right, Creatie goopto will be checking in with you 33 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: all morning. Thank you. Treasuries do continue to rally this morning. 34 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: Bets increasing there will be an emergency FED rate cut. 35 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 1: In fact, traders now see roughly sixty percent chance of 36 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:44,559 Speaker 1: an emergency quarter point cut within one week. JP Morgan 37 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: and Citigroup are revamping their forecast to predict a half 38 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: point cut in the US in September. It all follows 39 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: Friday's weaker than expected JOMPS report and believes that the 40 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: Fed is too slow to support a slowing economy. Former 41 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: Offen economist Claudia sum to a Bloomberg Radio that data 42 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: triggers her famous recession indicator. 43 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 5: This summ rule way too much momentum in the unemployment 44 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 5: rate in recent months, I mean four point three percent. 45 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 5: So whether we are at that moment of a recession 46 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 5: or not, this is your build into substantial weakening in 47 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:19,239 Speaker 5: the labor market. 48 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: Claudia sam with some consulting, made the comments Friday on 49 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Surveillance right after the job's report, And. 50 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 3: Karen, as you mentioned, we're seeing Nasdaq futures plunge now 51 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 3: nearly four percent this morning. Several big names are in 52 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 3: the red. Let's get the latest from Bloomberg's Lisa Matteo. 53 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 6: Lisa, good morning. Yeah, we're seeing the tech sell off extending. 54 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 6: We have Nvidia down more than eight percent. We have 55 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 6: Microsoft metap plunging more than four percent, Alphabet down more 56 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 6: than four percent, Amazon falling more than two percent. We 57 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 6: have in Tesla taking a hit, down more than five percent. 58 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 6: But this comes after the Naszac entered into that technical 59 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 6: correction on Friday, and this was amid that drawback from 60 00:02:56,360 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 6: the overheated artificial intelligence rally. Now that gate page actually 61 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 6: touched a record high less than a month ago, but 62 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:07,399 Speaker 6: it's not just AI. Investors also concerned about over elevated 63 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 6: valuations on the impact of also the presidential election on 64 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 6: geopolitical tensions in New York. Lisa Mateo, Bloomberg Radio. 65 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 1: Right, Lisa, thank you. Apple shares they're down about eight 66 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:21,239 Speaker 1: percent over the weekend. Berkshire Hathaway revealed it's still nearly 67 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 1: half of its position in Apple during the second quarter, 68 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: and we get more from Bloomberg's Doug Prisner. 69 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 7: The move could be interpreted as a lack of conviction 70 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 7: in the Apple growth story. At the end of March, 71 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 7: Berkshire's position was worth roughly one hundred and forty billion dollars. Then, 72 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 7: as of the end of June, it was worth eighty 73 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 7: four billion. Since twenty sixteen, when Berkshire first has closed 74 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 7: its stake, Apple shares have sored nearly nine hundred percent. 75 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 7: Even with the sale, Apple does remain Berkshire's largest single position. 76 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,839 Speaker 7: If you're wondering about valuation, Apple's multiple is thirty three 77 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 7: times future profits. That's eleven points higher than the s 78 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 7: and P five hundred our Cime, Derek Prisoner, Bloomberg Radio. 79 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 3: Thanks Doug. Tech stocks aren't the only assets selling off 80 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 3: this morning. We're also watching cryptocurrencies. Bitcoin is down nearly 81 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 3: eleven percent, adding to a thirteen point one percent drop 82 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 3: last week, the worst then since the period when the 83 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 3: FTX exchange imploded. US exchange traded funds for bitcoin suffer 84 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 3: their largest outflows in about three months last Friday. 85 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: Well, Nathan, we'll have much more on the market selloff 86 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 1: in five minutes when we speak with RBC Capital Markets 87 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: Head of US equity Strategy, Lori Calvesina. But now we 88 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 1: want to get the latest on the Middle East tensions 89 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 1: there maybe piling on to negative market sentiment. Israel is 90 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 1: racing for possible attacks from Iran and regional militias after 91 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: the high profile assassinations of Hamas and hes Beila leaders 92 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: last week. Prime Minister Benjamin Ettnyah, who says his country 93 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: is in a quote multi front war against Iran's Axis 94 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,359 Speaker 1: of Evil. But the White House is urging NETANYAHUO to 95 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:58,679 Speaker 1: redouble ceasefire negotiations with Hamas, even as the US moves 96 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: in a fighter jets Squander and keeps an aircraft carrier 97 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: in the area. Here's Deputy National Security Advisor Jonathan Finer. 98 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 8: What we're trying to do is prepare for any eventuality, 99 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 8: any possibility that's only responsible for the United States. Obviously, 100 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 8: we've been quite clear that we'll work with our ally, Israel, 101 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 8: to defend itself against any threats that it faces, and 102 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 8: we are in a moment that appears to be of 103 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 8: heightened threat. 104 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 1: White House Deputy National Security Advisor John Finer made those 105 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: comments on CBS's Face the Nation heard Sundays on Bloomberg Radio. 106 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 3: Think Karen Well, the White House focuses on geopolitical tensions. 107 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 3: Vice President Kamala Harris is reportedly focusing on the final 108 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 3: stretch of choosing a running mate in her presidential campaign. 109 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 3: We get that story from Bloomberg's Ed Baxter. 110 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,679 Speaker 9: Three people on our shortlist met with her over the weekend. 111 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 9: Arizona Senator Mark Kelly, Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro, and Minnesota 112 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 9: Governor Tim Walls. Kentucky Governor Andy Basher, Transportation Secretary Pete Buddhachic, 113 00:05:56,680 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 9: and Illinois Governor JB. Pritzker also names that are still 114 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 9: being floated now. The Democratic Party is planning a virtually 115 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 9: nominated ticket by August seventh, and Harris has said the 116 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 9: shop plans day at the campaign trail weather running mate tomorrow, 117 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 9: Ed Baxter Bloomberg Radio. 118 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 10: All right, ed, thanks. 119 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: Time now for a look at some of the other 120 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 1: stories making news in New York and around the world. 121 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: For that, we're joined by Bloomberg's John Tucker. 122 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 11: John, Good Morning, Good morning, Karen. Debbie strengthened into a hurricane. 123 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 11: Has the system neared landflow in Florida's Big Bend region, 124 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 11: where residents have fled ahead of a potential week long 125 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 11: disaster across the South. Bloomberg mediorologist Rob Carolyn is tracking 126 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 11: the storm now. 127 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 10: The very big concern with Debbie is as it moves 128 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 10: inlet over in North Florida over the next day or so, 129 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 10: the steering currents are going to collapse, and that means 130 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 10: there's going to be nothing pushing the storm along, So 131 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:54,359 Speaker 10: it's just going to conder meander over portions of southeastern Georgia, 132 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 10: maybe eventually off the coast of southeastern South Carolina. This 133 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 10: means some very heavy localized rain are going to fall 134 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 10: over North Florida, Eastern Georgia, and South Carolina. 135 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 11: Through the first part of the workweek, top wins intensified 136 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 11: to eighty miles per hour, making Debbie a Category one. 137 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 11: System Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin has revoked a plea agreement 138 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 11: reached last week with the accused mastermind of the September 139 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 11: eleventh terror attacks and two alleged accomplices. That story this 140 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 11: morning from Bloomberg's Denise Penegreni Secretary. 141 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 12: Austin has now assumed direct oversight of the case and 142 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 12: canceled the plea agreement with Khaleage Sheik Mohammed and his 143 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 12: lodged accomplices for the attacks that killed nearly three thousand 144 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 12: people in New York City, at the Pentagon and in 145 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 12: a Pennsylvania field. This effectively reinstates it as a death 146 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 12: penalty case. Austin also relieved the senior Defense Department official 147 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 12: responsible for oversight of this case. His decision brought relief 148 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 12: to some family members of victims who had expressed anger 149 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 12: over the deal, but it also left uncertain the next 150 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 12: steps of the prosecution. Denise Pelgrinny Bloomberg Radio, and. 151 00:07:56,440 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 11: After ten days in theaters, Deadpool and Wolverine ready the 152 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 11: highest grossing R rated movie ever. In a second weekend, 153 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 11: the Marvel Studios Blockboster, starring Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman, 154 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 11: continued to steamroll through movie theaters collecting ninety seven million 155 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 11: dollars according to Studio estimates. Global News twenty four hours 156 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 11: a day and whatever you wanted with Bloomberg News Now. 157 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 11: I'm John Tucker. This is Bloomberg Nathan and Karen. 158 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: John, thank you time now for the Bloomberg Sports Update 159 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: with John stash Hour. 160 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 7: John, Good morning, Good morning. 161 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 13: Care of the Yankees and Blue Jays. Rubbert game at 162 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 13: the stadium and won Soto Homemwerd seventh, thenning Yanks had 163 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 13: their first lead, Toronto tie the game. Then there was 164 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,079 Speaker 13: a rain delay, and then there was a DJ Lemy 165 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 13: who walk off hit the tenth innning. The Yanks won 166 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 13: four to three. They've won seven of their last eight. 167 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 13: Mets held the five Hits lost three to two. They 168 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 13: lost two of three to the Angels in Anaheim. The 169 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 13: Chicago White Sox swept by the Twins. The White Sox 170 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 13: have lost twenty games in a row. They have been 171 00:08:56,800 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 13: only two longer losing streaks since nineteen hundred. The sixty 172 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 13: one Phillies dropped twenty three straight. The nineteen eighty eight 173 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 13: Orioles began their season oh and twenty one. The White 174 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 13: Sox will try again tonight in Oakland Noah Isles one 175 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 13: to one hundred meters in Paris by five one thousands 176 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 13: of a second. There's a belief that it was the 177 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 13: closest race in Olympic history, not official because they didn't 178 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 13: used to carry the times out that many decimal points. 179 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 13: With Lyles can now be called the fastest man in 180 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 13: the world. He is the first American to win one 181 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 13: hundred meters in twenty years. Novak Djokovic can now be 182 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 13: called an Olympic gold medal winner. He beat Carlos Alcareza 183 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 13: and the thirty seven year old winner of twenty four 184 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 13: Grand Slams. 185 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:39,959 Speaker 14: Was asked where this ranks twenty twelve opening ceremony in London, 186 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 14: carrying the flag for my country the opening ceremony opening 187 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 14: in the Olympic Games is the best feeling that an 188 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 14: athlete could have until today. This kind of supersedes everything 189 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 14: that I imagined, that hoped that I could experience, and that 190 00:09:58,000 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 14: I could feel. 191 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 13: Scotti Schefler on Olympic go then golf for the furious 192 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 13: finish final round sixty two. Had Bobby Finke not won 193 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 13: the fifteen hundred meters in the last individual event of 194 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 13: the Games, would have been the only time in Olympic 195 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 13: history no US goals and individual men's swimming, but Fink one. 196 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 13: He broke the world record. The US men did not 197 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 13: win the medley. Really, they had won each of the 198 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 13: fifteen previous ones. They were in Johns Dashedward Bloomberg Sports 199 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 13: Karen daven. 200 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 9: Coast to Coast on Bloomberg Radio, nationwide on Sirius XM, 201 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 9: and around the world on Bloomberg dot Com and the 202 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 9: Bloomberg Business app. 203 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 3: This is Bloomberg Daybreak. Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager. The 204 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 3: global stock route that began last week is intensifying this morning, 205 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 3: growing concerns about a weakening economy and a FED that 206 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 3: may have been too late to act to stop it. 207 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 3: To get some perspective on this market reaction, we are 208 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 3: joined now by Lori Calvacina, head of US Equity Strategy 209 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 3: at RBC Capital Markets. Luri, good morning. It is very 210 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 3: tough to find some green on the screen this morning. 211 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 3: Is it a pivot point for the market or our 212 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 3: investors reacting? 213 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:04,079 Speaker 15: Hi, Nathan, Well, thanks for having me. Look. I think 214 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 15: there was a lot of confusion on Friday with the 215 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 15: jobs report. I think we also had some negative data 216 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 15: points from ism last week, and to be honest, it 217 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 15: really stands in contrast on both those reports with the 218 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:18,199 Speaker 15: tone we've been hearing from companies throughout this reporting season. 219 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 15: So I think that there is a lot of sorting 220 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 15: out to do right here. I do think that one 221 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 15: of the reasons we've seen such a big reaction in 222 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 15: markets has been sort of the sharp detour that we've seen. 223 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 15: But I do think we need a little bit more 224 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 15: information at this point as. 225 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 3: That sorting out period continues. Lorie, We're seeing markets already 226 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 3: pricing in something like sixty percent odds that the Fed's 227 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 3: going to cut rates this week. I mean, how would 228 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:46,079 Speaker 3: stocks react if the Fed essentially makes up for last 229 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 3: week's lost time. 230 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 15: So I think that we always have to ask about 231 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 15: the reason that these sorts of things happen. I remember, 232 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 15: this is market pricing, this is an official action. We 233 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 15: did sort of look at this phenomenon last year during 234 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 15: the Regional Banking CIS, and what we found was that 235 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 15: really you have to be careful what you wish for, 236 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 15: you know, in this kind of regards. And I know 237 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 15: there's been a lot of talk about, you know, sort 238 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 15: of fifty basis point cuts that have come out. We 239 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 15: did actually publish something on that this morning, looking at 240 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 15: when we've seen fifty basis point cuts in just recent decades, 241 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 15: and it's tended to be associated with periods like the GFC, 242 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 15: periods like COVID. You know, at the moment, that doesn't 243 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 15: seem to be the sort of environment that we are in. 244 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 15: So again, I think we need to wait and see 245 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 15: what we're going to get from the FED. But if 246 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:35,319 Speaker 15: you look at the history, the fifty basis point cuts, 247 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 15: you know, just in recent decades have been associated with 248 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 15: sort of major periods of distress and markets. You can 249 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 15: go back farther and look at the nineties and earlier 250 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 15: to find other examples where that was not the case. 251 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 15: But I do think that's the kind of playbook a 252 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 15: live investors have in their heads. 253 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 3: So while we wait for the FED, and while we 254 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 3: wait for further data, do you see this route going 255 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 3: further or could this be a by opportunity. 256 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 15: I think we're going to have to watch the data 257 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 15: this week that comes in. But what I will tell 258 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 15: you is that we came into the third quarter thinking 259 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 15: that we were at risk of a pullback. Now, we 260 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 15: did not have sudden concerns about a recession on our 261 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 15: BINGO card. But the reality is that if you look 262 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 15: at the CFTC data, and we looked at US equity 263 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 15: futures positioning, this is something we track every week. If 264 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 15: you look at where we've been throughout most of this year, frankly, 265 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 15: it's been on US equity future positioning broadly, and S 266 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 15: and P five hundred future positioning in particular above the 267 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 15: January twenty eighteen highs and above the February twenty twenty highs, 268 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 15: and so we had, you know, obviously a tough year 269 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 15: in twenty eighteen, but we did have you know, sort 270 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 15: of a milder draw down on the low ball and 271 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 15: wined early that year twenty twenty. Obviously we all know 272 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 15: what happened there. But from a positioning perspective, whether you're 273 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 15: looking S and P naddak futures positioning as well, has 274 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 15: looked extremely extended and we have looked vulnerable to bad 275 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:55,959 Speaker 15: news from that perspective. 276 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 3: You know, I think this is just maybe the last 277 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 3: time or two we spoke, you had cautiously raised your 278 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 3: S and P five hundred price target for the end 279 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 3: of this year. Now that we've seen this pretty significant 280 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 3: dive this morning and the potential for more. Are you 281 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 3: rethinking that? 282 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:17,719 Speaker 15: So what we had baked into our outlook was the 283 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 15: idea that we would see a five to ten percent 284 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 15: type draw down, and that's a garden variety type drawdown. 285 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 15: But if you go beyond ten percent, what the history 286 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 15: tends to tell us is that it's associated with a 287 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 15: pretty intense growth scare. So obviously those risks have risen 288 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 15: in here. We don't know that it's certain we're going 289 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 15: to get that time of twenty percent draw down, but 290 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 15: if you look at those periods, especially in recent history, 291 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 15: we've seen those kinds of draw downs fifteen percent back 292 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 15: in twenty ten, twenty percent, and twenty eleven. Obviously, if 293 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 15: you go back to the twenty fifteen twenty sixteen growth scare, 294 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 15: I think we fell about fourteen percent. So those are 295 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 15: the kinds of periods. We have not baked in that 296 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 15: kind of scenario into our modeling. 297 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 3: As of now, about thirty seconds left, Laurie, what's it 298 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 3: going to take to bring confidence back into this market? 299 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 15: So I think let's watch the sentiment positioning indicators. Remember 300 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 15: AAII has also looked stretch. When we get down to 301 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 15: the one standard deviation mark below the long term average 302 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 15: that has typically, you know, in recent years, given us 303 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 15: a buy signal. Also, watch valuations. They've been very extended 304 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 15: for the broad market. They've been very extended for the 305 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 15: top ten megacat names. Let's watch what happens when those 306 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 15: numbers get back down to average. 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